WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:17.519 I'm okay. I just smiled. Am another to in the face. Yeah, 2 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:24.160 she want to stay singing to your beach. That guy with drake don't 3 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:26.199 decide to tell me you mom, you can't keep it. Really, if 4 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:28.000 you really don't trust me, you come with a real you get up in 5 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:30.199 the front so you get my meals. I'm conning for the money, money 6 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:32.560 in the bank. Come on with a tank, scrolling that tank rolling with 7 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.159 the gang. You're sitting on the side of the triple. I go to 8 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:42.799 the whole with a rock light. Pippot ya. I'm okay. But what 9 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:45.399 up? And welcome to what I wait? It's liveing on sports dot Com. 10 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:48.840 I'm easy. Welcome you. Joined by Sami Morax, Hello, Young 11 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:53.759 Christopher Columbus, Nicholas Cole, off, Mario. Let's go. You guys 12 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:56.920 have it already. Please make sure that like what it means a world to 13 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:00.759 us, our show is live during drive time. Know that thop with YouTube 14 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:06.599 during that time so it helps them find us afterwards. First and foremost, 15 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:10.640 Happy Turtle Day, Happy Turtle Day. Dan McCarty and every Detroit Red Wings 16 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:15.359 fan listening across the world. Uh, Dan McCarty, If guys an't familiar. 17 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:17.120 I mean, you guys gotta know by now a lot of guys watched 18 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.760 all the shows about the day. This is the day Dan McCarty fully clawed 19 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:23.200 the mute yep, and I put it on my cause I put on my 20 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:26.680 Instagram story. But just goes so much deeper than like, yeah, he 21 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:30.840 beat up the guy who injured his teammate because thought was also a bad motherfucker 22 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:33.239 at the time. Yeah, and the Avalanche had the Red Wings number. 23 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.200 They had beaten them multiple times. The Red Wings were one of the best 24 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:38.200 teams in the league, but so were the Avalanche, and the Red Wings 25 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:41.120 could never get past them. That was always the big bed for them. 26 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:46.359 And obviously Claude you know, boarded Draper and then sliced his face up, 27 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:49.879 scarred him for life, and that was something that they took the heart and 28 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.439 dmack talked about it today. How the guy who started the fun, the 29 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.760 guy who started everything was Igor Lariano. Yeah, a guy who's like five 30 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:02.920 to six, one hundred and fifty pounds, grabs Forstburg and gets into a 31 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:07.359 fight with him, and then so d Mack knew it was game time. 32 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:09.599 After he saw Ariano throwing punches, he knew it was game time. He 33 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:15.280 turns around, he's looking for Claude Lemieux and Foot grabs him and puts him 34 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:17.719 a big ass dude, he got six y three just behem, A strong 35 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:23.280 guy is holding dmac back so he can't get to Claude Lemieux. So Shanahan 36 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:27.280 comes up to Foot gives him a two arms shiver to break his grip off 37 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.560 of dmc. Demack gets loose. The rest is history, and it's just 38 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:36.159 awesome to see dmac talk about it every year. He teared up. He 39 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:39.199 teared up because that's like, that's more than just his teammate. It's more 40 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:43.520 than him and Draper are best friends. They're still best friends, and they've 41 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:46.520 been best friends for a long time. So that's just an awesome situation. 42 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:52.439 Hockey justice. And then of course they come back from down two goals in 43 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:54.919 that game, and guess who gets the game winner. Darren McCarty, who 44 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:59.879 shouldn't have been in the game, man should not have been playing. He 45 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:01.759 got He didn't even get a fighting penalty. He didn't even get a five 46 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:07.560 minute major. He got two minors for roughing as he need fucking mew in 47 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:14.159 that head like it's it's just an amazing story. Obviously, hockey gods shined 48 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:19.319 upon us because Demat gets the game winning goal in that from Shanahan. Yeah, 49 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.479 and Larry onov like, it's just the perfect scenario that that line was 50 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:28.039 the line in overtime to finish it off. It's just like hockey is such 51 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:30.439 a beautiful sport because things like that happen. And then obviously we know the 52 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:36.120 rest is history. They ended up overcoming Colorado going on to win for Stanley 53 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.400 Cups. Darren McCarty is cemented as one of the biggest legends in the history 54 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:43.439 of Detroit sports. And now that's one of the biggest rivalries. Well for 55 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:46.120 us, it's gotta be the same way for them to write Avalanche fans the 56 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:50.560 Red Wings. Yeah, I love that and speak of like you said, 57 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:53.719 like all time hockey or just the sport of hockey like NBA. You can 58 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:59.639 hardly even sneeze on like a superstar player like Claude lemw was one of one 59 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:00.639 of the guys yes in the league at the time. Yes he was. 60 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.719 Jam mccardi got the bull him, remained in the game and as the Aventure 61 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:06.280 said too for the game winning goal and he says it all the time. 62 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:10.400 We call it turtle Day, but it's not really. It wasn't really a 63 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:14.360 turtle. Like a turtle is when you give up in a fight and you 64 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:16.480 fall on the ground and you give up because you're losing. The hockey God 65 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.959 says, that's the hardest he's been hit in his entire life. And he 66 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:25.480 was knocked out like d Mac knocked him out one punch and so he fell 67 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:30.040 into the ground like it's just d Mac being the being the goat man truly 68 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:40.279 is the goat. Also, Happy birthday to Jamison Williams. Some exciting news 69 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:43.600 on his birthday, i'd assume, So we'll talk about that in this first 70 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:46.160 segment Today show. Lots of things changing around the NFL, more rule changes. 71 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:48.279 We'll get to that, but before any of that, we gotta give 72 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:51.519 you some bs. That's what we're do. In his opening segments, we 73 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:57.720 joked about the Diddy stuff. Little did we know it really wasn't a joking 74 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:01.279 matter. This guy is three homes. I would say, three homes got 75 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:06.439 rated by the FBI yesterday. I think, Miami, I don't know what 76 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:12.639 the other you're breaking in that, would you say? I said, La 77 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.519 Miami I don't know if there was a third I know he was taking the 78 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:19.720 jet, like is that party? Did he really flee? They can't confirm 79 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:23.639 though that he's on the jet, but there was a jet heading to an 80 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:28.839 area that was extradited. But the problem is the jet was coming from la 81 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.759 and he there was footage of him in Miami while his homes were getting raided. 82 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:35.560 So I don't know. I I truly don't know. There's been people 83 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:40.639 trying to figure out. Apparently the same detective, the same great detective who 84 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:43.399 tracked all of Taylor Swiss fights, that's on this case. So I'm sure 85 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:48.120 we're going to get answered. Yeah that, I mean, we joked about 86 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:55.920 it. No Dinny Diddler to put he gonna the Riddler's uniform. They have 87 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:59.279 other question marks, lots of questions, but a lot of questions could be 88 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:04.160 answered. It's like did he r Kelly? It's you know, it's situational 89 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:10.879 with these guys. Is it's tough man tough. It's just whatever I want 90 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:15.040 to have to get wasn't lying about that? It's not. Also, he 91 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:18.360 sold all his Revolt stock and everything, so he's completely away from that company 92 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:24.000 and totally dissociated with the Revolt Company started. So your Mike's messing up. 93 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:27.439 It's messing up. Yeah, I try to un it's just my headphones or 94 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.800 not maybe like from here, Yeah, because it was it. Uh. 95 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:33.319 I don't know the name of this guy from like the seventies, eighties and 96 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:38.759 something like that too. He's a famous uh film producer, Roman Lansky or 97 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:45.439 Roman, I don't know whatever it's. I can't think of the name of 98 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:50.439 the guy who Sharon Tate or Shannon Tate was his wife, Roman Plans Roman. 99 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:56.439 Yeah, similar thing. Uh, obviously different accusations out of that situation, 100 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.920 like that was more towards children or whatnot? Did he actually this one 101 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.720 don't know hasn't been on FROW. But the only reason why it's a thing 102 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:06.680 today, well first it's just crazy to begin with, naxtly, and that's 103 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:11.120 the only reason is how insane, Like you hear these things all the time, 104 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:15.560 like when Kanye says it and your Drink Champions podcasts or Kat Williams goes 105 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:20.079 and says it on Shannon Shark's podcast used Diddy's names specifically in both scenarios. 106 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:23.199 Yeah, and you're just like these guys just crazy guys, Like they're just 107 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:28.240 talking about crazy spirit. It's real. Normally the people who are talking crazy 108 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:32.120 about Hollywood situations, or it sounds like they're talking crazy some of the most 109 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:35.680 of the times they're telling the truth, they just get made out to look 110 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:40.319 crazy by the people they're talking about. How many times you heard these kind 111 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:43.399 of stories, you just you're quick to dismiss them. And that's why it 112 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:46.920 come to yesterday too with the rule change the NFL is for player safety. 113 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:50.839 Player safety, my asshole, this is for fantasy football and parlay, yes, 114 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:55.800 and or a wait for reps to easily decide or I guess have more 115 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:59.560 of an impact on the oulcome of games. Again that phils It sounds crazy, 116 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:01.240 but how many times we're saying, like shit's crazy and we're watching it 117 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:05.560 like go down, yeah, and like this day and there too. I 118 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:11.279 remember the memes of of Stephen Hawking that took off for a while, but 119 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:15.560 yeah, he was actually there, like he was on the flight log man. 120 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:20.199 Stephen Hawking was an Epsteiner, Like I don't know, man, I 121 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:24.759 try to stay away from that ship because that's a life that yeah, I 122 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.120 would never be involved in it. It's disgusting behavior in me, But yeah, 123 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.079 I just know what something we talked about on the show. So a 124 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.000 little bit of an update on and I guess, and that Hollywood crazy bro 125 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.559 stuff is looking like it's more true than not. There was also is my 126 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.120 mic good now? Yeah? Fund of good? Okay, far so good. 127 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.639 There's also some Syracuse basketball player that's allegedly been arrested as a drug deal 128 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:48.840 in the in the Diddy case. He's like, I'll get his name in 129 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.519 second. I think it's Brandon Paul if I'm not mistaken, but he's been 130 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:58.080 arrested in the raid. So it was a Syracuse basketball player. Well, 131 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.360 probably keep guys up there on that randomly route, uh, throughout the month 132 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.399 until that gets closed up whatever, But uh, I guess moving on the 133 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:07.679 more sports stuff. And I meant to this one yesterday. I don't know 134 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:13.000 what we got into. It passed us. But the head coaching all the 135 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:15.799 coaches in the NFL h met up again in Florida. Do you have this 136 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.159 picture, Chris? I know some of a couple of segments ago, like 137 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.879 a couple of days ago. You can grab a psycle. You don't got 138 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:22.840 it all the coaches together? Yeah, oh yep, I got it actually 139 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.519 right. And last year or like the past few years since the arrival of 140 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:31.600 Dan Campbell sparked up the conversation who wins the head coach battle royal? Yes, 141 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:33.200 because I'm gonna be honest with he spinny, I don't think he's number 142 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:41.320 one anyfore, Okay, that's what I say. Yeahause before it was Dan 143 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:45.519 Campbell easily, no questions about it. There's these guys Antonio, Piers, 144 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:50.679 Demico, Ryan's like, yeah, the dogs. He's pretty big too as 145 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:54.440 he tall ship. Uh, who's the guy Sola Jonathan Gannon, No, 146 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:58.039 put that thing back up. Jonathan Gannon all the way the right. I 147 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:00.759 didn't even think of him as the time. He's looking prett Jack Nick picture 148 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:03.519 too, all the way in the right bottom right. He's been bulking for 149 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:09.159 this picture to see. They hear these conversations. They're sick of being told 150 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.080 the Dan Campbell bully him and beat the Dan Campbell beating the ship out of 151 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.080 anybody except for Tonio Peers. Yeah, because you go to Antonio Peers side 152 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:20.320 and like similar situations Dan Dan Campbell getting older to and Tonio Peers, I 153 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.960 believe a little bit younger, maybe the same age, well like Tony Pierce, 154 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:26.720 sure, barely fitting them too, just as wide as well. And 155 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.960 you know a linebackers. Linebackers are tight. Ends are the linebackers. They 156 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.120 offer the same thing, the crazy on the crazy. I guess you can 157 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.159 fit full backers, full back full backers, full backs in there too. 158 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:41.679 Antonio Pierce is a problem, Damiko Ryans would be a problem. And Rob 159 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:46.720 Salla is looking even more Jack. So you know what, who would should 160 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.559 be in the conversation doesn't look nearly as Jack because he's kind of looking pudgy. 161 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:54.080 He heavyweight shot to him though. Gerd Mayo, Yeah, but he 162 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.720 don't look the part as of a bad ass at the very least. Brian 163 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:03.240 Dalbill looked like the most least intimidating man. And I'm dam well, Mike, 164 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:07.519 Mike McDaniel, I'd probably take damble over Mike McDaniel, Sean McVay looking 165 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:11.120 god Jack, Mike McDonald looking god Jack. I mean, even Kyle Shannon 166 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:15.000 doesn't. They they knew, they knew, they knew what it was. 167 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.440 They went to Taylor's. They found shirts that fit you'll pretty tight around that 168 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.399 bicep for this very photo. Dan Campbell's still top five, Top two, 169 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.000 oh for sure, Top three, top three for sure. Yeah, like 170 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:30.480 I said, you gotta put uh, you gotta put Antonio Pierce in there. 171 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.159 My top three in no order would be Antonio Pierce, Stimiko Ryans, 172 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:37.879 and Dan Campbell. That's fair. You know who. Like not in this 173 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:39.639 picture per se, but I did see one of him shot our guys from 174 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.639 low km's podcast. They went out to dinner with Todd Bowles and Jason Light. 175 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:48.360 Yeah he's look a pre jack net but not in this one like I 176 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.039 said, but normally typically he's as a pre jack guy. And another update 177 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:58.320 real quick. I wish I actually cut the video part of it, but 178 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.200 Dan Campbell didn't mention it just because we were out the uh the Hinden Hooker 179 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.039 stuff. Yes to say, I want to give you guy an update. 180 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:07.399 The Dan Campbell did still still say today that a'mora and Jared goffire priorities. 181 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.679 Uh, there's nothing he's coming with speaking with, but there's definitely stuff they 182 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.879 want to get done. Yeah, a little update on that thing. Don't 183 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.039 know what's gonna go down with it. I still I'm gonna be stubborn to 184 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:18.320 stick to my guns, just because that way I could say I was right 185 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:22.559 if it happens. But if I'm wrong in that one, don't. Yeah, 186 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.279 And that's what we're doing the beginning of the show, right because people 187 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:28.600 are just now filing in. I could say I already got I already said 188 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.159 it. You want to hear it rewinded? What is he gonna say? 189 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.320 No, we're not planning on resigning this guy. That's facts too. That's 190 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.600 that's a very good point. And by the way, too, when I 191 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.080 say that, I don't, I don't mean it as like moving on from 192 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.240 Jared goff onto hidden Hooker that I'm trying to move on from Jared goff On 193 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.480 and Hooker. I'm just saying that's probably the reason why this is taking a 194 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.000 little bit so long, just because they have that contingency planning hind Hooker and 195 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:54.279 they may want to see it. What he is Miton made says Hardball crazy 196 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.200 enough to beat them all. Dan Campbell would have obliterated Jim Harball. I 197 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:01.879 put Jim Harbaugh top ten. He's so I go bath Bro, but I've 198 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:03.840 got to meet on multiple occasions. Od guy. He's a psycho piece. 