I was listening to the story about It was the story of a family in
Washington, and the little boy called the big Foot the cowboy man, and
he had apparently it had made an effort to steal this kid. And it
hit me. My children were in that plate pen behind me with nothing but
a mosquito net over him. It could have crept up behind me and taken
both of my children and I wouldn't know. Father just got like a Mustang
or something from Wyoming, Okay. He had it out in the corral because
he couldn't put it in the barn with the in the stalls with the other
horses. It would kick and made all the other horses nervous. Had a
seminal Indian work in the horse, trying to break it. Every day they
had it out in the corrawl. The skunky snuck up behind his horse and
grammed it bonnets hind quarters. This particular horse that kicks out, jumps over
the corral, runs into the pit, you know, to get away.
At this point, the ranchers out there just blessed away with the thirty thirty
stun gave us into the slump. I went up there one day after that
or two days after that, I went up there and sat in the silence
up there, and I'm telling you, man, it was free. It
was crazy, you know it was. There was a crazy vibe up there.
Still, I did what I could to kind of get things out of
control. But I told her, I said, you need to get off
this problem. I feel like, no matter how strong you are, it's
almost like standing in the ocean. You can't stand still without moving your feet.
You're gonna get knocked over eventually. No matter how strong whatever, you
can't withstand a barrage of weird spiritual energy. Hey, what's up everybody,
Twaine, Welcome back to Paranormal Odyssey. Got a good show lined up for
you today, one that I was not a part of. We had this
guest scheduled for quite a while, and as you know, we just celebrated
Christmas in New Year's and as a Christmas gift, my brother Jonathan got my
dad and myself some tickets to go watch our mighty Volunteers of Tennessee play basketball,
our fifth ranked I might add mighty volunteers. So I was not able
to be a part of this episode, but Tiffany stepped up and did it
solo and did a fantastic job with our guests and I'm so so happy to
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that's enough of all of that. I know you are ready. I am
ready. Tiffany and Bobby are ready. Let's get started. Hey, Bobby
Dizzels and how that's right? We are backstage. You having some backstage having
some fomo. I'm excited to get this going. Let's see who we haven't
here about here. Roger Williams in the house. Yeah, Sandra Piper,
Troy Ryan is in here, got Bristol. Some of my fans are here
or listeners, not fans. I don't have fans. Oh, Wayne's here,
he said, yes, sup, my homies. Sorry I'm missing y'all
tonight. Be good to our girl all I told him. Proud. He
said, he's having a good time with his bro and his dad. I'm
glad I can do this. That gives him, just gives him that break.
He's walking down all those giant hills at UT getting getting too that basketball
campus. You gotta go up the mountain back down, right, That's what
Rocky Tops about. It's about walking on that dang campus. You get you
get a heart palpitation walking on it. Right, you can fly. You
always got bulldozers, just staircases randomly placed. It's like the back room's over
there, exactly. And Wayne said, y'all show some love with the super
chats, which if you if you're on Facebook, it's not there. You
have to be on YouTube to do the super chats. But if you look
at the little comment bar, there's a dollar bill beside it. Donations would
be hopeful to keep going what we're doing. So I know you. I've
been on your show before, and even though I know you, also as
producer, I dig and do research in homework. But whoever is watching now
or may watch it after the replay, who may not be familiar with you,
tell us how you got your start and what it is you do well.
I started off. I had it called the Bobby Dizzel Podcast, and
it was about everything. I had stand up comedians on, I had war
veterans, had a World War two gallon one time that was interesting, and
just anybody. I had a guy that once lived in Germany. That's that's
like one of my taglines. And one time a guy actually lived in Germany.
We just talked about Germany for an hour. But you know, podcasting
is you double down on what works, and the paranormal thing works, people
flock to it, and what works even more than normal is bigfoot crap.
And so I ended up That's how I ended up here. I just kind
of I niche down, I kind of workshopped a name for a few months,
and I came up with that. I call it the Caffeine ENCRYPTID with
Bobby Disnel podcast or the Caffeated Crypti podcast, and just kind of it's almost
like fate drew me to the topic. Like I wasn't trying to be a
big footer. I don't consider myself a big footer. It's just something I
could talk about. Like it's like somebody that likes watching Marvel movies. Yeah,
that's me. I do have like tendency to believe, and I'm not
like a skeptic and just laughing at everybody. I do love the stories,
and I've loved the subject matter since I was about I was seven or eight
years old, maybe maybe ten, nineteen or four. I bought a book
at a book fair called The Scary Stories You've Ever Heard, And one of
them was the Sasquatch. The other one was the Hook on the Door and
the Babysitter or the Calls over inside the House. Yes, yeah, I
think I think my mom still got that book in her house and I cannot
find it. I've been in addic till I couldn't breathe looking for that book
reading it, and I became obsessed with it. That the and just my
whole life. It's been kind of there, so it's not hurting me to
talk about it off when it's a career. Oh no, I'll get to
hang out in the woods and talk to cool people. Not please know Roger.
Roger's watching Holler. He's like best friends, like best friends. People
I never would have imagined me like you. I think you're like one of
the instant best friends. I called it. I'm sure Wayne will be that
way if we can get and take that orange off. But I mean,
I ain't touching that one. Wayne. It'll be fun, We'll have a
good time. He'll band me forever. This is how I get canceled.
No, we can't do that. To see you'll have the last lap,
so take that, fat boy. But yeah, that's how it happened.
I just became something I like talking about, and I kind of doubled down.
And that's if you're starting a podcast, what if something works like Gangbusters,
just brank it down. And I'm starting another one on another channel about
kind of my fitness journey and I want to see what I want to I'm
want to apply the same thing there. But I think that one's already got
three thousand subs. Just about and so uh you know, yeah, that
one. That one I think I can just I think I can spend some
of those people tomorrow to this channel and kind of just make it have to
have to monetized channels at once. Hey, but we'll see. For right
now, I'll talk about squatchy stuff in coffee because I got my Like,
I showed you my new coffee mode, leaving yourself, I am digging.
