1 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:17,839 Welcome to the Paranormal Project radio show. Journey with us through mystical realms to 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,120 a world of the unexplained. If you're ready, take a deep breath and 3 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:27,160 let curiosity be your guide. And now here are your hosts, spirit Medium 4 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:44,320 Scott Allen and Christina Bowen, the Green Witch of Tennessee. Hello, and 5 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:47,880 welcome back to the Paranormal Project. Thank you for watching tonight. I'm here 6 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,479 with my lovely co host, Christina Bowen, and I love your shirt. 7 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,000 By the way, it's very halloweeny, as you said, Halloween. Yeah, 8 00:00:57,119 --> 00:01:00,200 I thought i'd break out, you know, October, so I got 9 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,920 to represent there you go. You know, it's never a dull moment here 10 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,719 at the Paranormal Project. It's a surprise from one minute to the next. 11 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,519 I have to tell you that our guest Jill Shelley, who was going to 12 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,680 be here tonight, is not feeling well. She's with the boy House. 13 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,560 She has the Haunted House, and I was all excited to talk to her 14 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,920 about her home. But she is going to come back on. We're going 15 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,680 to talk to her about coming back to the show. At the beginning of 16 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:23,840 the year, believe it or not, we have guests booked up right through 17 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:27,280 the end of January. We've got so many great people coming on. But 18 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:33,760 we're going to have a different show tonight because well because we have to and 19 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,840 we have to punt, and that's how that's how it is, and that's 20 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:41,599 I'm so glad I don't do the show alone because otherwise y'all will be sitting 21 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,400 listening to me talk. See you, what are you doing to me? 22 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:49,560 I just said y'all, y'all. I don't ever say y'all. Well, 23 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:52,200 get used to it, Scott. I am in East Tennessee. You know, 24 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,359 I know you, But y'all, you have all your teeth, so 25 00:01:57,359 --> 00:02:01,879 I keep forgetting. I don't recognize that one Virginia. That's Virginia. There 26 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,400 you go, there you go for that one. You might, you might, 27 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,599 so listen. I thought it would be really interesting tonight. I have 28 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:15,520 been doing readings like like nobody's business. I don't know. Maybe it's October, 29 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:20,000 I don't know. But I'm exhausted. I've been sitting here doing readings 30 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:22,360 all day and you know, at the end of the day, my energy 31 00:02:22,479 --> 00:02:30,240 kind of wanes. Robert Marshall says, West Virginia, there you go, 32 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:36,879 not Virginia. There it is. That's true, that's even closer. Yeah. 33 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:40,520 Yeah, So I wanted to just touch base on a couple of little 34 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,560 things about mediumship and then we can move on to other things. But you 35 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:50,960 know, I spent two weeks two weeks ago, I spent a week in 36 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:58,680 New Jersey with this really intensive medium ship mentorship kickoff with with Joseph Schiel. 37 00:02:58,759 --> 00:03:01,599 He's a medium, spirit artist. The man is incredible and he's such a 38 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:08,240 nice guy, and he is pastor of the spirit Within the Journey Within Church, 39 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:15,120 which is part of the Spiritualist Union in the United Kingdom, and it's 40 00:03:15,199 --> 00:03:17,919 right in New Jersey. Anyway, we had this kickoff, and it's really 41 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,400 about the real deal. You know. It's not about the showmanship, it's 42 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:25,599 not about all of that stuff. It's about really delivering good messages. And 43 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,199 here's the thing that I think it's important to talk about with anyone who is 44 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:38,479 looking for a reading, who is seeking out a medium. You are as 45 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,919 responsible for this reading as the medium. And people say, well, what 46 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,360 do you mean, what do you mean I'm just paying the bill right, 47 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,199 I want to, I want we can't reach through the veil and pull somebody 48 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:57,560 back. You know. I always say they have to be willing. I 49 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,400 can answer the call. But I can't make the call. All I can 50 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:05,840 do is pick up the phone. You know. I like that analogy. 51 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:13,759 Yeah, you know. I always tell people that the personality of the person 52 00:04:14,199 --> 00:04:19,600 who's crossed over is really it's going to be consistent. So how they were 53 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:25,079 in life is how they're going to be after they've crossed. But you are 54 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,879 also important because it's a three way conversation. Right without you, They're not 55 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:34,120 going to talk to me. They don't know me. I'm only the telephone. 56 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:38,879 That's all it is. I'm the go between. They make the call 57 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,000 and you answer, and it just goes right through me. You know, 58 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,360 when you have a reading, if you have a headache, if I have 59 00:04:46,399 --> 00:04:50,439 a headache, if you had a disagreement with someone, or if I'm in 60 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,680 a bad mood, or if I'm tired, or if you didn't sleep last 61 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,360 night, all of these things can make a difference. The vibration needs to 62 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:04,680 be up here for this to happen. So I've had people that sit there 63 00:05:04,759 --> 00:05:09,120 at the reading and I have to say to them, I need to hear 64 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,399 your voice. I need you to say yes, no, whatever answer me 65 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:18,120 when you just sit there and go mm yes. You know. It's like 66 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:25,279 it's like if you've been to see a comedy show and it keep you the 67 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,000 best comedian in the world, right, But when he's talking on stage and 68 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:33,759 people just sit there and there's no reaction, the energy in the room tanks. 69 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:39,360 It's the same thing with mediumship. So if you're not into it, 70 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:46,199 if you're tired, you're just as responsible for that because that's going to affect 71 00:05:46,199 --> 00:05:49,399 the reading. And I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong, but it's important 72 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:55,879 to kind of have this interaction to kind of keep the elevation up and the 73 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,439 energy up so that that's what spirit feeds on. And we can't do it 74 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,519 alone as mediums. It's just it's not magic, you know what I mean. 75 00:06:03,519 --> 00:06:08,360 We're not warlocks, we're not wizards. I mean, you're a witch 76 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,519 and I'm a bitch. Other than that, you know, but seriously, 77 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,560 that's so good. Yeah, that's why we get along so good. But 78 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,680 I think that, you know, it doesn't really work that way. You 79 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,319 know, it doesn't work that we can say, don't worry about it, 80 00:06:23,319 --> 00:06:26,240 you just sit there and I'm going to do my magic act. You know, 81 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,839 it's not like that. It's not a magician. It's it's really talking 82 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:34,839 to spirit and it's that energy that goes back and forth. So you have 83 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,160 to be an active participant in it. And the reason I say that is 84 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:42,240 this has happened to me a couple of times recently where I've had to tell 85 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,079 people I really need you to talk, I really need you to say something. 86 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:48,800 I need to hear your voice because that's going to you know, if 87 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,800 you imagine the voice like a ping pong ball, it goes back and forth, 88 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:56,959 back and forth, and then the energy starts to and build and build. 