Welcome everybody. Here we go. It is that time again, Matt Connerton
Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five
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Infolk show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Tuesday, August twenty nine,
two thousand twenty three, so nice to have you all with me.
By the way, our musical guest today coming up at the top of the
hour is Norara Set. Nora Set will be skyping in from Manchester, but
not Manchester, New Hampshire, from the Manchester UK, so really looking forward
to that. We get a lot of very very interesting artists out of the
UK who come on the show and she she does kind of a while.
I'll let her explain it. By far, I would say the most unique
style that we've had on the show. It's electronic music, but it's it's
different, it's it's not what you what you hear on the radio or even
in the club normally, So really looking forward to that. So she'll be
skyping in at five pm Eastern, will a little bit before the top of
the hour. Well we'll play one of her songs and then go right into
the interview and but yeah, we'll feature some some of her music today as
well. Really looking forward to speaking with her, and I am looking forward
to speaking with you. The studio line is open six zo three two five
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We'll go ahead and say hello everybody in the Facebook live chat, and then
we'll get into some stuff, some shenanigans and chicanery as it were, or
we'll just talk about politics. I guess it's all the same. Jenny,
of course is in the chat. And let's see who else do we have
in here? She says, Shalom peeps. Also Jay fed from the Great
state of Vermont. Oh, and I think our friend, I think this
might be easy. G on the line, Eric, is that you hello?
Hello? Do you hear me? Yes? Can you hear me?
I just want to give a good call, not feeling the best as I
messaged you earlier. But they couldn't have done anything wrong? Was ten bells?
They don't do that very often, think they, Eric. I can
barely understand you. I heard they didn't do anything wrong, and I have
no idea what you said after that? Do you hear me now? I
can hear you. Yeah, I couldn't hear you very clearly there for a
minute. They did everything right with the ten bells. They don't do that
very often, as you well now, they did everything right with the ten
dollars ten bells. Oh, ten bells you're talking about? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah, yes they did. They don't do that very often. I
think the last time they did with Eddie Garrel, like, they don't do
it very often. No, no, only they only do the ten bell
salute if someone on the active who is currently active on the roster passes away.
They got another old guy. He and rustled in a long time,
Terry Funk. Yes, that is true, he's out of the mix thing.
I guess that was really good. You know, sometimes they don't drop
the ball, you know, do the right thing rust the day. That's
why I liked that. That's why I enjoyed that Friday show. As soon
as they said I'm going to do a ten bells, you know, it
was a good it was a good story about a bad story here, all
right. So that's all I got to say, and I you know I'm
doing join the rest of the show, all right, all right, easy,
thanks for the call, Bye bye. I understood most of that.
No, no fault of his own. I don't think that was a particularly
poor phone connection. But if you don't know what he was talking about,
I mean I was able to pick up enough of it. I knew what
he was talking about last week. Of course, as wrestling fans know,
Terry Funk and then bray Wyatt. Bray Wyatt was only uh thirty six years
old. They both passed away, and then they did the ten bell salute
of course on the on the program. So yeah, very very sad,
very sad last week. Well that does open up the phone line for you.
Six zho three two five ozho six zero seven. Oh, and we
have looks like our friend Shannon is on the line. High Shannon, Hello,
Hello, good afternoon. Who's the wrestler that? He's a wrestler.
He just like did the six hundred and fifteenth Make A Wish to do?
Did that sound familiar? Maybe too easy? I don't know offhand who that
is, but I know who it but I know who it probably is because
I believe last I knew John Cena held a record for the number of Make
a Wish children he had visited with. So so it's probably John Cena.
I don't I don't think, because I don't think there's anyone else who would
even mathematically come close to that number. So it's probably him. The name
the name rings the bell? Yeah, who was that singing this song right
before? You? Seemar? Well, uh, that was both of those
songs. That was Remy His name is Remy R E. M Y and
he does political song parodies. So he did one of well, actually he
so I played parodies of He did a parody of he does political song parodies
of actual politically tinged songs, so he did. He did a parody of
Try That in a Small Town by Jason Aldean called try That in a Large
Town yea, yeah yeah, and he also remy yes r E M y
and he also uh uh. He also did the federal employee version of Richmond
North of Richmond by Oliver Anthony. I didn't, I was. I was
listening to her Peter your show, and uh they were talking about the booze
there, the drinks, and I fell asleep and then it woke up with
us on the second song. All right, well, I'm glad you woke
up, Shannon. Yes, me too. Wow, that could be busiest
futer. But one thing in the last let's say, ten fifteen years,
what have we been doing? What has this country been doing more in the
last five ten years than ever before? Fracking? Mhm, fracking? No,
what space launches? Oh right, I guess does it seem like that
they're they're stepping up with what the space? The X men? There,
the X men. I think that's the X man. Tesla dude, oh
elon musk oh I see x man because Twitter changed to X. Yes,
I'm sorry, Uh, yes, I think I think he's building a space
station. In fact, I know you're being facetious, But how do you
know, I don't know. How do you know? I might know something,
Shannon, I might have some information that I can't share. For all
you know, I could have the inside track. Well I put it this
way to somebody because I thought about it, you know, And I'm going,
okay, besides the internet computers, because the world's going, you know,
just like you said them and the song. Visualize a glass Okay,
okay, a glass. I can see it. Yes, it's get water
in it. It's got some salt on the bottom. I like this.
I do a lot of visualization with my clients. Yes, okay, the
salt on the bottom, it gets salt on the bottom. Has just like
a sewing needle, sewing needle. I wouldn't drink that. You'll get the
sewy needle stuck in your throat and some spread and some spread okay, bread
thread. So the needle and thread is in the glass with water and the
salt. Yeah yeah, Now take a magnet and and put it in get
the take something to grab the needle and pull it up. What's going to
happen is everything is down, it's gonna pull it all up with it,
right, But not everything but particles and whatnot are going to come up with
that when it comes out. All right, I didn't do very well in
chemistry, Shannon, I have no idea. Yes, I'll take your chemistry
at all. I'll take your word for it. Particles will come up with
the when you take out the needle with the magnet. Yeah, it's if
you were to to get the needle and pull it up. I don't like
to handle needles, Shannon. I'm very clumsy, and I will prick myself
and then you know what's going to be in the water then, Shannon,
in that glass of water with the salt my blood, it's gonna be like
like the movie Jaws. It's gonna be horrifying that. Now this whole visualization
is beginning to upset me. I'm freaking out. I'm gonna have nightmares.
But no, the whole point is is that the needle kind of sort of
represents all the steps they're shooting up into space. Okay, Okay, there's
different atmospheres go on. I don't know how many exactly. However, if
you were to take do what I said, it's the needle is it's not
just going to come up clean and everything. Stay. I know I'm gonna
get infected. Step into space. It's like that needle threaded and atmosphere.
You know, you're you're pulling them through. I know where you're going with
the Shannon. I saw something about this. You punch holes in the atmosphere
when you launch these rockets into space, is what you're saying. Why I
did see something about that, is that where you're going with that. I
sure hope some punch holes, but but you take well not literally he right,
the atmosphere, and then the next one, and then the next one,
and you just you know it. The next thing you know, you're
in an next thing. You know you're in another galaxy. Yeah, well
I am in another galaxy. Oh congratulations, But I know this, but
well no, I was just thinking about that today. You know, they've
been shooting stuff up I don't even know how often up into space. Every
day. It seems like, huh, every day. It seems like every
day I turn on the news, there shooting another thing up there. It's
crazy, and it's going to come back down. The opposite. Everything up
there is getting pulled down when close up must come down. Sorry, Shannon,
I just had an urge to sing to you. It just seems to
to me that that's doing a lot to the climate. But nobody talks about
it. Nobody talks about it. I could be completely wrong or absolutely right.
No, you are right. Nobody talks about it. You are correct.
Come on, what my theory? Oh, well, you'll be nice.
Suppose Well, well, there is there is a lot of uh,
there is a lot of space junk up there that that just circles the Earth
in orbit. It is crowded up there, and that is there is a
legitimate concern that that some have expressed about there's so much stuff up there that
eventually you're gonna have too much, you know, just outdated, dead satellites
floating around, and eventually you're gonna have too much space junk up there.
And uh good crashing into the Moon, Well, we don't care if it
crashes into the moon, but I do. But if it if it crashes
into us, that's a problem. If it falls out of orbit and crashes
in US, where if it gets to a point where you just can't put
anything up there. You can't. You got a satellite you want to put
up there, but you can't because it's too crowded. Well, that's that's
that's mankind. They humankind, Shannon, Please don't be sexist. It's it's
twenty twenty three. Humankind, not mankind. You ladies, You ladies have
to take some responsibility for these problems too. Well. I started to say
that you're trying to put it you're trying to put it all on us dudes,
some of those satellites and that some of that space trunk belongs to you
ladies. That's right, none of a book. That. The thing is,
we haven't ruined Earth enough. We have to go ruin other places.
Now. You know, man can't leave people thank you cannot leave well enough
alone. That's right. Something. If it's not leave it alone, we
ruin everything. I've always said, you know, life would be easy if
it wasn't for all the people ruining everything. Well, it's sort of true.
It is true. Literally, you got people ruining stuff and it just
makes everything complicated. Look at that lady Jen that was on doing a Brady
smack down there with Peter, the one that made the recyclable cans there.
