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We're feeling good. Weekend is upon
us Father's Day this weekend? Are you

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kid me me? That's right?
That's snuck up. Happy early Father's Day.

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Thank you. It's still the dad
of dad. It's still relative.

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So I'm gonna ask dads to chime
in here, and you guys can call

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in at some point or text in
whatever you want to do. And I

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don't want to make it dominate the
show. But if we do make it

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dominate the show, who cares.
It's a Friday. We're feeling good,

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it is Father's Day, and i'd
say a good chunk infect the majority.

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It's not, you know, I
would hope. I like to think we

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have female listeners, which I know
that we do, but I don't know,

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you know, I don't know how
you know what our percentages are male,

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female and whatever you want to identify
as. But regardless if you're a

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dad or not, you probably have
a dad or had a dad if he

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hasn't passed away, so like you
probably have a father figure. So if

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we want to make this a Father's
Day Friday, we can certainly do it.

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But my daughter's eight, my son
is just turned four, and Father's

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Day is a holiday. That really
sneaks up on me because it's just like

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I mean, and when I think
of Father's Day, I still at times

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don't even really think of like the
fact that I'm a father. I think

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of my dad, my stepfather,
and you know, I unfortunately don't have

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any grandparents left. But nonetheless,
like it's kind of like a sneaky surprise

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type of holiday because Sunday, you
know, I'm gonna probably do a lot

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of the same things I typically do
on a Sunday, but you know,

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you know it's my day right with
my kids, and their mother is going

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to remind them, you know,
to really really love on Dad because it's

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Father's Day. So I'm curious when
you get older does that change, right,

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Cause, like my kids aren't at
the age where they're going to go

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buy me gifts. You know,
they don't have money their young children,

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and they don't have a calendar to
where they know Father's Days coming up.

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I better go make plans for Dad. But my wife does a good job.

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So I'm just curious, like when
you get older, And I guess

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my dad could answer this. You
know's he's my father and we celebrated Father's

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Day every year. Is he thinking
like, hmm, I wonder what Nick

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and his sister Emily are gonna get
me for Father's Day, you know,

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because we've got we've got you know, we've got plans. But it's like

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a selfless holiday, right, like
I never think, you know, I

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don't. I don't. I didn't
become a father so I could have this

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day to celebrate, right, Yeah, but you know, it's it's it's

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a lot of fun. It's busy, but it's it's a lot of fun.

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So yeah, it's a Father's Day
Friday. Here Coffee and Company,

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Philbeth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. My name is Nick Coffee. The

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company man, mister John Alden is
still on vacation, which means we've got

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Austin Montgomery once again. It's right
back in the saddle for having been a

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great week and we didn't have any
real issue and I'm not even chalking the

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start of the show up as an
issue. It's just the the button bar

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disappeared, which you didn't say it, I'll say it. That means somebody

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was in there messing with stuff like
that's how that happens. Yeah, something

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that I'm not used to and usually
I'm I got in here a little bit

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early, and usually the same kind
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we got we got to talking,
and you know, just a couple

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of guys like us ramble and you
know, and now has gone by so

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and before you know it, I'm
like, oh, I don't even have

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show open. But don't say a
word. If in fact the last person

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that logged into that computer is who
I think it is, that's all I

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needed enough. Yep. So the
reason I ask that is because if this

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type of situation were to happen with
that person, it would have been called

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nine one one. I mean,
it would have been crazy. So anyways,

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we're ready to rock and roll again. It's a Friday. We've got

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a couple of guests can and join
us coming up at four o'clock. We're

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going to talk to the one,
the only, mister Jeff Greer, which

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I got to figure out, how
are we going to like, how am

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I going to introduce Jeff Greer?
Because I think still most people know Jeff

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around here because he was somebody covering
Louisville basketball for a long time during some

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of the better years the program has
had. And I still I mean,

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it's impossible for me to bring Jeff
on and not talk hoops with him because

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that's you know, he's a hoophead
like myself. But he now works for

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the brass at Soccer Holdings, which
of course is the ownership group of Racing

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Louisville in Louisville City FC. And
we we had Jeff on for a little

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while there and then I went on
vacation and we kind of got off track.

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But we're bringing him on at four
o'clock because there's a big game tomorrow

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with Racing Louisville taking on a team
that isn't real. So I don't know

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if you if you're familiar with with
with the the in again, I'm doing

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a disservice to our partners here by
not remembering the name of the league they

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play them, but I know that
it is the National Women's Soccer League.

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I think it is the n w
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it's it's truly the only major pro
sports franchise we have here in Louisville,

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right, Racing Louisville right because lu
CITYFC. They're kicking ass once again,

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that's what they do, but they're
in that lower level like right below MLS.

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So this is the you know,
the women's version of the MLS,

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and we've got some momentum for racing
lou And they play a team tomorrow that

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is really good. I think they're
actually the defending champs. Yeah, they're

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the ragining champs. The game is
going to be on national TV. It

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isn't noon tomorrow, and you're going
to hear it tomorrow on our sister station

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right here, ten eighty. If
you want to listen on the radio,

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i'd encourage you to go out because
they're taking on yeah, the NWSL champions.

