So, Kieren, what are we going on? We have some great stuff
going on. Well, I think you would know. I've been living in
a dream. You've been living in a dream, and the dream is getting
better and better because we have just begun a fantastic, new, very exciting
partnership. A partnership, A partnership who with with the Edgar Casey Aar.
Oh my gosh. You know what that means. It means a lot.
It is a huge, huge deal. A partnership with the organization that was
established by the father of metaphysics, This father of metaphysics, who now has
a facility here in Virginia Beach, very close to where we live, I
know. And so we've actually made a partnership with it. We have You
know, you never know where life is going to take you, I like
Kalamazoo or like on some incredible journeys of discovery and awakening through some fantastic conversations.
That sounds amazing, it is. So what does that mean for the
audience? Oh gosh, it means that not only do they get to hear
from us truly you gonna say yours, truly, ours truly? How do
you say that when it's more than one person. Use use from used to
leads guys to lead, but they get to hear from some bonafide certified experts
who are blah blah blah blah. Really, yes, no, I know,
I had no idea we had that kind of cloud. Well, you
know that's how I rolled. That's how I'm eye rolling right now. Yeah,
you are. But you know what really excites me the most about it,
but we have an opportunity to actually interview these people in person on stage
at the Edgar Casey's AARI. I know. So not only are we getting
this great information from these fantastic people, but we're also getting the tremendous energy
that is all over that location. Absolutely, and in the future, we're
going to give more information as to how you could attend. If you are
in the area, you could come attend the tapings that we do at the
Edgar Casey AARI. More information to come on that. When does this partnership
start care it starts now, starts now, it starts now? Wow?
What do you read It starts now? Well, okay, it started about
a week ago, but wow, but the edited version starts now. Cool.
Well, that means that what we're so for the first episode of this
partnership, who we have We are so fortunate we actually got to speak to
the CEO of the edgur Caacyari, Reverend doctor Nicole Charles, who is gosh,
I don't know. She's got like two or three master's degrees and just
an incredible, incredible woman, and she's making some fantastic changes at the AI.
Yeah. The best thing about it, and people can hear it on
the interview. The best thing is that she is actually keeping holding on to
the legacy Edgar Casey teachings and everything there is, the energy, the spirit
of the Eggcacyar, but also opening the doors wide open to provide this information
to a diverse and open demographic that perhaps isn't aware of the AAR as much
as some of the folks that have following along for a long time. She
really wants everyone to get this information and to have access to all of the
incredible readings and so much more that the AI provides. Yeah. I remember
walking into the AAR for the first time after all the renovations had taken over,
and just going wan such a breath of fresh air. But you can
still feel that that, like you said, that legacy you know, it's
been there, it's solid, it's got this incredible foundation totally, and now
she's just kind of tweaking it and making it just more accessible. Yeah,
it's it's fantastic. Hey, you know what, why don't we let her
tell us about it? That's a good ada. Without further ado, here
we are presenting to you our very first interview from the Edgar Casey Are with
the Reverend doctor Nicole Charles. My name is Will and I'm Garous, and
unlike mulderin Scully, we both want to believe. So we've embarked in a
journey of discovery. We've talked to people deeply entrenched the spiritual and metaphysical world.
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a coven
of witches and wait, you joined a coven? Yep, all in the
interest of finding something, anything that will prove that there's something beyond this physical,
three dimensional world we all live in. This is the skeptic metaphysicians.
Welcome to some extraordinary conversations. We'll go on voyages of discovery, exploring everything
from the incredible readings of Edgar Casey to the metaphysical modalities being practiced today.
