WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:07.400 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:14.119 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat z 3 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:19.120 R two SAD and iHeartRadio. Steve Yet be good afternoon, everybody. Welcome 4 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:21.719 to Eye on the Ball. You're on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, 5 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:26.320 He's Jay got e with us today. Welcome to the show. Uh 6 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and I got nothing, no jerk, you get artist show like that. 7 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:37.960 I'm joking. Hold on, I got a couple. Oh no, though 8 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:41.079 you missed. You missed some things today. I did, you know, 9 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:44.799 Steve, you know, it's just there's so much going on and this news 10 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:47.320 button. I didn't. I was. I mean, I was busy all 11 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:50.920 morning and then I got here and You're like there was a press conference, 12 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.039 and I'm like, you're right, there was. It was. It was 13 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:56.039 kind of an eventful US time. You met with us today, about a 14 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:59.560 half hour after it was scheduled at two o'clock, went about for fifteen minutes 15 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:03.679 just about the games. I asked some one question just about you know, 16 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:04.920 back in the day, in the good old days, that we covered the 17 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:11.120 teams with loot this is how it used to be. Three consecutive games or 18 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.680 a lot of games against the heavyweights or near heavyweights, to see what you 19 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:19.560 are made of, to get you ready for what's going to happen down the 20 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:22.959 road. Uh. And and here he is he agreed. I mean this, 21 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.200 this will tell them where he needs to improve on. Well. And 22 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:29.920 then and that's again as you talk about you know when when lut would do 23 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:33.079 that, you know when you got to conference play, you know, with 24 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:34.680 Loot's teams, you felt like you had a pretty good idea. Right, 25 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:38.959 they're pretty good or they weren't, right, and they were usually pretty good 26 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.719 right. Well, and don't don't forget uh this this not this game, 27 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.640 but the next game. And Loot's time was the disaster game. Yeah, 28 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:49.959 they lost it every year the game kids just wanted to get the hell out 29 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.159 of town. We don't care. We played with will come back and figure 30 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:59.680 it out? How right? I just say every every December because they had 31 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:01.439 to get Remember, they had a certain time. If they didn't get to 32 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:04.599 get back in time, they were not going to play the next game. 33 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.879 Right, So that was the story as well, but it was it was 34 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:12.000 a major, major number in the bad side. Right, it was a 35 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.360 big deal. I mean it was I mean it was a thing. You 36 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.879 know, the fans knew, Okay, here comes this game that we always 37 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.400 lose. Then they would lose against anybody. It couldn't be. It didn't 38 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.639 matter who, right, it didn't matter who was the guy. I just 39 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:25.560 wanted to get the hell out of town and played like it too. Yeah, 40 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:30.039 but here we are. It's a three it's a huge three games scheduled. 41 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:32.360 I said, when you made this up, did you have this in 42 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:37.000 mind where it would have been boom boom boom. Yeah, and not easy 43 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:38.039 guys, And he said, yeah, you know, kind of get ready 44 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.120 for it. It's it's better off. And Sean didn't do this, that's 45 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:46.120 for sure. Much less any And who's this tougher them? Looking at Alabama 46 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:51.960 schedule. A week ago Saturday they played they play Purdue number four at the 47 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:57.840 time. Then this last Saturday, number eight Crayton got beat and got beat 48 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.680 again, both close games. And then now coming up Wednesday, they got 49 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:05.199 number four Arizona. Yeah, four and eight and a four. You know, 50 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.159 their stretching games. I love this. I love this because you know 51 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:10.680 there's gonna be a lot of fans up in PRIs. It's a late night 52 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:14.560 game, so a lot of fans from here are gonna be traveling up there. 53 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:17.479 And then the uay alumm base up there is very big. So it 54 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:20.960 should be a lot of fun and it's gonna be a late late night but 55 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.680 this is what college basketball should be about. Yeah, and again, you 56 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:25.960 know, you know, you look, you look at the Alabama record, 57 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.280 they're six and four. But this is not a cheap schedule. No. 58 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:31.680 They opened their you know, they opened the season with an exhibition against wake 59 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:36.120 Forest, lost ale and go down. Okay, okay, So then they 60 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.039 go Morehead State beat the hell out of them, Indiana State beat the hell 61 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:42.159 out of them, South Alabama beat the hell out of them, Mercer beat 62 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:45.360 the hell out of them. Then they played Ohio State, got beat they 63 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:51.879 were this was a neutral court game. Uh the it was. I guess 64 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.439 it was an event because then they played Oregon. Uh the next day beat 65 00:03:55.520 --> 00:04:00.599 Oregon ninety nine ninety one. Then they went and played Clemson and the acc 66 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.719 SEC Challenge lost that. Arkansas State beat them, then Purdue crighton. Now 67 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:10.080 Arizona, I mean that's not that's that's a tough go from there, very 68 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.759 much so. But but at least you know what you need to get to 69 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:17.639 and guess what Arizona. Arizona should be able to win the PAC twelve, 70 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:21.680 right, at least we think so, you thinkody else. But the PAC 71 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:26.480 twelve is not what they're guiding for. They're gunning for. It's the Purdues 72 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:30.399 of the world, the Kansas of the world, the Houston's of the world, 73 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:34.279 because that's how they're gauged. And about the Bama game, anybody needs 74 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:38.759 to is there history with Bama. There is a little little bit back in 75 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:43.920 the day, well the last the last game that I covered as the sports 76 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.680 writer, they lost ballop Bama Long Beach and Luke got mad at me for 77 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:50.399 ten years. Well Long Beach State. They were in Long Beach there at 78 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:55.399 Long Beach. Right, it's the game that that Brian Williams did not show 79 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:59.519 up to play or anybody. Nobody showed up played that day. Robert Ory 80 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:02.920 just brush their skull. But there is a history with the coach. Yeah, 81 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:08.519 people need to remember the coach was at Buffalo, yep. And he 82 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:14.079 after he won that game or game or two, greg Byurn went and got 83 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.399 him. Yeah, and as he should have. So yeah, so you 84 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:18.560 know, again, like you said, these are fun. Yeah, I'll 85 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:20.959 tell you what I was just I don't know why this came to my brain, 86 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:28.279 but what I miss is that game that they would play like this. 87 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:32.040 But during the conference season they would play as US January. There