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What is up, fellow thermonuclear a
ffers. I am Dan Pavali coming at

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you with another NBA team look ahead. We are we are in the closing

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kick of these these look aheads because
the season is pretty much here. We're

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onto the Lakers, which we strategically
did not schedule until basically the season started

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since they seem so combustible. I
had to bring on Jabari L. Davis.

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That's my guy. Love talking to
him about the Lakers. NBA at

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Large. Follow him on Twitter at
Jabari Ali Davis or at Jabari Davis NBA.

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Excuse me, j A B A
R I d A v I s

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NBA. He's with Mad Boost's an
NBA finals file for iHeart the podcasts are

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fantastic. They have questionable tasting guests
at Mad Boosty's because they brought me on

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once, but don't hold that against
them. Jabari, it's been a minute

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since we talked outside of like an
official capacity. How how are you doing?

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I'm doing well, you know,
as we as I kind of alluded

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to in the pre show. It's
a busy time, but a good time.

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You know. Anytime we've got the
NBA season rolling back around, busy

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is good. So I'm absolutely here
for it, and thank you so much

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for having me app please, I
appreciate you coming on. I will say,

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I'm woefully we finally have like a
longer off season for the first time

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in three years. I feel like
it flew by and I'm just woefully underprepared

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for the start of this season.
I get those I don't know if you're

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the same way. It's not the
Tuesday night, but that Wednesday night when

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there's like eleven games, I start
to get overwhelmed and I'm like, how

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did I ever decide that I could
cover this like type thing? And so

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you have to go through those motions
too, and that's probably what I'm dreading.

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Yeah, it's funny as it sounds
like I'm always like, oh man,

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you know, like that that last
period of the summer, it's the

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worst, but it felt like it
just it went by like that, and

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same here, like I feel I
feel as though I'm not prepared, but

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you know what, it all works
out. Eventually we're just gonna be watching

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guys run up and down the court
in basketball uniforms. So it's gonna be

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fun either way. I mean,
I'm the discourse will hopefully at least improve

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on Twitter because NBA Twitter and social
media in general, like they can't have

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an offseason, but like basketball,
Twitter can't have an offseason. It just

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it gets even now with the preseason
takes. But I digress. The Los

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Angeles Lakers, We're a team that
I was just sort of not waiting on

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pins and needles, but they were
one of the teams like they could fuck

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up the entire offseason because they're just
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They have not And so my question
to you is, are you surprised that

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Russell Westbrook is still on this team? I am. I'm not gonna lie,

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And look, there's gonna be listeners
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why would you be surprised? Of
course, they couldn't get rid of

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them. But the truth of the
matter is, obviously, and I'm sure

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it's you know, we're going to
discuss it upcoming, they had opportunities,

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or at least the reports are that
they had opportunities, and simply, let's

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just say, are in a holding
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yes, if you would ask me, you know, hitting it to the

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summer, if you had asked me, do you think russ is going to

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be here. My answer would have
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done any of the rumored deals that
were out there if it involved giving up

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the twenty seven and twenty twenty because
that's been like the most contastly debated thing

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amongst the Lakers in the past like
three or four months. It feels like

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I have a kind of a split
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could because it also feels like a
situation where no matter what happens down the

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line, everyone's going to say,
like, well, of course they should

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have done this, or of course
they shouldn't have you know what I mean,

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Like if they if they made if
they made the deal and it didn't

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come to fruition, and like you
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know, they still went out in
the first round or the sick or you

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you only made it to the semifinals
or whatever the case may be, they

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weren't able to punch it through and
get a title. Then people would say,

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well, you know, hey,
look, you know you sacrifice your

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future and you didn't even win.
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and you know, this year goes
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a lot of us anticipated going They're
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make the deal? Who cares about
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me, I understand their reasoning for
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not me, you know, being
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excuse because they painted themselves into this
corner. They backed themselves right into this

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corner. And now and now this
is you know, this is their reality.

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You had people, you know,
you had Lakers, my fellow Lakers

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fans. I love guys, I
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I'm saying it like a family member
that that that's just giving you a

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reel Like Christmas. Y'all are on
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Lakers, tax this and the other. Okay, well give you a way.

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Even if that exists, it's not
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job was dangerous when you took it, and and and and and this is

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where you're at. I personally think
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that deal ahead of the deadline without
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I understand why the Pacers are are
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because they're like, hey, look, we don't have to. We

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like, ultimately, if something else
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comes or you guys are in a
state of desperation, we might be able

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to get it. But ultimate online
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this deal or another or any other
deal, I still think they'll be able

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to get off of you'll get off
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And it's probably not going to take. It's probably not going to take.

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You know, you're both picks.
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it's it's it's almost a no win
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Prior to the extension, I would
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like, what are you playing for
the future for? But now I realize

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why he's why exactly why he's playing
for the future. He might be around

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apparently. I understand both schools of
thought is you shouldn't be like you have

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age thirty eight season Lebron James coming
up. You have to be about the

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now. But if you don't want
to mortgage your future to get out of

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one mistake, I understand it.
I just don't think I think some Lakers

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fans have like undersold how much of
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Russ's contract. Yes, it's expiring, but you're not acquiring Russ to then

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remove him or use him. You're
just probably buying him out, waiving him,

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telling him to go away. And
that's a huge, like chunk of

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dead money to then have on your
books. And so you are paying it's

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not a Lakers tax, it's the
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And then they want value for the
players they're sending out. So I understood

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the asking price, and I also
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also with you that I do think
there's a chance they wind up being able

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to move Russ without having to give
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of the season when the light is
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for some of these teams. And
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it'll be the package. I don't. I definitely don't. Again, I

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don't fault their logic, but the
Lakers fans that were just like, well,

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they should do it for one first
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you're kind of missing the point a
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since those same into funny thing you
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Those same folks will then point out
all of the difference trades that have

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been made in the past that where
they say you just wasted a pick,

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you threw you tacking a pick on
the wasted it. So there is no

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winning, you know, with these
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be moved. But here, let
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you, because I haven't heard people
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in the event that, okay,
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is looking to which realistically I believe
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know, kind of similar to how
they've done you know, like it's kind

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of similar to how they've done with
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where they selectively you'll put people down, you know what I mean, they

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put they they temporarily put people,
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I could see a situation where you
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it would probably have to be it
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multi multi team deal. And you
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because here's one for you. Last
thirty games of the year the we Always

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Loved You and you Always Loved Us
tour when you're all trying to lose with

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Russ going back home no case.
And I'm not and be clear, I'm

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not saying Okcy gives up any of
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of their top talent. I'm saying
you involved them because it because of that

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part of it that makes sense,
and because they also haven't They got plenty

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of picks, plenty plenty of picks
if did want to get involved in that

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conversation. I'm here for the narrative
of you, of that return story,

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and also I'm begging them to please
be involved in that in that return story.

