1 00:00:11,199 --> 00:01:29,239 At a book. If you'd like to be able to listen to the show 2 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,760 without ads and have full access to bonus content, that's an option. To 3 00:01:33,799 --> 00:01:41,560 find out how, please go to Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's 4 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:46,519 guest is Joe. Joe, Welcome to the show. Thank you, Vick. 5 00:01:46,599 --> 00:01:49,120 It's a pleasure to be here tonight. Well, it's great having you, 6 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,000 not for the reasons that we're going to talk about, but it's still 7 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,719 great to have you, so thank you for your time. I appreciate your 8 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,640 time and how you've helped. Oh, you're welcome. Joe. Please give 9 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:07,680 us a brief file on yourself. I am a sixty five year old retired 10 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:12,919 registered nurse. I was a nurse for forty years. I absolutely think I 11 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:15,560 was born to be a nurse. As a little child growing up, I 12 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:21,159 always had a little injured animal of some type that I was nursing back to 13 00:02:21,199 --> 00:02:24,319 health. It was second nature to me, and I loved being a nurse, 14 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,560 not only for the challenge of it, but you were meeting people who 15 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,319 were at their worst point in life, whether it was an accident not expected, 16 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,840 or a major surgery coming or a death in the family, and you 17 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:42,520 could be there and be their strength and somebody that they could lean on, 18 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,520 and it just it was an honor for me to be able to be there 19 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,719 for people like that. I really enjoyed my calling. It was sad when 20 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:53,680 I had to give it up. Well, I'm sure it was sad. 21 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,080 Yeah, if you ask me, I think you're right. I think you 22 00:02:55,159 --> 00:02:59,360 were born to do that sort of thing. You're so loving and caring and 23 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,919 such. He's a good person. I'm not surprised to hear you say that. 24 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:07,199 Thank you. You're welcome. Joe. From what I understand, you 25 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:10,560 think your mom might have had a dog man encounter of her own. Why 26 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,599 do you think that. Well, we were talking one time about scary movies 27 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,240 and I think I was around maybe twelve or thirteen, and she said, 28 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,360 well, you know, we didn't have those when I was a kid growing 29 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:28,199 up, but I had something happened to me one time that I think when 30 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,719 made anybody scared. And I said, what was that? And my mother 31 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,000 was a tomboy. She grew up in the hills of Arkansas. She was 32 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:42,879 a true hillbilly. There was like thirteen in the family, and she could 33 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:46,319 outrun most of her brothers and she loved basketball. I mean, she was 34 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,680 a sports girl. And they had an outhouse that they had to use, 35 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:54,080 and it was set back away from their house, and so she went out 36 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,520 one night about one o'clock in the morning. Had her little kerosene landage, 37 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,879 and she went there and they had a sade that they kept in it, 38 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,960 not only to kind of help hold the door closed, but sometimes snakes would 39 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,199 be in there, and so it was nothing to her just to take that 40 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,800 and just hit it and cut its head off. I mean, she was 41 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,040 all bomboy. And she went out there one night. It was a full 42 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:19,279 moon, so she was staying pretty good. She took the lantern that had 43 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:24,279 hardly any kerosene in it because she could see the trail, and she got 44 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:29,040 out there and was doing her business, and something jumped and landed on the 45 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,879 top of this outhouse, and it startled her because she couldn't imagine what could 46 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:36,639 get up there so easy. And it was walking around on the top of 47 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,360 it, and you know, she could tell it was big and heavy, 48 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,000 and it was sounding like it was on two feet and she was thinking, 49 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,519 now that can't be I mean, we're up here. It could be a 50 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,800 mountain lion, you know, but I would think I would be hearing four. 51 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:54,240 And it walked back and forth on the top of that and she could 52 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:59,240 hear it kind of like huffing a little bit, and it jumped down and 53 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,839 she could hear coming around the outhouse on the outside, and she was getting 54 00:05:01,879 --> 00:05:05,800 kind of spooked. Most of the time, animals don't act like that up 55 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,199 there. And it got over by the door and it kind of scratched on 56 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:15,399 a little bit. She was holding that door shut, and so she was 57 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:17,360 pretty concerned. She thought, well, I'm not going to leave until this 58 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:23,199 thing gets tired and starts leaving itself. And it kind of got quiet. 59 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,040 She thought, well, maybe this is the time, and then it landed 60 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:29,600 back up on top of it again. So she thought this thing was trying 61 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,079 to outwait me. So she thought, I can play that game. I'll 62 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,079 just stay in here till morning if I have to. So she was sitting 63 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:40,319 there pretty quiet, and it's kind of getting quiet, and then her lander 64 00:05:40,399 --> 00:05:44,360 ran out of the kerosene. So now she's in the dark, and she's 65 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,800 got this spade and she's thinking, you know, this is going to be 66 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,720 my weapon. So she hadn't heard anything for a while, and so she 67 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,079 opened up the door slowly. It had a bolt that you would just slide 68 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,600 down, so she lifted that up and she pushed the door out and grabbed 69 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,600 a spade, and as she does, she hears a sound and it's been 70 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,040 up on top this whole time, and it leans down to kind of get 71 00:06:08,079 --> 00:06:11,759 a look at her. And it shocked her because it looked like a wolf, 72 00:06:12,079 --> 00:06:14,959 you know, not a mountain lion. And she took that and she 73 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,000 said, she hit it as hard as she could, like a plugger hitting 74 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,879 a baseball for a home run, with that spade right in the nose, 75 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,680 and it led out a roar and kind of went backwards, and she started 76 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,319 running like a deer. And she got to the house and she could hear 77 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,319 it coming, and as she turned around to look, this thing went from 78 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,480 being on four feet up on two feet and had its arms out like it 79 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:43,120 was going to grab her. So she jumped in and slammed the door into 80 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:46,959 it, running up the steps to her room. Now she had five sisters 81 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,560 and they all had their own little bed, and they had two little drawers 82 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:58,040 under each bed, one for their shoes and saws and the other for their 83 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,759 clothes. So she jumped into her bed nobody was awake, and pulled her 84 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:06,959 covers up oward and she's shaking. She doesn't know what in the world she'd 85 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:13,000 have fought and dan she hears the door open downstairs, and she realizes that 86 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,680 in her fear and hurry, she didn't stop to drop the bolt down to 87 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:24,240 lock that door. Now this thing is in the house and she can hear 88 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:29,360 it coming up the stairs, and she's thinking it's following my scent, and 89 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:32,279 she's really scared, and she's got the covers up real tight. She thinks 90 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:34,800 she can hear it an off horse. And then it gets to her room 91 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:41,120 and now she only feels like there's only two steps, so she's thinking it's 92 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,240 doing that thing again, and it literally crawls up from the foot of her 93 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:50,959 bed onto her bed and comes up until it's actually got its nose against her 94 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:57,480 face and it's breathing in and it's almost like the message being given, I 95 00:07:57,519 --> 00:08:01,279 could kill you right now. I could have killed you out there, you 96 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:05,399 know, don't ever hit me again. She def like feels that's the thought 97 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,600 being given to her. And it stayed on her for a while, and 98 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:13,160 then it slowly backed off and she heard it go down and go, and 99 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,680 then she heard the front door open and close, and she was so terrified 100 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:22,680 that she didn't tell anybody what happened, especially when her dad woke up the 101 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,759 next day in her real life that whoever was out there didn't close it, 102 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:31,839 and the dogs had got in and ate a lot of their food. So 103 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,360 she definitely wasn't going to own up to it then. But you know, 104 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,960 she always said, sometimes I wonder if I was just dreaming, And she 105 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,440 said, but you know, that was so scary, and I don't understand 106 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,039 it. Never saw anything like that again, but I certainly didn't try to 107 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:48,840 go to the bathroom and night anymore either. And so after I started learning 108 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,279 about dog man, I thought, you know, that's what that was. 109 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,840 It sounds like it. Going from four feet to two feet had to be. 110 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,039 I wish she was still alive so I could tell her that was a 111 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,120 dog man. Mom, It wasn't a dream, It was a dog man. 112 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,639 It sure was. Holy cow, what she must have gone through. 113 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:16,679 That is horrible. That is awful. You had your first dog man encounter 114 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:20,080 one night when you were seventeen, Jill, and it frightened you so much 115 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,039 you jumped into bed with your parents. Had you heard about cryptids before you 116 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,279 had that experience, And if you had, what were your thoughts on them? 117 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:33,000 I had not. I had not. We didn't even have a TV 118 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,840 when I was young. I mean, it was all work. We worked 119 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:41,120 for everything we had. We had a little farm and it was not doing 120 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:46,360 well and we were trying so hard. I had two older brothers and they 121 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:52,000 were eleven and thirteen when I was born, and they weren't expecting any more 122 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,279 kids. They were kind of disappointed actually that they had another child because it's 123 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:58,960 going to be more expense. And then when my dad realized that I was 124 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,080 a girl, he was very upset. He said, wish it had been 125 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,759 a boy, because you know, they could work harder and help more. 126 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,480 And here he is, you know, he's got a daughter. What's he 127 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,639 going to do with a daughter. So it always made me feel, you 128 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,200 know, kind of bad about that. So I quit going by Joyce when 129 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,360 I was ten, and I started going by Joe because it didn't sound so 130 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:28,200 girly. And I tried my best to keep up with my brothers on everything, 131 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:31,600 every kind of chore, and one thing that my older brother always did, 132 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:37,080 he tried to scare me and if I kind of yelled out a little 133 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,759 for something. He would tease me and say, you sound like a girl. 134 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,960 So it was kind of an ongoing thing with him that you can't show 135 00:10:43,039 --> 00:10:48,279 fear and you definitely don't scream out. So ironically, when I went and 136 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,679 jumped in the middle of my mom and dad and bet afraid, that was 137 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,159 a big deal because I had never tried to show fear before. So that 138 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,480 lets you know how much it rocked my world of my own rule of showing 139 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:05,200 no fear. Well, you did, but it's totally understandable when you consider 140 