1 00:00:11,199 --> 00:01:30,200 At at Hey. Everyone, thanks so much for joining us for this special 2 00:01:30,239 --> 00:01:34,560 livestream episode of the show. I really appreciate it. Thanks so much for 3 00:01:34,719 --> 00:01:38,439 listening for tonight's show. I had planned to bring Marvin Allen on and he 4 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:42,480 says he's still going to be here, but he's running behind. Last I 5 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:47,280 heard from him about ten minutes or so ago, he said he would be 6 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:53,239 here at the latest at nine fifteen, so about fifteen minutes late. Well, 7 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:56,280 to fill time until he gets here. I just got a message from 8 00:01:56,319 --> 00:02:00,319 al Santo Riga, a well ten yured dogging in research, and he was 9 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:05,319 basically asking if I'd like for him to fill in time until Marvin got here, 10 00:02:05,319 --> 00:02:07,439 and I said, well, by all means, thank you, and 11 00:02:07,039 --> 00:02:10,479 send him a link to the studio here. So he should be popping in 12 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,120 pretty much any moment now. But until he did that, I'm going to 13 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:20,759 fill some time myself, just to make sure that things go as smoothly as 14 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:24,240 possible. If anyone in a live chat has any questions they would like for 15 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,039 me to answer, then by all means send them my way in if I 16 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:35,520 can answer, I definitely will. But so that you know, we've been 17 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,360 doing a couple of special episodes lately bringing on Marvin tonight, and then of 18 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:46,719 course last week I did an episode with Canadian dog Me and Researcher, a 19 00:02:46,039 --> 00:02:51,000 Canadian dog mean Researcher. If you'd like to have more shows like this, 20 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,759 specialty shows where instead of its eyewitness after I witness, then just let me 21 00:02:55,879 --> 00:02:59,800 know, shoot me a message and let me know, and I'll do the 22 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,280 best I can to make that happen. On my end, sometimes I get 23 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:08,400 a little caught in a rut when it's the same thing weekend, week out 24 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:13,159 show and show out, So on my end, it's kind of fun to 25 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,680 kind of mix it up as well. So if that's what you want, 26 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,800 that's not a problem my way. There is a show as far as what 27 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,199 to look forward to, if you could put it that way, there is 28 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:30,479 a show upcoming where it's probably going to be next Friday night, so that 29 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:37,599 you know where I'm going to highly recommend that before you let your kids listen 30 00:03:37,639 --> 00:03:39,159 to it. If you are one of those people who allows your kids to 31 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,080 listen, that you listen to the show yourself. It's going to be probably 32 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,280 one of the most frightening episodes that have ever aired on the show. So 33 00:03:49,199 --> 00:03:53,960 you've been warned. Like I said, I definitely would would recommend listening to 34 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:59,000 it before you let anyone under the age. I'd say, fourteen fifteen fourteen, 35 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,120 listen to it. Well, it looks like we've got Al in here 36 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:06,280 with us joining us. Al, thanks so much for coming in. Hey, 37 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,199 thanks for having me. Oh you're welcome. Thank you for your time. 38 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,000 What if you been up to? Al? I know you don't let 39 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:17,000 any grasp under your feet. You're always out there beating the bush is researching, 40 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:23,480 what's what's the latest development now? Actually, I've been laying pretty low 41 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:27,759 where of course I got some stuff coming up in a few weeks. I 42 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,800 got a ton of stuff planned for this summer. But I've been laying pretty 43 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,519 low. But I don't know how long it's going to be before Marvin gets 44 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:41,759 on. So I thought I may talk about something that I've never talked about 45 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:45,199 before when it comes to the dog man. Oh, by all means that 46 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,839 would be great, Thank you. Yeah, Like I said, I don't 47 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:53,319 how much time we have to kill so the men in black. I wanted 48 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:57,120 to discuss the men in black. I had a man in Black experience. 49 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,720 Oh no, I had to deal with the dog man situation and really really 50 00:05:02,879 --> 00:05:11,160 scary kind of thing. There's a location up here that one of my locations 51 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:15,240 that I do a lot of squatching, and at one point I see a 52 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,360 dog man at the same location. So obviously, you know, I got 53 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:25,319 to go back. I got to start researching it, and and it was 54 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:30,040 it was weird. I was just driving along the parkway and it's right along 55 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:33,879 the power line cut and there's like up on top of the hill where the 56 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:41,079 power lines are, there's a shed that the power company uses. I guess 57 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:44,959 they put their quad runners in there or whatever to go from line to line 58 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,040 because it goes straight up a giant mountain, you know. And one day 59 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,800 I'm driving by and I see a dog man up on top of the shed 60 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:58,959 and it looks like he's holding onto with his left hand, holding onto the 61 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,839 power line, and he's got his nose up in the air and he's sniffing. 