WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:14.439 Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts, 2 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:19.679 Delia here with my real tight homegirl Beatrice. She's also my daughter in 3 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:25.640 law, the best daughter, and we like to watch trashy TV and then 4 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:29.239 talk about it. Yeah, that's what this podcast is. That's what we 5 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:34.719 do. And today what we're doing is talking about vander Pump Rules. What 6 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:38.399 are we on? Episode four, Episode five, Episode five? I know, 7 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:43.159 God, we need to be getting into some actual content and drama. 8 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:47.079 Are we just on a tom Sand of All Redemption tour? I can't with 9 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:50.640 that. I don't want to have sympathy for this dude. 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Right before we get into the episode, there were a couple 28 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:07.959 of items in the news that came forth, one regarding Raquel or Rachel Levice 29 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:14.599 and another regarding Tom and Ariana and their continuing attempts to try and deal with 30 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:17.479 the house that they both own. Okay, so let's start with Raquel. 31 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:29.840 Rachel came out today that she is suing Tom Sandoval and Ariana Maddox for revenge 32 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:35.840 porn? What like, for her revenge porn for her well, for porn? 33 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:42.280 So what ended up happening was Arianna went into Tom's phone one night while 34 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:46.520 Tom was performing with the Most Extras. She had a womanly intuitive hunch. 35 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:52.800 She went into his phone. She saw a video of Tom and Raquel or 36 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:58.680 Rachel having FaceTime sex. She sent that video to herself, which I believe 37 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:02.560 she admitted on the show, and that is the distribution I think of the 38 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:07.159 revenge porn. I'm not sure if Tom sent it around. I'm not sure 39 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:13.159 who Arianna showed it to if she did, but it sounds like Raquel is 40 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:20.479 maintaining that they distributed this sexual video, and she's also saying she had she 41 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:25.879 was not somebody who consented. So again, Tom recorded their FaceTime sex, 42 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.680 Yeah, without her knowing. So then sue, Tom, why are you 43 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:35.800 doing Ariana? I think that's stupid personally. I mean, I don't know, 44 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:37.680 and I'm like, fuck around and find out. Raquel, Like, 45 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:39.960 I mean, you fucked around with Tom Sandoval. He's a piece of shit, 46 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:44.560 He's a scumbag. I'm not saying she deserves this, because nobody deserves 47 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:47.280 revenge porn, but I'm just like, did she know that the porn existed? 48 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:50.639 Like, did she know he recorded it? I don't think she knew 49 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.800 that she did not know that he recorded it, and I don't believe that 50 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:57.319 she knew that it existed, not until it was distributed. And this is 51 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:02.400 how Ariana found out. And then Ariana told Sena while Shehena and Raquel were 52 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:05.439 in New York to do watch What Happens Live. I'm not sure if she 53 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:11.199 sent it to Sena. She may have. And then that's when Shina punches 54 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:15.319 Raquel and they get the restraining order and this whole thing starts to go down. 55 00:04:15.519 --> 00:04:19.920 Well, there is a statement that was released by Rachel's attorney. I'm 56 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:21.959 not gonna read the entire thing, but I'm going to read part of it. 57 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:27.199 And then there is another attorney who's weighing in about the veracity of this 58 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.360 case, like whether it has legs. Oh god, Okay. From Rachel's 59 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:38.079 lawsuit, they say Scanned of All injected New Life into a previously faltering series, 60 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:43.519 causing its viewership to explode to unseen levels and making its cast members mega 61 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:49.079 celebrities due to a narrative deliberately fomented by Bravo Evolution, and the cast Levis 62 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:55.319 became an object of public scorn and ridicule. To be clear, Levis has 63 00:04:55.399 --> 00:05:00.800 repeatedly acknowledged that her actions were morally objectionable and deeply hurtful traumatic. She has 64 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.439 offered numerous apologies. There is more to the story, however, Lost in 65 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:10.560 the mix was that Levis was a victim of the predatory and dishonest behavior of 66 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:17.800 an older man who recorded sexually explicit videos of her videos m laural Interesting without 67 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:25.439 her consent, which were then distributed, disseminated, and discussed publicly by a 68 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:31.120 scorned woman seeking vengeance. That's Ariana catalyzing the scandal. Levis ultimately checked herself 69 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:35.600 into a mental health facility and remained there for three months while Bravo, Evolution 70 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:44.600 and the Cast milked the interest her exoriation had peaked. To make matters worse, 71 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.879 Levis was misled by Bravo and Evolution into believing that she was contractually barred 72 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:55.480 from speaking out about her mistreatment. As a result, she suffered in silence 73 00:05:55.519 --> 00:06:00.519 as Bravo and Evolution watched viewership explode and the rest of the cast enjoyed unseen 74 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:06.680 levels of public recognition and professional opportunity. Meanwhile, Levice, who was humilian, 75 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:14.199 who was humiliated and villainized for public consumption, remains a shell of her 76 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:20.800 former self, with her career prospects stunted and her reputation in tatters. Yikes, 77 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:25.199 well, now I feel bad for my fuck around and find out comment. 78 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:30.399 I mean, well, when you put it into the context of Rachel 79 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:35.079 being a young woman, right, who falls under the spell if you will, 80 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:40.360 of an older, attractive man who's the number one guy in the group. 81 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:45.120 And she I think was an opportunist from the very beginning, like she 82 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:47.600 was a fan, she met James and that's how she got into the group. 83 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:53.680 But you can see how she was ripe for picking totally yea and to 84 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:57.680 take advantage of And you can also see how Tom is the kind of personality 85 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.160 that would absolutely take advantage of that situation, right. I just wonder what 86 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:06.519 the extent of like the distribution and the dissemination, yeah, that Arianna did, 87 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:11.079 because I mean if she just sent it to herself and then told people 88 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.399 about it, I mean, I don't know if that really counts as like 89 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.959 distributing. It'd be one thing if she like posted that shit on ig right 90 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:23.120 or something, or like post it on like the Underweds everywhere. Oh my 91 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:28.399 god, that'd be horrible. That would be so terrible for Rachel's sake and 92 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.279 everything. But if she just sent it to herself and then nobody else, 93 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:34.480 I mean, but I mean, even if she showed her real tight homegirls, 94 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:39.879 can you imagine if you got if you got cheated on and you found 95 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:45.199 out by going through your husband's phone or your wife's phone, you send that 96 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:46.879 to yourself and then you show your best friend, like, look what I 97 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:50.720 just found? Right? Is that really distributing revenge porn? Right? That 98 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:55.720 doesn't feel like it? But I don't think the law cares about our feelings. 99 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.519 No, in regard to that. And to that end, there is 100 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:03.399 an attorney who makes a comment about this lawsuit, and I think it's Mark 101 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.439 Geragos. He's kind of a celebrity attorney who's been involved in a lot of 102 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:13.120 different cases and trials, and he says, this lawsuit is squarely about illegal 103 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:18.920 behavior and those who traffic in it and enable it. Rachel has apologized for 104 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:22.759 her part in an affair that's not a crime. Tom and Ariana are alleged 105 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:28.439 here to have engaged in actual criminal acts. They then doubled down and use 106 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:35.200 those actions to shame, bully, belittle, and intentionally try to destroy Rachel's 107 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.360 mental health. The law makes it clear that recording someone without their consent and 108 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:46.519 distributing that illegal recording is punishable by law. However, doing so while knowingly 109 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:52.279 enticing them to engage in those sexual acts deserves the harshness of penalties allowable under 110 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:58.480 law. So I get it, yeah, and I understand it. But 111 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:05.360 is that really what happened here? Because Tom Sandoval didn't show Ariana the video, 112 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:11.120 and we can't assume that he showed anybody else the video. He may 113 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.440 have he's a gummy guy, he's a shit, but we don't have that 114 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:18.960 information or evidence at this time. So he took the video. Is that 115 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.120 a crime? I think so, because without her consent that would be criminal, 116 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.080 right, and I think in California, like you have to have permission 117 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:33.679 from both parties in order to record something, So he shouldn't have done that, 118 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.360 And maybe that's a crime, But we don't actually know if he disseminated 119 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:43.519 it. If anybody actually disseminated it, it would probably have been Ariana. 