1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,440 I'll look at news, analysis and insight from around the Big Ten conference. 2 00:00:05,879 --> 00:00:10,359 This is Big Ten Paradigm, part of the College Gridiron Coast to Coast podcast 3 00:00:10,439 --> 00:00:18,079 network, and here's your host, Mark Rogers. God bless America, You 4 00:00:18,359 --> 00:00:25,960 American Patriots will bask in the spectacle that is the Army Navy Clash this Saturday. 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:32,359 But otherwise there's no college football until bowl games commenced the following Saturday. 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,079 So for this week, it's all about National Signing Day coming up in two 7 00:00:37,079 --> 00:00:42,079 weeks. The Transfer Portal opened on December fourth, and it is flooded with 8 00:00:42,119 --> 00:00:47,920 over one thousand college football players already. Right here on the Big Ten Paradigm, 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:54,200 we will break down Transfer Portal losses, targets, and upcoming bowl games 10 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,880 for three specific Big Ten schools at Ohio State, Iowa, and Nebraska. 11 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:03,599 First for the Buckeye Steve hell Wagon of buck Nuts two four seven Sports, 12 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:08,359 Tony Gerdaman and Kevin Noon of Buckeye Huddle joined me each and every Wednesday at 13 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:14,159 eleven am Eastern Time at the Voice of College Football Nebraska with Greg Peterson of 14 00:01:14,239 --> 00:01:21,439 Husker Online and Justin Adams, our postgame host on our Huskers Channel. And 15 00:01:21,519 --> 00:01:25,760 for the Hawkeyes of Iowa of course Corey Brada from the Hawkeye of the Storm, 16 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:30,200 each and every Tuesday at five thirty Eastern time. Once again, we're 17 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,359 in the same spot we were a year ago. You know, where you 18 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:38,400 have to go and improve to take that next step, because as long as 19 00:01:38,439 --> 00:01:42,760 Phil Parker's here, this defense is going to be really good. And you 20 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:48,280 know, unless there are significant changes with philosophy and play calling and scheme, 21 00:01:48,599 --> 00:01:53,040 the offense is not going to be to a level where it can compete on 22 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,000 that stage. You know, we've talked about it for so long, but 23 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:04,879 like what we saw Saturday was just further evidence that you cannot beat the best 24 00:02:04,879 --> 00:02:08,000 teams, even in the Big Ten with this style. You can't. And 25 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:12,639 when I say this style, I'm not talking about you know, field position 26 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:15,680 and you know, utilizing your special teams unit, and you know, I 27 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,240 understand that has worked in the past against some of the better opponents in the 28 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,000 country, but you cannot do that with this level of offense. You just 29 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,039 can't. You can win a lot of games like this, especially in this 30 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,879 division and even in this conference as a whole. They beat Rutgers out of 31 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:34,960 the East twenty two zero. My guess is they probably would have beaten Maryland. 32 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,280 We don't know that they would have beaten Indiana. I mean, there's 33 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,840 other teams outside of the division. I don't think people realize that there are 34 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:44,400 bad teams in a lot of divisions, including the Big Denist. But you 35 00:02:44,439 --> 00:02:50,599 cannot expect to compete and beat teams like Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan 36 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,439 with this type of style and offense. You just can't. There's just not 37 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,479 enough. There's not enough defense to go around. There's not enough special teams 38 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:05,800 to go around. If I was special teams unit had played perfect perfect on 39 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,159 Saturday because the defense basically played perfect. I mean, in large part it 40 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:13,319 basically played perfect. The special teams unit plays perfect. I think they still 41 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,879 lose. It might be close because I don't know how you know, who 42 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,680 knows, but I don't think it would have maken It made a twenty six 43 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,960 point difference. They scored zero points, you know, I mean, you 44 00:03:24,039 --> 00:03:29,280 just can't win scoring zero points. You just can't do it. And you 45 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:30,520 hope that your defense. You know, the one thing the defense didn't do 46 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,319 Saturday was they did not convert on a couple of opportunities. Nick Jackson had 47 00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:38,919 an opportunity in an interception. He just dropped and I don't know if he 48 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,639 would have taken it back to the house he had green in front of him. 49 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:46,039 No missed opportunity. But in general, are we really relying on the 50 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,520 defense to score? In the past, they have, and it's worked in 51 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,039 some bigger games, but when they're not getting that type of production, you 52 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,520 have no chance. When you have this type of offense. I would have 53 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,680 to scour my brain, or I could just simply go in the internet and 54 00:04:00,719 --> 00:04:08,199 go to all the championship results in every conference. But I believe that is 55 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:14,639 the first shutout in any conference championship game in the history of Power five football 56 00:04:15,479 --> 00:04:18,279 going back to nineteen ninety two, the first SEC championship game, not just 57 00:04:18,319 --> 00:04:21,319 in the Big Ten. I think that is the first shutout. So that 58 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:29,240 underlines how incredibly atrocious that offense is. And you made a comment about style, 59 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,000 and it's not that I disagree with you about the style, because I 60 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:40,199 do think that they need to be more creative. But Michigan plays in a 61 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,480 similar style as Iowa. From an offensive standpoint, they're just better. They 62 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,800 just have