62 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,240 And I don't know if he's sniffing for other dog man, if he's 63 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,480 sniffing for deer. I'm not really sure what he's sniffing for. And this 64 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:14,240 is something I never really ever talked about on air, but I figured just 65 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,519 to kill some time before Marvin comes back. You know, we could do 66 00:06:17,639 --> 00:06:20,920 we could discuss this, and I called of course, I called my partner 67 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,480 Brian, and Brian's like, you gotta turn around, you gotta go look. 68 00:06:24,959 --> 00:06:29,240 Well, you know, we went back and I looked, and I 69 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,399 went up to the location and I checked around, and I didn't see anybody 70 00:06:32,439 --> 00:06:36,800 there watching me. And I didn't see by the time I got back to 71 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,759 the location, I didn't see any dog man anymore up on top of the 72 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,079 roof of the shed, and the roof was like twelve feet high, you 73 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,839 know. But you know, again, I get I get home, I 74 00:06:49,879 --> 00:06:54,160 called Brian and I tell him about what I've seen. YadA, YadA, 75 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,560 YadA. And one day I'm cruising up the Parkway and I have like an 76 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,800 hour and ten minute commute to and from to work. I live like four 77 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:09,560 point thirty in the morning, four o'clock in the morning, and I'm driving 78 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,160 home one day and I'm just cruising. It's a Saturday. I'm cruising up 79 00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:18,759 the parkway and in the right lane, just cruising, and a police car 80 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:23,079 drops out of the sky from behind me. I don't know where it came 81 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,360 from. Honest to god, there was nobody on the Parkway but me. 82 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,720 And then the next thing I know, I see and up here in New 83 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:35,800 York, our park police have green and white cars. The state police have 84 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:42,279 blue and gold, and a lot of people don't realize that the park police 85 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,879 are state police as well, and they can give you speeding tickets and everything 86 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:50,439 else. So I see the police car behind me and I'm doing you know, 87 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,519 sixty five in the right lane. And the next thing I know, 88 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,600 I see the lights go on. And so right as I was passing in 89 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:05,160 a band then Ski Ski Resort, I pull into the giant parking lot and 90 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,000 uh, I hear, I'm here, I'm Milwaukee to you know. Their 91 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:15,399 their radio tells me to go to the back of the lot behind this giant 92 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:22,000 gravel. Don't gravel that they were doing construction in the area. They were 93 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,040 putting all the construction material in this giant parking lot. And I'm like, 94 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:30,199 why am I have to go behind this giant gravel, you know mountain? 95 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,240 So I pull up behind a drop giant gravel and now no one can see 96 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,519 me from the parkway, and these guys pull in behind me and pull out 97 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,960 the police car and they say to me, over the over the PA system 98 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:48,639 they say, take the keys out of the ignition, throw them in the 99 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,679 passenger side floor, put your hands on the steering wheel and make sure you 100 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:56,279 see belt is on, and open the windows, both windows. And I'm 101 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:01,480 like, what is going on? And to me was like a mob all 102 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:07,279 right? And I'm like, what is going on here? I'm freaking out. 103 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,840 These two guys get out of this police car. They're not wearing uniforms. 104 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,759 They don't look like any cops I've ever met in my life. They 105 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:22,679 look like special Forces guy one. One guy's in a leather jacket with you 106 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,440 know, aviators on the other guys and they're dune to ree jacket with mirror 107 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:31,600 glasses and they're on either side of the car and they're screaming at me. 108 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,279 And the guy with the little jacket reaches into his pocket pulls out a little 109 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:39,679 black book and he says, are you out so and so? And I'm 110 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,120 look yeah, and he gives the whole rundown to who I am and I 111 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,639 go, yes, that's me and the other guy and the other guy's screaming 112 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,440 at me, and I'm like, okay, what's going on? And the 113 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:54,639 guy says, so I said to him, I said, could I see 114 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:00,720 some I d you know, and they had badges, but the badges they 115 00:10:00,759 --> 00:10:05,919 were wearing didn't match the cars they were driving, you know. And so 116 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 I said, can I see some like ID? And because you want to 117 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,919 see my ID? And he shows me as a gun and I'm like, 118 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:18,480 okay, that's that's good enough for me, you know. And so this 119 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:20,759 guy screaming at me, and he's telling me stay out of my woods. 120 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,720 You don't know what you think, you know what's going on. You have 121 00:10:24,799 --> 00:10:28,720 no clue what's going on. And he's one guy screaming at me from one 122 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:33,120 side. The other guy is screaming at me from the other side. Neither 123 00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:35,840 one of them are getting close enough to the car to put their hands on 124 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:39,320 the car. I'm hoping they get close enough and put their hands on the 125 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:41,799 roof because I'm thinking I can get some fingerprints or something, you know. 126 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,320 But they're screaming at me, and I'm walked into my seatbelt. I can't 127 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,919 even make a move on anybody if I wanted to, because I'm walked in. 128 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:56,679 And the guy says, it would be pretty sad for you to spend 129 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:03,440 thirty years at the PE the post office and lose your pension. Now, 130 00:11:03,879 --> 00:11:05,279 that would be pretty shitty, don't you think. And I'm like, yeah, 131 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:09,120 that would be really shitty considered up for thirty years if you And then 132 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:13,320 the other guy goes, you know, it's worse than that. He goes 133 00:11:13,759 --> 00:11:16,679 going to jail for child pornography. And I was like, whoa, whoa, 134 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:22,759 whoa, whoa. You have to calm down. There's no reason to 135 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,399 go down this road. He's like, we could put whatever we want on 136 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,080 your computer and have you locked up. And I was like, what's going 137 00:11:31,159 --> 00:11:33,240 on? You know, it's just one guy's screaming to stay out of my 138 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:35,279 woods. The other guy's like, I don't want you going. I don't 139 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:41,600 even want you going to the park to play basketball or anything. And he's 140 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:46,120 got like going absolutely aption on me. And I'm sitting there and I'm freaking 141 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:50,879 out, and I'm thinking, what is going on here? What is this 142 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:58,120 