199 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.679 He's a weird guy. Yes, he's a weird guy. Alter, I 200 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:11.159 mean he's beating like like McDaniel and Sean McVay and Brian Dable. I'll get 201 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:15.120 him modes for sure, but he's not hanging with the heavyweights. What do 202 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:16.559 you guys think about the top five in the chat? I'm curious, Yeah, 203 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:20.039 put it in the chat. What do you guys think about Jim hyping 204 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:22.960 up JJ like crazy so he hopefully gets drafted, you know, in front 205 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.080 of him. What do you think he's I mean, I think that's why 206 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.960 he's doing it so teams can move up in front of him so he gets 207 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:33.679 to draft who he wants. There's this guy, there's a literal quote from 208 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.799 Jim Harbaugh say I'm so excited for this quarterback run because the draft starts at 209 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.600 pick number five. Yeah, truly, that's a quote. Yeah, it's 210 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:43.960 I mean, that's obviously don't have it right in front of me, but 211 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:46.159 yeah, he he made mention of like, yeah, I'm excited about the 212 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:48.919 quarterbacks at the top of this draft. I think it's like in connection with 213 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:54.120 the same statement he made about JJ, just because yeah, that allows more 214 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.200 other people to push down it to where he's gonna be at, which, 215 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.159 by the way, I still think they might trade back raise the sales says 216 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.919 hardball and start biting or some ship. He would definitely be he'd be grinding. 217 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:07.159 I mean, he's a crazy he's a crazy person for s Like I 218 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.720 said, I'll give him the easy one like Sean McVay and and Kyle shanahan 219 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:16.399 and and Brian Dabble and Mike McDaniel. I'll take Jim over those guys. 220 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.120 But he's not hanging with Demiko Ryans or Antonio Pierce or Dan Campbell. Can 221 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.039 you put it up? Where's Demiko Ryan's in? This? One's got Let 222 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:28.120 me let me uh, Rob Sala? Rob Sala's looking Jack as well? 223 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.720 O. Ryans is all the way left. No, he's in the middle. 224 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:37.440 No, that's right next to Let me rewind this on my computer so 225 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:41.840 I can see it. Zooman on Chris middle. You said, yeah, 226 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.279 m on the black guys in the middle. Yeah, Demiko Ryans is in 227 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.879 between. Who's that on the other side of Demiko Rans. I don't even 228 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:54.080 know who that is. It looks like Shane looks like stick. Wait a 229 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:58.600 second, who is that's Shane Steichen in between KOs and Demiko Ryans? Yeah? 230 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:05.519 Yeah, because that's tall ship he is. My real question is Who's 231 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.840 next to Dave Canallis? Who is that Dan canalls Who's Dan Dave Canos? 232 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:16.799 The guy next to Andy Reid? The young damn dude theceers'll see. I 233 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:22.399 don't know because I thought this is between Dan can Allis and Sem Payton. 234 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:28.120 Is that Sean Sean Payton's next to Kevin Stefanski. John Payton's in the black 235 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:30.720 with the hat. I'm pretty sure that's Sean Payton. Are you talking about 236 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.600 the Are you talking about the guy next to Sean Payton? Yes? Yeah, 237 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:39.399 No? Who is he? The guy that I hired? It? 238 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.200 Uh? Is the Titans new head coach? Could be the Titans new head 239 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:50.600 coach? Okay Jim coming with a weapon, m J Jim will probably bring 240 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.639 a tire iron or something like I said, Jim Jim could beat Definitely a 241 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:58.480 lot of those coaches. I would take Jim on him, but not the 242 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:03.480 Heavyweight's not the heavy mateback Rob Sola, Dan Campbell, Antonio, Pierce, 243 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.960 Dimigo, Ryans. I know we're over. It's one more time, Chris 244 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:12.679 apologize. Who's next to Dang Cam? Who's that? I don't know it's 245 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.000 I literally got assumed I'd have no clues. Next to Dank came between Drive 246 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:21.240 Mayo and Dan. Maybe that shamesite. I don't look up the new coaching 247 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:26.200 hires. 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Do 280 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:11.960 you have a lazy yet? Hey? We we saw a vacation. We 281 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:17.720 called him old Tony two eyes, craziest eyes I've never He was looking everywhere 282 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.960 everywhere. He was standing over my friend. He was staying over my friend 283 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:25.599 just like walked up to us. And why was he standing over I don't 284 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:27.599 know. He was letting, getting up forgetting like his chat stick or whatever. 285 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:30.880 And I turned to him and I say, don't move. I think 286 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:37.119 he hasn't seen us yet because all over the they started laughing, probably while 287 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:38.759 he was standing over him. Dude, that ship was That ship was weird. 288 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.640 All right, we're gonna get in the show. I send it right, 289 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:45.480 Caleb Williams one did jump? Yeah, I got a three km You 290 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:51.160 want volume or no, no, no value? Just okay? Got you 291 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:53.599 saw talk about your face? Nick? I don't have you seen this? 292 00:19:55.599 --> 00:20:03.799 I don't know what it is. Yeah, this future Chicago Bears quarterback Caleb 293 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:11.000 Williams at the Females basketball game hitting that dance in which whatever, you know, 294 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:14.799 that's that's a normal dance. But let it, let it loop one 295 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:22.440 more time, Chris, and just pause it right here too late. Yes, 296 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:30.279 we go back. I just I don't care. By the way, 297 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.880 again, I'm rooting for the chaos, but there's just narratives. Don't know 298 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:40.720 if he's like just trolling us. Ready play pause. You want to be 299 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:45.160 a little clear, But it don't matter if not pink the pink iPhone, 300 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.680 I don't care about. Yeah, paint and nails, the nails. We 301 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.119 know that he does pink wallt as well. The wallet one, and that's 302 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:57.400 like a staple of like the keychain, the wallet with the keychain and the 303 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:02.519 little strap on it. Yeah, it's staple of Lady Jane's women. Staple 304 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:07.279 of Lady Jane's women. It's uh, well he's a killer bro, that's 305 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:11.319 dude, can still ball. I'm not worried. But the wallet one, 306 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:14.880 Yeah, that's the only one. I was like, well, come on, 307 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:18.519 all coupled with the dance, like we know he paints his nails. 308 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:21.880 I don't care about that. We've been wearing. You can have a pink 309 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.400 phone. That doesn't nothing, nothing wrong about it. A lot of people 310 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.200 say he's wearing lipstick as well. No, that's just that's just the filter. 311 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:32.359 Yeah, filter. Well, it's like because I saw the video that's 312 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.640 more clear than that, like of the actual broadcast. Okay, and it's 313 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:37.599 no, he's like yeah, someone was like he's wearing I don't think he's 314 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:41.839 wearing bows anyway, he's not. Yeah. And by the way, Steve 315 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:45.440 Wild like we he's a baddie, says d C. No, he was 316 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:52.119 not wearing lipstick because I saw the actual game a picture of how he's gonna 317 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:59.720 look on Draft night. You know this one, this is Williams can understand, 318 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:06.720 you know what. Let me hit that And honestly, bro again, 319 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.559 I'm rooting for chaos. I don't care whether he is or isn't what people 320 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:15.039 are suspecting. I'd rather him be it so we could just watch the world 321 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:21.920 melt, watch the ex It's all that matters is if you can ball or 322 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:23.680 if you can't ball, and he can ball for sure, absolutely, And 323 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.640 like I said, you have a pink phone, don't care about that. 324 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:30.880 You can do your dance doing at paint nails. I personally would never do 325 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.599 it, but the kids are doing it nowadays for something. Sure, the 326 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:38.000 wallet one is the one that got me because that's like, literally I imagined 327 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:45.400 my past like six encounters of sexual nature and they all have that kind of 328 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:51.799 one. Yeah, with the keychain on it. Yeah, yes, that's 329 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:56.200 Aunty Diary's number one. If I've ever seen for sure one three. Kurt 330 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:00.200 said he's future. H O G was it? What do you think all 331 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:10.559 of game? Yeah? All of game? Connect the dots. I mean, 332 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:12.079 I'll let you tell you during the break or someone put in the chat 333 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:18.279 he could ballo you ever see his fall through? Yeah? Yeah, but 334 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:23.519 that doesn't mean why is it hall of or whatever. Listen, God's great. 335 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.200 I don't care if I'm in sales and the duke can ball and that's 336 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:32.240 all. I don't care if you paint your nails. I don't care if 337 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:33.559 you've got a pink phone case. I don't care if you do your little 338 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:37.119 dancy dance on TikTok. As long as you go out there and give me 339 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:38.759 four hund and fifty passing yards three touchdowns, you can do whatever the fuck 340 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:42.039 you want. Absolutely, and I think that, like honestly, would be 341 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:47.279 kind of cool to have like some representation for those people, because I guess 342 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:49.759 it's not just like regular players, not Michael Sam going out there. I 343 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:52.559 don't know how. I don't know how to word this guy. I'm sorry, 344 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:55.359 I don't know how to navigate the conversation. I think it would be 345 00:23:55.400 --> 00:24:00.720 cool. This is a tough area to navigate because he really is I don't 346 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:04.519 know whether he what he what he does in his spare time. I gotta 347 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:07.839 take Michael Sam's brow. But I'm just saying it's more than a Michael Sam 348 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:12.640 though, because this kid getting ball like Caleb Williams is legit. Yes he's 349 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:18.039 a dog. Okay, I'm not reading that, Shane Shane d But that's 350 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:22.440 really funny. What are you saying. I'm not that's they're trying to cancel 351 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:25.200 us in the chat right now. I'm a crazy one that I can't stay 352 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:27.400 on there. Yeah, but I'll say it. I'll say it during the 353 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.039 break. But like I said, do whatever the fuck you want, as 354 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:36.359 long as it's not against the law or I don't know, people some didty 355 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.839 ship like, as long as it's not that you would do whatever you want, 356 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.440 as long as you show up on Sunday and go crazy. And I'm 357 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:47.240 not judging exactly. Yes, I do believe this kid is gonna be different. 358 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:52.160 Like I have watched a lot of I've watched a lot of his game 359 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:57.119 tape. The man is a dog, So I paint nails, have a 360 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.880 pig phone, do whatever they want. I don't really as long as, 361 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.000 like I said, you go out there and you ball on Sundays, that's 362 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:04.839 all that matters. Don't call him a dog, call him a bad bitch. 363 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:10.160 Oh my god, Yeah, I hope he Uh. The only thing 364 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.920 that I care about Caleb Williams is that he does not do good on Sundays 365 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:17.359 because he's gonna be in a Bear's uniform. I hope this guy completely sucks. 366 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:22.880 I obvious the next Bears bad quarterback that was a terrible uh draft prospect 367 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.119 honestly, or a terrible pick out of the Bears organization. I hope he 368 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:29.759 stinks on Sundays and the Bears have to draft another one the next save your 369 00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:32.319 d said he's a gen Z kid. Get used to it that That is 370 00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:34.680 a good point. It's like gen Z. There's that one kid from Duke 371 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:40.440 Detroit. One kid from Duke the freshman that's going crazy and then turn around 372 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:44.359 he paints his nails, he does tiktoks of the games listen. Because it's 373 00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:48.480 such like a masculine sport. I would love for the world to be flipped 374 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:52.279 on his head. Yeah, especially if being good. Now I'm kind of 375 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:56.200 with Nick Karl Anthony Towns out there, like yeah, but Karl Anthony Towns 376 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:03.240 is like he's in the nial he's hide what what this he's not? I 377 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:10.640 mean, we're tiptoeing a lie, you see the Comic Detroit Sports team. 378 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.119 No, like we can't read any of these We can't read any of these 379 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:15.559 comments. You cannot read any of these comments. Again, rooting for the 380 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.640 world to be flipped on its head. Like I said, I don't care 381 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:21.400 what the fuck you do, what you do in your free time. As 382 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.559 long as you show up and you ball, that's all the matters. It's 383 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.799 such an underdog like scenario to like if he does in a ball because like 384 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:34.480 I don't know, man, everyone he is or would be hypothetically like everything 385 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:37.279 you you get made fun of when you do play that sport, you know, 386 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.799 like if you hit softly or whatever, like, oh, you're a 387 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.160 you know whatever. But he plays like a dog exactly puts his shoulder. 388 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:51.680 Imagine getting truck stick by a dude with pink nail polish, just like, 389 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:53.519 oh damn. Like he goes to help you up, but you just see 390 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.640 the pink nail polish and your fucking two hundred and fifty pound linebackers just like, 391 00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:00.119 damn, we gotta get all this, man, I'm gonna get canceled. 392 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:06.240 So many funny things. He is the best quarterback prospect to come out 393 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.920 since Trevor far Yeah, maybe better than try to better. He's a better 394 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.720 prospect. So yeah, I mean he is typically like a camp Mes guy 395 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.440 here, but I don't know, and I think he's going to be a 396 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:19.079 dog like he is. Like I said, I watched a lot of his 397 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:23.000 film, a lot of his games because they're electric, and he would he's 398 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:27.480 undefeated in college when his defense lets up less than thirty two points. Yeah, 399 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.759 so like everybody want to say, oh, he can't win big games, 400 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.519 Well, he has historically one of the worst defenses in college. Like 401 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.400 ever, like his defense always feels him And I'm not saying, you know, 402 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:42.480 twelve or less points thirty two or less points and he didn't lose a 403 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:48.319 game in college like that is extremely impressive. And I'm blessed enough to know 404 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.519 some people that are in the loops of certain things that get to have conversations 405 00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:55.240 with Caleb Williams, with people around Caleb Williams and everything like that. We 406 00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:57.079 question him about because you can't question ability. Yeah, I mean I guess 407 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.559 you could. Well, I want to see it for sure. But like 408 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.480 he's still a really great lead in the locker room, like he is still 409 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.279 like very much a team guy. Sure, like he's not I mean maybe 410 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.039 he isn't. We're just the old guys. We're the old guys. These 411 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:12.920 are this is the young guys exactly, Like this is gen Z, the 412 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:17.480 ship that we used to get away with and say in high school of middle 413 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:22.039 school. That ship doesn't fly no more like gen Z either. It's different. 414 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:26.920 It's a new era Man and the kid kick and fucking ball. So 415 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.119 absolutely, I would one thousand and one million percent, no doubt in my 416 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.799 mind draft him at number one overall if I was any team, Like absolutely, 417 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.119 he's by far the best prospect in this draft, the only person on 418 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.160 a per prospect basis that might be better than him. Is Marvin Harrison Junior. 419 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.359 Yeah, that's per prospect like yeah, position value wise though, that's 420 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.160 why he's gonna be the number one overall pick the matter who is there your 421 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:53.119 selection? You're telling me you would draft him over JJ McCarthy, Yeah, 422 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:57.160 ten times out of It is a new era of football, and so much 423 00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.480 so they're changing the new kickoffs. We'll talk about that when we get back, 424 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:06.000 But first, Nick, you might tell us about Feldman Chevrolet. Yes, 425 00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.559 sir. Since nineteen ninety six, Feldman Automotive has been driven to provide 426 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.960 a fast, convenient, in first class car buying experience called the Feldman Advantage. 427 00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:18.400 With eighteen locations, there's a Feldman dealership in your backyard. 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Chris Nicholas called 446 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:07.720 off Mario. I remember somebody in the bank clinker they were born Like yeah, 447 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.960 damn younger here, younger here. Even though it's only fucking six years 448 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:17.000 younger than me, it's still two thousands. Wow. We were literally born. 449 00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.400 And I know they made this joke on joyk and I guess Knel used 450 00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.759 to make this joke all the time, born in the late nineteen hundreds, 451 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.200 like we were literally born, Yeah, in the late nineteen hundreds, we 452 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:30.119 could say that, actually you were born two thousand and two. Fuck no, 453 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:34.200 dude, we judge those people ninety eight, ninety eight, shout out, 454 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.640 Yeah, I got I'm two years of yeah, two years of Yeah, 455 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.880 you're two years younger. I judged the two thousands babies. Still a 456 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:45.400 way, we're talking about the game's changing, right, Caleb william is gonna 457 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:47.559 be one of the better quarterbacks in the league or projected to be that. 458 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.720 It's also changing in terms of like quite literally no more hip drop tackles. 