WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:13.919 Hello, and welcome back to the round table. We have another film review. 2 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:17.280 I'm David Flora. I'm the host of the Blurry Photos podcast. With 3 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:20.960 me is Derek Hayes of Monsters among Us. What's up Derek? Hello, 4 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:27.399 everybody, Thanks for having me back or whatever. I'm glad to have you 5 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:32.640 back. I'm glad to have you so enthused. Definitely. We've got Justin 6 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:35.880 Zinger from the zing This podcast. What's up? Justin? Oh? Nothing 7 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:41.000 much. I'm actually wearing all black unintentionally for this. This was not intended. 8 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:44.359 But black shirt, black pants. I'm in the mood. There you 9 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:51.719 go. He is the muscleman in black. Now we are covering the nineteen 10 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:58.479 eighty nine British television horror film The Woman in Black. Derek, you had 11 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:00.840 mentioned that you'd never heard this one before. Zinger? Is that same for 12 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:07.879 you too? Oh, I have never ever heard of this before. Then 13 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.280 one's hearing about it. I was like, oh, I regret knowing of 14 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.719 this now sort of. And Derek, what did you think on hearing this 15 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.439 picked? Quite honestly, I misread your text and thought we were doing the 16 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:25.799 Daniel Radcliffe version this whole time until about this morning. I think so this 17 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:26.480 whole time. I was like, oh, well, you know, it's 18 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:30.319 not what I would have picked, but it sounds like it's a good movie. 19 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:33.760 And then I learned it was the nineteen eighty nine made for television version, 20 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.840 and let's just say I would like my two hours back. So there 21 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:45.200 was another film version of this released in twenty twelve, and it did star 22 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:49.560 Harry Potter himself. Also Kiaran Hines, who if you are a fan of 23 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:55.319 HBO's Rome, he was Caesar. He's been in like almost everything you would 24 00:01:55.359 --> 00:02:00.760 recognize him. But I couldn't find that streaming for free anywhere the time when 25 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:04.079 I picked this, so I said, let's do the nineteen eighty nine film. 26 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:10.280 And I think the other one is streaming now on Pluto TV. You 27 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:15.080 can watch it with ads, but it's free. I watched it today actually, 28 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:21.159 and now I am sad that I picked this one as well. So 29 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:24.479 white, did both of you watch The Radcliff one? Two? And I 30 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:30.000 just didn't know. I haven't seen The Radcliff. I was just sort of 31 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:32.039 looking forward to watching it. I watched the trailer for it and I was 32 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:38.759 like, oh, interesting next. Yeah, I'll talk a little bit about 33 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:43.120 that later. So this is this is, like I said, a television 34 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:50.000 horror film as directed by Herbert Wise, and the screenplay was Nigel Neil, 35 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.680 very British. It's based on or it's adapted from the nineteen eighty three novel 36 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:58.159 of the same name by Susan Hill. It's kind of wild that they got 37 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.560 a whole novel out of this story, but here you go. One of 38 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:07.599 the most interesting things about this is it premiered on Christmas Eve nineteen eighty nine, 39 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:13.120 and then they did not show it again for like five to six years, 40 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:17.280 and people were like, what was that? Because people were freaked the 41 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:22.840 f out by this picture. There is one scene in particular, I think 42 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.280 that did it for people. We'll get to that. Yeah, I think 43 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:29.599 I know which one you're talking about too. Where were you gonna say, 44 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:30.879 Derek, I was just gonna say, I'm trying to put myself in the 45 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:36.039 nineteen eighties mindset. You know, we hadn't seen all these crazy things at 46 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:39.319 the time. Maybe we had, It wasn't more effective then, I guess, 47 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:43.000 and that information kind of helps me, like, I know what's seen 48 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.599 you're talking about And Okay, freaked me out too, but mostly because my 49 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:51.120 speakers couldn't handle whatever sound they were pumping through it, and it sent like 50 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:54.319 infra sound my direction. I don't know it did something audibly that the rattles, 51 00:03:55.240 --> 00:04:00.800 it rattled something. Yeah, I think you're right about putting yourself in 52 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:06.080 the mindset at the time. I mean, everybody's gathered around the fireplace and 53 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:12.840 Christmas Eve, you know, Santa's gonna come that night. The kids maybe 54 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.639 are in bed, but maybe they're staying up just you know, everybody's basically 55 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:20.360 on vacation. Everybody's just kind of chilling, relaxing with family, and then 56 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:25.360 this thing comes on the friggin TV and it's like, oh, well, 57 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.160 this looks like a fun time. Maybe we should watch it instead of you 58 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:33.160 know, Miracle on thirty fourth Street or Scrooged if they could get that on 59 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.879 TV at the time. I think that was like a year earlier. But 60 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:40.079 anyway, people turn this on the TV and then it's like, what are 61 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:43.079 you gonna do? Now? You're gonna be awake for the rest of the 62 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:47.040 year. So I think it is. I think it's the mindset and the 63 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:50.839 you know, people used to tell scary stories around Christmas time, around the 64 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:55.079 winter solstice. So yeah, back I was gonna stay back in the day. 65 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:59.160 That was sort of a thing, and it's referenced in what song is 66 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:03.720 that being bing Crosby um dreaming of a white Christmas maybe, where her references 67 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:10.160 UM telling ghost tales by the fire or something man that that that that that 68 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.959 that that that. It's in the back of my head those that file doesn't 69 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:16.160 get open for another month and a half, so I don't I can't remember 70 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:20.800 off the top of my head. One of them references scary ghost stories and 71 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:27.519 something of the Here you go, we're getting three grown men and figure this 72 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:30.360 song out. I'm not helping in this scenario, so good luck you two. 73 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:35.399 At the point being they used to tell ghost stories Christmas, I can 74 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:39.720 see that that sounds like a very Nordic thing to do, if that makes 75 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:43.959 any sense. Sure sounds Nordic. So anyways, let's let's go through the 76 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:46.720 plot a little bit. There's not a lot to it. Or on one 77 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:49.680 second, if if if if, if you don't mind, gentlemen, I 78 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:54.319 mean, if it pleases the course, if it pleases you guys, Now 79 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:59.920 you guys run your paranormal podcast. I of course have a pop culture podcast. 80 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.000 This is movies are more my realm. So what we do on zygnis 81 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.759 every time we talk about a movie is we go over the tomatoes. So 82 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:11.199 I looked up the Rotten Tomatoes for this and gentlemen, I don't know if 83 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:15.240 you did, but I would like to quiz you two on what do you 84 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:20.040 think the tomato score is the for this movie? Derek, I'm gonna go 85 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:26.519 with you first. Now I'm talking tomatoes the actual reviewers, not the audience 86 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:29.399 score. You can guess both, but I'm going with how fresh is that 87 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:33.120 tomato? I'm making some sun dried tomatoes for my sandwich or are those going 88 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:38.120 into compost? Well, let's start with a made a remake of it, 89 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:43.000 so it had to have been somewhat successful. It's stuffy and British, so 90 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.560 I feel like that gets it a couple of notches right there. I think 91 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:50.519 it's surprisingly high. I'm gonna say, like forty forty four percent on Rotten 92 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:57.800 Tomatoes, so that would be a certified rotten Tomato's higher than it needs to 93 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:01.600 be. Okay, David, I'm trying to put myself in the mindset of 94 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:06.839 reviewers that hopefully take into consideration the time period it came out. I'm gonna 95 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:12.279 say, sixty three percent. Okay, all right, all right. So 96 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:17.199 with that being said, gentlemen, and you dear listler one hundred percent alpha 97 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:26.680 five reviews on Rotten Tomatoes by reviewers, it's got a one hundred one hundred, 98 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.759 one hundred now audience score over a thousand reviews, seventy eight. So 99 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:42.480 I know now as the comparison the remake with with UM Action Superstar Daniel Radcliffe, 100 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:44.800 don't know what action movie he was in to get that title, but 101 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:51.800 UM Guns Akimbo, Swiss Army Man, Swiss Army and the Summer another UM 102 00:07:53.279 --> 00:08:00.959 sixty six percent on Tomato meter for the remake, fifty four percent audience score. 