all about? And I realized that I'd just seen this dogman not far from 143 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,519 where I'm sitting in this park, a lot of this abandoned ski resort, 144 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,200 and I'm thinking it's got to do with the dog man, because I've been 145 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,279 in these woods so many times looking for sasquatch I never had anybody come after 146 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,759 me. These guys, you must be tracking this dog man or this or 147 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:20,679 this pack dog man or whatsever in the woods. And at that time we 148 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,799 were doing two Ryan and I were doing two monthly meetings, one down in 149 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:30,399 Westchester, which was all parmormal, and one up in Red Hook, New 150 00:12:30,519 --> 00:12:35,039 York, in Dutchess County, which was more UFO based. And we had 151 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:41,039 always felt that we were getting visitors at the UFO meetings thinking, you know, 152 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:43,840 we're this guy's a plants or that guy's a plant, you know. 153 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,559 And one of the guys said to me, he says, by the way, 154 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,840 what are you guys discussing Thursday night? That was the night we did 155 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,600 the meeting. And I go UFOs and he goes smart boy, he goes 156 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:05,120 stick stick with UFOs. Nobody gives a shit about those. He says, 157 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,759 just stay out of my woods. And when I tell you, I've been 158 00:13:09,799 --> 00:13:16,000 in the woods with a lot of different cryptids and entities and everything else, 159 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:22,559 nothing ever scared me as much as dealing with these shoe guys kept me out 160 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,639 of the woods for two years too. You and I told Brian, and 161 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:33,279 they actually told me. They said, and you tell your fat effort partner 162 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:37,960 that if we catch him in the woods, because he Brian lived in the 163 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,679 Bronx at the time in the city, and he said, damn, He 164 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,960 said, it would be ashamed if he went to jail, as if he 165 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,799 went to jail, if he was being if he was arrested as a domestic 166 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:54,679 terrorists, no telling what kind of guns we could pull out of his apartment. 167 00:13:54,919 --> 00:14:00,320 And they gave me his building number and his apartment number and the whole 168 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,200 nine yards. And the next day I told Brian, I can't talk to 169 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,000 you over the phone. Meet me at a location. I told him what's 170 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,240 going on. He went out and he bought a two way camera for his 171 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:18,240 car in case it ever happened to him he got pulled over. But for 172 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:22,759 a week straight, and I would leave my house in the mornings at different 173 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:30,039 times four for thirty five, five thirty. Every time I left my house 174 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,759 after I would pass this one exit on the Parkway, a police car would 175 00:14:35,879 --> 00:14:41,879 show up behind me and follow me for like three or four exits every single 176 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,399 day, and the same thing on the way home. It was I found 177 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,279 it completely insane because I was working all different kinds of hours, you know, 178 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:54,279 one day was eight hours, nine ten, eleven, twelve hours. 179 00:14:54,600 --> 00:15:01,440 It didn't matter what time I passed this exit. I passed it boom. 180 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:03,799 There was a police car behind me, and they would follow me. And 181 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,480 they would follow me in the morning on the way to work, and they 182 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:11,120 would follow me at night on the way home. And I don't know if 183 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,759 they had my car bugged or something. I didn't look for a bug. 184 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:24,559 I wasn't I was just freaking out because I was like, these people can 185 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:28,879 do anything they want to you. They have that ability. And when someone 186 00:15:30,039 --> 00:15:33,639 tells you about the men in Black, of course these guys weren't actually dressed 187 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:41,440 as men in black. But these guys were definitely from a FEDS and they 188 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,399 were not playing games. And they were big guys. Both of them are 189 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,960 like the size of Arnold Schwartzernegger, you know what I mean. And these 190 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:54,639 guys were not playing games. And I'm a pretty big guy. I have 191 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,759 all kinds of different color belts in martial arts. I could defend myself pretty 192 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:03,720 well. I have no fear, but these guys put the fear of God 193 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:08,440 in me. And when they come knocking on your door and they pull you 194 00:16:08,559 --> 00:16:12,360 over in the middle of the parkway on the road early in the morning and 195 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:15,879 you're by yourself and there's no one on the road and it's deserted, or 196 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:21,559 they make you pull into a parking lot behind a giant mountain of gravel. 197 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,480 I thought, I, honest to God, the whole time I was sitting 198 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:30,039 there listening to these two guys screaming at me from both sides, thought that 199 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:33,080 at one point I'm going to look to my left at the guy at the 200 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,679 wind and the guy in the right is going to put around in my head 201 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,679 and throw a gun and I'm a car make it look like a suicide. 202 00:16:38,159 --> 00:16:41,080 That's that's what I was thinking. The whole time this was going on. 203 00:16:41,159 --> 00:16:47,639 It was like totally totally insane. And I don't really talk about this on 204 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:51,679 air, but I figured that bell Yeah, the night I'd come on and 205 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:56,399 talk about it. Wow, Wow, this happened two years ago, and 206 00:16:56,879 --> 00:16:59,919 you never told me about that. I could understand why you keep that close 207 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,480 to the vest, But that's horrible that happened to you, Nick. It 208 00:17:03,599 --> 00:17:11,200 was the most I've seen winter goes and rakes and skin walkers and sasquatches and 209 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:18,200 dog men and all kinds of shadow entities in the woods. That could kill 210 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,720 me. There's no doubt about it. Any of these entities could probably kill 211 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,720 me if they wanted to. And nothing ever scared me the way those two 212 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,839 guys scared. They put the fear of God in me. Well, yeah, 213 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,480 I can understand why that would put the fear of God in almost anyone. 