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I get the issue with them is
they just don't have the matching money

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to like, you're not giving up
Shay in that deal, and so it'd

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be tough to get the money if
if they were like to pounce on the

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buyout. More like if Russ was
waived and he just saw it there for

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like an end of season tour,
that would be kind of sad for him,

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I feel like, but like I'd
be all for like the thunder if

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you're really looking at tank, like
why not go that route it's just so

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his fall is just like in terms
of perception and value has just been so

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swift and stark. And that kind
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oh, go ahead, if you
had something to say on that. It's

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just Darvin Ham mentioning us to the
bench is a realignment? Do you think

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that's the smart move and will it's
stick? I think it's the only move

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that made sense from the start.
And I know that sounds crazy. I

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know I realized why Frank Vogel you
couldn't get his and his staff. I

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don't want to, you know,
just make this about Frank Vogel. I

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realized why the previous regime couldn't do
that, or why it felt as though

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they couldn't do that. But it's
the only thing that made sense from the

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start. Like and the idea that
a lineup that has Lebron and Russ in

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it at the same time is going
to be successful for an extended period of

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time, it just doesn't make sense
to me. And look, this is

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coming from someone and anybody. Look
the tapes are there, tapes. I

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was wrong last year, and no
reason why I was wrong because I wanted

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it to be true as opposed to
just actually looking at this, looking at

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the situation for what it was that
you know, that's that's oil and water.

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It doesn't make it doesn't make sense. Yes, that you can get

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away with it for a couple of
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in a final, you know,
in a clothe you in a close situation

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where Russ has been playing Will or
if he's got you know, he's got

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you know, a better matchup.
But in terms of like the long term

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deal, that never made sense to
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I'm hopeful, but I'm not going
to be silly and you know, jump

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out the window on these yo like
I did last year. I'm hopeful that

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that he'll at least be willing to
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He rush does seem at least open
to doing more things than he did last

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year. In season's past, I
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hang this up at all, Like
if he's not ready to go or miss

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his time. Maybe some people would
view that as a blessing in disguise,

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but I'm like I'd always assume they're
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and then after like a few games, if it wasn't working, that's when

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you make the move. And I'm
like, does this make it easier to

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be like, well, we're just
going to integrate you from the bench when

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you come back. I'm just we
didn't see the sample. They did it

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for one preseason game he got injured. Was so I'm just very curious to

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see how what happens to start of
the season then how the whole Russ off

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the bench dynamic actually works. I
think that the point you just made is

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perfect. I think it does make
it easier. I think it makes it

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easier transition, It makes it easier
your conversation, because the truth of the

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matter is if he you know,
like, if he misses any you know,

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any amount of time, and you
know, like and they have all

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of the reason, all of the
all of the reasons to say like,

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hey, look we've got it going. We had already talked about having you

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do it. Let's go ahead and
start you off that and then honestly,

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whether it goes well or it goes
poorly, you RUSS is no longer at

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a level to where you have to
worry about, like, you know what,

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I'm saying, you know, you
know, to where you have to

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worry about like, oh, are
we disrespecting because quite frankly, he's been

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disrespected, you know, since he
put on that Lakers uniform. So it's

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so it kind of it kind of
did make it easy, you know,

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you know, if in fact he
you know, he's not able to go

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at the beginning of the season.
It actually and you know, you know,

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you have a question coming up about
the guard rotation. The injuries made

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you know, the preseason injuries made
the guard rotation a little bit you know,

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make a little bit more sense for
this coaching staff at least coming out

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the blocks. That is a good
segue into my next question, though,

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is independent of russ what did you
think about their off season? Were there

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any additions that you especially liked,
didn't like? And really the real question

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here is does Rob Polinka get paid
by the guard that he signs? I

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mean, it's gotta be. It
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have you have dirt on him or
he's got dirt on the entire organism.

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No I, I kid, I
liked some of the guys that they brought

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in and and and on paper they
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are tremendous impact guys or none of
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Do I think that a guy like
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impact as like Malik Monk did.
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Monk, you know than a lot
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last year. You know, he
was up, and he was up and

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down, but by and large he
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course of over the course of the
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know, take from that what you
will, uh, you know, shout

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out to him. I hope he
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there a Sacramento this year. But
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you know, being the type of
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off of a D and off of
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of Lebron I'm forgetting, you know, perhaps the greatest player ever forgetting his

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name over the course of a conversation. But no, I could see him

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playing well. And that makes a
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is this, none of the moves
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moving Russ and and and I don't
want to make this into Believe me,

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I like the NBA Twitter and podcasting
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like let's just shoot on Russ,
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that's not where you were going with
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it clear that's not where I'm going
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this offseason and make these moves and
bring in all of these small guards that

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very clearly you're going to be taken
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have if you planned on bringing him
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him. So as crazy as it
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an incomplete offseason until they figure out
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And like if you no matter what, they're just gonna roll with this,

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you know, up until the trading
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this is not going to be a
very good team, and it is

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not going to be even there's not
there's not very much you know, like

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you know, to discuss. It's
going to be a middling team that on

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some nights look on some nights look
really good, Like when ADS is super

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you engaged and impactful, they're they're
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Lebron decides like, hey, you
know what if even in year even at

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thirty eight or even in year twenty, I'm still that guy. Yeah,

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that's going to look good. But
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not going to move the needle.
And that's and that has to be frustrated

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from Lakers fans. I say it
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everything you said. Is there one
addition, and let's call it the non

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Patrick Beverley division that you think is
going to be particularly impactful in a good

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way, that maybe people aren't given
enough shine too. Well, that's actually

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where I would that's actually what I
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I and believe me, I get
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you know, you know that people
being uncertain, like, well, really

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you're there with your mL E Okay
that you know, that's cool. But

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I look at it like this,
he's you know, he's a six four

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guard that can you know you know
that that can you know, get up

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and down the court? You know, can you can finish? You know,

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you can you finish over the top? Can do a lot of things

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a couple of years back. I
don't have that. You know, this

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is you know, as unprepared,
is as as you'll see. So I

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don't it's not in front of me, but I feel like he's shot upwards

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of thirty five thirty six percent from
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and you and off of uh,
you know, La Market prior to him

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being moved a couple of years ago. I think, you know, I

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would imagine that if you put him, if you put him in the mix

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and he gets comfortable with a D
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could that could return. He's a
guy that, honestly, if if he's

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a live body and a guy that
you can depend upon and he could spread

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the court a little bit, I
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like having the most impact. I
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that it's going to be Thomas Bryant, or it's going to be you know,

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you know, it's going to be
you know Jones. But neither one

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of them have differentiated that. Neither
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have stood out over the over the
quar season. We'll see if we'll see

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if they can develop into something develop
some time, you know, some sort

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of you know, some sort of
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the season. But right now,
heading me in if I had to guess,

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it's probably the only Walker. Yeah, and look, he was on

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a heater to close last year too. I just if he hits, like

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if the possessions they're gonna give him, like where he's creating for himself or

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dribbling, they'll they'll definitely be value
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it's when they made the move,
it was to me it was fine.

