1 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,160 Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and 2 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,760 David Harsani. Just a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, 3 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,480 please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. We love your mail, 4 00:00:26,879 --> 00:00:29,519 and if you enjoy the work we do here at the Federalist, you 5 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:33,600 can show your support by visiting our website and joining the Federalist Community for an 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,759 ad free website experience and access to exclusive content you don't want to miss. 7 00:00:38,359 --> 00:00:41,119 Exactly, David, it's four dollars a month. It helps us a ton, 8 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,200 and we really appreciate it. And we also really appreciate that mail that 9 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,759 we get. And I thought last week's mail bag was perhaps the best ever. 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,039 Hey, Mollie, I don't actually appreciate everything we get, because I'll 11 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:57,079 tell you something we did get And people keep doing this and I don't like 12 00:00:57,159 --> 00:01:02,399 it. They keep reimagining are the picture that we use for the show, 13 00:01:02,679 --> 00:01:04,879 and in it I am not in it anymore. They just have you and 14 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,200 like my hair on the top. So I don't appreciate that. Yeah, 15 00:01:08,599 --> 00:01:11,040 I think people want the show to be One guy said he wanted the show 16 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,920 to be called You're Wrong. David Harsani with Molly Hemingway. I like the 17 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,680 fan art that we get sometimes on it, and I think it looks great, 18 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:23,239 So I think some of them could actually replace what we use. But 19 00:01:25,359 --> 00:01:29,719 did you, by chance see the fight that broke out in or nearly broke 20 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,439 out in the Senate this week, David, I did. I was excited 21 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,159 about that. Two Irish dudes ready to drop the gloves and go at it. 22 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,680 Oh you don't like Irish, I'm sorry. Mark Wayne Mullen. I 23 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,280 believe his native American is he Irish. Oh he is? Yeah. Isn' 24 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,959 mullen an Irish name though, because I'll tell you Sean O'Brien is definitely Irish. 25 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:59,439 I loved that the senator read the fighting words from the union boss and 26 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:02,599 then he was like, I'm ready anytime, any place. When he stood 27 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,760 up and you saw that he had that like inverted triangle figure and he just 28 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,319 starts to take off the ring off of his hand, and I'm like, 29 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:14,479 oh wow, this. I would not want to fight this person at all. 30 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,240 And then I learned that he was a former MMA champ. So I 31 00:02:17,319 --> 00:02:22,199 think it would have been great if it would have actually led to fisticuffs. 32 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,599 Me too. I think we need more of that. But can I read 33 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,879 a little bit of the of the interaction? Yes, sir, so this 34 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,560 is mull and sirr, this is the time. This is a place you 35 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,960 want to run your mouth. Can we can be two consenting adults. We 36 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,080 can finish it here of it? Okay, that's perfect, O'Brian says, 37 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,759 Emlin says, you want to do it now, like getting out of their 38 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,919 seats. Actually O'Brien did not get out of his seat, and then that 39 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,840 Cammy Sanders ruined all the fun. So Sean Davis was talking about it, 40 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:55,560 and he said that in these procedural dramas on television like Law and Order, 41 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:01,080 there's always this moment where you know, the defense attorney or the prosecuting attorneys 42 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,800 like a little out of out, out of hand, and the judge will 43 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,520 say, I'm going to allow you to continue, but I want you to 44 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,039 watch yourself. And he thought that's what Bernie should have said, like, 45 00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:16,599 I'm allowing you to continue, but I don't want any like dirty stuff, 46 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:22,400 Senator Mark Wayne Mullin or something. So so after I watched that, I 47 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:27,080 was reminded that they have these kind of brawls in foreign parliaments all the time, 48 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:31,120 like Taiwan and in Ukraine and in like recently I think it was Kosovo 49 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,000 or somewhere, and those are really fun to watch. Like first someone will 50 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:38,840 just throw water at the other person, but then it always, you know, 51 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,520 ratchets up and there's just like fifteen people punching each other, and you 52 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,280 know, I'd like to see that here. I'm not going to lie. 53 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,599 I'm not I you know, I think we could. How can I say 54 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:51,280 there should be some repercussions for the things you say? This is why I 55 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,080 wrote that column many years ago about bringing back dueling. I think people would 56 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,319 be more polite if they knew they had to actually stand up and you know, 57 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:04,080 stand behind their words. Highlee Griswold are sweet as anything. Editor wrote 58 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,479 a piece in defense of fist fights in January of this year, which I 59 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:13,199 think was after fistfights