WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:04.519 If you're looking for more horror outside of the mainstream, look no further than 2 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:11.119 Unsung Horrors, a podcast about underseen horror movies. I'm Lance and I'm Erica. 3 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:15.119 Every other week we'll cover a horror movie with fewer than one thousand views 4 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:19.280 on Letterboxed. We'll even give you double feature recommendations to pair with the movies 5 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:24.199 we discuss, from gothic to shot on video, from slashers to comedies, 6 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:28.679 from Giallo to jay horror, We'll cover all the subgenres. So join us 7 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:33.079 as we unearth these hidden gems of horror. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, 8 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:37.799 and Facebook. All at Unsung Horrors, available wherever you listen to podcasts 9 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:56.159 and part of the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network. Hello there, everyone, 10 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:00.679 and welcome back to the disc connected here with Def Crocles, Dennis Bartak and 11 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:07.640 Craig Rogers and a mysterious third party Jesse from Cauldron Films and Diabolic. Welcome 12 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:15.000 everyone. Hello Ryan Well, we are here primarily to say what is going 13 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:19.719 on in the immediate future with Def Crocodile. So, Craig, you want 14 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:25.400 to break the news to everybody of what's happening at the moment. Well, 15 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:30.359 it probably isn't, like I said, a huge surprise, but with Rucelane 16 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:38.959 and Ludmella being released, which was actually going to complete our contract with UCN 17 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:46.439 and we did not renew with them. So after Bruceline and Ludmello will be 18 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:56.680 releasing solo with Jesse as a partner with our Our new limited editions will be 19 00:01:56.760 --> 00:02:02.200 exclusive through Diabolic and He's and to also be handling the fulfillment for for all 20 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:07.479 our orders, whether it's through Diabolic or through our own shop. And we're 21 00:02:07.520 --> 00:02:13.840 pretty excited because we're going to be doing lots of fool fun stuff. The 22 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:21.120 the limited editions will be uh more than a slipcover, so you know, 23 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:24.199 they're they're going to be very nice. We'll have some we'll have some image 24 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:29.919 images for you for that you can show people. And yeah, we're just 25 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:36.919 very excited that we're we're moving onward and upward. We're getting into the Jesse 26 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:42.400 Nelson Diabolic business. Yeah, I'm really happy to have you guys. You 27 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:46.240 know, I I recommend things to people all the time, and I always 28 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:51.960 say, you know, not everything's for me, but there's certain labels that 29 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:55.240 that really are that speak to me and def crocodile is definitely one of those. 30 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.360 I think the other one if if Mondo Macabra came to the and said, 31 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:01.919 can you guys help me out with fulfillment too, I think I'd be 32 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:07.520 pretty thrilled. That would be, uh, two of the big ones for 33 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:13.199 me. Yeah, and it's up to the the fulfillment end of things. 34 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.000 You were the first person I thought of, because I think I've told you 35 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:23.520 personally before. I kind of pride myself on how we pack and ship orders 36 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:29.080 and it's all based on I've bought from you, and the stuff comes packed 37 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:34.879 properly and safely and securely, and like like that's that's how it should be 38 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:37.240 done. So it's like, you know, if we're going to hand our 39 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:40.639 baby over to somebody else to deliver, I feel safe with it in your 40 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:46.080 hands. That means the world to me. So I'm so glad to hear 41 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:52.159 it. Like we've spent so many years changing and evolving our package into the 42 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:57.439 way it is now and uh, and I'm glad to hear that. It's 43 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:02.280 that it's that it makes people happy that the we send things out well as 44 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:05.960 you could. As you can probably tell, I'm a little bit of a 45 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:12.400 of a vinyl buff And when I lived in New York City in the eighties, 46 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.520 I used to go into record stores and I would look around and they 47 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:19.279 would have all these rare you know, like fifties douop and sixties psych and 48 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:23.360 garage albums on the wall, and I would just go, oh my god, 49 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:27.959 you know how you know, it's like Aladdin's Cave and going to the 50 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:34.240 Diabolic Site. It's the same experience. I'm like to get this, let 51 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:38.160 me get that. You gotta get this, this and this, and I'm 52 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:44.360 sure, like I speak for many many film fans out there, that's kind 53 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:55.800 of become the the you know, Aladdin's treasure cave of wonder around Literally there's 54 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:57.879 nowhere else you're going to find. I think I just bought was it, 55 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:02.839 Playgirls of Frankfurt? Yeah, an import from you, Like I hear, 56 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:06.040 that's great to It's in my pile of things to watch. I have not 57 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:10.600 watched it yet, but like like you, I have a bit of a 58 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:14.040 pile of things to watch. But yeah, I had to move some piles 59 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:20.240 out so they just weren't toppling over here behind me. Yeah, you've got 60 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:25.399 the uh, you log into your account and you can have a want list 61 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.600 feature, because every time I go to your site to buy one thing, 62 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.759 I see like five others and I'm like, I can't buy all this, 63 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:35.120 but like it's easy to just throw it in the want list, you know, 64 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:39.399 and then you know, I can just pick up that pile every time 65 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:44.439 I log it. Yeah. You know. It's funny is because when what 66 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:46.879 I always think about, Oh I need to watch that movie is someone recommended 67 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:53.040 to me the Ryan Gosling movie Lost River. Today I was like, you 68 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:56.920 know, I I totally forgot that movie existed. I'm going to put that 69 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:00.680 on my on my list and if I don't, if I don't pick that 70 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:02.240 up or buy it soon, I'm going to forget all about it again. 71 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:05.920 If it's not in a pile in my office here, it's going to go 72 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:09.720 right out of my brain. And of course it's out a print on Blu 73 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:13.399 ray already. No it's not. I don't think so. Oh that's right. 74 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:15.519 I tried looking today. I couldn't find it anywhere. Yeah, wait, 75 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:18.399 you were looking for that today? True, because that that tweet went 76 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:25.959 fairly like semi viral media fans. Yeah, yeah, looks all over Amazon. 77 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:28.360 I looked on your side. I looked on Orbit, looked everywhere, 78 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.279 could not find it anywhere. I'm gonna go. I'm smiley, order it 79 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:35.800 here on my phone from where I did find it earlier. Do you happen 80 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:42.040 to find two copies? Let me know, what is it that they say 81 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:46.040 about drug dealers is you're not supposed to use your own supply. You're all 82 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:51.519 drug dealers who have their own supply here because all we all we do is 83 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:55.360 talk about like a yeah, and I gotta buy this and I gotta get 84 00:06:55.360 --> 00:07:00.800 that. Well, the big thing I'm excited for with theF crocodile with Diabolic 85 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.680 is everybody. And this is not meant as like a kiss up fest for 86 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.680 Jesse or anything like that. But as I've been working with more of these 87 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:11.240 labels behind the scenes with my production company, there's really only like two or 88 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.720 three names that everybody says, Yeah, they're they're amazing people. I trust 89 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.879 them wholeheartedly, and Jesse's kind of the first one everybody always recommends for that. 90 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:26.839 So this is really into a love fest. What I love most about 91 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:38.639 Jesse or when he's posts messages he's received from irate customers names sort of not 92 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:50.079 really on social media and they're just fantastic. I just some weird expectations. 93 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:57.040 Yeah, yeah, indeed, Well to go back to deaf crocodile. First, 94 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:00.000 congrats on the Kickstarter. I mean, I'd love to hear you react 95 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.360 some of that, because you're at almost four and a half times the goal 96 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:09.360 is almost eighty five thousand. Now I think I look less and it's it's 97 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.920 definitely in that period in the middle where we just get a few few pledges 98 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:18.800 trickle in. We'll get another little bump towards the end, but it's yeah, 99 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:22.399 it's with Kickstarter, it's in all or nothing, Like if you don't 100 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:26.279 meet your goal, you don't get anything. So I tend to try and 101 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:31.000 figure out, like how much is all this stuff going to cost, you 102 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:33.519 know, to make the box and then new slips and all that, and 103 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.320 then try to go a little above that because you know they're going to take 104 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.320 their cut, and then hope you know, it's like, really, I 105 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:45.840 hope we get that. And yeah, when we reached our gold under two 106 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:54.039 hours, I was like, oh, that was that was surprising. Most 107 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:58.480 of the people would just be buying the empty box. Yeah, totally thought 108 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:03.600 that our target market was really people who had the other three Potushko films we've 109 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:07.919 already put out Ilia Murrametz, Sampo and The Tale of Zarsaltan, and that 110 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:13.240 some people might want to get it with Rustling and Ludmilla, but basically that 111 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:18.960 would be it, and it wasn't until fairly late in the game before we 112 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:22.039 launched that we started talking about, well, maybe we should offer the option 113 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:31.840 of having all four films, and that by far has driven the kickstarter. 114 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:37.000 So there's a ton of people out there who clearly didn't buy any of the 115 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:41.080 previous part films that are like, oh okay, now that I can get 116 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:45.440 him as a box set of four. Also a different groups of people that 117 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:50.200 were reaching that didn't know we existed or that we had released these films, 118 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:54.159 which is, you know, that's pretty exciting that you know, we were 119 00:09:54.000 --> 00:10:00.799 banking on, Like you said that we wanted to offer the box by itself 120 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:03.240 if we want to know, over the box plus the fourth film, because 121 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:07.720 we essentially thought that's who's going to buy it is people that already have the 122 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:13.799 other films. So yes, it's super exciting, especially on the the eve 123 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.759 of us you know, kind of leaving Ocen's Nests, like we were like, 124 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:26.320 oh, there are other people out there. Yeah, that's this is 125 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:33.919 a little off topic, but you guys just reminded me of back back in 126 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:39.039 the early days of Diabolic, all of these films were available. These Russian 127 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:48.360 films were available from rusk Eko and we carried them on the site and they 128 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:50.080 were they were big for us, you know. We we mostly were carrying 129 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.600 like Hong Kong stuff and some horror stuff, and then these Russian fairy tale 130 00:10:54.639 --> 00:11:00.399 movies did so well for us, especially the which is you know, animal. 