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The Electrical Show with Thomas Najie sponsored
by Bosh Professional, Powerful power Tools,

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measuring tools and experts accessories. Welcome
to the Electrical Show with Bosch Professional here

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on Fix Radio. I'm your host
Thomas Najie and joining me today in the

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studio is rightly or wrongly one of
my own employees. Jay. Now you've

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heard me talking in the past on
previous shows about hiring sparks, managing sparks

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and actually how how difficult that is. Genuinely, anybody who is who is

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self employed, you know how tough
it is hiring and more more importantly maintaining

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and retaining your own staff. So
we've we've got Jay in a studio today.

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Yeah, I mean this could go
one or two ways this and I'm

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not sure. I'm open and I'm
open to you know, negative constructive,

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negative critique. Yeah, you can
hear the nervousness in my voice. I'm

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going to be asking Jay what it's
like working for me, and we're going

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to touch on his experiences in the
trade as well. The Electrical Show on

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Fixed Radio. You're listening to The
Electrical Show with Bosh Professional and Thomas Najie

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and joined with me today in the
studio an employee of mine. Jay,

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He is here to talk about what
it's like working for me. Now,

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before you will put your trials down
and think this is staged, I can

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assure you we have. We genuinely
spoke. We've spoken briefly, haven't we?

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What about coming about this? But
I don't know one hundred percent.

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I don't know what your answers are
going to have no knowledge of you call

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me about half nine last night to
see, yeah, do I fancy that?

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Yeah? So I have no knowledge
of what we're going to do.

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I know roughly what we're going to
talk about, but what your answers are

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going to be, I don't know. So, just for the just for

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the listener, how did you come
to work for me? Just explain how

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that unfolded. I was literally just
watching one of your videos on YouTube,

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slurking my water really hard, and
I thought I'll give it a go,

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and I think you're an email And
the next day we had a chat,

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the day after another chat, and
then I came and then we came down

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to the offices, did a couple
of days, a couple of days,

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and then and that was it.
Yeah, I started that was pretty much

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it. Yeah, what were your
What was the reason you wanted to find

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new work because you were we can't
say the name, but you were working

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for a big, big outfit.
Well, I was a spread and I

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was getting complete sick of it.
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But I always wanted to be a
sparky, but I was told be

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a spread. Okay, somebody,
actually, I know. One of the

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reasons we took you on was because
you had a bit of multi trade experience,

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which is handy. It was definitely
one of the things that shone in

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your favor because you were you had
the ability you could just throw yourself.

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You have a few tricky you had
you had that was genuine. That was

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one of the reasons why me and
Sarah were talking about hiring you. It

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was one of the things that really
stood in your favor because you have the

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ability you can just throw it.
It's great to have a spark, but

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if you've got somebody who can just
throw themselves and do a bit of anything,

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yes, your bulk is being a
spark, but if you can throw

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yourself a bit of anything, it
really is. And you're absolutely right,

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You've got us out of a couple
of scrapes before already. So when did

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you feel that you were an I
say the word accepted member, because everyone

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when they started a job, they
always feel like a sort of the new

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fish. When did you feel like
an accepted member? I mean maybe you

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still don't. Maybe I think we've
gone past that though. Yeah. Probably

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when I got invited to Scoot a
night, Scoot a night, that was

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a big thing. Yeah, Scoot
every Thursday is Scoot at night, So

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that was that was an important effect. A week or two later and yeah,

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I didn't go, but you've never
been invited since. Yeah, all

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right, Well let's talk about,
probably more importantly, what I'm like as

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as a boss next, and that's
I guess what, I guess Everyone's way

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for the Electrical Show with Thomas Nagi
on fixed Radio, the Builders Station,

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Thomas Nagie And on today's electrical show, I've been joined by one of my

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employees, Jay, and we're going
to find out what it's like working for

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me. So let's get it out. Let's get it over with. To

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be honest, what's it like.
You're actually a top guy to work for?

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You have your moments, I'll pay
you outside separately but no, you

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have your moments, but obviously you've
got stress, you've got issues keeping a

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company. Like I was going it
is, I know, I know what

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you mean. I have moments,
So define moments for people. Let's let's

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get in defined moments. Well,
I know you, I'm okay, I

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don't mind. I can tell when
Tom's in a mood by the way he

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gets out the van and I will
say he's in the mood and everyone's like,

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how do you know? I was
like, I can tell, I

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can tell, and everyone's like,
how do you know this? That's really

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I actually didn't know that. I
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have levels of silence because normally I'm
actually quite acquired level though when I'm super

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silent when wrong. Yeah, yeah, But in Jay's de fact, he's

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actually quite good at getting me back
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harmony. Is it because of the
random questions or my just complete nonsense I

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talk? Normally? It's the nonsense
that you talk. Yeah, And I've

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learned that you come out and you
just sort of say you're feeling all right,

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just because I find I feel like
if you get out, if there

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is something in the air, just
say it and then we all know.

