1 00:00:05,839 --> 00:00:09,880 Hi everyone. This is Christina and this is MJ. And this is another 2 00:00:09,919 --> 00:00:14,679 episode of a Spooky Tales, the podcast for all things as spooky. Today 3 00:00:14,839 --> 00:00:18,679 we have a lovely guest with us. Go ahead and introduce yourselves. Say 4 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:23,160 hi to everyone. Hi, y spookies. I'm Azrael. My friend has 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,679 a really good podcast called Adoptees Crossing Lines and you should check it out if 6 00:00:27,679 --> 00:00:31,039 you're interested. It is really good. I'll put it in the show notes. 7 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:39,119 I appreciate it. Yeah, and today I have a dream topic. 8 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,079 Yeah, it's like storty creepy pasta. And then Asta has a story for 9 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,119 us. But first I have a listeners story. And if you have a 10 00:00:47,119 --> 00:00:50,439 story that you want to send into the podcast, you can email at Spookytoes 11 00:00:50,439 --> 00:00:54,320 at gmail dot com. You can DM us on any of our socials. 12 00:00:55,399 --> 00:00:58,600 You can submit it on Discord. There's a lot of options. You can 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,439 also call our spooky hotline and we'll play it in the episode. I think 14 00:01:02,439 --> 00:01:04,640 those are Yeah, there's a lot of ways you'll see it in the show 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,760 notes. This was sent in through Patreon, so yeah, if you have 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,400 us on if you're on Patreon's that's another super fast way for me to see 17 00:01:12,439 --> 00:01:18,719 the message, so lots of options. All right, So here's this story. 18 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:22,400 Hey Christina and MJ. I'm Jessica. I've been listening to your podcast 19 00:01:22,439 --> 00:01:25,400 for over a year and I love it. Thank you, thank you. 20 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,760 I've been meaning to tell you this story since I happened pretty recently. Last 21 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:33,480 month. My best friend Medium and I were going to Moore Park to stay 22 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:37,120 with my sisters since we were going to a concert. Medium and I were 23 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:40,719 the only ones driving from San Diego. I went and picked her up and 24 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,799 I had helped her put her stuff in the rear hatch. We had put 25 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:48,359 our bags next to each other, and Medium had brought a cowgirl hat so 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,719 she can wear it to the concert. I saw her with my own eyes 27 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,200 put it on top of the bags. We head out and I put on 28 00:01:56,239 --> 00:02:01,040 your podcast, specifically the episode Encounters with Now. We listened to it, 29 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:08,879 joking around about the when this oh God moved and how we don't want to 30 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,039 speak too much of them because they will show up. We stopped for dinner 31 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,840 in Irvine, and since I borrowed this car from work, as I was 32 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,439 leaving, I made sure to triple check the car was locked. We have 33 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,360 dinner and do the rest of the drive. We make it there and start 34 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:29,759 to unload things when we realized Medium's hat is gone, like missing, disappeared 35 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,560 without a trace. We were thinking where could it have gone. We made 36 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,520 sure to check the car was locked when we left it, and all of 37 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,120 our bags were still there, including my backpack that had a couple hundred dollars 38 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,800 in it. Like if someone broke into the car, everything would be gone, 39 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,400 not just the cowgirl hat. Medium talked to her mom that night and 40 00:02:49,439 --> 00:02:52,319 she searched the house to see if she left it there, but we knew 41 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,360 she didn't because we both saw her put it in the rear hatch. Her 42 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,680 mom didn't find it, and a month later, the hat is still am 43 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,080 I A. We literally still think about what happened to that hat, but 44 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,919 honestly we blame dwend This. Thanks for taking the time to read my story. 45 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:14,199 Yes, yes, I think it was the dwend This when this heard 46 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,039 and they were like, oh, you think we're a joke, you think 47 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:22,280 this is funny. No, this hat is ours now that's what happened. 48 00:03:24,719 --> 00:03:29,240 Also, let us know if the hat is back. I've heard sometimes you 49 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:32,919 can just be like like cause the custo Dwendo's out and demand your stuff back 50 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,680 and like it randomly reappears. I asked them, Okay, guys, can 51 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,120 you please give me my stuff back? Thank you? That's a lot nicer. 52 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:45,840 Yeah, and it does work sometimes. Okay, well, maybe just 53 00:03:45,879 --> 00:03:49,520 do it that way, like being in airhead and just like forgetting your left 54 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,840 ship. But either way, I'm gonna pretend it's tod this. Maybe you 55 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:58,800 could trade them, like offer them a hat and ask for your hat back. 56 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:02,879 Oh yeah, that that could work too. Yeah. I always used 57 00:04:02,919 --> 00:04:05,719 to blame like doing this, like losing my stuff in Karmen's like, no, 58 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,039 it's just you because you lose things all the time, and I'm like, 59 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,960 no, but it is, it is me. It could be both. 60 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,639 Yeah, you know what, it's probably the one this so two day's 61 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:25,199 topic that I brought. Have either of you heard of this man? No? 62 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:28,560 I don't think so. All right, I'm gonna send you a picture 63 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:30,600 in the chat. All right, could you can you guys see that? 64 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:36,720 Oh my, I know that guy. Yes, yes, you know this 65 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,560 Yeah, I know of this man. Yes, this man. Yes, 66 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,959 So that's what I'm talking about today, this man. And I forgot that 67 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,480 I heard this story. So At first, I was like, I forgot 68 00:04:51,519 --> 00:04:54,800 to existed. But let me go back to my notes here. Okay, 69 00:04:54,839 --> 00:05:00,680 So first I'm just going to start with the creepy pasta that exists. In 70 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:04,439 January two six, in New York, the patient of a well known psychiatrist 71 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,480 draws the face of a man that has been repeatedly appearing in her dreams. 72 00:05:10,199 --> 00:05:13,800 In more than one occasion, that man has given her advice on her private 73 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,720 life. The woman swears she has never met the man in her life. 74 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,000 That portrait lies forgotten on the psychiatrist's desk for a few days, until one 75 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:27,399 day, another patient recognizes that face and says that the man has often visited 76 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,360 him in his dreams. He also claims he has never seen that man in 77 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:34,839 his waking life. The psychiatrist decides to send the portrait to some of his 78 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:41,279 colleagues that have patients with recurrent dreams. Within a few months, four patients 79 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,759 recognize the man as a frequent presence in their own dreams. All the patients 80 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:54,319 referred to him as this man in capslock or capital letters whatever. From two 81 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:58,920 dozen six until today, at least eight thousand people have claimed to see this 82 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,040 man in their dream in many cities all over the world. Los Angeles, 83 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Gua, La La Hara, Berlin, Sau Paolo, Beijing, Rung, 84 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,959 Barcelona, you get it everywhere. At the moment, there is no ascertained 85 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,120 relation or comment trait among the people that have dreamed of seeing this man. 86 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:23,680 Moreover, no living man has ever been recognized as resembling the man of the 87 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,240 portrait by the people who have seen this man in their dreams. And that's 88 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:33,199 the creepy pasta. However, like, regardless of this like being known as 89 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,399 a creepy pasta, people keep claiming they've seen this man and it was debunked 90 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:42,800 like in I don't know, four years ago, maybe five years ago. 91 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:49,360 It's actually like a marketing ploy that was made by this sociologist slash marketer named 92 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:57,519 Andrea Natella, which is very close to Nutella Naela. Interesting, that's not 93 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:00,199 like, has nothing to do with this, but anyway, she has a 94 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:05,000 marketing company and they started the website this man dot org and they started putting 95 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,519 posters of this man everywhere, and then people were like, oh, I've 96 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,160 seen this man. I hate that it's called this man. It's too like 97 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,920 you say times, Yeah, it's so generic and that just makes this all 98 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:23,879 so much worse. But still like this. She was interviewed by Vice dot 99 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:29,399 Com, where she still pretends the story is real and then like I don't 100 00:07:29,399 --> 00:07:31,040 know their next article, like in a few days, we're like, oh 101 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:33,879 my god, we were fooled. This has actually been debunked. And they 102 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,600 talked to someone from her company and they like admit it all. And it's 103 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:43,759 not really known why they all they went through this too, this whole campaign. 