would be 88 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:38.160 a game in January February on a Saturday. I remember they played Illinois one 89 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.079 time they played I think it was they played a bunch of teams, you 90 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:46.920 know, during that they play a su on a Wednesday or Thursday, and 91 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:51.120 then they used that Saturday to play a game against against somebody, I think 92 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:55.680 Illinois. They had a home and home with Illinois that during the time that 93 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.360 I was covering the team. Well, they played Kansas, who we remember 94 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:00.759 the Kansas candy gate, right, and then they played the year before once 95 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.160 they're getting crushed and Salim had that great game in the second half and crushed 96 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:10.319 me at at at Camp at Kansas. So no, they but the question 97 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:12.680 was, look, what are you doing. You don't need to do this 98 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.079 in the middle of the country. He would, And I thought it was 99 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:18.160 a good thing because it really it really raised their level of play. And 100 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:21.120 again as we you know, as we talked, you know, we talked 101 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:25.639 to Josh passed. We've talked to players. They get excited for those games 102 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.600 they're not thinking of. You know, I'd rather have the weekend off than 103 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.720 play short North Carolina, you know in the middle of the conference. They'd 104 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.399 rather play those games. You know. Let me ask you something, because 105 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:39.000 we talk about Ludo, and we talked about Dick Tomy. We had a 106 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:44.800 call from was it Vic somebody I can't remember. Uh, talked about Dick 107 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.600 about yes yesterday and do you do you and he's a friend of yours. 108 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:51.319 I covered him. I was in as close as to him as you were. 109 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:57.600 Uh. Is there a sense of revisionist history with him? They're absolutely 110 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:02.199 as fans forget how crappy they him that plus how good he and how good 111 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:08.399 he actually I think they think about it that he did better than what happened. 112 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:11.279 Well, does that make sense? It makes sense? And it makes 113 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:15.360 sense. I think from the standpoint that they feel better about what he did 114 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.879 because of what followed, correct right? Correct now that they think, you 115 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:23.399 know, I wish we would have had this. Yeah, you know, 116 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:27.319 we we were doing okay, we we kind of messed it up, you 117 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:30.480 know, and and the problem and look had and somebody had it had not 118 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:35.000 been John mcavic, and it had been somebody who really who elevated the program 119 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:39.680 instead of taking it into the toilet. I think people have fell out him. 120 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.680 They you know, if somebody come in and take it what Dick had 121 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:46.759 done and then improved on that going forward, and we didn't have that those 122 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:51.079 dark ages of of of uh, of John mcavick and then later Kevin Sumone, 123 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:56.279 I think people would think of Dick's time differently. It wouldn't be so 124 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:59.199 romantic to that. Yeah, right, I think that's a great word because 125 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:05.279 looking back over the last twenty two years or three years, that people miss 126 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:11.519 those days because of even if because the mediocre came up a lot, he'd 127 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:15.800 have his years. He had, he had some good you know, seven 128 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:20.319 and four years where he'd go to a bowl game or whatever, but he 129 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:24.600 only had two great years. Right right when they said this yesterday to us, 130 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:26.199 I'm thinking, here we go kind of again, not again, but 131 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:30.600 you know what I'm saying, here's a guy who who's speaking highly of him. 132 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.840 But you know, he had a great career. People loved him. 133 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.159 Here of those who loved him, but there was a bunch of the people 134 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.840 that wanted to hell, get him, get him out again. They think 135 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.080 about think about when he thought when he spoke to the media on the night 136 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:48.240 that he quit, right, he resigned. I mean he was going to 137 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:52.840 get fired, but he resigned, and he said the fans were just too 138 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:56.200 vicious. He used the word vicious. I remember him using the word vicious 139 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:01.480 because they were. How do you think he would have how do you think 140 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:05.480 he would have handled today? Give him the bs it goes on? He 141 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.480 would have hated it. I think I think so too. I think if 142 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:11.159 he was still coaching in it, he would have managed it and he would 143 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:15.080 have done it. But I think he would have hated it and probably would 144 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.360 eventually said I don't want to do this anymore, kind of like Andy Lope, 145 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:22.399 like Mike Ken, I've had enough of this. He was an old 146 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.000 school blue collar I'm going to bring in this guy. And I think he 147 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:28.039 would have hated having to go recruit a guy who said, well, I'll 148 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.720 come, but you got to give me six figures plus a plus. He 149 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.279 was not a five star guy. He tried that. It didn't work and 150 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:39.720 and you know the BS on the internet, Well, he's not going after 151 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.480 big guys. He's not going out to the It doesn't work that way. 152 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.559 You gotta get him. And if you don't get him, look uh uh. 153 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:50.480 And we're gonna find out more about this tomorrow. But Jetfish is getting 154 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.679 those guys right, he's recruiting, he's doing something that happened done right. 155 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:56.039 How is he doing it? We don't, you know, we don't really 156 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:00.320 know other than you know, we've talked to recruits. Remember we talked to 157 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.639 North Alfida and he said, it was just the relationship. I just felt, 158 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:05.840 you know, really close to him and all that stuff. And that's 159 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:09.519 what you hear from athletes, high school players that he recruits, or anybody 160 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:15.399 that he recruits. But there's something more right. You know, he's he's 161 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:20.360 managing all of this, whether it's with nil or opportunities or whatever. You 162 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.960 know, he is. He is managing it better than I think maybe you 163 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:28.200 know some others. He's certainly more skillful at it. There was Michael V 164 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:33.440 did a tweet he was talking to some kids today. You made some people 165 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:37.080 available. You might want to go on his twitter. He talked to uh, 166 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.720 Wiley, I think it was Wiley, and he talked to what's the 167 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.120 different, Oh No, he talked to stukes. You know, what's the 168 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.559 big deal. Well, it's it's more it's it's a little bitbe clich ish, 169 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:50.960 but it's about the family and they actually really do care about You can 170 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.399 go to any program in the country and why did you go there? It 171 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.559 made me feel like home. Blah blah blah. Two weeks later or two 172 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.759 