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death experience is one of the best examples of a black light experience I have
encountered. With extraordinary clarity. She describes what it's like to be in that
loving place and come out to meet a being of light. Welcome to the
Afterlife Files, where we investigate near death experiences, share death experiences and how
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a heads up on what to look for in our conversation, and then after
the interviews stick around. We'll help you make sense of those accounts so you
can incorporate the insights into your life. I think you'll find that once having
your most profound questions answered, living life in the physical is with more peace
and joy. There are six things I'd like you to watch for during this
interview. First, notice how the universe strengthens Felice's resiliency before subjecting her to
an NDE. Second, at several points, Felice experiences by location, the
ability for her consciousness to be in two places at once. Third, even
though it was a horrific accident, she was assured by the voice that all
is truly well. Fourth, how that voice has stayed with her in different
forms since the accident. Fifth, the gifts from the being of light,
and six a major learning for her is how to stop being small and live
big. And I don't mean personality big, but big in the sense of
being in alignment with her life's path. Lastly, be sure to stick around
after the interview because I'll detail the elements of her black light experience, one
of the most elaborated and complete I've ever run across. With all that I
know, you can't wait to hear our interview with Felice di Martino. Welcome
Felice Boy. Are we glad that you're here today? Thank you? Like
guys, you have such an interesting story, So why don't we just start
with that? So what what led up to it? And then dive in.
So a few years before the accident, I was in a period of
my life I call resiliency boot camp, and a lot of things happened in
a very short period of time. My then partner had an affair, so
I was moving through infidelity. My second daughter left to go to college.
So I became an empty nester. I fell skiing. And this has to
do with identity, right, like my was stripped aways a partner as a
mom. That changed. I was an avid ski or a cyclist. And
I had a surgery. My house had a fire. Then oh yeah,
and then as if that wasn't enough, Oh, before the fire, there
was a theft, a major theft of all my jewelry that I had that
I had owned and family heirlooms. Then came the fire. Then once the
top floor was gutted and renovated, the bottom how to flood. So it
was a series of events. Needless to say, I took a leave of
absence from work. Yeah, this is like this is biblical proportions kind of
step where they're locusts and you think, wow, yeah, And and I
took a leave of absence from work too. You know, I was like,
really, another thing and another thing, And I stopped saying this could
be worse because I felt like I was broadcasting that and I didn't want to
invite worse happen. Oh really, here you go. So so that all
happened in a period of about fifteen to eighteen months, and just as I
got my sense of self back, I returned to work. I had done
a lot of different kind of therapies and modalities. You know, I was
like in just navigating the past eighteen months. And I was at work one
day. I was a teacher in a monastery school, and I was at
work. And on December second of twenty fifteen, I left work to walk
to my car, which was parked off of campus at the school near the
school, and I was distracted by a conversation I had had engaging with someone
that I knew I shouldn't be engaging with. And I didn't listen to that
inner voice, and I was put my phone away, and I said,
you know what, I'm just going to do what's good for me. I've
learned all of this up to this point. And I got to the corner.
