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Everybody. Welcome to I on the
Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jagon Zos. Got a guy Jason in today

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for a couple of hours. Welcome
to Tuesday. A lot of things going

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on as usual. Let me ask
you, Jay, So, so for

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thirteen months, a lot of people
hemmed in hot and stowed and wondered what

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and all this did the did the
hype of the change or possible change meet

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the expectations when it's all over,
I think it did. I think,

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you know, as much was written
said about it for all all those thirteen

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months that once it got, you
know, once we find out what it

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was, I think it was.
I mean, I think what happened was

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monumental for for for not just college
football, but college athletics. And I

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think it was I think if I
think if the Pac twelve would have held

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together and that and we would have
kind of stayed where we were, it

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would kind of been anticlimactic, but
since there was this huge change of what

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this thing's gonna look like, I
think it, it became an even bigger

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deal, actually than than than it
seemed that it was going to be.

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In fact, before the show started, you were talking about Sanky and what

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he was talking about. Then everybody's
either as their opinion right over whether it's

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good or bad or what it means
for football. But tell me what he

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was saying and how you and your
thoughts about well. Greg Sanky was on

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Paul Feine Bob Show today on ESPN
and he said that he goes, I

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know that we're the ones that went
and got Texas in Oklahoma, but you

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know, we were kind of like, you know, we're still geographically aligned,

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YadA, YadA, YadA. And
he said, but what's happened since

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then and make has made me feel
really uncomfortable. And I wouldn't say you,

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but had you started this he started
this uncomfortable way, what I think

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what is what his exact words were, Uh, let let me find what

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his exact words were. Uh,
but it was basically that I was uncomfortable

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with what happened last week. It's
funny. It's okay that we did it,

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but I didn't want to see everybody
else, right, But then everybody

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else did, and that now that
now it's a bad deal because everybody else

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did did what we did. I
find that the hypocrisy on in that is

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just incredible. Let's remember that.
And it's incredible but typically typical. Let

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me say this too, though,
in the next few years, I don't

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know how many years it's gonna happen
again, and it's gonna expand even more

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and and and that's fine I and
I, you know, all along,

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I kind of felt like at some
point this was going to I think this

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is gonna blow up again in five
or six years when these contracts are and

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that's when I think we get to
where there's like, you know, what,

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what we've talked about, you know, sixty teams in four conferences or

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whatever, you know, relegate potential
relegation and and and all that kind of

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stuff where you know, not everybody
gets to play in the big boy sandbox.

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And I think that that's ultimately where
we're headed. But what I've got

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a problem with right now is that
you know what happened happened, but don't

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sit there and say, well,
we did it and it was okay,

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but now these other guys did it
and that was crap. That is,

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but that's typical of the arrogance of
the SEC. It really is. He

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said, I didn't like to see
the PAC twelve falling apart. Well,

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you helped it fall apart. You
pulled the street, right you. You

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pulled the first Jengle you know,
Jengle block out of there, and then

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the Big ten pulled the last one. So don't tell me you're sorry to

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see what happened. When what you
did led to all of this, let

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me say too. And I don't
know much about the media rights and all

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that stuff. I know it's worth
a lot of money. I didn't know

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that Apple was in bed with the
Fox on TV. I guess it is

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ourselves watching the rally, the Rally
on Valley or Belly on Rally, whatever

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it was. Uh and and Jay
and John said yesterday that in time.

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I know he's just talking but he
doesn't know. But it could very well

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happen where Apple comes in and buys
does everything right, I guess what will

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stream. Well, that's the way
the tea maybe the way it is.

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And yeah, right, I will
pay one hundred bucks whatever a year to

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watch these things. Uh and for
different teams. I guess they do that

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at MLB. I did not know
that because I don't watch m MLB,

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has A has a two MLB mls
and then don't forget there's there, there's

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Sunday ticket. You know. That's
a streaming thing. That's a totally streaming

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thing. Now. Whereas before,
if you had direct TV, you could

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channel Surf on Direct TV to the
games, now it's on YouTube TV.

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It's one hundred percent streaming and it
costs more. Yeah, it costs than

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it did. So you're gonna have
to really be a big fan right of

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doing You're wanting to get used to
doing that. Yeah, you're gonna get

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You're gonna have at some point you're
gonna have to get used to. I'm

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not gonna be able to channel Surf
the way I do now because if I've

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got Comcast or Cox or whatever cable
company that you have, I found,

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he said, Greg sank you said
it wasn't a great feeling to see what

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happened last week. I would say
you launched on that. Sure, No,

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he did. So, JA shouldn't
just be aware you might have a

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job after you graduate. It might
be me and figuring out how to fix

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my phone, how to find these
games. Little tutoring. Yeah, yeah,

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but no, no, I'm just
gonna it's like I told you yesterday.

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It's like fixing my BCR or my
little thing. You know, did

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your program this for me? Please? You know, look, I'm I'm

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not dabbling in this. I mean, I've got some streaming services. I

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do have Apple TV, right,
but I got what do you get from

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it? Movies? There's some you
know, there's an MLB Game of the

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Week, so there may be a
Dodger game on a Friday that's blacked out

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everywhere else. The only place you
can get it is on Apple TV.