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I thought it was actually a worthwhile
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off season kind of fell into place
and I was like, oh, a

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mind is wanted to Skano Anderson still
though, I think it wouldn't shock me

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if he's a part of like some
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units. They it would be nice
if he could give you some higher volume

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on offense. But he does at
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He can hit threes if he's wide
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you a lot of malluability on defense. And the Lakers just don't have a

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lot of those guys on this roster
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and a d aside, they have
like Austin Reeves and want Toscano Anderson and

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that's pretty much it. Yeah,
like the fact that he's like the only

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wing, only true wing, you
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call him like a three point five
rather than that's like you can't even get

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like one true wing. It's just
so their commitment to having non wings on

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the rosters actually impressive at this point
in a league where everyone agrees. I

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won't necessarily go as far to say
it's a wings league, but you need

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wings. You absolutely need interchangeable guys
that you know between six six five vision

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six nine is you absolutely have to
have them. And they're just like,

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no, no, no, we're
good. We have have six guys that

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are six four and under that also
are going to be competing for one another

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and oh, by the way,
play the position. Never mind. Yeah,

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I don't want to continue to go
down that rabbit hole because it'll sound

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like I'm being frustrated with rest when
I'm really just frustrated with this organization and

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the decision that they've been making as
you should be. I will say,

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I have another question about a guard
surprise surprise, any early impressions after Malik

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Monk, after Kendrick Nunn and missus
all last year at the ankle and the

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stuff, and early impressions about his
fit or just how you expect him to

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impact this team. So it's crazy
that this sounds while no, technically it's

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not in an offseason edition, it
is because they didn't have them all of

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last year. We you know,
we got the you know, five days

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or seven to ten days or reevaluating
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they three weeks just to death,
you know, when it came to you

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know, his actual availability. But
he has been he has been nice and

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he played. His play in the
preseason made me say, okay, at

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least that's what you saw. At
least that's the reason why you made that

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move. And I get that.
The truth of the mass is I think

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he played. I think he does
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And that is precisely why he'll eventually
be in some sort of deal involving

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Russ because I think another team is
gonna say, look, if you're not

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gonna give us Reeves or like maybe
one other thing that you got on that

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roster, then we're gonna go ahead
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they had in mind with getting all
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guards because they you know, they
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two or three of them at the
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But you know, I guess time
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doing that. I hadn't really thought
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good point. I do think none
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some downhill pressure and off ball shooting, probably a little bit more on ball

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shooting attempts than you would like at
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I think he could wind up having
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But that meaning said, when you
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including Austin Reeves, and Austin Reeves
is now a wing. It's been the

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side of that. Austin Reeves is
a wing on this team. Who do

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you see most likely if they keep
the roster like this or until a rush

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trade, who's most likely to get
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Is it? Is it? Dennis
shrewder Man I have no freaking clue what

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to do. I'm looking at the
regard rotation right now. I mean,

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what to do with this, because
look, you have the one guy in

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None that's coming off extended, and
to read that, as we just alluded

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to, I'm leading cells with you. I hope to see him we're with

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this team, or at least being
productive enough to be like as a member

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of a transaction. Then you have
a guy in Shrewder. You know,

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he's returning to the mix where you'd
imagine he'd he'd at least expect opportunities,

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you know, once he's fully healthy. They also go out. You go

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out and you make a move for
a guy in Beverly that at the very

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least signaled that he'd beat your stint. You you know, like, you

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know, we already talked about him. You signed Lonnie Walker, and you

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clearly plan to give him plenty of
work. Oh and by the way,

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you also have Russell Westbrook in this. So honestly, I don't know what

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the look. I know I'm not
really offering you much, but I don't

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know how they're going to solve this
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I'm wondering too, if injuries solved
for them just you already have. Shrewder

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is expect to miss an indefin amount
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hamstring stuff. Is Kendrick non gonna
need some maintenance nights off after missing all

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of last year? We don't.
We don't really know. And Beverly is

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like kind adorable, but he's always
dealt with stuff too, so maybe that's

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what they're Also, it's still a
weird thing to bank on. But I'm

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wondering if until they actually make a
move, that injury is just sort of

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solved, not solved, but at
least address the I want to say addressed.

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I don't want injuries, but I'm
just wondering if having to plan around

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injuries sort of makes the decision for
them. It might. And you know

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what, the one thing that I
will say, or one of the things

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that I will give you know,
Darvenham and his you know, origime credit

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for is they at least are making
it sound like it's gonna be a meritocracy.

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So if that's the case, if
it's if if it's going to be

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like you know, you eat what
you hunt, then you know that'll kind

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of take gal take care of itself. Yeah huh, well, you know

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what, you can kick flip on
somewhere else then. No, I feel

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that that was very NBA twitter of
me, just and yeah, sorry,

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sorry, I can't help you.
No. I I feel as though the

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people that you know, that that
that stand out will be rewarded and and

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and I know this is the NBA, and you know, so there's always

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going to be a balance between that
actually you know that coming to fruition and

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still dealing with you know, real
life human beings and you know, folks

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that are and been expecting opportunities.
But I'm trying, I was trying to

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think of a nicer way to see
None of those guys are you have a

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big enough name or or incredible enough
to where you have to worry about their

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feelings so much that you can't just
actually coach them. So maybe that's where

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you know, maybe that's where it
was, and I'm talking about the outside

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of us. Yes, that's a
great point. Look, thank god I

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brought you on this podcast and not
think of like the past two things that

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you said. Moving on from the
guards, because we could turn into the

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whole part podcast about guards from what
I saw in preseason Anthony Davis looks pretty

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good. The injuries that are propping
up now, I really do feel like

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they're precautionary, like when it happens
to the regular thingson We can have a

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conversation there are you do you buy
into him just having this monster revenge season

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after having two years of sort of
blah blah returns by his standards anyway,

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and what specifically when you look at
his game and what you've seen over the

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past couple of years, what are
you going to be watching most closely look

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at Honestly, it's so cliche at
this stage. And honestly, Dan,

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you know that I don't do the
jokes about the health and stuff because I'll

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be honest with you, I think
that's a very weird energy. You know

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that that so many folks, whether
it's NBA, Twitter or even folks that

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cover the league. You know,
like you know I have I have gotten

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to But it really has a matter
of health. If he's healthy, I

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think Anthony Davis can have that bounce
back year. And it is you know,

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I clearly the motivation is there.
Clearly he has plenty of whether it's

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you know, bulletin board material or
you know, you just play an endless

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loop of Charles Barkley calling him you
know, street clothes or whatever, whatever

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the hell he was calling. However
you want to be motivated, that is

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there, But it's it's about his
health. The last couple you know,

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you know, last couple of years, he got hurt in freaky ways.