89 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:03,000 But at conversation, it's a conversation. Yeah, it's a conversation. 90 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:09,720 It's a conversation. So I just I think it's important for people to understand 91 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:16,000 what's really happening when we do a mediumship reading. It's subtle. When someone 92 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:21,720 contacts you and requests a reading with you, Yep, do you pick up 93 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:29,600 anything at that point? You? Do you ever get? No? I 94 00:07:29,639 --> 00:07:31,079 was talking to a woman the other night on the phone and I did end 95 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,639 up reading her the next day. I had a spot I could stick her 96 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:39,040 in, which was a whole other weird thing to begin with. She called 97 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,519 me and said, hey, I'm in the area. I'm visiting. I 98 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,199 was hoping I could get a reading in person, and I thought, oh, 99 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,720 man, you know, I can squeeze in a thirty minute session. 100 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:50,199 I mean, that's all I had in between. I really didn't even make 101 00:07:50,279 --> 00:07:54,759 an hour. Come to find out, she wasn't here. She was in 102 00:07:54,759 --> 00:08:00,959 Sidona, Arizona, and she googled me in Sidona and found me somewhere online 103 00:08:00,959 --> 00:08:03,759 because people find me all over the place. So so we ended up doing 104 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,560 a zoom session and then I found out she actually lives, you know, 105 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,199 maybe forty minutes for me. So she's coming back this way and as if 106 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:15,279 we can do it person later. But she had left here went there and 107 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:18,920 thought I was there. I don't know, but she added me and she 108 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,000 said, can are you picking up anything around me? Is there anything that 109 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,920 I said? Oh my god, no, I said, it doesn't work 110 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:30,079 that way. I have to still myself and quiet myself, and admittedly, 111 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,080 the you know, if I've been reading all day or if i'm you know 112 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:37,320 whatever, this kind of stuff I'm preparing for shows, I'm exhausted by the 113 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:41,639 end of the day. It rains your energy, it drains my energy. 114 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:46,159 You know, my husband used to not understand that I could come home tired 115 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,120 when I had literally sat on my butt all day and you know, he'd 116 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:56,600 been climbing in out of the truck and had a couple of house called fires. 117 00:08:56,639 --> 00:09:01,360 I mean, it's just craziness. Physical exhaustion, that mental exhaustion. 118 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:07,480 People. It's it's very different, but it is. It's draining. It's 119 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,919 the energy work. It's the energy work. And I've been sitting on my 120 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,120 boat all day doing readings, and you know, we had a live show, 121 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:18,799 you know, a little bit ago with Robert Neil Marshall about the show 122 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:24,600 we're doing. So I'm not there's nothing exerting about this, but energy wise, 123 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,559 it can really really drain you. And so it's important for mediums to 124 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,279 know their limits. Number one, right, if you can't do three readings 125 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,279 in a day, don't do three readings in a day, you know. 126 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,240 I mean, it's just it's that simple. But you know, when you 127 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:46,279 have people that come in with expectations and nine percent of the readings go beautifully, 128 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:52,200 but then sometimes there's something that just goes awry and it could be the 129 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,320 it could be the medium. It does you know, and headaches happen, 130 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,600 and you know, they sit there and they think that you well, it's 131 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,240 like a show, you know, and it's not. It's a conversation. 132 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:09,879 And I think that's the piece that people miss. You know, people will 133 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:11,960 say to oh, you know, you talked to the dead. I really 134 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:18,759 don't. I talk to the living, talk to the living. They're all 135 00:10:18,799 --> 00:10:24,399 alive, they're all up there, but they just don't have mouths and lips, 136 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,240 and you know they have to. They they send me their information differently. 137 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:33,480 You know, I get it telepathically. I get thoughts, I get 138 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,519 tastes, I get smells, I get emotions. I mean there's all these 139 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,919 different senses that kind of kick in. And you know, I always say, 140 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,279 it's like a cluster bomb, right. You might get a little like 141 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,759 five millimeter piece of something like whether it's an image of someone or whatever, 142 00:10:50,799 --> 00:11:00,159 and that whole thing is like impacted with with emotion and thoughts and it's the 143 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,399 weirdest thing. But they're not going to come talk to me if you're off 144 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:09,399 or if I'm off. They're just they can't. It's not that they're not 145 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,679 taking a stand, they just they just can't. They rely on that energy 146 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,840 has to be way up here. We have to meet them. They have 147 00:11:15,879 --> 00:11:18,440 to kind of come down and we come up energy wise, and that's where 148 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,679 we meet. Oh. I like that the way you describe that, and 149 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,519 with the work I do with heal energy healings, and say, if I 150 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:33,840 have a client come to me and I do like I said, it's a 151 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:39,320 combination of reiki with just energy when I'm scanning. But the same kind of 152 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:46,320 thing applies if they're closed down. If I ask them a direct question and 153 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:50,360 they just or they don't give me any kind of feedback. I'm going with 154 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:56,240 what I'm picking up and I'm being directed, but it is a conversation. 155 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,559 So when they just lay there and there's nothing, it makes my job a 156 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:09,200 lot harder. Yeah. Yeah, And do you think that when you do 157 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:13,919 reikie work, like if you do three or four in a day, that 158 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:18,799 it becomes less Like that's how mediumship is, right. So if I can't 159 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,360 do four readings in a row, I mean I might be able to do 160 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,240 two or in the morning and you know, a few in the evening or 161 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:28,840 something, but I can't do one after another after another. Do you find 162 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:35,840 that that sucks the energy out the same way? And now that it's there's 163 00:12:35,919 --> 00:12:39,639 a couple. There's a difference with me when say, if it's like a 164 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:45,919 convention and it's many sessions, I kind of I know this sounds weird, 165 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:48,960 and you know I've told you I've been tested. I'm not crazy, but 166 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:56,120 I kind of feed off of the crowd energy and because everybody's excited to be 167 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:01,639 there and there's just all of this right hubbub and it's electric, and that 168 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,799 kind of thing ramps me up. So the many sessions that I do at 169 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,639 conventions, yes I'm still exhausted by the end of the day, but it's 170 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:16,679 like I've had a little extra backup battery feed me, and that makes it 171 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,600 different. But when I'm working just at home, I try to limit to 172 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:26,360 two to be honest, because it is so physically draining. And you know, 173 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,120 in my little studio where I do this, so I sit right here 174 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,639 and I do my readings when I'm doing by zoom, and then in the 175 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,559 other room I sit. It doesn't have the same energy as when we were 176 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:43,240 in Indiana together at the Bell Mansion. That place was hoppened. Honest to 177 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,840 god, the readings were incredible because the building had its own energy that just 178 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:54,120 kind of amplifies things, amplified it, you know, and so that also 179 00:13:54,159 --> 00:13:58,240 makes a difference. So if you come in and you're like, Okay, 180 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,320 who's here, what do you got? Yeah, what do you You know? 181 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,080 Maybe not so much and so so you know, this is not to 182 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,120 berat anybody because people don't know. And that's really why I want to talk 183 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:15,480 about this. I want people to understand that energy work is tough. I 184 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:22,600 mean, it really is so so subtle, and it's it's not like you 185 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:26,399 can practice magic trick over and over and over. I got it perfect. 