more dynamic players. They've coached the offensive line better, they've just 63 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,000 developed their players. They've recruited better players, and then they've coached them better 64 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,480 on that side of the ball. Yeah, And when I said style, 65 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,319 I meant that's why I kind of corrected that style. When you have this 66 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,319 bad of an offense, like, you better get creative. If you're going 67 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,399 to have this bad of an offense, you can't just do what you're doing 68 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,399 and have you know, like you said, the problems. Everyone's talking about 69 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:17,439 the development of the offensive line. I mean I went back and listened to 70 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,560 part of one of the postgame shows, I think was after Wisconsin the other 71 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:24,000 day, and there were callers. I mean, there was one guy that 72 00:05:24,079 --> 00:05:26,959 called in, and you know, I love our callers, they're great, 73 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,240 as you love your callers, but this one guy, I mean, he 74 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:31,639 just rattled off every phase of the game. Oh, the offensive line was 75 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,439 amazing, and Brian called a great game and the linebackers just dominated. Oh 76 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,439 I'm just so happy. And it's like, Okay, you're a Homer. 77 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,360 That's fine. But the fact of the matter is, go back to the 78 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,439 Big Ten Awards. Not a single old lineman was named to an All Big 79 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,879 Ten team. That's concerning, not a first team, not a second team 80 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,360 All Big ten. Maybe they got a third team all Big ten lineman. 81 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:00,199 I have to go back and look. But not good. I mean, 82 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:04,120 when you're talking about an Iowa team, they're supposed to be known for offensive 83 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,720 line play, and you got a bunch of guys that they just saw will 84 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:13,040 give them an honorable mention. That line is still not even close to where 85 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:17,879 it needs to be. And so those are problems. And you know what's 86 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,000 crazy about Saturday, Mark, And this is the first time you and I 87 00:06:20,079 --> 00:06:25,839 have spoken face to face about this game. What's crazy about Saturday is it 88 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:30,319 played out like exactly the way we kind of thought it would and as Iowa 89 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:34,519 fans kind of feared it would, like it's so predictable. It's not like 90 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,839 twenty It's not like the game result was like wow, look at what Michigan 91 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,680 did. It's like, this is what we expected. The Iowa defense is 92 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,120 going to show off. The Iowa offense wasn't gonna do anything I gave. 93 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:47,079 I tried to give Brian Ferns a benefit of the doubt going into the game 94 00:06:47,079 --> 00:06:51,199 because I thought he'll do something different, like play calling, he'll have wrinkles 95 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,720 ready. They didn't do anything different mark. I didn't see him look down 96 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:59,920 the field. What was your score? What was your score? Prediction? 97 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:06,000 I had twenty three thirteen oh thirteen points? Yeah, I had. Well, 98 00:07:08,079 --> 00:07:12,600 here's the deal. At some point I expected to be able to get 99 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,639 in field goal range and convert on one or two good punt plays, which 100 00:07:15,639 --> 00:07:18,959 Tory Taylor played really well, and then maybe you get a pick six or 101 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,439 you break a big run like I was done a couple of times. But 102 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:25,680 it's not It wouldn't be crazy. If you had told me beforehand I was 103 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,240 going to get shut out, I wouldn't have called you crazy. And honestly, 104 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:32,319 people may disagree with this. I think if they don't give up the 105 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,560 eighty seven yard punt return, maybe they only lose by ten or fifteen. 106 00:07:36,759 --> 00:07:40,040 I know they lost by twenty six, but I do think that has a 107 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:42,720 significant difference. But they would I think that would have lost either way. 108 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:45,319 I want to make that clear. So that's kind of where I was thinking 109 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,360 as far as prediction is concerned. Definitely, Corey, make that clear. 110 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:54,040 You don't want any Michigan fans coming after you, so make that clear that 111 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:59,199 you still believe that Iowa. I'm making it clear and I wouldn't want them 112 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:05,680 to continued. Yeah, I'll give Michigan fans credit. I have had less 113 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,759 flack and less pushback. There were less Michigan fans on the show, the 114 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:13,480 postgame show Saturday than I expected. Now there's as you know, when you 115 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,759 get these big shows that everybody's tuning in for, you can't get through all 116 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:20,959 the chats. So I didn't see everything. But I'll give Michigan fans credit. 117 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:24,879 A lot of people were just relentless heading into the game. I have 118 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,360 not heard as much postgame and why what do you have to brack about? 119 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,120 I mean, you won the game. Your offense didn't really do anything. 