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Hey everyone is Tuesday, September the
thirteenth, twenty eleven. I'm so tired.

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It's the Giant Bodcast. I'm Ryan
Davis, Vinney, Carola Caravella is

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Phemerakela in a nutshell, Kras Fellas
Smelling Fellas, Phenny. You got the

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first part time you got burned?
Something melancholy in the infinite Vinnie Brand Shoemakers

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here, I could go for infinite. Yeah, just turn that video turn

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all the way up. So I
just have to just unlock the mutator.

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Do I have to just punch just
Justin Bailey into you somehow? Do you

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have to use a game Shark?
How do I attach the game Shark to

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you? I'll talk to you after
the show. Okay, what proprietary?

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Yes, I'm gonna want to hose
it off afterwards and before I share my

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game Shark. Oh that's what are
you gonna do? They're expanded? It

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hard define now I put I put
the Coonami code into my new touch pad

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this weekend. It worked. That's
how you enable developer mode on this what

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Yeah, like you type it into
the search field. You transliterate the economy

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code like you type the letter ends
of the search field on the touch pad.

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Do you have to type select starters
you want to do two player?

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That's weird. It's kind of dumb, kind of it is, no wonder

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why that thing is. Yeah,
but then I thought you can also type

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webOS uh twenty nine six h six. That's the same thing. That's way

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easier, but not as I don't
know elegant. You only do it once.

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What do you think of that thing? Yeah, I was brought in

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here. Yeah, but you already
have an iPad here. Yeah. I

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didn't see a reason you brought a
real tablet whatever. I's all right,

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I was. I was close to
getting one of those. It's a real

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tablet. It does flash, thank
you. Finally I overclocked it. You

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get overclocked totally. That's dumb water
cool. Now I was looking at I

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was doing some PC stuff this weekend, and I was looking at it because

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I booted up my bios has is
having trouble keeping like my boot drive information

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saved, and every once in a
while I was like a problem here,

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Yeah, just because the battery's dead
on that battery. Yeah, maybe I

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just never I never turned it off, so the rarecas and I do boot

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it up and then it like goes
past bios and just sits there. I'm

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like, oh, no, everything's
broken. Oh wait, that's right.

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It's trying to boot my printer for
some reason. It's like that defaults to

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the first device perfect Like, no, my printer can't. No, printer

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is not a bootable device. I
could make it one, but I'm like

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gonna that seems weird. It has
a bunch of memory cards slots in the

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front and those straight up mount as
drives, so you could just could you

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put a bootoo on that printer?
Probably I probably put Windows on that printer,

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Moss. It's just a like that
part of it just acts as a

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drive and got I've got like and
it only shows up that way because I

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have like a one gig memories like
Sony memory stick just kind of sitting in

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there because it's something that I has. Where else would you put it?

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Yeah, nowhere else. It's like
if I don't put this here, I'm

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just going to lose it. You
didn't introduced Jeff. I didn't. Jeff's

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here too, Jeff Krisman, Hello, I'm sorry. I didn't mean did

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not introduce you. I'm a video
game player, you do I just see

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your no talking about video games here, and you're a leo. I am

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exclusively going to cover touch pad games. Finally, between bious and c moss,

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Oh god, I used to know
that. Is there a Is there

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a like legitimate difference? Is the
SEAMSS the physical piece of hardware? Isn't

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that the complimentary nottalox side semiconductor.
Wow? Isn't it? Isn't it?

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I never even knew it? For
basic input out the system? Wow?

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I don't mean some acronyms. Alright, Yeah, so that that would make

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sense that the sea moss face the
hardware. Believe. I believe the bos

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so because seamoss is the thing.
If you hit the jump, put the

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jumper on just right, it'll wipe
the bios right. Yeah, maybe that's

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wiping the sea moss. I think
that is like what holds the bios right?

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What's guzzy stand for single channel?
Uh? Something? Interconnect? I

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think yeah, it's sadis stand for
cereal stop caring at that point? Active

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transfer? I don't I can't remember
what AHTA stands for, but I stand

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for I don't think I ever in
turns driving in her face. I think

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that might be right. Device interfaces
start with a knee interface. Yeah,

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that's good, that's good enough for
good job. I think the fact checking

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is just really really had a touch
pad in here if we're doing anything other

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than going with it. This podcast
goes to four hours. I r Q

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interrupting requests. Requests Yeah, two
letters, not just IR because like wait,

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I already stands for something. Pine
Dame is not et. Yes,

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there recursive acronyms, yes, direct
memory addressing or something to that. I

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think that's right. First thing.
Then are outdated computer acronyms. Yeah,

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those are the best. You don't
have any any context for anything like that?

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Is RS two thirty two Port?
What those those are like? The

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those are like the incantations of a
lost empire. I felt like if you

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could, I don't understand the old
PCs, like the magic spells of this

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long lost civilization, like the game
port. Yeah you know port for games.

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They still have a GPS. It
was gone. They're all PC extreme

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or whatever based a local bus man
I screwed. Yeah, he's a local

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bus and it was AGP. For
a couple of years, PCI a PC

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I it was PCI and a GP
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I E came out. That's what's
still around, isn't it. Yeah,

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that's that is what trump a GPA. And now they have stupid names like

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Thunderbolt. Don't I know all the
all the buses are just cables. Thunderbolts,

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awesome, thunderbolt. That's a I
know, I really use I use

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my thunderbolt. From one point,
there's no such thing as a thunderbolt.

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There's lightning bolts. Thunder doesn't make
bolts. That's that's why they named it.

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That is so they can get the
pat nonsense. It's a nonsense worth.

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If they try to get a pattern
on lightning bolt, they'd be like,

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no, what fucking lightning incorporated as
the pat on Lightning bolts bolts.

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It's a company, doesn't exist.
I guess you can pass. It's a

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company that makes bolts. Thunder under
both. How you doing all right?

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We we survived the Big Live Live
Show live last kind of mostly mostly did

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we? Or did we have it
all dead? God stream? I wish

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no. This is our your podcast
in this room forever. This is our

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Yeah, this is our hell razor
punishment of having now go through the Big

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Live Live Show today is actually September
eight. Yeah, just keeps on going

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again and again and again. The
worst day. Yeah, I wish,

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I wish there were just some camera
to show a pile of all the stuff

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that died. Equipment wise, there
could be you have it in a pile.

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No, I'm starting to send it
back. Oh is it? Is

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it getting boxed up now? Yeah? It was many HDMI converters died to

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bring you. Yeah, the big
live, live show, live show.

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I think somehow Thursday night, Thursday, let's say it. Let's say Thursday

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noon to Thursday evening. You know, walk coming to the office on Thursday

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morning and being like, hey,
you know, we did a little you

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know, kind of we had a
big meeting where we ran through the whole

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schedule and kind of hammered out some
of the last details that we needed to

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for for guests and for setups and
stuff. And you guys were well on

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your way to setting things up,
and we were running cable through walls and

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yep, yep, and we had, you know, and then the all

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of the gear that we were expecting
that we were renting from the show showed

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up like everything that we needed.
It's here and awesome and it's like we're

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on our way to having a kick
ass live show on Friday. Just put

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camera ready to go, plug it
in, and no signal, no signal.

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Ear all the cables I bought.
Actually, it's just all eight the

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cables I bought dead on our eve. And this includes six one hundred foot

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we'd only run six of those.
Oh Jesus, okay, just you had

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figured out at a certain point.
No, we just I bought extra.

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I was like, okay, in
case some of these are broken or something,

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all these some extra and all eight
all eight dead. So what does

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STI stand for? Oh? I
can't remember, make up something. That's

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what they were, sibleles. I
mean that's not like cable you just go

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to Walmart and get more of right, No, I wouldn't know where to

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locally. I mean yeah, I
mean it's just wire within it. It

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just says. But it's not something
that normal people need. It's like us

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no, no, So we couldn't
just go out and replace them. I

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don't know that was bad. I
was a model price order. Yeah,

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and usually they're fantastic, like,
well, the thing is like a double

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checked and a triple checked. After
I bought them, I was like,

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man, did I buy the wrong
cable, which would be highly unlikely because

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you know, they're just being c
cables, which is the connector that's on

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the end. And I looked at
the product number and I was like,

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no, this is exactly the same
product we're using throughout our entire studio.

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I don't know, unless there's just
been a bad run from the machine that

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came out and I have no idea, no idea, but yeah, because

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you guys had to mcguy. You
you're so luckily little connectors to rescue.

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So so luckily the day before some
Monel price usually ships about twenty four hours.

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You can put the overnight, so
like on Tuesday or Wednesday. The

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show starts on Friday. I was
putting in order for just some extra stuff.

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It was the stuff for the PCs. It was the like the switch

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and some Ethernet cables so we could
set up all those StarCraft PCs. And

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I was sitting there, I'm like, I should just, you know,

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I should just buy some extra twenty
five footers. Yeah, okay, so

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we'll buy like five twenty five footers
just in case we have to go a

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little bit longer or something like that. They're not too expensive. Well they're

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gonna I mean the eight was like
one hundred and twenty dollars worth of cables.

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Yeah, they were like ten bucks
hundred and twenty dollars for eight hundred

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feet of cable. Yeah. And
when you put it like that, right,

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so wound up, you haven't use
the twenty five footers and like connect

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those barrel connect those to make the
two cables we were able to use.

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That was that was crazy. That
was not fun. And then a bunch

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of converter boxes just blew up,
blew up, a little converter boxes.

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Exp That was the thing the lead
into the CAPCOM segment, right, the

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capcom was the first all Yeah,
that was that was the discovery, and

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then the and then the h and
then while all that was happening, I

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somehow didn't put on a microphone or
a microphone fell off or whatever happened.

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So the first yeah, so that
was then going into the capcom. But

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luckily we were able to use component
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the big thing was the HDMI.
What we used to capture HDMI was broken.

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So that's why the iPad segment was
the biggest thing because there's no no

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other way to come out of that. Which component I don't think. I

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don't think component does what you wanted
to do. I think component might just

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be from movies. I'm not one
because there is some logic going on inside

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the iPad that's just not like hey, I'll spit out the screen kind of

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thing, right, It's like it's
like nomine, yeah, I'll send this

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out. Uh So normally we do
that HDMI and then that was that was

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that was I think I spent the
most time on that during the entire show.

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Are about four or five segments.
I was coming hopping back out and

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we were trying stuff out. The
hell is going on? I was having

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I was having you and I think
Thomas like lean back on the couch,

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like all right, I got a
toss to this next segment here, duck

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down, get out of the way. And the biggest problem was there were

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two boxes that failed. One was
the one you plugged the device into and

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the other one was the device that
we plugged into the TV and we usually

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connect those so actually two of those
were broken. Not knowing that both of

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those were broken, being like,
well, this one isn't working, but

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I assume this one's working. So
I'm plugging everything else into that and we're

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nothing's working because not knowing that this
device is totally broken, scramble go made

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it work. And then we made
it work. We shot stuff off a

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TV. I licked my fingers and
touched two different things, and I knew

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something bad had come to pass when
this morning I saw you with what is

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a volt meter? Volt voltimeter sticking
sticking prongs directly into electrical outlets. Because

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I'm kind of like, how could
this possibly happen? How could three out

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of three pieces of our gear just
blow up? You know? So?

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Yeah, it was four thoughts,
Three of those boxes exploded. Yeah,

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power line man. So I was
checking the power coming out of the wall,

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being like, is there like too
much coming out of here? And

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then I was checking all the power
adapters, the DC power dapters, is

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too much? Is there voltage coming
in over the wires? Whatever? I

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don't know, man Drew, and
I and and Thomas H who is interning

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right now for video stuff literally coming
up with like uh JFK's style diagrams of

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how this could have happened? Who
shot first? Did the shot come from

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the grassy knoll? Uh? You
guys try to figure out like, okay,

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was the last time that any of
this stuff worked correctly? Yeah,

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let's walk through the crime scene of
like did this guy touch this all?

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Right? Where did you responsible for? When? Did when? Did this

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box talk to this box? Maybe
this is a and he's putting out it

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was just weird. I don't know. They're all getting sent back to different

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to like seven different vendors. Call
Monel Price and be like, you sent

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me eight cables. None of them
worked? How ridiculous? Does that sound?

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Like? I want to only imagine
the response on the other what you're

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plugging something in wrong? You don't
know how to use a cable? No,

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I know how cables work. That's
what I would say. It would

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be like I'd imagine someone ordering eight
one hunt STI cables would know. I

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know, But like, wouldn't you
assume that if somebody came back to you

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be like none of them worked,
You're like, are you sure you're doing

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the right? Are you sure sure
you know? It's like it's like six

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out of eight, I'd be okay. Then there's obviously if you're able to

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get two of those working, then
there's there's some sort of inconsistency with the

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materials. But if if full on
fully none of them are working for you,

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then the only other thing I can
imagine them being like is they probably

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wouldn't say it, but like,
yeah, we know there's a whole batch

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like fucked overall odd people. Uh, that's the only thing you imagine,

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like the machine messed up. It's
like shorting out the cables of bad SDI

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cables off this off this line because
they're wrapped, they're machine wrapped. I

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don't know if they test them whatever, I'm not sure. Model price is

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great. We buy a bunch of
stuff from them. Yeah, I just

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had rescorse possible time that email.
That's just like I know, I was

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shocked too. I know you're gonna
be real weird and out when you're reading

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this email that says these eight cables
are messed up. We tried them out.

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Imagine we order enough stuff from them
at this point that they're yeah,

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I'm gonna be like you've got the
premium yeah points or whatever, diamond membership.

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They're like, hey, we'll give
you the bulk rate even though if

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you order one thing. Now we
order a lot of cables. Yes,

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I think it just you know,
it's stupid, but maybe it's one of

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those things that I'm glad. I
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just something's gonna go wrong. We're
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yeah, a couple extra twenty fives, and man, we used every cable

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and we did it, and we
put on a show. Yeah, and

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you know, as long as it
looked like nothing was on fire from the

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other end of the camera, I
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year. So it's crazy this year
too. Not to spend too much time

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talking about the big live live show, but last year we did this with

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three cameras. I was gonna say
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issues, like still get went in
so much more prepared for this show.

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This year we did it with starting
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This year, man, just three, five, six, Yeah,

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like nine cameras we have only had
and last year we only had three inputs

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on the machine. But we did
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all the gameplay direct feed stuff,
so we were swapping cables. This year

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we're like, well, let's get
extra cameras so we don't have to swap

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stuff. So we did the stupid
thing of filling up all Now we have

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eight inputs, nine cameras and all
the distilling still having back there. So

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there's a great document. Maybe somebody
will put it up. Un told Drew

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just to put it up. That's
like six pages long. That between each

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segment runs down exactly what we need
to do between okay Wall Jeff is playing

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uh street Fighter, or while the
capcom segments going on, we're playing Marvel.

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Yeah we need to change Aux five
for camera three, turn on this

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microphone, run to the backbar,
swap camera seven with the barcam to all

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the suff and it's just like literally
goes down each segment. We were using

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two audio mixers because we had so
many mics coming in, so Drew had

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them like a organist, you know, like either side. It was real

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fun in the control room. It's
real fun time. I never saw it,

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but as you guys didn't look crazy. It wasn't that well. The

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only crazy part was out when like
we said, the iPad stuff. That's

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when I was like, when all
that stuff just started breaking. I knew

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the first time that Vinnie ran out
of the control room to the to the

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studio. Oh yeah, there's definitely
a moment where I was like, oh

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man, what's he doing out here? Yeah? That was back there?

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Why is he back there? Because
the show started off, I was real,

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it's colm. I was like,
we got everything, we ran through

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everything. It's walking around. I
think I walked in when I'm looked for

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my coffee, like when you're doing
that first dream, PAS like, yeah,

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we're good to go. And then
as soon as it was like this

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isn't working at all, and then
I was like, we'll use that.

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That's not working. We're out of
things that those are the only options we

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have here and we're two hours into
the show right anyway, fun show,

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Yeah, I enjoyed it. It's
fun to fun to do, fun to

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be part of it. So I
collapsed this weekend. I was super exhausted

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from the whole week. Yeah,
and I collapsed this weekend. But I

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did manage to beat the Witcher two. Wow. End of the Witcher Chronicles

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for now. Now I'm gonna play
it all in Italian now what hidden?

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Yes, and it's native Italian how
it was meant to be played. So

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that game is really good? Yeah, it end well? Yes, do

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you have any yes, compulsion to
play it? Again to play it again.

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Yes, yeah, I do so
that game is that game is really

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good and they've never I don't think
i've ever seen this before in a game.

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And maybe you guys can fill me
in if I'm missing one. You

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make a choice about the part where
the two ships you can capture one and

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put the met's gallagha doesn't that Oh
yeah alright? Sorry, but like no,

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it's like, yeah, the little
ship comes down, sucks it up.

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Yeah, it's an enemy, shoot
at you. You you can even

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kill it. You can actually kill
your been done before. But it's got

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tits, right, Yeah, but
full nude like this is yeah, this

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is everything. Well, I mean
you know it's it's a little bit innovative.

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Is that white hair? Yeah?
Man? About about a third of

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the way through, let's say it's
like the end of chapter one there.

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I think there are three or four
chapters. You make a choice. I'm

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gonna go with Ryan. I'm gonna
go with Jeff. Right goes Ryan.

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Ryan is the leader of like the
rebels, and they have good cause.

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Let's say everything's kind of gray,
right, so it's not like you're a

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terrorist. It's like, okay,
I kind of see where you're coming from.

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And Jeff is the leader of like
the police, who's like, you

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know, hey, I'm a cop. I'm but he also is like,

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you know, I'm kind of on
the side of the right thing, but

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you know whatever, I've also got
stuff going on. Uh, I'm the

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law. So you can either go
with the law, you can kind of

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go with the rebels and each and
like again, it doesn't make you feel

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like, well, I'm gonna be
the bad guy. I'm gonna go with

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Ryan. I'm gonna be the big
guy. It's very gray. But so

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I was like, all right,
well I had made some choices before,

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so I'm gonna gonna go with Ryan. Takes you to an entirely different path

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through the entire game, like different
areas. You never see the stuff that

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I would have seen with you.
Uh, the stuff that you would have

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seen with me would have really changed
your life, just everything I could have

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shown you. So this is actually
a whole part of the game that I

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just did not You'd never see different
areas, different zones, different character interactions

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that like that are happening simultaneously while
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And then I didn't wait around for
you. You did your own stuff

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and the option, but you know, kept on go to move on with

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you. I was happy when I
saw you again later on when you were

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with the other guy that you got. That was like, oh, good

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for you. You found somebody.
Life is good. Now. I'm really

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happy for you. I just want
you to be happy. I am.

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I'm happy, and I'm also happy
for me. But you know you deserve

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to find someone. That's great.
That's I'm glad you could finish the game

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without me. Yeah, but I
mean that's that's both like that's kind of

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everything that you would ask for in
a like heavy choice driven kind of game

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of Like, no, it's not
just like oh well, this guy acts

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kind of gruff towards you when you
go and talk to him for this mission,

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he's gone. It's like no you
are No, it's not even he's

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gone. It's like no, I
am on the other side of this continent

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or something. So so that well, now you're actually like fighting against what

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he's doing. Sure, so that
part's really great. So the fact that

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like, hey, you want to
play it again, you're not just gonna

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see like make the bad choice this
time, that you'll be like play this

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entirely different sequence of events that would
have played out that plays out, you

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know, simultaneous years, but you
won't see it. Uh. So that's

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why I also like, I can't
help but also think because that's, yeah,

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that is great. That is demonstrably
an awesome thing to do with a

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with a game where kind of the
the I didn't feel like I had a

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short shrift or anything like that.
So no, but I still can't help

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but think about, like the the
developers who worked on you know, Hunt,

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you know, a dozen hours of
quests or whatever for this other side

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that just you literally would never see. Well, you know, I think

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I think a lot of people play
that game twice. I think it was

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gonna wait, so you're gonna wait
for the fancy edition. I might wait,

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I don't know. It was about
forty five hours, and uh there's

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no new game plus kind of thing, which I kind of really do wish

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just for a game like that where
you're like, well, I don't want

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to spend all that time going through
and grinding out stuff again like making sure

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I have enough gold to buy this, which was never really big deal,

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but like basically I just want to
see the content. I don't want to

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do the leveling anymore, Like I
just just let me go through the stuff

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I miss. A new game.
Plus is called mods that make you invincible.

