I'm okay. I just smiled. Am another to in the face. Yeah,
she want to stay singing to your beach. That guy with drake don't
decide to tell me you mom, you can't keep it. Really, if
you really don't trust me, you come with a real you get up in
the front so you get my meals. I'm conning for the money, money
in the bank. Come on with a tank, scrolling that tank rolling with
the gang. You're sitting on the side of the triple. I go to
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Happy Turtle Day, Happy Turtle Day. Dan McCarty and every Detroit Red Wings
fan listening across the world. Uh, Dan McCarty, If guys an't familiar.
I mean, you guys gotta know by now a lot of guys watched
all the shows about the day. This is the day Dan McCarty fully clawed
the mute yep, and I put it on my cause I put on my
Instagram story. But just goes so much deeper than like, yeah, he
beat up the guy who injured his teammate because thought was also a bad motherfucker
at the time. Yeah, and the Avalanche had the Red Wings number.
They had beaten them multiple times. The Red Wings were one of the best
teams in the league, but so were the Avalanche, and the Red Wings
could never get past them. That was always the big bed for them.
And obviously Claude you know, boarded Draper and then sliced his face up,
scarred him for life, and that was something that they took the heart and
dmack talked about it today. How the guy who started the fun, the
guy who started everything was Igor Lariano. Yeah, a guy who's like five
to six, one hundred and fifty pounds, grabs Forstburg and gets into a
fight with him, and then so d Mack knew it was game time.
After he saw Ariano throwing punches, he knew it was game time. He
turns around, he's looking for Claude Lemieux and Foot grabs him and puts him
a big ass dude, he got six y three just behem, A strong
guy is holding dmac back so he can't get to Claude Lemieux. So Shanahan
comes up to Foot gives him a two arms shiver to break his grip off
of dmc. Demack gets loose. The rest is history, and it's just
awesome to see dmac talk about it every year. He teared up. He
teared up because that's like, that's more than just his teammate. It's more
than him and Draper are best friends. They're still best friends, and they've
been best friends for a long time. So that's just an awesome situation.
Hockey justice. And then of course they come back from down two goals in
that game, and guess who gets the game winner. Darren McCarty, who
shouldn't have been in the game, man should not have been playing. He
got He didn't even get a fighting penalty. He didn't even get a five
minute major. He got two minors for roughing as he need fucking mew in
that head like it's it's just an amazing story. Obviously, hockey gods shined
upon us because Demat gets the game winning goal in that from Shanahan. Yeah,
and Larry onov like, it's just the perfect scenario that that line was
the line in overtime to finish it off. It's just like hockey is such
a beautiful sport because things like that happen. And then obviously we know the
rest is history. They ended up overcoming Colorado going on to win for Stanley
Cups. Darren McCarty is cemented as one of the biggest legends in the history
of Detroit sports. And now that's one of the biggest rivalries. Well for
us, it's gotta be the same way for them to write Avalanche fans the
Red Wings. Yeah, I love that and speak of like you said,
like all time hockey or just the sport of hockey like NBA. You can
hardly even sneeze on like a superstar player like Claude lemw was one of one
of the guys yes in the league at the time. Yes he was.
Jam mccardi got the bull him, remained in the game and as the Aventure
said too for the game winning goal and he says it all the time.
We call it turtle Day, but it's not really. It wasn't really a
turtle. Like a turtle is when you give up in a fight and you
fall on the ground and you give up because you're losing. The hockey God
says, that's the hardest he's been hit in his entire life. And he
was knocked out like d Mac knocked him out one punch and so he fell
into the ground like it's just d Mac being the being the goat man truly
is the goat. Also, Happy birthday to Jamison Williams. Some exciting news
on his birthday, i'd assume, So we'll talk about that in this first
segment Today show. Lots of things changing around the NFL, more rule changes.
We'll get to that, but before any of that, we gotta give
you some bs. That's what we're do. In his opening segments, we
joked about the Diddy stuff. Little did we know it really wasn't a joking
matter. This guy is three homes. I would say, three homes got
rated by the FBI yesterday. I think, Miami, I don't know what
the other you're breaking in that, would you say? I said, La
Miami I don't know if there was a third I know he was taking the
jet, like is that party? Did he really flee? They can't confirm
though that he's on the jet, but there was a jet heading to an
area that was extradited. But the problem is the jet was coming from la
and he there was footage of him in Miami while his homes were getting raided.
So I don't know. I I truly don't know. There's been people
trying to figure out. Apparently the same detective, the same great detective who
tracked all of Taylor Swiss fights, that's on this case. So I'm sure
we're going to get answered. Yeah that, I mean, we joked about
it. No Dinny Diddler to put he gonna the Riddler's uniform. They have
other question marks, lots of questions, but a lot of questions could be
answered. It's like did he r Kelly? It's you know, it's situational
with these guys. Is it's tough man tough. It's just whatever I want
to have to get wasn't lying about that? It's not. Also, he
sold all his Revolt stock and everything, so he's completely away from that company
and totally dissociated with the Revolt Company started. So your Mike's messing up.
It's messing up. Yeah, I try to un it's just my headphones or
not maybe like from here, Yeah, because it was it. Uh.
I don't know the name of this guy from like the seventies, eighties and
something like that too. He's a famous uh film producer, Roman Lansky or
Roman, I don't know whatever it's. I can't think of the name of
the guy who Sharon Tate or Shannon Tate was his wife, Roman Plans Roman.
Yeah, similar thing. Uh, obviously different accusations out of that situation,
like that was more towards children or whatnot? Did he actually this one
don't know hasn't been on FROW. But the only reason why it's a thing
today, well first it's just crazy to begin with, naxtly, and that's
the only reason is how insane, Like you hear these things all the time,
like when Kanye says it and your Drink Champions podcasts or Kat Williams goes
and says it on Shannon Shark's podcast used Diddy's names specifically in both scenarios.
Yeah, and you're just like these guys just crazy guys, Like they're just
talking about crazy spirit. It's real. Normally the people who are talking crazy
about Hollywood situations, or it sounds like they're talking crazy some of the most
of the times they're telling the truth, they just get made out to look
crazy by the people they're talking about. How many times you heard these kind
of stories, you just you're quick to dismiss them. And that's why it
come to yesterday too with the rule change the NFL is for player safety.
Player safety, my asshole, this is for fantasy football and parlay, yes,
and or a wait for reps to easily decide or I guess have more
of an impact on the oulcome of games. Again that phils It sounds crazy,
but how many times we're saying, like shit's crazy and we're watching it
like go down, yeah, and like this day and there too. I
remember the memes of of Stephen Hawking that took off for a while, but
yeah, he was actually there, like he was on the flight log man.
Stephen Hawking was an Epsteiner, Like I don't know, man, I
try to stay away from that ship because that's a life that yeah, I
would never be involved in it. It's disgusting behavior in me, But yeah,
I just know what something we talked about on the show. So a
little bit of an update on and I guess, and that Hollywood crazy bro
stuff is looking like it's more true than not. There was also is my
mic good now? Yeah? Fund of good? Okay, far so good.
There's also some Syracuse basketball player that's allegedly been arrested as a drug deal
in the in the Diddy case. He's like, I'll get his name in
second. I think it's Brandon Paul if I'm not mistaken, but he's been
arrested in the raid. So it was a Syracuse basketball player. Well,
probably keep guys up there on that randomly route, uh, throughout the month
until that gets closed up whatever, But uh, I guess moving on the
more sports stuff. And I meant to this one yesterday. I don't know
what we got into. It passed us. But the head coaching all the
coaches in the NFL h met up again in Florida. Do you have this
picture, Chris? I know some of a couple of segments ago, like
a couple of days ago. You can grab a psycle. You don't got
it all the coaches together? Yeah, oh yep, I got it actually
right. And last year or like the past few years since the arrival of
Dan Campbell sparked up the conversation who wins the head coach battle royal? Yes,
because I'm gonna be honest with he spinny, I don't think he's number
one anyfore, Okay, that's what I say. Yeahause before it was Dan
Campbell easily, no questions about it. There's these guys Antonio, Piers,
Demico, Ryan's like, yeah, the dogs. He's pretty big too as
he tall ship. Uh, who's the guy Sola Jonathan Gannon, No,
put that thing back up. Jonathan Gannon all the way the right. I
didn't even think of him as the time. He's looking prett Jack Nick picture
too, all the way in the right bottom right. He's been bulking for
this picture to see. They hear these conversations. They're sick of being told
the Dan Campbell bully him and beat the Dan Campbell beating the ship out of
anybody except for Tonio Peers. Yeah, because you go to Antonio Peers side
and like similar situations Dan Dan Campbell getting older to and Tonio Peers, I
believe a little bit younger, maybe the same age, well like Tony Pierce,
sure, barely fitting them too, just as wide as well. And
you know a linebackers. Linebackers are tight. Ends are the linebackers. They
offer the same thing, the crazy on the crazy. I guess you can
fit full backers, full back full backers, full backs in there too.
Antonio Pierce is a problem, Damiko Ryans would be a problem. And Rob
Salla is looking even more Jack. So you know what, who would should
be in the conversation doesn't look nearly as Jack because he's kind of looking pudgy.
He heavyweight shot to him though. Gerd Mayo, Yeah, but he
don't look the part as of a bad ass at the very least. Brian
Dalbill looked like the most least intimidating man. And I'm dam well, Mike,
Mike McDaniel, I'd probably take damble over Mike McDaniel, Sean McVay looking
god Jack, Mike McDonald looking god Jack. I mean, even Kyle Shannon
doesn't. They they knew, they knew, they knew what it was.
They went to Taylor's. They found shirts that fit you'll pretty tight around that
bicep for this very photo. Dan Campbell's still top five, Top two,
oh for sure, Top three, top three for sure. Yeah, like
I said, you gotta put uh, you gotta put Antonio Pierce in there.
My top three in no order would be Antonio Pierce, Stimiko Ryans,
and Dan Campbell. That's fair. You know who. Like not in this
picture per se, but I did see one of him shot our guys from
low km's podcast. They went out to dinner with Todd Bowles and Jason Light.
Yeah he's look a pre jack net but not in this one like I
said, but normally typically he's as a pre jack guy. And another update
real quick. I wish I actually cut the video part of it, but
Dan Campbell didn't mention it just because we were out the uh the Hinden Hooker
stuff. Yes to say, I want to give you guy an update.
The Dan Campbell did still still say today that a'mora and Jared goffire priorities.
Uh, there's nothing he's coming with speaking with, but there's definitely stuff they
want to get done. Yeah, a little update on that thing. Don't
know what's gonna go down with it. I still I'm gonna be stubborn to
stick to my guns, just because that way I could say I was right
if it happens. But if I'm wrong in that one, don't. Yeah,
And that's what we're doing the beginning of the show, right because people
are just now filing in. I could say I already got I already said
it. You want to hear it rewinded? What is he gonna say?
No, we're not planning on resigning this guy. That's facts too. That's
that's a very good point. And by the way, too, when I
say that, I don't, I don't mean it as like moving on from
Jared goff onto hidden Hooker that I'm trying to move on from Jared goff On
and Hooker. I'm just saying that's probably the reason why this is taking a
little bit so long, just because they have that contingency planning hind Hooker and
they may want to see it. What he is Miton made says Hardball crazy
enough to beat them all. Dan Campbell would have obliterated Jim Harball. I
put Jim Harbaugh top ten. He's so I go bath Bro, but I've
got to meet on multiple occasions. Od guy. He's a psycho piece.