Yeah, and she said, someone guld feed them. It's always gonna be
something to ruin it. H punks. You know, that's why we a
nice, cute little Hello kiddy pace or something. Fine, but you know
it probably wasn't. That's why we can't have nice things. Yeah, all
right, Well, I just I liked my theory, and any any smart
people on the book of face there might say I could be right. Who
knows. No. I really did see something Shannon about uh a scientist said
something about launching launching these rockets into space and it does do something to the
atmosphere. But I didn't actually read the article because I was like, hmm,
it's science. I'm not good at science. M hmm. I wasn't
either, So you might be onto something, Shannon. Yeah, okay,
a good show. All right, Shannon, thank you for the call,
Jenny, I said, Hi, she can hear you. Hi, Jenny,
Melanie. I'm sorry. I don't mean to make your eyes roll,
all right, all right, all right, bye, Shannon. All right,
that was our friend, Shannon, and that does open up a line
for you. Six zero three two five zero six zero seven six zero three
two five zero six zero seven, Melanie said of the chatroom, Hahaha.
Yes, it's almost like she's like like she's a telepathic or psychic. H
Melanie, she she knows, she knows you're rolling your eyes. Uh,
let's see, Jenny says, if they roll too far, you will be
sad. Who else do we have in the Facebook live chat? Dj Steve
is in the Facebook live chat? Of course, I see Dj Steve every
Friday night for retro Spectrum Radio with pauly C, which is Friday nights from
eight to eleven pm right here on wm and H. Friday is my long
day here and it's my favorite day of the week. I do love it.
So Also I did see pauly C in the Facebook live chat, he
said, Hi, big fan, EAZYG is in the chat room. Also
Mike from Queen City Cabinetry. Queen City Cabinetry one of our great sponsors here
at WMH ninety five point three. And I also get to see Mike on
Friday nights for retro Spectrum Radio with pauly C. Jenny said, yes.
She also thinks it's John Cena who holds the record for make a Wish.
Hul Coogan used to do a lot of that too. Back in the day,
he used to do a lot of make a wish. But I do
believe John Cena holds the record. Isaac Banks is in the chatwoman says hello,
Matt, good afternoon. And also my friend Jeff Pegari says hello to
you, and Jeff says, what are you talking about today? For the
afternoon from my friend Jeff Bigari. While you just have to listen to find
out what we're talking about. Scott Robinson says, oh good, the entertainment
report. Nope, nope, sorry, Scott. I know you love Easyg's
entertainment Report, but it was not to be. He's taking a break from
that again, which is fine. Melanie says, I'm visualizing a lion.
You're not the boss of me, Shannon and Jenny said, that's true.
I'm the only one who handles needles and thread around here. Yes, I
wasn't kidding. I am very I am very clumsy. Isaac Bank says hashtag
Matt Connerton. Have you never listened to the band of Dog Star. Dog
Star is Brett dom Ross guitarist, lead vocals, Keanu Reeves bass guitar,
vocals, and Rob Mailhouse drums. I have heard dog Star. Actually yes,
not for a very long time, but but I have heard that band
dog Star hit song called Cornerstone. I don't remember that. Melanie says,
I can't wait until all the satellites start crashing into each other and all our
technology crashed into the ground. I have to tell you something, Melanie,
I disagree with you on that. I think that that would actually be very
bad. I think it would be calamitous, and I have a suspicion that
it would be difficult for me to do this show under those conditions. Hans
Smith joins us in the Facebook live chat and says, hey, Matt,
Hello, Hans. Let's see Isaac Banks says we will get gusty rain am
on Thursday morning in Greensboro, North Carolina. Well make sure you wear a
raincoat or something. Eric Street joins us in the Facebook live chat. Eric
says, I don't like X for Twitter. There's apps for Xbox X Affinity.
Too many xes gets too confusing. That's a good point. I haven't
thought of that, Eric, but you're right, there are a lot of
things. I think the reason Elon Musk went with X is because I think
there's a long term plan that I've read about that he wants to make kind
of like what Zuckerberg wants to do with the reason Facebook became meta, even
though it's still really Facebook. But some things say meta meta is supposed to
ultimately be this all encompassing thing and hence the meta, and I think Elon
Musk has something similar in mind for X. The X app is ultimately supposed
to do everything you could ever want in an app, and so he went
ahead and changed Twitter to X. Personally, I'm still calling it Twitter.
Hans Smith says Elon Musk has nothing on that car that runs on water.
Lol. Ooh does a Tessla run on water? If I could run on
water? That's a song never mind that was That was one of my not
great spontaneous song parodies. Let's see, let's uh. If you're just joining
us, Sue, we have a great musical guest coming up at the top
of the hour, Nora set will be skyping in all the way from the
UK. I wanted to talk a little bit about some additional thoughts I had
on a subject that Jenny and I spend some time on Yesterday on the show,
Oliver Anthony and his song Richmond North of Richmond. Oh Hans says,
California just came out with a car that runs entirely on water. Really interesting,
very interesting. I'll have to look that up. We're talking about Oliver
Anthony and his song Richmond North of Richmond, and I played, of course,
I had to find a radio edit for the FM radio, of course,
because we can't play anything with bad words here. And oh, Isaac
Banks got my song parody, yes, the late Eddie Money Walk on Water,
and so we played the song I had. I approached it the same
way I approached Try That in a Small Town by Jason Alden. I wanted
to play it on the show, play the song on the show without having
already listened to it all the way through, so I could give my live
off the cuff, sort of unvarnished, if you will, unprocessed, my
unleashed reaction to it. And Jenny did as well, and we played the
song and then we so we talked about the song, and then we talked
about some of the backlash, some of the initial backlash from the left because
conservatives online were embracing the song, and now there's backlash from conservatives because Oliver
Anthony turns out isn't necessarily a conservative, more of a centrist. Perhaps it's
a whole it's a whole thing. It's a whole big to do and it's
fascinating to me. And by the way, if you want to hear the
segment that we did yesterday, but you don't want to have to go back
and listen to the whole show. If you just miss that party, you
just want to hear that part. I did clip it and put it up
on YouTube of just that conversation. Just search Matt Connerton Unleashed Oliver Anthony.
It'll come right up. You'll be able to find it and you can hear
the conversation Jenny and I had about this. But last night I was reflecting
on it a little bit more and I went and so I looked up a
couple of conservative online commentators who were who are now upset with Oliver Anthony and
kind of get a vibe on what they're saying, and also a couple of
liberal commentators and how they're reacting to the statement that Oliver Anthony put out.
Oliver Anthony actually released a video online. I think it's about twenty minutes long
where he talks about all that's been happening, and he kind of gives his
thoughts on how he was apparently very bothered at at seeing his song featured at
the Republican debate in Milwaukee. Didn't like that. I mean it was it
was made into a question for the candidates, you know, the vice presidential
debate as I like to call it, because really they're all just running for
vice president anyway. But putting that aside, so I listened to Oliver Anthony's
video. It looks like he's just sitting in his h in a pickup truck.
He's kind of sitting there is he's just by himself, and he's got
a big steering wheel, looks like one of those older trucks, and uh,
you know, and he's talking. Then he's kind of just musing about
everything and he had a lot to get off his chest and an observation.
So the two of the things that some of the backlash that he's now getting
from con servatives who you know, they made him their their new champion after
the the the bright lights of Jason Aldean kind of faded with his song Try
That in a Small Town. Now they're their new song and the new artists
that they got behind is Oliver Anthony and they love they love that song Richmond
North of Richmond. But two of the things that that they're upset about,
and we discussed this yesterday on the show. One is, uh, somebody
found an interview where he had talked about diversity and talked about diversity being a
strength and whatnot. And so some of these again you know, like the
Daily Wire Crew, they don't they don't like that stuff. But the other
thing that they're upset with him about is people are accusing him of having faked
his accent because if you listen to the song, the style that he sings
with, you know, seems to have a Southern accent, but when you
hear him talk, he doesn't have that much of an accent. So they
feel betrayed by him. They feel like he fooled them, like he was
playing a character and that he wasn't authentic. And that part is particularly baffling
to me. And I'm sitting there last night I played the video of him
just kind of talking about everything that's happened to him and how his life has
changed because of the song, and how he feels about how the song is
being used, and he talks about how the song has been weaponized politically and
that was never his intention and all that. And I'm listening to him talk
and it's actually pretty compelling. I but I'm listening to him. I'm talking,
I'm thinking, you know, he sounds like he sounds like he's from
Virginia, And because he definitely has an accent, he sounds like he's from
Virginia, which is where he's from. And so I'm a little bit perplexed
about why people are accusing him of faking his accent. He does half a
Southern accent, but it's it's Virginia, you know, It's like the north
end of the healthy you know what I mean. But I don't I don't
know why these people are so upset with him over that. What were they
expecting the first time they heard him talk? Were they expecting that, you
know, he was gonna have this really thick Southern drawl. He's not from
Texas, he's not from Arkansas's from Virginia. What do you want from the
guy? You know? Were you expecting a Southern drawl with chewing tobacco dripping
out of his mouth? You know, I can't even I can't even do
it. I mean, but seriously, it's such a weird thing to be
angry with him about. But anyway, so people feel fooled, but I
think it's strange. But the other thing I was thinking about too last night
is I'm kind of looking at these different reactions. You know, again,
you have you have some people on the right who feel betrayed, which I
think is strange, but then you've also got some people on the left.