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Gotham FC. Oh, Gotham's not
a real city. No, it's

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not. I mean, like people
know that such a cool name though,

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yeah, but it's not real,
Like it's fraud, Like you know,

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you can call yourself Gotham, but
like that's Batman man, like, yeah,

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it's not. It's not the same
thing. So, like, I

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mean, I want to go to
in New York. Yeah, they are

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New York, New Jersey there,
but they call them Gotham Gotham FC.

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But it's still like Gotham's not real. Okay, yeah, can you even

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do that? I mean they're doing
it, but I want to go to

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the game tomorrow at noon and just
yell at those fans and let them know

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they're frauds, because again, it's
not a real like. That's not a

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like. Gotham's not a real place. That's like if we did Derby City

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Racing or if we were Derby City
Racing FC or Derby City. But no,

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no, no, Derby City is
actually better because Derby City is not

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claiming that it's an act like Gotham's
from Batman. Let's be real here,

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I mean, did it come from
anything else? I no, I only

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know of Gotham from Batman. I
know, and that's the city that you

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know Batman, you know, the
whole series, movies, all that took

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place. Unless I'm forgetting something.
But again, they can they can have

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their championship from last year, which
they do, and they can have fun

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with it. But to me,
it doesn't count because it's not real.

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Gotham's not real kind of like.
And this actually reminds me of this.

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I sent this to Jeff gre earlier, Like, Western Kentucky. Do you

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realize this austin Western Kentucky. Wk
U is not in Western Kentucky. No,

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it's in south central south Central,
which took me back to this vibe

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check where I you know, I
had to. I had to call them

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out, what's your connection in Western
you from out there? I'm from Boreenya.

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Does it bother you that Western Kentucky
University is actually not in Western Kentucky.

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It's more in central Kentucky. It
is south central Kentucky, but not

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Western. No, So it's like
fraudulent school. I mean, you've got

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to call people out for their nonsense. And that's what's happening tomorrow with Gotham

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because they're coming to town. They're
they're reigning champs. It's gonna be on

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national TV. But they're gonna get
a beat down. They don't know what's

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coming for them tomorrow when Racing Louisville
gets a hold of them. So again,

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we'll talk to Jeff coming up here
at four o'clock and I got a

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few different things I wanted it to
start with. But before we do that,

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I do want to remind you we
are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports

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Talk seven ninety and if you have
not signed up to become a member of

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the Thornton's Freshman Awards program, you
should because you're gonna save money at the

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gas pump, you could take advantage
of all the perks that come with it.

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And we certainly appreciate our friends over
there at Thornton. So I'm not

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sure if anybody really cares about the
portal when it doesn't relate to their team.

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And I get it if you're somebody
that really is only interested in the

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portal, if it's players you're losing
to the portal, or if it is

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players that your team is pursuing in
the portal. And you know, I'm

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kind of in the same boat,
however, as somebody who loves college basketball,

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and I try to keep up with
you know, where the big names

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end up that kind of stuff,
because we're now at a point where when

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you are looking at off season projections, these off season rankings that we've referenced,

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it used to just be who you
brought back on your own team,

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and I guess who you brought in
from the freshman class, right, I

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mean, Kentucky would have a down
year, right, they'd underachieve under Caliperi.

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Not often, Let's be real,
they were pretty good. But me

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let me give you an example in
twenty thirteen when louisll win the National Championship.

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Kentucky that year had a really rough
year. They didn't make the tournament,

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they lost to Robert Morrison the NIIT, and then the next year they

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ended up being preseason I think like
number one or number two because they once

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again brought in a loaded freshman class. So now when we look at teams

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heading into the upcoming season, I
feel like the majority of what you're factoring

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in as far as rankings and predictions
expectations, it's based off of what you

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do in the portal. So because
of that, I still follow along with,

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you know, the top names that
are in the portal, regardless of

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where they're going, because where they
end up it could be a big deal.

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So Coleman Hawkins a name we talked
about for quite a bit, I

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think it was a week ago.
Today we found out that he is in

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fact not going to visit Louisville.
And you know, I took some backlash

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from you know, the toxic world
that is Twitter for stating that Louisville is

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the one who backed off here.
They decided to say, you know,

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respectfully, I'm sure thanks, but
no thanks. We've decided to kind of

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stay put where we are and I
have no clue that's a good decision or

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a bad decision, right, like
maybe Coleman Hawkins, who by the way,

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has now committed to Kansas State.
Maybe it turns out to where you

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think, like, damn the guys
that we decided to prioritize and not bring

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in Coleman Hawkins, that was a
bad idea. No clue. We'll have

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to wait and see if that all
plays out. But for better or for

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worse, I can tell you the
reason he didn't visit Louisville is because Louisville

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decided no longer to recruit him.
And it could have been money, it

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could have been And in fact,
I know you know what I was told,

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which I believe, is that they
really like the chemistry they have as

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of now. And I don't mean
because they've played together for years, clearly

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it's a brand new team. But
what I mean is that they knew by

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bringing Colemanhawkins, it was going to
leave one, maybe two players in a

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position to where they'd have to consider
do I want to bail? Because you

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know, I don't have a lot
of time left. I don't have you

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know, I got one year,
maybe and I know now with them bringing

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this guy in, I'm either going
to be sharing minutes or I'm going to

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be on the bench. And some
would say, well, that's lame.