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So I've got that, and I
pay for an Apple TV subscription. It's

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only eight bucks seven bucks a month. Not a big deal. According to

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when Robins talked yesterday, he said
that the PAC twelve might might have cost

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a hundred hundred bucks a year.
Whatever that is. Yeah, so,

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uh, you know, I I
do that. I've got I've got well

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through my cable, I've got HBO
Max, I've got ESPN plus, I've

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got I've got subscriptions because I because
I get them through my cable, but

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I would have I think I would
have those subscriptions if I didn't have cable.

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I've done the math to see if
I should go to YouTube TV and

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then all these other streaming things.
But the problem again is I'm a channel

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sir. I'm not ready to do
that yet. And it's more well,

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part of what was holding me back
was that you couldn't get the PAC twelve

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network on YouTube TV. If I'm
not going to need it started in twenty

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twenty four, I may go ahead
and cut the cord. It's say it

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would save me money. But what
was holding me back was PAC twelve network

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wasn't on YouTube TV. And you
can channel Surf on YouTube TV, but

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so many of the things that you're
gonna channel Surf two aren't on YouTube TV.

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God, I'm glad I don't know
anything about any of that. I'll

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tell you what if if we can
hold this show together for a couple more

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years, I'll show you how to
works. No, No, Jay,

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I mean, Jason, how do
you watch TV? I don't watch TV.

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You don't watch I don't watch I
mean you watch stuff on your phone?

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Yeah? I watch you know Okay, you watch programs on your phone?

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YouTube, Netflix, that's to me, that's TV. Okay, you

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know I'm talking about watching programming that's
on the screen. How do you watch?

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So yeah, I'll watch like streaming
like you know Hulu. That's what

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I'm talking about. Yeah, right, No, my dad does your dad?

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Well, okay, somebody pays,
but you watch it just on your

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phone? Do you have an iPad
on your computer? Computer? And my

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phone? Okay, that's how you
watch. Yeah. But when I say

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television, I'm talking about you're watching
programs that are on a screen and not

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just Yeah, I came for sure, but that all everything you watch is

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streaming. Yeah, I just remember, Yeah, I mean Steve, he's

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the future. No, No,
of course, anybody under thirty, probably

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your son is that way. He's
he's broken it. He's the only thing

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he's He's got Comcast Internet, uh, the fastest speed he can get.

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I remember when I was I was
the remote. Did you see there was

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a thing on h Do you ever
do you follow super seventy sports on Twitter?

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I'm gonna send you. You gotta
follow him. He's hilarious and just

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a couple of days ago, he
posted a picture of one of those big

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giants TVs that sat on the floor, big cabinet, and he said,

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he said, from back in the
day when I was the remote control.

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I used to be the remote son. Get up and turn the channel.

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But the good thing is only a
three channels, so you don't we had

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four, actually five we had.
We had Channel eleven, which is with

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the local cheap. I don't out
there because we never went there. Hey,

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we had championship wrestling on that local
and that's where all the Arizona games

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that weren't broadcast on well they're almost
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That's where we got our Arizona sports
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It's KAZYAZ at the time. I
think it's CAMSB now right, okay,

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anybody want to call Phillison, what's
going on in your lives? Whatever?

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Five? Two, four, one, six, seventy four forty good

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show today, A lot of news
type of stuff today. Right. Brett

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Ferrock, we saw him at the
press conference at the Tommy Lloyd and not

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Tommy Lloyd, the uh Bobby Robbins
Dave Hicky press conference as him to come

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on. We just want to talk
to him about you know, he's a

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sports editor at theaters on the daily
start, well what's in store for the

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for them covering the Big twelve and
not so much talking about all the travel

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and stuff. Just you know,
we're now we're talking different deadlines, uh,

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you know, different teams, just
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you know, getting up to speed
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And then at four four fifteen,
Bruce Pasco, who's heading out with

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with the basketball team to uh Israel
on their trip. You say he's gonna

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be out on the layover when we
talked about Yeah, he's no, No,

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that was supposed to be Tomorrow's fine, So he's he's still in town.

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They I guess they head out.
He's gonna be covering the basketball team

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on their trips. We're going to
pick his brain about about that trip,

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and it's gonna be very secretive.
They have yet to announce any any viewing

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because of that, they're not gonna
tell people where they're at. I think

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Bruce has been not that they dictate
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Watch what you're saying about the team, right, Bruce, It sounded like

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yesterday, I know Tommy was poking
at him a little bit, but he's

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on a little bit of a leash
in terms of what he can and can't

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say about this trip. The thing
he was poking him about was, you

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know, you can't be reporting back
that you know that this guy started,

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so that makes him a starter.
Everybody's gonna play and so don't you know,

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don't be reporting back that this five
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a starting lineup for them, right, So that's why he's gonna be,

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well, not why he's gonna play. Everybody. Everyone's gonna have equal time,

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different starters at all different points.
So to the this is just more

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of a trip getting together, bonding, uh, seeing how the guys react,

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stuff like that. I probably the
more valuable thing in all of it

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was the ten full practices that they
got very much that they wouldn't have gotten

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if they weren't doing this pretty much
to get a look at his team.

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So, I mean, there's some
value to this. And I know,

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you know from not I know,
but we saw from the conversation with Palt

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Larson and Umar ballis they're more interested
in the basketball and yeah, they're gonna

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go do all the cultural stuff that
Tommy's got. Come on, dude,

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you're going to you go to San
Francisco, you go to disnealand with the

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family. The kids don't care about
the trip. Are we there yet?

