1 00:00:42,119 --> 00:00:46,119 Welcome everybody. Here we go. It is that time again, Matt Connerton 2 00:00:46,359 --> 00:00:52,159 Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five 3 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,840 point three FM and Glorious Downtown, Manchester, New Hampshire. Also on Comcast 4 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,920 Channel six if you're in Manchester and hello to Oliver. On line listeners across 5 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,159 the nation and around the globe, you can go to my website Matt Connerton 6 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,159 dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact 7 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:14,439 Infolk show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Tuesday, August twenty nine, 8 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:17,719 two thousand twenty three, so nice to have you all with me. 9 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,719 By the way, our musical guest today coming up at the top of the 10 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:26,439 hour is Norara Set. Nora Set will be skyping in from Manchester, but 11 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:32,400 not Manchester, New Hampshire, from the Manchester UK, so really looking forward 12 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:36,599 to that. We get a lot of very very interesting artists out of the 13 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,719 UK who come on the show and she she does kind of a while. 14 00:01:40,719 --> 00:01:47,239 I'll let her explain it. By far, I would say the most unique 15 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,439 style that we've had on the show. It's electronic music, but it's it's 16 00:01:52,439 --> 00:01:55,920 different, it's it's not what you what you hear on the radio or even 17 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,359 in the club normally, So really looking forward to that. So she'll be 18 00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:02,879 skyping in at five pm Eastern, will a little bit before the top of 19 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,400 the hour. Well we'll play one of her songs and then go right into 20 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,120 the interview and but yeah, we'll feature some some of her music today as 21 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,199 well. Really looking forward to speaking with her, and I am looking forward 22 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:16,960 to speaking with you. The studio line is open six zo three two five 23 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:22,960 zero six zero seven six zo three two five ozho six z seven. You 24 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,919 can also text me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. 25 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,319 I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at 26 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:36,719 Matt Connerton dot com. And of course you can interact endo Pine in the 27 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,319 Facebook live chat. But the best thing to do so that we can hear 28 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:44,280 and enjoy your dulcet tones is give us a call at six zero three two 29 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,840 five zero six zero seven six zo three two five zero six zero seven. 30 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:51,639 We'll go ahead and say hello everybody in the Facebook live chat, and then 31 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:57,639 we'll get into some stuff, some shenanigans and chicanery as it were, or 32 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,919 we'll just talk about politics. I guess it's all the same. Jenny, 33 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,280 of course is in the chat. And let's see who else do we have 34 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:07,759 in here? She says, Shalom peeps. Also Jay fed from the Great 35 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,479 state of Vermont. Oh, and I think our friend, I think this 36 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:15,719 might be easy. G on the line, Eric, is that you hello? 37 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:19,520 Hello? Do you hear me? Yes? Can you hear me? 38 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,479 I just want to give a good call, not feeling the best as I 39 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:29,240 messaged you earlier. But they couldn't have done anything wrong? Was ten bells? 40 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,240 They don't do that very often, think they, Eric. I can 41 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,400 barely understand you. I heard they didn't do anything wrong, and I have 42 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:39,360 no idea what you said after that? Do you hear me now? I 43 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,879 can hear you. Yeah, I couldn't hear you very clearly there for a 44 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:46,400 minute. They did everything right with the ten bells. They don't do that 45 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,479 very often, as you well now, they did everything right with the ten 46 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,280 dollars ten bells. Oh, ten bells you're talking about? Yeah? Yeah, 47 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,960 yeah, yes they did. They don't do that very often. I 48 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,680 think the last time they did with Eddie Garrel, like, they don't do 49 00:04:00,719 --> 00:04:02,719 it very often. No, no, only they only do the ten bell 50 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:10,120 salute if someone on the active who is currently active on the roster passes away. 51 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,599 They got another old guy. He and rustled in a long time, 52 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,560 Terry Funk. Yes, that is true, he's out of the mix thing. 53 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,959 I guess that was really good. You know, sometimes they don't drop 54 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,480 the ball, you know, do the right thing rust the day. That's 55 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,040 why I liked that. That's why I enjoyed that Friday show. As soon 56 00:04:27,079 --> 00:04:28,920 as they said I'm going to do a ten bells, you know, it 57 00:04:28,959 --> 00:04:32,160 was a good it was a good story about a bad story here, all 58 00:04:32,199 --> 00:04:34,439 right. So that's all I got to say, and I you know I'm 59 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,920 doing join the rest of the show, all right, all right, easy, 60 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,839 thanks for the call, Bye bye. I understood most of that. 61 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,399 No, no fault of his own. I don't think that was a particularly 62 00:04:45,439 --> 00:04:47,240 poor phone connection. But if you don't know what he was talking about, 63 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,120 I mean I was able to pick up enough of it. I knew what 64 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,639 he was talking about last week. Of course, as wrestling fans know, 65 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:59,360 Terry Funk and then bray Wyatt. Bray Wyatt was only uh thirty six years 66 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,439 old. They both passed away, and then they did the ten bell salute 67 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:09,079 of course on the on the program. So yeah, very very sad, 68 00:05:09,399 --> 00:05:13,199 very sad last week. Well that does open up the phone line for you. 69 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,639 Six zho three two five ozho six zero seven. Oh, and we 70 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,959 have looks like our friend Shannon is on the line. High Shannon, Hello, 71 00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:30,199 Hello, good afternoon. Who's the wrestler that? He's a wrestler. 72 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:38,399 He just like did the six hundred and fifteenth Make A Wish to do? 73 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:44,920 Did that sound familiar? Maybe too easy? I don't know offhand who that 74 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:48,600 is, but I know who it but I know who it probably is because 75 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:56,439 I believe last I knew John Cena held a record for the number of Make 76 00:05:56,519 --> 00:06:00,639 a Wish children he had visited with. So so it's probably John Cena. 77 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:02,600 I don't I don't think, because I don't think there's anyone else who would 78 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:08,879 even mathematically come close to that number. So it's probably him. The name 79 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:15,519 the name rings the bell? Yeah, who was that singing this song right 80 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,480 before? You? Seemar? Well, uh, that was both of those 81 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,240 songs. That was Remy His name is Remy R E. M Y and 82 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:28,720 he does political song parodies. So he did one of well, actually he 83 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:33,000 so I played parodies of He did a parody of he does political song parodies 84 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:39,240 of actual politically tinged songs, so he did. He did a parody of 85 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,199 Try That in a Small Town by Jason Aldean called try That in a Large 86 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,079 Town yea, yeah yeah, and he also remy yes r E M y 87 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:51,519 and he also uh uh. He also did the federal employee version of Richmond 88 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:58,000 North of Richmond by Oliver Anthony. I didn't, I was. I was 89 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:04,720 listening to her Peter your show, and uh they were talking about the booze 90 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,000 there, the drinks, and I fell asleep and then it woke up with 91 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:15,199 us on the second song. All right, well, I'm glad you woke 92 00:07:15,319 --> 00:07:18,759 up, Shannon. Yes, me too. Wow, that could be busiest 93 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:26,000 futer. But one thing in the last let's say, ten fifteen years, 94 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,439 what have we been doing? What has this country been doing more in the 95 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:40,759 last five ten years than ever before? Fracking? Mhm, fracking? No, 96 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:49,720 what space launches? Oh right, I guess does it seem like that 97 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,879 they're they're stepping up with what the space? The X men? There, 98 00:07:56,399 --> 00:08:01,120 the X men. I think that's the X man. Tesla dude, oh 99 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:03,439 elon musk oh I see x man because Twitter changed to X. Yes, 100 00:08:03,519 --> 00:08:07,759 I'm sorry, Uh, yes, I think I think he's building a space 101 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,240 station. In fact, I know you're being facetious, But how do you 102 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:16,439 know, I don't know. How do you know? I might know something, 103 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,040 Shannon, I might have some information that I can't share. For all 104 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:24,920 you know, I could have the inside track. Well I put it this 105 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:28,240 way to somebody because I thought about it, you know, And I'm going, 106 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:33,480 okay, besides the internet computers, because the world's going, you know, 107 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:41,879 just like you said them and the song. Visualize a glass Okay, 108 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,440 okay, a glass. I can see it. Yes, it's get water 109 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:50,080 in it. It's got some salt on the bottom. I like this. 110 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,159 I do a lot of visualization with my clients. Yes, okay, the 111 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:56,879 salt on the bottom, it gets salt on the bottom. Has just like 112 00:08:56,919 --> 00:09:01,960 a sewing needle, sewing needle. I wouldn't drink that. You'll get the 113 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:07,480 sewy needle stuck in your throat and some spread and some spread okay, bread 114 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,759 thread. So the needle and thread is in the glass with water and the 115 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:24,039 salt. Yeah yeah, Now take a magnet and and put it in get 116 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,720 the take something to grab the needle and pull it up. What's going to 117 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,639 happen is everything is down, it's gonna pull it all up with it, 118 00:09:33,799 --> 00:09:37,879 right, But not everything but particles and whatnot are going to come up with 119 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:43,200 that when it comes out. All right, I didn't do very well in 120 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:46,039 chemistry, Shannon, I have no idea. Yes, I'll take your chemistry 121 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,679 at all. I'll take your word for it. Particles will come up with 122 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:56,080 the when you take out the needle with the magnet. Yeah, it's if 123 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,799 you were to to get the needle and pull it up. I don't like 124 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:05,240 to handle needles, Shannon. I'm very clumsy, and I will prick myself 125 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,919 and then you know what's going to be in the water then, Shannon, 126 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,120 in that glass of water with the salt my blood, it's gonna be like 127 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:16,919 like the movie Jaws. It's gonna be horrifying that. Now this whole visualization 128 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,879 is beginning to upset me. I'm freaking out. I'm gonna have nightmares. 129 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:26,679 But no, the whole point is is that the needle kind of sort of 130 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,679 represents all the steps they're shooting up into space. Okay, Okay, there's 131 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:41,480 different atmospheres go on. I don't know how many exactly. However, if 132 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:46,440 you were to take do what I said, it's the needle is it's not 133 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:50,919 just going to come up clean and everything. Stay. I know I'm gonna 134 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:54,879 get infected. Step into space. It's like that needle threaded and atmosphere. 135 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,879 You know, you're you're pulling them through. I know where you're going with 136 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,679 the Shannon. I saw something about this. You punch holes in the atmosphere 137 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,759 when you launch these rockets into space, is what you're saying. Why I 138 00:11:07,799 --> 00:11:11,840 did see something about that, is that where you're going with that. I 139 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:16,120 sure hope some punch holes, but but you take well not literally he right, 140 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,480 the atmosphere, and then the next one, and then the next one, 141 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:24,600 and you just you know it. The next thing you know, you're 142 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,480 in an next thing. You know you're in another galaxy. Yeah, well 143 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:33,720 I am in another galaxy. Oh congratulations, But I know this, but 144 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,039 well no, I was just thinking about that today. You know, they've 145 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:43,240 been shooting stuff up I don't even know how often up into space. Every 146 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:46,720 day. It seems like, huh, every day. It seems like every 147 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:48,080 day I turn on the news, there shooting another thing up there. It's 148 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:54,320 crazy, and it's going to come back down. The opposite. Everything up 149 00:11:54,360 --> 00:12:00,919 there is getting pulled down when close up must come down. Sorry, Shannon, 150 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,080 I just had an urge to sing to you. It just seems to 151 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:11,799 to me that that's doing a lot to the climate. But nobody talks about 152 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:18,000 it. Nobody talks about it. I could be completely wrong or absolutely right. 153 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,600 No, you are right. Nobody talks about it. You are correct. 154 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:28,600 Come on, what my theory? Oh, well, you'll be nice. 155 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,320 Suppose Well, well, there is there is a lot of uh, 156 00:12:31,039 --> 00:12:35,679 there is a lot of space junk up there that that just circles the Earth 157 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,840 in orbit. It is crowded up there, and that is there is a 158 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:46,240 legitimate concern that that some have expressed about there's so much stuff up there that 159 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,320 eventually you're gonna have too much, you know, just outdated, dead satellites 160 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,799 floating around, and eventually you're gonna have too much space junk up there. 161 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,679 And uh good crashing into the Moon, Well, we don't care if it 162 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,600 crashes into the moon, but I do. But if it if it crashes 163 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:05,360 into us, that's a problem. If it falls out of orbit and crashes 164 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,279 in US, where if it gets to a point where you just can't put 165 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:09,759 anything up there. You can't. You got a satellite you want to put 166 00:13:09,799 --> 00:13:13,679 up there, but you can't because it's too crowded. Well, that's that's 167 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:20,200 that's mankind. They humankind, Shannon, Please don't be sexist. It's it's 168 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:26,039 twenty twenty three. Humankind, not mankind. You ladies, You ladies have 169 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,080 to take some responsibility for these problems too. Well. I started to say 170 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,279 that you're trying to put it you're trying to put it all on us dudes, 171 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:37,519 some of those satellites and that some of that space trunk belongs to you 172 00:13:37,639 --> 00:13:41,879 ladies. That's right, none of a book. That. The thing is, 173 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:46,559 we haven't ruined Earth enough. We have to go ruin other places. 