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Right, let's leave you alone for
like an hour. To be fair,

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it's normally nothing that you guys have
done. It's normally like an email from

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a client that's just really aggravated me, or just any any number of things.

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Generally it's nothing to do with you
guys, as I mean, sometimes

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it is. But normally if it
is, like we talk about normably,

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will talk about it separately. So
it's not do you know what I mean?

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So normally if it's if there's an
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of thing. Yeah, but yeah, as soon as you pull up to

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the office in the morning, the
way you get out because I'm always first,

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Tom's never first, by the way
people i'm there. That is that

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is your good That is one of
your shining good qualities that you are.

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I mean, you're your timekeeping its
spot on. Well, if you're if

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you're early, you're late. Yeah, what what's your perception of sort of

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because it's you came from a big
company and you come down to a small

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outfit, so what's your perception of
Like it must have changed your your perception

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of the employer employee dynamic and how
that works because like I said, you

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came from a huge company. Well, yeah, I've worked for a few

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big companies and they don't care about
the workers coming here. Totally different.

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You care you always. It's more
personally. I think I know a lot

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about your personal life. You know
a lot about my personally. That's the

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thing, isn't it. With big
companies you kind of lose that, don't

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know, if if something happens,
you'll just go look, yeah it's fine,

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dude, this or you know the
swings and roundabouts. Really that's the

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thing. Yeah, it's there's a
lot of swings and roundabouts in what we

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do. Because that was the conversation
that we've had, Like with contracts and

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stuff like, because forever I've we've
spoken about contracts on the on the show,

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in past shows and stuff, and
your contract. You have a contract,

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but there's also like a working contract, like a verbal contract, which

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is separate, you know, and
you just build that through being here.

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You just build that through just of
course. But I think there's also a

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mutual respect between us two where's yeah, that's basically you know, I work

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my socks off. You can you
can laugh and say yeah. But then

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also like if I go can I
leave an hour early? Be like,

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and I say okay through christ teeth. Yeah, yeah, it's because I

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don't leave early anyway. We've just
had we just had trackers installed and all

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the company big he knows where I'm
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on all the company vehicles, right, and it's got this really cool app

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and it measures your acceleration and breaking. You shouldn't give me a nice pickup

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truck that's been remapped and it's very
fun, Richard, Right, Jay,

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harsh breaking zero? Okay, except
it was harsh breaking, wasn't it?

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It literally zero, couldn't get lower, it was cornering. Was like,

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yeah, well, look after some
music, let's let's talk about your experiences

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in the trade as an employee rather
than in my position of the boss.

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And that's it's a perspective we've never
really had on the show before. So

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let's get let's do that next.
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This is the Electrical Show with Bosh
Professional Fantastic Outfit Bosh. We love them

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here on the show. I'm Thomas
Nagie. If you've just tuned in,

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you a little late, but don't
worry. We are joined in a studio

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today by one of my employees,
Jay, and he's here to share his

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experiences working with me. Now,
Jay, you've you've seen, like I

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say, you've come from a big
outfit, you've come to a small outfit

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like mine, and you've seen that
dynamic shift of going from a big outfit

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to a small outfit, and you've
seen the stress because like you say,

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I'm a grumpy bugger. So and
it is true. I don't deny it,

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not all the time, a few
days a month, where a few

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days a week. At what's your
aspects of working for yourself though, because

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that is one problem I do find
is that people end up working for themselves,

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which is great, but it's bad. If I want to retain stuff

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I have thought about this, I
wouldn't do it just yet, just because

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I see how we much stress it
causes you. There's a lot of stress

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and I'm too young for that.
Yeah, it is a I don't know,

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it's it's a lot of stress.
But like I think, if you've

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got we've got more work now than
we've ever had. But it's definitely like

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last week where you just basically dealt
with that whole week because I was doing

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other work. That was definitely easier
because you just took you took an entire

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week's worth of jobs and you just
basically just you just got on with it

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and just made it happen. At
the end of the week, we had

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a load of stations or with fire
alarm systems all working. So that for

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me is definitely what makes my life
less stressful and then you get a less

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grumpy boss. Yeah. Well,
no, I do enjoy it, but

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I was a stressful week, a
long week. Yeah, we've had it.