We are your hosts, Karen and Will, and we are thrilled to have
you join us on these journeys of exploration and awakening. Today, we are
honored and privileged to have none other than the CEO, the Edgar Caseyari here
to have a chat us, Reverend Doctor Nicole Charles. Hello, mister Rodrick,
I know you got her. Makes me nervous luck to live up to,
Doctor Charles. You have brought incredible, incredible amounts of change to the
organization and we're going to get that in a few minutes. But before we
do that, let's just get to the basic topic of it. What exactly
is the Aggarcasey Aar Eggar Shacy's AARI is an acronym for the Association for Research
and Enlightenment. And you know it sounds like this big name, but what
it really means is that if you research your life, if you study it,
if you look at it honestly and a perspective of I can't keep doing
the same things over and over, you will become enlightened or aware. And
so that is the research research in my life so that I can do better
and be better. And by doing that I begin to get a closer draw
to God, the divine, creative forces, divine forces, whatever you choose
to call it, that you become a better human being on earth so you
can serve others. I feel so called out. Yeah, well, you
know, well, before we get into the meat of the Edgar Casey AIRI,
I want to know what drew you to this type of work. I
think what I know for a fact to me is that within what they call
new thought or or theologies of new thought, you're coming from some incredible writers
of Emma Curtis Hopkins, the Fillmore's, Ernest Holmes, and then you have
Casey, who took it I would say a few steps deeper because he did
the readings. But he did readings not as what we know always as the
fortune teller. He did it from a place of everything that I'm coming to
you as has a spiritual component to it. And that beauty that I saw
that there's it resonated with me because that's all there is to me, and
there is no separation, and the only thing that separates. So what we
see is the bad in the world is really the human condition not rising to
the best of themselves and hurting each other. So then in a nutshell,
this is a place to come in order to look into your cell and better
yourself. You have all the resources you need in this one location. I
say we did. I would second that because we've actually spent a lot of
time at the AAR and it's become a second So I want to make sure
that we focus and put a spotlight on some of these amazing things and ways
that you can help yourself to attain this awakening or closeness with the divine or
whatever you want to call. Let's talk about some of the changes that you
brought. You are bringing the are into the future by instilling certain changes of
thought, even to the point of doing renovations to the buildings it themselves.
What kind of changes have you put in place in the past year before?
And I want to be very clear, before any change can ever occur,
you need to know where you came from, right, So the mission of
the organization state, the purpose of the organization state, and that's Casey's work
and the upholding to bring forth profound ching that then now leads us into our
program. So we have things such as we had ancient mysteries, we have
psychic development. We have what we'd call the legacy, and that stays in
place. The changes are in addition to we want to look at how do
we support a newer generation. And so that's really been my cause is how
do we move us from what they know that the other generation that has been
supported for years, but how do I speak to a younger generation? Really
looking at millennials and generation And the reason being is because they're the ones now
coming into there. Where am I? Who am I? Why am I
doing what I'm doing? And if we understand human development, there's always cycles
that we fall under, and so my goal is to bring us into community
programs that support today. We know that we have mental health issues due to
this pandemic post pandemic world, and that post pandemic world has brought in isolation,
lack of community, high anxiety amongst many, but isolation, and so
we wanted to improve programs that can support the whole person, still in a
holistic way, but to do it in a very different way that speaks to
today's time. So some of the partnerships are very proud to say we've moved
out from this closed up into really reaching out and meeting our neighbors such as
Norfolk State University working with some of the faculty helping us develop our dance and
yoga studio called Rio Yoga, which is a a meditative word that kind of
is part of the Casey meditation stance of our own and just instead of saying,
oh, so that's a beautiful partnership that we'll be coming into. We
then have the Cassia Tarcia Center, which really is a deep delve into spiritual
emotional healing. And it's a deep dive, not just surface. It's more
why do I keep repeating the patterns of trauma? What do I need to
let go of? And why can't I? Why do I want these things
but I can't be these And so this is the Charsison is almost a year's
long program with various levels in it. And then we have the Casey Institute
of Culinary Medicine. Let food be thy Medicine, And so this is really
a practical approach in the alkaline way of eating and foods of today. We
know that in some of Casey's work he talks about mutton tallow. We're not
probably focused on that, but we're focusing I was ready for us but if
you will study the readings, you'll find that it really does work. Like
if you have congestion of the chest, you put it on and it works.
But we're looking at what people can afford today in incomes and as our
older ones, you know, kind of move to that I need to save
my money. How can we provide sources and services for them too? Well,
I think you're it's got to be hard balancing the legacy with the new
and I think you're doing a wonderful job at that. Part of bringing in
the new membership, the new faces is creating a new face physically here and
we're sitting in this beauty on this beautiful stage. You've redone this area.