120 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,000 You dominated a bad Iowa offense. You did win special teams in that eighty 121 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,799 seven yard that is. Somebody asked me during the game, what's the play 122 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,159 of the game. Who's the player of the game. I was sitting next 123 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:46,039 to somebody from I think it was the Indianapolis Star or some Indianapolis outlet next 124 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:46,399 to me, who didn't have a horse in the race. I mean, 125 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:50,519 he's just a local reporter covering it in press box. Him and I were 126 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,799 chatting, and of course the Big ten wanted credentialed media to vote on Player 127 00:08:54,799 --> 00:08:58,679 of the Game, and he asked me, well, who's player a game? 128 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:01,919 And I'm like, well, it's not Corum, it's not McCarthy, 129 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,440 it's nobody specifically on defense. I just said, you know, it's the 130 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,360 guy who returned the eighty seven yard punt, because that was the biggest play 131 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:13,159 in the game. In my opinion. If I'm a you know, I'm 132 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:18,000 not going to Selectory Taylor on a team that got shut out. So and 133 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,480 I think Michigan's punter they I don't know how many times they punted, but 134 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:24,639 my guess is his numbers were okay. They certainly weren't what Tories were, 135 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:31,399 and so I give Jim Harbaugh credit to two years ago. There was some 136 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,879 criticism even from Don Patterson about kind of how they carried themselves late in that 137 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:37,200 game, kind of tried to run up the score. I don't know that 138 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,480 they would have been able to run with the score. On Saturday. Had 139 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,480 a fourth and one in field goal range, up twenty three zero, and 140 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,159 the smart play was to kick a field goal, and that's what he did, 141 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,480 you know, just put it away, put it up by more than 142 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:52,480 three scores and games over at that point. So I give Jim Jim Harbaugh 143 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:56,840 credit for that, but now you you know, turn the table, turned 144 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:03,679 the page to Tennessee, and this is probably strength against strength with Tennessee's offense 145 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:09,399 versus Iowa's defense. And the guy who's got strong connections to Iowa. They're 146 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,440 head coach of course, coach with Bob Stoops down at Oklahoma, coach with 147 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:18,960 Jane Norvel, and I think played for Boy would have played for Chuck Long 148 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:24,600 down at Oklahoma and knows Mike and Bobby from Oklahoma coached against Iowa and the 149 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:30,600 twenty eleven Insight Bowl that was a win for Oklahoma. So song connections there 150 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,559 should be an interesting game and a sunny destination at least for Iowa fans. 151 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,000 See late in that game, I was just hoping. I didn't have any 152 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:43,799 money on the game, but just I make my predictions, and I was 153 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,600 just hoping at twenty three nothing that Iowa could just kick a field goal, 154 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:52,639 just kick a field goal. I took iowen twenty two and my predictions, 155 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:58,919 just kick a field goal, but they couldn't get that accomplished. And I 156 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,799 have not checked the chat, but I wouldn't be surprised if somebody corrected me. 157 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,519 This was a miss on my part that should have been pretty obvious to 158 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,879 me when I said I cannot think of any and I get a pretty good 159 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:15,399 recollection of all conference championship games scores throughout history. There was one in the 160 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,720 Big Ten that I should have obviously been able to get because it led to 161 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:24,720 a national championship. Ohio State fifty nine, Wisconsin nothing zero. Yeah, 162 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,600 it was that one. So everybody out there consider this. I'm not going 163 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,159 to go through all the names of the starting quarterbacks, but I'll just say 164 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:37,720 it this way. Consider starting quarterbacks at Oregon State, UCLA, Mississippi State, 165 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:45,200 Arkansas, Minnesota, Ohio State, and we could keep going. I 166 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,000 could name some other ones. Kansas State comes to mind. All those guys 167 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:56,519 I've entered the transfer portal, all sorts of experienced quarterbacks. And we know 168 00:11:56,639 --> 00:12:00,679 what we know right now. I mean, Lebrosha has already talked to Kansas 169 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,799 State's Will Howard. We know that they've already talked with Michigan State Sam Levitt. 170 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,879 They went to Baylor today to see Blake Sap and they're en route to 171 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,000 Columbus, Ohio to talk to Tom McCord right now. So that's basically in 172 00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:24,080 a nutshell, what they're up to right now. Yep. And the biggest, 173 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,480 you know, the biggest thing about the QB room and what might come 174 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:33,759 from this is it's the question marks of are they going to want to get 175 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,759 one quarterback in the portal? I know Rule again had alluded to a guy 176 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,440 he wanted for multiple years. Well, Levitt fits that perfectly. He's got 177 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,639 four years. He somewhat fits what they want to do in the offense, 178 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,879 you know, because he's he's mobile, really good pocket awareness. You know, 179 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:54,960 he made some great throws. The twenty five yard touchdown pass he threw 180 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,360 was actually against Nebraska. It was that little tight window throw where they dove 181 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,200 in the with the guy dove in the end zone. Wasn't a catch. 