459 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.599 And now they officially changed the kick return in the NFL. I don't know 460 00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:57.599 if you want to put up one of these graphics, Chris, and I 461 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.960 guess I'll do like a brief actually watch the phone one or just the put 462 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:07.079 the one with the xes the ex knows, because I think it's better for 463 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:07.680 me at least. I mean, you can do both of them, really, 464 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:13.519 but so essentially the kicking team will still kick from the thirty five yard 465 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.599 line, but the players on the kicking team will line up on the opponent's 466 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:22.759 forty. Those players cannot move into the ball is either caught or touched back, 467 00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.720 and touchback now has to be in the end zone. Yes, they 468 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.079 can still receive the ball out of the end zone, move forward, talking 469 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:34.000 about the returners if they'd like to. However, it's only touch back if 470 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.079 it goes to the in zone. So so no more touchbacks. Twenty three 471 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:39.599 had the most touchbacks in NFL history. The kickoff miant nothing, It was 472 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:44.119 just a ceremonial thing at this point. Like this helps it too. So 473 00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.319 the setup zone is where nine of our players I guess not the receiving team 474 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.359 will line up and then you have two returners. And this is where the 475 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:57.680 conversation turns for me and where I get excited. Actually, that's send the 476 00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.559 video of the XFL one. That's fault if I didn't. If you watch 477 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:04.759 the XFL, that's what it's gonna be. I will sent that XFL rules, 478 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:09.000 which is something that the Lions could take advantage of. Us take advantage 479 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:14.000 of because that means the kickoff team can't get a running head start. They 480 00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.759 have to wait until the player catches the ball and they're only five yards in 481 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:23.920 front of the returning front wall. So imagine Jamison Williams or Jamier Gibbs with 482 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:29.480 the ball in their hands and all those people in front of them. Those 483 00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:34.440 guys in the open field are so elusive and so disgusting that it's gonna be 484 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.960 hard to guard them. I doubt they make I doubt they do that. 485 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:39.839 I doubt they have Jmo or Jamier Gibbs back there. No, why would 486 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:43.440 it. No, they're gonna do it. One of those twos gonna be 487 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.559 back there. Bro, you think so due, how do you not? 488 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:51.519 These guys an't play makers. I think this is phenomenal news for Detroit Lions 489 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:52.839 fans, and it's phenomenals for just football in general, because again, the 490 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:58.279 kickoff became a whole nothing to kickoff in the xf This is the XFL rules. 491 00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.640 This is what the XFL did their kickoffs, and it's dope. Like 492 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.200 I watched some XFL games last year, and the kickoff is fun to watch. 493 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.039 It's explosive. Things actually happen, So this is gonna be really cool 494 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:14.559 to watch. In uh, in the NFL, the return possibilities are gonna 495 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:19.599 be disgusting and more specifically for the teams too. I saw Connor put it 496 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.880 out there for Bryce Hall or Breese Hall for us. Like you said, 497 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:28.360 Jamiir Gibs, Jamison Williams dogs super fast, guys can make moves in limited 498 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.880 space. I mean you saw jam would do it against the differ Broncos. 499 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:34.880 He kicked return in Alabama for just that one year, only one year kick 500 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:36.559 returns, by the way. He probably did in high school, but he 501 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.159 didn't do it at I forgot where Ohio State is. Somebody did at Alabama 502 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:45.639 and just twenty twenty one, Jamison Wims had a stature somewhere a thousand let 503 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:49.280 me find it. I lost it. Oh one thousand and fifty two yards. 504 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.119 That's actually Jamiers. I apologize. Jama three undred fifty two yards and 505 00:34:52.159 --> 00:35:00.719 two touchdowns and only ten kick returns at Alabama ten just ten, two touchdowns 506 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:02.639 out of ten and three at freet two yards. That guy obviously has kick 507 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:05.960 returning mobility. You're gonna put a wall in front of them on top of 508 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.039 that. I mean, look at what we did and just playoff game all 509 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:12.840 the times stout last year with Jameson Williams. He's cutting those things up just 510 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.480 a few blocks and he's in there for a touchdown. You got that going 511 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.400 to also look at this six ship. Yeah that was a handoff. I'm 512 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.559 the kick return. Yeah you also Jamior Gibbs is nasty and up the field 513 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:27.119 two. This is uh who said it though? Jamir Gibbs, by the 514 00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:29.960 way, that was a guy who had one fifty two yards and what touched 515 00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.079 out and forty four kick returns. And in his cleegire, just a fan 516 00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.679 makes a good point. He says, all kicks will be through the end 517 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:39.199 zone now if they wanted to. But if I see Jameson Williams or Jamior 518 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:43.199 Gibbs lined up back there for us, I'm putting it through that there. 519 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.800 I Am not taking the chance of either of those guys getting their hands on 520 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.320 it. Yeah. So basically, and he kicked that short of the landing 521 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.239 zone. The receiving team gets the ball on the forty and he kicked that 522 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.719 hits the end zone as down as a touchback that's received at the thirty and 523 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:00.400 he kicked that goes out of the back the end zone is also a touchback 524 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.960 received at the thirty. Great point by just a fan, because yeah, 525 00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.320 they probably would. It's kind of almost I mean maybe at the seat a 526 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.360 few times, but Devin Hester rules probably for if you have Jameson Williams or 527 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:15.119 Jamior Gibbs back there, going to return one of these, you put that 528 00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:16.719 bitch out the back of the end zone by twenty yards, don't even mess 529 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.039 around. But it's just it's it's filthy beyond just those two names. Because 530 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.719 the other piece, and this is get another visual representation of like how it's 531 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:31.079 gonna look. These were these were fire absolutely again jam Devis and Jamel Jameil's 532 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:34.840 going right there. There's like a few more blocks. And here's a part 533 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.000 of it too, the beautiful part of it. This Obviously he's been a 534 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.440 thing with the XFL, but there's been multiple special team coordinators who kind of 535 00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:45.239 like and our guy. I can't think of his name right now, apologize. 536 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.719 I think he's the best special team coach in the game. I can't 537 00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:51.400 even think of his name, so disrespectful. I probably got in the sheet 538 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.880 somewhere de tro line special team coach. Oh Dave Pip Yeah, I don't 539 00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.280 even know if I couldn't find out my sheet. Regardless, I think he's 540 00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.639 the best special teams coordinator in this sport of football right now, at least 541 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.760 at the national football level. Like you look at how many first downs that 542 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.639 he's gained out of those like special team formations even have at a point where 543 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:12.199 like or germs like throwing the ball for first downs, he's also running the 544 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.559 ball for first downs. Like he's getting creative already in the special team's aspect 545 00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.400 of it. He's part of the core special team coordinators who wanted to like 546 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:22.199 propose this to the league as a group, and at Dan Campbell spoke about 547 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.000 it at the meeting today. He and they fit had already been like kind 548 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:25.800 of discussing this and what they want to do because they were the one of 549 00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:29.239 the teams that voted for it. Only three teams voted against that. Think 550 00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:30.760 it was like San fran Green Bay and I't remember who else. I think 551 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:35.199 it was the Raiders of the other team. But this is phenomenal news for 552 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.719 the Detro Alliance and specifically again Jamison William Jamier Gibbs. They gotta be it 553 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:43.480 right. Like I said, I if you put those guys back there, 554 00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.440 they won't see a ball all year. I can probably see that they'll see 555 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:50.920 you no coach worked their salt would risk it. Oh, they do. 556 00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:52.559 People used to kick in the Super Bowl. It kicked off the Devin Hester. 557 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.880 That's different though, that's not this. It's not different. It's the 558 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.920 grants returnamentable. Yeah, but not with this setup. This is brand new 559 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:01.280 and it's a lot easier for explosive plays to happen. So when if you 560 00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:05.639 have two of the biggest playmakers on the other team back there, you're not 561 00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:07.719 going to chance it. I don't know, man, because you could also 562 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:09.920 have the situation if and that's that's the benefit of it too. Like there's 563 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:15.360 no touchbacks unless you're in the end zone. None. So if you put 564 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:16.719 the graphic up real quick to with the landing zone, Chris, if the 565 00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:22.320 ball falls within this landing zone, you have to return it. You have 566 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.480 to return it. There is no touchback in the landing zone at all, 567 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:30.480 whatsoever. So you also have that the opportunity to like want to kind of 568 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.840 like let work on side kicks. I believe that's a good question. I 569 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.760 think that's I think in the fourth quarter the only time you could do them 570 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.800 is if I'm not mistaken, say Nick, I wanted to say that, 571 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.719 like you have to like be in agreeance that there's an on side kick going 572 00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:50.519 on. It says there are no on side kicks until the fourth quarter begins 573 00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:54.639 and the team is trailing, and current onside kick rules would apply. So 574 00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:59.159 you really put an on side kick into the fourth quarter wow, which then 575 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.760 obviously you up in on sight kick formation. But again, you could kick 576 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:05.960 it into the landing zone and if like you know, someone's not there to 577 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.880 catch it and flops there like the panic, they had to go and pick 578 00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:10.280 up that ball and still return no matter what. Again, there's no fair 579 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.840 catches. They had to return these balls. I love this rule. And 580 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:19.159 again, if they decide I would like Jamo and I would like jimiir I 581 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.159 volunteer those two. And don't give me that pussy shit. Yeah, I 582 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.960 already got today with the with the James Houston injury. Oh that's exactly how 583 00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.400 James Houston got hurt. Brother. This is football in the same sense of 584 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.119 the hip drop tackle. People are going to get hurt. But on top 585 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.159 of that, there are great players who played both sides in terms of like 586 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:40.840 returning the ball and special teams and playing like their position. Antonio Brown, 587 00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:44.400 who's like one of the better wide receivers that ever do it. In my 588 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.920 opinion, all the phenomenal that pump returns to Shan Jackson, why would I 589 00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.079 At a certain time I kind of compared to Jameson Williams or like Conceiling was 590 00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.840 the Shan Jackson another guy phenomenally that Pump returns phenomenal kick returns, as well 591 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.559 as Moonlight as a wide receiver. Not Moonlighting obviously plays a wide receiver position 592 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.280 yard seasons as a wide receiver, Darren, these are guys that played both 593 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.800 their position on the offensive side of the field and through the kicks. Here's 594 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.480 a whole go to the deepest side of the field too. Yeah, it's 595 00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:13.679 I mean, it's definitely a thing. But like I said, if I'm 596 00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:16.920 the head coach and I see Jamison Williams or Jamier Gibbs back there, I'm 597 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:20.679 putting it twenty yards in the stands. I'm not even taking a chance. 598 00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.159 Nick. I think for me, I would put those guys back there in 599 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.639 our big games. You know, obviously, don't do it against the inferior 600 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:31.400 opponents. You know, definitely the playoffs, no, one hundred percent you 601 00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:35.400 put them back there. But then I'm thinking against San fran next year, 602 00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:37.679 you got Dallas next year, you got Houston next year. Like in those 603 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.880 bigger games, bigger matchups, that's when I would do it. Personally, 604 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:46.000 I don't think I would do it like all season Like, yeah, I'm 605 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:50.760 saying no, I'm saying I'm saying, put Jamir and JMO back there in 606 00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.519 the big matchups. But I'm saying like, I don't. I think the 607 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.119 Lions are gonna be so stacked where I don't, I wouldn't fuck around with 608 00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.760 it. Sorry for the language there, in a sense of like this is 609 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:02.440 the first time you dropped an F bomb I might have. I'm serious, 610 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.559 I'm big. We're rubbing off on you. Yeah, Chris, what you 611 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:12.039 got for me? It feels a little it feels a little gimmicky in the 612 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.239 sense like I'm here for it because it will be more entertaining. But that 613 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:17.440 combined with the hip tackle, I feel like this year in the NBA, 614 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:22.360 remember how mid season they had to just correct defense because they're like, all 615 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.639 right, dude, all right, we can't have these every night somebody scoring 616 00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:29.119 seventy straight point you know. Like, I think that's kind of where the 617 00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:31.639 NFL is, and that's where all sports are heading. It offense sells tickets. 618 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:36.320 We know the same. So I am excited for this, but I 619 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.559 feel like it's gonna just lead to more people playing it safe, more teams 620 00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:42.679 playing it safe and just kicking it back to the back to the end zone, 621 00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.400 playing playing it's safe, rather than actually giving them the offensive explosion they 622 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.960 want. And if it does, then I think it's gonna it might become 623 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.280 out of hand and you might start steeming forty eight to fifty five NFL scoring 624 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:55.679 games between that and the hips. That's what they want, that's what they 625 00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.360 what they want, what they want, I'm telling you, that's what the 626 00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.239 NBA wants it. And then it got to a point where it was like, 627 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:04.719 all right, it's too much, we have to dial back. So 628 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.360 I feel like this is kind of not the start because they've been moving at 629 00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.360 for years with passing, but I feel like this could be a year where 630 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.920 there they don't quite know the intention of their or the consequences of their action. 631 00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:17.599 I think the one that hurts the game more is the hip drop tackle. 632 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:21.559 In my personal opinion, I think this brings excitement again. Like this 633 00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:27.159 past year they had the most kickoff I'm sorry the touchbacks in the history of 634 00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:29.840 the NFL, so that they want to make it more exciting. Obviously, 635 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.079 the hip drop tackle makes it more exciting too, because you quite literally can't 636 00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:36.480 tackle the finders from behind unless I mean, I'm waiting for somebody explain that 637 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:38.039 one to me too, by the way, Like I'm not I'm not a 638 00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:40.840 man, I'm pretty stubborn, and I'm pretty like pissed off about that. 639 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:45.159 But if someone can show me how like you can still get a tackle from 640 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:46.599 the back end and not have it be a penalty, because not, it's 641 00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:49.719 more than just like a fifteen yarder, which I guess is the first down 642 00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.159 regardless, but it's an automatic first down top of that. That's the part 643 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:53.159 where I'm like kind of pissed off. Yeah, I can see, I 644 00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:58.719 totally see a situation if like a and we saw like bullshit sometimes last year 645 00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.440 too. If Patrick Mahomes is just of like a fourth and fifteen, it's 646 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.599 just it's another judgment call for the referees to make. And we know every 647 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:06.920 time they have a judgment call, they're not going to do the right thing, 648 00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:08.920 like whether it's roughing the pass here, whether it's if they can make 649 00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:12.840 the catch or not, whatever it is the judgment call for the refs to 650 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.679 make. They seem to fuck it up more than that. I'm also open 651 00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.360 to Khalif and Marisa. Alexander had something to say when people are saying, 652 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.000 like, have Jamo out there and quote twoty one of those ones. You 653 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:23.199 remember him, the kick returner for preseason. Yeah, he's like, I 654 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.840 got this level gets a thousand yards. I mean, I mean he was 655 00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.719 a dog a dog ass kick returner. Maybe be good in this format too. 656 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.280 But Jamo and Jamiir just it's got me excited. That's what does it 657 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.880 for me. That's the guys. I walk back there is nice. Dude, 658 00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:37.239 Well, we got to go to break and coming up after this, 659 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:45.519 we have some new words from one of the Lions' newest additions to their team. 660 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:49.360 He works on Twitter today, But let me tell you guys about Guardian 661 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.239 Alarm. Guardian Alarm wocks you customer solutions from real experts. 