104 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:46,279 It's believed this was supposed to be a horror movie that then never got 105 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:50,920 made, so it's not confirmed like why they started this campaign. But even 106 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:57,439 then, like people still claim to see this man. I just hate saying 107 00:07:57,439 --> 00:08:03,399 this man. Have either you seen this man? I've seen the picture. 108 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:07,720 You haven't seen him in your dream? Now? Yeah, I mean neither. 109 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:13,240 But we'll be sharing this picture on Instagram. But I'll describe it a 110 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,279 little bit. He's a creepy he has a creepy face. He looks like 111 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:26,439 he tortured animals and his youth. He really looks like this guy I was 112 00:08:26,519 --> 00:08:35,279 in the mental hospital with in New York City in the early two Oh my 113 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:41,000 god, oh my god, No, I'm sorry, it's just it's just 114 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:46,519 really random, just really random, like the same uner brow. But wow, 115 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:52,080 oh my god, I was like drinking water, he said. I 116 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:58,399 was like to die. Oh man, I'm this is this is funny. 117 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:09,320 Just all the water was like, Okay, you're not going down my throw 118 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,679 and you're also not going all over my computer. Oh my god. But 119 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:18,480 it appears to be a white man, like honestly to me, with like 120 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:24,840 a round, weird small face, like thick eyebrows. It's almost a unibrow, 121 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:28,480 is it. You know, I think it's a unibrow. It's at 122 00:09:28,519 --> 00:09:33,799 least unibrow adjacent. Yeah yeah, and like literally like thick ass eyebrows, 123 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:41,279 like very thick. Yes, a weird half smile, weird small ear yeah, 124 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,679 and like a really thin upper lip uh huh yeah yeah it's almost not 125 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:54,559 there, which is why I think it's a white man. And also a 126 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:01,039 very soft chin. Yes, yeah, yeah, it's very soft chin. 127 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:07,240 I'm very like there's someone just randomly. They've never said if they drew this 128 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,679 after someone or if they just drew something randomly, Like the company has never 129 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,639 said, I don't know, I'm wonderine, and like throughout the years, 130 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,639 there's been people that are like oh it looks like this guy, or it 131 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:24,440 looks like this guy, and honestly it doesn't. So again, like regardless 132 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:30,639 of this being confirmed fake, like this is a marketing employ people insist they 133 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,320 see him. There's stories of him just like being in people's dreams. I'm 134 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,519 really doing anything. There's other stories of him, of people being intimate with 135 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:46,080 him, those four people. Can you just imagine this guy leaning in for 136 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,679 a kid? Listen, I'm not trying to be mean, because like I 137 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:52,919 am a confirmed believer. Everybody's pretty in their own way. But oh, 138 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:58,360 yeah, you're right this Yeah, but there's also like a whole energy that 139 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:01,320 goes with this dude. Yeah, that's true. He has like a really 140 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:07,519 like creepy energy and like yeah, like Peeping Tom energy. Yes, and 141 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,960 I'm not about that, yes, yeah, yeah, I'm maybe there's people 142 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,879 out there there who are there's also people that fall in love with him and 143 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:22,080 his in their dreams. Is he like a billionaire in his dreams in their 144 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:28,200 dreams? Because you know, I might even look at that, look at 145 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:35,200 how beautiful that money as though I'm kidding. I've said this on no other 146 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,320 podcast with Carming. We're watching right now, and I'm like Teresa would be 147 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:43,879 very disappointed in me because like I did not marry for money, but like 148 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:50,759 all the money in the world would not make me marry this this man would 149 00:11:50,799 --> 00:11:56,720 be like, but it would make me Actually are My group chat with my 150 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:03,360 mom and Carmen is called the Sea like we've let there sat down, And 151 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,879 if you've watched the soap opera, you know what we're talking about. If 152 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:09,879 you haven't, then you should watch it or listen to the podcast either one. 153 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:16,039 So there's also been people that have dreams of killing him in their in 154 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:22,039 their own dreams, and there's also stories of him like hunting houses. Outside 155 00:12:22,039 --> 00:12:28,000 of dreams, people claim to see his apparition. So I don't know, 156 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:33,759 that's even worse. That's even worse than falling in love in love with him, 157 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:37,799 I don't know. I think falling in love is worse. I don't 158 00:12:37,799 --> 00:12:41,240 know. At least I mean one at least it's in't just in your dream. 159 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,559 The other one you're like seeing it in person. That's true, That's 160 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:52,679 very true. So I found several different stories from Latin America of people seeing 161 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:56,360 this man and these are all from there's the whole Facebook group dedicated to this 162 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,559 man. I'm so sorry for all the times I'm gonna say this man, 163 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:07,159 I'm already getting to my own nerves. So these stories are from that Facebook 164 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,879 group. So this one is a dream from Mexico. They're all pretty short. 165 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,080 Two nights ago, I had a dream where this man approached me when 166 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,759 I was in my room playing the guitar. He asked me if he could 167 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:24,399 stay the night in my room. I immediately ran to the bathroom. My 168 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:30,120 fear and desperation was so bad that I immediately woke up by looking on the 169 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,399 internet for the description of this guy. One guy showed me this page. 170 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,799 And now I'm fucking scared because I'm not the only one who has seen this 171 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:45,360 man d Although in this dream, if you never saw this man before, 172 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:50,320 I don't know why he was scared. That is true. It's step Vibe 173 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,960 Vibe. Yeah, you're right, You're right, it is the vibe. 174 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:00,320 This one is a dream from Ecuador. I had a dream with the man 175 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,559 since my father left me. In my dreams, he does pretty much anything, 176 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:07,679 but he's there. He had never talked to me, he never moved, 177 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,519 He's just there. I always have the same dream when I am in 178 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,559 the US in New York, specifically in Times Square. He's there just standing 179 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:22,960 and watching my father enter a store. I've had this dream since I was 180 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:28,840 eight years old. It's now been years, and this man has tormented me 181 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,600 since then. Sounds creepy, that's creepy. That is creepy. Sounds worse. 