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Let's get there and let's get on
space. Sure, sure, they don't

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care about the quitterre we eating today? You're paying for it. So they

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just want to get out there and
play some basketball. And as you said,

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some of these guys are in the
national players Internationals like a regular thing

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for them. Sure, sure,
well, which is great, you know.

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The good for the domestic guys,
fantastic. Many of them haven't left

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the country. I know. I
would have been very fun. It would

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have been very fun to have you
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Not on my own, but those
were Olympics. Those are Olympics.

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Thankfully I got someone else paid for
otherwise I wouldn't. I'm not a big

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after all these travels, I'm a
big traveler. I'm not a big traveler

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either. I mean I've been I've
been overseas for some work, been to

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China a couple of times, went
to the those China basketball games. Those

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are controlled. They were they were. I was with the group. But

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my wife and I did go to
UH, to Italy and Germany and Austria

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as a sort of a kind of
a late honeymoon kind of thing. It

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wasn't really a late honeymoon. I
got extorted, I got told that we

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weren't gonna have any kids. But
I took my wife to Europe. So

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I immediately signed us up and we
went to Europe. It's called marriage,

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yeah, those low poles. Yeah, And I'm and I'm telling you the

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the actual language of that was not
too far off of what I just said.

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You give us a call. That's
true. It's a true story.

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And UH. And so for our
I think it was our first anniversary.

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I got I went and I booked
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really so that that would have been
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this trip in UH in March.
It's been thirty one years now since we

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went on that trip. And we
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clinics? I want to cry,
give me some And it was cool,

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dude. Maybe you know, maybe
by doing stuff like that, Steve,

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you might still be married some lady
who maybe like get you. I couldn't

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say any Chris the next subject,
next subject question. Okay, so let's

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get ready to take a break.
We can have a fara on today.

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Brett Farah. Come, he's fresh
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into something right, right. But
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then he's Greg Hanson's boss. Yeah,

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which I don't even Greg. Greg
still writing this around? Yeah, hero,

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Hero a Sunday column. He's in
parts unknown. Come on, he's

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well, he's up. He's up
in Colorado, man place. Greg,

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good by us over here. We'll
do the show from there exactly. Okay,

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Okay, let's get out of here
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back to our of the ball here
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Ribera, he's jackins Oz. You
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Brett at a little late in the
in the break before we started dialings we'll

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get him here in a second.
But you know, just again, man,

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what's the what does all this mean? Now? There's a lot,

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I mean, so many impacts of
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you know, we talked about all
the stuff within the you know, the

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schools, the travel, all those
things. But then you know guys like

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the guys you know, covers who
cover sports, you know, the media,

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the TV networks all that stuff well
as you know, and we'll talk

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about this one when it comes from
but a TV isn't traveling as much as

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they used to. Uh, you
know, given the COVID situation, They're

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they're doing games from home or not
from home from the studio. Jason,

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I'll have him call us from the
studio. In fact, I ran into

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the hike today after the press governs
in the halls, and he talked about,

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you know, the changes. I
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and I said, you know,
realistically, over the last few years,

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there are only three dudes that trans
traveled with the team. It was me,

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Bruce and Greg consistently for all these
years. The periphery people didn't travel

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until Vegas or sent or whatever.
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They ain't going to the Big twelve. They're not going to those sites.

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the conference tournaments and stuff like that. But I don't see how you know,

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where where the where the news media
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those places. Yeah, not anymore, and and and and it might be

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tough for the Star given the frequency
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Right, so we'll see. Hey, Brad, is that you okay?

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Brad? Sorry about that. We're
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which happens from time you are on
the air, So we appreciate your colleague.

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All right, So, well,
we just wanted to get into this

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with you about first, just give
us you're you know, you're a sports

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fan. I assume you are,
since you're a sports editor. Just some

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of your thoughts about all that maybe
went on for the last thirteen months,

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you know, do you hate it? You know? Are you okay with

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what we wound up? What overall
thoughts about everything that's happened. Well,

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I think and I know, Ma
that going a lot of people's sentiments.

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I think losing the Pac twelve and
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fact and for so long is a
shame, and I think that echoes what

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we all think. I think that
echoes what Robert Robbins has said with Dave,

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he has said in the end for
Arizona. Of course, I think

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it's the right move considering everything that
happened. I may be in the minority

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on this. I believe Robert Robbins
was what he said yesterday that he was

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ready to sign in blood for the
PAC twelve on Friday morning. I actually

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believed him. I have no reason
to say I believed him or not.

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I just heard him say it,
and he becomes off believable in that thought.

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That doesn't mean that would have even
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believe that's what he intended. I
think that he comprehends sort of the second

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to market strategy of you know,
let somebody else take that poise until first,

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and when Oregon and Washington did it, you know he was ready.

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It was interesting when we were able
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process when you mentioned the thirteen months, it feels like for how much they

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were able to sort of prepare for
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two weeks was just break next pace
as well. Yeah, so I guess

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as prepared as you can be,
you can't ever be too prepared, because

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it sounded like B and DPP were
in a room with whiteboards and you know,

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pizza boxes and just banging out ideas
NonStop until they came up with option

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one, Option one D and Option
one C. And you know, one

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of those ultimately ended up being the
Big twelve. So, Brett, we've

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been talking about streaming and linear and
all that stuff. You're about what forty

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forty yeah, forty forty one.
So so are you? You're right on

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the custom of of the TV era
and now the online era. It's gonna

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go eventually to the online era.
How are you? How are you feeling

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about that? And and the and
the newspaper business has changed dramatically in the

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last ten years too well. I
think I think if I use this in

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terms of the Pact swelve, if
the Pacwelves CEOs the presidents would have decided

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to stick around and give it a
go, I think it would have been

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growing pains before the success. I
don't think in this one area that Larry

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Scott was wrong eight nine years ago
when he talked about non linear programming.