years later, guests where he's played for somebody else, what happened to the 173 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.799 home? What happened to the home? I mean, yeah, uh here 174 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.279 here. But it's true, it hasn't It hasn't really affected people go leaving 175 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:13.639 right right, yeah? And I mean and again you look at you look 176 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.279 at some of these guys who have left. They went to places they thought 177 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:22.639 were better that turned out oftentimes not be you know, so I I you 178 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.159 know, when you ask the question about how would Dick have done this, 179 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:31.480 I don't know Dick was. I think somebody who would adjusted things. Sure 180 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:35.919 has needed you have to, but I you know, I could also see 181 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:37.759 him being the guy that said, nah, it's not for me. You 182 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.639 know, they've done it for a while and then realized this is why I 183 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:46.960 came into coaching. Here's the Michael I asked. He says, I asked 184 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:50.440 Arizona dB Trading Stukes, how Jackfish was able to keep the team together in 185 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:54.879 the portal n I l Era, This is not a fake program, like 186 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.279 like when you come here, it really is a family. I feel like 187 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:01.720 those guys are my brothers in there, and the coaches, I feel like 188 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.279 they truly care about me as a person and not just as a football player. 189 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.600 Yeah, of course. I mean if you can do that, God 190 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.600 bless you. Sure, and I'm sure that sense happens in a lot of 191 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.720 places. But some people's a lot that it doesn't. A lot doesn't, 192 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:18.200 no question, because that's a factory. You know, it's a factory, 193 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.159 and people leave even even if they feel at home. I mean, do 194 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:26.480 you think they have this brotherly family feeling that usc where guys are spilling into 195 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:33.399 the portal? You know, like crazy Colorado? Colorado is another one. 196 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:35.519 You know, you know a lot of good players come in in there, 197 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:39.919 but you go into you're married to marry into a family that says, what 198 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:41.159 the hell did? I just do? You know? You heard a really 199 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:46.320 interesting thing last night on the on that College Football Inquired podcast because they were 200 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:52.159 talking about the the hearing that were the shot where the judge shot down the 201 00:12:54.120 --> 00:13:00.360 preliminary injunction or the temporary junction on the transfer wort. They spoke to aquarterback 202 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:05.759 from Colorado who wanted to transfer and was denied a transfer. He said the 203 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.279 reason he transferred was when Dion Sanders he testified to this, so this is 204 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.279 under oath. And when Deon Sanders got there, he was he said, 205 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.600 I was sitting in the front row of the whole. I'm here with my 206 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.240 bluggage kind of thing said. Then after that, Deon Sanders held a meeting 207 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:26.399 with the quarterbacks and Deon Sanders told the quarterbacks other quarterbacks, you are here 208 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:31.600 to make my kid better. And that's why the kid wanted to leave. 209 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:37.639 And the NCAA denied his transfer, and and he and now he's you know, 210 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.519 he's he gets transferred because but he said that that happened in a meeting 211 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:46.600 room with Deonce. Is that a family atmosphere? No, absolutely not, 212 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.679 because you know what what you hear Jed and his coaches talk about it is 213 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.879 we're here to make everybody better, not just certain guys. And here's a 214 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.200 coach who and I'm not here to alibi Ali by him, but he here's 215 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:01.360 a coach that stood behind a guy who's in the storting quarterback and was steadfast 216 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:07.080 and standing behind his under all conditions. Right, he was gonna let him 217 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.919 play as soon as he got got healthy enough. And it took too long. 218 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.080 It took so long that it got to a point you could not take 219 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.200 no feet off. And I'm not even referring to that and refer the trouble 220 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.200 that he had come up with the other stuff. Yeah, I mean he 221 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:22.679 yeah, yeah, no, he's he put his luck his skimu and you 222 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:28.000 know what, and and players will know that. Ye, yeah, without 223 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.679 question. I think he is then. I think he is that guy. 224 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:35.879 He's legitimately concerned where we go. All Right, We've got Evan Mayakawa coming 225 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.399 and he's a he's got that uh analytics program that he does. You're gonna 226 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:41.559 tell us a little bit about you know, who are the best players, 227 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.480 who are the best combos, who are the best teams? Uh with with 228 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.159 this analytics h that he's developed. Uh, So we'll talk to him. 229 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:50.679 We've had him on the show a couple of times before, a very interesting 230 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:58.200 uh discussion with lot smarter than us. Well, he did a lot of 231 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.879 math. And then now we're gonna, We're gonna, we're gonna bring in 232 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:05.080 some holiday chair with George Mortis from Showtime, Cards and nuts. You know 233 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:09.200 you can go get yourself a Babe Ruth card, you know, one hundred 234 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.720 thousand dollars Baby Ruth card to give to somebody for you left that in the 235 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:15.399 countrait exactly all right, So stick around. 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Let Arizona Pest Control get rid of 309 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:37.400 your bad bugs, termites, bees, or rodents serving Tucson and Southern Arizona 310 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:41.880 since nineteen forty seven. Go to azpest dot com to schedule your free evaluation 311 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:48.759 today. This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on 312 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:53.720 Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app just 313 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:57.519 searching I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back, joining the ball here 314 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:02.359 on Fox Sports fourteen. I'm Stieve Rivera. He's Jacob Saws Down on the 315 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:07.319 phone. We have Evan Mayakawa college basketball analysts who we needed to get you 316 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.039 back on the show before you solve the world's problems. Evan, because you're 317 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:15.599 such a smart dude. I'm not laughing because I'm disagreeing Evan I. I'm 318 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:21.200 laughing because he's Yeah, that's why we have a body can tell us what's 319 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:25.119 gonna happen in the future. How you doing I'm doing good. I mean, 320 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:27.920 what's more important to the world than figuring out college basketball analytics? Right 321 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.279 outside of the final four for the football team? Yeah, with the football 322 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:34.519 programs, you're exactly right, and they need you for that. You need 323 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.559 you need to go do that. You get get them, get them the 324 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:42.319 right four teams into the into the get them straight down into the down. 325 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:45.839 Sounds too controversial for me, I think, yeah, yeah, well, 326 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.599 you got a great gig. About a week or so ago, I was 327 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:53.079 watching college basketball somewhere and uh, they're talking about Ken Palmer and they're