And I watched a couple of videos, like I watched a video by Kyle
Colenski, who I'm somewhat of a fan of because I enjoy his analysis.
Doesn't mean I agree with him on everything. I have to be I've learned
over the years, I have to be very careful about that. If I
say I'm a fan of somebody, people take that wrong and they think that
that means that I agree with them on everything I do. Not. I'm
definitely, I mean, he's you know, he's a pretty liberal guy.
I mean, I you know, I'm I'm a capitalist, and I don't
think Kyle Kolinski's a capitalist for one thing. But but he's he's talking about
he's going through the song and taking it line by line, and he's kind
of analyzing it, and he's analyzing the politics of Oliver Anthony. And but
the thing that I realized is when I listen to the video that Oliver Anthony
posted talking about everything that's been going on and all the reaction to his song,
I realized Oliver Anthony, from his point of view, I think is
really just kind of like most people who don't think about these things that deeply.
I don't think that most Americans, probably the vast majority of Americans.
I think I think most Americans care about politics at least a little bit.
But I don't think most Americans care about politics to the degree that say,
someone like me does who does a show like this because I love politics and
I'm a political junkie, or some of you who listen to the show because
you enjoy the political talk. I don't think. I don't think most Americans
even have time, you know, to to really to really get into these
issues on a deep level. And I think Oliver Anthony is probably just like
most Americans. And the other thing that that kind of led me to the
thought that that led me to is I think when people are analyzing the lyrics
of his song and finding things, say, identify with because there are some
you know, if you're a conservative, It's like I said yesterday, I
don't think it's how did I say it. I don't think it's a conservative
song. I don't think he's necessarily a conservative. But I can see why
if you're a conservative you might really like that song and some of the lyrics
in that song, because there are some conservative tropes in the lyrics. But
ultimately, whether you're whether you're relating to the song in some way or you're
criticizing the song, you know, like for example, Jenny and I talked
about he seems to take a swipe at people on public assistance that I think
is not that I don't agree with, for example, and kind of mixes
that with fat shaming. So I didn't you know that idn't like that.
But but here's the thing music is, even when it's a politically charged music,
Ultimately, music is art, and art is up to the individual to
interpret however you choose and in whatever way appeals to you or does not appeal
to you. But it's really up to you as an individual. So when
I guess what I'm saying is ultimately all of us, and you know,
myself included all of us who are so fascinated with this musician and his song,
and we're analyzing the lyrics and what does it all mean? And it
turns out he's been misunderstood and what does he really believe? And maybe we're
all just thinking much too deeply about it, because at the end of the
day, it's just a song and it's just music, and it's really up
to all of us as individuals to take from it what we want. So,
I guess if you're a conservative and you now feel somewhat betrayed because you
thought he was a conservat of and now you realize it it's really not.
You can still like the song because how the song or how you relate to
the song and how you feel the song relates to you, that's up to
you. It's not up to him. It's up to you. And on
the other hand, if you're on the left and you don't like the song
because well, you know, again, that's that's up to you, whether
you whether the lyrics turn you off because there are some conservative tropes in it,
or you know, maybe you I mean, I'm sure somewhere out there
there's uh some liberal minded person who maybe they hate the lyrics, but something
about the guy's voice they actually kind of like, well, you know,
or maybe there is something clever. There is something actually very clever about that
song. But we're gonna get too deep into the into analyzing it that I
don't and it's got nothing to do with the lyrics themselves, but I don't
want to even get into it. But there's there's something, there's something hidden
in that song that I think appeals to people that's very clever. And I
mean that in a very complimentary way to Oliver Anthony. But we won't get
into that now. But I was kind of analyzing it. But you know,
ultimately, art is art, and I think you can like the song
or not like the song. And I'm not, by the way, I'm
not suggesting that we shouldn't be talking about it. I love talking about music.
That's why I love interviewing musicians, and I love interviewing musicians about their
art. So I'm not saying we shouldn't be having all these discussions. I'm
just saying, though, if you liked the song when you first heard it,
just because the perspective from the person who wrote it may not be what
you thought it was, doesn't mean you now have to hate the song,
and vice versa. You know, maybe if you hated the song when you
first heard it because object to some of the lyrics, but then you know
now you're learning that Oliver Anthony might not be exactly who you thought he was
or who you judged him to be from that song, it doesn't mean well,
now you have to like the song. If you didn't like the song
before, you don't have to like it now you like it or you don't.
Ultimately, And I actually kind of like the song, to be honest
with you, again, I don't like but see, I don't like all
the lyrics, but I don't have to like all the lyrics to like the
song as a whole. Like I said, I don't like the part where
he talks about the three hundred pound guy on welfare whatever, it's kind of
cheap. Actually, I don't like that lyric, but that doesn't necessarily affect
how I feel about the song as a whole. You know, a song
can have a lyric in it I don't like. Doesn't mean I'm not going
to like the song. But art is art, you know, and it's
really up to us as individuals how we want to how we want to perceive
it, whether we want to accept it or reject it, and whether we
enjoy it or not. So I was kind of thinking about that last night
too, and part of what led me to that was I'm listening to Kyle
Kolinski trying to take the lyrics and sort of analyzing Oliver Anthony's politics and trying
to figure out what are his real politics. And it's like, you know,
if I had a chance to have a conversation with Kyle Kolinski, I
might say, well, you know, from my perspective, here's the problem.
I don't get the impression that Oliver Anthony thinks about this nearly as deeply
as you do. So you're analyzing this song and you're trying to analyze his
politics, when in reality, Oliver Anthony, I mean, he's got other
songs that aren't necessarily as politically tinged with certain tropes as this one is.
But he probably Oliver Anthony probably does not think about politics nearly as deeply as
Kyle Kolinski, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. So,
when Kyle Kolinski is trying to figure out all Over Anthony's politics, It's like,
well, you're trying to figure out the politics of somebody who's probably you
know, he obviously cares about politics, or it wouldn't be in the song,
but he probably doesn't care about it nearly as much as you do.
So, oh, Sepsis is in the Facebook live chat. Hello, we
do love sepsis speaking of music and a lot of comments here, let's see
Sepsis. That's a great point. Even some of us look look at it
as more as entertainment at this time, six versus branches. Common man is
actually too busy to have an accurate opinion viewing events across the pond, our
own families and neighborhoods. We all have to get along with each other and
share physical space, regardless of our versions of imagery, gods and lords.
We don't know what people really think or do in the privacy of our authentic
selves. Great energy, Matt Live and let Live. There is music that
is known to be harmful and it's big business. Oh sorry, I missed
a comment here right before that. Hip hop music is an entire genre that
has songs that contain lyrics and content based on real events that has been proving
to be connected to harmful real life consequences and conditions and useful tool to promote
harmful behavior. M that's all. That's another whole subject. But Crystal,
our friend from Illinois in the chat room says, oh, that's a completely
different subject. Well that's okay, we can move on. Actually, but
Crystal in the chat says, I just found out my Panamanian friend passed away
from complications of lupus. She was on public assistance because of her disease.
Oh okay, I'm sorry, it's not a completely different subject. I apologize,
Crystal. No, this relates to again that I was commenting. I
don't like that part in the Oliver Anthony's song where he seems to you know,
he takes that swipe but of somebody being unwelfare. Let me start this
comment again, Crystal. I want to make sure I read the whole thing
in its entirety to honor it, and I'm sorry for your loss. By
the way, Crystal said, I just found out my Panamanian friend passed away
from complications of lupus. She was on public assistance because of her disease.
It's hard when people criticize public assistance when there are people who legitimately need it
agreed. And that's, by the way, that's why I don't like that
that one line in the song she was a young mother living with her teenage
son. I think he was seventeen or eighteen. But now he is going
to be navigating life alone. I don't even know if public assistance will help
him in any way to get his living conditions situated, or if he'll just
be thrust out there, evicted from apartment or whatever makes me sad to think
of. Absolutely. Sepsis says, negative social ideas and constructs are major music
marketing. I'd love to have. Yeah, that would be a wonderful conversation
half here in studio. Actually you should get with Jenny, and I mean,
obviously before Swarmy Fest we need to have you back in here anyway to
promote that, but I'd love to I'd love to have that conversation here in
studio. That would be very, very interesting. Sepsis says, we study
this a lot. Yeah, yeah, please if you can get because Jenny
does all the scheduling. I really want to have that conversation on the air.
That would be really, really interesting, and I'd love to hear all
of your thoughts and perspective on that. It's it is interesting too, just
because and again I guess this goes back to what I was saying about.
Oh, Sepsa says, we can come and talk about this. We have
whole seminars we do on this. Really interesting, all right, I didn't
I didn't know that. You know, the thing about art and how it
connects with you and how you choose to interpret it. There are things that
you know, I'm thinking about because now I'm thinking about lyrics and I'm thinking
about things that can be potentially negative. You know, I've been a fan
of and Sepsis mentioned earlier in the chat room too, hip hop. I
think Eric Pilcher and I have had this conversation, my favorite conservative you know,
he's a big hip hop guy, even more so than me. But
I think we've talked about this little bit. There's you know, there's a
lot of imagery and hip hop that is obviously not necessarily something you would want
to celebrate. But but again, but it's art, and it's a depiction
of someone's experience. You know, if someone comes from a background where you
know, gang related activity, whatever it is, and then that's what is
in the song. You know, again, they're they're taking something about their
own life experiences they've had and then creating art with it. And it's that
thing of art is art. So but that doesn't necessarily mean see, and
it doesn't just have to be about hip hop either, But I'll just give
I'll give a couple of examples I'll give. I'll give one about hip hop
and then a broader example about just rock music. So in hip hop,
there's a song called one of my all time favorite hip hop songs. It's
up an artist called Freeway, and the song is called what We Do.