The light turned read I waited for the right of way to cross,
and I proceeded to cross the street, and about three quarters of the way,
as I was across the street, a big pickup truck came up from
behind me and made a left hand turn. It turns out she was trying
to get ahead of the oncoming car, like make a left hand turn before
that car approached, and she made a left hand turn and hit me and
struck the right side of my brody and propelled me thirty feet and in the
air. And it turns out two and a half car lance from the crosswalk,
So that's what happened in that situation, and keep going, this is
great. So she hit me, and I have this vague remembrance of whipping
my head around to the right, you know, in reaction, although in
the moment it seemed like time had stopped and it was like in frames almost
of this slow motion, and there was a brief moment of eye contact,
and then I was above my body, and I was above my body,
and I was looking down at the scene as if with a bird's eye view,
and there was like a spotlight almost that was focused on what was happening
below, even though in my periphery there was a sense of expansion, it
was unlimited. And I was looking down and there was a type of assessing
that was going on of my body laying in the road, and it looked
like a chop drawing. And I remember here first I was I was a
little like jolted, right, I was a little disoriented, yet I wasn't,
you know, to give words to the feeling that I felt when I
was out looking down. It was more like this, this like whoa adopting
and adjusting, And and then I had this sense of assessment. And I
heard the woman who hit me say that she'd call nine one one, And
I saw with this sense of vision that's other than how we perceived seeing the
man direct There was a man. There were three people. There was a
man that directed one of the other woman to go to the cross street that
the woman had just came from to direct the cars. And so I was
seeing this in a multi dimensional like I had. I was able to see
and hear and feel the panic in a very detached kind of a way,
with sense with amplified senses and senses other than my eyes and ears, which
was impossible because I was lying on the road looking to the left, and
in assessing it looked like my body my body was in one piece. And
there was a wondering of if I would be able to go back to it,
and I had a sense that I would be able to. There was
a sense that it wasn't a knowing, there was a sense that it was
I could go back, and the next thing that happened is I was further
up above and it turned into complete blackness. And in the blackness, it
felt like I was in a cocoon, almost floating, and it was calm,
it was peaceful, it was nurturing, it was warm, and out
of the periphery, I sensed that there were other beings, other people actually
floating in their own cocoons, although I couldn't quite see it. I could
barely make that out with my peripheral vision. And it was like a holding
places of sorts. And it was blackness, but not like have like scary
blackness. It was blackness that felt illuminated almost, if I can again,
I'm trying to give worse to this as I I practice giving words to something
that's so hard to give words to. So there was this blackness that expanded
and far off, as far off as and as far off as could be,
and even further. And in that state of being, it was pure
presence in a now moment. It was like all of time collapsed and expanded
at the same time, and it was pure nothingness and pure everythingness almost,
but more of a sense of like this baciousness in a now moment, and
I was in that place and it just was like there was no attachment,
There was no wanting, there was no yearning, There was just being.
And out of that came a wondering. And we would attribute the word thought,
but it was like it was like energy that formed into a into a
curiosity or into a wondering of mhmm, you know where where am I?
Is there more? And immediately or not not even is there more? Is
there? Something else? Is there? Is this? It? Is there
something else? And as soon as those again we like those that thought form
made up of energy that was really like this emergence of this wondering came,
I was in another place entirely in response to that wondering and it was instant
and there was and I don't know whether I went there or whether it came
to me or whether I emerged. There was an opening up of this pure
white like crystalline clear, the purest of purest of purest white light. I
want to say that was also clear at the same time. And there this
was coming from a presence that was other than my own that I knew was
there for me to communicate with me and with the part of me that was
eternal and in communion with this light, with this presence. It was as
if it was it was as if you put your head to another person's forehead
and you can know and understand and see everything about who they are in totality
and everything about their soul's journey. It was like that, And I was
able to see and know and understand with senses that we don't have names for,
with senses beyond these senses, these multidimensional senses, all in union as
one thing. They weren't like separate senses. It just all worked together to
know and understand everything that was happening on earth about my life at that moment
in time. And I was able to see and understand and know kind of
how I had gotten to that this point, or something about my soul's imprint
in in in having the experiences that I was having, And at some point
a lot of information went through and at some point there was a sense of
urgency to get back to my body. And the urgency wasn't it wasn't like
mental thinking. It was like energy that that kind of came up that kind
of culminated in this sense of going back of it was time to go back
and I remember assuring this presence that was in communion with the part of me
that it was communicating with, that I would remember everything that was shared.