103 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:05.000 So definitely apparently the remake did not what was not the critical darling that 104 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:11.480 the original was with its solid from five reviewers. So what does that tell 105 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.319 you? Nostalgia goes a long way when it comes to films. I think 106 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.560 you're right, it's kind of surprising. I feel like the newer one was 107 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:24.480 not bad. I would actually suggest people watch both just but we'll get into 108 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:26.759 that. Let me yeah, yeah, So I want to take that moment 109 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:31.759 because I said, it's always something fun to see where everyone else lied with 110 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:35.879 these and see if we're in the minority, the majority or wherever. Anyway, 111 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.279 it sounds like it didn't get enough eyes on it to make a competent 112 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:46.919 score. Anyways. All right, So the plot is there's a solicitor, 113 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:52.720 a London solicitor named Arthur Kidd. He goes to a coastal town because there's 114 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:58.440 an old widow who has died. She's reclusive. She lives in this estate 115 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:03.600 this man and that's out on the sand bar like it's on a little kind 116 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:09.559 of island that's only accessible when the tide is low and asked to get to. 117 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:16.080 Yeah. Yeah, it's called Eel Marsh House. So it's already you 118 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:20.120 know, it's already firing on all cylinders. Are you guys fans of Mighty 119 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.120 Boosh? Since we're talking about English media, are you familiar with Mighty Boush 120 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.279 at all? No. I've liked what I've seen, but I haven't seen 121 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.759 a lot. I've been a huge fan of that for a long time. 122 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:33.559 My roommate Will who worked on the film with us, David, he had 123 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:35.840 to go to London for work one time and he came back with a DVD 124 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.240 of The Mighty Boosh and I was just hooked from them. But anyways, 125 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:46.080 say that because there's a whole episode about eels and they're like, cockney, 126 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:48.399 Yeah that's the one. Yeah, I don't know, I know that whenever 127 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.279 somebody mentions eels, I can't help but think of the musical number that of 128 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:58.679 the episode. But can heels up inside? Yeah that's a good that's a 129 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:01.159 good catchy song. If you guys can find Mighty Bouche, I highly recommend 130 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.519 it. It is stupid, but it's pretty entertaining. Yeah, apparently streaming 131 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.080 on Hulu. Hey, there you go, there you go. Continue. 132 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.399 Sorry, it didn't mean that derail you, So that's all right. He's 133 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:16.080 the setting is nineteen twenty five and this guy, Arthur Kidd, he's kind 134 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:20.240 of a he's a lawyer that works for this firm he's trying to make partner. 135 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:26.000 But he's a little bit too friendly with the help. And that doesn't 136 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:31.080 mean sexual, that means that all the paralegals and people who work for the 137 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:37.879 lawyers he's buddies with. He treats them like human beings, and the partners 138 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.320 of firm don't like that. And there's this one stodgy old d bag who 139 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:45.519 is like if you want to succeed here, stop talking to the help, 140 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:50.480 like, stop being such a nice guy basically, and he's like, if 141 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:54.080 you want to further your career here, we need you to go out here 142 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.080 and take care of this old widow's estate, you know, out in the 143 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.440 middle of nowhere. I'll marsh house. And he's like, all right, 144 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.919 I'll do that. You know, I'm a company man. So he goes 145 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.039 out to he takes a train out to this place. It's a it's a 146 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.960 very small coastal town again, and there's not much going on. He shocks 147 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:18.240 up at a little in pub kind of place and everybody whenever he's like, 148 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.720 oh, I'm here from London. I'm going to administer the last will of 149 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:26.919 this old widow, everybody starts throwing him these glances, and you can tell 150 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.559 right away there's something going on. People are like, oh, that plays 151 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:37.679 that woman. Maybe you should like move on with your life. Maybe you 152 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.519 shouldn't be here. It's that classic moment in every horror film where the music 153 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:45.200 stops and everybody puts their drink down and turns and looks at him like he's 154 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.120 going where like you got do what? Yeh? I think there actually was 155 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:52.360 a moment when I'm not trying to jump ahead, but the one moment where 156 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:54.200 he's like, I'm gonna go back out there. The people standing behind him 157 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:58.519 when he turns, they all like act like they're not paying attention, even 158 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:03.840 though there's they're literally standing right behind him, and he saw them turn like, 159 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.080 oh no, wait, David, before you continue, can I point 160 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:11.919 something out I noticed throughout the film, and this is the first point that 161 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.080 I want to get at. It reminded me a lot of other films and 162 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:20.120 other stories, and this whole section was very Dracula to me. You know, 163 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:26.159 Barker going to Transylvania, Arker, sorry, Barker going to Transylvania to 164 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:31.279 deal with Dracula's estate and all this stuff. I think he was buying property 165 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.200 in England or something, if I remember right something Abby. It's been a 166 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.240 while since I've read it or seen the movie, but it was very Dracula 167 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.440 esque the way it all kind of played out. And even the scene where 168 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:45.240 he was in with the boss that you were talking about, he was talking 169 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.000 down to him like, don't talk to the help clean yourself up. He 170 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.759 had like baby vomit on his arm or something, because he has kids, 171 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.879 he's a family. That reminded me of the opening of Sleepy Hollow, Tim 172 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.600 Burton's Sleepy Hollow from nineteen ninety nine, and it made me think that it 173 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:03.200 might be inspired because it's Tim Burton. Of course he's seen this movie. 