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He has the future. It's just
to get there you have to be willing

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to risk the pitfalls and the values. And the PAC twelve would have struggled

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for a few years. Whether the
pacwelve network would have failed in the process

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of that, whether the schools themselves
would have been able to withstand the financial

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problems that that you know, potentially
could have been if those numbers weren't what

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with being or if the escalators were
in place the same way. That's obviously

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something we'll never know. But eventually, at some point, the idea of

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a non linear solid structure to one
of these deals is going to be the

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deal. It's just that the pactweal
presidents weren't ready. The one fit departs

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weren't ready for that today. So
the linear and nonlinear packaging that the Big

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twelve and Big ten offers these schools
was good enough for today, tomorrow,

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and at least the next couple of
years. So, so Arizona is in

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the PAC twelve, I mean in
the Big twelve next starting next year.

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Is there something or some things that
you guys have to do to get ready

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for that or you just kind of
take it as it comes and do what

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you need to do. I mean, how do you prepare for something like

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this. It's such a major change
to not only what you cover, but

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who you cover. I think it's
actually fun in this sense because for the

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next eleven months we now have any
different pieces of different angles to go with

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on this story. Justin Spears,
who's really good at sort of touching that

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younger than millennial way of looking at
things in you know, a top twelve

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list or a top fifteen list,
things like that. He's he's working on

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kind of really breaking down all the
cities in different ways. And I think,

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I think from a coverage standpoint,
it opens up a lot of fun.

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I think to what you guys were
saying before I got on the air

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about travel, and think that's TV
for to be seen and that's going to

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affect us too. I think,
I know my issue with travel and not

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travel is not so much our bety
outlets there anymore. In person. I

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think that from a TV standpoint,
what Fox and some of these areas have

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been able to do by having folks
in studios and saving the dollars and things

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like that is not a problem,
except that they're lying about it on the

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air. I don't think they're purposely
lying, but they're they're making it look

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like with backdrops that they're in the
booth looking down at the stadium, and

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at some point, be honest.
Everyone is going to figure it out in

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this era of social media, and
so we have to follow the same path.

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If we don't send people the games, we have to be honest about

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where we're getting our information from and
our reporters. If that ends up happening,

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I don't foresee that to the same
degree. But if it's not,

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there are plenty of sports. We
don't get to spend our reporters to everything

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a way to be unique and offer them

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that's that's a hard thing. But I

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don't see that as as a problem
as much as just the challenge we have

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to work through. And I don't
believe that for sends basketball, football,

406
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and even women's basketball in the city
now, especially being in a conference that

407
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includes Baylor and enough competition in the
Big twelve, and god forbid, they

408
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expand and add Yukon basketball like has
been talked about a little bit and by

409
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a little bit. You know,
women's basketball would be huge. We talk

410
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about hands, it's coming up the
sale. What if someday it's Yukon and

411
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.160
Arizona going back and forth between stores
and Tucson. I think those three sports

412
00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.720
we are going to travels is going
to continue. It's not going to change,

413
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but it's going to be interesting.
You know, we the three of

414
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us, talked about this yesterday.
You know, the idea of the packwelve

415
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tournament being gone out of Black Vegas, at least in terms of Arigona's playing,

416
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Kansas City is going to be the
home. That's ku stopping ground.

417
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.039
That's a big change for fan travel, media, travel, the teams,

418
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everything involved. So I think all
of that is going to be really fascinating

419
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.400
to watch how it plays out once
so they's going. So I arrived here

420
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.279
in eighty seven, it was an
intern in at the daily start at eighty

421
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five. I want to throw a
number out here. Maybe in in this

422
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.759
toll time, six or seven sports
editors have come through, Jay. I

423
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think you provide six or seven a
number of them. You're at at the

424
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doorstep of a new era with the
Big twelve. Obviously changes new staffs and

425
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:53.359
smaller staffs. How are you feeling
about all this? You know, I

426
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.160
wish we had a bigger staff.
I think anyone would say that, just

427
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because it would be amazing to be
able to staff everythingle event that is important

428
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:06.319
and big in the city. But
at the same time, I don't think

429
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:11.440
that there is a point in watching
sports. You know, you guys said

430
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.279
something interesting when I came on.
He said that I'm you would assume I'm

431
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:18.039
a sports fan. I am a
fan of sport. I struggle to be

432
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.960
a sports fan because I have personal
connections to a lot of things, but

433
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:26.359
the concept of sport and what it
is to society, and we only have

434
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.440
to look back three years ago and
sitting on our count is wondering what are

435
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.039
we going to do with ourselves while
we're all quarantining, sitting around waiting,

436
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.039
trying to sneak into grocery stores at
off hours so there's not a lot of

437
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:38.400
people there. And as soon as
Major League Baseball came back, the amount

438
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:42.960
of hours I spent watching Major League
Baseball for the first time. I mean

439
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.519
I always watched baseball, but not
to that degree. It was important and

440
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.519
it was vital to my own well
being, and I think coming out of

441
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.240
all of that into this. I
take what Jed Fish said the heart to

442
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.920
his players. He told us this
on I believe it was last Friday.