And I also assured myself in that state that I would remember everything that was
shared. And at some point when I asked who this presence was, and
it says, I am you. I am you, And I heard before
I came back, I heard from this presence other than my own, that
was in communion with that place in me. When you go back, it's
time to live big. It's time to live big. And I came back
into my body, but on the way it felt like I was coming down
and it started to get more dense and more dense and more dense, and
I was about I don't know, six inches to a foot outside of my
body, and I could feel the expansion, and I could also feel it
was like being sucked into a vacuum. It was like a genie being squeezed
into a bottle, even though I was still outside of myself, and I
remember hearing yelping sounds and screaming sounds from the body that was also identified as
me from me, yet I didn't feel anything, and I remember in my
consciousness knowing and saying, oh, that's coming from my breathing form, like
that's coming from me. And I was in the ambulance and I saw what
was going on while I was in it, like I could see clearly.
There was someone standing at my head. There was a man stand not standing,
sitting at my head in the ambulance, and there was another gentleman aside,
and he was squeezing my head. My head had lots of blood coming
from it, and they didn't know where the blood was coming from. And
he was standing at my head. And I saw it, and I and
I yet I was in it too, and I remember hearing the sirens and
saying, oh, saying in my consciousness, oh, those sirens are for
me, just like that. And I was in and out, and I
remember I was watching and also participating, like they were asking me questions,
and I was. I saw my mouth moving and saying something. Yet I
was in both places. I was, I was in. I was in
all of it. And when I came fully well more fully too, I
was being taken out of the ambulance into the trauma unit of a hospital and
they took me to a different hospital that had a level one trauma unit and
it was organized chaos and it was yeah. And also one other thing that
I remember, and it's been really helpful. I didn't know what this was
called. I didn't know anything about it until I watched one of your podcasts
was yeah, thank you. When I was out of my body, I
saw myself. I saw someone like up at my face asking me questions or
or getting me to respond. They wanted to know if I were responsive,
and I saw my mouth moving and I remember hearing what I was saying.
Yet I was watching it all at the same time, so I never really
knew about by location until I mean, I knew that I was excuse me
one part. I was purely that and I was completely motionless, and I
didn't know that I was bleeding out from my pelvis, or that my sacrum
was fractured, or that there was internal bleeding like I you know, that
my head was bleeding. I had no idea from from the vantage point I
was at. I couldn't. I didn't know that. I just saw myself
as a human in one piece. So that's what happened. Oh, dear
and wonderful and all of that at the same time. Yeah, Yeah,
I mean, there are other things that were imparted and other things that were
said. I heard all is truly well, and that continued to come.
I heard that after I got back, like there was still this connection of
kind of being in a whole nother frequency, a whole other vibration. And
so you're talking about when when you were back, like in the hospital,
you were in your physical body, but you were still connected and heard yea
and heard the voice the voice I the voice I continued to hear and yeah,
yeah, And how long did you continue to hear that voice? Well,
Scott's it was really really, really really strong for for a good year
or so after the incident, you know. I mean I had a broken
pelvis, I had a broken fractured sacrum. I had staples in my head,
I had an internal bleeding of my organs, I had swelling. There
was a lot going on physically, so I had a lot of time and
I had a traumatic brain injury, and there was a lot of time to
sit and just be. I mean I couldn't really do anything else right,
and I mean I could, I was Yeah. So so I would say
about a year, a year and a half, two years, and I
still like there there, I'm able to go in and attune to and tap
in and open up to connect in with that presence. Yeah, it hasn't
left. I mean it's yeah, and I'm assuming that it told you things
other than all as well. Yes, it when you know, there's a
lot in terms of understanding. There was an understanding in that when when everything
was being downloaded or upload or transmitted, there was an understanding of what is
it that keeps us not coming from that truest, most highest place that I
am presence, that spark of divinity inside all of us? So why is
it that we don't live big? So I was shown this in multiple ways,
all working together. What keeps us from from living big and playing small?
What role does the ego have? What role does compassion and love and
faith and acceptance and surrender and gratitude and boundaries have? So all of that
was a part of it. There was a lot in there, and it
was like at this time, there's no time there, right, So it
was like there's so much information contained within whatever human time would attribute to it.