nearly broke out between the Republicans over the speaker battle in 60 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,800 January. Yeah, and my husband is a longtime proponent of fighting versus passive 61 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:24,879 aggressive caddy fighting. So like in DC, the supposedly grown men are really 62 00:04:24,959 --> 00:04:28,600 catty with each other and really passive aggressive, And he's always like I think 63 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,160 actually a fight would do wonders because he tells me that men are such simple 64 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,800 emotional creatures that they can engage in fighting and then just kind of like move 65 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:42,720 past it very easily, and he thinks that would be better for our body. 66 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:46,360 Put I'm an older fella, so I'll just say that, I don't 67 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,079 know if it's still the case. But when you were like in even elementary 68 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,879 school, junior hig school, high school, and you had something to say, 69 00:04:51,519 --> 00:04:54,920 you have to be careful because you might have to, you know, 70 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,800 get into a fight over it, So that that changed the sort of dynamics. 71 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,480 And I don't think I think you lose that as an adult in most 72 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,240 cases. Obviously, I don't want anyone to get really hurt. But anyway, 73 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:11,319 when I won the Bradley Prize, I began and you get a little 74 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:15,399 speech that you get to do, and I began my speech by talking about 75 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,680 how much I learned from my brother when a group of bullies were beating up 76 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:24,560 on him. He was he skipped he was young for his class, and 77 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,959 he skipped a grade, so he was super young for his class and super 78 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,879 smart, and he was kind of getting attacked for it, as boys did 79 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:39,399 in the nineteen eighties, and he came home and my dad and a neighbor 80 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,240 who was a janitor at this at one of our schools, taught him how 81 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:49,519 to fight, and he went and took the fight to them and became overnight, 82 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,160 like amazing. In the school, everyone was like so impressed that this 83 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:59,639 guy, who was much smaller but incredibly smart and scrappy, had taken on 84 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:05,199 these three bullies. And I thought that was just like a really wonderful thing 85 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,480 that it just inspired me a lot. But one of the other Bradley Prize 86 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:14,480 winners gave a speech on how Like, and it was a lovely speech and 87 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:19,079 it was really wonderful, but it began by talking about how immature it is 88 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,920 to fight or something, or like to view in politics in terms of lights. 89 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,920 And I was like, oh, this is uncomfortable because I went right 90 00:06:27,959 --> 00:06:30,800 after her. Anyway, I don't know when I was growing up, Like 91 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:32,120 one time I was bullied when I was young, and my dad's like, 92 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,160 you don't run away crying. You got to stand up to the bullies, 93 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,120 and he taught me, like some move still got beat up really bad after 94 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,560 that. But I think when bullies realized that they're going to have to actually 95 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,839 fight someone when they bully them. It changes also that dynamic. So it's 96 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:51,800 a pretty good lesson in life. You're wrong, is a pro violence, 97 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,800 I mean pro dueling profisticuffs, I really am not. I would just say 98 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,480 that sometimes people act like violence is the worst thing in the world, and 99 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,199 there are things that are worse than violence sometimes, or there are competing values 100 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:11,199 in place. So I'm truly not in favor of physical fighting or anything like 101 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:15,000 that, but I'm also really not in favor of the passive aggressive silliness. 102 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,199 Yeah, I don't think fighting is the worst thing on earth for young people. 103 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,240 I'm going to be honest. I mean, I just think you learn 104 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:26,439 a lot of lessons about the world growing up in that kind of environment. 105 00:07:26,519 --> 00:07:30,519 Now, obviously there's the bullying is terrible that happens in the world, and 106 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:33,079 all these anti bullying efforts are good. But you know, I think we 107 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:34,920 lost a little something there. I don't know, We're going to get in 108 00:07:34,959 --> 00:07:40,920 trouble for this little segment here playing sun. Let to move on. Let's 109 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,680 talk about our favorite thing, the media, our favorite institution. So I 110 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,639 don't know if you saw this, it's a letter from the where It's like 111 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:57,079 an email from the Biden White House to the media complaining about the media pulling 112 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,399 their punches on Donald Trump, being too soft on Donald Trump. And here 113 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,720 is one graph I'll read too quote for the political press, especially our friends 114 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,839 at the Gray Lady the New York Times, it's time to meet the moment 115 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:15,639 and responsibility, oh and responsibly inform the electorate of what their lives might look 116 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,480 