120 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.960 Yeah, but has showed her friends. But did she send it to her 121 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:50.720 friends or did she show it to them on her phone? And if she 122 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:54.559 sent it to her friends, then those friends could have sent it to anybody 123 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.440 else, but it's fruit from the poisonous street. It's well, that's a 124 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.960 legal term and it doesn't apply. But if it comes from her though, 125 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.720 and ultimately gets to one hundred people, she's responsible criminally, right, Yeah, 126 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:09.159 then she's as well, then she's totally fucked and then they're gonna have 127 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:15.679 to settle on something. So but like the whole like intentionally destroying her mental 128 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:20.200 health, I mean I don't know, like what extent did they intentionally destroy 129 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:22.320 her mental health? Like that's the same kind of argument that Sandoval is doing, 130 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:26.320 Like everybody destroyed my mental health to the point where like I wanted to 131 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:28.399 unlive myself. It's like, well, I mean you brought it on yourself, 132 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.639 you kind of these are the actions, Like this is the consequences to 133 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.559 your actions. So I don't know about that part. But like the distribute 134 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:41.919 distribution of her tapes that she didn't consent to, yikes. Yes, And 135 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:48.320 if it really did stunt her ability to have professional opportunities, she's gonna have 136 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:50.919 to prove that up. She's gonna have to show damages. But like if 137 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:56.080 she can show that, well, she obviously isn't on vandr Pump rules right, 138 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:58.639 that was a great opportunity. But from what I understand, that was 139 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:01.919 her, Like they wanted her to come back, and I think Lisa Vanderpump 140 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:05.480 actually gave a statement and like, we offered her a lot of money to 141 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.080 come back, and she also made a good deal of money while she was 142 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.559 here, oh, profiting off of everything. But again, I say, 143 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:20.120 I have much more compassion for Rachel Raquel because she's a younger person. She's 144 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.039 not a kid. I'm a child. She should know better, Like what 145 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.360 she did was wrong, and she acknowledges that. But I feel for her 146 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:30.480 being in kind of a fucked up, holl weird situation in this weird group 147 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.919 of clout chasers, trying to find your place and falling under the spell of 148 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:39.919 like this magnetic guy, yeah, who's totally a manipulative, horrible narcissist, 149 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.639 who totally could have told her anything like, oh yeah, me and Arian 150 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:48.240 are on the fritz. We have a horrible relationship. It's just you, 151 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:52.159 baby, I want you. And then fucking videotaping her. Oh that's so 152 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:56.559 terrible. That's so fucking bad. It's really bad. I think there's like 153 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.200 a Netflix documentary about revenge porn and how this is becoming like more and more 154 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:05.200 of a thing where like horrible, awful men are recording women without their consent 155 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.279 and then just posting it on fucking porn hubbed shit. That's so terrible. 156 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:13.879 We have to make examples out of each and every one of them. And 157 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:18.279 I think the laws are getting stronger and stronger about this and guys really are 158 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.240 fucking around and finding out. Wow. Well, we definitely will continue to 159 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:26.639 watch it. What I what I kind of felt when I was reading from 160 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:31.080 her actual lawsuit. It feels to me like maybe she's focusing right now on 161 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:37.320 Tom and Ariana around the revenge porn and their part in what happened to her, 162 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:39.200 But like it also feels like at some point she's going to bring in 163 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:45.159 Bravo and Evolution the production company, because she's saying that they fomented or they 164 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:48.159 made all of this worse. They also told her she couldn't actually speak out 165 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:52.639 and say anything, so she was suffering in silence. It feels like like 166 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.000 I'm actually surprised that Bravo and Evolution were not included in this lawsuit. Why 167 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:03.639 only Tom and Ariana Does she have the money to sue huge corporate entities like 168 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.720 Bravo and whatever. The thing. I think that she has a family, 169 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:11.519 of means, I do think she has a family that can back her up. 170 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:13.759 And I also think there's a lot of lawyers who would love to take 171 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.720 a lawsuit like this. Really, Oh my god, so be watching. 172 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.000 It's very interesting personally, and then I'll wrap this up. I mean just 173 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:24.200 but I'm like, this is so interesting to me. But personally I would 174 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:26.840 sue the fuck out of Tom. But after what I did to Arianna, 175 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.440 I would not sue her. I mean, even though that's fucked up. 176 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.000 I'm really pissed you showed your friends or you sent it to Shena. I'm 177 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.120 not gonna go after you because I shouldn't have done what I did, right, 178 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.039 unless Ariana did actually distribute it to other people who like, actually send 179 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:46.000 it to people, Because if she did that, then Ariana sucks and that's 180 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.960 pretty shitty. Like regardless, if this is your man's mistress, like, 181 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:56.480 you don't fucking just send out your nudies or these bad tapes and these sexy 182 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:58.440 tapes and stuff to everybody just because you're bitter. Well, yeah, you 183 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:03.399 don't do that, but you also don't fuck your best friend's guy while her 184 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.120 grandmother's dying or is passing and she's losing her dog and all of the things 185 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.360 that Raquel did, Like, I would feel so bad for everything that I 186 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:13.879 did that I would leave Ariana out of it. But like, we don't 187 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.639 know the scope of what Ariana did, if she did anything at all. 188 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.720 I'm sure they can get their phone records and they can find out if she 189 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:24.279 sent something to somebody and who that was, and maybe they will. I 190 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.679 think discovery would be really interesting. I think depositions would be really interesting. 191 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:33.000 So we're going to be following this because well it's interesting. I'm excited. 192 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.240 And the last thing I wanted to talk about before we get into the episode 193 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:41.279 is this Tom versus Ariana and the house situation. Apparently, Arianna fould a 194 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:46.159 lawsuit she wants to i think, compel the sale of the house, and 195 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.879 Tom Sandoval is fighting Arianna as she tries to force the sale of their home, 196 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:56.000 claiming he loaned her a big chunk of change that he wants back before 197 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:01.840 selling the crib they shared. According to new Gould docs obtained by TMZ, 198 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:05.639 Tom alleges he loaned Ariana ninety thousand dollars and that she hasn't paid him back. 199 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:11.879 Yet more importantly, Tom wants Ariana to fork over the dough before a 200 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:16.799 judge potentially orders them to sell the house and split the proceeds. In his 201 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:22.000 response to Ariana's lawsuit, he also says he has a lien on the house 202 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.960 that's directly tied to this alleged loan to her. Interesting, and he says 203 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.519 no sale can go down until this is dealt with. As we first told 204 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.799 you, Ariana is suing Tom over the Los Angeles house that they own. 205 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.600 They lived there as a couple. Blah blah blah. Tom's so far resisted 206 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:45.440 and now it's looking like he's digging in his heels and claiming that she needs 207 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:48.879 to settle up with him over this loan before selling the house. So that's 208 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.159 interesting. So there's a lean on the house, So what is it like 209 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.399 she owes the money on the house for the lean that you took out, 210 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.600 and I don't know, she also owes all of these bill payments and shit 211 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:04.559 like, Well, she didn't put a lien on the house. And so 212 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.120 usually a lien is put on your house when you owe money and your house 213 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.840 is up as collateral for that money. Yeah, and you're defaulting on the 214 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:15.120 loan or you're not paying it, and so like for example, with taxes, 215 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.679 if you don't pay your taxes to the irs, they can put a 216 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:22.080 lien on your home. So that's interesting that there would be alean on this 217 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:29.360 house that he's saying is connected to ninety thousand dollars he lent Ariana. And 218 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.120 I'm wondering if he's talking about the mortgage payments she hasn't been making for the 219 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:40.399 last eight eight months, which would have been probably about ten thousand dollars a 220 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:45.360 month for her on a two million dollar house. You're probably paying twenty thousand. 