WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.480 Mac, can you think back to the last time that, as you were 2 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:10.119 doing something you said to yourself, I've made a huge mistake. Oh that's 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:14.919 a great question, because I it. I think through a lot of stuff 4 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:17.920 before I go and actually do something. I'm pretty well thought out, not 5 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:23.239 very spontaneous these days. So off the top of my head, no, 6 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:28.600 nothing, nothing comes up. I'm so calculated though, Mac. It's more 7 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:33.000 laziness than anything. So yesterday I was going to take my son to a 8 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:37.119 movie. I got a pass for Garfield, a little screening, gonna impress 9 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:39.520 him, be like, hey, I want to check out Garfield Brag. 10 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:42.960 And ahead of time had to have some lunch. I said, do you 11 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:46.439 want to have some Dave's Hot Chicken? He keeps seeing billboards for Dave's Hot 12 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:49.520 Chicken. He was like, oh my god, Dave's Hot Chicken. So 13 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:53.520 we went and as we were ordering, him like just give him the dullest 14 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:56.600 flavor, and just give me whatever the hottest flavor is. And they're like 15 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:59.960 reaper, like yeah, whatever it is. And they gave me a sh 16 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.479 sheet of paper to sign and I'm like, oh, that's kind of cute. 17 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:06.959 So I signed the paper. We sit down, I take a couple 18 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:10.439 of bites of this chicken and immediately know that it is going to come out 19 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:15.200 of me. I have never been the adventurous type when it comes to hot 20 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.719 food. Goo. I hit my limit around Buffalo mild, that type of 21 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:23.079 stuff, because then I start sweating. Anyways, I turn red. Anyways, 22 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.799 I can't do that's my upper limit. I can't handle the spice level. 23 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:29.599 So I don't know why if you're trying to have a nice Sunday with 24 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.920 your son, why you would torture it just before a movie? Mind you 25 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:37.560 right? And I'm pretty sure that I've had this specific sandwich in the past. 26 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:40.680 I think I just ate it slower, like I took my time when 27 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:42.879 I was eating it, but the way I kind of scarf this down. 28 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:48.519 As we were then walking to the theater, I'm sweating. My mouth is 29 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:52.200 all red from the heat, and I'm like, oh, no, I've 30 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:57.280 made a huge mistake. And then I brought my son into the bathroom stall 31 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:02.200 with me and he had to sit there horror as I was throwing up Jesus 32 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:08.280 CHRISTO. That's why he didn't like the movie. Oh he's taking about the 33 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:12.840 movie because he was thinking about his dad losing his soul in the toilet for 34 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:15.280 the whole thirty minutes you were there. No, no, So I will 35 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:17.439 say this, and I think we're allowed to share spoilers, not spoilers, 36 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:23.080 but like a review of this movie. Garfield is a mashed potato sandwich. 37 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.719 It stinks good. I texted you this a little bit earlier. I think 38 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:30.319 I've seen nineteen movies on the year now, maybe eighteen, and almost half 39 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:34.520 of them have been dog shit. Yeah, different levels of dog shit, 40 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.800 some diarrhea, some solid, but still dog shit. And as much as 41 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:43.960 I have liked Dune, this has been a pretty bad year for movies so 42 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:47.360 far. Yeah. And I was actually going through the schedule of movies coming 43 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:51.319 up earlier because I'm I don't want to brag, but I you know, 44 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:53.800 tease movies at work. You know what's coming out this weekend. And I 45 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:57.360 was writing them mount and I'm like, uh, oh, we're hitting a 46 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:01.000 real bad patch and this last good patch wasn't that right? Yeah, it's 47 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:06.360 it's gonna be by the end of the year. We might have trouble rounding 48 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:09.680 out a good four for for the Goody Vault. And then speaking uh once 49 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:15.080 again of being at that movie on Sunday. The most excited my son, 50 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.199 my three year old son, was with the Garfield movie was when I said, 51 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:23.280 do you want to leave about an hour in? It's yes, yes, 52 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:39.599 I do one good, three yeah, Jos three. King of Queen 53 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:53.240 MARYL. Street entered time go and I am Mecai Pheiffer. Want you take 54 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:57.360 your white ass back? Cross eight miles paying the pie piper? All the 55 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.960 pain inside amplified by the fact that I can't get bye with my nine to 56 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:10.280 today we are discussing eight mile eight mile was I believe and I'm not even 57 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:15.520 joking, even though I'm giggling while I'm saying it like a seminal movie in 58 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:19.399 the childhoods of Goo and I. It came out in two thousand and two, 59 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:24.680 the beginning of our eighth grade year. So Goo and I are thirteen 60 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:28.839 years old. A piece soon to be fourteen also point out that we are 61 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:32.839 white males, white males. Yeah, so eminem, and there's no shame 62 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:38.759 in this eminem. Certainly, whatever level of fans we were of rap prior 63 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:43.839 to eminem, eminem double triple quadrupled that it just made it more accessible. 64 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.360 That's just simply a fact. And also at thirteen, fourteen years old. 65 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:54.199 You were so suggestible, like you could so easily fall into trend, just 66 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:57.759 so easily do this, so easily do that. It was just this movie 67 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:00.519 hits at the absolute perfect time for good. And I think this might be 68 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:04.480 the first movie and maybe the only movie that I stepped out of it being 69 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:13.680 like I think I should do that. It's one of those things where you 70 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.759 know, there's just there's that all time online clip of I just want to 71 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:20.120 do a hood rat ship with my friends. Yeah, And that's that's the 72 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:25.040 feeling you get leaving this movie. Like I thought to myself, imagine a 73 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:31.560 life where around every turn there's a rap battle. Once a week, you're 74 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:34.279 going to defend your honor. No, And like all I knew in my 75 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:40.360 head was that as long as it rhymes, that's good. That's a start. 76 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:43.160 That's a start, as long as it rhymes. Now, Mac, 77 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:46.519 let me ask you, how did you see this movie at first? So 78 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:51.480 I, if I recall correctly, it was a group of like five or 79 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:58.519 six of us, and we had to have someone's older sisters for us at 80 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:00.920 Fresh Pond Movie Theater in Cage and that's how we got in. And the 81 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:02.839 sister didn't even come in with us. She had a cup with us to 82 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:06.439 buy the tickets so that we could get in. I went with my father 83 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:14.199 and my younger sister corn Yep. We both loved Eminem. My dad liked 84 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:16.920 Eminem. I think my dad liked the story of the movie. It's a 85 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:23.000 pretty good story. Obviously, there is a sex scene that was extremely awkward, 86 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:27.560 two of them. Yeah, so uh yeah, it was quite something. 87 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:29.800 Yeah, but it was a movie that we had to see. If 88 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:31.120 I didn't see it, I don't know what would have happened. Yeah, 89 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:36.360 And speaking to that and our age, our demographic, should I say I 90 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:41.560 think at least two thirds, if not three fourths, of our eighth grade 91 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:46.480 yearbook, our middle school yearbook, our class listed their favorite movie males and 92 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.720 females as Lose Yourself or as an eight mile, and favorite song as lose 93 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:53.920 Yourself. I actually had my song as eight mile I Wanted to be Different. 94 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.519 That's a good song too, though. Yeah. It just absolutely dominated 95 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:01.360 that school year for us, and we liked eminem anyways, but if you 96 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.079 if you saw that movie already loving Eminem, it just took it to the 97 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:10.920 nth degree. And really it's just like the Eddie Murphy joke from Raw where 98 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:14.720 he said as soon as Italian saw Rocky, they suddenly thought that they could 99 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.639 fight as soon as I saw him, Like I can fucking freestyle, I 100 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:21.319 can rap battle people. I was trying to remember. I don't think my 101 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:26.120 Space was quite out yet. This might have been right before my Space, 102 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:31.120 but it's in that era of Internet and uh in what we would be influenced 103 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:39.399 by. I was very much what some folks might call a poser. Then 104 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:46.480 there's there's a worse word for it, but I there There is certainly records 105 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.000 of me wearing like a bandana under a sideways cap, like I was like 106 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:53.480 living that life. I did that for at least one summer. Yeah. 107 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.879 Yeah, I thought I was the coolest cat out there. So I call 108 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.759 it my White Chocolate era. That's that's really defined that. That was my 109 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.439 rename. I had dog tags made on the eighth grade DC field trip that 110 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.319 said white Chocolate, although I misspelled chocolate. I did two a's instead of 111 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.959 two o's. They're so dumb. That's really great for me. So that's 112 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:15.560 really where where we're at really. And