186 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Now I'm gonna go and do it, and you can do it over and 187 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:31,360 over and over again. Everybody that walks in the door is different. They 188 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,519 have different loved ones, they have different energies. If they were private and 189 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:39,240 they weren't going to tell anybody anything about their life, guess what, that's 190 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:43,399 how it's going to be going to change. It's not going to change, 191 00:14:43,559 --> 00:14:48,159 you know. If they I always say Italians give the best readings because they 192 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:52,159 don't stop talking. Yeah, that's true. They just get out there, 193 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,600 you know. I mean that's a generalization, but really and true and truth 194 00:14:56,639 --> 00:15:03,480 to that. I have a girlfriend that's Sicilian you're right. You know, 195 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:05,480 I don't know what I would do if I were Italian and died and didn't 196 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,919 have my hands anymore. I don't. I don't know how they handle it 197 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:13,039 when they try to communicate, you know, I don't know how that works. 198 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:16,360 I actually I struggle with that. I have to sit on my hands 199 00:15:16,919 --> 00:15:22,120 otherwise they're all over the place all the time. Are you Are you Italian? 200 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,200 You're not Italian? Are you? No? Actually, we used to 201 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:30,519 joke and say that my girlfriend that we had to be related, just the 202 00:15:30,559 --> 00:15:35,240 craziness in the family and everything. And now I've got more Irish DNA than 203 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:41,120 anything, which that makes sense too, because you're a drunk. No, 204 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:50,000 I don't know. I don't know. On Tuesdays. On Tuesdays, hey, 205 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:54,799 we have a question. Nancy wants to know what kind of reiki did 206 00:15:54,840 --> 00:16:00,759 you do? I know there's different different types. So I'm terrible with pronouncing 207 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:07,399 this. Oh yeah, that one the U s u I like you. 208 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,120 Yeah, I don't even know how to say it. It's like you to 209 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:17,679 something, Suey. I think I'm terrible with it. But that's the form 210 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,840 that I trained under and that I used. But once again, it's just 211 00:16:21,919 --> 00:16:26,799 a piece of what I do. I did find it very very beneficial, 212 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:33,720 which with each attunement that I received as I was studying, when I worked 213 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,559 with someone, I could pick up even more. Each time it got better, 214 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:45,320 it got clearer. It it's like somebody turned the volume up. Yeah. 215 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,960 Yeah, that's all I need is a little more attunement to get myself 216 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,200 going. It was scary as l when it happened, and I didn't have 217 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:59,159 any attunements. But you know, I think I would think she does holy 218 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:02,399 fire, holy fire reiki is what she does. Yeah, you know, 219 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:04,119 Nanta, I'm not really sure of the difference is I actually need to look 220 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,039 into that and see what the differences are. Yeah, I don't know, 221 00:17:08,279 --> 00:17:14,160 actually, And I think when I did reiki one it was she says it's 222 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,480 pronounced us suey us, So you know, that's the one that I did 223 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,839 when I studied, but I never went out to two and three because I 224 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:29,240 wasn't sure. And I'm going to be honest, it was during COVID and 225 00:17:29,279 --> 00:17:30,720 it was all done remotely, and I'm not a big fan of it, 226 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:37,880 so I honestly, I know I might upset a few people, but I 227 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:45,200 don't believe that you can truly receive an attunement online. I had someone try 228 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,720 one time, and I was like, this is not gonna work. You're 229 00:17:48,759 --> 00:17:52,599 not the person because I need to be connected. Because when I've had an 230 00:17:52,759 --> 00:17:59,440 entunement in person, and your eyes are closed and you're very solemn and sitting 231 00:17:59,559 --> 00:18:02,759 so you don't see everything's going on, But brother, do you feel it? 232 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:07,720 You do, and it makes a big difference. It's well, you 233 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,519 know, I wanted to learn distance reiki. I know some people are really 234 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:18,400 fabulous at it, and I do send, but it's not my It's not 235 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,119 where my strength lies. My strength lies when I've got someone right in front 236 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:29,400 of me. That's where I'm the best, right. I never pursued it. 237 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:32,160 I kind of think about maybe I should go back at some point, 238 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,319 but I don't honestly don't know where I'm going to fit it in. I 239 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,799 have to, I really, and that's the truth. I feel like I'm 240 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,640 just you know, this is a busy calendar. What's that You've got a 241 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:48,119 really busy calendar lately? I have so much going on, nothing's going to 242 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:55,079 happen. And I was just asked today if I would do another gallery with 243 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,880 someone in Kansas city. It would be a it would be a like a 244 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,799 remote gallery, you know what I mean, like a gallery. So we're 245 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:03,680 talking about that. We haven't booked anything. We're going to talk after the 246 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,680 first of the year. And I'm doing a Valentine show now that we haven't 247 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,480 set a location or anything yet. But I'm working with another medium, a 248 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,400 different one that I've been working with. So I've got all these people coming 249 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,160 together and we're going to be doing some of these shows and I love that. 250 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:22,279 But I need to retire from my regular full time job so I can 251 00:19:22,319 --> 00:19:26,079 do this. I mean, And that's how it feels, you know. 252 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,440 Yeah, was crazy. That wouldn't be such a bad thing, would it. 253 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:37,799 Well, it would be for my creditors and hers and all this other 254 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,680 stuff. I think they prefer that I work as often as possible, but 255 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:45,640 you know, that's kind of how that works. But yeah, I mean, 256 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,200 my goal is is to be able to keep doing this. I love 257 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:55,039 doing what I do. I love and I'm starting to I'm starting to really 258 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:59,000 love doing multiple groups, not multiple groups, but groups of multiple people. 