It looks gorgeous. I want to hear a little bit more about the rest
of the campus. I've heard about the labyrinth. Tell me a little bit
about that. Well, imagine a me and our lives are usually a made
and we have problems, and we keep hitting these walls and we can't get
out. The labyrinth is kind of like your mind. You go in with
some challenges, but there's always a way to get out even if you hit
these. So it's more of a contemplative walk around to come out to the
other side, and some people you'll notice they might walk fast and some go
slow. But the thing is, it's your journey's walk. But just know
that you will get out of this maze of life. So that's a place
that a lot of people like to visit. If you're standing at the maze,
if you look up. We have an incredible restaurant known as Gray's Restaurant,
local seasonal by a wonderful chef, Deli, and her food is really
good. We then have the SPA, which holds all the Casey remedies and
the techniques, which is more of an osteopathic way of looking at things,
but also with his own way of really dealing with the whole spirit, mind,
body, incorporating into the tun So our teachers are trained because we also
have the Casey Raley School of Massage. Very proud say that a lot of
our practitioners who work at the SPA incorporate what they learn and then they move
over the things that we're talking about. Some of the transformative change of the
organization is that that SPA the goal is to move it to a clinic,
which was Casey's first purpose. This is to support our veteran This is to
support people with their insurance and so it's in addition to the SPA stays.
We will still have our practitioners of massage, but we would like to bring
in nutritionness, osteopath dietitians of a holistic grounding and really expand our services to
support more of the community. So that is something we're looking for to and
like I stated, the teachings of the school really supports that, and we're
trying to see how we can truly become more of our neighbor's keeper than just
the people next door. So you can keep me at the SPA. I've
heard that the training is some of the best in the country. I've never
been to it before the country, so I'm proud of that. Yeah,
you should be. You should be. And Karen will be hanging out the
spot. I will be hanging out at the restaurant waiting for Carrie after rough
One of my favorite places in the entire campus is the meditation guard. It
is one of the most serene places and yet not quiet because you have a
babbling brook. I only have a beautiful bamboo and it is stellar. Can
anyone just come and go and meditate at this guard anyone can come on our
campus. We welcome all right now you're sitting or we are sitting in the
visitors center, and we welcome everyone to just come by here. It is
not just for those who know, but for those who have questions. And
so we give you the space in the gardens to relax and enjoy and to
hear yourself your own voice, but also to experience something that some of us
aren't doing anymore, which is just what is this thing called peace? And
so we hope that we can bring that to our communities and just give them
a little taste piece. Our gardens are small, but they emanate such stepth
and grandness that people don't realize that you just need a little place to find
home. That's wonderful. And you have so many wonderful things here. And
I know there is a big draw, a worldwide draw that you have,
which is your library. What is so special about the library here? The
are the Ares Library proud to say is the second largest in the world,
second to the Vatican of metaphysical and out of print spiritual books. So the
plethora of metaphysics ranges from astrology to reincarnation on one's spiritual development. So a
lot of the books we do have some contemporary, but a lot of them
is out of print and beautiful ways to see how there's a continuum in life.
Also here the biggest draw is you are able to sit there and read
the readings of Casey. See the couch where the readings were done at.
A lot of people come in and literally go through the logs or the circulating
file, and the circulating files is more of the subject matter where you would
pick, you would seek to find what do you specifically want, and then
we have files specifically addressing those areas of interest. And that's incredible. I've
looked at those files before and it's that there's diabetes, there's like crew that
any kind of malady. It seems like you can find a Casey remedy for
those files. It's just incredible, correct, I mean, And that's the
thing when people think about change. But just like Casey's readings are of that
time, we're still dealing with some of these health issues. Yeah. Right,
So it's like yes, Yesterday still speaks today, but it's finding how
do we understand it because it isn't a language that is of that time,
It's not sometimes you'll see the the the thou but we call suit we'll call
more of an older English than the contemporary, so we do. Sometimes you'll
find a split between some of the work what we call the Egger Casey Reading
ECR, and then you have the CCL, which is Casey contemporary Language,
which is more of a flowing language of today. That's the translation. Those
are the ones that yeah, uh, but it really is. It is
like the epitome of a rabbit hole. You go into that library and you
can find yourself lost for hours looking at every imaginable type of metaphysical, spiritual,
and even some to the paranormal side of things as well. Yeah,
you've got ufo suf and there's all kinds of things in there. It literally
is an all day affair for me every time I come. So I need
to keep myself out there might as possible. But that's and that's an endemic
of what you are doing here. It is a place for everyone, to
your point, but each person is called to a different thing. Yes,
some people might be called to the library, some people might be called to
meditation. Guard people want be called to the restaurant or the spa, or
you have an incredible bookstore that you have completely renovated here. That is another
rabbit hole that I get trapped in all the time. What kind of things
can you find there? Oh, the bookstore, the gem We sell the
gems of crystals and gemstone. But you can also find the Kcy remedies of
the bar products there, which is very beautiful, which is the original.