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,240 what happened to you that first encounter. That was awfully intense, not as 141 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:15,480 intense as the later ones, but it definitely get your motor running. How 142 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,480 long did it take after you had that first encounter, though, Joe, 143 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:22,399 before you found out that they're actually called dog men? Oh, it was 144 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:28,600 decades. I only found out, I'm going to say, four years ago. 145 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,440 I had no idea what to call it. I always thought it was 146 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,919 maybe some kind of a werewoof, But then where was your supposed to be 147 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,960 in the movies only or a demon from help? I wasn't sure what it 148 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:48,120 was. And then I actually stumbled onto some information about a dog man. 149 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:52,960 I had a friend that was listening to some podcasts and got me started kind 150 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,600 of listening, and I was going, hey, wait a second, this 151 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:01,320 sounds kind of familiar. And then I got lucky and found yours, and 152 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,559 that's when I really started learning, because you know so much about it. 153 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:09,639 It's amazing. And now this thing had a name, and it made it 154 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,840 more reasonable for me to know how to deal with it, because before you 155 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:18,440 know, how do you wrap your mind around something that you can't even describe 156 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,440 what it is or how it exists or why it exists. You can't. 157 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:28,200 And I think that's why it traumatized me as much as it did for as 158 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,320 long as it did. Well, that's totally understandable. Yeah, like you 159 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,240 said, when you can hang a name on something that you're afraid of, 160 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:39,679 that does help. It's not going to work wonders necessarily, but it does 161 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:43,720 help at least to a certain degree. So I can understand why you say 162 00:12:43,759 --> 00:12:46,440 that. All right, Joe, I know it's not going to be easy 163 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,480 to talk about these experiences due to how traumatic they were, But in your 164 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:54,279 own good time, when you're ready, give us every last detail that comes 165 00:12:54,279 --> 00:13:01,559 to mind. We'll do well. As I told you, I grew up 166 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,240 trying to be as tough as I could and not show fear, just so 167 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:11,320 that I had as much merit in my father's eyes as my two brothers. 168 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:18,879 And I really convinced myself that I didn't get scared. And I decided at 169 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:22,559 seventeen that I wanted to become a nurse. And like I said, I 170 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,360 had always taken care of little animals and I just knew that's what I wanted 171 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:28,879 to be. So I went and applied and they said, well, normally 172 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:33,720 we don't take women in at seventeen, but you seem to be a very 173 00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:37,960 mature seventeen and you will be eighteen before you graduate, so we're willing to 174 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,559 give you a try on this. And I said, I will not let 175 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,559 you down, and so I started my training. Well, it was harder 176 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,039 on me than I thought, because you can't be a kid. You know, 177 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:52,879 when you're going in to seeing the things that you're doing and learning how 178 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:56,519 to do these things like on code teams and stuff, it's time to be 179 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:01,399 all adult. And so I had a couple of friends that I still had 180 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,399 left over home school I had quit and got my ged so I could work 181 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:09,440 on the farm because we were getting close to going under. And I had 182 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,440 a male friend that I was seeing on and off a little bit, and 183 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:18,679 so we would get together and go out and eat and just ride around and 184 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:20,000 laugh and I could kind of be a kid. And then I would come 185 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:26,120 in in the evenings, probably about ten thirty eleven at night, go in, 186 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,320 lay down, get some sleep, and I would get up at three 187 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,000 o'clock in the morning and start studying for a test I had that day, 188 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,279 so it was fresh in my mind, and I would go in and take 189 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,919 the test, and I was doing the four point oh average, so I 190 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,519 felt like that was working for me pretty good. Well. I came in 191 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:48,679 one night and the house that we had was way back in the middle of 192 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:54,080 nothing, just woods and things all around you, very little acreage around it, 193 00:14:54,320 --> 00:15:00,279 and there was a little stream that came off the Nioshia River and it 194 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,240 would flood easy. So this house was set up on cinderblocks before the foundation 195 00:15:05,759 --> 00:15:07,960 because it had flooded into it before. And it was a very very old 196 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:11,039 house. So I would come in at night. Of course, you're out 197 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,440 in the country. There's no street lives or anything to help you. It's 198 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:20,639 pitch black, and my mother had a yellow bulb out on the front porch 199 00:15:22,039 --> 00:15:26,200 that's sposed don't let bugs come in, and that was the only thing I 200 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,200 had to try to get into the house safely. Well. I was going 201 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:35,600 up that one night and there was something that made this unbelievable sound in the 202 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,960 rush and the trees, about thirty feet from the front door, and I 203 00:15:41,039 --> 00:15:43,960 stopped and I looked over, and I thought, what in the world could 204 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,840 be making it sound that big? And it sounded like it was only on 205 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:52,960 two feet, and so I literally walked over to the edge of that porch 206 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:58,519 and I leaned out that direction, trying to see what the use of that 207 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:03,799 little yellow bulb, what was making that kind of sound, And it got 208 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:10,039 quiet. Whatever it was quit moving, and then I realized, Wow, 209 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,799 everything's quiet. There's nothing making any sound. And that was before I learned 210 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:21,360 on programs like yours that that means there's probably something out there that you don't 211 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,639 want to be upside with. So I wasn't afraid at all, and in 212 00:16:25,679 --> 00:16:30,360 my little seventeen year old brain, I decided that this was a buck or 213 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:33,240 something that had been trying to get through there and had kind of jumped up 214 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,720 and maybe got his horns hooked into some branches of this tree, because it 215 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:42,080 was quite a ways up on this tree that the branches were moving, and 216 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,120 he was jerking and trying to get you know, unhooked, and it was 217 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,399 up on his back feet. And that's how I could justify the sound of 218 00:16:51,559 --> 00:16:56,480 two feet and it being high in the tree. So I literally clapped my 219 00:16:56,679 --> 00:17:00,080 hands and yelled get out of here, just as loud and as gruff as 220 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,360 I could, trying to make it jump and maybe help it get loose. 221 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,839 And you know, there was a little bit of a oh, and I 222 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,000 thought, wow, that didn't sound like anything like you would think a deer 223 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:15,799 would do. But I also told myself, well, at night, it 224 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:19,079 all seemed bigger than better than they are, because you can't see them, 225 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,000 you only had sound, so it didn't scare me. I literally walked on 226 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,519 in the house, went to bed, and forgot about it. Two nights 227 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:33,960 later, we were having a storm moving in and I always loved to lay 228 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,559 in bed and watch the storms. I watched the lightning. The house that 229 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,559 we were in, it had real tall, narrow windows, and that's because 230 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:48,640 it was built so far back that you know where they had just kerosene lanyards 231 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,599 to help them that they had the windows tall, so no matter what time 232 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,640 of day, you could catch the sun and help light that room up better. 233 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,039 And I was in a bedroom that was the back wall of the house, 234 00:18:02,079 --> 00:18:06,200 and I had two windows with about a two and a half foot space 235 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:11,640 in between them of walls, and one lit up area that was my bed, 236 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,400 and the other one was strategically put to where it would light up the 237 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,200 hallway, you know, so you didn't have a dark hall you were going 238 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:23,680 down in the early evenings. So I woke up and heard the thunder and 239 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:27,839 some of the branches on the metal roof, and I was going to enjoy 240 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,000 it. I didn't have school the next day, and I could enjoy, 241 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,880 you know, the lightning. And as I kind of turned around and get 242 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:40,960 my pillows situated, and it lightened, and I noticed in the left window 243 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,559 that there was something blocking it. And I couldn't understand, you know, 244 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,960 what could be blocking the lightning coming, And so I actually set up it, 245 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:53,279 kind of scooted over and putting my feet over on the floor, and 246 00:18:53,319 --> 00:18:59,279 I'm looking at this window kind of startled, and it lightens again, and 247 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,119 sure Only about the top twenty five percent or thirty percent of that window was 248 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,839 lighting up with the lightning. The rest of it was black. There was 249 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:15,559 something blocking it. Now, remember this house is up on cinderblocks, so 250 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:21,559 what could be blocking at that tall It would have to be eight nine foot 251 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,160 off the ground, and I can't comprehend what could do that. So of 252 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,680 course the first thing I thought was, it's my brother. He's out there. 253 00:19:32,079 --> 00:19:34,039 He's got something up, trying to make it look big in the window, 254 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,440 and he's going to try to scare me. I think I'm going to 255 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,680 go over and grab a hold of this curtain and jerk it back and tell 256 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:47,240 him I'm not scared. I know it's you. The curtains that I had, 257 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,839 they were white panels, and they were fan you're almost sheer because I 258 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,039 didn't have to worry about anybody looking in my windows. We were in the 259 00:19:57,079 --> 00:20:03,200 middle of nowhere, so I could see that it was something black that I 260 00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:07,200 knew he couldn't see me because of the lightning. So I should be able 261 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,880 to be the one to go up and jerk it back and scare him. 262 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,920 Well, I get up and I start to kind of walk that way a 263 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,640 little bit and it lightens again, and I'm thinking, no, there's that 264 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,119 way he could have something and beholding it and doing that well with it. 265 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:29,319 And then in my again, my little seventeen year old brain, I'm thinking, 266 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,759 well, there's a shed back there. Maybe my dad has seemed something 267 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:36,880 up against it. And when it's fightening, because it's not directly on top 268 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,559 of this yet, it's blocking it and it's just reflecting into my window, 269 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,680 and maybe that's what it is. So I got up and I went on 270 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:48,079 down to the hallway, went to the bathroom, got a drink of water, 271 00:20:48,599 --> 00:20:52,799 and as I'm coming back into the room, it lightens again, and 272 00:20:53,000 --> 00:21:03,559 I've literally stopped mid stride because I'm in shock. This big black shadow is 273 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,039 now over in the right window, the one that wins up with the hallway, 274 00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:11,680 and I'm wondering, how in the world, you know, that shadow 275 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:18,599 from the shed could be looking like it's walking that one now, And I 276 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,200 kind of eased up a little bit, and I'm trying to understand this. 277 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:26,519 So I decide I'm going to go over by my bed and go up and 278 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:30,880 see if I can look around and see, you know, what is causing 279 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:36,799 this shadow. And as I go across to get even with the other window. 