There was like all this information is just like that and you just know
it. Does that make sense? Oh? Yeah, yeah, we call
that gestalt that it's just that you just or Bob Monroe used to talk about
thought balls, it's like boom, you get the whole concept just that quick,
right, Yeah. And you know, for me, it was like,
it's kind of like when you have an Aha moment times a trillion,
right, because you understand it and you know it based on who the essence
of who you truly are, which is this spiritual this soul and this expression
of the Divine through us, right, And you know, as interesting,
I learned a lot of times people come back like we had talked before this
and don't have boundaries, whereas I learned about having boundaries because I didn't before.
You know, I think I just saw the divine and everyone. I
saw the light in everyone. Despite going through all this stuff, I was
like, oh, related to people. You know, ram Das has a
saying that we are conditioned to treat people as who they're being, not as
the essence of who they truly are. And I feel for some people and
I was one of them. I was treating people as the essence of who
they truly are and not paying attention to who they were being, as if
that wasn't spiritual, right, And it's a both end. You can acknowledge
it's both end. You acknowledge it and you pay attention. So back to
one of your insights, why do we live small? Okay, how do
we get to be living bigger? Well, first, I want to say
that living big can doesn't mean like oh right. It could be the simplest,
seeming simple acting in accordance and alignment with that inner knowing. And oftentimes
we know it's good for us to eat, we know it's good for us
to who, it's good for us to engage with. It's like or we
know we want to go take a walk, and we don't because the mind
has a million and the ego has a million reasons why not to do that
thing. So I say, you know, anytime you do something that feel
that's in alignment with your yes, that's living big right, And we play
small because you know, this is how we're biologically and physiologically wired for certain
things. And when there's a perceived threat of abandonment, of not being safe,
of being judged of because we want to have the sense of belonging,
of not being loved, we don't live big. We act out of fear
and we end up playing small. So a lot of it has to do
with fear, A lot of it has to do with the voice of the
ego, which the ego is important, right. The ego is there for
a reason. It has a role. It's not like, oh, the
ego is all bad. It keeps us safe and functioning as humans in the
world. And it could also get in the way of what we know that
we know that we know that we know, yet we don't pay attention.
Does that make sense? I hope this makes sense. And in this voice
was counseling and what we have to do to release what's holding us back?
Well, what it's it is? It showed me in my life what was
going on in that moment, which is akin to the human experience that humans
come in with. What exactly it is that keeps us playing small? And
it's that fear. It's that fear that's oftentime based in a story we make
up or a legitimate trauma that we've had in our life and we continue.
It's like a habituated pattern. It's so complicated, right, because it embeds
itself into our nervous system. So it's really self awareness, right, like,
oh, self awareness of when we are playing small instead of playing big,
and it starts there. So, yes, it gave me a lot
of insights and I'm now starting to formulate the words, you know, integrating
the experiencing and formulating the words to give to all of the knowings that were
imparted. I think that's important that the knowings were imparted in something other than
English. They were it's an idea that you understood, not necessarily in the
linear language kind of way. Yeah, it wasn't yes, that and it
what it's like, It wasn't even ideas as it was like energy and remembering.
It's like, it's the remembering, right, we are all we have
this spiritual amnesia that we walk around in, right. I mean you look
at little kids. Little kids are so connected because they don't they're not mired
and have all that stuff piled up on top of them that they didn't have
to yet, right, So it's that return. It was like it's like
igniting the remembering. It was it was that and like oh, you know,
and understanding and bring attention to why we don't listen to the our knowing,
why we don't take the actions that we're drawn to take, why we
make up have reasons and excuses for why we can't or shouldn't do the thing
that we're being called to do. So it has to do with all of
that. And I'm just now really practicing giving words to something that was imparted
in a wordless way, and that's difficult. I you're doing great, So
thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. So what do
you do? What is is your method of remembering? How do you touch
base again with that that energy or with the voice. So meditation is huge,
right, getting to a place of stillness, and you know, it's
it's been, it's been a journey for me just if I could to be
embodied right to be I tend to like it's easy to go out, coming
back in and staying grounded. Right for me, I looked to my body
to give me information, which I've been guided to do from a mutual from
one of someone we both know, right, And I've been guided to really
pay attention to my body. What is my body telling me? And get
So there's that and getting out of the analytical mind and into it's like turning
off, turning off the monkey mind, right, and being fully present and
connected and awareness self awareness also of the choice of making a choice to make
a different choice in certain situations. For me, it's very easy for me
personally to go and be in meditation, and I think, you know,
it's building a muscle through these different practices to access and to be open to
the voice, that voice that's outside of us, yet that's also connected that
it's not really outside of us. It's the voice of our inner knowing.