Next, Roger said, fitting this whole in my mouth. It's so funny
that we're talking about that because I'm telling you look after okay, after I
quit my job earlier this year, we were talking about it. I I
don't eat any more than I used to, Okay, but I also do
not walk as much as I used to. Because you're a writer and when
you're a podcast you sit down and that's just what you do. So I
get it. I get it. You can you can tell me inappropriate if
you want be But do you participate in like the gummies or the the greenery
being a podcasters and you don't have a job anymore? I do not.
I just right because the moment that becomes green light for me, it's over
with. I'm snoop dogg. I'm just saying, but not until then,
not until not until I'm Snoop Dizzle, You're Snoop Dizzel. It'll be a
much different podcast than when that happens. But not until then. That's hilarious.
The choice that I'll be about Yep, probably I'll probably stop. I'll
do it once like, man, that was terrible. Yeah, fall asleep
on camera, be like wake up, So let's get into this big bag
of wu that. Yeah, let's take it, you know. And I'm
gonna tell you I have not received any hate mail, So if anybody has
any hate emails about the show, please send it to Bobby diszelcast at gmail
dot com. Please work or go to Bobby Dizzel dot com and subscribe there
and complain in the comments. I'll respond to. I'll respond to each one
of them personally, like a civil order writing home to Matha. There is
Matha e coment. So that's the encounters, and and then then Bobby the
hate mail. It is. It's a really controversial topic and so many people
want to stray away from this side. But when you're a good researcher,
you have to look at everything, even the out of the blox off the
wall everything. So what what stories have you heard. I've read an article
that was written about you has passed October. Yes, yes, and I
was, well, he did a really good job on the article and I
had actually read it a couple of times just to have it ingrained in my
brain for the show. But you were talking about in that article I think
his name is, is it Randy Bower, Black Duck, Minnesota. Yeah,
because you were saying, all right, so you had done this seven
panel podcast and you guys were talking about the Bigfoot and the UFO connection,
which incidentally, on that Bigfoot podcast, we did that same show where we
discussed it. But on that show that we did, there was a gentleman
at the end who had said that there was an orb floating in the woods
and it all of a sudden turned into a possum. And I was like,
that's a really it's a really big ask. But then I read that
article with you where he that he had seen orbs and they turned into thinks
kind of floated down and started crunching. Yeah, it's the crazy story I've
ever heard. Yeah, well could you tell it? Do you remember?
Right? Well, I've actually he was there He was there with two or
three people, and I talked to all three of them, and I even
had them on the show. I believe his friend John and the book writer
Michael Quass. But yeah, they were on a tree stand. It was
let me see, it's been about the years since he told me, but
I can pretty much recide about eleven o'clock at night. I think it was
dark. He said. It was like an elevator door opened up in the
woods and the northern lights came out, you know, just rainbow lights and
stuff. Two orbs came floating out and they got close to the ground started
crunching. It reminded me of a field of dreams. You know how they
like a reverse how they how you just see nothing and all of a sudden,
the feet started going, said, it started crunching, and they walked
over to a gifting area, grabbed some apples and uh, maybe some peanut
butter. There's always peanut butter in a gifting area. No one knows why,
but uh, and they walked floated, started floating again. The orbs
were crunching as they floated away and then back into the orbs. Uh portal,
it went, that is at least three, at least two to three
people saw it and they've all told the same story. Well, see,
that's when it gets hard to deny. That's when. And we talked about
this with Emma Steveson and John Barrenschak, the psychological aspect of it, where
society would say, okay, well that would be considered a mass hallucination or
something round about there, because it was more. But I just think it's
Yeah, I mean, I just think it's it's fascinating to hear those accounts,
but so many of them get shot in the dirt before. And I've
heard the bro redacts all the wu Wu stuff in their stuff in their accounts
and hides those stories. Or why would you do that? Yeah, a
huge yeah, because it does fit the narrative because they wanted to fit into
what they see it as or what they think of it as. So it
doesn't fit their narratives, so it's done away with. Or I think it
was you and Carter Bochard had talked about that where or like why is this
happening? Why is he taking all this out? Yeah? He said they
took like reducted. They even had a forum for it that was just specifically
for that uh. And it's what was called the gray form or the blue
form mm hmm. And it was for all those stories that had the lou
in them. Yeah, why would why would you want to say if you're
if you really want to make this stuff, if you really want to prove
it real, why would you hide like half the half the evidence about it,
even if it does sound weird. Yeah, And and that's the thing
is it doesn't fit their narrative. And so and I told you before the
show. I did three pages of notes today on different sections of what I
could rid And I don't know. We have forty five minutes. We might
be able to fit it all in. But spoiler alert, you're coming back
on the twenty fourth of February, and we'll return. Yes, so mega
trun Yeah, Troy said, And then I'll get back to it. Troy
said. I've heard this same And they don't want anything to distract from being
flesh and blood. It's supposed to understand that either. Why are they so
hung up on flesh and blood? I tell you the difference in the people
who are woo woo and flesh and blood. The people who are woo woo
have seen Bigfoot flesh and blood. People have not either that they've seen it
near a campsite when it was flesh and blood, right, miss Jessica,
Yes, thank you for coming in. Yeah, that's and that's what I
was. It just and people are so funny to do that because, like
I said, it doesn't fit the script in their heads. So it's dismissed.