He's a weird guy. Yes, he's a weird guy. Alter, I
mean he's beating like like McDaniel and Sean McVay and Brian Dable. I'll get
him modes for sure, but he's not hanging with the heavyweights. What do
you guys think about the top five in the chat? I'm curious, Yeah,
put it in the chat. What do you guys think about Jim hyping
up JJ like crazy so he hopefully gets drafted, you know, in front
of him. What do you think he's I mean, I think that's why
he's doing it so teams can move up in front of him so he gets
to draft who he wants. There's this guy, there's a literal quote from
Jim Harbaugh say I'm so excited for this quarterback run because the draft starts at
pick number five. Yeah, truly, that's a quote. Yeah, it's
I mean, that's obviously don't have it right in front of me, but
yeah, he he made mention of like, yeah, I'm excited about the
quarterbacks at the top of this draft. I think it's like in connection with
the same statement he made about JJ, just because yeah, that allows more
other people to push down it to where he's gonna be at, which,
by the way, I still think they might trade back raise the sales says
hardball and start biting or some ship. He would definitely be he'd be grinding.
I mean, he's a crazy he's a crazy person for s Like I
said, I'll give him the easy one like Sean McVay and and Kyle shanahan
and and Brian Dabble and Mike McDaniel. I'll take Jim over those guys.
But he's not hanging with Demiko Ryans or Antonio Pierce or Dan Campbell. Can
you put it up? Where's Demiko Ryan's in? This? One's got Let
me let me uh, Rob Sala? Rob Sala's looking Jack as well?
O. Ryans is all the way left. No, he's in the middle.
No, that's right next to Let me rewind this on my computer so
I can see it. Zooman on Chris middle. You said, yeah,
m on the black guys in the middle. Yeah, Demiko Ryans is in
between. Who's that on the other side of Demiko Rans. I don't even
know who that is. It looks like Shane looks like stick. Wait a
second, who is that's Shane Steichen in between KOs and Demiko Ryans? Yeah?
Yeah, because that's tall ship he is. My real question is Who's
next to Dave Canallis? Who is that Dan canalls Who's Dan Dave Canos?
The guy next to Andy Reid? The young damn dude theceers'll see. I
don't know because I thought this is between Dan can Allis and Sem Payton.
Is that Sean Sean Payton's next to Kevin Stefanski. John Payton's in the black
with the hat. I'm pretty sure that's Sean Payton. Are you talking about
the Are you talking about the guy next to Sean Payton? Yes? Yeah,
No? Who is he? The guy that I hired? It?
Uh? Is the Titans new head coach? Could be the Titans new head
coach? Okay Jim coming with a weapon, m J Jim will probably bring
a tire iron or something like I said, Jim Jim could beat Definitely a
lot of those coaches. I would take Jim on him, but not the
Heavyweight's not the heavy mateback Rob Sola, Dan Campbell, Antonio, Pierce,
Dimigo, Ryans. I know we're over. It's one more time, Chris
apologize. Who's next to Dang Cam? Who's that? I don't know it's
I literally got assumed I'd have no clues. Next to Dank came between Drive
Mayo and Dan. Maybe that shamesite. I don't look up the new coaching
hires. Yeah, chat, help us out, help us out, Chack.
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Thomas is not of all the of all the Christophers you can compare me to,
that might be one of the most offensive. It's up there, all
right. Sure you know the Christopher Wallace. Hey, shut up? Do
you have a lazy yet? Hey? We we saw a vacation. We
called him old Tony two eyes, craziest eyes I've never He was looking everywhere
everywhere. He was standing over my friend. He was staying over my friend
just like walked up to us. And why was he standing over I don't
know. He was letting, getting up forgetting like his chat stick or whatever.
And I turned to him and I say, don't move. I think
he hasn't seen us yet because all over the they started laughing, probably while
he was standing over him. Dude, that ship was That ship was weird.
All right, we're gonna get in the show. I send it right,
Caleb Williams one did jump? Yeah, I got a three km You
want volume or no, no, no value? Just okay? Got you
saw talk about your face? Nick? I don't have you seen this?
I don't know what it is. Yeah, this future Chicago Bears quarterback Caleb
Williams at the Females basketball game hitting that dance in which whatever, you know,
that's that's a normal dance. But let it, let it loop one
more time, Chris, and just pause it right here too late. Yes,
we go back. I just I don't care. By the way,
again, I'm rooting for the chaos, but there's just narratives. Don't know
if he's like just trolling us. Ready play pause. You want to be
a little clear, But it don't matter if not pink the pink iPhone,
I don't care about. Yeah, paint and nails, the nails. We
know that he does pink wallt as well. The wallet one, and that's
like a staple of like the keychain, the wallet with the keychain and the
little strap on it. Yeah, it's staple of Lady Jane's women. Staple
of Lady Jane's women. It's uh, well he's a killer bro, that's
dude, can still ball. I'm not worried. But the wallet one,
Yeah, that's the only one. I was like, well, come on,
all coupled with the dance, like we know he paints his nails.
I don't care about that. We've been wearing. You can have a pink
phone. That doesn't nothing, nothing wrong about it. A lot of people
say he's wearing lipstick as well. No, that's just that's just the filter.
Yeah, filter. Well, it's like because I saw the video that's
more clear than that, like of the actual broadcast. Okay, and it's
no, he's like yeah, someone was like he's wearing I don't think he's
wearing bows anyway, he's not. Yeah. And by the way, Steve
Wild like we he's a baddie, says d C. No, he was
not wearing lipstick because I saw the actual game a picture of how he's gonna
look on Draft night. You know this one, this is Williams can understand,
you know what. Let me hit that And honestly, bro again,
I'm rooting for chaos. I don't care whether he is or isn't what people
are suspecting. I'd rather him be it so we could just watch the world
melt, watch the ex It's all that matters is if you can ball or
if you can't ball, and he can ball for sure, absolutely, And
like I said, you have a pink phone, don't care about that.
You can do your dance doing at paint nails. I personally would never do
it, but the kids are doing it nowadays for something. Sure, the
wallet one is the one that got me because that's like, literally I imagined
my past like six encounters of sexual nature and they all have that kind of
one. Yeah, with the keychain on it. Yeah, yes, that's
Aunty Diary's number one. If I've ever seen for sure one three. Kurt
said he's future. H O G was it? What do you think all
of game? Yeah? All of game? Connect the dots. I mean,
I'll let you tell you during the break or someone put in the chat
he could ballo you ever see his fall through? Yeah? Yeah, but
that doesn't mean why is it hall of or whatever. Listen, God's great.
I don't care if I'm in sales and the duke can ball and that's
all. I don't care if you paint your nails. I don't care if
you've got a pink phone case. I don't care if you do your little
dancy dance on TikTok. As long as you go out there and give me
four hund and fifty passing yards three touchdowns, you can do whatever the fuck
you want. Absolutely, and I think that, like honestly, would be
kind of cool to have like some representation for those people, because I guess
it's not just like regular players, not Michael Sam going out there. I
don't know how. I don't know how to word this guy. I'm sorry,
I don't know how to navigate the conversation. I think it would be
cool. This is a tough area to navigate because he really is I don't
know whether he what he what he does in his spare time. I gotta
take Michael Sam's brow. But I'm just saying it's more than a Michael Sam
though, because this kid getting ball like Caleb Williams is legit. Yes he's
a dog. Okay, I'm not reading that, Shane Shane d But that's
really funny. What are you saying. I'm not that's they're trying to cancel
us in the chat right now. I'm a crazy one that I can't stay
on there. Yeah, but I'll say it. I'll say it during the
break. But like I said, do whatever the fuck you want, as
long as it's not against the law or I don't know, people some didty
ship like, as long as it's not that you would do whatever you want,
as long as you show up on Sunday and go crazy. And I'm
not judging exactly. Yes, I do believe this kid is gonna be different.
Like I have watched a lot of I've watched a lot of his game
tape. The man is a dog, So I paint nails, have a
pig phone, do whatever they want. I don't really as long as,
like I said, you go out there and you ball on Sundays, that's
all that matters. Don't call him a dog, call him a bad bitch.
Oh my god, Yeah, I hope he Uh. The only thing
that I care about Caleb Williams is that he does not do good on Sundays
because he's gonna be in a Bear's uniform. I hope this guy completely sucks.
I obvious the next Bears bad quarterback that was a terrible uh draft prospect
honestly, or a terrible pick out of the Bears organization. I hope he
stinks on Sundays and the Bears have to draft another one the next save your
d said he's a gen Z kid. Get used to it that That is
a good point. It's like gen Z. There's that one kid from Duke
Detroit. One kid from Duke the freshman that's going crazy and then turn around
he paints his nails, he does tiktoks of the games listen. Because it's
such like a masculine sport. I would love for the world to be flipped
on his head. Yeah, especially if being good. Now I'm kind of
with Nick Karl Anthony Towns out there, like yeah, but Karl Anthony Towns
is like he's in the nial he's hide what what this he's not? I
mean, we're tiptoeing a lie, you see the Comic Detroit Sports team.
No, like we can't read any of these We can't read any of these
comments. You cannot read any of these comments. Again, rooting for the
world to be flipped on its head. Like I said, I don't care
what the fuck you do, what you do in your free time. As
long as you show up and you ball, that's all the matters. It's
such an underdog like scenario to like if he does in a ball because like
I don't know, man, everyone he is or would be hypothetically like everything
you you get made fun of when you do play that sport, you know,
like if you hit softly or whatever, like, oh, you're a
you know whatever. But he plays like a dog exactly puts his shoulder.
Imagine getting truck stick by a dude with pink nail polish, just like,
oh damn. Like he goes to help you up, but you just see
the pink nail polish and your fucking two hundred and fifty pound linebackers just like,
damn, we gotta get all this, man, I'm gonna get canceled.
So many funny things. He is the best quarterback prospect to come out
since Trevor far Yeah, maybe better than try to better. He's a better
prospect. So yeah, I mean he is typically like a camp Mes guy
here, but I don't know, and I think he's going to be a
dog like he is. Like I said, I watched a lot of his
film, a lot of his games because they're electric, and he would he's
undefeated in college when his defense lets up less than thirty two points. Yeah,
so like everybody want to say, oh, he can't win big games,
Well, he has historically one of the worst defenses in college. Like
ever, like his defense always feels him And I'm not saying, you know,
twelve or less points thirty two or less points and he didn't lose a
game in college like that is extremely impressive. And I'm blessed enough to know
some people that are in the loops of certain things that get to have conversations
with Caleb Williams, with people around Caleb Williams and everything like that. We
question him about because you can't question ability. Yeah, I mean I guess
you could. Well, I want to see it for sure. But like
he's still a really great lead in the locker room, like he is still
like very much a team guy. Sure, like he's not I mean maybe
he isn't. We're just the old guys. We're the old guys. These
are this is the young guys exactly, Like this is gen Z, the
ship that we used to get away with and say in high school of middle
school. That ship doesn't fly no more like gen Z either. It's different.
It's a new era Man and the kid kick and fucking ball. So
absolutely, I would one thousand and one million percent, no doubt in my
mind draft him at number one overall if I was any team, Like absolutely,
he's by far the best prospect in this draft, the only person on
a per prospect basis that might be better than him. Is Marvin Harrison Junior.
Yeah, that's per prospect like yeah, position value wise though, that's
why he's gonna be the number one overall pick the matter who is there your
selection? You're telling me you would draft him over JJ McCarthy, Yeah,
ten times out of It is a new era of football, and so much
so they're changing the new kickoffs. We'll talk about that when we get back,
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damn younger here, younger here. Even though it's only fucking six years
younger than me, it's still two thousands. Wow. We were literally born.