It's like that presence was connected with my own inner knowing, with our own
spark, with our own divinity, that place where we're all in union.
So it's a practice to come back to that place. It's a practice of
its self awareness, right It's and transformational experiences and transcendent experiences could give us
glimpses of, oh, of what that feels like. And then the work
is how to bring that back in and be it and act it and and
and and walk and be from that knowing. Right that's I and I'm still
getting those it's a practice. It's a constant practice. So what has happened
to your life and community since you've had your and E. What I find
is when I'm around people who have had tran these experiences, it's kind of
like a coming home and to be in community with others who understand the experiences
in a way that words aren't needed has been very comforting for me and kind
of like a grounding point. And in coming back, I also know,
you know, the work and the service is to be able to share from
this place, to help guide people to access to remember, to access the
essence, to listen to that voice of the soul. And my communities.
You know, I have my community, I have different communities, and and
I've learned to be able. Yeah, do your daughters did they recognize you
when you came back? Yeah? I think actually what happened was when I
came back, you know, I have some I have people that I could
talk to about all of the things and entering to portals and like I just
so I have some people I could could do that with. And for my
daughters and my family, there's been such a love and acceptance and curiosity and
I feel you know, my dad passed in March, and it really helped
me having had this experience, really helped my mom through it, you know,
and also really helped facilitating that journey for my dad in the knowing of
what I experienced, and you know, What I do find is that the
things that I was, and this happens to all people, I believe,
as they go through their own spiritual awakening and as we're raising the vibration and
the consciousness on the planet is things and relationships and energies. There are certain
things I just can't tolerate, right, It's just it, you know,
it's just it doesn't work for me. Or so the voice that you communed
with for a year, what would be another one of those lessons that you
came out of that conversation with that was like, this is really a big
deal. Oh my gosh, I have I have journals upon journals upon journals
of because it happens at like three am. Now I wake up. I'm
like, you know, and I mean literally journals. So I'm actually in
the process of going through all of this information, and you know, I
am putting myself in a state where I can channel information and it's not necessarily
from that specific presence, it's it's channeling from these vibrational frequencies. I know
that could sound super out there, and I do believe that, and I
know I'm going off on a tangent. I do believe that we all,
all people have the capability to tap in to listen. So there have been
aha moments. I'm looking at my my I'm writing a book right now,
so I have all of my key points right here, which is helpful for
me with a brain injury too, because yeah, because retaining information nation yet
in word language, you know. The other thing that the experience of we
are so much bigger than our bodies, and the experience of being in the
both and of being spiritual beings, having a human experience, being human beings
having spiritual experiences, being spiritual beings having spiritual experiences, and being human beings
having a human experience. We're all of those things right now, right and
I've been really guided to kind of integrate all of them while I'm here right
now on this planet, because like I said, it's easier to go out.