like if the leading GOP candidate for the president is allowed back into the White 117 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:26,920 House. Now, I was this statement says a lot. There's so much 118 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,800 in there. You'll notice that the GOP candidate does not get elected, he 119 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:35,000 is allowed back into the White House. But typically the White House will send 120 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:39,960 out a complaint about a factual error. Here in this instance, and they're 121 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,440 complaining about a story on abortion where the story says Donald Trump has sort of 122 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,200 circumvented that problem for himself. They're not even complaining about anything factual. They're 123 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,879 just simply saying, listen, you have to campaign with us. You have 124 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:56,799 to be on this side in this moment in history. You're part of the 125 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,559 campaign, not an independent media organist. And I don't even know why they 126 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:07,200 have to say this to the New York Times, but they demand complete subservience 127 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,919 to their cause, which is completely un American, undermines the First Amendment. 128 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:16,360 If Donald Trump did it, the world would melt down. But yet here 129 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:18,120 we are. So first of all, I just want to say I actually 130 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:22,039 agree with the Biden White House that the New York Times should in fact talk 131 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,279 about what life under a Donald Trump presidency would be. Like, I think 132 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,240 that's a great idea for them to compare the policy agendas of the two people. 133 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:37,080 We have a rare opportunity to compare two people who actually were in office. 134 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,639 Like I was thinking about it, how it relates to other people who 135 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:41,960 are running for office. You're like, I like this person, but how 136 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,360 would they be in office? How would they handle the pressures in office? 137 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,279 Well, we have a head to head matchup between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. 138 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,799 We know exactly how they handle themselves. And it's not like a it's 139 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,120 not like a perfect like one's perfect and one's horribly imperfect. They both have 140 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:05,720 strengths and but I think objectively speaking, the Trump presidency is like a dream 141 00:10:05,919 --> 00:10:11,320 scape compared to what we've gone through under the Biden presidency. So it would 142 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,240 be great for the New York Times to be honest about that. That's not 143 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:16,279 really what your point was, though, No, no, but that's a 144 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,279 good point. I mean, yeah, I mean, if they were honest, 145 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,600 then we would first of all. So the underlying the subtext of this, 146 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:30,279 of course, is that Donald Trump is you know, Hitler and democrats 147 00:10:30,279 --> 00:10:33,360 save democracy. And when you believe that, if that is your starting point 148 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,120 and you're just you can justify anything you do, right, so that you 149 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:39,039 know, that's my point here is that I think that this is how you 150 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,240 justify censorship. This is how you justify a media that is in bed with 151 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:48,159 the state and so on. But yeah, yeah, yeah, there's one 152 00:10:48,159 --> 00:10:50,840 more thing I wanted to say. Last night, I was at this event 153 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:52,960 and this person was telling me about something that ran in the Wall Street Journal 154 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,759 that was anti Trump, and it was saying, if Donald Trump wins office, 155 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,080 imagine what's going to happen. He will use the Department of Justice to 156 00:11:05,159 --> 00:11:11,440 go after his political opponents, even threatening them with jail, you know, 157 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:16,000 and like went through all these things and you're thinking, you're going to get 158 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,919 to the point where you realize they're talking about the current administration, which is 159 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,840 actually doing all these things. Right now, and the person apparently was legitimately 160 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,000 writing it as if this was a threat that would be imagined by someone else 161 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:33,480 taking office, like totally oblivious to what's going on right now. It's funny 162 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,399 because truck They got very mad about this. But Trump was saying in his 163 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,759 own way. He was saying that I'm going to do what we should just 164 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,639 do, or I'm going to do what they do to oz back to them. 165 00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:48,159 But when you say that, they get so upset, Like I'm not 166 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,639 even sure it was him saying it. Wasn't it Like other people were like, 167 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,759 hey, if he gets a second term, here's what we're going to 168 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,600 do on his behalf. But they weren't even actually talking on his behalf. 