But if you listen to the lyrics and it's it's kind of an unusual song
because it's not like a singles. There's not a hook that repeats. It
almost sounds like he freestyled the whole thing. But I'm pretty sure he didn't.
But you know, but the song's about selling drugs, and but it's
not. If I listen to the song, it's not I'm not listening to
it because I like thinking about that subject. But that's the art that he
created with his experience when he was selling drugs. So a song can have
negative subject matter or someone's negative experiences within the lyrics, But again, it's
art, so what you choose to do with that or how you choose to
feel about it is up to you as an individual, And to me,
it's really no different than see. It's funny because people who really don't like
hip hop will sometimes say, well, I don't like you know, I
don't like this violent imagery in this song, or I don't like that you
know they're talking about drugs in this song or whatever. But then if you
say, okay, well, how do you feel about, say, Life
in the fast Lane by the Eagles, right, And well, the Eagles,
that's pretty innocuous. You wouldn't even think of that as being in the
same universe as something from the gangster rap genre, right, But think about
it, think about the lyrics to you know, life in the fast Lane
br Aaron Earner. I love the Eagles growing up. Although that's one of
those songs. If I never hear it again for as long as I live,
I'm good with it because I've already heard it at one hundred thousand times.
That and Hotel California. Great song, but I hope I never hear
it again for the rest of my life anyway. No, but think about
the lyrics to Life in the fast Lane. It's all about doing drugs.
That's that's what the fast Lane is in the song. It's all about that
and and buying drugs and doing drugs, and that's literally what the song is
about. But you'll never hear someone say, you know, Life in the
fast Lane by the Eagles's softly subversive and I object to the lyrics. You
would never hear that, right, And certainly when I would hear the song
growing up, I would hear it on Rock one oh one. I never
have had an adult say to me, actually, my dad, this might
surprise some of you, because I think I think people get a I hope
he doesn't mind me saying this because he listens to the show. I don't
think he'll mind me saying this. My I think people get a certain perception
of my father based on his calls and some of his social media posts.
But you know, he's got layers and levels and he actually likes hip hop
and uh. But my dad also he never he wasn't into censoring anything really
when I was growing up, Like he didn't. He was never worried about
what I was listening to or even or or hearing in terms of you know,
like if I if I was listening to uh something that was, you
know, in the hip hop genre, and it had bad words in it.
You know, my dad, I mean, he wouldn't want me using
those words, certainly, but U but he never he never tried to censor
anything with me. He always assumed, you know, I could handle it,
and I knew better to repeat things or or do things that I heard
in a song. He was always really really cool that way. Or he
even uh or things that he would let me watch. I remember, I
have a very specific memory of when I was a kid. There was a
Robin Williams special on HBO and Robin Williams, Boy, we lost him.
We lost him too soon. I know, he was very ill. That
we things we know now that we didn't know then, that we were kept
very quiet. But such a tragic end. But I remember there was a
Robin Williams special and I remember watching it with my dad and Robin Williams.
He worked blue, you know, there was a lot of profanity in his
act and whatnot. But my dad and I watched it together and it was
not a problem. You know, my father didn't have any problem with me
hearing those words. Somebody else had a problem with it, but she didn't
say anything. The person in the room who did have a problem with it,
she just sat there knitting angrily. Oh I remember, oh, Dad,
if you're listening, Yes, I have very specific memories of a certain
individual who would, boy, I'll tell you what. She could knock out
a scar for a sweater in no time, because she would when she was
angry. She would sit there and she would knit, and the angrier she
was, the faster she would knit. And it was clearly infuriating to her
that my father and I were sitting there in the living room watching this Robin
Williams special on Tell of Vision, and Robin Williams is swearing there's a lot
all these f bombs, and my dad and I are both finding it all
very funny, and she's just sitting there knitting, and she's all angry that
we're laughing at all of this profanity. I mean, there might have been
other dynamics there that I wasn't quite clued into. I don't know, But
no, there was someone in the room who was not pleased. No,
but my dad was always really cool about not censoring stuff, you know,
he didn't mind me. I mean, don't get me wrong. I don't
think he would have wanted me consuming pornography or anything like that, which I
didn't do and you know, until later. But but no, he was
always cool that way. But Scott Robinson says in the chat room, or
how about mister Brownstone by Guns n' Roses. Oh, of course, of
course. I mean rock music is rife with drug use and alcohol abuse and
you know, so let's see, Oh wow, we're getting close to the
top of the hour. We do have a musical sweaing of music. We
have a new musical guests coming up. But these comments are interesting. I
want to look at these a little more. Sepsis and the chirem says,
there is no other genre of music that entire kind of person is encouraged to
explicit its own pain to a real world and current consequences. I only use
hip hop as an example. Oh, imagine being a radio programmer or director
that is sitting behind a desk presented with an entire genre of music that consists
of an entire type of people that commit violent crimes on each other and promote
it along with drugs in European fashion and the exploitation of women. Just imagine
if I had an entire genre of music that exploited the abuse of animals or
senior citizens. There is only one type of music that radio directors will allow
this music to be promoted, even though they are aware of its real life
consequences. But are they though? Because what I don't And again this is
a conversation we have to have in studio to really do this right. But
I don't think does your typical program director at a radio station, are they
at a music station, Are they really even stopping to think about that?
I mean, I think program directors generally have to think about the first thing
that they have to think about is what does their audience of their station want
to hear, you know, And they have to think about ratings and all
of that. I don't think. I don't think anyone's necessarily thinking about,
well, should we play this song? How is it going to affect people?
I don't think that enters into the equation. Probably, but I think
that, I mean, certainly sometimes what does enter into the equation is is
there something in the song that the audience isn't going to isn't going to like,
or that sponsors aren't going to like that can be a concern. Sometimes
radio stations make their own radio edits if there's, for example, a certain
word in a song that that the program director is concerned that might cause a
problem. Chris Rose joins us in the chat room from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Sepsa says, you make a very valuable question. We know that violence
and sexuality thrive in rock and rap. Advertisers know this, great question,
Matt interesting. Yes, well, anyway, we will have that conversation in
the future live in studio, please. I would. I would very much
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acious perception. That's pretty cool. That is metal Hotel from Nora set and
she is with us via Skype. I believe are you there? Hey?
How's it going? Hit me? Yes? Yes, you sound great.
It's always a relief whenever we have somebody from the UK when everything works out
with Skype, it's always a big relief because it doesn't always work out on
the first try. So welcome to the show. Thank you so much,
nice to meet you. Are you Matt? Is that right? I am
Matt, Yes, and you are Nori sett Am I saying it correctly.
Yeah, that's perfect. Thanks so much for inviting me. Honestly, it's
just great to be here. Yeah. No, I appreciate you joining us,
and I really like what you're doing. Jenny and I were watching earlier
today a couple of your videos and those are pretty wild, but they certainly
go with the music. And now where are you are you in? It
says on band camp You're in Manchester in the UK. Yeah, that's right.
I'm in Manchester, UK right now in my little flat beaming over to
you. It's about ten pm here in the UK. Oh okay. And
yeah, that was Metal Hotel that you just played. That's probably my wildest
track. Some people literally can't listen to it because it's is too much.
Yeah, no, I like it. It's probably the most unique thing that
we've had on the show as far as music. But no, I think
it's I think it's cool. What is your Tell me a little bit about
your approach. Do you do you record everything yourself? Do you have other
people who you work with? Oh? Yeah, thank you. Yeah.
I do everything myself from scratch. It's it's you could say I'm a control
free but actually it's it's out of necessity because I started it in lockdown in
the UK when we couldn't go anywhere in Manchester. We were locked down for
a really long time. And my job is that I write music for other
people, so I there were no musicians working, so I had no one
to write for. I had nothing going on, so I started writing for
myself instead at home, and I got into producing my own tracks, and
some of them, my early ones are pretty pretty bad, and I've just
gotten better and better. But I'm still doing these really experimental, wild things.
I guess I've got no one else to reiin me in as well because
I'm doing it all myself, So so you're going to get some pretty out
there stuff. But I do write songs as well that are a bit more
straightforward. It's just that I love to play with noise and sound and and
and try and do something new. Is in terms of your approach. Do
you when you record something, have you already written it in your mind or
are you kind of experimenting as you go? So that one that you just
heard, that's very much experimenting as I go. I guess people can probably
tell from the track, right, right. But sometimes I kind of wake
sometimes I actually dream songs, and I wake up with half a song in
my head, and I go at the piano and I do it in a
more conventional songwriting way, because that's that's me. I'm a composer, So
I love writing at the piano. I love writing tunes, but I love
really pushing myself to do something that might be like nothing I've heard before and
like nothing anyone else has heard either. And it's not necessarily a song in
that case. So that one that we just heard that was produced in quite
a weird situation because I was actually living in an airbnb, so in a
hotel of sorts for a few weeks over the summer while I was looking for
someone to live. And it was very strange, just orientating experience because you
know, I didn't have any of my things with me. I didn't know
if I was going to find a flat. I was feeling almost homeless.