214 00:17:36,279 --> 00:17:38,960 So that you know, there's a question posted that I can't blame you 215 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,839 at all for not answering. One of the listeners in the live chat wanted 216 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,720 to know Lily Lewis to be more specific, she wanted to know where this 217 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,759 happened. But you'd be cutting your own throat to reveal the location, because 218 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:53,400 I will be directing other people to come right to that, deary, And 219 00:17:53,400 --> 00:18:00,920 that's exactly what those operatives didn't want to happen. Yeah, now I would, 220 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,799 I would. The other day, I Rick could really say, is 221 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,119 it happened in the Hudson Valley in New York State. And the Hudson Valley 222 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,519 is a pretty big area, so I'm not going to narrow it down any 223 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:15,519 closer than that. Yeah, a good idea, that's a large area. 224 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,559 Naming off all those cryptis that you've had encounters with, rub elbows with. 225 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:26,839 You said that you've never quote unquote feared for your life or anything. But 226 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:34,720 which one got your motor running the most? I would have to say the 227 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,000 dog Man when he came to my house at that time. Yeah, that 228 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:42,039 one got that one. You know, we made it. We made an 229 00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:45,920 agreement. I won't go to his house, he wouldn't come to mind. 230 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:52,160 And I've never gone back, but this particular summer, I am going back 231 00:18:52,640 --> 00:19:00,559 because I'm doing something with Chris Reinhardt and I want and I want to he 232 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,920 wants to film the location of the Den, and so we will be going 233 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,039 back this summer to film the location of the dog Man Den. And it'll 234 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:17,880 be the first time back there in years. I don't even know how many 235 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,519 years. I lost track, because you know, once I made that deal, 236 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,480 it just kind of stuck to it. You know. Well, that's 237 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,839 the kind of good man you are. Yeah, that's no surprise, and 238 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,160 that's what I'd expect from you. For clarity, when you said when you 239 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,920 mentioned the time that dog me in came to your home to pay you a 240 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,440 visit, are you talking about the time when that one was under your porch, 241 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:44,000 the front porch when you noticed it yeah, when he was under my 242 00:19:44,039 --> 00:19:49,119 front deck. Yet Yeah, actually came twice once the week before where he 243 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,200 was in the backyard sniffing at the window and I had the window open, 244 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,839 which is something I never do, and I had the window open at night. 245 00:19:56,319 --> 00:20:03,039 And the second time when he showed up underneath the front deck. Yeah, 246 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,279 how in the world could you ever come out that front door after seeing 247 00:20:06,279 --> 00:20:15,000 one of those guys under the front deck without being absolutely paranoid. I get 248 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:21,119 gut feelings, you know, And like when I was approaching it under the 249 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,759 front deck, not really knowing what I'm looking at because I didn't see any 250 00:20:26,039 --> 00:20:29,680 color, eyes or teeth or anything like that. I just seen a block, 251 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,480 a black blob. And the closer I got, the more focused came 252 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,359 out. Even though I had the sense of lights in my eyes, I 253 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,240 was covering them, covering the lights with my hand. I started to see 254 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:45,000 that, you know, the huge head and the and the and the hair 255 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:48,799 on his chest and the mane and everything. And that's when the little voice 256 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:52,279 in my head said you should stop, like right here and back up, 257 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,440 you know. And I always listened to that little voice, Like like the 258 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:03,640 night it was sniffing at my window and the little voice in my head said, 259 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,000 touch the wall. And I felt the wall and I felt the energy 260 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,359 coming through the wall, and it didn't feel like a sasquatch. And when 261 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,400 I kind of went towards the window and I listened, I had to put 262 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,480 my head and actually into the window, but I turned my head to listen 263 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:21,000 and I heard the sniffing, and I got up and I grabbed my pistol 264 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:25,160 grip shotgun, and I was walking towards through the living room into the kitchen 265 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,519 to go out the sliding door and put the lights on in the yard to 266 00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:32,160 see what was out there. Again, I had little voice in my head 267 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,799 said stop, you don't want to see what's out there. Go back to 268 00:21:33,839 --> 00:21:38,599 bed. And that's exactly what I did. And that's all. You know, 269 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,359 all of these actions are so not me. I'm the type of guy 270 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:48,759 that will go and see if there's something you know, wrong on my property, 271 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:52,000 in my house. I'm going to defend my house and my property. 272 00:21:52,039 --> 00:21:55,599 But when I hear that little voice that tells me to stop, you don't 273 00:21:55,599 --> 00:21:57,720 want to go because I don't know if it was looking in the sliding glass 274 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,680 door, you know what I mean, if I would have turned that sense 275 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,319 of lights out in the backyard and seen it looking through the sliding glass door. 276 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,839 Who knows how I want to react. I may have taken the sliding 277 00:22:07,839 --> 00:22:14,359 class the door down with the shop and you know who knows. And same 278 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,839 thing. When I was walking towards it under the deck, all I had 279 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,960 in my hand was a little pocket knife and some pepper spray. And the 280 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:26,240 little voice said, you just stopped right here and go back and turn around. 