131 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:09.360 But we got them from a shop in Brighton Beach that was Russian owned 132 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:13.639 and we had to fax them only there was no email. We couldn't call 133 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.399 them. We had to send them a fax and let them know what we 134 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:22.360 wanted with our credit card written on there, and like a week later they 135 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.200 would just show up. It's really crazy to think that we did that, 136 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:33.320 and we're probably indebted to some mobster somewhere that I don't even know about. 137 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.320 It's gonna be some weird guy richie movie in my life real soon. I 138 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:45.159 you know, I had to say, I really wish Alexander Patushka were still 139 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:50.799 around to see the like amazing response I hope. You know, wherever his 140 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:56.919 spirit is bouncing around up in the cosmos, he's smiling. You know. 141 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:05.960 He started in the Russian film industry. I think like maybe three years after 142 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:11.840 Moss film itself started around like nineteen twenty four, So he started in the 143 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:18.240 late twenties, made his first feature movies in the early thirties, and his 144 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:28.200 career kind of paralleled, you know, the development of Soviet cinema for decades 145 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:33.879 from the late Silent era up through the early seventies. Rustland and Lidmella was 146 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.279 his last feature, and for me, is kind of like a it's like 147 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:43.799 his Beatles Red and Blue album. It's it's like a Greatest Hits package. 148 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:48.120 It's two and a half hours long. It's two parts, and he kind 149 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.159 of threw everything that he knew and loved about fantasy filmmaking and visual effects and 150 00:12:52.559 --> 00:13:01.240 production design and kind of fairy tale folk tale filmmaking into it. So like, 151 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:05.519 if you're going to start with a single Petushko film Verslan and Lidmello is 152 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:13.679 a great one to sort of explain why he was such a wonderful fantasy filmmaker. 153 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:20.600 And you know, I organized a retrospective and his movies in around two 154 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:26.000 thousand and two thousand and one with Oliver Latsky at Seagull Films, who's are 155 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:31.600 kind of partnering crime on releasing these Russian films. And we screened it out 156 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.080 here in la at the American Cinematack, and then we toured it around to 157 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:43.279 a number of cinematacks and film museums around the US. But there were a 158 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.679 couple of titles that we weren't able to get, and amazingly it's been some 159 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:52.360 of the ones that we've now been able to release on Blu Ray, like 160 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.879 Ilia, Murometz and Sampo, and I mean, there's still a bunch of 161 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:01.240 other ones that we would love to see restored and put out, so we're 162 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:09.679 working on those. But the fact that we've actually put out four patishco movies 163 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:13.120 on Blu Ray in the past like two years, to me is kind of 164 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.000 mind blowing because I love his work so much, and and again we're just 165 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:22.799 lucky enough to be able to sort of shine light on it and offer beautiful 166 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.600 Blu Ray additions. But he was he, He and all his collaborators, 167 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:31.799 the actors, the writers, the cinematography, everything, they were the ones 168 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:39.399 who created these beautiful, beautiful movies. Yeah, the analogue, in camera 169 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:46.919 effects, Yeah, whether they're you know, camera tricks or or just insane 170 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.919 set pieces, it's just kind of mind blowing. Like the visuals. Some 171 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.679 of the stuff you see, you're like they really did that. That's just 172 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:01.840 it blows your mind. Like the fire be the breathing dragon, it's it's 173 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:07.600 really breathing, like fifty flamed, like it's like spitting nap. I think 174 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:15.960 it's like a Soviet Army flame throw. These people got incinerated making this movie. 175 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:20.799 It's it's absolutely incredible. I swear when the kickstartered launched, there was 176 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:26.480 the second wave of people remembering that they had seen ilia Murmtz or the alternate 177 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:30.759 cut I don't remember the title right now, but the dragon right sort on 178 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:31.960 the dragons, so they remember seeing that as a kid and then going, 179 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.159 oh my god, I forgot all about this, And it was like as 180 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:39.399 big as when Iliu Murmitz was at first announced on Blue and now I swear 181 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.799 this kickstarter exploded right after that, and it seems like all kinds of people 182 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:48.120 discovered it just seemingly out of nowhere. I'm still blown away at the success 183 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:52.360 you guys have had with this round. Yeah, we're pretty darn happy. 184 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:58.720 And and like I said, the biggest thing gets meucided is is less the 185 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:03.639 the you know, amount of money. It's raising that it's that most of 186 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:08.080 these people are didn't know who Deaf Crocodile was. Like, that's super exciting 187 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.960 for me. Like, this is a whole new audience that's you know, 188 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:17.360 excited to get these films. They didn't realize that they were available. And 189 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:21.240 yeah, and if they dig that stuff, they're probably gonna dig a lot 190 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:25.080 of the other stuff we do. Yeah, well, well we put out 191 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:30.840 the first two Ilia MURRIMMTZ and Stampo. We were very fortunate to get permission 192 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:38.480 from Tim Lucas and his late wife, sadly late wife Donna Lucas, who 193 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:45.200 published Video Watchdog magazine for years, which really was so far ahead of the 194 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:52.879 curve on a lot of these incredible kind of inherited filmmakers and film genres around 195 00:16:52.960 --> 00:17:02.600 the world, and they early on published really two part article by the film 196 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:08.839 scholar Alan Upchurch, who I knew briefly towards the end of his life. 197 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:15.480 He sadly died of AIDS in the early mid nineties. But Alan was an 198 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:22.519 early champion of the work of Mario Bava and Ricardo Freeda and these great Italian 199 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:27.920 Gothic horror directors and in fact collected prints of a lot of their movies. 200 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:34.920 And then he was also a huge champion and did some of the first and 201 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:44.200 still to this day best research into Alexander Patushko's work. So we were able 202 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:49.400 to reprint with Tim and Donna Lucas's kind permission, this long, like thirty 203 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:56.799 seven thirty eight page article that Alan had written before he passed away, And 204 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:06.680 that also is really lovely that his sort of pioneering scholarship and awareness trying to 205 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:12.359 trying to build awareness for Patushka's work as a major fantasy filmmaker finally kind of 206 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:17.519 gets it's due because he's been gone for so long now, I mean it's 207 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:22.839 really it's it's thirty years. But you can appreciate how far ahead of the 208 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:27.640 curve Alan Upchurch was and as far as being ahead of the curve is. 209 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:33.400 You know, he's writing this scholarly appreciation of the films, you know, 210 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:40.640 at the same time it's being mocked on Mystery science theater. Right, one 211 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:48.640 of them was right, we were talking about that the other day about Mystery 212 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:53.839 Science Theater and how sometimes they really I like the show and it's funny, 213 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:59.079 but sometimes they really get into things making fun of movies that I love, 214 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:03.880 and I'm like, I don't know how to feel about this. Too often 215 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:10.680 I remember, it's actually my wife now wife Maria, and I just started 216 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:21.119 dating, and they did an opera production of Hercules in the Haunted World. 217 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:26.039 Can you guys remember hearing about this. They mounted it here in La I 218 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:30.920 think at the Music Center or the Amen Center, and we went to see 219 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:34.200 it because I love Hercules in the Hunted World. It's one of my very 220 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:38.079 favorite AVA films. I think it's one of the great fantasy movies. Just 221 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:45.759 this incredible bejeweled like color phantasmagoria. Just love it everything about it. So 222 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:52.279 we go down to see it, and essentially they were kind of mocking the 223 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:56.759 film, making fun of it throughout. They showed an edited version of it 224 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:04.319 that was cropped from didn't even have the correct aspect ratio, and they chopped 225 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:10.640 like twenty five minutes out of the movie. So the whole experience was look 226 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:17.720 at how dumb and hokey and ridiculous this Italian muscleman movie is and I'm and 227 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:21.839 you know, people were laughing and enjoying themselves, and I'm like, yeah, 228 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:23.960 but you're actually not seeing Hercules in the Haunted World. And this is 229 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:30.880 a fucking great film, and this is really a kind of a you know, 230 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:38.480 a travesty. And I remember a couple of days later, I got 231 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:41.440 a call out of the blue from Barbara Steele, who I knew from the 232 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:48.440 cinematack. She was asking me for some help possibly finding rights contacts overseas for 233 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.759 some of the movies she made, you know, many years ago, and 234 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:56.799 she said, did you go see Hercules in the Herded World? And I 235 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:59.759 said I said yes, I thought it was pretty awful, and she says, 236 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:02.279 I'm god, I thought so too. And then she took a pause 237 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:04.559 and she goes, you don't think they're going to do that to Black Sunday, 238 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:10.039 do you? And I was like, no, no, I hope 239 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:11.920 they don't do it to Black Sunday. But I knew what she was talking 240 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:18.519 about. She's like, you know, these it's almost like you're still fighting 241 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:26.000 the fight to convince people that genre cinema should be taken as seriously. Well, 242 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:32.960 anything put in a different context, you can completely change what it is. 243 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:37.720 I mean, there's there's a it's really funny, but there's a trailer 244 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:41.920 floating around the internet for the Shining, which makes it look like a family 245 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:45.519 comedy, and the trailer completely works. If you didn't know the film at 246 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:49.960 all, you would think this was like some Jack Nicholson comedy from the eighties. 