I didn't have any of my recording equipment. I just had my laptop and
my phone, and I decided to just try and make music anyway in that
situation, and I made this little EP called Metal Hotel originally with that as
the first track. And they were all produced while I was kind of in
transit, living out of the suitcase, and so they're all quite low fi
literally low fied, not like the esthetic, but like the actual technology is
very much just my laptop and my phone microphone. And then when I finally
got a flat to live in, I rerecorded a couple of the vocals and
I put it all together. Yeah, so that was a story behind that
one. Now when you because you said some of your songs you do write
in a more conventional way. Do you ever run into a situation where you
write something at the piano maybe and it's you know, it's got a certain
structure to it and so forth, but then when you go to record it
you end up changing it. Does it ever end up being something completely different
from what you thought it might be when you first started to write it at
the piano, Yeah, definitely. So it's quite it's quite a process I
go through. I find it. You know, you have to start with
the creative mess and just kind of see where you go. You start with
the emotions, you start with the seeds of an idea, and you just
get it out. I like to write things down on paper. I use
music notations still or when I'm writing a song, and I get it all
out there, and then I tend to go away from it and I come
back to it and sometimes I go, oh my god, what is this
rubbish? And I have created and I change everything, and sometimes I come
back and I think, wow, yeah, okay, there's something there.
And then I start working at it. And that's where the kind of critical
part of my brain comes in, and I start to think kind of more
analytically, and I come up with a structure, and I start like working
away at the harmony in a quite a logical way, but with an electronic
track that's not really recognizable as a song. It's more like very visual process.
So I do it straight away on the computer with Ableton, which is
a software I use, and I use everything in a very visual sense,
moving around these blocks of material kind of like modular ideas, you know,
like moving things around like lego bricks or something, and I liked to I
have synesthesia, so all my sense is kind of crossover. So I think
about the way that a track kind of like tastes in my mouth and looks
and not just how it sounds, and it all kind of comes together in
this thing. And that's why my music videos are so wacky, is because
quite synesthetic. If that makes sense, we should explain for people to what
that is exactly. And if my understanding is correctly, it's when you sort
of like you you see sound for example, right if you which I,
which I sort of experience a little bit myself. I might have a very
mild form of it. Or maybe it's something that everyone does to some degree,
but you know, I can with the guitar specifically, like with the
electric guitar, certain chords to me look red and others look purple. And
but that's about the extent of it. But my understanding is there's there's some
people and it sounds like this is the case in with you. There's some
people who have who I mean, it's it's something you can actually have diagnosed
right where you you have this. It's almost like a neurological thing where you
just you see sound or you, as you said, you taste sound.
Yeah, so i'd say that a bit like you. I have it kind
of on the mildest side, but maybe a bit more than that. I
mean, I do associate colors with chords and stuff. I think everybody has
it to an extent, because I think when you say, you know that
classic example of nails down a chalkboard, everyone feels that in their mouth.
Yes, it's a it's a very visceral reaction that we have. And apparently
all babies have synesthesia, the crossing over of senses. All babies have,
oh, this crossing over of senses, which is why the world is so
overwhelming to them. And I guess I'm just a bit of a big baby
because my brain is still a little bit like that, you know, everything
everything kind of measures together sometimes. But I don't have it to the extent
that some musicians do, where they have, you know, like so called
perfect pitch, where they have such strong associations with frequencies that they can actually
just immediately identify what keya songs in just by listening. I'm not like that.
I just have more of a kind of artistic mess going on all of
the time. You know, it's like it's like you're cooking like nine different
things at the same time, right right. And then so so you're able
to obviously, so you play, you play piano, you play keyboards.
So when you go to I'm a bit of a recording nerd. So when
when you go to record, you're you're you're playing the keyboard, right,
and that's how you're making are you are you generating all of the sound from
the keyboard, including the percussion when you oh, yes, so there's a
mixture. Yeah, really great question about that. I sometimes plug the keyboard
in as a MIDI instrument, which means all the computers getting is information is
the notes that I'm playing, the pitches, but it doesn't get the actual
sound. It just gets the pitch information and tempo and things like this.
So middy is useful in that sense. So sometimes I record like I'm playing
the piano, but then I change it to a different instrument sound on the
computer. Sometimes I plug one of my synthesizers into my computer and record the
actual sound of the synthesizer through what's called an audio interface, which is something
that you can plug microphones into that's how you record sound into a laptop,
but sometimes I take it so quite often I take a sample of something which
is just like a recording of anything. It could be someone hitting a table,
it could be birdsong, it could be any kind of noise you can
think of. And I love zooming in on the wave form on my screen
and just playing around with that wave form. You can stretch it, you
can squish it up, you can cut it up into little bits and duplicate
it, and that kind of messing around with with the sound wave itself I
really enjoy. So some of my noises come from that. Some of my
drum loops are samples that I've that I've created from doing things like that,
and sometimes it's from Midi Instruments. So I'll go on the computer and I
will just use one of their synthesized drum kits that's on there, but the
metal hotel ones. That was a very weird process because I went on the
Midi instruments on the on the so the synthesized instruments on the on the computer,
and I literally used my laptop like a keyboard because I didn't have access
to any of my instruments called just in this hotel room. Oh okay,
and I used my laptop like a piano, but then I sped it up
like a crazy amount. As you can hear on that track, it's so
fast it sounds like noise. Yeah. Did you ever hear something in your
mind that you want to put into a song but then you can't figure out
how to how to make that sound? Has that ever happen to you?
Oh? Definitely? Does that happen to you? Is this is something you've
experienced? Well, I know because I I'm a bass player and I've played
in rock bands, and it's just it's nothing nearly as as unique or interesting
as what you're doing. So so I think bass players are I think bass
players are the you know, the fundamental underpinning of any band. And I
agree. I'm actually dating a bass player now, and he's changing my life
because I'm realizing that I don't put enough bass lines in any of my songs.
And now he's he's in my you know, he's sort of in my
band. Now. It's very dangerous doing that. I know we're going to
turn into get massy. It's going to be like abbat, it's going to
be it's gonna be like Fleetwood Mac They're all great. So he guys,
there you go, there you go. He adds he has all these like
improvised basslines. It's made me think about that process. But yeah, in
terms of the question you asked, sounds, yeah, I guess I would
just get my microphone out and try and record it and just put steal it.
Just steal the sound, steal the noise. Sometimes I hear something in
my head and it's it's very annoying because my job is to write music for
other people to actually compose like classical music or castral music, this kind of
thing. It's very different to my electronic stuff. Sometimes was really frustrating with
that. Sometimes is I might wake up in the morning and I have this
like symphonic world in my head and it just sounds so complex and beautiful,
like my subconscious is dreamed it up, but it's too complicated for me to
work out how to recreate it quickly enough before it disappears. And I can't
record it, I can't sing it, I can't do anything because it's just
like this this fragment in my mind and that's oh, it's like just it
slips out of my grasp because to write for an orchestra, you know,
it takes a really really long time, and you have to set out for
all the different instruments, all the different lines, you have to work up,
all the different harmonies. Oh my goodness. So that's that's the one
that drives me mad. Oh I can imagine. What do you do?
Do you score movies or what do you What do you do exactly? So
I would love to I would love to do that one day. At the
moment, I actually write operas and ballets unbelievably. Wow. Sounds kind of
crazy when I say that, because that's what I earned my living doing.
But as you might imagine, there's not always a huge living in it.
So I started the electronic music and the pop music in lockdown because all of
this just stopped. You know, there was no classical music happening because it's
all live. You need real musicians there with you to play your music.
Yeah, and that's why I got into music production. And now there's no
going back. Like I love both that, like my two children. Now
yeah, now you mentioned playing live, So do you play out a lot?
Yeah? I love gigging. It's my favorite thing. So I do
love producing the tracks. It's really satisfying, but I don't I can't.
You know what it's like when you perform. You can't replace that feeling of
having people there to share something with and getting that energy. Sometimes it's a
hard cell, you know, as soon as you've gotta work really, really
hard. But I just love it. I love performing. I love throwing
myself around on stage wearing crazy outfits. It is just the best. So
what, so what is the live show like? Because what you're doing is
so unique. So do you have do you have an actual full band and
and how do you replicate what you're doing? So I'm just starting to put
together a band. So I have my basis boyfriend now. But yeah,
very easy. But before that, I was just doing everything solo because it's
electronic, you know. I can bring my laptop along with my audio interface
which plugs into the sound mixer, and I would I would take the vocals
out of my tracks and do some of them with just live vocals, and
some of them I take some the synthesize and keyboard stuff out and do it
with live keys. And I do I throw myself around on stage a lot.