182 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,600 It's it's so much worse because like this poor person's father has left them, 183 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:43,960 and then since they were abandoned by their own father, they have the 184 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:46,720 same dream that their dad is walking into a store and this man is just 185 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:54,000 staring from like across the street. Was now almost like almost like it was 186 00:14:54,039 --> 00:15:00,440 like ominous, like this man took your dad. No, yeah, I 187 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,120 don't like it. I don't like it. This one is a dream from 188 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,919 Argentina. Hello. I remember I usually dreamt about this man when I was 189 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:13,600 little. Well, they were more like nightmares. They were red tinted like 190 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,440 hell, and his face was on my TV monitor, my computer monitor, 191 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,399 every monitor in my house. From that point, I always thought he was 192 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:28,080 Satan or something like that because he looked evil. But I realized he never 193 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:31,840 talked to me. He just looked at me. What does smirk? And 194 00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:37,480 their room was filled with weird noise like when TV has no signal like static. 195 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,360 When I tried to turn out the TV by disconnecting it, it kept 196 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:45,679 going. That was the scariest part because I couldn't do anything. It was 197 00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:50,279 between two thousand and eight and twenty thirteen. Then they stopped and I never 198 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:54,200 dreamt it again. It's the vibe. I don't like it. I don't 199 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,840 like it so creepy. Just just I mean, I don't know. Just 200 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,759 imagine seeing that face when you're trying to microwave something and it's just in the 201 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:04,879 I don't know, if it was in the microwave, that'd be weird. 202 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,480 Oh my god. I'm just like leaving my food there. I'm like, 203 00:16:07,559 --> 00:16:17,159 whatever I'm doing, I'm never eating again. Okay, So this is a 204 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,720 dream from Peru. I was in a building with school friends and a childhood 205 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,960 friend. We had gone out partying and then returned in the morning when my 206 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,759 friends told me to go up to the top floor of that building, which 207 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,080 was the eighth floor. When I arrived, they told me that my childhood 208 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:41,080 friend had fallen from the building and his older brother pushed him. I was 209 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:47,559 very upset and I said I will get justice with my own hands, and 210 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:55,559 this man offered a snacks and I saw on the ladder and he walked behind 211 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:02,000 my friend grabbed my leg twice. I spit on him. Oh my god. 212 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:04,640 First, how does he go from like offering sandwiches so then being like 213 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:10,960 this rude ass person? And he turned around and looked at me with a 214 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:15,559 terrifying look. He moved his head and then he kept walking. Then I 215 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,880 was on the first floor. It was all empty except for this man. 216 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:26,799 He walked next to me, pushed me, and as I was falling, 217 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:33,119 I felt like I hit my entire body like it felt real, especially my 218 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:40,799 head. And in my dream I was about to die. Oh, oh, 219 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:47,160 terrifying dream. As I was laying there dying, this man approached me, 220 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:52,680 oh like got really close to his face and then he woke up crying. 221 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:59,880 I was like nope, wow, and then let me just read the 222 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:03,960 last part. I didn't know who this man was until I came across the 223 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:08,039 picture of him. Every time I see his face, I get goosebumps and 224 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,200 feel like crying again. There's something about him, like, even if it's 225 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:17,599 just like a psychological thing, there's something about like his features. They're like 226 00:18:17,839 --> 00:18:25,279 uncanny Valley. Yes, agree, Yeah, watches all dreys dream about him 227 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,119 tonight, just because we were talking about him and we saw his picture and 228 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,400 I don't know how many times he saw his picture. I take it back. 229 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:41,240 I don't want it. I mean either, what if like the dream 230 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:47,480 world is populated just like this world is, and he's just like this random 231 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,440 person from the dream world and we remember what he looks like because he's just 232 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:56,720 really unique looking and got that. Yeah, it's so weird because to me, 233 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:02,799 he's very weird looking but also so very generic, like where if if 234 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:06,680 he was in a crowd somewhere, he would never stand out, but if 235 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,400 it was in my dreams, he'd creep me out. He would there. 236 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,599 Yeah, like there's something about him, like it's it's there's nothing spectacular about 237 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:21,720 his features, but it's still very like put if you put all the features 238 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,400 that he has together, it's weird. He looks weird. Yeah, yep, 239 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:33,799 it's strange, very very strange. But yeah, that's my story for 240 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:41,160 today. Thank you in advance for the nightmares. You're welcome. You're welcome. 241 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:48,000 So my story has a lot to do with dreams. Also, I'm 242 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:55,559 adopted obviously, so my adoption was not great. My adoptive family didn't believe 243 00:19:55,599 --> 00:20:03,680 in anything supernatural. They were warm Jews, but like pretty atheist. I 244 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,400 guess, like they didn't have like ghosts were not real, Like there was 245 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:12,160 none of that. So when I was little, I used to have all 246 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,960 these dreams because they told me that, oh you're you're just white, You're 247 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:23,279 just a white a white lady. And so I would always ask like, 248 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:29,160 but where did I come from? And what uh like what nationality are my 249 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:33,839 parents? Yeah, like natural normal questions that you want to know, totally 250 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:40,200 totally normal questions that any kid would ask. And like in my dreams, 251 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:45,599 I would always be dreaming about people who, like I didn't think could be 252 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,440 related to me, just like random people Like I used to have dreams like 253 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:59,519 I had a lot of dreams about owls, m oh oh okay, And 254 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:03,319 I had a lot of dreams about my identity and they weren't matching up with 255 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:10,119 like the things that my parents, my adoptive parents told me. And I 256 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,400 sometimes feel like I was talking to my partner today and I sometimes feel like 257 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,359 they kind of got like, you know, there's all those stories about like 258 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:26,119 creepy orphans and stuff like creepy adopted orphans, I swear like my adopt like 259 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:32,640 I was that to my adoptive mom, Like there would be phone calls and 260 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,960 I'd be like, it's the babysitter, and like she would pick it up 261 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,440 and it would be the babysitter. Oh my god. And I think I 262 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:47,240 just like really creeped them out. For so when I got to be a 263 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:52,599 teenager, I think it was like also causing behavioral issues for me because like 264 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,799 I didn't know. I wanted to know who I was, you know. 265 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,720 And also the dreams of the owls, Like when I was really little, 266 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,480 they scared the ship out of me. And I was a kid in New 267 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:06,759 York City, so it's not like I had ever seen an owl. Yeah, 268 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:10,119 well, like what would happen in these dreams? Okay, So when 269 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,240 I was really little, I used to have this recurring dream about an owl 270 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:18,480 sitting in a tree and there was just like chaos going on, like there 271 00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:23,000 was cats and it was like in kind of like a cartoon. And then 272 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,680 like as I got older, it was like more and more realistic. The 273 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:33,440 owl got more and more realistic. That's interesting, but like the owl would 274 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,920 be yelling to me and I and it was like trying to tell me something, 275 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,359 but I couldn't really understand, and it was just like I was afraid. 