259 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:06,480 You know. It was funny because I was in Boston last week. I 260 00:20:06,519 --> 00:20:11,200 did a it was a it was a a networking event for a group of 261 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,000 people that worked at this business. And I don't know how many were their 262 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:17,599 twenty twenty five people something like that, but we had such a good time 263 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,920 and the readings were really meaningful. I mean there were tears, there were 264 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:23,319 laughs. I mean, it was just and I think that's just kind of 265 00:20:23,319 --> 00:20:26,359 where my heart is now. You know, I like doing the one on 266 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,759 ones, but I love doing these groups of people. And so, you 267 00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:34,160 know, I got a bunch of stuff booked out, which is really good. 268 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,880 I always say, when you find that niche and what brings you joy 269 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,119 and makes you happy, you need to do more of that. Agree, 270 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:48,599 So definitely do more of that. No, I agree, And so so 271 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,279 that's what I'm doing. And you know, I'm going to be reading in 272 00:20:55,319 --> 00:21:00,599 I'm going to be reading in Maine in two weeks at a convention at Parrifest 273 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,599 Maine, which I'm really excited about. I wish you could join us for 274 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,119 that. It's such a nice little para con not that little, but it's 275 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,480 really nice. And then I'm going to be coming to join you in We're 276 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:18,960 going to have to buy some boots San Antonio, Yeah, Texas. I 277 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:26,440 am so excited about live in Texas. Yeah, you're all week, right, 278 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:37,160 Scott, the Lone Star Para Con, the Lone Star Pharracon, Yeah, 279 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:41,400 Lone Star Para Con and Kling Brothers put that on everyday Paranormal. We're 280 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:48,599 bending at the convention and well we Solstice Sisters mm hmm. And then we've 281 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:56,039 got a little thing going on Sunday, so everybody that's in town and and 282 00:21:56,079 --> 00:22:02,519 I still want to hang around. We're going to be at Beauregard Mansion, 283 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:08,039 which is it's on the historic battle grounds area, real near the Alamo, 284 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:14,720 which I'm excited to experience. But it's going to be from eleven to two. 285 00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:18,599 We're doing a brunch and meet and great and the Kling Brothers are coming. 286 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,720 They are super cool to hang out with. And then afterwards, the 287 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:27,160 Solstice Sisters are going to be doing our healings and so Dana's gonna be doing 288 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,759 readings, I'll be doing scannings and and herbal consults, Kathy will be doing 289 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:38,160 reiki and shaman work, and we'll be doing some of which I'll just drop 290 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,920 it. Well, we'll talk about later when when everybody comes on our our 291 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,519 our special healing that we do all together we call it the triple Goddess. 292 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:52,799 Yeah, and then so we all work on the same person. It's it's 293 00:22:52,880 --> 00:23:02,519 so cool to connect our energies and just just can connecting with them. It 294 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:08,759 amplifies everything that I feel and experience. So I personally would love to be 295 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:14,440 the person on the table to see what that's like. Happy to be a 296 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,720 guinea pig. Yeah, are you doing an investigation or no investigation. It's 297 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,359 going to be the brunch and then the vending stuff. Or yeah, it'll 298 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,640 be a brunch and then the healing sessions afterwards. We're not doing an investigation, 299 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,200 but people are going to be free to walk around and check everything out. 300 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,359 And like I said, Klean Brother is going to do a little walk 301 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,200 through and it's a very active building. From what I understand, it is 302 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:45,720 currently an airbnb that they've actually had people get up and leave in the night 303 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:55,480 because of the activity. So we're going to spend some nights there. What's 304 00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:59,200 that We're gonna spend a couple of nights there, so we'll see what we 305 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,640 pick up an experience that should be really a good time. I feel like 306 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,599 there was a whole lot of fun. There was something I was going to 307 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,000 ask you about that. Now it's gone, because you know, I have 308 00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:14,440 a brain, like a calendar comes and goes. The heck was it? 309 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:19,160 Something about it? Something about it. It's going to be going to feature 310 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,559 my t's at the brunch, so I'm kind of excited and stoked about that. 311 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,839 Nice. And I love your tea's, you know, Black Raven Trading 312 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,799 dot com, Black Rabon Trading dot com. I love your te's by the 313 00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:36,400 way, They're really great. I think I'm gonna I'm working a few special 314 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,319 blends that I may do just for that event be nice. I like to 315 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,599 customize, how do you know, like what goes with what and how it 316 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:52,599 will years of doing it, lots of knowledge and just experience. I don't 317 00:24:53,839 --> 00:25:03,119 mix my herbs that are for magical workings with those that I blend because okay, 318 00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:08,599 not everything is meant to be ingested. I don't ever want to accidentally 319 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:14,079 have the wrong jar or anything along those lines. So I make sure that 320 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,400 everything, especially when I'm doing these and I take herbs because I do the 321 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:26,759 custom blending for people there and it's like kind of the topmost needed herbs is 322 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:32,960 what I usually travel with, and then occasionally spiritual just tell me I need 323 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,920 to grab a jar this, or I need to grab a jar that. 324 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,640 Oh, okay, throw it in. There's always that one person that needs 325 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:44,119 it. Yep, you know, the herbs and the oils, all of 326 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,079 that together. Yeah, I feel like I mean, because I feel like 327 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,680 that's you're really good at that. And the teas are great, and you 328 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,960 know I've tried them. They're they're fantastic. What is the magical side of 329 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,839 it? Like? What? Because I see you as a lot of like 330 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,920 healing and a lot of that kind of thing. But what is the magic 331 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:07,400 side? Well, part of when I blend, I mean, I have 332 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,440 to have the right energy in the house. The weather has to be right 333 00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:15,119 for me. I've got to be the right state of mind, the right 334 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:21,000 state of my heart. I have a playlist of music that I keep going 335 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:29,359 and it's blasting as I'm working, and it's just fun. If the scene 336 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:36,440 from Practical Magic Midnight Marguerite's dancing around. I do all of that in the 337 00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:41,519 kitchen. And that positive energy that I feel, and the love and the 338 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:49,039 excitement and the enthusiasm for what I'm doing. I infuse all of my workings 339 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:56,799 with that energy. I call upon the angels. I call upon God. 340 00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:04,720 I put that love into it. That's my secret ingredient love. Yeah, 341 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,000 because a lot of people think, ooh, witchcraft. Oh you know, 342 00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:18,720 it's not like that. It's not. It's not dark and heavy. Can 343 00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:23,680 it be? Yeah? Can your local church be dark and heavy? Yeah? 344 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,079 It's what you make of it. And you have to remember that the 345 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,799 witchcraft that I practice, I'm connected to the earth. I'm connected to the 346 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:40,359 energies that the elements around me. And I love it and I want to 347 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,839 protect it. But I also know that it's been gifted to us to use. 348 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,160 And each plant and all of the elements are infused with their own properties, 349 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:56,559 spiritual and physical, and I use all of them together. I can't 350 00:27:56,599 --> 00:28:02,440 think of a better use. Well, and I think it's great, you 351 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,880 know, because you mentioned God, and I know it's we're not you know. 352 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:10,279 Ah, is this right? I'm just putting that right across the bottom. 