So met Hotel that one's the least that's got the fewest vocals out of
any of my tracks that I would do live. So I usually do it
as a kind of opening piece to get everyone's attention, snap them out of
whatever dream they're in, and I usually do something really wacky. So the
best one that I've done is I got this massive pink sand pit. Okay,
it's plastic and it looks like a clam shell. I don't know if
you can visualize that, but it's like two halds of a clamshell and it's
what toddlers would you as a sandpit, right, okay, or a paddling
pool or whatever you like. Actually, I have to give credit to my
ex because he was the one who spotted it and he said you should climb
out of that one day, and I was like, you know what,
You're right, I'm going to do that. And I dragged it along in
a taxi to one of my gigs this year, and I put on a
bright pink, huge tool dress. So it's like this big poofy Barbie pink
dress. Before Barbie came out, I wasn't thinking about Barbie, and I
had these PBC pink high heeled boots, big chunky heels, and I had
some pink fish nets and I had this pink visor. I always have these
visors, so I wear like really crazy big dresses and then I have these
It's like it's like what skiers were to stop themselves getting sunburned, right,
Okay, but I put that over my whole face. So I'm wearing this
get up and I climb inside the clamshell, having pressed hit the space bar
on my laptop for this track. Yeah, and I'm just I stay in
there for like a minute and a half, so everyone's just around me in
the audience, like and some of them didn't notice me getting there, you
know. Some of them were just talking and then they like look down and
they're like, what the Hell's going on going on? You know? And
I when the vocals about to start, I start opening up the clamshell and
I like sit up in it like I've just been born from it. That
was my favorite I ever did. But the thing is, the vocals in
that track a kind of metal, are kind of scary, and it was
a weird juxtaposition to have this cute little Barbie outfit and then be like kind
of almost scream whispering into the microphone. It was pretty funny. That's pretty
cool. Is there a video of that? Is that on YouTube? There
is? There is one on my YouTube account. It's a little short video
of the beginning of that. If anyone wants to watch, you can go
on my my YouTube account. And or is that that's n O double R
I SE double t E. It's one of my shorts on YouTube. Yeah,
that's one of my favorite things I've ever done. So if you want
to see that, you can. You can see that one for yourself.
Yeah, that's that's very cool. And the videos, Like I said,
Jenny and I watched a couple of your videos. Is that. I do
think that it's funny because you mentioned, you know, on stage you kind
of throw yourself around and I don't remember which video it was, but I
remember watching the video and you you know, you kind of throw yourself around
in the video. What is the process like doing those? Obviously you have
help with that, I assume, right, Or is that all you as
well? Yeah? So the one for this track Metal Hotel, that's the
latest one I did, and that was with a professional film director. But
yeah, it was kind of a collaboration because you know, I can't afford
to like employee film crews as an independent musician, and he was really really
keen to work together. So we came to kind of a compromise where we
could both make it work with this amazing team we like, you know,
I did pay, but lots of people did it as a favor because they
just really were excited to make the video. It was so kind and I
was so amazed with what he did because he basically is like a horror film
director. And you know, we were running around this old mansion in Manchester
with this amazing teenage dancer. She's been on the TV, she's been on
you know, Britain's got talent and like, she's incredible. She's called Libby
Williams and she's only sixteen years old and I really wanted her to do some
choreography in the in the video. So she's incredible. And then we had
Andy James Taylor, who's the director, and he brought like a wind machine
crew, like a lighting setup, cameras, roving cameras. It was amazing.
And I was wearing this bright red outfit with high heels and I'm really
short sighted, okay, so I look quite afraid in the video, and
I was like, wow, you're acting is amazing. You know, acting
is amazing. Nor is that? And I was like, well, it's
not acting because I was genuinely scared. I was going to fall through the
floor because I was wearing these high heels in this like rotting old mansion.
You know, I couldn't see anything and I had to like sprint up the
stay at the stairs away from this like Goblin esque dancer, and oh my
goodness, I was genuinely freaking out. So it's it's it's not acting,
it's it's real. But you know, my other videos before that, they
were all me. So I like my music. I did everything at home.
It started in the Pandemic and it continues to this day. Like I
love setting up a camera, putting on a crazy outfit and just following like
a concept, but then editing. It is so much fun because I love
doing these little like repeated clips that are quite glitchy and kind of like the
music. So all my videos on YouTube are just me, and I did
them on like zero budget, it by myself at home. So so working
with this film crew was next level. You know. Yeah, yeah,
no, that's cool. It is. It is wonderful too though, that
we live in a time where we have the technology to do things, you
know, like those YouTube videos that you can do on your own too.
That's and it's it's good that you you actually it sounds like you actually enjoy
the editing process, because I know a lot of people who say, you
know, that's their least favorite you know, people who do it d I
Y, they say that's their least favorite part is having to edit it,
you know, because at that point in the process they just want to get
it done and you got to sit there and do it. But it's good
that you enjoy it, I know, right, I mean, it's it's
it's like composing for me. It's it's like the it's like actually a creative
process. I don't know how you feel when you're like doing music, how
much you just want to be in the moment, or how much you want
to have like editorial control. I don't know what that's like for you.
As a bass player, you always feel like your pop somebody else's create a
vision or do you get your own? It would depend I've played in a
lot bands and they were all they were all different, but so it would
depend. But the thing is, I mean, when you're the bass player,
it's easy to just kind of fade into the back and be a part
of vision. So I never minded it that much, but now I loved
to. I love to be, you know, having this It's fun to
perform and to be in the moment. I love that, But I also
love being able to edit and create this narrative. And what was quite difficult
for me about being in a video directed and produced by somebody else and his
creative vision. It was although we collaborated, you know, it was a
new experience for me to not be the editor, and I had to really
trust that whatever we created it was going to be different to what I would
have made by myself, but would be exciting and different and also better than
what I could do by myself because there's this team involved. And that's the
same with music. So now I'm going to be building a band. I've
got my bassis, I'm going to have a drummer, and I've got no
idea where it's to go. You know, I've never worked with a drummer
before. I've always synthesized all my drums, and so it could be completely
different and I'm excited. You know, I've got to let go of some
of this control I've had and start collaborating more because that's why I do my
job. You know, when I'm composing for other people, I'm always collaborating
with them and with what their skills are. So it's just like bringing that
into my electronic music now. Yeah. By the way, Isaac Banks in
the chat room was asking about influences. Oh yeah, hi Isaac. So
I don't know which ones he's hearing in my music, but I guess one
of my favorite comments I've had from somebody was a gig they asked me if
I was the baby of Berk and Scrill x oh kidding that That made me
laugh, So I like that one. Yeah. I think influences a difficult
right, because I know who I listened to and who I look up to.
But actually it's not necessarily who I sound like, if that makes sense.
Yea, So maybe it do sound a bit like yourk and Skull likes
had a baby. But I listened to all kinds of things, you know.
I listened to jazz, folk, I listened to you know, like
even like thrash metal. Sometimes I'll listen to anything I've brought up on classical
music, but I've been really inspired by some artists recently, including Rena Sawayama.
Her first album called Sawayama, is just this incredible piece of work where
it doesn't sound anything like what I do, but it's just that her kind
of artistic vision and message and her humor it's something I really identify with.
So her first album particularly, I think, is just an amazing work.
The lyrics are very powerful, the music is really fun and catchy, but
also it's got this kind of edge. Yeah, So she was a big
influence on me recently by I think I sound like her, and then I
think visually, I think I have been influenced quite a lot by people like
Berk because she puts so much artistry into her performance. But I think as
a musician, one of the biggest people, one of the biggest influence on
me is Kate Bush because she, you know, she was there like writing,
performing, producing everything herself sometimes. You know, she loved to be
involved in like every aspect of the of the music. And I just love
Hounds of Love, her album. That's just something I've listened to you so
many times. It's kind of pretty close to perfection for me. Yeah,
but yeah, like I'd be really interested to know from Isaac or from anyone
else, like who they hear in my music, because people hear all different
kinds of things, you know, And I always think it's difficult to like
label what I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it is it
is It is quite unique. Is that in terms of when you when you
do play out, is it challenging to find other artists to open for or
have them open for you or whatnot? Or or do you do shows where
it's just you? Because I would imagine, because what you're doing is unique,
that that might be a challenge to find other artists who you can share
a show with. You know, it's surprising like when I started. So
I did my first gig two years ago and I opened for a band who
were friends of mine, and now I'm dating the bass player. So there
you go. Ye, and that called Silvatte. They haven't played a show
in a while, but they're very very different to me. But they just
I hadn't made the stuff yet, to be fair, you know, my
music back then was still being formulated. It was a bit more exploratory.
But I remember thinking, oh, I know what I want to do,
but I don't know where the gigs are for it. So I set up
my own gig called Fluff and it's a regular night of electronica in Manchester.
We do it every two months. We tend to platform queer artists in Manchester.
There's a big scene here for that, but it's focused on electronic music
producers who want to do their first gig, or maybe you want to try
out some new ideas and literally anything goes, you know, as long as
it sort of falls under the umbrella electronica. And so I started that because
I didn't know, like you asked, like, I had no idea where
I was going to fit in. And I started doing like Wilder and Wilder
stuff because I had this space to evolve in. And then I took Fluff
with me in a sense every time I go on stage now, I feel
like I imagine that I've got this very open minded audience and I just bring
it, bring it, you know. But but actually I have had some
really great artists to to open for recently. So I supported Anna Meredith,
who is this incredible electronic musician and composer a bit like me. She's done
both, so she's been a huge, huge influence on me as well,
because she's a classical composer who started doing electronic music and now you know she's
got banned and so she's really inspired me. So being able to open the
show for her was like a dream come true because you know, I'd kind
of grown up looking up to her, so that was amazing. And then
I'm also going to open for Harry N. Murray, who is this Japanese
artist who's on tour. I'm supporting her in October in Manchester and she is
like a sort of electronica punk metal fusion, so she's very much doing her
own thing as well. But it just works, and like I feel like,
I feel like if I if I get my So a lot of my
tracks sound very different to metal Hotel. That's my most out there. Okay,
so I don't do that in everything. It's so it's a lot,
right, So I have ones that are a bit more chill or a bit
more lighthearted. I have ones that are like just songs, just ballads,
and so I'm quite I'm quite flexible with who I'll gig with. I've done
piano gigs where I just sit and play all my piano songs the grand piano.