247 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:55.640 It's like, yeah, I mean, it's it's it's kind of cheating, 248 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:59.240 especially if in that case is you know, everyone knows what they're doing, 249 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:03.119 but like you know, going to an opera, but a film and 250 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:10.680 they just completely turn it into something else without you know, it seems like 251 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:15.519 you should at least have a something in the play bill. It's like, 252 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:19.160 you know, this movie isn't stupid, right, We're just having fun. 253 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:26.759 They've also done the film Mystery Science Theater, So did they not? Yeah, 254 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:30.240 is in the Hard Word Theater as well. So I love and I 255 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:37.680 love Mystery Science Theory. We had, you know, one of the the 256 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:42.519 guys is one of the you know creators of the show did a wonderful interview 257 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:48.440 that we included on the Sampo release. It was great. I mean, 258 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:53.240 I actually love watching this. The daily earth froze and the sort of the 259 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:57.000 Dragon episodes and a lot of their things is brilliant. But I also want 260 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:04.240 to go watch the movie separate so that I can actually see in the correct 261 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:12.640 aspect ratio. It's funny reminds me years ago. Also Mario Bavas like all 262 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:18.480 things Mario bob all roads lead to Mario Bava. Eventually, we were doing 263 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:25.599 one of our Bava retrospectives at the Cinematech and we were screening The Whip in 264 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:33.400 the Body his you know, his wonderful sort of s and m tinged Gothic 265 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:41.160 horror with Christopher Lee dubbed unfortunately and Dalia Lavi and uh, somebody came out 266 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:47.000 into the lobby and raged, saying, people are laughing in there and you 267 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:55.519 need to stop them because this is a really wonderful, beautiful movie and people 268 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:59.359 shouldn't be laughing at it. And I said, you know, I am 269 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:03.960 not the behavior police, Like I'm not going to go in there and tell 270 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:11.200 people that they shouldn't laugh or cry or groan like like they're going to They're 271 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:18.400 going to respond how they respond. Yeah, so I'll be the police, 272 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:23.160 stop talking police. But that's how you make somebody stop laughing. And you 273 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:30.839 know, we've had experiences where when we're showing things that your part of the 274 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:37.839 appeal is just how wild things get and how enjoyable it is. That everybody's 275 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:42.279 getting into it. But things like Your Burial Ground and Patrick Still Lives and 276 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:48.559 that are just so outrageous that people are laughing and carrying on, and I 277 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.240 wouldn't want that any other way. Those movies are best enjoyed with that kind 278 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:57.839 of audience. Jesse, since you're here, I want to know, how 279 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.279 how did you start Diabolic? How did how did it get? You know? 280 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:10.160 What was the genesis? The short version is we do these screenings for 281 00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:15.119 Zoom films here in the Philadelphia area. And when we started doing them, 282 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:22.880 it was right in the dying days of video stores, and I would go 283 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:27.599 around to video stores and collect all the horror tapes that they were getting rid 284 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.480 of. I'd go to flea markets and the video stores and they were just 285 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:36.720 trying to get rid of them. People would people would cry if they knew 286 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:40.559 how many copies of Full g Zombie I had in the big box that I 287 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:44.640 sold for next to nothing back in the day. So anyway, we would 288 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.519 bring them to the shows and put them out on a table and they would 289 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.240 all sell. I mean I hardly ever went home with anything. And you 290 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:56.799 know, as as that market started drying up, we were looking for something 291 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.960 else to sell in the lobby of our shows and turned into DVDs, which 292 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:07.000 was the next evolution of of home video. And then here we are, 293 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:12.119 so many years later. That's an amazing story. Yeah, yeah, you 294 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.839 know, Jesse, you're gonna love this. I meant to take a screenshot 295 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.400 and send it to There was a couple of weeks ago somebody was talking about 296 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.200 the most recent aerow sale and how the prices weren't super appealing for the US 297 00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:26.839 Aero titles, and somebody had said, back in the old day of Diabolic, 298 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.200 prices were so much better, And somebody asked them a question and they 299 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:38.160 responded that they were referring to twenty nineteen. Yeah, okay, back in 300 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:45.799 the indies. Yeah, so in the long ago, in the far far 301 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:55.880 away, prices were much different, older than that. Well, I mean 302 00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.799 I think we started I think we started chasing this savage out of king Stack 303 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:07.960 earlier than twenty nineteen. I did actually think we first negotiating with them, 304 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:17.400 like we have deals that they're older than we are now seeing multiple labels that 305 00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:21.279 have been with the OCN now partnering with Diabolics. So obviously people are trusting 306 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:26.880 Jesse and everything that you've been doing. Is there what's the best way to 307 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.680 ask this without getting a very specific response. Is this something that people can 308 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.519 expect? There is there more to come? Because obviously the appeal behind OCEN 309 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.680 was you can get everything in one place, and for many of us all 310 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.920 worldwide, you're already to go into Diabolics. They ship worldwide. You're getting 311 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.079 good service, and now you've got the appeal of you know, exclusives from 312 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.359 Deaf, Crocodile, from Altered Innocence, from Cauldron. There's a lot to 313 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:55.559 offer here. It's true. I don't have any other news at this time 314 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.920 and Altered Innocence, to be fair, we're just kind of doing their limited 315 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.799 audition for them. They're good at they're partnering with somebody else for their normal 316 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:11.519 retail editions. But you know, it's not something I set out to do. 317 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:17.039 You know, when Dennison Craig came to me with this idea and they 318 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:21.519 were they were just shopping around too. You know, it felt like a 319 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:25.000 good fit. So you know, there may be more in the future. 320 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:30.599 But but right now, I'm not actively pursuing anything. Well, one of 321 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.480 the things that the partnership helps with is now def Crocodile has the opportunity to 322 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.799 do bigger and better things that they've been hoping to do for quite some time. 323 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.359 Can you guys share what kind of releases we can expect, not necessarily 324 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:48.319 titles, but what what kind of changes we will see. We've got a 325 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.599 bunch of stuff. I mean, we can tell you what some of the 326 00:28:51.759 --> 00:29:00.359 titles are. So our first official release with Jesse limited edition slipcase and a 327 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:07.079 new kind of longer sixty page booklet is just mentioned. The Savage Hunt of 328 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:15.880 King Stack. It's just this amazing Belarusian folk horror movie that I literally first 329 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.880 heard about over thirty almost thirty five years ago when I first came to work 330 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:25.440 at the Cinema Tech and was on this little list that I kind of keep 331 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:32.319 in the back of my head of really rare, obscure titles. It's a 332 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:38.559 large list. Yeah, largely all have that list, right library. It's 333 00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:42.119 you know that I'm not to interrupt you, but man, sometimes I just 334 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:47.000 cry when those things get crossed off my list. But not by Knae yeah, 335 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:48.880 yeah, yeah, there's been a couple of those already, just since 336 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:53.079 we've started Deaf Crocodile. That's a couple of titles that I've had on my 337 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:57.640 wish lists since our So Delicious days. And then i hear something announced and 338 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:03.240 I'm just like, dah, at least happy it's coming out. At least 339 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.359 yeah, you know, That's what I always say to him. I always 340 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.680 say, I wish it was me, but you know, at least I'm 341 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:17.160 going to get this great version of it. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 342 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:25.599 There's a wonderful Italian film shot in the early sixties in La called Smog that 343 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:30.000 was recently restored by the CLA Film Archive of working with Warner Brothers, and 344 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:38.160 we had chased it down for years because it's got all this incredible shots of 345 00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:45.799 mid century La architecture. It was all shot on location, and it's this 346 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.559 incredible time capsule kind of document of what La looked at looked like at that 347 00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:56.079 moment and now is of course almost entirely gone. And then found out that 348 00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.759 it was being restored and now is going to be released by someone else, 349 00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:03.359 and part of me was like, ah, damn. But then I'm also 350 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.640 like, well, people are going to get to see this great great right 351 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:14.640 so so Savage and of Kingstack is going to come out in July. After 352 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:23.200 that, in no particular order, we're putting out our second Old rich Lipski 353 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:30.839 Yurie Burdechka cech kind of fantasy horror sci fi film, which is Adela has 354 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:40.559 not had Supper yet. This is their wonderful kind of detective man eating plant 355 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:48.079 comedy. It has this incredible carnivorous plant like Audrey and Little Shop of Horrors. 356 00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:57.119 Uh. That was created by Jan Schwankmeyer. Uh. And weirdly it's 357 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.960 the it's the third film. We haven't been able to put out any schunk 358 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:06.079 Meyer movies, which we love to do and have actually tried to. But 359 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:13.559 we've put out three films that he did creature effects or or or monster you 360 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:19.440 know makeup for, uh, The Visitors from the Arcanic Galaxy, The Dusk 361 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:25.559 Croatian sci fi fantasy film, The Mysterious Castle and the Carpathians, which which 362 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:31.480 was also an old rich Lipsky Uri Burdechica collaboration. And now Adela has not 363 00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:37.079 had Supper yet. And and we actually tried he tried to get schunk Meyer 364 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.519 to talk to us about them, and the response we got was no, 365 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:47.160 he's not in he he did that. He did that to pay the bills. 366 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:52.519 She doesn't want to talk about It was like, oh, yeah, 367 00:32:52.079 --> 00:33:00.319 that has got some really cool like steampunk gadget tree through throughout. It's really 368 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:08.559 cool. Yeah, it's super inventive. Let's see we are putting out God 369 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:15.920 after that is they I I mean, I guess we could. Well that 370 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:21.160 was one of the other benefits of is we can talk about whatever we want 371 00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:28.640 whenever we want. So. Yeah, the Karen shachnas Off who did Assassin 372 00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:34.599 of Bazaar and Zero Brad that to both people seem to really like. It's 373 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:40.240 his his new film that'll be coming out. That's a based on a Sherlock 374 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.759 Holmes What was the do you remember? That? Based on The Sign of 375 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:51.079 Four, which is very famous Sherlock Holmes by Arthur Conan Doyle story, but 376 00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:59.559 does not have Sherlock Holmes or doctor Watson. It's kind of amazing and in 377 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:10.559 instead he took two actual characters from Russian history in the late eighteen hundred early 378 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:17.199 nineteen hundreds. One of them, Konstantine Stanislavsky, is very famous for his 379 00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:23.880 acting his work as an acting teacher. The Stanislavsky method you've probably probably heard 380 00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:30.400 of. It was a theater director, and the other was a journalist named 381 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:38.960 Giliarovsky who wrote about the slums of Moscow, and in particular an area called 382 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:46.480 Kotrovka, which was sort of like Moscow's White Chapel or like the moss Isley 383 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:53.000 Spaceport. It was like a hive of common villainy and it was so bad 384 00:34:53.079 --> 00:35:01.000 that after after the Communist Revolution, I had to clean it out and couldn't, 385 00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:09.280 and so they had the Communist army surround the neighborhood with like ten thousand 386 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:14.360 soldiers and they told everyone in the district, you have like three days to 387 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:20.320 leave. They literally just cleared it out till it was a ghost town. 388 00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:25.440 And it's still like Kotrovka Square is still there in Moscow, but of course 389 00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:32.239 the neighborhood itself is long gone. But he sort of melded the stories of 390 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:38.119 the Kotrovka slums with the Sign of Four. And if you're a fan of 391 00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:49.840 like the recent Kenneth Brannock, Hercule Poirot films or the old you know, 392 00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:55.440 Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holm series, it's like a period detective. It's great, 393 00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:04.199 it's super fun, beautiful to look at. Full production design, cinematography and 394 00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:09.920 costumes and cinematography are gorgeous. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a fun 395 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:16.679 period piece detective, you know, mystery. Yeah, yeah, that's so 396 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:20.400 yeah. And we don't put out a whole lot of new films, but 397 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:24.280 that's that's a new one. Uh there is, Okay, I don't think 398 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:31.239 we we haven't announced this yet anywhere, but because we're super excited and it's 399 00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:37.000 a film that we've been working on for a little while now. There's this 400 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:45.760 amazing Irish folk tale, folk horror movie, witchcraft film that we're going to 401 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:52.159 be putting out towards the end of the year called The Outcasts in a beautiful 402 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:59.400 new restoration from the Irish Film Institute Film Archive, and it was written and 403 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:04.400 directed by a British filmmaker who lived in Ireland at the time. This is 404 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:08.880 the early nineteen eighties, was one of the earliest Irish Film Board productions and 405 00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:15.920 his name is Robert Wynn Simmons and folk horror fans will know him because he 406 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:24.639 wrote Blood on Satan's Claw And while there are some connections and similarities, and 407 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:30.920 this is the Outcast is it's a witchcraft movie, it's a ghost story, 408 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.360 it is a folk horror film. But it's also this really beautiful, haunting 409 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:40.039 and poetic film about just how brutal and miserable life was like if you were 410 00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:47.559 a poor farmer in Ireland in the early eighteen hundreds. And it's about a 411 00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:54.920 young woman who's kind of odd and you know, she is really an outcast 412 00:37:54.920 --> 00:38:05.159 who is accused of witchcraft by people in her the local community. And it 413 00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:09.719 is really remarkable. And when Simmons is, you know, thank God is 414 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:15.840 still alive. He lives overseas in Germany now and delighted that we're going to 415 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.599 be putting the film out here for the first time in the US. And 416 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:29.079 is also it turns out, was an incredibly prolific, like teenage filmmaker, 417 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:35.800 Like when he was like fourteen, he went out and made these like twenty 418 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:43.360 thirty minute kind of occult fantasy movies. One he shot in a house that 419 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:49.639 was owned by Mary Shelley of Frankenstein fame. Another, I Kid You Not 420 00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:55.159 features a young Peter O'Toole and Charlton Heston. I did not believe it until 421 00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:02.719 we saw it. And then another is this incredible like twenty five minute kind 422 00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:07.800 of eerie fantasy sci fi called The Scrolls that is almost like an episode of 423 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:16.760 The Avengers meets the Prisoner. The old Patrick macgowin and he was like fifteen 424 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:25.119 years old making these like in whales and this eerie, beautiful cinematography of the 425 00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:35.920 Welsh landscape. And tell him about the reels in a shoe box. Yeah, 426 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.360 they're eight militers. Because he had sent us he had had this stuff 427 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:45.159 like tell us and he ages ago and he had like this little DVD and 428 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.519 so we saw him in a pretty rough condition, but he said that, 429 00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.239 you know, that's all he had. The film was gone. And then 430 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:57.800 about a month or two later he emailed us He's like, I found I 431 00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.400 found the film, the eight milimeter film. Wow. So we heard like, 432 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.920 it looks a lot better than an old you know, telesiny from thirty 433 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:13.480 forty years ago. But the wild thing is is it's all eight millimeter. 434 00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.840 He shot it all when he was a teen, so they're all silent, 435 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:24.760 but they're not completely silent because he then went with a tape recorder and then 436 00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:32.800 he he edited in and tried just to live sync it some dialogue, sound 437 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:38.760 effects, all music like, so we've got we've got the audio from the 438 00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:45.039 original telesiny and it's it's not you know, it's not hard sync anyway, 439 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.519 so we'll be able to get the sound that he put together with his like 440 00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:53.519 tape recorder to sync with the pieces that he has. Yeah, he's got 441 00:40:53.519 --> 00:41:00.000 this one short it's maybe seven eight minutes long, where there's somebody trying to 442 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.360 get rid of this bomb and everywhere he puts it, he can't leave it 443 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:07.880 there or someone takes it, and so it's just like this comedy trying to 444 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.960 get rid of this bomb. And at one point I'm watching it and I'm 445 00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:13.599 like, wait a second, and I pause it and I go back and 446 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:25.800 I was like, there's a three second quick shot of Sammy Davis. I'm 447 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:31.679 like, what if this kid? Like, yeah, Peter O'Toole and Sammy 448 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:38.079 Davis junior, Michael Redgrave and Anthony Ovale. Apparently one of his best friends 449 00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:44.960 at boarding school was the son of the guy that shot Doctor Strangelove. Oh, 450 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:50.960 he's a big cinematographer, so apparently he had access to a camera and 451 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:57.360 they would go hang out at the stage doors of London theaters and wait for 452 00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:02.599 you're a tool Charlton Heston, who I think was doing Shakespeare whoever, and 453 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.920 you know, say, hey, making a movie, will you be in 454 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:14.039 it? And I guess these famous actors were so charmed they were like sure. 455 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:21.079 And to me, this is like, what's part of what's super cool 456 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.960 about what we do with Jesse Ryan. What you do is that you're able 457 00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:31.639 to preserve these little ephemeral bits of film history that would have disappeared. Was 458 00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:37.360 just like slip through the cracks. It's often, you know, we get 459 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.880 so excited about the features, but I have to say we're almost equally excited 460 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:45.800 about about a lot of the short contents or the interviews or things that we 461 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:54.719 do that helped document these movies, especially when the filmmaker is still around. 462 00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.800 And can you know, going back to what I said about fish Go wishing 463 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.920 he were still here, you know, Robert Win Simmons is still alive, 464 00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:08.119 and it's great that he's going to be able to see this. Truly, 465 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:15.719 I mean, The Outcast is a truly remarkable movie that combines several different genres 466 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:22.480 and is a is a major kind of It's it's not lost because it's being 467 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:28.480 restored right now. But has kind of been unseen major Irish film for many, 468 00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:32.880 many years. So that's that's one that we're really excited about. And 469 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:37.960 it's the first time we've ever we haven't talked about it in public, So 470 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:44.199 yeah, just weird coincidences like I play with a I played tennis every weekend 471 00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:49.519 with a guy from Ireland and I mentioned, like when we're going to do 472 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:54.599 the Outcast and he's like, I know the guy who did the soundtrack for 473 00:43:54.639 --> 00:44:02.239 that, so he put us in touch with the with the guy who did 474 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:08.360 the music for the film. Sooney, Yeah, Australian musician who moved to 475 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:13.760 Ireland and is a famous He's played with like the Chieftains. There's a clip 476 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:21.000 of him playing in like a pub in Ireland and Dolly Parton comes in and 477 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.320 he backs her up and it's one of the sweetest, most amazing things. 478 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:28.679 Like thirty years ago. Yeah, my friend was saying, he's like, 479 00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.119 yeah, I remember going out with him and he was recording. He's like, 480 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:35.599 we climbed up on this hill and he was just recording the sound of 481 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:39.800 the wind to like incorporate into like his music, and he was just like 482 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.119 yeah, He's like I think I can I can get you in touch with 483 00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:51.079 him. I'm like, yeah, that is That is one of the things 484 00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.679 I appreciate most about Deaf Crocodile and funny enough about Caldron too. I mean 485 00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:57.800 the amount of people that you all have been able to track down that are 486 00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.599 Party's original productions, like with Cauldron with Agenio or Kalani on the ground in 487 00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:07.280 Italy, getting the most random ass interviews that are like, yeah, I 488 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.320 four of us dated at the time and we're all just involved in the production. 489 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:14.360 You're like, how how do you get all this? And Augenue just 490 00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:17.920 knows everybody. It seems like he knows everybody. It's crazy. And then 491 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:24.920 Craig just plays tennis and it happens together. Oh man, I can't wait 492 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:28.679 to see some of those shorts. That sounds remarkable. Yeah, the shorts 493 00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.000 are wild. But yeah, we're also coming up, Dennis, you should 494 00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:37.559 you should tell them about the the October film because that's your Okay, So 495 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:43.119 we haven't we haven't. We haven't talked about this either, but we're going 496 00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.840 to be uh putting out for the first time on Blu Ray. The first 497 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:53.559 film that I made that I produced and wrote, Trapped Ashes with segments directed 498 00:45:53.639 --> 00:46:00.800 by Joe Dante, Ken Russell, Monte Hellman, John Gata, and Sean 499 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:07.239 Cunningham. We actually had to we had I had to license my own film, 500 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.719 and it was actually not an easy It's not an easy It was kind 501 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:16.360 of ridiculous. We've had many contracts that were much quicker to get done than 502 00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:22.480 the one for Dennis's own film. I have partners, so I had to. 503 00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:27.559 Yeah, it wasn't Dennis's fault I did. It was starting to drag 504 00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.519 on, and there's some deals that we've done and it like happens in like 505 00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:34.679 three four months, and this was going on and on and on, and 506 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.800 I was like, Okay, this would be ridiculous. If I can't actually 507 00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:42.000 license my own movie, I can't track down the rights. What happened? 508 00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:47.920 So that the film materials are stored here in LA at the Academy Film Archive. 