281 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,319 And I just feel like, you know, you feel like the dread, 282 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,680 like I'm about to get shredded, you know. And I stopped and 283 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,519 I went back inside. And then you know, of course your brain starts 284 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:41,799 raising a thousand miles. And now should I get the guns out? You 285 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:45,480 know, I'll get wake up with my son in law and my son give 286 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:49,160 everybody a gun. And I said, no, no, no, I've 287 00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:52,839 heard too many stories where people who went to war with these things ended badly. 288 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,240 And I just said, I'm going to let it go. And I 289 00:22:56,279 --> 00:23:00,559 didn't tell anybody anything, you know, But but I went did go back 290 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,839 to the den and say, okay, listen, I got the message, 291 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,039 you don't come to my house, I won't come to yours. And that 292 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,000 was years ago. I don't even know if they're still using that den anymore. 293 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:12,960 I could, I don't know, you know, I haven't been back 294 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,880 there, it's so long. But you know, so when I'm around these 295 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,759 cryptids and I get these vibes, like when I was out there with the 296 00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:29,599 skin Walker and the wind to go and and I was told, as long 297 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,400 as I stay on the path, the right path, I'm safe. I 298 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:36,839 just focus and make sure I stay on the path I'm supposed to stay on. 299 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,839 Because if I'm being told that, I'm okay. If I'm on that 300 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,799 path and don't venture off it, I stay on it and it you know, 301 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,640 like I said, it's always worked out for me. I'm still here. 302 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,000 Well, thank goodness you are, and thank goodness you have those strong 303 00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:55,240 instincts, and I'll do you one better. Thank goodness you listen to them, 304 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,920 because if you didn't. Yeah, yeah, And I gotta be brutally 305 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:03,119 honest, you know, I don't always listen. Sometimes I get adventurous and 306 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,960 I rolled the dice, you know, every now and then, and I've 307 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,799 been lucky enough not to have anything really bad happen to me when I do 308 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,599 roll the dice, you know. So yeah, thank goodness for that. 309 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,400 You might have said it, but I missed it. How far away from 310 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:26,480 your home is that den? Oh, that den is about I would say 311 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:34,160 fifteen miles to the east, and then another maybe four miles north into the 312 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:41,200 woods nineteen miles away. So that's just a hop skipping to jump away for 313 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,039 a dog man. Then, did you get paranoid when you'd be out and 314 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:49,759 about mowing and doing other things around your property after you realize that that dogman 315 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:56,000 knew where you lived? No, Because, like I said, I get 316 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,119 like when I went out that night that day, when I was going out 317 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,720 to start the carc it was in the floor. I felt like there was 318 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:07,960 someone behind me watching me. And I kept looking and I'm looking at my 319 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:10,920 house, and I'm looking at my neighbor's houses on either side of me, 320 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,000 and I don't see anybody. I don't see any shadow, I see nothing. 321 00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:18,559 But the vibe was just just felt like there was somebody watching me from 322 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:22,920 behind. And not until I actually started the car up and started walking back 323 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:30,039 towards the house did I get that vibe like, what is there something underneath 324 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:33,200 the deck? You know? And then I said, oh, there's something 325 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:34,599 under the deck. I gotta go see what it is. I can't have 326 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,200 my wife and daughter coming out here getting to him, getting mugged or jumped 327 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:42,200 or whatever. You know what I mean, A homeless persons sleeping under my 328 00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:48,440 deck. And then as I got closer and closer, you could feel the 329 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,799 dread built up, you know. And that's why I said when the little 330 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,559 voice said, you should stop right about here before you get shredded, and 331 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,519 just back up slowly and go back inside. And that's what I did. 332 00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,599 If your front deck is high enough for a dog man to get under it, 333 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,839 then it must be high enough for an appreciable amount of light to shine 334 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,720 in underor as well. Is that the case, or is it still pretty 335 00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:18,559 dark under there? Oh? No, it's pitch black under there, because 336 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:22,240 my sensor lights are at the bottom of the deck of the actual deck, 337 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:29,079 so they shine into the driveway. So if you're standing behind them underneath the 338 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,880 deck towards the garage door, it's pitch block. You can't see under there. 339 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,400 As a matter of fact, when I came out the second time, 340 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:42,240 I came out with my my flashlight and I looked under the deck to get 341 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,279 a better look, and there was nothing under there, and then when I 342 00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:49,000 went down and looked, I seen all the urine on my retaining wall that 343 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,200 was going down into the dry and the driveway drain, and I was like, 344 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,000 son of a be this thing peter Mine retaining wall. You know. 345 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000 Yeah, I remember you seeing that when I had you on the show that 346 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:06,920 time and you talked about that encounter. Yeah, that's rough. Did you 347 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,759 have to scrub that wall to get that horrible smell to go away? Yes? 348 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,319 I definitely had to use like laundry detergent, went a little clorox in 349 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,079 there, and to get that because it was really oily. It was like 350 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,079 an oil slick, you know, like water just ran right off of it. 351 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,519 You know, you really needed to scrub it. What a heart whistle 352 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,079 broom and a hose you know to get it off. Wow, that's horrible. 