276 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,960 I didn't know what it was trying to tell me. And I would 277 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,759 wake up and I'd cry to my parents, like my adoptive parents, and 278 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:52,160 I'm like I'm having nightmares, like and they're like it's nothing, just go 279 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,839 to bed, like you're just just go to sleep and please go to sleep. 280 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:03,480 So so like as I got older, my dreams became like more and 281 00:23:03,559 --> 00:23:08,440 more crazy, and they ended up like putting me on medication. And like 282 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,720 I said, I was in the mental hospital with this man and with this 283 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:22,279 man. So there's just like a lot of that. And for my whole 284 00:23:22,279 --> 00:23:26,440 life, my whole childhood, like weird, just weird, random stuff would 285 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:33,359 happen. And then I got older and my birth mom found me and one 286 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,039 of the first questions I asked her for some reason was am I Mexican? 287 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:45,440 And and She's like, yeah, you are, okay, and and I 288 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,079 was like I knew it, Like I knew it. Just that's what the 289 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,799 Alans were telling you there, like Mexican, Mexican, and you're a witch. 290 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,200 Part of that. Like when I was little, I would tell people 291 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,319 all the time like I'm a witch, and it would creep out my adoptive 292 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:11,240 parents. And then when I met my family, I found out that that 293 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,480 was totally normal, Like it was totally normal, Like I had dreams about 294 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:22,000 people dying before they died. I so I and that like really put it. 295 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,640 They did not my family, my adoptive family did not like that. 296 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:34,119 I bet, yeah, that doesn't happen in temple, right. So when 297 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:41,279 I met my great grandmother on my mom's side and I started like getting to 298 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:45,240 know them, I realized that this was like a thing that happened to every 299 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:51,920 woman in my biological family. Is they all had dreams, premonition dreams. 300 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,960 They would like know when people were sick and all of this stuff. And 301 00:24:57,599 --> 00:25:03,640 it was just really creepy, like like you were literally telling people that you 302 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,279 were a witch because you were, but you didn't even know it, Like 303 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,000 that's wild. I did not even know it. And the crazy part is 304 00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:18,200 that between like when I was I think like eight seventeen eighteen, I really 305 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,480 stopped believing in all of this. Like I was a scientist, I worked, 306 00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:27,240 I was a herpetologist for a well known zoo. I well, that 307 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,960 sounds fancy. I don't know what a herpetologist is. In Latin, it 308 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,720 means the study of creeping things. It's oh, that sounds cool, okay, 309 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:41,000 like it's reptiles and amphibians. Oh, oh my god, that's awesome. 310 00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:45,839 Yeah. I loved it. It was really cool. I learned so 311 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,759 much, and like I worked in a marine biolab and I was like totally 312 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:55,920 science minded. I did not believe in any in any of this stuff at 313 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:02,319 all, Like I was hardcore. Even when it took me like a while 314 00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:07,000 to accept that these things weren't, like, you know, a mental illness, 315 00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,799 I really thought like, oh no, it's just me being crazy, 316 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:18,119 you know. But as I was like meeting my family more, I I 317 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:25,319 sort of started to like appreciate it more. And then so I also met 318 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,960 the other side of my family, my biological father's side, and the cousin 319 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:36,200 that I met was also actually both cousins that I met from that side were 320 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,480 witches too. Wow, like the whole family. Yes, And I even 321 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:48,240 had so my great aunt she was a brucha in Chicago, like, and 322 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,480 her brother that's my great grandfather, and he was like a zoot suit kind 323 00:26:53,519 --> 00:27:04,519 of gangster type guy. And he murdered her husband been so she no, 324 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,480 so he murdered his sister's husband, and she put a curse on him and 325 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:22,440 all of his descendants. And so when I met my cousin, she's like, 326 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:29,480 you have a curse, and like here's she's like you and you probably 327 00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:33,039 have a curse, and like here's how you can you know, help, 328 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,319 like do some ancestral healing. And the freaky part was that I had already 329 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,880 started doing that, Like I didn't. I didn't really, I didn't know 330 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,000 about any of this stuff. And it was like my intuition has been there 331 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,519 the whole time. My adoptive family couldn't make me a normy like them, 332 00:27:52,559 --> 00:28:00,240 Like they tried. They tried so hard. They put thousands and thousand some 333 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,559 dollars into it, like meds for my whole life, and it did not 334 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,920 work, like at all, Like I live in the woods with a black 335 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:14,920 cat, you know, amazing, Oh my god, Like yeah, yeah, 336 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:22,200 amazing. Yeah. So it's been really crazy. Like my great grandma 337 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:29,079 before she died, like taught me all about how to listen to my dreams 338 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,559 and read the signs and like protect myself from energies and stuff. And I 339 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:41,960 think it's so crazy that people don't really treasure these little things that get passed 340 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,480 down because it really is, it's you know, it's still it's part of 341 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:51,160 the family culture, and to me, that's sacred. It is, yeah, 342 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:56,599 it really is. It really really is. And it's just you know, 343 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:03,359 it is crazy that instead of like nurturing it, you know, our 344 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,240 society kind of says like, well, this is a sickness. But like 345 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:12,680 I was a scientist, and I feel like I did really well, Like 346 00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:19,160 I'm published. Oh nothing that anyone would really want to read. It's like 347 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:26,079 you know, research stuff, but published is published, thank you. But 348 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:33,319 like I really I totally bought in to that whole like science life. And 349 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:37,960 then so during this time, like a few a couple of years ago, 350 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:44,200 I started doing ketamine therapy and that's when like I started getting off all my 351 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,160 meds and I had these like wild hallucinations while I was under and like they 352 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,680 were always like like they worked with my dreams to like heal me and like 353 00:29:53,759 --> 00:30:02,359 give me a more clear picture of who I was and my identity and like 354 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:07,559 I was. It was really really healing for me. And I think like 355 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,680 the spirit world and my dream life, like those things were what enabled me 356 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:19,000 to like live a good life still after everything that I've been through. And 357 00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:26,319 I especially like I have one relative, Mayawuelito, and he used to pray 358 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,920 for me, like before I even knew who he was. And I really 359 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:37,359 feel like his love and his praying for me to come home, like I 360 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:42,400 I felt chills right now. Oh my god, that's amazing. And I 361 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,799 just I really feel like his love was protecting me from like a much worse 362 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,000 outcome, because I mean, I lived a rough life, but I have 363 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:59,759 a happy life now and I really, I really do believe that he's like 364 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:06,519 still protecting me and he his love helped me get here. Like I'm podcasting, 365 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,559 I know you're making us all like oh that's amazing, but like I'm 366 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:17,880 even they really are. They really are, and and they don't stop. 367 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,519 Like I told I told another adoptee, like even if you don't know who 368 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:27,519 your ancestors are, they know you, Like our ancestors know us and they 369 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:34,160 love us, and even when they're alive, and even if you're separated from 370 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,839 them, like you know, I really do think that love is sacred. 