174 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:05.600 Like there's no way in hell he hasn't seen this movie like on Loop probably, 175 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:11.679 And just the way the framing of it, and the way that I 176 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:13.759 don't know the partner whoever it was talking down to our main character, the 177 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:18.519 way he communicated it was all just very Sleepy Hollow esque. Where Ichabod Crane's 178 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:22.240 at that beginning courtroom scene where he's like, I need to dissect the body. 179 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.759 I need to have a look and see how he was murdered, how 180 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:26.679 he was killed. And he's like, no, no, no, we're 181 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:31.480 gonna ship you up north to the scary place. You have no idea that's 182 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:33.120 in mind, you have no idea what's coming. It's a good call. 183 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.919 It does have a lot of trappings of other stories, and it doesn't really 184 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:43.480 veer away from that either. Because he gets to the house. It's it's 185 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.919 creepy, but it's just because it's a big, old place that hasn't really 186 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.159 been taken care of because this would awa has been invalid and she's been taken 187 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:54.279 care of by a you know, it's basically a was a hospice for her 188 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.200 for years. And he has to go outside and like crank the generator to 189 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.960 get electricity bought. That's like one of the only places that has electricity around 190 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:07.279 there, so that was interesting. But at one point he's outside, he's 191 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.200 out front and it's foggy as all get out, and he hears this awful 192 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:18.120 crash of like a horse and buggy carrying a family, and there's screams and 193 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.720 it's just harrowing, but he can't see it and he can't run, Like 194 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:26.080 he tries to run out to see if he can help, but he ends 195 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:30.799 up stepping in the marsh because he can't see the road it's too foggy, 196 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.240 and so then it all goes quiet, and he's like, what the hell 197 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:37.240 just happened? Well, this keeps happening to him. He keeps hearing this 198 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:43.159 crash and the screams in the fog, and he never is able to see 199 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.960 anything happen. It's just the sound of it. So he's already freaked out. 200 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:50.799 She's there's a lot of little details. I don't want to get too 201 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.399 deep and on this, but there's a room that's locked that he can't get 202 00:14:54.440 --> 00:15:01.080 into. There's no key will work that, and that comes into play eventually 203 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:07.120 where he hears what is it a thumping sound in there? Here's a thumping 204 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:13.559 Might hear a kid kid giggling or something in Anyways, he gets I guess 205 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:18.039 angry enough that he can't figure out what's going on that he grabs an axe 206 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.480 and runs back to that door and it's open, and he's like, okay, 207 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:26.360 and he opens the door and it's like a child's playroom that's pristine, 208 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:30.840 has not been touched, and maybe there's a rocking chair rocking, or the 209 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:35.639 well, a ball falls like from the ceiling, or something rolls to him. 210 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:39.000 And then he hears a voice right yep, yeah, a little girl's 211 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:43.720 a child's voice, a little boy's voice, a boy voice. I thought 212 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.399 it was a girl's voice. I thought it was a girl for the longest 213 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.480 time, until they point out that it was a boy later on it was 214 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.399 Bart Simpson's voice. So it's both. He'll have a cow man, but 215 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:58.879 he hears this this voice, and then he gets freaked out runs away and 216 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:03.519 then when he comes back to that room, it's like trashed, completely torn 217 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.519 up, very poulter Geist desk, like from the Yeah, from the movie 218 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:10.919 Poulter. Guys, you're missing one very important part that I thought you guys 219 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:17.799 would bring up immediately. This guy essentially inventsd podcast. Oh yeah. He 220 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:21.840 finds what do they call that a phonograph or whatever wax cylinders he had with 221 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:25.039 the wax cones, and he just records his voice in the first he's goofing 222 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:27.120 around and he's like, well, welcome to monsters among us. He just 223 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:33.000 starts his own podcast essentially where he's narrating you know, what's going on, 224 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:37.039 and it's a pretty boring show, honestly. But he finds these cones that 225 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:42.080 were created by the widow in previous time, which kind of fills in. 226 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:47.879 She was podcasting first, yes, and she had a much better program than 227 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:51.919 he did. The quality was through the roof. She had oudly murders in 228 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:56.600 the building, yes, exactly. So I thought that was funny. And 229 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.480 then he starts hearing all these sounds. I'm like, idiot, you have 230 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.960 the only according device in the country. Go take it outside and record the 231 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.839 sound. But he doesn't Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of decisions 232 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:10.279 that I don't think I would have made. But what he's doing is he's 233 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:14.960 going through all the papers and the effects and stuff to try and uh do 234 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:18.640 the legal proceedings on how they can sell it and you know, the last 235 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:22.240 will all that stuff. But he he's also like, what happened to this 236 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:27.000 woman and her family, because there's just weirdness in the town with how they 237 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:33.039 treated her and what they how they talk about her. And he finds out 238 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:40.200 that her child was killed in an accident and it ends up being the one 239 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.200 that happened out front, right, that that the buggy went down in the 240 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.640 bar and no one, no one helped them, or something like there was 241 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:52.880 or this. Okay, okay, wait, let me back up. It 242 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.200 wasn't the woman whose house it was. It was her sister, right, 243 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:02.279 I didn't get that, but possibly I think I think it was. Geez 244 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:07.440 it gets It's a very slow movie, everybody. It kind of got convoluted 245 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.440 at the end. It's very slow. Yeah, yeah, it's it's very 246 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.960 slow. I think it was. Okay, I think it was her sister 247 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.880 gave birth to a child out of wedlock, but she wasn't able to care 248 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.359 for it, and this woman instead adopted it. Couldn't have children, I 249 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.079 believe, so she adopted a child which was this child, which was her 250 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:30.440 her sister's child, So it was she had adopted her nephew. Everyone's tuned 251 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:34.839 out by now, Like, forget about the movie. They've already tuned out 252 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:38.440 of this show. I like how David has also not pointed out at all 253 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:45.839 that there keeps on appearing this woman in black that can everyone see? Can 254 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:49.319 be? Um? Can the Bastani kids see it? And I'm saying Bistani 255 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:52.880 instead of the other word they use. And if you're a D and D 256 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.680 player, that's a deep preference and a deep cut, you're welcome. Yeah. 257 00:18:56.759 --> 00:19:00.079 Yeah, there's some there's some. Uh, there's a sprinkling of racism 258 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:04.799 in the town. That's it from the traveling folk that might have set up 259 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:10.839 present anyways. Um, yeah, one more thing. So the sister was 260 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:15.119 mad that that she couldn't have her child, so she tried to escape with 261 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.440 a child one day and that's when they they got caught by the tide. 262 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:23.880 They died in the most violent carriage crash in history to the longest and the 263 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:32.400 soft mushy Marsh. They're crashing for a good thirty second straight. Yeah, 264 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:34.839 he sees. When he gets to the town, he sees he attends this 265 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:38.880 woman's funeral. There's nobody there but him and you know, the priest or 266 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:44.200 whatever, and one guy who's helping him gets set up. He sees this 267 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:49.200 woman in a black dress like mourning material, you know, mourning gown off 268 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:55.079 in the distance like classic. She doesn't have an umbrella, but she might 269 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:59.119 as well be standing in the ringing at this funeral, overlooking it. And 270 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:02.359 then when and then something that somebody screams or something, he looks over and 271 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:04.440 when he looks back, she's not there anymore. Classic. Yes, he 272 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:08.200 