221 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.279 I don't know how much bank, but maybe that's what he's talking about. 222 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.240 But that's not a loan. That's just her saying you didn't give me 223 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.960 the receipts and so I'm not going to pay you and overbay you because you've 224 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:59.080 been lying to me. That's what I was confused of. I'm like, 225 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:03.879 this is this an addition ninety dollars in like on top of everything that you 226 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:07.799 say she already owes her. If it's just all of the bill payments that 227 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:11.359 she hasn't paid allegedly right. But then Arianna said a couple episodes ago that 228 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:17.079 the mortgage payments that she was being told to pay to Tom were an overpayment. 229 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:18.799 So she's like, I'm not paying this shit until you tell me by 230 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.920 five dollars, like how much of an overpayment? Like you know you owe 231 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.680 the mortgage every month though, right, Like you know approximately how much it 232 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.920 is because you know how much the house is and how much you refined it 233 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:34.240 for because you did the refinance with him. So I just think she just 234 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:37.799 stopped paying because she wanted to be petty. And I don't hate her for 235 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:41.440 that. I mean I don't either. She's gonna have to settle up. 236 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.559 Yeah, But I could also see Tom saying like, oh, yeah, 237 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.200 i'll pay x amount and you pay this amount, But then he's just pocketing 238 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:52.400 like the extra that she's paying, he's over. Like I don't know. 239 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:56.480 Their finances seem so fucking messy, like way more messy than like the Browns. 240 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.319 I mean, I know they don't got bankruptcies and stuff, but that 241 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:03.799 lean on that house is interesting. All of the shit that they've gone in 242 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.680 on, Like he's apparently done all these repairs on the house, so he's 243 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:08.799 got all this money tied to it, and then she owns all the fucking 244 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.960 furniture and stuff in the house, right, which was interesting. Oh my 245 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:15.880 god, beautiful furniture. I wonder how much that is worse? I know, 246 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:19.880 I want to tally of everything, thousands, probably it's got to be 247 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:25.000 right, Oh my god. Yeah, So this would be interesting to follow 248 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:29.279 what happens with those two so many if we ever get to it. I 249 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:33.039 mean, that's it. The most interesting thing about this season that they should 250 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:38.519 absolutely be covering is what are they doing legally? What's happening with the division 251 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:41.079 of the assets? Like how does that work? Like that's what we want 252 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:45.240 to see, but that's not what we're getting. Instead, we're having photoshoots 253 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:49.839 with Lisa vander Pump with wolves and Graham Cracker the Dog And I'm like, 254 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:55.039 I don't care though, And Brock and Shea in this episode, I do 255 00:18:55.319 --> 00:19:00.480 care about that because I hate him more and more as the weeks go by. 256 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.680 This brock Fellow, yeah, but I'm just like, Sheena is inseufferable 257 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.599 too. I don't want to talk about them or fucking sand of All crying 258 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:12.000 in his green blazer for us to care about him. Like I don't care 259 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:15.319 that you're sad. Yeah, like you're sad for a reason. You did 260 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:18.960 this to yourself and cry more. And I feel like he's just putting eye 261 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.319 drops in his eyes to make himself cry. God allah, Love is Blind? 262 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.880 What that dude from Love is Blind? Did he? Oh? Not 263 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:29.440 this season? But it was the last season of Love and Blind. Yeah, 264 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:34.000 there was that guy who was actually putting vizine drops in his eyes during 265 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:40.359 his talking head and not thinking that production was going to show it, but 266 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:44.920 they did stop. So maybe Tom is doing something like that. I wouldn't 267 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:49.400 be surprised. It really feels like production is participating though with this redemption arc, 268 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:56.400 like they really want us to feel bad. Why I don't understand, 269 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.240 Like, after this blow up of season ten that was so insane, and 270 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:04.279 you know all of your viewers hated Tom Sandoval and still do, why are 271 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:10.440 you trying to force this redemption arc literally the next season when nobody fucking likes 272 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:15.720 him. I think it's because Scandival was like the biggest thing to happen to 273 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:19.920 the franchise in many years, and so they want Tom to stay centered at 274 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:23.960 this time in this season. I think it's also because maybe I wonder if 275 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:26.920 they have a sense that Ariana's not going to be around forever, because like 276 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.599 you'd have to watch the previous seasons to understand that, like she really wasn't 277 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:36.519 doing much. She was really just an appendage of Tom Sandival. It was 278 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:41.039 Tom and Ariana, but like she didn't really do anything or contribute much in 279 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:47.119 my opinion, to the show. So maybe they understand that she's probably cycling 280 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:49.240 out of the franchise, but Tom is the one that's going to stay. 281 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:52.200 Yeah, so Tom might be the one that they think they have to redeem. 282 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.279 I'm not saying it's right or that I agree, but maybe that's part 283 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:00.119 of the motivation behind it. I don't get it. That's stupid, and 284 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.480 I don't I don't want it. No, I don't want it at all. 285 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:07.279 But I don't I don't know what's happening. And then all of the 286 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:10.680 other cast members are just like, Okay, I guess, I know. 287 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:12.720 I don't know what else to do. Let's just go to Tahoe, I 288 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:17.880 guess, and have this conversation with Tom and James where James is like, 289 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:19.599 I don't want to, but I have to because it's my job, right, 290 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:25.400 I have to like you, So okay, we'll try and be friends 291 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.079 again. Yeah, and Lala trying to suck Sandoval's dick. We'll get to 292 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:30.960 it, yes, we will. Well, why don't we start with the 293 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:37.440 episode? All right? Yapped a lot about well, this episode was kind 294 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:41.319 of light on the content. There was a lot of just like it felt 295 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:44.839 very fillery to me, like it was not they're getting to the meat of 296 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:48.000 the episode or meat of the trip really next episode. It looks like all 297 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:52.839 of the drama at Tahoe is going to happen next week. Boring, but 298 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.720 everybody is getting ready to go to Tahoe this episode at the beginning, besides 299 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.640 Katie and Arianna. Obviously, He's like, I don't care. I'm not 300 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:06.839 missing out. I'm totally fine to I'm certainly not gonna be in a home 301 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:11.559 with Tom and Tom those losers, thank you. And Ariana is like, 302 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.119 I'm not going, of course, not because Sandoval is gonna be there, 303 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:18.000 but she's like totally side eyeing all of the girls that are going, like 304 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:22.640 Laala and Sheena, because she's like, what about the loyalty to me? 305 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:26.200 Though? Why do you like Tom Sandival? All of a sudden, which 306 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:29.559 seems like in the preview, Sena is gonna call Ariana and be like, 307 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.960 yeah, I really feel for Tom now and I think we should be nice 308 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:37.319 to him. And Ariana is gonna be pissed. She is gonna be pissed. 309 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:41.839 But like the elephant in the room is the reality that this is everybody's 310 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:45.319 job. This is how Sina makes money. This is one of the avenues 311 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.319 into all of her other money, Like she needs to show up, Like 312 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:53.079 and if Sheena doesn't film, Shina doesn't get paid. And so you're putting 313 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.799 your friends who actually work with you. There are co workers as well, 314 00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:00.680 in like kind of a terrible position by asking them to pick sides. Maybe 315 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.480 you think, well, if they don't go, we can film shit here 316 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.319 in Los Angeles. But that's allboring. What do you have going on? 317 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.200 I know it's your shop that doesn't open, that somebody's shit on your patio. 