also Mac, I took a cue 113 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:18.439 from this movie and I said to myself if and when I get into a 114 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:24.480 rap battle, I'm gonna attack myself first, because if I attack myself first, 115 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.759 what's the other person gonna do? Right? Right? I honestly think 116 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:33.039 there's a generation of people molded by that final rap battle or like, I 117 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.360 gotta get out ahead of this. I gotta be stef I gotta be self 118 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.279 detrimental here. And we need to point out right now before we say anything 119 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:46.000 else, the final twenty five minutes to thirty minutes of this movie is that 120 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.159 when the rap battle at the shelter starts up again. Yeah, A plus 121 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.039 cinema, dude. I would argue ninety percent of this movie is a plus 122 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.519 cinema. It's I don't know going back and watch some of this. I 123 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:01.679 knew every scene that was coming up. Like I even said to myself ahead 124 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:03.720 of time, like do I have to rewatch this movie? I know this 125 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:07.320 thing point for point. I had such a good time. Really, I 126 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.320 guess my only issue with it is that while I knew all the point to 127 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:16.600 points, I think every scene went just a smidge too long. I don't 128 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:18.639 know. I don't know about that. It's just about a bunch of young 129 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:22.080 lings fucking wreaking havoc in the City of Details. Also, could you imagine 130 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:28.159 this? Could you imagine if when did we start the podcast nine years ago? 131 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:31.039 Sixteen? Okay, so what if I said to you, Mac, 132 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.279 I want to start this podcast. It's me this great sports podcast. We're 133 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:37.399 going to reach all these people, And as soon as my cousin turned on 134 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.840 the microphone, I just started throwing up everywhere. What kind of a start 135 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:46.159 to this career would we have? That's totally different though it is more is 136 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:50.799 it? It would be more akin to the first time we did something in 137 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:52.840 front of a live audience and you just started throwing up everything. No, 138 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.639 it's like, of Mac, Mac, we're gonna talk about the Mets pitching 139 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.159 versus the Cubs offense. That's harms And then they're like, dude, your 140 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:11.360 response, Oh, but you want to be a rapper? Okay, all 141 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:15.279 right? November eight, two thousand and two, that's the setting for eight 142 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:20.480 Mile. It hits theaters right before the Christmas season, A rated R drama 143 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:24.679 and music. I guess they just could call things music now. So I 144 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.639 don't know if it is music because it's like it's perfect. There's music weave 145 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:33.200 throughout and there's music overall. No, but the music is like it isn't 146 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.080 naturally flowing throughout, Like they take a battles no, but they take a 147 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:39.440 step off to the side to do it. And there's also a great like 148 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.120 ninety four ninety five soundtrack in here with some really good hip hop songs. 149 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:48.240 I've always thought of you as being a shook one great and they use it 150 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.399 again at the end for the rap battle beats. Yeah. Runtime of one 151 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:54.559 hundred and ten minutes, so it's a pretty crisp hour and fifty minutes. 152 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:56.480 There's not much waste of time in here. I don't know how crisp it 153 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:01.200 is. I'm not gonna live fuck you, fuck you, dickhead. Like 154 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:03.960 I think everything at the Shelter is amazing. I think the sex scenes are 155 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:09.879 great, but some of it is is a little repeat y. No. 156 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:13.559 I like the it's it's it's a it's essentially a day in the life but 157 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.159 a week, a week in the life of Jimmy Smith Junior, right, 158 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.159 but within like hours of things happening of like, oh I heard you choked, 159 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.679 that just happened. How do you hear about that? Well, it's 160 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:30.960 yeah, I mean word of mouth, you know everyone's playing telephone. Gude, 161 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.480 riddle me this. This is the most dumbfounding thing, and I didn't 162 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:37.480 know this. This might be the first time I ever went on Roddy T's 163 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:43.600 for eight Mile seventy five percent from the critics, which honestly is higher than 164 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.080 I thought it was gonna be. Yeah, fifty four percent from the audience. 165 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:50.840 How does eight mile have fifty four percent from the audience? Okay, 166 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:52.919 so I don't even care about that. I want to give the critics credit 167 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.720 here because I think what they realize is that while yes, he's kind of 168 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:03.960 playing himself, Eminem does a damn good job, a great job and also 169 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.720 seventy seven on metacritics. So yeah, the critics got this, and it's 170 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:13.759 a compelling story. It's a pretty well made movie for a guy basically telling 171 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:16.679 his life story on a So with that, I would like to now take 172 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:24.200 a kickflip off of my own point right there and ask why not just make 173 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:26.919 a bio pic? Oh, because I think you want some creative freedom to 174 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:31.000 make the story more compelling. That's an easy one, but yeah. But 175 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.879 all they really change, though, is that his daughter is now his sister. 176 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:39.720 They asked him to just have his normal colored hair to you know, 177 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:46.159 differentiate from his you know, blonde. So like, is it's really similar? 178 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.799 Why not just stick with what it is? I don't know if it's 179 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.559 really similar. It's it's the only main similarities is that he's a poor white 180 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:56.639 rapper coming up in a predominantly black industry. He lives in a trailer park. 181 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:01.960 His girlfriend is either pregnant or faking Pregnantory lied about it. I don't 182 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:05.039 know. There's a lot going on there with Pansacola. And then also, 183 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.200 uh, his mom, Greg won't go down on her. U. Kim 184 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.720 Basinger, is that how you pronounce it? Basing Yeah, more like Bassinger? 185 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.679 Right? I thought she's great as white trash. I love I love 186 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.440 Kim bas That's a butt double, right, we're assuming definitely Kim Basinger, 187 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.399 that's a butt, that's a fun a titty, or that's a butt double. 188 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:28.039 I'm saying butt double money on button double. Disagree again fifty four percent 189 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.799 from the audience. I don't know where that came from. And like, 190 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.159 not for nothing if you're looking like in the in the grand scope of like 191 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:41.279 musical artists that made a movie or acted in a pretty big budget movie that 192 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:46.080 weren't previously actors actresses M and M's on the shortlist for best job, like 193 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:50.080 Whitney Houston's up there too, Like ice Cube, Well, Boys in the 194 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.000 Hood, he's really good. Yeah, ice Cubes up there, there's three, 195 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.279 but there's there's not many where Like the fifty set movie is not very 196 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:00.200 good and he's not very good in it, but okay, I think think 197 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:05.840 the best comparison to this would be Private Parts with Howard Stern, where he 198 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:09.720 is first. Howard Stern's actually pretty good in that movie. He's playing himself, 199 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.399 but it's a you know, a heightened version of himself. And just 200 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:16.840 like Eminem at the end of this movie, Howard Stern at the end of 201 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:20.600 his movie said that was good, but I'm never doing this again. They 202 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.679 both said the exact same thing. Yeah, Curtis Jackson fifty sent went the 203 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.519 opposite way, but he also did a faithful adaptation of his life that was 204 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:31.720 more a biopic than anything else. Whereas this is loosely based on this is 205 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:37.120 like I don't know how to describe it. Like this is like when people 206 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.120 thought that Departed was about Whitey Bulger, but it was actually an adaptation of 207 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:45.679 a completely different story, just set in Boston. That's sort of what this 208 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.519 is to Eminem's life. This would be like if we did a movie about 209 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:54.799 this podcast, then we called it Mark and Drew Goo. Yes. Eight 210 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.320 Mile is written by Scott Silver, who has a pretty interesting resume. He's 211 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.879 only written like seven or eight movies over thirty years, but it's this, 212 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.759 The Fighter, The Finest Hours and Joker are four of them. That's a 213 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:11.200 pretty impressive resume for a man that's only written six, seven or eight things 214 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:15.399 upcoming. He's doing Joker Fond at the end of this year, and he's 215 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.399 doing the untitled hal Coogan biopics, so he's got a couple of decent things 216 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:22.639 on the horizon there. Writing pretty good in this now, I do think 217 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:28.679 I'm sure Eminem had a He doesn't get a writing credit, but I'm sure 218 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:31.919 he helped out with like the dialogue amongst the frets. Well, I also 219 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.559 think that they had to lean into how Eminem spoke as well. Yeah, 220 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.840 no doubt, and also like the second half of the movie, like just 221 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:46.519 right yelling next to all of his lines. A good This is directed by 222 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:50.759 Curtis Hansen. He did the hand that Rocks the Cradle also won Best Adapted 223 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:56.600 Screenplay, and he directed La confidentially with Kim Beasinger. Yep, damn right. 