But if you look at and when Jessica came in and reminded me,
so, when you research and you have all of the supernatural WU aspects,
do people look at remote viewing in the same light as it being part of
the WU. I'm honestly asking because I don't know's it's weird because like I'm
almost speaking like it's a spectator myself, because there's people that's doing people that
they're in the chat right now have done more research than I have. I
don't even know why I'm here other than the fact that I just other than
the fact that I just persist and get on shows for no reason. I'm
like Alex Jones, I just show up here. Yeah, Jessica, Jessica
is like the the uh Troy Aikman of of the researcher in the in the
comments, but I think it's I don't know why why it stops? Like
you got your aliens? Why am I doing my hands like this? My
ricky Bobby, you got your I'm gonna do with my hands. But you
got you like your aliens and your ghosts, and those are okay to do
crazy shit. But you you the moment you tweak the doll over to big
foots Oh that's a month. Yes, Why are you so hung up on
this damn monkey? What if it's not what I mean? What if it
is? But it's like another evolutional uh direction that maybe they evolved some other
kind of features. Yeah, well, it's like in the in the research
that I did, there's there's three camps. You have the scientific mind,
so Bigfoot is flesh and blood. That's all Bigfoot is is flesh and blood.
And then you have the camp that Bigfoot is an inter dimensional being who
can go from place to pay place, therefore being it's not easy, you
know, that way, they can remain mostly undetected. And then you have
the UFO connection where people are saying that Bigfoot is an alien. So you
have all these camps and it's just like, you know, if it's not
flesh and blood Hamid. It's dismissed. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
because there's an a there's more evidence of people seeing him do crazy stuff than
not. Yeah, you got like Randy Bauer is like, I go back
to him. He's like, I'm like living vicariously on Randy's coattails. But
he's got the story that he walked to the other end of his property with
a group of people, saw a TPE and no it walked to a new
TP, looked at it, walked to other than his property, saw another
TP that he didn't know was there. It was video, and he got
back and it was the same TPE. But they made him think that they
were like one hundred yards away. And he went back and traced the snow
tracks and they had not doubled back. That's crazy. And he said,
it's the freakiest thing in the world. He said it messed him up for
a few days. And and the IR cameras that capture like the motion detection
of he said he saw one on his cell phone pop up like a full
frontal class A sighting. He said, He's like Terry, his wife's name
is Terry. Terry, come in here, look at this and then the
picture got removed from his phone just that I read. I can't think that
that is so funny because I read about that and it was talking about I
think it was in with the U the UFO stuff that I yeah, but
I was looking I had found and I can't remember the website, so I
the worbsited page, but it's talking about Peter Leeson studied the connection closely.
When you list the top ten states for sightings of both, six occur for
Alaska, Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, Washington, and Oregon where people
see Bigfoot in conjunction with UFOs. And I had seen the thing where it
said that they tried to almost like implant scream stay tuned for more paranormal odyssey.
And that's what you hear talked about with the UFO and aliens Worth implants,
and you lose time with each of them. Why would you lose time
with a hidden monkey? Yeah, we're just yeah, if it were just
an ape, how would that happen? And let's the only explanations I've heard
are from people who I really respect, Da Roberts and uh Robbie Rains,
and that they they have the they bring up the infrasound from tigers and I
think something else does it. And they also think the echo location is a
tree knock or three dock's echo location. Yeah, and they can go into
and they can go into casually quick. Well, that's the only explanation that
I've heard of that remotely covers them. But you still got people who are
losing their phones getting messed up, the batteries getting drained. That's just across
the board. Yeah, And that's always been my thing, Like before I
did this and I was working listening to you guys, it's it's something that
I always piqued my interest because you hear about them near telephone polls and then
again like all the electronics and stuff like that getting messed up. I mean,
is it just their electrical you know whatever that's doing this? You know,
Roger squatching in the comments, here's a theory that our hypothesis that maybe
what was it? He he goes, is there why is there no cell
service where Bigfoot are? Do they cause the loss of service or do they
flocked to places without it? Because it irritates m h. It's interesting because
if you look at the Verizon map in the it almost lays over the hop
of the big foot sidings like the National parks. Obviously the place's way out
there don't have cell service, and so maybe maybe uh, it's it's it's
an interesting correlation. You can put it over. You can put a pin
in an interesting category. Yes, well, I don't think they're causing the
lack of service, but maybe they go there because it doesn't piss them off
as much. Right, it's like maybe it's like being in like a getting
an MRI to them. You know, Yeah, they don't like that five
G. They can't like the five G. Well, and and two it's
like I've heard that they can. The reason they stay away from trail cameras
is because they can since that little red light it emits some kind of sound.
And well, I've got tons of pictures of trail cameras myself. I
can pull them up now. But take me a minute of the deer looking
right at them. Yeah. So, and so if if a pot of
chili can see the see the thing and know it's there and it's doing something,
and uh, whatever interdimensional being can definitely know it's there because and they're
not doing it. That thing's not doing anything. It's a. It's a
line that's not if they can sense that the other things can I'm sure they
can't. Oh yeah, so what is your opinion on the I think it
plays right along with it. I think it's a possibly in the fourth dimension
what I'm gonna call behind the veil wherever everything lives, that may all have
the same kind of technology and celeverything's just one of them because it's all calls
cause, uh, you know the skinwalker Ranch has the same phenomenon that Randy's
had at his place. Uh, Jessica's buddy Glynn, our buddy Glynn has
had the same phenomenon happened and just mess him up. You get a headache,
You're you lose time. You hear it from everybody. Hasn't happened to
me yet, but I haven't tried hard enough. But Roger, Roger's got
an interesting telepathy story and it's it freaks me out a little bit to hear.
But uh, I just it all goes together. I guess if you
can do, if you can do, lose time, it's goes right along
with telepathy. Well see, because people dismissed the telepathy where they're like,
well, how do you know that's not your own thought. But out Less
Route experienced it when he was out. A lot of people have. I
mean, it's almost universal to anybody that does anything more than like a garden
variety campsite sighting. There's a lot of people that just you know, they
stay in a place and they see the eye shine and they sit rockstone at
him. Of course they think they're just lesh and blood, because you're just
dealing with basically an animal at that point, right, they came down,
they've came down right to your to your to your level. Basically they're on
your they're on your vibration. But as soon as it walks away, where's
it go? They can't you find one footprint and a half a mile and
where's it go? Where does it go? Yeah, just to find one
one footprint where? Well? And I get that sometimes, you know,
like Brian had talked about how on his property he had one footprint f then
nothing, and then he was saying that was because the substraight on the opposite
side was a little bit harder or denser or whatever to leave the second one.