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You should want to compete. Totally
get it, but these you know,

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these kids got to do it's best
for themselves. So I believe, just

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my opinion, the root of Louisville
not wanting to bring in Colemanhawkins for a

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visit is because they did not want
to lose anybody on this team, and

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by doing that bringing in Hawkins,
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I think they would have lost one, they might have lost two.

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So I'm not saying it's the right
decision, wrong decision, or whatever.

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But Coleman Hawkins good player. Now
going to Kansas State, and the reports

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are this, and I I don't
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see that's attached to these players,
and it's just because I think it's exaggerated.

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It makes the school look good that
they have resources that can pay you,

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and it makes the player look good
because hey, that means that by

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definition, if somebody's paying you north
of two million, which is what the

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report is for Colemenhawkins. Then that's
what you're worth. So it's a mutually

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beneficial situation because it means you can
pay if you're the school. And again,

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the player looks good because he's worth
that. So what I've seen today

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is a little bit of a surprise
for me. And that's the reaction here.

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And it's not because people are,
you know, saying that Kansas State's

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going to be the favorite in the
Big Twelve. It's not that people are

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claiming that they're about to win the
national championship. But I feel like Kansas

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State is kind of getting mocked for
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for their starting lineup, essentially from
the portal. And I'm gonna try to

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get the you know. And again, even if we had a breakdown from

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somebody that showed what every player that
Kansas State bought was making, I'm not

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sure if I'd believe it, because
again, I think all these numbers are

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extremely exaggerated. But from our own
Kevin Sweeney, I can say our own

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because he's been with us for just
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college basketball. Here's what he reported
earlier. Kansas State has pushed the chips

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in with one of the most aggressive, nil driven rosters Bill built the spring,

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capped by winning Coleman Hawkins in the
sweepstakes, a deal that is north

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of two million dollars. So this
is what's out there. The Wildcats meaning

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Kansas State, welcomed in yugana On
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kid from Samford who I really really
liked, and I'm glad Louis Will ended

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up with Casein Pryor. But they've
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these guys, and again one of
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which again, if you're paying north
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money must just be unlimited or or
it's all a lie and nobody's paying

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that. But anyways, the belief
and I say belief because I think these

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guys that cover college basketball, like
Kevin Sweeney, like Joe Tipton, like

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Rob Dowster, and I don't see
the you know, the the top tier

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of college basketball's coverage, right,
that's Goodman, that's I would say Dowster,

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that's Rostein. Who I'm missing Austin
who who do you feel like is

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in the is in the is in
the you know, the top end of

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college basketball reporting, Rostein Goodman.
I mean, do we throw Andy Katz

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in there? Maybe? Yeah,
what I was about to say, what's

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Andy Katz been up to? I
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Trilly is Is is the guy that's
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it just still doesn't feel natural to
like cite him. He just came out.

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Yeah, Like, imagine Sports Center
crediting a report to Trilli Donovan.

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They wouldn't do it. Yeah,
So I can't even think of who like

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ESPN's lead guy is. It's Jeff
Bordello. It's Jeff Worzello. And I

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like Jeff, but he's just not
as big of a name. So,

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like, those are the guys that
I don't see putting numbers next to players'

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names, because I don't even think
they believe what they're told. But still,

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like we live in this world where
apparently four million dollars was paid for

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those three players, a guy from
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like I mean he I mean,
could you call him? Could you call

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him a serviceable? I mean,
you know, you just happen to play

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in a big time program team that
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in on him, but they weren't
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and they decided to go in a
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he was asking. And that's when
they took Big Frank from Georgia Frank anselom

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Ivy. But I mean Ugo three
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a game last year and he played
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Like, if you play half the
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you've got some real balls on you
to ask for a million dollars to

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transfer and play somewhere. And apparently
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that Kansas State was willing to pay
it. But the reason I'll bring all

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this up it's not jealousy, because
again, you know, I don't even

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think that, like, I mean, they let Arthur Columba walk, who's

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transferring from Kansas State. I think
he's better than everybody they just brought in.

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I think Arthur Klum is a better
player than Colmon Hawkins. Both are

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good. But my point is this, there's now been some real like shade

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thrown at Kansas State from not only
fans, but like Kevin Sweeney, who

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I should you know. I don't
know if he's throwing shade, but this

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is the first time I've really seen
the nil money that is believed to be

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spent on a team turn into pressure
in regards to expectations, right like they're

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some and I don't, I don't. I wish I could give you specific

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names, and I don't want to
put words in anybody's mouth, but it

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just seems as if the vibe as
well. Damn, Kansas State paid this

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much money for these guys. That's
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Like is that what college sports is
going to turn into? To where you

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hear number, you believe it if
it's true or not, and you're not

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just thinking, Hey, we better
win because our coach is on the hot

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seat, we better win. We
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Is it going to also turn into
we better win because a lot of

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money was paid for these guys?
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that, as we speak now,
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not money from fans. I mean, I guess it can be like it's

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money from like a rich donor,
and I guess if your collective is really

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able to raise a ton of money, like the five of two circle has

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done a great job at that,
but you don't know what your money's going

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towards, right, Like if you're
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to the nil circle, to the
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which is the Lowsll's nil collective,
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I mean, I'm sure they're sharing
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doing to help out teams, but
like it's really just a big sham to

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be honest with you. So I
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I kind of hope that we do
end up at some point knowing, and

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we're not entitle to know because it's
private matter. Like I don't I wouldn't

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want my financial situation being public for
a variety of reasons. But if we

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do ever get full transparency as far
as okay, now that the schools are

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going to be paying these guys,
and they're going to pay them twenty to

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twenty two million a year, and
by the way, that That's another question

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that I'll have to wait and see
if we get the real answer, if

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there's transparency there. But twenty two
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a school can pay an entire athletic
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Are we going to get full transparency
as far as what the percentages are as

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far as eighty percents go into football
and then the rest let everybody everything.