318 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.119 What do you got going on? Like? I want to hear about 319 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:17.559 your boyfriend? Yeah, I want to hear about all of the brand deals 320 00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:18.960 that are coming in that we all know that you got, Like why aren't 321 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:22.440 you talking about that? More? Right? I would like to know about 322 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:25.519 that? And also Katie's dating, Like when are we going to get to 323 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:30.559 that? I know? And Katie's apparently dating a girl in like a relationship 324 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:37.680 with a man. Lib Yeah, I do love alsbian fantasy, and I 325 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:40.799 was not paying that for Katie. But I'm like, hey, I'm all 326 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:44.319 about that. Yes, me too. Now we just need the gay fantasy 327 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:48.640 to come true for Schwartz. Okay, girl, I pressed sad, little 328 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.759 Schwartz. Listen, your daughter was watching this with me last night, and 329 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:55.880 she has not been watching the show like she you know, sees it every 330 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:57.839 once in a while when she comes out from playing video games in her cave 331 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:03.880 and she's like this show again and walks away. But then last night she 332 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:08.960 watched it with me and she saw the interact like she saw Schwartz look at 333 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:12.119 Sandoval on the plane to Tahoe, and she immediately said, I have not 334 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:15.920 told her any of this. She's like, oh, they're gay. They're 335 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.799 fucking really And I'm like, did you get the vibe that I got? 336 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:22.119 Like I hadn't even told her my gay conspiracy because I knew she wouldn't care, 337 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:26.079 And she's like, no, they're totally fucking Do you guys think so? 338 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.039 Like, are any of you guys out there thinking that maybe they that's 339 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:33.599 the reason, Oh yeah, Schwartz is so ride or die for Tom is 340 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.759 because they've got some sort of connection that goes beyond friendship. Schwartz is in 341 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:42.680 love with Tom. I'm calling it dude, like broke Back Mountain style. 342 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:47.160 They do it in secret. It's all hot and sweaty. Oh my god, 343 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:51.160 I'm telling you woe your daughter had that same vibe. Well, if 344 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:55.759 that's true, I would just wish that they could tell the truth or that 345 00:24:55.839 --> 00:25:02.119 we could know about it, because talk about something that that would outshine scandabal. 346 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.599 If that came out, that'd be fantastic. I know, but I 347 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:07.880 don't know about all that. It's in my dreams, it is in your 348 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:14.160 dreams. I saw a clip of Sheena and Lala in Tahoe. I think 349 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:15.960 this is going to be on next week's episode, unless it was this week's 350 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:21.359 and I didn't realize it. But where Sena is actually talking about her conflict 351 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:27.079 over Tom, because she says during the pandemic she was really low on funds. 352 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:33.119 She wasn't making any money. They had discontinued her podcast, which obviously 353 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.079 she went on to start on her own, but like she was really worried 354 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:41.200 about money, and Tom sent her several thousand dollars without being asked, just 355 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.680 sent her several thousand dollars via PayPal, just to help her out because she 356 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.640 had just had summer moon. She had a lot going on in her life. 357 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:55.039 And so she's conflicted because she knew Tom before she knew Ariana. Tom 358 00:25:55.039 --> 00:26:00.079 and her had a standalone friendship outside of Ariana. Tom has done some demonstrably 359 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:07.160 cool things to help Shina. Wow, So she's really torn up about having 360 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.799 to ice him out and not be friends. I mean, I guess that 361 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:17.960 makes sense, I guess, but it's hard for me to like see some 362 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:22.640 of the good and Tom Sandbal because I just think he's like super fucking manipulative. 363 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.920 I just think he he toys around with people and he just wants people 364 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.279 for the attention and for like the look of it all, because he's such 365 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.240 an extrovert. He's like, yeah, look at me, I've got all 366 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.119 these friends. It's like why he had all those randos for his birthday party, 367 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:41.519 Like it was just for appearances rather than just being a cool dude turning 368 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.279 forty one or whatever however old he is and just drinking a beer on the 369 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:51.480 couch. I feel like he's probably in the business of paying for his friendships 370 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:57.079 because with James, when James got engaged to Rachel Raquel, he gave James 371 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:02.079 i think twenty five thousand dollar toward his proposal, Like he has so much 372 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.160 fun with it, but like he has he seems to have a very generous 373 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:10.400 spirit, but it could be manipulative just to keep people around him and loyal 374 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:14.119 to him. Yeah, I know people like this am my real life. 375 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:19.720 I know people who think that that's what friendship means by just providing money and 376 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:23.559 they're like, yeah, you should think I'm a good person because I provide 377 00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:26.119 so much for you, and this is how they are in their relationships too, 378 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.200 And I'm just like, it doesn't make a whole friendship. It doesn't 379 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:34.640 make a whole relationship if you're just giving people money because you think that that's 380 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.519 like the humanitarian thing to do, or like, yeah, the only way 381 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.400 people will stay around is if they can use you. Like that sets up 382 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.200 very bad relationships, yes, but I just yeah, I think this is 383 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.480 the conflict we're going to see begin to develop over the next few episodes, 384 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.279 is just Sheina being really conflicted and also perhaps Lalla certainly has it concerned Schwartz, 385 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.079 but also maybe Sandoval, although I think she fights with Sandoval in the 386 00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.279 next episode about something. But anyway, I want to see that onward, 387 00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.240 and let's keep going anyway. Yeah, everybody's, you know, getting ready 388 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.920 to go to Tahoe. Schwartz and Sandoval are going shopping, but Schwartz is 389 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.519 poor and can't come for anything, which is sad. But they start talking 390 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.640 about Rachel because Schwartz gets some notifications on his phone and he's like, oh, 391 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.200 Raquel changed her name to Rachel, and Sandoval's like, yeah, I 392 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.920 knew that already. And then he gets another notification and it's Rachel is out 393 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.200 of the mental health facility, and Sandoval's like, yeah, I knew that 394 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:32.119 already because I tried texting her and she ghosted me. And that I think 395 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.920 that hurts Sandoval's feelings. Oh yeah, I mean that's a narcissistic injury and 396 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.640 he's having a hard time getting over it. Yeah. I also think he 397 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:45.759 really wants Rachel to come back because it would be so flipping good for the 398 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.720 show. What if she does, what if it's been this whole thing, 399 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.119 like she doesn't show up or anything. But then she does like at the 400 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:56.039 very last episode and then comes back. I think she's coming back next season. 401 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.279 Oh yeah, and that's gonna get those all the way back up. 402 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.160 I just see what happens. I think Ariana might be gone by then. 403 00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.519 I think if Rachel comes back, Ariana goes. I mean, yeah, 404 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:08.920 I would. I don't think we need Ariana. I'm sorry, I'm just 405 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.880 saying it. I don't think we need Ariana. It doesn't mean I'm not 406 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.519 team Mariana regard to what happened, but I just don't think she adds a 407 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.720 whole lot to the cast. Well, and I'm like, does she even 408 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.599 want to be involved. It doesn't seem like she wants to be It doesn't 409 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:23.559 seem like she genuinely likes anybody except for Katie. And yeah, I don't 410 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:26.279 think she wants to be there except for the paycheck. So you know, 411 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.519 we don't need you. Yeah bye. Although it was funny when her and 412 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.680 Katie were talking about their restaurant somebody shitting on their perch. Yeah, like 413 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.279 all of the regulations that they have to go through in the permits and the 414 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.680 things that they have to do. That's California for you. Know, it's 415 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.720 hard to be in business in California, so they're struggling. And I don't 416 00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.960 think something about her is open to this day. I mean, is it 417 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.039 ever going to open? Is it a prop for the show? I mean 418 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.599 it feels like it a little bit. I feel like it's going to be 419 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.119 like Shorts and Sandy's taken forever to open, and then it's just going to 420 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:03.240 be a flop. Yeah. And then oh, and Sheena and Brock go 421 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:08.519 shopping for bikinis and they fight at the bikini store because Brock's super pissed that 422 00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:14.359 Sheena is still nervous about leaving their baby with anybody. Like they just found 423 00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.440 a nanny, and then the nanny doesn't pan out because she has to go 424 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.240 nanny for another family that just had a baby, and then nanny had a 425 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.119 baby herself, and it's this big old thing. And Brock doesn't want Sheena's 426 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:29.240 mom to be around all the time. So what does he want Sheena to 427 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.960 do? Right? Like, what is she supposed to pull out of her 428 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.039 ass to make him happy in this