But it's like when Zach saw what he did, hear it took off,
he heard it run through the woods. But where does it go?
It has nowhere to go without legacy, just out of side and then disappeared.
Yeah, exactly. So yeah, it's a good story. It was
black and fast, black and fast and gone. Yep, oh my goodness.
But its just it makes you wonder. Okay, so is this something
like are there portals around us that we can't see? Like three time this
happens, like and and how how do we know that? There's just not
a way that there's not a portal. But basically that's just what they it's
we call it a portal, but it's basically something just they can do.
Yeah, like we call it, we call it a door. But like
an ant might think, oh my god, these they just move the wall
like it's just a door. It's it's something we use. But they can
just step in and out like you ever seen Dogma with h and those those
the demons take that I can't think of hockey stick and rip the space time
and step into it. I mean, yeah, that's it's probably something like
that. I think it's come back and forth. They can probably operate stuff
outside of it, like Homer Simpson and his gloves. Yeah, without having
without having to come through. Yeah, so what's weird to us is not
weird to them. It's like their second nature. It's gonna sound bad,
but I can't. I can't wait to die and figure it out. I
don't want to die yet more years, but I can't wait till I get
the Q and A. I'll have no I'll bring my note pad with me.
Really, really, how was that the whole time? Okay, get
out of here, I'll be like a lane Seinfield, get out. No
way, right it is and there's just so many things. And then that's
what I was gonna bring up, is the telepathy where people dismiss it,
but you go down and I've said it to you twice already, but it
really is a spiraling staircase because one rabbit hole leads to another. So with
the telepathy, I was like, okay, so if they can use telepathy
to communicate with humans, how do other and people dismiss it? So then
I started looking. I was like, okay, well, how do other
communicate other animals communicate with each other other than visual scent or ces, you
know, body cues, And so then I got that answer by like you
know, it came up as telepathy as well, And then I was like,
okay, so then that brings you into the animal communicators. I didn't
go all the way down that rabbit hole because that's a whole other thing.
But it was just one thing after another after another. You can't tell me
bees can't reach other's mind, right, you're telling me them shaking their little
b asses is how they tell you where all the nectar is? They get
that? What do they tell you in school? They get down there they
do a little dance. Yeah, that's not how No, man, that's
a high mind. They all go in one spot. It's it's telepathy.
It's there. I wonder if there's like a flesh and blood or woo woo
bee group. I bet like some kind of subculture, some kind of sub
like b cult somewhere down there that like says, no they have reminds No,
it's just a little bee dance. It just makes you They've got to
be like fish do it? Fish do the school? Yeah, the high
mind, I mean bees have to have some kind of telepathy. It doesn't.
Maybe it's just like a as simple as like a like telegraph technology.
As far as telepathy goes, just like a little bit of charge like go
this way, go this way right. Well, and I didn't even think
about how Fishwood communities you know they go on it's uh, it's crazy.
The Wackle dance, that Wago dance. Pheromone, Well, what's pheromone?
I mean that's your body putting in something else to smell where it's going.
Yeah. Well I had read that as far as like birds, and I
mean I really did look at both sides of this when I was doing my
research. You know, how they could communicate scientifically accepted and that's that's what
it was saying, was sent. I just I don't know, it's just
I just think there's so much more to it. Yep, it's probably it
probably is so simple that I'm probably overthinking it. Yeah. Actually, Ristol's
talking about vibration being everything, or somebody said, or Lucy oh Candy.
Yeah, yeah, that's what they tell you whenever you try to manifest anything,
is the vibration, the frequency. Well, and that's right. Well,
and when Mike rick Sucker was on, that's what he talked about,
is that we are frequency and vibration, you know, energy, frequency and
vibration. I'm all about manifesting angel members these days. I had. I
had a time here recently and it just stopped in I want to say,
the earlier weeks of December, but every time I looked at a clock or
anything, it was always either eleven, eleven, twelve, twelve, or
twenty two, And to twenty two still comes up pretty frequently for me.
Yeah, that's a good one. That means you're in the right place,
doing the right thing. Oh yeah, yang, I love it here.
So twenty two means you're on the right path, you're in the right place
for your time. My college apartment, everything I had back in the day,
everything come out to one twenty two or twenty two. My college apartment
number was one twenty two. And then uh. And then one day one
of my coworkers quit, which calls which would have caused all the uh the
responsibility after hours to fall on me, and I had like a mild freak
out, and so I just left and went riding around. I ended up
at a building one twenty two, so I was like, Okay, that's
what it is. So I turned back around and went back to work,
and a couple of months later I got the job I have now, which
is amazing. So it all worked out Yeah, you gotta trust it.
You gotta trust them, and you got to research what they are, don't.
Just like I think when people people see four forty four all the time
and things like that, Oh it's an angel number, what does that mean?
But you got to really go a little bit deeper than that. Yeah,
it's all about I mean, every topic that we go over within this
community of people has to be researched. You can't, you know, because
you're going to hear all kinds of things from all different kinds of people,
all different kinds of walks of life. You know, you have to do
your own homework. Do you ever have mediums on that try to cold call
you or cold read you? No? No, actually no. When we
had been sent Jenna on earlier last year, God, that's crazy to say.
Last year anyways, Wayne had told him, you know, if you
see anything or sense anything for either one of us, just let us know.