371 00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:45,000 It's like a sacred energy. And I don't know, I've always felt like 372 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:51,640 that, and I just try to like the more I learn about my families, 373 00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:57,640 the more I understand myself and how I'm not weird, Like I'm just 374 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:05,039 more in to another part of life that maybe a lot of people don't take 375 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:12,200 the time to see. Welcome to our little Hunted break. 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But 392 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:35,920 like my mom and my great grandma, they both had like premonition dreams, 393 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,960 like I've talked about it and other episodes, but like if she dreams a 394 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:45,480 baby someone at my great grandpa he passed away before we met him, and 395 00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:49,759 my mom like you know, obviously everyone loves their grandparents, but like she 396 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,400 absolutely loved them. She was always at their house, like their relationship was 397 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,279 so close, and then obviously migration, like you know, just she didn't 398 00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:00,559 get to see them again before they passed away. But ever since he passed 399 00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:06,680 away, she's she's him in his in her dreams. We would like pray 400 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:08,679 for him to help us out, which, like I know, is like, 401 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,119 oh, other religions are like, oh, you can't pray to other 402 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:15,920 people, But I think with Catholics were all we're all like more spiritual. 403 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,519 Yeah, and so I don't even like I'm not I'm not a practicing Catholic, 404 00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,920 but I will ask still, like my ancestors for help, like oh, 405 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,719 bello, I we're making this long drive. Protect us and not my 406 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,480 grandpa because he passed away too, So we'll be like protect us on this 407 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,920 whatever, keep them safe. Like that's super normal for us, and it's 408 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,320 frowned upon in like other places, but that's what's something we've Yeah, me 409 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,320 neither, that's something we've always done. And so like my mom kind of 410 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,840 just taught us, like they're looking out for you always. And so whenever 411 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:51,559 she dreams my great grandpa like upset, like he's he looks mad in his 412 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,039 dream, like he's not looking at her, or like she'll be trying to 413 00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:57,599 reach him, like he'll be walking somewhere and she's like, oh wait, 414 00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,599 wait for me. I'm trying to catch up, and she can catch up 415 00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:02,800 no matter what. In her dreams. That means like something bad is going 416 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,199 to happen, and it usually it comes true, like someone ends up passing 417 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,280 away after dreams like that, someone in the family, a friend, or 418 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,039 someone ends up like sick, it's it's always always comes true. So like 419 00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:21,280 there's always these legends of like oh, bluecasters are so scary, but that 420 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,800 I think that is like if my mom wanted to get more into blue. 421 00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:29,039 Yeah, it scares her, but like that's she has that gift, Like 422 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,760 I don't have it. I've never even to this day, Like my grandpa 423 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,119 passed away and I just want to dream where I see him and I don't 424 00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:39,519 have them and never remember my dreams anyway, And Carmen she'll message me and 425 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:43,079 be like oh, She'll message both of us and she's like, oh, 426 00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,679 I dreamed that we were all in Mexico and my Yabulita was there and like 427 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:51,440 we all hugged him, and I'm like, oh that's beautiful. But yeah, 428 00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:54,360 I'm like so closed off. But it's like for whoever. And it 429 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,760 can also be like I think a scary scary thing to totally something bad is 430 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,239 going to happen. Yeah, like it's like a like a curse. Yeah 431 00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:07,880 yeah. My grandma called him nightmares. Yeah yeah. Yeah, She's like, 432 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:13,280 why do you want more of those? Like their nightmares? Yeah, 433 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,320 because my mom had the same thing. We remember, I told you, 434 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,119 it's like the day before she got her diagnosis, she had her grandma come 435 00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,559 to her in a dream and say, everything's gonna be all right, You're 436 00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:25,119 gonna be cured. She and then the next day, actually I think not 437 00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:29,559 even the next day. That day, mid day, she got a call 438 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:31,960 it she had cancer. It was crazy, but she already knew she was 439 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,280 going to beat it because that was that she was told. Yeah, it 440 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:43,559 was insane. And then my grandma dreams everything that happens to the family. 441 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,920 So she dreamt when my mom was in a car crash, she dreamt when 442 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,920 my uncle was beaten by the police. She dreamt my mom's diagnosis. It's 443 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,679 crazy. And then we get like two days later, call, hey, 444 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,440 I dreampt this, and my Mom's like, oh, okay, so I 445 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,519 can't hide it from me. You already know. Yeah, we can't hide 446 00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:09,000 anything from my grandmother because she knows. She just knows and dreams. Yeah. 447 00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:13,400 That's how my grandma June was too. She was just like that. 448 00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:19,519 She dreamt, she just she knew everything. And then right before because she 449 00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:23,480 just passed away not that long ago, and I had one of my ketamine 450 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:30,360 infusions right before she went into hospice. She had dementia and she was like 451 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:35,400 sometimes forgetting who I was. But this time, I like had this dream 452 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,320 that her spirit was being called to the next to the next world. But 453 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,920 it wasn't like like we had had a close call before, but this time 454 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:52,239 it felt like she was ready to go, and I was able to like 455 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,840 tell everybody, like, hey, I think Grandma is going to be put 456 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:00,519 in hospice soon. And then like a month later, she was put in 457 00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:07,480 hospice. Damn. Yeah, it's crazy, but I really think that these 458 00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:12,119 things they just run in some families. I really I believe that, like 459 00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:16,679 there's nothing like. So then when I met the other side of my paternal 460 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:22,280 family, this is what my aunt left me. My great aunt left two 461 00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:29,159 tarot decks one and there's two like her and her sister each had a grand 462 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,920 baby and that's me and my cousin, and so there was one deck for 463 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,159 each of us. And like so it's literally for me on on all the 464 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:45,519 sides. Yeah, it was just it was mind blowing to to like because 465 00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:50,480 I was a total like did not believe in any of this at all at 466 00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:54,599 all, like just edgy atheist, like no, none of that. All 467 00:38:54,719 --> 00:39:00,239 atheists go through an edgy atheists time period. I had mine too, or 468 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,559 I told my mom and I was like, I don't believe in God anymore. 