509 00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.239 I have them on deposit there. So we're going to do a brand 510 00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:59.559 new scan and new interviews and it'll look, you know, kind of better 511 00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:04.440 than it ever did unless you you know, screened a thirty five millimeter print 512 00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:07.119 of it. So that's super exciting. We're going to put that out in 513 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:12.559 October for Halloween that's awesome for a film, you know. Of course, 514 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:16.400 the bittersweet thing is that number of the people that we made the film with. 515 00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:20.679 Back in two thousand and five, two thousand and six, Monti Hellman, 516 00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:24.000 who's kind of the reason the movie got made because it had been so 517 00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:28.400 many years since he had been able to make a film. We used to 518 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:32.039 go out, like almost every other Friday night, would go out to dinner 519 00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:37.760 Mexican restaurant, and I would hear him talking about all these film projects that 520 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:42.159 were almost going to happen and then fell through or they happened with someone else, 521 00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:46.039 like he was going to direct Buffalo sixty six and then Vincent Gallo wound 522 00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:51.440 up directing himself in and there were all these projects, and I said, 523 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:57.000 Jesus, Monty is such a great filmmaker. I'm going to make a movie 524 00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:01.199 with him, and I'm not going to say to him, this isn't going 525 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.119 to happen like that. I failed. I let you down. And that 526 00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:10.400 literally was what actually motivated me to get the movie done. I was like, 527 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:15.280 I can't go to money and let him down because I've seen it happen 528 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.920 so many many times. And we got to make the movie and you got 529 00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.920 to direct again, and then went on to do his last feature film, 530 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.599 Road to Nowhere, with our friend Steve Gatos and his daughter Melissa. But 531 00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.760 you know, Moni's gone, Ken Russell's gone. Henry Gibson is in the 532 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:37.559 film, is gone. John Saxon. You know, I was super lucky 533 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:44.400 to work with you know these people. I mean John Saxon, my younger 534 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:50.119 brother who's in the film as well. He is an actor. Literally after 535 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.920 every take, he would just come over to me in mouth, I'm working 536 00:48:53.000 --> 00:49:01.400 with Johnson John and I felt the same way. I was like and I 537 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:06.119 had to say, John wasn't the sweetest guy. Oh my god. He 538 00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:07.840 would actually come over to me because I was also the writer and one of 539 00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.559 the producers, and after every take he'd go, do you think do you 540 00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:15.559 think that my you know, my performance was okay? Because I was thinking 541 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.519 this, he was like, He's like he was a young actor starting out. 542 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.400 He's like, maybe I should do it this way. What do you 543 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.239 think Is that really what you meant when you wrote this? And I'd say, 544 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:30.760 I was so one, I was in awe that I was actually sitting 545 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.599 there talking to John Saxon, But two, he was so committed to his 546 00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:45.000 craft. He was clearly such a dedicated actor and you would think, oh 547 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.599 my god. At that point he literally made one hundred and fifty maybe two 548 00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:53.599 hundred films and TV performances, and he could literally phone it. He could 549 00:49:53.679 --> 00:50:01.199 text his performance, and he was a complete opposite. It was so involved 550 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:07.800 and so dedicated. So to me, it's like, it's great to be 551 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:09.599 able to kind of watch it again. It is. It is bittersweet to 552 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:14.719 see absent friends, but that's that's going to be really fun to put out. 553 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:22.400 It's amazing Saxon. Saxon worked with Bava and or Gento and Wes Craven. 554 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:30.360 It's kind of amazing art. I'll tell you a really funny thing because 555 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.360 of course, Joe Dante being a walking encyclopedia of film history, we were 556 00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:40.039 shooting at Universal for the the scenes that are kind of the wrap around that 557 00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:49.599 Joe Dante was directing on the movie studio tour, ironically on some outdoor sets 558 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:59.119 that were destroyed and the disastrous fire that also happened to without Universal telling anyone 559 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.760 burn up all of the like original audio masters for well, I don't know, 560 00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:10.000 like you know, Ella Fitzgerald and Billie Holiday and like Tom Petty and 561 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:14.880 Nirvana, you remember that came out a couple of years ago. So there 562 00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:19.360 was a fire that destroyed these sets and then burned up a warehouse filled with 563 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:23.239 thousands of master recording You remember when that happened. They didn't tell anybody, 564 00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:30.400 of course, not yeah yeah, so so and by like every famous musician 565 00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.719 and band of like the past forty fifty years. But so we shot on 566 00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:42.639 some of those those unfortunately now now destroyed outdoor sets. What John was walking 567 00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.440 up a flight of stairs and Joe Dante stopped him and he said, hey, 568 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:50.320 John, you walked up that exact same set of stairs in nineteen fifty 569 00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:57.960 eight, and it's like universal romantic comedy. Really, just like yeah, 570 00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.239 yeah, yeah, I went back and I checked it and then those act 571 00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:07.079 same flight of steps. Okay, this is insane, all right. That's 572 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.280 kind of why you love the movie industry is that it has so much, 573 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:16.880 so many layers of history and memory. All these future titles will be available 574 00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:22.719 through Diabolic for the limited edition. With those, you're gonna have longer books. 575 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:23.880 You're gonna have I think you said a hard box too, right, 576 00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:30.079 It's gonna be the limited editions now are going to have a hard box slipcase 577 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:37.440 and then a book that minimum sixty page, perfect bound book with we're trying 578 00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:44.320 to get to like longer essays in each one, you know, obviously photos 579 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:49.599 and extra bits, so it'll be it'll be a nice thick book that comes 580 00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:53.840 with every every one of the limited editions, and then the box art will 581 00:52:53.840 --> 00:53:05.480 be commissioning new art for for those nice so that it's it's uh, it's 582 00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:10.239 difficult to wrangle artists. I did it for years prior to Deaf Crocodile, 583 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:16.719 and so I come to expect it, but it could be difficult to to 584 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:23.960 uh be like give an artist a deadline. They don't like those. But 585 00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:29.039 it's working out. We've got we've got some some very cool new artwork coming 586 00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:32.840 for the limited editions. Well and one more thing. Uh, you know, 587 00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:36.679 we got all these future titles we're talking about, but also we just 588 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.159 got a brand new title announced with O C N and I I'm dying to 589 00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:44.639 hear how Dennis explains what Kinzutza is. Can you tell everybody about kin Zatza? 590 00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:52.039 Kens Asa is like Andre Tarkovsky directing Douglas Adams Hitchhiker's Guide to the guy. 591 00:53:54.119 --> 00:54:00.880 Yeah, it's the Samuel Beckett of Soviets sci fi films. It is 592 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:09.039 like waiting for goodo On like on a set on Tatooine from the original Star 593 00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:17.400 Wars. It's a couple average Moscow residents, a construction foreman and a and 594 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:22.519 a poor Georgian student who just happens to be carrying a violin case, so 595 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.480 he's called the violinist, but he's like, I can't play a note of 596 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:31.960 violin and it becomes a running gag, and they meet a homeless man who's 597 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:38.039 got this weird gizmo, and in a flash, they're transported across the galaxy 598 00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:47.679 to an alien planet called Plup, which is kind of completely barren, sort 599 00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:57.840 of post apocalyptic in a kind of road warrior way, but it's visuals that 600 00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:04.800 are ted George Miller esque visual as well. Yeah, it's it's it's quite 601 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:10.440 a film that it's great and and where things like common household matches are like 602 00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:17.719 the most valuable commodity, and clearly it's the entire film was was a kind 603 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:27.400 of satire or parable for the dysfunction of the Soviet state at that time, 604 00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.480 and it's kind of it's sort of like one of the last films of the 605 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:36.400 Soviet Union. It was made a couple of years before the Soviet Union collapsed, 606 00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:45.480 but it clearly is is a kind of metaphor for how disfunctional things were 607 00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:53.280 at that time. And it's really famous in Russia where people are constantly quote 608 00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:57.239 literally quoting the lines. They know all the dialogue off by heart, and 609 00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.159 they had they invent there's an invented language for the film. And it's a 610 00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:06.800 really amazing, amazing movie. And I have to say, the thing that 611 00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:10.280 I am so excited about with this movie, besides the fact that we're putting 612 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:15.159 it out because it's a great film, is that we tracked down one of 613 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:22.360 the leads in the film, Leo Gabriadze no Way, who is the son 614 00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:28.760 of the writer of the film, Raiso Gabriadze, and Leo himself went on 615 00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:36.840 later to become a director and now is the creative director of his father's puppet 616 00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:40.639 theater Into Bill a c. Georgia. And as far as I know, 617 00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:45.719 I don't think Leo has ever given an interview. He's about working on Kinza's 618 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:52.639 eyes incredibly shy. It's one of the few acting roles that he ever did 619 00:56:52.920 --> 00:57:00.639 and I have to say it was incredibly difficult to convince him talk to us, 620 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:04.320 and when he did, it was a lovely conversation, like you talked 621 00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:09.880 for over an hour and shared Also it's a wonderful stories. But the fact 622 00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:17.800 that we were able to actually like get to him and it's so difficult to 623 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:22.400 convince him, and then he finally said, okay, I'll do this and 624 00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:25.400 told all these wonderful stories about the making of kins as Ah. So so 625 00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.960 yeah, we're really excited that that's going to come out and people will will 626 00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:34.760 get to see it. So yeah, it's a super super cool film and 627 00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:37.440 that will be out by the time this airs, right, yep, yeah, 628 00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:45.199 yeah it is. Yes, yes, that will be up. I'm 629 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:47.880 so excited for Abils to see this. While I was working on the visual 630 00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.400 essay for my wife kept checking in because I was trying to get the timing 631 00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.920 of the coup sound and one of the songs that they do just perfect. 632 00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.840 And she's like, I've heard you say that like forty times. What is 633 00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.840 this movie? And I laughed because obviously she's never seen it, and I 634 00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:07.119 said, don't worry, it's a dry movie, and then just kind of 635 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:09.199 laughed knowing that that's like an inside joke and she has no clue what I'm 636 00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:14.360 saying about that. In regards to the film, Yeah, this movie's amazing. 637 00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:17.360 I really hope people check it out because it is gorgeous and steampunk and 638 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.800 just interesting visually on every level and so so odd like what they did to 639 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:27.079 make choices to just to make everything work, and they really went for it. 640 00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.199 There's nothing about this that isn't earnest. It's it's a super fun movie. 