280 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:44,079 It slides back over with me. Now I'm starting to get a little 281 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:51,440 concerned about this because that was such a smooth glide. I know that's not 282 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:57,359 my brother. He's not that coordinated. And I'm starting to get scared. 283 00:21:59,279 --> 00:22:06,079 The person who does not allow themselves to get scared is getting scared. So 284 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,480 I stepped up a little bit closer because now I'm wanting to see what it 285 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,079 is, you know, what is going on. And I get about a 286 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,640 foot and a half from that window, and I'm thinking I can go ahead 287 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,880 and reach out and pull it back and look, you know, I'm inside. 288 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:30,079 I'm safe, even though my body obviously is not believing what my brain 289 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,519 is saying, because my knees are starting to shake. And I'm thinking it's 290 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:37,440 probably a good thing that I just went to the bathroom, because the way 291 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,839 my body is getting scared, I might not have held that too well. 292 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:48,559 And it lightens again, now this time with one little glide it because I'm 293 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:53,839 only about a foot away. Now it comes down. It's like hunkers down 294 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,240 and it's even with me. Heythewise, Now that's got me scared, because 295 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:06,039 that tells me this thing can see me. Even though it's dark in here, 296 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,240 it obviously is getting a really good look at me. It's keeping even 297 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:17,559 with me. And now it's the same height as me, and I'm not 298 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,839 moving. I don't think I can move. I feel like I'm just nailed 299 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,920 to that spot, and I'm just focused as the lightnings coming in, trying 300 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:32,200 to see what in the world am I dealing with? What is this? 301 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,440 And I hear it against the window, just a little gun of a hit 302 00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:41,559 to it, and then I think I hear that it's taking a deep breath, 303 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,440 and I'm thinking, my god, this thing is trying to get my 304 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:52,440 scent. And now I'm wondering, is this what was out in the trees? 305 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,640 Could this be what was making this sound? Is this what I yelled 306 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,880 at it, clapped my hand and said, real mean, get out of 307 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:07,279 here? Did I make it mad? You know? I'm not feeling like 308 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,440 such a big, brave person anymore. And the lightning's coming in, the 309 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:18,599 storm's getting closer, and as I'm standing there trying to see with this next 310 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:22,039 splash of lightning, this thing is still cowered down, but it reaches up 311 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:26,240 with its right arm and it's reaching up to the top of the window, 312 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:34,119 and I am in shock. There is not a paw. There is a 313 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:40,640 hand, and it's a huge hand. It looks about like the size of 314 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,720 the hand that you would think would be on like a silver back gorilla. 315 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:56,559 It's huge. There's five digits and each digit has this black claw that has 316 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:02,599 to be two and a half inches easy with just a flight curve into it. 317 00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:06,039 It's not straight out like mine now would be. It's got a slight 318 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,960 curve in And I remember thinking, Wow, if that got a hold of 319 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,240 you with that curve, you're not getting out of that grip until it's ready 320 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,599 for you to be out of that grip. And my knees really started shaking 321 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:26,720 hard. And then I think I hear it like clawing into the wood of 322 00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:33,359 that window outside, and I'm getting really scared. I'm thinking this thing's trying 323 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,599 to figure out how to get this window off, and then all it's God 324 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,839 is just this glass and what if it comes right on through it and gets 325 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,480 me? And I'm wanting to run, but my body is not following my 326 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:51,920 command to run. I'm just there, so I don't know what to do, 327 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,799 you know, I can't think. And now the lightning's right on us, 328 00:25:56,319 --> 00:26:00,839 and it comes down and it hits a tree tree in the backyard, 329 00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:07,599 and when it does, it takes down a branch. Other's fireballs dancing everywhere. 330 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,920 And right after it did that, have you ever seen lightning that goes 331 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,559 like do too too too? Two? They're just so fast together that it's 332 00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:21,559 almost like daylight because it keeps it lit up well. As that was occurring, 333 00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:26,319 this thing turns to look up at the tree branch that's coming down. 334 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,359 I guess it's wondering where it's going to land. And that's when I got 335 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:37,240 my look at the side profile of this and that's when my world changed, 336 00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:42,200 as I knew it was never going to be the same again. This thing 337 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:49,759 had a wide head. It looked like a wolf, but it was huge 338 00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:56,680 head on this thing, it had ears like a German shepherd or like a 339 00:26:56,759 --> 00:27:02,119 Doberman, had been cut on the top points on it, probably four to 340 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:11,559 five inches phone tufts of hair in the ends of the ears. This nose 341 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,559 on this thing, this muzzle was so much longer than anything I'd ever seen 342 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:22,319 on the dog or pictures of wolfs, and it was gigantic. And the 343 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,640 teeth, oh my gosh, the teeth they had to be two to half 344 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,559 in it, maybe three inches long, and the canines were even longer than 345 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,799 that. And they really showed up. I mean, they were a brilliant 346 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:41,480 white. You knew you were looking at that. The fur looked like it 347 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:47,319 was all black. I couldn't see any lighter areas, whereas again it was 348 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,240 flashes of light. But you know, I could tell with the side profile 349 00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:56,640 and the arm they'd been reaching up. It was big, it was strong, 350 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:03,480 it was muscle bound. And I took off and I went running, 351 00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:08,160 and I went and jumped onto the couch and I covered my head up as 352 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:14,240 tight as I could, and I was shaking. I couldn't believe what I 353 00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:18,000 had just saw. And I didn't know if I should tell anybody, because 354 00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:21,400 again I didn't want them to make it fun of me. I didn't want 355 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,680 them to know I was afraid. But I suddenly changed my plans. I 356 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,039 told him it was getting towards the end of my first year, my LPN 357 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,720 year, and I wasn't going to go out anymore at night. I was 358 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:37,680 going to stay home and study. And the truth was, I wasn't going 359 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,400 to be outside in the nighttime with that thing. I had no idea what 360 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,960 I had seen. The next day, before I went to school, I 361 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:52,240 went walking back there, trying to convince myself that this hadn't happened. The 362 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,880 old tree branch was down on the ground. As I looked up at that 363 00:28:56,039 --> 00:29:00,559 window, I could see deep gouges in that window, and it looked fresh. 364 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,599 And as I looked down on the ground, I could see the black 365 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,000 paint that was the color of that wood trim. There was crumbles of it 366 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,079 down on the ground, and I thought, no, that wasn't a dream. 367 00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:21,160 This happened. So I got scared to be in my room. I 368 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,000 felt like I had angered this thing. So what I would do if I 369 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:30,119 would come in and I would lay down because it was daylight, and take 370 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,039 like a three hour nap. I would get my clothes for the next day, 371 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:37,079 hang him on the door knob of the room, and that I would 372 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:42,440 go into the living room and be on the couch and I would sleep there 373 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:45,640 till my alarm went off at three, and I would get up and study 374 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:52,039 on the couch at the lamp well. Unfortunately, the couch and the lamp 375 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,279 was right across the hall from my mom and dad's room, and my dad 376 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,599 told me you're interrupting my sleep. You're going to have to go back to 377 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,000 your room. And I said, oh, I don't want to do that. 378 00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:06,240 He was why, and I said, I don't know. I just 379 00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:11,119 I just need a break. And he said, well, you can't study 380 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:12,279 there with it, and I said, I know, I'll go to the 381 00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:17,240 kitchen. Now. To me, that seemed like a really safe option, 382 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,000 but in reality, the back wall of the house that was my wall to 383 00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:29,680 my room it formed like the letter L with the kitchen. So actually moving 384 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,759 from my window to the kitchen window only took about six feet on the outside, 385 00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:37,359 but because you had to go down a hallway and through the living room 386 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:40,440 and then into the kitchen, it seemed like it was a lot further. 387 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:47,799 To me, this kitchen was shaped like a shoe box. You went in 388 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,759 on one short edge. The long sides they had windows that ran all the 389 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:57,640 way down again, so you have plenty of light. And the windows were 390 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,319 at the top. Now it was a typical kitchen window size, and my 391 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,319 mom had solid white panels. On the bottom pane there was a gap, 392 00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:12,920 and then at the top she had a ruffle, and so you would have 393 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,000 to be again eight and a half nine foot to look into that house because 394 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,920 it set up on cinderblocks to see anybody, so we didn't even have blinds 395 00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:27,839 or shades or anything for that. It was open like that all the time 396 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,799 and it felt very safe. And then there was an outside door on the 397 00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:37,920 other short end. So I'm studying and I would look at that white curtain 398 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:41,359 and I would picture it as a page and me writing down the answers to 399 00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:45,720 a question I was asking myself and was really enjoying. It. Had a 400 00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:51,480 little lamp on there I was studying with because the kitchen had a big fluorescent 401 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:53,839 light. There were three of them that went down the kitchen, and you 402 00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,839 didn't want to turn that on and be way too bright at night. So 403 00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:02,319 the lamp worked just fine, and I was studying. It was about three 404 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:07,079 o'clock in the morning, and all of a sudden, I had a brand 405 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,759 new sensation I'd never had, and that was that the hair stood up on 406 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,200 the back of my neck, and I had never had that sensation before. 407 00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:23,240 And I stopped and I'm thinking, what is this? And then all of 408 00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:29,640 a sudden, somehow, and don't ask me how I knew, but I 409 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:35,240 knew there was something out the window behind me, and I felt like it 410 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:39,880 was looking at me, which again would seem impossible, but it was like 411 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,960 I could feel it. And then all of a sudden, I heard this 412 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:53,000 growl, and it was the most deep, knine sounding, guttural growl that 413 00:32:53,079 --> 00:33:00,400 you could ever imagine. It was like, Oh my god, how could 414 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:07,480 anything sound that big and that deep? I mean, it was unbelievable. 