469 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:05,239 And now I'm like now that I don't know, I'm like my thirties 470 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,119 and I don't know things have happened. I'm like, you know what, 471 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,920 I don't go to church. I'm not like a practicing religious person, but 472 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,400 yeah, I believe there's something else out there. There's you know, our 473 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,719 families are out there, yes, you know, still protecting us. I 474 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:27,400 don't pray to God. She's my girl. Now now after I forgot what 475 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,239 was it that I don't remember where I was with my mom that and that 476 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:37,119 there's this like Comedy Central scared. I forget what the show is, but 477 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:43,480 some guys getting robbed and then he's like, oh, but didn't protect me 478 00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:45,519 please? And then she shows up. She's like, oh, now you 479 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:47,920 believe now you want to say to me? It was like it was some 480 00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:52,920 situation not that serious at all with my mom, Like I think I was 481 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,440 gonna put something is so dumb, like I think I was gonna fall in 482 00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:58,599 trip And I was like, oh, because to save me And she's like, 483 00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:02,960 oh I thought you were e Yeah, just in case, that's good 484 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:15,599 it's me just the case I could be wrong. Yeah, I just I'm 485 00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:19,000 like, I don't I don't know what all is out there, Like I 486 00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:24,639 know what I experience in my head amine journeys. I know, I definitely 487 00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:30,920 believe that this isn't like just the end. But like I've become one of 488 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,519 the most spiritual people. I know. I'm definitely not religious. The Temple 489 00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:40,440 would be very unhappy with me. I'm a terrible Jew. This is it's 490 00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:46,079 literally Russias Shanna. I'm like supposed to be in temple right now. But 491 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:51,239 but like this is like, this is my my belief system. All has 492 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,719 to do with my ancestors. That's okay, we feel well, I would 493 00:40:55,079 --> 00:41:00,880 I'm a terrible Catholic. Oh cool, we can sit together. Yeah yeah, 494 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:06,599 yeah, we could be sinners together. I'm down. When when I 495 00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:12,320 was in Mexico last time and we were visiting the my grandpa and like the 496 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,079 cemetery, my mom was like, your kids aren't like baptized, so you 497 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:22,679 need to Apparently it's like a thing that unbaptized children when they go to cemeteries, 498 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,159 you have to like when you're leaving, you have to repeatedly say their 499 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,440 name or their like spirit can stay in the cemetery at my mom told me 500 00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:32,880 and my Theah, yeah, that's what they both told me. Because my 501 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,400 kids are not baptized. I'm not it's too late. I'm not going to 502 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,119 do it. But she was like, you have. We had to keep 503 00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,760 calling them, and so all on the way out, we're just like b's 504 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,679 repeatedly stay in their names, like follow us, follow us out, which 505 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,360 is also necessary because they're like toddlers and they also wonder. So it worked 506 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,039 both way. But and she also was like, oh, and then like 507 00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:57,280 that and like give them the Still I don't know how to do it. 508 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:02,000 I can't remember what's it called in English when you bless someone, Is that 509 00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:07,960 what it is? Yeah? Yeah, you like touch you do like the 510 00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,679 sign of the cross almost like you move your hand like in four places. 511 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,440 And then like it's like the because we still have like a little like prayer. 512 00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:21,039 I guess the prayer that you begin prayers with and end them with, 513 00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:23,440 or you're supposed to do. Sometimes I'm like I forget, but it's the 514 00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:27,119 name of the Father is done in the Holy Spirit, and it's you do 515 00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:30,960 that to yourself and to people, and it's like a blessing. It's like, 516 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,800 yeah, she was like do that on the way out, and I 517 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,079 was like, I don't remember how She's like, oh my fucking god, 518 00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:43,400 like I can't believe you. And I was like, I'm sorry. It's 519 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:51,920 so funny, like the cultural like little things that we like continue doing regardless 520 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,480 of our belief systems, Like no, I'm still you know what I'm I'm 521 00:42:54,519 --> 00:43:02,639 like agnostics sometimes, but I'm still gonna do this because just exactly, you 522 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,480 never never know o jinks. I think you said that at the same time. 523 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:15,559 I don't know. We'll find out when I'm editing. But wow, 524 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:20,039 seriously, what an't I mean what an amazing, amazing story just goes to 525 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:22,840 show Like I don't know what I was going to say after that, something 526 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,280 about dreams and ancestors and how it's all connected. Yeah, something, but 527 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:34,880 like there was a better sentence in my head that just didn't Yeah, yeah, 528 00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:39,159 it really is all connected, and like you can't. You cannot live 529 00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:45,880 your life as someone else and be okay, Like even if you have no 530 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,599 idea who you are or where you came from, even if you were taken 531 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,800 out of your you know, family when you were a baby, like you 532 00:43:54,840 --> 00:44:00,519 weren't you weren't a blank slate, Like nobody is just born into this world 533 00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:05,320 as a blank slate. Like we all have ancestors, we all have stories, 534 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:12,119 and all of our families have been affected by history, and that will 535 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,440 not leave you, even if you have no idea what it is. So 536 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,000 oh my god, so true, so true. This reminds me. On 537 00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:25,719 my other podcast, he study Asn't Known and I covered I don't Thank you. 538 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,639 We covered international adoptions. I want to say, she did it was 539 00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:36,079 and what was he there was? Yes, I was, Yes, I 540 00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:43,320 was yelling. I cried like a bitch during both of those episodes because and 541 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,519 I think it was the Chila one that Carmen covered that went into more depth. 542 00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:51,840 She went she covered like because there's like I mean, it's a whole 543 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,840 last hour and a half episode almost, but basically like during the war, 544 00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,760 people were being adopted out for profit. Basically I heard the don't do that, 545 00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:04,320 they do they do that in this country? Yeah, in this country. 546 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,840 And like, because I was watching this thing from uh now, adults 547 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:14,119 who were taken by CPS and they were like, my parents were never like 548 00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:16,880 that, but they just you see it. Also with the migrant children's that 549 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:22,159 were lost, that were missing. I heard it happens a lot in It 550 00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:28,239 happened a lot in Korea and a lot of impoverished countries where kids go missing. 551 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,360 It's because like these adoption agencies take kids and then the parents and yeah, 552 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,880 and the parents in the countries are looking for them and then they find 553 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,760 them. Oh yeah they were adopted out. Yeah, this happens everywhere that 554 00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:46,800 America has had any type of conflict. They it's also like it's a it's 555 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,719 a yeah, it's a tool of genocide and it takes Yeah, it really 556 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,320 is. Yeah, it all leads back to the US and white supremacy. 