224 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:00.159 This was his biggest hit at the box office, though eight Mile made 225 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.080 one hundred and sixteen million domestically two hundred and forty two million worldwide, like 226 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.840 by far his most successful movie. So for a guy that's directed, I 227 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:14.200 think he's got twenty plus directing credits, eight Mile is his single most successful 228 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:17.399 one. Also, by the way, we did way too much research on 229 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:19.639 this movie, maybe the most research that we've ever done on any movie. 230 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:25.360 And one of the directors who was in the mix to direct this film was 231 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.080 Quentin Tarantino. Could you imagine that sex scene, both those sex scenes, 232 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.759 but the focus on the feet. I as much as I like Quentin Tarantino, 233 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:36.000 this movie would be worse. If Quentin Taranty, it would be a 234 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:41.320 lot weirder, weirder and worse. It would not have because this is like 235 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:45.120 crisp in pretty quick. Tarantino's eight Mile would have been two and a half 236 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.519 hours and there would have been some pretty weird shit in there. He was 237 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.639 working on kill Bill at the time. Yes, yes, there you go. 238 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:56.960 Synopsis follows a young rapper in the Detroit area, struggling with every aspect 239 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:00.639 of his life. He wants to make it big, but his friends and 240 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:04.079 foes make this odyssey of rap harder than it may seem. Pretty good, 241 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:07.880 yes, And you know what I love about it is that the entire movie 242 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.160 eminem is like, if I just win this rap battle at the shelter, 243 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.759 my life is all set. And then at the end of the movie he 244 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:19.920 does win it and nothing changes about his life. No, it's the vote 245 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:23.000 of confidence he needed. It's the boost for you. But also, but 246 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:27.880 also is there cash that you win? Do you win cash? You probably 247 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:32.720 get a little bit of a cash prize, I'm guessing because his friend Glasses 248 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:36.039 there was like, you can you can live off of this now He's like, 249 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:37.039 you, what are you doing? Go back to work? You just 250 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:41.000 won this rap battle. No, I think I think you probably get a 251 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:44.960 little bit of cake. Sure, But it's more so the confidence booster that 252 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.160 he needed to go and record his demo. You know he's got he's got 253 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:51.160 like a proof of concept now. And that's really what this movie is about, 254 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:56.720 because it just imagine living in Detroit where you have your winnings from the 255 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.759 Uh from the Rap Battles, and then your mother just on bingo, like 256 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:04.599 you can go to the Burlington Code Factory and living. I think that's why 257 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:07.720 I like this movie so much, though, is it just takes place over 258 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.519 a week. They don't give us the first twenty years of Eminem's life, 259 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.920 you know, it's just like you sort of can read into how he grew 260 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:18.440 up. They place you right in, drop you into a week in the 261 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.680 life. They give you a couple of compelling storylines, and you dip out 262 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:26.440 with a really satisfying ending. Clarence also just won three straight of these I 263 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.519 think, like three to five straight up Clarence. Yet that's his name. 264 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:34.759 His name is Clarence. He just and I don't think it's changed Clarence's life 265 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:37.279 at all. No, for Clarence, it's more of a power thing. 266 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:41.960 I think that a little bit of a power struggle there in Detroit Rock City. 267 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:45.720 You know. Clarence goes, He's like, why didn't you guys just 268 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:52.680 get a fucking divorce? Go? Yeah. This movie stars Eminem as Jimmy 269 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:57.000 Smith Junior aka Bunny Rabbit b Rabbit thumbs up. I For whatever reason, 270 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:02.079 I just look the rabbit. Nick name just works. I liked the little 271 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:03.680 story they give of when he was a little kid, he had big, 272 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.240 big teeth, like a bunny rabbit and that's how he got the name. 273 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.920 And apparently that was based off of the real life fact that his relatives called 274 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:14.720 him Mickey when he was younger, because apparently he looked a little bit like 275 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:18.079 Mickey Mouse. Can I point out how stupid that is? Well, what 276 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:19.920 are you gonna do? Mickey Mouse has a beautiful smile, he doesn't have 277 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:23.720 buck teeth. I was thinking more maybe big ears for Mickey Mouse. I 278 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:26.920 wasn't thinking smile wise. Oh, I that it was a sant thing with 279 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:29.200 like the buck teeth, or maybe it could have been a teeth thing. 280 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:30.839 I was thinking ears wise. If he had big ears, I would have 281 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:36.240 called him Dewey, like from Melcolm in the Middle. A real cool fun 282 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:40.279 fact about this movie, and for a guy that had never acted before, 283 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:44.279 the fact that he's in every single scene in this movie is really impressive. 284 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:47.839 Once again, that's what reminds me about him and Howard Stern. Howard Stern 285 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:51.079 is in every scene of his movie. Fair enough, That is fair enough. 286 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:53.440 I feel like Howard Stern would have had more creative control than eminem though, 287 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:56.640 but that's I feel like they both had the same amount of control in 288 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:00.279 their movie. And then that's so like h on the Howard Stern not to 289 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:02.960 go into like a different direction, but like actors have asked him, why 290 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:06.400 didn't you do more movies after this one? He is like, that was 291 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:08.480 too hard. I didn't want to do that anymore. Well, because most 292 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:12.039 actors aren't in every scene in a movie. That's that's why it's so hard. 293 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:18.119 So instead of two but also these two guys also aren't trained actors too, 294 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.200 So it's like like I want to go and be like a broadcaster again. 295 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:25.400 I want to go rap again. Because even while so when he wasn't 296 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:29.240 acting in this movie, he was writing music, he was writing the soundtrack. 297 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:32.559 Yeah, and beyond that, if you're not a classically trained actor, 298 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:34.519 Let's say you have a scene coming up the next day where you get to 299 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:37.799 memorize twenty lines. If you don't have a good process for that, that 300 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:41.839 might take you five hours instead of like an hour like a regular actor. 301 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:44.920 Yeah, because if you look at some of these scenes, Makai Pfeiffer had 302 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:49.000 the lines written on his forehead for him. Also in this movie, Goo 303 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:55.200 Kim Bezinger is his mom, Stephanie Mackay Pfiffer's future aka David Porter as he 304 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:59.400 gets called at one point. This character was based on Eminem's friend Proof Rip 305 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:03.240 Proof I think died in two thousand and six. Brittany Murphy is Alex, 306 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:08.759 who brings like the perfect skanky sex appeal to this role. She's great at 307 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:14.759 just being that's it's a perfect take on it, and go here's a little 308 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:18.480 fun fact that I didn't know until today. Yeah, she admitted on an 309 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:22.000 interview in Leedhiman, I don't know twenty years ago that they actually got romantically 310 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:25.799 involved during the filming of this movie. And I would say you can one 311 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:27.440 hundred ccent feel that in their sex scene. Yeah, she kind of has 312 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:30.920 like that uh lew Anne Platter voice going on in this too. Of course, 313 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:34.759 she voices Lewayne and King of the Hill like the deeper voice. Evan 314 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:38.480 Jones is cheddar Bob. A couple other people that read for this role Goo 315 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:42.799 Seth Rogan and Jason Siegel. Imagine if they casted both of those guys instead 316 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:47.960 and they just flipped them every scene. Siegle's too tall Seth Rogan would have 317 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:51.359 been interesting there. What if they casted both of them and they just had 318 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:55.880 they switched them every scene. Omar Benson Miller has Soul George, she's the 319 00:21:55.880 --> 00:22:00.400 big dude. D'Angel Wilson as dj is, he's the preachy one gooster actually 320 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:03.559 brothers, although they don't I don't think say that during the movie. Uh, 321 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:07.519 Eugene Bird is wink son of a bitch, real good son of a 322 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:11.880 bitch, swindling everyone. Whether you grew up in the inner city or you 323 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:15.640 know, you grew up rich, there's always a wink type that you grew 324 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.680 up with that you don't really like. But every once in a while you're 325 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:22.240 like, all right, I'll try it, you know you old man. 326 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:26.240 I parked Ray Allen's car the other day. Yeah, did you? Yeah? 327 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:30.400 Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah. Taron Manning as Janine. She's only 328 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.519 in like three scenes, she's pretty good in them. Interesting to note here. 329 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:37.119 She's also in Britney Spears' movie from two thousand and two called Crossroads. 