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It wasn't just like it wasn't just
a matter of like oh eighties, you

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know, fragile. He just you
know, it was a non contact people

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came up, you know, like
people one guy like flew into his knee

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and another guy stepped underneath it,
and you know, stepped under needs his

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lay. It's unfortunate. I've I
phrased it this way. Anthony Davis doesn't

408
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,880
have a chronic injury. Getting injured
is Anthony Davis is chronic injury because it's

409
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,039
always something different, and that's like
that doesn't necessarily speak to his fragility.

410
00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:07,279
It's like bad luck. It could
speak to his fragility, but that is

411
00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:10,119
that's what makes it so tough to
wrap your head around, because there's not

412
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,400
just this one thing that keeps reoccurring
with him. It's it's everything exactly that.

413
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:21,799
So I rambled on you know,
long enough to say I think he

414
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has it in him. I do
believe that he has because I've seen him

415
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,279
play and at incredible levels. Do
I anticipate his true shooting percentage to be

416
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,200
like fifty nine percent as it was
in the bubble. No, but the

417
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:37,880
shoot the shot looks smoother, you
know, this preseason, especially especially compared

418
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,079
to last year. I'm one of
those people that normally, like when I

419
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,240
when I see guys saying like,
oh, well, you know last year

420
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,640
I was dealing with this or whatever. I'm normally one of those guys that

421
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,240
says, like, yeah, okay, okay, okay, but you were

422
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:51,519
out there. But I think there
may be something too that specifically because of

423
00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:53,480
how comfortable he looked shooting the ball, or he looked shooting the ball in

424
00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:56,880
the you know, in the limited
preseason action you know that we did see

425
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:02,039
from him. So I'm optimistic with
him. I think he can return more

426
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:08,960
than anything if the legs are good
and he can be the defensive have the

427
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:11,759
impact on the defensive end that he
has had in the past. I think

428
00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:15,400
we're important to anything. I know
that I know that Coach ham and and

429
00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:18,359
you know, like and people have
made you made made the point that you

430
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,200
know running the offense through him.
I don't care about what the guy scores.

431
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,839
I know that he might, but
I don't care about you, like

432
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:26,640
know, the offense in that flow. As long as he's an all world

433
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,079
defender, the lookers are actually interesting. If he's not an all World defender,

434
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,319
they're not going to be interesting.
So none of this is gonna matter.

435
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:36,519
And look, the offense is not
gonna run through Anthony Davis. We're

436
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:38,519
in like year twelve of Lebron saying
that the offense is gonna be run through

437
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:41,079
someone else's gonna be run through Lebron. And the part of the value of

438
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,200
idea is that he can score twenty
five points a game entirely within the flow

439
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,279
of the offense. The health is
I mean your spot on that. That's

440
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:51,559
what you have to watch for.
I'd also be looking for he got his

441
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,240
volume up at the RIM last year, which was good, but I will

442
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,319
be looking at the mid range frequency
in volume and how much he's relying on

443
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,720
it. Does he have counters If
that SHOT's not falling, the Lakers get

444
00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,519
him. If it's not higher volume
at the rim, better quality looks at

445
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:06,559
the rim or they're gonna have enough
spacing for him to kind of get to

446
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,079
the basket. And then you already
talked about the three ball. Look,

447
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:11,640
he's got like forty percent or something
in the preseason. If that's like a

448
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:15,599
thing like that, will that is
gonna make some people, like so many

449
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,119
people look like idiots because that's something
that you've always been waiting on. Again,

450
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,160
I wouldn't predict it, but if
that's what happens, if he's shooting

451
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,200
efficiently from the perimeter, it it
gives the Lakers this entirely new, dangerous

452
00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:30,240
offensive dimension that they when you look
at what they want to accomplish in the

453
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:33,160
West, if they're not gonna make
any other moves, their best bet to

454
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:38,119
shock and awe is Anthony Davis kind
of leveling up his offense. Look,

455
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,480
I'll just be blunt about it.
The Lakers need to Anthony Davis to be

456
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:45,079
incredible this year. I don't know
if he if he can, but I'm

457
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,440
hopeful. I've seen him. I've
seen him flashes of but I've seen him.

458
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,519
I've seen him you know clearly,
you know, clearly be a top

459
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,119
line player. I don't even you
know, like when we get into like

460
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,920
the rankings thing. I don't care
what you whether you consider him, you

461
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,839
know, top ten, top five
team where they need him to be too,

462
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,839
played like a top five guy on
a regular basis for them to actually

463
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,359
have any any sort of you know, like any sort of opportunity. And

464
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,240
if he if he's fully healthy and
available, we'll see if he's got that.

465
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,519
If he's not healthy, he's not
gonna matter. He has already made

466
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:17,559
some passive aggressive comments about playing the
five. Do you this doesn't need to

467
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:19,799
be like a thing, but do
you understan at this point is it that

468
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,680
much of I know he's dealt with
a bunch of injuries too, Is it

469
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,599
that much of a difference now sliding
from the four to the five in today's

470
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:33,400
league? Like if you're gonna look
at the game, Yeah, But like

471
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:41,519
anyway, I'm trying. I'm doing
my best not to just go into just

472
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:44,920
NBA, Twitter and areas, but
I gotta be honest with you, I'm

473
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,839
so tired of hearing about this.
I'm so like part of me's like Lakers.

474
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,640
This man was on record, he
was on wax that he did not

475
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:55,920
play in the five prior to even
cut you put it on the propelent goal.

476
00:27:56,319 --> 00:28:00,680
Y'all knew the job. Y'all knew, So why why down the line

477
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,839
now we're into what you're three?
Is it whether you're four, we're four

478
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,160
years in or whatever? To get
whatever, I've lost track of time.

479
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,440
It all blends in and you're still
and you're still talking about this. Now.