174 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:54,360 Now. You know, man can't leave people thank you cannot leave well enough 175 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:58,279 alone. That's right. Something. If it's not leave it alone, we 176 00:13:58,519 --> 00:14:01,919 ruin everything. I've always said, you know, life would be easy if 177 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:07,519 it wasn't for all the people ruining everything. Well, it's sort of true. 178 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:11,759 It is true. Literally, you got people ruining stuff and it just 179 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:16,960 makes everything complicated. Look at that lady Jen that was on doing a Brady 180 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:24,279 smack down there with Peter, the one that made the recyclable cans there. 181 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,360 Yeah, and she said, someone guld feed them. It's always gonna be 182 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:35,159 something to ruin it. H punks. You know, that's why we a 183 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,399 nice, cute little Hello kiddy pace or something. Fine, but you know 184 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:45,879 it probably wasn't. That's why we can't have nice things. Yeah, all 185 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,279 right, Well, I just I liked my theory, and any any smart 186 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:58,200 people on the book of face there might say I could be right. Who 187 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,480 knows. No. I really did see something Shannon about uh a scientist said 188 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:07,879 something about launching launching these rockets into space and it does do something to the 189 00:15:07,879 --> 00:15:11,519 atmosphere. But I didn't actually read the article because I was like, hmm, 190 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:16,399 it's science. I'm not good at science. M hmm. I wasn't 191 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:22,000 either, So you might be onto something, Shannon. Yeah, okay, 192 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,039 a good show. All right, Shannon, thank you for the call, 193 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,559 Jenny, I said, Hi, she can hear you. Hi, Jenny, 194 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:31,600 Melanie. I'm sorry. I don't mean to make your eyes roll, 195 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,240 all right, all right, all right, bye, Shannon. All right, 196 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:37,879 that was our friend, Shannon, and that does open up a line 197 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,919 for you. Six zero three two five zero six zero seven six zero three 198 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,399 two five zero six zero seven, Melanie said of the chatroom, Hahaha. 199 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:50,320 Yes, it's almost like she's like like she's a telepathic or psychic. H 200 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,440 Melanie, she she knows, she knows you're rolling your eyes. Uh, 201 00:15:56,519 --> 00:16:00,440 let's see, Jenny says, if they roll too far, you will be 202 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,759 sad. Who else do we have in the Facebook live chat? Dj Steve 203 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,679 is in the Facebook live chat? Of course, I see Dj Steve every 204 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,159 Friday night for retro Spectrum Radio with pauly C, which is Friday nights from 205 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,279 eight to eleven pm right here on wm and H. Friday is my long 206 00:16:15,399 --> 00:16:18,759 day here and it's my favorite day of the week. I do love it. 207 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:22,759 So Also I did see pauly C in the Facebook live chat, he 208 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,799 said, Hi, big fan, EAZYG is in the chat room. Also 209 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:30,720 Mike from Queen City Cabinetry. Queen City Cabinetry one of our great sponsors here 210 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,440 at WMH ninety five point three. And I also get to see Mike on 211 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:40,679 Friday nights for retro Spectrum Radio with pauly C. Jenny said, yes. 212 00:16:40,759 --> 00:16:45,799 She also thinks it's John Cena who holds the record for make a Wish. 213 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,559 Hul Coogan used to do a lot of that too. Back in the day, 214 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,639 he used to do a lot of make a wish. But I do 215 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,080 believe John Cena holds the record. Isaac Banks is in the chatwoman says hello, 216 00:16:56,159 --> 00:17:00,159 Matt, good afternoon. And also my friend Jeff Pegari says hello to 217 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,720 you, and Jeff says, what are you talking about today? For the 218 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:10,799 afternoon from my friend Jeff Bigari. While you just have to listen to find 219 00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:15,119 out what we're talking about. Scott Robinson says, oh good, the entertainment 220 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,839 report. Nope, nope, sorry, Scott. I know you love Easyg's 221 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,640 entertainment Report, but it was not to be. He's taking a break from 222 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:29,119 that again, which is fine. Melanie says, I'm visualizing a lion. 223 00:17:29,319 --> 00:17:33,240 You're not the boss of me, Shannon and Jenny said, that's true. 224 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,119 I'm the only one who handles needles and thread around here. Yes, I 225 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:42,319 wasn't kidding. I am very I am very clumsy. Isaac Bank says hashtag 226 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:48,119 Matt Connerton. Have you never listened to the band of Dog Star. Dog 227 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,119 Star is Brett dom Ross guitarist, lead vocals, Keanu Reeves bass guitar, 228 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:59,200 vocals, and Rob Mailhouse drums. I have heard dog Star. Actually yes, 229 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:03,759 not for a very long time, but but I have heard that band 230 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:11,200 dog Star hit song called Cornerstone. I don't remember that. Melanie says, 231 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,559 I can't wait until all the satellites start crashing into each other and all our 232 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,839 technology crashed into the ground. I have to tell you something, Melanie, 233 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,640 I disagree with you on that. I think that that would actually be very 234 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:30,119 bad. I think it would be calamitous, and I have a suspicion that 235 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:37,319 it would be difficult for me to do this show under those conditions. Hans 236 00:18:37,519 --> 00:18:40,039 Smith joins us in the Facebook live chat and says, hey, Matt, 237 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:47,920 Hello, Hans. Let's see Isaac Banks says we will get gusty rain am 238 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,680 on Thursday morning in Greensboro, North Carolina. Well make sure you wear a 239 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,799 raincoat or something. Eric Street joins us in the Facebook live chat. Eric 240 00:18:56,839 --> 00:19:02,079 says, I don't like X for Twitter. There's apps for Xbox X Affinity. 241 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:04,680 Too many xes gets too confusing. That's a good point. I haven't 242 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,519 thought of that, Eric, but you're right, there are a lot of 243 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:11,039 things. I think the reason Elon Musk went with X is because I think 244 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:18,440 there's a long term plan that I've read about that he wants to make kind 245 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:25,599 of like what Zuckerberg wants to do with the reason Facebook became meta, even 246 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:30,799 though it's still really Facebook. But some things say meta meta is supposed to 247 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:38,559 ultimately be this all encompassing thing and hence the meta, and I think Elon 248 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:44,799 Musk has something similar in mind for X. The X app is ultimately supposed 249 00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:48,799 to do everything you could ever want in an app, and so he went 250 00:19:48,839 --> 00:19:53,039 ahead and changed Twitter to X. Personally, I'm still calling it Twitter. 251 00:19:56,039 --> 00:20:00,680 Hans Smith says Elon Musk has nothing on that car that runs on water. 252 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:08,279 Lol. Ooh does a Tessla run on water? If I could run on 253 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:15,920 water? That's a song never mind that was That was one of my not 254 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:22,920 great spontaneous song parodies. Let's see, let's uh. If you're just joining 255 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,519 us, Sue, we have a great musical guest coming up at the top 256 00:20:25,519 --> 00:20:29,599 of the hour, Nora set will be skyping in all the way from the 257 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,880 UK. I wanted to talk a little bit about some additional thoughts I had 258 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,160 on a subject that Jenny and I spend some time on Yesterday on the show, 259 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:47,359 Oliver Anthony and his song Richmond North of Richmond. Oh Hans says, 260 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:53,960 California just came out with a car that runs entirely on water. Really interesting, 261 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:02,599 very interesting. I'll have to look that up. We're talking about Oliver 262 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,160 Anthony and his song Richmond North of Richmond, and I played, of course, 263 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,079 I had to find a radio edit for the FM radio, of course, 264 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,759 because we can't play anything with bad words here. And oh, Isaac 265 00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:21,119 Banks got my song parody, yes, the late Eddie Money Walk on Water, 266 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,279 and so we played the song I had. I approached it the same 267 00:21:26,279 --> 00:21:30,640 way I approached Try That in a Small Town by Jason Alden. I wanted 268 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,039 to play it on the show, play the song on the show without having 269 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,960 already listened to it all the way through, so I could give my live 270 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:41,960 off the cuff, sort of unvarnished, if you will, unprocessed, my 271 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:47,480 unleashed reaction to it. And Jenny did as well, and we played the 272 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:49,359 song and then we so we talked about the song, and then we talked 273 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:56,279 about some of the backlash, some of the initial backlash from the left because 274 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:03,319 conservatives online were embracing the song, and now there's backlash from conservatives because Oliver 275 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,640 Anthony turns out isn't necessarily a conservative, more of a centrist. Perhaps it's 276 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,160 a whole it's a whole thing. It's a whole big to do and it's 277 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:17,160 fascinating to me. And by the way, if you want to hear the 278 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,319 segment that we did yesterday, but you don't want to have to go back 279 00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:21,440 and listen to the whole show. If you just miss that party, you 280 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,839 just want to hear that part. I did clip it and put it up 281 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:30,119 on YouTube of just that conversation. Just search Matt Connerton Unleashed Oliver Anthony. 282 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,240 It'll come right up. You'll be able to find it and you can hear 283 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:36,119 the conversation Jenny and I had about this. But last night I was reflecting 284 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,759 on it a little bit more and I went and so I looked up a 285 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:48,200 couple of conservative online commentators who were who are now upset with Oliver Anthony and 286 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:52,480 kind of get a vibe on what they're saying, and also a couple of 287 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:59,799 liberal commentators and how they're reacting to the statement that Oliver Anthony put out. 288 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:03,000 Oliver Anthony actually released a video online. I think it's about twenty minutes long 289 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:07,119 where he talks about all that's been happening, and he kind of gives his 290 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,839 thoughts on how he was apparently very bothered at at seeing his song featured at 291 00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:17,960 the Republican debate in Milwaukee. Didn't like that. I mean it was it 292 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:22,880 was made into a question for the candidates, you know, the vice presidential 293 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,720 debate as I like to call it, because really they're all just running for 294 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:32,920 vice president anyway. But putting that aside, so I listened to Oliver Anthony's 295 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,039 video. It looks like he's just sitting in his h in a pickup truck. 296 00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:38,160 He's kind of sitting there is he's just by himself, and he's got 297 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,359 a big steering wheel, looks like one of those older trucks, and uh, 298 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,400 you know, and he's talking. Then he's kind of just musing about 299 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:53,920 everything and he had a lot to get off his chest and an observation. 300 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,559 So the two of the things that some of the backlash that he's now getting 301 00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:04,119 from con servatives who you know, they made him their their new champion after 302 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:15,039 the the the bright lights of Jason Aldean kind of faded with his song Try 303 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,079 That in a Small Town. Now they're their new song and the new artists 304 00:24:18,079 --> 00:24:21,640 that they got behind is Oliver Anthony and they love they love that song Richmond 305 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,799 North of Richmond. But two of the things that that they're upset about, 306 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,039 and we discussed this yesterday on the show. One is, uh, somebody 307 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,279 found an interview where he had talked about diversity and talked about diversity being a 308 00:24:34,319 --> 00:24:38,440 strength and whatnot. And so some of these again you know, like the 309 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:41,960 Daily Wire Crew, they don't they don't like that stuff. But the other 310 00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:47,799 thing that they're upset with him about is people are accusing him of having faked 311 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:52,759 his accent because if you listen to the song, the style that he sings 312 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,440 with, you know, seems to have a Southern accent, but when you 313 00:24:56,519 --> 00:25:00,920 hear him talk, he doesn't have that much of an accent. So they 314 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,559 feel betrayed by him. They feel like he fooled them, like he was 315 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:10,440 playing a character and that he wasn't authentic. And that part is particularly baffling 316 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,200 to me. And I'm sitting there last night I played the video of him 317 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,279 just kind of talking about everything that's happened to him and how his life has 318 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,119 changed because of the song, and how he feels about how the song is 319 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,319 being used, and he talks about how the song has been weaponized politically and 320 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,640 that was never his intention and all that. And I'm listening to him talk 321 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:33,240 and it's actually pretty compelling. I but I'm listening to him. I'm talking, 322 00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:37,559 I'm thinking, you know, he sounds like he sounds like he's from 323 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,680 Virginia, And because he definitely has an accent, he sounds like he's from 324 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:48,599 Virginia, which is where he's from. And so I'm a little bit perplexed 325 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:55,200 about why people are accusing him of faking his accent. He does half a 326 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,440 Southern accent, but it's it's Virginia, you know, It's like the north 327 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:03,160 end of the healthy you know what I mean. But I don't I don't 328 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,599 know why these people are so upset with him over that. What were they 329 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,799 expecting the first time they heard him talk? Were they expecting that, you 330 00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:14,799 know, he was gonna have this really thick Southern drawl. He's not from 331 00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:18,960 Texas, he's not from Arkansas's from Virginia. What do you want from the 332 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:25,039 guy? You know? Were you expecting a Southern drawl with chewing tobacco dripping 333 00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:30,079 out of his mouth? You know, I can't even I can't even do 334 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,440 it. I mean, but seriously, it's such a weird thing to be 335 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:40,519 angry with him about. But anyway, so people feel fooled, but I 336 00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:44,079 think it's strange. But the other thing I was thinking about too last night 337 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,440 is I'm kind of looking at these different reactions. You know, again, 338 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:51,640 you have you have some people on the right who feel betrayed, which I 339 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,640 think is strange, but then you've also got some people on the left. 340 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,400 And I watched a couple of videos, like I watched a video by Kyle 341 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,240 Colenski, who I'm somewhat of a fan of because I enjoy his analysis. 