353 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,599 Let me just hide this for a second. You're saying that to the 354 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,359 blind lady. That's true, Okay. I just want to make sure I 355 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,400 get the I want to make sure it rolls across the bottom of the screen. 356 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,960 Black Raven Trading and we asked we could put your website on the box, 357 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,680 so I want to make sure we have that on the bottom case. 358 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:34,480 I'm actually updating the website this weekend. I've got a couple of things that 359 00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:40,000 are going to be new going live. If Nancy orders anything from you, 360 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,799 she needs a little extra boost, just a little something, and then she's 361 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:49,359 kind of you know, I you know, I do the consults for people 362 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:55,279 as well. But I think I've told you and you've experienced it. Okay, 363 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,759 I can't see what's the question? Oh what what is the difference between 364 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:07,000 a green witch and a white white witch. That's a good question. A 365 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:12,920 green witch is going to primarily work with herbs, spices, I think, 366 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:22,119 growing things. A white witch is going to be working with energy primarily. 367 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,039 Now does that mean they can't use tools? No, And I think more 368 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:32,440 of us practice a true eclectic style than anything. But we we have leanings 369 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,480 one way or the other. And a white witch can be a green witch, 370 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,960 a green witch can practice white magic, which that's what I do. 371 00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:48,640 I only practice now. I'm not a live love laugh wink wink, Dana. 372 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:56,359 That's a private joke with us. But I do only work with light 373 00:29:56,519 --> 00:30:00,079 energy. I'm a light worker. Yeah, yeah, I hope that answers 374 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:06,119 your question, Nancy. It says, so the greenwich seems more earthy. 375 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,240 Exactly, We're more hippie. We're the ones that are gonna take our shoes 376 00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:11,880 off. And you know, I want to run through the field. And 377 00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:18,160 I mean I literally go barefoot all the time. I like to walk in 378 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,440 the snow, even barefoot. Now I can't do it for very long, 379 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,440 of course, but I like to connect to that. I like to feel 380 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,680 the energy of it. Is there anything that happens when a green witch or 381 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:41,000 a white witch eat a sandwich? Sorry, I'm gonna kill yes, and 382 00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:48,319 this is my room and comes back you yeah right, it's like, oh 383 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:56,400 lord, yeah, you know, but I think it's fascinating and I think, 384 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,680 you know, I love that. And you know, you're not churchy. 385 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,559 I'm not real churchy either. I'm not, but we certainly have these 386 00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:10,559 beliefs and and and I feel like that's a part of what you do is 387 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:17,799 this is this, you know this this it's all about goodness. It's all 388 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:19,759 about good you know what I mean, It's all about the good of all. 389 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,279 And so for those of the people who think which bad Ooh that's it, 390 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:30,039 it's really not. It's really not. It's not. And I respect 391 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,240 everyone's right to believe what they believe. And I'm sorry, I've got a 392 00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:47,960 a love visitor. Is that your black catpropriate? How this is beings everybody? 393 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:52,119 Hey, guys, Christopher Brown. Christopher Brown is a medium from Maine. 394 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:55,920 I'm going to see him at Parapest, but he is the medium that's 395 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,480 working with me at the Salem Para Con when we do the gallery event at 396 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,599 San Uli State University. So good to see you, Chris, and looking 397 00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:06,640 forward to working with you and seeing you soon. So, Chris Brown, 398 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:12,559 everybody that you do, Scot that I actually really love about you. You 399 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:16,839 like to work with other mediums, it's not a competition for you, and 400 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:24,200 you like to promote their work as well about you that I admire you. 401 00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:30,519 I'm not jealous of any of this. I feel like there's no reason to 402 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:34,559 be jealous. I really like Chris. We are so totally opposite, polar 403 00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,319 opposite in terms of the way that we approach things. And I just love 404 00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:42,359 how, you know, the energy is just great when we're together. He's 405 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,920 just such a fun guy. Dana and I, I mean, I just 406 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,039 love Dana and we're so different, you know, when we're reading together. 407 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,000 But I love the way it works together. No, there's no I'll tell 408 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,319 you an interesting story when I was in When I was in New Jersey a 409 00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:00,799 couple of weeks ago, and I was in the class with Joshiel. We 410 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:07,119 had an exercise where they peered us up into three people. Right, one 411 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,920 person got the reading, one person started the reading, and the second one 412 00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:16,839 tuned in and tapped into the spirit and they were giving a joint reading between 413 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,240 the two of us to the one person. Now, how cool is that? 414 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:22,440 And I had never done that before, and I thought, well, 415 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,440 how the heck am I going to do that? I don't even know how 416 00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:29,319 to do that. But when the intention is there, you know, because 417 00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:31,160 it's all intention, right, the intention was there that this was going to 418 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:37,400 happen, and boom it happened. And this guy, I can't think of 419 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,680 his name, but the other medium and I were back and forth together reading 420 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,880 this woman and it was like he'd give something, I'd give something, and 421 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,680 she was like, oh yeah, yep, yep, yeah. I mean 422 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,160 it was like, oh my god, this is amazing. It's still amazing. 423 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:58,240 Well, I am still blown away by watching galleries. I mad respect 424 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,000 for anybody that can do it. I don't understand how y'all have that ability. 