So, I mean, it's you know, he had told Wayne a
couple of things, and he told me a couple of things. But other
than that, that's really all we have. Yeah. I used to be
really excited to have mediums on. I still have them if I could mind
one. But I just worry because the stuff they give you is the real
I guess people forgot that in the late nineties and early two thousands. That
was a huge scam, the cold reading they got. Chris whatever his name
was, Chris Stewart south Park even made fun of it. Yeah, and
just you start seeing it, and they almost sense the people who are who
are more vulnerable, and they try to like, go after go after them.
It's all going to be okay. I know you're having a rough time,
and they just start crying. They just do it all right, And
I'm like what dude, And they never come to me because I'm sitting there
like what, Yeah, I more than one just passed right over me.
I'm like, I don't have nothing. I've got nothing. Zip. The
loud, boisterous one that's looking like this doesn't get a reading. Yeah.
And I'm not a skeptic. I'm cautious and I'm not a skeptic of stuff.
But when I sense it, I sense it hard, right sure,
and intuition saying now that cold reading, I just I've watched it too many
times. I'm like, oh, that's just too easy. And then yeah,
do it. More than a couple of times and you just turn into
a master of it. You don't even have You can get on YouTube learn
how to do it in the afternoon exactly. And there are so many I
should get off the big foot thing, but there are so many together.
It's all the big foot thing. Well yeah, true, we talk about
dinosaurs, bigfoot dinosaurs. That's a whole other topic too, because of all
the dinosaur bones that they you know, foundaries. Keep going, I got
one for you on the bones. Do what I said, keep going on
what you're saying, I got one for you on the bones. Okay.
Yeah. So there's so many of the psychic mediums on TikTok and a lot
of them like we had Luna and oh my gosh, I forgot his name.
Roland That's what his name was, Nolan that was his name, and
she'll do she'll do the paid readings. But there are so many other ones
who if you if you go on to when you scroll the video, and
it's just like I'm going free readings to whoever I feel like I'm drawn to,
and these rooms are like super full. Mm hmm, that's crazy.
I liked watching it and seeing what happens, but then eventually eventually most of
the time you start hearing that telltale, them trying to make somebody cry,
and that's how they make their money. Mm hmm if they and I had
a few, because I think my building at work is haunted and we've had
a few actual instances. I probably told you about this, but and you
read it in that story the article about they all say children are there,
which could be just a telltale, could be just a go to thing for
unknown. Is everybody scared ghost kids? Yeah, but that's what they all
say, though it's I think it may be that the like they all say,
yeah, there seems to be a lot of kids there. They're friendly.
Whoa yeah, but demons will also come to you in the form of
children, yep, because they want your more vulnerable to childrens. Yeah,
the black eyed kids, that's a different story. They're awful, so awful.
What else was gonna tell you about the the bone thing? It's an
interesting little It came to me one time about how the the what's what's the
big thing that everybody brings up when you bring up his bigfoot? Real?
Where are the bodies? Yeah? But then the only evidence they had that
an eight that may be Bigfoot is real, is a jaw bone of a
gigantipithecus, right, So there's no evidence of this thing they think was the
replacement. And so if one bone in all of human history is all you've
got of what may or may not be this creature, how do you It's
almost like they're barking up the different side of the same tree, like,
oh, yeah, we have it. We've got a jaw bone of it.
It's got to be what big Foot was. But where's the bones of
big Foot? Well, you've got it in your hand, the only one
we have left, right, that you found in a Chinese buffet fifty six
years ago. I mean, it's a lot of science, a lot like
Troy is talking about the Bible and science. A lot of it answers each
other's questions, but everybody's so tied up in the moral part of it that
they forget that it's actually explaining that the wires are explained to each other back
and forth. Yeah, Like I had a guy who is a staunch atheist
tell me a few years ago, like ten or fifteen years ago, that
he hopes that an asteroid destroy's Earth to prove all the Christian strong I said,
dude, the end of that book says there was going to be destroying
fire. I mean, you just answered your question. I mean it's all
there. It's all there, it's straight straight. They don't it's not.
It's not a contradictory. It's the reason, right, it's all. It's
all the same. Like, I don't think that humans evolved, Like,
I don't think that it stood up from a pile of dirt and became us.
I think that we did evolve, and that's the way it works.
That's the way things happen. And I don't think it goes against God to
say we evolved from something. I mean, somebody probably get mad at me,
but well again, you know how it works, all the hate emails.
Yeah, I mean, why why wouldn't Why wouldn't God use evolution to
make things? I mean, he made the Earth four billion years ago.
We could get into that conversation because I'm okay with I'm okay with both of
them. Yeah, my opinion differs from yours, but that is what mine's
the same as yours too, Because I'm okay with any any of them.
I'm not antire pro I'm Catholic, for God's sake. I'm not to Columbus.
I make pancakes on Sunday. I'm just saying I'm okay with it being
an explanation if it is. Yeah, yeah, I don't think it.
I don't think it. I don't think it disproves it is what I'm saying.
Yeah, it's just everything just it's intertwined with each other. But people,
Yes, but people they cherry pick what they want it to be and
what they don't want it to be. And if if somebody had said to
them what I just said to you, I disagree with you, it is
like the world is over you, so take my headphones off. This is
over. I'm okay. If it came out that Earth was six thousand years
old and that's the way it happened, Oh well that makes sense. Mm
hmmm. I mean it's on both sides. I think you're both as interesting.
I know that we we have that the way we measure things is like
take it's like going to Atlanta, stay tuned for more Paranormal Odyssey. And
I'm stealing this from these guys here ricking Bubba. Uh huh. But Bubba
always does this thing about how they measure carbon dating. It's like going to
Atlanta and flipping a twelve eh ruler all the way to Birmingham and saying,
that's how far away it is. That's what carbon dating is. So we
don't know. I mean by the time with the standard deviation of four billion
years could be ten thousand for all we know. Yeah, well, and
it's like time and space. Okay, so a contant we don't know.