415 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:15,240 I couldn't move. I remember feeling like I was frozen to the spot. 416 00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:20,519 I couldn't even put the pencil down that was in my hand. I was 417 00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:27,039 beyond terrified. And this thing growled again, and it got louder, and 418 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:30,400 I didn't believe it could. And then all of a sudden, and the 419 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:36,559 only way I knew how fast it traveled was because it continued to growl. 420 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:43,559 But it felt like it just went around, cleared down that wall across the 421 00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,480 back park they had the outside door, and clear up the next wall till 422 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:52,359 it was at the window in front of me. And now I have the 423 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:59,559 realization that it's looking me in the face, and I'm looking down. I'm 424 00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:05,880 afraid to look up. And it was like and I don't understand still what 425 00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:09,880 happened or how it happened, but I had a thought come to my mind, 426 00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:15,679 and it said, if you look at in the eyes, it will 427 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:23,000 come into you. I didn't know if it meant possess me or come in 428 00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:28,760 through the window and kill me because I made eye contact with it. You 429 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,679 know, some animals and canines, if you look at the eye, it's 430 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:37,559 a challenge and they're coming. So I wasn't sure, but I was going 431 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,800 to take that information to heart. I wasn't going to look at the eyes. 432 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,800 And then all of a sudden, it was like my head was following 433 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:51,840 orders from somebody else. It started going up and I'm going no, no, 434 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,280 no, no, no, no no, and it's no raising up 435 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:59,599 and I'm thinking, don't you dare look at this thing in the face, 436 00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:05,119 don't you dare. And as I'm getting to just the edge of the top 437 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:07,920 of that pan where I know the very next thing I'm going to see, 438 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,880 and I'm trying to close my eyes and they're just rolling back up. I 439 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:17,239 mean, it's like open is what am I doing? I see this yellowish 440 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,440 green kind of neon glow, two of them, and I'm thinking, oh 441 00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:25,280 no, that's crazy, because something can't be up that high with a little 442 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,239 lamp and have eyes shine off of that, and it was like suddenly my 443 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:37,599 body broke loose and I could move. I jumped up so hard and so 444 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,920 fast that the chair I was sitting in skidded across the kitchen floor and it 445 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:50,320 slammed into the refrigerator behind me hard. And I think the sound of that 446 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,519 slamming was just like telling me go. And I ran out of there through 447 00:35:55,559 --> 00:36:00,920 the living room and I went running into my mom and dad's bed, and 448 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:07,360 I landed in that bed right between them. I was tear off side and 449 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,599 I didn't care who knew it, and I gave them a heart attack, 450 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,559 you know, I mean, what is their daughter doing landing in there. 451 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,119 My mom turned on the lamp and she's looking at me so startled, and 452 00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:24,519 she said, what is going on? And all I can get out is 453 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:30,679 outside, outside, monster, Outside, outside monster. And she starts to 454 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:36,320 tease me, and she says, do you want me to go outside and 455 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,639 make that big, bad monster go away? And I started crying hysterically, 456 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,920 No, no, no, and I've got a hold of her arm and 457 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,519 she's realizing I'm being very serious with her. I'm not finding that funny, 458 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,360 and she's kind of give me a funny. Look, well, my dad 459 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:58,159 sets up and he turns on his lamp and he goes, Joe, Joe, 460 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,960 Joe, and I look up over and he goes, what are you 461 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:07,039 doing? And I'm shaking so hard. He said to my mom, is 462 00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:10,800 she having a seizure. She's moving this whole bed, and my mom goes, 463 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,440 no, that's not a seizure. But she's she's shaking all right, 464 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,639 I mean she's moving everything. And he said, you need to get a 465 00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:24,119 hold of yourself, you know, are you afraid? And he knew that 466 00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:28,840 that would make me go, I'm not afraid of anything, like I always 467 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,199 responded, and that's what he was hoping for, kind of bring me back 468 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:37,000 around. But instead I shook my head yes, and I was shaking, 469 00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:42,679 and that's that just shockhand because I was admitting to it. And that's when 470 00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:45,280 he reach out to put his hand on my arm and he said, you're 471 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:52,199 okay, You're okay. You fell asleep while you were studying and you had 472 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:58,719 a nightmare because you're under stress of the studies. And I so wanted him 473 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,639 to be righted that to be the case that I actually shook my head yes, 474 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,280 and I believed him because that sounded better than me thinking this thing's back 475 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,519 and it found me in the other room. So I accepted that and I 476 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,159 went out and I got on the couch and I covered my head up, 477 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,199 but I couldn't go to sleep the rest of the night. Now I started 478 00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:29,760 hesitating about going and studying. So I tried sitting on the floor in front 479 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,880 of the couch with the lamp under a blanket so he couldn't see it and 480 00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:37,960 study and he just said, that's ridiculous. It was a nightmare. Go 481 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:45,280 back in, you'll see. So I went back in, and you know, 482 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,000 nothing happened the first two nights, and I thought, well, he 483 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:52,719 was right, and I kind of got back more relaxed, and I'm studying 484 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,559 again and I have a big test coming up. We're getting close to being 485 00:38:54,639 --> 00:39:00,760 done with that year. And all of a sudden, I feel the hair 486 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,960 stand up on the back of my neck and I remember going no, no, 487 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,440 no, no, no, no, like please don't be here. 488 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:14,559 And I'm waiting for the growl at the back of my neck at that window, 489 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,199 and it shocked me because it was in front of me. It started 490 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,159 at that window this time, and I was like, oh no, I 491 00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:29,360 didn't have time to get ready for this, and I was yelling, you 492 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,840 know, go away, go away, please. I'm sorry that I yelled 493 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,840 at you, go away, go away, go away. And my head 494 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,000 starts going up and I'm thinking, no, no, no, don't don't. 495 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:45,400 As I got up to that, I see the whole head move and 496 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,440 now I realized how big, how wide this head is. It's taken up 497 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:57,599 almost that entire blast of that one window pane, and it has me in 498 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,599 shock. And as I'm thinking, is that my head's coming on up? 499 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:06,800 And for a brief second I started to get a look at it and yep, 500 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,039 this is what was out there. It looks like a werewolf. I 501 00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:14,800 guess. I don't know. And I took off running again and landed back 502 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,000 on the couch, covering up. Well. I thought, you know, 503 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,159 I'm going to flunk out because I can't get up of study anymore. I'm 504 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:28,400 terrified. I don't know what to do. And I called the guy that 505 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,440 I had been seeing every once in a while, and I said, can 506 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,639 I come to your house tonight and study? I have one more day a 507 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,800 finals. I can't do it here, and I'll tell you why when I 508 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,480 see you. And he goes yeah, I've been wondering what's going on? 509 00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:45,760 Are you breaking up with me? And I said no, I will explain 510 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:52,199 when I see you. So we went out to eat and I very nervously 511 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:58,760 informed him that I was being stalked by a werewolf. And he started to 512 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:04,239 laugh a little bit, but he saw how serious I was being, and 513 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,079 when I saw him to start to laugh, I felt so betrayed. I 514 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,960 just knew he would be the person who believed me, and I started to 515 00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:15,239 tear up. And when he saw that tear go down my cheek, he 516 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,480 felt really bad because, you know, like I said before, I was 517 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:22,840 a pretty tough person, and he actually liked that about me. I wasn't 518 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:28,719 a girly girl that had to have the flowers or the candy anything like that. 519 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,039 And I could keep up with him all a lot of stuff, and 520 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:35,719 so he wasn't used to seeing this, so he said, you know what, 521 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,119 I'm sorry. Let's go get your stuff, get your books, get 522 00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:44,079 your clothes. You could spend the night. I'll stay up with you and 523 00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:47,480 i'll guard you to protect you while you study. And you know, my 524 00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:52,159 dog, King, there's nothing going to come into that yard. King will 525 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,039 run it off and I had to laugh because that's true. He had a 526 00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:00,480 pitbull and it was huge, and I had been in him for six to 527 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:07,000 eight months and he's still had just slowly introduced me to that dog every time. 528 00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,960 And then once I was in the house and everything was fine, he 529 00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,639 was okay with me. But I thought, I just can't believe this, 530 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,000 but he was so protective of his minister. You had to pass an inspection 531 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:25,320 every single time. So we get in and we're studying in the living room 532 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:31,840 floor. I have my books spread out around me and he's leaning up against 533 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,840 the couch and he's playing one of his video games with the sound off, 534 00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,960 and he said, I'm getting kind of thirsty, are you? And I 535 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,039 said, yeah, I could use some orange juice, and he goes, 536 00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:50,639 okay, I'll go get it some. And I could see into his kitchen 537 00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,039 from the living room, and I was thinking it was taking him quite a 538 00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:59,159 while. And he's just leaned over looking in there, and I'm starting to 539 00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:02,519 Alma laugh because I'm biggines has taken him forever to decide what he wants to 540 00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:07,280 drink, you know, silly guy. And I'm feeling really good because it's 541 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:13,280 like three forty in the morning and nothing's happening, and I hear him, 542 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:21,639 go come here now, and he said it so strange, and it was 543 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,320 higher, and so I start walking in there and I said, are you 544 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,280 being traumatized because you can't decide between something and juice? And I'm laughing. 545 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,039 As I lean down to look in to see what he's looking at. I 546 00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:43,159 realize all the liquids and the refrigerator are shaking back and forth, and I 547 00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:47,719 realize they're shaking because he is. And then I hear his dog, and 548 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:54,400 his dog that from the big heavy chain was whimpering like a little scared puppy. 