342 00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,119 Doesn't mean I agree with him on everything. I have to be I've learned 343 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,400 over the years, I have to be very careful about that. If I 344 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,839 say I'm a fan of somebody, people take that wrong and they think that 345 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,440 that means that I agree with them on everything I do. Not. I'm 346 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,799 definitely, I mean, he's you know, he's a pretty liberal guy. 347 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:22,759 I mean, I you know, I'm I'm a capitalist, and I don't 348 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:30,000 think Kyle Kolinski's a capitalist for one thing. But but he's he's talking about 349 00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:33,480 he's going through the song and taking it line by line, and he's kind 350 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,799 of analyzing it, and he's analyzing the politics of Oliver Anthony. And but 351 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:45,720 the thing that I realized is when I listen to the video that Oliver Anthony 352 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:51,359 posted talking about everything that's been going on and all the reaction to his song, 353 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,640 I realized Oliver Anthony, from his point of view, I think is 354 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:02,079 really just kind of like most people who don't think about these things that deeply. 355 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,680 I don't think that most Americans, probably the vast majority of Americans. 356 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:15,319 I think I think most Americans care about politics at least a little bit. 357 00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:22,240 But I don't think most Americans care about politics to the degree that say, 358 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:26,880 someone like me does who does a show like this because I love politics and 359 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,200 I'm a political junkie, or some of you who listen to the show because 360 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,519 you enjoy the political talk. I don't think. I don't think most Americans 361 00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:41,480 even have time, you know, to to really to really get into these 362 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:45,839 issues on a deep level. And I think Oliver Anthony is probably just like 363 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:52,039 most Americans. And the other thing that that kind of led me to the 364 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:57,000 thought that that led me to is I think when people are analyzing the lyrics 365 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,400 of his song and finding things, say, identify with because there are some 366 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,759 you know, if you're a conservative, It's like I said yesterday, I 367 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:07,680 don't think it's how did I say it. I don't think it's a conservative 368 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,000 song. I don't think he's necessarily a conservative. But I can see why 369 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:17,279 if you're a conservative you might really like that song and some of the lyrics 370 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:25,000 in that song, because there are some conservative tropes in the lyrics. But 371 00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:33,079 ultimately, whether you're whether you're relating to the song in some way or you're 372 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:37,920 criticizing the song, you know, like for example, Jenny and I talked 373 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,920 about he seems to take a swipe at people on public assistance that I think 374 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:48,200 is not that I don't agree with, for example, and kind of mixes 375 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,039 that with fat shaming. So I didn't you know that idn't like that. 376 00:29:51,799 --> 00:30:00,640 But but here's the thing music is, even when it's a politically charged music, 377 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:06,079 Ultimately, music is art, and art is up to the individual to 378 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,200 interpret however you choose and in whatever way appeals to you or does not appeal 379 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,920 to you. But it's really up to you as an individual. So when 380 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,160 I guess what I'm saying is ultimately all of us, and you know, 381 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:26,079 myself included all of us who are so fascinated with this musician and his song, 382 00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:33,559 and we're analyzing the lyrics and what does it all mean? And it 383 00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:41,759 turns out he's been misunderstood and what does he really believe? And maybe we're 384 00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,559 all just thinking much too deeply about it, because at the end of the 385 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,960 day, it's just a song and it's just music, and it's really up 386 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,400 to all of us as individuals to take from it what we want. So, 387 00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:57,799 I guess if you're a conservative and you now feel somewhat betrayed because you 388 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:03,680 thought he was a conservat of and now you realize it it's really not. 389 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:11,839 You can still like the song because how the song or how you relate to 390 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,039 the song and how you feel the song relates to you, that's up to 391 00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:19,319 you. It's not up to him. It's up to you. And on 392 00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:26,960 the other hand, if you're on the left and you don't like the song 393 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,200 because well, you know, again, that's that's up to you, whether 394 00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:36,720 you whether the lyrics turn you off because there are some conservative tropes in it, 395 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,880 or you know, maybe you I mean, I'm sure somewhere out there 396 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:47,880 there's uh some liberal minded person who maybe they hate the lyrics, but something 397 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,640 about the guy's voice they actually kind of like, well, you know, 398 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,119 or maybe there is something clever. There is something actually very clever about that 399 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,240 song. But we're gonna get too deep into the into analyzing it that I 400 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,720 don't and it's got nothing to do with the lyrics themselves, but I don't 401 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,400 want to even get into it. But there's there's something, there's something hidden 402 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,240 in that song that I think appeals to people that's very clever. And I 403 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:16,160 mean that in a very complimentary way to Oliver Anthony. But we won't get 404 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,359 into that now. But I was kind of analyzing it. But you know, 405 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,680 ultimately, art is art, and I think you can like the song 406 00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:27,519 or not like the song. And I'm not, by the way, I'm 407 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,039 not suggesting that we shouldn't be talking about it. I love talking about music. 408 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,759 That's why I love interviewing musicians, and I love interviewing musicians about their 409 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,920 art. So I'm not saying we shouldn't be having all these discussions. I'm 410 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,799 just saying, though, if you liked the song when you first heard it, 411 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:49,720 just because the perspective from the person who wrote it may not be what 412 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,480 you thought it was, doesn't mean you now have to hate the song, 413 00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:59,039 and vice versa. You know, maybe if you hated the song when you 414 00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,519 first heard it because object to some of the lyrics, but then you know 415 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:07,480 now you're learning that Oliver Anthony might not be exactly who you thought he was 416 00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:12,880 or who you judged him to be from that song, it doesn't mean well, 417 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,799 now you have to like the song. If you didn't like the song 418 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:20,680 before, you don't have to like it now you like it or you don't. 419 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,240 Ultimately, And I actually kind of like the song, to be honest 420 00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:27,079 with you, again, I don't like but see, I don't like all 421 00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:30,000 the lyrics, but I don't have to like all the lyrics to like the 422 00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:31,759 song as a whole. Like I said, I don't like the part where 423 00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:36,759 he talks about the three hundred pound guy on welfare whatever, it's kind of 424 00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:42,960 cheap. Actually, I don't like that lyric, but that doesn't necessarily affect 425 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,279 how I feel about the song as a whole. You know, a song 426 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:49,240 can have a lyric in it I don't like. Doesn't mean I'm not going 427 00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:55,119 to like the song. But art is art, you know, and it's 428 00:33:55,119 --> 00:34:00,839 really up to us as individuals how we want to how we want to perceive 429 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:02,960 it, whether we want to accept it or reject it, and whether we 430 00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,599 enjoy it or not. So I was kind of thinking about that last night 431 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,840 too, and part of what led me to that was I'm listening to Kyle 432 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:19,360 Kolinski trying to take the lyrics and sort of analyzing Oliver Anthony's politics and trying 433 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,239 to figure out what are his real politics. And it's like, you know, 434 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,320 if I had a chance to have a conversation with Kyle Kolinski, I 435 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,360 might say, well, you know, from my perspective, here's the problem. 436 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,880 I don't get the impression that Oliver Anthony thinks about this nearly as deeply 437 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:42,280 as you do. So you're analyzing this song and you're trying to analyze his 438 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,920 politics, when in reality, Oliver Anthony, I mean, he's got other 439 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:52,360 songs that aren't necessarily as politically tinged with certain tropes as this one is. 440 00:34:53,360 --> 00:35:01,360 But he probably Oliver Anthony probably does not think about politics nearly as deeply as 441 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,719 Kyle Kolinski, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. So, 442 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,159 when Kyle Kolinski is trying to figure out all Over Anthony's politics, It's like, 443 00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:10,519 well, you're trying to figure out the politics of somebody who's probably you 444 00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:15,480 know, he obviously cares about politics, or it wouldn't be in the song, 445 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,239 but he probably doesn't care about it nearly as much as you do. 446 00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:25,239 So, oh, Sepsis is in the Facebook live chat. Hello, we 447 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,639 do love sepsis speaking of music and a lot of comments here, let's see 448 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,559 Sepsis. That's a great point. Even some of us look look at it 449 00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:46,000 as more as entertainment at this time, six versus branches. Common man is 450 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:52,320 actually too busy to have an accurate opinion viewing events across the pond, our 451 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,800 own families and neighborhoods. We all have to get along with each other and 452 00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:04,159 share physical space, regardless of our versions of imagery, gods and lords. 453 00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:08,000 We don't know what people really think or do in the privacy of our authentic 454 00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:17,239 selves. Great energy, Matt Live and let Live. There is music that 455 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,280 is known to be harmful and it's big business. Oh sorry, I missed 456 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,239 a comment here right before that. Hip hop music is an entire genre that 457 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,400 has songs that contain lyrics and content based on real events that has been proving 458 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:37,360 to be connected to harmful real life consequences and conditions and useful tool to promote 459 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:51,800 harmful behavior. M that's all. That's another whole subject. But Crystal, 460 00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:57,199 our friend from Illinois in the chat room says, oh, that's a completely 461 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,719 different subject. Well that's okay, we can move on. Actually, but 462 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,599 Crystal in the chat says, I just found out my Panamanian friend passed away 463 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:12,039 from complications of lupus. She was on public assistance because of her disease. 464 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,719 Oh okay, I'm sorry, it's not a completely different subject. I apologize, 465 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,960 Crystal. No, this relates to again that I was commenting. I 466 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,920 don't like that part in the Oliver Anthony's song where he seems to you know, 467 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:29,320 he takes that swipe but of somebody being unwelfare. Let me start this 468 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,800 comment again, Crystal. I want to make sure I read the whole thing 469 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:36,119 in its entirety to honor it, and I'm sorry for your loss. By 470 00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:39,199 the way, Crystal said, I just found out my Panamanian friend passed away 471 00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:44,599 from complications of lupus. She was on public assistance because of her disease. 472 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:52,280 It's hard when people criticize public assistance when there are people who legitimately need it 473 00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:54,440 agreed. And that's, by the way, that's why I don't like that 474 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:59,559 that one line in the song she was a young mother living with her teenage 475 00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:02,280 son. I think he was seventeen or eighteen. But now he is going 476 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,639 to be navigating life alone. I don't even know if public assistance will help 477 00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:12,039 him in any way to get his living conditions situated, or if he'll just 478 00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:15,280 be thrust out there, evicted from apartment or whatever makes me sad to think 479 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:24,280 of. Absolutely. Sepsis says, negative social ideas and constructs are major music 480 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:31,280 marketing. I'd love to have. Yeah, that would be a wonderful conversation 481 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:37,000 half here in studio. Actually you should get with Jenny, and I mean, 482 00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:40,239 obviously before Swarmy Fest we need to have you back in here anyway to 483 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:44,960 promote that, but I'd love to I'd love to have that conversation here in 484 00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:50,239 studio. That would be very, very interesting. Sepsis says, we study 485 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,840 this a lot. Yeah, yeah, please if you can get because Jenny 486 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,039 does all the scheduling. I really want to have that conversation on the air. 487 00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:00,920 That would be really, really interesting, and I'd love to hear all 488 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:07,840 of your thoughts and perspective on that. It's it is interesting too, just 489 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,559 because and again I guess this goes back to what I was saying about. 