Yeah, time is for us what grounds us. But outside of this dimension,
there isn't any time, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
you know, it's not like we can go to the woods and say,
okay, well big Foot's going to be here for dinner, you know,
six point thirty on the nose. They don't know Tom, They don't
grasp having to be somewhere at a certain time. You know. I think
I think if we looked at things maybe in a more primal way, like
they would have to see it. You know. It's like when they brought
up the horse theory, the people going in on horseback instead of cars and
call blastmen. You know, go back to the Native Americans. We may
have a better chance of seeing something. And the best footage we have is
from with a spring loaded camera. Yeah, and everybody's first thing they go
to is that everybody's got a phone in your pocket. Well, everybody's got
a digital recorder in their pocket that can be instantly zapped by anything in that
particular realm. But you start hanging out with a like that the movie Nope,
My Cup's got a Nope on it. I don't know why. It's
sloth. I found it a cabinet. You know how the ending of Nope
is has that spring camera. It's the perfect picture of it. It's like
answering. That's like answering. Patterson gimel on right there. Yeah. Yeah,
But I think if people, you know, and and when I was
looking today, I was looking Native Americans said that they used telepathy with them
all the time. So it's like if you want to get back to your
grassroots with us, you know, And everybody wants to follow kind of the
Native American theories and all this other stuff because they were put on the wall,
they experienced them, you know, but they just want to dismiss everything.
I like that. I like it about the Native Americans big Foot encounters.
It drawled all the same. Yeah, it's all the big red monster
from bugs, money shoulders and maybe a little bumped for a head. I
forgot about that regular where that's what they draw in the caves. It's the
same thing. I don't know if it's not inspired by it. You know
what, this is true. I never thought about that before. It's the
same. It's the dude, Yeah, shave him and he's all hair,
and then he's got the little black and white tennensies on exactly what you're talking
about. Yeah, So how do you feel about the sloaking of big Foot?
What's your opinion on that? Well, I think they can do it.
I've heard. You know, Zeus Pratt has a picture of one doing
it, and so does another fellow, David Parker. His may be less,
but if it's not a big foot standing there, that's kind of in
the cloaking phase. It's the perfect limb formation, right. Because he sent
it to you, I'm like, I'm like, that's crazy because it just
looks I don't know, gossamer. Yeah, it is gossamer. But I
think they can. If they can do any of the other things we talked
about, cloaking is right there with it's in the package. We'll see.
I agree. So some videos I've seen. They almost look like the predator,
you know how the predators like that's what they say. But then if
you yeah, like shimmer faced. But then if you think, okay,
is there something is there something with their hair that allows them to do that
as well? Like their hair and certain ways the sun comes up or the
sun's going down. That's some of the things people talk about with the blurry
photos too, because they have the clear It's like a polar bear. You
know how polar bear's hair is clear, but everybody thinks it's white, Like,
are there are their hair like weird? What's the word mendula? Yeah,
because it doesn't happen. It's the medula. Yeah, that's your shaft.
It doesn't have it. Yeah, it's yeah, And it's clear,
doesn't have that in the middle of it. So that's m h. I
don't know. I mean, I'm I'll go this just like I was talking
about the creationism versus evolution or whatever it is, uh, those two things.
I would be okay if the big Foot turned out to be like a
really specialized animal where they just evolved crazy good stuff and they they could you
know, they had the good man. I can't say mandula, the mandula,
Yeah, Mandulah gotta makes him makes the alligators mad. But like I'd
be okay if that if it was the caves and it was they had cloaking
and they had echo a location, m hmm, make it cool. I
mean, I'm I think one, like the rule of thumb is technology advanced
enough is indistinguishable from magic. And so it's to say that that them evolving
like they did in that completely other direction doesn't make them seem magic to us,
right, because it's just vibration, like Ristol was saying, or Candy
was saying. Yeah, I mean, who's who's to say they didn't just
get really good at it? And that's what we we can't and who's to
say we can't do it because of our calcified pineal glen two hundred years ago?
We could talk to God in a bush? Well, you know.
And I think and it's like we talked about before on Messenger, we have
grown up and been, for lack of better terms, brainwashed to believe a
certain narrative, and when we step out of the bounds of this narrative,
things go sideways. I'm trying to find this picture he sent me. It's
crazy. Well, so try wants to know. Does the metaphysical aspect explain
why there are no bones? Well, here's here's the thing. Now that
we're off the deep end, let's dive all the way in. I was
talking to Jason MacLean. I'm not going to take I'm not taking credit for
this hypothesis slash theory at all. But Jason MacLean, he's a really cool
bigfoot author. I'd look I recommend looking him up. He shows the uh,
the comparison between the faith the fairy in the Bigfoot loreer, how they're
the exact same, how you would knock on wood to appease the faith,
and what's a tree knock knocking on wood? Right? Crap? What was
I talking about? Metaphysical explains no bones? Okay, So when you get
a gift from the fairies, whether it be gold or whatever they give you,
it turns into a leaf or a wood bark on the ground after the
faery goes away, doesn't need it. So what bigfoot bodies they may come
in and use them and then just shed them soon as they leave, turns
into a pile of leaves. That's crazy to think, Like, what if
they don't what if they don't need it. What if they don't have to
take the bodies back they has come in, they summon all the elements like
they just use what's there. They just manifest and they don't have bodies on
either side. And that I mean, but that the fale Agend says,
they just leave it stuff away area of the country. I am from east
side of Manha, just down from the East River. You can tell by
my accent, I'm i uh go jets lies gibbs. These are all fibbs.
I'm from North Alabama. If you can't tell, yeah, But I
never Candy said you're making her think. Yeah. The faith. The faith
thing freaked me out when I heard it because it was just give me these
weird chills. And it could be all the caffeine I drink. But the
stories are the exact same. It's insane. The knock on wood, the
way they hide the uh I'd have to go look at some more. But
the fact that whenever they give you something an offering to use you, it
turns into leaves. See. I never put those two together. M hmm.