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I mean, again, those are
questions that we don't know the answer to

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just yet. But I kind of
like the thought of knowing that school.

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You know, basketball programs, football
programs are also going to be evaluated on

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not just winning and losing, but
like did you overpay? Did you get

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a return on your investment? I
just think it adds a different element to

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how we how we talk and cover
college sports. Like, for example,

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I have no clue if it's true
or not. I have no reason to

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think it's a lie. But Texas
A and M during the Jimbo Fisher era,

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you heard the noise Austin, they
had the bag. They were going

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to be willing to pay anything and
everything, and they'll pay whatever it takes

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Texas money. Yeah, they and
they stunk like they weren't good, and

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that's why Jimbo got fired. But
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that they were building rosters with unlimited
money, would there would there have been

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as much pressure to get rid of
him. Probably so because they were not

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just like kind of bad, they
were really bad. I mean, I

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think the last two years he was
there, they mean, they were they

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weren't even competitive at times. So
I don't know. Just every now and

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then it hits me how different college
sports has become. And I try at

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times to kind of not really focus
on that because I'm someone that naturally fears

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change and the thought of college sports
and not being what it's always been to

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me would make me sad. So
I'm gonna, you know, I choose

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to believe I'm going to adapt and
adjust and always love it because I can't

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imagine not. But I don't know. Just seeing all the reaction from the

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Coleman Hawkins news today, it just
made me, you know, more aware,

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and I guess just a reminder overall
that this is pro sports now,

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folks, and every aspect, this
is professional sports. And I don't say

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that to say we're screwed. It's
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again, I'm gonna I'm gonna support
it and watch it and consume it

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until it no longer exists. And
I hope that that never happens. But

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there are some that I think found
a level of wholesomeness, if that's a

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word, purity, playing for the
name on the front, not the back,

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that if they're reminded, if it's
in their face, that this was

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all a transactional situation, they're going
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don't know how many people are like
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or if that's just maybe the older
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And here's what I'll tell you.
If you're somebody that's in that space,

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meaning you don't like the thought of
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they're paid, You don't like the
thought of them doing it only because they

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know where that's where the money's at. And you know, I don't agree,

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but you know, everybody's entitled to
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own belief on it. But I'll
just tell you this, it's kind of

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been that way for a while.
I mean, maybe not to this extent.

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I don't think everybody was getting paid, but clearly guys were getting impermissible

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benefits as they call it, to
go to certain schools for generations. Right

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go back to like the seventies.
I bet somebody's dad got a pickup truck

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to for their kid to go to
a certain school. If you've seen the

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movie Blue Chips, that wasn't just
a script movie, a script from a

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writer for the film like that was
kind of what everybody knew what was going

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on. So if you are somebody
that's turned off by it, I get

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it, you know, I don't
agree, but just know that when you

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were worshiping college sports twenty years ago, there was still a level of it

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being a transactional situation. The issue
now is that it's right in your face.

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And I still don't know why you
care. But if you do,

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you know you do. Everybody's wired
differently. They see things that they view

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it differently. But I'd say,
as of right now, I mean,

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this will be the year where if
you are still trying to live in that

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world where this is amateur it's for
the love of the game, it's about

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these kids are students first. I
mean, I think this will be the

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year where that completely is just a
race from your brain because it's going to

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be right in your face. Well, you talked about, you know,

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just with with the change in college
sports just a couple of years ago,

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when the transfer portal really became like
a big thing, even before nil was

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really in your face, you saw
these kids really kind of showing their allegiances

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towards the coaches, and when the
coaches would leave and get transferred somewhere else

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and always that's what really kind of
kickstarted the rule that how come they can

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go coach immediately, But if we
leave and that's not the original coach we

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committed to, we have to sit
out a year or you got to do

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that? Or how come they get
paid all these big this big money and

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why they get paid all this and
they can and they can get fired like

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Kenny Payne. Kenny Payne will make
more money this year to not coach Louisville

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basketball than Pat Kelsey's going to make
to coach loivel basketball. Crazy, say

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it out loud. It doesn't even
seem possible, but it's it's just how

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it works. So you know,
I agree with every Like we had a

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caller earlier this week who made a
point about how this is ruined college athletics

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and it sucks and it's terrible,
and I agree that it's a big change.

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And the days of guys maybe playing
in your program for many years and

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being lifers that you remember forever,
like that's probably dead and gone unless you

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know you're in that upper tier,
which is that you're succeeding in a major

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way. You're YUCONN right now.
Yeah, exactly. Like the best case

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scenario if you'd ever have that is
dudes who are on your team that are

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really good, that don't translate to
the NBA, you're having success and the

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NIL money is there because then they
wouldn't leave, Like they're going to stay

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in college for four years maybe five. Heck, some guys are playing six

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seven years now, So like that's
the best case scenario. But I agree,

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like it's going to be different and
some of the best like, for

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example, I don't think Louisville Basket. I don't know this for sure,

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and we'll never know, but I
have a hard time believing Louisville's last national

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championship in twenty thirteen would have happened
if things were the way they are now,

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meaning back then, like if guys
could, like Russ would have been

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gone. And Russ is one of
the best players that's ever played here.