549 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,960 And I said to him, is that your dog? He said, 550 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:06,400 it can't be my dog would make a sound like that. It's got to 551 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,480 be some dog that he's gotten in the yard and he's showing it whose boss. 552 00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:14,639 And I said, well, I hope it doesn't kill it, and 553 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,559 he said no, I think if it runs off, he'll be okay. 554 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:24,320 But that's not king. And about that time, lo and behold the hair 555 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:30,199 goes up on the back of my neck and I'm thinking, no, no, 556 00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:34,719 no, no, how could this be Because I'm five miles away from 557 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,480 the house out in the country. He lives in town, on the other 558 00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:44,760 side of town. As a matter of fact, how could it tail me 559 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:50,199 and find me through all of those different scents. This is impossible, it 560 00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:55,360 can't be. But sure enough, there came to growl and I saw him 561 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,840 just tint up. He couldn't believe it, and he looks over at me. 562 00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:07,199 His eyes are wide, his mouth is wide open. And I looked 563 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:14,039 at him and I said, oh my god, it followed me. It 564 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,800 followed me. Oh my god, it's hunting me. And I think it 565 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,039 was the way I said hunting me, because I'm realizing it at the same 566 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:28,480 time he is. He reach over and grabbed me by my wrist. Now, 567 00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:32,119 back then I weighed one hundred and ten pounds, soaking wet, and 568 00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:37,280 he was six foot two and probably weighed two hundred and ten pounds. So 569 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,719 when he grabbed me and took off, I was going where he was going, 570 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,400 like it or not. And he started to drag me out of the 571 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,639 kitchen, and the way he was doing it put us right in front of 572 00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:54,679 that kitchen window. And as his eyes met the eyes of this monster, 573 00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:01,960 he came to a dead stop, and I ran into him, and I'm 574 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,519 looking at him and I'm in shocked, and I realized that his eyes are 575 00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:13,679 glowing a yellowish green. And if I'm looking back, I realize, so 576 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,480 it's this monster. And I'm thinking, wow, this monster is eye locked 577 00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:22,000 with him and he's not moving. And if I'm looking at this thing, 578 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,960 I'm getting a better look at it. I'm realizing just how big those eyes 579 00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:34,519 are. They're like silver dollars and they're a long ways apart. This head 580 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,480 is huge. They've got to be at least think they're seven inches apart, 581 00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:45,760 probably more. And the hair around the neck almost looked like a lion's made 582 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:51,039 the way it was sticking out, and so thick and just jet blacks all 583 00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:54,760 I could see. Now. The hair on the face wasn't as long, 584 00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:01,559 and you could see the black skin underneath it. The muzzle was long, 585 00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:07,599 it was big. The holes of the nose they were far apart, they 586 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:12,400 were big. And it had its mouth open as it was growling. And 587 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,239 those teeth, wow, they were huge and they were so white. And 588 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,400 the one thing that I have had a lot of nightmares about was because of 589 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,800 what it did next. It was drooling, and I don't know if it 590 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,119 was drooling because its mouth was open and it was growling or it was drilling 591 00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:35,559 because it was thinking how good we were going to taste when it ripped us 592 00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:40,960 apart. But it took this long, black tongue. It reminds me of 593 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,679 a tongue of a giraffe, you know, they're like or a child. 594 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:51,079 They're dark, like between a black and a purple. And it took this 595 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,960 tongue and it licked up the drool and put it back into its mouth, 596 00:47:55,199 --> 00:48:01,199 and just that movement just me the chill. It's making me have the chills 597 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:06,960 right now. I'm just seeing it in my seeing it in my mind's eye. 598 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:13,280 Oh God. And it was looking at him and it happened to look 599 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,360 down and it saw where he had a hold of my arm, and it 600 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,920 kind of made this this snarl. You know, the dog will kind of 601 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,679 wrinkle its top lip up when it's going to snarl at you and kind of 602 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,000 does this chewing emotion like and it making it sound. That's what this thing 603 00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:37,400 started doing. And it was like I knew it was letting him know, 604 00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:44,599 I'm going to kill you, and he read that somehow. It's like we 605 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:50,639 both knew that thought at the same time, Like it somehow delivered that thought 606 00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:54,960 to us, and he took off with me and he's dragging me through the 607 00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,960 living room. There was a sitting room, his bedroom, and then the 608 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,679 bathroom. The bathroom there were no windows in it. That was smart, 609 00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:10,840 very smart on his part. Unfortunately, the bathroom is at the back wall 610 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,880 of the house, just like the kitchen and kind of like with my house. 611 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,920 To be able to go from the kitchen window where he had was looking 612 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,480 in to where we would be standing in the bathroom with maybe eight feet on 613 00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:29,159 the outside wall, so it'd taken us quite a while to get around to 614 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,800 it. In the house, it wasn't doing that. It just moved over. 615 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,920 We're sitting there and he's looking at me and he is shaking so hard. 616 00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:44,239 He got me so tight against him that I almost can't breathe. And 617 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,599 I'm telling you, you know, let go a little bit, Let go 618 00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:49,760 a little bit. I can't. I can't take a deep breath. And 619 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,760 he looks at me and he says, I'm so sorry. He said, 620 00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:58,960 I promised you that I would keep you safe because I didn't think it was 621 00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,639 real. I thought you were just seeing things because you were so tired. 622 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,840 But this thing is real, and I said, it is, and I 623 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,639 think it's hunting me. How could it find me? And he goes, 624 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,320 I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, and he's just 625 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,719 standing there looking at him. It's kind of shaking his head and he's shaking 626 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,599 and so am I. And then I feel those hairs go up again on 627 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:30,199 the back of my neck, and I'm thinking, this can't be happening again. 628 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:36,159 It's almost like my body had got used to sensing when this thing was 629 00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:40,280 approaching, and what a thing to have your body get used to. But 630 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,239 all of a sudden, it made this roar, and I mean it was 631 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:51,000 deep. I thought i'd heard it deep before. Oh no, this was 632 00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:58,559 ten times louder and deeper and more vicious. Oh my god. And when 633 00:50:58,599 --> 00:51:02,000 it did it right there, it's like it wind up with It's like somehow 634 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,639 it knew where we were, and you could fill it in your chest. 635 00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:09,840 It felt like it was messing my heart beat up. My heart didn't know 636 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:15,119 what to do, and I couldn't believe that. And he could even fell 637 00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:17,400 it his chest because he wrenched down and grabbed at his chest for a second, 638 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,639 and I knew he was filling it too, and it started growling more 639 00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:29,159 and more and getting more angry. And I remember looking up and we were 640 00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:34,239 standing by the kitchen at the bathroom stack, and there was a bathtub that 641 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,920 had a shower into it too, and there was shelving on the wall that 642 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,400 you would reach up while you're standing in front of the seat and get his 643 00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:47,800 like his coloone or his deodorant, and these things on his glass shelves that 644 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,400 were attached to the wall. They were shaking just like our chests was, 645 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,159 but they were moving forward with a vibration, and they were literally moving forward 646 00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:02,760 and falling off the shelf and falling into the bathtub just from the sound, 647 00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:09,800 not being hit knocked in there, vibrating from this sound. How could anything 648 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:15,199 do that, but it was happening. And I remember watching his clone bottle 649 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:22,000 fall and break, and that bathroom filling up so thick of his cologne that 650 00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:28,239 it was almost hard to breathe. And he starts yelling, you know, 651 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,559 go away, go away, get out of here. And King is crying, 652 00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:36,639 Oh he is so scared, and he went, oh, no, 653 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,480 King, King, King, and he's like shouting his dog's knee, like, 654 00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:44,840 oh, he's out there with it. And I think King misunderstood. 655 00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:50,239 I think King meant Daddy's want me to attack it because he's in trouble. 656 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,880 And God blessed that dog. That dog come running with a growl, and 657 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:04,239 we heard this thing turned and roar back, and King jumped and we heard 658 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,360 this thing kind of you know oo, it got hurt. King had bit 659 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:13,199 it, and the fight was on, and all of a sudden, he 660 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,199 went from growling and trying to be in charge to screening out in pain. 661 00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:22,960 Oh, it was awful to hear how this dog was howling and being in 662 00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:29,880 so much pain. And he's looking at me and he's starting to fill up 663 00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:35,039 his eyes with tears, and he says, oh my god, it's killing 664 00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:39,719 my best friend. It's killing my buddy. And I felt so bad, 665 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,599 thick, because if I hadn't have told him, if I hadn't have come 666 00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:51,400 over that night, that thing would not have followed me, that it would 667 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:57,119 not have attacked his dog. Then it wouldn't have killed his dog. I 668 00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:01,000 wouldn't have cost him his best friend. I wouldn't have casted this dog. 669 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,400 And it was sounding so awful, and he started praying, and I'm trying 670 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,679 to pray with him too, but I don't know how to pray. I 671 00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:17,239 don't know to pray that it's over with quick or somehow, you old king 672 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,000 does he impossible and he kills it. I don't know what to pray. 673 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,800 Hey, hey, hey, it's okay, it's okay. I'll tell you 674 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:40,880 what, Joe. Let's take a break. We'll be right back, all 675 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:50,119 right, Joe, whenever you're ready, please continue. Okay. It's unbelievable 676 00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:55,840 sitting there listening to this dog and you want to have it over for the 677 00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:02,639 dog, but that means death. Yeah, you feel guilty trying to wish 678 00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:08,800 death upon this dog that jumped it, trying to protect you, and he's 679 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,320 just looking at me, still going it's killing my best friend. And I'm 680 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,639 feeling that wave of guilty. Kid, How could I have done this to 681 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:22,360 somebody that I care about so much? How could I have done this doing? 