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Yeah those I think. Yeah,
trainers, sure, which are two

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trainers? It's plus four or something
like that. Health, gold swords.

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It's so weird. Why they all
magic German? I don't know. Don't

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deal with trainers because they're always released
by weird Swedish pirate groups. Hacker,

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Yeah, it's always weak. We
cracked the game and also released this trainer

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all right, Razor nineteen eleven.
Bitch, that game is pretty good.

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It just gets better and better as
you go on. The combat gets so

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much easier and better and better and
better as you move on. I didn't

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have any of the problems I had
in an early game. I don't think

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it's because I got better, because
we all know that's not true. You

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just powered up. I just got
better swords and suddenly, because yeah,

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because that game is just like straight
up fucking hard at the beginning. Well,

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they give you things like, oh, now you can block from all

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sides that you don't have in the
beginning. It's also like plus you it's

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also like, hey, you won't
take two hundred percent damage when somebody hits

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you from the back. So there's
like stuff that eventually makes you reasonable against

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groups of people. Sure, yeah, because that group combat can be a

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that's where it always falls apart.
Yeah, hey you can counter now like

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stuff like that. Do I not
die in like three sword strokes now?

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Because that was always no, it
was just the bastard thing. Hey,

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that would I'd take it, man. So yeah, by the end of

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the game, I had no problem
with any of the enemies of the combat.

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I didn't really want up using much
of the magic or any stuff like

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that. But it was really it
was a really really good game and very

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well done. Dialogue is fantastic.
So I Vinny Caravella's Witcher Game of twenty

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eleven. Is it Witcher or Witcher
two? Oh? Man? Pick here?

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Yeah, I'm gonna make your pick, which is which is the better

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Witcher? I choose myself. I'm
the best Witcher. I did it.

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I don't know, Like, how
do you feel about the changes between the

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two games? Like, obviously they're
so different? Really yeah, they really

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are very different. U. I'd
say the Witch or two is the game

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you'd want to play, and without
having played the Witcher one. You're still

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gonna go through that fiction. You're
still reading the books. I've only got

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that one one left until they translated. I'm not buying any other languages you

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did already though, I know besides
that one. Okay, yeah, I'll

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read that Italian one. It'll take
me like a year. But yeah,

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somebody sent me a friend of hers
or his sent did translations. So oh

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nice. Yeah, say that goes
the Witcher community is great? I bet

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fantastic. I also So then after
that, I was like, man,

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is I've been witch in a long
time? From Whitcher one to Witch or

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two. It's been a while.
What do I do with my life now

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that I saw you asking for recommendation? Yeah, I would side. Well,

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so I've got data sex, and
I've got a copy of Catherine A.

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Bard from Joey uh Space Marine.
And then there's something else, Castylvania,

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which I've got from game Fly.
Oh god, really still send that

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back, dude. I kind of
want to try it, But have you

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ever put it in? You bought
that game like at least twice over now,

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I was gonna say, you're still
subscribed to game in game, what's

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what you're doing man, Casylvania,
you gotta get no, no, send

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it back and I can't see a
subscription? Were you doing? Are you

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doing waiting for them to rent out
racing wheels? I bought Casylvania at least

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once from game fly in monthly fees. Yeah, so I know I might

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actually have two copies. You do
You told me you did it like months

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ago. Yeah. I didn't put
it in yet, but I opened it

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up to look at him nice yeah, uh yeah it's a disc and I

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ended up playing Uh. I ended
up playing Space Marine. I beat that.

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I kind of wanted to play some
Space like after our quick look of

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it. That was so goddamn fun
to watch Their game is fun. I

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was thinking, like, shit,
I should like going how long I've heard

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it's not super Yeah, it probably
clocked in about yeah, seven, Like

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that's reasonable. I mean, especially
receptable Camper would be happy to play that

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game for seven is hours and then
played it through in one sitting. It

407
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:17.759
was like, you know, just
uh, it kind of moves and that's

408
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:19.519
kind of all you want from that
game, I think, because it's there's

409
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.680
no like upgrade mechanic. Really no, you're not dumping points you're not getting

410
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.799
experienced points from stuffing. I seems
like within the first hour it has like,

411
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.240
here's everything you can do in this
game. Yeah, you got a

412
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:30.960
couple of different weapons. A little
bit later on and you're getting some new

413
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:33.319
bolters or so, did you get
a war did you get a warhammer?

414
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.839
I did get a warhammer, but
I didn't really like using it. Yeah,

415
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:41.519
it sounds about right because it limits
you once you have the warhammer.

416
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.200
It's very powerful, hope. So
yeah, but you can't you can't use

417
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.119
two of your other weapons once you're
using the warhammer. So yeah, so

418
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.960
you can use your like your handgun, and you can use kind of one

419
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.519
of your other little machine guns,
but you can't use the kind of cool

420
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:59.039
weapons like the Vengeance Launcher. I
started reading a little bit just in the

421
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:04.440
comments on that on that Space Marine. Quick look Marie space Marines, the

422
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:11.279
Space Marines. God damn it.
Those guys talk about space marines a lot.

423
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:19.039
Works Those orcs are very interesting,
Yeah, and they're weirdly articulate about

424
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:23.000
it. Everything else that just sounds
like cockney gibberish on Space Marine. But

425
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:30.160
then it comes to space Marines.
Space Marines by the Space marines. Everybody

426
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.240
knows them, and Jeff, I
think you and I were having this conversation

427
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.799
at some point, wouldn't they drop
the space part? Yeah, like when

428
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:41.599
everything's in space, they're just the
marines. Well, yeah, it's just

429
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.759
their marines. Don't get confused with
the old marines. Yeah, Like,

430
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.119
are there non space marines out there
that we have to keep referring to these

431
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.720
ones? I've never heard about those. There are again, I guess those

432
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:57.160
would also just be marines, but
I think it's a nick true m I

433
00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:00.319
don't think it's their official name when
they're ultratra marines. Yeah. No,

434
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:07.759
marines are a specific ones you are. I think it's uh, I can't

435
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.640
remember marine pronunciation. But it's like
a star taste or something like that.

436
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.079
It's like a deptist. A star
taste or something like that is like the

437
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:18.759
official name. It's just Latin for
fucking space marines. That's right, That's

438
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.160
right. They had space marines in
the Roman Empire. Well, they had

439
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.240
the concepts of space and water.
I mean everything in Warhammer is fake space

440
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:32.200
romans anyway. Yeah, kind of
space British plus space romans. It's very

441
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.799
confusing times for everybody, and I
do. Yeah, I appreciate the Space

442
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.160
British. There's a lot of Space
British. So there are other troops that

443
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:42.599
are the military that are not the
Space Marines. H dudes, and they're

444
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:48.000
funny because they're just hanging out dying
and then like three space Marines and everybody's

445
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.400
always psyched that awesome. Oh they're
very great. Well, take over the

446
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:53.880
planet. That's fantastic. Do you
ever get to fight anything else? Is

447
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.640
it too soon to ask that?
Is that like a big spoiler? Now?

448
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.720
I mean you have to just works
right now? Okay, you do

449
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.519
you fight some chaos guys. They
they even like they openly they hinted at

450
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.720
like, yeah, multiplayers against chaos, right, But it's not like they're

451
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.279
like, here's the here's the Tyrannist
chapter, here's the Elder chapter. Like

452
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:18.920
you're not fighting everybody from that universe. Okay, who space Marines too?

453
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:27.559
This time it's Spice Marine a game. So that game moves. Uh,

454
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.279
that game moves. I do wish
that there were a couple of more just

455
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:34.839
the animations for those like close up
cinematic kills. Yeah, because you do

456
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:38.680
go through those charging moves. Yeah, you have to do those right,

457
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.839
Yeah, yeah, you kind of
have to do those and there's only like

458
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.640
a couple of animations for they're awesome. They're awesome animations, which they could

459
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.519
see that getting tiring after a while. Yeah, but man, the weapons

460
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.519
just are so satisfying to shoot.
So so I was saying, I was

461
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.319
reading some of the comments on that
on that quick look and some people kind

462
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.799
of explaining some of the tech and
think and are you saying that we have

463
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:06.920
tech priests posting to our message of
wards people talking about like the makeup of

464
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:08.400
a shell that comes out of the
boulter, and the bolter is like your

465
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:14.160
lowest level it's basically your infinite AMMO
handgun. And like each one of those

466
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.720
is basically a fucking like bomb.
And yeah, like a like a missile

467
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.240
that you should have a missile launcher. Those are just the bullets and talking

468
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.519
about the casing and this arm armor
piercing. But then it has like a

469
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:30.039
delay mechanism so that they don't explode
until they're inside the targets to like so

470
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.400
they like a split second after impact
is when they actually detonate, Like each

471
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.119
one's just like a little bomb.
But the but these the guns sounds very

472
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.240
much. And when you hit dudes
and they pop, like it's just like

473
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.880
there's a lot of fun. Uh
yeah, the melee stuff is kind of

474
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.240
fun, but that's not the part
that Actually if that game we're all melee,

475
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.519
I think we're gonna be completely boring, Like you don't feel the impacts

476
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.480
like you do when you're just shooting
those guns off. But they but they

477
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.880
struck a good balance. I think
they did, because it's basically you dump

478
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:01.160
until you're a gun and they just
charge. A lot of the guys just

479
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:05.400
charge at you, so you're just
dumping off your gun until they're getting close

480
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.400
enough and then you kind of whack
them with your whatever melee weapon you have

481
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.519
and they're eventually gonna have to roll
out of the way because they're gonna swarm

482
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:15.000
you, and you can reload and
just start dumping guys again. But man,

483
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:16.640
it's super fun when they're charging you
and you're just unloading, and if

484
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:20.880
you're pretty good with headshots, you
can try and like just watch dudes heads

485
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:23.119
explode as like a horde of guys
are running in trying to get you.

486
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:28.759
And that's one And also just when
a guy starts trucking and you turn run

487
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:32.400
on. It's just a really weighty
animation. So just barreling into a guy

488
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:37.559
and doing a shoulder charge and watching
and explode. Then it's it's pretty fun.

489
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.880
It's a lot of exploding. Uh, it does get pretty difficult.

490
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.680
I thought the combat was a pretty
easy and tol about eighty percent of the

491
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.720
way through, and then it's started
getting kind of tough. Started crowd management

492
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.960
stuff. Just when they start shooting
back. Yeah, it's like, oh,

493
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:57.279
now these guys have guns and like
the lightning bolts out of their hands.

494
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.640
Then it's started getting really chaos.
Yeah, and it was like crap

495
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.559
because any basically fighting other space,
right, it's just like lesser dudes.

496
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.000
No, it's like now you're fighting
yourself and that was hard. I didn't

497
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:12.720
try any of the multiplayer stuff,
but yeah, the campaign moves, it's

498
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.400
good. It's it's it's kind of
heartwarming. How public opinion sort of turned

499
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.079
positive on that game. Yeah,
in the last like a couple of weeks

500
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.240
or whatever, because I mean,
you know, the business in the press

501
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.839
two or three months ago. What
was that back in like May? Yeah,

502
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:27.720
yeah, it was coming out of
the just coming out of that pre

503
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.640
three Judges thing that I was at
was kind of ugly, where everyone was

504
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.480
dead tired because it was the last
event of the week, so I think

505
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.920
a lot of people weren't in any
condition to be looking at games in the

506
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:38.480
first place. But on top of
that, that game they made, the

507
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:43.839
demo they gave was one of the
most boring things I've ever seen because they

508
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.519
made it look like Gears of War
with no cover. So it's like,

509
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:52.200
here's Gears of War without the mechanic
that made Gears of War. So it's

510
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.440
just like, okay, so I
just run forward and fucking shoot these guys.

511
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.759
Like it just looked like the dumbest
game in the world. I think

512
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:00.960
it's I think it is kind of
dumb, but I think that's okay.

513
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:06.480
But it didn't look I don't know, maybe it's just the area they were

514
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.719
showing, or they were stopping to
show weapons and stopping to show stuff too

515
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:13.039
often or something like that, but
it was just a really terrible demo that

516
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.400
didn't give you a good sense of
the actual pace of that game. Great

517
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:21.880
games can't absolutely get shit demos like
that's especially if you were still in not

518
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:23.280
even saying this is great, but
I'm saying, you know, that's yeah,

519
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:27.360
that happens. But yeah, if
yeah, if you want to know

520
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.480
why, Like everyone was super down
on Space Marine coming out of that stuff

521
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.480
because that demo looked like garbage.
Well and also but also the game I

522
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.119
played on the PC, it looks
really good too. Also looks really nice.

523
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.719
It looks really nice. And title
screen, what's that for? Pretty?

524
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:46.000
Just dude shooting dudes, shooting dudes
over and over again endlessly. That's

525
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:50.440
his ya, that's his hell on
Earth. Uh, you know, And

526
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.239
there's some story in it. I
don't think. I don't think the story

527
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.960
is spectacular, but you know,
there is something there. There's something that

528
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.440
I feel like, I feel like
you're just becoming I think, like with

529
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:05.159
with your pre forty K fiction reading
that you've been doing, I feel like

530
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.280
all this is just confusing you.
Like there's not there's nothing in there to

531
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:13.599
get confused about. It's like there's
space marines. There's space marines. They're

532
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.199
on this world. They need you're
on this world. You're trying to protect

533
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:22.440
this asset from the bad guys.
Yeah, and there's you know, that's

534
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.840
it do it? I mean there's
stuff in there that I feel like if

535
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.920
your way into the fiction is really
rewarding, like, oh, that's a

536
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.239
titan, Like that's awesome. You
get to see an actual titan, like

537
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.480
walk around on it, and like
what is because even in the books that

538
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:40.920
I'm reading, like titans are just
like basically these walking uh world destroyers.

539
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.639
Like you drop like one or two
titans onto the world and it's like game

540
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:50.639
over for the bad guys. They're
just these ridiculous I don't know, epic

541
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:52.119
units. I guess you would call
them if it were like an RTS,

542
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.119
it would be the thing you build
last at the end of the tech tree.

543
00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:00.320
Uh. So to kind of see
it in the game after reading all

544
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.719
these descriptions about have raised always an
awe when they see one, and they're

545
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.679
they're crazy, you know. It's
kind of cool size of an aircraft carrier,

546
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.400
Like what are we talking? But
it's like I think they're always on

547
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:15.920
like two legs, and basically they're
big. They're big enough that it takes

548
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.760
like like lots of people to operate
it, like they're inside it like walking

549
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:23.760
around. Uh they're they're they're big, they're gigantic, you know. But

550
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:28.280
most of the stuff is based off
of books and tabletop stuff, So who

551
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.800
knows what the cannon is. I'm
sure there's some tabletop book that's just expects

552
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:37.280
yea, the life size one.
So that's cool, and you know,

553
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.440
I'm sure, like you know,
they mentioned stuff like that codex and stuff

554
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.760
like that. That is like for
people who are in on the fiction.

555
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:47.039
That's like, you know, interesting
to see some fan service. But I

556
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.199
just like the action. Really did
play it with a controller, and I

557
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:52.480
think that's the way to play that
game. Yeah. The time I spent

558
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:57.639
playing it with the mouse was it
just didn't feel right. Yeah, I

559
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:02.440
don't know. Is the demo available
like on the on PC? Sure?

560
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.920
Because I got it with the you
know, by pre ordering it early,

561
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:08.800
they should put it out if it's
not for everybody. I don't know.

562
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.840
Is your demo in the three six
down? Yeah? Okay, yeah,

563
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:15.000
check it out. I mean,
I bet the demo will get you a

564
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.400
good feel for it. But I
wouldn't I wouldn't dismiss it just because it's

565
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.719
forty k There's some good action stuff
in it, uh and the like there's

566
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.039
no snap to cover, but you
will have to go behind a wall,

567
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.920
right, ye, walk behind stuff? Yeah, you don't want to get

568
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.159
shot. You have to run away
everyone in a while. Your you never

569
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:36.760
run away space space rain never runs
away, spacially never runs away. You

570
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:40.239
walk backwards sex next man. I
don't know. I wish there was just

571
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:45.039
another game, like just shoot dudes
pop out. Yeah, well Gars,

572
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:47.320
like you were saying, Gear you
you really want to see them again.

573
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:50.639
If I could have popped Gears in, that's what it would have been.

574
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.679
You did not get your fill of
that from Space Range. No, I'm

575
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:58.320
I'm going they are not. It
is not the same again. But but

576
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.079
I'm looking to Gears. I'm really
excited to finish Gears of War. I

577
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:04.920
want to close that big. You
almost sound like you wanted out of your

578
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.679
life kind of well, you know, it's like one of those things like

579
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:12.519
they set up all this weird stuff
in two that was like what is going

580
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.440
on Gears of War? Like the
Lamb and the you know dudes that are

581
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:21.480
glowing and exploding because they're in the
oil too much and the planet is imploding

582
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.800
and it's all crazy stuff going on. So I just want to see where

583
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:29.000
it ends, uh, or if
it ends, or if they put Marcus

584
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:35.199
in an escape pod and shooting him
across the galaxy or whatever. That's the

585
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:40.639
game High five Tag Team Wrestlers,
and then in some crazy universe wrestling league

586
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:46.360
with Vince McMahon Space McMahon. Yep, Space McMahon. So yeah, I'll

587
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:50.960
play that game if I could have
populate you. You wish you had something

588
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.079
that you just shoot and have dumb
stuff happen. I don't want to have

589
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:57.599
to make choices. I really,
I've made so many choices in games and

590
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.239
das actually have to make choices,
Catherine. I'm sure you have to make

591
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:05.079
plenty of choices. I was gonna
say, and you have to make the

592
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:09.440
choice to play Castlevania coming off of
choice, You're probably choiced up. I'm

593
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:14.639
a little choice. I'm inventoried up
to pretty choice inventory. Don't give me.

594
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:16.599
I don't want to put anything carry, So no Dead Island for you.

595
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:20.199
Then I was thinking about buying them
on PC? Is that all?

596
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.079
Is that to go? Now?
Version seems to be pretty much fun though,

597
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.440
I don't know, dude, it's
still a black screen play on that.