443
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:03.359
He said, you know, I
told my players that they are not just

444
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.640
seeing a historical moment right now,
but they're the group that went through how

445
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.759
sports impact or pensive pandemic impacted sports, and I l and the changes to

446
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.880
that. Then you throw this on
top, It's pretty amazing how much massive

447
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.039
change has happened in the shortener design. And for that, I'm excited and

448
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.599
I feel very lucky to be one
of the handful of people, not as

449
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.519
many as fifteen twenty years ago,
but the handful of people in this town

450
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:27.319
are going to be a part of
it. So, you know, there's

451
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.240
been a lot of talk, you
know, not just you, but I

452
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:36.079
think sports editors everywhere about how,
you know, you cover stuff differently because

453
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:37.839
as you said, you don't you
know, you don't have the staff to

454
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:42.319
go cover everything, so you try
and find it interesting things to cover about

455
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:49.079
a given you know sport or you
know you know, uh players or whatever.

456
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.759
It's just different now. I mean, how important is you know,

457
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.000
the record, you know, the
box score to what you guys, do

458
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.960
now or are you letting people get
that from wherever they get it from and

459
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:07.119
you kind of get deeper and use
your staff that way. I think that's

460
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.559
a great question, and it depends
on the sport and it depends on how

461
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:14.480
our You know, people ain't talking
about this because we should be able to

462
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:18.000
just cover the most important things,
but there has to be an understanding of

463
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.400
what is more important than of one
thing to another to the audience, and

464
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.319
digital analytics really help with that for
us to be able to be able to

465
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.680
sit here and say that, look, the end result in terms of the

466
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.440
minutia of how a game ended.
In Major League Baseball, when there's one

467
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.680
hundred and sixty two games, isn't
as important as the fact that di'mond backs

468
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.519
to law sixth straight and are falling
out. The Angels haven't won in the

469
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:44.039
month of August's quite deciding to keep
ocnning. So covering things that I'm talking

470
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.279
on twothon level obviously, but covering
things has to go deeper than the numbers

471
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.200
like that. You guys, I
know, I believe are having Bruce Pass

472
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:52.960
go on in the next hour,
and I believe Bruce is going to get

473
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.880
to talk about where he's heading tomorrow, and that's part of it. You

474
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:01.039
know, we're investing financially and sending
Bruce to the Middle East on this script

475
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:06.400
where the UF basketball team is going
to Israel Nabudhabi. It's not just because

476
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.599
Bruce gets the cool strip out of
the deal, but it's because, you

477
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:13.880
know, access has changed to players
and being able to introduce athletes in situations

478
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.440
and coaches who are accessible, like
Tommy Lloyd, but in different ways,

479
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:21.119
in unique ways. I'm not we're
going to send Bruce the whole season,

480
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.559
don't get me wrong, but this
is an important investment for us financially to

481
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:28.640
pay for a plane ticket and hotels
because what he can bring back to Tucson

482
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.400
by being one of the only media
outlets there. It's not the only one,

483
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.960
it's so unique compared to being one
of thirty they're in the teams.

484
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.640
So it's understanding the balance point of
those two things and knowing when Tony Enup

485
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:44.640
is worth it to bring an audience
that cares so much about a topic,

486
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:49.680
something different and unique and new compared
to the same thing every day. We're

487
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.640
still going to cover the team every
day in the same way, but This

488
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.000
is just one example where we are
putting a premium on those unique moments and

489
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.119
elements to the sports. So here's
here's the rub though, And I know

490
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:05.160
that the UA doesn't dictate what you
guys write or what can or can I

491
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.759
write. They're kind of limiting what
he can write in a weird way.

492
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:14.640
Do you mean in what sense,
like on a day to day basis covering

493
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.400
a team? Right? Yeah,
no, And that's exactly why. Like,

494
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:22.279
that's why in a case like this, going on this trip for eleven

495
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:27.000
days and owning that coverage for our
audience, meaning making sure that we're delivering

496
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:31.039
that to an audience that wants something
beyond conference realignment talking things is really important

497
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.720
on a day to day basis.
You're actually right, you guys are there

498
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:39.759
the same kind of storylines get shifted
between the different outlets around town. How

499
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.720
they write AM is different, and
that's actually kind of fun from a sports

500
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:47.000
media standpoint. But the audience has
much less of a connection to the athletes

501
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.319
than they did many years ago.
I remember, and I might have shared

502
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.480
this with you guys recently, but
I remember when Ed granted there was the

503
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:58.960
Sean Miller situation and book Richardson Saga
and all of that going on at the

504
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.960
time. But I member when Justin
Spears talks to DeAndre een in the locker

505
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.880
room at the Packs Flow basketball tournament
in Las Vegas for the first time anyone

506
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:12.039
talks to DeAndre eighteen in like seven
months, and he was a stand up

507
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.639
comedian in that room, and yet
no one knew it and no one got

508
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.159
that opportunity. So, you know, situations like this, the chance to

509
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.719
send Bruce and have him get to
potentially interact and we don't know how that's

510
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.800
going to be on the trip,
but he's going to work his magic and