641 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:35.079 Yeah. I seen clips from it and night scene steals from it, 642 00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.960 and then so then when I finally like did like sit down and watch it, 643 00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:42.840 some of the visuals really blew me away. I was like, that 644 00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:49.320 is absolutely gorgeous, Like just some incredible visuals that are that for whatever reason, 645 00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.039 when you see clips from the film, those aren't the clips they show, 646 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:55.000 right, which is nice. At least it gives people something to look 647 00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:59.960 forward to. Well, one of the things I learned from speaking with Lee 648 00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:07.119 is that so they shot it way out in the desert where there's only like 649 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:13.760 oil drilling going on, so there was some like like abandoned or you know, 650 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.360 wrecked machinery they were able to incorporate. But pretty much. They had 651 00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:23.880 to fly everything else in and he said that the main spacecrafts and the film 652 00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:32.320 were created. They bought an old Soviet bomber in Moscow and then they cut 653 00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:40.079 it up and welded it together to make these rusted you know, kind of 654 00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:49.519 post apocalyptic vehicles and then ship them many many hours out into the desert for 655 00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:52.079 this film, which is kind of amazing. There's a Fairess wheel in the 656 00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:59.320 movie and so I said, there wasn't a Fairest wheel in the middle of 657 00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.679 the desert. Did you us make it there that He said, no, 658 01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:10.119 no, they bought it, disassembled it and flew they'd fly cargo plane as 659 01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:16.400 fair as we Also that was great. Yeah, Like it's amazing what filmmakers 660 01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:22.760 were able to do before CGI. Right, A lot of this stuff can 661 01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:30.519 be done well. And the earnestness behind like every film and the Deaf Crocodile 662 01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:34.400 catalog is I think something that really ties it all together. From the first 663 01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.840 couple of titles to what's been announced. There's I don't know, there's something 664 01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:39.920 special about it and it's it's one of those rare, uh you know, 665 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:43.599 one of the OC and partner labels where it seems like a lot of people 666 01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.519 that buy one or two seem to go all in for pretty much every title. 667 01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:52.280 So I'm hoping people understand there's no loss of quality that's going to be 668 01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:53.639 happening. In fact, it seems like it's going to be a step up. 669 01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:58.159 One of the big things. Is it going to be one title a 670 01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:02.639 month or are we planning something different than that. We're hoping to be able 671 01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:05.920 to do more than one. I don't want to put too much on your 672 01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:07.760 plate there, Craig. I saw I saw your eyes glaze over there. 673 01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:14.559 I'll allow it if we can. If we can, we'll do more than 674 01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:17.880 one. But no, no promises, because there's only twenty four hours in 675 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:22.960 a day, and and uh, you're looking at all of that crocodile right 676 01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:30.039 now, the big brain Trust. Uh so, yeah, we want, 677 01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:36.320 we want to be able to work work the schedule and and maybe you know, 678 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.679 find some films that that don't need full restorations from from us that that'll 679 01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.440 be easier to fill in, and so we can, so we can try 680 01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:51.760 and work out more than one a month. But it's it's a hope, 681 01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:55.199 it's not a guarantee, right See, Craig is our secret weapon because he 682 01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:59.920 really is a wizard at restoration. And so when people see the Pied Pipe, 683 01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:04.519 when they see a lot of these releases that have come out, you 684 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:12.440 know, visitors from the Arcanic Galaxy, you're seeing hundreds and hundreds of incredible 685 01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:21.159 hours of restoration wizardry on his part. Like we honestly, we could not 686 01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:29.679 release most of what we've put out without Craig's artistry and expertise. Solomon King 687 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:37.199 could not have done I mean, so that's such a huge ace up our 688 01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:42.679 sleeve that Craig is able to restore these films so beautifully and is a perfectionist. 689 01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:50.039 So he's usually tweaking things right before we send them to David McKenzie Fidelity 690 01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:58.320 in Motion. He's like, oh, yeah, David has got incredible patience. 691 01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:01.480 I'm like, yeah, I'm working on it and I'll get to you 692 01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:07.599 as soon as i can. Although we needed to, Tyler Fegerstrom needs a 693 01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:13.480 shout out. He he does a lot of our color work, and Solomon 694 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:21.519 King couldn't happened without Tyler's He's just amazing with what he can do with with 695 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.760 color grading. And you know, through through some Delicious and then through through 696 01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:31.360 the years working with him. It wasn't uh he didn't start off with the 697 01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:39.639 color grading restoration. Uh you know he was. He was color grading you 698 01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:45.320 know, new features and commercials, and we just kept throwing stuff at him 699 01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.800 and saying, hey, can you fix this? And uh, he's become 700 01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:55.079 quite the expert at it now. And yeah, I'd be lost without him, 701 01:03:55.239 --> 01:04:00.199 I have to say, man, and hopefully you can tell let we 702 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:03.199 get really excited because we're film lovers. And I think the great thing about 703 01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:08.239 Jesse is as long as you know, we've we've known him, is that 704 01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:14.119 clearly, Jesse, you still love movies. You haven't gotten like jaded or 705 01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:20.320 burnt out on films. And we can feel the same way. Yeah. 706 01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:24.840 Yeah, I'm always I'm so excited all the time to discover new things. 707 01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:30.159 There's always there's there is such a wealth of films that have yet to be 708 01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:35.960 discovered. And I think that that's one of the great things about Deaf Crocodile 709 01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:42.559 is that the curation is just so great. There's there's all these gems you 710 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:49.119 guys have unearthed that that finally are finding an audience here in the States. 711 01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:54.280 I have to say that is one of the super exciting things because you think, 712 01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:59.119 Okay, you know, you know, we think we've exhausted this. 713 01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:02.920 You know, you know this vein, you know, it's like it's like 714 01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:11.199 a vein of silver gold or and then somebody will email into us and like 715 01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:17.800 suggest fifteen titles that's actually worth worth mentioning. Yeah, we get we get 716 01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:25.960 emails, not daily but almost daily at this point from somebody, either emails 717 01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:30.000 or message messages on social media, like, oh, if you looked at 718 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:31.559 this film, if you checked out this film, like I love all these 719 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:35.800 other films you did, you probably would like these. And there's some gems 720 01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.920 in there that we've never like, stuff Dennis hasn't even heard of, which 721 01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:44.480 is that's not easy to do, right, We'll look at it. We're 722 01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:45.559 like, hey, that looks kind of cool. We should look into that. 723 01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:53.920 So yeah, keep the suggestions coming everyone. It's it's it's really helpful 724 01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:59.840 because yeah, no nobody knows everything. So yeah, he's in the he's 725 01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:06.679 a the hive mind to find stuff is really important. I hope you give 726 01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:11.159 us more. Bill Plimpton, it sounds like he's into it. We hope, 727 01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:14.199 So we hope. So for sure, I was very happy. Jill 728 01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:16.960 interviewed him, where he seemed open to the idea as well, so like, 729 01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:24.880 yes, please, we floated it to him, he's We're like, 730 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.440 we would love to continue putting out Bill Plimpton movies. So I think he 731 01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:38.199 was so busy with finishing Slide Slide was Clyde was really taking up one hundred 732 01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:44.400 percent, Like he was completely focused on getting that wrapped up. And I 733 01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:45.800 was lucky they screened it in LA and I got to see it. It's 734 01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:50.119 it's a fun movie. It's still out there winning awards right now. It's 735 01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:55.440 it's fun. But I say, like we were saying before, like sometimes 736 01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.119 as much as we love to feature, some of the extras that we have 737 01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:05.440 on the discs are just as good. And I've watched Guard Dog. I 738 01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:11.760 could watch that thing just in a loop. It's so good. And I 739 01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:14.480 mean, you know, I'm a I'm a cat person, but I do 740 01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:21.360 I do love dogs, and that is so funny and cute and and it's 741 01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:27.400 got the dark sense of humor, which is just I like I said, 742 01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:29.760 I could put that on a loop and just watch it over and over and 743 01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:34.000 over. Agreed, Jesse. I was gonna ask, is there anything that 744 01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:40.800 you've watched on disc recently that really blew you away that really I saw this 745 01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:46.920 odd movie called The Mysterious Castle and the Carpathians that I really like. That's 746 01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:56.079 actually true, that it is really odd. It's like a goth It's sort 747 01:07:56.079 --> 01:08:00.559 of like a goth steampunk Benny Hill episode or something. Yeah, it's so 748 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:04.920 bizarre it shouldn't work, but it does. It's really really wonderful. Yeah, 749 01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:08.559 yeah, I liked it a lot. You know what else I watched 750 01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:15.840 recently that I really liked was The Lady Killers, which is kind of out 751 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.800 of what I would normally watch. I don't know what made me put it 752 01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:24.479 on, but it's the Alliginnis movie where they were running a boarding house from 753 01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:30.279 this sweet old lady and and kind of nothing goes right with this heist that 754 01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:38.159 they've got planned, and mostly because she's so into their business. But I 755 01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:45.199 really liked it. It's so charming. Was Alec Gannis ever young thirty years 756 01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:50.520 before Star Wars and I was I think he looks older in the movie than 757 01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:57.439 he does as Obi Wan, which was odd. If you see him in 758 01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:02.880 Great I think he is he in Great Expectations. And the Oliver twist that 759 01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:13.439 David Lean version. Technically he was young. I don't think he looked he's 760 01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:23.359 the oldest pip in all of all time. Yes, I love The Lady 761 01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:27.600 Kellers. That's a great movie. Yeah, it was really great. That 762 01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:29.680 four K looked pretty excellent. I don't know if that's what the one you 763 01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:34.079 watch that Studio Canal four K is pretty remarkable. Yeah. I have so 764 01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:40.439 much of my collection is things that arrive to me in a condition that I 765 01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:44.720 can't sell, but I can still watch them. So, you know, 766 01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:49.560 I have so many scratching dent things sitting on my shelf that I'm like, 767 01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:53.399 well, I don't know what to do with this, but I'm I guess 768 01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:59.439 I'm gonna watch it at some point. But answer that one. I h 769 01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:04.439 One of the ones that really stuck out for me is I watched Richard Lester's 770 01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:13.720 Juggernaut with Richard Harris and Omar Shariff and a young Anthony Hopkins. You ever 771 01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:19.600 seen It's it's kind of it's mid seventies. Technically, it's a disaster film 772 01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:29.680 because it's about someone who plants seven canisters of explosives on a luxury liner at 773 01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:38.880 sea, and of course blackmails the British government or they'll set off these canisters. 774 01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:44.600 And Richard Harris is a bomb disposal expert who with his team, including 775 01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:51.560 David Hemmings, is helicoptered onto the boat. But it's much closer in tone 776 01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:57.920 to something like the Taking of Pelham one, two three. It's really kind 777 01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:05.159 of lean and dark. Uh, it's really impressive. I mean I love 778 01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:11.560 some of these films. I love you know, the Towering Inferno and the 779 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:16.920 Side Adventure, and you know about the Bucks, the the disaster films Bucks 780 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.239 that they came out, was it last year? Yeah? I bought that 781 01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:29.600 from my brother for Christmas. You know, all the Arwin Allen ones, 782 01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:38.239 right, Yerno and those are great. You know, when I was a 783 01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:45.119 kid, I was I was kind of obsessed with the airport movies. I 784 01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:47.479 don't know what it was about them, but I just was, and they 785 01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:50.880 frightened me and I hated getting on an airplane. After watching this, I'm 786 01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:54.159 gonna be at the bottom of the ocean. I mean, I'm flying from 787 01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:58.159 here to Texas, but somehow I'm gonna be on the bottom of what's your 788 01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:04.279 favorite I you know, honestly, it has been so long since I watched 789 01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:09.439 any of those, but the one where they where they go where they crash 790 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:14.479 into the ocean is the favorite too. I think it's seventy seven. Yeah, 791 01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:19.960 Lee, And oh that one, said Jimmy Stewart, And that one's 792 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:25.199 pop notch. If you want to get terrified at getting on a plane again. 