598
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.800
Man, they put out another patch. How long has it been since

599
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.920
you tried I tried it last night, man, Yeah, I was thinking

600
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:36.599
about getting at this point. It
probably is the dual monitor thing. And

601
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:38.239
you know, every time I say
something about it, people say like,

602
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.760
dude, just don't plug your monitor. No, I don't want to play

603
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.960
it. That bad Hard Reset,
I think, is what I'm gonna do

604
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.960
next. Okay, that would be
stuff. Yeah, I played a little

605
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:50.800
bit of Hard Reset. It was
all the same stuff that we had played

606
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:55.519
in the quick look. But that's
still the game still is awesome. Yeah,

607
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:00.199
and I bought that you know Steam
those those things now or it's not

608
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:01.239
even like a pre order bonus.
It's like, hey, get like twenty

609
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.400
percent off right right now. I'm
like, well, I'm gonna probably buy

610
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:06.679
it when it comes out. So
it was, yes, you got me,

611
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:08.880
here's here's twenty seven here's twenty seven
bucks. And the game is and

612
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:13.840
that game seems like it's just straight
up about like run down this path and

613
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:15.760
shoot shit. Yeah, I just
gonna fly out at you and then you're

614
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.920
gonna blast all these robots. Enjoy
the visuals while yeah, everything's gonna look

615
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.920
crazy and blow up real good.
So that's a good explosions. Yeah,

616
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.480
that's that's a good fit. That's
a good fit. And then I've got

617
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:27.719
I haven't seen much of that game. I really it looks cool. You

618
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:31.159
should check it up here and here
an old school first person shooter actually played

619
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:35.760
pretty It's got a little bit of
blade ruddery, like a lot of neon.

620
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.599
That sounds exciting. It seems like, I don't know, like like

621
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:46.400
thath alright, like if you know, late nineties first person shooter design just

622
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:53.119
hopped a decade, m like just
but in a good way, like very

623
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:57.000
like limited in scope, like it's
you're always in kind of a tight corridor

624
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:04.559
running down some you know, towards
something like pain Killer. Yeah, yeahs

625
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.239
yes, okay, sure. Do
you like guns? That's one of the

626
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:08.400
things I didn't like my pain Killer
was the setting and all that. Do

627
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.880
you like Do you like robots are
better? Do you like guns that you

628
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:20.760
never have to reload? Yeah?
Sure, that's the transform like having one

629
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.000
gun that transforms and all of your
guns because you only have two guns,

630
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:27.719
but you buy upgrades for them to
turn your two guns into three guns eat,

631
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.440
so that you have six kind of
vanquishy with transforming guns. Yeah,

632
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.159
a little bit, but you but
you have like basically your regular AMMO gun

633
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.519
and your energy weapon gunn. Do
you like ridiculous menu? My god,

634
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:43.760
ridiculous video animations that take it at
the beginning though, where literally I never

635
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.159
want to change my screen resolution ever
again, because it took me like a

636
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:50.360
minute and a half just to get
to that robotic arm. And they're just

637
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.119
these like data slates in the floor
and the wall that the robotic arm has

638
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.480
to pick out of the wall out
and then put down. And that's like

639
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:59.400
one minute that It's like going from
like mains like options. Right from options

640
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:00.800
there's video audio game. Man,
I'm like, okay, I want to

641
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:02.679
go to video all right, then
I have to go and grab the other

642
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.519
slate and put it in. It's
like very detailed, smooth animation with lots

643
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.000
of little kind of characters to it. Kind of sounds okay. The game

644
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:15.320
world you are is awesome, though, it's all like holographic projected stuff.

645
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:17.400
You like walk up to it and
suddenly you're controlling a mouse with your mouse.

646
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.719
Anyways, Yeah, good contextual stuff
with that. It looks good it

647
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.880
but I was just having crazy performance
issues, Like I was just having it

648
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.519
hit like I'd played that Come on
PC before and it's been fine, and

649
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:30.280
no, it's just it was changing
up a lot. But then I was

650
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:34.519
also trying to play a build a
FEZ and I was getting the same thing

651
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.039
there, and that game is it
shouldn't be that. Yeah, that game

652
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:39.639
should not do that to your PC
or to my PC. At least it's

653
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:44.760
it's good enough. I've also got
that I've downloaded. But maybe we'll maybe

654
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:46.039
we'll try and quick look at or
something. Because I haven't seen any of

655
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:52.239
it that ann yeah, yeah,
probably to you. I have not played

656
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:57.039
it like the singer. Yeah,
it's like a time travel e RTS.

657
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:01.079
I know, I don't people keep
seeing that. What does that mean?

658
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.480
I don't know. I've watched the
movies of it, and I haven't really

659
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.239
understand the units. I think you're
in your units back in time. If

660
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:14.280
you fuck up, you're fighting on
the fourth dimension or rewinding the whole battle.

661
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.760
I don't think you are, or
just the the units, you know

662
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.159
what I'm I'm gonna stop talking about
it because all I did was watch a

663
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.719
bit of a trailer and went like, all right, I see RTS units

664
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.039
and then they moved somewhere else because
time. Yeah, and then I stopped

665
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.400
watching it quickly because it sounds super
interesting. Yeah, could could change the

666
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:36.639
game, man, We need a
game changer for the RTS genre, just

667
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:38.039
any any kind of game changer.
Change the game. We did in turn

668
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:40.159
to get up and put a new
disc in the system is what he's saying.

669
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.239
Please change the game if you just
put in anything else, anything else.

670
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:50.760
So that's what I did. Witcher
and Space Well, congratulations on finishing

671
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:52.719
the Witcher too, Thank you very
much of your life. I don't know

672
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.880
when I would play it again,
but it definitely sets you up to play

673
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:59.960
it some more. I am excited
to. I'm glad also glad that you

674
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.239
finished Space Marine. I'm kind of
bummed that I did, but I'm glad

675
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.000
I did. I actually because I
really just enjoyed playing. Yeah, that

676
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.840
sounds like it looked like and that's
not a game kept up. I need

677
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.320
to play again. No, it
definitely doesn't sound like it. And I

678
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.519
am excited to hear your future thoughts
on hard Reset because I think that's a

679
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:20.480
good fit. Yeah, and it
sounds like it's super long either from what

680
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.760
i've what reports I've heard, so
not a lot of choices. No,

681
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:27.400
well there is you know, your
upgrade path. Yeah, that's fun,

682
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:31.239
and there's also like crazy hidden areas
in that game. So I do want

683
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:35.039
to play Dato sex. That game
sounds awesome. I actually want to play

684
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.000
Driver as well. It sounds pretty
cool, and also want to play Resistance

685
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.039
as well, a lot of games. And it's not slowing down that much.

686
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:45.840
So Gear's out next week, yeah
and speeding up. I bought that

687
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:50.239
copy. It's coming on Tuesday one
Amazon. Would you get the special fancy

688
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.880
what's the what are the fancy Gears? There is a steel book edition and

689
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.360
epic edition. What's the one that's
six hundred dollars? That's the console?

690
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:02.159
Okay, next, what's what's that? That's that's not even just the console.

691
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:06.840
That's the console plus a bunch of
bundle bullshit. And it's actually really

692
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:12.480
center Bucks because it's like here's the
Gears, you know, like well that

693
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.400
yeah, so yeah, if you
want to dumb it, you're trying to

694
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.320
figure out, like what the that's
just the mist a retailer bundle. That's

695
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:22.119
not a real Okay, that was
like that's not an actual game, stop

696
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.159
like specific bundle. Then I think, yeah, but there's still a Gears

697
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.199
console, right, Yes, there's
a Gears console that comes the game.

698
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.920
So the bundle was that, and
then on top of that, like a

699
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:34.800
headset and a bunch of other cracks. Okay, but the but the console

700
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.920
that Microsoft is selling is just the
game and a fancy painted console, and

701
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:45.199
three twenty already exists. That's the
Yeah, but they gotta have something because

702
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:46.840
Star Wars got pushed back, so
they can't put that or assume they are

703
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:51.719
not. I think that Star Wars
they did push back the console system.

704
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:53.440
But yeah, all those all those
console bundles, the star Wars one,

705
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.679
the Gears one, and I believe
the Modern Warfare one or twenties. So

706
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:01.239
the big, the packing big thing
is a figuring that's like the Yeah,

707
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:07.000
the Epic Edition comes with like a
Marcus Phoenix figure, Okay, and removable

708
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:10.079
do rag? No, you don't
want to see what's under there? I

709
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:15.119
saw it, really, I guess
we can't talk about it. Yeah,

710
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:17.400
well, all right, so I'm
done talking about the games. I'm gonna

711
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.039
play. I can't. Yeah,
I mean, so I will say that

712
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.760
that Epic Edition is probably like one
of the best like collector's editions kind of

713
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:31.079
thing. Like there's some just super
well made shit in there, like like

714
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:37.679
like the the styrofoam that that is
pack that they used to pack the figures

715
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.400
has like the cog in it and
stuff like they went to lengths to make

716
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:45.000
even the stropham look good, which
is kind of a weird thing. But

717
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:49.320
like, is there anything you'd actually
use like well packaged? Yes, yes,

718
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.000
extremely well packed. No. I
mean I'm not a big figure collector

719
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.599
and stuff like that. And there's
no like books. There's no book or

720
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:58.719
like the Halo stuff or it's like
here's this diary that like nothing. Okay,

721
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.360
I think it's more trinkets and stuff. Right, there's there's like a

722
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:05.519
mark a statue like the box.
Actually the game I'll show it to you.

723
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:08.280
That space Marine thing was pretty cool
too. That weird was it that

724
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:14.039
the Collector is a giant book with
it's a big gass box. But it

725
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:15.639
like I can't put that stuff on
my shelf anymore. Yeah, yeah,

726
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:21.480
totally done with it. Disks on. But I do like I do like

727
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.800
a steelcase. I like those.
Yeah. It's like there's three three versions

728
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:27.519
of a regular version, some kind
of steel book edition, and then this

729
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.800
epic one. I think the steel
book probably comes with the in game stuff.

730
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.199
If I had to guess, oh
yeah that that also comes to the

731
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:36.679
opic one. That's how I would
break it. Up anyway, it knows

732
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:39.800
I dis ordered the game and you
just want Gears of War. I think

733
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:44.800
I think Amazon may have given me
some domb skin or something. I don't

734
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:51.920
know, it's like some pre ordering
domb skinless. I'm not going to grill

735
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.280
you on any any gear stuff,
but let's say I'll talk about it on

736
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:58.199
Thursday. Yeah, Thursday when the
Barker is up for review stuff. Look,

737
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.760
and you know I gotta write that. Yeah, yeah, Gear's of

738
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:05.280
War three man, yep, that
is a video game. It's gonna come

739
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.400
out soon. And then I also
played a whole bunch of Forts of four,

740
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.119
but yeah, also can't say.
You can't say that until way longer

741
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:15.800
story. Yeah, I can't wait
to see what they do. That's yeah,

742
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:20.239
where this is all headed? The
fourth end? Final Forts finish the

743
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:24.360
fight for four? What does what
does that speed line want? Find out?

744
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:29.159
Ferraris to the end. You find
out why it's been changing colors for

745
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:34.760
all these games, launched a Ferrari
into space across the universe. Anytime you

746
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:37.519
need to just wake it up.
That's how the gonna tie that ward hog

747
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:43.440
into the Forts. Didn't know this, but it's gonna cross the stream fell

748
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:47.800
onto forts the World master chiefs just
playing Yes, Forts the World. Fortune

749
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.599
does not take place on Earth,
it turns out, no, that's where

750
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.440
there are no drivers in those cars. Takes place on a world of No,

751
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:58.800
they're totally drivers in those cars.
There are cockpit VI you see hands,

752
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:00.960
you do, there's just hands.
Do you ever see their head?

753
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:05.360
The windows are all tinted, right, No, you can. You can

754
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.679
tint the windows if you But I
don't know. Yeah, no, I

755
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:10.719
think you actually do see people in
these cars. Helmets, you know,

756
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:15.280
just helmeted. Random model. It's
not any kind of you don't pick your

757
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:21.360
dude, I guess I shouldn't say
one way or the other. I mean,

758
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:24.159
yes, the universe, the fourths
of verse. You do not,

759
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:29.320
you know, pick a driver?
Is that this year? Yeah? That's

760
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:35.800
October? Man, give me to
buy another race. You have that new

761
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.559
racing wheels specifically for this thing that
I think might actually work across all platforms.

762
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:45.840
I don't think Microsoft is making used
ones. That sounds crazy. Yeah,

763
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.159
I either think it might just be
a generic UOUSP device or something like

764
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:52.599
that. I think it might be
well whatever, maybe they'd sell. I

765
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:59.559
want to say they partnered with someone
that makes wheels the the cross platform way,

766
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:04.360
so it might actually might actually happen
this time. One wheel to drive

767
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.280
them all. There you go,
sold, don't buy racing wheel. I

768
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.679
would buy that racing don't buy I
would totally just buy it. Why because

769
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:13.840
we need to test it out.
Buy that racing wheel. Hey, you

770
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.760
know what, Vinny changing my mind? Buy that racing wheel. I wonder

771
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:19.360
if I buy if I buy the
forts a wheel, can I use that

772
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.519
with the ward hog for a wheel
if it will make me happy? It's

773
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:28.159
worked with everything else. Spending money
on yourself is the only way to come

774
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:32.480
on these fifteen touch fads I brought. Now I'm happy finally for the next

775
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:35.880
twenty minutes, and then I gotta
go. I gonna go buy some burger.

776
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:38.119
Yeah, that'll make me happy.
Get this book at a chicken.

777
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:42.440
Don't talk about it. I was
happy for like five minutes. Now I

778
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:45.000
was just really depressed. But now
it can only be happier again after this

779
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.760
Moment's right, You're you're happy because
you didn't eat any of that KFC that

780
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:51.760
was in the office today. Hell
yeah, I am. Once a year

781
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:54.360
is enough, Actually three times a
year is enough. The piece that I

782
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:59.239
had is will count as my once
every probably two years or something. Actually,

783
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.159
you're not a big KFC. No. When I do go, I

784
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:06.719
don't actually get like chicken pieces of
chicken. I'll get like chicken sandwiches or

785
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:08.519
something like that. And it's actually
also an AMW so I'm just as likely

786
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:15.480
you get some hot dogs, play
fried cheese curves. Yeah, camped,

787
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:22.639
I wish the arc spook like that
bays Marine player. Don't try and take

788
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.639
us down. So yeah, that's
uh, that's most that's that's what you

789
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:31.239
played. Yeah, yeah, basically, and then also more track Mania two,

790
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:36.559
which is a really good game to
play for seven minutes at a time.

791
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:37.360
If if you're just like I just
want to play something right now,

792
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.440
and you play Rongo, all right, I'm satiated. I can go move

793
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.599
on with my life for a bit
now, subsided, Yes, and then

794
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:49.719
two hours later I could play That's
weird. That's exactly how I approach StarCraft,

795
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.199
like play like one match of the
time, like all right, I'm

796
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.599
good. Thirty minutes to two hours
later, I'm right back there again.

797
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:59.000
Yeah, go for another It's really
it's really good for those kind of weekends

798
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:02.880
where it's just like I'm just sitting
here waiting to die. All right,

799
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:09.480
I'll play the track Madia soon the
minute. Basically I could go to bed

800
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:14.480
early and then Monday would become I
can just go to work because I have

801
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.880
to do that. That's track Media, not track Mania that came out.

802
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:22.920
No, it's it's totally Yeah,
they were saying the fourteenth I guess,

803
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:29.000
but that's that's real soon and they
haven't updated their blogs. There's been an

804
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:35.000
update to the beta at least,
so work is progressing. But yeah,

805
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.719
it's it's you've received you've received content
updates. Yes, no, no,

806
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:44.000
not beta. No, it's it's
not even a content update because there's really

807
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:47.159
there's no content in this beta.
I think. I don't know if it's

808
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:51.119
shipped with any track, but I
mean it's all just made by players.

809
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:54.599
I mean you downloaded a thing,
that downloaded the thing in Beta four and

810
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.159
yeah, I don't know. That's
I guess. I guess. When I

811
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:04.079
say content, I mean like just
code like anything. Yeahs of something that

812
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:09.480
that changed what happens when a race
ends? Old Gifts just plays Kokomo,

813
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:14.480
Yeah, over and over, Yeah, pretty much Cinney Crawford Gifts. But

814
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.079
yeah, that game is still a
whole lot of fun, and that's still

815
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:22.280
Canyon. Yeah, that's Canyon Yeah. And shoot Manias after this, I

816
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:27.000
don't believe that exists. I don't
I don't believe shoot Mania or what's the

817
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.280
quest Mania quest Mania. I don't
believe either of those exists even any form

818
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:37.199
storm. I believe shoot Mania and
quest Mania are both bullet points at best

819
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:39.199
right now, until the universe has
merged and I could drive a car through

820
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:45.719
somebody's I know, I swear that
they had European press, Like it would

821
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:50.039
be right, it would be cool
to it's European press, but sure it

822
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:53.000
would be cool to even just be
doing a first person shooter while you see

823
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:58.800
crazy cars driving around in some distant
things, and I feel like that's it's

824
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.320
more compelling in this setting then,
like you know, there's the the you

825
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:06.599
know, dust and evonline connection stuff. Yeah, but this is such a

826
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:10.440
bananas, Like calling track Mania a
universe in of itself is an absurd thing

827
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:14.599
to say, because like this is
barely a level many a planet. Man,

828
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:16.880
it's all one thing. Like what
if you get in your car and

829
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:21.599
drive to the track Mania getting and
then you're like, I'm done with this

830
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:22.920
drive and I'm gonna get out of
my car, gonna drive to where the

831
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.760
people are shooting. Well, that
would be great, jump out of my

832
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:30.840
whip and just start shooting. Do
I read some of the stuff and it's

833
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:36.239
all like translated from you know,
French or you know, like whatever whatever

834
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:39.079
it is. There were a lot
of previews that English languages that people were

835
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.320
translating and stuff like that. So
I was reading a lot of like machine

836
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.960
translated stuff about what shoot Mania is. So it's really hard to even tell

837
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:47.960
what it is. But I think
there might only be one weapon. I

838
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:52.480
don't even know, Like I can't
even tell what the hell is going on

839
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:54.840
in that thing. And that such
reasonable. And you shoot cars at people,

840
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:59.320
so like cars as the AMMO.
Yeah, it's a gun that shoots

841
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.000
cars. You actually shoot track mania
tracks that people are driving on at the

842
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:06.960
time. That's how crazy. And
so it's really is you're shooting tracks and

843
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:09.760
then the cars are driving the cars
finish a lap by the time they hit

844
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:15.159
the target. Is how much damage
it does? Maybe you're shooting piece still,

845
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:17.639
but there's but it's also like crowdsource
dice rolls because it's also quest Mania

846
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:22.719
at the same time, So you're
getting your XP. You're shooting pieces of

847
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.199
the track that people have to drive
on while people are already driving on it,

848
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.159
So you're just cutting out the section. And if they happen to be

849
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.400
driving on that section while you're shooting
that track, then you get that damage

850
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:34.679
bonus. All right, I play
that game. Yeah, all I know

851
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:37.079
is that I tried to use the
track editor in the track of the previous

852
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:40.199
track Mania and couldn't make sense of
it, and tried to use this one

853
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:43.480
in track Mania two and still camp. I was gonna say, I was

854
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:45.719
giving a flat track that you know, turns and twists and stuff like that.

855
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:50.960
But everything we're talking about is is
an appropriate level of crazy for track

856
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:54.159
Mania, but it is inappropriate in
functionality based on what I've seen of track

857
00:55:54.239 --> 00:56:00.920
Mania over the years. Like that
game is awesome, that game also barely

858
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:07.360
functions. It functions just fine.
It's it's uh, come on, come

859
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.679
on, like it's it works in
spide it like you have two hundred people

860
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:15.159
on one server. There are things
about it that are extraordinary, absolutely,

861
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:17.480
but it's also like you're like,
wow, like the sacrifices that had to

862
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:22.760
have been made in focusing just on
let's see how many fucking cars we can

863
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.159
get on this track at once.
So when they promise you a world,

864
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:30.480
a universe of track Mania, yeah
you just what are you talking about?