I didn't either until he told me. But you you if you he
was reading off all the stuff and he goes, that's not big Foot,
that's faith. But it's a same thing. It was the same thing.
It's the same legend. It's the same thing throughout our history is big Foot
legends and Faye legends. See. I mean, I'm gonna have to look
into that now. Yeah. Now, I'm like super curious about that because
fairies have always been like my favorite thing, Like you have big butt,
and fairies are like so close to big But it's crazy. There's also the
weird phenomenon that he was telling me about that we never knew what that we
nobody ever saw a great alien until they reported it into TV and then everybody
started to seeing them. It's like that, It's like it was like a
tulpa almost right, that that whatever is coming across is fitting what we think
you're supposed to see. That's choice that doctor Barnstak can expland on that.
Well, I'm highly interested. Yeah, I mean, it's it's I was
like flabbergasted, to say the least, what the same things? Yeah,
a lot of sense. Well, I mean, and it would And that
kind of segues into this because I was reading this today and I was like,
I don't know how many people I have heard get on this train.
Okay, I read can they transmigrate appearing as appearing into our existence as something
else? So like if they came in as a snake instead of a sasquatch,
would it be possible for them to do that? And I'm like,
I've never heard anybody say that. Yeah, well, we don't know.
I mean that just might be all those weird little cryptis we see, Yes,
may they may just I mean, what's the dog man? What's a
puck wudgie? Oh my god? Oh I know the little punk wedgies.
I wrote about them. I threw them in my unfamiliar book that I wrote,
the Little I Love the Punk Wedgie. Yeah, I had to include
them, and then a little Sonic the Hedgehog hare. Yes, yeah,
it's uh, there's just a whole big bag. And that's why I was
so excited to come on tonight and just like, you know, I'll just
empty out the whole bag because I'm here for it. Carson. Carson just
spelled it all out right there. They all come to the same place.
Yeah, I mean just I mean, it's it's probably just a whole little
super highway over there. They come over here and mess with us and then
go back. I go over there and get that peanut butter. Man,
they'll be smoking, they'll be smoking their peace pile. I mean, I
could go for a peanut butter and apple right now. Put on it,
put on that monkey soup, and go get that peanut butter and apple.
We'll never believe you, right, nobody they're over there, even daycare snacks.
They chopping up apple, slices of peanut butter. Is always leaving us
lollypops. We can't get nothing healthy. Michelle Obama's pissed off of these these
uh gifting areas. Nothing's ever healthy over give us some carrot sticks. That's
funny. That's why they never come back. They never get anything healthy.
Who is it? Who is it? Matt Fisher, Matt Fisher from Mostly
Ghostly was talking to somebody about getting them hooked on crack. He said,
then you got big foot stealing DVDs and car stereos, trying to get wearing
cargo pants, trying to get trying to get their fix. That's funny.
I don't know how that would be. Yeah, oh it is. It
is just a whole avenue of wild But I think the more, you flesh
it out unless you can think there can be one hundred percent flesh and blood.
That's exactly what I was gonna say. You took the words right out
of my mouth. I think they know you're good. I think I think
it needs to be talked about more, and I think it's a shame that
people don't talk about it. Well, the reason it's not investigated is called
all science is funded by universities. Yeah, and that's the reason. Like
you get people like not that aren't rich, I want to say poor,
but like people like you and me then that have these little groups and associations
and we have Amazon grade equipment. Yeah, and we get evidence. I
mean, you're gonna you you throw your line out there long enough, you're
gonna get some kind of a bite. But we don't have like a super
hidron collider to go to the fourth dimension and actually see one exactly. And
they may have one under area fifty one, like have like a tribe of
bigfooty. They may be able to to summon them in and whenever they want
to, but we don't know. So I think that bigfoot stole my bigfoots
stole my catletic converter. Off my tundra. She's so funny, she's hilarious.
But what I was going to say is, I think, no,
it's never too inappropriate. Amma. You are with friends, so you are
good. But I think you can tell one of these hardcore skeptics on the
WUS, you know, on the science side, until they experienced something on
the woo side. I think it's you know, I've heard they before,
really and they just and they can't say it on TV because it terms it
just ruins their credibility. True, nobody that does anything in depth with them
at any level, that spends any time out there. Thanks, they're just
flesh and blood. Yeah, after a certain amount of time, they say,
we're not saying that they're supernatural, but things happen, and it is
what it is, is what I've heard. So I've been told, like
officially, mm hmm, it is what it is. We can't say it's
not what it does. Things things happen, right exactly. I mean,
listen, look at all the encounters that you hear and have heard. And
then Wayne's done this way longer than I've done this. But I mean just
in the almost six months that I've done this, I mean all the encounters
that we have heard as well. It's like these people and when we did
the psychology of that, that is the first thing that Emma said. She
said, not everybody can be lying about this. It is not you know,
it's not feasible. It's almost like the Apollo. They say, how
many people can cover it up? Yeah, same people say the same thing
about Bigfoot. Yeah, because you gotta think. I mean, it's not
just happening in the US. I mean you got the Yallei and Australia the
yeah up and then is it the year in? And I can't remember what
country that's in? Ye went, but yeah, there every Barnaby Jones knows.
Yeah, that was a good interview you did with Barnaby Jones. Y'all
need to go check out. The guy was a class act. I was
like, why are you on my show? China? Thank you name China?
Yes? The YearIn from China? Yeah. And something got brought up
on the interview you did with Barnaby two about what is it? I can't
think of the name. Is it like backsquatch or like man squatch that flew
around? Could you's watch yaoi Yeddi scoop them Skunk, Grassman, wild Man,
Yahoo Year in Orangependeck, Momo and Harry Man. Yeah Momomo from from
YouTube in twenty sixteen. Momo, I remember that. Yeah, Now,
the flying sasquatch thing was crazy because they saw it land in the field and
it stood there. Where how did that come from? And like why is
that thing now? Wood booger? Yeah, my TikTok had I found.