169 00:11:56,759 --> 00:11:58,759 I think I don't remember the interview, but I think he said something like 170 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,159 you know that we're going to look into this or that and prosecute people or 171 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,720 whatever. But I don't exactly remember who said it. But whoever said it, 172 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,039 don't you think one of the big failures of the Trump administration was that 173 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,519 they never held anyone accountable for the Russia collusion scam that has caused just like 174 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:20,679 maybe destroyed the country, but caused unbelievable damage to trust and institutions and the 175 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:26,159 two standards of justice that we have. Don't you think he should have done 176 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,639 something about that? I do. I mean I think within the government people 177 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:33,240 have participated in that and leaked things and you know, and lied. I 178 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,679 think yes, I mean he can still do that, though, I'm just 179 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,159 saying we had this standard. Well, but at the time he was in 180 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:46,240 office, the idea was this weird unconstitutional idea that if you are the president 181 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,600 and you have a Department of Justice, you cannot do anything with the Department 182 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,320 of Justice, which is like, well, that's actually not quite right. 183 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,919 The Department of Justice is in the executive branch and constitutionally that's under the leadership 184 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:01,679 of the president. And then under Biden, I'm just like, oh, 185 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,200 by the way, could you go jail everyone in the Republican Party? 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That's gold code dot Com slash Federalist or 210 00:14:58,799 --> 00:15:07,720 call eight five five six ten thirty. This goes to something deeper that you 211 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,639 know every time, or even I remember George Bush fired some prosecutors and it 212 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:16,320 was like he's politicizing the dojan and stuff like that that that the left ever 213 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,039 see. Yeah, and then Barack Obama does it and everyone's like, good, 214 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:22,480 that's a very good idea exactly. But it's not even the double standard. 215 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:24,639 It's that I think that liberals don't see their point of view and the 216 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:28,080 things they do as political. They see it as just right and normal and 217 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:33,320 the you know, the default position of decency, and then they get all 218 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:35,480 upset when others do it. So, I mean, I don't want to 219 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:41,399 politicize DJ, but you already. Yeah, when Trump like fired that preat 220 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:43,879 guy up in New York or maybe quit, and everyone was like this guy 221 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,000 is beyond reproach. He's so nonpartisan and impeccable, and like he's out there 222 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:54,000 wearing a pink hat and you know, destroys. It's like, oh, 223 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:58,279 was that the guy you really thought that Trump should? I thought of another 224 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,960 one this week. You know how when and Trump says something about a judge, 225 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:07,080 everyone it melts down. But Chuck Schumer can be on literally on the 226 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,039 steps of the Supreme Court, yelling and saying there's going to be repercussions for 227 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,279 a decision that he doesn't like, and that's just fine with everyone. You 228 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:18,759 know, this happens all the time. I'm so sick of talking about double 229 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:22,399 standards because we all know they exist. But I just don't know how to 230 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,399 reconcile this because if Trump means now, yeah, it does get back to 231 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,879 this media issue, so everyone recognizes that it's not even double standards. It's 232 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:37,639 really about the left controlling all of our institutions and engaging in hierarchical oppression so 233 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,679 you don't get to do things that they get to do because you are a 234 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,159 second class citizen. That's basically you know how it all breaks out. The 235 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:49,559 media are key to enforcing this false view that in Americans, you can be 236 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:52,879 first class citizens or second class citizens, and that the left is all first 237 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:59,559 class and conservatives are the second class. And they're getting more brazen about it, 238 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:03,960 which is I think what you're saying by bringing up this Joe Biden explicitly 239 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,079 issuing orders to the New York Times, the John Harwood thing, where he 240 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,920 was saying he was openly calling for propaganda. He was like, the problem 241 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:17,079 is we're not doing enough propaganda. As our corporate media have embraced this role 242 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:22,440 of propagandists. They're getting frustrated because even though they have unbelievable influence on our 243 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,440 elections through their propaganda and control over where our country's going, they don't have 244 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:32,279 complete control. And so they think the problem is that they need to somehow 245 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,559 do a better job with their propaganda and encourage other people. They don't want 246 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,480 any glimmer of truth coming out. They want it to be a complete information 247 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,839 state that they control, right. Yeah, I mean the story that they're 248 00:17:44,839 --> 00:17:52,000 complaining about, it's completely within the normal observation about what's going on. So 249 