490 00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:19,079 Oh, Sepsa says, we can come and talk about this. We have 491 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,559 whole seminars we do on this. Really interesting, all right, I didn't 492 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:30,960 I didn't know that. You know, the thing about art and how it 493 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,639 connects with you and how you choose to interpret it. There are things that 494 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,599 you know, I'm thinking about because now I'm thinking about lyrics and I'm thinking 495 00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:44,440 about things that can be potentially negative. You know, I've been a fan 496 00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:47,559 of and Sepsis mentioned earlier in the chat room too, hip hop. I 497 00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:52,960 think Eric Pilcher and I have had this conversation, my favorite conservative you know, 498 00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:55,599 he's a big hip hop guy, even more so than me. But 499 00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,599 I think we've talked about this little bit. There's you know, there's a 500 00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:09,800 lot of imagery and hip hop that is obviously not necessarily something you would want 501 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,920 to celebrate. But but again, but it's art, and it's a depiction 502 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:22,880 of someone's experience. You know, if someone comes from a background where you 503 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,960 know, gang related activity, whatever it is, and then that's what is 504 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,679 in the song. You know, again, they're they're taking something about their 505 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:37,360 own life experiences they've had and then creating art with it. And it's that 506 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:45,320 thing of art is art. So but that doesn't necessarily mean see, and 507 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,119 it doesn't just have to be about hip hop either, But I'll just give 508 00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:50,840 I'll give a couple of examples I'll give. I'll give one about hip hop 509 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,840 and then a broader example about just rock music. So in hip hop, 510 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,679 there's a song called one of my all time favorite hip hop songs. It's 511 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,840 up an artist called Freeway, and the song is called what We Do. 512 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,079 But if you listen to the lyrics and it's it's kind of an unusual song 513 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,199 because it's not like a singles. There's not a hook that repeats. It 514 00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:13,440 almost sounds like he freestyled the whole thing. But I'm pretty sure he didn't. 515 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:20,800 But you know, but the song's about selling drugs, and but it's 516 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,000 not. If I listen to the song, it's not I'm not listening to 517 00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:30,119 it because I like thinking about that subject. But that's the art that he 518 00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:39,119 created with his experience when he was selling drugs. So a song can have 519 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:47,480 negative subject matter or someone's negative experiences within the lyrics, But again, it's 520 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,000 art, so what you choose to do with that or how you choose to 521 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:54,360 feel about it is up to you as an individual, And to me, 522 00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,519 it's really no different than see. It's funny because people who really don't like 523 00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:04,360 hip hop will sometimes say, well, I don't like you know, I 524 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,039 don't like this violent imagery in this song, or I don't like that you 525 00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:12,000 know they're talking about drugs in this song or whatever. But then if you 526 00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:15,119 say, okay, well, how do you feel about, say, Life 527 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:20,079 in the fast Lane by the Eagles, right, And well, the Eagles, 528 00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:22,320 that's pretty innocuous. You wouldn't even think of that as being in the 529 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:30,079 same universe as something from the gangster rap genre, right, But think about 530 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:34,079 it, think about the lyrics to you know, life in the fast Lane 531 00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:37,800 br Aaron Earner. I love the Eagles growing up. Although that's one of 532 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,079 those songs. If I never hear it again for as long as I live, 533 00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:43,960 I'm good with it because I've already heard it at one hundred thousand times. 534 00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:46,840 That and Hotel California. Great song, but I hope I never hear 535 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,599 it again for the rest of my life anyway. No, but think about 536 00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:54,559 the lyrics to Life in the fast Lane. It's all about doing drugs. 537 00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:58,320 That's that's what the fast Lane is in the song. It's all about that 538 00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:04,320 and and buying drugs and doing drugs, and that's literally what the song is 539 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,079 about. But you'll never hear someone say, you know, Life in the 540 00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:12,559 fast Lane by the Eagles's softly subversive and I object to the lyrics. You 541 00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:16,920 would never hear that, right, And certainly when I would hear the song 542 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,760 growing up, I would hear it on Rock one oh one. I never 543 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:27,719 have had an adult say to me, actually, my dad, this might 544 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,239 surprise some of you, because I think I think people get a I hope 545 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:36,039 he doesn't mind me saying this because he listens to the show. I don't 546 00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:39,559 think he'll mind me saying this. My I think people get a certain perception 547 00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:45,039 of my father based on his calls and some of his social media posts. 548 00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:47,760 But you know, he's got layers and levels and he actually likes hip hop 549 00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:59,320 and uh. But my dad also he never he wasn't into censoring anything really 550 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,320 when I was growing up, Like he didn't. He was never worried about 551 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:13,039 what I was listening to or even or or hearing in terms of you know, 552 00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,440 like if I if I was listening to uh something that was, you 553 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,920 know, in the hip hop genre, and it had bad words in it. 554 00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:21,440 You know, my dad, I mean, he wouldn't want me using 555 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,320 those words, certainly, but U but he never he never tried to censor 556 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,480 anything with me. He always assumed, you know, I could handle it, 557 00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:32,079 and I knew better to repeat things or or do things that I heard 558 00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:37,840 in a song. He was always really really cool that way. Or he 559 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:44,639 even uh or things that he would let me watch. I remember, I 560 00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:50,239 have a very specific memory of when I was a kid. There was a 561 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,599 Robin Williams special on HBO and Robin Williams, Boy, we lost him. 562 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,559 We lost him too soon. I know, he was very ill. That 563 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,440 we things we know now that we didn't know then, that we were kept 564 00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:05,840 very quiet. But such a tragic end. But I remember there was a 565 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,199 Robin Williams special and I remember watching it with my dad and Robin Williams. 566 00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:12,480 He worked blue, you know, there was a lot of profanity in his 567 00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:16,280 act and whatnot. But my dad and I watched it together and it was 568 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,000 not a problem. You know, my father didn't have any problem with me 569 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:27,280 hearing those words. Somebody else had a problem with it, but she didn't 570 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,920 say anything. The person in the room who did have a problem with it, 571 00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:35,400 she just sat there knitting angrily. Oh I remember, oh, Dad, 572 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,880 if you're listening, Yes, I have very specific memories of a certain 573 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,440 individual who would, boy, I'll tell you what. She could knock out 574 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,920 a scar for a sweater in no time, because she would when she was 575 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,360 angry. She would sit there and she would knit, and the angrier she 576 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,079 was, the faster she would knit. And it was clearly infuriating to her 577 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,559 that my father and I were sitting there in the living room watching this Robin 578 00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:01,159 Williams special on Tell of Vision, and Robin Williams is swearing there's a lot 579 00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:04,920 all these f bombs, and my dad and I are both finding it all 580 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,199 very funny, and she's just sitting there knitting, and she's all angry that 581 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,159 we're laughing at all of this profanity. I mean, there might have been 582 00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:15,119 other dynamics there that I wasn't quite clued into. I don't know, But 583 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,480 no, there was someone in the room who was not pleased. No, 584 00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:24,480 but my dad was always really cool about not censoring stuff, you know, 585 00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:29,119 he didn't mind me. I mean, don't get me wrong. I don't 586 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,679 think he would have wanted me consuming pornography or anything like that, which I 587 00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:37,159 didn't do and you know, until later. But but no, he was 588 00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:40,519 always cool that way. But Scott Robinson says in the chat room, or 589 00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:45,000 how about mister Brownstone by Guns n' Roses. Oh, of course, of 590 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:50,960 course. I mean rock music is rife with drug use and alcohol abuse and 591 00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:57,880 you know, so let's see, Oh wow, we're getting close to the 592 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,679 top of the hour. We do have a musical sweaing of music. We 593 00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:01,719 have a new musical guests coming up. But these comments are interesting. I 594 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,440 want to look at these a little more. Sepsis and the chirem says, 595 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,719 there is no other genre of music that entire kind of person is encouraged to 596 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:15,119 explicit its own pain to a real world and current consequences. I only use 597 00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:27,880 hip hop as an example. Oh, imagine being a radio programmer or director 598 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,679 that is sitting behind a desk presented with an entire genre of music that consists 599 00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:37,119 of an entire type of people that commit violent crimes on each other and promote 600 00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:44,360 it along with drugs in European fashion and the exploitation of women. Just imagine 601 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,679 if I had an entire genre of music that exploited the abuse of animals or 602 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,760 senior citizens. There is only one type of music that radio directors will allow 603 00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:58,519 this music to be promoted, even though they are aware of its real life 604 00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:05,400 consequences. But are they though? Because what I don't And again this is 605 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,679 a conversation we have to have in studio to really do this right. But 606 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:17,159 I don't think does your typical program director at a radio station, are they 607 00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:23,400 at a music station, Are they really even stopping to think about that? 608 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,880 I mean, I think program directors generally have to think about the first thing 609 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,960 that they have to think about is what does their audience of their station want 610 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,320 to hear, you know, And they have to think about ratings and all 611 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,840 of that. I don't think. I don't think anyone's necessarily thinking about, 612 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:46,199 well, should we play this song? How is it going to affect people? 613 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:52,920 I don't think that enters into the equation. Probably, but I think 614 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:58,639 that, I mean, certainly sometimes what does enter into the equation is is 615 00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:02,320 there something in the song that the audience isn't going to isn't going to like, 616 00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:07,079 or that sponsors aren't going to like that can be a concern. Sometimes 617 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:12,920 radio stations make their own radio edits if there's, for example, a certain 618 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:20,480 word in a song that that the program director is concerned that might cause a 619 00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:28,119 problem. Chris Rose joins us in the chat room from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. 620 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,679 Sepsa says, you make a very valuable question. We know that violence 621 00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:39,320 and sexuality thrive in rock and rap. Advertisers know this, great question, 622 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,639 Matt interesting. Yes, well, anyway, we will have that conversation in 623 00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:47,039 the future live in studio, please. I would. I would very much 624 00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:52,000 love that. But what we need to do now, because we are approaching 625 00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:53,639 the top of the hour, We're gonna take a quick break. 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Yes, you sound great. 660 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,880 It's always a relief whenever we have somebody from the UK when everything works out 661 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,280 with Skype, it's always a big relief because it doesn't always work out on 662 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,840 the first try. So welcome to the show. Thank you so much, 663 00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:15,960 nice to meet you. Are you Matt? Is that right? I am 664 00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:20,159 Matt, Yes, and you are Nori sett Am I saying it correctly. 665 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,039 Yeah, that's perfect. Thanks so much for inviting me. Honestly, it's 666 00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:27,480 just great to be here. Yeah. No, I appreciate you joining us, 667 00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:30,199 and I really like what you're doing. Jenny and I were watching earlier 668 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:36,639 today a couple of your videos and those are pretty wild, but they certainly 669 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,519 go with the music. And now where are you are you in? It 670 00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:44,639 says on band camp You're in Manchester in the UK. Yeah, that's right. 671 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,760 I'm in Manchester, UK right now in my little flat beaming over to 672 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,280 you. It's about ten pm here in the UK. Oh okay. And 673 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,800 yeah, that was Metal Hotel that you just played. That's probably my wildest 674 00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,760 track. Some people literally can't listen to it because it's is too much. 675 00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:07,119 Yeah, no, I like it. It's probably the most unique thing that 676 00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:09,639 we've had on the show as far as music. But no, I think 677 00:57:09,639 --> 00:57:15,079 it's I think it's cool. What is your Tell me a little bit about 678 00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:19,239 your approach. Do you do you record everything yourself? Do you have other 679 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,559 people who you work with? Oh? Yeah, thank you. Yeah. 680 00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:28,920 I do everything myself from scratch. It's it's you could say I'm a control 681 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:35,480 free but actually it's it's out of necessity because I started it in lockdown in 682 00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:38,199 the UK when we couldn't go anywhere in Manchester. We were locked down for 683 00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:43,400 a really long time. And my job is that I write music for other 684 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,719 people, so I there were no musicians working, so I had no one 685 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,360 to write for. I had nothing going on, so I started writing for 686 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:57,840 myself instead at home, and I got into producing my own tracks, and 687 00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:01,960 some of them, my early ones are pretty pretty bad, and I've just 688 00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:08,199 gotten better and better. But I'm still doing these really experimental, wild things. 689 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,960 I guess I've got no one else to reiin me in as well because 690 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,239 I'm doing it all myself, So so you're going to get some pretty out 691 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,719 there stuff. But I do write songs as well that are a bit more 692 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,039 straightforward. It's just that I love to play with noise and sound and and 693 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:29,880 and try and do something new. Is in terms of your approach. Do 694 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,800 you when you record something, have you already written it in your mind or 695 00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:39,800 are you kind of experimenting as you go? So that one that you just 696 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:45,119 heard, that's very much experimenting as I go. I guess people can probably 697 00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:50,760 tell from the track, right, right. But sometimes I kind of wake 698 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,320 sometimes I actually dream songs, and I wake up with half a song in 699 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,320 my head, and I go at the piano and I do it in a 700 00:58:55,400 --> 00:59:00,800 more conventional songwriting way, because that's that's me. I'm a composer, So 701 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,480 I love writing at the piano. I love writing tunes, but I love 702 00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:08,039 really pushing myself to do something that might be like nothing I've heard before and 703 00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:13,360 like nothing anyone else has heard either. And it's not necessarily a song in 704 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,880 that case. So that one that we just heard that was produced in quite 705 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:22,079 a weird situation because I was actually living in an airbnb, so in a 706 00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:27,920 hotel of sorts for a few weeks over the summer while I was looking for 707 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:34,599 someone to live. And it was very strange, just orientating experience because you 708 00:59:34,679 --> 00:59:37,079 know, I didn't have any of my things with me. I didn't know 709 00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:42,559 if I was going to find a flat. I was feeling almost homeless. 