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It's a legend, and he was
about to leave when they're when he was

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gonna have to sit out. So, you know, I hear all the

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frustration and worry that like college sports
will never feel the same for fans.

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I totally get it. But for
about five years now this has been a

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talking point, right like, should
you know, should players be allowed to

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transfer whenever? How do they not
get any of the how do they not

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get even a teeny tiny crumb from
the billions of dollars the NCAA generates from

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the NCAA tournament. And it's really
two conversations. Yeah, it's it's gonna

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be different, and I'm sure there
will be some that will turned off.

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They'll be turned off by it,
and they'll just change it in a major

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way, and that's unfortunate. However, there's really, like, I don't

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I've never heard anybody claim that these
students should have to sit out because they

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transfer to that they shouldn't be allowed
to make money from people who want to

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give them money. And I think
what it comes down to is that there's

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a fear of change, right,
Like you can claim it's going to be

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awful, but you're saying it's going
to be awful compared to the way you

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got used to it for generations.
I mean, college athletics never changed as

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far as what like the imateur is
a model from the NSABA has been the

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same for no joke, seventy years. So it's not that it's terrible.

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It's just so different than what you're
used to, and that's what bothers you.

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But it doesn't mean that it's not
right. Like nobody's ever told me

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why a player shouldn't be able to
transfer wherever they want, whenever they want,

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and be able to play Why white
white, you know, because it

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makes it harder for a coach because
fans won't be able to have a guy

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around for five years, Like just
because you know, we get so sucked

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up in being a fan, because
that's at the end of the day,

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we're all fanatics, right, and
that leads to a level of emotion kind

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of overtaking you to where you you
don't really think totally rationally. But a

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player in college sports, there's no
reason why they would ever need to sit

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out if I'm in the band at
EKU and I transferred to be in the

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pet band at Wku. They'd never
make me sit out, why would they?

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But in sports they did it because
they wanted they were looking out for

405
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:25.759
the competitive product, and that was
their inconsistency. That was where they contradicted

406
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:30.440
themselves. This was clearly professional sports. There were clearly rules that prohibited players

407
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.759
from doing what they wanted to do. And if that's the case, you

408
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:44.319
know what that means. It's pro
sports their employees. So the only I

409
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:48.160
guess counter that comes up every now
and then, which is true, and

410
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:52.720
it kind of at times makes me
just, you know, want to side

411
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:55.839
with those that say we should have
these rules in place where players shouldn't be

412
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:59.079
able to be paid and they shouldn't
be able to transfer. And that's this

413
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.599
making you go play, right,
Like, if you're that good, you

414
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:03.720
don't have to go to college and
play. You can go the G League,

415
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.240
you can go overseas. It's like, because they're not forcing you to

416
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.119
do it. I guess in a
way, you could say, well,

417
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.279
if you don't want to, you
don't have to. But that's also a

418
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:17.559
dangerous line to kind of toe,
given the fact that if you did make

419
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:21.039
it to where it was inconvenient for
every great player coming out of high school,

420
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.319
then the NBA would actually have a
legitimate farm system because they wouldn't want

421
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:29.519
to go to college. So I
don't know, I've always, I guess,

422
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:32.640
had my blinders on, thinking like, no matter what happens, no

423
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:36.799
matter what's done, college sports is
going to be something I love forever,

424
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.799
and I'm going to embrace it regardless
of the changes that are coming. But

425
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.839
for some reason, today it was
like one of those days where it hit

426
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.880
me like wait a second, like
now this is pro sports. It is

427
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:47.920
all right, quick break, We'll
come back on the other side. Keep

428
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:49.920
this thing rolling along. It's coffee
and company. We are feel about Thornton's

429
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:55.960
right here on Sports Talk seven ninety
Now back to coffee and Company, fueled

430
00:27:55.960 --> 00:28:00.759
by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine
day. That's that's right, coffee and

431
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:06.000
company rolling along here on a Friday
afternoon, a very disgusting friday. And

432
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:10.240
I say that because it's just so
humid, and uh, I hate the

433
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.279
humidity. I do I'd rather I
mean, I don't know about you,

434
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:17.200
Austin, I'm a sweaty guy.
Myself. I don't like the hot weather.

435
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:18.839
You live in Arizona forever, so
I'm sure you used to hot weather.

436
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.720
Yeah, but I mean like I
would take still hate it, give

437
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.920
me snow over the heat index that
we're about to get here, because it's

438
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.160
just never been a fan of the
humidity, the stickiness. And you've even

439
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.720
said it on the show before.
You don't even like being places that are

440
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.359
hot. I just I just like
you. I look around and I'm like,

441
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.920
why is everyone outside? Why would
you choose to be out in this

442
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.599
you know, disgusting, disgusting heat
unless you're like right by a pool,

443
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.640
which I was earlier. I just
would stay pull up in the backyard.