353 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,359 That really is looks like blood. Vipa has a really good question for 354 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,319 you. He wants to know referring to the men in Black encounter. Absolutely, 355 00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:44,519 how long did it scare you from going back into the field? Now 356 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,720 two years to get back into the woods themselves. I didn't do any bigfoot 357 00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:56,839 research or dog man research for two years. As far as like paranormal stuff 358 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,559 and UFO stuff. I was with that because they said that was okay to 359 00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:07,319 do. So I continue to do all my power normal and investigating and all 360 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,319 my UFO C fives and stuff like that. You know. Communications that was 361 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,960 so I kind of. I still stay busy, but just not in the 362 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,759 woods. I've said it before and I'll say it again. You really don't 363 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:25,839 frighten easily, Dia. I try not to. I try not to do 364 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,559 anything have let iver. I try not to have any fear come into my 365 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,240 body whenever I do anything. Like my psychic told me many many years ago, 366 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:40,079 never to go out with subconscious fear, you know. So whenever I 367 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,640 do go out, I always make sure I have no subconscious fear. I 368 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:48,759 make sure anybody who's coming with me is read through the psychic to make sure 369 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,799 they don't have any subconscious fear and it's safe for them to go. But 370 00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:57,960 as far as like being afraid of people and stuff like that, like I 371 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,599 said of martial arts my whole life, I'm pretty confident in my ability. 372 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,359 I'm not what I used to be as a young man, but you know, 373 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,240 still good enough for to survive a fight, you know what I mean. 374 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:18,559 So I don't scare easy. Yeah, no, I'd say you don't. 375 00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:21,599 And I don't doubt that you can hold it down really well, don't 376 00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:26,200 doubt that at all. I've gotten another question for you, and it's from 377 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:30,920 baby Girl, and her question is do dog men hunt other cryptids like pill 378 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,319 crawlers or rakes? Like I said at the head of the show, Al's 379 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:38,039 a very accomplished researcher, dog mean researcher, amongst other things, so he'd 380 00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:41,599 be the perfect guest to ask these questions. What do you say about that, 381 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,920 Al? Do you dog me and hunt other cryptids like pill crawlers or 382 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:53,160 rakes? I think I think dog man will hunt anything that it thinks it 383 00:29:53,240 --> 00:30:02,359 can kill without injuring itself. As apex predator, I think he's not going 384 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:08,440 to challenge something that may injure him. I don't know. I've seen the 385 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:15,319 rake twice now. I don't know if they would be able, if they 386 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,720 would even have any defense against a dog man if a dog man was hunting 387 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:22,519 them. But I think if a dog man is hunting and hunting, it's 388 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:30,960 hungry and it doesn't think that you may injure it. I think it's it'll 389 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,559 eat anything it can if it's hungry. So I honestly yes and no, 390 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,160 because I don't know for sure one hundred percent, but I don't see it, 391 00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:42,359 you know, being afraid of anything that can't do it any harm. 392 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:48,039 And I don't really know if a rake or a crawler would have any kind 393 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:53,079 of ability against an apex predator like that. Yeah, I bet they probably 394 00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:57,759 Wouldn't dog Man bring a lot to the table. So that's a good point. 395 00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:02,680 I've got another question for you from a scent of Phoenix, and they 396 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,599 want to know does dog man or do dog man is what they want to 397 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:12,200 know. Get along with Sasquatch, I believe in some cases they live I'm 398 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:18,839 not going to say they live in harmony, but I think they are what's 399 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:25,960 the right term here, they live in peace long as neither one of them 400 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:30,720 are hunting in the same location at the same time. You know, I 401 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,759 just found out recently. I was at a wolf reserve, and I found 402 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:41,559 out recently that a large pack of wolves, like a big family unit of 403 00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:45,680 ten or twelve, their range is a thousand square miles, you know, 404 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:51,440 and a small, a small pack of three, that range is like seventy 405 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:56,000 five square miles. So I think if the dog men in the Bigfoot have 406 00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:01,880 those thousand mile ranges and they intercross each other, as long as they're both 407 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,880 not in the same location at the same time, I think they can live 408 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:12,960 in peace. But I don't know if that would play out. If they're 409 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,279 both at the same location hunting for food and they both need that food whatever 410 00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:21,079 it is in al Kader or whatever it is, they're both hunting, and 411 00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:23,359 they come across each other at the same time, then I think, you 412 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:29,640 know, there may be a fight for the fight for the food. Wow. 413 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,400 If that isn't a comprehensive answer, I don't know what it is. 414 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:37,400 That's a really good way to answer that question. I normally prefer to focus 415 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:44,640 questions on the guests, but she and and numennz Or she asked a question 416 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:49,240 of me that I'm going to make an exception in go ahead and answer tonight. 