710 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,079 I didn't have any of my recording equipment. I just had my laptop and 711 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:52,400 my phone, and I decided to just try and make music anyway in that 712 00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:58,880 situation, and I made this little EP called Metal Hotel originally with that as 713 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:04,400 the first track. And they were all produced while I was kind of in 714 01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:09,480 transit, living out of the suitcase, and so they're all quite low fi 715 01:00:10,199 --> 01:00:14,440 literally low fied, not like the esthetic, but like the actual technology is 716 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,599 very much just my laptop and my phone microphone. And then when I finally 717 01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:23,119 got a flat to live in, I rerecorded a couple of the vocals and 718 01:00:23,159 --> 01:00:28,199 I put it all together. Yeah, so that was a story behind that 719 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,639 one. Now when you because you said some of your songs you do write 720 01:00:31,679 --> 01:00:37,039 in a more conventional way. Do you ever run into a situation where you 721 01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:40,039 write something at the piano maybe and it's you know, it's got a certain 722 01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:43,320 structure to it and so forth, but then when you go to record it 723 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,320 you end up changing it. Does it ever end up being something completely different 724 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:51,039 from what you thought it might be when you first started to write it at 725 01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:57,000 the piano, Yeah, definitely. So it's quite it's quite a process I 726 01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:01,599 go through. I find it. You know, you have to start with 727 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,360 the creative mess and just kind of see where you go. You start with 728 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,920 the emotions, you start with the seeds of an idea, and you just 729 01:01:09,039 --> 01:01:13,199 get it out. I like to write things down on paper. I use 730 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,360 music notations still or when I'm writing a song, and I get it all 731 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,880 out there, and then I tend to go away from it and I come 732 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,079 back to it and sometimes I go, oh my god, what is this 733 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:28,639 rubbish? And I have created and I change everything, and sometimes I come 734 01:01:28,679 --> 01:01:30,800 back and I think, wow, yeah, okay, there's something there. 735 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,719 And then I start working at it. And that's where the kind of critical 736 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,639 part of my brain comes in, and I start to think kind of more 737 01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:42,880 analytically, and I come up with a structure, and I start like working 738 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,880 away at the harmony in a quite a logical way, but with an electronic 739 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:53,559 track that's not really recognizable as a song. It's more like very visual process. 740 01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:57,599 So I do it straight away on the computer with Ableton, which is 741 01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:01,119 a software I use, and I use everything in a very visual sense, 742 01:02:01,199 --> 01:02:07,079 moving around these blocks of material kind of like modular ideas, you know, 743 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:14,239 like moving things around like lego bricks or something, and I liked to I 744 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,719 have synesthesia, so all my sense is kind of crossover. So I think 745 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,840 about the way that a track kind of like tastes in my mouth and looks 746 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,760 and not just how it sounds, and it all kind of comes together in 747 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,239 this thing. And that's why my music videos are so wacky, is because 748 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:35,119 quite synesthetic. If that makes sense, we should explain for people to what 749 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,599 that is exactly. And if my understanding is correctly, it's when you sort 750 01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:44,199 of like you you see sound for example, right if you which I, 751 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,400 which I sort of experience a little bit myself. I might have a very 752 01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:50,920 mild form of it. Or maybe it's something that everyone does to some degree, 753 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,679 but you know, I can with the guitar specifically, like with the 754 01:02:53,719 --> 01:03:00,000 electric guitar, certain chords to me look red and others look purple. And 755 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,880 but that's about the extent of it. But my understanding is there's there's some 756 01:03:05,079 --> 01:03:09,559 people and it sounds like this is the case in with you. There's some 757 01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:14,679 people who have who I mean, it's it's something you can actually have diagnosed 758 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,239 right where you you have this. It's almost like a neurological thing where you 759 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:22,119 just you see sound or you, as you said, you taste sound. 760 01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:25,360 Yeah, so i'd say that a bit like you. I have it kind 761 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,039 of on the mildest side, but maybe a bit more than that. I 762 01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:31,119 mean, I do associate colors with chords and stuff. I think everybody has 763 01:03:31,199 --> 01:03:35,280 it to an extent, because I think when you say, you know that 764 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,199 classic example of nails down a chalkboard, everyone feels that in their mouth. 765 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:44,440 Yes, it's a it's a very visceral reaction that we have. And apparently 766 01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:47,599 all babies have synesthesia, the crossing over of senses. All babies have, 767 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,280 oh, this crossing over of senses, which is why the world is so 768 01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:55,480 overwhelming to them. And I guess I'm just a bit of a big baby 769 01:03:55,559 --> 01:03:59,920 because my brain is still a little bit like that, you know, everything 770 01:04:00,679 --> 01:04:04,639 everything kind of measures together sometimes. But I don't have it to the extent 771 01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:08,599 that some musicians do, where they have, you know, like so called 772 01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:14,039 perfect pitch, where they have such strong associations with frequencies that they can actually 773 01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:19,039 just immediately identify what keya songs in just by listening. I'm not like that. 774 01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:23,639 I just have more of a kind of artistic mess going on all of 775 01:04:23,719 --> 01:04:26,400 the time. You know, it's like it's like you're cooking like nine different 776 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,599 things at the same time, right right. And then so so you're able 777 01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:33,159 to obviously, so you play, you play piano, you play keyboards. 778 01:04:33,239 --> 01:04:36,800 So when you go to I'm a bit of a recording nerd. So when 779 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:42,760 when you go to record, you're you're you're playing the keyboard, right, 780 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,840 and that's how you're making are you are you generating all of the sound from 781 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:50,119 the keyboard, including the percussion when you oh, yes, so there's a 782 01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:56,719 mixture. Yeah, really great question about that. I sometimes plug the keyboard 783 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,880 in as a MIDI instrument, which means all the computers getting is information is 784 01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:03,480 the notes that I'm playing, the pitches, but it doesn't get the actual 785 01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:09,280 sound. It just gets the pitch information and tempo and things like this. 786 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,559 So middy is useful in that sense. So sometimes I record like I'm playing 787 01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:15,960 the piano, but then I change it to a different instrument sound on the 788 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:21,440 computer. Sometimes I plug one of my synthesizers into my computer and record the 789 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:26,559 actual sound of the synthesizer through what's called an audio interface, which is something 790 01:05:26,599 --> 01:05:30,880 that you can plug microphones into that's how you record sound into a laptop, 791 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:39,920 but sometimes I take it so quite often I take a sample of something which 792 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,440 is just like a recording of anything. It could be someone hitting a table, 793 01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:46,039 it could be birdsong, it could be any kind of noise you can 794 01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:49,880 think of. And I love zooming in on the wave form on my screen 795 01:05:50,719 --> 01:05:54,920 and just playing around with that wave form. You can stretch it, you 796 01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:00,679 can squish it up, you can cut it up into little bits and duplicate 797 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:05,239 it, and that kind of messing around with with the sound wave itself I 798 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:09,639 really enjoy. So some of my noises come from that. Some of my 799 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:15,920 drum loops are samples that I've that I've created from doing things like that, 800 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,679 and sometimes it's from Midi Instruments. So I'll go on the computer and I 801 01:06:20,719 --> 01:06:26,239 will just use one of their synthesized drum kits that's on there, but the 802 01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:31,000 metal hotel ones. That was a very weird process because I went on the 803 01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:35,360 Midi instruments on the on the so the synthesized instruments on the on the computer, 804 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,840 and I literally used my laptop like a keyboard because I didn't have access 805 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,760 to any of my instruments called just in this hotel room. Oh okay, 806 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,880 and I used my laptop like a piano, but then I sped it up 807 01:06:47,079 --> 01:06:49,440 like a crazy amount. As you can hear on that track, it's so 808 01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:57,760 fast it sounds like noise. Yeah. Did you ever hear something in your 809 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,599 mind that you want to put into a song but then you can't figure out 810 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,639 how to how to make that sound? Has that ever happen to you? 811 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,079 Oh? Definitely? Does that happen to you? Is this is something you've 812 01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:15,840 experienced? Well, I know because I I'm a bass player and I've played 813 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:21,639 in rock bands, and it's just it's nothing nearly as as unique or interesting 814 01:07:21,719 --> 01:07:26,519 as what you're doing. So so I think bass players are I think bass 815 01:07:26,679 --> 01:07:31,840 players are the you know, the fundamental underpinning of any band. And I 816 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:36,000 agree. I'm actually dating a bass player now, and he's changing my life 817 01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:40,360 because I'm realizing that I don't put enough bass lines in any of my songs. 818 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,679 And now he's he's in my you know, he's sort of in my 819 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,239 band. Now. It's very dangerous doing that. I know we're going to 820 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,840 turn into get massy. It's going to be like abbat, it's going to 821 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:56,960 be it's gonna be like Fleetwood Mac They're all great. So he guys, 822 01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:00,880 there you go, there you go. He adds he has all these like 823 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,360 improvised basslines. It's made me think about that process. But yeah, in 824 01:08:04,519 --> 01:08:10,840 terms of the question you asked, sounds, yeah, I guess I would 825 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,920 just get my microphone out and try and record it and just put steal it. 826 01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:18,520 Just steal the sound, steal the noise. Sometimes I hear something in 827 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:25,319 my head and it's it's very annoying because my job is to write music for 828 01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:29,239 other people to actually compose like classical music or castral music, this kind of 829 01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:34,199 thing. It's very different to my electronic stuff. Sometimes was really frustrating with 830 01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:36,920 that. Sometimes is I might wake up in the morning and I have this 831 01:08:38,079 --> 01:08:42,720 like symphonic world in my head and it just sounds so complex and beautiful, 832 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,199 like my subconscious is dreamed it up, but it's too complicated for me to 833 01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:50,840 work out how to recreate it quickly enough before it disappears. And I can't 834 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,319 record it, I can't sing it, I can't do anything because it's just 835 01:08:54,479 --> 01:09:00,520 like this this fragment in my mind and that's oh, it's like just it 836 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,199 slips out of my grasp because to write for an orchestra, you know, 837 01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:08,079 it takes a really really long time, and you have to set out for 838 01:09:08,119 --> 01:09:10,600 all the different instruments, all the different lines, you have to work up, 839 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,439 all the different harmonies. Oh my goodness. So that's that's the one 840 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,880 that drives me mad. Oh I can imagine. What do you do? 841 01:09:16,039 --> 01:09:20,000 Do you score movies or what do you What do you do exactly? So 842 01:09:20,119 --> 01:09:23,199 I would love to I would love to do that one day. At the 843 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:29,920 moment, I actually write operas and ballets unbelievably. Wow. Sounds kind of 844 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,760 crazy when I say that, because that's what I earned my living doing. 845 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,880 But as you might imagine, there's not always a huge living in it. 846 01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:42,560 So I started the electronic music and the pop music in lockdown because all of 847 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,479 this just stopped. You know, there was no classical music happening because it's 848 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,840 all live. You need real musicians there with you to play your music. 