Is the only approved retailer that we utilize for the Kcy products, which is
really beautiful. Matter of fact, I got really sick and one of the
staff member bought one of the remedies to me. It was the tallow and
I was suffering with severe respiratory infection and I put it on wrapped up.
It's kind of like Fix times twenty, but it doesn't have that eucalyptum in.
It has just ascent. But I would say that it really does help
or a lot of us as we get younger, our knees bother us that
upho rub is the best thing and I use it constantly, whether it's sciatica
pain or just that feeling of tightness you have just rubbed on. So there's
a lot of things that are natural remedies and medicines that you feel empowered.
It's not like it's going to give you that adverse effect because it's food.
It's the food that's medicine of the remedy product. Right, every time I
go, I buy a pendulum, he pendulum in there to buy anything,
and this accent is this what I'm supposed to get at this time? And
watch what happened, And all right, we're gonna we can retire and have
like a book and pendulum stock as if you did another excuse to get more
pendulum, doctor Charles, thank you for that. We're bringing in some more.
So find a new one. Right. The cool thing is that whether
you are an avid metaphysician or brand new just questioning things, there is everything
for anyone here at whatever level you're at. And a lot of people don't
realize that you are so open and so welcoming to all fates, all ages,
all kinds of people. And I think it's important to really focus on
that because it's an incredible resource that you have right here in Virginia Beach that's
accessible to everybody, everybody. And because it's not religion, it's not region,
it's spirituality, and it's a big difference. I think if we look
at what religion is, and this is what I say. Religion is someone
else's perspective. Spirituality is your own, and it's learning to look at what
you need, not taking God out, not taking what your belief is,
whether it's Jesus, whether it's buddh whether it's it's really finding your path.
And your path is yours alone. It is it's your place with your relationship.
But for me, it is no matter what this walk I walk,
I'm not alone. And we hope that the Aggra cases Aari supports people in
their personal journey. It is a personal journey. One of the things I
like about it when we talk about it being for everyone, you have so
many events. We were at an affair it was like it like a month
ago. We bought our daughter, she just turned thirteen, and she loves
it. I mean, everyone is so happy and joyful and welcoming, and
there's little things to buy and you can get readings done. Those fares are
just incredible. My body spirit bears. Yes, we open that. That's
a huge event. It's vendors from all over the Hampton Roads area come in
and you know they sell their gifts and their brands around. So it's like
a big street fair, but it's under the aar and it's always within the
little what we call the metaphysical realm. So from crystals to the same thing,
some things that our store sells. But also you have some nice artisians
who are just doing their own thing. Yeah. And you also you have
guest speakers come and there are hurdle guest speakers in different areas of the building.
You can experience a lot of things. We can had my eyes read.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's incredible stuff talking about that and learning
about yourself and experiencing different modalities and things like that your events, and diving
deeper into the events you your events. You bring in guest speakers all the
time, not just in my Body Spirit expos but you also have guest speakers
that come and do lectures and practical conferences, trainings. Yeah, talk to
us about some of the things that you are bringing here. Next. Oh
my goodness, I wish I had zaire. We've planned out twenty four.
She's moving into twenty five already. Wow. So we have from hypnotherapy.