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,799 the whole the stories about Donald Trump in abortion, and they I wish I 250 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:56,680 had the language in front of you. Oh, it's right here. It 251 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:04,000 seems they say the reporter that he has effectively neutrals abortion as an issue during 252 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:10,440 the Republican primary because of the vagueness of his positions and how he is occupying 253 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,920 middle grounds of sorts, like it is the most watered down language, and 254 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,359 it's legitimately and I'm sorry, it's objectively true that he has done this because 255 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,000 Donald Trump's running in a general election right now and his opponents in the primary 256 00:18:23,079 --> 00:18:27,920 aren't. So they are talking to, you know, conservatives. But there 257 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,359 is no factual mistake there. This woman's talking about polls that exists. She's 258 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,160 talking about, you know, reality. And another part of this that I 259 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,200 always laugh at but I can never really articulate, I think, is that 260 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:45,200 Donald Trump is always portrayed as Hitler, like he's some kind of ideologically you 261 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,400 know, ideological creature that is far right, when it is not true. 262 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:55,200 Donald Trump is the most is probably the most moderate Republican running for president in 263 00:18:55,279 --> 00:18:57,079 a long long time. Like he has views on abortion that you have to 264 00:18:57,079 --> 00:19:00,559 admit this right are malleable. I mean, he will put judges in but 265 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:03,960 he's not going to when he runs. He's going to moderate to win the 266 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,240 presidency. He's more than maybe you know, others would have. I mean, 267 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:12,200 he is not like a hardcore old style conservative. He's more of a 268 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,799 you know, a big government kind of conservative. My point is that they 269 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:21,319 make him sound like he's Hitler when he's not ideologically Hitler at all. It's 270 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,240 just his disposition they don't like anyway. I'm writing this book right now on 271 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:27,799 the Supreme Court, and part of it deals with the Dobbs decision. So 272 00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:33,000 I've been reviewing media coverage at the time the league happened, and the media 273 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:40,720 coverage was straight up propaganda. It was saying that women would be killed by 274 00:19:40,759 --> 00:19:45,000 this Dobbs decision, that it was the worst, that returning the topic of 275 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:49,640 abortion to the people was an attack on democracy. And I'm not joking. 276 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:55,000 This is like in every major paper they say, letting the people have a 277 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:59,759 say an abortion say that they didn't have because of the anti democratic Roe v 278 00:19:59,839 --> 00:20:06,480 Way is somehow it's self anti democratic, so unbelievably inflammatory rhetoric and lies, 279 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,119 just straight up lies, and like this sort of bloodthirstiness to their lies because 280 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:17,480 of their love of abortion, and so they have they have polluted the country 281 00:20:17,519 --> 00:20:25,039 with their propaganda and they have made it so that people like the Roby Wade 282 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,680 made it impossible to have any protections for onborn life, but they would never 283 00:20:29,839 --> 00:20:33,319 admit that, so they would kind of phrase it as if it were much 284 00:20:33,319 --> 00:20:37,359 more moderate than it was dobbs which is actually a very moderate decision, nowhere 285 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,200 near where you pro lifers might wish in a purely outcome based situation and lets 286 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,960 people make the decision on a state by state basis. They say, it's 287 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,559 like the worst thing in the history of the world. It creates this false 288 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,559 understanding of reality that affects elections, and they did it because they knew it 289 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:56,079 would affect elections. You can tell the moment that Dobbsley happens that part of 290 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:03,279 it is about ginning people up for electors gains or possibly passing legislation, and 291 00:21:03,319 --> 00:21:11,440 the media are full participants in that. Donald Trump understands that he has been 292 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,240 speaking in a way that suggests that he understands the reality of the situation. 293 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:21,839 The facts of the matter is like if people were are being presented with news 294 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,400 and information accurately that Unfortunately, most Americans do believe that there should be some 295 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:32,880 allowance of abortion. They also believe there should be some protection for unborn children 296 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,640 and their mothers. That's just the fact. It's not people are not where 297 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,799 the extreme pro lifers are, and they are not where the extreme pro abortion 298 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:44,599 people are. They just aren't. And Donald Trump speaks to that not exactly 299 00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:47,480 where I would like him to be, because I don't think he cares about 300 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:55,880 this issue in the way that I do. But the media are just trying 301 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,839 to lie about it. I guess that's all I'm saying, Like what he's 302 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,799 doing is unfortunate kind of smart politics. I say unfortunately because I wish there 303 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:06,839 were much more protections for unmore and children and that our country was not so 304 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,839 much in love with killing their children and using women for sex and making them 305 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,640 deal with the consequences through abortion. I mean, we weren't going to talk 306 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,000 about this, but let's just dive into this for a second. I mean 307 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:22,759 the very word ban. Using the word ban constantly to explain limitations on abortion. 