849 01:09:50,199 --> 01:09:55,399 Yeah, and that's why I got into music production. And now there's no 850 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,239 going back. Like I love both that, like my two children. Now 851 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:05,520 yeah, now you mentioned playing live, So do you play out a lot? 852 01:10:08,039 --> 01:10:11,359 Yeah? I love gigging. It's my favorite thing. So I do 853 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,319 love producing the tracks. It's really satisfying, but I don't I can't. 854 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,239 You know what it's like when you perform. You can't replace that feeling of 855 01:10:19,319 --> 01:10:24,640 having people there to share something with and getting that energy. Sometimes it's a 856 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,640 hard cell, you know, as soon as you've gotta work really, really 857 01:10:27,039 --> 01:10:30,680 hard. But I just love it. I love performing. I love throwing 858 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,439 myself around on stage wearing crazy outfits. It is just the best. So 859 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:38,399 what, so what is the live show like? Because what you're doing is 860 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,720 so unique. So do you have do you have an actual full band and 861 01:10:43,039 --> 01:10:49,000 and how do you replicate what you're doing? So I'm just starting to put 862 01:10:49,079 --> 01:10:53,920 together a band. So I have my basis boyfriend now. But yeah, 863 01:10:54,319 --> 01:10:58,640 very easy. But before that, I was just doing everything solo because it's 864 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,680 electronic, you know. I can bring my laptop along with my audio interface 865 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:08,720 which plugs into the sound mixer, and I would I would take the vocals 866 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:14,479 out of my tracks and do some of them with just live vocals, and 867 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,439 some of them I take some the synthesize and keyboard stuff out and do it 868 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:24,119 with live keys. And I do I throw myself around on stage a lot. 869 01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:30,279 So met Hotel that one's the least that's got the fewest vocals out of 870 01:11:30,359 --> 01:11:32,640 any of my tracks that I would do live. So I usually do it 871 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:39,359 as a kind of opening piece to get everyone's attention, snap them out of 872 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:44,439 whatever dream they're in, and I usually do something really wacky. So the 873 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:50,319 best one that I've done is I got this massive pink sand pit. Okay, 874 01:11:51,039 --> 01:11:54,920 it's plastic and it looks like a clam shell. I don't know if 875 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:59,079 you can visualize that, but it's like two halds of a clamshell and it's 876 01:11:59,119 --> 01:12:03,760 what toddlers would you as a sandpit, right, okay, or a paddling 877 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,479 pool or whatever you like. Actually, I have to give credit to my 878 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,760 ex because he was the one who spotted it and he said you should climb 879 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,680 out of that one day, and I was like, you know what, 880 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,479 You're right, I'm going to do that. And I dragged it along in 881 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:23,600 a taxi to one of my gigs this year, and I put on a 882 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:30,560 bright pink, huge tool dress. So it's like this big poofy Barbie pink 883 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,600 dress. Before Barbie came out, I wasn't thinking about Barbie, and I 884 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:40,960 had these PBC pink high heeled boots, big chunky heels, and I had 885 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,840 some pink fish nets and I had this pink visor. I always have these 886 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,840 visors, so I wear like really crazy big dresses and then I have these 887 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,880 It's like it's like what skiers were to stop themselves getting sunburned, right, 888 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,800 Okay, but I put that over my whole face. So I'm wearing this 889 01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,880 get up and I climb inside the clamshell, having pressed hit the space bar 890 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,720 on my laptop for this track. Yeah, and I'm just I stay in 891 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,680 there for like a minute and a half, so everyone's just around me in 892 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:10,199 the audience, like and some of them didn't notice me getting there, you 893 01:13:10,279 --> 01:13:13,119 know. Some of them were just talking and then they like look down and 894 01:13:13,159 --> 01:13:17,039 they're like, what the Hell's going on going on? You know? And 895 01:13:18,079 --> 01:13:25,159 I when the vocals about to start, I start opening up the clamshell and 896 01:13:25,239 --> 01:13:29,199 I like sit up in it like I've just been born from it. That 897 01:13:29,359 --> 01:13:30,640 was my favorite I ever did. But the thing is, the vocals in 898 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,880 that track a kind of metal, are kind of scary, and it was 899 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:39,800 a weird juxtaposition to have this cute little Barbie outfit and then be like kind 900 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,800 of almost scream whispering into the microphone. It was pretty funny. That's pretty 901 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,359 cool. Is there a video of that? Is that on YouTube? There 902 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,239 is? There is one on my YouTube account. It's a little short video 903 01:13:49,319 --> 01:13:53,319 of the beginning of that. If anyone wants to watch, you can go 904 01:13:53,399 --> 01:13:57,439 on my my YouTube account. And or is that that's n O double R 905 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:02,000 I SE double t E. It's one of my shorts on YouTube. Yeah, 906 01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:04,000 that's one of my favorite things I've ever done. So if you want 907 01:14:04,039 --> 01:14:06,479 to see that, you can. You can see that one for yourself. 908 01:14:09,359 --> 01:14:12,239 Yeah, that's that's very cool. And the videos, Like I said, 909 01:14:12,279 --> 01:14:17,119 Jenny and I watched a couple of your videos. Is that. I do 910 01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:21,359 think that it's funny because you mentioned, you know, on stage you kind 911 01:14:21,359 --> 01:14:25,199 of throw yourself around and I don't remember which video it was, but I 912 01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:28,079 remember watching the video and you you know, you kind of throw yourself around 913 01:14:28,119 --> 01:14:32,439 in the video. What is the process like doing those? Obviously you have 914 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,239 help with that, I assume, right, Or is that all you as 915 01:14:35,319 --> 01:14:40,359 well? Yeah? So the one for this track Metal Hotel, that's the 916 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,239 latest one I did, and that was with a professional film director. But 917 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,439 yeah, it was kind of a collaboration because you know, I can't afford 918 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:53,239 to like employee film crews as an independent musician, and he was really really 919 01:14:53,319 --> 01:14:56,800 keen to work together. So we came to kind of a compromise where we 920 01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,920 could both make it work with this amazing team we like, you know, 921 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,479 I did pay, but lots of people did it as a favor because they 922 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:09,159 just really were excited to make the video. It was so kind and I 923 01:15:09,279 --> 01:15:12,600 was so amazed with what he did because he basically is like a horror film 924 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:18,199 director. And you know, we were running around this old mansion in Manchester 925 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:25,000 with this amazing teenage dancer. She's been on the TV, she's been on 926 01:15:25,119 --> 01:15:29,119 you know, Britain's got talent and like, she's incredible. She's called Libby 927 01:15:29,119 --> 01:15:32,000 Williams and she's only sixteen years old and I really wanted her to do some 928 01:15:32,119 --> 01:15:36,840 choreography in the in the video. So she's incredible. And then we had 929 01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:41,880 Andy James Taylor, who's the director, and he brought like a wind machine 930 01:15:42,119 --> 01:15:47,760 crew, like a lighting setup, cameras, roving cameras. It was amazing. 931 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:54,439 And I was wearing this bright red outfit with high heels and I'm really 932 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:58,079 short sighted, okay, so I look quite afraid in the video, and 933 01:15:58,279 --> 01:16:00,399 I was like, wow, you're acting is amazing. You know, acting 934 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,640 is amazing. Nor is that? And I was like, well, it's 935 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,920 not acting because I was genuinely scared. I was going to fall through the 936 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:12,159 floor because I was wearing these high heels in this like rotting old mansion. 937 01:16:12,319 --> 01:16:15,359 You know, I couldn't see anything and I had to like sprint up the 938 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:20,399 stay at the stairs away from this like Goblin esque dancer, and oh my 939 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:26,279 goodness, I was genuinely freaking out. So it's it's it's not acting, 940 01:16:26,319 --> 01:16:31,119 it's it's real. But you know, my other videos before that, they 941 01:16:31,159 --> 01:16:35,079 were all me. So I like my music. I did everything at home. 942 01:16:35,399 --> 01:16:39,399 It started in the Pandemic and it continues to this day. Like I 943 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:45,039 love setting up a camera, putting on a crazy outfit and just following like 944 01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:49,399 a concept, but then editing. It is so much fun because I love 945 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:54,600 doing these little like repeated clips that are quite glitchy and kind of like the 946 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,920 music. So all my videos on YouTube are just me, and I did 947 01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,720 them on like zero budget, it by myself at home. So so working 948 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,800 with this film crew was next level. You know. Yeah, yeah, 949 01:17:05,279 --> 01:17:09,399 no, that's cool. It is. It is wonderful too though, that 950 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,159 we live in a time where we have the technology to do things, you 951 01:17:13,239 --> 01:17:15,640 know, like those YouTube videos that you can do on your own too. 952 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,399 That's and it's it's good that you you actually it sounds like you actually enjoy 953 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:23,640 the editing process, because I know a lot of people who say, you 954 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,520 know, that's their least favorite you know, people who do it d I 955 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,399 Y, they say that's their least favorite part is having to edit it, 956 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,399 you know, because at that point in the process they just want to get 957 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,479 it done and you got to sit there and do it. But it's good 958 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,439 that you enjoy it, I know, right, I mean, it's it's 959 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:42,560 it's like composing for me. It's it's like the it's like actually a creative 960 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,479 process. I don't know how you feel when you're like doing music, how 961 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,239 much you just want to be in the moment, or how much you want 962 01:17:48,279 --> 01:17:51,239 to have like editorial control. I don't know what that's like for you. 963 01:17:51,319 --> 01:17:56,520 As a bass player, you always feel like your pop somebody else's create a 964 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,760 vision or do you get your own? It would depend I've played in a 965 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,239 lot bands and they were all they were all different, but so it would 966 01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:05,680 depend. But the thing is, I mean, when you're the bass player, 967 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,960 it's easy to just kind of fade into the back and be a part 968 01:18:10,039 --> 01:18:14,680 of vision. So I never minded it that much, but now I loved 969 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,279 to. I love to be, you know, having this It's fun to 970 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,000 perform and to be in the moment. I love that, But I also 971 01:18:21,119 --> 01:18:28,359 love being able to edit and create this narrative. And what was quite difficult 972 01:18:28,399 --> 01:18:30,880 for me about being in a video directed and produced by somebody else and his 973 01:18:31,279 --> 01:18:35,000 creative vision. It was although we collaborated, you know, it was a 974 01:18:35,039 --> 01:18:38,760 new experience for me to not be the editor, and I had to really 975 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,319 trust that whatever we created it was going to be different to what I would 976 01:18:42,319 --> 01:18:47,039 have made by myself, but would be exciting and different and also better than 977 01:18:47,079 --> 01:18:51,880 what I could do by myself because there's this team involved. And that's the 978 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,079 same with music. So now I'm going to be building a band. I've 979 01:18:56,119 --> 01:18:59,159 got my bassis, I'm going to have a drummer, and I've got no 980 01:18:59,239 --> 01:19:01,239 idea where it's to go. You know, I've never worked with a drummer 981 01:19:01,279 --> 01:19:05,800 before. I've always synthesized all my drums, and so it could be completely 982 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,600 different and I'm excited. You know, I've got to let go of some 983 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,479 of this control I've had and start collaborating more because that's why I do my 984 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,199 job. You know, when I'm composing for other people, I'm always collaborating 985 01:19:17,359 --> 01:19:21,880 with them and with what their skills are. So it's just like bringing that 986 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:28,279 into my electronic music now. Yeah. By the way, Isaac Banks in 987 01:19:28,319 --> 01:19:33,079 the chat room was asking about influences. Oh yeah, hi Isaac. So 988 01:19:33,359 --> 01:19:38,960 I don't know which ones he's hearing in my music, but I guess one 989 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,359 of my favorite comments I've had from somebody was a gig they asked me if 990 01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:48,239 I was the baby of Berk and Scrill x oh kidding that That made me 991 01:19:48,359 --> 01:19:55,079 laugh, So I like that one. Yeah. I think influences a difficult 992 01:19:55,159 --> 01:19:58,119 right, because I know who I listened to and who I look up to. 993 01:19:58,319 --> 01:20:00,600 But actually it's not necessarily who I sound like, if that makes sense. 994 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,479 Yea, So maybe it do sound a bit like yourk and Skull likes 995 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:10,239 had a baby. But I listened to all kinds of things, you know. 996 01:20:10,319 --> 01:20:15,640 I listened to jazz, folk, I listened to you know, like 997 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,800 even like thrash metal. Sometimes I'll listen to anything I've brought up on classical 998 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:28,199 music, but I've been really inspired by some artists recently, including Rena Sawayama. 999 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,640 Her first album called Sawayama, is just this incredible piece of work where 1000 01:20:33,399 --> 01:20:36,880 it doesn't sound anything like what I do, but it's just that her kind 1001 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:43,119 of artistic vision and message and her humor it's something I really identify with. 1002 01:20:44,399 --> 01:20:48,079 So her first album particularly, I think, is just an amazing work. 1003 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:53,640 The lyrics are very powerful, the music is really fun and catchy, but 1004 01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,560 also it's got this kind of edge. Yeah, So she was a big 1005 01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,479 influence on me recently by I think I sound like her, and then I 1006 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:06,479 think visually, I think I have been influenced quite a lot by people like 1007 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:12,359 Berk because she puts so much artistry into her performance. But I think as 1008 01:21:12,399 --> 01:21:15,039 a musician, one of the biggest people, one of the biggest influence on 1009 01:21:15,079 --> 01:21:21,399 me is Kate Bush because she, you know, she was there like writing, 1010 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,600 performing, producing everything herself sometimes. You know, she loved to be 1011 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:31,239 involved in like every aspect of the of the music. And I just love 1012 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:35,119 Hounds of Love, her album. That's just something I've listened to you so 1013 01:21:35,279 --> 01:21:42,720 many times. It's kind of pretty close to perfection for me. Yeah, 1014 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,199 but yeah, like I'd be really interested to know from Isaac or from anyone 1015 01:21:46,279 --> 01:21:49,079 else, like who they hear in my music, because people hear all different 1016 01:21:49,119 --> 01:21:51,560 kinds of things, you know, And I always think it's difficult to like 1017 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:58,720 label what I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it is it 1018 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:03,560 is It is quite unique. Is that in terms of when you when you 1019 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:09,800 do play out, is it challenging to find other artists to open for or 1020 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,920 have them open for you or whatnot? Or or do you do shows where 1021 01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,039 it's just you? Because I would imagine, because what you're doing is unique, 1022 01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:21,399 that that might be a challenge to find other artists who you can share 1023 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:27,399 a show with. You know, it's surprising like when I started. So 1024 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:32,279 I did my first gig two years ago and I opened for a band who 1025 01:22:32,359 --> 01:22:35,880 were friends of mine, and now I'm dating the bass player. So there 1026 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:42,000 you go. Ye, and that called Silvatte. They haven't played a show 1027 01:22:42,039 --> 01:22:44,840 in a while, but they're very very different to me. But they just 1028 01:22:45,159 --> 01:22:47,520 I hadn't made the stuff yet, to be fair, you know, my 1029 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:54,880 music back then was still being formulated. It was a bit more exploratory. 1030 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,760 But I remember thinking, oh, I know what I want to do, 1031 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,319 but I don't know where the gigs are for it. So I set up 1032 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:10,920 my own gig called Fluff and it's a regular night of electronica in Manchester. 1033 01:23:11,079 --> 01:23:15,880 We do it every two months. We tend to platform queer artists in Manchester. 1034 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,800 There's a big scene here for that, but it's focused on electronic music 1035 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:23,399 producers who want to do their first gig, or maybe you want to try 1036 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:28,439 out some new ideas and literally anything goes, you know, as long as 1037 01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:32,319 it sort of falls under the umbrella electronica. And so I started that because 1038 01:23:32,319 --> 01:23:34,640 I didn't know, like you asked, like, I had no idea where 1039 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,960 I was going to fit in. And I started doing like Wilder and Wilder 1040 01:23:39,039 --> 01:23:43,960 stuff because I had this space to evolve in. And then I took Fluff 1041 01:23:44,199 --> 01:23:47,560 with me in a sense every time I go on stage now, I feel 1042 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:54,720 like I imagine that I've got this very open minded audience and I just bring 1043 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,560 it, bring it, you know. But but actually I have had some 1044 01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,239 really great artists to to open for recently. So I supported Anna Meredith, 1045 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:08,319 who is this incredible electronic musician and composer a bit like me. She's done 1046 01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:10,840 both, so she's been a huge, huge influence on me as well, 1047 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:17,199 because she's a classical composer who started doing electronic music and now you know she's 1048 01:24:17,239 --> 01:24:21,039 got banned and so she's really inspired me. So being able to open the 1049 01:24:21,079 --> 01:24:24,760 show for her was like a dream come true because you know, I'd kind 1050 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:30,239 of grown up looking up to her, so that was amazing. And then 1051 01:24:31,079 --> 01:24:34,800 I'm also going to open for Harry N. Murray, who is this Japanese 1052 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:43,359 artist who's on tour. I'm supporting her in October in Manchester and she is 1053 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:53,520 like a sort of electronica punk metal fusion, so she's very much doing her 1054 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,039 own thing as well. But it just works, and like I feel like, 1055 01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:00,359 I feel like if I if I get my So a lot of my 1056 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,520 tracks sound very different to metal Hotel. That's my most out there. Okay, 1057 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:08,279 so I don't do that in everything. It's so it's a lot, 1058 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:12,159 right, So I have ones that are a bit more chill or a bit 1059 01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:18,920 more lighthearted. I have ones that are like just songs, just ballads, 1060 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:23,119 and so I'm quite I'm quite flexible with who I'll gig with. I've done 1061 01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:26,800 piano gigs where I just sit and play all my piano songs the grand piano. 