So one of the big things for me that I've been guided two is
practicing. And this is not necessarily from that that presence. It's it's a
practice, you know, practicing living and being from I call it from the
NA must stay, right, we say in meditation or in yoga, and
many people have heard the expression NA must stay. The light in me honors
the light in you. Right, the light and the divinity in me sees
and honors acknowledges that in you. Imagine if we all walked around like that
all the time, it would be a different world. And we can do
that and practice that like practice that at the supermarket, practice that wherever it
is, and interacting with different people. We can return and practice that in
each moment right noticing oh, I'm going into judgment again. Noticing self awareness
is the first step and also acknowledging what is true. You know, I
mentioned before before we spoke about spiritual bypassing right and toxic positivity. So one
thing I learned about strongly when I was in all this stuff that led up
to my accident and in coming back was yes, I've had this the ultimate
of experiences, and having this experience that confirmed in my knowing in the deepest
plate of place of me that remembering right, it's like now and embodied in
every cell and particle in me. And life is hard sometimes and things happen,
and it doesn't feel like all is well. Always yes, and some
cosmic level all is well. But in the moment when you're moving through something
difficult, that's very real for you, and we have to acknowledge that and
not move around that because that stuff gets lodged and stuck in the body and
in our nervous system and affects us. And to not pretend that it doesn't
exist. I think that's that's the danger that can be. I don't want
to say the danger, but we have to live in all of it.
So I've had a lot of guidance through that, and I think that's a
wonderful place to wrap this up, that we have. We have this ability
to participate in the all there is and we get to live here in the
physical world all at the same time, and that balance becomes the dance,
becomes the challenge becomes the art of living. Oh that was beautifully said.
So thank you, Felice. Before we go, please tell people how they
can get a hold of you and find out about your work. So my
website is www dot grounded illumination dot com and I have a bit about what
my story there and the work that I do rounded illumination dot com. Yeah,
thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, Felice.
This has been just a wonderful interview. For those of you that are watching,
stay tuned. Because we have part two coming up. How about that
blacklight experience remarkable? Right? And why do I say that? Well,
just to be clear, these are my viewpoint, but that's why you watch
the Afterlife files to gain perspective by using more than one lens with which to
view this rich information. There are four elements of a black light experience.
They are color, feeling, presence, and contradictions. The color, that's
easy, it was black, but the feeling of the blackness is important.
It was calm and peaceful. Police felt held as if in a cocoon.
Other black light experiencers, in describing this often use this gesture to convey what
it feels like. This feeling was further supplemented with the words warm and nurturing.
Then there is presence. This is so hard to talk about that she
went at it twice. First off, she said, quote it was a
pure presence in a now moment, and then she went back at it again
later and said there was no attachment, there was no wanting, there was
no yearning, there was just being. This is huge, and Felice gets
credit for putting words to the experience of being one with the black light,
being one with the I am nature of God, of not having a sense
of self separate from the oneness of the universe. Then out of that blackness
came an energy that coalesced into a wondering and then finally a question. Is
there more? The moment she could form the idea of a question, there
was a separation from the one. Then it it was possible to experience more,
and in her case, that was a being of light. And finally,
did you notice the contradictions? This is a particular signature of the black
light. Felice was held in a place of darkness, yet it was illuminated.
Felice was closely held, yet the space expanded off as far as could
be and even further. All time collapse and expanded at the same time.
It was pure nothingness and pure everythingness. This is an extraordinary description of the
black light. Other near death experiencers have called this place source where all things
exists in potential. It is where all things physical are birthed. These same
near death experiencers described the black light as the womb of God. Isn't that
beautiful? Also interesting is how normally she described by location. It seems to
be a natural state of near death experience. She expanded on this by saying
that we don't learn how to connect with our higher selves, but rather the
natural thing to do is to remember. It's a reminder that we existed before
we had a body, and we will continue to exist after our physical body
is worn out and cast aside. Lastly, I have been struck how people
who have experienced a near death experience come away with an expanded sense of boundaries,
or say, a looser set of filters. Felice learn the opposite,
how to gain boundaries. I liked her summing up her interview with the idea
that we can be connected to expanded states of consciousness while at the same time
I'm having good boundaries while in the physical. Like so much else in our
physical lives, it's a balancing act. Thank you, Felice. If you're
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