308 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,400 We're programmed to do that. But a fifteen week limitation is not a 309 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,799 band. But people hear ban, ban ban all the time. I think 310 00:22:30,079 --> 00:22:33,119 the way to think about that is, do you believe that a fifty five 311 00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:37,480 speed limit is a ban on driving, because if you do, you're an 312 00:22:37,559 --> 00:22:41,359 idiot. Right, So any limitation, we have limitations on almost all things. 313 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,960 To have a limitation is not a ban in any other kind of you 314 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,160 know, rhetoric that's used by media. Moreover, just the other side of 315 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,359 this is that if they were honest, the media would be talking about telling 316 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,720 us that the devout Catholic, which I recently looked up is used constantly in 317 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:03,640 the New York Times. Joe Biden believes that abortion should be unf unfettered right 318 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,759 until a baby hits a crib, you know, at home, even if 319 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:11,000 then, So what was I saying this last week about Nancy Pelosi believing that 320 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,200 a baby's life begins when the mother takes the baby home from the hospital. 321 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:19,599 The extremism of Democrats. Every single Democrat exept for like one or two, 322 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,119 voted to allow abortion at any point in pregnancy, for any reason, no 323 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,279 matter how barbaric like. That's extreme. Just objectively speaking, that's extreme. 324 00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:33,880 There are very few Republicans who would have a similar extreme viewpoint on the other 325 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,799 side, and yet the media lie about this. And by the way, 326 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,359 Republicans are awful and stupid. I don't want to keep going on my hatred 327 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:47,119 of that party, but their idiocy and how to handle this topic or how 328 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,359 to talk about this, or their stupidity of like, I'm scared to talk 329 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,400 about it, so I'm not going to talk about it, and then I'm 330 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,880 going to somehow win. They deserve every loss they have if they don't know 331 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,400 how to talk about this issue in a mildly oherent manner. Yeah, I 332 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,599 mean, I think we touched on that. Last week. I saw tons 333 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:07,519 of ads about abortion from the left, almost none refuting those points from the 334 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:10,720 right, and I think that's a problem. But let's just go back to 335 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:15,319 John Horowood, the tweet you were referring to. He and by the way, 336 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:18,160 this is the position of left wing pundits, this is the position of 337 00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:22,720 journal so called journalism professors who have destroyed that industry. He says that the 338 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,960 media has a responsibility to better convey two realities. One the US economy is 339 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,640 doing well, not poorly, and two Biden at eighty is handling the job 340 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:38,559 effectively right now now, I think the latter is objectively false and anyone can 341 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:44,440 see it. The US economy stuff is highly highly debatable, A real journalist 342 00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:48,799 would say, and this guy wasn't he didn't he wasn't he didn't he work 343 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,759 on one of the debates during the I forget anyway, So he did a 344 00:24:52,880 --> 00:25:00,119 Republican primary debate in four sixteen that was so bad, And I wrote a 345 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,960 piece before that that was like, what in God's name is John Harwood doing 346 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,079 moderating a debate? And that peace aged extremely well because he was the one 347 00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:11,839 who's like, are you a cartoon character? Donald Trump? Oh? I 348 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,839 hate him? Sorry, didn't he He's the one who got questions from the 349 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:21,680 DNC to ask Jeb one time, or the one the one that we know 350 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:23,839 one who coordinated with his party. No, I think they all do. 351 00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:30,039 Yes. Yeah, Well, anyway, a real reporter would say, listen, 352 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,200 bring people the truth about this, not you know, telling them what 353 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,920 to think. But anyway, So this is this is how it is. 354 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,359 Let's move on to something connected unless you have something else to talk about here. 355 00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:48,400 So just again, the broader issue that Harwood and Biden and other people 356 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:52,519 that share those politics are saying is the media need to not just what they've 357 00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:56,519 been saying since twenty fifteen, the media should not cover Donald Trump as if 358 00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:03,880 they were journalists. They need to cover Donald Trump as if he is unacceptable. 