1062 01:25:28,039 --> 01:25:31,239 But yeah, so surprisingly I have been able to find artists to do 1063 01:25:31,399 --> 01:25:38,520 gigs with because I think there's a kind of blossoming scene in the UK for 1064 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,880 this kind of thing, and that's maybe been partly influenced by the pandemic. 1065 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,720 You know, maybe a lot of people started doing stuff at home and doing 1066 01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:50,039 kind of weird and wonderful electronic sounds. And I think also Manchester is quite 1067 01:25:50,039 --> 01:25:54,560 an open minded place, like you know, I've met a lot of people 1068 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:58,039 here who just want to see something new. So yeah, but I haven't 1069 01:25:58,039 --> 01:26:00,760 I haven't done any like you know, I did. I did a couple 1070 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,920 of music festivals. I did Blue Dot Festival last year. That's sort of 1071 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,319 science and music festivals. That worked because I think when people go there and 1072 01:26:06,319 --> 01:26:10,640 they're like it's science and it's music, then when you're a sort of mad 1073 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:15,800 inventor musician, which I guess you could call me that, and it kind 1074 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,239 of fits in if you see what I'm saying now, that makes sense. 1075 01:26:17,319 --> 01:26:21,960 Yeah, that does make sense. It's interesting what you said about the pandemic 1076 01:26:23,079 --> 01:26:27,359 too, because I and I've had this conversation with a lot of musicians where 1077 01:26:27,359 --> 01:26:30,039 I always say, you know, obviously the pandemic was horrible, but we 1078 01:26:30,119 --> 01:26:33,199 have to find those silver linings where we can. And one of the silver 1079 01:26:33,359 --> 01:26:38,800 linings is it really did kind of force people to find new ways to create, 1080 01:26:39,279 --> 01:26:42,439 to be creative, and to share that with other people. You know. 1081 01:26:43,359 --> 01:26:47,520 Yeah, bands, bands making music online together from remote places, you 1082 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:51,640 know, doing live performances where everybody's in a different place but they're all on 1083 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,720 a zoom call together playing a song. You know, things like that. 1084 01:26:57,399 --> 01:27:00,479 I always say too, we're kind of lucky that thedemic happened when it did 1085 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:04,159 in terms of the timing, because if it if it had happened twenty years 1086 01:27:04,199 --> 01:27:10,000 ago or even ten years ago, it would have been without all the technology 1087 01:27:10,079 --> 01:27:12,520 that we have now, it would have been that much more challenging. And 1088 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,720 uh yeah, and also too, just as a broader concept, anytime you 1089 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:23,239 can take something that's negative but make something creative out of it, then it 1090 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:28,239 kind of that kind of helps. So so with the pandemically, yeah, 1091 01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,640 yeah, go ahead, sorry I interpret to you. No, it's okay. 1092 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,920 Yeah, Like what you're saying, you take something creative out something bad, 1093 01:27:36,039 --> 01:27:40,199 Like do you do that with your music as well? Yeah? I 1094 01:27:40,279 --> 01:27:44,359 mean when when I played in bands. Yeah, some of the songs I 1095 01:27:44,399 --> 01:27:49,760 would write would be about traumatic experiences or you know, nothing particularly novel the 1096 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,760 same kind of stuff that everybody goes through. But yeah, I mean just 1097 01:27:54,159 --> 01:28:00,279 just generally and anytime, even even not just music, Like I won't go 1098 01:28:00,319 --> 01:28:02,720 into the details of it, but Jenny and I quite a few years ago 1099 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:09,159 we had a challenging experience with someone we lived with, and and we actually 1100 01:28:09,239 --> 01:28:15,159 made an entire podcast about that whole experience. There's like twenty two episodes or 1101 01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:17,800 something, and yeah, yeah, and it's it was a whole thing. 1102 01:28:18,199 --> 01:28:23,840 But but yeah, I think just generally in life anything that anytime, if 1103 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:29,479 you can take something negative and make something out of it creatively, whether it's 1104 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,359 music or a podcast or a script for a movie or whatever it is, 1105 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,800 then you know, you you kind of you you win, really, you 1106 01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:41,479 know, that's that's like the ultimate victory of that experience. If you know, 1107 01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,239 whether it's someone who hurt you or just or an illness that you had 1108 01:28:45,319 --> 01:28:46,840 or whatever it is, if you come out on the other side of it 1109 01:28:47,039 --> 01:28:54,279 with something that you've created, then that's that's victory. That's truly overcoming whatever 1110 01:28:54,399 --> 01:28:57,640 that thing was that you went through. Yeah, that's a beautiful way of 1111 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,520 putting it. Thank you. Yeah, I feel like. So there's a 1112 01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:08,640 lyric in one of my songs which is called the Half of It this song, 1113 01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:15,960 and it's from an EPI did called Human. The first song there's a 1114 01:29:15,079 --> 01:29:24,720 line which says turn arrows into flowers, and I had this like, it 1115 01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:30,479 sounds really cheesy out of context, but maybe it is really cheesy. But 1116 01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:35,960 I had this really strong image in my mind of all the things we carry 1117 01:29:36,039 --> 01:29:40,800 with us. I'm gonna go really deep for a sec. All the things 1118 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:45,079 that we carry with us in life that are really painful, being like arrows 1119 01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:49,439 that have hit us and a piercing our skin, and and I kind of 1120 01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,880 we're carrying around like they're stuck in us and we can't pull them out. 1121 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,760 And there's this bit in the song where I say, like you can't see 1122 01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,720 the iron rusting through me, So it's like maybe they're like iron hips arrowheads, 1123 01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:04,399 and it's like rusting into you because you can't take them out. And 1124 01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:10,680 I had this image of like wanting to turn them all into like roses or 1125 01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:15,039 flowers instead and let them just like fall away, yea, rather than like 1126 01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:19,680 just poisoning you. Slowly. And I think so much trauma and so much 1127 01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:24,840 pain and grief that we all have it kind of kind of like slowly poison 1128 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:30,720 us. And I love the idea of being able to transform that into something 1129 01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:36,279 that can just become beautiful and then fall away. And rather than like trying 1130 01:30:36,279 --> 01:30:39,640 to yank it out, you know, like rather trying to pull out these 1131 01:30:40,039 --> 01:30:42,800 these things and open up the wounds, it's like transform them. And I 1132 01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,520 think, like you said, that's the beauty of being a creative person, 1133 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:54,000 is that you give yourself permission to find that. Oh yeah, that's why 1134 01:30:54,079 --> 01:30:57,439 people get into a stand up comedy. I mean, you know, any 1135 01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:01,800 stand up comedian, we'll tell you they're they're probably the ones who who take 1136 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,640 that path the most, and that you know, they so much of the 1137 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:10,399 reason they want to make people laugh, and and especially the ones that take 1138 01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:15,760 experiences from their own lives and put that into their their routines is because they're 1139 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,079 that that's how they're working through it. They're there, that's how they create 1140 01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:21,760 something from from whatever it is that they went through. And uh uh, 1141 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,880 they all you know, it's it's almost become a cliche, really, but 1142 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,039 they say, you know, the best stand up. Comedians are the ones 1143 01:31:29,079 --> 01:31:32,199 who who suffered the most growing up and then they you know, they grow 1144 01:31:32,279 --> 01:31:36,279 up to be really funny because they had to, because that's that's that's their 1145 01:31:36,319 --> 01:31:40,680 therapy, that's how they deal with it all. So, yes, it's 1146 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,680 beautiful. It's such a beautiful thing to be able to do. Yeah, 1147 01:31:45,119 --> 01:31:49,640 yeah, love love it. We've gone really deep, right, absolutely, 1148 01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:54,359 absolutely, well you you you have been very generous with your time and we 1149 01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,279 appreciate it, and we're actually going to, uh, we'll let you go 1150 01:31:57,359 --> 01:32:00,119 in a moment, but I do want to end a segment with another one 1151 01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:04,840 of your songs. And I was thinking, fluff work unless you have a 1152 01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:10,560 different unless you have something you would rather I play. Well, I'm wondering 1153 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,720 what you have there? Do you have for example, after what we've talked 1154 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,600 about, I wonder if you have a quiet death there, which is yes, 1155 01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:25,279 huge contrast if everyone wants a downers it's like the it's like the end 1156 01:32:25,359 --> 01:32:28,680 of the party. So my EP that just came out called Weird Party, 1157 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,520 I started with Metal Hotel and they ended with a Quiet Death, and it's 1158 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:34,560 like there's a lot that happens in between. But if as an alternative, 1159 01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:39,640 if you want to give people a bit of a boost and something to like 1160 01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:43,399 dance too and feel great. Then whale House is probably one of my most 1161 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:51,720 popular tracks because it's completely ridiculous and I made it with artificial intelligence collaboration real 1162 01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:58,720 wish. Yeah, So just before I go, there's this software called Prism 1163 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:03,439 sample R and N, which basically was trained on my music and it imitated 1164 01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:10,800 my voice because what it does is it reads the visual wave forms of a 1165 01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:14,600 sound file. It like reads it like an image, choose up all these 1166 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:19,319 images and then it produces its own wave forms in response. And honestly, 1167 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:25,159 it's hilarious. What it tried to do to imitate me was was something else 1168 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,359 called whale House, which is hilarious. Well, well, well we'll play 1169 01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,560 that one then, because I'm really curious now, But if anyone wants a 1170 01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,600 little cry, then a Quiet Death is one of my best songs, I 1171 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:40,239 think, But I think I think whale House will make people laugh, so 1172 01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,119 I think maybe that's the one. We'll go with that one. I'm really 1173 01:33:43,159 --> 01:33:45,479 curious. Hey, by the way, since you mentioned it, are you 1174 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,520 concerned about AI at all in terms of music or do you think it's it's 1175 01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:53,760 probably more of a help than a hinder answer, Yeah, sorry, go 1176 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:57,319 ahead. I think a lot of people are concerned about it for good reasons 1177 01:33:57,399 --> 01:34:00,439 because, like any tool that humans and you know, it can be used 1178 01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:08,319 for multitude of purposes. And I think the issue is when it's used to 1179 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:15,680 replace artists. I just don't think that's right because I think that what it's 1180 01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:23,439 creating is just plagiarism and it will just diminish the value of what's being made. 1181 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:27,640 When it's used as an assistive or collaborative tool, I think that's when 1182 01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:31,920 it's fulfilling its purpose because there's a lot of mundane, difficult, repetitive things 1183 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,079 that humans like waste our time on. So I guess that's what it's useful 1184 01:34:35,079 --> 01:34:40,279 for for people is to collaborate with And that's why I was happy to collaborate 1185 01:34:40,399 --> 01:34:43,960 with these software engineers who are working on this stuff, because I was like, 1186 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:45,760 I'm going to treat this as a tool and I'm going to use it 1187 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:51,439 with myself having the creative control. But what I think it needs it needs 1188 01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:56,279 legislating, It needs regulating. It needs to be controlled so that people don't 1189 01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:01,279 just plagiarize and take away people's jobs. Basically, right. I also think 1190 01:35:01,359 --> 01:35:03,880 that there's this thing of you know, it's an unknown We don't know how 1191 01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,680 far it can go, we don't know how much information it can gobble up. 1192 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:10,720 But the most heartening thing I think that I heard about it recently was 1193 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:16,239 the basically chat Gypt, which is the text based AI that lots lots of 1194 01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:23,039 people using as an assistive guide for writing articles, writing content, for finding 1195 01:35:23,079 --> 01:35:28,359 out information. It's sort of peaked as far as I can tell, because 1196 01:35:29,079 --> 01:35:32,079 it was trained on a version of the Internet from twenty twenty before it was 1197 01:35:32,239 --> 01:35:38,640 created. Now the Internet is flooded with content created by chat Chypt. It 1198 01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:43,000 can't be trained on the Internet as it is now because so much of it 1199 01:35:43,279 --> 01:35:45,800 is created by itself, if that makes sense. So it's sort of like 1200 01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,600 a loop. Oh yeah, no, I get it. It's funny too, 1201 01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:54,119 because I can always tell when I you know, because things show up 1202 01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:59,399 on my feed and you know, I'll click something that looks interesting and I 1203 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:04,479 can tell it away that it was written by AI because it'll it'll just be 1204 01:36:05,319 --> 01:36:10,359 it'll just be strange. You know, it's something music related, you know, 1205 01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,920 about one of my favorite bands, and I click it and it's like, 1206 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,560 oh yeah, this was not written by a human. Yeah, yeah, 1207 01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:19,119 no, right, it just feels like it's uncanny Valley, isn't it. 1208 01:36:19,159 --> 01:36:24,079 It's the uncanny value situation of like, this is imitating a human, 1209 01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:30,640 but it's not a human, right, And it's often just like yeah, 1210 01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,159 it just feels wrong. So I don't think it will ever replace humans. 1211 01:36:33,159 --> 01:36:36,479 I just think we need to regulate it. People don't lose their jobs and 1212 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:42,960 we get rubbish art. Yeah yeah, or of course the worst case scenario 1213 01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:46,960 that AI takes over and decides that doesn't need us anymore, Ye, shuts 1214 01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,000 down the human race. Well, you know what, we can turn off 1215 01:36:49,039 --> 01:36:53,720 the Internet. There's something that is possible, you know there, It is 1216 01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:58,359 possible to switch off the Internet. So yeah, so we can always take 1217 01:36:58,399 --> 01:37:01,239 away its power source. That's the thing I think about. That's that's true. 1218 01:37:01,279 --> 01:37:09,159 There is a way to unplug it. Uh no said before we so 1219 01:37:09,279 --> 01:37:12,000 we'll we will go with whale house in a moment. But before we let 1220 01:37:12,039 --> 01:37:15,359 you go to what do people know? I'm sorry, what do they need 1221 01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,159 to know in terms of how to find you online, where to find your 1222 01:37:17,239 --> 01:37:20,319 music, where's the best place to go social media? Anything? You want 1223 01:37:20,319 --> 01:37:24,279 to make sure our listeners know about. Well, thank you so much, 1224 01:37:24,319 --> 01:37:26,680 Matt, Thank you so much for having me. It's been so lovely to 1225 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,199 chat with you and such an honor to be on your show all the way 1226 01:37:30,239 --> 01:37:34,760 over in the in the States. So like, thank you. So I 1227 01:37:35,079 --> 01:37:41,560 have Spotify, I have Instagram. These are two of the ones I use 1228 01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,279 the most. I also have band Camp, which is where you can buy 1229 01:37:44,359 --> 01:37:47,960 my merchandise or support me directly as not as by buying my music all of 1230 01:37:48,039 --> 01:37:53,199 those. If you search for my name, which is n O R R 1231 01:37:53,359 --> 01:37:59,359 I S E T t E, then you'll find me. On Instagram, 1232 01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:03,039 I'm Nora's set Underscore Official. That's where I post the most interesting stuff I 1233 01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:05,439 think, and then YouTube as well if you want to watch my videos. 