keeps, he keeps seeing her, She keeps showing up. At one point 273 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:12.559 into Marsh, he finds a little graveyard. She's there. She starts walking 274 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:17.000 towards him, and he freaks out runs away. So, yes, thank 275 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:22.160 you for bringing her, and thank you for bringing the title character into this 276 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:25.839 plot. I'm trying to get It was easy to forget her, though, 277 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:29.960 because she would show up and then just disappear, like there was no resolution 278 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.279 to any of the scenes that she was in. Did he run out of 279 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:36.200 the room did she disappear, like what ended up happening? Can other people 280 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:41.000 see her? Well, yeah, it's just him. The whole town kind 281 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:45.480 of had that vibe, like he would ask other characters questions and they just 282 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.680 flat out wouldn't answer him. They would just respond with something else. They're 283 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:51.359 like, oh, it's getting dark out, he asked the one guy. 284 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.480 I can't remember the question he asked him a question the guys a past the 285 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:57.599 sault, Like it was so abrupt and so obvious that he was trying not 286 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:00.079 to answer him. So the whole time, I thought, well, is 287 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:04.200 our main character a ghost and this whole town is still alive or vice versa, 288 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.640 the whole town's a ghost. I was giving it way more credit than 289 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:11.720 it really deserved. I thought this plot was much deeper. At a certain 290 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:17.720 point, I thought for sure that the carriage wreck was his wife and two 291 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:21.880 kids coming to visit him, and he was hearing it from the future. 292 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:25.319 I guess, like haunting from the future, because he had two kids, 293 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:29.559 and I couldn't tell from the wailing going on in that accident, the sound 294 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.559 that you keep talking about if there was one kid or two or how many 295 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:37.039 people were involved, Like I thought the one was a girl. Actually the 296 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:40.440 little girl was screaming, but it was apparently a little boy either way. 297 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:41.759 I thought that was what was going on, and I was thinking, oh, 298 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.119 well, it's kind of clever, but they didn't do any of that. 299 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:47.880 None of that was done. How did this movie in? David? 300 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:52.759 Sorry, no, no, I kind of was wondering that too. I'm 301 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:57.519 like, is this like foreshadowing of what's gonna happen to his family? Yeah, 302 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:00.839 that's exactly what I is this clever? Is this? Like? What's 303 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:06.720 is that what this is? And well? Yeah, also that dog that 304 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:11.279 so this That's what I think the movie actually got interesting. It's so slow. 305 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:17.160 But one of the guys that helps him, that like picks him up 306 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:19.960 from the train station and helps him out in the town. He's got this 307 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:29.480 little dog and the dog's named Spider. I like the explanation hate the name 308 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.680 or something, right like yeah, yeah, he explains, He's like, 309 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:36.200 oh, it's it's all it's you know, all all hair and legs. 310 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:41.359 And I'm like I'm like, okay, great explanation. Still hate the name. 311 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:44.599 And then he's like, do you want to borrow my dog? Yeah? 312 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:47.559 He's like, take the dog with you. You need company at that 313 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:51.720 house, and I'm like, what are you doing? Man? This is 314 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:56.880 a recipe for disest who would lend out their dog. There's no ways coming 315 00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:59.799 back to you. I'll never get that dog back. I'll spoil it for 316 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:04.000 everybody. The dog is okay. The dog survives. So that's that's kind 317 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:10.359 of my like litmus test for a movie. Everybody in this movie, though, 318 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:15.200 honestly, the only person that dies is the widow. Do you remember 319 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:22.519 the ending? Did you fall asleep? Forget something? As soon as the 320 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:26.480 dog goes with him to spend the night with him, the movie gets good. 321 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.640 That's unfortunately, about three quarters of the way through he has more supernatural 322 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:36.480 stuff happening to him at the house. Basically, at one point he goes 323 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:41.039 to bed and he's awakened by the sound of this voice of this kid. 324 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:45.160 This might be is this at the house or is it in town? At 325 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:49.039 that point? The second time was at the end. The second time here 326 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:52.480 here's the voice is at the end. Yeah, I think he might have 327 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:56.039 been finds the soul journer of the pillow. I believe, yes. I 328 00:23:56.079 --> 00:24:00.920 think he might have had a nervous breakdown, been taken into town. He's 329 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:07.039 resting at the spider's owner's house and then he hears he hears the kid and 330 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:10.440 it wakes him up, and then he feels under his pillow and there's this 331 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:15.720 little soldier, this little tin soldier or whatever, which he keeps finding other 332 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.440 places. He keeps, yeah, keeps showing up in places, which is 333 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.079 creepy. That's a fun thing. But then all of a sudden, the 334 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:23.640 kid talks. He's like, oh, what what are you doing? Bull? 335 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:27.000 And he's like, what's your name? Who are you? And then 336 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:34.079 the scene happens where this woman in black just shows up floating above his bad 337 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:45.799 bug eyed, just going and it is that for a solid two minutes if 338 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:52.920 it's a second, but that sound was exactly what it sounds like. He 339 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.119 is creepy, Yeah, it is. It's creepy, and it's funny because 340 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:02.279 she's she's doing nothing but floating there and bug eyed and close up on her 341 00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:07.759 face and that's all you need because it was it's creepy, and that's what 342 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.839 has stuck with people all these years, I think. Anyways, he he 343 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:17.640 absolutely loses his mind. He's sent back to London, he recuperates and then 344 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:22.119 he's he's just scarred because he finds that that toy soldier in his briefcase. 345 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:29.039 He burns the lawyer's practice down, or at least his office. He burns 346 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:33.559 his practice. All the stuff from the Woman in Black's house, including her 347 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:40.319 original podcasting, Yeah, lost to history. Yeah, wanted to nip that 348 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:44.839 in the bud. And and sorry, I'll let you finish with what happens 349 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:48.319 now. And then he returns to his family. They're like, let's take 350 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:52.279 it. Let's take a break, let's go out boating on the on the 351 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.359 pond. I forgot about this. But then he sees the Woman in Black 352 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:00.240 and a tree falls on them the end on the water, on the water. 353 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:04.400 They're in the boat, there's the woman in Black standing in the water 354 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:08.119 like Jesus, and then the tree falls on him. They spent all their 355 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:11.920 budget on that. They spent all their budget on their standing out there, 356 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:18.960 I guarantee, like the meat pole, like the Metatron from Um Dogma Deep 357 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:22.160 Kevin Smith cut, You're welcome. I am going deep into the Alan Rickman. 