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With the Snakes are in town Friday, Saturday, and Sunday Arizona. Then

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it's off to Milwaukee, Los Angeles
and the Cubs. But until then,

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of course, so there was announcements
yesterday from Melissa Powers, the Hamlety County

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prosecutor, about the indictments of Croissan
Dixon, Ryan Brown, and Damario Williams,

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the three individuals that were involved in
the murder of Demaia about ten days

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ago, two weeks ago joining us. Now is that same Melissa Powers.

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Melissa, welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And before we get into

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the actual facts of this case,
I know you've spent many years as a

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Hamlety County judge. You spent before
that many years in the Prosecutor's office as

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an assistant. Now you are the
prosecutor. And one thing I've noticed is

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that when you were a judge,
quite often you did not, in a

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sense take a lot of work home
with you because you had some things to

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read. But now as the prosecutor, you're on call twenty four to seven.

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And when you heard about the case
of getting in a sense murdered on

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some sort of a retaliation deal.
As a mother, yourself This had to

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strike a little bit at your heart
strings, am I correct? Yeah?

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Absolutely? Why? This was a
beautiful young girl, innocent, had nothing

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to do with the situation. She's
in the safety of her own home and

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gets murdered and doesn't even know what
happened. She and her friend there was

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a sweepover at her grandmother's house.
They were dancing and videoing themselves for TikTok

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videos and before they even knew what
happened. I mean, she's dead.

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Awful stuff. Let's walk through the
charges. Some asked a couple of days

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ago on the cases of Ryan Braun
and Quissan Dixon. These are so called

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the trigger man that wasn't there a
death penalty speck available? And I said,

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probably not. But nonetheless, why
is this not a death penalty case?

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Well, the facts do not fit
any of the specifications to make this

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a death penalty case. And then
basically the reason is they would have to

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have that fired intentionally, try trying
to kill with purpose, trying to kill

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um Demaya stay shot into a home
indiscriminately, not even knowing who was in

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the home, And that's why it's
not a death penalty case. This is

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a case though it's an aggravated murder
case. Both of them were indicted.

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The shooters were indicted more aggravated murder, and they faced the maximum possible sentence

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of life in prison without the possibility
of parole. So it's the best that

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we can do for this heinous crime. Kind of walk us through as citizens.

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How does this thing originate? Who
did what when? What was the

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role of Dixon, Brown, and
Williams. Can you talk go back a

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little bit in time as to how
this event began. So in July tenth,

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Dixon and Brown drove to Plainfield Road, Silverton, and the suspect fired

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twenty eight shots into the home on
flank Bille Road. And this was the

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grandmother's home. Her name is Lutitia
Copeland, and her nine year old granddaughter

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and then the granddaughter's friend were inside
the home for a sleepover. They were

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doing. They were not even in
the front of the house. They were

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in the back of the house.
So these these the gun shots went through

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the front of the house into the
next room over or behind it, and

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that's where the girls were located.
Demaiah died instantly, she was shot in

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the chest. The other girl,
a little girl, was grazed by a

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bullet. She's going to recover from
her injuries. And the grandmother she was

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not harmed at all. But I
just can't imagine the trauma that the grandmother

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as well as the other little girl
a friend, what they're experiencing after you

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know, here they are, I
don't think they'll ever feel safe again.

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Everyone should feel safe in their own
home. Here they are in their home,

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and then before you know, in
a split second, one of the

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little girls is murdered. As far
as Demario Williams, some called him early

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on he was the driver, it
appears that is not the case. What

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was the involvement of Demario Williams,
age twenty two in this well. Williams

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was invited for tampering with evidence,
obstruction of justice, caring concealed weapon,

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the vehicular assault, and fairy to
stop after an accident. So if he's

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convicted on all those charges, he
faces a possible sentence of ten years in

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prison. He was the driver.
The following day met with Dixon tried.

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He carried the firearm, the actual
rifle, and a gun case out to

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the car place in the trunk.
Also located in the car was the glock,

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the handgun the firearm, and both
of both firearms were recovered. They

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were under surveillance by the investigators and
detectives from the Sheriff's department, and so

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they were watching them and they watched
to walk out of the house with Dixon

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go into the car. He was
the driver of the vehicle. He also

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was the one that placed the rifle
into the truck or trunk of the car.

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And Prosecutor Melissa Powers kick, can
you tell us between Dixon and Brown

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do we know yet which one fired
the so called fat fatal shot. I

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haven't received the Corners report, so
I don't want to make any comment on

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that. Also, I want to
protects the invest the integrity of the case

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at this point, and I don't
want to disclose too much information at this

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time. As far as the drone
technology, well, what role did drones

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play in the apprehension of these characters. Um, I don't have that information

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to discuss at this time. Again, it's protecting the integrity at the case.