480
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,839
What what I actually think took place
is they expected one or both those

481
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,759
bigs that they brought in to be
more impactful to you know, to look

482
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:25,519
better next to him and in the
preseason, and obviously you're like in in

483
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:27,599
there, you're in their camp and
in their practices. They aren't seeing that,

484
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,680
because that's probably the only reason why
all of a sudden that you know

485
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,240
that, you know, that conversation
is being floated out there. I think

486
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:37,720
more than anything, if Ham asks
him to play it, he's gonna play

487
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,319
it. He going to Is he
going to be happy about it? Probably

488
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,079
not? But you know, ultimately
my thought on it is, if the

489
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,559
guy likes playing the four, just
playing him at the four, I believe

490
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,680
me, I understanderstand the conversation.
They like but they're better at this or

491
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:55,799
you know, I get it.
If the guy likes playing the four,

492
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,160
and you're in and you're in the
business with Anthony Davis, just let him

493
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,319
play the figure out. Beyond that, I would be mostly with you,

494
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,319
especially during the it's haveing Anthy Davis
close at the five. Anthy Davis has

495
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:11,720
to play more five in the playoffs. Those are givens. And my whole

496
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:15,200
thing there though, is the Lakers
are not a given when it comes to

497
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,759
the playoffs, and so playing him
at the five might be their best route

498
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:21,160
to actually win enough regular season games
to be in that mix. Otherwise I

499
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,480
would totally agree it's you know,
yeah, playing at the fore most of

500
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,839
the time of playment at the five
when it matters. I just when I

501
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,519
look at this team, it feels
like a whole lot of the regular season

502
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:33,720
games are gonna matter for them.
It is and and and ultimately, you

503
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,319
know, maybe it's gonna boil down
to when he's you know, when when

504
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:41,759
he when he gets into the mix
again and he starts feeling good about himself.

505
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:42,680
And know, and when I say
good about myself, I'm trying about

506
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,319
physically because obviously, you know,
with you know, with professional athletes,

507
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:48,000
you know their body is there,
you know, is truly their motor So

508
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,400
you just we'll see how it goes
over those first ten games. I feel

509
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,519
like he's going to probably settle close
to the numbers that he put. You

510
00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,799
know that he played in twenty twenty. And this is totally just me,

511
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,640
you know, pulling it. So
any numbers guys out there, if you

512
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:04,640
you know, if you correct it
after the fact, you can call me

513
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,279
you needed. That's fine, Jobar
Davis, NBA. I feel like he

514
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,039
was playing at least half, if
not more, of his minutes at the

515
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,640
five. But start pretting at the
four. If you have to do it

516
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,079
that way, that's fine. Just
you know what I'm saying, Like,

517
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:22,720
if for his if only for his
sensibilities, start him at the four,

518
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:26,400
shift him to the five, have
him about you like, you know,

519
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,119
play it as needed throughout the course
of the game, and close with him

520
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:33,799
at the five. Unless one of
those five is having having an incredible game

521
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,680
or the matchup, you know the
matchup is beneficial to have him at the

522
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,640
four. Do you have any faith
or preference or just when you look at

523
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,400
Damien Jones and Thomas Bryan, if
you had to pick which one plays a

524
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,720
bigger positive role, who would it
be? I feel like it's gonna be

525
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,960
Thomas Bryant, but honestly with him, with him as well, like I

526
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:53,880
hope he stays healthy, you know
what I'm saying. I hope he's able

527
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,279
to you'll, you'll stay out there
on the court. It feels like it's

528
00:30:56,319 --> 00:31:00,920
going to be Thomas Bryant. I'm
honestly between the two. I have not

529
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,079
I haven't seen enough to say like, oh yeah, it's definitely him or

530
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:07,559
it's definitely not going to be that
guy. I think I'm more intrigued by

531
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,039
Damien Jones as a player, and
the Lakers seem to believe that, and

532
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,359
like you go back and watch like
some of the minutes they played with the

533
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:18,039
Kings last year, like oh my
god on offense, But Thomas Bryant's gonna

534
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:19,880
be the cleaner fit. But the
Lakers also seem to think that Damien Jones

535
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,000
can be like a stretch big and
like we'll have to see I have not

536
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,559
seen enough or any of that,
and so it might just like is one

537
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:30,079
you and Gabriel the best five on
this team is wanted, Sconnay Anderson.

538
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:33,119
You gonna be the best five on
this team that's not Anthony Davis. So

539
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,960
they have questions there too. I
mean, but if you're the Pacers,

540
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,599
you'd be looking at that ad quote
like, you know, they thought they

541
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:41,759
were gonna get Mileston or cheaper in
the middle of the year. But if

542
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,920
a D's campaigning to play less five
in November or something, my lord,

543
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,720
you know, honestly, I hadn't
thought about that. But yes, I

544
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,160
like, if you're Kevin Pritchard and
and all the folks that wait, is

545
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,599
Kevin Pritchard still there in the front
office, like or did I just date

546
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,480
myself? Okay, I was gonna
say, really did I Just if you're

547
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:01,160
Kevin, you're and you're the folks
that are making decisions over there, you're

548
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,799
looking at it and say, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what

549
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,480
a D. You are right,
You're exactly right. You make such an

550
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:12,000
excellent point you are for what are
they thinking? You know, we wouldn't

551
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,039
do that. No, but yeah, that's a that's neither here nor there.

552
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:20,119
I think they find an answer there. It might not be Thomas,

553
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:22,799
it might not be either one of
the guys currently there. What are you

554
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:28,680
looking to see from Austin Reeves in
year two? More than anything, consistency

555
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:30,240
because last year he you know,
he showed flashes, he had you know,

556
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:34,079
he showed signs. And I recognize
people are gonna say, like,

557
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,119
oh, Lakers fans hyping up one
of their guys again, you know,

558
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:40,680
and Yoda and yeah, and I
was gonna say, there's something to that,

559
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,839
but like that's actually every fan base, Every fan base loves their you

560
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,240
know, loves their you know,
loves their guys. Either loves or hates

561
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:49,720
you know. It just it just
depends on it depends on where you are.

562
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,799
I I think he's shown the signs
that he's a quality basketball player,

563
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,039
especially in particular at this level,
now that he's had the benefit of navigating

564
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:05,920
that seat, you know, navigating
last season, uh and navigating and the

565
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,759
benefits of a professional NBA off season, I would expect just consistency, you

566
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:14,119
know, so you know still,
you know, still you'll show plenty of

567
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,480
those signs, but you know,
just more on a consistent basis, and

568
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:21,160
to be honest with you, look, I promise you and within the next

569
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:22,640
two to three months, people are
going to say, you guys are over

570
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:27,240
hyping him. I think they actually
have a gym there. I think he's

571
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:29,680
I think he's a quality I think
he's a quality, you know, NBA

572
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,599
starter, not just NBA rotation guy, NBA starter, and can developed and

573
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,240
actually has the you know, has
the you know, has the space to

574
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:38,960
develop in that because you know this
is not a right now. Yeah,

575
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:43,480
I'm very intrigued with him. It's
just sort of like this complimentary connector,

576
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,079
especially on offense, and he's probably
I mean, he's one of their better

577
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:50,200
perimeter defenders at this point too.
But like just he shot just good enough

578
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,519
on catch and shoot threes last year's
like in the thirty seven percent, like

579
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,400
thirty seven plus percent. Excuse me, let's see how reactive defenses closed out

580
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,680
him and harder. But even when
defensive we're closing out on him, he

581
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:02,119
was using screens and space to like
pump and go. We busted out a

582
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,839
little bit of a floater. And
so no, I don't think this is