We have a full training that is an accredited training and a lot of people,
you know, when they think of hypnotherapy. They think about the clock
ticking or people clucking like a chicken. But the reality is we can also
use hypnotherapy for ourselves. We have it's behavior chain and it's just a form
of behavior change. It's like the stop spinning of the wheel and to actually
get off and be like, oh I did the run. Now let me
move into it, let me really run in life, you know. So
we have from hypnotherapy psychic development, which is really something I always make a
joke about. We act like we don't know, but we know, so
like, you know, I knew I should have married her, but I
also knew I shouldn't have been with him, you know. So there's all
these things we sometimes don't even realize in life what we do and patterns we
hold from crystals classes, the little summer class in the summer, we have
free programs from hula hooping to yoga right there on the labyrinth, and that's
what we open up to the community, and that is free and dancing.
Hula hooping is a form of meditation. Is right when you get into that
move, it's the horrible shula hooper. This is not for this is not
for people who know. We have literally futures someone who just does this and
this is it's like kind of bringing joy to a community, building community,
engaging with new people. You didn't now It's really more than just hula hooping.
It's really that whole circle is bringing the oneness under one within the labyrinth
of a circle. And we're standing around this circle, but we're building the
oneness of all. And that energy of joy is so powerful when you're there
and you're hoo and you're laughing because I suck at it, so it will
fall down and people are laughing at me, but it's raised the energy.
You probably at me, but i'd be laughing to say, technically with me.
But I just I love that. I just think that's so fantastic.
Yeah, it just again I'm being a dead horse, but just shows you
what you said. It's community. It's it's become an experience. Be part
of the community. Be part of a community that is awakening, who is
nurturing, who is supportive, and who is very diverse. This is the
best thing about it. You no matter who you are, you are welcome
here. That is and that is one of the things that you brought with
you to the New Edgarcation. Right, I'll plaud you on it. Well,
thank you, But I I think I brought it. But I think
it was always here because Casey talks about it in his one ning, right,
and just so it wasn't like it just basically everything has its ebb and
flow, and we get used to things and we just kind of move in
it because we're used to it, so it doesn't shift. But there's going
to be always a rumbling because life shakes up thing. The earthquakes is really
sometimes our own and so sometimes there was a rumbling and then like there's now
a new shift and I'll have my time, and then there's another shift,
and so the whole thing is just kind of moving. It's kind of like
just walking through life a little bit, you know, And that's kind of
how I see the ar It's just like it's going through it. It's next
shift, and then we settle in it, we get used to it,
then we move into another shift. I can do as much as I can
do. Every leader has their time, and you know there'll be another ebb
and flow because there'll be a new generation that it has to be spoken to.
They talk about divine timing, right. Everything happened in the exact moment
it's supposed to and it feels like this is the right time for the right
thing, I think. So I think it's quite beautiful and delicious. I
love the shift, and I love what you're doing. And one of the
things that I was very privileged to experience was this past summer at one minute,
Oh my gosh, it was amazing. What was the inspiration behind that?
As a minister, my thing is to uplift community, and I don't
I wanted to bring a diverse body because I want people to see that it's
all one. I mean, I really stand in that and that and even
though our society doesn't always mirror that, I want to say we are one.
So these diverse these these ministers still under the New Thought what is called
new Thought theology, which is like we had Bishop Carlton Peers and who just
passed was the Soul, and Bishop Jack Vomar and so many more. The
thing was to have all these different schools of thought. But then when you
got to hear it, everyone was lifting everyone up, you know. And
it was so such a warm community that it brought people from so far from
Connecticut. We had somebody drive from Connecticut because they heard about it. It
was amazing. We had people from Delaware and just the fact that people came
from far was saying the need for people to be inspired, and not from
the typical religiosity, but from I belonged, just because it was the love.
There was a lot of love there that day. It was warm,
it was cute. We were playing and joking. And when I look back
at it, the laughter that we saw in the audience was or just the
smiles. It was just something and people are still talking about it like you
were. Absolutely it was a powerful, powerful event. Wait for the next
one who can't be there? I can't wait. Yeah, but it's again
a testament to what you're ryan tow to Edgucacy are. We talked about coming,
experiencing the ARI for yourself, getting to know all the different facets of
who you are and who Edgar Casey was, and all the things that the
Erucacy ARI offers in this path to self discovery. You can actually someone can
become more involved with the ARI once you come and you feel that you're home.