They call them boogers down here, do they? So Roger and the Woodwalkers
all call him this boogering mm hmm. So where do we go with with
the moth squatch? Now? I think you follow it over there with all
those other weird ones, the elementals. Yeah, it's they're just gonna put
it on the shelf over here. What are you going to do? I
mean, moth Man wherever they're coming from, They just like random little things
can make weird combinations and it's like imagination Land on South Park. So then
you're like, okay, what did they did? How did that even happen?
Like a sasquatch? Was it felling frisky and it hooked up with the
moth women. Maybe it's like a creepy crawler set. They can just choose
their own little they can build their own little costume and see what happens.
Crazy at this point, like they're seeing all the stuff pop up at Skinwalker
Rinch different forms. They seen the table full of of dog men playing poker.
No, yeah, I mean Travis Walton talked, not Walton, Travis
uh Taylor talked about him. Travis Walton, for the record, did not
say anything about those. Just everybody off. Yeah, because then you got
to throw the dogmen in there too, and yeah, a dog men always
vicious, but Bigfoot aren't right exactly. And it's no, it's baffling to
me because I was on a message board yesterday I think it was, and
it was the picture of this tree that was turned upside down and the roof
bar was sticking up. You know, you've seen them, And I was
like, well, I've heard that both big Foot and dog Man do that.
And this girl came on there and she was like, can you explain
to me what a dog man is? I've never heard of it, Like,
why are people? Yeah, she better take off work. No,
I was like yeah, I was like, well, I was like,
there's different variations for everybody that you talk to, so it really depends on
what you talk to. However, they share these similar attributes, so I
listed those, but I was like, otherwise, I don't you know.
Jessica's got key chains with dog men German shepherd were in Afghanistan army battle rattle.
It's pretty cool. Yes, that's a that's her. I think it's
her background. But she gave everybody out key chains at one point. I
think I keep one in my truck as what is that? How you wouldn't
get it? Just look how cool it looks and move on. We're not
going to explain that on the way to lunch at work exactly well, because
that opens a whole nother door, doesn't it? You know, do our
dog men soldiers for? You know? It's just it's something. See my
coworker, her mom is a ghost hunter, and she's experienced stuff with her
mom, including dealing with a demon like in real time. And this this
lady is, this girl is legit. She's she's my age, and she's
not lying about the stuff she saw like you can't just you can't deal with
her ninety numbercent of the time. And then that one time when she's full
of shit, like no, she's real, and people come to us in
our it office and tell us about stuff in their house that happened. I
gave a girl, a lady today, two of my motion sensing catballs because
she said her house was haunted, right, and I said, she said
she took a rifle scope, the fleer from a rifle scope and saw a
man in a closet. Wow. Yeah, we started. We made a
joke and we're gonna start calling our I off as Wraps Redstone Arsenal paranormal Society.
Because people just come down, like they hear they see my wall of
like I keep like magnets people give me and I got Seinfeld and I got
big foot foot prints just random ship. Yeah, and they're like, what
are you guys into this kind of thing? Like yeah, And somebody will
say, yeah, Kate's mom fought of demon in Kentucky? What and it
And it turns into campfire stories at two two am or two pm. That's
hilarious. People will just stay down there. First time the coworkers hear about
that, like at lunch or something, and Kate tells the story, they're
like, are you seriously Yeah, because they knew Kate for like a week,
Like she's not crazy, she's normal, she's a mother, and all
of a sudden, you hear that come out of her mouth, like you
see a little paradigm shift at that little vel. Yeah, it's hilarious.
I live for it. I'm still eating my French fries. Okay, yeah,
you see him changing, watching that paradigm shift like a year in homicidy.
That is so funny. Well, look see the hour has flown by.
Yeah, so but let's save some for part two, and we'll have
mister Wayne come back on when he's not at his basketball game walking back.
Huh, he'll be out of breath walking back from that basketball stadium. It's
way down there in the holler. That's funny. But yeah, I've enjoyed
having you on. And you can tell everybody where they can find you and
get in touch with you if they want to, you know, be on
your show too. Oh yeah, I do a I do one. I
do a couple of shows a week. I think I'm down to I'm only
broadcasting one live a week because I'm trying to get on more shows like this.
But on Sunday nights, i'd usually air one or do a live of
Bobbydizzel dot Com. Uh YouTube, right, there on the website, and
I do iTunes and iHeartRadio and Spotify. It's all there, which reminds me
I need to upload one from this weekend. That's side the point. Yeah,
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until until I have to go to the restroom. That's when the show ends,
right when that coffee hits. Excuse me, this show is over.
I gotta got in the middle of the story to turn my camera off and
I go disappear. I'll be like, I'll be like, I'm like no,
no, no, no, keep talking, keep talking. I might
not be here, but everybody else is here. That'sh It's been fun though.
Thanks for having me on, Yeah, for sure, and I look
forward to having you back on for a part two February twenty fourth. I
know it's it seems a ways away, but as fast as these years and
once go by it'll be here tomorrow, so it could be a part four,
five and six for all we know, you never know, I mean
that's why. Yeah, the next show, that's why we planned it for
a Saturday because we can go over that hour. So oh yeah, not
Papa Top. Thanks Joy. Absolutely, Bristol is one of my regulars.
Yeah, he's a good dude too. We have we have the greatest community,
absolutely greatest. Couldn't ask for a better Nope, but yes, so
I do appreciate you coming on and we will look forward to your party,
all right. Yeah, and Wayne's coming on my show soon too, so
I'll be and I'll be big amalgamation of content. That's exactly right, So
y'all stay tuned for the big amalgamation of content, just a big glob of
stuff. Alrighty, well, we will talk with you later and thank you
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