417 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,279 She wants to know because it is related to what you talked about at 418 00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:57,319 the head of the show about the operative speaking of that visit. Unfortunately, 419 00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:00,400 she wants to know, Vic, do you think the government and to men 420 00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:04,880 in black listen to your show? Oh yeah, every week every show. 421 00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,720 Have you ever had anything weird along those lines maybe happen to you to make 422 00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:15,680 you think they are well. I've had reports. Eyewitnesses have sent me a 423 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,240 report. Some of them got mad about it too, they thought I was 424 00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:22,599 giving them the cold shoulder. But I've had reports from my witnesses when they've 425 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:28,319 contacted me wanting me to contact them, just disappear off my email account or 426 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,960 email accounts inexplicable, no reason for it. To other messages. Before the 427 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,880 message and after the message, we're still there, but this one or that 428 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:44,000 one just gone. I'll be in bed and sometimes when I'm suffering from insomnia, 429 00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:46,960 I'm checking messages and doing whatever else, and I'll see a message come 430 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,960 in. Okay, well I picked up my phone at like three am. 431 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,960 I'm looking and I see a message came in at maybe two two am. 432 00:33:55,319 --> 00:34:00,680 Or someone's asking for help with their dog meeting encounter. So I'll make a 433 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,880 mental note and think, okay, well, yeah it's three am. I'll 434 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,199 just reach out to them tomorrow to try and schedule a film conversation. And 435 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:15,280 sure enough, tomorrow I'll go to access that information and it's gone. Like 436 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,800 I said, encounters before theres and after theirs are still there, but that 437 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:27,920 one particular one has just disappeared. So maybe that is due to interference from 438 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,519 government operatives. I don't know, but it does happen. And like I 439 00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:37,280 said, some of the eyewitnesses who I wasn't able to contact, their reports 440 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,360 just disappeared. Some of them took exception to that because I think they thought 441 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,920 that I was blowing them off or something. So it's possible that I've been 442 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,400 affected by activity from men in black. But you have to answer your question, 443 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,559 shean, And I can't say for sure definitively that I have. I 444 00:34:55,599 --> 00:35:00,840 know there's a certain line not to cross, so oh yeah, I just 445 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,599 do the best I can not to cross that line. And I think that's 446 00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:07,920 why I haven't been paid any visits by these guys or anything like that. 447 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:12,599 But I mean, it's all a matter of risk. I want to be 448 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,960 able to do what I do for a long time. I hate the idea 449 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:21,039 of me doing anything that would put that in jeopardy. But I mean, 450 00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:25,119 it's all a matter of what you're comfortable with as far as risk when it 451 00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:30,159 comes to how close to that line you get. I hope that answers your 452 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,920 question there. That was a good question, and that's a question I've seen 453 00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,760 several times before, so I thought, you know what, that's a good 454 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:44,280 opportunity right now to address that. The next question for you, Al is 455 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,639 from D Truth, and D wants to know how do you feel the rear 456 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:52,400 word, Oh, the reward? How do you feel the reward is worth 457 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,360 the risk you've been warned by the vets. Absolutely not. No, I 458 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,400 do not feel like the reward worth the risk of I think that time when 459 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:09,320 they chased me out of that location, I would have not been there if 460 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,639 I didn't see that dog man up on that building that one day driving by 461 00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:20,840 by chance, so I think they were monitoring that location. If I would 462 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,280 have came by ten minutes earlier, ten minutes later and never seen that creature 463 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,360 up on that roof, I would have never went back into that woods at 464 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,159 that particular time looking for a dog man, because there's a certain time of 465 00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:36,840 the year I go there for the Sasquatches, and it was a different time, 466 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,280 and I think I just stumbled into whatever they were doing, and they 467 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,920 didn't want me in those woods. They didn't want me in those woods. 468 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,360 They didn't want me telling anybody about what was going on in those woods, 469 00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:52,320 and they didn't want other people in that woods. They just wanted to keep 470 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,199 as many people out as possible. I think it was just by chance. 471 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,719 And you know, I wish I would have gone, came by ten minutes 472 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,599 later and never seen it. You know, yeah, like you said, 473 00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:08,079 ten minutes five minutes later, and you probably wouldn't have seen it. So 474 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:15,480 that's one of those shoulda kulda witted situations, It really is. The next 475 00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:19,599 question in line is from well, it's from the truth again. He wants 476 00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:23,519 to know which cryptid do you feel has the largest population. No, I 477 00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:30,199 would have to say bigfoots. I believe the Bigfoots have the largest population. 478 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,920 Yeah, I can't see how you could be wrong about that. I mean, 479 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,639 they have to have a bigger population than dogmen, you would think. 