182 00:13:03,759 --> 00:13:07,840 They called it a catch. It wasn't a catch, but the throw was 183 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:11,120 still money, Like he put the throw right where it needs to be. 184 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:13,879 He was. You know, he's underthrown a few deep balls just looking at 185 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:20,279 his game film back, but he makes some exceptional tight window throws and there's 186 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,759 no doubt in his confidence. He's very confidence ability. So that and that 187 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:28,240 that leads me to wonder if that scratcher to me too, though. He 188 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:33,039 doesn't really fit the mold. And you know, like like Rule said, 189 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:39,399 he wants definitely fits the you know, has multiple years, but like Will 190 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,080 Howard, doesn't really make sense to me. He's only got a year left. 191 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:50,360 H Yeah, lake shape and you know he recruited him at Baylor connection 192 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:56,440 there. Cal McCord is a passing quarterback. He's not that dual threat guy 193 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:01,960 like like Matt Rule wants. So that one's kind of strange to me as 194 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,480 well. Why do you you win eleven games at Ohio State with the kind 195 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:09,960 of weapons that you have, Why would you want to come to Nebraska that 196 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:13,240 you have a bunch of freshmen fast wide receivers that don't have much experience, 197 00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:20,279 and you know, the product hasn't shown on the field. So that's weird 198 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,120 as well. I mean, this is going to be a long way from 199 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:28,320 over and obviously nil has a big thing to do with it. So many 200 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,600 of these quarterbacks are in the portal and you don't know are they are they 201 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:37,120 in it for the payday or are they in it to win at the next 202 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,720 level. And you know, right now, Nebraska hasn't shown that on the 203 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:46,759 field that's going to make you get to the NFL any faster with what's going 204 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:52,039 on right now. So it's just, you know, with so many options 205 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:58,240 out there, it's just in my mind, it's it's kind of silly to 206 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,600 try to to try to us who who they're going to take this time right 207 00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:07,879 now. Yeah, there's there's no telling. It's just to just a matter 208 00:15:07,919 --> 00:15:13,200 of trying to see what the rest of the quarterback room is going to do 209 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,840 too. When we do get one of these guys, you know, because 210 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:22,000 you know, Jubba Party can probably you know, get some money somewhere, 211 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:26,360 just you know, with the name value party itself. And then also you 212 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:31,360 know, does he potentially want to come sit behind a guy, you know, 213 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:35,559 if we bring in you know, I think if we bring in Will 214 00:15:35,639 --> 00:15:37,559 Rogers or something like that, of course he's going to be the starter. 215 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:43,240 So does Chubbo one of them come sit behind him? What happens there? 216 00:15:43,559 --> 00:15:46,200 You know, what happens with the churn Harburg and all them. That's another 217 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:52,480 thing too, is just I'm wondering if they're courting multiple just in case we 218 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:56,279 lose a quarterback in the portal after we make a move or so. But 219 00:15:56,279 --> 00:16:02,120 now they're doing their own thing now, I mean, last year, you 220 00:16:02,159 --> 00:16:07,879 know, they the big get was Jeff Simms, and that was a suggestion 221 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:14,360 from a head coach colleague. To this year, they're actually going out and 222 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:18,240 looking for a guy. That's so they don't really They're they're gonna take this 223 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:26,039 meticulously slow and you know, gauge gauge it to you know, who's definitely 224 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:30,679 going to fit into the system and who really wants to play here. So 225 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:36,120 yeah, right now, like you know, with all these guys out there 226 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:40,039 that have not made any kind of a decision yet, I mean, it's 227 00:16:40,039 --> 00:16:42,759 so wide open right now, it's going to be interesting to watch, yeah, 228 00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:47,240 for sure. And it's with the SIMS stuff. It's you know, 229 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,639 a lot of you know, SIMS was a very quick thing and it was 230 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:53,480 you know, there was surprise, like even with Casey Thompson last year, 231 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,240 Like we didn't anticipate him leaving last year, but he ended up in there 232 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,000 in the portal surprise, you know. So with SIMS, the only thing 233 00:17:02,039 --> 00:17:07,880 that is concerning is you know, hoping that their evaluation process is better this 234 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,960 year, and I think it will be, just because last year there were 235 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:17,640 so many moving parts, you know, hiring the staff. They had forty 236 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:23,079 seven people visit between December January. I believe I read forty seven visitors between 237 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,519 the transfer portal and the twenty twenty three class in December and January. So 238 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,440 last year it was just go go, go, gun, gun gun, 239 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,599 And it seems like they have the opportunity to slow it down a little bit 240 00:17:34,599 --> 00:17:37,960 more this year and do their due diligence, which I think will hopefully pay 241 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:44,960 off in the long run. So who do you guys want? Do you 242 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:52,119 have a wish list? I actually like Levitt and Howard. I like Levitt 243 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:56,400 as a as a future prospect. His you know, just watching his highlights 244 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,599 and stuff like that. He has really good moments, more good moments than 245 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,880 bad moments. And you know, he was a four star recruit, number 246 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,319 one kid out of Oregon, twenty first overall quarterback in the twenty three class, 247 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,039 you know, so he has the makings of a good quarterback. He 248 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:19,960 just was behind Jonna blank On his name Hauser, who also under the portal, 249 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,880 but he was behind Hawser and like I said, in the limited action, 250 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,440 he had two touchdowns, two interceptions, so nothing to write home about. 