358 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.599 Yeah, Alan Rickman's character and Um Dogma. So there, that's my 359 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:32.440 reference point for that. What was that in reference to the water, Oh 360 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:34.359 okay, yeah, because he does that too, in the movie, not 361 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:40.680 just movie. So the movie ends with the entire family dying. Here's the 362 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:44.759 here's the point probably should have made earlier. I'm all over the place whenever 363 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.240 anybody sees the woman in black, a kid is gonna die. That's what 364 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.519 the town is so up in arms about, because I think they're all kind 365 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.640 of like keeping their heads low and trying not to piss her off. And 366 00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.799 then all of a sudden he comes to town, he starts seeing her, 367 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:02.799 and they're all like, well, crap, now, what if our kids 368 00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:07.000 are going to die? Thanks? Yeah, And they were hoping that would 369 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:11.799 be one of the Vastani kids, and it almost He saves one of one 370 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:17.079 of them from a cart falling on it or something, legs falling off of 371 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:21.839 the cart on the legs, yeah, and a bigger log falling to where 372 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:26.359 the kid was. Yeah. But he's he saved this uh this this child, 373 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.839 uh, a Romany child. I think that's how we Romani. Yes, 374 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.880 I've referred to it in the past. I'm just gonna keep saying Vestani 375 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:42.160 for the DND reference. That's this film. It affected people. Um, 376 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:47.279 how did it affect you guys? It affected me big time. I had 377 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.920 had a busy day to day, and looking back, it affected me a 378 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:56.640 lot because I could have had that time. Like you could literally condense this 379 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.640 film into like a five minute short, it might be affect if it's basically 380 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:07.640 what's the best way? It's Season one of Unsolved Mysteries, the world's longest 381 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.200 reenactment. That's what you're watching right here. The budget, the budgets super 382 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:17.680 low, the actings or whatever, m the story's pretty bad. The effects 383 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:21.000 are pretty bad. Like there's not really a redeeming factor other than nostalgia. 384 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:23.519 If you watch this when you were ten years old at Christmas time, you 385 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:29.359 probably love this film quite honestly. But having watched it now at whatever the 386 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.400 hell old, what am I forty something? Um, it doesn't it doesn't 387 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.640 land. It doesn't land with me now. It's it's just too dated and 388 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:41.039 it's just too slow for me. And there's too many accents like what is 389 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.799 this a blurry photos episode? Like I don't know what's half these people are 390 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.680 talking about in the same sentence, even in the same sense. And there's 391 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.799 all these different British accents like you get Cockney, you get the other ones 392 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:57.640 that I can't remember. Um, I usually can that's that's a movie we 393 00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:00.680 should do. Snatch you get seen Snatch, that's yeah, yeah, it's 394 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:08.839 a British movie. Ranks like that. You mean dogs? Yeahs. Anyway, 395 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.200 I don't know. I like any film. I appreciate that they did 396 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.200 it. It's a ton of work to get a film done of any caliber. 397 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:22.880 But man, it's dated. It's a dated film. My only redeeming 398 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.559 thing is there's nice little moments with the sound effects when it's not blowing out 399 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:32.079 your speakers from just being overgone, like him putting on the wax cylinders and 400 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:33.759 stuff had Like I was like, oh man, the sound effects on that 401 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.160 are cool. And then my speakers blow out a few minutes later from just 402 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.519 something happening, and I'm like, never mind. That could be because it's 403 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.799 on YouTube as well. I mean, this is on YouTube. You guys 404 00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.839 can watch it at your leisure. By the way, for yourself, a 405 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:53.720 favor turn on close caption, because not even the close caption knows what's being 406 00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:59.000 said. There were several times where the dog was referred to as Spider Man 407 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:04.759 for some reason. I don't know why. Also, the where where the 408 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.640 dog goes and runs off and he's goes Spider. I was like, is 409 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:12.880 he scared to Spider? Oh right, dog's names Like. I had so 410 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:18.359 much anxiety Once he borrowed the dog, I'm like, yeah, give the 411 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.079 dog back. He ran off. Yeah, the marsh I'm like, and 412 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.599 I wrote a note somewhere. I'm like, I knew this was gonna happen. 413 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:30.079 There did something like that like don't let people borrow your pets. That's 414 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.599 rule number three year whatever. Jeez, maybe that's a British thing. I 415 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:38.279 don't know sure, but they were talking about how much they love this dog 416 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.119 and oh, he's the greatest. I'll just take him. We don't need 417 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.960 it, right. I'm hung up on that for some reason. I'm not 418 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.200 even a dog guy, and I'm still hung up. But the dog was 419 00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.119 okay, So he was okay. I would dog was the smartest one one 420 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.799 in the film. He ran and immediately I'm an all out of here, 421 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.000 ran all the way home. Yep. I actually have a question for you 422 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.680 guys. Uh and I kind of touched on it with some of my theories 423 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.680 as to what's going on. But if you were to forget the remake, 424 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.519 let's say you're going to remake this film today, what would you add to 425 00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.960 it to bring it into modern times. I guess the best way to put 426 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:14.079 it what would you add or subtract or how would you change the story to 427 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.799 make it more interesting. I can't really answer that after having watched the remake, 428 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.759 because I think they did a lot of stuff that I probably would have 429 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.480 done myself, Like crank up the creepiness factor, crank up the children creepiness 430 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:32.920 factor. Have the woman be more of a character in it than just appearing 431 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.720 like a handful of times, even including the time where she's just screeching with 432 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.440 her bug eyes. So once I get into a little bit of the remake, 433 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.440 I think you might agree too, But I'm interested in zing or what 434 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.640 do you think? How would you do it? So? Something that bugs 435 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.720 me in this and other like horror movies stuff like that, especially ghost hauntings, 436 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:59.079 is does the main character deserve what happens to them? I don't think 437 00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.640 this guy does. Is like, he's a good family man who's just trying 438 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:07.519 to do the right thing here. Now his boss, if the boss were 439 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.640 the one out there, yeah, he deserves to have everything happened to him. 440 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:13.200 But that's the That's the thing that bugged me about this is I'm like, 441 00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:17.160 this guy did nothing to deserve the outcome he gets, aside from just 442 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:23.000 do his job and wanting to resolve this situation. And there's no like warnings 443 00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.880 of like you know, the the I don't know why this is sticking in 444 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.039 my head for some reason. Um, sometimes that is better, like like 445 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.359 like something like someone. I mean, yeah, they all warn him, 446 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.200 hey, don't go out there, but there's no one that's like, just 447 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:42.640 leave it alone, don't. I just feel him being the focus of the 448 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.400 ghost eyre is an undeserved thing. Maybe have him be unfaithful to his wife 449 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:53.359 and the remake, maybe have him be the one who's mean to the employee, 450 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:58.680 like make him an unlikable character so the outcome is kind of like deserved 451 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:02.680 instead of just God, did guy did good thing? Bad thing happened to 452 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.039 him in the end. Don't know why I broke in the caveman explanation, 453 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.279 but there you go. That's that's all I would do it. I would 454 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:15.759 want the character to deserve the outcome. Challow ground up. Then your pet. 455 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:22.680 That's a movie we should do, guys pet cemetery. Um, yeah, 456 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:29.680 there is, there is. I don't disagree with you, justin but 457 00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:35.319 at the same time, like maybe his quote unquote sin was choosing workover family 458 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.640 because he comes home and well, let's let's back up. The bosses like, 459 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:43.000 you gotta go do this thing at this mansion on the other side of 460 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.039 England wherever it is. Uh, you have to write a train to get 461 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.119 there. It's far away. And he's like, you don't have a choice. 