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I don't want to jeopardize it that
trial. All this will come out

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and trial. Okay. As far
as the previous criminal record, Quissan Dixon

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was only twenty five and Ryan Brown
was only twenty seven and Demario Williams twenty

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two. Did any of these characters
have previous criminal records, Yes, thank

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dad. All of them had contacts, multiple contacts with firearms, weapons under

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disability when and convictions and prison sentence
that they received from the judges in Hamilton

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County. So they served their time
on these low level faalonies. Believe it

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or not, having if you're a
convicted balon illegally possessing a firearm, that's

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called a weapons under disability, you're
not permitted to have a firearm. And

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but they're low level salonies with a
presumption of probation. So initially they were

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given probation, then by the probation
by picking up another charge with the weapons

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enter disability, and then they eventually
went to prison. And they also have

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they also have numerous contacts with drugs. Let's see what else they have here,

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but it's anyway, they have a
lengthy criminal history and they also have

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a number of times that they've report
after being released out online. Can you

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address yourself to the issue. You've
been around Cincinnati almost your entire adult life.

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It appears as more drive by shootings, whether it's an OTR or elsewhere.

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Is there a reason or is this
just happens thence that we have more

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of these drive by shootings. I
can't explain it though, as to why

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these are occurring with such frequency at
this time, I just can't. There

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isn't an explanation. I haven't received
anyone any explanation for it through law enforcement

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as of yet. They are collecting
the data, they're looking into it.

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It may have something to be able
to explain it, some way, to

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get some kind of intervention earlier so
that we can prevent this, But I

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have no idea as far as the
role of the community in coming forward to

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identify these individuals. Normally it takes
a long time or never because of retaliation.

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What role to the community do you
play in this regard and pointing out

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who's the guilty parties we had cooperation
for to get the information and exactly how

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that came through. I'd rather not
discussed at this time. Not only protect

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them, but also protect the case
to make sure that they're available as witnesses

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for trial. As far as your
level of confidence, you've done this for

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many years, as far as and
indicting and trying at criminals with what level

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of confidence do you have that you
have the only three individuals involved. I'm

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pretty I would say very strong and
very confident that the appropriate parties involved here

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were apprehended and now are sitting in
jail waiting for trial. Are the bonds

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such that these characters won't get out
again? The two individuals, the two

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men that are charged with aggravated murder
and other charges, so shade it with

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that um they're not to be no
serious of offenses, even though this is

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involving a very very serious case.
So the bond on that individual, it's

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about one hundred and fifty and so
it remains to be seen if that's high

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enough at this point to hold him. But now he's indicted, it'll get

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reviewed by another common Police magistrate and
our office will be asking for a higher

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bond to keep him in jail.
So at this point, relative to Dickson

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and Brown, the odds are posting
bonds of North at two million dollars are

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almost non existent. But as far
as De Mario Williams, a relatively low

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bond, of course he wasn't.
He wasn't one of the murderers. It's

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only one hundred and fifty thousand someone
could put up fifteen thousand dollars and he

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would be out. It's not fair
to say exactly with a bondsman. And

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it's a surety bond, So a
bondsman would post it and that that's feasible.

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That's a possibility, And Monday it'll
be in front of you know,

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it's going to be reviewed again by
a magistrates, hopefully with our office emphasizing

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the strength, how important this case
is and how important, how dangerous this

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individual is, that he should remain
behind bars because he had no regard for

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safety of anybody. He's driving the
car recklessly, people are out on the

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road, he ends up crashing the
car going at high rate to speed,

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violing and all kinds of traffic violations
and then runs into a crashes into an

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innocent driver and cause serious injury.
A person like that is not somebody that

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was going to cooperate. They fled
when they got out of the vehicle,

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you know, so, and he
didn't have any regard for anybody else but

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himself. Hopefully we can get a
higher bond. Lastly, Melissa Power is

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the beginning. I think September first, the state of Illinois and its wisdom

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is getting rid of all cash bonds
because of the presumptiveness of innocence. That

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there's a thought by the good governor
of Illinois and its legislature that it's not

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fair to somebody without financial resources to
sit in jail awaiting trial as opposed to

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someone else that can post a bond, that it's like economic discrimination. Can

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you briefly address yourself to the issue
as to whether or not a bond would

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hold somebody for trial, because in
the state of Illinois, Forsam Dixon and

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Ryan Braun, the murderers of a
child with an extensive previous criminal record,

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wouldn't be subject to no cash bond
at all because they're presumed to be innocent.

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Therefore, why lock up an innocent
man? Why is that a bad

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idea? Well, a number of
things, but we already know these policies,

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this thought on crime. There's no
bail buying, it's just reeks,

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havocs on cities, and failed policies. Basically, I understand their argument,

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but at the same time, there's
a duty to protect the public. There's

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an accountability that needs to be taken, and so hopefully, hopefully our state

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never turns into it like Illinois yeah, that's the goal. Well, Prosecutor

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Melissa Powers, once again, thank
you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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And I guess all the law enforcement
needs to get a tip of the

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town's cap for finding these characters so
quickly and getting them off the streets.

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And Melissa Powers, have a great
weekend. And thank you for coming on

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the Bill Cunningham Show. Thanks though
you two have a great weekend. Thank

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you, Take care. All right, let's continue if a line becomes available

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five one, three, seven,
four nine, seven thousand, and in

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many parts of our country, of
course, with sn Dixon and Ryan Braun

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had committed these offenses elsewhere, like
in Illinois or California, in New York

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City, there's a good chance they'd
be out on bond quickly, in which

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case they would seek out the individuals
who fingered them as the perpetrators for specialized

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treatment with an AK forty seven.
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