480 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:42,440 Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't have numbers on all 481 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,480 of them, but I mean I would just imagine they've both been seen by 482 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:52,559 the Native American since like the beginning of time, but the Bigfoot seem to 483 00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:58,599 be more popular in Native American law as well. So I'm just gonna go 484 00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,960 with the Bigfoots. I'm sure you're right. If anyone would know, it 485 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,920 would be you. So I don't doubt you. This next one's from Tyler 486 00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:12,760 Hergot and Tyler wants to know has Aliver seen or heard of a white dog 487 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:21,239 man. I've heard of them. I've never seen one, but I have 488 00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:25,880 heard of them, yes, And I think, just like every other cryptid 489 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:32,039 or humanoid, I think their pigmentation can change. And I think every now 490 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:36,559 and then you'll get an albino one that'll come in. Like a lot of 491 00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:40,360 people believe that the white ones are older. I don't necessarily believe that. 492 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,360 But I've never seen a white dog man. But I've seen I've seen the 493 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:52,360 white Bigfoot, and I've seen a white deer run across my road, and 494 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:58,280 you know, and I'm privileges he pitches a white buffalo, so the alligators 495 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,679 and stuff like that. So I believe they're out there. Yeah. When 496 00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:06,880 you consider all the different varieties of dogmen out there, really makes you wonder 497 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,199 what isn't out there. It really opens up the possibilities, it really does. 498 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,079 Oh. Absolutely, Yeah. Well it looks like Marvin is joined us. 499 00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:20,960 He just popped in. So I can't thank you enough for coming on 500 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:24,280 and filling in for Marvin. Now, I really do appreciate it. No 501 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,320 problem Vick anytime for you. Two guys, love you both. And I 502 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,159 just wanted to say one thing to the listeners out there. If you do 503 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:37,360 get visited by the men in black, take it serious. It's no joke. 504 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:43,559 That's good advice, very good advice. All Thanks again so much for 505 00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:45,519 your time, and please remember if I can never help you, all I 506 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:50,000 have to do is just let me know, no problem. If can I 507 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:53,159 call you whenever I have questions for you, I'll be here, all right, 508 00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:58,719 buddy Chow, have a good one. Marvin, are you there? 509 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,880 Can you hear me? I sure? Can can you hear us? Yeah? 510 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,159 Yeah, I can? I can hear you. All right, I'm 511 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,960 right quick. I'm just go get me something to drink real quick, and 512 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,840 I'm ready to rock and roll. All right. What I'll do then I'll 513 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,719 send you back to the green room and then I'll plan on bringing you back 514 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,599 in what five minutes? You think? Ten minutes? How much time would 515 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:28,400 you need? Like ten? Ten? I'll be ready, ten minutes, 516 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,079 I'll be ready. I'll pay back and roll. I'll tell you what We're 517 00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:37,719 already forty minutes in get more people to join in? Well you think so? 518 00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:43,000 Yeah, we could do it. That way. But let me ask 519 00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:45,679 you this, Marvin, would you be up for doing this tomorrow night to 520 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:51,199 nine pm Eastern so we can just get it from the start at nine pm 521 00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:57,000 Eastern time and it won't be compromised. I mean, it's it's up to 522 00:40:57,079 --> 00:40:59,559 you. How would you want to do it? If you feel though that 523 00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:04,000 would be that would be better because today I went to try to go get 524 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,519 me a ID because I lost my ID. So I went to go get 525 00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:09,639 that today and it was so crowded and now I didn't know that I would 526 00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:14,360 be there so long, and the bus schedule was not running like it usually 527 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:22,400 runs. So tomorrow only thing I would have to do is I need to 528 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,159 go see my counselor and come back in the house. I wouldn't have nothing 529 00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:30,559 to do saurday, I mean nothing, so I would be in that in 530 00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:34,800 the house all that time. So unless you want to do it earlier, 531 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,599 it's up to you. Well, I do it how long, however long 532 00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:43,280 you want to do it. It don't make me no difference. I'll tell 533 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,480 you what I've got plans for earlier tomorrow. But if you're going to be 534 00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:52,280 available tomorrow night, let's just plan on starting fresh. At nine pm Eastern 535 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:57,159 I'll be available tomorrow night. Okay, yeah, if that's the case, 536 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,840 let's just start fresh at nine pm Eastern time tomorrow night and then just make 537 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,599 a show of it, a two hour show if that'll work for you. 538 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,000 Oh yeah absolutely, I mean how many you want to do an hour and 539 00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:13,280 a half of the counters and we do the half hour of answering questions. 540 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,239 That's right, Yeah, if you're up for it, let's do that. 541 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,800 Okay, absolutely, Well, you know, just make a post of it. 542 00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:23,239 That sounds good. Yeah, tomorrow night, nine pm Eastern time sharp. 543 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,639 I'll have everything ready to go, and yeah, we'll just get a 544 00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:30,559 fresh start then. But having said that, yeah, thanks for your time 545 00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:36,079 and hope you have a great night. Well everyone, I apologize for the 546 00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:38,840 delay in bringing Marvin on, but as you heard, we'll be back tomorrow 547 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,320 night, nine pm Eastern time to do this with a fresh start. And 548 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,280 as you heard also, it's going to be a two hour show. The 549 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:51,519 first ninety minutes Marvin's going to be sharing encounters, and then after that ninety 550 00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,760 minute mark or approximate ninety minute mark, he'll be on hand to answer any 551 00:42:54,840 --> 00:43:00,880 questions people in the live chat have for him, so having said that, 552 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:05,119 as always, thanks so much for listening in. Hopefully I'll catch you tomorrow night