And I know they made this joke on joyk and I guess Knel used
to make this joke all the time, born in the late nineteen hundreds,
like we were literally born, Yeah, in the late nineteen hundreds, we
could say that, actually you were born two thousand and two. Fuck no,
dude, we judge those people ninety eight, ninety eight, shout out,
Yeah, I got I'm two years of yeah, two years of Yeah,
you're two years younger. I judged the two thousands babies. Still a
way, we're talking about the game's changing, right, Caleb william is gonna
be one of the better quarterbacks in the league or projected to be that.
It's also changing in terms of like quite literally no more hip drop tackles.
And now they officially changed the kick return in the NFL. I don't know
if you want to put up one of these graphics, Chris, and I
guess I'll do like a brief actually watch the phone one or just the put
the one with the xes the ex knows, because I think it's better for
me at least. I mean, you can do both of them, really,
but so essentially the kicking team will still kick from the thirty five yard
line, but the players on the kicking team will line up on the opponent's
forty. Those players cannot move into the ball is either caught or touched back,
and touchback now has to be in the end zone. Yes, they
can still receive the ball out of the end zone, move forward, talking
about the returners if they'd like to. However, it's only touch back if
it goes to the in zone. So so no more touchbacks. Twenty three
had the most touchbacks in NFL history. The kickoff miant nothing, It was
just a ceremonial thing at this point. Like this helps it too. So
the setup zone is where nine of our players I guess not the receiving team
will line up and then you have two returners. And this is where the
conversation turns for me and where I get excited. Actually, that's send the
video of the XFL one. That's fault if I didn't. If you watch
the XFL, that's what it's gonna be. I will sent that XFL rules,
which is something that the Lions could take advantage of. Us take advantage
of because that means the kickoff team can't get a running head start. They
have to wait until the player catches the ball and they're only five yards in
front of the returning front wall. So imagine Jamison Williams or Jamier Gibbs with
the ball in their hands and all those people in front of them. Those
guys in the open field are so elusive and so disgusting that it's gonna be
hard to guard them. I doubt they make I doubt they do that.
I doubt they have Jmo or Jamier Gibbs back there. No, why would
it. No, they're gonna do it. One of those twos gonna be
back there. Bro, you think so due, how do you not?
These guys an't play makers. I think this is phenomenal news for Detroit Lions
fans, and it's phenomenals for just football in general, because again, the
kickoff became a whole nothing to kickoff in the xf This is the XFL rules.
This is what the XFL did their kickoffs, and it's dope. Like
I watched some XFL games last year, and the kickoff is fun to watch.
It's explosive. Things actually happen, So this is gonna be really cool
to watch. In uh, in the NFL, the return possibilities are gonna
be disgusting and more specifically for the teams too. I saw Connor put it
out there for Bryce Hall or Breese Hall for us. Like you said,
Jamiir Gibs, Jamison Williams dogs super fast, guys can make moves in limited
space. I mean you saw jam would do it against the differ Broncos.
He kicked return in Alabama for just that one year, only one year kick
returns, by the way. He probably did in high school, but he
didn't do it at I forgot where Ohio State is. Somebody did at Alabama
and just twenty twenty one, Jamison Wims had a stature somewhere a thousand let
me find it. I lost it. Oh one thousand and fifty two yards.
That's actually Jamiers. I apologize. Jama three undred fifty two yards and
two touchdowns and only ten kick returns at Alabama ten just ten, two touchdowns
out of ten and three at freet two yards. That guy obviously has kick
returning mobility. You're gonna put a wall in front of them on top of
that. I mean, look at what we did and just playoff game all
the times stout last year with Jameson Williams. He's cutting those things up just
a few blocks and he's in there for a touchdown. You got that going
to also look at this six ship. Yeah that was a handoff. I'm
the kick return. Yeah you also Jamior Gibbs is nasty and up the field
two. This is uh who said it though? Jamir Gibbs, by the
way, that was a guy who had one fifty two yards and what touched
out and forty four kick returns. And in his cleegire, just a fan
makes a good point. He says, all kicks will be through the end
zone now if they wanted to. But if I see Jameson Williams or Jamior
Gibbs lined up back there for us, I'm putting it through that there.
I Am not taking the chance of either of those guys getting their hands on
it. Yeah. So basically, and he kicked that short of the landing
zone. The receiving team gets the ball on the forty and he kicked that
hits the end zone as down as a touchback that's received at the thirty and
he kicked that goes out of the back the end zone is also a touchback
received at the thirty. Great point by just a fan, because yeah,
they probably would. It's kind of almost I mean maybe at the seat a
few times, but Devin Hester rules probably for if you have Jameson Williams or
Jamior Gibbs back there, going to return one of these, you put that
bitch out the back of the end zone by twenty yards, don't even mess
around. But it's just it's it's filthy beyond just those two names. Because
the other piece, and this is get another visual representation of like how it's
gonna look. These were these were fire absolutely again jam Devis and Jamel Jameil's
going right there. There's like a few more blocks. And here's a part
of it too, the beautiful part of it. This Obviously he's been a
thing with the XFL, but there's been multiple special team coordinators who kind of
like and our guy. I can't think of his name right now, apologize.
I think he's the best special team coach in the game. I can't
even think of his name, so disrespectful. I probably got in the sheet
somewhere de tro line special team coach. Oh Dave Pip Yeah, I don't
even know if I couldn't find out my sheet. Regardless, I think he's
the best special teams coordinator in this sport of football right now, at least
at the national football level. Like you look at how many first downs that
he's gained out of those like special team formations even have at a point where
like or germs like throwing the ball for first downs, he's also running the
ball for first downs. Like he's getting creative already in the special team's aspect
of it. He's part of the core special team coordinators who wanted to like
propose this to the league as a group, and at Dan Campbell spoke about
it at the meeting today. He and they fit had already been like kind
of discussing this and what they want to do because they were the one of
the teams that voted for it. Only three teams voted against that. Think
it was like San fran Green Bay and I't remember who else. I think
it was the Raiders of the other team. But this is phenomenal news for
the Detro Alliance and specifically again Jamison William Jamier Gibbs. They gotta be it
right. Like I said, I if you put those guys back there,
they won't see a ball all year. I can probably see that they'll see
you no coach worked their salt would risk it. Oh, they do.
People used to kick in the Super Bowl. It kicked off the Devin Hester.
That's different though, that's not this. It's not different. It's the
grants returnamentable. Yeah, but not with this setup. This is brand new
and it's a lot easier for explosive plays to happen. So when if you
have two of the biggest playmakers on the other team back there, you're not
going to chance it. I don't know, man, because you could also
have the situation if and that's that's the benefit of it too. Like there's
no touchbacks unless you're in the end zone. None. So if you put
the graphic up real quick to with the landing zone, Chris, if the
ball falls within this landing zone, you have to return it. You have
to return it. There is no touchback in the landing zone at all,
whatsoever. So you also have that the opportunity to like want to kind of
like let work on side kicks. I believe that's a good question. I
think that's I think in the fourth quarter the only time you could do them
is if I'm not mistaken, say Nick, I wanted to say that,
like you have to like be in agreeance that there's an on side kick going
on. It says there are no on side kicks until the fourth quarter begins
and the team is trailing, and current onside kick rules would apply. So
you really put an on side kick into the fourth quarter wow, which then
obviously you up in on sight kick formation. But again, you could kick
it into the landing zone and if like you know, someone's not there to
catch it and flops there like the panic, they had to go and pick
up that ball and still return no matter what. Again, there's no fair
catches. They had to return these balls. I love this rule. And
again, if they decide I would like Jamo and I would like jimiir I
volunteer those two. And don't give me that pussy shit. Yeah, I
already got today with the with the James Houston injury. Oh that's exactly how
James Houston got hurt. Brother. This is football in the same sense of
the hip drop tackle. People are going to get hurt. But on top
of that, there are great players who played both sides in terms of like
returning the ball and special teams and playing like their position. Antonio Brown,
who's like one of the better wide receivers that ever do it. In my
opinion, all the phenomenal that pump returns to Shan Jackson, why would I
At a certain time I kind of compared to Jameson Williams or like Conceiling was
the Shan Jackson another guy phenomenally that Pump returns phenomenal kick returns, as well
as Moonlight as a wide receiver. Not Moonlighting obviously plays a wide receiver position
yard seasons as a wide receiver, Darren, these are guys that played both
their position on the offensive side of the field and through the kicks. Here's
a whole go to the deepest side of the field too. Yeah, it's
I mean, it's definitely a thing. But like I said, if I'm
the head coach and I see Jamison Williams or Jamier Gibbs back there, I'm
putting it twenty yards in the stands. I'm not even taking a chance.
Nick. I think for me, I would put those guys back there in
our big games. You know, obviously, don't do it against the inferior
opponents. You know, definitely the playoffs, no, one hundred percent you
put them back there. But then I'm thinking against San fran next year,
you got Dallas next year, you got Houston next year. Like in those
bigger games, bigger matchups, that's when I would do it. Personally,
I don't think I would do it like all season Like, yeah, I'm
saying no, I'm saying I'm saying, put Jamir and JMO back there in
the big matchups. But I'm saying like, I don't. I think the
Lions are gonna be so stacked where I don't, I wouldn't fuck around with
it. Sorry for the language there, in a sense of like this is
the first time you dropped an F bomb I might have. I'm serious,
I'm big. We're rubbing off on you. Yeah, Chris, what you
got for me? It feels a little it feels a little gimmicky in the
sense like I'm here for it because it will be more entertaining. But that
combined with the hip tackle, I feel like this year in the NBA,
remember how mid season they had to just correct defense because they're like, all
right, dude, all right, we can't have these every night somebody scoring
seventy straight point you know. Like, I think that's kind of where the
NFL is, and that's where all sports are heading. It offense sells tickets.
We know the same. So I am excited for this, but I
feel like it's gonna just lead to more people playing it safe, more teams
playing it safe and just kicking it back to the back to the end zone,
playing playing it's safe, rather than actually giving them the offensive explosion they
want. And if it does, then I think it's gonna it might become
out of hand and you might start steeming forty eight to fifty five NFL scoring
games between that and the hips. That's what they want, that's what they
what they want, what they want, I'm telling you, that's what the
NBA wants it. And then it got to a point where it was like,
all right, it's too much, we have to dial back. So
I feel like this is kind of not the start because they've been moving at
for years with passing, but I feel like this could be a year where
there they don't quite know the intention of their or the consequences of their action.
I think the one that hurts the game more is the hip drop tackle.
In my personal opinion, I think this brings excitement again. Like this
past year they had the most kickoff I'm sorry the touchbacks in the history of
the NFL, so that they want to make it more exciting. Obviously,
the hip drop tackle makes it more exciting too, because you quite literally can't
tackle the finders from behind unless I mean, I'm waiting for somebody explain that
one to me too, by the way, Like I'm not I'm not a
man, I'm pretty stubborn, and I'm pretty like pissed off about that.
But if someone can show me how like you can still get a tackle from
the back end and not have it be a penalty, because not, it's
more than just like a fifteen yarder, which I guess is the first down
regardless, but it's an automatic first down top of that. That's the part
where I'm like kind of pissed off. Yeah, I can see, I
totally see a situation if like a and we saw like bullshit sometimes last year
too. If Patrick Mahomes is just of like a fourth and fifteen, it's
just it's another judgment call for the referees to make. And we know every
time they have a judgment call, they're not going to do the right thing,
like whether it's roughing the pass here, whether it's if they can make
the catch or not, whatever it is the judgment call for the refs to
make. They seem to fuck it up more than that. I'm also open
to Khalif and Marisa. Alexander had something to say when people are saying,
like, have Jamo out there and quote twoty one of those ones. You
remember him, the kick returner for preseason. Yeah, he's like, I
got this level gets a thousand yards. I mean, I mean he was
a dog a dog ass kick returner. Maybe be good in this format too.