330 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:41.799 You also might know her as Pensacola from Orange is the New Black. Yes, 331 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.720 indeed, Chloe Greenfield as Lily, who did a couple of TV things 332 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.599 after this, but I don't think she acts anymore. That is, of 333 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.559 course Eminem's sister in this movie, who's she's probably like eight in this. 334 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:59.039 Michael Shannon is Greg Buell, who again is only in like two scenes, 335 00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:02.279 but he's fucking great rate in the two scenes he's in. And I found 336 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:07.640 this earlier that the original choice to play Greg Gary Sonise, who would have 337 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.920 been great in that role too, because he's always great. He just would 338 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:14.400 have he would have looked older than Michael Shannon. Also, every of the 339 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:19.200 line would have been won't someone think of the troops? Goode? Anthony Mackie 340 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:25.200 is popa Doc aka Clearance. Uh. This is his first real role. 341 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:29.880 He had an uncredited TV appearance before this. This is his first fucking role 342 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.200 ever, and it's eight Mile, playing essentially the villain of eight Mile. 343 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:38.720 That's fucking epic. Gary Sinise also loves the moon. It's like a split. 344 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:44.400 Those are his two young favorite things. Uh. Some cameos here or 345 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:48.160 like the final the Rappers. Here we have Strike Sanders as lickety Split. 346 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:53.279 This is the fella who's who has corn rows and the headband not jacked. 347 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:56.720 Also, uh, he got jobbed during his rap at the end. We'll 348 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.960 talk about that at the end, though I don't know if I agree. 349 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:03.119 But Future kind of swayed the audience. But let's it's close to no Eminem 350 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:08.279 swayed the audience with his pale Future. Also Future gave him a little bit 351 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:12.519 of a home field advantage. I get that. But let me also ask 352 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:17.119 you, out of everyone here, out of all the rappers, lickety split 353 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:18.880 might be the worst name, right. I don't mind lickty Split. I 354 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:22.799 don't like lickety split. U we have nasehan Ox Breed, Love is Lotto. 355 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.400 This is the fellow with the cornraill Rose but jacked in the wife beater. 356 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.720 He's the second battle with Snoop Dogg got a boob job. Now you're 357 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:33.799 you've already kind of said this is that your rapping name would have been white 358 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.200 Chocolate. Yeah, for sure. Like I've had several nicknames. I think 359 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:41.240 I could do Jmac too. And now there's a famous porn star with that 360 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:44.720 who who stole my thunder? What do you think? Do you think big 361 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:49.400 rag Goo or Rooster is better? Rooster is way better better? Yeah, 362 00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:53.079 Shamboo could have worked too. Oh I was Shamou at the time. Yeah, 363 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.680 Shamou would have worked. I think Rooster is the best of the b 364 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.000 I think Roos is the best. To get on Twitter and vote about goose 365 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.079 rap name, guys, tell us right now, what do you think my 366 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.000 best rap name was? Come on M's boy Proof who futures based off of 367 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.599 plays little Tick. That's the guy at the very beginning of the movie who 368 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:17.319 Eminem chokes against. Obi Trice cameos as one of the gimmicks. But yes, 369 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:21.839 yeh exhibit is the lunk struck rapper that gets put down by Eminem. 370 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:26.000 Great scene. I would send it out of all of the like random around 371 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:30.680 the corner rap battles, that's my favorite one, just for the line of 372 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.920 look at those boots, they're growing roots. By the way, if you 373 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:40.079 are maybe like twelve or fifteen years older than us, so maybe you were 374 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:44.759 like twenty five when this movie came out, and maybe Eminem missed you, 375 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:48.000 I don't know. I still recommend this movie. I still think it's like 376 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.519 a pretty good drama with good pacing. I think it's a good movie outside 377 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:56.960 of the Eminem's Let me ask you a question though, because the movie seems 378 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:02.559 to be lost on My wife is this a WPS white people shit. Yeah. 379 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:04.240 I don't know if it is because M and m's not white people shit, 380 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:10.960 because I mean it also might even be more pigeonholed into being WBS white 381 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:15.000 boy shit. Yeah, but we went so I guess it'll be more white 382 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.559 people because half the girls who went to school with also loved this. Maybe 383 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:19.920 you had to see it in two thousand and two to like it as much 384 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:22.519 as we do. I think it's a legit good movie. No, I 385 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.960 like it. I like it a lot. Yeah, that's a good that's 386 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.319 an interesting thing. I'm honestly surprised that Batty doesn't like it. Yeah. 387 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.000 I was watching it last night. She's like, what are you watching? 388 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:34.039 It's terrible? And I'm like, first off, how haven't you seen this? 389 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:41.400 You closed ticket easier? Take don't tell? I said that, can 390 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.079 you cut this from the podcast? Goo? The music in this movie, 391 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.480 like I alluded to before, is spot on. I love how at the 392 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.839 beginning, the Jimmy related stuff they show him right in a little bit. 393 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.000 How it's like incomplete Rhyde. You know that that scrap piece of paper was 394 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.319 sold for ten thousand dollars? Yeah, I got it later. You fuck 395 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.359 well I didn't first time. Your notes are fucking TLDR the way, too 396 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.680 many notes. Just fucking know that I covered everything? How about that? 397 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.839 All right? Fine? But yes on the bus when you see him scribbling 398 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.440 there at the beginning was the actual paper that he wrote Lose Yourself to that 399 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.839 ended up selling for ten thousand dollars on eBay in like two thousand and six 400 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.599 or something like that. Yeah. The soundtrack, outside of the M and 401 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.920 M stuff is awesome. It takes you back to like ninety four ninety five. 402 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.640 Some of the best songs from that era, great hip hop music, 403 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.839 especially when they go into the clubs. All of the original songs on the 404 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:37.000 soundtrack too, are great. So you have I think three or four eminem 405 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.599 songs. You have Wangster, but Wangsta is a or eer Wangster. Well, 406 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:48.119 no, no, it's something something something, it's fifty cents. Yeah, 407 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.839 it's the other one. It's the first one. Okay. Do you 408 00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:52.440 not know the song? No, I'm hearing it in my head. I 409 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.759 thought they were the same song. No, it's the first song that made 410 00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:59.440 him famous. Like this is where fifty cent broke with this song. Sing 411 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:07.920 it again. You say you were pump. That's not the same song no, 412 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.160 and I haven't heard that song in a long time. I'm making up 413 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.680 the words right now. Yeah, okay. And also a good exhibit song 414 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.039 on there. There's a good jay Z song on there. Score one for 415 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:19.640 Gou. Yeah. Ifamous League go on set, they needed a couple of 416 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:25.240 people for the rap battles during the movie. They held open auditions to pick 417 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:27.480 three or four extras to end up being in the rap battles, which I 418 00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:32.720 just thought was really cool. You can see some of that on the DVD 419 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.839 some of the extra features they show some of those rap battles. Dude, 420 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:40.480 Lose Yourself won the Oscar for Best Original Song, first rap song to ever 421 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:42.920 win, and that actually opened up There's been a couple a few rap songs 422 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:48.160 since. I think that really legitimateized legitimized rap, at least in the eyes 423 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.559 of the academy, which is fucking weird. And also notoriously, Eminem didn't 424 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.599 show up because he didn't think he had a chance of winning and ended up 425 00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.839 performing that song in twenty twenty at the Oscar. So that's a nice little 426 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.599 to admit there. And oddly enough, Gou, I think because his especially 427 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:10.480 his first album is a lot more rap and less hooks. Lose Yourself became 428 00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:14.279 his first legit number one hit overall, not on the rap charts, but 429 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:18.799 overall, so that's a fun fact there. The movie soundtrack went to number 430 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.079 one and was the fifth best selling album of two thousand and two despite only 431 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:26.519 having two months November and December, so that's pretty good. We talked about 432 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.759 the paper getting sold. This movie made fifty one million dollars on its opening 433 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:36.400 weekend, becoming number one at the box office, beating Goo's third favorite movie 434 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:38.319 of all time, The Santa Claus two. You think about that, well, 435 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:41.440 my first favorite is Santa Claus three, of course, yeah, right, 436 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.279 and then second would be the Santa Claus the first one. I love 437 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.960 the Santa Clauses. And my favorite TV show is the Santa Claus Show that's 438 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.599 on right now. Sure that's a thing, definitely I knew about. Also, 439 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.359 fifty one million the second highest opening for an R rated movie ever behind 440 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.920 Hannibal at that point anyways, and then it got beat out next the second 441 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.319 its second week gup by Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets, also a 442 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.680 movie I very much enjoyed when I was thirteen years old, Speaking of the 443 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.799 DVD, I found out this week that I no longer own this movie and 444 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.880 or I can't find it. This was one of the first DVDs I ever 445 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.839 owned, and I was a little sad to learn that I couldn't find it. 446 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.279 So I still do own this DVD. It's in my attic, but 447 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.640 I did not want to plug my PS five in, so I went ahead 448 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.799 and I just rented it for four bucks. Yeah, I did the same 449 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:34.759 thing from Prime. And it's also only streaming for free on Stars, which 450 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:38.559 is ridiculous. I don't know how that happened. That's it was on Netflix 451 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.920 at some point. I definitely remember that. By the way, DVD salesmax 452 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:48.559 seventy five million dollars, and I think one of the reasons why is because 453 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.039 it had Superman the music video on there. Yeah, if you never got 454 00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.680 a chance to watch the Superman music video, I don't do you think you 455 00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.680 can watch that online now? As someone uploaded that Mariah drive through twice. 