462 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.400 If you want to move up in this firm, you have to do 463 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.240 this. And he's like, but I got a wife, I got a 464 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:53.559 kid, blah blah blah. And then he goes home. We find out 465 00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.839 he is a nanny for Starters, So what's he even doing. There was 466 00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.240 some weird stuff with a nanny, but his boss blames him for having kids. 467 00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:05.119 By the way, did you catch that. Yeah, he was like, 468 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.960 if you if you wanted a career, you shouldn't have had a family 469 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:10.840 or something like that basically, And then he goes home tells his wife, 470 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.039 I got to go out of town for a week, like, good luck 471 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.280 with you, and the nanny like she'll be fine. But and they still 472 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.960 get a babysitter anyway, even though they have a nanny. I don't understand 473 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:24.119 the whole nanny things. It's a British thing, Mary Poppins. The more 474 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.719 I'm talking about it, the more questions popping in my head because he comes 475 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.559 home at this scene and then the little kids like the nanny pushed me, 476 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.920 and then Nanny's like, no, I didn't, and then the parents looked 477 00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:37.159 concerned at each other and then never came up again, like is this an 478 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.800 abuse of nanny? Like what's happening in this scene? But anyway, the 479 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.960 whole point of what I'm getting at is the boss knew about this haunting and 480 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.960 he sent him there so that the boss didn't have to go. So he 481 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:53.079 was kind of that unwilling victim. And then the choice that he made was 482 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:58.960 he chose his career well further in his career in this instance, at least 483 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:02.320 over his family. And that would be the quote unquote sin that I would 484 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.400 compare it to. But it's it's a British horror film, so I feel 485 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:10.599 like everything's like watered down a little bit. Not no dig on the British 486 00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:15.760 whatsoever, but it's it's especially an eighty nine major TV British movie. It's 487 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:21.360 pretty dry. Let me tell you what they did with the remake. It's 488 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:27.559 almost a completely different story. Basically, it's the premise of a solicitor having 489 00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:34.400 to go to eel Marsh House to administer the final will of this widow. 490 00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:39.480 That's the same. Everything else is basically different. The woman in black in 491 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:45.039 that is much more hands on. She is like out to get kids. 492 00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:52.159 There are tons of kids that have died one of them. Harry Potter plays 493 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.920 the solicitor in it. In this one, he is a single parent. 494 00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.800 His wife has died in childbirth, so he's Scott the kid alone and has 495 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.199 a nanny to hell Sow every horror movie starts, so we're off to a 496 00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:12.000 good start. Yeah. Yeah. He is not as jovial and stuff as 497 00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.320 a lawyer as the Southern one. In fact, the lawyer and this was 498 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:21.800 like you need to get your act together. You're like failing, so go 499 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.519 do this or you're fired. And he's like, okay, I'll do this. 500 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:29.840 And he gets there and basically the town from the get go is like 501 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.760 get out. We don't want you here, especially knowing that you're going to 502 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.199 go to this place where this woman's been taken our kids. And at one 503 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:45.679 point he's like at the police station and a few kids come in. One 504 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.679 of them is like sickly, and then she just vomits blood and dies in 505 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:57.840 his arms because she has she has ingested lie. There's another part where there's 506 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.079 a fire. He comes into town, into town, there's a fire in 507 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:04.159 a house. He goes there's a kid in it still, so he busts 508 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.440 in. He's like, I'm going to show everybody that I'm not here to 509 00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:09.559 mess with them, I'm here to help. He goes into it and the 510 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:14.880 kids standing there with an oil lamp in her hand, surrounded by flames. 511 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.320 The woman in black is standing beside her, looking at her, and she 512 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:22.880 just busts this oil lamp at her feet and goes up in flames. The 513 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:28.880 kids are basically drawn to death. When this woman is around, she like 514 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.519 causes them to do things they wouldn't do. It sounds like a much better, 515 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:36.719 much better movie. I liked it a lot better. Um, it 516 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.559 wasn't you know. It wasn't perfect by any means. There's a lot of 517 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:44.440 jump scares that are kind of corny, but it's much much more of a 518 00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:49.159 horror film along the lines of what's happening these days, what's being made, 519 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.079 you know, what we're more used to. I think Harry Potter does a 520 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.000 great job in it. Oh wait, wait wait, since there's a lot 521 00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:59.559 more kids in this one, there's a standard we have here. Does one 522 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:05.239 of them it punted out the door or any like? Because because we established 523 00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.559 from what was it? La Larna? Yeah? Yeah, don't give them 524 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.239 get get just yet. I don't think there's a single yeat in this one 525 00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:17.920 of all time. The kid does yeat blood from her mouth at one point, 526 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.400 and then one of them yeats an oil lamp at her feet so that 527 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.800 she goes up. So but no, no kid, no kid themselves gets 528 00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:31.199 heated, I don't think. But they do separate them at some point though, 529 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.679 don't They put them in different groups and like a like a hat decides 530 00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:44.239 which group they go into. Did not happen? Wrong movie? Oh sorry, 531 00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:49.480 wrong, Daniel Radcliff movie that decides I had to throw it Harry Potter 532 00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.320 joke in there somehow. Actually I got okay, that can wait? That 533 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:59.559 can wait. So one one big difference in this is that Daniel Radcliffe's character 534 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:04.000 is like, I'm going to help this ghost. I'm going to do something 535 00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:09.400 to get her to stop. He literally goes out at night and U goes 536 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:16.119 marsh diving. He dives into this swamp and it's like it's basically tar. 537 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:22.320 It's like all this gross mud. He gets Julius Caesar to to get in 538 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:27.639 a car and pull out this carriage from this marsh and he gets the body 539 00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:31.519 of the dead kid that is this woman's son, and he like takes it 540 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.719 home, cleans it up, wraps it up, puts it in the nursery. 541 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.760 Where where it it? You know it used to live? Can I 542 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:43.039 ask what state of decompositions bodies? And at this point it was pretty good. 543 00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.519 It was still pretty good, Like you still see facial features and I 544 00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:51.280 you know that happens with bogs, Like bodies that get put in bogs kind 545 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:57.519 of get preserved. I mean it was it wasn't too quite to that stage. 