865
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:36.480
This is your response is you've hardly
got a game out the door kind of

866
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:39.519
kind of, I guess just for
as long and as much as as you

867
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:43.840
know, track Menia two has been
talked about, and you know, we

868
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:46.679
are at barely a beta, like
and it's it's I mean it's it's it's

869
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.840
an honest beta. But yeah,
totally Yeah, the multiplayers in there,

870
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:53.800
it's it's solid X servers and to
your point, that's probably pretty much what

871
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:58.039
people want. But like, also, you know you've said that that's the

872
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.800
pretty much have made track Menia again
again. Yeah, I mean all new

873
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:06.119
handling model, which is actually it
is a really huge change on that.

874
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:07.760
But you know, yeah, in
terms of just like what the game is

875
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.559
and and all that stuff, yeah, it's it's pretty much same. I'm

876
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:15.679
not even you know, I I
have no issue. I take no truck

877
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:20.760
against the like the no clipping stuff
like, that's that is a design choice.

878
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.280
I get it. That's fine,
and that's fundamental to what that game

879
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:28.519
is. And it works to the
ends of that game. But yeah,

880
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:34.519
fucking track media, fucking quest Media's
surprised there were any guns and shoot media,

881
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:43.119
it's just faceball. I'm in faceball. We never played any faceball during

882
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:45.480
this now, No, weally did? Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean,

883
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:52.400
okay, how was that? What
do you think the definitive version of

884
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:55.559
faceball is? Game Boy? Yeah? I don't know. Wasn't that the

885
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:59.400
four didn't used the four players?
After my crazy? That? Did it?

886
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:04.599
Totally? Did? I try and
think of all of the platforms though

887
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:07.280
faceball appeared on it seemed like it
was kind of a lot there for a

888
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:09.880
while. Yeah, it was kind
of everything Spectrum hollow By joint on this

889
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:15.079
nest, wasn't Yeah, well was
that faceball or faceball two thousand? That's

890
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:19.360
no, there's no difference. It's
just there's just the one tricking me by

891
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:21.960
making me think there was a previous
nation to faceball by calling it a faceball

892
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.320
two thousand. Yeah, those sons
bitches special hollow By. I hope you're

893
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:31.000
burning hell. They already are.
It's cool, Brad, they don't exist.

894
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:37.400
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Game developer Hell Falcon five point o

895
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:43.199
coming to sleepy chicken brad dude.
Combination of fried chicken and track menia discussion

896
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.039
speaking your eyelids just drop its conspired
to shut down my brain, right,

897
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:51.480
you got to you got to get
a little can't handle it pro StarCraft two

898
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:55.760
action on during the live show on
Friday. Yeah, and then you guys

899
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.519
got your got your asses whipped in
your dog pile. You were the first

900
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.880
one knocked out. Yeah, our
own demor and bunker rushed me, and

901
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.719
I didn't catch the bunker until the
hair's breadth of a second too late.

902
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:12.400
You were you playing under your own
account? Yeah, so he knew who

903
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:15.800
he knew to go get your account
name? Yeah, okay, yeah.

904
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.400
Well but also it's just the way
we spawned. I spawned right next to

905
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:22.440
him, so I was the first
person. He's still I think he just

906
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:27.440
went for the first person he could
get to. Almost I almost repelled him.

907
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:30.360
Not blown my horn here, because
I mean, it's not that hard

908
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:32.239
to do. It's just a matter
of timing anything that would have changed.

909
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:36.760
All I had to do was killed
the SEV that was making his bunker before

910
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:37.760
he finished it, and he couldn't
put marines in it. And I had

911
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.679
zealots out and that would have been
it, but you didn't, and he

912
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.400
barely danced that sev out of there. I think he brought another one over

913
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:47.960
and finished the bunker off, and
at that point there was nothing I could

914
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:52.440
do. Speaking aways, Jeff,
I, now we're calling you. Also

915
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:57.199
played a little Ultimate Marvel versus Capcom
three I did during that big live live

916
00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:02.039
show. Anything about that experience,
well, I wasn't playing it so much

917
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:06.360
as as we were just kind of
talking about characters and showing stuff off.

918
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:12.000
So was kind of showing off some
specific moves, so I didn't necessarily get

919
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:15.480
a match in or anything like that. Okay, yeah, you know,

920
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:20.079
it's it's it's like the bullet points
on the press release say they're adding characters

921
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:23.800
and spectator mode and and all that
stuff, and and it's still kind of

922
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:29.039
a crazy game. So we'll see
if this is this game kind of gets

923
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:32.039
back in the good graces of like
the fighting game community, you know,

924
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:38.360
because it's needs some some shuffling to
uh give it some longevity. So yeah,

925
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:40.400
it's gonna take more than just new
characters like that. You know,

926
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:44.440
they are doing some rebalancing and adding
moves to characters and stuff like that.

927
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:49.719
So kind of see if if a
lot of people still bitching that X factors

928
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.719
in it at all or the way
X factor works, even though they are

929
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.199
changing up some of the ways that
are changing up the way that X factor

930
01:00:55.320 --> 01:01:00.039
works in the game. So yeah, all right, not much to report

931
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:05.800
there other than it's got some dudes
in it. Cool wait dudes? Yeah

932
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:13.880
fight Mania, I mean yeah,
yes, one yeah, one move and

933
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:19.199
no clipping and you fight on the
roofs of the cars. Great cars are

934
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.280
the fighters, man, just like
fighters Mega mix. I know it's been

935
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.599
done. It's a proven formula.
Brandon Jeff, You guys also got to

936
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:30.400
play a little Johan's Boston jouse.
It was awesome during the live show.

937
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:34.639
Yeah, I mean it's been places
where it's been played, but yeah,

938
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.559
maybe a little too self conscious to
play it. Then you start drinking.

939
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:45.280
I was not drinking for you,
but but on a live stream in front

940
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:49.639
of nine thousand people. Actually I
didn't I had played the night before the

941
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:51.639
show. I didn't even know were
you not? Were you not? You

942
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:53.920
know. By the time I got
back there, there was already controllers were

943
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:57.239
taken. I was like, I
could go push one of these interns down

944
01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:00.480
take controller, but I forget it. Take then you win? So how

945
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:08.079
many people were playing five? And
sure, okay, I don't think it

946
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:14.360
can go up to eight because the
Bluetooth limit is seven devices. I think

947
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:17.159
my favorite part of that entire game
is this sound it makes when you hit

948
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:21.920
the button boom. Yeah yeah,
well I like both this that noise and

949
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.679
also when you knocked out they had
a crash noise. Oh that's a great

950
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:29.960
noise. That well's I mean,
that's all that game. It has a

951
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:32.880
sound design, so it's good that
it's great the minimal parts that has do

952
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:37.519
you sound good? I don't like
the music so much, like that aspect

953
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:39.199
of it. I feel like,
you know, that's that's something that they

954
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:44.599
should give some options on. Take
some other Well. I can understand based

955
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:49.119
on the name of the game.
The spirit of the game is absolutely but

956
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.679
you know, just it w give
me like a heartbeat that speeds up and

957
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:54.800
slows down or can you just use
your own song and I'll just slow down?

958
01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:00.199
I bet, I bet that's something
that it will actually do eventually.

959
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:05.840
Sure, yeah, but that game
is still so like being developed into Like

960
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:08.119
you know, Patrick contacted the guys
who are working on it, and they

961
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:10.000
gave us a build and they said, yeah, this is kind of the

962
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:14.440
most recent build we have and it's
you know, it's a little over sensitive.

963
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:16.800
They had you know, prefaced so
with like yeah, like with calibration

964
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:20.719
on this stuff because you know,
having to they started off using we remotes

965
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.079
for this this project. And then
they're like, well we get better sensitivity

966
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:27.920
out of the you know, the
the fidelity of movements better on a move

967
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:30.639
controller. So you know, went
to that and I guess, yeah,

968
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.760
there's the colored ball. Yeah,
having the little colored balls and and be

969
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:36.400
able to use that because that one
lets you do that's what lets you do

970
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:42.000
team play, right, So I
guess you'd probably find a way anyway.

971
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:46.400
Yeah, I think there's still so
in development that just figuring out kind of

972
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:50.480
it's a fun little party, basic
calibration stuff. It is fun. We

973
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.239
we uh. They booted up after
the show in the back of the bar.

974
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:57.400
There had to be at least i'd
say, what fifty sixty people back

975
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.880
there, and like it just it's
all the tired and the entire throng of

976
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.039
people just like formed around the game
once start being played. I mean,

977
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:08.760
you're you're talking about like accessibility to
it's hard to even call it a video

978
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.679
game really, but it was just
like do you want to try it?

979
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.480
Here we go, what do you
do? Just don't move it quickly?

980
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:16.280
Great when the music slowed out quickly, it was fast. You can move

981
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:19.719
more quickly, but still because everybody
was loving jumping in there and giving a

982
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:25.480
shot, like boys and girls.
A lot of Patrick got his shoes off

983
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:29.079
again. Some food, what's the
food's already getting thrown. It's just escalated

984
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:32.320
into yeah, and then somebody took
a die. Something happened and we shot

985
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:36.760
that. Somebody took a dump back
there like there was there was some there's

986
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:40.320
a point, something happened. They
were like, all right, parties over,

987
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:44.239
Yeah, time to go shut it
down. But yeah, so anyway

988
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:51.039
that was happen, it does get
rowdy really quickly. Then those guys first

989
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:58.440
sending some code. First time I've
wanted to buy a move controllers Sony would

990
01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:02.119
be fucking foolish and not be courting
those guys to get that onto their system.

991
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.920
Somehow. I don't know that that
thing just seems like lawsuit way to

992
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:09.880
happen, but for to for anyone
who does it commercially, Yeah, if

993
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:14.679
you have that hit. Yeah,
they would have to do it where they

994
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:17.239
would have the warning that comes up
on screen, yeah, or they would

995
01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:19.840
have to do it where it integrates
with the p S three and the whole

996
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:24.079
hitting part is gone. And it's
like, now do these activities like touch

997
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:28.599
your head but move really slowly and
like you know, touch your toes,

998
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:30.519
move really slowly. Like that's what
I could see them doing and getting rid

999
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:34.320
of the whole as soon as you
start. Soon as you start levying platform

1000
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:38.280
restrictions on that game is when you
ruin that game. Yeah, because and

1001
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:42.400
and also like locking it to something
somewhere near a television in a lot of

1002
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:44.840
ways too, Like they have a
video up on their site of them playing

1003
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:48.119
it at the beach. You know, Patrick has played it like like Golden

1004
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:54.960
Gate Park or you know it's like
parks hopefully speakers, yeah, I don't

1005
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:57.079
know to be able to hear it. Like that's the appealing part to me,

1006
01:05:57.239 --> 01:05:59.800
is like bringing it somewhere and making
it kind of an outside thing,

1007
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:00.880
right, And I think that's part
A lot of people don't know. It's

1008
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:05.719
like I don't think it should be
spread out as many platforms as possible,

1009
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:11.119
but yeah, we'll see as one
of the most compelling things I've seen.

1010
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:12.960
Like, you know, like Brett
said, done with a move control.

1011
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:15.719
I wonder if you could bluetooth all
those move controllers to an iPhone or other

1012
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:19.039
phone and then run. Well,
the better question is if is if you

1013
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:24.199
can use they need to get it
to the point where my iPhone phone is

1014
01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:29.960
the is the device or I don't
have to have move controllers, or it's

1015
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:33.079
you know, you figure it out
so that I have one kind of Bluetooth

1016
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:36.239
device, you have another kind of
Bluetooth device. Everything that has some sort

1017
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:41.159
of motion sensing in it, and
it's you know, been appropriately calibrated.

1018
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:45.119
So I'm just thinking about how we
have this weird manager of your phone,

1019
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.559
serious risk phone. Then well,
I don't know. I mean, we

1020
01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:51.960
had people throwing shoes at the controllers
people were holding and stuff like that.

1021
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:56.119
It's just, yeah, it's a
good way to get your phone broken.

1022
01:06:56.559 --> 01:07:00.800
Don't say it's assholes. I guess
that's the only play with assholes. It's

1023
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:03.840
the best way to play than yes, share start flying. I flung that

1024
01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:05.719
chair at Brad. I was like, you know, this game is pretty

1025
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:09.920
cool. It works. Then I
was out of the game. See,

1026
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:12.320
if they were to tweak the sensitivity
and put it up, that game gets

1027
01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:15.559
a lot more violent, like where
like the thing doesn't register until you're actually

1028
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:17.800
like on the ground, right,
Yeah, hitting someone in the face.

1029
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:20.079
I guess that's yeah. I guess
you can. You can either make that

1030
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:27.000
game more just like nicer or way
meaner based on how you slide that sensitivity.

1031
01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:31.239
No, I have to I have
to punch hardy, or at least

1032
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:34.599
punch the controller. Yeah he was
anyone for the controller, but I got

1033
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:42.599
your face. I got you right
in the solar plexus. Sorry, still

1034
01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:45.559
creed, bitch. Fuck you took
yourself out this blow it over here,

1035
01:07:48.360 --> 01:08:00.400
Brad. Anything else dead Islands?
Yeah that islands still dead before stars,

1036
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:02.400
I guess yeah, to put up
in spite of its fucked up up with

1037
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:06.159
a bunch of bullshit. I don't
want to say you should play that game,

1038
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:10.719
but if you're into loot and stuff, you probably should even playing it

1039
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:14.239
with you. You know. It's
as much as I don't like zombies,

1040
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:17.119
like when we're playing co op,
the game seems legitimately awesome, and it's

1041
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:23.239
a shame that it has so many
different issues? Are they patchable issues?

1042
01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:26.880
Mostly yeah. Yeah, I continue
to have more weird stuff going on.

1043
01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:30.159
I had a quest completely disappeared from
my quest log at one point, which

1044
01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:32.359
is fine, but I think the
game was just getting me back for the

1045
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:34.960
time that it gave me credit for
a quest that I never did. So.

1046
01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:40.359
But the combat is pretty cool,
yeah yeah. And it's a good

1047
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:44.079
looking world. Yeah, it looks
really nice. I love getting experienced extra

1048
01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:45.880
experience for breaking the bones of the
enemies before I killed them. But I

1049
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:48.800
will say again the opening that game, they broke it. They fucked up.

1050
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:51.720
That intro is terrible like that.
There's the whole intro where there's the

1051
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:57.279
guy rapping on stage, but you
can play as that rapper, and the

1052
01:08:57.439 --> 01:08:59.560
when you start the game, it
picks up from the end of that intro

1053
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:01.680
video, so it's like you're waking
up. I mean, if you if

1054
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:08.119
you are the rapper that you did
through station video or that intro contains every

1055
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:11.359
one of the four playable characters in
it doing stuff, well, see,

1056
01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:14.239
then none of them are the person
from who's perspective. If you are seeing

1057
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:17.800
the intro, it's like the smack, my holy it's totally messed up.

1058
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:20.600
But I mean there are plenty of
times in the game where even if you're

1059
01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:23.720
playing by yourself and you hit a
cut scene, you will get a cut

1060
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:26.920
scene with all four of those characters
in it, interacting and doing stuff as

1061
01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:30.560
if they have been rolling around as
a unit the entire game. A bunch

1062
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.279
of the NPC's address you as a
group of people even when you're by yourself.

1063
01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:36.239
That's hard. I mean, you
know, like you know, better

1064
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:41.359
higher budget games make those mistakes too, of just like like how to word

1065
01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:45.319
the cut scenes or having cases where
uh, you know, someone says,

1066
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:47.840
hey, you need to go hit
that switch, and it's the guy you're

1067
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:53.239
controlling, and then you go hit
that switch. It's like you're telling yourself

1068
01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:56.880
to go hit the switch. I
mean that that's yeah. But this is

1069
01:09:56.920 --> 01:09:59.920
constant, Yeah, like here and
there. It is constant throughout that game.

1070
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.399
It's just it's bizarre. Anyway,
that's a weird game. I messed

1071
01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:06.760
around with the new Xbox dashboard.
Yeah, I want to talk to you

1072
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:10.520
about that because I've seen some screenshots
and I know you and Patrick went to

1073
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:15.880
this meeting with Microsoft, Yes,
and it looks significantly different what it is,

1074
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:19.479
does it? What it is is
it seems like an effort to bring

1075
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:25.720
the Xbox dashboard in line with the
Metro initiative at Microsoft, which is like

1076
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:30.399
the Windows Phone interface. Then the
Netflix app interface like those like it has

1077
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:33.479
that same stuff across the top like
that's yeah, so yeah, there are

1078
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:36.119
some elements so that the text input, although they didn't know there's already been

1079
01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:39.600
some stuff on the Xbox. They
don't have that in so yeah, the

1080
01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:41.720
way you find the way you input
a text like when you bring up the

1081
01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:44.880
on this kind of tangent. But
the on screen keyboard is the one out

1082
01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:47.920
of the current Netflix app on the
sixty, although they they were not sure

1083
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:53.479
if that would be retroactive across everything
that uses text input ever on the Xbox,

1084
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:57.640
like old games. They weren't sure
it's operating differently that that's keyboard.

1085
01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:00.800
Yeah, yeah, it's well,
the Netflix one is just a straight line

1086
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:04.560
of twenty six letters and yeah,
that's which takes way longer than the one

1087
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.920
that they have. But it's more
responsive, which is kind of the common

1088
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:11.039
theme of this thing, and navigating
it is super responsive. It feels as

1089
01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:15.479
snappy as the XMB on the what
about up the pop up guide same basically

1090
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:18.640
the same. I did a quick
launch, So that's one of the things

1091
01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:23.199
I forgot to check. But they've
get ahead of myself there. But it's

1092
01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:27.640
bratt till me. It's not like
one like the like making quick launch the

1093
01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:32.840
main thing sounds like it's one of
the Yeah. Yeah, all I was

1094
01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:35.960
saying about the metro thing is it's
it's Windows fun seven and then also the

1095
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.960
Windows eight like big tile interface,
Like they're all basically the same thing,

1096
01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:43.680
like the kind of design wise,
like the philosophy is the same. But

1097
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:47.680
yeah, the quick play thing is
on the front page of I assume it's

1098
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:49.399
what it takes you to when you
log in, you know, right now

1099
01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:53.079
you go to the spotlight, which
is terrible because it's nothing but adds right

1100
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.880
as opposed to the thing with all
the functionality on it. Right, So

1101
01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.920
I think the default thing now actually
has some functionality, which is a nice

1102
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:02.000
change. It's supposedly, I guess
looking at Patrick's story and talking to him

1103
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:08.039
something about it, like that's supposed
to are that basically replaces the game library

1104
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:11.239
option that you would have off of
the Yeah, there's still a way to

1105
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:14.199
get to that because the quick play
thing is still like the quick launch now

1106
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:15.840
it only shows the most recent like
ten things that you did, but the

1107
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:18.520
big changes that they added apps in
there. So like if you have done

1108
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:21.079
if Netflix was one of the ten
last things you ran, you can launch

1109
01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:25.680
that out of the quick play just
like you can a game, which is

1110
01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:29.640
which is much needed. So the
metro stuff is geared towards touch screens,

1111
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:33.000
isn't it isn't that kind of like
big big blocky things that kind on the

1112
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.920
phone. Definitely? And yeah there
and Windows eight. Windows eight is like

1113
01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:40.039
bound for tablets, so is that
is that something that you feel like the

1114
01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:43.000
connect is going to be more suited, So yeah, there's need. Yeah,

1115
01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:45.720
there's no connect hub now, like
you can navigate this interface with the

1116
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:47.920
connect okay, just like you can
with the controller, but just gotta wait

1117
01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:53.239
for the connect to actually boot and
initialize. Yeah, well that two minutes

1118
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:56.800
of Yeah, connects, I could
have just picked what I wanted, but

1119
01:12:56.960 --> 01:13:00.039
let's go. Yeah, the connect
integration is really pervasive. You can you

1120
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:03.600
can navigate every screen with Connect and
also pretty much anything that you see as

1121
01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:08.159
like a title on on an interface
page, you can say it see that's

1122
01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:12.199
but it's still only the page that
you're currently viewing. So if there's something

1123
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:16.039
somewhere else that has a voice command
you have to pain you can do it

1124
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:20.239
video and then Xbox Netflix. Yeah, I actually wind up using for Netflix

1125
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:26.000
the voice stuff. Uh, it
works pretty well. I just stop when

1126
01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:28.760
I remember that it's there, and
you know, I use that more often.