583
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:07,720
a future star, but this is
someone who is like when I'm building the

584
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:12,119
Lakers closing unit and if we're making
it a meritocracy, Austin Reeves is probably

585
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,920
in it for me. He absolutely
has to be in it. And look,

586
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,360
obviously, you know it's situational like
you're with anything like, but in

587
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,559
the NBA it's situational. But I
think that he's shown enough and I think

588
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:30,000
he's just just's he's good enough on
this roster to where he should probably be

589
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:34,880
in that conversation regardless, especially because
this has been sort of a pessimistic leaning

590
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,639
podcast, the Lakers have any just
strengths that aren't receiving enough attention as we

591
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:44,079
lead into the regular season. Man, I hate to go back to this,

592
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,639
well, but so many people have
been, you know, like,

593
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,480
for whatever their reasons are, have
been out on a d that a healthy

594
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:58,039
AD is one hundred percent a strength
and one like couldn't take them from being

595
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:00,360
a Lime to being like, oh
no, they they are a playoff team.

596
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,440
And then like like when we get
to the end of it and and

597
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,480
it's all said and done, we
look back and people are then saying like,

598
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:07,880
well, of course they're a playoff
team because they had all that time.

599
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:14,599
No, I think I think specifically
again, they the Lakers absolutely need

600
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,840
Anthony Davis to be their best player. And I know how that sounds the

601
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:20,280
folk. You know, the focal
points always going to be Lebron. You

602
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,119
know, it's a Lebron, It's
a Lebron centric world or universe, and

603
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,159
in particular, you know, but
Anthony Davis has to be their best player,

604
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,079
and now that he's finally healthy,
my honest opinion is that like him,

605
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:36,159
being healthy is their strength and could
and could and could bring them back

606
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:39,960
into a conversation of litimacy. I
won't say into your all your outright contention,

607
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,400
but it's a conversation of legitimacy,
I will say too. And they

608
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,440
did get out and transition a bunch
of last year. But if you have

609
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:50,960
healthy ad if Ross is involved here
having Reeves and then Kendrick Nunn, if

610
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,519
he stays healthy, it seemed could
be like a sneaky dominant team in transition.

611
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:58,400
They have, you know, between
a d and Lebron and Russ Bev.

612
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,760
They have some guys even none if
they're gonna get a board, like

613
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,559
you can just grab it and go. And I think that might be something

614
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,880
that's underrated about this team. But
I don't know if I'm reaching there too

615
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,079
much. It's like with everything like
it it's I hate it. But I

616
00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:15,800
was like, just stay healthy.
Yes I want that, but just stay

617
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,880
healthy like everybody, everybody, stay
good everybody. But yeah, no,

618
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:22,320
I think that's an excellent point.
I would anticipate that, and honestly,

619
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,480
even working JTA into some of those
lineups get like like if they get up

620
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,320
and start and start putting pressure on
teams, I could absolutely see them like,

621
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,039
look, all right, you didn't
ask for like award predictions, but

622
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:37,800
I'm gonna go ahead and put it
out there. I put money on Anthony

623
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,719
Davis went in the Defensive Player of
the Year award. That's how much of

624
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,159
an impact I think he's going to
have. Do I think that? Now?

625
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,119
Do I think it's a guarantee?
Like, I'm not one of those

626
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:47,039
folks. It's like, hey,
I'm a shark, and I know no,

627
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:50,599
no, no, no, no, Like there are definitely some fields

628
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:52,960
going in there, but I I
legitimately think he's you know, he can

629
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:57,039
return to form on that end of
the court to the point where you know

630
00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:00,639
it can impact them to where he's
a part of that conversation. One of

631
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:04,840
my favorite things to do leading into
the season is try and identify if the

632
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,000
roster stays the same or at least
to start the year, who will be

633
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:08,559
the Like the ten man rotation,
not a rotations are ten guys, but

634
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:12,880
the top ten most use players the
Lakers one is kind of a trip.

635
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:15,280
But I'm gonna throw out my locks
and then see how you would flush out

636
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,440
the rest if you didn't see if
you agree with the locks, I've Beverly

637
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,519
none, Reeves, Lebron, eighty
Russ, and then my locks kind of

638
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:27,599
end there, like are those are
those the six locks? I think that's

639
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:30,840
I think that's realistic. I think
that's realistic because like, like, let's

640
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:36,679
be real. I actually want positive
things for Dennis Shrewder. I do.

641
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,519
But for whatever reason he had like
like, it's not it's not because the

642
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:44,239
Lakers did it to him, because
he's had you know, these last like

643
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,519
four stops. It just simply has
not worked. It simply has not lasted

644
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,320
nor Yeah, no, no,
I'm I'm just agreeing with you. Oh

645
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,800
no, okay, I thought you
had. I thought you had a nugget

646
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,840
for me. I was like,
oh, like maybe there's something about him

647
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,599
that I don't know. No,
like you, for whatever the reason,

648
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,079
it hasn't worked out. So there's
certainly no guarantee that you know, there

649
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,239
there can't be any guarantee that he's
a lock. You know. You know

650
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,840
we've talked about Damien Jones. I
like his lively you know he goes he's

651
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,719
a lively body, winging Gabriel that
you mentioned a moment ago, a lively

652
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,440
body. But like, there's no
way that we can can honestly sit here

653
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,880
and say not if we can generally
sit here and say like, yeah,

654
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,239
guarantee those guys are going to be
in the active rotation with regularity because they

655
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,119
haven't been at any point of the
in their careers. God, they have

656
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,119
to add Lonnie Walker the fourth to
my list just because you spent the entire

657
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:40,119
mini mle on him. Oh what
forgive me? For whatever reason I assumed

658
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,039
that you mentioned him? No,
yeah, yeah, there should be seven

659
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:49,400
locks and and you know what,
Okay, again not diss in your arrust,

660
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,800
but for this team, in terms
of impact, I would put him

661
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,400
above Rus. I would put him
as as the number six guy, like

662
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:58,800
you know, like as a lock
you know you're for this team. I

663
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,440
will say they JTA would be a
lock for this rotation. If I was

664
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:07,039
Darvinham to get to eight and then
nine is very much like Damien Jones or

665
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,239
Thomas Bryant, and then I guess
you have some room to play around like

666
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,239
Dennis Dennis Shrewder's in there, like
you know, do they believe in Troy

667
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,400
Brown Junior. I know a lot
of people seem to like him. It's

668
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,159
just it's funny. There is a
Lakers effect or like Troy Brown Junior was

669
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:22,840
viewed as oh, he'll plug this
three and D winghole, and it was

670
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,840
like, no, you haven't watched
a lot of Troy Brown Junior, have

671
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,320
you? And not not that you
don't even need to watch a lot of

672
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,119
Troy Brown Junior to understand that that's
not who Troy Brown. Yeah, that's

673
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:35,800
not who he is. Like,
but then again, like I all right,

674
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,719
yeah, I will go ahead and
see it. Rob Blink is either

675
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,400
an absolute genius yeah, you know, honestly, the thing with Rob is

676
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,519
like I wonder, like like and
I get it, you know we we

677
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,039
we speak of the NBA being positionless, and while yes, there's absolutely certain

678
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,559
you know something too that with how
a lot of teams are playing at this

679
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:58,559
stage, you still you know,
you still can't make you know, a

680
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:00,519
six two guy be a three and
D one like that. I'll be honest

681
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:04,800
with you, like, unless unless
he's Tony Allen like that just doesn't know

682
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,519
that that's just not going to happen. So like I don't know what you

683
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:09,800
know, I don't know what to
think about it, Like how they put

684
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,440
this together? What do you think
should be their go to closing unit?