But Jamo and Jamiir just it's got me excited. That's what does it
for me. That's the guys. I walk back there is nice. Dude,
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not? I think it's make a pol Yeah, I'm gonna have to make
a poll. One thing you don't have to make a pull about, at
least I'm not making a pull about. It's Dan Campbell speaking on the guys.
They signed here in Detroit, Dogs Socks Dogs and I love when whether
it's Brad Holmes or Dan Campbell or whoever may be, you'll hit the podium
or get a microphone in front of him and confirms things that we say on
this show. Already because a lot of times, because the lines are doing
so damn good, it feels like we get carried away and we're just kind
of being like hypemn for what's going on. And you get the guys that
actually coach the game and speak these same scenario, same fact, same things
they expect out of these certain players. This is Dan Campbell speaking on Carlton
Davis. I joined the team if you don't mind playing that one, Chris,
Look, Carlton, we got to play him twice and I was in
that division as well before that, and and uh so I just myself alone,
I had a good feeling of of Carlton. You know, we didn't
want to really throw at him. You know, we know he's he's a
good cover guy and he'll tackle on the perimeter. He just there's things that
he can do where he can take a little bit of of his side of
the field away at times, which just to have have some of that man
goes a long way for the rest of the defense, you know, and
what AG is going to be able to call. So you know, so
that that that man that that that's gonna help. And that's really something we
feel like we haven't had here uh, since we've been here, So that
that was a Brad did a hell of a job getting that trade done and
getting it through. He made a very important statement in that that we've been
talking about for a while since they added Carlton Davis, that this is something
we didn't have here. This is something you didn't have here. This is
what they wanted Jeff Okuda to be. This is the reason they signed Emmanuel
Moseley last year and then brought him back after his second ACL injury, because
he is a coverage man guy. You put him out there against the best
receiver, the big, tall, physical receiver, you put him on an
island, you say, that's your guy, Go lock him down for the
game. That's what Carlton Davis is. That's what he does. That's what
they brought him in here to do. And on top of that, not
only does he fit the scheme that Aaron Glenn runs, he fits the guy
they want. They talked to Dan Campbell just said it, he's familiar with
this guy. He knows this guy. He played in the same division as
this guy. They didn't want anything to do with him. You don't want
to throw at him. And when he gets out there, if a running
back's in the flat, if a tight ends of the flat, he's gonna
knock him on the ass. This is a guy that fits the scheme,
he fits the culture, and he is a piece that you didn't have.
He is what Emmanuel Moseley was supposed to be for the Lions team last year.
He is the guy they feel comfortable with locking up a one on one
on the outside against a Oh I don't know who were guys that cooked us
last year. Justin Jefferson. That's a guy you could put him out there
against a guy I don't know. Mike Evans. That's a guy that he
played every single day in practice and went on on one on one against another
guy in this division. Big tall, strong, fast guy. Christian Watson,
that's a guy he'll line up one on one on the outside. Caenan
Allen, a guy who just brought it into the Bears. A big,
tall, physical receiver on the outside. That's what you brought him in here
to be. He is your tall, long armed man on man cornerback and
I'm excited to see him go out there and cook the wonder why he switched
up why I said two cams he took all a good shit. You let
him cook piece of shit. That's why I love to hear this is this
is exactly what we told you guys. There's people in a chat there're kind
of be a negative. Nancy's always not a CV one. Oh it's not
a great pickup. People kind of hate no to move No. Like we
say it again, it can sound like fandom because we are fans of the
team, and it's not. We're over hyping things. That's not the case.
This is Dan Campbell, head coach, guy i'd probably consider among the
top ten best coaches in the league, telling you they purposely didn't throw his
way when they played him, and they played him twice once in the regular
season and then again during the playoffs, playoffs where it matters the most.
By the way, another thing too, is like spinning mentioned and Dan killed
himself too, the whole side of the field. At times, you can
lead to him and you don't gotta worry about things, and that helps ag
run the things he likes to do, which confirms another thing we told you
on the show is that, yes, I can't sit here and tell you
that defensive top ten it absolutely was not. But we told you guys he
didn't have the pieces to work with to do the things that he wanted to
do. You got the guy's both great and man coverage. You got a
guy that you get asked the whole things down at least so you could you
could respect to try to hold the guy on an island out there, talk
about like a number one wide receiver to where you can go and do the
things that AG likes to do. And by the way, kind of proved
in my mind that he is good at it is getting freaky with those nickel
guys, freaky with it, not in a ditty way, but getting like
nasty where he's a lot asking these guys in the slot, you know,
go down there blitz or safeties or linebackers. AG's told you guys like playing
as simple. If it were up to him, it'd be man covers and
blitzing every single play, every single down. Having a piece like this,
and Carlton Davis allows him to do that. And again we said it before
we even knew he was coming to this team as the Ags this year is
put up our shut up here, Yes, because we knew the piece were
coming. There was absolute bullshit that he's getting judged without the pieces. You
got the pieces now and more coming by the way too, confirmed by both
Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes during the owner meets as well. But it's it's
good. It's good. I love when it confirmed the shit we say.
Speaking of Brad Holmes there, he never gives up capital. I mean,
the biggest reason why this Detroit Lions team is so different is because the way
that Brad Holmes is drafted and he gave up capital a third round pick to
go get this guy. Back to Dan Campbell, when he talks, he
shoots you straight. He has criticized his own players and he's given his own
players props. So when he's talking about this guy and he's talking him off
like this, it's because he one hundred percent believes it. It's true.
And you look at the numbers and they are true. Like easy said,
we played this guy twice last year. The Detroit Lions played the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers twice last year. Look at Carlton Davis's numbers in those games, and
I'll tell you what we like this offense. We like these receivers that this
offense had. Carlton Davis was out there dogging people. So they saw him
obviously when they were coaches in New Orleans, and they saw him twice against
the Lions last year and they liked what they saw. And another guy they
liked what they saw in is the guy who's probably gonna be lining up on
the other side, and that isn't Meet Robertson. And Meet Robertson has been
a fan favorite since he's been added to the Detroit Lions and he hasn't even
played a snap yet. Why because he talks that talk And he did it
again on Twitter today, Chris, do we have This is a Meet Robinson
replying to one of our posts, and this is his reply saying, I
don't want y'all to feel like I'm trolling, but I think about Detroit every
day. I can't wait. This is really God's plan. We're gonna do
something special. And our post is the Wilbard Sports post. Do you have
that as well? Yeah? Yeah, this is what was said the post
that he quoted from Woobard Sports. It was about conversations that Dan Campbell had
with a Meek Robertson after the signing of Carlton Davis, because after they went
out and got Carlton Davis. Dan Campbell thought it was it was kind of
dead. The Meet Robertson situation was kind of dead. They might not go
after him either. And this is why, Yeah, Dan Campbell and the
Detroit Lions thought they were lost out on to Meet Robertson after trading for Carlton
Davis and to Meet Robertson said to Dan Campbell like, are we gonna do
this or not? And obviously they did it, and they brought him in.
And this is a guy. I talked about the situation before about how
these guys are like the Yin and Yang, and you look at the receivers
they're gonna be going up against in this league. Obviously, Carlton Davis is
your tall, long, rangy cornerback, bigger guy, long arms. You
put him up against bigger receivers. A Meet Robertson is your smaller, shiftier
dog getting your face, getting your grill cornerback. You look at the wide
receiver tandems in the NFC North, justin Jefferson, there's Carlton Davis, Addison.
You put me a Meet Robertson on him. The Bears Keenan Allen,
Carlton Davis, DJ Moore a Meet Robertson. And finally the Packers Christian Watson,
Carlton Davis, Jaden Reid, a Meek Robertson and oh, let's not
forget that slot's getting clamped all year by Brian Branch. Like they brought in
a perfect ebity and ivory situation with Carlton Davis and a Meet Robertson, because
they both compliment each other so well on the guys that they like to guard,
the guys that they are good at matchups against, and they're both just
dogs on the outside. And both of these guys fit the scheme so well,
they fit the culture so well, and they're both chomping at the bit
to good get out there in Honolulu Blue and play for Detroit. Another piece
Dankevi got think about DJ Reader. Do you play that one Chris Reader man
that he popped off the tape immediately? You know, you start going through
them and and and everybody has their own evaluations, you know myself, Brad,
the scouts, the coaches, and I mean every one of us had
full buy in on Reader. Like man, you see this Reader at Cincinnati,
It's like his tape was, and this guy's relentless. He plays the
run. He can get an edge and pass and he just fits this man
and he's, uh, you know his character, He's got leadership qualities about
him. Everybody raves about him. So he's the the idea of he and
Mac opposite each other. We felt like was was gonna help us significantly.
Again, another situation where I love with Dan. Kimi goes out there and
confirms the things you hear on this very show. Shout out to you guys
for rocking with us. But we're here for a reason. We know what
we're talking about to a dude a certain extent. Obviously, we be in
the NFL. BEFO was like at a higher level than this, but he
just told you right there. He loves the pairing of him and Elee McNeil,
and I take pride in like, I think I have a good feel
for I think I have good emotional intelligence. I tell when people mean stuff
and they don't mean things. We had the whole debate last year about the
interesting and now it's a drop now too right. I was like, that's
not like an interesting. How about the laugh from Dan Campbell in the middle
of this speaking about DJ Reader couldn't even help himself. The giddiness took over
just just the thought of DJ Reader next to Allen McNeil. Any football head,
any any football brain, mf R out there knows if you got a
guy like DJ Reader alongside a kid like Alee McNeil, it can get real,
real nasty. And I just want to like, hats off to Brad
because again he told us everything he's gonna do. Yeah, it may looks
sweet. I'd like to take credit for predicting everything, but he told us
what he was gonna do. In that same meeting where he told you he's
not gonna go out there and spend shit to that money. Nextternally Ads,
he told you he likes pairings. Of course he'd loved to pay something.
Next to Hutcheson, there's your Davenport hopefully down the road. Of course you
like the Paris. I'm next to what would have been Camp Sutton. Now
we gotta find another piece that was Carlton Davis. And now the same,
the same situation with Alee McNeil next to DJ Reader causing havoc in the backfield
for quarterbacks, running backs, whatever type of back you have back there,
they they're grow alarmed. Roll back to tape. Roll back the tape.
We talked about DJ Reader. Everybody's talking about Chris Jones, everybody's talking about
Justin Matabuki, and yeah, those are the big names. Those are what
we're gonna hear. But I am in the same exact reason is Dan Campbell.
When I put on that fucking tape and I saw what DJ Reader does
to a defense, I was like, Yeah, imagine that guy opposite of
Alee McNeil, who was looking great playing next to nobody's, playing next to
Bohana and a Lulu and Isaiah Bunks and now you put DJ Reider next to
him, Shit's not gonna be sweet for offensive lines in the NFC North next
year. Like, those guys are not gonna be blockable. You had three
guys on that starting defensive line that commanded double team. You can't do that,
Like, you can't double team all of them, and they're coming for
that ass No Diddy, Like, I am extremely excited to see how this
guy DJ Reader affects not only the defensive line, but put it on wax
Jack Campbell over one hundred and fifteen tackles next year because of the impact DJ
Reader brings. The dude is a monster. I was preaching that I wanted
him in Detroit for a long time. And you know, Dan Campbell Bradholmes
have been known to listen to the Heavies from time. It made it happen
because we know we're football fucking guys, like the front off is are football
guys. It's not hard to understand what they like out of players when you
see their track record. You throw on the tape and you see how these
guys play and you're like, yeah, that's something that they would like.