682 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:28,760 And so we start praying, and God answered our prayer, and that 683 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:35,400 his neighbor heard all of this going on and the streams. He thought it 684 00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:40,960 was me screaming, not the dog, and he called the police department and 685 00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:46,519 said, get somebody here to this address. Somebody's being murdered. Get here 686 00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:53,280 now. And we start hearing police sirens coming from three different directions, and 687 00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:58,599 I don't think they're stopping where we are, but I'm hoping that it scares 688 00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:05,159 it off, because what had happened after it went silent with King, It 689 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,480 started tearing into the back of the house. It was coming for us. 690 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:15,840 You could literally hear wood breaking, and you knew. And we were so 691 00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:22,719 terrified that we couldn't even we couldn't even run. We couldn't even move to 692 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,639 get going and out of that room. We were just frozen, like we 693 00:56:27,639 --> 00:56:32,199 were an easy target. And it's coming on and you know, it's getting 694 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,880 louder, out louder, and you can hear boards breaking, and you're thinking, 695 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,119 oh my god, if we try to go out, is it gonna 696 00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:44,119 come around the side and it kill us. We can't make a run for 697 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,360 it. This is the only room that doesn't have windows. We have to 698 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:52,639 stay here. And it's getting louder and it's rowing. It's like it knows 699 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,559 it's getting ready to get us. And so he goes, what are we 700 00:56:55,559 --> 00:56:58,360 going to do? I said, I don't know, I don't know, 701 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,960 I don't know. And then again and that's when we heard the sirens coming 702 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:07,840 and they kind of slighting up and if something gets quiet, so you know, 703 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,079 he goes, I think it's gone, and I said, well, 704 00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:15,400 I'm afraid to try to see, and he goes, well, I am 705 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:21,199 too, and so he goes and says, you know, we're going to 706 00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:24,119 stay right here. And then we hear bag bag bag bag bay o the 707 00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:29,880 door and it's the police and they're saying, open this door or we're going 708 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,559 to kick it in. We have a report to somebody is screaming and we 709 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,519 have got to get in to make sure that everybody is okay. And so 710 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,800 he goes, we're going to have to do there. He's going to keep 711 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,679 the door in and I said, can't we wait just a minute because I 712 00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:49,000 think that thing's going to jump them, And he goes, we can't. 713 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,320 We've got to go. And so he goes in there and he opens up 714 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,119 the door and he says, come in quick, comeing, get in here, 715 00:57:57,159 --> 00:57:59,199 get in here quick, and they're kind of looking at him funny, 716 00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,400 and so they want to know what's going on, and as we're both trying 717 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:07,840 to tell them, they're looking at us like we've lost our mind. And 718 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,880 he one of them even said, did you party a little too hard tonight? 719 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,920 With something that he goes, no, look at her books. She's 720 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,719 a nursing student. You know, she's not trying to sit here and party. 721 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,039 She's trying to pass your courses. But this is what's been happening. 722 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:28,239 And so we're telling you the truth. And about that time, one of 723 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,840 the officers that had gone into the backyard came around and he said, guys, 724 00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:37,039 you need to see this, And so we started walking out and we're 725 00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:44,960 with them and we go around to the back of the house and I watched 726 00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:50,599 him fall to his knees, just like something dropped him. And I'm looking 727 00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:53,159 at him kind of confused, and I follow his eyes and that I realized 728 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:59,440 what he's seeing. He is seen what's left at King. King had his 729 00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:05,440 right front leg ripped off, he had his back left leg ripped off. 730 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,960 He had a hole in the torso, and his head was off, and 731 00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:15,880 it was several feet back in the yard like it had tore it off and 732 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:22,199 thrown it. And the house was white, and it was like it looked 733 00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:28,519 like it was spray painted with red blood, and that he had maybe picked 734 00:59:28,519 --> 00:59:32,159 this dog up with a chain and had spun it around or something trying to 735 00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:37,239 make that effect. Love that like it was wanting to do whatever it could 736 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:42,719 to torture him. They're looking at each other and he goes, how do 737 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,920 you even write this report? He goes, I don't know. I don't 738 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:52,039 know how you write this report. He goes, I don't either. We 739 00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:54,480 go over it and we get looking at this hole. This thing started tearing 740 00:59:54,519 --> 01:00:00,039 into the walls and it was like three foot by three foot, and if 741 01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:06,800 we're looking even the boards that you put into, you know, construction, 742 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,639 then you put that sheet rock on it to make the walls. Even some 743 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:15,920 of that was splintered. And we got realizing the only thing left for it 744 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,880 to actually have been in there was the next thing it was going to do 745 01:00:19,039 --> 01:00:22,639 was tear through the sheet rocks. We had got that close, and that 746 01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:29,239 will just make your heart skip a beat. You're realizing you were minutes away 747 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:36,599 from being torn just like he was. I couldn't believe it. So we 748 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,079 wanted to go in and get our stuff. And I was begging them to 749 01:00:38,119 --> 01:00:40,360 stay with us, you know, don't leave us, don't leave us here, 750 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,760 and they could say, we were really that scared. And he said, 751 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,039 do you own this place? And he said, well, buying it 752 01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:50,519 on contract and he said, well, do you want to report this? 753 01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:52,159 And he said, I don't even know how to report it. He goes, 754 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,960 yeah, I don't know how to ask you to report it either. 755 01:00:57,639 --> 01:01:00,880 He said, I'm willing to let this go off you are, and he 756 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,199 goes, yeah, I'm good with that, and he goes, good, 757 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,599 so am I because nobody would believe us back at the station, and so 758 01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:13,840 they just kind of going to let it go at that. So he came 759 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:19,760 and I got my clothes and it went and I had my last of my 760 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,159 finals that day. He drove me to school that was like meeteen miles from 761 01:01:24,159 --> 01:01:29,639 there, and he waited up me out in the parking lot. Yes, 762 01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:32,079 I went in. It took my finals that he could believe that. I 763 01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:37,159 don't even remember the test, but somehow, thank god, I basked them, 764 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,559 and you know, I came out and he was sitting there just kind 765 01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:47,239 of quiet, and he said I really didn't believe you, and I'm sorry, 766 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:52,199 and I said, no, I'm the one that's sorry. I cost 767 01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:55,679 you your dog. I cost you king, and I'm so sorry. And 768 01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,840 he said, no, I cost king because I took you could come over 769 01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:04,960 and he said that, you know, I think this is going to mess 770 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,320 with my head. I think when I see you, I'm going to see 771 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:12,840 king. And I don't know that we could see each other anymore. And 772 01:02:13,239 --> 01:02:17,119 you can't really argue that. I felt so guilty, and I understood exactly 773 01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:22,239 what he was saying, and I said, okay, I get it. 774 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,960 I understand it. So I knew that I was going to lose my best 775 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,199 friend at night too, just like he was off kids, I was going 776 01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:36,519 to lose mind. So it was about three or four weeks before I heard 777 01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:39,519 from him again, and you know, he did want to skin me kind 778 01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:44,599 of see each other, but he said he had been thinking about it, 779 01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:47,360 and we talked it through. You know, he said, we can't stay 780 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,280 around here. That thing's going to be coming for us, he said, 781 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,800 because I think it's going to be hunting me now as much as it is 782 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:58,639 you. And we can't tell people about this. I don't know, maybe 783 01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:02,599 that brings it after us. So we made a vow to never tell anybody 784 01:03:02,599 --> 01:03:07,719 about it. It had to be a vow of silence, and we did 785 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:14,840 a peaky swear on that, and we started dating a little bit. We 786 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:21,280 ended up getting married, had a daughter, and he just couldn't get over 787 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:25,039 it. So we split up before she was even a year old. And 788 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,840 you know, we never talked about that. I hardly ever saw him. 789 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,960 She never saw us in a room together, so she wouldn't even know what 790 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:37,280 it was like to have her parents in a room together. And she was 791 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:42,360 visiting him when she was twelve, and you no for then a couple of 792 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,239 weeks in this summer, and I had to be very careful when she went 793 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:52,719 to see him because he had gone heavy into drugs and alcohol, and I 794 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,639 was surprised because he hadn't been like that at all before. So she was 795 01:03:55,719 --> 01:03:59,519 home and he gone out with some of his friends to party. And as 796 01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:03,239 he came in, and she was watching the movie Silver Bullet, and there 797 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:10,800 was a scen where this WHEREWI was underneath the floorboards of a greenhouse, and 798 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:15,639 it came through the boards as it was roaring, just as he came through 799 01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:20,039 the back door, and she said, he lost it. It's like he 800 01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:24,920 got so mad at her and he was screaming at her that I had to 801 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,920 explain to her later, No, you caused a flashback because he heard the 802 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,440 wood breaking and the roar, just like it was at the back of the 803 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,760 house and he told her to get that off. Don't you ever turn anything 804 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,559 like that on again? Don't you ever watch any thinking? She said, 805 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,760 Dad, it's a movie. He said, no, it's not. Where 806 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,920 whips are real? Ask your mom. So she couldn't wait to get home. 807 01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:51,239 And I mean when she came home, she didn't even have her coat 808 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:56,039 off yet. And she said, Dad says to ask you if where whips 809 01:04:56,039 --> 01:05:00,000 are real? And I'm looking at her stun and I said, he brought 810 01:05:00,199 --> 01:05:03,000 the vow of silence, and she said what. So I had to sit 811 01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:09,280 down and explain to my daughter why did happened? And she was in shock 812 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:14,320 that we had kept that quiet from her all that time. I didn't talk 813 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,199 to him about it, you know, he had said that to her. 814 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:24,119 And you passed forward about another thirty years and he was on his deathbed. 