546 00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:04.119 It was decomposing, but it was still a kid. You could still 547 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.239 he composed. Was this body we're talking about. So he basically invites the 548 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.760 woman in black to collect her kid or to be like, we're gonna bury 549 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.159 the kid. Everything should be fine. And the woman in black shows up, 550 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:20.079 screams at him, and then disappears, and then he's like, Okay, 551 00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.960 that's it, We're done. I solved it and so he goes back 552 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:30.039 to the train station. Now here's the parts that's completely wild. The maid 553 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:37.760 and his son show up there in this town at the train station to take 554 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:44.760 him home. Why so he's talking to Julius Caesar. The kid wanders off, 555 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:49.239 gets on the railroad tracks. Train comes, Harry Potter jumps down, 556 00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.320 grabs the kid. Daniel Redcliffe sees the woman in black watching him as he 557 00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.639 jumps down to get the kid. And then the next scene, the kid's 558 00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.840 like that day, who is that woman there? And he's like, oh, 559 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.960 that's mummy and he goes up to the to this woman. They hold 560 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:10.599 hands and walk off down the tracks. So obviously they die, but they 561 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.079 are reunited in death. He hooks up with the woman in black. No, 562 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.519 no, no, this was his wife. Yeah, the woman in 563 00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.920 black is there before he gets hit by the train. And then it ends 564 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:30.119 with the woman in black staring at the camera as she watches them. I'm 565 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.599 sorry, I've got the summary here. Apparently she watches the happy family reunited. 566 00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.119 She doesn't then she and then she looks at the camera. Breaks the 567 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.599 fourth wall. So Harry Potter and the kid die and getting hit by the 568 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.960 train, Yes, but they are reunited with the so it's kind of a 569 00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:52.079 maccab happy ending. He dies a lot in his movies. It's better than 570 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:57.840 the eighty nine version. I think there was a lot more to it. 571 00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.440 It's not perfect, but they did, I think what that original movie did 572 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.480 not have, which was crank up the creepy factor, make the Woman in 573 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.639 Black much more of a character in it, much more hands on, and 574 00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:13.880 there were a lot more like you know, he goes into the kid's room 575 00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.440 and the rocking chairs rocking on its own, and then it just stops. 576 00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:22.079 There's a lot of like dolls in the new one that they thought the jobst 577 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:27.719 creepiest faces. So you know, there's a lot of little details that are 578 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.199 in our zeitgeist in the horror genre now that are added in and I think 579 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:36.280 do make it better. It sounds like they up the atmosphere, which wasn't 580 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.079 really a neat thing because if you think about it, Beetlejuice was a year 581 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:45.440 older than than True Woman in Black and that thing's full of atmosphere. It's 582 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.440 kind of tim Burton esque, but it's still atmosphere like it's it was a 583 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.599 concept back then. It's it's a strange decision not to include it. I 584 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.239 mean, and maybe they tried, but it seemed like they just used the 585 00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:59.920 location as is, Like it wasn't It wasn't like they really tried to splice 586 00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:00.960 it up any I mean, sure they filled it with fog, but that 587 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.920 was also part of the storyline, like they needed a fog in there. 588 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.800 So nitpicking. But yeah, so anyways, so that's uh, that's the 589 00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:12.920 woman in black. I keep on the lady in black. It is not 590 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:16.039 it is the woman in black. She was not a lady, definitely not 591 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:20.000 a lady. I don't know if this was your fun fact zinger or not, 592 00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.480 but a little bit of irony. The dude that played the lawyer in 593 00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:30.159 the first one was James Potter in the Harry Potter films, Harry Potter's Dad. 594 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.800 Yeah, life imitates art comes full circle, the world turns again. 595 00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.360 Yes, that that that that was pretty interesting thought. Harry Potter's dad was 596 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.920 dead. That was not the point. He was an orphan. No, 597 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.679 no, no, but but of course he plays his dad when he's able 598 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.679 to see his dad. Of course magic. Oh the dad shows up. 599 00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:50.880 Yeah, he's I've only seen the first Harry Potter and there was no dad 600 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:58.039 in that one. I don't think it was. I don't remember. Okay, 601 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:06.039 that's I believe you. That's no, it's Philosopher's Stone. And then 602 00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.960 Philosopher's Stone in England, Sorcerer's Stone in America. There we go. Yeah, 603 00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:15.719 Harry Potter came to America. Yeah, God, this is it? 604 00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:21.519 Happened after the it's the it's the Testament of Harry Potter in America. Come 605 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.480 on, I showed him in Missouri, Harry Potter and Latter Day Saints. 606 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:31.119 That's right, Harry in the Church of Latter Day Saints. Oh man, 607 00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:35.280 this is gonna be a new Testament to Harry Potter. It's a brand new 608 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.840 empathy. Um. I actually this fun another fun fact. This is actually 609 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.679 based on a book. So interesting. Oh wait we said that earlier. 610 00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:52.000 Yeah, a novel apparently a whole last novel. Um. In the book, 611 00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.880 however, they are killed when when with a horse and buggy collision, 612 00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.519 which I guess was just too much to annim I mean to put into film, 613 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.639 because instead they just had a tree fall on them, tree branch all 614 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.000 on them in sync about I would have loved to have seen this epic horse 615 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:19.960 collision just just just exactly there's these two horse characters just slamming into each other 616 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.800 for thirty seconds of screaming. You know, it's funny, and this has 617 00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:28.800 nothing to do with anything other than what you just said. Justin but where 618 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:34.480 where I grew up in Ohio the very first They call it an automobile accident, 619 00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.920 but they don't mean they don't mean cars, They mean like horse and 620 00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.719 buggy. A guy got drunk and was riding his buggy home and flipped it 621 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.840 and it rolled over and popped his head off. And it was the first 622 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:49.639 ever fatality in a automobile or in a I can't remember, a vehicle or 623 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:51.360 whatever. I don't know how they word it. But there's like a little 624 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.840 plaque in this little village near where I grew up, and every time I 625 00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:57.559 go by there, I'm like, that's like the very first death in Ohio 626 00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.719 based on automo, not automo. I keep saying automobile, but it was 627 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.079 a horse and buggy that killed him, So whatever word they used, vehicle, 628 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.639 I suppose. But that's that's my twod bit. I have nothing to 629 00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:13.599 offer on the film, so I just final thoughts are, Hey, guess 630 00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.840 what happened at Ohio this week? This is what happened in my hometown two 631 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.920 hundred years ago? Or what are your final thoughts for this one? The 632 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:24.400 fact this movie both has a sequel in book form and in movie form disappoint 633 00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:29.519 me to no end, and the fact they exist. I don't have any 634 00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:35.199 interest in seeing them overall. I like I said, I don't think our 635 00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:40.440 main character deserves the terrible torment and death the god. I did like him 636 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:46.079 choking out his boss randomly and burning half of his firm down because he lost 637 00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:52.239 