I told you Jack Campbell was a Campbell guy. I told you DJ Reader
was a Campbell guy. Gotta start listening to us, man, Come on,
man, I care about a you guys, man, And I guess,
like I just want for the people who self doubter. It's not the
self doubters, but the dollars in this team. The people who thought that,
you know, Carlton Davis was a good pick up, that's a bad
trade. The people who think DJ Reader was a good pick up for whatever
reason, I've seen. I've read them both. Hope you're all in the
chat right now, and I hope just hearing that from the head coach,
the head ball coach Dan Campbell. I gotta assume that's a guy you respect
by now, at the very least for him to say these same things.
The Lions are Brad Holmes set himself today. Maybe we'll cut the clip at
some point, but he said this is the best racy class they've had in
his regime. And I have to agree this is the most he's gone expend
this. This is everything I wanted to heading into this offseason when I said,
you're kind of right there after that NC Conference championship game, like,
you know your offense can carry at least that far. How about you go
grab some extra piece in this defense to see what this can do. And
I want a little bit of a splash signing, not so much like the
name value, just a guy that's gonna go out there and fucking ball.
And you got that in DJ Reader, a guy who formerly did it,
Carlton Davis a little bit on a decline, but also scheme got switched up
to again. You guys, if you've watched routinely, you know we were
kind of type the guys over there in Tampa Bay. The guys that we
know in Tampa Bay are literally going to dinner with Jason Light and freaking uh
top Boles. Yeah, Todd Bowles like go fall the next you'll see themselves.
They changed up their scheme a little bit, doing a lot more zone
because a lot of pieces they're missing through injury or whatever it may be,
and blitzing through those situations. We got a guys gonna play man covered,
shut that down. We got guys command double teams. Let Lean do what
he's gotta do. We gotta the guys gonna head hunt and I head hunt.
It sounds I guess bad. Fuck it. Yeah, you got guys
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game, but put them on the ground. Make sure they feel you.
Next time they could know, Diddy Man, next time they come to your
side, they're gonna remember how they got hit last time, and that'll give
them that half second hesitation and shout out to the Runyon in the in the
Woolbard Sports chat, he says, what if Davenport in Houston stay healthy?
All season long. Exactly. Those are two guys who can win one on
one matchups. Whoever the fuck is on that other side of the defensive line
is gonna be getting one on one matchups every single snap because you got Hutch
Reader and Aleen who you gotta double team those guys. So, whether it
be Davenport, whether it be Houston, whether it be Matthew Betts, they're
gonna be getting one on one matchups. And all those guys are proven they
can beat one on one matchups at different levels of football. But I'm sorry,
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how are you feeling? I guess I know your initial reaction to Carlton
Davis trade and the DJ Meadors stuff. How do you feeling to listen Dan
Campbell speak about him? Yeah, honestly, Fellas, you guys know me
or you guys heard me on the show talk about it. I wanted difference
makers on this defense one hundred percent because I thought if this defense somewhat matched
the way this offense was looking that this is a Super Bowl contending team.
The defense just needed to catch up. As we saw what did Sam Frank
put up twenty seven points in that second half? Like that is unacceptable.
That can't happen. I know we gave them turnovers, and I know we
went for it on fourth and didn't get it. But if this defense it's
a top fifteen defense, this team's going all the way, Fellas, or
at least back to the NFC Championship. One hundred percent, because this offense
is so elite. If this defense picks it up, I think we'll be
right back to where we wanted to be at where we just let it slip
last year. I mean, you already have one of, if not the
best rush defense in the NFL, and once you do to supplement that,
you added one of the best rush defenders in the NFL to make that defense
even better. And on top of that, you reworked the secondary to fit
your scheme, to fit your needs. We saw Brian Branch. You don't
think that dude's gonna get better after his rookie season. On top of that,
you added two cornerbacks who fit your system perfectly, and we saw what
Ifi Melifamu did when he stepped into that role. Aaron Glenn has the pieces.
Now this is a make or break year for Aaron Glenn. It's like
I talked about it a couple of years ago. Two years ago. I
said he's trying to make a salad with spoiled vegetables, and he showed us
signs, showed us flashes of the defense playing great. This is the year
where I need to see a top fifteen defense at least, or I'm gonna
start to throw shade at Aaron Glenn, like it's he's got the pieces.
Now, You've got pieces in that secondary, You've got pieces on the defensive
line. You got two great linebackers, Like I expect Jack Campbell to take
a big jump. Obviously, ANZELONEI has played very very well, very good
the past couple of years, so he's you can't give him the excuse of
not having the pieces anymore. He's got the pieces. I don't expect the
past defense to take the gigantic leap that the run defense did going from twenty
eight to two or whatever it was. But if that pass defense can be
middle of the pack, that gives you a top ten defense in the NFL.
I mean, especially they go in and dress the opposite corner position where
it's like, because I have a little bit of a theory and we'll get
to it in the next segment, I don't know that's as much I think
me can do it. I don't know if that's what they want. I
don't I don't know they want him to play that outside cornerback role unless he
has to. Because it's been some conversation specifically today about Brian Branch moving to
that safety spot, and we got the clip. We'll speak on that a
little bit later too. But that's other piece about we're missing, is like
the fact that I don't know if the secondary is gonna take a big jump,
like you said too, I don't know if it's gonna be like a
big big jump, But I think as a defense as a whole is that
we're gonna see jump. I think it's gonna work together where it kind of
to be lucky for it to happen. I'm gonna be real about it.
But you just want guys to disrupt enough plays that the other people can capitalize
on. And I'm talking about guys like Brian branch A Fontinello found with Jack
Campbell. I mean, Carlton Davis isn't known for intercepting football. He's going
forgetting, but he's don't forget his hand on the football. So if you
have somebody around the facinity that could grab that ball at that point and capitalize
on that, I mean that's you go. Look at Brian branches only the
only the one pick six, but the interceptions against the Saints, there's optionally
against the Chiefs. Both those situations were tip balls that he capitalized on.
Like that's that's why he's out there roaming around the due Kirbie Joseph. We
know he has an act to getting the ball as well. Like, I
think that's what you're looking for in this defense more than like ranking past defense
versus what it was last year, which, by the way, it's gonna
be an upgrade regardless as long as everybody says healthy. But that that's what
I'm looking for. More turnovers. That's why I want to see the turnover
stat That's why I want to see grow sacks, stuff like that, turnover
sacks. And by the way, those are things that in my opinion,
directly lead the winning sacking the quarterback and turning the football over. And we
actually proved that few years back. Every single win the Detroit Lions had had
a turnover in those games. Chris, Yeah, My question to you is
they they were very turnover heavy. They were very risk adverse defense the last
couple of years. And I think that's one of the parts of that we
all acknowledged was because the defense didn't have all the pieces. Do you think
it actually becomes a more conservative defense now that's a much more held out,
much more balanced roster. Do you think this is a g getting more players
to play to his strength at a higher level and this is going to be
still a risk adverse defense because we talked about all season that the way this
defense was going to get stops or so by turnovers rather than by you know,
just three downs and yeah, you know, three downs and out.
You know, I don't again, I don't think it seems a rank high
defensively comes to the end of the year. I mean rush defense for sure.
You saw him that last year and as me said too, you had
the best, if not one of one of the best run defenders and the
DJ reader. I think it's gonna be the same aggressive defenses. You're gonna
see more more big players executed out of it. Yeah. I got a
lot of pressures last year with no sacks a show for it. I think
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in the red zone. So I'm extremely excited. Well, we do got
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that's Krispy What up to Welcome back to whatever? It's a lot more
sports dot com? I'm easy morat what young Chris Nicholas Coloff you haven at
already? Please make sure it that I like button. It's Conn talking about
the defense? Really. Dan Campbell spoke to the media today, had lots
of good things to say about Carlton Davis, lots of good things to say
about DJ and what about DJ reader? And I saw the Tommin Wilversports chat
as I have you say before a mailbag, But Edward o'neilsa who's gonna have
a bigger impact Davis or Reader? All due respect to Carlton Davis, one
hundred percent is DJV. That's why I went. When Dan Campbell literally is
discussing what he brings the team, he starts giggling like a kid. He
gets giddy like a child because it's it's it's gonna be disgusting if everything,
but the man is an absolute animal in the middle of that defensive line.
He takes two people to block him. If you do not put two people
on him, he will ruin the play. And even when you put two
people on him, he still ruins plays. Yea like he is an immovable
object in the middle of the defensive defensive line and will be extremely beneficial for
Aiden Hutchinson, al McNeil the secondary and like you're talking about two people on
him and as being the problem, but then like alle McNeil's a problem himself.
It's like you gotta have like what are you what are you gonna do
here? You can only have so many offensive linemen out there. LEI,
I don't getting excited. That's that's the laugh. Yeah, Dan Gambs,
that's why he started giggling like that. But I do well, Actually,
I think the point where he said I actually saw a sweet from Dan Miller.
Did I send that one? Chris? I think I did a couple
of takeaways from Dan Miller when he spoke Dan Campbell twice now both the Breakfast
today and he had a one on one with him yesterday that's on Fox.
But he said some notes from Dan Campbell's ongoing media session is a loss of
sudden adds urgency to another cornerback, which I want to highlight on and get
back. Still looking to add help at safety. Branch can see some time
at safety this year. And that's when we get into this video from Dan
Campbell speaking about that transition, possible transition for Brian Branch to the safety It
could be. I mean, we're certainly Branch has got flexibility, you know,
to be able to play the safety position. We believe here in time
and you already we already feel very confident about the nickel. He'll only get
better and better. And I think really the bigger it's really and and we
do believe he'll be able to get there. It's how fast do you get
him there? You know? And because what you don't want to do is
art man. He can play safety and nickel, but it takes away from
his nickel play. How good he is as a nickel or how good he
can become. And so it's it's finding that fine balance between the two.
And honestly, you know, I just bring this up again, and Deucey
was the same way when we got him in New Orleans. It was,
man, he is a safety nickel and when we just let him play nickel,
he just really exploded. And now you see here he is later in
his career and he can really do both. He really grew in both areas.
So it's just a matter of how fast he can get there. But
look, we're still going to look for safety help. That's not over either.
We know we need some. They are again to bring in some competition
in that room, and so we're you know, our eyes are there as
well. Yeah, howd you guys? Safety is coming as well. I
like Brian branch at Nickel, I do. I mean, I understand he
played safety Obama and he that his original position. But give me, Brian
branch at Nickel, give me him closer to the line of scrimmage. Give
me him putting more pressure on the quarterback, pressure on the running backs,
pressure on the line of scrimmage. Because, like I said, my favorite
play from last year outside of game ceiling or game winning interceptions or touchdowns.