815 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,239 He was dying as the roses of the liver from all this alcoholism and digs. 816 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,039 And I asked if I could speak with him, and so she gave 817 01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:38,440 me the number to where he was and we talked about it, and he 818 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,480 said, I told you wrong, And I said, what he said, 819 01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:45,199 We should have talked to people about it. He said, because I held 820 01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:49,280 that in and the only way I could go to sleep at night was to 821 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:55,360 drink or get so messed up on pill that I could go to sleep past 822 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,960 the eyes because when I would close my eyes, I would see those green 823 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,719 eyes just drew into my soul. And then I realized that's why he had 824 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,559 become a drug addict and alcoholic. He was trying to pass out where he 825 01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:11,280 didn't see that. And oh, Vic that that made me feel guilty all 826 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:15,000 over again. Not only do I cause him to lose his best friend, 827 01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:19,159 but I wrecked his life by having invited over, you know, invite me 828 01:06:19,199 --> 01:06:25,320 over that night. I couldn't believe that that I actually had ruined his whole 829 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,719 life. And he told me, he said, start talking to people about 830 01:06:29,719 --> 01:06:32,519 it. Don't let it eat you up alive. Then he asked me if 831 01:06:32,519 --> 01:06:35,559 I had problems, and I said, I have nightmares all the time, 832 01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:40,199 and he said, see what I mean, You're going to have to tell 833 01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:45,039 people, and I told him I would, And because of him having me 834 01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:48,719 make that promise, that's why I'm talking to you tonight. I'm keeping my 835 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:55,280 word and it has helped, and You've been a big help, and I 836 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,480 thank you again, Dick and I think, and again for helping me. 837 01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:02,679 Des I didn't want to end up the way he has. I mean, 838 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:08,519 it's affected me. I never had a dog for a pet, and I 839 01:07:08,519 --> 01:07:12,440 would have loved to have had it, but I just felt guilty. You 840 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,280 know, he lost King. How could I have a pet? And he 841 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,039 told me to go get one. I haven't done it yet, but maybe 842 01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:24,639 that'll be the next sign of healing is I'll call you some day and introduce 843 01:07:24,679 --> 01:07:29,880 you over the phone to my dog. We'll see that that is my dog 844 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,840 did encounter. It's not your fault that King died. It's not your fault 845 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:38,280 that your boyfriend had those encounters, at least back then he was your boyfriend. 846 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,800 It's not your fault that he had that encounter. Like you said, 847 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,679 yet, every reason to think, by going all the way across town through 848 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,679 town, that there was no way that that dog, mean was going to 849 01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:51,519 be able to track you. You had no reason to think for a second 850 01:07:51,559 --> 01:07:56,039 that it would be able to do that you having that encounter with him. 851 01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:00,719 That's not your fault. It's just something that was extremely in f fortunate that 852 01:08:00,199 --> 01:08:05,920 it happened. But it's not your fault that it did. So please never 853 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:11,360 lose sight of that fact. If you look at it that way as if 854 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,760 it was your fault, then yeah, that is going to cause you a 855 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,960 lot of pain, a lot of pain that you shouldn't be suffering from. 856 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,439 I mean, you have experiences like that. It's hard enough to come to 857 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:26,720 terms with them as it is. But if you put a load on your 858 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,920 plate that doesn't need to be there on top of everything else that you're dealing 859 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,840 with, you're just going to make it harder on yourself. So, like 860 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:38,960 I said, please don't do that. Yeah, I think that you're right. 861 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,760 I think it did cost me almost my life. I love in a 862 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,800 very high pressure job as a directorcy of one hundred and forty bad facility, 863 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:56,279 and I guess the stress of the job, the dog man nightmares were coming 864 01:08:57,039 --> 01:08:59,680 fard and fast every night I was in order to get in any sleep, 865 01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:04,479 and I ended up having what they call a widow maker heart attack. And 866 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:11,880 only three percent of people live when that happens, and the damage done to 867 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,720 your heart, you never walk away from it and say, oh, you 868 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,000 know, I survived it without any big problems, because that's just not the 869 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:24,399 case. And what happened with me is that it damaged my final atrio note, 870 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:29,039 or known as the pacemaker of the heart. So I could be sitting 871 01:09:29,079 --> 01:09:32,560 watching TV with a heart rate of seventy eight beats a minute, and it 872 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,239 will fire in two places all at once, and the bottom part of my 873 01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:41,479 heart, you know, that responds to that to make the heart beat starts 874 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,880 responding to both of them, and I'll go from seventy eight beats a minute 875 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,800 to one hundred and ninety eight beats a minute, and it feels like somebody 876 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:55,359 put a stick of dynamite in your chest and blew it up. It is 877 01:09:55,399 --> 01:10:00,920 so painful, and your blood pressure drops to like, you know, sixty 878 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,279 over thirty. You're going to pass out if you go to stand up. 879 01:10:03,359 --> 01:10:08,640 So I have to call nine one one. They come get me. They 880 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,119 give me a medicine called the Denisen, and it stops your heart on a 881 01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:17,039 dime. And when it does that, it feels like a professional boxer punching 882 01:10:17,079 --> 01:10:23,199 you in the chest. They wait three minutes and then they restart your heart. 883 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:30,159 I've had to go through that thirty three times, and each time it 884 01:10:30,279 --> 01:10:34,439 damages my heart a little bit more so all four valves of my heart now 885 01:10:35,279 --> 01:10:40,720 are leaking and I've had to go on disability and give up my nursing job 886 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:46,520 that I loved, and I found a place to live and a little town 887 01:10:47,119 --> 01:10:51,520 and that's where I've been living the past seven years. And now I have 888 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:58,720 more problems because of that living there, and so it's been really really hard 889 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:03,840 row for me. So just finding out what this was called, having you 890 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,119 tell me that I don't have to carry that fload of guilt, that's going 891 01:11:08,199 --> 01:11:13,319 to really help offset what I'm going through now as I'm going through a lot 892 01:11:13,359 --> 01:11:17,159 physically now. The house that I'm in now, when I was first moving 893 01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:23,920 in and I was walking unpacking things, I heard this guy that was coming 894 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:28,640 out to do a rotor router on the pipes because nobody had lived in it 895 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,640 for seven years. I heard him break the sewer pipe right under my feet 896 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,600 in the bathroom, and I went running out to say, hey, you 897 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,399 just broke something, and I heard him break it again out in the yard 898 01:11:39,399 --> 01:11:43,199 and he was trying to take that out as fast as he could, and 899 01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:46,119 he said, I've got to go get apart, and he started leaving throwing 900 01:11:46,119 --> 01:11:49,039 things in his truck and I said, are you going to put the cat 901 01:11:49,159 --> 01:11:53,520 back on to that? Pipe sticking out. He said, I'll take care 902 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,560 of that when I get back. He never came back, and so my 903 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,680 landlord, he and his wife lived across the street, and I let him 904 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:08,079 know he broke this and he hasn't come back, and he said, well, 905 01:12:08,079 --> 01:12:09,800 I see if I can get a hold of him. Well, he 906 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,159 didn't answer hitty of his calls. So he came over to put the cat 907 01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:16,279 back on, and the stool was flashing better. I mean, there wasn't 908 01:12:16,279 --> 01:12:19,319 a resistance like before. He said, well, maybe that was just what 909 01:12:19,359 --> 01:12:23,319 it sounds like when the branches get clear, and you just don't know that. 910 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,840 So I bought that. Okay, I don't know that. That was 911 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:32,199 in December. In April and May and Junior start getting all these showers and 912 01:12:32,279 --> 01:12:38,520 rains because of the season change. I started smelling like a sewer smell after 913 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,640 a rain, and I told them, you know, it's coming up through 914 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,199 the bathroom. Seek. I can smell it a little bit in the bedroom, 915 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,600 but three or four days after the rain, I couldn't smell it anymore. 916 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:54,000 Well, it has increasingly got worse, and my health started going down 917 01:12:54,119 --> 01:12:58,760 hill. And now seven years later, I have to walk with a roller 918 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,720 walker with a seat on it because I can only walk about fourteen feet and 919 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,399 I had to sit down on the seat and try to get my air back. 920 01:13:05,079 --> 01:13:11,119 And I have so much pain and swelling in my joints that I had 921 01:13:11,119 --> 01:13:14,640 to slide my feet by somebody, you know, skiing trying to get along 922 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,840 to go up to a you know, some hill or something to go down. 923 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,840 I can't even hardly bend my niece. I have to sleep in a 924 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:26,159 recliner. I can't lay flat in the bed because I can't breathe. And 925 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,920 I'm just really surprised. So my daughter, who's forty four, moved in 926 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:35,560 with me in January to help take care of me, and her health started 927 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:43,159 declining rapidly, and this year with all the rain and everything coming, it 928 01:13:43,319 --> 01:13:46,319 was so strong and staying that way that she had the windows up in the 929 01:13:46,359 --> 01:13:49,800 bedroom that I used to sleep in, even when we had the air conditioner 930 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:56,159 running. And her husband had passed away five years ago, and she just 931 01:13:56,239 --> 01:14:00,319 really wasn't fixing anything because she was just leaving it. And I said, 932 01:14:00,359 --> 01:14:02,720 you know, this is really bad. Something's going on. And my daughter 933 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:09,159 has developed a serious cough. She's not getting over it, and I think 934 01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:13,159 that you know, we've got some serious issues here. So she hired this 935 01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:17,520 guy to come in to fix the broken pipe out in the yard. So 936 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,359 he's going he's going to shut the water off for a day. And he 937 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,560 came and said, you were right. It was broke out there. And 938 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,760 he said, but everything should be fine. I said, well, if 939 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,720 that's how it breaks downes that we're not fine. And I told him what 940 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,239 I had heard and that had been telling them that, you know, going 941 01:14:32,279 --> 01:14:41,079 on seven years. So he goes underneath the house and he sees that he 942 01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:45,640 had broke it right underneath the stool. So there was two and a half 943 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:51,239 to three feet deep of raw sewage and black mole had been growing all over 944 01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:56,640 this thick and it was like five inches long. It was so thick. 945 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,720 And we have been breathing that, and that's what's been taking my health down 946 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:05,119 and what's making her sick. And so he went over and told her, 947 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,319 now that he had seen that, he had to fix that. He couldn't 948 01:15:09,399 --> 01:15:13,399 leave it that way. And he told me that I would have to find 949 01:15:13,399 --> 01:15:16,239 a place to stay. That would probably take like five days to get all 950 01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:19,479 of that dug out and get that pot height, you know, dry there 951 01:15:20,119 --> 01:15:25,199 and cleaned out and replace it. He gets a black mulled out and there 952 01:15:25,199 --> 01:15:27,600 would probably be another five days. It would be like ten days. We 953 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,560 had to find some place to go. He comes back the very next day 954 01:15:32,279 --> 01:15:35,039 in the evening and says, well, we're all done. You can move 955 01:15:35,079 --> 01:15:39,079 back in. And I said what, and he goes, yeah, yeah, 956 01:15:39,119 --> 01:15:41,680 we got it. I said, how can that be? He said, 957 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,199 oh, we did. We went over talked to her. He said, 958 01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:46,560 you were right about everything. He said, I'm so sorry, and 959 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,079 I thought, why is he saying he's sorry? And I said, we 960 01:15:49,159 --> 01:15:53,920 don't have to say you're sorry because you did it in record time. And 961 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,079 he goes, yeah, yeah, that's what I did. Then he leaves 962 01:15:57,199 --> 01:16:00,000 and my daughter said that was kind of strange. He said it was, 963 01:16:00,279 --> 01:16:05,600 And so my landlord came over and she was so mad at me, and 964 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,199 she said, why did you tell him about that? And I said, 965 01:16:09,359 --> 01:16:15,640 because we're getting sick. And I have looked up black mold poising and guess 966 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,479 what it makes you where it's hard for you to breathe. It makes your 967 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:26,720 muscles and your joints get very painful and swollen, and walking becomes difficult and 968 01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:32,319 you start forgetting things. You start having my early signs of dementia, trying 969 01:16:32,319 --> 01:16:35,039 to come up with words. You can't think of what it was. I 970 01:16:35,039 --> 01:16:38,520 said, even my daughter's starting to do that part. And she's got this 971 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,600 cough going. We're sick and it had to be fixed. And I've been 972 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,279 telling you every year. And she said, well, because you told me 973 01:16:46,399 --> 01:16:48,760 that, and you cost me a lot of money, I want you guys 974 