456 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:04.960 It's like an X rated music video. It's it's pretty nudy, features porn 457 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:10.240 star Gina Lynn, and it's the cold keyhole stuff. I was a big 458 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:12.599 fan of it. It's a big old orgy scene too. Own the DVD 459 00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:17.799 there, Yeah, so for the extra rapt battles, but for the naked 460 00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.319 yet mainly I mean I mainly bought it for the two sex scenes and the 461 00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:26.759 music video. Also, I think what this movie deserves the most credit for 462 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:33.920 is spawning Malibu's Most Wanted and a new canned spaghetti sauce. There you go, 463 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.359 Mom's spaghetti. Yeah, and then he had that pop up a couple 464 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.599 of years ago where he actually served mops spaghetti, which is pretty good when 465 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.400 I get to the octagon or the decagne. But whatever number we got in 466 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.279 here, now, all right, mac fun factor and the real fun here 467 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:53.079 is the battles, specifically, I would say the shelter battles. I had 468 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.400 a blast rewatching this whole thing, and I think part of it is because 469 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.400 I remember back to like being a thirteen year old kid like this movie. 470 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.720 And there's movies that do this for certain time periods in your life, like 471 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.519 The Lion King brings me back to being like five years old and being traumatized. 472 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:13.119 This brings me back to being like thirteen years old talking to people on 473 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.599 aim like that sort of shit, So that that part is fun. Satisfactor 474 00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:22.240 really, there might be nothing more satisfying in movie history than the final bat 475 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:28.200 I'm not even exaggerating. This is one of the most satisfying endings to a 476 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:32.039 movie ever. It's so fucking satisfying, the like the breadcrumbs were there. 477 00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:36.160 When he's in the club and he's like and he hears a girl say, 478 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.720 oh, his real name is Claricce is like Clarence. No, that was 479 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:43.880 that was like when they were in like someone's basement or something in someone's basement. 480 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.359 Sorry, yeah, before that, and then right before the final rap 481 00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:50.319 battle, cheddar Bob's like, are you worried what he's gonna say about you? 482 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.400 How like wank fucked your bitch and all that, And then he starts 483 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.640 thinking, so credit to cheddar Bob, the cheddar Bob, the alley is 484 00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:01.960 always there, borometer. And I guess I had a little more bore than 485 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.559 obviously when I was younger, just going from point A to the end point 486 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:12.960 B, and I might have been a little I wasn't annoyed, but like 487 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:19.759 them playing up them winning this one rat battle as being life or death, 488 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.519 and then it ended up really meaning nothing. Really, you're missing the whole 489 00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:30.160 thing. You you're missing the message behind eight mile, like how it's just 490 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:36.359 how obsessed he is with it. Small victories, okay, small fine whatever, 491 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:42.119 not an ounce of born here for me. I unabashedly love this movie. 492 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:50.359 I recognize it's incredibly predictable and it's not overly complicated, but I think 493 00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.880 it's actually paced extremely well. And this might plant like a different one of 494 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.799 our things here, but like when they tried to get a little more complicated 495 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.839 with like you know, talking about like the Detroit landscape and like you know, 496 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:06.400 the guy who are the lady and all that stuff, and then they 497 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:14.000 burned down the house. Yeah in in Okay, all right, you know 498 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.119 Aquate down the house when you were thirteen, Aquator. It's better than Aqua 499 00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:22.239 Man Halloween. Compared to the first time I saw this, I think I 500 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:23.800 had it when out like a forty when I first saw it at thirteen. 501 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.960 So yeah, it's waned a little bit, I guess, a little bit, 502 00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:30.639 but it is. It's a legit movie. I get shotshak by every 503 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.800 time, so it really has it. Plemonade Mac. When life gives you 504 00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.559 plemons, you make plemonade. And I think I guess I'll go with Britney 505 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:46.559 Murphy here. But I also really liked how whenever anybody insulted future Mackay Pfeiffer's 506 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:52.199 face, like h Brittany Murphy provides like the perfect love interest slash foil in 507 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:57.599 this. But the plemonade for me is cheddar Bob, cheddar Bob all time, 508 00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.840 great character. Everyone's got a cheddar Bob and they're crew too. And 509 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:02.039 if you don't know who the cheddar Bob and your crew is, then you're 510 00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:06.400 the cheddar Bob. All right, Mac, we added X factor last week, 511 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.199 but that's kind of stupid. I'm gonna throw that one away. Uh, 512 00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:13.840 let's do something I like to call instead, uh, wrapped up real 513 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:19.400 nice? Whose story was wrapped up? The best? Not gonna answer this, 514 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:23.000 gud, I'm gonna say his mom she won Benghost. He's got thirty 515 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.119 two hundred bucks, which is like fifty five hundred in today's cash. There's 516 00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:29.679 a lot of cash for it, and in Detroit that's like one point three 517 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.679 million. Buy a house even today, you could buy two trailers and stack 518 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.280 them on top of each other. Oh quick, double wide. Oh you're 519 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:42.480 talking double decker couch style, Yeah, but trailer max credit Uni. You 520 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.599 know who you're give him credit to It's gotta be eminem again. He's in 521 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.920 every scene of the movie. He doesn't get a nomination for this. I 522 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.760 think if he was more well liked at the time, if there wasn't as 523 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:58.679 much controversy surrounding him lyrics in his personal life, I think he could he 524 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:04.000 would have goneered a nomination like the last nomination in a year. I don't 525 00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.920 know if I would go that far, but I would also say that I 526 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.800 think he's very good in this Yeah, phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal Pants ten City 527 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:16.199 Excite, bike Mania? What in this movie got you going? And for 528 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:22.440 me, it's just besides the sex scenes, the rapping at the shelter is 529 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.440 just like the beginning. Even the first guy that he battles, he's pretty 530 00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:32.320 good, but those last three rap battles is just it's Martin Scorsese's cinema. 531 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:39.159 I'll say, baseline, every rapping scene, every at the little like underlying 532 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:45.239 score that's in half the movie. But my biggest pants tent scene other than 533 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:50.480 the sex scenes, because that's pretty clear, is the chintikis when they're rapping 534 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.920 in the parking lot. Ten Freaking Girls, ten ten ten Freaky girls. 535 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:57.760 My favorite favorite scene in the whole movie. I'm surprised you don't do that 536 00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.320 more. I can't tell you how many times I've that in real life, 537 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.719 and maybe Morty will pick up on it. Almost no one picks up on 538 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.559 what I'm referencing, and I'm like, how how do you not know what 539 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.280 I'm referencing? For those of you tarty to the Mac and Goo party, 540 00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:15.159 we rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system, and I would say 541 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:20.760 truly one of ten movies growing up that like had a real influence on me. 542 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.079 Something that walking out, I'm like, I'm gonna be a rapper. 543 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:30.239 I'm gonna wrap battle everyone I see now. I'm gonna buy a dictionary. 