1234 01:38:06,199 --> 01:38:11,560 I have a new single coming out on Friday, which is a very chill 1235 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:17,680 chill mix, very different to what we've heard this evening. It's from my 1236 01:38:18,039 --> 01:38:23,560 DJ set at Manages to International Festival last months and I've called it Imaginary Situations. 1237 01:38:24,319 --> 01:38:26,439 So that's coming out this Friday. If anyone wants to listen to that. 1238 01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:30,680 Oh yeah, So that'll be a nice relaxing one. It's got some 1239 01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:34,560 experimental sounds and I'm playing with lots of different ideas. I'm basically like remixing 1240 01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:40,479 my own music in it. So that's coming out on Friday. Yeah, 1241 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:44,760 and I haven't planned an international tour yet, but one day I would love 1242 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,359 to come to the States and do some concerts, so I'll let you know. 1243 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:53,960 Yeah, please please absolutely all right, well we will, we will 1244 01:38:54,039 --> 01:38:56,520 let you go, and then I'm going to hit this track. But Nora 1245 01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,119 said, thank you so much. You've been very generous with your time and 1246 01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,319 apreciate it. And I really enjoyed the conversation as well, and thank you 1247 01:39:02,399 --> 01:39:05,159 so much for joining us. And we'll have to do this again soon. 1248 01:39:05,279 --> 01:39:09,800 It sounds like you've you've got a lot of new stuff coming, so we'll 1249 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,159 have plenty to talk about again in the future, I have no doubt. 1250 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,640 Thank you so much, Matt. It's been beautiful to talk to you, 1251 01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,439 and I hope you have a really, really lovely rest of your evening. 1252 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,520 To everyone listening, thank you so much. All right, thank you, 1253 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:25,640 all right, take care bye bye, take caret bye. All right. 1254 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,560 Wonderful. So that was Nori sett all the way from the UK. So 1255 01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,359 let's give this a listen. I'm very curious to here this is one of 1256 01:39:30,399 --> 01:39:33,920 the ones I did not listen to already, so I am I am curious 1257 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:38,159 to hear this. So this is whale House. We're going to give this 1258 01:39:38,279 --> 01:39:42,239 a listen and then well we'll come back and wrap up today's show. But 1259 01:39:42,399 --> 01:40:29,199 I checked this out. Whale House from Noris Sett Whalehouse, Dally Kitchen, 1260 01:40:29,319 --> 01:40:48,800 the Wheelhouse like whalehouse food boo, whalehouse foot both foot both the hind the 1261 01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:59,279 whale House on foot, bodily in the wheelhouse, Dearly kitchen, the Whitehouse, 1262 01:41:00,239 --> 01:41:06,520 till the Kish, in the Whitehouse, till the Kish, the Whalehouse, 1263 01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:39,359 Whilhouse, the can, whale House like any whale lives till they can 1264 01:41:39,720 --> 01:42:31,279 the Whitehouse. Do you like any whale? Do like a wheel? Do 1265 01:42:31,439 --> 01:43:17,520 you like any You have quite no hos Like, well, that's pretty cool. 1266 01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:23,079 That is whale House. That is Nora Set. And thank you again 1267 01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:26,079 so much to Nori Set for for joining us today. We talked for a 1268 01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:29,600 long time, but I really enjoyed that a lot. And uh, I 1269 01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,640 like her music. I think it's pretty cool. It's different, definitely, 1270 01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:35,279 Uh one of the more, if not the most unique thing we've had on 1271 01:43:35,359 --> 01:43:39,119 the show in terms of music and Uh, yeah, that's cool stuff. 1272 01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:43,600 That's a that is a fun song that did not disappoint. Uh and uh 1273 01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:49,520 yeah, Uh. Norisset dot com is the website n O R R I 1274 01:43:50,119 --> 01:43:56,039 S E T t E Nori set with an N not Morris. I saw 1275 01:43:56,119 --> 01:43:59,479 somebody in the chatroom kept writing Morris set. No, it's Norris set with 1276 01:44:00,039 --> 01:44:03,479 with an end. Very cool And if you miss any part of our conversation, 1277 01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,199 of course it'll be in the archive in just a little bit. We 1278 01:44:06,319 --> 01:44:10,560 do have a few minutes left in today's show. This is Matt Connerton Unleashed. 1279 01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:14,680 Of course, we are live from these studios of wm n H ninety 1280 01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:18,079 five point three FM in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast 1281 01:44:18,199 --> 01:44:23,239 channel six. If you're in Manchester and Hello twolve our online listeners across the 1282 01:44:23,319 --> 01:44:26,680 nation and around the globe. You can go to my Uh, you can 1283 01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,960 go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all your live streaming options, 1284 01:44:30,039 --> 01:44:32,279 a social media links, contact infosh archives, et cetera, et cetera. 1285 01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,640 And uh, if you would like to get in with a quick call, 1286 01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:39,560 we do have a few minutes left today six zero three two five zero six 1287 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:43,640 zero seven six zero three two five zero six zero seven. And at the 1288 01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,159 end of the show, I will play that other song she was talking about, 1289 01:44:45,159 --> 01:44:48,159 a quiet death that is at the end of the album. We'll we'll 1290 01:44:48,199 --> 01:44:50,439 save that for the end, liar least part of it. We might not 1291 01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:55,359 fit the full song. And but yeah, six oz three two five O 1292 01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:57,680 six zo seven. The studio line is open if you want to get in 1293 01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,039 with a call. Six zero three two five zero six seven. By the 1294 01:45:00,119 --> 01:45:09,399 way, and I hadn't This wasn't where I had intended to go next. 1295 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:13,319 But this is pretty interesting. Jenny just sent me this a few minutes ago. 1296 01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,880 This is from politico dot com. This just went up. Yeah, 1297 01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:25,840 this just went up. In the last hour. New Hampshire Attorney General carefully 1298 01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:31,640 reviewing arguments that could keep Trump off the state's ballot. It's the latest development 1299 01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:36,520 in a long shot effort by some Republicans used the fourteenth Amendment to prevent the 1300 01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:41,800 former president from appearing on the twenty twenty four ballot. And by the way, 1301 01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:45,880 for those of you listening online who from other parts who might not know 1302 01:45:45,039 --> 01:45:51,199 this, I'm sure people around here know this very well that our Republican governor 1303 01:45:51,319 --> 01:45:57,119 Chris Sinunu opposes Trump being the nominee, and he's been over time, he's 1304 01:45:57,159 --> 01:46:01,199 been increasingly more vocal about it. But he goes so far as to say 1305 01:46:01,239 --> 01:46:05,800 there's no chance that Trump will be the nominee. Maybe he knows something we 1306 01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:11,640 don't, because he's pretty confident about saying it, because the math doesn't add 1307 01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,479 up as far as Trump not being the nominee. I firmly believe that he 1308 01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:19,439 will be. But this is interesting. Let's look at this. So again, 1309 01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:24,680 this just went up. The New Hampshire Attorney General's Office is quote carefully 1310 01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:29,600 reviewing the legal issues involved unquote in a long shot effort by some Republicans in 1311 01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,560 the state to keep former President Donald Trump off the ballot in twenty twenty four. 1312 01:46:33,079 --> 01:46:41,319 The office announced today Bryant Quirky Messner, an attorney and prominent Republican who 1313 01:46:41,399 --> 01:46:45,760 ran on Trump's endorsement as the state's twenty twenty US Senate nominee, has publicly 1314 01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:53,159 questioned Trump's eligibility to run for president, citing Section three of the Fourteenth Amendment. 1315 01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:58,399 The section disqualifies those who have taken an oath to support the Constitution from 1316 01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:04,319 holding office again if they quote engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States, 1317 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:12,920 or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof unquote. But other Republicans 1318 01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:16,479 in the state have pushed back. Chris Eager, chair of the state Republican 1319 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,680 Party, said, quote, I don't think the effort to limit the options 1320 01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:26,199 for our primary voters has any legs whatsoever unquote. Now the state's top legal 1321 01:47:26,319 --> 01:47:32,479 and election officials are weighing in. New Hampshire Attorney General John Formella and Secretary 1322 01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:36,840 of State David Scanlon said in a joint statement on Tuesday, quote both the 1323 01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:43,319 Secretary of State's office and the Attorney General's office are aware of public discourse regarding 1324 01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:47,439 the potential applicability of Section three of the fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution 1325 01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:55,279 to the upcoming presidential election cycle unquote, and they were calling out misinformation implying 1326 01:47:55,359 --> 01:48:00,439 that Scanlon's office had already taken a position on the issue. The state comes 1327 01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:05,239 after the Secretary of State's office was bombarded with calls on Monday, according to 1328 01:48:05,399 --> 01:48:11,119 NBC News, after conservative talk show host Charlie Kirk told listeners that New Hampshire 1329 01:48:11,199 --> 01:48:15,680 was trying to block Trump from the ballot. The statement they issued said quote, 1330 01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,199 neither the Secretary of State's office nor the Attorney General's office has taken any 1331 01:48:18,239 --> 01:48:26,520 position regarding the potential applicability of Section three. Wasn't that already in the article 1332 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:30,840 Politico needs to proofread these or maybe AI wrote this and it didn't get I 1333 01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,840 don't know. I don't know why Charlie Kirk, by the way, would 1334 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:38,640 be saying that, except the only reason I could think I could think of 1335 01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:44,159 was is maybe because our governor, our Republican governor, is so opposed to 1336 01:48:44,279 --> 01:48:46,399 Trump, maybe he just kind of dreamed that up in his own head and 1337 01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:55,800 then he goes and he goes and repeats that. But that this has been 1338 01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:02,000 this has been in the news recently because there have been a couple of I 1339 01:49:02,079 --> 01:49:04,880 think they wrote an op ed, I forget, was it in the Wall 1340 01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:13,600 Street Journal? Or there's a couple of conservative scholars who have constitutional scholars who 1341 01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:18,000 are making the argument that Trump is ineligible because of Section three of the fourteenth 1342 01:49:18,039 --> 01:49:26,520 Amendment. And their argument is that yes, he did engage in insurrection because 1343 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:30,439 of January six, and that he and as far as giving aid and comfort 1344 01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:34,319 to the enemy, while he did say in that video when he came out 1345 01:49:34,359 --> 01:49:36,600 and said, hey, you have to go home now. He also said 1346 01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:42,640 things like I love you, you're great people, or whatever. I understand 1347 01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:46,439 why you're upset. You should be upset. And of course his comments about 1348 01:49:47,199 --> 01:49:55,880 pardoning some of the January sixth insurrectionists or most of them, one could argue 1349 01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:01,640 that is giving aid and comfort to mestic terrorists. Remember when the President of 1350 01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:04,560 the United States puts his hand on a Bible and swear as an oath to 1351 01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:12,199 uphold the Constitution and to defend the country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. 1352 01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:15,439 So depending on your point of view, and you know, we can 1353 01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:19,159 argue about it. I mean my personal position, as as you know if 1354 01:50:19,199 --> 01:50:23,279 you're a regular listener of the show, is that, yes, the using 1355 01:50:23,319 --> 01:50:28,760 the term insurrection is absolutely appropriate for what happened on jan six An insurrection the 1356 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:35,720 Webster's definition, is a violent uprising against a government or authority. And again 1357 01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:41,439 Trump's comments in that video, I do think, personally, I believe do 1358 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:45,279 constitute aid and comfort to the enemy, in this case, the enemy being 1359 01:50:45,359 --> 01:50:51,479 the domestic terrorists who overran our capital on that day. That's my opinion. 1360 01:50:53,279 --> 01:50:57,960 Some people agree, some don't, But but that's where they're coming from those 1361 01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:01,319 who are making this argument. That's where they're coming from, including these conservative 1362 01:51:01,359 --> 01:51:04,399 constitutional scholars who have said, look, it's in the constitution, he's not 1363 01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:09,319 eligible. But I don't think it's going to be enough to keep him off 1364 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,359 the ballot here in New Hampshire or anywhere else. And I do believe he'll 1365 01:51:12,359 --> 01:51:15,720 be the nominee. I absolutely, I am convinced of that. And again, 1366 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:20,119 if you're a regular listener, you know that all of the Ronda Fervero 1367 01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:24,800 and the chat Ram from the great state of California says she agrees. And 1368 01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:30,319 you know, if you're a regular listener, you know all of the legal 1369 01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:33,560 problems that Trump is having actually I believe help him in the short run. 1370 01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:38,680 They help him on his path to the nomination. They will not help him 1371 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,760 in terms of the general election, but as far as winning the nomination and 1372 01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,960 the way he's been able to successfully martyr himself to his supporters. You know, 1373 01:51:47,119 --> 01:51:51,720 I believe it virtually all but assures that he will be the nominee. 1374 01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:56,159 That's my view of it. All right, we are out of time, 1375 01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,119 by the way, if you're listening live on Tuesday, of course, coming 1376 01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:01,840 up next is through the stage Door hosted by the great Rob die On and 1377 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:06,039 don't forget be back bright and early seven am tomorrow morning for the Morning Show 1378 01:52:06,119 --> 01:52:10,760 with Peter White right here on WMNH. And if you miss any part of 1379 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,039 today's show it we'll be up in just a little bit at WNH radio dot 1380 01:52:14,199 --> 01:52:16,960 org and on my website Matt Connerton dot com. And thank you again so 1381 01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:20,840 much to Norissett, all the way from Manchester in the UK, that is, 1382 01:52:21,199 --> 01:52:25,359 for joining us today via Skype. Wonderful to talk to her. I 1383 01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:29,000 really enjoyed the conversation. You can tell how much I'm vibing with a guest 1384 01:52:29,079 --> 01:52:30,880 by how long I keep them on. And that was a long conversation, 1385 01:52:31,039 --> 01:52:36,680 so very interesting. And I really dig her music. And we're gonna close 1386 01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:41,159 with this. This is another one from her album Weird Party. This is 1387 01:52:41,199 --> 01:52:44,840 called a Quiet Death and she did warn us this one's a little bit of 1388 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:47,399 a downer, but that's the end of the show. It's a Quiet Death 1389 01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:53,720 from Norissette to close out today's Matt Connerton Unleashed. And that's it for us 1390 01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,520 for now. I will talk at y'all a little bit later. By everybody, 1391 01:53:00,119 --> 01:53:15,399 this time, I can't recall feel little Date Day, the way outside, 1392 01:53:16,039 --> 01:53:30,399 the size, Wedday, flaws and d we are my ghost, soft, 1393 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:47,319 the shine which when backs to the shoe away after his night system, 1394 01:53:51,640 --> 01:54:00,039 aftersays days and stuff again. After all, it's just