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The chat, the kick return, they're feeling it or 688 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:24.119 not? I think it's make a pol Yeah, I'm gonna have to make 689 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.960 a poll. One thing you don't have to make a pull about, at 690 00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:35.239 least I'm not making a pull about. It's Dan Campbell speaking on the guys. 691 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:40.000 They signed here in Detroit, Dogs Socks Dogs and I love when whether 692 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:44.639 it's Brad Holmes or Dan Campbell or whoever may be, you'll hit the podium 693 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:46.559 or get a microphone in front of him and confirms things that we say on 694 00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:50.480 this show. Already because a lot of times, because the lines are doing 695 00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.840 so damn good, it feels like we get carried away and we're just kind 696 00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:57.440 of being like hypemn for what's going on. And you get the guys that 697 00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:01.159 actually coach the game and speak these same scenario, same fact, same things 698 00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:06.679 they expect out of these certain players. This is Dan Campbell speaking on Carlton 699 00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:08.199 Davis. I joined the team if you don't mind playing that one, Chris, 700 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:13.519 Look, Carlton, we got to play him twice and I was in 701 00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:20.400 that division as well before that, and and uh so I just myself alone, 702 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.039 I had a good feeling of of Carlton. You know, we didn't 703 00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.800 want to really throw at him. You know, we know he's he's a 704 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:30.719 good cover guy and he'll tackle on the perimeter. He just there's things that 705 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:35.320 he can do where he can take a little bit of of his side of 706 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.199 the field away at times, which just to have have some of that man 707 00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:40.800 goes a long way for the rest of the defense, you know, and 708 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:46.920 what AG is going to be able to call. So you know, so 709 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:51.760 that that that man that that that's gonna help. And that's really something we 710 00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:55.800 feel like we haven't had here uh, since we've been here, So that 711 00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.119 that was a Brad did a hell of a job getting that trade done and 712 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:05.119 getting it through. He made a very important statement in that that we've been 713 00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.800 talking about for a while since they added Carlton Davis, that this is something 714 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:12.679 we didn't have here. This is something you didn't have here. This is 715 00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:15.679 what they wanted Jeff Okuda to be. This is the reason they signed Emmanuel 716 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.519 Moseley last year and then brought him back after his second ACL injury, because 717 00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.559 he is a coverage man guy. You put him out there against the best 718 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:28.320 receiver, the big, tall, physical receiver, you put him on an 719 00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.320 island, you say, that's your guy, Go lock him down for the 720 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.079 game. That's what Carlton Davis is. That's what he does. That's what 721 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.360 they brought him in here to do. And on top of that, not 722 00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.760 only does he fit the scheme that Aaron Glenn runs, he fits the guy 723 00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.519 they want. They talked to Dan Campbell just said it, he's familiar with 724 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:46.039 this guy. He knows this guy. He played in the same division as 725 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:49.400 this guy. They didn't want anything to do with him. You don't want 726 00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.000 to throw at him. And when he gets out there, if a running 727 00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:53.039 back's in the flat, if a tight ends of the flat, he's gonna 728 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.800 knock him on the ass. This is a guy that fits the scheme, 729 00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:59.840 he fits the culture, and he is a piece that you didn't have. 730 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:02.519 He is what Emmanuel Moseley was supposed to be for the Lions team last year. 731 00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.840 He is the guy they feel comfortable with locking up a one on one 732 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.039 on the outside against a Oh I don't know who were guys that cooked us 733 00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:14.280 last year. Justin Jefferson. That's a guy you could put him out there 734 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.559 against a guy I don't know. Mike Evans. That's a guy that he 735 00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:21.159 played every single day in practice and went on on one on one against another 736 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.880 guy in this division. Big tall, strong, fast guy. Christian Watson, 737 00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:27.360 that's a guy he'll line up one on one on the outside. Caenan 738 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:29.599 Allen, a guy who just brought it into the Bears. A big, 739 00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.400 tall, physical receiver on the outside. That's what you brought him in here 740 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:37.760 to be. He is your tall, long armed man on man cornerback and 741 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:40.159 I'm excited to see him go out there and cook the wonder why he switched 742 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.920 up why I said two cams he took all a good shit. You let 743 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.079 him cook piece of shit. That's why I love to hear this is this 744 00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.079 is exactly what we told you guys. There's people in a chat there're kind 745 00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:52.239 of be a negative. Nancy's always not a CV one. Oh it's not 746 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.840 a great pickup. People kind of hate no to move No. Like we 747 00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:59.280 say it again, it can sound like fandom because we are fans of the 748 00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:00.719 team, and it's not. We're over hyping things. That's not the case. 749 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.719 This is Dan Campbell, head coach, guy i'd probably consider among the 750 00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.760 top ten best coaches in the league, telling you they purposely didn't throw his 751 00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:13.000 way when they played him, and they played him twice once in the regular 752 00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.639 season and then again during the playoffs, playoffs where it matters the most. 753 00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:20.519 By the way, another thing too, is like spinning mentioned and Dan killed 754 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.199 himself too, the whole side of the field. At times, you can 755 00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.199 lead to him and you don't gotta worry about things, and that helps ag 756 00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:30.880 run the things he likes to do, which confirms another thing we told you 757 00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:32.400 on the show is that, yes, I can't sit here and tell you 758 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:37.079 that defensive top ten it absolutely was not. But we told you guys he 759 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:38.519 didn't have the pieces to work with to do the things that he wanted to 760 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:42.320 do. You got the guy's both great and man coverage. You got a 761 00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.039 guy that you get asked the whole things down at least so you could you 762 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.400 could respect to try to hold the guy on an island out there, talk 763 00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:51.039 about like a number one wide receiver to where you can go and do the 764 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.159 things that AG likes to do. And by the way, kind of proved 765 00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:55.840 in my mind that he is good at it is getting freaky with those nickel 766 00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.400 guys, freaky with it, not in a ditty way, but getting like 767 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:01.840 nasty where he's a lot asking these guys in the slot, you know, 768 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:06.920 go down there blitz or safeties or linebackers. AG's told you guys like playing 769 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:08.159 as simple. If it were up to him, it'd be man covers and 770 00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:12.559 blitzing every single play, every single down. Having a piece like this, 771 00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.880 and Carlton Davis allows him to do that. And again we said it before 772 00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:19.320 we even knew he was coming to this team as the Ags this year is 773 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.559 put up our shut up here, Yes, because we knew the piece were 774 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.039 coming. There was absolute bullshit that he's getting judged without the pieces. You 775 00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.920 got the pieces now and more coming by the way too, confirmed by both 776 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.639 Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes during the owner meets as well. But it's it's 777 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:35.880 good. It's good. I love when it confirmed the shit we say. 778 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.880 Speaking of Brad Holmes there, he never gives up capital. I mean, 779 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:45.159 the biggest reason why this Detroit Lions team is so different is because the way 780 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.400 that Brad Holmes is drafted and he gave up capital a third round pick to 781 00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.760 go get this guy. Back to Dan Campbell, when he talks, he 782 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:58.280 shoots you straight. He has criticized his own players and he's given his own 783 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.679 players props. So when he's talking about this guy and he's talking him off 784 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:04.440 like this, it's because he one hundred percent believes it. It's true. 785 00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:07.039 And you look at the numbers and they are true. Like easy said, 786 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.400 we played this guy twice last year. The Detroit Lions played the Tampa Bay 787 00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:15.679 Buccaneers twice last year. Look at Carlton Davis's numbers in those games, and 788 00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:20.519 I'll tell you what we like this offense. We like these receivers that this 789 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:25.039 offense had. Carlton Davis was out there dogging people. So they saw him 790 00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:30.199 obviously when they were coaches in New Orleans, and they saw him twice against 791 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.760 the Lions last year and they liked what they saw. And another guy they 792 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.280 liked what they saw in is the guy who's probably gonna be lining up on 793 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:42.239 the other side, and that isn't Meet Robertson. And Meet Robertson has been 794 00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:45.760 a fan favorite since he's been added to the Detroit Lions and he hasn't even 795 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.199 played a snap yet. Why because he talks that talk And he did it 796 00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.599 again on Twitter today, Chris, do we have This is a Meet Robinson 797 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:57.719 replying to one of our posts, and this is his reply saying, I 798 00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.400 don't want y'all to feel like I'm trolling, but I think about Detroit every 799 00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:05.440 day. I can't wait. This is really God's plan. We're gonna do 800 00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:08.960 something special. And our post is the Wilbard Sports post. Do you have 801 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:14.800 that as well? Yeah? Yeah, this is what was said the post 802 00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:20.199 that he quoted from Woobard Sports. It was about conversations that Dan Campbell had 803 00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.880 with a Meek Robertson after the signing of Carlton Davis, because after they went 804 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:28.719 out and got Carlton Davis. Dan Campbell thought it was it was kind of 805 00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:30.760 dead. The Meet Robertson situation was kind of dead. They might not go 806 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:35.880 after him either. And this is why, Yeah, Dan Campbell and the 807 00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:39.559 Detroit Lions thought they were lost out on to Meet Robertson after trading for Carlton 808 00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:44.679 Davis and to Meet Robertson said to Dan Campbell like, are we gonna do 809 00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:49.000 this or not? And obviously they did it, and they brought him in. 810 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.920 And this is a guy. I talked about the situation before about how 811 00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:57.840 these guys are like the Yin and Yang, and you look at the receivers 812 00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.360 they're gonna be going up against in this league. Obviously, Carlton Davis is 813 00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:04.679 your tall, long, rangy cornerback, bigger guy, long arms. You 814 00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:08.039 put him up against bigger receivers. A Meet Robertson is your smaller, shiftier 815 00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:13.039 dog getting your face, getting your grill cornerback. You look at the wide 816 00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:17.920 receiver tandems in the NFC North, justin Jefferson, there's Carlton Davis, Addison. 817 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.159 You put me a Meet Robertson on him. The Bears Keenan Allen, 818 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:27.400 Carlton Davis, DJ Moore a Meet Robertson. And finally the Packers Christian Watson, 819 00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.079 Carlton Davis, Jaden Reid, a Meek Robertson and oh, let's not 820 00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:35.639 forget that slot's getting clamped all year by Brian Branch. Like they brought in 821 00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:40.199 a perfect ebity and ivory situation with Carlton Davis and a Meet Robertson, because 822 00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:44.239 they both compliment each other so well on the guys that they like to guard, 823 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.639 the guys that they are good at matchups against, and they're both just 824 00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:50.760 dogs on the outside. And both of these guys fit the scheme so well, 825 00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:52.679 they fit the culture so well, and they're both chomping at the bit 826 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:58.880 to good get out there in Honolulu Blue and play for Detroit. Another piece 827 00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:06.920 Dankevi got think about DJ Reader. Do you play that one Chris Reader man 828 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.920 that he popped off the tape immediately? You know, you start going through 829 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:16.000 them and and and everybody has their own evaluations, you know myself, Brad, 830 00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:20.400 the scouts, the coaches, and I mean every one of us had 831 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.599 full buy in on Reader. Like man, you see this Reader at Cincinnati, 832 00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:27.519 It's like his tape was, and this guy's relentless. He plays the 833 00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.440 run. He can get an edge and pass and he just fits this man 834 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:37.880 and he's, uh, you know his character, He's got leadership qualities about 835 00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:43.000 him. Everybody raves about him. So he's the the idea of he and 836 00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:47.679 Mac opposite each other. We felt like was was gonna help us significantly. 837 00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:53.239 Again, another situation where I love with Dan. Kimi goes out there and 838 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.760 confirms the things you hear on this very show. Shout out to you guys 839 00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:59.199 for rocking with us. But we're here for a reason. We know what 840 00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:00.760 we're talking about to a dude a certain extent. Obviously, we be in 841 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:05.039 the NFL. BEFO was like at a higher level than this, but he 842 00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:07.440 just told you right there. He loves the pairing of him and Elee McNeil, 843 00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.199 and I take pride in like, I think I have a good feel 844 00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:14.480 for I think I have good emotional intelligence. I tell when people mean stuff 845 00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:16.079 and they don't mean things. We had the whole debate last year about the 846 00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:20.239 interesting and now it's a drop now too right. I was like, that's 847 00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.239 not like an interesting. How about the laugh from Dan Campbell in the middle 848 00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:28.079 of this speaking about DJ Reader couldn't even help himself. The giddiness took over 849 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:32.360 just just the thought of DJ Reader next to Allen McNeil. Any football head, 850 00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:37.480 any any football brain, mf R out there knows if you got a 851 00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.880 guy like DJ Reader alongside a kid like Alee McNeil, it can get real, 852 00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:45.880 real nasty. And I just want to like, hats off to Brad 853 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.480 because again he told us everything he's gonna do. Yeah, it may looks 854 00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:51.760 sweet. I'd like to take credit for predicting everything, but he told us 855 00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.079 what he was gonna do. In that same meeting where he told you he's 856 00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.199 not gonna go out there and spend shit to that money. Nextternally Ads, 857 00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:59.239 he told you he likes pairings. Of course he'd loved to pay something. 858 00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:01.239 Next to Hutcheson, there's your Davenport hopefully down the road. Of course you 859 00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:04.280 like the Paris. I'm next to what would have been Camp Sutton. Now 860 00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.599 we gotta find another piece that was Carlton Davis. And now the same, 861 00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:12.440 the same situation with Alee McNeil next to DJ Reader causing havoc in the backfield 862 00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.920 for quarterbacks, running backs, whatever type of back you have back there, 863 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:21.199 they they're grow alarmed. Roll back to tape. Roll back the tape. 864 00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:24.119 We talked about DJ Reader. Everybody's talking about Chris Jones, everybody's talking about 865 00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:28.559 Justin Matabuki, and yeah, those are the big names. Those are what 866 00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:32.519 we're gonna hear. But I am in the same exact reason is Dan Campbell. 