544 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:36.480 I'm gonna buy a Theosaurus. No one's gonna stop me. I looked at 545 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.920 myself in the mirror, and I said, how can I take aim at 546 00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:44.039 myself? What are my enemies gonna look at me and say, I'm gonna 547 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.719 get that. I'm gonna get myself first. I'm gonna make sure of this. 548 00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:52.079 This movie is great. I'm not sure the last time that I saw 549 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:57.760 this full movie prior to watching it yesterday, but I have at least seen 550 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.400 these rap battles at least once a year since, Like, I have gone 551 00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:05.199 out of my way to watch the final half hour and it is just some 552 00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.960 like that's my favorite stuff, like that final the final rap battles, and 553 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.320 like I said, future kind of sways the audience a little bit. But 554 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.599 I fucking love it. I love it so much. The in between scenes 555 00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:21.679 might not have had the same effect as me on me as they as they 556 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:29.880 might have in the past. So I'm looking at like thirty thirty four. 557 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:36.000 Oh my god, I came into this. I came into this with thirty 558 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.159 three. But you have really You've really opened my eyes again. I think 559 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:43.960 thirty four is like baseline pretty good. It's a B. I think I 560 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.320 think it's a B. Yes, I'm trying to be realistic about that. 561 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.559 No, you're not, No, you are not. I'm looking at your 562 00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.840 shit there. You're not being realistic. There's a clear bias in here from 563 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.119 White Chocolate. But even if you look back at lists from two thousand and 564 00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:59.320 two, like ten Best Movies, this was on a lot of people's lists. 565 00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.559 I'm trying to look back versus you know, in its era in two 566 00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:07.320 thousand and two, The Two Towers forty dog movie, no doubt, best 567 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.480 movie of the year. I think you have Minority Report, which was pretty 568 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:14.159 close, roughly a forty dog movie for me. I fucking love that movie. 569 00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.079 Catch Me if you can probably better than this Other than those three, 570 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:21.400 which were our three other nominees when we did the vault for this year, 571 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.039 I would probably take this movie over every other movie from that year. Oh, 572 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:30.360 we forgot to give a credit for spawning Yomama with Wilmer Valderrama and Wilding 573 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:35.679 Out. You had Roads Perdition, which some people love as an all timer, 574 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:37.920 no doubt, but I would prefer this. You're the first spider Man, 575 00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:42.159 Sam Reimi. Spider Man came out that year, Signs great movie, 576 00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:46.440 Insomnia, So it's I think it's in the conversation for best probably six, 577 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.320 top six or seven on the year. Did Catch Me if you can come 578 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:52.239 out that year? Yeah? Two thousand and two, Yeah, I have 579 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.960 this at thirty eight. Hot Dogs Gooo. It's not an all timer, 580 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.079 but in any given year it could finish in the top No, but for 581 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.639 you, is it an all timer? Yeah, like no doubt. But 582 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.679 if I were gonna if I were to make a list of one hundred greatest 583 00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.480 movies, this wouldn't be anywhere near the top forty year five. But also, 584 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.920 can you name me another movie that you walked out being like, that's 585 00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:20.079 what I want to do? I would be hard pressed to come up with 586 00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:27.039 one higher on that list than this one. Again, separate from the M 587 00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.360 and M stuff and the white chocolate stuff, the pacings phenomenal. The drama 588 00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:36.519 is great, the music is awesome. It perfectly defines and captures like two 589 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.639 thousand and two. I think it's a great movie. Who thinks it's a 590 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:43.119 very good movie or a pretty good movie? No, but I also think 591 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:47.320 the bookends of it are fucking amazing. And you know me, this is 592 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:51.639 what it is more than anything. Goo. I am a sucker for a 593 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.320 satisfying conclusion, and this is the most satisfying. But even the beginning with 594 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.039 him, you know, not being able to go on stage, choke, 595 00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:00.480 choke, choke. All right, well let's get to the timeline then, 596 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:04.119 yeah, how about that. Also, just realizing spoilers if you haven't seen 597 00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:09.320 this movie, yeah, hours ago we opened Detroit nineteen ninety five. Uh 598 00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:14.079 you hear shook ones in the background, see b rabbit in the bathroom mirror 599 00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.480 kind of like trying to get it together, fucking throws up vomits on his 600 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:22.320 sweater. Bouncer won't let him back in until Future vouches for him, So 601 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.960 you're like, even the people at the shelter don't want Jimmy there. We 602 00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:29.719 find out his ex girlfriend has claimed she's pregnant. He gave her the car. 603 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.400 He's going to move back in with his mom an eight mile. Uh. 604 00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:35.440 We kind of figure out Papa Dox like the king of the shelter. 605 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.320 He's the host. You see the choke choke choke line that Papa Do's not 606 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.400 the host. Future's the host. Oh sorry, yeah, Papa Docks the 607 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.440 king futures the host. That sets the characters like down a very good path 608 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:50.559 for the rest of the movie. Uh. When he finally gets back to 609 00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:54.760 his mom's trailer, he walks in on his mom riding cowgirl on Greg Buell. 610 00:41:54.960 --> 00:42:00.000 Great scene, and you sent a perfect thing. Let me see it 611 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:05.639 was from Cinema Sins. Let me grab the exact quote here. What did 612 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.239 they say? Cinema Sins is a pretty good take up of this movie. 613 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:14.039 I got rid of it to not have a naked but on my one second, 614 00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:15.320 Okay, I have it from your text, give me a second, 615 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.559 all right, all right, Cinema said said Also, it's not like Jimmy's 616 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:24.320 quiet as he walks in there, but his mom doesn't even turn around to 617 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:29.920 see who's coming in the front door as she's letting someone else come in her 618 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:36.239 front door. Yeah, Greg's the one that notices she keeps riding. It's 619 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.840 fucking incredible. Yeah. Also, him and Greg Buell went to the same 620 00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:43.599 school. Yeah, but Greg was three years older. Again, Kim Besiger 621 00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.079 is great as white trash in this. We meet his sister Lily. Then 622 00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:51.280 we meet Wink, who's promising Jimmy the world. He's an over promiser, 623 00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:53.960 under delivered, just classic. Also, we figure out that Wink doesn't really 624 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.800 like the shelter, probably because know what, the shelter really likes Wink. 625 00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.039 Then we meet Brittany Murphy's all outside the factory. And also one of my 626 00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.639 sneaky favorite scenes is the double Bird because he's trying to flip off his boss 627 00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.039 flips her off. She flips it back right then and there you're like, 628 00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:10.000 oh, Alex gets it. I'm in on Alex. And then go my 629 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:15.519 second favorite scene of the movie outside of the Chintiki scene the Sweet Home Alabama 630 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:19.320 remix. My name is Jimmy, his name is Greg Buell me him and 631 00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:23.239 you. We went to the same school and Future it's the school the same 632 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:27.280 time that Jimmy does because he gets it. He understands Rat. You know, 633 00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.039 he knows what's coming. Yeah, it's that kid rock song right A 634 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:36.239 live man a trailer. Uh. We find out when caing Future fucking hate 635 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.880 each other, we get a couple Biggie Tupac references, which is always fun. 636 00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:44.400 Again, the freestyle circle outside of the Chintiki is my favorite scene in 637 00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:45.760 the In the whole movie, I quote it way too many times. No 638 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:50.199 one ever understands what the fuck up quoting. They get in a quick fight 639 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:55.199 with the free world there, uh cheddar Bobb yells yeah, fuck the free 640 00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.800 world. And this is where we get the first instance of you need to 641 00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.960 take your white ass back across eight mile. Another thing that I quote all 642 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.719 the fucking time. I say it almost every day. Also in this movie, 643 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:13.239 Future keeps on telling Jimmy that as soon as Jimmy wins a rap battle, 644 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.519 three one three or the three one third, is that what their group's 645 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.760 called? Yeah? Three one three it's easy living for them, Like that's 646 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:22.719 it. As soon as this happens, their reputations through the roof. I 647 00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:27.320 don't know if it did anything. I don't. I think you're putting you're 648 00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.480 putting words in future's mouth. Three I'm not that's exactly what he's saying. 