793 01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:30.920 Watched this week tonight. His episode last week was about Boeing. Oh 794 01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:38.800 yeah, it's terrifying. I was the idiot when I lived in southern California 795 01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:41.840 when the north Ridge quake happened, and then I don't know if it was 796 01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:45.760 morbid curiosity, but I was stuck on that movie Earthquake for like the four 797 01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:49.000 years following that. I was the only kid in elementary school just rewatching Earthquake. 798 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:58.840 For some reason. I loved it because because after it's Ava Gardner, 799 01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:01.840 right, I think, so, yeah, it's like his wife that he's 800 01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:06.560 cheating on, and said he dives in and they both drowned together, which 801 01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:10.720 I was like, that's better. The only the only scene I remember from 802 01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:14.359 that film is when they're walking across the dam and it starts to crack. 803 01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:21.399 I just remember that that image vividly. For some reason, you know, 804 01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:27.720 oddly, I've never seen the the Italian is it? I think it's a 805 01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:32.279 Diadado movie. There's the air Airport movie that he whipped off. It's like 806 01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:39.199 the Concorde affair. Oh wow, Yeah, there is an Italian ripoff of 807 01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:42.399 the airport movies that I've never seen. I don't know why. I mean, 808 01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:44.680 it's right in my wheelhouse. I don't know why I've never seen it. 809 01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:49.239 Oh no, I got to check this puppy. Yeah. I also 810 01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:55.039 kind of in that. Uh, it's it's uh. I guess you definitely 811 01:13:55.039 --> 01:13:59.920 called the disaster movie. Is the Cassandra Crossing? Well, George, because 812 01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:05.239 that's a damn good film. Cosmatis was a really good, solid genre filmmaker. 813 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:12.680 Totally movies he did. I mean, and even if you want to 814 01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:17.039 talk about Tombstone or Leviathan, those movies are great. Lovel Tom says, 815 01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:24.039 Oh my god, good, it's better than it should be. Uh. 816 01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:29.840 How Val Kilmer did not get nominated and win an Oscar It's insane. For 817 01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:34.760 Doc Holliday, he's great. Yeah, I'm not sure that he's a great 818 01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:41.640 actor, but his performance is Doc Holiday is truly brilliant. He's put in 819 01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:46.199 some other really good performances, really can really bring it. I thought he's 820 01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:53.600 really good in Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang. Actually another absolute really good. 821 01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:56.720 He is kind of looking like, yeah, no, Val Kilmer sucks. 822 01:14:56.760 --> 01:14:59.960 No, I was. I was stuck on what Jesse was talking about, 823 01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:04.079 and I just found Concord Affair seventy nine and found out Mimsy Farmer is second 824 01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:12.239 building that. Oh Memsy Farmer Wow from She and Moore. I think the 825 01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:17.079 Barbee Schroeder film, I think so yeah, and four Flies on Gray Velvet. 826 01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:23.880 Yeah, she's definitely into Italian you know, genre films. More More 827 01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:30.960 is a great sort of psychedelic drug movie. Yeah, that's a terrific early 828 01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:33.880 early Barbee Schroeder movie. Yeah. Yeah, Well, it is about to 829 01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:38.920 be midnight for Jesse. Uh, and I know we're discussing Val Kilmer. 830 01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:44.359 Uh after midnight, any any more news that we would like to pass on 831 01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:51.600 about anything? I mean, whoa, Sorry, guys, I was looking 832 01:15:51.640 --> 01:16:00.239 at Memsy Farmer and IMDb played some music going down the Mindsy Farmer Rabbit. 833 01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:09.119 When this When this airs, we'll still have the pre order up for Ninja 834 01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:15.880 Terminator, which is which is our collaboration with uh Jared from Mondo Micabre that 835 01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:21.520 we call that the Neon Eagle label where we're kind of focusing on trashy Asian 836 01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:28.760 cinema and it's due out in April. We just we just watched the check 837 01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:32.199 disc h and you know, honestly, I don't I don't think I've ever 838 01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:36.640 seen the movie before. There's so many of those I f D movies where 839 01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:45.640 they cobble together, you know, some other movie and got some American actors 840 01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:50.760 and and made it a completely different movie. It's it's great, it's so 841 01:16:50.880 --> 01:17:00.239 much fun, and it really has I think an influence on Mortal Kombat because 842 01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:03.960 all the ninjas can you know, shoot smoke out of their swords or fire, 843 01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:09.600 and they're teleporting all over the place and it's it's wild. And the 844 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:12.319 one guy's always got a suit on, which kind of fascinated me for some 845 01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:17.239 reason. He's always fighting in a suit. Spoiler his suit gets ripped at 846 01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:24.720 one point and he gets really mad. And then we have the Houses of 847 01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:31.760 Doom box set, which was at a television Italian Italian television series where Fulgi 848 01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:38.560 made two movies and and Berto Lenzi made two movies and then they decided they 849 01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:44.079 were too too violent for Italian television and just kind of went into the vaults 850 01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:48.840 and they've been floating around on DVD for a long time. But they told 851 01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:53.000 us that no one had ever gone back and scanned the negatives that they were. 852 01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:58.840 Any release had just been an old video master. So we were really 853 01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.319 thrilled to get a crack at those and they were in great condition, except 854 01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:06.600 they were just dusty from sitting around. I don't know how that happens, 855 01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:11.600 how these films get dust, you know, many layers into them, but 856 01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:17.560 it happened. So you know that that box that's coming out hopefully before July, 857 01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:25.680 but July is the projected date, and that's a Cauldron film's proper release. 858 01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:30.880 And I'll give a shout out to my partner Brian Izzy, who much 859 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:36.960 like Craig, is the whiz here at Cauldron and has brought so many things 860 01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:45.760 back to life here that that we're just so dirty and scratchy and and we 861 01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:47.560 thought they were never going to see the light of day, and spent so 862 01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:51.600 many hours just going frame by frame and cleaning these things up. In fact, 863 01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:59.239 YouTube Craig and Brian should should get together and have have take I'm sure 864 01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:02.239 you'd have lots of talk about. So that's what's going on in the in 865 01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:09.239 the Cauldron, Realm and Diabolic of course, is just chugging along with you 866 01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:14.359 know, we are in such a golden era of everything that's coming out. 867 01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:19.439 It's just really amazing. Every time something gets announced, I'm just thrilled, 868 01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:23.920 not just because I'm going to sell it and make money, but also because 869 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:27.239 hey, I'm going to see this movie. It's I can't believe that someone's 870 01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:30.760 doing this. It's terrific. Well maybe, you know, just as an 871 01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:32.279 inside thing, that might be a good thing to end this on, because 872 01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:40.079 obviously the last twenty five thirty years has been physical media home videos dying. 873 01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:43.800 But it seems like there is, like for the first time in quite some 874 01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:46.960 time, a little bit of an upswing happening. And I would imagine the 875 01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:50.760 three of you obviously see this, but there are you know, these once 876 01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:54.600 in a lifetime titles that people said would never happen. I mean, even 877 01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:57.560 the House is a doomed thing. Like the fact that we live in a 878 01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:01.000 world where that's not not only getting a release, but a six disc hard 879 01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:05.640 box extravagant. Oh my god, this is incredible release like that wouldn't have 880 01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:13.039 happened ten years ago from the negative and that's something that we don't stress enough 881 01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:18.000 for sure. Yeah, So how do you guys feel about the optimism of 882 01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:21.760 the next few years, because I know, obviously there was an interview with 883 01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:26.439 a couple of people in the last couple of years that said basically a lot 884 01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:29.079 of these companies would be gone in the next handful of years, and it 885 01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:34.600 seems like we're kind of refuting that every day. At the moment, I 886 01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:41.600 think that I think maybe there's a little too many cooks right now. We'll 887 01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:45.000 see what happens with that. But I'm here for it. I mean, 888 01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:49.840 you know, everybody dipping in here and looking for things and finding these movies. 889 01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:59.680 It's it's terrific. And you know, I think back to when we 890 01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:08.560 start art at Diabolic and and how few labels there were doing anything. You 891 01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:13.720 know, Anchor Bay was kind of the big one. And and you know, 892 01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:16.800 in a lot of ways, Anchor Bay is kind of the patron saint 893 01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:21.640 of of everything that's going on right now because if it wasn't for them, 894 01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:30.520 and you know, and and David Gregory and and and Bill Lustig and you 895 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:35.520 know, kind of saving all these things that that who knows what would be 896 01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:43.600 what there would be without those guys right. I remember when they first started 897 01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:49.600 putting out their Hammer releases. Yeah, and that was so exciting to see 898 01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:57.479 so many of those Hammer films, like you know, Done Justice and you 899 01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:06.560 know, uh this great Clamshell VHS releases. There's a DVD. So yeah, 900 01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:14.720 it was Baker Bay was something. So that's off the fantastic. In 901 01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:18.319 typical fashion, we had four people that like talking about movies and were our 902 01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:25.359 twenty two minutes in and I just realized there's two important things that we forgot 903 01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:34.760 to mention at all. Well, we get sidetracked very easily. We're going 904 01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:42.800 to be offering a subscription. Okay, yeah, that was probably worth mentioning 905 01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:49.560 about an hour ago. So we're gonna have to to u two flavors available 906 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:58.880 six months and twelve months, and that will guarantee you the the limited edition 907 01:22:59.119 --> 01:23:03.000 of every title for either six months or twelve months or one rather one a 908 01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:08.319 month, guaranteed one a month, because we did talk about hopefully being able 909 01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:13.159 to do more and if we are, those will we'll have like a coupon 910 01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:16.880 code for people to get a good discount on it if there's an extra disc 911 01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:23.520 that month, but it'll guarantee you the the limited edition. You haven't got 912 01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:30.119 to worry about that selling out or anything. And we've been putting you know, 913 01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:34.720 the the movie trading cards and shipments that we send out. So we're 914 01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:43.560 going to create a nice collectible you know, foil stamped or pilot gram or 915 01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:46.800 some some quite a cool, cool trading card, Uh, just for the 916 01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:53.000 subscribers and one of my what am I to make sure I'm not missing anything? 