867 00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:37.679 When I put on that fucking tape and I saw what DJ Reader does 868 00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.719 to a defense, I was like, Yeah, imagine that guy opposite of 869 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:46.000 Alee McNeil, who was looking great playing next to nobody's, playing next to 870 00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:52.719 Bohana and a Lulu and Isaiah Bunks and now you put DJ Reider next to 871 00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.800 him, Shit's not gonna be sweet for offensive lines in the NFC North next 872 00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:00.320 year. Like, those guys are not gonna be blockable. You had three 873 00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:05.400 guys on that starting defensive line that commanded double team. You can't do that, 874 00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:07.760 Like, you can't double team all of them, and they're coming for 875 00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:12.840 that ass No Diddy, Like, I am extremely excited to see how this 876 00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:16.239 guy DJ Reader affects not only the defensive line, but put it on wax 877 00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:22.400 Jack Campbell over one hundred and fifteen tackles next year because of the impact DJ 878 00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.280 Reader brings. The dude is a monster. I was preaching that I wanted 879 00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:29.960 him in Detroit for a long time. And you know, Dan Campbell Bradholmes 880 00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.920 have been known to listen to the Heavies from time. It made it happen 881 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:38.039 because we know we're football fucking guys, like the front off is are football 882 00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:42.719 guys. It's not hard to understand what they like out of players when you 883 00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.960 see their track record. You throw on the tape and you see how these 884 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:47.400 guys play and you're like, yeah, that's something that they would like. 885 00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:52.880 I told you Jack Campbell was a Campbell guy. I told you DJ Reader 886 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.199 was a Campbell guy. Gotta start listening to us, man, Come on, 887 00:58:55.400 --> 00:59:01.079 man, I care about a you guys, man, And I guess, 888 00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:05.119 like I just want for the people who self doubter. It's not the 889 00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.800 self doubters, but the dollars in this team. The people who thought that, 890 00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:08.920 you know, Carlton Davis was a good pick up, that's a bad 891 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:12.960 trade. The people who think DJ Reader was a good pick up for whatever 892 00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:15.639 reason, I've seen. I've read them both. Hope you're all in the 893 00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:17.239 chat right now, and I hope just hearing that from the head coach, 894 00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:21.719 the head ball coach Dan Campbell. I gotta assume that's a guy you respect 895 00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:23.679 by now, at the very least for him to say these same things. 896 00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:29.719 The Lions are Brad Holmes set himself today. Maybe we'll cut the clip at 897 00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:31.360 some point, but he said this is the best racy class they've had in 898 00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:35.360 his regime. And I have to agree this is the most he's gone expend 899 00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:37.480 this. This is everything I wanted to heading into this offseason when I said, 900 00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:42.400 you're kind of right there after that NC Conference championship game, like, 901 00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:44.760 you know your offense can carry at least that far. How about you go 902 00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:46.840 grab some extra piece in this defense to see what this can do. And 903 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:51.559 I want a little bit of a splash signing, not so much like the 904 00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.000 name value, just a guy that's gonna go out there and fucking ball. 905 00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.920 And you got that in DJ Reader, a guy who formerly did it, 906 00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:00.000 Carlton Davis a little bit on a decline, but also scheme got switched up 907 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.719 to again. You guys, if you've watched routinely, you know we were 908 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:05.840 kind of type the guys over there in Tampa Bay. The guys that we 909 01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.519 know in Tampa Bay are literally going to dinner with Jason Light and freaking uh 910 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:13.519 top Boles. Yeah, Todd Bowles like go fall the next you'll see themselves. 911 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:15.159 They changed up their scheme a little bit, doing a lot more zone 912 01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:17.280 because a lot of pieces they're missing through injury or whatever it may be, 913 01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:22.199 and blitzing through those situations. We got a guys gonna play man covered, 914 01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:23.599 shut that down. We got guys command double teams. Let Lean do what 915 01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:27.199 he's gotta do. We gotta the guys gonna head hunt and I head hunt. 916 01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:30.679 It sounds I guess bad. Fuck it. Yeah, you got guys 917 01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:35.159 go ahead hunting me? He said, what what? What did ag say? 918 01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:37.000 I want to bring the violence back to football. Yeah, I want 919 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:44.800 these guys to play as violent. Go ahead hunt. Make let those motherfuckers 920 01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:46.840 feel it, like like take them out, not not obviously out of the 921 01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:50.239 game, but put them on the ground. Make sure they feel you. 922 01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:52.960 Next time they could know, Diddy Man, next time they come to your 923 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.079 side, they're gonna remember how they got hit last time, and that'll give 924 01:00:55.079 --> 01:01:00.159 them that half second hesitation and shout out to the Runyon in the in the 925 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.320 Woolbard Sports chat, he says, what if Davenport in Houston stay healthy? 926 01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:07.559 All season long. Exactly. Those are two guys who can win one on 927 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:12.360 one matchups. Whoever the fuck is on that other side of the defensive line 928 01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:16.159 is gonna be getting one on one matchups every single snap because you got Hutch 929 01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:20.760 Reader and Aleen who you gotta double team those guys. So, whether it 930 01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:25.360 be Davenport, whether it be Houston, whether it be Matthew Betts, they're 931 01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:29.719 gonna be getting one on one matchups. And all those guys are proven they 932 01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.960 can beat one on one matchups at different levels of football. But I'm sorry, 933 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.360 I'm just so excited for this defense. But let me tell you guys 934 01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:40.119 about Planet Fitness. Planet Fitness is the home of the judgment free zone where 935 01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:44.599 anyone can feel comfortable and work on their fitness goals. It's shoulder day to 936 01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:47.239 day boys, we're getting helped. 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I got absolutely I got 981 01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:02.599 forty on it. We got five bucks, but he's got forty. I 982 01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:05.440 got forty, got forty, but we gotta hit. Were gonna likes? 983 01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:11.920 During the live stream listen, we were talking a lot myself. Did Nick, 984 01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:15.280 how are you feeling? I guess I know your initial reaction to Carlton 985 01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:17.239 Davis trade and the DJ Meadors stuff. How do you feeling to listen Dan 986 01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:20.480 Campbell speak about him? Yeah, honestly, Fellas, you guys know me 987 01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:25.280 or you guys heard me on the show talk about it. I wanted difference 988 01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:31.039 makers on this defense one hundred percent because I thought if this defense somewhat matched 989 01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:35.079 the way this offense was looking that this is a Super Bowl contending team. 990 01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:39.960 The defense just needed to catch up. As we saw what did Sam Frank 991 01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.760 put up twenty seven points in that second half? Like that is unacceptable. 992 01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:46.119 That can't happen. I know we gave them turnovers, and I know we 993 01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:50.960 went for it on fourth and didn't get it. But if this defense it's 994 01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:56.320 a top fifteen defense, this team's going all the way, Fellas, or 995 01:05:56.360 --> 01:06:00.119 at least back to the NFC Championship. One hundred percent, because this offense 996 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:04.199 is so elite. If this defense picks it up, I think we'll be 997 01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:08.159 right back to where we wanted to be at where we just let it slip 998 01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:11.760 last year. I mean, you already have one of, if not the 999 01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:14.599 best rush defense in the NFL, and once you do to supplement that, 1000 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:17.800 you added one of the best rush defenders in the NFL to make that defense 1001 01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:21.599 even better. And on top of that, you reworked the secondary to fit 1002 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:25.840 your scheme, to fit your needs. We saw Brian Branch. You don't 1003 01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:29.599 think that dude's gonna get better after his rookie season. On top of that, 1004 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:32.559 you added two cornerbacks who fit your system perfectly, and we saw what 1005 01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:36.480 Ifi Melifamu did when he stepped into that role. Aaron Glenn has the pieces. 1006 01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:41.000 Now this is a make or break year for Aaron Glenn. It's like 1007 01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:43.840 I talked about it a couple of years ago. Two years ago. I 1008 01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:46.239 said he's trying to make a salad with spoiled vegetables, and he showed us 1009 01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:51.400 signs, showed us flashes of the defense playing great. This is the year 1010 01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:57.199 where I need to see a top fifteen defense at least, or I'm gonna 1011 01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:00.320 start to throw shade at Aaron Glenn, like it's he's got the pieces. 1012 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:03.599 Now, You've got pieces in that secondary, You've got pieces on the defensive 1013 01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:08.840 line. You got two great linebackers, Like I expect Jack Campbell to take 1014 01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:12.960 a big jump. Obviously, ANZELONEI has played very very well, very good 1015 01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:16.440 the past couple of years, so he's you can't give him the excuse of 1016 01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:20.159 not having the pieces anymore. He's got the pieces. I don't expect the 1017 01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:27.039 past defense to take the gigantic leap that the run defense did going from twenty 1018 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.039 eight to two or whatever it was. But if that pass defense can be 1019 01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:33.599 middle of the pack, that gives you a top ten defense in the NFL. 1020 01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:36.920 I mean, especially they go in and dress the opposite corner position where 1021 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:40.480 it's like, because I have a little bit of a theory and we'll get 1022 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:44.679 to it in the next segment, I don't know that's as much I think 1023 01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:46.000 me can do it. I don't know if that's what they want. I 1024 01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:49.400 don't I don't know they want him to play that outside cornerback role unless he 1025 01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:55.079 has to. Because it's been some conversation specifically today about Brian Branch moving to 1026 01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:57.559 that safety spot, and we got the clip. We'll speak on that a 1027 01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:00.760 little bit later too. But that's other piece about we're missing, is like 1028 01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:04.079 the fact that I don't know if the secondary is gonna take a big jump, 1029 01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:05.519 like you said too, I don't know if it's gonna be like a 1030 01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:10.039 big big jump, But I think as a defense as a whole is that 1031 01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:14.000 we're gonna see jump. I think it's gonna work together where it kind of 1032 01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:15.000 to be lucky for it to happen. I'm gonna be real about it. 1033 01:08:15.399 --> 01:08:20.760 But you just want guys to disrupt enough plays that the other people can capitalize 1034 01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:24.680 on. And I'm talking about guys like Brian branch A Fontinello found with Jack 1035 01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:28.199 Campbell. I mean, Carlton Davis isn't known for intercepting football. He's going 1036 01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:30.000 forgetting, but he's don't forget his hand on the football. So if you 1037 01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:33.600 have somebody around the facinity that could grab that ball at that point and capitalize 1038 01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:35.800 on that, I mean that's you go. Look at Brian branches only the 1039 01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:39.720 only the one pick six, but the interceptions against the Saints, there's optionally 1040 01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:44.199 against the Chiefs. Both those situations were tip balls that he capitalized on. 1041 01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:46.399 Like that's that's why he's out there roaming around the due Kirbie Joseph. We 1042 01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:48.520 know he has an act to getting the ball as well. Like, I 1043 01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:54.039 think that's what you're looking for in this defense more than like ranking past defense 1044 01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:56.359 versus what it was last year, which, by the way, it's gonna 1045 01:08:56.359 --> 01:08:59.199 be an upgrade regardless as long as everybody says healthy. But that that's what 1046 01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:01.680 I'm looking for. More turnovers. That's why I want to see the turnover 1047 01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:05.680 stat That's why I want to see grow sacks, stuff like that, turnover 1048 01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:10.039 sacks. And by the way, those are things that in my opinion, 1049 01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:15.479 directly lead the winning sacking the quarterback and turning the football over. And we 1050 01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:17.760 actually proved that few years back. Every single win the Detroit Lions had had 1051 01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:21.840 a turnover in those games. Chris, Yeah, My question to you is 1052 01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:27.960 they they were very turnover heavy. They were very risk adverse defense the last 1053 01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.079 couple of years. And I think that's one of the parts of that we 1054 01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:34.239 all acknowledged was because the defense didn't have all the pieces. Do you think 1055 01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:39.800 it actually becomes a more conservative defense now that's a much more held out, 1056 01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:43.880 much more balanced roster. Do you think this is a g getting more players 1057 01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:45.359 to play to his strength at a higher level and this is going to be 1058 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:49.640 still a risk adverse defense because we talked about all season that the way this 1059 01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:55.159 defense was going to get stops or so by turnovers rather than by you know, 1060 01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:57.720 just three downs and yeah, you know, three downs and out. 1061 01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:00.560 You know, I don't again, I don't think it seems a rank high 1062 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:02.720 defensively comes to the end of the year. I mean rush defense for sure. 1063 01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:04.760 You saw him that last year and as me said too, you had 1064 01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:09.359 the best, if not one of one of the best run defenders and the 1065 01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:12.520 DJ reader. I think it's gonna be the same aggressive defenses. You're gonna 1066 01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:15.479 see more more big players executed out of it. Yeah. I got a 1067 01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:17.920 lot of pressures last year with no sacks a show for it. I think 1068 01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:20.520 we actually see some sacks this year. And shout out the piece that everybody 1069 01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:26.079 forgets about Tyrell Williams. Man's gonna make a difference. Man's gonna make a 1070 01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:29.680 difference because this defensive line got home with Todd wash under John Scott junior. 1071 01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:34.079 They did not Tyrell Williams. As per Dan Campbell is the best defensive line 1072 01:10:34.119 --> 01:10:38.119 coach in the NFL. Real quick too, Edwater. And you think we're 1073 01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:41.560 gonna take a huge jump in points allowed simply because now we have like a 1074 01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:45.319 red zone stepsip line. Yes, a guy who could stop the running back 1075 01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:48.960 in the red zone. So I'm extremely excited. Well, we do got 1076 01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:51.199 to go to break because we went a little over on our last segment. 1077 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:55.560 Let me tell you about Lady James, because awesome is when a guy can 1078 01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.960 be a guy and get an amazing haircut. That's Lady James Haircuts for Men. 1079 01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.720 Stop in, sit back and relax and let one of Lady Jane's talented 1080 01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:05.560 stylists make you look and feel great. Walk in anytime, seven days a 1081 01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:12.560 week Lady Jane's. It's wicked awesome, a ton of fun, a ton 1082 01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:16.920 of sports, and a ton of man. Welcome to the Woodward Heavyweights Live 1083 01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:29.720 daily. 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Dan Campbell spoke to the media today, had lots 1101 01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:48.920 of good things to say about Carlton Davis, lots of good things to say 1102 01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:51.880 about DJ and what about DJ reader? And I saw the Tommin Wilversports chat 1103 01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:55.920 as I have you say before a mailbag, But Edward o'neilsa who's gonna have 1104 01:12:55.920 --> 01:13:00.079 a bigger impact Davis or Reader? All due respect to Carlton Davis, one 1105 01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:02.279 hundred percent is DJV. That's why I went. When Dan Campbell literally is 1106 01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:08.199 discussing what he brings the team, he starts giggling like a kid. He 1107 01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:11.640 gets giddy like a child because it's it's it's gonna be disgusting if everything, 1108 01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:15.359 but the man is an absolute animal in the middle of that defensive line. 1109 01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:17.319 He takes two people to block him. If you do not put two people 1110 01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:20.800 on him, he will ruin the play. And even when you put two 1111 01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:25.640 people on him, he still ruins plays. Yea like he is an immovable 1112 01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:29.920 object in the middle of the defensive defensive line and will be extremely beneficial for 1113 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:34.239 Aiden Hutchinson, al McNeil the secondary and like you're talking about two people on 1114 01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:38.399 him and as being the problem, but then like alle McNeil's a problem himself. 1115 01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:40.640 It's like you gotta have like what are you what are you gonna do 1116 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.960 here? You can only have so many offensive linemen out there. LEI, 1117 01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:45.560 I don't getting excited. That's that's the laugh. Yeah, Dan Gambs, 1118 01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.279 that's why he started giggling like that. But I do well, Actually, 1119 01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:53.000 I think the point where he said I actually saw a sweet from Dan Miller. 1120 01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:56.319 Did I send that one? Chris? I think I did a couple 1121 01:13:56.319 --> 01:14:00.439 of takeaways from Dan Miller when he spoke Dan Campbell twice now both the Breakfast 1122 01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:01.640 today and he had a one on one with him yesterday that's on Fox. 1123 01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:05.359 But he said some notes from Dan Campbell's ongoing media session is a loss of 1124 01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:10.319 sudden adds urgency to another cornerback, which I want to highlight on and get 1125 01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:14.359 back. Still looking to add help at safety. Branch can see some time 1126 01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:16.079 at safety this year. And that's when we get into this video from Dan 1127 01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:23.039 Campbell speaking about that transition, possible transition for Brian Branch to the safety It 1128 01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:27.199 could be. I mean, we're certainly Branch has got flexibility, you know, 1129 01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:30.359 to be able to play the safety position. We believe here in time 1130 01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:34.800 and you already we already feel very confident about the nickel. He'll only get 1131 01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:41.960 better and better. And I think really the bigger it's really and and we 1132 01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:45.239 do believe he'll be able to get there. It's how fast do you get 1133 01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:46.680 him there? You know? And because what you don't want to do is 1134 01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:49.279 art man. He can play safety and nickel, but it takes away from 1135 01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:53.239 his nickel play. How good he is as a nickel or how good he 1136 01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:57.920 can become. And so it's it's finding that fine balance between the two. 1137 01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:00.880 And honestly, you know, I just bring this up again, and Deucey 1138 01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:03.079 was the same way when we got him in New Orleans. It was, 1139 01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:06.640 man, he is a safety nickel and when we just let him play nickel, 1140 01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:12.319 he just really exploded. And now you see here he is later in 1141 01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:15.600 his career and he can really do both. He really grew in both areas. 