Was when he took Jon Robinson's head off. That dude is a monster when
he's coming down the field, screaming into the backfield, going after dudes in
the flats. I want Brian Branch as close to the line of scrimmage as
possible. I like him at nickel a lot more than I do safety,
but he could play both. You know, he played safety at Bama,
so it's not anything that he's unfamiliar with. He's got that versatiality. But
I prefer him at nickel because he gets his hands on more of what the
offense is doing. He can blow up plays easier from the nickel position than
the safety position, and that same I guess the counterpoint to that is,
like he did play more nickel, to be fair, that obviously would make
it more replaces from the nickel spot. But I think you want to look
back to the forty nine Ers game where we found ourselves with situations where he
was on the field because Kyle Shanahan purposely blowing out lineups so to keep a
nickel cornerback off the field like those heavier lineups. And now if you were
playing the safety position, he's still out there for you, and I think
that's the goal here as I'm assuming both with the signing of Mike Robinson,
who did play outside last year but also started his career com playing that you
know, nickel spot, I think that much i'd be the goal for him.
That's why when we signed him, and I know a lot of people
thought I was crazy at the time, but I was making the comp to
the CJDJ. I think he's gonna bring everything you kind of wanted out of
CJ. Although CJ did have his moments last year too, a couple of
receptions, but I think, yeah, you put Branch at the safety spot.
Obviously you wish it works out just as well as it did the nickel
spot, but then he's on the field more often. I'm saying, there's
there's no reason, there's no lamps you could deploy as an offense to keep
that playmaker off the field. Kyle Shannank quite literally said it like at whatever
postgame presser, was like, yeah, we we purposely like lined out the
heavy personnel, so Brian Branch like they are less than a playmaker out there.
I think that's part of it too. And then I think when Meek
and fill in at the nickel spot. And that's why Dan here, Dan
Miller shout out legend, shout out. Dan Miller says they are looking for
another cornerback, and that's some of you guys continue to get leaven more excited
because as much as we're excited now with the pieces we acquired, there's still
work to be done, and I think it's gonna come in the shape of
a free agent. I can't speculate as to who as of now, do
you guys have any idea? Was on Miami. Dan Campbell was on Miami.
Damian Howard said he would go to a contender and take less money.
David Howard said he would be comfortable with the Detroit Lions. I don't want
to put all my bread in that in that box, but like some dots
connect there, Nick, I'm on the Gilmore hype boys. You guys know
I am Super Bowl Champion, Defensive Player of the Year. To have that
pedigree, I mean, Carlton Davis Super Bowl champion. You think about adding
two Super Bowls champions to this secondary to go with the upgraded defensive line,
it's gonna cause some problems. And we know that this team's gonna cost some
turnovers with all the pressure we're gonna get with Houston back Hutchinson get into the
quarterback. What reader brings to this defense, I'm telling you, I think
it could transform it quick and I think that will help Gilmour out, even
if he does if he had lost a little bit of a step because of
because of his age. I mean, let's be real, boy it too,
and not that I care to if been the guy at this point,
because he hasn't made himself look like a price human being. But camp Sutton
wasn't the greatest out there either. He wasn't the fastest out there. Even
the Gilmore a little long in the tooth, if that's gonna be a argument,
he's not as fast as he once was. Cam wasn't showing the flash
of that either. So when I get the guy experiencing it, I got
a former defensive m v P Stephan Gilmour. I mean, that's the guy
that I'm in, at least this guy I'm hoping for. Listen, like,
just you guys talk it out there. I'm also not a post whoever
they bring in, because again I didn't know Mick Robinson existed until we signed
him. And I watched the tape. I'm in love. Maybe he's another
signing like that. Well, I don't know. We shall see, but
I'm hoping for Gilmore. I'm hoping for Gilmore. Now that's funny you said
that about a meet Robinson because I immediately asked, like the biggest Raider fan
I know, and he's like, man, I got no clue that guy
is. So I didn't. Yeah, I didn't know anything about him before
he came out. I remember I remember watching that play he had against uh,
Christian Watson. I remember that. I remember seeing that play. But
no, I was not familiar with the Meek Robertson's game played. But I
remember watching that game where he was playing against Christian Watson when they played the
Packers, and he looked pretty good. Yeah, I think at that point
for me when I saw it, because I know knew of the play,
but it's like one of those like nameless bray Fait, I'm saying, like
you didn't know who it was, Oh sick, like fuck the Packers.
But no, I think I think he'll end up playing Nickel Branch would end
up playing safety. The only thing where I'm like, Okay, what happens.
Is this guy, which I guess he did come split time either way
last year is a Fontinela famo. We had a little bit of a breakout
candidacy there last year. Is like, now is he gonna be splaying time
with Branch? And at that point is Branch still splitting time? Like what
are we doing there? Or he's running straight like Nickel packages having them all
out there. I don't know, that's my question. I guess yeah,
easy. That was a great point though, that you do not want Branch
off of the field. Yes, you know, like I'm right there with
you and with that, Yeah, he cannot be because he has all pro
potential going into a second season. Yes, like I'm expecting massive numbers.
He looked he missed two games last year, still had thirteen passes defended.
Yeah, like we're talking about a guy that could double digit TFLs maybe even
twenty past defended multiple interceptions. We saw the pick six obviously. Yeah,
this dude is a playmaker. Keep him on the field at all costs.
If it does mean transitioning him to safety, I mean, let's give it
a go. Yeah, maybe even I mean, be real, So when
I was just said about it meek. I was more excited about it being
like a nickel spot if he had to obviously, outside, I was one
of the first ones excited about the guy by the way too. Once,
once I finally watched the tape, I should say, like, where is
the confidence like one through ten unique on the outside, I would say seven
seven, Yeah, for what he is. I mean, I don't expect
him to be, you know, all pro caliber corner, but I confidence
he can play that position and play it well. Chris, I don't like,
they're not familiar with this game. But you know, he's talking to
talk and yeah, and I believe that that's a great quality that a lot
of a lot of cps have or a lot of great STPs have. So
I think he'll, I think kill do enough. And I think that combined
with the improved pass rush that will help a lot. So I think he'll
I think he'll do an adequate job. You know. I think I think
the baseline is can you be better than Jerry Jacob? Like can you?
And I think absolutely so, I'm not too. I'm not too. That's
a great point. That's that is the baseline, And I mean I do
respect that Jerry. I expect these guys to be better that they've been brought
here to be that. And Alan W makes a phenomenal point, isn't it
great that we have so many good players we're debating which one should start.
That is a phenomenal problem to have. I'm really not tripping. And the
only reason I asked, I guess like guys confidence level with him starting on
the outside. My assumption is he's going to take over that nickel spot.
If they're talking about moving branch to safety, you know what I'm saying,
Or maybe that's the split between there, that the split would be a meek
and branch moving back and forth from nickel and safety, or maybe don't because
if you would take that safety spot branch and moves out of the nickel,
that's literally what's gonna happen. Actually, it's what he's just said about the
cd DJ. We did it with the CD. That's what branches bright to
do. Saint today Albama nicol last year for us. This year will be
his year to learn safety. But he already had a start in that last
year too. It's not like he's gonna be like a rookie at that spot.
He's gonna have some experience. And another great thing to add to this
conversation is that we're talking about the additions, and I know that makes sense
because these are the things that are fresh that are happening right now. But
we are not talking about all the young pieces. I know Spencer alluded to
Jack Campbell and we talked about Hudge and Elite, but like the guys that
are already in place, Like that's the exciting part about this is I like
the addition separately, when you just bring them in without the context of the
roster, but adding in the context of the fact that this defense is a
very young defense. I think two years ago Easy wasn't it the youngest defense
in the NFL. Yeah, so this is a young defense, a young
core, and then now they have veterans and internal growth, Like we're not
talking about the internal growth part. That's where to me this defense can get
into that, you know, top half of the league, maybe even maybe
even for a stretch top ten defense, Like that's where it can happen because
we're talking about the internal improvement as well that we haven't even really dove into
yet. Yeah, now that I'm I've kind of cut it out. I
guess in my head it's not on the opposite side, on the right side
of the field. I believe they probably dup signing a Stefan Gilmore or it's
a veteran guy that could play that outside regardless, I want it. I
wanted you split that between branch and a meet. Anytime branch is asked to
move down to that nickel spot, you didn't put a Fonta mi fon with
safety and then obviously on the right side of the field, I'm sorry,
on the left side corner you got Carlton Davis. That's how it think go
down for sure in our audio just cut up? Or is that just me?
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Detroit real quick. We got Spaze mock Cheff coming off. I just want
to make two points to shout that the water on the on the chat my
belief, my odds belief in the same way you solve it with the guard
spot. I think there's no chance in health. I think you say the
same with outsie corner spot with the graving Crrolton Davis. There's no chance in
hell they draft and start a rookie on the opposite of crowdon Davis. Oh,
ye're a million percent gonna sign a veteran corner And if there's still a
drafted guy, obviously see them visiting taking guys out of the guys probably date
day three picks or from day two picks. There's possibly that rookie starts at
some point throughout the season, but going into it, there's no not a
chance in hell they're gonna rely on a rookie cornerback and the pursuit of a
super Bowl, Super Bowl run, Yeah, there's there's not a single chance
of the house. And then the other part too, You guys kind of
madge spect for the Kirby. All right, Kirby. If there's anybody in
that back that's not spending time, it's Kirby. Joseph, Yes, Like,
don't the branch is always going back and forth because he can't. He's
just like CD deuce. You heard Dan Camblell say the clip last segment,
play Nickel play safety, kind of move all around if you will. Kirby,
same put no one's taking Kirby spot is your starting safety, he's your
center fielder. Yeah, he's good at it too. By the way,
like if if you don't believe me or haven't believed in the past, just
knowing what the way, the things we said about the DJ Reader stuff,
things we said about Carlton Davis were the same as Dan Campbell. Just know
that the same belief is there with Kirby Joseph as well. Kirby's a dog.
Is a dog. He's in a great defense. He's a ball hawk.
Yes, But without further douce spinning. Speaking of that rookie cornerback,
I don't know if you got one in your draft. We got all right,
Chris throwed up there my mock draft. He's he's begging me to do
one yesterday. So I went out there and did one. Bagging at twenty
nine. I had to take him because he was there. You cooked gimme
kool aid McKinstry at number twenty nine. Obviously, he is kind of going
up in this draft right now, so I don't know if he'll be there
at number nine, but we know he was dealing with a foot injury when
he did his pro day, So he's gonna be even faster and more explosive
when that injury heals up. And obviously it helps that he's injured. We
know that Brad Holmes loves that. And a guy, So gimme kool aid
mckinstreet number twenty nine and number sixty one. I took a Western Michigan defensive
line and a guy that the Lions have met with, a guy the Lions
have showed a lot of interest in in Marshawn Kneeland. A big, physical,
versatile guy. You can move around the defensive line and can win one
on ones on the outside. He has that Dan Campbell attitude, that nonstopability
where he goes one hundred percent every single play and make things happen. They
like him. I think they go after him. And I took him at
number sixty one and number seventy three. I took my guy, and I
don't give a shit. PFF. You can keep giving me an f for
this bullshit. I'm taking Cooper Baby in the third round every single time.
This is guy who can do a lot of different things. He can play
a lot of different positions on the offensive line. He has insane numbers.
When you look up his pass blocking and his rush blocking. The dude is
a monster. Where was it Soelkie Johnson says that aff looks were off.
Fuck PFF for giving me an F. Cooper Baby in the third round is
not an F. It's cool. Suck my dick spinning actually because we we
we Well, you didn't talk that aggressively. Yeah, but we have the
guy who graised that F on the show Travers Sikama. It's pretty again that
yeah called him out. I said, why the fuck is Cooper Babby and
F? When I get him in seventy three, he's like, dick,
He's like, you should not be an F. So, yeah, PFF,
you keep giving me an fter that, I'll give a fuck. I'm
gonna keep taking him. Brad Holmes doesn't give a fuck either at number or
their fifth round pick number one sixty four. I took James Williams Safety out
of Miami VU. This is a big dude. He is like six'
three plus. He's a playmaker on the outside. One of his comparisons,
it's Kyle Hamilton, that is one of his pro comparisons. The dude is
big, he is physical, he makes plays, he flies to the ball,
and he can get He has good balls because I like him a lot.