1127
01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:30.680
I always forget too. Also,
they showed they showed the being stuff

1128
01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:34.399
a little bit with the with the
voice stuff. Yeah, it didn't work

1129
01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:36.520
flawlessly, so you know, at
least you know it was a live demo

1130
01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:40.520
because some of it wouldn't come up, although they swore that it had been

1131
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:44.319
functional. So is that something before? That's when you're like Xbox bing,

1132
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:45.720
and then you say what you want
to start? You just say bing.

1133
01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:48.920
I can't remember. But then some
of those terms are interchangeable, I think.

1134
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:51.199
But it's not like you have to
say like Xbox being searched blah.

1135
01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:55.039
You know, like what what do
you do? You say? It's it's

1136
01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:57.920
sort of stuff. I think.
The examples like you say Xbox bing Harry

1137
01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:00.640
Potter, Yeah, yeah, and
it shows you the video content for it,

1138
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:03.319
right, the Harry Poke. Everything
related to Harry Potter that comes back,

1139
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:09.600
whether it's games and movies or whatever. So there's a dictionary that if

1140
01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:12.039
you're asking, if you're asking,
what is a viable keyword, it's like

1141
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:15.600
right now, it's like broad content
related terms. It's not like it doesn't

1142
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:19.199
have a fully robust like speech recognition
in general. Okay, like you can't

1143
01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:23.560
say anything you can think of.
It's like they're somebody somebody is at Microsoft

1144
01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:30.239
like programming these things being hot teams. What here's Gears of War. But

1145
01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:34.359
they did get it working to the
point that they brought up all the I

1146
01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:38.239
think the Batman stuff and then you
can say like sort by games or whatever

1147
01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:41.479
whatever you cut type of content you
want to see, and then it'll filter

1148
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:45.199
out there. So you're searching like
their media inventory. Yeah, you're not

1149
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:48.600
going to like the Internet at large, right or even just like kind of

1150
01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:53.159
searching for general Batman stuff. And
they said it was intelligent enough that like,

1151
01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:56.039
uh, I forget what example they
gave, but if there's something that's

1152
01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:58.600
on Netflix and on Zoom, you
know, everything on Zoom you're paying for

1153
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:00.399
piece meal and it's kind of ex
and so comparatively, but if it's also

1154
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:02.720
on Netflix, it'll say, hey, this is on Netflix and you already

1155
01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:04.560
have Netflix. I mean, I
can see the big watch it there.

1156
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:10.079
The big thing being really useful if
they actually make it work like this,

1157
01:15:10.199 --> 01:15:14.239
we're finding some of the downloadable suffer
indie stuff that's actually hard. But if

1158
01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:15.760
its stuff you actually need to know
by name, then it gets hard.

1159
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.760
It's not. It's a question of
like what sort of metadata are they tagged,

1160
01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:21.560
like each of these pieces of content
with you know, how is that

1161
01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:26.920
being archived, Xbox being massage games? And then yeah, see what comes

1162
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.680
up? Here's here's up. They're
never going to do any of this stuff

1163
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:35.199
for the indie games. That's that's
the big problem, right, so hopefully

1164
01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:40.319
the at least do it for I'll
be shocked if any of this stuff includes

1165
01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:42.880
any of those indie games. Any
games channel seemed a little more prominent.

1166
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.439
Yeah, I wouldn't call it prominent. Sure it was a little more visible.

1167
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:47.279
You still you had to go to
the games tab and then I think

1168
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.159
you had to go into the generalized
like you know, search all games kind

1169
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:55.119
of thing. You're pretty sure this
is a hard coded dictionary for the for

1170
01:15:55.239 --> 01:16:00.439
They said straight up, coming up
with terms and then make sure the Xbox

1171
01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:03.720
knows that what that term means.
Right. Here's how to pronounce lead Me's

1172
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:11.119
what else is lead miss lead led
me? I mean just everything about everything

1173
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:15.600
about this meeting and seeing this thing
emphasize how much they are pushing non game

1174
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:19.119
applications on this thing, Like yeah, like there's there's a whole separate apps

1175
01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:21.600
channel now I think they're calling them
apps if I remember. I mean it's

1176
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:25.239
where like you know, the Twitter
and the Facebook and and all that stuff

1177
01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:30.119
will go what are you ninety the
Twitter? End of the Facebook? I

1178
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:34.159
use the bing to find the Facebook
to look at the pictures of my granddaughter.

1179
01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:42.279
Ye, when is this stuff rolling
out? This year? They don't

1180
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:46.880
didn't have a fall the marketplace.
Here's here's the only reason that I don't

1181
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:53.119
believe that is because they had zero
information about the cloud Save update, which

1182
01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:55.560
is supposedly part of this. Yeah, I don't know, like to the

1183
01:16:55.640 --> 01:16:58.960
point like talking Patrick, to the
point of they had no information of how

1184
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:00.720
that would even work. Well,
they could very well cut that feature before

1185
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:02.760
it comes out. I mean that
would be a shame. I think this

1186
01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:05.079
update will definitely come out in the
fall, but yeah, this will be

1187
01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:11.000
out. Was that was? But
it doesn't have to be. I don't

1188
01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:13.199
know they've said it as they but
you know whatever. I mean, a

1189
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:16.079
company like Microsoft to state information like
that to the press, it must have

1190
01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:18.960
gone through you know, X number
of approvals and like they have to set

1191
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.039
that stuff in stone before they're going
to tell us about it. Yeah,

1192
01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:24.199
a little weird that they're not showing
it yet. It might just be a

1193
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:28.239
thing where you know, they're not
sure how much space they're gon exact user

1194
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:31.039
or the specific thing he said we
don't know about was how much space you're

1195
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:36.199
gonna like he cited He specifically cited
Fallout three and BioShock Saves and like he

1196
01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:41.239
was like, probably won't have all
your BioShock and fall Out because BioShock one

1197
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:44.560
saves and the Xbox or like eight
megapiece. Yeah, Fallouts I think are

1198
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:45.760
like two or three megapiece and you
can have like a hundred of those,

1199
01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:49.880
right, you know. The p
S three just gives you a raw one

1200
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:54.720
hundred and fifty uh cap. That's
one hundred and fifty megabytes, right,

1201
01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:57.680
that sounds right. I don't know, I do not know, So who

1202
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:00.000
knows if they'll can go for something
like I subscribe to Plus. I still

1203
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:01.560
I've never used the cloud stuff.
I turned it on and I turned on

1204
01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:05.319
all automatic updates and stuff like that, but I've never never see actually used

1205
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:10.920
it. Kick in it was the
avatar chat in there, like we're like,

1206
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:15.199
no, that's a connect fun laps
thing. Do you have to pay

1207
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:16.880
for it? Yeah? You know, I think maybe not that one.

1208
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:20.359
But maybe they didn't. They didn't
show how you're gonna see like your friends

1209
01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:24.760
river or whatever. You know,
like a little fucking avatar parade. I

1210
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:29.239
don't know how that's gonna work.
But honestly, my most exciting thing about

1211
01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:30.960
it to me was just how snappy
it was with controller, Like it was

1212
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:34.479
just it moves like the just the
cursor, highlights and stuff move lost that.

1213
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:39.800
Yeah, that's that's on a profile
that hasn't played six hundred games.

1214
01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:43.680
That has nothing to do with like
the speed of navigating everything to do with

1215
01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:47.000
list That's what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about moving a highlight around a

1216
01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:50.000
bunch of boxes on the screen,
like you can flip between pages as fast

1217
01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:53.479
as you can hit the buttons.
You can't do that now, no,

1218
01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:56.279
because they load in and everything.
Yeah, well I'm talking about just like

1219
01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.800
they animate, like they slide and
stuff like this one. They just it's

1220
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:04.600
so really fast. What is the
what's the new launched dashboards and they booted

1221
01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:06.880
up didn't show anything, so I'm
sure it's the same. That's what do

1222
01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:11.680
you think? Yeah, you don't
change that with every update. Doesn't it

1223
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.159
still do that? Like didn't think
a little guy, I don't know.

1224
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:18.800
Let me say that's VAM. What
sound does it make? Same? Sounds

1225
01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:23.119
of it are very very close to
the same sounds because they did their last

1226
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:27.479
big sound update with all the that's
the big ribbon thing that like, well

1227
01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:30.600
that's like the boot up, but
also like a lot of the you know,

1228
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.319
like dash like dashboard sounds changed with
that update as well. I want

1229
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:38.000
a better sound. I'm sick of
it, sick of it already. You

1230
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:40.920
just want you know what, They'll
just they'll rotate it back to the original

1231
01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:44.720
sound set and that will all seem
fucking brand. Just change the ribbon to

1232
01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:49.159
purple to signify the connectness of it
all. And I want Blades to go

1233
01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:53.640
back to the bleads. There's a
picture of the old Blades interface and the

1234
01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:57.600
story of the Patrick put up and
I looked at the remember that so so

1235
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.039
easy to load games? He's like
quick, but it was so easy to

1236
01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:04.560
load, you know, the disc
game, right. I don't think there

1237
01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:08.239
were any ads really during the Bleeds. Oh yeah, definitely, it was.

1238
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:13.039
I mean they have since made Yeah, there were way more of them

1239
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:15.920
now, but they probably just had
MPU sitting on the screen. It was

1240
01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:17.760
it was it felt we I don't
know, it felt weirder because it was

1241
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:21.000
just sort of it was shoehorned in
there. Like in the current setup.

1242
01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:24.600
It's like, no, we have
specifically made a lot of space here for

1243
01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:27.159
fucking ads, which sucks. And
you know, there's definitely way more about

1244
01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:29.800
this thing. This thing is still
rotten with ads. I'm not gonna lie

1245
01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:31.920
ye, but I can't think of
the single space that we were in that

1246
01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:35.159
had nothing but ads, Like that
spotlight channel on the current one, it's

1247
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:39.119
nothing but ads, and it's the
first thing you see every time you turn

1248
01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:42.479
a thing on. So at least
it's not that. But the big,

1249
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:45.760
the big center unit. I mean
basically the design is one giant center unit

1250
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:48.359
that rotates and then like two columns
on the side. I'm glad side columns

1251
01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:53.039
are where the stuff you want.
There's no specific connect man, that's yeah,

1252
01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:55.279
it's the same. But the big
fat box in the middle of every

1253
01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:59.079
page just seems to be here's more
stuff you could buy. Oh yeah,

1254
01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:01.199
totally what it is that's the focus. But like I said, it's so

1255
01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:04.079
much faster to zoom around that stuff. It's definitely one of the things I

1256
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:08.920
like about the XMB is like they
do have that kind of default option that

1257
01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:12.680
brings you to that like what's new
fake store page. But you can get

1258
01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:14.760
away from that. You can turn
that off. I mean, yeah,

1259
01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:16.800
my ship is set up at this
point where I barely see any of that

1260
01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:20.239
on the on my PS three.
Yeah you can. You can minimize it,

1261
01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:27.239
say that you like, you know
the Sheraton Gamer pictures. There's some

1262
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:30.720
Sheraton Gamer pictures set on just on
the p S three. No, that's

1263
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:33.000
on Xbox. Oh, I should
go get this because I actually love fucking,

1264
01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:39.880
really dumb sponsored I just I just
reset my mind pretty good to some

1265
01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:45.199
fucking onion blocks out back steakhouse appetizer. This sucks. I'll set it to

1266
01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:48.720
this. I've decided my favorite store
are the ones that aren't like a product

1267
01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:53.359
or like something like we've cut some
dudes face out of our ad campaign for

1268
01:21:53.439 --> 01:21:56.199
like it's fucking JK. Simmons because
State Farm, I like it when it's

1269
01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:59.720
just the logo, just the pure, unadulterated fucking like here's the State farm

1270
01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:02.039
lood go, here's the logo for
DeVry Universe. Over the weekend, I

1271
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:05.000
was looking at at what I had, and I was changing stuff, and

1272
01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:06.960
you know, for a while there
I was just downloading as many of the

1273
01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:11.680
stupid ones, and there was just
like a logo that says fucking hot pockets.

1274
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:14.800
I don't said it was just the
hot pockets great, and even barely

1275
01:22:14.920 --> 01:22:18.119
even read it because it's because it's
such a shitty, low quality image.

1276
01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:24.399
Like whoever like that content, the
company that sent that content, and no

1277
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:27.600
one at any point in that process
cared enough. I see, I do

1278
01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:30.479
still care. I still I like
if I like that that McDonald's one where

1279
01:22:30.479 --> 01:22:33.760
it's just the golden arches, it's
McDonald's underneath. It's nice and clean that

1280
01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:38.479
edges. Yeah, it was a
good image, good source image that they

1281
01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:44.000
cropped down, scaled correctly, and
a picture of a steak they got that

1282
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:47.239
now it's a free picture of a
fucking steak. I remember wanting to use

1283
01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:49.680
one of those, one of those
Tron legacy ones they put out, but

1284
01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:53.720
if you got up an eyeballd with
those things. Yeah, like the Disney

1285
01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:57.159
at like seventy seventies space that they
have to work with. They crammed a

1286
01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:00.239
copyright Disney in the bottom of that
thing. It's like, no shit,

1287
01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:03.720
what the fuck are you doing?
Idiots? Best gamer picture pack ever sponsored

1288
01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:08.239
by a company with the Burger King
ones. Yeah, those were those were

1289
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:10.920
really good. Yeah, the Burger
King ones were good. You like to

1290
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:13.800
the Mission Impossible ones, just like
here's a little ving rames for you.

1291
01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:16.640
Yep, they should give you.
Yeah, you know, the movie ones

1292
01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:19.279
can be funny, you know,
for as stupidest things are. We did

1293
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:24.479
just spend like five minutes talking about
that bullshit. Yeah we lose there really

1294
01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:29.000
supers and they are really they are
profoundly It's been more time than that,

1295
01:23:29.159 --> 01:23:31.960
like hunting around like every three months, four months or something. I'll just

1296
01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:34.960
get the bug and be like,
I gotta change my gamer picture where it's

1297
01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:40.479
the latest batch of really dumb free
sponsor gamer picture packs they put in mind

1298
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:44.680
a fucking yeah, change mind mine
now, just says TGS two thousand and

1299
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:48.079
six. I think I think I
still have my my TGS O six set

1300
01:23:48.159 --> 01:23:53.479
as well. That's a good one
good throwback I should do, like my

1301
01:23:53.800 --> 01:24:00.600
my Xbox Live five Xbox Alive is
five with the five spelled with five five

1302
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:08.119
five five IV. Yeah. So
yeah, in some ways I hate the

1303
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:12.920
advertising on the dashboard and ways I
hate the advertising on the dashboard in always,

1304
01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:18.319
but the way that they do promotions
on that console is so profoundly stupid

1305
01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:24.279
that it is occasionally funny. And
I had to stop downloading themes. I

1306
01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:29.399
used to like download all free themes
and gamer pictures, but I had to

1307
01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:34.000
had to reel it back. And
especially God, I wish, I wish

1308
01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:39.520
more than anything that they would upgrade
the interface for through which you change your

1309
01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:45.439
gamer pictures more than like a dozen
game pictures through five minutes. I mean

1310
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:48.520
those every update they push those things
further and further into the background to at

1311
01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:51.000
some point where it's like they're just
not going to exist anymore. I don't

1312
01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:55.079
even remember seeing a gamer picture right
in this new dashboard, yeah, I

1313
01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:58.000
mean you barely see them anywhere on
the current white might be in there somewhere,

1314
01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:01.720
I don't know, I don't know. It's still like the one consistent

1315
01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:05.600
like you pull up that you know, the the in game dash stuff like

1316
01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:12.640
that's the only signifier there. Like
when you go when you log into Xbox

1317
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:15.079
dot com, you're seeing those things
as kind of your your pride dot com.

1318
01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:19.399
Now you still see lots. My
phone has avatars on it now,

1319
01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:23.840
so way to go, got that
one too, this phone. It's just

1320
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.680
it's weird to think that we're sitting
here talking about the third significantly different version

1321
01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:29.840
of the interface of this thing.
Like the X and B has been what

1322
01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:33.000
it was basically since that console came
out. That's not necessarily a bad thing,

1323
01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:36.239
I mean because that in a lot
of ways, I think X ANDB

1324
01:25:36.359 --> 01:25:40.720
is still better than anything Microsoft has
come up with. X ANDB can get

1325
01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:44.079
to whatever you want real quick.
It's real fast. Yet like some of

1326
01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:46.720
what we're looking for where some of
the organization is really cluttered, like under

1327
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:50.680
the system stuff, there's yeah,
you know, I find it weird that

1328
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:56.840
they have broken out the Netflix app
out of that of like video into like

1329
01:25:56.960 --> 01:26:00.279
this TV and streaming. I'm like, oh, really it was when it

1330
01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:04.560
was over there next to like my
Personal and just you know, lets you

1331
01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:08.960
know that they're going to add more
of that. It's like they the HBO

1332
01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:12.600
is probably come in and they've already
got baseball and football. That's right,

1333
01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.399
that's true. There's hockey and there
a hockey one. There's enough stuff to

1334
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:16.720
put. I think the worst thing
like the XMB is if you ever have

1335
01:26:16.840 --> 01:26:20.279
to change system settings, that menu, the options they give you are just

1336
01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:26.119
so crazy where it's just like display
and it's like output, and like there's

1337
01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:28.720
like which one do you go in? Yeah, to change. Still,

1338
01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:30.800
it makes a shitload more sense than
any of the system like trying to trying

1339
01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:36.439
to muck through system stuff, like
the arcane magic of re downloading old content

1340
01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:42.600
that you've already bought of like knowing
how to get to the account settings screen

1341
01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:46.800
and on an Xbox it's it's it's
crazy. Oh yeah. And then if

1342
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:51.079
it's something that's super old, you're
like scrolling forever, like that Midway stuff

1343
01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:56.039
that is no longer available in the
store, like that's the only way to

1344
01:26:56.159 --> 01:26:58.479
get it. Oh God, you
know how hard it was to fund that

1345
01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:02.520
Holiday twenty eighth theme after my USB
thing died. God damn it. They

1346
01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:09.159
don't even list that anymore. That's
the best ever made. It's kind of

1347
01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:11.439
bottom line though, is that you
know, there's stuff that I'm looking for

1348
01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:16.760
on the Xbox. Yeah, sure, brand anything else you've playing Gun Stringer,

1349
01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:24.439
Gunstringer can talk. It's a weird
game. It's a weird game.