1142 01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:18.640 So it's just a matter of how fast he can get there. But 1143 01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:21.439 look, we're still going to look for safety help. That's not over either. 1144 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:25.640 We know we need some. They are again to bring in some competition 1145 01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:30.199 in that room, and so we're you know, our eyes are there as 1146 01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:32.439 well. Yeah, howd you guys? Safety is coming as well. I 1147 01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:36.800 like Brian branch at Nickel, I do. I mean, I understand he 1148 01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:42.000 played safety Obama and he that his original position. But give me, Brian 1149 01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.800 branch at Nickel, give me him closer to the line of scrimmage. Give 1150 01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:48.279 me him putting more pressure on the quarterback, pressure on the running backs, 1151 01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:50.720 pressure on the line of scrimmage. Because, like I said, my favorite 1152 01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:56.560 play from last year outside of game ceiling or game winning interceptions or touchdowns. 1153 01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:00.960 Was when he took Jon Robinson's head off. That dude is a monster when 1154 01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:03.159 he's coming down the field, screaming into the backfield, going after dudes in 1155 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:06.680 the flats. I want Brian Branch as close to the line of scrimmage as 1156 01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:10.520 possible. I like him at nickel a lot more than I do safety, 1157 01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:12.960 but he could play both. You know, he played safety at Bama, 1158 01:16:13.279 --> 01:16:17.000 so it's not anything that he's unfamiliar with. He's got that versatiality. But 1159 01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:21.359 I prefer him at nickel because he gets his hands on more of what the 1160 01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:26.119 offense is doing. He can blow up plays easier from the nickel position than 1161 01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:30.600 the safety position, and that same I guess the counterpoint to that is, 1162 01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:32.439 like he did play more nickel, to be fair, that obviously would make 1163 01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:34.680 it more replaces from the nickel spot. But I think you want to look 1164 01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:39.680 back to the forty nine Ers game where we found ourselves with situations where he 1165 01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:44.479 was on the field because Kyle Shanahan purposely blowing out lineups so to keep a 1166 01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:46.800 nickel cornerback off the field like those heavier lineups. And now if you were 1167 01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:50.000 playing the safety position, he's still out there for you, and I think 1168 01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:54.600 that's the goal here as I'm assuming both with the signing of Mike Robinson, 1169 01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:58.239 who did play outside last year but also started his career com playing that you 1170 01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:00.800 know, nickel spot, I think that much i'd be the goal for him. 1171 01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:02.119 That's why when we signed him, and I know a lot of people 1172 01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:03.880 thought I was crazy at the time, but I was making the comp to 1173 01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:06.640 the CJDJ. I think he's gonna bring everything you kind of wanted out of 1174 01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:10.159 CJ. Although CJ did have his moments last year too, a couple of 1175 01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:13.920 receptions, but I think, yeah, you put Branch at the safety spot. 1176 01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:15.960 Obviously you wish it works out just as well as it did the nickel 1177 01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:18.520 spot, but then he's on the field more often. I'm saying, there's 1178 01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:21.560 there's no reason, there's no lamps you could deploy as an offense to keep 1179 01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:26.319 that playmaker off the field. Kyle Shannank quite literally said it like at whatever 1180 01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:30.199 postgame presser, was like, yeah, we we purposely like lined out the 1181 01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:32.680 heavy personnel, so Brian Branch like they are less than a playmaker out there. 1182 01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:34.600 I think that's part of it too. And then I think when Meek 1183 01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:39.119 and fill in at the nickel spot. And that's why Dan here, Dan 1184 01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:42.079 Miller shout out legend, shout out. Dan Miller says they are looking for 1185 01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:45.239 another cornerback, and that's some of you guys continue to get leaven more excited 1186 01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:46.960 because as much as we're excited now with the pieces we acquired, there's still 1187 01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:49.760 work to be done, and I think it's gonna come in the shape of 1188 01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:57.920 a free agent. I can't speculate as to who as of now, do 1189 01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:01.439 you guys have any idea? Was on Miami. Dan Campbell was on Miami. 1190 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:04.479 Damian Howard said he would go to a contender and take less money. 1191 01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:09.359 David Howard said he would be comfortable with the Detroit Lions. I don't want 1192 01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:13.680 to put all my bread in that in that box, but like some dots 1193 01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:17.359 connect there, Nick, I'm on the Gilmore hype boys. You guys know 1194 01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:21.640 I am Super Bowl Champion, Defensive Player of the Year. To have that 1195 01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:26.640 pedigree, I mean, Carlton Davis Super Bowl champion. You think about adding 1196 01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:31.279 two Super Bowls champions to this secondary to go with the upgraded defensive line, 1197 01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:35.640 it's gonna cause some problems. And we know that this team's gonna cost some 1198 01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:40.560 turnovers with all the pressure we're gonna get with Houston back Hutchinson get into the 1199 01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:44.079 quarterback. What reader brings to this defense, I'm telling you, I think 1200 01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:47.199 it could transform it quick and I think that will help Gilmour out, even 1201 01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:50.920 if he does if he had lost a little bit of a step because of 1202 01:18:51.359 --> 01:18:54.479 because of his age. I mean, let's be real, boy it too, 1203 01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:56.279 and not that I care to if been the guy at this point, 1204 01:18:56.319 --> 01:19:00.520 because he hasn't made himself look like a price human being. But camp Sutton 1205 01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:02.319 wasn't the greatest out there either. He wasn't the fastest out there. Even 1206 01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:04.960 the Gilmore a little long in the tooth, if that's gonna be a argument, 1207 01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:09.319 he's not as fast as he once was. Cam wasn't showing the flash 1208 01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:12.600 of that either. So when I get the guy experiencing it, I got 1209 01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:15.399 a former defensive m v P Stephan Gilmour. I mean, that's the guy 1210 01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:17.920 that I'm in, at least this guy I'm hoping for. Listen, like, 1211 01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:20.840 just you guys talk it out there. I'm also not a post whoever 1212 01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:25.840 they bring in, because again I didn't know Mick Robinson existed until we signed 1213 01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:28.600 him. And I watched the tape. I'm in love. Maybe he's another 1214 01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:30.119 signing like that. Well, I don't know. We shall see, but 1215 01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:35.279 I'm hoping for Gilmore. I'm hoping for Gilmore. Now that's funny you said 1216 01:19:35.319 --> 01:19:40.359 that about a meet Robinson because I immediately asked, like the biggest Raider fan 1217 01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:43.720 I know, and he's like, man, I got no clue that guy 1218 01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.119 is. So I didn't. Yeah, I didn't know anything about him before 1219 01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:50.199 he came out. I remember I remember watching that play he had against uh, 1220 01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:55.880 Christian Watson. I remember that. I remember seeing that play. But 1221 01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.119 no, I was not familiar with the Meek Robertson's game played. But I 1222 01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:01.800 remember watching that game where he was playing against Christian Watson when they played the 1223 01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:04.960 Packers, and he looked pretty good. Yeah, I think at that point 1224 01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:08.039 for me when I saw it, because I know knew of the play, 1225 01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:11.279 but it's like one of those like nameless bray Fait, I'm saying, like 1226 01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:13.520 you didn't know who it was, Oh sick, like fuck the Packers. 1227 01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:16.720 But no, I think I think he'll end up playing Nickel Branch would end 1228 01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:20.479 up playing safety. The only thing where I'm like, Okay, what happens. 1229 01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:24.119 Is this guy, which I guess he did come split time either way 1230 01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:27.680 last year is a Fontinela famo. We had a little bit of a breakout 1231 01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:30.760 candidacy there last year. Is like, now is he gonna be splaying time 1232 01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:32.560 with Branch? And at that point is Branch still splitting time? Like what 1233 01:20:32.760 --> 01:20:36.399 are we doing there? Or he's running straight like Nickel packages having them all 1234 01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:41.600 out there. I don't know, that's my question. I guess yeah, 1235 01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:44.680 easy. That was a great point though, that you do not want Branch 1236 01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:46.279 off of the field. Yes, you know, like I'm right there with 1237 01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:49.479 you and with that, Yeah, he cannot be because he has all pro 1238 01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:54.680 potential going into a second season. Yes, like I'm expecting massive numbers. 1239 01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:58.119 He looked he missed two games last year, still had thirteen passes defended. 1240 01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:01.720 Yeah, like we're talking about a guy that could double digit TFLs maybe even 1241 01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:06.039 twenty past defended multiple interceptions. We saw the pick six obviously. Yeah, 1242 01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:10.560 this dude is a playmaker. Keep him on the field at all costs. 1243 01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:14.039 If it does mean transitioning him to safety, I mean, let's give it 1244 01:21:14.079 --> 01:21:18.800 a go. Yeah, maybe even I mean, be real, So when 1245 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:20.560 I was just said about it meek. I was more excited about it being 1246 01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:24.840 like a nickel spot if he had to obviously, outside, I was one 1247 01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:27.199 of the first ones excited about the guy by the way too. Once, 1248 01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:29.960 once I finally watched the tape, I should say, like, where is 1249 01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:32.920 the confidence like one through ten unique on the outside, I would say seven 1250 01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:36.680 seven, Yeah, for what he is. I mean, I don't expect 1251 01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:41.800 him to be, you know, all pro caliber corner, but I confidence 1252 01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:46.640 he can play that position and play it well. Chris, I don't like, 1253 01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:50.600 they're not familiar with this game. But you know, he's talking to 1254 01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:56.039 talk and yeah, and I believe that that's a great quality that a lot 1255 01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:58.880 of a lot of cps have or a lot of great STPs have. So 1256 01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:01.439 I think he'll, I think kill do enough. And I think that combined 1257 01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:05.760 with the improved pass rush that will help a lot. So I think he'll 1258 01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:10.239 I think he'll do an adequate job. You know. I think I think 1259 01:22:10.279 --> 01:22:13.479 the baseline is can you be better than Jerry Jacob? Like can you? 1260 01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:17.000 And I think absolutely so, I'm not too. I'm not too. That's 1261 01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:19.039 a great point. That's that is the baseline, And I mean I do 1262 01:22:19.159 --> 01:22:24.319 respect that Jerry. I expect these guys to be better that they've been brought 1263 01:22:24.359 --> 01:22:27.560 here to be that. And Alan W makes a phenomenal point, isn't it 1264 01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:30.279 great that we have so many good players we're debating which one should start. 1265 01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:34.720 That is a phenomenal problem to have. I'm really not tripping. And the 1266 01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:38.399 only reason I asked, I guess like guys confidence level with him starting on 1267 01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:42.239 the outside. My assumption is he's going to take over that nickel spot. 1268 01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:44.760 If they're talking about moving branch to safety, you know what I'm saying, 1269 01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:48.319 Or maybe that's the split between there, that the split would be a meek 1270 01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:54.920 and branch moving back and forth from nickel and safety, or maybe don't because 1271 01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:57.399 if you would take that safety spot branch and moves out of the nickel, 1272 01:22:57.479 --> 01:22:59.520 that's literally what's gonna happen. Actually, it's what he's just said about the 1273 01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:02.159 cd DJ. We did it with the CD. That's what branches bright to 1274 01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:05.720 do. Saint today Albama nicol last year for us. This year will be 1275 01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:09.159 his year to learn safety. But he already had a start in that last 1276 01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:11.399 year too. It's not like he's gonna be like a rookie at that spot. 1277 01:23:11.439 --> 01:23:15.000 He's gonna have some experience. And another great thing to add to this 1278 01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:19.079 conversation is that we're talking about the additions, and I know that makes sense 1279 01:23:19.159 --> 01:23:23.239 because these are the things that are fresh that are happening right now. But 1280 01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:26.920 we are not talking about all the young pieces. I know Spencer alluded to 1281 01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:30.720 Jack Campbell and we talked about Hudge and Elite, but like the guys that 1282 01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:33.479 are already in place, Like that's the exciting part about this is I like 1283 01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:38.079 the addition separately, when you just bring them in without the context of the 1284 01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:42.159 roster, but adding in the context of the fact that this defense is a 1285 01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:45.399 very young defense. I think two years ago Easy wasn't it the youngest defense 1286 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:47.840 in the NFL. Yeah, so this is a young defense, a young 1287 01:23:47.960 --> 01:23:53.000 core, and then now they have veterans and internal growth, Like we're not 1288 01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:57.680 talking about the internal growth part. That's where to me this defense can get 1289 01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:01.239 into that, you know, top half of the league, maybe even maybe 1290 01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:05.239 even for a stretch top ten defense, Like that's where it can happen because 1291 01:24:05.479 --> 01:24:10.800 we're talking about the internal improvement as well that we haven't even really dove into 1292 01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:14.079 yet. Yeah, now that I'm I've kind of cut it out. I 1293 01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:18.119 guess in my head it's not on the opposite side, on the right side 1294 01:24:18.119 --> 01:24:23.039 of the field. I believe they probably dup signing a Stefan Gilmore or it's 1295 01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:26.520 a veteran guy that could play that outside regardless, I want it. I 1296 01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:30.800 wanted you split that between branch and a meet. Anytime branch is asked to 1297 01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:33.720 move down to that nickel spot, you didn't put a Fonta mi fon with 1298 01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:36.439 safety and then obviously on the right side of the field, I'm sorry, 1299 01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:41.239 on the left side corner you got Carlton Davis. That's how it think go 1300 01:24:41.279 --> 01:24:45.680 down for sure in our audio just cut up? Or is that just me? 1301 01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:49.039 I'm just hearing it all right, let's go break. When we get 1302 01:24:49.079 --> 01:24:54.039 back some more. Oh, we got your mock yep, and he's a 1303 01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:59.119 mock draft. 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There's no chance in 1338 01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:35.199 hell they draft and start a rookie on the opposite of crowdon Davis. Oh, 1339 01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:39.479 ye're a million percent gonna sign a veteran corner And if there's still a 1340 01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:43.119 drafted guy, obviously see them visiting taking guys out of the guys probably date 1341 01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:45.880 day three picks or from day two picks. There's possibly that rookie starts at 1342 01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:49.199 some point throughout the season, but going into it, there's no not a 1343 01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:53.800 chance in hell they're gonna rely on a rookie cornerback and the pursuit of a 1344 01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:56.439 super Bowl, Super Bowl run, Yeah, there's there's not a single chance 1345 01:27:56.439 --> 01:27:58.479 of the house. And then the other part too, You guys kind of 1346 01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:00.920 madge spect for the Kirby. All right, Kirby. If there's anybody in 1347 01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:03.439 that back that's not spending time, it's Kirby. Joseph, Yes, Like, 1348 01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:06.960 don't the branch is always going back and forth because he can't. He's 1349 01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:10.760 just like CD deuce. You heard Dan Camblell say the clip last segment, 1350 01:28:11.399 --> 01:28:15.800 play Nickel play safety, kind of move all around if you will. Kirby, 1351 01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:18.560 same put no one's taking Kirby spot is your starting safety, he's your 1352 01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:21.960 center fielder. Yeah, he's good at it too. By the way, 1353 01:28:23.560 --> 01:28:27.680 like if if you don't believe me or haven't believed in the past, just 1354 01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:30.079 knowing what the way, the things we said about the DJ Reader stuff, 1355 01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:32.880 things we said about Carlton Davis were the same as Dan Campbell. Just know 1356 01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:36.239 that the same belief is there with Kirby Joseph as well. Kirby's a dog. 1357 01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:40.000 Is a dog. He's in a great defense. He's a ball hawk. 1358 01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:45.439 Yes, But without further douce spinning. Speaking of that rookie cornerback, 1359 01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:49.359 I don't know if you got one in your draft. We got all right, 1360 01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:53.760 Chris throwed up there my mock draft. He's he's begging me to do 1361 01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:57.199 one yesterday. So I went out there and did one. Bagging at twenty 1362 01:28:57.359 --> 01:29:00.479 nine. I had to take him because he was there. You cooked gimme 1363 01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:08.319 kool aid McKinstry at number twenty nine. Obviously, he is kind of going 1364 01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:10.359 up in this draft right now, so I don't know if he'll be there 1365 01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:12.720 at number nine, but we know he was dealing with a foot injury when 1366 01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:15.880 he did his pro day, So he's gonna be even faster and more explosive 1367 01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:18.680 when that injury heals up. And obviously it helps that he's injured. We 1368 01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:21.560 know that Brad Holmes loves that. And a guy, So gimme kool aid 1369 01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:28.560 mckinstreet number twenty nine and number sixty one. I took a Western Michigan defensive 1370 01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:30.199 line and a guy that the Lions have met with, a guy the Lions 1371 01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:34.279 have showed a lot of interest in in Marshawn Kneeland. A big, physical, 1372 01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:38.760 versatile guy. You can move around the defensive line and can win one 1373 01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:43.600 on ones on the outside. He has that Dan Campbell attitude, that nonstopability 1374 01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:45.880 where he goes one hundred percent every single play and make things happen. They 1375 01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:49.039 like him. I think they go after him. And I took him at 1376 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:53.800 number sixty one and number seventy three. I took my guy, and I 1377 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.279 don't give a shit. PFF. You can keep giving me an f for 1378 01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:59.520 this bullshit. I'm taking Cooper Baby in the third round every single time. 1379 01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:01.520 This is guy who can do a lot of different things. He can play 1380 01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:05.119 a lot of different positions on the offensive line. He has insane numbers. 