But yeah, so surprisingly I have been able to find artists to do
gigs with because I think there's a kind of blossoming scene in the UK for
this kind of thing, and that's maybe been partly influenced by the pandemic.
You know, maybe a lot of people started doing stuff at home and doing
kind of weird and wonderful electronic sounds. And I think also Manchester is quite
an open minded place, like you know, I've met a lot of people
here who just want to see something new. So yeah, but I haven't
I haven't done any like you know, I did. I did a couple
of music festivals. I did Blue Dot Festival last year. That's sort of
science and music festivals. That worked because I think when people go there and
they're like it's science and it's music, then when you're a sort of mad
inventor musician, which I guess you could call me that, and it kind
of fits in if you see what I'm saying now, that makes sense.
Yeah, that does make sense. It's interesting what you said about the pandemic
too, because I and I've had this conversation with a lot of musicians where
I always say, you know, obviously the pandemic was horrible, but we
have to find those silver linings where we can. And one of the silver
linings is it really did kind of force people to find new ways to create,
to be creative, and to share that with other people. You know.
Yeah, bands, bands making music online together from remote places, you
know, doing live performances where everybody's in a different place but they're all on
a zoom call together playing a song. You know, things like that.
I always say too, we're kind of lucky that thedemic happened when it did
in terms of the timing, because if it if it had happened twenty years
ago or even ten years ago, it would have been without all the technology
that we have now, it would have been that much more challenging. And
uh yeah, and also too, just as a broader concept, anytime you
can take something that's negative but make something creative out of it, then it
kind of that kind of helps. So so with the pandemically, yeah,
yeah, go ahead, sorry I interpret to you. No, it's okay.
Yeah, Like what you're saying, you take something creative out something bad,
Like do you do that with your music as well? Yeah? I
mean when when I played in bands. Yeah, some of the songs I
would write would be about traumatic experiences or you know, nothing particularly novel the
same kind of stuff that everybody goes through. But yeah, I mean just
just generally and anytime, even even not just music, Like I won't go
into the details of it, but Jenny and I quite a few years ago
we had a challenging experience with someone we lived with, and and we actually
made an entire podcast about that whole experience. There's like twenty two episodes or
something, and yeah, yeah, and it's it was a whole thing.
But but yeah, I think just generally in life anything that anytime, if
you can take something negative and make something out of it creatively, whether it's
music or a podcast or a script for a movie or whatever it is,
then you know, you you kind of you you win, really, you
know, that's that's like the ultimate victory of that experience. If you know,
whether it's someone who hurt you or just or an illness that you had
or whatever it is, if you come out on the other side of it
with something that you've created, then that's that's victory. That's truly overcoming whatever
that thing was that you went through. Yeah, that's a beautiful way of
putting it. Thank you. Yeah, I feel like. So there's a
lyric in one of my songs which is called the Half of It this song,
and it's from an EPI did called Human. The first song there's a
line which says turn arrows into flowers, and I had this like, it
sounds really cheesy out of context, but maybe it is really cheesy. But
I had this really strong image in my mind of all the things we carry
with us. I'm gonna go really deep for a sec. All the things
that we carry with us in life that are really painful, being like arrows
that have hit us and a piercing our skin, and and I kind of
we're carrying around like they're stuck in us and we can't pull them out.
And there's this bit in the song where I say, like you can't see
the iron rusting through me, So it's like maybe they're like iron hips arrowheads,
and it's like rusting into you because you can't take them out. And
I had this image of like wanting to turn them all into like roses or
flowers instead and let them just like fall away, yea, rather than like
just poisoning you. Slowly. And I think so much trauma and so much
pain and grief that we all have it kind of kind of like slowly poison
us. And I love the idea of being able to transform that into something
that can just become beautiful and then fall away. And rather than like trying
to yank it out, you know, like rather trying to pull out these
these things and open up the wounds, it's like transform them. And I
think, like you said, that's the beauty of being a creative person,
is that you give yourself permission to find that. Oh yeah, that's why
people get into a stand up comedy. I mean, you know, any
stand up comedian, we'll tell you they're they're probably the ones who who take
that path the most, and that you know, they so much of the
reason they want to make people laugh, and and especially the ones that take
experiences from their own lives and put that into their their routines is because they're
that that's how they're working through it. They're there, that's how they create
something from from whatever it is that they went through. And uh uh,
they all you know, it's it's almost become a cliche, really, but
they say, you know, the best stand up. Comedians are the ones
who who suffered the most growing up and then they you know, they grow
up to be really funny because they had to, because that's that's that's their
therapy, that's how they deal with it all. So, yes, it's
beautiful. It's such a beautiful thing to be able to do. Yeah,
yeah, love love it. We've gone really deep, right, absolutely,
absolutely, well you you you have been very generous with your time and we
appreciate it, and we're actually going to, uh, we'll let you go
in a moment, but I do want to end a segment with another one
of your songs. And I was thinking, fluff work unless you have a
different unless you have something you would rather I play. Well, I'm wondering
what you have there? Do you have for example, after what we've talked
about, I wonder if you have a quiet death there, which is yes,
huge contrast if everyone wants a downers it's like the it's like the end
of the party. So my EP that just came out called Weird Party,
I started with Metal Hotel and they ended with a Quiet Death, and it's
like there's a lot that happens in between. But if as an alternative,
if you want to give people a bit of a boost and something to like
dance too and feel great. Then whale House is probably one of my most
popular tracks because it's completely ridiculous and I made it with artificial intelligence collaboration real
wish. Yeah, So just before I go, there's this software called Prism
sample R and N, which basically was trained on my music and it imitated
my voice because what it does is it reads the visual wave forms of a
sound file. It like reads it like an image, choose up all these
images and then it produces its own wave forms in response. And honestly,
it's hilarious. What it tried to do to imitate me was was something else
called whale House, which is hilarious. Well, well, well we'll play
that one then, because I'm really curious now, But if anyone wants a
little cry, then a Quiet Death is one of my best songs, I
think, But I think I think whale House will make people laugh, so
I think maybe that's the one. We'll go with that one. I'm really
curious. Hey, by the way, since you mentioned it, are you
concerned about AI at all in terms of music or do you think it's it's
probably more of a help than a hinder answer, Yeah, sorry, go
ahead. I think a lot of people are concerned about it for good reasons
because, like any tool that humans and you know, it can be used
for multitude of purposes. And I think the issue is when it's used to
replace artists. I just don't think that's right because I think that what it's
creating is just plagiarism and it will just diminish the value of what's being made.
When it's used as an assistive or collaborative tool, I think that's when
it's fulfilling its purpose because there's a lot of mundane, difficult, repetitive things
that humans like waste our time on. So I guess that's what it's useful
for for people is to collaborate with And that's why I was happy to collaborate
with these software engineers who are working on this stuff, because I was like,
I'm going to treat this as a tool and I'm going to use it
with myself having the creative control. But what I think it needs it needs
legislating, It needs regulating. It needs to be controlled so that people don't
just plagiarize and take away people's jobs. Basically, right. I also think
that there's this thing of you know, it's an unknown We don't know how
far it can go, we don't know how much information it can gobble up.
But the most heartening thing I think that I heard about it recently was
the basically chat Gypt, which is the text based AI that lots lots of
people using as an assistive guide for writing articles, writing content, for finding
out information. It's sort of peaked as far as I can tell, because
it was trained on a version of the Internet from twenty twenty before it was
created. Now the Internet is flooded with content created by chat Chypt. It
can't be trained on the Internet as it is now because so much of it
is created by itself, if that makes sense. So it's sort of like
a loop. Oh yeah, no, I get it. It's funny too,
because I can always tell when I you know, because things show up
on my feed and you know, I'll click something that looks interesting and I
can tell it away that it was written by AI because it'll it'll just be
it'll just be strange. You know, it's something music related, you know,
about one of my favorite bands, and I click it and it's like,
oh yeah, this was not written by a human. Yeah, yeah,
no, right, it just feels like it's uncanny Valley, isn't it.
It's the uncanny value situation of like, this is imitating a human,
but it's not a human, right, And it's often just like yeah,
it just feels wrong. So I don't think it will ever replace humans.
I just think we need to regulate it. People don't lose their jobs and
we get rubbish art. Yeah yeah, or of course the worst case scenario
that AI takes over and decides that doesn't need us anymore, Ye, shuts
down the human race. Well, you know what, we can turn off
the Internet. There's something that is possible, you know there, It is
possible to switch off the Internet. So yeah, so we can always take
away its power source. That's the thing I think about. That's that's true.
There is a way to unplug it. Uh no said before we so
we'll we will go with whale house in a moment. But before we let
you go to what do people know? I'm sorry, what do they need
to know in terms of how to find you online, where to find your
music, where's the best place to go social media? Anything? You want
to make sure our listeners know about. Well, thank you so much,
Matt, Thank you so much for having me. It's been so lovely to
chat with you and such an honor to be on your show all the way
over in the in the States. So like, thank you. So I
have Spotify, I have Instagram. These are two of the ones I use
the most. I also have band Camp, which is where you can buy
my merchandise or support me directly as not as by buying my music all of
those. If you search for my name, which is n O R R
I S E T t E, then you'll find me. On Instagram,
I'm Nora's set Underscore Official. That's where I post the most interesting stuff I
think, and then YouTube as well if you want to watch my videos.