917 01:23:54.359 --> 01:24:01.159 Yeah, So that'll uh, once the the goes out, the it'll 918 01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:06.479 be open to enroll for that, and the enrollment will close June thirtieth, 919 01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:12.399 So we've got like about a you know, two months to decide if you 920 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:15.840 want the six months of the twelve month and then it'll start with the Savage 921 01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:21.239 ton of King Stack would be the first shipment of the subscription. So yeah, 922 01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:29.680 people have been asking about it and and yeah, we're trying to figure 923 01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:32.560 out how we could make sure it could do. And it's a huge part 924 01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:40.279 of it is is being able to have Jesse on board today. Yeah, 925 01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:45.079 there's only so much packing and shipping I can do from home on my own 926 01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:50.199 to be restoring a film. So yeah, we're excited to be able to 927 01:24:50.199 --> 01:24:56.439 offer that coming up. And then we did. Dennis and I did discuss 928 01:24:56.479 --> 01:25:02.880 that that we probably could and or should mentioned the worst kept secret release that 929 01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:09.119 we're going to be doing. Uh so yes, in fact, officially we 930 01:25:09.279 --> 01:25:15.359 are going to be releasing Felly Day. What it will be our first four 931 01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:23.800 K HDR Dolby Vision. We've got gorgeous, beautiful four K scans from the 932 01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:29.439 original negative and I was looking through them. I haven't really dove into the 933 01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:32.800 restoration of it yet, but the the scans look incredible. Uh, it's 934 01:25:32.840 --> 01:25:39.319 going to be a beautiful release. We've it was weird. I was trying 935 01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:43.239 to find somebody who worked on it, because Dennis did interview the director. 936 01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:45.000 But I was trying to find maybe some of the animators, and I was 937 01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:49.279 looking at IMDb and there's a, you know, long list of names, 938 01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:58.119 and I literally just randomly picked one and googled and sent an email and he 939 01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:01.920 got back to me and us in touch with like six other people. So 940 01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:09.199 we've got this incredible Like Dennis conducted like a roundtable discussion with all the animators 941 01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:15.239 talking about the film, which was this year's it's thirtieth anniversaries. It was 942 01:26:15.319 --> 01:26:20.000 kind of this cool little thirty year reunion for all these guys who are now 943 01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:27.199 all around the world getting together and talking about the film, and really really 944 01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:32.319 cool interview with all those guys. I told you we commissioned new artwork for 945 01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:38.680 the special editions. Super exciting about this one, as we've got the characters 946 01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:45.119 designer for the film is going to be doing the cover art. So yeah, 947 01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:51.119 that's amazing. It's you know, I'm an animation geek, crazy cat 948 01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:57.880 person, and a film buff, so you have no idea how excited I 949 01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:03.520 am about this release. Other cat movie, We're actually gonna have three animated 950 01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:14.560 cat features. You have another one. You're thinking about putting out an animated 951 01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:25.560 cat box, but I don't know, little little prayers or something, just 952 01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:30.159 a little cat up in every box. Yeah, it's so weird that we're 953 01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:36.000 going to put out three cartoon cat features. It wasn't wasn't intentional, but 954 01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:41.800 yeah, I'm I'm very excited about Pelly Day and with all the animators we 955 01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:45.960 got in touch with. We've got like this treasure trove of of sketches and 956 01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:53.960 character designs and story boards, and I mean, I don't know yet, 957 01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:58.279 but I mean we have so much stuff that the sixty page book might have 958 01:27:58.319 --> 01:28:02.439 to be more than sixty pages for this because there's so much stuff. So 959 01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:10.000 yeah, four k HDR Dolby Vision Cats, George, the song, oh 960 01:28:10.079 --> 01:28:14.640 yeah, the theme song George, the theme song to Kelly Day the film 961 01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:24.600 that the German film has an English opening title song by boy George. Wow, 962 01:28:26.279 --> 01:28:30.119 it's amazing. I mean one I was I was looking through some of 963 01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:32.319 the sketches that that that he had sent us, and he's got some early 964 01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:36.439 design sketches and he's got a little word balloon around it and it says, 965 01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:42.880 I look a little too much like a Don Bruth blue character, don't I 966 01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:49.279 which because we're talking to the animators and the weird yeah, they all they 967 01:28:49.319 --> 01:28:56.840 all came from Don Bluth. But also there was this weird discord but like 968 01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:03.039 everyone knew like this is a really dark movie. Yeah, like they're trying 969 01:29:03.399 --> 01:29:10.479 like they were trying to get away from the Don Bluth looks. So it's 970 01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:13.279 and then when they they said when the movie came out, like you know, 971 01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:15.439 the poster with the happy little cat and they're like, what are you 972 01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:19.399 do we because they said they had people like you know, parents taking their 973 01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:24.640 kids out of the theater because they're like, this is this is not what 974 01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:31.439 you shold us dissections. There's it's more it's much more like the water, 975 01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:40.640 like an R rated Don Bluth movie. So the the animation style does shift. 976 01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:45.119 So there's there's the the main story, which is very Don Bluth looking, 977 01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:50.359 but there's a series of dream sequences where Francis, the lead cat has 978 01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:58.479 has nightmares and they have a completely different animation style. That's that's really Those 979 01:29:58.560 --> 01:30:02.079 dream sequences are absolutely incredible. I'm very excited about this film. You can 980 01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:08.520 probably tell me too. I tried tracking down the novel recently, and that 981 01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:13.119 thing is hard to get a good copy of. I've seen it pop up 982 01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:17.520 on eBay occasionally, but but yeah, I've I don't know if they're English 983 01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:23.920 translated, yeah, half or half art. That's the hard part. We 984 01:30:24.039 --> 01:30:29.279 even found a I don't even I don't know if it's an official but there 985 01:30:29.359 --> 01:30:34.439 there was a graphic novel, comic book. There's a there's a comic book 986 01:30:34.840 --> 01:30:41.039 adaptation of the book which follows and they and they, and we talked about 987 01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:46.039 it that some of the character designs in the comic are based on the book. 988 01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:51.479 So like Francis Is the lead cat is as like an orange tabby in 989 01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:57.479 the comic because it's he's not in the movie, so there's some some differences 990 01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:01.079 between the two. I was gonna try and try and see you. I 991 01:31:01.079 --> 01:31:05.760 don't think it's official, so it's certainly the English version I think is just 992 01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:12.319 somebody on their own translated it and posted it online. So I don't think 993 01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:18.439 there's an official English version. But yeah, very excited. So we we 994 01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:24.560 are super stoked to be working with Jesse. Yeah, it's mutual. Thanks 995 01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:28.520 guys. Yeah, it's like a whole new, whole new era. You 996 01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:32.039 know. We we've actually really enjoyed working with Ocen and Vinegar syndrome. It 997 01:31:32.119 --> 01:31:39.359 gave us a chance to sort of kind of you know, get established, 998 01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:43.840 start to spread our wings. I think this is you know a good time 999 01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:49.039 for us to be, you know, moving on and trying new things, 1000 01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:55.800 and and certainly working with Jesse is like, is super exciting for us. 1001 01:31:56.279 --> 01:31:59.960 Yeah, thanks, same. Do we do we forget anything else, Craig 1002 01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:08.039 before we wrap the two things I thought of it's like SPUs to mention well, 1003 01:32:08.079 --> 01:32:12.520 as as we mentioned during the show, check out def Crocodile through Diabolic. 1004 01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:15.079 Check out the subscription you got the next couple of months to look into 1005 01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:18.760 that. As Jesse mentioned looking to Neon, Eagle and Cauldron, lots of 1006 01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:23.359 cool stuff coming out the rest of the year. I'm sure all three of 1007 01:32:23.359 --> 01:32:28.000 you, I really just want to say to everybody watching, support boutiques that 1008 01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:31.680 love movies. Support boutiques that love the people that support them. And you 1009 01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:35.239 can tell, you know, when you're getting some of these choices made. 1010 01:32:35.399 --> 01:32:39.760 It's it's clear that they are passionate about these like we are. So I 1011 01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:44.439 appreciate what all three of you do and hope for a very successful immediate future. 1012 01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:48.319 Yeah. I just recently greeted I saw I saw and packing up orders 1013 01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:54.640 and like just seeing the same names every month. It's just it's just true. 1014 01:32:54.680 --> 01:32:57.000 It's just like I was like, that's just awesome. I'm like, 1015 01:32:57.079 --> 01:33:00.800 it's it's so cold to see that. You know, there's people and a 1016 01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:05.239 lot of people that the online shop allows them to put notes. You know, 1017 01:33:05.319 --> 01:33:09.279 sometimes it'll be like ring the doorbell, but a lot of times people 1018 01:33:09.279 --> 01:33:13.920 are just writing these like really nice notes thanking us, and it's it's really 1019 01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:18.159 nice, Like the ring the doorbell. I'm really loving you guys are doing. 1020 01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:23.479 Make sure to ring the doorbell in the box to the left of the 1021 01:33:23.560 --> 01:33:29.159 gate behind the hose. There are some that are very specific and they're like, 1022 01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:35.039 I'm like, do you think I'm hand delivering this thing? I call 1023 01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:42.199 your mail carrier. I let him and give that note. But it's very 1024 01:33:42.279 --> 01:33:49.159 nice. It's like the vast majority of people I've interacted with have been super 1025 01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:56.800 nice, super supportive, and and I really appreciate it. We we also 1026 01:33:56.880 --> 01:34:06.520 have just such great customers, except for the ones I post about sincerely though, 1027 01:34:06.760 --> 01:34:14.039 it really is. It's such a great camaraderie of of people. It's 1028 01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:20.479 the community of of of collectors and film lovers and uh, it's it's really 1029 01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:26.319 great. Well, thank you all. I know everybody needs some sleep, 1030 01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:31.119 so thank you all for doing this, staying up for everything you do to 1031 01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:38.680 help promote and champion these releases and independent lables and everybody you do an amazing 1032 01:34:38.760 --> 01:34:45.479 job. So so much. Thank you, Ryan, Ryan Is, there 1033 01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:48.600 was a I think it's been proven to be faked, but there was an 1034 01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:55.560 image that came out on the internets of sleeping and everyone knows that that's not 1035 01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:59.159 possible. With all the things he's doing to have time to speak, I'm 1036 01:34:59.159 --> 01:35:00.600 gonna end the record so there's no more evidence of that. Thank you. 1037 01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:05.880 Thank you for listening to the Disconnected podcast. There's one big thing that you 1038 01:35:05.880 --> 01:35:09.319 could do to help the show, and that is to leave a rating and 1039 01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:38.880 review on the podcast service of your choice. Thank you, Tell me No 1040 01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:46.399 Hello. This is Chris Askell from They Live by Film. For those that 1041 01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:49.760 don't know us, Adam Zach and I. We built the podcast over the 1042 01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:55.560 last two years. That's a combination of film discussion from three very different perspectives, 1043 01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:58.840 as well as industry interviews with the leaders in Boutique, Blu Ray, 1044 01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:02.199 and four Kid Community. We started with dev Crocodile, but over time we've 1045 01:36:02.239 --> 01:36:05.920 been lucky enough to speak with Aero Video, Severn, Mondo, Macabre, 1046 01:36:06.159 --> 01:36:11.720 Vinegar Syndrome, Radiant Syndicator, most of the OCN partner labels. It's been 1047 01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:15.880 a blast. You can find us wherever you podcast and also actually recently as 1048 01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:20.520 part of someone's favorite production podcast network. We hope to see you online.