251 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,160 Just trying to look at him as a quarterback, though he had he 252 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:34,079 there's some good, but there's more good than bad, and so that's that's 253 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,880 the biggest thing. And then I think if they I don't know if if 254 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:44,920 they go with Levitt since he hit a you know, second year guy with 255 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,880 four years to play, I don't know if they then try to go get 256 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,519 you know, both them and a Will Rogers. I don't know how that's 257 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:53,640 gonna work, but I guess time will tell. But I really like Levitt 258 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:59,920 as a as a future play at prospect. You know, I think I 259 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:03,119 think I would just take a one year rental of Dylan Gabriel is what I 260 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,720 would like to see. That would be nice. That'd be nice if they 261 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:14,680 can land him for sure. There you see Levitt got his feet wet in 262 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:18,559 four Big Ten games. There you see the touchdown pass against Nebraska and two 263 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:25,039 attempts. He also faced Minnesota again the Michigan State was in until late in 264 00:19:25,079 --> 00:19:27,519 the fourth quarter through for seventy three yards and a touchdown there got in the 265 00:19:27,519 --> 00:19:33,480 Michigan game as well, four for seven and also against Maryland. If we 266 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:37,200 would pull up Dylan Gabriel's numbers, we would see them then pop off the 267 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,319 screen at ten thousand yards and one hundred touchdown passes in his career compared to 268 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:48,119 Levitt. Obviously completely different objectives, as Justin said in getting either one of 269 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:55,799 those guys as a one year guy versus a developmental approach, and you got 270 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,680 I mean, you know, if your coach Rule and coach Cyerfield, you 271 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:03,359 got to I try to consider that what's best for your squad right now, 272 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:10,640 the stock file a few wins on a very different looking conference next year where 273 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:18,680 your schedule is loaded, you know, somebody that's proven winner instead of a 274 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,200 guy that like, like you really want a guy that you can develop a 275 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,440 little bit. So it's it's a tough decision, yeah, for sure. 276 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,240 Yeah, And just it's it poses the question of whether you know, Rule, 277 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,920 you know, he's a he's a developer of talent, just in in 278 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,240 his nature, and I you know, he is alluded to wanting to stick 279 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:45,160 to that kind of game plan of bringing guys and develop them. It's just 280 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,359 a matter of, yeah, does he you know, there's a little bit 281 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,400 of urgency I feel like on you know, like you said, winning, 282 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,200 And it's like, does he trust bringing in a guy like Levitt and trust 283 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:02,359 his ability to develop him quickly? Or does he want to go for broke 284 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,160 next year and really try to just attack it with a one year guy like 285 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,240 a Dylan Gabriel or Will Rogers. I just wasn't sure if he was willing 286 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,720 to go, you know, top of the top, if he can get 287 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:23,279 Elevitt type of guy for a little bit less. Yeah, definitely, mm 288 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:30,519 hmm. Yeah. I mean there's a reason why, you know, his 289 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:41,480 statements about how much a transfer quarterback costs still on ESPN right now. You 290 00:21:41,519 --> 00:21:45,880 know, some of these guys are worth five million bucks right now. Crazy, 291 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,240 you know. You know, I know Nebrons is in good shape, 292 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,759 but that eighteen ninety initiative, you know, they don't want to fork out 293 00:21:55,799 --> 00:22:00,039 five million dollars for one player. And that's why, you know, the 294 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,720 business side comes into this so much more that we're not used to anymore. 295 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:11,279 And yeah, I mean Nebraska needs to uh get some of that Warren Buffett 296 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:15,599 money on board and Berkshire halfaway. Where is he at when we need him? 297 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,279 He could buy us a few quarterbacks, yeah, like with with pennies 298 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:27,039 to him essentially, and that never mind he offered you know, he offered 299 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:33,000 my grandmother a job way back in the day. Turned him down. No, 300 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:41,759 she was a market wizard and that impressed him. Yeah, imagine how 301 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:48,279 it's different my life could have been now, mooch and never mind me to 302 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:51,680 his point, Yeah, that's something we talked about last week, where he's 303 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,799 like their college players making more than the pros. We talked about the rookie 304 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:59,359 minimum, like rock Perties making because like the Brookie minimums like seven or fifty 305 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,359 K. And then yeah, these these guys are getting upwards of one point 306 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,240 