situation? Right? Like, she's dealing 429 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:40.960 with anxiety for which she has no compassion whatsoever. At least she has her 430 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.319 mom and her sister, they're right there. They help with the baby, 431 00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.839 but Brock seems to really resent that, and he doesn't want his mother in 432 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:49.680 law to be around all the time. But like, summer Moon is young, 433 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:55.039 so you don't want them around. But at the same time, you 434 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:56.000 want to be gone all the time. You want to have date nights, 435 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:57.799 you want to go to Tahoe, you want to be able to have some 436 00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:03.559 freedom in your relationship. So why don't you workshop that problem and why don't 437 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.480 you find out a solution instead of putting all that emotional labor onto Sina, 438 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.559 I know, and then yelling at her in public. In public, I'm 439 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:12.759 like, why are you bringing this up? And why are you talking about 440 00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:17.359 her mommy issues? And shit, I'm like, dude, this guy is 441 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:21.519 a dick. Like he's just really harsh. I mean, he apologizes for 442 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:23.960 it later when they're in Tahoe, but that's like several days after the fact, 443 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:26.680 and I'm just like, this guy sucks. I feel like they're trying 444 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:32.240 to create and or force a storyline. I feel like he is, for 445 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.599 sure, because he wants to play more of a role in terms of the 446 00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.319 cast, especially now that things are shifting around because he's nothing. And I 447 00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.640 think this is like the way that he thinks he's gonna do it. But 448 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:47.079 you're coming off it's giving, weirdo, it's giving. What are you talking 449 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.720 about? Your wife has legitimate anxiety in OCD. She's like getting treated for 450 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.440 this, Like what are we doing here yelling at her and putting her down 451 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.359 for doing her very best. She's the fucking bread winner, bra for real 452 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:01.319 though. She's the one who bankrolled your dumb jym app which didn't go anywhere. 453 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.839 She's the one who's taking care of your entire life. And we're sitting 454 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:07.759 in this shop and you're yelling at her. Okay, I know, okay, 455 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.559 And I hate him, yeah, and I can't stand him. And 456 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.960 we don't need him, No, we don't. We do not need him. 457 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:15.400 We don't need she know though, either, because she keeps talking about 458 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.279 how she doesn't want to leave her baby, but then she's literally without her 459 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.279 baby all the time, right going to bars, going to tom. We 460 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.319 do need she know though, because she's an intermediary between certain of the cast 461 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.200 members, But like, we don't need Brock. Yeah whatsoever? He adds 462 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:35.519 nothing, And you know what really bothered me to was like how he talked 463 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:37.279 to Tom Sandoval. Now, yeah, Tom Sandoval's piece of fucking shit. 464 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.920 Yeah, but like when he's wearing his fucking speed out Brock with his long 465 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.759 silk robe, like because he's not a narcissister anything. No, and Tom 466 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.920 comes down and he immediately starts in on Tom. I mean, if I'm 467 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.599 Tom and I've been on this franchise for I don't know twelve years, and 468 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.119 I'm the number one guy in the group, which Tom, you know, 469 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:59.160 used to be. But like he's got more currency in this group than Brock 470 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.960 could ever have, like to presume for you to lecture me, I know, 471 00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.480 some shit like who are you anyway? Like the second that they get 472 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.880 to Tale, hoh, I'm like give it a breath, like you're not 473 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:13.279 my friend. Yeah, you weren't there for me, Like you're nobody to 474 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.240 me. And again, I'm not taking up for Tom Sandival. I'm just 475 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:16.559 like, Brock, who do you think you are? I know you're literally 476 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:22.559 an NPC. You're the background character on the showy fuck off my TV dude. 477 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.799 Oh he suck. I know. It would have been way better if 478 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.799 James just like went in on Sandal the second that they got there, but 479 00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.480 he didn't. Well, James did it the right way. James said, 480 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:35.200 hey, how are you doing. He's not coming in too strong, He's 481 00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.039 like giving him a wide berth. They're gonna get to that conversation when it 482 00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:44.119 happens organically. But like fucking Brock and Espiedo just being the moral voice of 483 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.960 the group, I'm like, I need you to fucking get off my TV. 484 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.160 I know. I'm like, oh, I don't like there's some about 485 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.200 him. I do not like, I'm telling you cheater vibes. Dude, 486 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:57.119 he just doesn't give me good vibes at all. He just seems like a 487 00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.839 dick. He seems like he treats Sheena pretty bad. I don't know, 488 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:05.200 but she is also annoying and whatever. Yeah, But once they're all in 489 00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:09.519 Tahoe and after Brock confronts Sandoval in the kitchen for some reason, everybody kind 490 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:14.239 of gets settled. And then Schwartz is like, yeah, I'm really glad 491 00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.639 I brought the gang back together here, and you know, I'm trying to 492 00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:20.639 get the family back and it's all because of me, right, I'm like, 493 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.760 oh god, right, this guy, Yeah, this fucking guy. 494 00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:29.400 I can't stand him taking credit it's not really about peace in the group. 495 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.760 It's about I'm the one who did it. Yeah, so I get credit 496 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:36.000 for that. That's totally it. And it's kind of cringey. Oh. 497 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.920 And then in the car ride, before they even get to the house that 498 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:44.159 he rented for everybody, he's talking with Sandoval, and Sandoval starts crying right 499 00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:47.079 and Sart's like, are you okay, buddy? But can we talk about 500 00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:51.719 what he's crying about? He's hying because when they were all at the airport 501 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:53.559 and he went into the airport bar, like she said, hey, we're 502 00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:58.239 over here, like in other words, you can sit by us, and 503 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.679 that's what he's crying about. Like that gesture was so meaningful to Like, 504 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.599 it was so I don't know, you know, like meaningful to me. 505 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.920 And he's got this fucked up glycer and tear coming down the side of his 506 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:14.159 face and I'm like, I don't care. I'm like, what is this? 507 00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.440 I don't care? And then they cut to him in his talking head 508 00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:22.840 in that fucked up green blazer with gold buttons, and he's crying more just 509 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.079 about how he's been in a dark plaze. I literally checked out. I'm 510 00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:29.679 like, I need to hear your voice warpling. This is so fucking fake. 511 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.679 I am an empathic person. I mean women, we are too. 512 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.480 We're intuitive, Like I can see you and I know this is a manipulation 513 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:39.920 and you don't mean this shit. No, because as you mentioned last week, 514 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:43.679 like on the weekends, though, you're out with the most extras, 515 00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.320 you're calling out Raquel and Tom Schwartz and you're having a great old time, 516 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:50.639 but you're crying in the car. Okay, yeah, like I sure, 517 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:52.440 sure, jam, we buy it. And even in his talking head in 518 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.599 that green blazer after he's done crying and he's talking about everybody, he's getting 519 00:35:57.639 --> 00:35:59.920 settled at the at the house and he's like, well, it's nice, 520 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.599 but you know, most people are being cordial to me, but everybody's not 521 00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:07.480 taking accountability for what they did to me, right and how they treated me, 522 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.119 and the podcasts and the merch and profiting off of my misery. And 523 00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.599 I'm like, okay, I get it. But at the same time, 524 00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:15.960 dude, you fuck around and you find out like you did the worst thing 525 00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:22.400 on this cast, and you also fucking filmed this mistress that you were banging 526 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.159 without her consent, So that's another fucked up thing that you did, and 527 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:30.440 I'm sure nobody knows about that. Nobody's talking about it. I think at 528 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.400 this time people do know about it. At this time, what is it 529 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:39.559 July or August? I think that people know about the tape and that this 530 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:45.960 happened. Why we're not calling this despicable behavior out in the actual friend group 531 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:50.119 is beyond me. You'd think Bala or any of these girls would say something 532 00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.400 about that, even though they hate Raquel, that's fine. At least you 533 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.920 would say something like, what the fuck are you doing? Tom? Yeah, 534 00:36:54.920 --> 00:37:00.679 for real, that's against the law, and it's I don't know why 535 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.199 nobody maybe because of the legal ramifications of having that conversation on camera. Maybe 536 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.599 Bravo or Evolution doesn't want them to. But if that were me, he's 537 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:12.559 somebody in my friend group, I would be like calling his ass out. 538 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:16.400 Oh me too, I'd be like, fuck this dude. But instead Tom 539 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:22.079 gives this whole narrative, like this air that he's working on himself. When 540 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.679 they're out on the patio and everybody gets settled in their's swimsuits, He's like, 541 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.760 oh yeah, I'm sober. No, And I'm like, you know, 542 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.440 trying to really like word, go myself and be a better person. 