1350
01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:28.720
Jeff. You were having some issues
with some some functionalities. It's like my

1351
01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:33.520
right hand doesn't work. Yeah,
yeah, yes, we've discovered. Thanks

1352
01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:39.560
for bringing it up. Also,
I've just diagnosed you. Yeah. So

1353
01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:44.000
I did not play much of it
because I was running into responsiveness issues.

1354
01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:47.760
The left hand was pretty much fine. You know, you kind of move

1355
01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:50.840
your guy with your left hand and
then move the aiming radical with the right

1356
01:27:51.439 --> 01:27:57.159
and you paint targets and then have
to make like a gun pistol kickback motion

1357
01:27:57.279 --> 01:28:00.600
with your right hand to fire coil, Yes, like a recoil like I

1358
01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:06.640
shot this gun and now my wrist. But that wouldn't happen consistently. Uh

1359
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:10.760
So I was like jerking my hand
back as far as it would go,

1360
01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:15.399
and trying soft and trying hard and
all these different ways and nothing with any

1361
01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:17.159
Yeah, nothing with any sort of
consistency. I had to I had to

1362
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:19.479
start doing a broader emotion, not
at the wrist, but at the elbow.

1363
01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:23.000
Like yeah, that I was doing
the wrist up. It doesn't work

1364
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:25.640
so well. But when I was
doing like full ninety degrees with my elbow.

1365
01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:28.399
Then it I tried that was I
was doing that. So I tried

1366
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:30.439
a number of different setups. I
want to know what, like what your

1367
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:35.600
situation is like like in the in
the room with furniture and you like,

1368
01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:40.960
yeah, you room, your your
bed is No, I'm not even playing

1369
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:43.760
in that room. I have to
Connect on the living room. Okay,

1370
01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:45.600
so you're sitting on the big couch
there. I'm kind of standing to the

1371
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:48.600
side of the couch, which I
can play Dance Central there, I can

1372
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:55.439
play other connect games. They're just
fine. Yeah, that's like even sitting

1373
01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:59.800
on that on that couch there,
playing on that TV in the living room

1374
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:05.239
like that's good. Seven eight feet
there probably like that's that's good zone to

1375
01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:09.239
be in, should be. But
it just, yeah, just miserable.

1376
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:13.760
So I ended up playing basically like
the first little bit Fight Wavy two Man.

1377
01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:15.439
There's like five minutes in or something
like that after the tutorial, and

1378
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:18.640
I was like, I this just
doesn't work, Like I don't want to

1379
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:24.000
do this. Some some high grade
acting from the Twist Pixel crew in that

1380
01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:28.920
in that opening sequence, they're they're
little good fellas moments, the camera running

1381
01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:30.960
around the theater and everything. That
was pretty good, So I think my

1382
01:29:31.079 --> 01:29:33.520
issues. So when I first I
really wanted to see what all of like

1383
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:38.279
this, the sit down options were
like, because there's that's pretty rare for

1384
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:42.319
Connect games. That's it's not like
yo, stand the fuck up. In

1385
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:45.680
fact, it even says at one
point like hey, getting tired. Yea.

1386
01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:50.159
So first I tried it, like
with my big longs. The way

1387
01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:54.640
my couch is set a b U
shaped couch sitting at the end of it.

1388
01:29:55.119 --> 01:29:58.479
Coffee table goes in pretty much lengthwise, so I have like, you

1389
01:29:58.560 --> 01:30:01.239
know, six feet five and a
half feet of coffee table going out in

1390
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:05.079
front of me and then empty space
and then there's a TV. Uh.

1391
01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:10.119
It was not loving not being able
to see like basically my the lower half

1392
01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:15.720
of my body from behind the the
coffee table, even though you know it

1393
01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:17.439
was yeah it was, it was. It was not being terrific with that.

1394
01:30:17.680 --> 01:30:20.279
Couldn't pick up your whole skeleton.
So it was like, yeah,

1395
01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:24.520
what are you I don't know,
those are these things that are flaming about

1396
01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:29.479
your legs. If that's the case, you're playing Gunstringer incorrectly and also upside

1397
01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:32.560
down, so drag the coffee table
on the way, which is I didn't

1398
01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:34.800
have to that for all Connect games, so it's not not a big deal

1399
01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:40.279
really, But even then, I
feel like because that's a like I'm basically

1400
01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:43.840
at one end of that room and
then the Connect is at the other and

1401
01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:48.119
that's pushing probably like twelve feet of
space there. Yeah that's too far,

1402
01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:50.800
so I'm I mean, yeah,
so I so now I need to figure

1403
01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:54.680
out like, okay, I need
to have like a folding chair folding chair

1404
01:30:54.720 --> 01:30:57.880
so I could sit half the distance
up from there so I can get the

1405
01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:00.720
right uh you know, uh kind
of activity out of it. So I'm

1406
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:03.680
still still tinkering at that stuff.
But I got through several levels even with

1407
01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:08.640
being at a distance, and not
that that game gives you a lot of

1408
01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:11.640
slop, like as far as the
amount of the amount of hearts that it

1409
01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:15.119
gives you, that in the amount
of hits that you can take, although

1410
01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:16.079
Brad, I don't know if you
notice this, and a couple of the

1411
01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:21.720
most of the levels have I think
all the levels that I played have a

1412
01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:27.520
sequence where you're two gunning it where
it's no longer where motion is automatic and

1413
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:30.800
you're just like using both hands as
a as a pistol. Shooting is even

1414
01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:34.159
automatic. You're literally just pointing and
you're not even having to do like paint

1415
01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:39.720
and then activate. It's just constantly
dumping. Does that you pick up a

1416
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:45.000
taco and that happening just like Multipliers? Yeah, No, this is just

1417
01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:49.399
uh And I love the narrator during
this, the taco sequences. They give

1418
01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:53.199
it a lot of mileage, a
f stuff. Yeah, although I feel

1419
01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:57.520
like this is I don't know,
I really enjoy the opening sequence, like

1420
01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:02.520
the theater stuff, but this is
may be the most like twisted pixel putting

1421
01:32:02.600 --> 01:32:05.239
on a show vibe that I've gotten
out of. I mean, the tone

1422
01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:09.119
of the you know, the game
is quite literally you put it on.

1423
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:13.560
I mean, but I mean,
I guess there's there's something. There's something

1424
01:32:13.680 --> 01:32:17.720
way more amateur feeling about the FMV
stuff that they included here, because it's

1425
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:20.880
not like, well we were on
a green screen, we cut you out

1426
01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:24.159
and then just kind of put you
in a thing. Now it's like they're

1427
01:32:24.199 --> 01:32:27.399
on sets, so it's like they're
out in the world. It's twisted pixel

1428
01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:31.319
guys delivering lines. It's like them
doing comedy bits, just pure like in

1429
01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:36.880
the world, no false elements,
just walking down the hall and two guys

1430
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:41.640
delivering lines to each other. Like
it's yeah, I like that aspect of

1431
01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:45.520
it. I think it's it's it's
bold in a weird way because it really

1432
01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:48.439
is. Man. It like that. The FMV stuff has been their strength,

1433
01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:50.800
I think in a lot of their
previous games, and to like lean

1434
01:32:50.840 --> 01:32:55.960
into it this hard is super risky, but it feels the most like because

1435
01:32:55.960 --> 01:33:00.920
I've played a fair amount of you
know, mid nineties FMV games, you

1436
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:05.560
know, Sega c D stuff and
what have you, and this game feels

1437
01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:11.239
definitely the most like It's like,
you understand now why all those games were

1438
01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:14.680
the way they were. It just
the because everyone in them was a game

1439
01:33:14.960 --> 01:33:17.560
developer and not an actor. It's
it's the yeah, it's the not filmmakers

1440
01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:21.920
and not actors. But they can
still get the gear and you know,

1441
01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:26.199
integrated into their games so that you
know, then they can be warm bodies

1442
01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:30.079
in front of camera, right and
so, and that is what they provide.

1443
01:33:30.199 --> 01:33:32.800
It's warm bodies in front of the
camera. The intro, in particular,

1444
01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:36.439
the like video meta intro that leads
directly into three D stuff happening.

1445
01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:44.319
It really reminded more more than anything
of brutal legend lacking, which I thought

1446
01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:45.560
the record story. So yeah,
I say what you will about that game,

1447
01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:47.960
but I thought that the way that
intro flowed right into the game was

1448
01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:50.880
amazing. It was very cool.
That was very cool. This this works

1449
01:33:50.920 --> 01:33:54.279
pretty well in that in that same
vein, but not quite as well.

1450
01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:57.880
But it's yeah again, because it's
not Jack Black, it's Black as an

1451
01:33:57.920 --> 01:34:00.399
actor. The thing he can sell
it. Yeah, I don't know.

1452
01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:03.239
These guys did okay, but they're
plucky. I don't know. I actually

1453
01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:06.720
kind of prefer I think the way
that they are doing that stuff, they're

1454
01:34:08.159 --> 01:34:10.600
like if they went out, if
the alternative was they went out and hired

1455
01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:14.319
a bunch of actual actors to do
this like relatively awkward stuff, but it

1456
01:34:14.359 --> 01:34:16.079
wouldn't it wouldn't work at all.
And we know you're right about that.

1457
01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:19.359
It totally wouldn't work at all because
the whole appeal is that it is this

1458
01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:25.359
kind of you know, handmade like
well, yeah, like they will always

1459
01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:28.439
tell you they are totally transparent about
the fact that the first time they used

1460
01:34:28.479 --> 01:34:31.439
FMV was because they ran out of
money to do an actual ending for the

1461
01:34:31.520 --> 01:34:34.960
game. So well, we can
do this, we can cheap and fast,

1462
01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:38.920
cheap and fast, and we just
dumped this video file into the end

1463
01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:44.399
of the game and tadah. So
uh like that, that whole aesthetic pervades.

1464
01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:45.800
For sure. The best, the
best use I've seen a video so

1465
01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:48.199
far was I don't know if you
guys have seen any of the side scrolling

1466
01:34:48.279 --> 01:34:55.039
sequences. Yeah, there's one in
particular where the shot is from kind of

1467
01:34:55.079 --> 01:34:57.720
I don't know what the stage terminology
is, but it's the background of the

1468
01:34:57.840 --> 01:35:00.119
stage as if you were looking out
at the audience stage left kind of three

1469
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:04.319
quarters to the side. So you
see like dude is jumping and you're controlling

1470
01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:09.800
it and stuff, but you see
the theater audience, like the live theater

1471
01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:12.399
audience that shows up at the ends
of the levels or whatever. They are

1472
01:35:12.439 --> 01:35:15.560
the background, and they're scrolling as
the camera moves with them. You know,

1473
01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:17.640
there are foreground elements and you're jumping
over stuff and everything, and you

1474
01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:21.239
just see them like like cheering and
laughing and stuff in the background, and

1475
01:35:21.279 --> 01:35:27.079
they and they fade in and out
of kind of the like the theater kind

1476
01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:30.680
of concepts as levels progress, and
it will be kind of like weird little

1477
01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:34.399
stage resets, and there will be
moments where you're only seeing stuff in spotlights.

1478
01:35:34.439 --> 01:35:39.680
You'll just see the dude and you'll
just see like whatever some specific object

1479
01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:42.960
is. I think that's a really
cool idea for a game. I think

1480
01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:47.720
that the way that they have executed
that stuff is really awesome. Yea.

1481
01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:53.920
The part where I can't play it
is unfortunately, it's frustrating, And we

1482
01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:56.399
were having this conversation in the car, like I feel like we're still kind

1483
01:35:56.439 --> 01:36:00.720
of reviewing the hardware, like it's
it's kind of parton, like you can't

1484
01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:04.039
avoid it because it is like how
they're using it is still seems to be

1485
01:36:04.239 --> 01:36:08.479
it seems like everyone's still wrapping their
fucking heads around, like how is the

1486
01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:11.439
best way to make this thing detect
movement? What are the best you know,

1487
01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:13.960
what are the kinds of movements that
it is most suited to use?

1488
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:16.600
And how can we then turn that
into gameplay. When they brought up on

1489
01:36:16.720 --> 01:36:18.520
and we played on the green screen, was there, I mean was it

1490
01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:21.560
fine? There? Uh yeah,
so like that time, it was totally

1491
01:36:21.640 --> 01:36:26.319
smooth. When we've played it at
E three, which grants that's really controlled,

1492
01:36:26.439 --> 01:36:29.840
but you know, I played down
and we played it like Microsoft at

1493
01:36:29.840 --> 01:36:31.960
a preview event back one was still
a downloadable game like the first time we

1494
01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:34.159
played it, like you know,
it was. It was rough in a

1495
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:38.920
couple of spots because it wasn't a
finished game, but the responsiveness was like

1496
01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:45.039
it felt it felt better than it
did when I played the final Box game.

1497
01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:47.399
Yeah it worked, yeah and all
that. So I don't know,

1498
01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:51.560
Yeah, I guess that's the thing
is is is there's no real clear path

1499
01:36:51.640 --> 01:36:55.039
to here are the adjustments you need
to make to get this to work better.

1500
01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:59.079
Instead, it's just like, okay, it's your your right hand doesn't

1501
01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:02.079
work, so no, you're you're
you're right because it somewhere else. There

1502
01:37:02.119 --> 01:37:06.479
are so many crazy variables that it's
hard for I imagine on both ends.

1503
01:37:06.479 --> 01:37:12.279
Imagine it's hard for the developer to
know like the number of different situations that

1504
01:37:12.319 --> 01:37:14.439
this is going to be used in
and like what things are going to impact

1505
01:37:14.479 --> 01:37:15.159
it. It's hard for you to
know the other end, like, well,

1506
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:18.359
am I just doing this motion wrong? Is the lighting bad? Yeah?

1507
01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:20.920
Is this just how the game is? Like, like you know,

1508
01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:24.680
there needs to be something that's just
like you know, hey, this isn't

1509
01:37:24.680 --> 01:37:28.640
working out. I'm losing your hand
whatever, let's go into the tuner.

1510
01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:30.600
Let's figure this out. I'm not
gonna let you play this until we figure

1511
01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:33.159
we have a solution for this,
because I feel like right now, the

1512
01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:36.600
tuner does a very general broad like
yeah, all right, I see your

1513
01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:41.039
knees, understand here, standing here, thumbs up, You're ready to go,

1514
01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:43.920
and then you get back in the
game. But like the tuner,

1515
01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:47.479
you know that was developed in design
before I think a number of XDK updates

1516
01:37:47.560 --> 01:37:51.079
that have come out that have changed, you know, overall functionality of that

1517
01:37:51.359 --> 01:37:55.000
of that hardware. So yeah,
they should the tuner should have you do

1518
01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:57.600
motions like a game with like now
wave your right hand up and down.

1519
01:37:57.760 --> 01:38:00.760
Okay, I see, I'm gonna
lose you like right, let's you need

1520
01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:02.680
to get more light in here,
or like hey, buddy, move closer

1521
01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:05.800
and let's try this again. Because
otherwise it's just if they if they let

1522
01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:10.279
you have bad experiences playing the connect, it's just going to lead to this

1523
01:38:10.399 --> 01:38:14.319
conversation of like the Connect sect.
So it should even just bring you back

1524
01:38:14.359 --> 01:38:15.279
and like, we're not gonna let
you play this game until we figured it

1525
01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:17.600
out, right, and then once
you play the game, it's gonna be

1526
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:20.439
awesome. But when it works,
it's it's simple and fun. I like

1527
01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:27.000
the basic you know, I still
I still find myself making like the marionette

1528
01:38:27.039 --> 01:38:30.560
hand with my left hand and gun
hand with my right hand, even though

1529
01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:31.399
you don't have to. Even though
I don't have to, I guess I

1530
01:38:31.439 --> 01:38:35.720
feel weird or just like doing like
things or like fists or something like like,

1531
01:38:35.880 --> 01:38:39.039
Okay, at least, you know, if I have a little context,

1532
01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:43.359
this doesn't feel as stupid somehow.
Yeah, I agree, just hold

1533
01:38:43.399 --> 01:38:47.319
a gun. Gun here you go. No, you are the controller at

1534
01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:50.760
this case, where I probably could
hold a gun would work, all other

1535
01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:56.760
things being equal, like if connect
works perfectly, yeah, gigantic if Yeah,

1536
01:38:57.600 --> 01:39:00.359
there's definitely like pat your head,
rubb your stomach, can thing to

1537
01:39:00.520 --> 01:39:03.239
the gameplay. I only find that
actually I have no problem with like movement

1538
01:39:03.279 --> 01:39:06.479
with the left hand and you know, looking around and gunning with the right.

1539
01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:11.159
It's only when I have to do
the two guns for some reason,

1540
01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:14.039
two guns like I can't like.
And that's and and that's where I take

1541
01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:15.920
a bath. And that's when I
realized, oh, like this is actually

1542
01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:17.960
pretty forgiving and it's giving you plenty
of health to work with here, because

1543
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:23.319
each like it'll be like these Galaghas
style patterns. The number of like classic

1544
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:27.000
game references in that in the gun
Stringer are crazy, Like there's the there's

1545
01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:29.920
an early Donkey Kong sequence. I
think it's like first level, second level,

1546
01:39:31.039 --> 01:39:33.920
but yeah, like these these bird
sequences where all these crows are coming

1547
01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:38.960
at you in Galagha style patterns,
Like if you don't have one like locked

1548
01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:41.840
in, it's like a specific position
where you can just hold it. You

1549
01:39:41.920 --> 01:39:45.279
were just getting hit over and over
again by these birds and oh god,

1550
01:39:45.479 --> 01:39:47.199
I've got my right hand where I
need it to be, but not gonna

1551
01:39:47.239 --> 01:39:49.399
move my left hand around and then
I get off with my right hand and

1552
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:59.119
I'm just getting murdered by crows.
Yeah, tons of health. I want

1553
01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:02.199
to take a break. You want
to take a break. I kind of

1554
01:40:02.279 --> 01:40:04.880
want you to, Brad, to
get your thermon and humidity. I was

1555
01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:09.560
thinking about going again. It is
hot and wet and here and normally those

1556
01:40:09.680 --> 01:40:12.760
things I'm all with, these clothes
are going straight in the hay l.

1557
01:40:14.119 --> 01:40:16.239
Alright, alright, this is the
worst has ever been guys. I can't

1558
01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:19.520
stop. I can't stop until you
stop them planning all right, we'll be

1559
01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:54.159
back in a minute. More podcast. All right, guys, we're back

1560
01:40:55.399 --> 01:40:59.119
reconstituted. We've turned on the A
C. We've opened the door. It's

1561
01:40:59.199 --> 01:41:00.279
late enough that we can Yeah,
we can. We can do that.

1562
01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:03.720
Although it's not like that door really
holds any sound in or out, so

1563
01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:08.319
I guess it's kind of a I
can hear all the ghosts weird mood point.

1564
01:41:08.439 --> 01:41:17.359
Yeah, is that what that sound
was? Under? Tucker, So

1565
01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:26.880
slap on that again. Back in
that bad Dream, well, we talked

1566
01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:39.880
about some news. Capcom revealed alongside
Monster Hunter game for three DS that they

1567
01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:44.520
have this crazy bolton thing for the
three DS that gives it a right analog

1568
01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:47.680
stick, as well as I believe
two more shoulder buttons. It wasn't clear

1569
01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:50.159
if there was one more or two
more I think is what it was.

1570
01:41:50.239 --> 01:41:56.119
I'm not sure. Yeah, it'd
be weird either way. It's so that

1571
01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:59.600
led to a lot of speculation about
and as of this recording, we don't

1572
01:41:59.640 --> 01:42:03.920
know I either way, but a
lot of speculation about Nintendo before TGS,

1573
01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:08.560
the Tokyo Game Show, which is
happening this week in Tokyo, Japan.