425 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,400 I just like to watch it, especially when it gets rapid fire. 426 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,800 It's it's insane. I don't understand the things experience. That's why, you 427 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,480 know, we talk about that thing called what do you call it? You're 428 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,639 always saying, like, when you don't feel like it's real, what is 429 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:22,840 the name of that? Oh, imposter syndrome syndrome? Yeah, you know, 430 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:28,199 that's that's a real thing, because sometimes it's so hard to believe that, 431 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,239 you can't believe you're doing it, and it's like there has to be 432 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,199 some other exploitation, like how is this happening? How is how am I 433 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,360 rattling off all these things? And she's like, oh, yeah, I 434 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,000 totally get it everything you just said, I totally get it. Like really, 435 00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:45,280 I mean, you get used to that after a while, you know, 436 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:51,760 the impostor syndrome sets in. I think any of us that because I 437 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,679 even deal with that, Scott, and I'm not doing any kind of mediumship 438 00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:07,400 work, right, how does manifest for you when, especially if someone is 439 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:14,360 presenting to me and they have all these multiple issues and I get super overwhelmed 440 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,719 and I'm like, what am I doing. I've got no business doing this. 441 00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:22,960 I just need to make some tease and just go on with life. 442 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,719 But then when they come back to me, well, personal favorite is when 443 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,480 they just break down and start crying on the table and they have these emotional 444 00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:37,119 releases, and I love that that's part of the healing and the things that 445 00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:42,039 I'll pick up on. And they may not communicate with me on the table. 446 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,159 They wait until at the end and then tell me or they'll tell me 447 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:51,159 later on. You know the blend that you made for me, Keep that 448 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,599 recipe on file. It did the trick and they come back again and again 449 00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:00,559 and again, and that makes me feel so good that the validation that you 450 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:07,599 actually did help somebody. Listen, I'm going to tell you. I'm sorry. 451 00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:12,480 Yeah, I just wanted to. I just wanted to validate that because 452 00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:16,199 I had this I don't know what it was. It was like cough. 453 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:23,559 I couldn't stop coughing. I had chest X race. Everything's clear. I 454 00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:28,519 did COVID test after COVID test after COVID test. It was nothing. And 455 00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:30,679 finally is that when we must have been when we were in Indiana and I 456 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:37,199 said, I think it was it. Yeah, it was Indiana or I 457 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,320 actually don't know where it was, to be honest with you, it was 458 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,679 one of the places I saw you. But it doesn't matter. I Ohio 459 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,880 was it could have been Ohio and and I was like, I can't stand 460 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,599 this, Like I just I don't know what it is. I've tried antibiotics 461 00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:54,280 and z pas and I mean just nothing would go away. I took home 462 00:36:54,320 --> 00:37:00,119 a couple of your tea's and a tincture to tinctures I think, and the 463 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:06,679 respiratory therapy or the yeah, the respiratory one. Long after that it was 464 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,159 gone. And especially the mint tea was my fan. I mean, I 465 00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:14,840 love the flavor of the orange, but the mint tea was so relaxing at 466 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,280 night. I think it just kind of like kind of puts you, lulls 467 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:22,360 you into this sense. And that's that's the blended purpose of that is a 468 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:28,320 relaxation. But I can take those base notes and then add two. It's 469 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,840 like, correct me if I'm wrong. I believe I added mullin to your 470 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:40,320 blend maybe, which that helps clear the lungs. I believe it or not, 471 00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:47,559 smoking it is the most effective way. That's that's how my great grandmother 472 00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:50,920 did it. You know, you rolled it up and they smoked it and 473 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,719 it would clear up that golf. But I'm so glad that it worked for 474 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,920 you. It did, and you know so honestly when it comes to this, 475 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,679 I mean, if anybody's looking, don't be bashful. It's not. 476 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,360 It's not you know, old wide stuff. I mean, this stuff is 477 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,920 is. You know, it really works. I mean it's good stuff, 478 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,880 and it tastes good. I mean really, it was delicious, absolutely delicious. 479 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,599 I love the orange spice. Thank you. I've got a good putting 480 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:22,239 together, I just haven't gotten it out to you yet. Well, I'll 481 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,639 be seeing you in January. Don't rush. No, I don't think I'm 482 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,679 going to see you before then, though, I don't think we've got anything 483 00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:31,159 planned before then, but we'll see you, Jamie. We've got a lot 484 00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:35,280 of stuff going on in the works though, Yeah we do, and we 485 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,599 may even be and no details because I don't really have a lot of details, 486 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:42,719 but we're talking about doing a live investigation together on the show. I 487 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,920 talked with our producer at kg R and he said, yeah, let me 488 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,320 know, keep me informed, let me know the date. Lawrence Milano was 489 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,840 on our show last year, and he is he's got the channel Mondo Mondo 490 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,760 Docs m O n d O Docs. I don't even know what that stands 491 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,360 for, I to remember, but that's his thing. Is he does these 492 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,599 investigations and films and and we're going to do a live with him and his 493 00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:09,519 team, and it's going to be broadcast right here on kg R A and 494 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:15,159 kind of excited fun, you know, so you ask about how Apollo works. 495 00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:19,039 That'll be cool. They'll actually get to see it, yeah, because 496 00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:23,159 they'll get to watch him, you know. Protect it's so funny to see 497 00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:30,159 how he just stops and then you know it's like he senses it. I'm 498 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,840 not going in there, you know he does well. Yeah, because we 499 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,199 have, we've investigated together. See, you've gotten to see how it is. 500 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,360 I do like your style, your investigation style. And you're so even 501 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,679 keeled. You don't get crazy up, you don't get down, You're just 502 00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:53,760 so smooth going the whole time. Well, I'm not saying I don't get 503 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,119 creeped out. I mean that was that was that was a creepy place we 504 00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:01,199 were in the asylum. What was the name of it, don't Yeah, 505 00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:04,639 you know it's creepy place. I mean, there's no question about it. 506 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,280 Especially that basement is kind of like wild and the attic is kind of creepy 507 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:14,440 too, to be honest too. But but you know, I'm okay when 508 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,199 I'm with other people and I you know, the end, it just keeps 509 00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:22,280 everything kind of even for me. I don't type things up by because I 510 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,199 feel things, you know what I mean. So if I'm not really feeling 511 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,559 tons of crazy stuff, I don't get worked up over it. Really, 512 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,360 you know, I just enjoy it. I just enjoy seeing what's out there 513 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,400 and and it's validation for what I do. Yeah, Like I talked to 514 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,320 them, but here they are on a recorder. I mean, holy Christmas. 