543 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.559 Lalla's fucking ass is like, yeah, I think it's admirable that he's working 544 00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.360 on himself. I'm like, really it, because that's her entire identity is 545 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:43.039 sobriety. So I feel like Tom is doing this intentionally to try and connect 546 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.639 with Lala because he knows that's really important to her and that if he gives 547 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.199 up liquor, that's going to be meaningful to her. So I just feel 548 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:55.400 like it's another way to like manipulate Lalla and the group. And I want 549 00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.559 to say again, like, I think Tom Sandoval has the point here, 550 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.000 Like, Shena, you were absolutely gross. The lengths you went to to 551 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.960 profit off of everything that happened which did not happen to you. It didn't 552 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:12.920 happen to you, and the way that you made it about you is problematic. 553 00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.079 And Lala, you did the same thing on your own podcast and in 554 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:21.920 your own way. Everybody profited about this situation and over what happened to Tom, 555 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:23.840 Like, I think there's a conversation that they could happen, that they 556 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:28.320 could have, and I think he tried to have it with Sheena two episodes 557 00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.280 ago when he's wanted to say, I would have never done that to you, 558 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:35.239 Like if something terrible had happened to you, or if you tripped and 559 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.599 did something terrible on the world stage, I would not be out here on 560 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:42.320 podcasts calling you out for it and trying to interview all of these people so 561 00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.840 I can make money off of your name. Like there's something to that that 562 00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:51.760 I think is valid that we could talk about. But because Tom hasn't taken 563 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:57.559 organic, authentic responsibility for the shit that is and you can tell he doesn't 564 00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.159 feel it internally. Oh, he doesn't feel sorry. Every single interview he 565 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.920 does, every podcast he's on, it's always I'm sorry, But he doesn't 566 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:09.639 actually take responsibility for anything that he's done. Because of that, we don't 567 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:15.159 want to hear about anything that anybody else did that may have hurt your feelings. 568 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:19.559 Yeah, because you aren't coming correct in this situation, right, And 569 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.000 I don't buy that you're working on yourself just because you stopped fucking drinking, 570 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.280 Like, Okay, congrats that you stop drinking. That's great, but that 571 00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:30.960 doesn't mean that you're fucking healed and that you're this great person and you're humble. 572 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.760 Although he is taking Lisa vander Pump's advice during this trip, and he's 573 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.079 being very nice and cordial and saying, thank you guys for being nice to 574 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:42.039 me. And I set up a guided meditation for us all to do so 575 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.440 we can heal together. I'm like, oh, this is crazy. Yeah. 576 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.239 Yeah. And then even when he talks with James later, like he's 577 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.880 trying to be kind of nice, kind of low key whatever, because that's 578 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.199 what Lisa vanderpump told him to do. Be humble. That way you can 579 00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:00.199 get on everybody's good side, right, But it's not some he truly feels 580 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.519 about himself or about the group. He's just trying to keep his job. 581 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:07.800 He's just trying to be able to be a part of the social circle, 582 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:12.119 which is the premise for this show, which is his job. Yes, 583 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.280 that's what he's doing, and you can see it, and James can see 584 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.880 it, and you could see James knowing it in the midst of that conversation. 585 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.400 Oh for sure. I love James Loki. I know you hate him, 586 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:22.920 I know you think he's a piece of shit, but I'm like, 587 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:29.840 I suspect him to be a domestic abuser, and that's just a no go 588 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.400 for me. There's not. I don't know if there's enough evidence. There's 589 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:37.679 just girls who have said so. But there's not even one man on this 590 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.559 cast that I like, there's not one man. No, Yeah, they're 591 00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.039 all pretty terrible. They all are pretty terrible. And then while everybody's on 592 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.400 the patio talking about Graham Cracker changing his name to hippie. I don't care, 593 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.320 No nobody cares, boring, we get a scene with Arianna talking to 594 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:58.719 her interior designer or furniture person I don't know, at their house, Tom 595 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.559 and Ariana's house, and this is where she's talking about how you know, 596 00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:05.480 Tom wants to buy her out of the house. She's warming up to the 597 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:09.360 idea, but only he only gets the walls. I want to be reimbursed 598 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:14.280 for literally all the furniture and everything that's in this house, because basically she 599 00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.840 paid for everything. So she's like walking around talking bounders, chairs and the 600 00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.320 couches and stuff, and I'm like, what do you mean reimbursed? Like 601 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:22.880 are you gonna let him keep it? And she just wants the money. 602 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.519 Probably I would just take all the fucking furniture, but I mean she might 603 00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.000 move into an apartment. She might. That's to New York and she might 604 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:31.320 not be able to take the furniture. Maybe she doesn't want it because she 605 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.440 shared it with him. That's true. She should get the monetary value of 606 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.559 it depreciated for time and use. But like she should get some money for 607 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:43.920 that. Oh for sure. All of those chairs were super like name brand 608 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.400 and stuff, and I mean they look horribly uncomfortable and terrible, but that's 609 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:52.519 great. And then like the fucking artwork and the weird chandeliers that she has 610 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:55.480 that we're all designed that are super expensive. I'm like, yes, Queen, 611 00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.639 get all of that money. I think that's great. I can pay 612 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.199 it all up. Yeah, I'm just all part of the negotiation once they 613 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:07.239 go to court and try to figure everything out. And that's what they're doing 614 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.400 right now. Yeah, which I'm excited to see how that goes. I'm 615 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:14.199 like, I wish we could have more of those conversations, like we were 616 00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.039 just saying, like, let's get into the legal stuff, let's get into 617 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:20.199 the breakdown of the house. I don't care about talk. I think it's 618 00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.800 the very beginning of that though, Like I don't think she might have been 619 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.719 consulting an attorney. I don't know if he is like, this is the 620 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:30.920 very beginning of these types of conversations and hopefully as we go on we'll be 621 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.400 able to hear some more. But like I'm not holding my breath. Yeah, 622 00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:36.239 we'll see. And then we get back to Tahoe, and this is 623 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:40.199 where everybody starts getting like dressed to go to Lisa vander Pump's new restaurant that's 624 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:47.760 under construction called whoa, Oh my god, masculine and woodsy like tah Okay, 625 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.039 like okay, Lisa vander Pump. But it's like a total mess in 626 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.960 this new restaurant because there it's all under construction and there's like a wall up 627 00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.400 for everybody to knock down honey with their weak ass swings. You want to 628 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:05.000 talk about cringe. I mean the whole thing was cringey. I mean it 629 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.360 was sad when Tom Schwartz hit the wall and said I don't want to be 630 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:12.360 single at forty. I know that's sad, but I mean, again, 631 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.519 you brought that shit on yourself. Yeah, but like when Tom sand of 632 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:23.320 all bitch this started hitting the wall and over calling out Scandaval and then calling 633 00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:28.760 out La law and with a mustache, and I'm just like, oh my 634 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:34.400 God, this was his moment to perform. Yeah, and he couldn't really, 635 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:42.320 He's got those thin little tooth pick arms. You're skipping arm day and 636 00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:46.400 like all days are being skipped. But like it was just so performative. 