James Williams out of Miami. If you haven't watched the tape, go
put on his tape. The dude is a force out there. And in
the sixth round at number two oh one, I took Joshua Sephiz again,
a big body outside receiver you could throw jump balls to different things like that.
Sixth round, number two oh five, I took Julian Pearl, big
monster of a tackle on the outside for Illinois. Big dude. I think
he's six' five, three hundred and ten pounds, can play that tackle
position. I saw a lot of him at Illinois. He was very good
in the run game as well as in pass protection. And then in the
seventh round, I took will Richard, who I think is the best kicker
in this draft out of Alabama. Kids pro ready, he can bang him
from sixty plus. No Diddy, give me will Richard in the seventh round.
But I took a lot of big, versatile players in this draft,
Guys that I think Brad Holmes is gonna have on his board. Not gonna
live those first three picks. You cooked, absolutely cooked. I got.
I got to do my homework on James Williams, but I'll never complain about
having a six foot and that you're gonna James Williams. If you watch it,
Chris, what are you about to say I was a good saying thing.
I think you had your hand out. Nope, no go in the
kdistry. He's growing on me. He's growing on me, honestly, and
initially I didn't like he just didn't have that stickiness i'd like to see in
a quarterback one. But thankfully I have to assume he's not gonna be that
in this in this system, and if he does, if you're gonna learn
from a guy who's kind of similar to him in like body type, at
least in Carlton Davis. You got another guy that's not the fastest. He's
a little bit longer, lengthier, he's not the stickiest. Well, actually,
Carlon Davis can get pretty sticky, but he has a good good uh
mentor to learn from not having that like quickness, you know, and uh,
where was it? Super Saiyan Lines says, hell no, not even
close to Kyle Hamilton. No shit, he wouldn't be coding in the fourth
round if he was Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton was a top ten pick for
a reason. But that's his size is aggressiveness, the way he closes on
balls, That's why he draws those comparisons. That's why they he was Their
second pro comparison for him was Kyle Himpton because of how big of a guy
is, how physically is in the run game, and how fast he can
get from that safety position to the line of scrimmage to chop down runners.
Yeah, I'm gonna do some more. We're gonna I'm I'm excited for it.
Then, obviously the second Hilton, he would be a projected top ten
pit not available in the fourth round. I don't eve think this guy falls
that far in it. But Marshawn Knelan the second round. I mean,
we had Trevor Sikhmou on the show and he recommended it or said he would
be surprised if he went first round. Yeah, d charl Lions, just
because he could've seen him falling back to him. I don't. I don't
think that happens, at least not for us. I guess I wouldn't be
surprised. Brad, It's gonna go do his thing. VPA regardless, but
if you were able to grab him the second round, I mean, that's
baby Hutch just playing sample to puts you that way. A guy is gonna
not NonStop motor, his buses ass a little bit of a bull rusher and
the one move that he likes to use spin move. But unless another valuable
piece to have on there. And I think if you have those pieces,
we're just constantly because again I know hutchesn't always get to the quarterback more so
I guess moving him off of where they want to be. That's why he
has all those pressure stats. But if you have two of those top of
a Leaman, DJ like, shit's gonna go your way, whether it's a
quarterback forcing a throw, whether it's one of those guys breaking free and getting
to the quarterback in which I my prediction will probably be Lee McNeil in this
scenario, or and or again forcing to throw, which is one of your
guys capitalized in the backfield. I'm I'm for it. And obviously Cooper Baby,
I think he's got a dog too. I think Trevor's the only guy
that are we're aware of that's not a big fan of coup baby, And
what do you say it was like athletically the athletic traits were, Yeah,
he was lacking. Talk about production. You look at his production and it's
over two thousand snaps with like two sacks allowed like they do. It is
a monster and puts people on the turf. By the way, speaking of
mock dress every Tuesday would end up doing this. You should join us one
day those who Dean and I will be doing mock draft for Detroit Lions tonight.
Last time I did one through thirty two. This time we'll do one
through seven, a live mock draft with you guys listening and obviously our inputs
to I'll probably give a couple guys same we've done it on this show before.
It help us make the picture with each your Lions. What is your
reaction to space mock draft? So it sounds like you guys like Kneelin and
it sounds like some big time scouts do as well. And I'm gonna go
back to the production. In four years at Western Michigan in the MAC,
the dude has racked up twelve and a half sacks. Are you saying that
he's more of a draw double team kind of get the pressures type guy,
Why is the production so low in the Matt Conference. If he's projected to
go this time twelve sax is good career career twelve sex, twelve and a
half career sacks. How many games started? I mean he's played in thirty
two, thirty two his last three years, five of his first year.
No, I think, uh, thirty seven total. Same way. I
guess Hunch is kind of coming around where you can't really have that argument.
But I mean Hunch went off in the Big Ten. Hunch went off of
the Big Ten, but it wasn't until what that last year with the two
years before he got hurt. Yeah, he got hurt before, So I
don't know get hurt both years just the one that was just a one year.
I can look it up real quick. But I think he got hurt
the year before absolutely going in his senior year and leading Michigan to the Big
Ten championship. But in some a situation where we kind of found Hutch this
year was like he's there, get these pressures, but he's never like laying
the sack. That's why I tell you this guy's baby Hutch where it's it's
very similar where it's like you just had that natural bend. Just that he's
got that I'm coming for you, motherfucker. That makes sense, gotcha.
I hope that particularly for some people, he's not like you know, he's
more I'm just coming to get you. Yeah, that's Nieland, but kool
Aid absolutely loving this one. I still want the starting cornerback to come through
a Stefan Gilmour type pick up for this team, and then Cooper Beabey depth
at guard for next year because obviously we don't know what's gonna happen in the
future. With obviously the new guy we brought in, he's on a one
year deal. So yeah, I dig it a lot. Yeah, adopt
that safety as well. So this sounds like kind of a depth draft.
Obviously kol Aid has the higher upside. Yeah, you guys think Neeland has
an upside, but it does seem more of a depth draft and not drafting
for starters. Yeah. For me, Kniela is not so much an upside
more so than like a piece of like to the puzzle, you know what
I'm saying, where he's gonna help you a couple of the guys get one
on one situations, and Lean McNeil again's the guy I want to point to
and I hope this store some confidence. And you, I know how you
did miss some games. But at twenty eighteen, zero sacks for him in
seven games thirteen games played, and twenty nineteen only three and a half.
Obviously got hurt. His junior year just those two games in the fourteen games,
fourteen sacks, so summer I'm saying only, well, actually this guy
did even have a breakout year. But I like Mysh Marshaw Kneland again,
when I look at these guys, saying the DJ reader, not a lot
of sack numbers, right, But it's like I'm not always looking for a
sack, I'm looking for a disruptor. Some other guys get the sack crazy
amount of tackles. Yeah, I'll tell you that. So that's good to
see. He had the opportunities to to move on to I think it was
I think it was Miami or FSU because they and they grabbed Brandon Fisk by
the way, he's Western Michigan guy too, went to FSU. They tried
to say the Marsha Kneeland, but I guess Marsha Knelan. He was at
to a point where he wasn't gonna play anywhere, and the Westerns the one
team that took a chance on him, so we wanted to stay stay put.
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on without us talking about the biggest Detroit Rebis game this season. I got
corrected on that. To begin the show, I said, they've been in
the type playoff race all season. Every game's been big. No, this
is the biggest. This is by far the biggest Perspinny and Nicholas call off,
someone let the boys cook. Yeah, it's by far the biggest game
of the season. You're at Washington taking on the Capitals. You are what
one point or two points ahead of Washington right now in that playoff race,
and they have a game in hit. So this is a game you need
to win if you if you want to stay in that playoff position, if
you want to stay in that wild card spot, if you need to win
this game because your road does not get any easier going down the stretch,
and the Capitals have a game on you, so they still have points that
they can bank. You need to win this game. You need to win
in a regulation. You cannot allow the Capitals to get a single point off
you. This needs to be a four point swing in the in the in
the standings. So this is the biggest game the Detroit Lions, the Detroit
Red Wings had played since they've moved to Joe Lewis or from Joe Louis Arena
to LCA. It is an extremely, extremely important game for the standings for
the playoff race, and I think the guys know that. I think they're
taking it seriously, and I think they're going to go out and win.
Yes, Speno, this game honestly scares me because it's not at LCA,
It's in Washington, and you think about Ov. You think about the damage
he's done his whole entire career there. Looking at this game, the Wings
are plus one to ZH six on the money line, Capitals minus one twenty
eight. So we're underdogs going in and Lolan's said all year Vegas doesn't like
us, which I'm sure glad they don't because we have picked up a lot
of wins as underdogs this season. And I think that you just said,
this is the biggest game since we've moved to LCA. But you think about
the kids on this roster that are now leaders on this team. You think
about a most Cider the biggest game of his career so far. You think
about a Lucas Raymond. How do they respond in this must win game on
the road against one of the best hockey players to ever play the game in
Alex Ovachkin, I'm looking forward to it. This is musty TV as a
Detroit Red Wings fan, and this is all we've asked for. We asked
for these games. We wanted to be in contention. Now we are.
How does this team respond? Yeah, and MPWMW says who's in net?
I don't know if they announced it yet. I assume it's going to be
Alex Lyon based on the performance he had in Nashville where he held the Predators
to one goal, where Nashville is one of the hottest teams in the NHL,
and that was a great performance by him. So I assume it's going
to be Alex Lion in net against the Capitols in Washington. But yeah,
this is the most important game and you need your stars to step up.
I needed to break it Gold, I need it. You need to score
in here, Alex. He've been on a snide, a bad snide when
the team like you're like the Avatar, when the team needed you most,
you vanished, Like we need you to come back and we need you to
score here. It's extremely imperative. Patrick Kane needs to be Patrick Kan Dylan
Larkin's gonna do his thing. I'm not worried about him. Dylan Larkin's gonna
be that guy. But we need Patrick Kine and Alex to bring it to
show up in this game for sure? Is it with Lion Like? Was
there a fall from grace or was more so to the defense. No,
he's never been apart. He's never done this before. He's never been the
number one goalie on the team for an entire season. It was a top
ten guy earlily, Yeah, he got tired. Man, He's never played
this many games. He's never had this workload. He's never done this.
So playing that many games, going out there that many nights in a row,
it's gonna wear on you. Stopping forty shots every night is gonna wear
on you. And it's just he couldn't keep up that level of play because
he's never done it in this career. Before eleven games left in the season,
including tonight, how will this team respond. We've seen the sixth game
winning streak, We've seen the seventh game slouch, seven game losing streak,
and this is what it's all about. And how does lolone respond? How
does Patrick Kane respond? How does Dylan Larkings respond, this team just got
shut out in Nashville. Nashville has a great defense. They just shout out
Florida the day before. But this is not a Florida or this is not
a Nashville Predator team. No, you can score on exactly. Yeah,
what are your expectations going into this game? How do you think this team
will respond? You need to score at least throw three goals if you want
to win this game. In my opinion, this is a team that you
can score on. They're not a great defensive team. You can go out
there and you can put pucks in the net. I need to see a
playoff or a power play goal, like I said, I need to see
in Alex brink it goal and I expect three goals. If you score three
goals, you have a good chance, a very very good chance of winning
this game. Alex Lyon is confirmed in that on FanDuel or betting app that
I use over under twenty six and a half over for the saves. I
would take the over on that by fucking file. Yeah, this defense is
well love to give up shots. That is easy money. I think he's
oh he's over that second period like it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a
tough matchup, and they've got goal scorers on that team. They've got good
players on that front line, and so you're gonna need to be on your
piece of cused. Like I said, you're gonna need to score three goals
if you want to win this game. We've seen Alex dabrink it everywhere around
the net, but not in the net. Yes, you know, and
like you said, you need to see one from him tonight. I don't
want to hear a goddamn thing about him hitting the post. I don't want
to hear that, dang. I don't want to hear post malone. I
don't want to hear any of that stuff tonight. I want to hear the
horn. And honestly, like this is the biggest game all season, Please
rad Wings pick up a dub. I gotta have faith in Dylan Larkin.