saying 328 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:56.920 the Maya Kawa report. I'm thinking, look at our guy, he's kind 329 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:00.480 of made it already. Only Moly, Well, I didn't even know that 330 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.079 happened. That's great. Yeah, yeah, so you're being quoted out there 331 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:07.599 in the real world of college basketball. How are things going? Is this 332 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:12.279 yours third year? Now? Boy? Let's see, I started my website 333 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:18.920 in twenty twenty, so I guess this would be my four fourth year season 334 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:22.240 that the website's been running. Yeah, yeah, And let me speak before 335 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:25.279 we get into it with this year's stuff. I want to ask you because 336 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:26.599 last year we talked about when we had you on the show, we talk 337 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:30.920 about Arizona all the time, maybe the year before with Ben Mathrin and the 338 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:34.720 analytics and some of the players, and Arizona had a good chance and then 339 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:40.079 they lose in the first round. How has the analytics panned out in terms 340 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:45.079 of finding the eventual winner or the final four teams? You know, I 341 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.160 think one of the real challenges, which is what makes March Madness so fun, 342 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:52.599 is that the tournament every year gets overanalyzed to death, and so every 343 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:57.079 possible trend, every possible deep nugget, people are pretty aware of. You 344 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.599 know this in this sport. You know, one of the common ones, 345 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:04.519 which I think has been floating up around this time, has been looking at 346 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:10.759 the correlation between last week's ap pole in week six of the season, right, 347 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:12.920 and how often one of the teams in the top twelve of that ap 348 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:18.240 pole has won the tournament almost every year out of the last two decades except 349 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:21.319 for maybe one year. Yeah, So there's random things like that that people 350 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:25.240 are, you know, often very aware of. Nowadays, and so I 351 00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:30.319 feel like, even with a website like mine, just because of how deep 352 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:33.240 people dive into the numbers when it comes to March Madness and trying to figure 353 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:34.440 out who's going to win it. At the end of the day, there's 354 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:38.319 still so much noise in the tournament. It's really hard to predict with much 355 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:41.400 accuracy, you know, who's going to cut down the net. So, 356 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:45.759 you know, let's let's start to dive into some of this stuff, because 357 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:49.480 it's really fascinating stuff with the ratings and things that you that you put together, 358 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:52.519 and you know, I really don't even know where to go. But 359 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:56.200 let's just say first of all, you know, you in your team rankings, 360 00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:59.119 you've got Arizona at four, which is exactly where they are in the 361 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:02.680 AP. You've got Houston, Purdue, Connecticut, Arizona, which is sort 362 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:08.119 of where everybody's at right now. You know, how much do these things 363 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.119 fluctuate? You know, does it take a game for it to fluctuate? 364 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.319 Does it take a series of games? How is the movement when you're talking 365 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.920 about let's say the top ten teams in your in your rankings. Well, 366 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:23.000 I think one of the interesting things to monitor as the season goes on. 367 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:29.119 Is when you start the season on a website like mine, I have preseason 368 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:33.119 projections for each team so that we don't just treat everyone as being you know, 369 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.039 equally skilled as every other team, with no knowledge about how good they're 370 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.119 going to be. Obviously, when we come into a season, we know 371 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:42.400 that Arizona is more likely to be a better team than say Northern Arizona, 372 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.680 right. But with that said, once the season goes along, as we 373 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:51.000 start to collect new data and gain new information about each team, we have 374 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:53.880 to kind of move away from those preseason projections. And so one of the 375 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:59.960 challenges with an analytic model like mine is how much at this point the season, 376 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.920 or in January and February even into March, do you rely only on 377 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:08.759 current season data versus our pre season expectations for a team. And so that's 378 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.640 one of the really interesting problems to try and solve. And at this point 379 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:17.079 in the season, obviously current season success really matters, but there still is 380 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:22.559 a decent amount of emphasis on preseason expectations for each team because a lot of 381 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.400 times that ends up still being very predictive of how a team ends up doing. 382 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.039 Come you know, March and April, and I don't think we've asked 383 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:30.440 you this before, or at least I haven't. Is it kind of like 384 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:36.160 a credit report where some things are weighed twenty ten percent in your categories that 385 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:41.400 make the top ten, top twenty teams. It's a little more complicated than 386 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:47.000 that. Part of that's because a lot of things are specific to each team. 387 00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:49.720 So there's not one formula that says, you know, multiply this number 388 00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:53.200 by this amount, because you know, say, for example, as I'm 389 00:25:53.240 --> 00:26:00.599 building preseason rankings, there's different variables that really affect what we have much certainty 390 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.240 or uncertainty we have about a team. So for example, a team like 391 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:07.839 Kentucky who's bringing in a lot of freshmen, obviously those freshmen are supposed to 392 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.640 be really good, but there's a lot more possible outcomes for how that team 393 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.519 could perform compared to a team like Arizona, for example, where even though 394 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:19.279 there's some new pieces, it's a very veteran laden team, and so we 395 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.640 can be more certain about the kind of range of outcomes for a team like 396 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:27.000 Arizona. So because of that, things are individualized to each team. So 397 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:32.480 some teams are treated differently than others. Okay, So I recall when we 398 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:37.839 brought I think this was during last season that Azulus to Bellas was consistently ranked, 399 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.200 you know, one of your one of your top players all year long. 400 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.200 We all saw, you know, how things turned out for Azulis and 401 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.599 Arizona by the end of the year. Then I look at your rankings this 402 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.880 year where you feel like Arizona's got all these guys and none of those guys 403 00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:53.119 are in your top ten, and then people will be surprised to hear that 404 00:26:53.559 --> 00:27:00.119 your highest rated Arizona guy is none other than Pelly Larson as opposed to to 405 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.720 Caleb Love Islan Boswell. Yeh uh, you know, Keisha Johnson. All 406 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:08.759 guys who you know from the eye test look like they're bigger, better, 407 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:14.200 more important contributors. How does a guy like Pella, uh, you know, 408 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:18.559 establish a rating where he's seen as sort of the you know, one 409 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.720 of the more indispensable players, or among the Arizona guys, the