637 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:51.840 Yeah, And like, do you not have the function to see how it 638 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.599 is you appear to other people? No? Like, I feel like I 639 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.199 can do that. I can kind of tell if I'm talking too much, 640 00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.639 or I can kind of tell, you know, if somebody wants me to 641 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:01.679 I can you can you get the dae? Yeah? I check. But 642 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:07.519 Tom does not have any sense whatsoever how this is coming across to other people. 643 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.559 They're literally laughing at it, I know, and I'm cringing watching it 644 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:14.760 through my fingers. On this episode, I'm like, dude, forty how 645 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.280 old is he? Forty forty one? Forty one? Loser, dude, 646 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.639 I can't like every time I see him, I'm like, I hate you 647 00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:27.599 with your fucking nail polish, your fucking I like his nail polish. I 648 00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.519 mean, I don't mind a metrosexual male. I like him. I like 649 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.639 him having his own sense of style. I don't necessarily like that. I 650 00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:36.559 mean, I don't have a problem with any of that. I have a 651 00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.519 problem with this bullshit. Yeah, calling out Lalla's name, I know, 652 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:44.320 calling out all of this shit. Arian. I don't remember everything he said. 653 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:45.079 I didn't write it down, but I was just like, oh god, 654 00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:49.840 can I fast forward this? This is not hitting how you think is 655 00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.239 hitting with the kids. I know it was uncomfortable, and everybody's calling it 656 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.559 out like ooh, I said that to him. I said that to him, 657 00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:58.559 like, oh god, And this just proves, like, Tom, 658 00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:02.119 you're not actually working on yourself for like actually taking any accountability because you're still 659 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:07.119 mad at everybody else for some fucking reason. You're still blaming. It's so 660 00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.440 ridiculous. You're still deflecting, like he didn't even hit the hammer for what 661 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:15.000 he did. He knows, what about the things you caused, like Jesus 662 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:22.679 crackers. H. And then after that cringe fucking sledgehammer therapy session, everybody 663 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.920 goes to lunch with Lisa vander Pump and this is also kind of does she 664 00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.440 have to be in scenes at all? I mean, right, like, 665 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.400 let's get the party started, kids, I'm like, oh my god, 666 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:36.000 no, not now, we can't party because you're here. Plus you're our 667 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.920 boss. A little bit you're the executive producer of the show, right, 668 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:43.159 you're I don't know, sixty something like beat it. I know Lisa, 669 00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:47.559 and you know they're going to like a two pm dinner because she's old early 670 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:52.360 bird special. Yeah real. And this whole thing was just like awkward because 671 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:57.119 people are talking to Schwartz and they're like, yeah, it's sad that you 672 00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.920 hit the sledgehammer for wanting to be not wanting to be single at forty? 673 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:05.000 What about your friends with benefits Joe right, Which I'm just like, he's 674 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.400 not fucking Joe. He's thinking about Sandival. Well, the rumor was that 675 00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:13.960 he was with Joe or that's a beard, they were in a relationship, 676 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:17.280 but like he was very reticent to claim her because apparently she's kind of a 677 00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:21.960 weirdo. I don't know, Like in that scene from last week when Joe 678 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.280 was there and Tom and Tom were trying to talk about stuff and Joe kept 679 00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.360 trying to interject. Apparently Joe like talks a lot, oh and talks over 680 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:32.920 people and inserts herself into situations, and so they kept talking over her. 681 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.400 But yeah, I think she's a weirdo, and I think maybe Schwartz was 682 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:38.519 with her for a period of time, but now is just trying to get 683 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:42.679 rid of her. That's cringe. Yeah, he just keeps saying that the 684 00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.639 table too. He's like, I'm single. I'm fine with it, you 685 00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.639 guys, but you know he cries himself to sleep with his plants and to 686 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:54.280 succulents. Yeah, and then Lisa fucking vander Pump for some reason, says, 687 00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:59.280 hey, let's everybody say one thing we love about Sandoval. James, 688 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:05.760 you start why, literally why, and nobody says anything, Like James doesn't 689 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.719 say anything. Nobody wants to say anything. I Meanwhile, Sandval's taking selfies 690 00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:12.679 with me. I know, see if somebody likes me. I'm sitting here 691 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.719 with somebody. I have a friend in the cast. That was so ridiculous. 692 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:21.480 Why do you need why do you need to advocate for this guy so 693 00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:23.920 much? I don't get it. Uh, because she feels bad for him 694 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:28.679 because he manipulated her and said that he wanted to unlive himself, and so 695 00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.239 she's like worried about him and his mental health, even though he's taking selfies 696 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:35.400 with Brock and doesn't care. No, he doesn't. He literally is there 697 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.800 for the optics and for the show because he wants to get paid. Yeah, 698 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.880 that's it. That was ridiculous. And then after dinner, after the 699 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.679 early bird dinner, all the young kids are still wanted to go out drinks, 700 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:50.239 thirty five to forty year olds. Yeah, they all want to go 701 00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.440 out for drinks afterwards, So they go do that, and then Sandoval asks 702 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:58.039 James to go and talk with him. Yet again, we have to have 703 00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.519 another private conversation with him and James, And I mean this one was a 704 00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:07.320 little bit better than the birthday party one because Sandoval wasn't as defensive, right, 705 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:08.800 and James kind of opens up about it, and he's like, dude, 706 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:13.039 you were like my big bro. I looked up to you, I 707 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.480 idolized you, I fucking love to you, and then you fucking betrayed me. 708 00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:22.800 I'm just like, this is crange, you know. And I can 709 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:28.079 see why he feels betrayed because Tom Sandoval slept with his ex girlfriend, But 710 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.519 I mean, he wasn't actually with Raquel anymore, you know, he was 711 00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:34.599 already moving on to Ali I think, right, I mean, but I 712 00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.400 can still see like how that would hurt that your best friend, somebody you 713 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.880 think is your best friend, and your brother went on to sleep with your 714 00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:44.159 ex like that's bad, like and it's something that would be so easy to 715 00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.800 own for sure. It's not like what he did to Ariana, Like it's 716 00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.840 to James, and James has been a piece of shit and he's moved on 717 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.159 from Kristen to somebody else, to somebody else to Lalla. They's cheated on 718 00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:57.159 Raquel with Laala. So all you have to do is say, yeah, 719 00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.559 that was really wrong. Yeah, you're my bro. I should not have 720 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.679 done that. Sorry, was overcome, Like it's super easy to own and 721 00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:06.360 clear, but Tom just can't do it. He tries to do it in 722 00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:09.639 this conversation. He does apologize and say I'm sorry, but he doesn't really 723 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:14.599 say what he's sorry for, right, He doesn't say what I've learned from 724 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:16.159 what I did, And he doesn't say, well, this is how I'm 725 00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:20.440 gonna change my behavior, so I can promise you it never happens again. 726 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.480 Like, none of that kind of conversation happens. Just like, I'm sorry, 727 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:24.400 you know, and I really want to get back to being bros. 728 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:29.239 Yeah, like let's be broz again. Hopefully we can rekindle our bro ship. 729 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.840 Yeah, but I did like that. James also confronted him with the 730 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.559 whole affair, and he was like, you could have fucking broken up with 731 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.280 Arianna, like, yeah, things were so bad, yes, Like you 732 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.239 could have broken up with her and then gotten with Raquel, but you didn't. 733 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.960 And then Sandoval again is like, but it wasn't that easy, you 734 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:49.320 understand, thinking, oh the way she looked at me, oh the way 735 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.280 she talked to me. Man, it wasn't that easy. You don't get 736 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.119 it. So fucking stupid. I'm like, that is so dumb and such 737 00:49:55.119 --> 00:50:01.239 an unmanly, like unmature, unmature, immature answer to say, like, 738 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:05.360 it is that easy. You could have just fucking told Arianna, look, 739 00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:07.440 we're not having sex. You're kind of a bitch to me. I don't 740 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:12.480 want to be in this relationship with you. Let's break up amicably and then 741 00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.039 try to untangle all of our finances and everything so that way I can go 742 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:17.519 