I have a new single coming out on Friday, which is a very chill
chill mix, very different to what we've heard this evening. It's from my
DJ set at Manages to International Festival last months and I've called it Imaginary Situations.
So that's coming out this Friday. If anyone wants to listen to that.
Oh yeah, So that'll be a nice relaxing one. It's got some
experimental sounds and I'm playing with lots of different ideas. I'm basically like remixing
my own music in it. So that's coming out on Friday. Yeah,
and I haven't planned an international tour yet, but one day I would love
to come to the States and do some concerts, so I'll let you know.
Yeah, please please absolutely all right, well we will, we will
let you go, and then I'm going to hit this track. But Nora
said, thank you so much. You've been very generous with your time and
apreciate it. And I really enjoyed the conversation as well, and thank you
so much for joining us. And we'll have to do this again soon.
It sounds like you've you've got a lot of new stuff coming, so we'll
have plenty to talk about again in the future, I have no doubt.
Thank you so much, Matt. It's been beautiful to talk to you,
and I hope you have a really, really lovely rest of your evening.
To everyone listening, thank you so much. All right, thank you,
all right, take care bye bye, take caret bye. All right.
Wonderful. So that was Nori sett all the way from the UK. So
let's give this a listen. I'm very curious to here this is one of
the ones I did not listen to already, so I am I am curious
to hear this. So this is whale House. We're going to give this
a listen and then well we'll come back and wrap up today's show. But
I checked this out. Whale House from Noris Sett Whalehouse, Dally Kitchen,
the Wheelhouse like whalehouse food boo, whalehouse foot both foot both the hind the
whale House on foot, bodily in the wheelhouse, Dearly kitchen, the Whitehouse,
till the Kish, in the Whitehouse, till the Kish, the Whalehouse,
Whilhouse, the can, whale House like any whale lives till they can
the Whitehouse. Do you like any whale? Do like a wheel? Do
you like any You have quite no hos Like, well, that's pretty cool.
That is whale House. That is Nora Set. And thank you again
so much to Nori Set for for joining us today. We talked for a
long time, but I really enjoyed that a lot. And uh, I
like her music. I think it's pretty cool. It's different, definitely,
Uh one of the more, if not the most unique thing we've had on
the show in terms of music and Uh, yeah, that's cool stuff.
That's a that is a fun song that did not disappoint. Uh and uh
yeah, Uh. Norisset dot com is the website n O R R I
S E T t E Nori set with an N not Morris. I saw
somebody in the chatroom kept writing Morris set. No, it's Norris set with
with an end. Very cool And if you miss any part of our conversation,
of course it'll be in the archive in just a little bit. We
do have a few minutes left in today's show. This is Matt Connerton Unleashed.
Of course, we are live from these studios of wm n H ninety
five point three FM in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast
channel six. If you're in Manchester and Hello twolve our online listeners across the
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And uh, if you would like to get in with a quick call,
we do have a few minutes left today six zero three two five zero six
zero seven six zero three two five zero six zero seven. And at the
end of the show, I will play that other song she was talking about,
a quiet death that is at the end of the album. We'll we'll
save that for the end, liar least part of it. We might not
fit the full song. And but yeah, six oz three two five O
six zo seven. The studio line is open if you want to get in
with a call. Six zero three two five zero six seven. By the
way, and I hadn't This wasn't where I had intended to go next.
But this is pretty interesting. Jenny just sent me this a few minutes ago.
This is from politico dot com. This just went up. Yeah,
this just went up. In the last hour. New Hampshire Attorney General carefully
reviewing arguments that could keep Trump off the state's ballot. It's the latest development
in a long shot effort by some Republicans used the fourteenth Amendment to prevent the
former president from appearing on the twenty twenty four ballot. And by the way,
for those of you listening online who from other parts who might not know
this, I'm sure people around here know this very well that our Republican governor
Chris Sinunu opposes Trump being the nominee, and he's been over time, he's
been increasingly more vocal about it. But he goes so far as to say
there's no chance that Trump will be the nominee. Maybe he knows something we
don't, because he's pretty confident about saying it, because the math doesn't add
up as far as Trump not being the nominee. I firmly believe that he
will be. But this is interesting. Let's look at this. So again,
this just went up. The New Hampshire Attorney General's Office is quote carefully
reviewing the legal issues involved unquote in a long shot effort by some Republicans in
the state to keep former President Donald Trump off the ballot in twenty twenty four.
The office announced today Bryant Quirky Messner, an attorney and prominent Republican who
ran on Trump's endorsement as the state's twenty twenty US Senate nominee, has publicly
questioned Trump's eligibility to run for president, citing Section three of the Fourteenth Amendment.
The section disqualifies those who have taken an oath to support the Constitution from
holding office again if they quote engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States,
or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof unquote. But other Republicans
in the state have pushed back. Chris Eager, chair of the state Republican
Party, said, quote, I don't think the effort to limit the options
for our primary voters has any legs whatsoever unquote. Now the state's top legal
and election officials are weighing in. New Hampshire Attorney General John Formella and Secretary
of State David Scanlon said in a joint statement on Tuesday, quote both the
Secretary of State's office and the Attorney General's office are aware of public discourse regarding
the potential applicability of Section three of the fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
to the upcoming presidential election cycle unquote, and they were calling out misinformation implying
that Scanlon's office had already taken a position on the issue. The state comes
after the Secretary of State's office was bombarded with calls on Monday, according to
NBC News, after conservative talk show host Charlie Kirk told listeners that New Hampshire
was trying to block Trump from the ballot. The statement they issued said quote,
neither the Secretary of State's office nor the Attorney General's office has taken any
position regarding the potential applicability of Section three. Wasn't that already in the article
Politico needs to proofread these or maybe AI wrote this and it didn't get I
don't know. I don't know why Charlie Kirk, by the way, would
be saying that, except the only reason I could think I could think of
was is maybe because our governor, our Republican governor, is so opposed to
Trump, maybe he just kind of dreamed that up in his own head and
then he goes and he goes and repeats that. But that this has been
this has been in the news recently because there have been a couple of I
think they wrote an op ed, I forget, was it in the Wall
Street Journal? Or there's a couple of conservative scholars who have constitutional scholars who
are making the argument that Trump is ineligible because of Section three of the fourteenth
Amendment. And their argument is that yes, he did engage in insurrection because
of January six, and that he and as far as giving aid and comfort
to the enemy, while he did say in that video when he came out
and said, hey, you have to go home now. He also said
things like I love you, you're great people, or whatever. I understand
why you're upset. You should be upset. And of course his comments about
pardoning some of the January sixth insurrectionists or most of them, one could argue
that is giving aid and comfort to mestic terrorists. Remember when the President of
the United States puts his hand on a Bible and swear as an oath to
uphold the Constitution and to defend the country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
So depending on your point of view, and you know, we can
argue about it. I mean my personal position, as as you know if
you're a regular listener of the show, is that, yes, the using
the term insurrection is absolutely appropriate for what happened on jan six An insurrection the
Webster's definition, is a violent uprising against a government or authority. And again
Trump's comments in that video, I do think, personally, I believe do
constitute aid and comfort to the enemy, in this case, the enemy being
the domestic terrorists who overran our capital on that day. That's my opinion.
Some people agree, some don't, But but that's where they're coming from those
who are making this argument. That's where they're coming from, including these conservative
constitutional scholars who have said, look, it's in the constitution, he's not
eligible. But I don't think it's going to be enough to keep him off
the ballot here in New Hampshire or anywhere else. And I do believe he'll
be the nominee. I absolutely, I am convinced of that. And again,
if you're a regular listener, you know that all of the Ronda Fervero
and the chat Ram from the great state of California says she agrees. And
you know, if you're a regular listener, you know all of the legal
problems that Trump is having actually I believe help him in the short run.
They help him on his path to the nomination. They will not help him
in terms of the general election, but as far as winning the nomination and
the way he's been able to successfully martyr himself to his supporters. You know,
I believe it virtually all but assures that he will be the nominee.
That's my view of it. All right, we are out of time,
by the way, if you're listening live on Tuesday, of course, coming
up next is through the stage Door hosted by the great Rob die On and
don't forget be back bright and early seven am tomorrow morning for the Morning Show
with Peter White right here on WMNH. And if you miss any part of
today's show it we'll be up in just a little bit at WNH radio dot
org and on my website Matt Connerton dot com. And thank you again so
much to Norissett, all the way from Manchester in the UK, that is,
for joining us today via Skype. Wonderful to talk to her. I
really enjoyed the conversation. You can tell how much I'm vibing with a guest
by how long I keep them on. And that was a long conversation,
so very interesting. And I really dig her music. And we're gonna close
with this. This is another one from her album Weird Party. This is
called a Quiet Death and she did warn us this one's a little bit of
a downer, but that's the end of the show. It's a Quiet Death
from Norissette to close out today's Matt Connerton Unleashed. And that's it for us
for now. I will talk at y'all a little bit later. By everybody,
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