649 00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.880 And then we get a couple of minutes later the scene where Eminem pulls the 650 00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:37.000 Yui, gets out and starts to fight with Free World. That's where Chetta 651 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.960 Bob shoots himself in the leg, and we cut the scene of the car 652 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:45.679 where he asks Jimmy if mc bob is a good rap name. Uh back 653 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:51.079 at work you Jimmy smokes exhibit at that lunch truck, and that makes Alex 654 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.400 so moist. They got to immediately run into the factory. Fuck. I 655 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:59.039 will say that Cinema Sin's also did a great takeup of like so for a 656 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:00.719 break, you get thirty men minutes. He waited in line to get his 657 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.800 uh deviled eggs for so long, then he went outside and did a rap 658 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:08.320 battle. Then he had sex for what feels like forever. How long are 659 00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:13.400 these breaks? I probably was probably about thirty minutes. Crammed that all in 660 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.199 in thirty minutes he did like, I don't even know if he got to 661 00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:19.920 eat. Actually, he was probably pretty hungry that day, especially after sex. 662 00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:27.039 Not on those boiled eggs that are for the defending machine disgusting. Uh 663 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.119 and then uh not too many minutes later, he fucking finally makes it to 664 00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:35.280 the studio to meet Wink. Was he fine? Go his boy Wink fucking 665 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.880 his girl Alex? They hadn't know what was going on because they knew Jimmy 666 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.559 was coming. Excuse me, I know you must just threw up. That's 667 00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.639 how upset this makes me. Yeah, I think this was a little bit 668 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.480 of Alex testing be rabbit here, like I know you might catch us, 669 00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.519 but this is fun for me as a thirteen year old, I was I 670 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.800 rashly upset in the theater. I was like, how dare you? Motherfucker? 671 00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.519 And then minutes later we get like the scare scene quote unquote of the 672 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:04.559 movie with a Free World, with a Wink holding the fucking ice back on 673 00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.239 his face, comes and beats the shit out of him in front of his 674 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.519 little sister, which is like hard to watch. She's screaming Jimmy from the 675 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.239 trailer. It's like hard to watch it's not great. I don't like that 676 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.400 scene though. It's like, wink, grow up. Yeah, seriously, 677 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.159 you gonna have your friends beat him a fucker? Yeah, if you deserve 678 00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.920 it. Wake deserved his beating. Wake. If you want to fight him, 679 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.800 fight him, yeah, fight, fight like a man. His mom 680 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.880 wins Bengo thirty two hundred. Huzzah. They get they're gonna get a double 681 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.360 decorationd How much money is she putting into the pot that she's gonna get thirty 682 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.159 two It must be a massive banquet hall that they're doing bingo in, because 683 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.400 that is a lot of money. Yeah. The combination of him getting his 684 00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.320 ass beat and then running into Alex again and her kind of taunting him about 685 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:50.440 not going back to the shelter finally motivates him enough to go back and redeem 686 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.400 himself. Uh so we get we set the scene for like the final act 687 00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:58.400 at the shelter. And this is where you took a note here from a 688 00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:02.199 from a Papa Doc line. At this point we should have all said, 689 00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:08.119 maybe Papa Doc isn't a great insult rapper. He said to Cheddar Bob and 690 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:14.159 to Jimmy, it looks like a handicap convention. In here. Yeah, 691 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:15.960 he really smoked them. You're gonna they have anything more clever. You're the 692 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:21.320 three time champ of this rap battle. I don't know why he keeps saying 693 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:22.840 three either. I don't know where you're getting that number for. It's at 694 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.199 least three, I bet, I bet it's like a month. Yeah, 695 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:28.800 I'd say probably. If it's a month, he doesn't have to do it 696 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:32.400 anymore. What's he doing? I think he's gonna retire. Yeah, his 697 00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:37.039 friend with the glasses suggested that he retired after winning it once. First battle 698 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:40.119 rap. On the evening he gets Lickety Split, and the whole audience is 699 00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:45.840 like, ooh, this almost seems like lickety Split was maybe underseated. I 700 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.159 don't know how they do the seedings. Might have been some controversy back in 701 00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:53.239 in ninety five. Uh, lickety Split, pretty good job. But Eminem 702 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:57.559 uses his own line against him at the end of his and walks his eight 703 00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.599 is his white ass back cross eight mile. I think that's what puts Eminem 704 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:05.760 over the top. But the crowd didn't understand that reference. Yeah they did. 705 00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:07.800 They didn't know that callback. It was a callback to something earlier in 706 00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.719 the movie. No Lickety Split says it in his in his in his rap 707 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.840 it yeah he does, all right, my bad on that. But I 708 00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:20.559 would also say that as soon as eminem I'm sorry, it's not eminem. 709 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.840 As soon as Jimmy finished his rap, future just a means like, that's 710 00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:28.320 that, that's it, that's it. It's over because he just showed his 711 00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:32.239 white ass because he just finished his rap. You gotta let people know. 712 00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:36.719 You gotta get people. You gotta give you the thirty seconds. Take a 713 00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.599 step back, consider the first rap, think about it, and way, 714 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:45.559 all right, guys, let's see what come. Let's see a show of 715 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:51.239 hands for licking down. Let's see a show of hands for be a rabbit. 716 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.039 I think I could host this. I think I could host this. 717 00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:55.880 Don't get me wrong. It was close. Lickedy got it, and then 718 00:48:55.920 --> 00:49:00.679 he's faced up against Lotto, who is also got corner, but it's more 719 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:02.920 jacked. He gets hit with the leave of the beaver line, and then 720 00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:05.960 at the end of that he's like, oh, the leave the beaver line 721 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.679 almost killed me. But he spins it back on him good, which is 722 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.840 obviously a common theme leading up to his final battle with Papa Doc. He 723 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.639 said I think you were a little hard on the beaver. So is Eddie 724 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.000 Haskell, Wally and Miss Cleaver pointing to the Free World, which a great, 725 00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:22.519 great fucking line, and then he basically tells him he's he's a he's 726 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.400 a roted out freak. And he's also like, you're saying the same same 727 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:29.679 shit he did, AKA, you don't have anything else on me, and 728 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:34.199 then he beats him. Then we set up for what is like such a 729 00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:38.119 satisfying moment that Papa Doc is like, let this bitch go first. Like 730 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:45.159 I can't even think of any Rocky movie, any like Karate Kid, any 731 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:51.880 Final Showdown, uh Usa, Verus, Russian Miracle, Mighty Ducks. I 732 00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:57.199 can't think of anything more important than this one final rap battle. And it 733 00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.960 starts so perfectly. Now, well he stands tough. I notice that this 734 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.159 man did not have his hands up. It's like perfect. Fuck. The 735 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.199 Free World three started with a chant for if you want to win a rap 736 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.920 battle, just fucking chance. I am white, I am a fucking buck. 737 00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:14.960 I do live in a trailer with my mom My boy future is an 738 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.360 uncle Tom. I do got a dumb friend named cheddar Bob who shoots himself 739 00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:21.199 in his leg with his own gun. I did get jumped by all six 740 00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.400 of you chumps, and wake did fuck my girl. I'm still standing hands 741 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:29.639 screaming Fuck the Free World. Seminal moment in my lifetime. Then he brings 742 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:34.119 it back though, yeah, but I know something about you. So good. 743 00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.119 The lady says it, it's so good. Went to brook it's a 744 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:42.039 private school, and Clarence's parents have a real nice marriage, and everyone's like, 745 00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:47.800 boo, fuck you, you suck. It's so good. It's so 746 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.000 fucking good. Like what an insult? Oh, your parents love each other, 747 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:58.400 you only have one Christmas? You loser? Uh, it's so good. 748 00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:01.000 Fuck the Free World three one three, and then he exchanges the bird 749 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.920 with Alex again. Then we get to your favorite line of the movie, 750 00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.280 where it Is tells him you're the man now dog, you ain't got to 751 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.400 work, and he's like, no, I didn't make any money off that. 752 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:15.199 I need to buil money. I love. Right after he says that, 753 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:19.119 the beginning of Lose Yourself starts playing and he's like, nah, I 754 00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.320 gotta go back to work, and he starts walking down the alley and Lose 755 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.760 Yourself plays us out in the theater. Fucking amazing. Then he jumps in 756 00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:31.280 the air with his hand and it goes into a freeze frame. The final 757 00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:36.480 Yeah, you're right, the final, like twenty minutes of this movie is 758 00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:40.000 just fucking eight thousand hot dogs. It's so fucking good. It's so good. 759 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:45.519 I think I'm good with the be I think that cool. I'll put 760 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:50.559 it this way. I tried really hard to not give this forty hot dogs. 761 00:51:50.639 --> 00:52:00.000 I was very objective. Thirty eight hot dogs. That's pretty good. 762 00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:06.719 Max and Maxac could be anything, that could be a boat and Mac. 763 00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:15.079 As the weather gets hotter, we are coming upon Freeze Pops season. So 764 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.679 I need to ask you. There are six colors in a box, the 765 00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:23.079 old traditional box, whatever you want to call them, freeze pops, otter 766 00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:30.440 pops, ice pops, ice pops. Tell me which colors are you going 767 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.960 to first? I don't even care what the flavors are because there's an argument 768 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.320 always, Well, that's blue res or, that's caught in candy, that's 769 00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.400 tropical pups, that's watermelon. The flavor is the color, Yeah, the 770 00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:44.679 flavor is the color. Yeah, no doubt about that. To me, 771 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:49.599 there's a clear top three, and I don't know. I actually haven't had 772 00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:51.719 a free pop in so long, so I'm not confident with my number. 