fuck with cat all right, no matter what, that would have been the 743 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:22.199 best thing to do. But try to defend in this conversation with James why 744 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:23.039 you didn't do that, like, oh my god, please stop, just 745 00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.360 shut your mouth. I know, and I can't believe, like in his 746 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.360 talking head, Sandoval's talking head he's like trying to throw Orianna under the bus. 747 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:34.039 And like we've talked about this before prior episodes, Like you said, 748 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.239 you've watched this whole series and you've seen how much of a bitch Ariana could 749 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.400 be to Sandval, and so like, yeah, maybe their relationship wasn't the 750 00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:45.599 best, maybe he wasn't happy. Again, doesn't justify cheating on her with 751 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.599 her best friend. Walk away from the relationship. Be a big boy. 752 00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.639 Yes, make a decision even though it hurts somebody and it hurts you, 753 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.000 just do it. I think he's got a cheating fetish, like if he 754 00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:59.840 did this with Kristen and getting with Ariana, Like, I think he's got 755 00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:01.760 to eat fetish, like he likes the thrill, because some people are like 756 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:07.039 that, they like the excitement and everything. But then get with somebody who's 757 00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.480 kinky and then open your marriage or something or like a relationship, create a 758 00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.199 relationship that can accommodate the things that you want to do. But can I 759 00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.840 just qualify my comment about Ariana being a bitch? I mean, I think 760 00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:21.239 I would be a bitch too if I was with Tom SAMs for really, 761 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.679 I mean, and the money that he's putting behind all of these fucking vanity 762 00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:30.639 projects, these bands and these parties and these things that he's so extravagant like 763 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.960 and just who he thinks he is, Like he's a narcissist. Like I 764 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:38.159 can't imagine the emotional toil that would take on like a normal stable person to 765 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.360 have to cohabitate with somebody like that. Yeah. So yeah, every now 766 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.360 and again she's like, oh, Tom, shut up, because Tom, 767 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.039 you should shut up. Yeah, you know, I mean she should have 768 00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:51.360 left the relationship. Obviously he should have as well. But like, I 769 00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:54.360 just there's a reason Ariana was like that from time to time. Nobody knows 770 00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.960 what happened behind closed doors, But like I get it is all I'm saying, 771 00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:00.360 right, I just couldn't believe that. In this episode he still saying, 772 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.320 yeah, but everybody else treated me like crap. They need to acknowledge 773 00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.800 how they treated me. Right, I'm like, oh my god, what 774 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.239 is wrong with you? You have to get to the place where you're okay 775 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:13.679 with nobody apologizing to you, even though they may or may not have done 776 00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:15.320 something to harm you. Right, you have to get to the place where 777 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:21.079 you're you don't need that apology. You just want to hold yourself accountable to 778 00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.079 make amends where they need to be made, and if they come back to 779 00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:27.920 you some other time and say sorry, that's just gravy. That's just wonderful, 780 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.639 but you don't need it and you don't expect it. That's not how 781 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:34.400 apologies work, right. But you know he's doing guided meditation. Okay, 782 00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.079 so he's really that helps you, So hope it helps you. God, 783 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:42.519 I can't wait to see that stupid guided meditation next episode. It's gonna be 784 00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.760 so cringe. Is this how it ends with James and Thomas. That's the 785 00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:47.559 last thing. Okay, Yeah, to preview for next week, which is 786 00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:53.199 just a fight with Lalla because I think he starts coming for people for profiting 787 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:58.039 off of scandival. He's gonna start blaming some of these people and they're gonna 788 00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:00.760 have a bad reaction to it, as one would expect. Yes, which 789 00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:05.280 I'm kind of excited to see because I want some drama please, And there's 790 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.880 a lot of talkie talk yeah anything, I just believe. Yeah, let's 791 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.800 get to it, Bravo, let's get evolution. I can't believe that I 792 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:16.239 join this show, this series when everyone starts getting sober, I know, 793 00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:22.639 starts getting like less shitty, right, Yeah, it would have been better 794 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.719 for you to pop on in earlier seasons, but I'm still holding out. 795 00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:29.000 I still think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be good. I think 796 00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:30.639 it will. I think we're gonna start seeing some interesting things, like again 797 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:36.760 Katie with the girlfriend who also likes Schwartz, so it's a love triangle, 798 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:38.360 like I definitely want to get to that, I know, and some of 799 00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:42.880 the other things that happened with Tom and Arianna because we saw the preview where 800 00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.320 she's shrieking about her children, Yeah, and he's like, what do you 801 00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:47.960 mean children? Like, there's a lot. I hope that is still to 802 00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:52.679 come. But I'm just wondering if Evolution is reading social media. Yeah, 803 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:59.519 is Evolution reading fucking reddit and the vander Pump Rules sub reddit because they're hating 804 00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.159 the way that this season is going. Are they just four five episodes? 805 00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:06.719 And yeah, they're hating it because it does feel very heavy handed, like 806 00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:10.480 production is trying to make us forgive Tom Sandoval, and we just we're not 807 00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:15.119 ready to, oh, especially if he's not going to demonstrate the behaviors that 808 00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.000 we need to see in order to do it right. So like, change 809 00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:20.320 it up while you still can. It's the beginning of the season. Get 810 00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.519 your editors in and give us something more. Yeah, I was seeing some 811 00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:27.280 shit on Reddit, like last week or something that they were saying that they 812 00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.400 think that the show's being edited as we're watching it, like that some people 813 00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:32.920 are noticing some of the I guess, like some of the times that the 814 00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:37.719 episodes have been posted or whatever, and they're developing some conspiracy theories about the 815 00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:42.639 narrative, like they had to change it last minute because Rachel decided not to 816 00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.880 be on the show or something. But I'm like, if they are editing 817 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.719 the show while we're watching it, that's your next best edit it better. 818 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.840 Like the fucking redemption aren't make it better? Like what are we doing? 819 00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.880 I don't get it. Well, hopefully it starts to make sense. I 820 00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:59.519 mean, I'm still enjoying the show. Yeah, I enjoyed it as well. 821 00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.239 Like I like the dynamics between the people. I think there's a lot 822 00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:06.079 of Like I like all the gossip. I like how vapid all these people 823 00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:09.639 are god so out of touch, so crazy living in southern California, just 824 00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:15.320 injecting their lips and stuff ungrounded af except for Katie and Arianna. They're grounded. 825 00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:16.960 They seem like real people who exist on our planet. First. Other 826 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:22.079 ones are just lost in the fucking Hollywood matrix. And it's great, which 827 00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:23.599 is a shame because I liked Laala at first and now I'm just kind of 828 00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:29.639 like, oh, you're saying that Sandoval's admirable for him being sober, Well 829 00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:31.599 that's all she's got. But I mean I do like La La. I 830 00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:36.960 mean I think she often is the voice of reason. But a broken clock 831 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:38.039 is right twice a day, So like, wow, I don't know. 832 00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:43.119 We'll just see how things go. Yeah, we will definitely continue to watch. 833 00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:45.400 Yeah, is there anything else you want to say about VPR before we 834 00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:50.679 do? That's about it. Next week we're gonna start covering Seeking Sister Wise. 835 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:52.559 Oh my go what I'm excited about? They Yeah, And as a 836 00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:57.519 reminder, normally we release our podcast at the beginning of the week on a 837 00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:01.599 Monday for patrons Tuesday for everybody else, But because we're doing Seeking Sister Wives, 838 00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:06.480 which comes out on Monday, we're going to be doing Tuesday and Wednesday. 839 00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.519 So Tuesday if you're a patron and Wednesday if you're a regular Reguller, 840 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:14.760 but VPR will stay the same Thursday Friday, So justf y, I don't 841 00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:17.199 worry about mommy and mommy, we'll be back. We're coming back from the 842 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:21.760 store. We're bringing groceries. Yes, be a little late, but we'll 843 00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.440 be back. Yes. 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