515 00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:45,280 You know, as an investigator, I know you get questions, and 516 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:51,440 as a medium even more so. I've had people that have known me for 517 00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:55,960 years and years and years, and you know, known me in my daytime 518 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:05,000 life so to speak, you know, and then they find out carrying a 519 00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:08,400 broom it means you're, well, you know, I came out of the 520 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,280 broom closet. A lot of people were surprised, but no, I know, 521 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,280 I know you tried to drive the cleaner, but the plug kept pulling 522 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:24,480 out of the wall. But you know, they start asking questions and they'll 523 00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:31,000 say, do you really believe in this stuff? And oh yeah, I've 524 00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:38,199 had way too many experiences personal, public, private to say it's not real. 525 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,400 Do I understand it all? Not even a little bit. I don't 526 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,440 pretend to. But you have to keep an open mind going into this field. 527 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,079 And it's a lot we don't get. I mean, you know there's 528 00:41:54,119 --> 00:42:06,760 a lot. What's your take on the words paranormal expert. I never really 529 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,320 thought about it, but you know, my first gut feeling is who is 530 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:15,440 I mean, that's my feeling is you know there are people who are maybe 531 00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:22,079 more knowledgeable in this terminology and the equipment and all this other stuff. Yeah, 532 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,960 but none of us know. I mean we do this. I do 533 00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:29,239 mediumship, and I don't know. I don't. People will say, well, 534 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,039 where are they? I have no idea because they don't show me that 535 00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:38,079 I don't know how I do what I do. And it's it's I think 536 00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:42,400 we all have our own journey to take, so it's you know, we'll 537 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,719 find out when we get there ourselves. But same thing with the paranormal stuff. 538 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,800 I don't know why they come through the way I have theories on some 539 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:58,000 things, but none of it's fact. And it's the actual main paranormal investigator. 540 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:06,440 I mean it's it's research, constantly researching. I personally like old school 541 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:12,360 techniques. Remember do you remember powder traps? What is it powder traps? 542 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,880 Well flower or baby powder? I mean I haven't used it. I've never 543 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:25,239 done that. It's seeing handprints or footprints just appear out of nowhere and stuff 544 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:31,239 like that. I still get a tangle and a thrill. And yes, 545 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,239 I am of the school that you know, you got an intelligent response. 546 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:42,119 You you got the the knocking in response to what you asked them to do. 547 00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:44,880 I get excited and then what do I do? Can you do it 548 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:50,239 again? Do it again? That prove it? And when you get that 549 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,480 communication going, it's it's amazing. There's what we feeling like it in the 550 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,840 world. There really isn't and you get it and you want just a little 551 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:04,000 Okay, we got you to tell us something, you know, but that's 552 00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,719 not enough. Tell us some more, tell us some more. You know, 553 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,320 what else can you share with us? It's like the EVPs and it's 554 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:15,800 it's but how does it happen? And you know when I was at Madison 555 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,320 Seminary and we got that. It felt like a It felt really like a 556 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,440 like a like a tape, you know. I was listening to We Have 557 00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:27,519 It. I'll play for you sometime. You can hear people in the background 558 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:31,239 chatting as if they're in the asylum, and somebody saying, okay, Fred, 559 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,679 go make your bed all right, And I got lots of mouths to 560 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,440 feed here. It's like you're talking, I mean, and they're just talking 561 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:44,159 as if they're just existing, like we're existing, but they're not there. 562 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,519 Now, how does that energy just keep going around and around? I don't 563 00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:52,000 know. I don't feel like they were interacting with us. I don't feel 564 00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:54,400 like it was intelligent in that way. But but man, it's it's like 565 00:44:54,519 --> 00:45:00,960 it's unbelievable bumps thinking about it. It's just unbelievable how that happens. And 566 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,000 then sometimes it's intelligent. Madison Seminary, I mean, you and I have 567 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:07,280 got to go there and that that would be a place I'd love to go 568 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,639 and do a live stream. Holy Christmas, it's unbelievable. We were in 569 00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:16,159 this room, there's a dining room, and we asked, spirit, are 570 00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:20,719 you a are you a? It was back from the Civil War time. 571 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:25,840 It was are you a Confederate or a Union soldier? And the voice came 572 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:32,559 back and said a Confederate. Now, come on, you know what I 573 00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:37,920 mean. That's not an accident, you know, no a question. It's 574 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:45,239 like, wow, I get so excited when you get that kind of communication 575 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:51,440 going. And it's not just you know yes no. I like dowsing rods, 576 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:57,599 and I get good connections and responses to dowsing rods, but I like 577 00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:04,039 it when spirit boxes go off and it's validating what I'm picking up on dowsing 578 00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:09,039 rods and a medium maybe picking up Apollo's hitting. It's all that cross validation 579 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,920 that I absolutely love. I think you and I should do a show together 580 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,199 because I love this chat back and forth as banter. You know, it's 581 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,679 nice when we have guests, but it's also nice when we can just sit 582 00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:23,440 and talk because I don't know how to shut up. People will probably that's 583 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:29,760 why we're always on the phone for an hour. Fuck, don't name me, 584 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:31,400 but you know, I would love to do a show on evidence when 585 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,280 we bring evidence on whether it's audio or visual or whatever. If we've got 586 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,000 photos, we've got all kinds of things. I think that'd be a fun 587 00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:43,480 show. I've got some cool pieces. I think that would be really fun 588 00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:47,159 to do, and and you know, we can put it right up on 589 00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:53,440 the screen. I think it'd be great. I think some really cool video 590 00:46:53,519 --> 00:47:00,440 and audio as well. Some that was even caught on a Facebook Live and 591 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,599 there may have been twenty people in the room, so the whole internet got 592 00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:09,679 to see it happen. That's just awesome too. How you'll like, I've 593 00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:14,599 had it where I'm recording trying to get an EVP as an example, on 594 00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:17,280 or I've got a spirit box going and I'm recording the spirit box. Then 595 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,519 I have a video camera and I'm recording the session, and it only picks 596 00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,760 up on the video camera, won't pick out, didn't pick up the on 597 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:34,679 the on the audio recorder. How is that? Once again, research we 598 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,119 don't understand, We don't know. I have my own theories and beliefs. 599 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:45,760 I believe it's all energy and that's how they're able to manipulate energetic devices. 