it. I also like how the fireman starts yelling at him for burning the 638 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:57.159 place down too. It was a different time where fireman could walk into places 639 00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.800 and start yelling at people for why did you do this? And I was 640 00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:04.280 like a great fireman said what I wanted to say. Though the guy's thrown 641 00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.559 Let let me fill everybody in really quick. He's going through this trunk that 642 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.320 arrived from the woman in Black's house, and he's like freaking out with every 643 00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:13.679 item he pulls out. He's looking for something, I think, but I 644 00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.679 didn't catch it in the plot. So he's thrown papers and papers and throwing 645 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:20.760 them toward the fireplace, not in it, toward it, and then they're 646 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.440 all like hanging out onto the carpet and onto the floor, and he's like, 647 00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:27.480 that's good enough, and he douses it with some flammable liquid. I 648 00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:31.199 can't remember what I was seeing, they say in there. No, No, 649 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.519 it was I can't remember, they say in the film. And it's 650 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:42.360 something that's not normally used. Petroleum. Yes, it was petrol, I 651 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.880 believe. So anyway, so he's like, covers all these financial documents with 652 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:50.320 this flammable liquid and just lights it up and the carpets on fire, and 653 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.920 like he's just standing in there looking at it, and he's putting it in 654 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:54.119 the fireplace. Yeah, and then he's like, oh, the trunk. 655 00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:58.679 So he douses that thing and flammable liquid and throws it on the ground like 656 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:00.840 he doesn't even bother and the whole thing burns down. And the whole time 657 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.599 I'm yelling at him, what are you doing? You're gonna cut your whole 658 00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.960 office on fire. And I guess that was the point he lost his marbles. 659 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.880 Now that it is a fun question was he crazy the whole time? 660 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:16.880 Because I pointed out that that the eel manner whatever burned down too, And 661 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:23.679 did he destroy all the stuff in the kid's room as he was trying to 662 00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:27.920 the fireplace. Yeah, he doesn't know how to use a fireplace. This 663 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.679 is the problem. He doesn't know how to use a fireplace. He's just 664 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:36.840 like fire make O. That's very cave man ask of you today, justin 665 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:45.199 that's like place fire, sleeveless burn. Is it my turn for my opinion? 666 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.559 Yeah? Did you get your final thoughts out? This is what happens 667 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:52.119 when the films are or I'll say the word boring for lack of a better 668 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:54.880 term. But it makes it hard to do these shows. Like it's hard 669 00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:58.760 to talk about these sometimes because it's like what do you talk about? Like, 670 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:00.719 I don't want to harp on all the bad things this thing did because 671 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:07.199 it is thirty something, you're thirty three years old or whatever. Oh yeah, 672 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:09.519 it makes your shiver just to say that. But you know, you 673 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:12.639 don't want to rag on the whole thing the whole time. But at the 674 00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.559 same time, like, there really wasn't a lot redeeming about it. Like 675 00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:19.880 I said earlier, it could have been boiled down to a ten fifteen minute 676 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:23.079 short, and I think that would have been boring. Honestly, I see 677 00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:27.199 why they did a remake of it. It has meat on the bone where 678 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.519 you can add to this story, and it has that nostalgia to it, 679 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:34.239 so I understand why they would take that gamble. I'm anxious to see the 680 00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.000 new version of it, even though David just gave the entire plot away for 681 00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:45.199 us. I might spoiler alert by the way, guys I've ever done talking 682 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.880 about it. I don't know. If you have a boring night and you 683 00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.920 have your phone out and you're drinking some beer or something, maybe put it 684 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:55.039 on in the background just to see what we're talking about. But certainly don't 685 00:49:55.119 --> 00:50:00.320 run and watch this film. I couldn't agree. This is such a low 686 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:07.800 burn you. You really have to be committed to watching British made for television 687 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:12.519 films of the eighties to make it through this thing. It's so slow, 688 00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.639 and I do think that the newer version does a much better job of cutting 689 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:21.880 to the chase and getting to the stuff that's juicier and just more interesting all 690 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:25.239 around. I don't I guess that the story ends better in the new one 691 00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:30.519 than the It's kind of weird because in the in the old version, the 692 00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:36.440 woman follows them to London. She's not stuck in this little Seaside Town, 693 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:42.000 which is kind of a weird ghost rule breaking, I think, But it 694 00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:46.440 is very hard to watch if you're not actively trying to be like, oh, 695 00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:50.159 let's let's just see what this is. And you know, I'm going 696 00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:52.960 to make a point to watch this whole thing, So take that as you 697 00:50:53.000 --> 00:51:00.519 will. I guess that's not a great endorsement of this thing, but at 698 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.760 the time, I think it's what interests me the most about it is that 699 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:10.840 it was so well received and went straight to legend basically when it when it 700 00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:15.119 aired, and then because it wasn't re aired until like five years later, 701 00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:20.679 it it added to the legend. And I think that's why it occupies such 702 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:25.159 a place in people's hearts, and the nostalgia really rings true for them. 703 00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:29.960 So, um, if you're gonna watch it, watch both compare them, 704 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.320 you know, if you got the time, uh, and if not, 705 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.920 you could you could take a pass if you want. That's my thought that 706 00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:42.039 one scene you can find, the one scene if you just type in the 707 00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.239 woman in black, that scene, you know, the one I'm talking about, 708 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.599 that probably would get through. Pull it up for you and turn your 709 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:57.159 speakers down to about I mean this, they make the sound that Jim Carey 710 00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:04.000 makes in Dumb and Dummer. That's exactly the sound. It's exactly the sound. 711 00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.199 I guess the New One was successful. They say it grossed two hundred 712 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:13.920 and thirty worldwide, so that's probably what a forty fifty million dollar movie something 713 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:15.480 like that, I would guess. I would guess it might be a little 714 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:19.480 bit good. Yeah, I think it's very well made, the New One. 715 00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:23.639 I don't know if it's necessarily great, but fifteen to seventeen million box 716 00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:31.559 office one hundred and sev that's good. That's a good return. In reality, 717 00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:36.280 it's probably ten ten million more than that, so it's still a really 718 00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:39.360 good return. But they always fudge those numbers a little bit. So that's 719 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:44.480 that's the woman Black. Thanks for listening to this round table. Let's go 720 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.960 around and tell everybody where they can find more of us Zinger. Let's start 721 00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.639 with you. Oh, you can of correspond me every week on the Zingis 722 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:59.840 podcast talking about nerdy topics and since we are in um patent pending Zectober. 723 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:04.119 Oh sorry, yeah, I would say we did this exact same Joe last 724 00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.159 year too. Um, we're we're covering more paranormal stuff like that. So 725 00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:12.039 definitely check us out. Otherwise, we're covering basically anything pop culture, including 726 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.960 movies, TV shows, and everything nerdy that is. 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