359 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,759 That's not journalism. And they say, oh, we have to talk 360 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:11,039 about the stakes in play, we have to talk about the stakes. Yes, 361 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,640 that's fine, talk about the stakes. The idea that talking about the 362 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,680 stakes means you don't need to be a journalist who understands that there are multiple 363 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,279 points of view on something is propaganda. It's not journalism. So I think 364 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:26,680 the stakes are really high. That's actually why I'm so upset with the Republican 365 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,319 Party right now. Like I look out at the world and I'm like, 366 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,440 things are very bad. We've got a really bad situation on our college campuses, 367 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:41,920 we have a really bad situation in our corporations giving aid to Marxist ideology. 368 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,279 We have an embrace on the left of racism. We have no border. 369 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:52,240 We have like an insane largest in history kind of like invasion of illegal 370 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:59,799 foreigners into the country. We also have like other issues with immigration that are 371 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:03,839 kind of destabilizing that reflect all these things. We have a very bad economy. 372 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,759 We have a foreign policy led by people whose only thing you can point 373 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:12,839 to is like a history of failure. We have it's like very very bad. 374 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,920 We have a broken Congress, we have this administrative state, like everything 375 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,559 is very bad, and the Republican Party is kind of like, ah, 376 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,839 what are you going to do? Oh, I didn't even talk about how 377 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:27,799 the Department of Justice and every Democrat ag is trying to put political opponents in 378 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:33,240 prison, like we are Soviet Russia or Venezuela or Cuba, and the Republican 379 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,839 Party doesn't even talk about these things. So that's why I'm so frustrated at 380 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:42,680 the Republican Party, because the stakes are so high. The idea that because 381 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,279 the quote unquote the stakes are high, you get to ignore like your job 382 00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:52,200 as a journalist, and they're not journalists, and there are very few journalists 383 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,400 who are who actually, you know, do that in any meaningful way is 384 00:27:55,519 --> 00:28:00,359 insane. Yes, the stakes are high. The stakes are really high with 385 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,720 what happens when you elect Democrats, and it's very very bad. And I'm 386 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,480 not a super fan of what happens when you vote Republican either. But nothing 387 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:17,960 about their approach here suggests that they have learned anything other than support for censorship 388 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:23,200 and authoritarianism. They are projecting what they are when they attack other people for 389 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,440 being authoritarianism. Yeah, I mean, I have been mad for a long 390 00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:34,079 time, because the Left makes me want to defend Donald Trump all the time, 391 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,400 who I hate because let me tell you something the other day, yesterday, 392 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,519 I believe the Biden administration released another ten billion dollars to the Iranian terror 393 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:47,839 state. Right, is Donald Trump going to do that? I don't know. 394 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Is Donald Trump going to make me pay someone else's loans through unconstitutional circumvention 395 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,039 of law and just dictating it. No, I don't know that he's going 396 00:28:57,119 --> 00:29:03,960 to do that. Will he tell newspapers what to write, maybe, but 397 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,720 they won't listen. The New York Times is going to listen to Joe Biden. 398 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,279 I guarantee you there's going to be a story in the New York Times 399 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:11,400 within the next week or two that's going to say something that's going to be 400 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,400 about abortion and is going to like stay, you know, frame it in 401 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:22,319 the exact argument that they that they want so well, you know, so, 402 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,559 I think I think Democrats are turned authoritarian, especially on speech and other 403 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,160 issues. And you know, I don't think Donald Trump. I think Donald 404 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,279 Trump maybe is poses unique problems in different ways, but not you know, 405 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:37,400 I don't don't think he's any worse. I mean, they can yell, 406 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,680 they yell at me all the time about this, but I just don't. 407 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:45,519 I think bind's far worse. It's a far bigger authoritarian and it's far worse 408 00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,119 for the United States. I wish I had better choices, but we don't. 409 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,440 These are the choices. One thing that's a challenge, I think is 410 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,680 that because the left, because Democrats really control our media complex and every institution, 411 00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:03,519 there is this information disparity. And one way that that plays out, 412 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:08,920 I was thinking about it with Joe Biden and Democrats and the media all reinforce 413 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:17,119 the same message, which is Republicans are an extreme threat to the country. 