five to two million, making more than Tony White, if Chubba, if 307 00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:08,960 Chubba. All of a sudden, there's the guy man. Maybe he can 308 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,519 make him more than Brock. Yeah, exactly. Well, that that would 309 00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:19,240 be interesting, wouldn't it. Brock. I'm guessing that San Francisco is taking 310 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:25,559 care of Rock Party. I'm guessing that they bumped that. I might be 311 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:30,960 wrong, like in the top of the MVP conversation right now. So he's 312 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,640 getting some bonuses for sure, exactly, So based on what I'm looking at, 313 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,079 Yeah, officially he's still at age seventy the rookie minimum or the second 314 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,799 year minimum, but yeah, they picked in with bonuses and compensations. Yeah, 315 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:52,559 and who's paying him for advertising too? He probably Yeah. So that's 316 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:56,279 why I feel like Chubba might be, you know, get an opportunity to 317 00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:59,920 to just with his name value, you know, to make money. Yeah. 318 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,160 Essentially there might be people trying to you know, get barbecue plays out 319 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:10,319 of pay for you know job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, barbecue. 320 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,680 Yeah. Whether you go to games all the time or you've got your heart 321 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:19,519 set on that one huge matchup, go to ticketsmarter dot com to save. 322 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:26,200 Big Ticket Smarter technology gives you the best competitive prices on the secondary market. 323 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:33,359 Your purchase price is safe and guaranteed. Use promo code big Big to get 324 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,079 ten dollars off of any purchase of at least one hundred dollars, or the 325 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:45,359 promo code Big twenty Big twenty to get twenty dollars off of any purchase of 326 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,279 at least three hundred dollars. 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Well, and we can dovetail into the super chat if you want 336 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,200 in terms of the who is actually going to be at the Cotton Bowl, 337 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:42,480 because this is You've already got what twelve twelve guys in the portal, and 338 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:48,839 thank you running DAWs for the super chat. With those twelve guys out, 339 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,039 and there's going to be I don't know, five opt outs or so maybe, 340 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:57,799 and you've got some guys that are injured. The FCS scholarship number is 341 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,319 sixty three. I would be shocked if a high state is around that number 342 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,359 going to the Cotton Bowl in terms of scholarship players in that game against whatever 343 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,559 Missouri is going to take in there, their eighty five or whatever. So 344 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:14,559 they're gonna be a little undermanned in that. The walk Ons are gonna have 345 00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:17,759 a great trip. I'll probably play some special teams and things like that. 346 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,880 So that's that's why I asked Ryan Day back on Sunday, is this do 347 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,920 you view this as the start of the twenty twenty four season? And he 348 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,839 talked about, well, you get, we want to finish the twenty twenty 349 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,559 three season the right way, but it is also the start of that. 350 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,279 It's kind of a pre spring spring where you're get to look at all of 351 00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:37,799 these young guys and then you actually get to see what they can do in 352 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,400 a game, provided you give them that opportunity. And of course we talked 353 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:47,160 to him before all of the comm accord stuff came out, but yeah, 354 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,680 it's gonna be an interesting look at the buck Eys because at this point, 355 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000 I don't know that you can safely assume any of the guys that we're talking 356 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,680 about going into the port are going to the NFL Draft, as Steve talking 357 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,400 about, like these ten guys or what at this point where you can't assume 358 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,599 those guys are going to play. So if you are a starter and you 359 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,960 have an NFL decision, just assume that guy is not going to play in 360 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,759 this game, and then you know the guy below that moves up. Basically, 361 00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:18,119 yeah, I think about ten years ago, they played Clemson in the 362 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,319 Orange Bowl down in Miami, and the safety play for Ive State had been 363 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,119 terrible all season, so they made the decision. During bowl practice they pushed 364 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,880 Von Bell, who was a true freshman, played mostly on special teams and 365 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,559 maybe a little bit as a backup. They pushed him into production and played 366 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,359 him quite a bit in that game, and he ended up having an interception 367 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,880 on the goal line against Tas Boyd and Clemson in that game. And then 368 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:44,920 I don't know if he was a first team All American when they won the 369 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,319 national championship the following season, but that was a guy who leapt out at 370 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:56,599 you in bowl practice and in the bowl game who the following year that ended 371 00:27:56,599 --> 00:28:00,200 in a four just like the one. Next year, Will came on and 372 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:06,160 was a certainly all Big Den player. It got some All American acclaim I 373 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,400 believe, and then jumped off to the NFL after twenty fifteen, So a 374 