1574
01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:11.720
By the time you hear this podcast, that stuff I believe they will have

1575
01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:15.439
had their events, so well,
I guess we should table this until next

1576
01:42:15.439 --> 01:42:18.720
week because we don't really know the
whole story, because like it kind of

1577
01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:23.680
like this conversation hinges on whether or
not the next Yeah, I full if

1578
01:42:23.800 --> 01:42:26.880
date if they do a hardware revision
to the three DS that adds that right

1579
01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:30.239
stick on their full time Yeah,
I hate everyone forever. Yeah, yeah,

1580
01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:35.479
I'm on you already do agreed,
forever agreed. But we don't know

1581
01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:38.199
if that's the case. We don't
know if this is just a one off,

1582
01:42:38.199 --> 01:42:40.640
weird thing for Capcom, which Nintendo
has done in the past, like

1583
01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:44.680
the Class Controller Pro was was sort
of an example of which then went on

1584
01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:47.760
to have an afterlife of like occasional
supportive like yeah, every once in a

1585
01:42:47.760 --> 01:42:50.600
while they kind of you know,
a game decides that sure, why not,

1586
01:42:51.279 --> 01:42:56.000
but you know, not never key, never critical to the experience,

1587
01:42:56.079 --> 01:42:59.439
right, Yeah, so yeah,
it's it's we don't we don't know at

1588
01:42:59.479 --> 01:43:01.880
this point what the deal is with
the with this right stick thing. But

1589
01:43:02.439 --> 01:43:06.520
it's none of this, None of
this really bodes well as far as I'm

1590
01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:11.560
concerned, Like, like this this
all just if it's just a one off

1591
01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:14.359
thing that they're making for this that
other developers could choose to use, but

1592
01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:16.800
probably never would because how many of
those will really get out their worldwide That

1593
01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:23.399
just seems fine, that's just then
then okay, but if this is like

1594
01:43:23.479 --> 01:43:26.880
the future for the system and they
are gonna try to split the user base

1595
01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:32.880
base exactly, so if they if
they choose, if they choose to further

1596
01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:36.600
hang all their early adopters out to
dry again. But now like two waves

1597
01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:40.760
of after yeah yeah, yeah,
the second wave of people that bought it

1598
01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:44.399
after this price cut, well really
three waves, because you have people who

1599
01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:48.840
genuinely bought it early CTF on this
thing, now, real real early adopters,

1600
01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:51.640
and then you have the people that
were like, hey, the you

1601
01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:55.479
know, price is gonna dropped in
if I want to get on the Ambassador

1602
01:43:55.479 --> 01:43:59.039
early adopters train, I gotta buy
it because what a sweet train that is.

1603
01:43:59.239 --> 01:44:00.680
September one, well, a lot
of places were dropping the price,

1604
01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:03.920
right, yeah, So it was
ended up getting both ways. Then it

1605
01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:08.199
was a deal. And then those
scambassadors who got the best of both worlds,

1606
01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:11.680
and then the people and the people
who took the price cut, like

1607
01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:15.880
that's you know, three distinct groups
of early adopters of you know, one

1608
01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:18.840
form or another getting what if they
bad? What if they send you out

1609
01:44:18.920 --> 01:44:24.479
a coupon for the problem is that
we it's yes, right analyic stick.

1610
01:44:24.479 --> 01:44:27.000
I don't know. Maybe that fixes
something, Maybe that's what it was missing.

1611
01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:30.199
I don't even know if the types
of three I think we can say,

1612
01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:34.600
goddamn games, give me a game, give me something I'm thinking about

1613
01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:38.159
buying, Start start Fox over here, for christ sakes, that's not what's

1614
01:44:38.159 --> 01:44:40.399
holding developers back. They're like,
oh, if only right stick, we

1615
01:44:40.439 --> 01:44:43.520
can make some games for it.
But if there's a bolt on third screen,

1616
01:44:44.279 --> 01:44:48.319
now you're talking, we finally good
on the three DS name it is

1617
01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:56.079
three dual screens and all in all
fairness, games games are coming, you

1618
01:44:56.159 --> 01:44:59.600
know, yeah, Mario we are
They calling it Annalynces for Mario three D.

1619
01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:02.680
Land think is the final title.
Even even even with the stuff they

1620
01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:06.000
announced at E three and and that
sort of stuff, it still doesn't feel

1621
01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:09.279
like enough to me. You're right, you're right, they need more third

1622
01:45:09.319 --> 01:45:12.119
parties stuff. Yeah, but where
where are the phoenix rights of this generation?

1623
01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:15.199
I mean, granted, it took
the DS a while to spin up

1624
01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:18.039
and get it to where it's at
but everything just feels so much more cutthroat

1625
01:45:18.079 --> 01:45:21.560
now and with them cutting the price
this early on, and now that this

1626
01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:26.239
add on stuff is is truly a
purveyor, Like, if this truly is

1627
01:45:26.319 --> 01:45:30.279
going to be a full and hardware
revision, then they're done man, like

1628
01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:34.960
that handhelds are done dead forever.
So here here's where here, here's hold

1629
01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:38.600
on it. Here's where I think
that they're not going to announce that,

1630
01:45:38.680 --> 01:45:44.319
because wouldn't you just hold Monster Hunter
and then say okay, here's the hardware

1631
01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:48.520
revision and announced you know, but
this is the like the solution for people

1632
01:45:48.560 --> 01:45:53.680
who have an old three DS.
This is the Okay, you can either

1633
01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:57.119
buy the new three DS, which
has the again we're speculating, we don't

1634
01:45:57.159 --> 01:46:00.399
know. Either you buy the new
three DS that has the rights to built

1635
01:46:00.399 --> 01:46:02.520
into it, or you can wait
for the hardware revision that comes with Monster

1636
01:46:02.640 --> 01:46:08.439
Hunt, this thing that has the
add on that you can plug your three

1637
01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:11.279
DS into. But I guess,
like, just like how you played Guitar

1638
01:46:11.399 --> 01:46:15.279
Hero on the DS. But but
my my issue, like the thing is

1639
01:46:15.359 --> 01:46:19.520
like the difference is that that thing
and usually any sort of like kind of

1640
01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:26.399
weird let's saying exotic peripherals like this
come much later in a system's life.

1641
01:46:26.960 --> 01:46:31.159
Typically you don't see crazy add ons
like this. I guess you know Zapper

1642
01:46:31.359 --> 01:46:40.119
and Rob the Robot being kind of
releases. Yeah, there were two Rob

1643
01:46:40.359 --> 01:46:43.079
games, and this is also a
third party as far as we know,

1644
01:46:43.279 --> 01:46:45.199
right, well, yeah it's it's
it's for a third party game, right,

1645
01:46:45.359 --> 01:46:49.359
but you know from here. Yeah, anyways, I want to table

1646
01:46:49.399 --> 01:46:54.199
this conversation until until next week,
until we have I just like, there

1647
01:46:54.239 --> 01:46:56.960
are a lot of different ways to
take this information with what's out there so

1648
01:46:57.079 --> 01:47:00.600
far, and none of them are
Yeah, that's DS is awesome, Everything's

1649
01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:06.079
fine. It's just different levels of
how dire is this situation is crazy because

1650
01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:11.800
it's like a little cradle. Yeah, it's not even it looks like when

1651
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:15.319
it looks like those crappy like we're
gonna put her joysticking buttons on your cell

1652
01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:19.880
phone, just strapping into this stupid
thing that you're never gonna have with you

1653
01:47:20.479 --> 01:47:26.000
video games. So it makes the
system like twice as big, twice as

1654
01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:29.479
big as maybe a bit of a
stretch. It looks about as big as

1655
01:47:29.560 --> 01:47:32.199
the cradle that I currently put my
three DS into the charge at home sow.

1656
01:47:32.520 --> 01:47:36.159
Oh they have to release new charging
cradles too. This whole thing's doom.

1657
01:47:36.359 --> 01:47:40.520
It doesn't it doesn't fit over the
third party batteries that people. I

1658
01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:43.680
hope you guys like playing video games
on TVs because that's the only place you

1659
01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:46.199
can play him now unless you've got
a cell phone, because all this,

1660
01:47:46.479 --> 01:47:49.159
all this stuff is dead. I
downloaded Angry Birds on my touchpad. What

1661
01:47:49.359 --> 01:47:53.720
why would you do that? What
else is he gonna do with this touchpad?

1662
01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:58.680
It's fair enough? How's the cost
there? Oh that's right on androids?

1663
01:47:58.880 --> 01:48:02.239
Yeah, but it's not Andrew put
it. Oh it's still I'll stake

1664
01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:05.039
it's still free. You got a
demo version, so it was it was

1665
01:48:05.119 --> 01:48:10.560
it just I guess they do ad
versions for free on the versions or whatever

1666
01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:15.279
Nintendo. Maybe maybe they just cut
the cord on the fucking webOS store and

1667
01:48:15.359 --> 01:48:18.920
just said, like the Wild West
you can. We ain't telling nobody.

1668
01:48:19.399 --> 01:48:23.439
Actually the actually sell other other stuff
in there is the Kindle app back up

1669
01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:26.479
or it wasn't this Okay, I
got it that got pulled when all this

1670
01:48:26.640 --> 01:48:28.960
happened, and I was like,
well, if they're just gonna like pull

1671
01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:31.600
apps out of it, it's back. But uh, I got I got

1672
01:48:31.680 --> 01:48:35.119
a thing that's basically so idea for
that thing. So I'm just downloading XML

1673
01:48:35.199 --> 01:48:41.520
feeds of all kinds of homebrew ships. Cool, yeah, you know whatever.

1674
01:48:41.720 --> 01:48:45.680
I feel like my position on handheld
gaming and it's future are we We've

1675
01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:51.720
mined this pretty well, but damn
son Yeah, I just wanted lot's just

1676
01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:57.279
this. I bet that they are. I bet that every everything that happens

1677
01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:00.960
like this, they are emboldened,
even for come out and kick their ass.

1678
01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:08.159
Yeah, they are putting on blinders
to the fucking smartphone inevitability future.

1679
01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:12.680
That's that's encroaching on everything, and
they're just looking at like the direct the

1680
01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:15.840
directest closest competitor is the three DS
that and we have been fighting Nintendo for

1681
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:20.439
years and and I'm pretty sure I
saw someone from Sony referencing the Vita and

1682
01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:28.039
using the term infrastructure mode. So
if they're still using the ad hoc infrastructure

1683
01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:32.239
mode, I know. But in
terms of like the way they're used in

1684
01:49:32.319 --> 01:49:39.239
a gaming context and the way that
like people think of like Wi Fi versus

1685
01:49:39.319 --> 01:49:41.800
local and all that sort of like
you just say, it's show us the

1686
01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:45.640
internet, or you know, it's
not the Internet. I think that those

1687
01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:48.760
terms carry and probably within Sony And
it doesn't sound weird just because of Japan,

1688
01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:51.439
because of the right way that stuff
gets played there. Yeah, because

1689
01:49:51.560 --> 01:49:58.119
ad Hawk is viable there because everyone's
playing Monster Hunter. I guess so on

1690
01:49:58.199 --> 01:50:02.560
their analo, I know it's the
one they're single analystic now for long.

1691
01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:12.479
We've got a meeting with Nintendo tomorrow
morning. Uh, and they wouldn't tell

1692
01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:16.319
us what it is. Big surprise. I don't know. I love but

1693
01:50:16.479 --> 01:50:20.399
a racing wheel to the three,
don't don't just just put it in the

1694
01:50:20.439 --> 01:50:27.720
cradle. Snap too, and it's
enough. On Pokemon Snap two, we've

1695
01:50:29.199 --> 01:50:31.399
reality and reality. I'm on Snap. I would be interested in playing that

1696
01:50:31.479 --> 01:50:35.199
game. Snap a picture of Mew
two like peeking around the corner of your

1697
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:39.239
desk. But that's basically what the
Polka x three D does. Is that

1698
01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:43.399
exact thing. But what if they
were like in your house, if you

1699
01:50:43.439 --> 01:50:46.560
had to chase you mean, no
track all safari? Yeah yeah wow,

1700
01:50:46.840 --> 01:50:51.079
yeah, less track more Safari to
the to the limits, as far as

1701
01:50:51.119 --> 01:50:56.880
you can go, so far as
you can go. Yeah, damn it,

1702
01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:03.279
God, damn it. EA finally
announced syndicates. Yea, we knew

1703
01:51:03.439 --> 01:51:09.000
that that Starbreeze is making a syndicate
game for EA since the late eighties,

1704
01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:13.399
yeah, says before the first Syndy
that came out. Yeah, yeah,

1705
01:51:14.680 --> 01:51:19.119
all those other games, especially for
this game. Remember it was the last

1706
01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:26.359
game that Fred Savage played in The
Wizard was the syndicate game. I don't

1707
01:51:26.359 --> 01:51:28.479
know what to say about this.
It looks it kind of looks a lot

1708
01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:31.439
like D s X. There's some
there's I mean, it's future cyberpunk,

1709
01:51:31.840 --> 01:51:35.640
cyber drugs, cyber drugs. They
didn't really talk about the drugs any It's

1710
01:51:35.800 --> 01:51:41.079
about chipping play, start hacking,
hacking, and slowing down time. Yeah,

1711
01:51:41.079 --> 01:51:45.159
because bullet time is real fresh.
It's pretty dope. Slow stuff down.

1712
01:51:45.199 --> 01:51:47.000
It's like you're still fast box treatment
thing that they put out. That

1713
01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:51.560
stuff looks cool to me, but
I don't know, we'll see what that

1714
01:51:51.680 --> 01:51:56.159
is. Yeah, it's crazy that
that's coming out in early twenty twelve,

1715
01:51:56.199 --> 01:52:00.439
that they just announced it just announced
September twenty eleven. That that that to

1716
01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:04.800
me says that this game has been
on the precipice of getting canceled for probably

1717
01:52:04.920 --> 01:52:10.760
a year. Yeah, it probably
even got canceled once or twice or rebooted

1718
01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:15.079
or whatever. I wouldn't be surprised. So yeah, anyway that happened,

1719
01:52:16.520 --> 01:52:19.680
I'm not like outraged like some people
seem to be that it's not a strategy

1720
01:52:19.760 --> 01:52:23.640
game, because like looking like,
dude, come up on eleven, y'all

1721
01:52:24.119 --> 01:52:27.800
you go, and you go and
look at at screenshots of even hurt so

1722
01:52:27.840 --> 01:52:30.520
many times you should you should have
seen this coming, Like what did you

1723
01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:32.840
really think it was going to be
when all these rumors were flying around,

1724
01:52:33.159 --> 01:52:35.520
Like do you think it was not
going to be first person? The rumors

1725
01:52:35.600 --> 01:52:42.159
had first person shooter attached to it, said Starburies, developer that has made

1726
01:52:42.479 --> 01:52:45.640
only first person There's been so much
turn over there that this is barely even

1727
01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:50.600
them. But I even still just
like culture of that developer, and yeah,

1728
01:52:50.720 --> 01:52:53.319
like look at look at the riding
on the wall. Come on,

1729
01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:57.239
don't be I mean they were.
Yeah, it's unfortunate that no one is

1730
01:52:57.239 --> 01:53:00.479
going out and making the honest,
true, spiritual real Equel to Syndicate just

1731
01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:03.479
like that hasn't been announced for Xcom
or anything like that. Like, yeah,

1732
01:53:03.560 --> 01:53:08.119
I would like to play more games
like that, for sure, but

1733
01:53:08.279 --> 01:53:11.039
that's not like, but that doesn't
mean that I don't like action games.

1734
01:53:11.319 --> 01:53:14.800
So and also I feel like that, you know, that's not if you're

1735
01:53:14.880 --> 01:53:19.039
if you're going to reboot a franchise
like that making your your strategy somehow,

1736
01:53:19.119 --> 01:53:25.000
retaining a perspective or mechanics or whatever. I just like the way that your

1737
01:53:25.079 --> 01:53:29.199
dudes would skitter all crazy around and
be running all fast and like that's French

1738
01:53:29.279 --> 01:53:31.960
coats would flip up, and that's
like, that's kind of down civilians for

1739
01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:34.800
no good reason. It's kind of
a downloadable game, like at this day

1740
01:53:34.840 --> 01:53:39.279
and age, like if you're not
going like big budget first person shooter,

1741
01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:43.039
like that's the justification to put you
on a disk, right, you put

1742
01:53:43.079 --> 01:53:45.920
that game out as a download,
and you know it's either you know,

1743
01:53:45.039 --> 01:53:48.520
are you gonna make this into a
big franchise or a couple of down little

1744
01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:54.039
games. So what you just said
depresses me in a weird way. And

1745
01:53:55.079 --> 01:53:58.439
I'm not thrilled about it. Man, I'm not trying to craft the future

1746
01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:01.560
here somehow, but like that's kind
of the way. Let's talk about some

1747
01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:05.640
new releases for this week. We've
got games coming out. Yeah, White

1748
01:54:05.680 --> 01:54:11.359
Knight Chronicles two for the PlayStation three. Thank you d three bringing that onto

1749
01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:16.359
the States. Because Sony said,
we're cool. HL twelve for Xbox three

1750
01:54:16.439 --> 01:54:19.239
sixty and PlayStation three. What was
that? What was that weird thing with

1751
01:54:19.279 --> 01:54:23.840
White Night two about having to have
done something to be able to play it

1752
01:54:24.199 --> 01:54:27.279
or something like that, you have
to have done something in the first game

1753
01:54:27.359 --> 01:54:30.720
or something that can't That can't be
the case. I do remember hearing something.

1754
01:54:30.840 --> 01:54:34.279
Yeah, maybe they'll be. I
don't know. Guns Stringer for Xbox

1755
01:54:34.359 --> 01:54:40.359
three sixty and Connect Bit Trips Saga
for the three DS, and Bit Trip

1756
01:54:40.479 --> 01:54:45.960
Complete for the Nintendo we I guess
those are slightly different packaging of the existing

1757
01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:50.039
Bit Trip games that have been released
on six There's all We Wear, yes,

1758
01:54:50.920 --> 01:54:54.640
and two of them came out on
Steam, but I can't remember which

1759
01:54:54.720 --> 01:55:00.479
two Runner and Runner that's three D
S game. I never played any of

1760
01:55:00.479 --> 01:55:03.039
those. I think I'm gonna get
three DS one because some of those are

1761
01:55:03.079 --> 01:55:05.279
first style, looks like it would
play in three D. Really. Some

1762
01:55:05.359 --> 01:55:08.800
of those are awesome, and some
of those have some great sound to them.

1763
01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:11.560
Yeah, yeah, some of those
don't last. Some of those you

1764
01:55:11.680 --> 01:55:14.319
like, you play it for one
round until you die and go like,

1765
01:55:14.399 --> 01:55:16.960
yeah, I gotta get it.
It's a trifle. It can be But

1766
01:55:17.079 --> 01:55:20.199
yeah, that's that's maybe a good
three DS pick up the saga of Commander

1767
01:55:20.279 --> 01:55:24.720
Video Must be told. I like
the name, I like Commander Video Interview.

1768
01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:28.439
I like his giant tall head,
but I feel like his best appearance

1769
01:55:28.479 --> 01:55:33.000
wasn't super meat Boy. Yeah,
that was pretty good. Nicktoons MLB.

1770
01:55:33.680 --> 01:55:39.039
Finally the two licenses coming together that
you've been waiting for. So I'm waiting

1771
01:55:39.119 --> 01:55:41.680
at the three. We're waiting in
the back of the two K area.