most indispensable 410 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.680 player. Yeah. So that metric that you're referring to is my player metric 411 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:32.720 called basing performance rating, and the essential idea behind it is to quantify how 412 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:37.160 impactful a guy is on the court. On offensive defense kind of whether they're 413 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.799 a high score or a low scorer, regardless of volume, regardless of position, 414 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:42.680 purely trying to figure out when this guy is on the floor, how 415 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:48.119 much value is he adding to the team. And so Pella Larson is one 416 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.799 of these players who he's not typically going to be Arizona's main playmaker, main 417 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:57.440 scorer, but he does a lot of things and is a big connector piece 418 00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:02.160 for this team. And when you look at both his box score efficiency and 419 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:06.039 just how well Arizona performs when he's on the floor and the effect that he 420 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:10.880 has on other teammates, the data suggests that he is the most valuable piece 421 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.839 when he's on the floor for Arizona. Now that being said, Arizona has 422 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.799 five or six guys that are all really close together, all inside the top 423 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.160 seventy nationally invasion performance rating, which are the you know, the main six 424 00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:26.279 guys on the team. So even though he's first right now ahead of those 425 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.640 other guys, it's not like he's leaps and downs ahead of everyone else. 426 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.839 You know, a lot of their players are contributing in their own right. 427 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.119 It's funny because you say this and now you're saying it I'm thinking that's maybe 428 00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.680 one of the reasons why they lost against Burdue because their main guy, Pella, 429 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:41.480 didn't have a good game, right, right, and he didn't And 430 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.319 does the do the numbers get kind of skewed in terms of if you have 431 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.799 five or six guys double digit scorers, they're all kind of even in terms 432 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:56.079 of stats. Yeah, And it's also do if you have, you know, 433 00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:00.119 a lot of the same guys play consistently together, that can make it's 434 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.039 a little more difficult. You know, if you have two guys who are 435 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.519 always on the floor together, it's a little bit harder to separate, you 436 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:08.519 know, who's having the impact between the two, which is why it's really 437 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.000 helpful to still look at box stats a little bit because if you have, 438 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.960 say, two guys on the floor who are have a plus minus of ten, 439 00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:19.480 but one of them scores thirty points the other scores three points, the 440 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.160 thirty point scorer probably has more of an impact than the three point scorer. 441 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.839 So that's you know, still a definitely important part of the formula in calculating 442 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:32.880 my player ratings. Well again, looking at your your five man lineups, 443 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.759 the ratings of those you know, Arizona's got. Their starting lineup is the 444 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:41.079 fifth rated lineup that you have here and again, which goes to what you 445 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.279 were saying, because then I looked at the player ratings and you said they 446 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.559 were bunched. You got three guys bunched together, Caleb Love, Kylan Boswell, 447 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:53.000 and Jayden Bradley not a starter thirty one, thirty two, and thirty 448 00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:57.039 three in your player ratings. I think that's really interesting. Yeah, And 449 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:02.839 actually you mentioned that five man lineup of Ballow, Boslow, Kishad Johnson, 450 00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:07.279 Larson, and Love, and they of all lineups in the entire country, 451 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.680 across all teams that have played over two hundred possessions, they are the most 452 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:17.359 efficient lineup in college basketball so far this season. And I think this is 453 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:21.519 a trend that I've seen under Tommy Lloyd in his time at Arizona that his 454 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:26.680 starting lineup is usually really, really good. I'm looking at the data from 455 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.240 last year. Their starting lineup from last year had similar results. So that's 456 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.799 something I feel like is one of Tommy Lloyd's calling cards with Arizona so far, 457 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:38.039 is really getting that starting five in lockstep with each other and being really 458 00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:41.160 dominant when they're they're on the flour together, Evan and having covered the team 459 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.680 for a long time three decades, and Jay being part of it and watching 460 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.799 it too. It all means nothing. It all means nothing come March, 461 00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.759 right, we already talked about that, because you can have these great guys 462 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:59.519 and these teams and then come March it starts over or you play one bad 463 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.599 game and it all goes away. That's why we love the tournament, don't 464 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.359 we. Well, people at Tuson are kind of still the voats or the 465 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.279 votes out because of what happened last year. So so another one in the 466 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:14.559 stats, you've got it. You've got a box here on the fastest teams. 467 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.799 Okay, and you got Arizona and then a bunch of teams that you 468 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.079 know, where's Alabama in that miss They're well, they're not in the they're 469 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.200 not in the top they're not in the top ten. You got Kennessas State, 470 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.960 Arizona, U, NBC Long Beach State, Tulane, Samford, not 471 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.519 Stanford, Samford, Tennessee, Martin Bryant, New Mexican, Marshall. So 472 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.880 Arizona's really the only Power five team that that that you see in there. 473 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.519 Tell it, what's the fastest team rating, and how does that what does 474 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:47.880 that measure? Yeah, so I have a metric that basically says, if 475 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.119 you if you take out information on you know, how fast other teams are 476 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.680 that you're playing, and you basically adjust for the pace of other teams. 477 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:01.720 If you were playing an average team that ran a average pace, how how 478 00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.920 many possessions would be in that game. And so for Arizona, they're second 479 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:09.319 in the country in true tempo, which basically means, you know, adjusted 480 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:13.880 for opponent, their games are going to have a lot more possessions, a 481 00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.160 lot more down and back than most most games are going to have, and 482 00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.160 that definitely plays into their hand. They have a top ten offense in the 483 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.680 country and so not to mention a really good defense as well, and so 484 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.400 especially in most games where they're going to be favored, it's a really good 485 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.119 idea for them to try and get as many possessions in a game as possible 486 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:37.119 because it just further it further secures their chance of winning that game just by 487 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.200 having more opportunities. Yes, well, so if you're the opponent's coach, 488 00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.200 the one thing you don't want them to do is to do that, So 489 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.359 you kind of milk the clock and milk the clock and you know, shut 490 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:50.119 clock and all that stuff. So and that sometimes most of the time doesn't 491 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.000 