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:17,039 three year player for the Buckeye. So I think that's the example. That's 375 00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:18,880 the film I would put up. You know, see this guy right here, 376 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:23,200 and then you know, juxtapose that with the fact that he's now in 377 00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:29,200 his eighth season in the NFL or whatever and say this can be you. 378 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,640 With a good month of December, this can be you. So you know, 379 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:37,640 that's the goal for those young guys this month is to jump off the 380 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:44,200 chart, make a winning play against Missouri, and you know, set yourself 381 00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:48,200 up for a big spring in a big year in twenty twenty four. That's 382 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,920 what this this month is development. You don't want to lose this game because 383 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:59,000 you don't want the negative recruiting and the whispers from the Dodds in the forties 384 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:03,119 to be oh Ohio State's the next Clemson, you know that was at the 385 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,599 top and has now falling completely off the side of the mountain. You know, 386 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,559 you don't want a South Carolina out back Bowl twenty four to seven job 387 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:15,720 to hit you here. You want, you know, you want to make 388 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,039 a representative showing you don't want to get knocked out of the box in this 389 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,480 game by playing all the young guys. But at the same time, the 390 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:26,400 result of this game is not anything anybody will remember three months from now. 391 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,400 It's what's going on, you know, requisite with twenty twenty four. Yeah, 392 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,559 it's crazy obviously, you know, since we last we're here, Ohio 393 00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:38,400 State lost Kyle McCord. He decided on Monday to enter the transfer portal, 394 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,920 and that created an opening in Ohio State. You figured he would be at 395 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,559 minimum in the competition to compete for the starting job at Ohio State next year, 396 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:52,319 and now that job's wide open. You got Devin Brown, Redschard freshman 397 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:57,839 currently, Lincoln keynots a true freshman, and Aaron Nolan who's coming in as 398 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,680 a twenty twenty three I need will sign his letter of intent here in two 399 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,200 weeks from today, I guess. So are they in the market for a 400 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,680 transfer portal quarterback? I think if they can get one of the top ones 401 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:17,400 who could come in right away and put this team in contention for the Big 402 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,240 Ten championship and another playoff berth next year, I don't think you can turn 403 00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:26,720 that down. If you get somebody with multiple years, obviously you're going to 404 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:33,480 run the risk of losing Devon Brown. Only Ryan Day and Brian Hartline and 405 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:37,240 Corey Dennis, you know the triumvirate. You know on the Ohio State coaching 406 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:41,200 staff know for sure what they have with Devin Brown or what they think they 407 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,200 might have with Lincoln Keenhole, who they've only seen you know a little bit 408 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:52,000 of at this point, So it would be hard to turn down the likes 409 00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:56,599 of say a Dylan Gabriel, a guy you know coming from Oklahoma and Central 410 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:02,400 Florida through for a bazillion yards. You've got Cam Word from Washington State who's 411 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,960 kind of an intriguing possibility as well. Thirty seven hundred yards this past season, 412 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,680 although the team was only two and seven in the Pac twelve. He 413 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,440 only threw seven interceptions. But he's not much of a runner, you know. 414 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,960 I just keep coming back to the fact that you're own three against Michigan 415 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:25,440 and starting quarterbacks who do not run the football. And you know, there 416 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,640 are a number of things wrong right now with Ohio State football, even at 417 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,079 eleven and one. Got to fix the offensive line, got to fix the 418 00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:38,400 defensive line, could use some impact players at linebacker. You know a lot 419 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,920 of different things that are that are happening with this program. But you know, 420 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,279 you need better quarterback play. And I think that that's kind of what's 421 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:53,160 led us to this point today. Yeah, and I don't know that the 422 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,359 thing necessarily would have gone to the portal if Kyle McCord had stayed, but 423 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:04,519 him leaving now you're in a position where you want to explore your options more 424 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:08,599 fully, and from my understanding, they are exploring those options. But it's 425 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,279 not a one way street. It's a it's a two way dance. And 426 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:15,799 then you're constantly being somebody's constantly cutting in, asking to dance with your date, 427 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:22,119 that sort of thing, and bringing in a fatter wallet, and so 428 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,200 it's not just a a you know, two way communication. There's there's a 429 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,920 ton of moving parts in this. As I was telling somebody earlier in the 430 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,160 day, it's all of the sand is constantly shifting and you're just trying to 431 00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:37,680 stay above it. And at some point the sands going to stop, the 432 00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:42,000 musical chairs are going to stop, and either you have a quarterback in the 433 00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:45,839 portal or you're going to go with the guys that you've gotten, you know, 434 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:50,640 through recruiting, and we've talked before. They're very high on Lincoln Keynoles. 