1381 01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:10.840 When you look up his pass blocking and his rush blocking. The dude is 1382 01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:14.720 a monster. Where was it Soelkie Johnson says that aff looks were off. 1383 01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:17.199 Fuck PFF for giving me an F. Cooper Baby in the third round is 1384 01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:20.640 not an F. It's cool. Suck my dick spinning actually because we we 1385 01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:24.760 we Well, you didn't talk that aggressively. Yeah, but we have the 1386 01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:28.640 guy who graised that F on the show Travers Sikama. It's pretty again that 1387 01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:30.840 yeah called him out. I said, why the fuck is Cooper Babby and 1388 01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:33.239 F? When I get him in seventy three, he's like, dick, 1389 01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:36.960 He's like, you should not be an F. So, yeah, PFF, 1390 01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:39.800 you keep giving me an fter that, I'll give a fuck. I'm 1391 01:30:39.800 --> 01:30:43.359 gonna keep taking him. Brad Holmes doesn't give a fuck either at number or 1392 01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:47.439 their fifth round pick number one sixty four. I took James Williams Safety out 1393 01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:51.279 of Miami VU. This is a big dude. He is like six' 1394 01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:57.399 three plus. He's a playmaker on the outside. One of his comparisons, 1395 01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:02.680 it's Kyle Hamilton, that is one of his pro comparisons. The dude is 1396 01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:06.479 big, he is physical, he makes plays, he flies to the ball, 1397 01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:10.199 and he can get He has good balls because I like him a lot. 1398 01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:13.119 James Williams out of Miami. If you haven't watched the tape, go 1399 01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:15.279 put on his tape. The dude is a force out there. And in 1400 01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:18.880 the sixth round at number two oh one, I took Joshua Sephiz again, 1401 01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:24.399 a big body outside receiver you could throw jump balls to different things like that. 1402 01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:28.880 Sixth round, number two oh five, I took Julian Pearl, big 1403 01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:32.199 monster of a tackle on the outside for Illinois. Big dude. I think 1404 01:31:32.239 --> 01:31:38.039 he's six' five, three hundred and ten pounds, can play that tackle 1405 01:31:38.079 --> 01:31:41.000 position. I saw a lot of him at Illinois. He was very good 1406 01:31:41.039 --> 01:31:43.520 in the run game as well as in pass protection. And then in the 1407 01:31:43.560 --> 01:31:45.159 seventh round, I took will Richard, who I think is the best kicker 1408 01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:48.479 in this draft out of Alabama. Kids pro ready, he can bang him 1409 01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:54.199 from sixty plus. No Diddy, give me will Richard in the seventh round. 1410 01:31:54.319 --> 01:31:56.880 But I took a lot of big, versatile players in this draft, 1411 01:31:57.119 --> 01:31:59.800 Guys that I think Brad Holmes is gonna have on his board. Not gonna 1412 01:31:59.840 --> 01:32:01.520 live those first three picks. You cooked, absolutely cooked. I got. 1413 01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:05.439 I got to do my homework on James Williams, but I'll never complain about 1414 01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:08.840 having a six foot and that you're gonna James Williams. If you watch it, 1415 01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:11.920 Chris, what are you about to say I was a good saying thing. 1416 01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:13.880 I think you had your hand out. Nope, no go in the 1417 01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:16.720 kdistry. He's growing on me. He's growing on me, honestly, and 1418 01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:20.199 initially I didn't like he just didn't have that stickiness i'd like to see in 1419 01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:25.039 a quarterback one. But thankfully I have to assume he's not gonna be that 1420 01:32:25.239 --> 01:32:29.560 in this in this system, and if he does, if you're gonna learn 1421 01:32:29.560 --> 01:32:31.119 from a guy who's kind of similar to him in like body type, at 1422 01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:34.199 least in Carlton Davis. You got another guy that's not the fastest. He's 1423 01:32:34.199 --> 01:32:38.479 a little bit longer, lengthier, he's not the stickiest. Well, actually, 1424 01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:41.199 Carlon Davis can get pretty sticky, but he has a good good uh 1425 01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:45.119 mentor to learn from not having that like quickness, you know, and uh, 1426 01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:48.199 where was it? Super Saiyan Lines says, hell no, not even 1427 01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:51.479 close to Kyle Hamilton. No shit, he wouldn't be coding in the fourth 1428 01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:55.279 round if he was Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton was a top ten pick for 1429 01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:59.600 a reason. But that's his size is aggressiveness, the way he closes on 1430 01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:02.640 balls, That's why he draws those comparisons. That's why they he was Their 1431 01:33:02.680 --> 01:33:06.239 second pro comparison for him was Kyle Himpton because of how big of a guy 1432 01:33:06.399 --> 01:33:10.000 is, how physically is in the run game, and how fast he can 1433 01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:13.079 get from that safety position to the line of scrimmage to chop down runners. 1434 01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:15.680 Yeah, I'm gonna do some more. We're gonna I'm I'm excited for it. 1435 01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:17.279 Then, obviously the second Hilton, he would be a projected top ten 1436 01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:21.000 pit not available in the fourth round. I don't eve think this guy falls 1437 01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:27.479 that far in it. But Marshawn Knelan the second round. I mean, 1438 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:30.960 we had Trevor Sikhmou on the show and he recommended it or said he would 1439 01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:32.439 be surprised if he went first round. Yeah, d charl Lions, just 1440 01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:35.119 because he could've seen him falling back to him. I don't. I don't 1441 01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:39.119 think that happens, at least not for us. I guess I wouldn't be 1442 01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:41.840 surprised. Brad, It's gonna go do his thing. VPA regardless, but 1443 01:33:42.039 --> 01:33:44.560 if you were able to grab him the second round, I mean, that's 1444 01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:47.239 baby Hutch just playing sample to puts you that way. A guy is gonna 1445 01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:51.880 not NonStop motor, his buses ass a little bit of a bull rusher and 1446 01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:57.760 the one move that he likes to use spin move. But unless another valuable 1447 01:33:57.760 --> 01:33:59.800 piece to have on there. And I think if you have those pieces, 1448 01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:03.039 we're just constantly because again I know hutchesn't always get to the quarterback more so 1449 01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:06.000 I guess moving him off of where they want to be. That's why he 1450 01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:10.399 has all those pressure stats. But if you have two of those top of 1451 01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:13.199 a Leaman, DJ like, shit's gonna go your way, whether it's a 1452 01:34:13.319 --> 01:34:15.720 quarterback forcing a throw, whether it's one of those guys breaking free and getting 1453 01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:18.840 to the quarterback in which I my prediction will probably be Lee McNeil in this 1454 01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:23.039 scenario, or and or again forcing to throw, which is one of your 1455 01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:27.279 guys capitalized in the backfield. I'm I'm for it. And obviously Cooper Baby, 1456 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:29.920 I think he's got a dog too. I think Trevor's the only guy 1457 01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:33.399 that are we're aware of that's not a big fan of coup baby, And 1458 01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:36.359 what do you say it was like athletically the athletic traits were, Yeah, 1459 01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:42.039 he was lacking. Talk about production. You look at his production and it's 1460 01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:45.319 over two thousand snaps with like two sacks allowed like they do. It is 1461 01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:49.000 a monster and puts people on the turf. By the way, speaking of 1462 01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:53.079 mock dress every Tuesday would end up doing this. You should join us one 1463 01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:56.760 day those who Dean and I will be doing mock draft for Detroit Lions tonight. 1464 01:34:56.800 --> 01:34:59.199 Last time I did one through thirty two. This time we'll do one 1465 01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:02.560 through seven, a live mock draft with you guys listening and obviously our inputs 1466 01:35:02.600 --> 01:35:05.439 to I'll probably give a couple guys same we've done it on this show before. 1467 01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:09.000 It help us make the picture with each your Lions. What is your 1468 01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:12.880 reaction to space mock draft? So it sounds like you guys like Kneelin and 1469 01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:15.960 it sounds like some big time scouts do as well. And I'm gonna go 1470 01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:19.000 back to the production. In four years at Western Michigan in the MAC, 1471 01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:23.079 the dude has racked up twelve and a half sacks. Are you saying that 1472 01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:27.000 he's more of a draw double team kind of get the pressures type guy, 1473 01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:30.960 Why is the production so low in the Matt Conference. If he's projected to 1474 01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:34.720 go this time twelve sax is good career career twelve sex, twelve and a 1475 01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:40.600 half career sacks. How many games started? I mean he's played in thirty 1476 01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:44.079 two, thirty two his last three years, five of his first year. 1477 01:35:44.399 --> 01:35:47.319 No, I think, uh, thirty seven total. Same way. I 1478 01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:50.159 guess Hunch is kind of coming around where you can't really have that argument. 1479 01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:54.640 But I mean Hunch went off in the Big Ten. Hunch went off of 1480 01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:57.399 the Big Ten, but it wasn't until what that last year with the two 1481 01:35:57.479 --> 01:36:00.079 years before he got hurt. Yeah, he got hurt before, So I 1482 01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:02.680 don't know get hurt both years just the one that was just a one year. 1483 01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:05.560 I can look it up real quick. But I think he got hurt 1484 01:36:05.640 --> 01:36:11.000 the year before absolutely going in his senior year and leading Michigan to the Big 1485 01:36:11.079 --> 01:36:14.279 Ten championship. But in some a situation where we kind of found Hutch this 1486 01:36:14.359 --> 01:36:16.359 year was like he's there, get these pressures, but he's never like laying 1487 01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:19.319 the sack. That's why I tell you this guy's baby Hutch where it's it's 1488 01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:26.199 very similar where it's like you just had that natural bend. Just that he's 1489 01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:29.640 got that I'm coming for you, motherfucker. That makes sense, gotcha. 1490 01:36:29.840 --> 01:36:32.680 I hope that particularly for some people, he's not like you know, he's 1491 01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:35.960 more I'm just coming to get you. Yeah, that's Nieland, but kool 1492 01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:42.399 Aid absolutely loving this one. I still want the starting cornerback to come through 1493 01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:47.600 a Stefan Gilmour type pick up for this team, and then Cooper Beabey depth 1494 01:36:47.760 --> 01:36:53.079 at guard for next year because obviously we don't know what's gonna happen in the 1495 01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:56.760 future. With obviously the new guy we brought in, he's on a one 1496 01:36:56.800 --> 01:37:00.479 year deal. So yeah, I dig it a lot. Yeah, adopt 1497 01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:02.199 that safety as well. So this sounds like kind of a depth draft. 1498 01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:05.840 Obviously kol Aid has the higher upside. Yeah, you guys think Neeland has 1499 01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:09.960 an upside, but it does seem more of a depth draft and not drafting 1500 01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:12.800 for starters. Yeah. For me, Kniela is not so much an upside 1501 01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:15.159 more so than like a piece of like to the puzzle, you know what 1502 01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:17.520 I'm saying, where he's gonna help you a couple of the guys get one 1503 01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:20.119 on one situations, and Lean McNeil again's the guy I want to point to 1504 01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:23.560 and I hope this store some confidence. And you, I know how you 1505 01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:26.640 did miss some games. But at twenty eighteen, zero sacks for him in 1506 01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:30.479 seven games thirteen games played, and twenty nineteen only three and a half. 1507 01:37:30.920 --> 01:37:33.840 Obviously got hurt. His junior year just those two games in the fourteen games, 1508 01:37:33.880 --> 01:37:38.199 fourteen sacks, so summer I'm saying only, well, actually this guy 1509 01:37:38.199 --> 01:37:42.800 did even have a breakout year. But I like Mysh Marshaw Kneland again, 1510 01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:45.319 when I look at these guys, saying the DJ reader, not a lot 1511 01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:46.920 of sack numbers, right, But it's like I'm not always looking for a 1512 01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:49.840 sack, I'm looking for a disruptor. Some other guys get the sack crazy 1513 01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:53.640 amount of tackles. Yeah, I'll tell you that. So that's good to 1514 01:37:53.680 --> 01:37:56.199 see. He had the opportunities to to move on to I think it was 1515 01:37:56.920 --> 01:38:00.319 I think it was Miami or FSU because they and they grabbed Brandon Fisk by 1516 01:38:00.359 --> 01:38:03.039 the way, he's Western Michigan guy too, went to FSU. They tried 1517 01:38:03.079 --> 01:38:06.199 to say the Marsha Kneeland, but I guess Marsha Knelan. He was at 1518 01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:09.840 to a point where he wasn't gonna play anywhere, and the Westerns the one 1519 01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:12.439 team that took a chance on him, so we wanted to stay stay put. 1520 01:38:12.479 --> 01:38:15.239 Withever a defensive coordinator, defensive line coach, end up keeping Hell yeah, 1521 01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:17.520 that's the kind of guy like, yes, well, I'm saying loyalty, 1522 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:20.520 loyalty, loyalty, as Kesul Lamar would say, how about the QB 1523 01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:26.800 Challenge. 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Wake Up Woodward Woodward Sports 1541 01:39:55.399 --> 01:39:58.760 has a new morning show. Start your day with Wake Up Woodward Monday through 1542 01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:02.000 Friday eight to ten as I'm live on Woodward Sports. Join Kool a Flannel, 1543 01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:06.399 Sam Broder, JB and KG every morning as I cover all of Detroit 1544 01:40:06.479 --> 01:40:12.840 sports, sports, banter and live fan interaction all on Detroit's number one sports 1545 01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:16.800 network, Woodward Sports. What Up To, Welcome back to what reweis, 1546 01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:18.960 Live Wordsports dot Com, em Easy, Joe, My Guy, Spin, 1547 01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:23.800 Mo, Rex, Young, Chris, Unky Nick. The show cannot go 1548 01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:28.760 on without us talking about the biggest Detroit Rebis game this season. I got 1549 01:40:28.800 --> 01:40:30.279 corrected on that. To begin the show, I said, they've been in 1550 01:40:30.279 --> 01:40:32.920 the type playoff race all season. Every game's been big. No, this 1551 01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:36.119 is the biggest. This is by far the biggest Perspinny and Nicholas call off, 1552 01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:39.520 someone let the boys cook. Yeah, it's by far the biggest game 1553 01:40:39.560 --> 01:40:42.760 of the season. You're at Washington taking on the Capitals. You are what 1554 01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.640 one point or two points ahead of Washington right now in that playoff race, 1555 01:40:46.079 --> 01:40:49.279 and they have a game in hit. So this is a game you need 1556 01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:54.039 to win if you if you want to stay in that playoff position, if 1557 01:40:54.039 --> 01:40:57.359 you want to stay in that wild card spot, if you need to win 1558 01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:00.920 this game because your road does not get any easier going down the stretch, 1559 01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:04.279 and the Capitals have a game on you, so they still have points that 1560 01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:06.680 they can bank. You need to win this game. You need to win 1561 01:41:06.720 --> 01:41:11.119 in a regulation. You cannot allow the Capitals to get a single point off 1562 01:41:11.199 --> 01:41:14.079 you. This needs to be a four point swing in the in the in 1563 01:41:14.199 --> 01:41:18.159 the standings. So this is the biggest game the Detroit Lions, the Detroit 1564 01:41:18.239 --> 01:41:23.600 Red Wings had played since they've moved to Joe Lewis or from Joe Louis Arena 1565 01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:28.840 to LCA. It is an extremely, extremely important game for the standings for 1566 01:41:28.920 --> 01:41:30.880 the playoff race, and I think the guys know that. I think they're 1567 01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:33.119 taking it seriously, and I think they're going to go out and win. 1568 01:41:34.760 --> 01:41:41.840 Yes, Speno, this game honestly scares me because it's not at LCA, 1569 01:41:42.119 --> 01:41:45.600 It's in Washington, and you think about Ov. You think about the damage 1570 01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:48.880 he's done his whole entire career there. Looking at this game, the Wings 1571 01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:53.520 are plus one to ZH six on the money line, Capitals minus one twenty 1572 01:41:53.560 --> 01:41:58.399 eight. So we're underdogs going in and Lolan's said all year Vegas doesn't like 1573 01:41:58.520 --> 01:42:01.680 us, which I'm sure glad they don't because we have picked up a lot 1574 01:42:01.760 --> 01:42:05.880 of wins as underdogs this season. And I think that you just said, 1575 01:42:05.920 --> 01:42:10.640 this is the biggest game since we've moved to LCA. But you think about 1576 01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:14.319 the kids on this roster that are now leaders on this team. You think 1577 01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:17.000 about a most Cider the biggest game of his career so far. You think 1578 01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:23.279 about a Lucas Raymond. How do they respond in this must win game on 1579 01:42:23.479 --> 01:42:27.720 the road against one of the best hockey players to ever play the game in 1580 01:42:27.840 --> 01:42:31.359 Alex Ovachkin, I'm looking forward to it. This is musty TV as a 1581 01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:36.279 Detroit Red Wings fan, and this is all we've asked for. We asked 1582 01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:40.840 for these games. We wanted to be in contention. Now we are. 1583 01:42:41.439 --> 01:42:45.560 How does this team respond? Yeah, and MPWMW says who's in net? 1584 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:48.880 I don't know if they announced it yet. I assume it's going to be 1585 01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:53.840 Alex Lyon based on the performance he had in Nashville where he held the Predators 1586 01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:57.119 to one goal, where Nashville is one of the hottest teams in the NHL, 1587 01:42:57.159 --> 01:42:59.800 and that was a great performance by him. So I assume it's going 1588 01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:03.239 to be Alex Lion in net against the Capitols in Washington. But yeah, 1589 01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:06.399 this is the most important game and you need your stars to step up. 1590 01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:10.960 I needed to break it Gold, I need it. You need to score 1591 01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:15.680 in here, Alex. He've been on a snide, a bad snide when 1592 01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:17.680 the team like you're like the Avatar, when the team needed you most, 1593 01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:21.279 you vanished, Like we need you to come back and we need you to 1594 01:43:21.319 --> 01:43:26.880 score here. It's extremely imperative. Patrick Kane needs to be Patrick Kan Dylan 1595 01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:30.399 Larkin's gonna do his thing. I'm not worried about him. Dylan Larkin's gonna 1596 01:43:30.399 --> 01:43:32.720 be