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:53,880 up by the end of July. And I said, And if I hadn't 975 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,239 said anything, she said, you could have lived here till you died. 976 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,680 And I said, but the way it's going, I don't think it had 977 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,520 been much longer. And she said, well, I'm sorry, but you 978 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,800 need to get out. And so now we're trying to find some place to 979 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:10,880 go, and it has to be with the ramps so I can try to 980 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,960 get into the house. And we're having a lot of problem trying to find 981 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,720 a place, and I don't know what we're really going to do, but 982 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:24,560 I appreciate you helping us with this, and you know, I can get 983 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,720 sleep and not worry about it so much now, so that I feel more 984 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,039 like trying to handle that stress because the stress of that and lack of sleep 985 01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:36,800 would throw me back into you know what they call an SVT, a supervent 986 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:42,359 tricular attack of kartic episode. And I don't have any guarantees. When they 987 01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:45,720 thought my heart, they didn't start back up, so I could leave that 988 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:53,520 way, leave my daughter. So again, thank you for helping me start 989 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:58,600 to get a little bit of peace of mind and sleep so that we can 990 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,439 look for home. Oh, you're welcome. From talking with you, it 991 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,760 sounds like you just might have found a home where you can move into, 992 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,359 and it would definitely be a much better situation for you. What more can 993 01:18:10,399 --> 01:18:15,000 you tell us about that? I did find a home in Predonia, and 994 01:18:15,119 --> 01:18:19,680 it's about eight miles away from where I live. It's a house that I 995 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:24,359 can step into. The steps are small, it has a handrail that I 996 01:18:24,359 --> 01:18:27,960 could use to get in. It has plenty of room for us. It's 997 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:33,159 central heat and air. It's in a safe neighborhood, and they're going to 998 01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:39,560 put a stove and a refrigerator and a worser and dryer intowards because I won't 999 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,079 have any of that any place else that I go. It's going to be 1000 01:18:43,159 --> 01:18:45,640 very expensive moving in, though, because it's going to be about three hundred 1001 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:51,159 dollars more a month than what I was paying on my disability check, which 1002 01:18:51,239 --> 01:18:57,239 is going to make it rough. But my daughter is also on disability with 1003 01:18:57,319 --> 01:19:02,640 her heart and her lungs in some mental issues that she has gone through. 1004 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,920 If I had her at the end of my six month know, they have 1005 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,520 life flighted me out having her, and they just cause some problems. You 1006 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,840 know, her body wasn't in the oven baking long enough. I guess is 1007 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,479 how we could put it so she will be able to help me a little 1008 01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:20,720 bit pay on that so we can have a nice place to live, and 1009 01:19:21,039 --> 01:19:26,239 it'll be nice being we're weird live right now. If I meet a loaf 1010 01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:30,760 of bread, I have to drive eight miles into Reverdonia and an eight miles 1011 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,199 back, fifteen miles here where this is, it's a half a block to 1012 01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:39,560 the store. That'll just be so much easier and better for us. And 1013 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,399 that people that have it, I think are going to be very sleet and 1014 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,960 very kind, and they're not going to knowingly let us live in something that 1015 01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:51,399 is causing us health issues. And I definitely don't think they'd make you get 1016 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:56,239 out because you're telling someone, hey, this is what's going on. I 1017 01:19:56,319 --> 01:20:00,359 need help, So I'm really thrilled. I just now have to come up 1018 01:20:00,399 --> 01:20:04,159 with it. The ability to get the first and last month's rent and the 1019 01:20:04,199 --> 01:20:09,880 security deposit and you know, the deposit for the utilities and things. That's 1020 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:14,560 the next thing I've got to do before the end of July. She said, 1021 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,199 if I do it for the end of July that she will give me 1022 01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:20,720 back my four hundred and twenty five that I pay for rent right now to 1023 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:25,319 help. But if I don't, if I'm one day over, she's keeping 1024 01:20:25,359 --> 01:20:29,119 it. And if I'm a week over, I'm going to find my stuff 1025 01:20:29,119 --> 01:20:34,000 out on the lawn. Well, I'm trying really hard. Well, I 1026 01:20:34,039 --> 01:20:38,479 can understand why this is life and death. Yeah, both of you, 1027 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,840 you really need to get out of that house as soon as possible. That 1028 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,560 goes without saying yes, how much would you need to be able to make 1029 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,119 that move over to the house in Forre Dounia that you're telling us about. 1030 01:20:49,279 --> 01:20:54,520 Well, the rent is going to be eight hundred a month, and that 1031 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:59,000 sounds crazy because it's Dublin, but I have found out that the rent is 1032 01:20:59,039 --> 01:21:01,640 so much. I like six hundred is the norm, and that's for a 1033 01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,840 little tiny house. That has almost nothing, looks like it could just fall 1034 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:10,119 down. And I think the reason why she was renting that so cheap is 1035 01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:14,479 she knew there was a lot of issues with that house. She already knew 1036 01:21:15,359 --> 01:21:18,079 that it wasn't healthy and a good one. So I'd have to have the 1037 01:21:18,119 --> 01:21:21,640 first and last month's rent, which is sixteen hundred, I have to have 1038 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:27,479 a Securit deposit which is another eight hundred, and then I have to have 1039 01:21:28,359 --> 01:21:30,960 two hundred and fifty a fifty for the water, fifty for gas, and 1040 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:39,000 fifty for electric on utility deposits to get in there. So that's quite a 1041 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:45,159 bit of money. So we're trying, and I'm going to do our best 1042 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,399 because I really feel like that would be the perfect house for us. But 1043 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:53,560 all the others is that, you know, I have potential of falling trying 1044 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:58,079 to get into them because of the stairs going in and or no railing, 1045 01:21:58,119 --> 01:22:02,279 and it's just be safe for me to try. Yeah, it sounds like 1046 01:22:02,399 --> 01:22:06,159 it. How much of a boost would you need to definitely be able to 1047 01:22:06,199 --> 01:22:13,720 make that move? How much of a boost? Well, we've got close 1048 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,640 to seven hundred saved back for one of the month's rent, so I'm going 1049 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,319 to start trying to see if I can sell some of my furniture to see 1050 01:22:21,319 --> 01:22:25,840 if I get some more money, you know, for like the last month's 1051 01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,039 rent and maybe some of the deposit. And I'm going to see if the 1052 01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:34,479 Ministial Alliance maybe they can help with the deposits. You know, I'm not 1053 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:39,600 sure. I've never asked for help before. I've always been the person to 1054 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,199 try to give it, so this is all new to me. It feels 1055 01:22:43,239 --> 01:22:46,760 really foreign. And you know, I always think there's people out there that 1056 01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:50,600 need it more than me, but at this rate, with my health and 1057 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:55,760 things, I'm kind of the one needing at this time. But I believe 1058 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,439 that God will see me through this. He won't let me get put into 1059 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,680 the yard. I just don't believe that He does work miracles, that's for 1060 01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:09,479 sure. Let me run this by you. The listeners are really carrying benevolent 1061 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:14,800 people. I'm going to set up a GoFundMe page for you to help raise 1062 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,079 the money required so that you can make that move, get out of that 1063 01:23:17,199 --> 01:23:21,600 nightmare situation you're currently in that's killing both you and your daughter. That's horrible. 1064 01:23:23,079 --> 01:23:25,800 It's not like it's enough that you had to suffer through all these dog 1065 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,359 men accounters you have when you're younger. Now you have to worry about the 1066 01:23:29,399 --> 01:23:32,600 house you're living in killing you as well. So I'm going to set up 1067 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:38,079 a GoFundMe page for you to help make up the difference between what you've already 1068 01:23:38,119 --> 01:23:41,760 saved and what you would need to be able to make that move into a 1069 01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,039 safe house in a much better environment. Like you said, that's closer to 1070 01:23:45,079 --> 01:23:49,399 the store, easier for It's going to be easier for you in every way. 1071 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:55,359 It sounds like, do you have an idea? You're welcome? Thank 1072 01:23:55,399 --> 01:24:00,640 you, you're welcome. Do you have an idea, Joe, as far 1073 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,039 as a figure I could set on your GoFundMe page, how much you would 1074 01:24:04,399 --> 01:24:10,439 need. Gosh, it's probably totally for all of that. And then I'm 1075 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:14,319 gonna have to pay somebody to move us and things, because you know I 1076 01:24:14,359 --> 01:24:18,479 don't have anybody. It's probably going to be close to twenty eight hundred to 1077 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:24,159 get us all put in there and moved in and safe and everything on and 1078 01:24:24,199 --> 01:24:28,960 going. It's quite a bit, well that is quite a bit. But 1079 01:24:29,399 --> 01:24:33,319 you'd be surprised what the listeners can do, especially now they've heard what you've 1080 01:24:33,319 --> 01:24:39,399 been made to bear and what you're suffering through. So I'm going to create 1081 01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:45,000 that GoFundMe page and I think you'll be surprised at what you see if you 1082 01:24:45,039 --> 01:24:47,840 follow it. Like I've got eight hundred of it, you know, with 1083 01:24:48,319 --> 01:24:54,640 this check from disability, so it would only be like two thousand for everything 1084 01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:59,399 else where, the last month's rented deposit and depositing utilities and things, and 1085 01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:05,439 then movers. Oh my gosh, that be such a miracle. Thank you, 1086 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:10,960 You're welcome. Miracles do happen, Joe, they really do. Oh 1087 01:25:11,239 --> 01:25:15,039 thank God. Just so I'm clear, if I set the amount on that 1088 01:25:15,319 --> 01:25:18,199 your GoFundMe page for two thousand dollars, do you think that's all you would 1089 01:25:18,239 --> 01:25:24,000 need to make up the difference? Well, I feel bad even asking for 1090 01:25:24,039 --> 01:25:29,159 that amail, you know, Like I said, I've never asked it for 1091 01:25:29,319 --> 01:25:32,840 anything before. So well, yeah, but you need help, and all 1092 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:38,199 of us need help at multiple times through all our lives. We all need 1093 01:25:38,239 --> 01:25:42,840 help. So you definitely are in one of those situations right now, Joe. 1094 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,239 And if the help is there and available, which I definitely do believe 1095 01:25:46,279 --> 01:25:49,760 it is, I mean I'd be more than happy to get that GoFundMe set 1096 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:54,319 up for you, and like I said, I think you'd be surprised at 1097 01:25:54,359 --> 01:25:59,479 how the listeners will respond. Oh, thank you and thank you to everybody 1098 01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:05,600 that's listen. Thank you so much, thank you. This is amazing, 1099 01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:12,479 it's amazing. You're not alone in this anymore. You've had to deal with 1100 01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:17,079 those encounters all these years and basically you've been alone. But you're not alone 1101 01:26:17,119 --> 01:26:23,000 anymore. No, you've got help, and please remember that you've got help. 1102 01:26:23,079 --> 01:26:27,760 Thank you, thank you, thank you everybody. Thank you for caring. 1103 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,920 Thank you so much. Thank you. Vick, You're welcome, You 1104 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:40,199 are welcome. Well, well, Joe, you've been through a lot recounting 1105 01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:45,159 those dogman encounters. Tonight, I've got tons of questions for you about those 1106 01:26:45,279 --> 01:26:48,479 encounters. Let me run this by you. Would it be okay if we 1107 01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:54,039 came back tomorrow night for a special live stream where I could ask you all 1108 01:26:54,079 --> 01:26:58,079 those questions, and the people in the live chat that would give them an 1109 01:26:58,119 --> 01:27:01,760 opportunity to ask questions for you that they've got as well. I'd be glad 1110 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,760 to do that. Thank you great, well, if that's the case, 1111 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:10,520 everyone, Yeah, we'll be back tomorrow night at nine pm Eastern time eight 1112 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,840 pm Central, so that I can ask Joe all these questions. And like 1113 01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,000 I said, if you're in the live chat and you have questions for then 1114 01:27:17,359 --> 01:27:23,399 I'll be more than happy to ask your questions as well. But having said 1115 01:27:23,399 --> 01:27:27,119 that, we're a bad out of time, so let's call it at this 1116 01:27:27,239 --> 01:27:30,880 point and just start fresh tomorrow night. Then sounds good. Thank you, 1117 01:27:31,119 --> 01:27:35,199 thank you everyone. Well, that makes it easy. But having said that, 1118 01:27:35,279 --> 01:27:58,520 thanks again so much for your time Joe, and have a great night.