685
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:17,239
And this team more than most might
play the matchups more, But you're Darvin

686
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,199
Ham, what are what's the what's
the closing lineup crutch that you're leaning on.

687
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:24,599
It kind of goes back to what
we've already discussed it. For me,

688
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,079
it's Ad Brunn and Reeves and and
then and then the conversation starts.

689
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:31,440
It's similar to you know it and
here's a nod to you know, to

690
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:35,800
the Vogel regime. Similar to how
they did things in twenty twenty. It

691
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,079
would you know, they had their
set guys and in the last two it

692
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:40,679
was it was it really was,
you know, depending upon the matchup,

693
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,199
depending upon who was bringing it that
night, depending upon you you know,

694
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,840
you know who had things going.
And honestly, with this, with you

695
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,800
know, with this roster, that's
what this absolutely feels like it's set up

696
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,639
to be. I don't think that. I don't you know, I don't

697
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:57,239
think any of the other guys and
and potentially even Reeves, I don't think

698
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,920
any of them are are are guaranteed
to be you know, to be closers,

699
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,000
especially at this stage. I mean
obviously in the in the early going,

700
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:06,440
you know, this is where you're
finding that out, but even across

701
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,000
the board that you're down the stretch
with, you know, with this roster,

702
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:12,400
unless someone just stands out completely,
I really do think it's going to

703
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,800
be a matter of who's got to
go in that night, who has the

704
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,039
better matchup and you know, and
who fits better with with A D and

705
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:22,320
Lebron on on that particular game,
for that particular game. I echo what

706
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,039
you said there. I am most
intrigued by the three you mentioned, Reeves,

707
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,039
Lebron, A D and then probably
Jta and Beverly or maybe none instead

708
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:34,280
of Beverly. That might be the
setup that a most that if I had

709
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,199
a guest, would be their most
effective one. That being said, is

710
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,440
there a weirdo, bonkers off the
beaten path lineup you want to see Darvin

711
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,199
Ham try this season? I want
to see a D, Broun, j

712
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,119
T A, Reeves and Walk.
I want them to get up in people's

713
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:52,440
I wanted them to get up in
people's asses and go like, let's have

714
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:54,360
fun with it. At least at
least be interesting, yo, if you

715
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,960
need to go back to old school, you know, you know, ninety

716
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:01,800
for for you to press your that's
what I want to see. But honestly,

717
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,519
other than that, there's really not
a lot of like mixes that are

718
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:09,280
interesting. Like I hate to say
this, and you know, I hate

719
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,960
to say this about about the Lakers, but right now, on paper,

720
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,039
they're not interesting. They're not.
I'm kind of with you. I mean,

721
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:21,840
they still have Lebron and a D, but it's just like they're tough

722
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,880
to fit. They're interesting. It's
and I've said this too many times on

723
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,840
the podcast, but like they're morbidly
interesting because it's like, could things go

724
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,639
wrong? Is there a chance they
go right? That's why you're almost tuning

725
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:35,880
in. It's not really because they
have this higher upside that you're banking on

726
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,880
to manifest that right there is what
I You said it perfectly. Look,

727
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:43,000
there's a reason why you do this
thing and why I'm usually behind the scenes

728
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:45,199
when it comes to podcasting. You
put it perfectly, they're interesting, but

729
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,840
just for the wrong reasons there and
this is on a team with a D

730
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,599
and Lebron. So there you go. There, you you put it the

731
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:54,960
most eloquently into safety, so you
win that one out. Mine would be,

732
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,519
if you're gonna sign all these guards, you need to play Anthony Davis

733
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:04,960
with forces like give me none shrewder
Beverly, then we'll have a D.

734
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,760
And then I don't want Russ in
this. I'll count Austin Reeves if we

735
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,119
don't throw him in here, or
look, put your money where your mouth

736
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:13,840
is and just go your four point
guards plus a D and see what happens,

737
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:16,599
to see how bad it is.
And maybe it's sort of Darvin Ham

738
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,760
needs to throw that out as sort
of the hey, look at what this

739
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,719
fucking guy in the front office gave
me. Go ahead and make a move

740
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,800
there, like you play a D
with your four smalls because you don't have

741
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,880
wings to play him with. You
know, he shout out to Darvin,

742
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,280
he's got it. He's got a
guarantee contract, so he could go that

743
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,760
round if you want to do.
But then again, that guy just gave

744
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,159
him that deal in his first opportunity, so maybe, you know, maybe

745
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:43,400
not, But honestly, to that
point, I could see I could absolutely

746
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,280
see you put in a D with
three or four guards like I could I

747
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:50,320
could absolutely and just having fun with
it, because like again, especially if

748
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,599
in particular, you know, say
it's a game like the other night where

749
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,599
and obviously at the time, you
know, when this gets released, it'll

750
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:00,519
it'll be in in the you know, further in the distance. But say

751
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:02,719
it's a game like you're the one
that they played that final preseason game against

752
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,519
Sacramento and the game just simply gets
away from you. Why not? Yah?

753
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:13,199
And then again now now exactly,
I was gonna say, you want

754
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,960
ad playing garbage time minutes? What
the hill? No, you're right,

755
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:21,280
that's fine that I'm just saying,
maybe give Lebron and Reeves like a rest

756
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,199
night on the same night and roll
out Anthony Dave was a four point guard,

757
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,559
so that you can kind of as
just a fuck you to the front

758
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:29,559
office to show them like, this
is what you've saddled us with here.

759
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:35,280
So you before I ask you about
there, I hope we're not at their

760
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,400
place, before I ask you about
their over under really quickly. Do you

761
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:44,159
expect Russell Westbrook to finish the season
on this team? No, I don't.

762
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,039
I think I think they dump thement
the deadline. I I would hit

763
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:49,280
again if you had asked me to
start in a summer, I would have

764
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,079
said, yeah, he's absolutely gonna
you know, he's absolutely gonna be moved,

765
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:53,159
and you know we're not going to
be having this conversation, and yet

766
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,719
here we are. That being said, I still don't expect them to be

767
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,239
there. They're over under has rerecord
this, and I doubt it'll move much.