511
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:29.960
potentially interact with these young people in
a way that we won't necessarily see during

512
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:34.639
the season. It's really important to
a captive audience in Suson and so you're

513
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.079
right, we constantly have to look
at different ways to tell the stories of

514
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.599
not just what's going on in the
business side, but who these dung people

515
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.519
are. You know, I don't
love the term seing athletes, but they're

516
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:52.159
students and their athletes and they're interesting
and I think we have more wanting eyes

517
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.960
and ears to that, but less
opportunity to tell it. So the creativity

518
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.480
is huge to your point. Yeah, no, no, perfect stuff and

519
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:04.679
very act you're Yeah, thanks Brett
as usual, Thank good luck, than

520
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:10.079
you have fun with the job.
I laughed. Yeah, okay, cool,

521
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:13.880
Yeah, Bruce's gonna come on the
other side. Bruce is more to

522
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:15.719
day. You know, he's more
a matter of facts, you know,

523
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.920
you know, and I you know, i'd be interesting to see what you

524
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.840
know. I mean, they clearly
well you would think that if they're gonna

525
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:27.159
invest this kind of money to go
on a trip like this, they've kind

526
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.000
of mapped out how they want to
cover it, sure, what they want

527
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:31.920
to do, what's gonna come back. They're gonna get clicks because people are

528
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.599
gonna want to read about it because
nobody else is going to cover that.

529
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.639
Right, But you know they're not
being followed by the athletic right, you

530
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.880
may get scores of games which you're
not going to get, you know.

531
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:46.360
And we'll talk to him, because
Tommy has been very adamant, if that's

532
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:51.719
right word to him saying this is
you're not gonna be able to have access

533
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.239
like you think you're gonna have access
to uh, but you're gonna have access.

534
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.239
Yeah, you know, he's only
gonna have more access than you're sure,

535
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.519
sure, so let's the money worth
the trip? Probably? Yeah,

536
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.719
but dot dot dot we'll see.
Okay, let's take a break, all

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584
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forty we'll push something for Sigma.
So how does cal and Stanford in the

585
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:50.039
Atlantic Coast Conference sound? Yeah,
it's just strange. It's just strange.

586
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.840
Honestly, it's just strange. During
the break, I was reading in a

587
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pad forty column on on Sports Illustrated
and just like it just everything's just been

588
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:04.559
thrown into the wind. You know, well, being regional, uh you

589
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know, you know, the whole
the whole footprint thing, your tradition,

590
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:15.280
rivalries, Uh, you know,
the academics, it's just all out the

591
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.480
window. Now it's just like who
can get us the most money? All

592
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.079
right, let's take this call.
Ah, you're on there and I on

593
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.960
the ball. Yeah, how are
you guys doing? I had a idea

594
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:32.960
for Bruce on his big strip.
It seems like part with part of the

595
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.480
reason why they don't want a lot
of reporting for d Force security. Yes,

596
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:44.559
that's definitely the case. I wondered. Could could he do a blog

597
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:47.880
or a journal that could be published
after he got back. I'm sure he

598
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.519
can. They're not gonna limit him
totally. They're not gonna say and you

599
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.440
can't do this. But but security
is one of the reasons why he's gonna

600
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:59.480
do his job. There's no question
about it. It's just gonna be limited.

601
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.440
Yeah, there's gonna be some questions
as to how much he can say

602
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.880
on a given day. Yeah,
Like, but for us sports fans,

603
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.719
it would be interesting to read even
after the fact. Oh yeah, of

604
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.320
course, of course. I think. Well, if you stay tuned for

605
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.440
Yeah, we're gonna have Bruce in
about a half hour and he'll explain more.

606
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:22.199
We just throwing it out there,
and thanks again for all your your

607
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:27.440
coverage during all the chaos last week. What do you make of it?

608
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.599
What do you make of it?
What do you make of it? Well,

609
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.760
you know, I think it's inevitable, and you know, you gotta

610
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:38.800
trust Robbins and hekey and you know, the one thing I wondered is you

611
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:45.639
have a wanted to go with or
without AFU and UH and Utah. Well,

612
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:51.519
what would have happened if they've holed
Big ten and when all the corner

613
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:59.320
schools go head us add at a
discount? I guess I'm not sure understand

614
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:04.519
your questions to say that again,
So Washington and Oregon went to the Big

615
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:09.480
pen at a discount? Well,
I was. I was a firm believer

616
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:15.920
in what uh doctor Robbins was saying, is we want to go, whether

617
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:20.239
ASU wants to go or not,
whether your pa wants to go or not.

618
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.679
And when we all bundled, my
only concern was maybe, uh,

619
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.679
they wouldn't give us full value.
No, I think I think all along

620
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.119
Arizona going to the Big twelve was
always going to be at full value.

621
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:37.440
But Robbins had said a number of
times they could go without a SU although

622
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.400
they didn't really want to. And
then well that was that was fine with

623
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.599
me, as long as we could
always have the Territorial Cup at the beginning

624
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:53.719
of the year. And Uh,
it would have increased the rivalry. Did

625
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:58.199
your name again? I know you
call every now and again. I'm John,

626
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.960
So John, you sound like one
of us, an older guy.