What are some of the benefits of membership. Some of the the benefits
is that you are part of a community, a very international community. A
lot of people don't know that we are an international organization, and I think
that today people are so hesitant of joining anything, and so my thing is
to say it's not so much as a membership, though it is, but
really it's a way of expanding your community. So you'll get like serious discounts
at the spa, discounts at the bookstore, a discount of becoming a member.
That there's a membership price for our conferences in training is that you pay
much less on A lot of people don't also know that we do international tours.
We travel around the world. From this came back from Spain, Portugal,
in France. The next one is Ireland that we're doing that's upcoming,
and then we always do Egypt every October November. So there's this humongous thing
of expanding your network. Learning the Tribe was basically through the Casey Lynn,
so it's very metaphysical of his reading, but you're getting to see how another
culture lives and how they breathe in the world, and how they add that
and really what makes up all work, not what makes up this radius that
you know, it's wonderful. And then we're kind of running low on time,
But before we go, I just still want to ask you about your
educational complexes. Oh, Like I was tarying earlier about the SPA, we
have the Casey Riley School of Massage. The school is very different is that
it is under mister Riley and Edgar Casey. So there's this fusion of osteopathy
and of Casey's knowledge of basically medium health, and so it's this fusion of
the two. The modalities are strong. They're learning the holistic in its fullest
sense. So it is before you touch, create no harm. It is
bringing spirit into the awareness and then the mental that there's really a balance we're
doing. We're not trying to you know, people say this person is wrong
or this person is broken. No one is broken. It's just an imbalance
of what you know it to be. Even if it does and to look
what we think of as normal, it's just an imbalance. And so it's
kind of getting back to that unity and the unity of my body and soul.
And that's really what we're trying to do and that we've done for years
at the Casey Riley The Blade. Then we have Atlantic University, which is
an online school, online graduate program in mindfulness studies and the second is in
transpersonal psychology, which is really looking at the south. And those are two
graduate programs. A Masterstree program. So much, it is so much and
one thing that we haven't touched on that I want to make sure we do
before we go. The Aggri Casey Foundation. Yeah, it is a you
have to make a reservation, but if you do, you have access to
all kinds of artifacts and artwork that isn't available to the public for the most
correct. It's a tour. You have to request it and it does take
time because there's a clearance and we want to make sure you going there touching.
We have a white gloves you know, these are the original Casey reading.
Wow, we are looking at changing how that moves because we want to
make sure the more Eric gets you know, curiation happened. Correct. So
the eger Casey Foundation is really what upholds the research, which is his readings.
And we have some incredible art pieces from various artists who have done their
work with their interpretation of Casey or their inspiration under meditation and so you can
see some of their workst We could talk to you forever and they see it
a lot. But truly, you have bought a wealth of change that has
been so amazing to the organity and we're looking forward to seeing the space grow
and become more rewarding as time provice. So someone wanted to become a member
or find out more information about the aar E, what's the best place go?
If they're not here yet, you can go right online. It'says membership.
They can also call our Member services department can take their information. We
process things on the phone. There's if you call, we will support you
and that's why we're member services. So we hope that you do join us.
We hope that you do choose to be a part of this community.
I think they'll be glad they did. But the first step just come.
Just come visit experience if you and even if you can't come, come to
one of the programs that we do hybrid. You just don't have to be
here at the conference. We would love to have you. It's an incredible
community, but we do hybrid program so you will find you could do it
here or you can be in the comfort of your hole and still do a
program. I just want to do a plug. Please come to aggricasey dot
org. Slash even and our yearly thing is we're also going to be new
branding, so you'll get to see that. It's just a new website,
just a freshening. But hey, fole, come, just come whichever way
you can. I come to the SPA. Okay, that's where I'll we
do couples of massage. Okay, see there you go, and then we
can eat after. I'm good, Okay, I'm here for it. Well,
thank you so much, doctor Charles. This has just been wonderful conversation.
I can't wait to kind of really get out there and explore the AI
a little bit more. Thank you. So we had a great time,
and a huge thank you to you. Yes, you the person that hit
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us and it might just change someone's life for the better. Well that's all
for now, but we'll see you on the next episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician.
Until then, take care