414 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,440 So they'll always say Donald Trump and extreme maga Republicans. Now, like you 415 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:26,519 think about what MAGA means, it's make America great again. The idea that 416 00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:30,039 it's an epithet is weird, but it's definitely an epithet on the left, 417 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,079 and that's why they also abbreviate it because it wouldn't sound good if you. 418 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,680 I don't know, but what messaging do Republicans have against the threat posed by 419 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:44,400 Democrats and the Democrat media complex and all the different Democrat groups that are kind 420 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,079 of running the country into the ground right now? They don't really speak that 421 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:49,839 way about them. They don't talk about them as if they're a threat, 422 00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:57,680 and there needs to be consistent, unified messaging, particularly given the information warfare 423 00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:02,519 disparity that's in play. You know, you have the Left controlling every single 424 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:11,240 major media institution, the corporations support these major media institutions. You have an 425 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,640 echo chamber where they're all just like you know, really doing a good job 426 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,680 of just dominating the airspace, which allows them to control the ground game. 427 00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:27,799 And on the anti Democrat party spectrum, you just don't have that. I 428 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:32,880 mean, partly it's systematic in that there's not the funding or support for the 429 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:40,400 media organizations. There's a censorship industrial complex that artificially and dramatically suppresses news and 430 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,480 information that pushes back against these people. But also I think there's like a 431 00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:49,440 weakness and timidity, Like if every single Republican, every single day, we're 432 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:56,039 out there decrying the weaponization of the Department of Justice, it would push through, 433 00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:59,440 and then you could also have advances on the ground game. In terms 434 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,680 of actual oversight of that organization. I don't think Mitch McConnell has ever spoken 435 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,480 a word about it. I don't even know if he's currently truly alive right 436 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:13,319 now. But that's the leader of the Republic, as a top Republican in 437 00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:17,480 the country, he's actually a messaging failure. Like the only thing, Oh, 438 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,720 this great note we got from a listener, maybe I just got it 439 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,920 was talking about how disheartening it is to vote Republican because of how ineffective they 440 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:32,279 are, And he was saying that the only time he can see Republicans like 441 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,960 actually be excited about messaging is when there's some new war that needs funding. 442 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:40,839 Then they're out there and they're pushing it and they're all unified and it's great, 443 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:44,880 But on any other issue that actually matters to their voters, they're just 444 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:50,559 a mess I have a lot to say here. I'm just going to say 445 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,680 one thing quickly about the initial point about media and the left. I think 446 00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:01,440 they pathologize every republic position so they don't have to debate, meaning they treat 447 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,720 it as some kind of weird, fascistic thing to say, be pro life, 448 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,160 which has been a long term position of the right long before Donald Trump. 449 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:13,759 Or they treat, you know, someone not wanting to fund a certain 450 00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:15,559 program as if it's weird so that they don't have to debate, and there's 451 00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:20,960 no debate because of the media, so it creates this. They have an 452 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:27,200 echo chamber, and they're fine with that because they run the institutions. Okay, 453 00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:30,759 you know, I just disagree a little bit about the report. I 454 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:36,400 agree with everything you said about breaking through on the Biden administration's abuse of power 455 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,480 and the Justice Department and all that, but I don't know that that's the 456 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:44,640 Even if you broke through, I don't know that most people or most voters 457 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:50,400 would care enough about that. Like I don't think that motivates voters as much. 458 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,200 I think we saw in the last election that the most important issue, 459 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,759 in fact, these sorts of issues, even abortion, is not even in 460 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:59,400 the top ten concerns either as foreign policy. When you look, they care 461 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,279 about ECONO, they care about the economy, They care about themselves in their 462 00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:07,400 lives right now, and Republicans do not have a economic message anymore. It's 463 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:13,760 completely diluted. It's all over the place. Some people just sound like water 464 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,559 down Democrats. Other people they don't even talk about it. I didn't see 465 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,519 ads running where I live. I didn't even see one about the economy at 466 00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:29,719 all. And I think the issues like crime, which is rising the border which