768
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,440
I mean it'll go up Monday,
but I don't think it's gonna move

769
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:07,840
much lead up to the regular season. Forty four point five. Would you

770
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,400
take the over the under on that? And where do you sort of see

771
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,599
them stacking up in the larger context
of the West. What I thought we

772
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:16,199
were friendly. I thought we were
being cool. I thought it was you

773
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,360
know, it's a Sunday morning.
Here we are. Yeah, if no

774
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,719
one, if anyone who's not watching
on YouTube, Jabari's currently removing a knife

775
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,880
from his back that I strategically I
can't reach it my arms. I got.

776
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,920
Yeah. I think bottom in there
a thirty five to forty win team

777
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:36,719
top in they're probably forty five to
fifty and I and there's gonna be that

778
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,079
That statement right there just pissed everybody
off, because there's gonna be people saying,

779
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:42,159
oh, you're you're you're too hard
on them, and then there's gonna

780
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,079
be Bible saying like forty five to
fifty how to healthy that taking place?

781
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,880
I think kind of as we've had
this conversation, I told you have ads

782
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:52,519
if a d is special and they
can just have relative team health, because

783
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:53,599
no team is going to be healthy, you know, like over the course

784
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:57,280
of the eighty two game season,
but just relative health to where they can

785
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,000
stagger some of the you know you
folks in and out of the line.

786
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,920
I know, I could see them
topping off. You'll like, you're somewhere

787
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,079
in that range. If they're in
there. They're obviously in the playoff conversation.

788
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,400
But yeah, look if they if
they run into a bus all again,

789
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,000
if they you know, if all
of the pieces just simply do not

790
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:16,880
fit and they start to you know, weather the storm of repeated injuries and

791
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,880
multiple injuries at that, Yeah,
it's gonna be another disgusting year in in

792
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Los Angeles for the you know,
for the Lakers and for Lakers. I

793
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:28,559
viewed the forty four point five line
as a kid too. You're telling me

794
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,000
that the over under the number of
games that eighty and Lebron combined to play

795
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:35,079
in is one hundred and twenty five, which is a little bit less fewer

796
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:37,840
than sixty five per So I took
the under just because I don't think Lebron

797
00:46:38,039 --> 00:46:42,280
Like, give Lebron a fucking break
already. That's like, are this team

798
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,840
even set up to play him fewer
than thirty seven minutes per game? At

799
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,960
least he was at thirty seven plus
minutes per game last year. Please tell

800
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:51,840
me that will not be the case
this season. And that's the thing.

801
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,599
He wants to play those minutes.
But sometimes it's kind of like when you

802
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,519
look Ellie, no, I'm I'll
make the reference when you have when you

803
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,559
have a kid that's like, yeah, that kid really loves chocolate cake,

804
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:05,119
and that kid just wants to eat
chome cake non stop. It just eat

805
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:07,519
chocolate cake and eat chok cake.
I'm talking about myself right here, and

806
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:09,480
just do and just do it non
stop. Sometimes for the benefit of that

807
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:12,880
kid, you have to say,
you know what, no, let's not

808
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:15,679
have chocolate cake. And with Lebron
right now, they need that. They

809
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,320
need to say, hey, listen
at thirty eight. It can't play thirty

810
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,599
eight on a nightly basis. You
have to be somewhere in that thirty thirty

811
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:27,800
five range. That's not crazy.
If you look, if you have Lebron

812
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,440
James on your team and he's playing
incredible basketball or you'll you'll still at the

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level that he played last year or
anywhere near it. If you get thirty

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five minutes of that, you should
be able to be You should be able

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to be competitive. If you can't
in thirty three to thirty five, then

816
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that thirty eight is not gonna help, and you're just gonna be adding wear

817
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,719
and tearing yourself. It's not that. So that's a fantastic way of putting

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in because I was gonna rebuttal saying, well, can they win with Lebron

819
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playing fewer than thirty eight? And
look, if you can't win with Lebron

820
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,280
playing thirty three minutes per game,
this ain't your ear and it's time to

821
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:59,880
maybe look in the mirror and figure
out what to do exactly. Is there

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any want anything else about this team? I didn't. We didn't discuss that

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00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:08,719
you think needs to be touched upon, uh more than anything. Shout out

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00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:15,480
Rob for failing upwards. That's us
a shout out I was. That was

825
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:21,039
literally what I was about to say
as I look, if he if he

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wrote a book, or if he
writes a book, I need that.

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I absolutely need that. No,
look, more than anything, I think

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this Lakers team is going to be
better than you know, obviously, I

829
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think they're gonna better than last year. I'm hopeful that they if they do

830
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,360
make that ultimate move, they make
it sooner than later and don't play this

831
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out. You know, you know, don't play this out, you know,

832
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,119
all the way up to the trade
deadline, because honestly, if you

833
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:44,920
do that, you're punning on the
season. Even if you do bring those

834
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,840
guys in, I'm not saying it
would be impossible to win. You're like

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to turn it around and win.
I'm just saying it's not as likely.

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But more than anything, I do
think that I like the direction that Ham

837
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appears to be going in terms of
holding everybody accountable and and and making it

838
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,840
an actual team. We'll just see
if it works. Jabari, this was

839
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,599
fantastic as always. I love these
yearly camp fires that you're so gracious to

840
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,280
come on and have with me.
In case anyone skip the intro where you're

841
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,920
able to tell our listeners where they
can find you and all the great work

842
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,880
that you do. Again, Dan, thanks so much. I appreciate you

843
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,480
having me, especially on the heels
of that terrible performance last year, specifically

844
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:24,480
because I every single thing that I
said was the opposite me. I'm easy,

845
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:29,679
Jabari Davis NBA. Uh. If
you like comedy, you know,

846
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,039
comedy basketball podcast Miles and Jack got
Mad Boosey's we don't take ourselves seriously.

847
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:37,079
We kind of like purposely are looking
to be, you know, make ourselves

848
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,400
look like idiots because you know,
hey, why not? And an NBA

849
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,239
finals file for anybody that likes,
you know, general conversations. Finals between

850
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,480
two guys that you know really love
the game. And those two guys are

851
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:52,199
myself, oh yeah and Robert Ory
in case you'd vissit that. Yeah,

852
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,119
so Jabari does the heavy lifting on
that podcast, is what he's saying.

853
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,960
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm
I was who I almost said a tournament

854
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:01,280
I don't you shouldn't say on the
pocket I'm the big stick on that pocket.

855
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,880
To BORI, thank you so much
as usual for coming on. I

856
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,400
look forward to uh spamming your d
ms in the future. Likewise, thank

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00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:10,880
you so much.