444
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.920
Ice was really good, maybe had
a little marg nice. It was a

445
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.039
real yeah yeah yeah, frozen on
the rocks. It was on the I

446
00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:00.279
have one of those little I have
one of those little stainless steel like alls

447
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.440
that you freeze. Oh okay,
and uh you so like it's like an

448
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.599
ice ball, right, just like
an ice ball, but it's not really

449
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:08.039
ice. Yeah. Yeah, No, it's just like a little stainless steel

450
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.799
ball and it's, uh, it's
pretty clutch if you're gonna be out and

451
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.680
again, it's it's not it's not
as if it's a thousand degrees outside.

452
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.519
But this is a day where I
feel like the heat index is a real

453
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:25.039
reminder of what it feels like because
it could be the same temperature, but

454
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:26.720
if the humidity's not crazy, it's
still gonna be hot. Yeah, but

455
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:30.960
not you know, not just like
thick and disgusting. When I say thick,

456
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.599
I mean the air quality. Yeah, I mean I got a sickness

457
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.480
for the thickness in a different way. But I don't want the thick air,

458
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:38.920
you know what I mean. I
don't want the thick air. No,

459
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.400
it's not that kind of thick that
makes me uncomfortable. My worst the

460
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:45.960
worst thing I hate about it is
getting in your car after it's been there,

461
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:48.640
like just been in the heat all
day, and I don't it just

462
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.480
might be a little bit different for
me. I have all leather interior,

463
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.799
so like it's just it's, yeah, a little sick brag, little peanut

464
00:29:55.799 --> 00:30:00.519
butter, a little peanut butter inside
outside jelly shout out the project Pa.

465
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.000
But like it's it's it's ridiculous.
It's so much easier, especially you know

466
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.559
you said you're a sweaty guy yourself. I'm a bigger, heftier guy like

467
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:12.240
you. It's so easier for me
to warm up than cool off. Like

468
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.279
you could just go inside and then
just sit in front of a fan for

469
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.759
god knows how long, and then
you're still you walk away from it's still

470
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.920
not satisfied. But I thrown a
couple of coats and put on a blanket

471
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:27.039
when I'm freezing cold. I'm good. So what what parts of the country

472
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:33.359
are mostly known for having very very
hot temperature, But everybody says, oh,

473
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:37.000
it's a dry heat, which I
assume means no no humidity, like

474
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.720
Texas, Arizona, maybe because Mexico. So you you lived in you lived

475
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.559
in Arizona, Arizona, baby,
And is that like, is that like

476
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:51.319
the desert Arizona, Arizona where it
snows right? So yeah, southern Arizona

477
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.599
in my lifetime, it's snowed there
three times. So for the most part,

478
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.000
it was very hot, right,
very very very hot. So I

479
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:02.279
mean, compare it to heat here
is it? I mean I've been to

480
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.720
Arizona once and it was Phoenix,
which I feel like is the desert,

481
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.640
Like I actually have been to Phoenix
a couple of times. I've been to

482
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:10.240
Vegas a few times. I actually
think Phoenix was hotter than Vegas when I

483
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:11.440
was, so you've been there during
like the summer or the warm months.

484
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.480
So I mean, I remember the
first time I went to Phoenix is about

485
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.119
ten years ago, and I landed. Of course, big time change,

486
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.680
so I left in the morning,
but it was even It was really early

487
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:23.920
when I landed there in Phoenix,
and it was a it was a direct

488
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:30.640
flight, so I remember knowing I
was going in in it was August.

489
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.480
It was really hot, and I
knew to be prepared for heat. But

490
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:34.279
everybody said, oh, it's a
dry heat. It's dry heat, it's

491
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:40.559
not that bad. And I remember
walking from the rental car checkout enterprise,

492
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:45.759
and I probably walked one hundred yards
to get to the car from the you

493
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.519
know, from where I was maybe
maybe not in that, maybe eighty yards.

494
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.680
And I remember thinking like, Okay, well, I now need a

495
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:59.920
bath or a shower because I've walked
you know, a few minutes at most,

496
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:04.880
and I went from being comfortable to
where I'm soaking wet in every part

497
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.359
of my body. And I remember
thinking like, what does a dry heat

498
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.160
mean? Because I'm wet and this
is disgusting. I don't like hot temperature,

499
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:15.319
you know, extremely hot temperature and
under any circumstances. But you know,

500
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:16.759
and then I'm into Vegas where you
can't even go outside. Yeah,

501
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.920
I mean, like it like it's
just like, I don't know, it's

502
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.839
just a I think it's just a
myth to get the East Coasters on the

503
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.079
west side of the country to where
they won't be afraid of the heat because

504
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.200
we complain about how hot it is
here at times, and over there it's

505
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.640
like fifteen degrees hotter, and yet
they act like, oh, it's not

506
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.559
as bad though, because it's dry, and like, what the hell's that

507
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:36.880
mean? Well, I guess,
like, well, let me tell you

508
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.440
this. When it's like one hundred
and ten degrees there or one hundred degrees

509
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:45.440
in Arizona, or like it's straight
on, that's that's heat from the sun.

510
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.279
Like there is no like thick humidity
through it. That's just like literally

511
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.279
the sun beaming down or just a
scorching area of the country, so like

512
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:57.759
it is literally like an oven.
And it's like we're and I haven't seen

513
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.079
it here too much, but you
know, like when you look out you

514
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.680
kind of see like the waves like
little ripples like mirages kind of like that.