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It's at the end of the month, so government budgets. People are

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going to submit their books and stuff
and we've got work we have to finish

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their last The last sort of two
weeks has been like half five towards eight

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o'clock, it's been there's a long
day. Yeah, So when I sit

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here and I look like a chew
topee on camera, that's why other aspects

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of this job that you enjoy more
than others. No, to be honest,

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I like it all because it makes
me use my brain. It's not

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like you just do the same thing
inside day inside every day. It's just

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something it's always different. Yeah,
Like even if we're doing what we were

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doing yesterday and you can see it
doesn't go right and you'll be waiting a

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two hours for something to Yea.
The highways work that we do is quite

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fun though, isn't it. That's
good. It's good laughing, it's a

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good crack. It's public. Just
yeah, there's a lot. Yeah,

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I think you hate me in public. I do hate you in public because

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you have zero filter, yes,
literally less than filter. Yeah, but

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I do. I do enjoy all
aspects. If I had to say what

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I love the most, I do
enjoy doing a board change. I really

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do enjoy them because you just get
left alone. You can do it how

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you want to do it, and
just get on with that and get on

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with it, and at the end
of the day you're like, wow,

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I've done that. What bit do
you not enjoy um? Working with me?

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No? No, No. The
drive sometimes, I've always been driving

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for work and it's just when you're
driving two hours somewhere for a job,

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yeah, and you get stuck on
you in twenty five going on the way

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home, You're like, yeah,
a lot of our work is out in

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Essex, and that it does.
I mean normally we meet at the unit

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at like quarter past half past six. I mean he says he's there first.

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Always it's not always true, all
right, okay, but normally we'll

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drive out there and do you know
what, not always true? You do

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not fill up my fixing tray,
right? That is that we're dealing with

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that. I don't care what's on
this memo sheet in front of us.

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Right, we've all got fixing trays, right, because I ah, mate,

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this just annoys me so much.
Right, we've all got fixing trades.

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We use those Sawtomo cases and they've
got a lot that you can put

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all the little screws in your nutsy
boltsy washers and all that sort of stuff.

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You've done it once, right mate? How does it work mate?

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You? Oh my god, you
turn out to a job. Mate.

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I opened your fixing tray the other
day, Mate, I literally almost I

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almost passed out. There was just
there was nothing in it. I'm also

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blaming Richard for that because he kept
taking all my bits. To be fair,

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Richard doesn't even have toolbags. Yeah, it's kind of I don't know.

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I'm trying. I'm working on Richard. It's a slow It comes to

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work with a test goes carrier bag
I'm working on him, but grow fixed

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tools. It's a hard road to
hold this one, but I'm working on

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it. But I just all I'm
saying, is it. Look if you've

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got a case and all of you
nuts and bot I know everyone's thinking,

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I'm sad. I don't care nineteen
years of doing this. If you just

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turn up with a case and you've
got your one and half in shapes,

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your red plugs, your washes,
your spring washers, and they're all nice

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and neatly, you open the case
and they're all beautifully they're presented, it

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does make your life easier. You're
right, You're right, but you don't

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always fill it up like you say. It's not my responsibility to fill it

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up, but I have fit to
you number of times. Can we order

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a load of bits in and then
we can peel off my face and terror

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it's confetti. He's only being like
this because he knows I'm I'm killing the

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truth. May you're listening to I'm
still literally listen to fixed radio to build

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a station, get set in the
morning. The Electrical Shower with Thomas Naji.

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I'm Thomas Nagie bringing home another electrical
show to an end where I've talked

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to Jay, one of my employees, about what it's like working for me

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and my company, and despite the
fixings, tray grievances, we're we're all

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good. Jay, just a final
word, what give us? Give us

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a score? Go on, give
us a score out of ten and saying

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I can give us a score out
of ten and something you'd like to see

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me improve on. Um, I'm
not going to give you a ten out

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of ten because then you won't improve
or anything. So I'll say, oh,

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I'm going to give you a ten. I'll give you an eight out

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of ten. I'll give you an
eight out of ten, but one thing

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you genuinely like to see me improve
on the way you talk to your fans.

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Wow, because you get very nervous, and I have to deal with

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it right, okay in person.
Okay, I have to deal with it

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right when you're there, because you
get very Yeah, you have to do

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with that, mate. I can't
hope with it. I can't change it.

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You just be like what I mate, Yeah, I can't cope with

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it. Yeah, Yeah, you
get very nervous. It's not that it's

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just when people meet you, right
that. We had that guy the other

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day, totally cool, totally chill, happy to talk to them. But

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some people just literally just they just
sit there and what they just and I'm

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like, what, I'm I supposed
to stay back? I don't know.

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I've said hi, I've said how
are you doing, I've said are you

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all right? I don't know.
I'm not like you all right? Well,

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look you, I genuinely I would
also give you. I'd give you

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also a nice steady aid happily can
I improve on? What can you improve

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on? You're fixings tray? I
would love you. I would the day

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you have a fixing tray where everything
is beautifully presented and the back of your

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pickup is exactly the same. Mate. That's that's a Paul Hollywood handshake right

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there. Every day. Honestly,
I don't mean anything because I know you

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want cash, but yeah, yeah, that's a Nargie handshake. Yeah,

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handshaker. On the readies, you
can hear the show again from ten o'clock

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tonight here on fixed Radio. This
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