work because if Arizona gets a good lead on you, you can't do that. 492 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:58.279 Yeah exactly. You know, once you're if you have a lead that 493 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.880 Arizona builds, then you're kind of lost because you kind of have to keep 494 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:04.200 the tempo up in order to have a chance of catching them, which of 495 00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:07.559 course plays right into their hands. Right. Yeah, So looking at your 496 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:13.200 overall strength roster strength rankings again, Arizona, you know at three, but 497 00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.720 and you got you know who you would expect to be up to Connecticut, 498 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.599 Purdue, Arizona, Houston b Uyu who's doing really well, Creighton, Iowa 499 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.559 State, Marquette, Duke Tennessee. When you're talking about roster strength, that 500 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.240 tell us a little bit about that one. Yeah. So roster strength is 501 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:32.640 as an attempt to kind of separate out a little bit of like historical team 502 00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:38.400 success and coaching ability from the actual pieces talent wise that a roster has. 503 00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:44.759 So roster strength is more focused on like basically adding up a sum of the 504 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:49.839 individual talent on each team, as opposed to also including other variables that we 505 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.720 also, you know, typically considered when we're talking about how good a team 506 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:54.640 is, like, you know, has this team of good in previous years? 507 00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:58.880 How good is the coach, et cetera. Yeah, well, all 508 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.799 right, well, when we're thing and so looking at all these numbers that 509 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.920 you have in terms of you know, individual players, rosters, lineups, 510 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.800 you know, all these things. When you think when you think of Arizona 511 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:14.440 versus everybody else, you know, top five team, top two team, 512 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.199 top nineteen, where where did you know? Where did that? Where do 513 00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:21.840 they sit in your in your eyes when you take in all this all this 514 00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.880 information that you have. Yeah, so you know, uh, Arizona, 515 00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.239 as you mentioned, I have number four, and that also lines up with 516 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.400 their APE franking as of yesterday. I really do think that there right now 517 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.719 is a kind of consensus, at least according to my computer metrics and some 518 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.199 other ones that are out there, there's a clear top four. It's Houston, 519 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:45.119 Purdue, Yukon, and Arizona, and I have Houston number one. 520 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.199 But they haven't really been tested in the same way that those other three have, 521 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.199 you know, so we'll see how they hold up as big Big twelve 522 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:55.039 play goes. But Arizona certainly arguably has the best win in the country right 523 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.079 now, you know, on the road at Duke. You know, I 524 00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:01.000 know Duke has been a little disappointing so far this year, but I still 525 00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:05.679 have them ranked in the top ten in the country, and I think they're 526 00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.639 going to be a great team, you know, the rest of the year. 527 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:12.480 And I really I think Arizona has been one of the most pleasant surprises 528 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.599 in the country because they were expected to be a good team this year, 529 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.960 but especially bringing in a piece like Caleb Love, who everyone was kind of 530 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.800 on the fence about how he was going to translate, that's really clicked for 531 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.840 them. I mean, he's been way more efficient than in previous years, 532 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.559 and I think because of that and the reliability of other pieces they have and 533 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.639 Kylon Boswell running the point, you know, I think, you know, 534 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.639 the sky's limit for them. And when you look at a guy like Umar 535 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.360 Ballo, who I think of all of their main rotation guys, he's probably 536 00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:45.239 been a little below expectations. We saw how dominant he could be in stretches 537 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:50.239 last year, so you know, if he takes a step like it's expected, 538 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.039 the team only gets better from there. Yeah, before maybe last a 539 00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:00.119 couple core questions before they lost to Purdue. Was Arizona number one? I 540 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.559 think Houston was still number one at that point, Okay, but I'd have 541 00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.159 to check, yeah, and I can't remember. I think, don't you 542 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.519 do plusure mine us if they play a Batma tomorrow game predictions? What's what's 543 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.039 tomorrow? Do you have tomorrow? Yeah? You got yeah? Yeah, 544 00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.519 go ahead, you tell yeah. Arizona is favored by six in that game. 545 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:21.119 And I think the fun part about it is the predicted scores ninety one 546 00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.559 to eighty five with a you know total of one hundred and seventy six points. 547 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:28.400 And I was looking at the whole rest of all the game predictions for 548 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:30.880 all D one games for the rest of the year. This is the second 549 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:35.440 highest predicted like score total of any game the rest of the season. Because 550 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.000 of how fast TV teams play and how good their offenses are, so this 551 00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:43.599 should be one of the most you know, high paced, high offense games 552 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.000 we're going to see all year hopefully, Yeah, no question, and we're 553 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.199 looking forward to it. Baby, take the over. It depends. It 554 00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.199 could be one thirty five. Uh So you just maybe a personal item, 555 00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:57.039 you are you still in the job, you know, nuclear scientists somewhere in 556 00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:02.480 Texas. What are you doing now? I have a day job in sports 557 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:07.599 analytics for a company that works with professional teams, So I do that during 558 00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:09.880 the day and then I do my college basketball analytics on aside and outside of 559 00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:16.119 that. You're the modern day Josh Bassner. A lot of things going on. 560 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.880 That's it. That's a good thing, Evan. I know Josh has 561 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.239 been fired from a job, but no, he's We think highly of Josh. 562 00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.840 He was actually on the show yesterday, so yeah, he doesn't sleep 563 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.800 and he thinks basketball all the time. Do we call you doctor yet? 564 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.880 You have the pH d? Are you still getting it? Yeah? I 565 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.800 had. I got my pH d as of a year ago. All right, 566 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:40.360 doctor, doctor Mike Cowe. Wow. Nice well doctor, we'll see 567 00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:44.960 you have another appointment and maybe in a couple of months. Yeah sounds good. 568 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:46.480 Okay, I hope you take our insurance. Evan, thanks a whole 569 00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:52.519 bunch, man, appreciate it. Thank you, Eving. Oh that's fine, 570 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:52.880 that's right, cool, all right, thank you. No, that's 571 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:57.760 fine. That's interesting stuff. Go to his website. It's Evan my E 572 00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.039 v A N M I y A dot com and you'll see all the stuff 573 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:07.400 that we just talked about on his website, incredible information analytics. If you're 574 00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.360 if you're a day if you're a data junkie for for sports like this, 575 00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.800 this is where you want to This is where you want to be, and 576 00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.480 he talks about it, does a lot of does a lot of media and 577 00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:22.239 stuff, and you can subscribe to get deeper into a lot of his stuff. 