773 00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:53.639 I just bought them. So yes, Uh, but blue, green, 774 00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:58.559 and pink clearly head and shoulders above the other three. No, no, 775 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:02.239 no, I think the clear two that are above the other three is blue 776 00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:07.320 and pink. Oh see, I would lean if James gun to my head, 777 00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:09.119 shot gun to my balls, I'd go green and blue with pink. 778 00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:13.519 Third. Want to hear me out real quick, Okay, I think that 779 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.760 green is the licorice of freeze pops. You either love it or you hate 780 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:22.199 it. That's probably purple. Purple, I believe is delicious because it tastes 781 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:27.440 like medicine. It's the worst flavor though, so I think that it's better 782 00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.719 than red. Though I think that red. Hear me out, shut the 783 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:35.320 fuck up. Red is the most consistent flavor, like, you know what 784 00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:38.199 you're getting with red, but it's never one that I'm seeking out. Red 785 00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:43.280 is clearly fourth, ahead of orange. That is clearly fifth. Purple is 786 00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:46.719 clearly sixth. And then in my homes as a child, purple and orange 787 00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:51.280 were always the last two. I still like them, but clearly the bottom 788 00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.480 two. And my parents' home right now from when I was a child. 789 00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:59.320 There are still green ones. Oh I'm going over there tomorrow. You can 790 00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.719 have those twenty year old freeze pops. It's still good, right. And 791 00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:06.519 also, I think that orange and red are closer than what you're making them 792 00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:08.280 out to be. I think they're pretty similar. Yeah, four than fifth, 793 00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.440 but you can flip them. I wouldn't flip them. I think red's 794 00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:14.119 better than orange, but I think they're clearly fourth and fifth. You can 795 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:15.400 make that the middle tier if you want. Now, I'll even say this 796 00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:19.480 is that I prefer pink over blue, but I'll give you the edge of 797 00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.880 blue over pink, because I those are the two best those you're gonna make 798 00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:25.800 our list. Blue would be number one, then, yes, our combined 799 00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:30.679 list, and then pink would be number two. Where would you rank green? 800 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:32.400 So green would be my last one, but because you have it number 801 00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:36.840 two, it would end up being three. Probably it might be number one 802 00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.880 on my list. So yeah, it would be three, and then red, 803 00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:44.320 red, and orange would be fourth and fifth in some order. And 804 00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.679 then purple, red and orange would be tied for fourth act because I have 805 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:52.800 purple, I think at three, Oh what I like purple a lot at 806 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:55.440 three, though, yes, Oh my god, it tastes like medicine. 807 00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:59.360 I love medicine. I'll tell you what. We would be a good split 808 00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:01.000 though, if we had to eat free spots together, because you can take 809 00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:05.159 blue, we would get half the pinks. Okay. So say if we 810 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:09.440 say, if we opened a box of twenty four, let's say how many, 811 00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:14.119 So this six flavors. So let's say if we had a box of 812 00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.000 eighteen. This works out perfect. Three flavors. Need to know, make 813 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:17.960 it even number? Make it no, no, let's make it an odd 814 00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.239 number. Wait for it. Okay, So if it was an odd number, 815 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.199 would open the box. You would get two blues. I would get 816 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:28.239 two pinks, would each get one of each. Then you would get all 817 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.639 three greens. I would get all three purples, and then we would work 818 00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:34.400 out the rest. That might work. Yeah, the math works out pretty 819 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.400 well. It might. I'm also saying that most likely they're gonna sell them 820 00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.480 in a twenty four pick, so that was kind of pointless. I would 821 00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:44.199 like one of every flavor, though. Let me make that clear. Oh 822 00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.280 but you don't like purple. No, I like purple. It's just clearly 823 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:49.559 six. You just talked to them, would you fucking hate it purple. 824 00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:52.119 No, I said, it's clearly six. I like it though, I 825 00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:57.239 just like it about you. I like them all. It's like skittles, 826 00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.480 I like them all. Purple is just clearly the worst one. You eat 827 00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:01.840 them, did you like mash them up first and then like eat them as 828 00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:06.719 a fine slush. You know what I really liked was taking an extra long 829 00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:08.679 cut of the top and eating that little little bite at first, you know, 830 00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:13.159 like a like a little costcoat taste teaser right there. You know what 831 00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:15.360 I used to do as a kid. And this makes no sense. So 832 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:17.960 you usually buy them when they are just juice. Yeah, you put them 833 00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:21.079 in the freezer. They freeze over, and then what I would do is 834 00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:22.960 I would sell science works. But then I would take them out of the 835 00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:25.599 freezer, wait until I turn back into juice, and then drink it. 836 00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:29.679 No. I did like though, if you grabbed like six or eight, 837 00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.800 because you're not just getting like two, you're getting a handful in a paper 838 00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.920 towel, and by like the third one, the fifth, sixth, seven, 839 00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:39.599 the eighth, worns are getting pretty juicy, so you're getting like a 840 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:44.000 different texture with each freeze pop as you go along. Would you ever mix 841 00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:46.639 the colors. Oh yeah, yeah, did that quite a few. Sometimes 842 00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:51.320 I would intentionally not drink the bottom bits of juice and then by the end 843 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:59.440 make one long thing of juice. You are a mad scientist. Yeah all 844 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:00.719 right, guys, so head over to Twitter right now. Tell us your 845 00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:06.239 favorite freeze pops, tell us what you think our rap name should be, 846 00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.360 and then just you know, tell good that you're sorry that he threw up 847 00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:12.280 yesterday. And I bet in two thousand and two I ate a shit ton 848 00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.679 of freeze pops while watching eight Mile. Yeah guaranteed, MC freeze Pop. 849 00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:21.719 That's a terrible dame. I think Rooster's your best name. All right, 850 00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.800 thank you? Uh, head over, I just did that. Mac. 851 00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:27.480 Where can the people find us? You can find us on Twitter and on 852 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:30.599 Instagram, at Mac and Goo podcast every other platform. We're Mac Amper Sam 853 00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:34.639 Goot's max Shift seven Goo that includes Facebook, stit your tuning cast, Spreaker, 854 00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:37.639 Google play hard Radio. We're on Spotify, but more importantly we're on 855 00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:40.480 Apple Podcasts. Get on their rate review, subscribe five stars. If you 856 00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:44.159 do that, we'll get you a free T shirt from the folks over at 857 00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.440 Watertown Sports Where. That's Watertown Sports where thirty four Modauvren Street in Watertown, 858 00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:53.239 Watertown, sportswear dot com expert screenprinting and embroidered pepup dot com. I think 859 00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:58.719 the biggest news that came out of this past weekend is U meatball summer is 860 00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:02.400 back. I have had I had multiple meatball subs since I saw you tweet 861 00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:07.079 out meatball subs. Look, I have a feeling that when I eat my 862 00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:09.800 meatball subs this summer, it's gonna be all homemade ones, because I think 863 00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:14.760 I make them better than most stores. I would agree that you can make 864 00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:19.000 a better one at home than like ninety five percent of restaurants. Yeah, 865 00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:22.679 like, I love my sauce. I love my balls. Just the ad 866 00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:25.760 effect. Some places do it, the ad effect that if you just put 867 00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:30.400 a little garlic butter and turn it into like a pseudo garlic bread with the 868 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.840 meatball sub just puts it over top. But also, and not every place 869 00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:37.920 does this. Most places will provolone. Then you go with the nice I 870 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:42.480 like and mozzarella. I like a blanket of provolone. Yeah, sometimes the 871 00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:45.079 mutts, but definitely for sure the sprinkle of the pecorino romano. Oh ah, 872 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:50.199 palmersan sorry not mozzarella. It's palmersan I like the Pecorino romano. No, 873 00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:54.920 I do both. I'm unstoppable. So guys tweet us out your photos 874 00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:59.599 of meatball subs all summer long. And also, I forget who asked me. 875 00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:01.320 They're like, wait a second, isn't this the spring? No summers 876 00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:07.639 started when June two hit the theaters. Summer kind of starts this week. 877 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:10.199 We're getting eighty degrees this week. Damn straight acs will be going up. 878 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:16.639 I'm gonna try and not drop it out my window. Good luck, So 879 00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:30.199 Tuesdays or goosdays? I abuse kangaroos. The team Barton, please flip the 880 00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:31.800 cassette over to side B to continue the adventure