435 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,960 They think he's the future. That future may be coming sooner than maybe 436 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,359 they anticipated. And the move I think they make if they go and get 437 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,119 a quarterback out of the portal, I assume it would just be a one 438 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,000 year guy, one year rental, and I would assume that that would mean 439 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,279 you're doing that knowing that Devin Brown's going to hit the portal like it's going 440 00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:17,279 to be. A reaction from Brown would be to leave if you're bringing in 441 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:23,559 somebody to start. So there's things like that too way and you're not concerned 442 00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:28,160 about losing somebody necessarily. You just want to have the best team that you 443 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,119 can. You want to be able to win all of the games that you 444 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,559 should and so maybe that you shouldn't and you got to do it's best for 445 00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:39,400 the program. And if they can get in agreement, and again this is 446 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,599 going to be as Matt Ruhl talked about Nebraska and coach talked a week or 447 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,559 two ago, good quarterbacks are going to cost you about a million, million 448 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:50,759 and a half. High State had a good quarterback. They need a better 449 00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:53,279 quarterback. So do the math on that one. You're talking two million, 450 00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:58,839 two and a half million dollars for one of these top line quarterbacks. And 451 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720 is that it's not our money? So it's not my money, it's not 452 00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:06,279 your money, it's not the fans money. Is that an investment that is 453 00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:09,480 wise doesn't matter? You know, if it brings in another quarterback, who 454 00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:14,800 cares. It's just play money. Anyway basically, So I do think obviously 455 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:20,719 they're looking at the portal. I would love to see what happens with Lincoln 456 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,719 Keenolds starting next year, just to see, you know, I think it 457 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,360 would give some life to the program. But once you start losing, then 458 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,360 all of that life goes away. So I know, the the loss, 459 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,119 the the calm accord going to the portal. I don't know if I saw 460 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:42,239 a single dry eye on Twitter in terms of there're nobody there's nobody necessarily upset, 461 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,679 so there's a lot of celebrating on Twitter, and Twitter is not necessarily 462 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:52,440 the best representative of the way things are going, but it does just the 463 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,760 mystery. I think it does rejuvenate some things. But the cotton Bowl, 464 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,679 my understanding is Devin Brown's going to stick through the cotton bowl and then see 465 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,960 what happens after that. So you've got that. But I think that either 466 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,280 way, honestly, if they're probably going to go to the portal in terms 467 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,599 of either they don't get a starter and they have three guys and they need 468 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,599 to bring in a fourth. In terms of Brian Day likes to have four 469 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:21,559 guys, so you bring in somebody another Tristan Jebia type because you can't bring 470 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:23,320 in a start if you miss on one of the top guys. You can't 471 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,719 bring in one of the mid tier guys to be a starter because you're not 472 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:34,039 proving anything. And also you're you might send one of your your you might 473 00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:37,800 send Devin Brown into the portal because of that. So you need to bring 474 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,679 in somebody to just be that fourth guy if you don't get that number one. 475 00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:46,599 I think there's a pretty large portion of the fan base that feels secure 476 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:53,920 in bringing in a guy that has started games and proven something. And most 477 00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:58,960 fans are locked in on their teams, so they don't know that. Beside 478 00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:05,119 looking at a stat sheet or whatever they hear about kJ Jefferson, cam Ward, 479 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,360 you can fill in the blank with about five so guys that would be 480 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:15,480 under consideration, Dylan Gabriel, They don't. That seems like, Okay, 481 00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:19,840 well, that guy started over there, so he's proven something. I'd rather 482 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,639 have a proven commodity than be starting over with some first time starting quarterback. 483 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,400 But obviously, if a player never gets an opportunity to start for the first 484 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,320 time, then they this is what they will be doing from year to year. 485 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,480 But then also there's the experience, most recently with Kyle mccor to say, 486 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,239 well, first time starting quarterback, see what we got. However, 487 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,599 that's evaluated, which with most of the fan base means not good enough. 488 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,559 Appreciate you being here at the Big Ten Paradigm. Looking forward to forty one 489 00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:55,400 postseason games, including nine at Big Ten teams in BAWL action as we preview 490 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,400 those games coming up next week right here on Big Ten Paradigm