578 00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.440 But it's a fascinating stuff that he does. Right right, it's all 579 00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.559 college basketball. If you want to know, he was quoted not too long 580 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.320 ago. I saw her as all we got to get him on the show 581 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:31.920 yet. Yeah, okay, all right, let's take a break. We'll 582 00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.360 be back. We'll take your calls. Five two zero, four, one, 583 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:45.559 six, seventy four, forty We're right back. Change. 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It's put Schung that time the barstools 625 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:43.239 forts Arizona bo is thrilled to bring two powerhouse programs, the Toledo Rockets and 626 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:47.360 Wyoming Cowboys, to Arizona Stadium on December thirtieth. But but hung Go Week 627 00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:52.400 is more than the football game. It's Tucson's own end of year party that 628 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.719 doesn't stop until the Taco touchdown at the Taco Belt New Year's Eve Downtown Bowl 629 00:41:55.800 --> 00:42:01.599 Bash featuring fireworks presented by O'Reilly's Chevrolet. Start your put Shanga journey and get 630 00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:08.840 your tickets today at the Arizona Bowl dot com. Steve Ravera and Jacin Salads. 631 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:15.599 They have their eye on the ball on Tucson Sports Stage yet Fox Sports 632 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:20.480 fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to you. I'm about hero Fox Sports 633 00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.000 fourteen fifty. I'm Steve. He's Jay got be with us today. Have 634 00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:27.119 ten minutes and because what a call. Please do. Good to hear from 635 00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.000 you as usual, yep. Always always love to hear from you. Yeah, 636 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.920 always going to talk to him. The dude, the smartest. He 637 00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.559 he's a phdeve. How would you even you know, cross a te dot 638 00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.920 the id crist well carry the one. Well here here's the thing. You 639 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:45.199 know, uh, you know, people who just have a knack knack for 640 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.719 something like that, they can not only can they do the math and suff 641 00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.639 like that, but they can get creative with you know, they're trying to 642 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.679 get to a point. You know, I'm guessing he decided, Okay, 643 00:42:54.679 --> 00:43:00.760 I want to develop a system and a program that will tell me, you 644 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.679 know, all these things that I want to know about you know, college 645 00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.760 basketball, and then you use that brain to figure out, you know, 646 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:13.320 the the numbers and and and that that you need to have to you know, 647 00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.880 spit out you know, these uh, these rankings and things that that 648 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:22.840 he's got so you know, just way above our pay grades no very it's 649 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:28.519 very cool stuff. Good insight. I do like it. We didn't ask 650 00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.159 him when he said it was the second most points scored in the in the 651 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.800 season for the rest of the way, I wonder what the number one would 652 00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:38.239 be, because there's no question this is gonna be a huge, large scoring 653 00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.559 Yeah. Yeah, they're you know, they're gonna want They're gonna run up 654 00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:44.320 and down the court. They know it's gonna be on you know, the 655 00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.920 national TV. You know they want, you know, everybody wants to show 656 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:51.360 and you know they get fired up for these games. Plus you know Arizona's 657 00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:55.239 coming off for loss, and I think it's so Bama. Yeah, they're 658 00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.079 coming off too, and you know Bama saying we got to get one of 659 00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:00.599 these and we've had three. This is a third opportunity to be the top 660 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:05.320 ten team. Let's go get this one. So I think you can expect 661 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.599 both teams to be pretty pretty jacked up to you know, to show out 662 00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:14.440 on Tomorrow night. The question is when is the game eventually gonna come on? 663 00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:15.559 Right right? It could be nine, nine thirty, whatever it is. 664 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.760 But to Arizona goes back to Obama next year, they're going to play 665 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:21.960 in the right place, all right. So it's a home and home kind 666 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:23.639 of a home and home kind of a home home. But yeah, the 667 00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:29.800 event tomorrow is the Jerry Colangelo twenty twenty three Hall of Fame Series. It's 668 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.679 up in Phoenix at the Footprint Center, which is to those of us who've 669 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:38.880 been around America West Arena, it was also called Talking Stick more recently. 670 00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:44.199 But there's four games tomorrow up there. First, at noon, you've got 671 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:49.840 Fresno State against Arizona State Women. Then the Arizona women take on Gonzaga, 672 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.280 who is ranked at about two thirty. Schedule for two thirty, probably closer 673 00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:58.280 to to forty five or or so. Then at six thirty, got Northwestern, 674 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.400 who's beat produced so they're actually a pretty good team taking on a su 675 00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:07.280 who's been struggling lately. And then at the schedule for nine o'clock on ESPN, 676 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:12.840 you've got Alabama and Arizona. So those four games. If you want 677 00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.960 tickets to that, it's the two sessions. The women's session is session one, 678 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.440 of the men's session Session two. It should be a lot of fun. 679 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:22.199 I don't know. Well, here's a let me click on the tickets. 680 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.800 Nobody are gonna have to take a nap tomorrow. It's be late late 681 00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:30.480 nights. Start about nine to fifteen, nine o'clock whatever time, play two 682 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.960 hours, it gets to even fifteen interviews. Oh man, don't we'll talk 683 00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:39.000 about it. Tickets upper level tickets run about forty five bucks win lower down 684 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:47.280 low let's say down low center court side. You're probably talking one hundred and 685 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.239 sixty bucks for two games. Yep, yeah, gip, both games. 686 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.639 Get both games, you know, in a session for one of the premier 687 00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.880 games of the year. Yeah, it'll be good, you know, and 688 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:00.599 again close you know us at home. You know, we had the Wisconsin 689 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:06.480 game here. You know, you'll have you know, you can watch watches 690 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.440 and then you know this, These tend to be games where fans who don't 691 00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:13.480 get to go to michale a lot of times, you know, they they 692 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.920 uh uh, you know, get get tickets and go to these games so 693 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.440 they get a chance to see them. It's like one of the reasons that 694 00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:22.519 you know, Vegas is such a you know, such a big dea Arizona 695 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.119 fans because you get so many fans and go to Vegas because they don't get 696 00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.880 to see him here. And of course the debauchery. Well, there is 697 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.360 the debauchery. I know. I don't partake in any of that. No, 698 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:37.440 no, you're too tony, I don't. I don't have much debauch 699 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.280 left. You don't have no time, no time, walk by a walk 