The captain shows out tonight, even though he's battling an injury. I think
he comes out on fire tonight. Big time players make big time plays,
and that's what you brought him in to do here with score goals. Alex
Tobrinkott was brought here to score goals, to lead this team in goals.
We need him to do that. This is a must win game. If
you don't win this game, your chances to make the playoffs plummet. So
you need him here to bring it. The city of Detroit needs you.
The Red Wings needs you to go out there and put one in the back
of the net. Easy. Chris, you think the Wings are winning tonight?
Yeah, I'll take it. I wasn't a confident. Well, I'm
building parlay right now too. Oh boy, my two shots on goal they've
been hitting. I'm looking for a guy DNC and T He's buildings with me,
Larkin for sure. Two shots to go there, David? Two shots?
Yeah, Chris, you think they're winning the night in Washington? Easy?
Light, LightWork, No, no problem. It's like pushing T versus
Drake this easy money, take it to the bank. Can two shots?
Yeah? The ronan saying most Cider will score. That's extremely bold, but
I love it. Big player, big game, I mean biggest game of
most career for sure. Is right before the game starts. You can go
watch the new episode coming out on Spenmo. Rex beats a drops at seven
o'clock. Spo Rex speaks. Make sure you go check it out. Two
shots, three shots for Larkin, Yeah, I do three Nick two shots
with three shots for Larkin. I'm more of a passive. Make sure you
cast the bat. I would go to all right, wevekin? How crazy?
Gon go with that? Three? Four? Yeah? Sure four?
Three for sure? Raymond he's Spotty's Yeah, he got away from Raymond.
Don't put him in there even one Nope? Well yeah, I mean if
you want to choose it with one, he'll have a shot. Let's see
what it is, Josh b says, let's go Red Wings do it for
d Mac. It's true. The US game of the season comes on Turtle
Day, March twenty sixth. To break it. Two shots, Yes,
you need that spend mode. It's probably probably trolling right here, but m
w m u. Unfortunately the Red Wings are cooked. He is he is,
That's what he does. He is. Yeah. Yeah, So three
shots, two shots, two shots. They need to win this game.
You need to win this game flat out. This is a must win for
the Detroit Red Wings. If you want to make the playoffs, you have
to win this game. This should be a playoff atmosphere. Oh yeah,
I definitely think Siders should play twenty five plus minutes in this game. You
need to win this game to put I'm put Larkin for a point too,
market in Kane for a point. It is Larkin. I wouldn't mind that
larketing Kame for a point marketing game. Yea, Nicholas, I do like
Larkin to get one for sure. Yeah, I mean this is the Caine
came here for this reason. He wanted to be on a contender playing meaningful
games at the end of the season. Hell yeah, put down Kane for
a point. I'm putting them down to score one. Actually, I like
that even more. I'm gonna parlay caine money line. Let's go, Let's
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watch wild thornberries? No smashing smashally like button millback segment or we got a
little bit of Pistons that was left in the sheet. I don't. I
don't have the chat in front of me right now. Email bags ready right
now? You want to get a basinessing out the way I'm looking at you,
Chris, what are we talking? Hey, breaking fixing, breaking breaking
news today before we like Chris Cook, I have officially not re upped my
season tickets for next year. The Pistons have lost me they lost a fan
this season, the Pistons, how do you fix them? Talk to Chris?
How you fixing Detroit business? Chris? One word? Oh you catched
it. We gonna start documenting it. The Wings win my days? You
cash Okay, listen, there's one word and one word only to fix this.
God, that's it. That's it. It's just it's just the higher
powers there. We need. Just all you. That's all you need.
Go to church every Sunday, lock and pray on your off days too,
man like, give give to the communion. Makes make sure you pray for
this pissing team, because this is a team. Man, that is just
so much dysfunction. We've talked about it several times on this show. I've
lost I've lost complete faith. Like I I love the pieces that are here
on the roster, but I don't believe in the coach. I don't believe
in the front office, and I damn sure don't believe in the ownership.
I was literally laying in bed last night when I was starting to feel a
little rough, and I was damn near on the verge of I was damn
near on the verge of tears thinking about like this pisson team and where it's
that like, it's it can get like like I imagine myself on air on
this show talking about the Pistons and damn near breaking into tears because it's it's
that. It's that way man, Like this season you can't even finish it
out strong, like you can't because you're shutting down players for the year.
Asar is a player that I believe in and I talked a lot about me
and you easy talked about him on the phone for half an hour last week
or two weeks ago. And now he's got this blood clot and you know
that's the thing that players can either ounce back like brandon Ingram, or it
can hinder your career like Chris Bosh. So it's just tough man. You're
you're you're trying to find the silver lining and it hurts because you finally got
a prospect like the guy you can actually build her out, not fucking Andre
Drumm at that bump. You have somebody you can build around, and you're
blowing it. You're flat out blowing it. So it's disheartening. Now I
feel you that I think where you can allow yourself or at least where you
can find yourself getting depressed about it for real, is like the core issues
with this franchise And now you say team franchise is the guy who owns the
fucking team exactly? How do you fix that? And you can't fire the
guy who owns the fucking team. You encourage him with sell, but at
end of the day, he makes a decision if he wants to or not.
They couldn't even get down sterling itself. And by the way, a
top of just losing every fucking year, he's only gained value in the franchise
when he bought it, worth like three hundred million, not worth like one
point something billion. Absolutely, we're gonna do what they did. Stop buying
tickets out and move on. Dog. That's it. I will never do
that. I know. Owning an NBA franchise is a license to print money.
Yeah, if it's up to us, like it really is, because
it does start and end with Tom Gorris. Is the reason this team is
ship is because he is the worst owner in professional sport right now. Because
he is the worst owner in basketball right now by far. So if you
want changes, stop going to games, stop buying tickets, stop buying merch
because that's the only way it's gonna It's only gonna affect him because you will
never sell. As long as they're making money. As long as they continue
to make money and continue to up his investment, he will never sell.
It's a license to print money, you know what. But the NBA will
interview if there's two people at games, if nobody's wearing Pistons jerseys, if
nobody's talking about them, the NBA will interview. So that's the only way,
because I mean they because Tom Gorris is by far the worst owner in
basketball. That's why I'll say this. And I think we don't talk about
him because there's nothing to talk about. It is truly because we're like,
yes, is our job to talk sports, But like as Chris said,
it's depressing, like it makes ruins my day. And I think you guys
have caught it. Every single time we have talked about him. It gets
pretty passionate here. Guys get to yell and get the streaming about it.
We get to argue with each other over it, and there's nothing wrong with
that. We should be arguing for sports that I think that's what that's what
I love about sports, Arguing with the motherfucker and being right all time.
God damn but lost. But with this guy, we have to, I
guess talk about it because he did show some shame when he put out the
James Edwards interview on Christmas Eve like he oh, I do philanthropy, blah
blah blah, Like obviously there's enough from you guys that do go sell a
team chance all the way every fucking quarter. If you do go sell a
team chance, if you know someone going sell a team chance, we have
to embarrass him. It's either making the proper changes or putting the proper decisions
to the proper hands, or selling the fucking team because he feels a shame.
The James Edwards interview on Christmas Eve showed that we could shame him and
make it some type of change. Man. We just have to keep going
at him and don't fucking Troy Weaver, fuck Monty go at Gors. That's
the guy we need to be calling out. Go at Gors because he's been
here, Town's been here the longest it's been he has five of the worst
He's gonna end up having five of the worst Pisson seasons of franchise history,
and this year he's closing down the worst season of franchise history, the ten
worst records and Piston his history. This guy's responsible for five of them.
At the end of this season. He is the guy we need a bitch
at again. Fuck Monty, fuck Weaver. Whatever happens with them, happens
with the guy we need embarrassed is fucking Tom Gors. I'm in a tough
spot because I'm I have tickets that I that I got at the very beginning
of the year that were redeemed for this game April first against the Charlotte Hornets,
and I'm in I'm in pain because you know I'm going with I'm a
great company. I'm going with great company. I'm excited to take it.
I took her to the last game, she loved it, and I want
to go. I want to go again. But it's like it's it's like,
you're right, I don't want to support Biger a couple of weeks saying
I said, just wait, take her to a Tiger's game in a couple
of weeks. Chris, you do have to go, and you do have
to just completely. I liked what Easy said, say you sell the team.
I mean when I when I made out the tweet, this morning,
I said, a whole lot of things are the reason why I am giving
up the season tickets, but the biggest one fifty two and one hundred and
eighty four since we drafted Kate Cunningham Fellas. That is the worst winning percentage
of any team in any sport in the last three seasons. This is the
worst franchise in all of franchises when it comes to sports, your top your
Big four sports. This there's no excuse. This used to be a proud
franchise. It is no longer. I hope every single fan does what I
did today, days does oh my god, I'm fired up, sells the
f thing tickets because there is no excuse for a Pistons franchise to be this
bad, or any Detroit and any sports franchise to be this guy damn back
getting worked out, man, I'm sorry. I did it a couple of
months ago. It's not even worth it anymore. They don't give a shit
about us, They don't give a shit about getting a giving out a good
product. Fuck them like, I'm over it. The Pistons be nothing to
me right now because it starts with the fucking ownership and it's embarrassing that they
don't care. I know the players care. None of this is on the
players. It's it's some of it is on the players. In my eyes,
it takes some pride the man. They gotta take pride and win some
fucking games. How with what California to take pride now? When we're tanking
clearly like we are right now, I'm saying during the spree, I'm saying,
the twenty eight game losing streak, that's gotta be something on the players.
You can't fucking allow it to happen. Well, there's there's the part
of the to those like you have mounting these bullshit fucking lineups and a team
that that needs the wins, not only just like to avoid the fucking depression
of the fan base and just embarrassing yourself as a franchise and coaching players,
a team that needs the wins because Kate cunninghamers, you have to get w's
yet, Jay and Ivies you have to get ws at Ja Dery, you
had to get ws yet. You don't want them to lose their focus to
get used to this either. You need the wins more than anything. And
here he is close games all bench lineup for the it doesn't matter. I
mean, at this point, no matter either way. They're not playing any
dead. The team is dead. I doubt any of these players re signed,
Like, yeah, it's cool to have them, Now watch them.
Mike can't. Nobody's coming, nobody's staying, nobody wants to play for the
Pistons. They're fucking trash. That'll do it for us today. Appreciate you
all tapping in. Spend more Rex speaks new episode, dropping out pick for
Ingram and some Nick or Chris. I'm Spencer. It doesn't matter who they
trade or who they bring in. The system is garbage. The team is
garbage, and the organization is garbage. Because the garbage, it will never
get better. As long as Tom Gorse owns this, We'll see you guys
later. Peace sell the team, Tom,