627
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.760
I'm sorry if I'm wrong with that. But would you would you be okay

628
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.920
to do the streaming stuff? Are
you good at that? Well, I'm

629
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:14.400
seventy four and I do stream,
but uh, but it's difficult, you

630
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.440
know what I mean. I've tried
different streaming services and I've had troubles.

631
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:22.519
And my son who helps me is
in Phoenix, so I don't always have

632
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:27.360
a young person to help me do
it. And uh, I really understand

633
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:35.039
the whole linear thing beyond the streaming, that for the exposures for the athletes

634
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:39.719
and the conference and the brand and
the benefit for the new time zones,

635
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:43.920
and uh, you know, I
think it's going to be interesting. But

636
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.880
to answer your question, I do
know how to stream, and I don't

637
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:52.880
have I don't have table interesting all
right, I'm hanging on me. I'm

638
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.400
hanging on I might have to borrow
your son from a moment or two.

639
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.920
Yeah, but I mean it's your
business, so you guys got to have

640
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.400
of it all. And I certainly
understand the bouncing back and forth from linear

641
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:08.119
to yeah, in linear as opposed
to streaming. And I probably would have

642
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:15.800
bought Apple. I never Yeah,
I didn't have direct TV. Yeah yeah,

643
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.480
okay, well I did have.
I did have streaming problems with the

644
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:22.920
back twelve. Yeah, okay,
John, thank you very much, appreciate

645
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.719
the call. I think he's typical
of you know, yeah, we're gonna

646
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:31.719
stream at some point because we have
to. And I streamed some, but

647
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:37.800
I still my basis is around cave. So so in listening to some of

648
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.719
the other presidents and talking, I'm
sure you listened to some of the others

649
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:45.679
and they were talking about it was
kind of like, uh, scientific stuff.

650
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.159
They were talking about stuff they didn't
understand right, kind of like me.

651
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:51.679
But they were saying and yesterday or
two days ago, when doctor Robbins

652
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:53.880
was talking about the stats, how
they'd have them kind of come up and

653
00:44:53.960 --> 00:45:00.280
they'd have highlights and things like that. That sounds real cool. Events it's

654
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:01.519
gonna be George Jetson the type of
stuff. No, it is, and

655
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:04.480
that that's where we're here to.
I mean, we're we're at to a

656
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.280
point where and part of this is
being accelerated by the whole gambling aspect of

657
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.920
this. You know, there's gonna
be like, like I just saw that

658
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.840
somebody's putting is gonna be going excuse
me, pretty soon or maybe already is

659
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:22.280
where you can bet on every golf
shot in the tournament to what to what

660
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.639
to do whatever. You can say, this guy's gonna hit it on the

661
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.280
green or he's gonna miss the green, or you know, like there's a

662
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.639
golf shot coming up, and if
you're quicken up, you can put a

663
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:31.360
bet down. Well, don't they
do that in football? He did in

664
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:35.199
Vegas whether they can run her pass
or yeah, yeah, there's something.

665
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.039
There's something that going on and in
different leagues are looking at doing stuff like

666
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:43.840
that where you can bet not just
on a game, you can bet on

667
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.960
a play and those kinds of things. And that's the kind of stuff where

668
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:51.519
you know, we're you know,
again, the technology has to be that

669
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:53.800
you know, if you're watching it
live. Let's say you're sitting in the

670
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:58.760
stadium and you're seeing a play as
it happens, that if somebody's in their

671
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.880
living room, they got to be
seeing it at the exact same time.

672
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:04.960
You know, if you ever saw
the staying right, you ever see the

673
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.840
sting that they were what they called
pass posting, and that's how they set

674
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.719
up there, the scam that they
that they had. But you know,

675
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.000
I mean, you know, I
just today I'll tell you. So I

676
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:22.440
had I had Dan Patrick on my
on Peacock on my TV streaming, and

677
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:24.840
and then I was in another room
and so I had it on on my

678
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:30.800
phone and I'm listening to it off
of the iHeart app. And they were

679
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:36.079
not simultaneous, they were not the
same. One was ahead of the other.

680
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.320
Why are you doing this? You're
gonna you're the guy who studies too

681
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.599
much and forgets everything. No,
I was just listening to the show.

682
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.239
But he left right. No,
they were the same show. So they

683
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.000
do that at home. And I
was listening to you she's listening to what

684
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:50.199
they were talking about, and I
was. I had to leave the room

685
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.679
for work on TV, so I
wanted to keep hearing it. And it

686
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.039
was it wasn't that happens to be
in my living room, in my bedroom

687
00:46:57.079 --> 00:46:59.199
where it's not. They're not.
I don't know what it is, but

688
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:02.480
it's not. Like I was watching
the Dodging game, right, I had

689
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:08.519
the Dodge Game and so I had
it on my computer screen. But then

690
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:15.280
I had the game cast on my
phone because and I was getting the play

691
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:21.320
on game cast before I was seeing
it. Oh yeah, because someone takes

692
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.280
me. Hey, the Orioles won
or lost, and I'm thinking it's not

693
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.400
over. You know it's over.
Or if you ever tried to listen,

694
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.400
you don't do this, and I
do this. You know, I put

695
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:34.480
I take headphones to you a football
game, right and Brian Jefferies is just

696
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.280
a scoche behind the play. Okay, you don't just look. And that's

697
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:43.480
if you're listening to it directly on
the radio. You know, I take

698
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.039
a little radio things I hooked to
my belt. If you put him on

699
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:52.320
the app, you're sometimes you're seconds
delayed, crazy, Okay, okay,

700
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:57.199
And that's where we're headed, Steve, I mean we're headed, no question.