700 00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:45.079 in the hotel at two in the morning, you'll see it. But but 701 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.159 again, it should be a good game. ESPN has it here, so 702 00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:52.639 uh uh you know, if you can step till nine o'clock and watch that 703 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:57.280 game, be sure, and the women go up two and they're gonna be 704 00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.199 on channel thirteen. Yes, that game will be on channel thirteen and you 705 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.320 can watch it. You can watch it here. So it could be a 706 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:06.400 you know, a nice little, nice little thing for them to look they're 707 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.760 they're playing better, you know, you know, I know, there's just 708 00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:14.360 so much of the conversation has been about players who have gone and stuff like 709 00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.360 that and injuries and uh, you know, they got nine players now on 710 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.679 you know, on their bench, with Myanaji deciding she wants to go be 711 00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.239 a doctor instead of a basketball player, and which is great for her. 712 00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.039 But they beat the hell out a su you know. Yeah, well they 713 00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:34.239 bounce back from that. Kentucky lost and they didn't actually look Texas, Texas. 714 00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.199 Well, that's the problem, Jay, in terms of they played a 715 00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.639 very very very good team, top five team here, got beat and then 716 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:45.840 they played a very very not so good team here. So there's someone in 717 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:51.679 between this and yeah, well they're gonna have plenty of this, the Texas 718 00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.800 side of it, coming up with a with all the teams that are ranked 719 00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.199 at ranked pretty high in the in the back twelve, did you I want 720 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:01.800 to put you on the spot. So it's been three four years removed from 721 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:06.039 the final four, three or four years whatever from the one that was the 722 00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:08.159 Phoenix, No, no, from the women, oh, the women final 723 00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:14.800 four. Yeah, that was twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one. Surprised, 724 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:19.599 surprised that and they've kind of sustained it, but surprised they didn't sustain 725 00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:23.320 it. And I used that loosely in a sense that it's not what it 726 00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:28.480 was, yeah, because in the sense that you know, what what what 727 00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.280 a deal was able to do that she was getting recruits McDonald's all Americans, 728 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:36.519 you know, yeah, yeah, yeaha all these players and for whatever reason, 729 00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:38.280 you know, weren't working out. And I don't know what the reason 730 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:45.199 is behind that. Miss evaluated didn't you know, didn't didn't like the program, 731 00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.159 didn't get they didn't get their shot right away, so they left because 732 00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:52.000 they could. Sure, you know, all the reasons that those players that 733 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.440 she recruited coming out of that, so many of them have left. I 734 00:48:55.480 --> 00:49:00.480 mean this team, you know, Helena Playo, you know, last is 735 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:05.199 the last remnant of that team. So yeah, in a sense, surprised 736 00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:07.280 that it didn't. It didn't, it didn't stand. But you still don't 737 00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.719 feel that they're that far away either. You know, if this, let's 738 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.719 say, if this core group group holds together, if you don't you know, 739 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.840 there's nine players left on this team, if five of them don't leave, 740 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:22.159 you know, if they stick around and she adds to this as opposed 741 00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:27.199 to losing three and picking up three new or four new players, then you 742 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.320 think, you know, she just hasn't been able to have any continuity with 743 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:35.119 with the roster for what for whatever reason, whether it's the kids, whether 744 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:37.159 it's her, whether whatever, or a combination of ball. Yeah, you 745 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:42.039 know, and that's you know, that's been an issue. She hasn't been 746 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.159 able to sustain that with with the with the group that the group of players 747 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:50.039 that she's recruited, you mind not she is McDonald's all American and now you 748 00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.320 know, boom, here we are in her, you know, halfway through 749 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.760 her sophomore season and she's gone, yeah, you know. And there's some 750 00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.199 other of those. So man, I think it's it's one of the toughest 751 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.599 things to do down in college. And and actually, if you read read 752 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.960 Peterson, go to tweet tweet Twitter, go to the Twitter world, and 753 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:15.320 uh Lev asked Tommy about the new rule, the double transfer. He he's 754 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.119 not happy, not happy, he went. He was asked twice about it, 755 00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:21.559 and he's not happy because they're not prepared for it. You know. 756 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:23.760 The rules are yes, no, no, no, no no, and 757 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:27.480 then all of a sudden you can okay, you can do something, and 758 00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.079 you were yeah, where you planning, what are you planning that? No? 759 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:31.800 No, no no, and here they are not that he said it 760 00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:35.239 would have affected him. He did okay with the guys that he got. 761 00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.559 Yeah, yeah, don't cry for Tommy Lloyd exactly. Don't cry for Virginia 762 00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.199 or Tommy Lloyd exactly. Well, we'll talking to each other in March. 763 00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.280 Yeah, but yeah, but you know, against Steve, you know, 764 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:50.880 it's just everything I listened to you know, everybody you've talked to, you 765 00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:55.679 just tell us how absolutely nuts it is out there in all of this, 766 00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:59.480 you know, Yeah, you're probably gonna hear more of that from from Jetfish 767 00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:02.679 tomorrow. Is recruiting a press con. You just look at all the stuff 768 00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:07.599 on sports on the ESPN dot com or wherever you go to in the A 769 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.280 l stuff. And did you see what Utah was giving the kids? YEA 770 00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:16.960 trucks. Yeah, everybody got one, the gymnastics and basketball. Where's this 771 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:21.519 money coming from? I thought we were in a recession from somewhere. Somebody's 772 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:23.800 got it and they're giving it. And not just one. Everybody got one. 773 00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:27.039 Yeah, a whole bunch of them. Yeah, no, yeah, 774 00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:29.880 I mean you know, and you look at that and you go, okay, 775 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.360 how am I supposed to compete with that? Right? Right? Right? 776 00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:37.239 How do I compete with that? All right? That's it, man, 777 00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:38.280 top of the hour. Here we go. All right, so we're 778 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.199 gonna be back. We do have some breaking news a few things and some 779 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.440 more bad stuff coming out of Las Vegas. But uh, and then in 780 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:50.159 the say, in the second segment, excuse me, Georgia, mine is 781 00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.639 coming in here. We'll talk to them card trading and that kind of stuff. 782 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:57.119 If maybe give you some Christmas gift ideas, So stick around for all 783 00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:02.000 of those. We'll be right back. Don't believe it is one, don't 784 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:05.840 believe it is, well, don't believe it is