515
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.400
That's what Arizona was all the time
looking out my way. You get

516
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:08.240
used to it, I guess,
Oh yeah, I was used to it.

517
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:10.000
I was. I was used to
it. It took me a while

518
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.160
to get used to the cold here. Like I just feel like if it

519
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:17.119
was a hunt, if that temperature
that you just described was to happen here

520
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:22.480
today, like in my home or
not in my home, but you know

521
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:24.079
where I live, I feel like
there's no way my air conditioning would work.

522
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:27.039
Yeah, you know what I mean. I had to blast it does.

523
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.359
Like does AC work there effectively?
Yeah? It does, it does.

524
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.000
It's just it's a it's a little
bit easier to get used to,

525
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:36.559
rather than what they call like the
thickness and the wetness of the humidity here.

526
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:38.400
Like you get back in your car, turn on the AC or you

527
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:43.519
should be good like immediately here I
have to wait till the AC kicks on

528
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.599
rolling for a couple of minutes to
kind of just get unsticky. But when

529
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.839
it's hot there, it's it's hot. I still even after living here for

530
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.960
eleven years and now ten years now, I still don't know which is worse

531
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.839
because I really do not like the
humidity. But like over there, I

532
00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.079
mean it was it was I like
to give my other hometown props in this

533
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.039
sense. It's pretty hot there too, so you go there, if it's

534
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.000
one hundred degrees that's straight from the
sun. Well it works out well for

535
00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:10.880
for us tomorrow because I think it's
going to be pretty sticky tomorrow too.

536
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.400
And my daughter who plays in the
Miracle League shout out to the Miracle League

537
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.599
special Needs Baseball League, which you
guys hear me talk about all the time.

538
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.280
It's it's awesome, tomorrow's our last
game. I can't believe how quickly

539
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.320
the wow, the season went by. But given out awards and trophies and

540
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:29.880
stuff, no, I mean they
do enough throughout the season two where it's

541
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.960
like, you know, it's it's
I still can't, you know, get

542
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:37.199
over how much they go above and
beyond for these for these special needs not

543
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:38.840
just children, but you can also
you can also participate if you're an adult

544
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:42.480
as well. But they put their
name on this. They've got a big

545
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.679
video board where they've got their picture
up there. The announcers, the announcer,

546
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:50.079
you know, they walk up music
the announcer calls out their name.

547
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.800
Now up to bad and you know
it's Maya Coffee and all Maya scores are

548
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.199
run and it's just so it's just
so freezing. Yeah, it's great.

549
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.840
But she plays tomorrow at nine am, which is the first time we've had

550
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:02.079
a game that early, which makes
me, you know, happy to know

551
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.039
that it's not going to be you
know, it's not going to be that

552
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.000
crazy. And here I am complaining
about, you know, how how sticky

553
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:10.719
and hot it is, but it's
like it's not even ninety degrees right now.

554
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:13.880
It's just a little bit under that, and tomorrow the high is ninety

555
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.440
but it's gonna be sunny. So
once we finish up our our baseball game,

556
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.519
we're probably just going to head to
the pool and hang out. And

557
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.840
that's the way to do it.
You go, a family has pool or

558
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:24.599
you got to a pool. So
we don't have a pool, but my

559
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:30.719
mother and stepfather have a very very
nice pool set up in ground and it's

560
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.719
it's you know, they've they've been
they've been very nice to us to let

561
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.559
us have all of our kids birthday
parties there. Yeah, and it's kind

562
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.159
of an o. Well, I
feel like it's an open invite thing.

563
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.400
We kind of just show up whenever
we want. But like, I don't

564
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.079
know, like maybe I should ask, like, hey, you know,

565
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:46.639
I do try to give Yeah,
I do try to give him a heads

566
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:51.159
up if we are coming. But
yeah, I mean it's it's we're very

567
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.760
lucky to have open policy at Mom
and Dads. Yeah, but you know,

568
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:57.480
like you can only you know,
I don't know, they've never told

569
00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:59.920
us like not take so much.
Yeah, they've never told us not to.

570
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:01.960
They've never they've never said, you
know, hey, you know,

571
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.000
just so you know the next couple
of weeks, but you don't want you

572
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.400
here because they would never do that. But I don't know. Now you've

573
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.000
got me thinking, probably nice to
give them a warning because you know,

574
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:13.760
bringing the family over, you kind
of got to be mentally prepared for that.

575
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:15.880
Love for them to death or not. But like, let me take

576
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.760
a couple of minutes to decompress what's
going on. Maybe give me enough to

577
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.719
make a lie or something. That's
what I liked if it was just me

578
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.159
the wife, I mean, I
think you'd be fine. But I also

579
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:29.119
know that if there's ever like a
day where they're kind of not into hosting.

580
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:30.800
They got stuff going on, like
they prefer to kind of have a

581
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:36.519
chill day. Yeah, once my
kids get there, it's all off because

582
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:38.840
they just get so excited to see
grandkids. Like that's you can take it.