557 00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:02,480 And they actually they took my Latina heritage off the paperwork because they could sell 558 00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:08,320 me for more money without it. Oh wow, I'm not surprised at all, 559 00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:12,920 but yeah, that makes yeah. But yeah, those those both of 560 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,280 those episodes have stories of people like later like they always felt like something was 561 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,360 missing, something was wrong. I didn't look like anyone else because they were 562 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:27,039 in countries like Switzerland and like these European ass countries and they were the only 563 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,239 like Latino people, but they didn't know they were and they never like stopped 564 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,280 feeling like something, they were missing something, and then later they find a 565 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,760 lot of these adoptees end up going back to their countries with their biological families 566 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,320 later. And when I heard all those stories, oh my god, I 567 00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:45,280 create someone. I mean, that's that's how I ended up here. Like 568 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,880 I moved from New York City, and when I was little, I was 569 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,400 like, just had this poll towards the Redwoods, Like I wanted to live 570 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,719 in the Redwoods when I was just so beautiful. Yeah, that's where I 571 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,639 live now. I'm jealous because I grew up in the area and my dad 572 00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:08,360 would take us every like every year, multiple times a year, to go 573 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:15,159 visit the Redwoods and take the pictures next to the these I don't know, 574 00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:19,079 like they're giant, but it's like more than giant. I don't know how 575 00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:21,760 to describe them, you know what I mean, Like you look at them 576 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,119 and yeah, they have presents. It's like a like a almost like a 577 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,119 titan or something, you know what I mean. It has like this energy 578 00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:32,719 coming from them and always love that. They really do. The one that's 579 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:38,679 right outside my window right now, my neighbor named her Deborah, and that 580 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:45,119 she's four hundred years old. It's it's just such a peaceful place. And 581 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:52,960 like so many adoptees, we like we long for our land and our people 582 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:59,639 and our heritage. It's almost like you're you're the familial ties are calling to 583 00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:06,000 fooling. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Like I feel like these trees are 584 00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:10,760 my family, Like my family has been coming to this place for generations and 585 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:19,400 generations and generations, and I just like I also had a hallucination on ketamine 586 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,199 after my after my Grandma June passed that she was like living in the tree. 587 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:29,480 Oh and like that, yeah, me too, And ever since then, 588 00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:32,039 I just I'm I'm so this is the first time in my life, 589 00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:37,039 like I'm grounded, I'm putting down roots, like this is my first real 590 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:42,599 home with these trees. Like I'm I feel this sense of like I am 591 00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:47,920 finally where I'm supposed to be. Amazing. I'm gonna cry. I love 592 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,000 that. Yeah, you're making me emotional. Sorry, guys, it's okay, 593 00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:58,559 It is okay. It's like it's like what it's called when you're like 594 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,000 it's a few feel good but it's so feel good that you're just like, 595 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,519 don't better cry, it's too feel good. I can tell you some not 596 00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:15,719 feel good stuff. Ked happy tears are better than like sad and scared tears. 597 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,639 Oh hell yes they are. I'm done tears. Like I'm just hanging 598 00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,480 out here with the trees and the bats. I love that. And another 599 00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:27,760 thing with the trees I don't like. I never really thought of this, 600 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,559 but I was on TikTok scrolling and it was someone who had like this again 601 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:37,719 connection with like a grandparent, and they were like I remember being little and 602 00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:40,119 my grandmother's saying, not all your trees. Not all the trees are your 603 00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:45,360 friends. Some of them protect you, others do not, and like you. 604 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,159 And I never noticed that, but that is true. There's always like 605 00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,920 that one tree you're like, there's something about you, and then there's other 606 00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:55,880 trees that you're like, I really like you tree. I know I have 607 00:49:57,039 --> 00:50:02,280 like emotional attachments with me too, and like sometimes like they get like a 608 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:07,239 few of them got like a diseases, I don't know what, but like 609 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,880 their their branches became brittle and they were just like falling off. And then 610 00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:15,000 the apartment complex that I that I have was like chopping them down, like 611 00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:16,800 crying. I was like calling my mom was like mother gotting down the trees 612 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,800 oh, it's like I've never felt that. But again, it's probably because 613 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,559 I'm so close off and I don't. I get this like sadness in the 614 00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:30,840 pit of my stomach when I see trees being cut down. I don't know 615 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,280 why. Same same, Yeah, I don't like think you start crying moms 616 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,159 Like, I know me too. I feel sad and like ugly crying. 617 00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:42,119 And she's like, it's it's okay me huh. I made my husband asks 618 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:49,159 the tree if it was okay to trim part of it. I love you, 619 00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:52,320 you have to tell the tree what you're doing. Yeah. And I 620 00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:57,480 would feel so bad too as a kid when people would rip off its sleeves. 621 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:04,199 I'm like, don't do no, just giving us the oxygen for real, 622 00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:09,800 It's it's yeah. So my adoptive mom came to visit and like, 623 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,840 you know how the trees are all connected, like they're like a family. 624 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,599 So my adoptive mom and dad they came to visit, and she's like, 625 00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:21,679 I love the redwoods. Do you think I could just take one home with 626 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,880 me? And I was like, I think you tried that and it didn't 627 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:31,000 work. She did not get the joke, so I had to explain it 628 00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:37,039 to her and that was like super awkward. But before before they came to 629 00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:44,119 visit my one of my adoptee friends on Twitter was telling me that there's like 630 00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:47,519 a lot of like the like you were saying, the trees. Not every 631 00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:53,360 tree is your friend. And if you, like I think that it it 632 00:51:53,519 --> 00:52:01,440 is dangerous to come into these woods and disrespect disrespect nature because these trees they're 633 00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:07,320 large, and they have large branches, and the branch here for hundreds of 634 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,920 years, the things they have seen, the things they have seen and they 635 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,400 have I believe that the woods have capabilities that we don't understand that we are 636 00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:22,000 we just don't know. So that's why I'm just like so cautious, and 637 00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:28,239 that's why I really try to, like I don't know, like be respectful, 638 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,440 be respectful, and try like I don't look at these trees like I 639 00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:37,760 own this tree. This tree is living with me, like we're living together, 640 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:42,239 and I don't own them, like they probably owned me more than I 641 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,599 own them, Like they could just fall on my house and I'll be you 642 00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:52,719 know, So I just like though, Oh, also, the Pomo used 643 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:57,239 to call this place. I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right, but 644 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,840 Cola, which means the shady place. And they believed that if you built 645 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:07,920 your that the redwoods all had spirits like they like an essence, and that 646 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,320 if you built your house out of redwood, that the spirit would still live 647 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,199 on in your house. And our house is built out of redwood. Wow. 648 00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:22,239 So it just wow. And then the whole story of like how we 649 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,599 ended up with this house was just it was just so many signs that like 650 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:31,559 