600 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,000 But once again, it's just a theory. So how do you think mediumship 601 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:58,400 on a paranormal investigation? I think it's actually vital. I have every team 602 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:04,960 I've been involved with except one many years ago had a medium on the team. 603 00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:10,960 And does it make the big public ones like a Randolph County or something 604 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,320 like that more fun and interesting? Of course it does. On residential cases, 605 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,280 it can be so vital. Not only do they have the ability to 606 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:31,519 communicate and find out if that is Uncle Joe. Yeah, but they're going 607 00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:35,400 to pick up usually, it's been my experience, they're going to pick up 608 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,159 things that are going on with the family or the residents of the home as 609 00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:43,440 well that a lot of times can explain either a piece of it or help 610 00:48:43,519 --> 00:48:46,440 us understand or even help poise in the right direction down how to help this 611 00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:53,119 family. So yeah, I think it's a valuable tool. I think some 612 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:58,960 people feel that way and other people feel as though it has no place, 613 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,039 And you know, that's just an opinion. You know, It's funny because 614 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,920 you know, I was I didn't did an event last fall with Jason Hawes, 615 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,559 and heck of a nice guy and you know his kids, and yeah, 616 00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:15,760 he's great, he's great. But we were we were standing there together 617 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,800 and I was, I was at breakfast downstairs and we were staying in the 618 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,760 same hotel, and he came down and we could talking, and he says, 619 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,760 you know, I really don't buy the whole mediumship thing, like, 620 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,679 well, okay, then that's great, good luck to you, you know, 621 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,480 but that's the mindset, and you know, no harm, no foul. 622 00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,119 I think it's great. You know, that's just his thing. He's 623 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,679 very factual in terms of what he gets, you know, totally get it. 624 00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:44,480 There's a lot of people out there like that. You know. That's 625 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:51,320 the school of thought in the theory that I had beginning this way way way 626 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,119 way back. I always go in and immediately looking for every possible way to 627 00:49:55,239 --> 00:50:04,760 debunk what's going on. And but the introduction of investigating with a medium was 628 00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:09,400 just a game changer. Yeah, complete game changer. You know. It's 629 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,360 like you've been driving a pento and it may be great for those of you 630 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,800 who know what a pento is, and then suddenly you get the keys to 631 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,360 a Ferrari. Wow, things are completely different straight out of the gate, 632 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,280 and you're going to get there a whole lot faster too, all right. 633 00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:32,000 So I just have to say, we are just about at the end of 634 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,559 our time. Can you believe this? Oh my god, we just do 635 00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:38,920 that. So I want to say a couple of things because I'm loving talking 636 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,880 with you and I'm going to tell you to hang on afterwards so we can 637 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,719 continue our conversation. But I am going to be on andrea Parents show, 638 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:52,239 a World Awakening Friday night at ten pm for whoever is looking for a good 639 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,000 time. I'm going to be there with my friend Robert Neil Marshall. We 640 00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:57,760 just did a live together. Robert and I are going to be on stage. 641 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,679 It is not a gallery. It is a piece of theater all about 642 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,559 near death experiences, past lives, the opening to mediumship, ghosts, you 643 00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:09,679 name it. But it's all live on stage and it's an interactive play with 644 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,480 the audience. We break that fourth wall and talk. So we're going on 645 00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:17,400 Andrea's show and we're gonna be talking about that Friday night. That's right here 646 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,280 on KGRA and wherever you stream this you'll probably be able to find it on 647 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,079 there as well, So look out for that Friday night at ten pm. 648 00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:34,119 Also, we are providence of the Hardest Name of the show and that is 649 00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:37,559 going to be November two at seven pm at the Alley Theater in Middleborough. 650 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,519 Robert Neil Marshall is a playwright. He's written shows that have opened in London 651 00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:46,440 and Broadway. He's been on the House of Cards. The guy's the real 652 00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:53,760 deal and he's not some local yokl he's the fact that he's working with me 653 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,960 is like, you've got to be kidding me. I feel like slap myself, 654 00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:00,039 see if it's real. But I think that's going to be a really 655 00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:05,960 great show. And is there anything you want to share that's coming up next 656 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,840 week? We're going to have to both bruth Is Booth brothers. I don't 657 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,760 know if they're all going to be here, Bruth but been doing research, 658 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:20,079 that's what it's called watching their movies, right, Yeah, I've been. 659 00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:23,679 I have been rewatching even some of them. I'm super excited that they're coming 660 00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:28,199 on the show. And then of course I mentioned Solstice Sisters are going to 661 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:35,719 be in a Texas in January. I don't know, Oh, they're coming 662 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,360 on. They're coming on soon, like the end of October, November something 663 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,679 like that. So we'll get the dates back out there. We'll be talking 664 00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:45,800 all about that thing that you guys do, the Triple Goddess Goddess And I 665 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,280 got to tell you when we're in Texas together, I want to take you 666 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,639 out to a bar, because I want to what happens when you bring a 667 00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:55,679 medium, a witch, and a healer walk into a bar. I want 668 00:52:55,679 --> 00:53:00,679 to see what happens when you do that. Yeah, that's which you are 669 00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:06,400 a medium and with the healer and like three of the best people I know. 670 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,800 I just love you guys. Honestly, it's going to be It's going 671 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,119 to be such a great time. I can't wait. You know, that 672 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,840 is going to be a lot of fun saying it. So when you said 673 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:21,519 it, I was like, well, yeah, yeah, I got rid 674 00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:22,719 of my cowboy boots, so I'll have to get another pair when I get 675 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:27,440 out there. Oh, new shoes, and of course a hat. I 676 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,480 mean, you can't go to Texas without a hat. I'm gonna get my 677 00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:34,719 painted jeans, ten gallon hat and a pair of cowboy boots and I'll be 678 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:42,960 all set there you go. So I just everyone for tuning in and being 679 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,440 here with us today. We've had a nice little group and I'm just so 680 00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:47,920 happy to be part of this and happy to have you here. It is 681 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,480 such a joy to do this show with you, and we will be back 682 00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:57,880 next week with the Booth Brothers are the masters of the of just horror. 683 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,760 You know, as we said, Grim Fairy scared everybody else, they scared 684 00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:06,880 all of us. Thank you for being here tonight. We'll see you next 685 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:21,400 week right here in the Paranormal Project. Good night, everybody. Thanks Christina. 686 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,559 You've been listening to The Paranormal Project radio show with Scott Allen and Christina 687 00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:30,360 Bowen. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss the next episode. While 688 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,840 you're there, leave us a rating and review. We'll be back next week 689 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,239 with more exciting guests. Now, go out there and explore the Paranormal