583
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:43.440
When you have kids and they've got
grandparents who you know, love being

584
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.079
around them and love really embracing the
grandparent role. First of all, it's

585
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:50.920
awesome to see and it'll melt you
hard, but also like it can help

586
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:54.239
you out because you know they can
quit. Put it this way, even

587
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:58.880
if my mom, my dad,
my stepdad did not want to, like

588
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.639
and you know, have a day
where they're doing grandparents stuff. Once the

589
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:06.679
kids are in front of them and
they asked, they're not gonna say no,

590
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:07.400
right, you know what I mean, Like they're not gonna tell them

591
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.239
no, you can't. No,
I don't want to go play baseball with

592
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.880
you. No, I don't want
to let you the tractor at the house.

593
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.360
Like it's just you know, we
shouldn't have to take advantage of that.

594
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.280
But you know, you didn't use
your kids as a cheat code every

595
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:21.400
now and there exactly exactly. All
right, let's get to a quick break.

596
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.679
We will come back on the other
side wrap up at three o'clock hour.

597
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:25.920
Don't forget coming up at four o'clock. We're gonna talk to our man,

598
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:30.159
mister Jeff Greer, and I believe
at four thirty we're gonna bring in

599
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.800
doctor Eric McElroy pro have physical therapy
to join us, and I'm curious to

600
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.599
get his thoughts on the news over
the last couple of days in regards to

601
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.880
the UFC, I know the Connor
McGregor fight got changed because of an injury,

602
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:44.719
you know, Mike Tyson. I
know that fight's been rescheduled with one

603
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:46.280
of the Paul brothers, but there's
some people that still believe that that will

604
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:52.440
never end up happening because of Mike
Tyson's situation. So we are loaded the

605
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.039
rest of the way and towards the
end of the show in the five o'clock

606
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:58.159
we're gonna have some real fun because
Austin and I are going to be drafting

607
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TV dads. Let's go for the
three round TV dad draft, which I

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have a feeling that you're not going
to be stealing picks for me, and

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I'm not going to be stealing picks
down you know, I'm looking at my

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I've been looking at my big board
board here, and I think, I

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know, I know we're gonna have
different ones, gonna be some, gonna

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be some surprises, good stuff.
All right, stick with us right here

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today at LNFCU dot com. Uh. This text says, Nick, you

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should have led with the last points
you made when it comes to nil.

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Nobody's forcing these college kids to go
and play. Therefore, nobody had to

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do anything to rock the boat.
You're right. They could have kept it

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as is and had that stance.
Well, if you don't like the way

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college athletics is set up, if
you don't like our amateurism model, then

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you don't have to be a part
of it. You can go to the

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G League. You can go get
a job. You can be a regular

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student, you can you know,
you can go play overseas. But that

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was their stance forever. And what
happened is a lawsuit took place, and

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that's what that's why now the schools
are having to pay money to previous athletes

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who clearly, i mean, let's
be real here, we can we can

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acknowledge that nobody was forcing them to
play, right, nobody told them they

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had to do it. They weren't
forced to do it. Again, that's

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quite clear. And there are many, many, many, many, many

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many student athletes across the country that
were not exploited because the school didn't profit

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a ton of money from them.
There are some exceptions, right, Like

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clearly when you've got the marketing juggernaut
that is Tim Tebow at Florida, Lamar

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Jackson at Louisville, I mean,
maybe even Anthony Davis at Kentucky for basketball,

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Like there's no way to really pinpoint
the exact amount of money that was

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generated for that school because of that
person playing there. But like there's there's

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brand value there, so like all
that's true. However, if you look

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at it and just see the NCUBLEA, there's an event called the NCAA tournament

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that they've been profiting an insane amount
of money on every year. I mean

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it's a billion dollars. The NCAA
wouldn't exist without the NTABAA tournament because what

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most people don't realize is that they
don't make any money on football. The

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ESPN owns the College Football Playoff,
the NTABA does not. NCAA doesn't own

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any of these bowl games. The
TV networks do. So it's still is

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just it's just it's it all that
money being generated and the people who actually

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work and participate and perform the entertainment, the talent, the workers that are

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involved in the NCAA tournament did not
get a single thing. And yeah,

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you can say, well, but
they got a free education, they got

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you know, they got a room
and board, they got a stipend that's

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from the school. The nc DOUBLEA
itself profited an insane amount of money and

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they didn't pay the people who really
put on the event and or part of

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it. And again, like I'm
not even trying to convince you that that

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we should be paying players or we
should not. I'm just like that's not

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normal. Like even if even when
I wanted to live in the world to

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where they shouldn't change anything. I
just it's impossible to look at the amount

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of money generated from the NCAA tournament
and really just the money that the NCAA

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makes every year annually, and Mark
Emmert's getting his two million dollar bonuses to

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go on top of his insanely lucrative
salary, and yet the people who are

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playing the sport don't get any They
don't get a crumb let alone a piece

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of the pie. Like that just
is not that's that's illegal, which is

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what the courts determined, which is
why we're in this situation now. So

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if you want to blame somebody,
it really comes down to blaming the nc

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DOUABLEA for not getting ahead of this
and figuring out some kind of a system

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to where there was some level of
profit sharing from the nc DOUBLEA to where

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it's not you know, you're not
having to get into the nil world and

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you're not paying players based off of
performance. It's just a stipend essentially,

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that is from the NCUBLEA itself.
All right, two hours left, stick

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with us right here. It's coffee
and Company on a Friday, filbouth Thornton's

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