it's this one and I have never felt so safe. But I was genuinely 651 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:36,960 worried for my adoptive parents to leave. I'm like, I wonder if the 652 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,719 woods are going to let them go, like you had to ask, like 653 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,320 please let them leave in peace. They mean they mean no harm, really 654 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,360 like they're not gonna take anything. We're not gonna take anything. At this 655 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:55,480 point that anymore learned they have Actually they have. So that's amazing. No, 656 00:53:55,559 --> 00:54:00,719 but that's why there's so many like forest story, so many spirits tied 657 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,440 to trees, like and that's like across all clothes. You can see that 658 00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:07,119 because like they also say, like you know, like those windows that live 659 00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:12,039 in the trees, and people like always feel like kind of like some kind 660 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,840 of way with those trees with the wends in them, and I'm like, 661 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:22,280 yeah, it's true. Like Pa, my grandma said that people who were 662 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:30,760 really sensitive were better at like knowing, like feeling those things like seeing doend 663 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:37,199 this and feeling the spirits and having the dreams. And she was like, 664 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,000 you're so sensitive, and she's like, that's why you get the dreams. 665 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:57,000 Oh wow, Well, I'm getting hungry. So this is a good time 666 00:54:57,039 --> 00:55:00,880 to wrap up because my popeyes is out there. But before we go, 667 00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:05,920 do you have any spooky recommendations? Any type of media that's spooky that you 668 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,320 want to recommend. That's a tough one. I don't know. At this 669 00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:15,000 time. I should have been more prepared, and I apologize no worries. 670 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:21,599 Christina is usually prepared for all of us. That is true. Well, 671 00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:24,079 then, MJ, do you have any I don't know. I just rewatched 672 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,960 Crimson Peak. That's about it. Oh, I've been meaning to watch that 673 00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:35,800 since you mentioned it when we read they haven't seen it, Like that's streaming 674 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,400 on Netflix, you know. I want to say Netflix. I look, 675 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,480 I'm pretty sure I sat on Netflix to see their Netflix or Hulu because because 676 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,159 those are the two apps I was on today. Have you noticed Whula's been 677 00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:52,920 adding a bunch of horror. Yes, yeah, they know. They're like, 678 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,800 became prepared this year. You guys became prepared and I was a good 679 00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:01,039 job. Who Yeah. Yeah. I don't have any like media type of 680 00:56:01,079 --> 00:56:06,519 spooky recommendations, but I do have a sort of spooky recommendation. I bought 681 00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:09,000 some sheets, some white sheets, and I'm gonna put them on my children, 682 00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:12,199 and then I'm gonna put a little sunglasses on them, and then I'm 683 00:56:12,199 --> 00:56:16,960 gonna pictures of them. So I recommend everyone takes some ghost pictures. I 684 00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:22,320 love blommendation. I love that. Yeah, yeah, I will. I 685 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,920 will show them when I have them. I was gonna do today, but 686 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,679 then my husband wants to go get the sheets too late. I could have 687 00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:30,320 gone early. Awesome. My daughter wants to be Smarrow this year, and 688 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,559 I'm like, how are we gonna do that? You're gonna freak a lot 689 00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:40,360 of people out from the ring or the ring I love. She has her 690 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,840 really long hair because I haven't cut it since she was born, so she 691 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,079 has a really long hair, and I'm like, black, yes, yes, 692 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,320 you're gonna And her father is terrified I'm talking about I cannot him make 693 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:59,880 that man and like since I met him watch the Ring and I was like, 694 00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:01,840 girl, your your father's gonna die. He's just gonna see you. 695 00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:07,320 Just stop over. She's like, I don't care. That movie is terrifying. 696 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:13,559 I would be scared your daughter's And then she's like he's thirty one years 697 00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:15,840 old. He needs to get it together. I'm like, okay, damn. 698 00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:22,159 Yeah. It's like she won't kill you like Samarrow does, but she'll 699 00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:29,920 do emotional damage. So emotionally she's judging me. It's not even here, 700 00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:35,800 but she's judging ready. She's staid eyeing everything. If she ends up with 701 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,239 that Halloween costume, I need you to like record a few tiktoks to her. 702 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,960 She really wants she wants to be an alien and Samarrow, I'm like, 703 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,760 you know what, I can't. I have to get a kid friendly 704 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,960 costume for her to take to school. I was like, you can't. 705 00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:50,440 I'm not gonna take me like that. We're gonna scare all your friends. 706 00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:53,840 Yeah, that's so funny. I think you should let her scare all her 707 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,840 friends. I'm voting for that one. There's a video. I think I've 708 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,639 talked about it before. It it's like a little Asian girl and she's dressed 709 00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:06,159 as the thing from a spirited away. Spirited away. Yeah, and she's 710 00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:09,079 scarying everyone at the daycare. That's what I picture that girl. That's the 711 00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:14,960 best. Yeah. I want to be her friend, right, I feel 712 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:22,119 like she knows things right? Yeah, okay, Well, how do I 713 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,000 let us know if you've seen this man? Actually, no, let me 714 00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:29,239 rephrase that. If you if you see this man in your dreams, just 715 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,480 punchmen, throw hands, throw hands. Yeah, please don't make love with 716 00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:37,519 him, but don't do that if you see him in the mental hospital. 717 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:45,239 Yeah, yeah, just just turn around and walk the other way. No, 718 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:52,519 out of there, yep, yep. And yeah, anything else to 719 00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:57,840 add before we end this? I think that's it, unless you know what, 720 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,400 Let's remind the spookies that we're still reading Silver Nitrate. Yeah, new 721 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:09,000 pages in. I think I'm like five. Oh okay, yeah, Carmen 722 00:59:09,239 --> 00:59:14,760 has read more I think, but not a lot either. So that's why 723 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,159 it's the Speak Tales book Club for busy people. Yeah people, we're still 724 00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:22,800 on the last book, so well, you know what, the episodes are 725 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:28,119 there waiting for, you know, whenever you finish the book. So yeah 726 00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:30,960 again for busy people. I think the last one took us like four months, 727 00:59:31,039 --> 00:59:35,760 right yeah, and it's it was the shortest book, so there was 728 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,159 like it was just, oh my god, it was insane. I feel 729 00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:40,559 like it was like it's such an I mean, and that's saying something because 730 00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:44,960 this this time, I'm lates more insane. I've only gotten like five pages 731 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,800 in the book. I'm going to read, I promise guys. I am 732 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,960 well, I gotta read that, me too, me too, yeah, 733 00:59:52,960 --> 01:00:00,000 Silver Nitrate. And then I'm excited for the next one, the Vampires. 734 01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:01,960 Oh my god, I cannot wait for that one. That one's just I 735 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:07,599 started it. My bad, I need to read the other one first. 736 01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:09,559 But I did start it, and like chapter one is already like oh my 737 01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:13,960 god, this is insane. So oh I can't wait. Like that's just 738 01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:15,559 it's just calling my name. I have it on my shelf and it's like 739 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,840 read me, read me, and I'm like, I can't. I can't. 740 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:28,159 I have a few more books patience. Yeah, all right, Well 741 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,960 stay a spookie and we'll catch everyone next time. Bye bye bye,