701
00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.360
And then and the technology is just
gonna get better better. You know,

702
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.320
my brother talks about he did not
go to the Arizona Ble this year

703
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.760
for the first time. I'm not
even sure why, but he didn't go.

704
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.199
So he watched the Barstool Sports.
Yeah. Yeah, there were problems

705
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:15.199
with the with the buffery and that's
the number one reason. That's the number

706
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:22.280
one thing. And some people talked
about who was it, uh that would

707
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.760
direct TV. There's some real worries
about that because the direct if he's gonna

708
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:28.760
be on YouTube TV, YouTube TV
did a game of some sort, and

709
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.519
they were having trouble, uh,
you know, staying up with it.

710
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:34.920
You're watching direct TV. You want
to see you know, you don't get

711
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:38.440
it. Of course, of course
it's like phones were back in the day.

712
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:40.800
You just had to kind of catch
up. Can you hear me?

713
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.719
Can you hear me now? Blah
blah blah. So it is what it

714
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.239
is. I mean, I think
that Brett explained that very well. Where

715
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:52.119
in the early stagees had backpacked when
taking the taking the streaming thing, there

716
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.920
would have been hiccups, hiccup hiccups. Eventually got it worked out. Years

717
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.159
later it was oh, what a
great deal we came across. I mean,

718
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.719
I remember when we went from uh
from dial up you know, internet

719
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:10.760
to sure you know, sure,
sure you yeah, Well come on,

720
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.880
just in our business alone, we
had we had the bubbles, right,

721
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.880
I had to. I worked with
the bubble. We worked to TRSA,

722
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.760
the RSA, the radio show which
were now you just think, how how

723
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:24.159
did we do that? We had
four lines of texts to be able to

724
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:28.480
see it right right and then and
then they moved on to the kind of

725
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.000
computers and now now we have what
we have, well, we have what

726
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.800
we have yeah, no, those
and that was just within the last twenty

727
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:37.039
five years, thirty years. Yeah, you know, because in yeah,

728
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:38.800
eighty eight, eighty seven eight,
we were carrying the bubbles and then the

729
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:45.880
TSA and then couplers and the couple
I remember a card that I told the

730
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:50.760
Arizona NLV game nineteen eighty six,
eighty seventeen, so it was eighty six,

731
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.719
and they had one of those bubbles
for people don't know what the bubbles

732
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:57.719
it was. It was kind of
a big box with a teeny little computer

733
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.920
screen and a keyboard and you could
trans at your story, but you had

734
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.360
to hook it up to an actual
phone. So I had to take the

735
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.320
headset of a phone and stick it
on the thing, and the UNLV I

736
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.679
had to lift up my my thing, go to a pay phone in the

737
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:15.400
media room and plug it in and
then make the call on the pay phone

738
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.599
and plug it and hold it.
Because they didn't have phone lines in the

739
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:23.159
media did any disconnect or whatever when
the line was it would right if you

740
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:27.119
got a glitch or something like that. No phones in the media room.

741
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.599
Wow at UNLV in that day time, in that day, so how often

742
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.920
did you have to do that?
Like every every game, every game,

743
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.599
every game in every time you follow
the story, right, wow, yeah,

744
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:38.559
when you were working from home or
something, Yeah, yeah, you

745
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:42.159
had that thing. It was about
ten pounds or whatever it was. It

746
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:46.039
was a little box. Yeah.
And then don't forget about the photographers.

747
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:51.079
They had their little litmus. They
had their I don't even want the thing

748
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.079
that spuned. It was it was
a fact. It was. It was

749
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:58.320
a yeah, you put you put
the photo, the color photo on this

750
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:02.480
roller and it would spin like a
fax machine and transmit the yeah, the

751
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:06.880
color. The suitcase too, they
had to do. Yeah, yeah,

752
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:08.920
we stay you know when we traveled, it was with the photographer of myself

753
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:13.320
and then he'd be up doing that
stuff and I'd be upwriding on those things.

754
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.119
Right, Okay, man, the
good old days. Say so,

755
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:21.000
I mean it sounds like carving,
you know, break you know in a

756
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:24.599
stone or something too. When I
was you had to dictate if you didn't

757
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:30.639
have one of those yeah oh yeah, oh yeah yeah. The r s

758
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:35.280
as were like one thousand dollars.
Yeah, google it. It's it's funny.

759
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:39.840
Just the twenty are were calling us
the bubble bubble Google. You'll see,

760
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:43.880
like really they worked with this.
And it's funny because you talked about

761
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:46.199
the typewriter. Yeah, that kind
of there was a typewriter this and then

762
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:51.320
uh yeah he just like carried all
that around. Oh yeah yeah, yeah

763
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:54.320
yeah. I got my terror Stated
run over by a car once and it

764
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:59.599
kept working. It fell off.
I had on the trunk of my car

765
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:01.679
and I took off. It fell
off the back. Somebody ran it overyos

766
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:06.079
for the little keys to pop off, and yeah that kind of stuff.

767
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.639
Yeah, okay, all right,
man, dumb memory lane. All right,

768
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:12.719
let's let's take our break top of
the arm. Jason'll be back breaking

769
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.559
news and uh we'll get after it, so we'll be right back