that guy. But we need Patrick Kine and Alex to bring it to 1597 01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:40.479 show up in this game for sure? Is it with Lion Like? Was 1598 01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:42.920 there a fall from grace or was more so to the defense. No, 1599 01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:46.239 he's never been apart. He's never done this before. He's never been the 1600 01:43:46.319 --> 01:43:48.960 number one goalie on the team for an entire season. It was a top 1601 01:43:49.039 --> 01:43:51.720 ten guy earlily, Yeah, he got tired. Man, He's never played 1602 01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:55.640 this many games. He's never had this workload. He's never done this. 1603 01:43:56.279 --> 01:43:59.279 So playing that many games, going out there that many nights in a row, 1604 01:43:59.520 --> 01:44:02.319 it's gonna wear on you. Stopping forty shots every night is gonna wear 1605 01:44:02.359 --> 01:44:05.159 on you. And it's just he couldn't keep up that level of play because 1606 01:44:05.159 --> 01:44:10.760 he's never done it in this career. Before eleven games left in the season, 1607 01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:15.800 including tonight, how will this team respond. We've seen the sixth game 1608 01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:18.399 winning streak, We've seen the seventh game slouch, seven game losing streak, 1609 01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:24.000 and this is what it's all about. And how does lolone respond? How 1610 01:44:24.039 --> 01:44:27.840 does Patrick Kane respond? How does Dylan Larkings respond, this team just got 1611 01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:31.000 shut out in Nashville. Nashville has a great defense. They just shout out 1612 01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:35.600 Florida the day before. But this is not a Florida or this is not 1613 01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:40.920 a Nashville Predator team. No, you can score on exactly. Yeah, 1614 01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:44.159 what are your expectations going into this game? How do you think this team 1615 01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:45.920 will respond? You need to score at least throw three goals if you want 1616 01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:48.760 to win this game. In my opinion, this is a team that you 1617 01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:51.439 can score on. They're not a great defensive team. You can go out 1618 01:44:51.439 --> 01:44:55.359 there and you can put pucks in the net. I need to see a 1619 01:44:55.439 --> 01:44:59.399 playoff or a power play goal, like I said, I need to see 1620 01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:02.920 in Alex brink it goal and I expect three goals. If you score three 1621 01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:05.840 goals, you have a good chance, a very very good chance of winning 1622 01:45:05.880 --> 01:45:13.439 this game. Alex Lyon is confirmed in that on FanDuel or betting app that 1623 01:45:13.520 --> 01:45:17.239 I use over under twenty six and a half over for the saves. I 1624 01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:21.640 would take the over on that by fucking file. Yeah, this defense is 1625 01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:25.479 well love to give up shots. That is easy money. I think he's 1626 01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:30.199 oh he's over that second period like it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a 1627 01:45:30.239 --> 01:45:32.000 tough matchup, and they've got goal scorers on that team. They've got good 1628 01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:36.239 players on that front line, and so you're gonna need to be on your 1629 01:45:36.279 --> 01:45:39.399 piece of cused. Like I said, you're gonna need to score three goals 1630 01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:43.279 if you want to win this game. We've seen Alex dabrink it everywhere around 1631 01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:45.239 the net, but not in the net. Yes, you know, and 1632 01:45:45.399 --> 01:45:47.920 like you said, you need to see one from him tonight. I don't 1633 01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:53.640 want to hear a goddamn thing about him hitting the post. I don't want 1634 01:45:53.640 --> 01:45:55.840 to hear that, dang. I don't want to hear post malone. I 1635 01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:59.039 don't want to hear any of that stuff tonight. I want to hear the 1636 01:45:59.239 --> 01:46:03.600 horn. And honestly, like this is the biggest game all season, Please 1637 01:46:03.720 --> 01:46:08.600 rad Wings pick up a dub. I gotta have faith in Dylan Larkin. 1638 01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:12.279 The captain shows out tonight, even though he's battling an injury. I think 1639 01:46:12.319 --> 01:46:15.680 he comes out on fire tonight. Big time players make big time plays, 1640 01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:17.800 and that's what you brought him in to do here with score goals. Alex 1641 01:46:17.880 --> 01:46:21.560 Tobrinkott was brought here to score goals, to lead this team in goals. 1642 01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:26.000 We need him to do that. This is a must win game. If 1643 01:46:26.039 --> 01:46:30.600 you don't win this game, your chances to make the playoffs plummet. So 1644 01:46:30.920 --> 01:46:32.800 you need him here to bring it. The city of Detroit needs you. 1645 01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:34.840 The Red Wings needs you to go out there and put one in the back 1646 01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:39.119 of the net. Easy. Chris, you think the Wings are winning tonight? 1647 01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:45.399 Yeah, I'll take it. I wasn't a confident. Well, I'm 1648 01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:49.119 building parlay right now too. Oh boy, my two shots on goal they've 1649 01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:53.359 been hitting. I'm looking for a guy DNC and T He's buildings with me, 1650 01:46:54.479 --> 01:46:59.199 Larkin for sure. Two shots to go there, David? Two shots? 1651 01:46:59.319 --> 01:47:03.640 Yeah, Chris, you think they're winning the night in Washington? Easy? 1652 01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:09.800 Light, LightWork, No, no problem. It's like pushing T versus 1653 01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:15.159 Drake this easy money, take it to the bank. Can two shots? 1654 01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:21.199 Yeah? The ronan saying most Cider will score. That's extremely bold, but 1655 01:47:21.279 --> 01:47:25.039 I love it. Big player, big game, I mean biggest game of 1656 01:47:25.079 --> 01:47:30.640 most career for sure. Is right before the game starts. You can go 1657 01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:33.439 watch the new episode coming out on Spenmo. Rex beats a drops at seven 1658 01:47:33.479 --> 01:47:35.960 o'clock. Spo Rex speaks. Make sure you go check it out. Two 1659 01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:43.319 shots, three shots for Larkin, Yeah, I do three Nick two shots 1660 01:47:43.359 --> 01:47:45.239 with three shots for Larkin. I'm more of a passive. Make sure you 1661 01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:49.439 cast the bat. I would go to all right, wevekin? How crazy? 1662 01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:53.760 Gon go with that? Three? Four? Yeah? Sure four? 1663 01:47:54.039 --> 01:47:58.920 Three for sure? Raymond he's Spotty's Yeah, he got away from Raymond. 1664 01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:01.159 Don't put him in there even one Nope? Well yeah, I mean if 1665 01:48:01.199 --> 01:48:03.199 you want to choose it with one, he'll have a shot. Let's see 1666 01:48:03.199 --> 01:48:05.800 what it is, Josh b says, let's go Red Wings do it for 1667 01:48:05.960 --> 01:48:10.800 d Mac. It's true. The US game of the season comes on Turtle 1668 01:48:10.880 --> 01:48:14.000 Day, March twenty sixth. To break it. Two shots, Yes, 1669 01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:17.279 you need that spend mode. It's probably probably trolling right here, but m 1670 01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:20.760 w m u. Unfortunately the Red Wings are cooked. He is he is, 1671 01:48:21.159 --> 01:48:26.840 That's what he does. He is. Yeah. Yeah, So three 1672 01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:30.920 shots, two shots, two shots. They need to win this game. 1673 01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:32.960 You need to win this game flat out. This is a must win for 1674 01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:35.399 the Detroit Red Wings. If you want to make the playoffs, you have 1675 01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:40.920 to win this game. This should be a playoff atmosphere. Oh yeah, 1676 01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:45.159 I definitely think Siders should play twenty five plus minutes in this game. You 1677 01:48:45.279 --> 01:48:48.119 need to win this game to put I'm put Larkin for a point too, 1678 01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:53.800 market in Kane for a point. It is Larkin. I wouldn't mind that 1679 01:48:53.920 --> 01:48:58.600 larketing Kame for a point marketing game. Yea, Nicholas, I do like 1680 01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:02.520 Larkin to get one for sure. Yeah, I mean this is the Caine 1681 01:49:02.680 --> 01:49:08.319 came here for this reason. He wanted to be on a contender playing meaningful 1682 01:49:08.439 --> 01:49:11.760 games at the end of the season. Hell yeah, put down Kane for 1683 01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:14.760 a point. I'm putting them down to score one. Actually, I like 1684 01:49:14.920 --> 01:49:19.439 that even more. I'm gonna parlay caine money line. Let's go, Let's 1685 01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:24.960 go. I like it. 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Gloria's Cannabis Check us out at 1710 01:51:34.800 --> 01:51:42.359 your local retailer or glorias Canna dot com. Smash ooid buttons, mate, 1711 01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:45.399 we only have ten minutes, so you can no longer smash it smash it 1712 01:51:46.239 --> 01:51:51.800 smashing. Do you guys ever watch smashing pumpkins? Smashing pumpkins? You ever 1713 01:51:51.840 --> 01:51:59.560 watch wild thornberries? No smashing smashally like button millback segment or we got a 1714 01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:00.520 little bit of Pistons that was left in the sheet. I don't. I 1715 01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:04.079 don't have the chat in front of me right now. Email bags ready right 1716 01:52:04.159 --> 01:52:09.079 now? You want to get a basinessing out the way I'm looking at you, 1717 01:52:09.199 --> 01:52:14.399 Chris, what are we talking? Hey, breaking fixing, breaking breaking 1718 01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:19.119 news today before we like Chris Cook, I have officially not re upped my 1719 01:52:19.239 --> 01:52:25.479 season tickets for next year. The Pistons have lost me they lost a fan 1720 01:52:25.640 --> 01:52:30.319 this season, the Pistons, how do you fix them? Talk to Chris? 1721 01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:35.720 How you fixing Detroit business? Chris? One word? Oh you catched 1722 01:52:35.760 --> 01:52:40.119 it. We gonna start documenting it. The Wings win my days? You 1723 01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:44.840 cash Okay, listen, there's one word and one word only to fix this. 1724 01:52:45.960 --> 01:52:49.840 God, that's it. That's it. It's just it's just the higher 1725 01:52:49.880 --> 01:52:54.159 powers there. We need. Just all you. That's all you need. 1726 01:52:54.279 --> 01:52:57.560 Go to church every Sunday, lock and pray on your off days too, 1727 01:52:57.640 --> 01:53:00.600 man like, give give to the communion. Makes make sure you pray for 1728 01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:04.840 this pissing team, because this is a team. Man, that is just 1729 01:53:04.960 --> 01:53:09.680 so much dysfunction. We've talked about it several times on this show. I've 1730 01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:15.399 lost I've lost complete faith. Like I I love the pieces that are here 1731 01:53:15.600 --> 01:53:17.399 on the roster, but I don't believe in the coach. I don't believe 1732 01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:20.039 in the front office, and I damn sure don't believe in the ownership. 1733 01:53:20.399 --> 01:53:24.640 I was literally laying in bed last night when I was starting to feel a 1734 01:53:24.680 --> 01:53:29.159 little rough, and I was damn near on the verge of I was damn 1735 01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:31.319 near on the verge of tears thinking about like this pisson team and where it's 1736 01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:36.680 that like, it's it can get like like I imagine myself on air on 1737 01:53:36.840 --> 01:53:41.680 this show talking about the Pistons and damn near breaking into tears because it's it's 1738 01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:45.039 that. It's that way man, Like this season you can't even finish it 1739 01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:47.720 out strong, like you can't because you're shutting down players for the year. 1740 01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:51.479 Asar is a player that I believe in and I talked a lot about me 1741 01:53:51.479 --> 01:53:55.279 and you easy talked about him on the phone for half an hour last week 1742 01:53:55.359 --> 01:53:59.119 or two weeks ago. And now he's got this blood clot and you know 1743 01:53:59.279 --> 01:54:01.800 that's the thing that players can either ounce back like brandon Ingram, or it 1744 01:54:01.880 --> 01:54:05.920 can hinder your career like Chris Bosh. So it's just tough man. You're 1745 01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:11.640 you're you're trying to find the silver lining and it hurts because you finally got 1746 01:54:11.720 --> 01:54:14.760 a prospect like the guy you can actually build her out, not fucking Andre 1747 01:54:14.880 --> 01:54:18.319 Drumm at that bump. You have somebody you can build around, and you're 1748 01:54:18.359 --> 01:54:23.920 blowing it. You're flat out blowing it. So it's disheartening. Now I 1749 01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:28.159 feel you that I think where you can allow yourself or at least where you 1750 01:54:28.239 --> 01:54:30.880 can find yourself getting depressed about it for real, is like the core issues 1751 01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:36.000 with this franchise And now you say team franchise is the guy who owns the 1752 01:54:36.039 --> 01:54:40.720 fucking team exactly? How do you fix that? And you can't fire the 1753 01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:44.119 guy who owns the fucking team. You encourage him with sell, but at 1754 01:54:44.199 --> 01:54:45.960 end of the day, he makes a decision if he wants to or not. 1755 01:54:46.680 --> 01:54:50.560 They couldn't even get down sterling itself. And by the way, a 1756 01:54:50.680 --> 01:54:56.159 top of just losing every fucking year, he's only gained value in the franchise 1757 01:54:56.199 --> 01:54:58.640 when he bought it, worth like three hundred million, not worth like one 1758 01:54:58.680 --> 01:55:01.399 point something billion. Absolutely, we're gonna do what they did. Stop buying 1759 01:55:01.439 --> 01:55:06.039 tickets out and move on. Dog. That's it. I will never do 1760 01:55:06.159 --> 01:55:10.920 that. I know. Owning an NBA franchise is a license to print money. 1761 01:55:11.279 --> 01:55:15.239 Yeah, if it's up to us, like it really is, because 1762 01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:18.720 it does start and end with Tom Gorris. Is the reason this team is 1763 01:55:18.760 --> 01:55:23.920 ship is because he is the worst owner in professional sport right now. Because 1764 01:55:23.960 --> 01:55:27.720 he is the worst owner in basketball right now by far. So if you 1765 01:55:27.880 --> 01:55:31.880 want changes, stop going to games, stop buying tickets, stop buying merch 1766 01:55:32.239 --> 01:55:35.640 because that's the only way it's gonna It's only gonna affect him because you will 1767 01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:40.000 never sell. As long as they're making money. As long as they continue 1768 01:55:40.039 --> 01:55:43.239 to make money and continue to up his investment, he will never sell. 1769 01:55:43.279 --> 01:55:45.039 It's a license to print money, you know what. But the NBA will 1770 01:55:45.079 --> 01:55:49.640 interview if there's two people at games, if nobody's wearing Pistons jerseys, if 1771 01:55:49.720 --> 01:55:55.119 nobody's talking about them, the NBA will interview. So that's the only way, 1772 01:55:55.199 --> 01:55:58.680 because I mean they because Tom Gorris is by far the worst owner in 1773 01:55:58.800 --> 01:56:03.840 basketball. That's why I'll say this. And I think we don't talk about 1774 01:56:03.880 --> 01:56:08.000 him because there's nothing to talk about. It is truly because we're like, 1775 01:56:08.279 --> 01:56:10.359 yes, is our job to talk sports, But like as Chris said, 1776 01:56:10.399 --> 01:56:14.039 it's depressing, like it makes ruins my day. And I think you guys 1777 01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:15.199 have caught it. Every single time we have talked about him. It gets 1778 01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:17.760 pretty passionate here. Guys get to yell and get the streaming about it. 1779 01:56:17.960 --> 01:56:19.920 We get to argue with each other over it, and there's nothing wrong with 1780 01:56:19.960 --> 01:56:21.920 that. We should be arguing for sports that I think that's what that's what 1781 01:56:21.960 --> 01:56:25.680 I love about sports, Arguing with the motherfucker and being right all time. 1782 01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:30.000 God damn but lost. But with this guy, we have to, I 1783 01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:33.880 guess talk about it because he did show some shame when he put out the 1784 01:56:33.960 --> 01:56:40.039 James Edwards interview on Christmas Eve like he oh, I do philanthropy, blah 1785 01:56:40.039 --> 01:56:44.680 blah blah, Like obviously there's enough from you guys that do go sell a 1786 01:56:44.720 --> 01:56:48.960 team chance all the way every fucking quarter. If you do go sell a 1787 01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:53.680 team chance, if you know someone going sell a team chance, we have 1788 01:56:53.840 --> 01:56:58.159 to embarrass him. It's either making the proper changes or putting the proper decisions 1789 01:56:58.159 --> 01:57:01.560 to the proper hands, or selling the fucking team because he feels a shame. 1790 01:57:01.800 --> 01:57:05.720 The James Edwards interview on Christmas Eve showed that we could shame him and 1791 01:57:05.920 --> 01:57:09.279 make it some type of change. Man. We just have to keep going 1792 01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:14.439 at him and don't fucking Troy Weaver, fuck Monty go at Gors. That's 1793 01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:16.720 the guy we need to be calling out. Go at Gors because he's been 1794 01:57:16.800 --> 01:57:21.319 here, Town's been here the longest it's been he has five of the worst 1795 01:57:21.319 --> 01:57:26.279 He's gonna end up having five of the worst Pisson seasons of franchise history, 1796 01:57:26.520 --> 01:57:29.920 and this year he's closing down the worst season of franchise history, the ten 1797 01:57:30.039 --> 01:57:32.880 worst records and Piston his history. This guy's responsible for five of them. 1798 01:57:33.279 --> 01:57:36.079 At the end of this season. He is the guy we need a bitch 1799 01:57:36.119 --> 01:57:41.600 at again. Fuck Monty, fuck Weaver. Whatever happens with them, happens 1800 01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:45.600 with the guy we need embarrassed is fucking Tom Gors. I'm in a tough 1801 01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:49.840 spot because I'm I have tickets that I that I got at the very beginning 1802 01:57:49.840 --> 01:57:55.119 of the year that were redeemed for this game April first against the Charlotte Hornets, 1803 01:57:55.640 --> 01:58:00.279 and I'm in I'm in pain because you know I'm going with I'm a 1804 01:58:00.319 --> 01:58:01.800 great company. I'm going with great company. I'm excited to take it. 1805 01:58:02.079 --> 01:58:05.199 I took her to the last game, she loved it, and I want 1806 01:58:05.239 --> 01:58:10.039 to go. I want to go again. But it's like it's it's like, 1807 01:58:10.239 --> 01:58:14.159 you're right, I don't want to support Biger a couple of weeks saying 1808 01:58:14.239 --> 01:58:15.319 I said, just wait, take her to a Tiger's game in a couple 1809 01:58:15.359 --> 01:58:19.000 of weeks. Chris, you do have to go, and you do have 1810 01:58:19.199 --> 01:58:23.720 to just completely. I liked what Easy said, say you sell the team. 1811 01:58:23.880 --> 01:58:26.000 I mean when I when I made out the tweet, this morning, 1812 01:58:26.119 --> 01:58:29.640 I said, a whole lot of things are the reason why I am giving 1813 01:58:29.720 --> 01:58:32.039 up the season tickets, but the biggest one fifty two and one hundred and 1814 01:58:32.079 --> 01:58:38.680 eighty four since we drafted Kate Cunningham Fellas. That is the worst winning percentage 1815 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:44.479 of any team in any sport in the last three seasons. This is the 1816 01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:49.600 worst franchise in all of franchises when it comes to sports, your top your 1817 01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:55.159 Big four sports. This there's no excuse. This used to be a proud 1818 01:58:55.239 --> 01:58:59.760 franchise. It is no longer. I hope every single fan does what I 1819 01:58:59.800 --> 01:59:03.880 did today, days does oh my god, I'm fired up, sells the 1820 01:59:04.199 --> 01:59:09.680 f thing tickets because there is no excuse for a Pistons franchise to be this 1821 01:59:09.880 --> 01:59:14.119 bad, or any Detroit and any sports franchise to be this guy damn back 1822 01:59:14.239 --> 01:59:16.039 getting worked out, man, I'm sorry. I did it a couple of 1823 01:59:16.039 --> 01:59:18.359 months ago. It's not even worth it anymore. They don't give a shit 1824 01:59:18.359 --> 01:59:20.720 about us, They don't give a shit about getting a giving out a good 1825 01:59:20.720 --> 01:59:25.039 product. Fuck them like, I'm over it. The Pistons be nothing to 1826 01:59:25.079 --> 01:59:29.199 me right now because it starts with the fucking ownership and it's embarrassing that they 1827 01:59:29.239 --> 01:59:31.000 don't care. I know the players care. None of this is on the 1828 01:59:31.039 --> 01:59:34.560 players. It's it's some of it is on the players. In my eyes, 1829 01:59:34.680 --> 01:59:40.199 it takes some pride the man. They gotta take pride and win some 1830 01:59:40.359 --> 01:59:46.880 fucking games. How with what California to take pride now? When we're tanking 1831 01:59:46.960 --> 01:59:51.239 clearly like we are right now, I'm saying during the spree, I'm saying, 1832 01:59:51.239 --> 01:59:56.159 the twenty eight game losing streak, that's gotta be something on the players. 1833 01:59:56.239 --> 01:59:59.800 You can't fucking allow it to happen. Well, there's there's the part 1834 01:59:59.840 --> 02:00:05.359 of the to those like you have mounting these bullshit fucking lineups and a team 1835 02:00:05.399 --> 02:00:10.079 that that needs the wins, not only just like to avoid the fucking depression 1836 02:00:10.119 --> 02:00:13.159 of the fan base and just embarrassing yourself as a franchise and coaching players, 1837 02:00:13.239 --> 02:00:15.279 a team that needs the wins because Kate cunninghamers, you have to get w's 1838 02:00:15.359 --> 02:00:17.439 yet, Jay and Ivies you have to get ws at Ja Dery, you 1839 02:00:17.479 --> 02:00:20.199 had to get ws yet. You don't want them to lose their focus to 1840 02:00:20.239 --> 02:00:23.239 get used to this either. You need the wins more than anything. And 1841 02:00:23.319 --> 02:00:27.640 here he is close games all bench lineup for the it doesn't matter. I 1842 02:00:27.680 --> 02:00:30.239 mean, at this point, no matter either way. They're not playing any 1843 02:00:30.840 --> 02:00:35.239 dead. The team is dead. I doubt any of these players re signed, 1844 02:00:35.520 --> 02:00:39.439 Like, yeah, it's cool to have them, Now watch them. 1845 02:00:39.479 --> 02:00:43.680 Mike can't. Nobody's coming, nobody's staying, nobody wants to play for the 1846 02:00:43.720 --> 02:00:48.119 Pistons. They're fucking trash. That'll do it for us today. Appreciate you 1847 02:00:48.159 --> 02:00:54.119 all tapping in. Spend more Rex speaks new episode, dropping out pick for 1848 02:00:55.880 --> 02:01:00.479 Ingram and some Nick or Chris. I'm Spencer. It doesn't matter who they 1849 02:01:00.520 --> 02:01:02.079 trade or who they bring in. The system is garbage. The team is 1850 02:01:02.159 --> 02:01:05.720 garbage, and the organization is garbage. Because the garbage, it will never 1851 02:01:05.800 --> 02:01:09.600 get better. As long as Tom Gorse owns this, We'll see you guys 1852 02:01:09.680 --> 02:01:12.239 later. Peace sell the team, Tom,