1772
01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:45.319
They got like their weird fake bar
set up back there, so me and

1773
01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:48.640
Drew were just like sitting at a
table waiting, uh, waiting the interview

1774
01:55:48.680 --> 01:55:55.239
Ken waiting for death and uh on
a TV. Back there, they just

1775
01:55:55.279 --> 01:55:58.159
have Nicktoons MLB running. I'm looking
at this thing like I hadn't heard about

1776
01:55:58.159 --> 01:56:00.479
it before. I'm looking at track
trying to figure out what it is.

1777
01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:01.640
I'm like, okay, wait a
minute, those are base those are actual

1778
01:56:01.720 --> 01:56:10.600
real baseball players. And then SpongeBob
square Pants like this, and I didn't

1779
01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:13.399
realize there was that crossover. This
is like the last day of E three.

1780
01:56:13.840 --> 01:56:16.000
It's kind of been a week.
Yeah, I'm just looking at it

1781
01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:20.319
like trying to figure out if it's
really happening, Like, am I confusing

1782
01:56:20.520 --> 01:56:24.399
myself? Am I looking at the
wrong? Is this actual gameplay? Is

1783
01:56:24.439 --> 01:56:28.720
this a trailer? And then clearly
this wouldn't be in the game. I

1784
01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:31.239
looked it up later. I'm pretty
sure that's what that is. That's real,

1785
01:56:31.680 --> 01:56:36.439
that's real, and that's coming to
the three sixty, the we and

1786
01:56:36.720 --> 01:56:44.640
the DS what like not PS three
not that I saw, all right,

1787
01:56:44.680 --> 01:56:47.239
I looked around. I didn't see
it there. That's just the one system

1788
01:56:47.279 --> 01:56:54.039
with the crazy hardcore at LB stuff, right, that seems weird. Oh

1789
01:56:54.119 --> 01:56:58.680
maybe may cover all platforms that don't
have MLB already covered. I don't know.

1790
01:56:58.880 --> 01:57:00.319
Maybe, I mean two K whole
is the MLB license, that's why

1791
01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:03.640
they're That's why they're doing that.
Yeah, but no, I get that

1792
01:57:04.199 --> 01:57:10.640
anyway. Uh got a War Origins
collection for the PlayStation three. That's those

1793
01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:15.319
two PSP games that already at Dawn
made and uh put a quick look at

1794
01:57:15.399 --> 01:57:21.680
of those and that second one,
uh not Chains of Olympus, but god

1795
01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:27.920
here Ghost of Sparta, Ghost of
Sparta. Uh shit looks good. They

1796
01:57:27.960 --> 01:57:31.479
did. Like it's not got a
War three but not not too not too

1797
01:57:31.520 --> 01:57:34.760
f and shabby, and it still
plays pretty well, so if you if

1798
01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:38.720
you're all I love God of War, but I don't have PSP check this

1799
01:57:38.800 --> 01:57:45.119
out XBLA Radiant Silver Gun. Yeah, finally coming out. I don't know

1800
01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:47.680
I've ever played Radiant Silver Gun.
It's okay, wait, this is that

1801
01:57:47.720 --> 01:57:49.560
the one that has a lot of
like create It's it's you know, two

1802
01:57:49.640 --> 01:57:54.239
D shooter side scrolling, but it's
got a lot of crazy perspective changes top

1803
01:57:55.319 --> 01:57:57.920
down. Okay, I have fucking
no idea what this is. Basically the

1804
01:57:57.960 --> 01:58:01.359
original Ikaruga Ikaruga was, so they've
added some kind of icaruga scoring mode to

1805
01:58:01.439 --> 01:58:05.520
this version. Also goes a bonus. What do you think is gonna happen

1806
01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:10.119
to the street value of Saturn import
copies of this game? I bet they'll

1807
01:58:10.159 --> 01:58:14.159
they'll take some kind of hit.
But you know, I feel like that's

1808
01:58:14.159 --> 01:58:16.039
an artificial price at this point,
because I think anyone who really would want

1809
01:58:16.199 --> 01:58:20.079
Radiant Silver Gun and be willing to
play those prices already has one. You

1810
01:58:20.119 --> 01:58:24.800
know, They're not impossible to find, sure, and that's just for collectors,

1811
01:58:24.880 --> 01:58:27.079
Like if you just want to play
it, right, yeah, yeah,

1812
01:58:27.159 --> 01:58:30.159
get your hands on it and some
other fashion. I never thought that

1813
01:58:30.199 --> 01:58:33.840
game was all that great. I
told Milky here you say that I might

1814
01:58:33.880 --> 01:58:38.760
have even told him that. And
on PlayStation Network from Dust comes out this

1815
01:58:38.840 --> 01:58:51.640
week, and Ferrari the Race Experience
from You Drive Ferraris. I gather that's

1816
01:58:51.680 --> 01:58:58.920
just for nernces. Thank you guys. I think Penguins and Madagascar is coming

1817
01:58:58.920 --> 01:59:00.079
out this week. Off. Yeah, there's totally a bunch of other ones

1818
01:59:00.119 --> 01:59:03.920
that I am not right. Yeah, yeah, there's Emily Strange Strangers four

1819
01:59:04.279 --> 01:59:11.560
three for the Nints. Is that
Red Orchestra two two's coming out this week?

1820
01:59:11.640 --> 01:59:15.319
There's that? Actually that actually merit's
mentioning. I forgot that one.

1821
01:59:15.359 --> 01:59:18.159
That one got past me, but
I think that's because that's it's digital only

1822
01:59:18.239 --> 01:59:23.079
release. So get get your steam
on for I don't know, some sort

1823
01:59:23.079 --> 01:59:30.279
of World War two you shoot men
as Drew about it? Brad, you

1824
01:59:30.319 --> 01:59:33.960
want to you want to take us
home here talking. We are going to

1825
01:59:34.039 --> 01:59:40.359
talk about some emails. UH bomb
cast at giant bomb dot com is the

1826
01:59:40.399 --> 01:59:46.640
email address. First email comes in
from Jordan in I don't know where Jordan's

1827
01:59:46.720 --> 01:59:51.319
from. Jordan, Uh, Jordan
from Jordan. I noticed that you guys

1828
01:59:51.359 --> 01:59:55.279
talk about the connect Way more than
you talk about the move, not counting

1829
01:59:55.319 --> 01:59:58.319
the sales numbers, would you consider
the Connect more of a success than the

1830
01:59:58.399 --> 02:00:00.920
Move by the sheer fact that people
are still talking about it, even considering

1831
02:00:00.960 --> 02:00:09.720
the lack of games and support by
Microsoft. It did, I guess with

1832
02:00:09.840 --> 02:00:14.000
faint praise considering most of the time
the Connect comes up, it's in the

1833
02:00:14.039 --> 02:00:17.000
context of, like, yeah,
that fucking thing with the Move. At

1834
02:00:17.039 --> 02:00:21.239
least there's YO have Sebastian Jazz.
It's weird. Arguably the move is hot.

1835
02:00:21.560 --> 02:00:25.760
I've had more fun with the move. Yeah, like like I like

1836
02:00:25.880 --> 02:00:29.800
lately like it's it's it's what's weird
that I personally think the Move is a

1837
02:00:29.920 --> 02:00:33.479
better product, and that somehow because
of that, the Connect warrants more discussion,

1838
02:00:33.640 --> 02:00:38.840
if that makes sense. Yeah,
I think I haven't seen The thing

1839
02:00:38.920 --> 02:00:42.359
is that I haven't seen any application
of the move. I feel like they've

1840
02:00:42.399 --> 02:00:45.279
been applying the move controls to like
their first person shooters and stuff like so

1841
02:00:45.399 --> 02:00:49.520
common. It's it's kind of nice
in a way that the games that you

1842
02:00:49.640 --> 02:00:55.479
know that matter on that platform are
supporting this peripheral but not in any way

1843
02:00:55.520 --> 02:00:58.399
that I would want to play them. So it's more to the point when

1844
02:00:58.439 --> 02:01:00.880
we're talking about those games. We're
just talking about those games. We're not

1845
02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:02.640
talking about the move support in games
that we play, like, we're not

1846
02:01:02.720 --> 02:01:06.399
talking about the three those support in
those games exactly. I mean, whereas

1847
02:01:06.439 --> 02:01:11.920
were Connect games are Connect games and
that's exclusively Yeah, so of course if

1848
02:01:11.960 --> 02:01:14.239
we're gonna play those games, it's
on the connect. For me, the

1849
02:01:14.319 --> 02:01:15.760
move is kind of a known quantity, like I kind of know what it

1850
02:01:15.840 --> 02:01:19.760
does and how it works. Yeah, it does, but it's not being

1851
02:01:19.800 --> 02:01:24.119
applied in any sort of interesting ways. No. Well no, but like

1852
02:01:24.520 --> 02:01:27.239
I's still know when they apply it, it's like usually it works pretty well.

1853
02:01:27.720 --> 02:01:29.760
It's like, hey, you're gonna
be doing this with the move,

1854
02:01:29.760 --> 02:01:30.439
and it's like, okay, I
kind of just don't want to do that,

1855
02:01:30.479 --> 02:01:31.960
but it's gonna work. I Mean, the problem is that I,

1856
02:01:32.159 --> 02:01:38.359
like I don't want a like dual
analog stick replacement. And that's kind of

1857
02:01:38.439 --> 02:01:42.600
what usually the move gets used for, is like in lieu of having a

1858
02:01:42.760 --> 02:01:45.279
right analog stick, wave this thing
around, like and if you want to

1859
02:01:45.279 --> 02:01:46.560
strap it into a big plastic gun, we'll let you do that too,

1860
02:01:46.800 --> 02:01:50.319
sure. And you know, there's
plenty of Connect games that you know kind

1861
02:01:50.359 --> 02:01:53.920
of try and get away with that
as well, and that's no better there,

1862
02:01:54.159 --> 02:01:57.920
but like you know that dead Space
was an extraction that was pretty good.

1863
02:01:57.960 --> 02:01:59.520
It was you know, it was
a like them game with the with

1864
02:01:59.600 --> 02:02:01.720
the move controllers, but like with
that was I mean it was an updated

1865
02:02:01.800 --> 02:02:04.880
version of a week game. Yeah, but like it worked, it worked

1866
02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:08.119
really well. And like when I
feel like with the Connect, the reason

1867
02:02:08.199 --> 02:02:12.840
that I talk about it is I
have yet to see that thing like meet

1868
02:02:12.920 --> 02:02:16.319
the expectations that Microsoft put out there
for the Connect, and like every time

1869
02:02:16.399 --> 02:02:18.880
we talk about like did it work, that's what I want to know.

1870
02:02:19.039 --> 02:02:23.439
Ye, Like basically I don't I
don't ask if the connect or the move

1871
02:02:23.479 --> 02:02:26.479
works because usually it does. It's
like was the game any good? And

1872
02:02:26.560 --> 02:02:30.840
it's like did it work? And
it's like and the only time I've heard

1873
02:02:30.880 --> 02:02:34.880
it be pretty good is Dance Central
yep uh, and Child of Eden didn't

1874
02:02:34.880 --> 02:02:38.920
seem to have problems, And then
you could start talking about the game in

1875
02:02:39.039 --> 02:02:42.399
terms of like, well it's Dance
Central good. Yeah. The other conversation,

1876
02:02:42.479 --> 02:02:45.239
like the move conversation that yeah,
you don't have a technical issue to

1877
02:02:45.239 --> 02:02:47.439
get past, But then there's also
nothing to talk about because there's not a

1878
02:02:48.479 --> 02:02:51.680
so that's so critical. That's like
we need to talk about this move experience

1879
02:02:51.720 --> 02:02:54.199
that we had. Yeah, I
still feel like, you know, the

1880
02:02:54.359 --> 02:03:00.000
the prime examples of like move only
games and and and that's is like some

1881
02:03:00.039 --> 02:03:02.960
of the downloadable stuff they put out
around launching and horse Champions like those are

1882
02:03:03.000 --> 02:03:06.319
still the Yeah, there's not a
lot going on there. For better or

1883
02:03:06.399 --> 02:03:09.439
worse. I don't know. I
don't know. I asolutely for the worst

1884
02:03:09.439 --> 02:03:11.760
because that thing, I mean,
the precision on that thing is so high.

1885
02:03:11.920 --> 02:03:14.079
But I don't know so well,
I don't know if they're I think

1886
02:03:14.119 --> 02:03:15.840
they just put it out in the
wake of people going like, I think

1887
02:03:15.920 --> 02:03:19.560
we're done with this style of control
scheme the weave. Hey cool, but

1888
02:03:20.199 --> 02:03:25.920
because like and there's no more like
easy secondhand third party ports, there is

1889
02:03:25.960 --> 02:03:29.840
no more dead space extraction. You're
definitely right, that's done. And also

1890
02:03:30.000 --> 02:03:32.880
there to Ryan's point, they're not
being overly ambitious with the move, But

1891
02:03:32.960 --> 02:03:36.319
then again, they're not failing to
meet those expectations. It's not like they're

1892
02:03:36.359 --> 02:03:38.880
like, hey, check out this
game you can do with the move.

1893
02:03:38.960 --> 02:03:41.199
You'll be able to, you know, twirl around and do all this stuff

1894
02:03:41.399 --> 02:03:44.560
like I can't. It doesn't work
like it's I can't do that with it,

1895
02:03:44.800 --> 02:03:46.439
And I'm trying to think of like
upcoming move games, and I think,

1896
02:03:46.560 --> 02:03:48.840
like, great job, Jeremy is
the only one, right, Like,

1897
02:03:49.560 --> 02:03:54.600
uhn't all for one? Isn't that
a move game? No, there's

1898
02:03:54.640 --> 02:03:58.880
definitely stuff at the there's maybe not
maybe maybe optionally I played it without what

1899
02:03:58.920 --> 02:04:00.720
you're talking about, just like pure
move games. Yeah, I don't care.

1900
02:04:00.720 --> 02:04:05.279
I think there was stuff at the
press conference they were showing like NBA

1901
02:04:05.600 --> 02:04:09.640
was had. Oh yeah, they
did put move support and support and that,

1902
02:04:09.720 --> 02:04:13.359
like there's games. I think there's
support. But again it's it's I

1903
02:04:13.439 --> 02:04:16.520
don't it's games. You're already perfectly. I wouldn't I would have a controller.

1904
02:04:16.560 --> 02:04:20.600
I would rather use my regular controller. Yeah, but and there's never

1905
02:04:20.760 --> 02:04:25.119
i've you know, again, to
back up Jeff's point, other than some

1906
02:04:25.279 --> 02:04:29.000
launch downloadable stuff, there's never been
a move game where I'm like, yeah,

1907
02:04:29.000 --> 02:04:32.119
I would rather use the move controller
than just my dual Shock. But

1908
02:04:32.239 --> 02:04:35.279
I've yet I'd have not I did. For the few move games I have

1909
02:04:35.439 --> 02:04:40.640
played, I've been completely satisfied with
the experience, and for the games I've

1910
02:04:40.640 --> 02:04:45.920
played on Connect, I have been
disappointed and like frustrated and like I feel

1911
02:04:45.960 --> 02:04:49.199
like so in terms of my experience, would both, I would say I've

1912
02:04:49.359 --> 02:04:54.039
enjoyed. I think the move is
a more successful product. I've used the

1913
02:04:54.039 --> 02:04:57.720
Connect more, like even even if
not for games, just for interface stuff

1914
02:04:57.760 --> 02:05:01.000
on the dash, like some of
the void activation stuff. I think all

1915
02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:06.119
of your points are totally valid,
and I'm still frustrated by the lack of

1916
02:05:08.720 --> 02:05:13.840
you know, Microsoft has a similar
issue as as Nintendo does. If they

1917
02:05:13.880 --> 02:05:15.840
need to, you know, crank
out some fucking games. They're getting better,

1918
02:05:15.960 --> 02:05:18.640
They're putting out more games, They're
still not great most of the time.

1919
02:05:18.760 --> 02:05:20.640
Like at this point, when I
boot up my three sixty, I

1920
02:05:20.640 --> 02:05:24.479
almost wish I could tell it not
to calibrate the video and the Connect because

1921
02:05:24.479 --> 02:05:26.039
I'm not going to use it.
I just want the speed. I just

1922
02:05:26.079 --> 02:05:29.800
want the microphone. I don't need
the two minutes of it going bows at

1923
02:05:29.840 --> 02:05:31.760
you like that a bows at me. It takes too long. But hello,

1924
02:05:31.880 --> 02:05:36.680
sir, unplugged it. You plugged
it back in for the ghost Ringer.

1925
02:05:36.720 --> 02:05:41.039
But before that, I don't have
it hooked up to my primary Xbox,

1926
02:05:41.199 --> 02:05:45.479
so I only see it when I'm
specifically going to play Connect games and

1927
02:05:45.560 --> 02:05:50.279
you're connect theater. Yes, both
need work. Connect needs to be more

1928
02:05:50.359 --> 02:05:57.319
consistent, like yeah, but if
they both went away tomorrow, it wouldn't

1929
02:05:57.359 --> 02:06:00.399
necessarily be the end of the world. I would like voice recognition and built

1930
02:06:00.439 --> 02:06:03.960
into the next console. That's about
as far as I'd go. I wouldn't

1931
02:06:04.000 --> 02:06:08.760
mind if games got that right at
some point where you could like talk to

1932
02:06:08.840 --> 02:06:12.760
it. There are still moments with
connect where when it does something, it's

1933
02:06:12.800 --> 02:06:16.920
fucking the future, and I've never
had that experience with the move. Basically,

1934
02:06:17.000 --> 02:06:19.640
just don't replace it my controller yet. If I can use my controller

1935
02:06:19.680 --> 02:06:25.079
and talk to you, that's fine. That's an added So that's great.

1936
02:06:25.840 --> 02:06:27.960
The minute you're like, hey,
now wave your hand and that's gonna be

1937
02:06:27.960 --> 02:06:30.720
your controller, that's like, No, the controller was good. But if

1938
02:06:30.720 --> 02:06:32.600
you want to like the mass effect, thing is going to be you saying

1939
02:06:32.680 --> 02:06:38.199
the line of dialogue, and then
it's saying the line of dialogue again after

1940
02:06:38.239 --> 02:06:42.600
you select That doesn't I'm not saying
that that is That is my yeah,

1941
02:06:43.039 --> 02:06:45.560
dream, but I don't know whatever. If I could say it a lot

1942
02:06:45.600 --> 02:06:47.840
of dialogue, I have to say
it all high pitched because I play as

1943
02:06:47.840 --> 02:06:50.680
a fem sheeps no, you won't
because you'll say it, but then she

1944
02:06:50.800 --> 02:06:56.199
will immediately say it afterwards because it
doesn't. It needs to replace that,

1945
02:06:56.760 --> 02:06:59.800
like it needs to be all of
a sudden like Shepherd no longer speaks.

1946
02:07:00.359 --> 02:07:01.560
You have to read the lines,
and if you don't read them aloud,

1947
02:07:01.840 --> 02:07:05.920
eventually you get shot. If they're
just like I would, I would,

1948
02:07:06.880 --> 02:07:10.800
Yeah, I would totally read all
of the lines of dialogues. Yeah,

1949
02:07:10.800 --> 02:07:14.039
I would totally. It would be
great if they were like if they was

1950
02:07:14.079 --> 02:07:15.760
built in instead of like the Xbox
being like, sorry, you didn't hear

1951
02:07:15.800 --> 02:07:18.279
you. If it was the character
would just like what did you try to

1952
02:07:18.359 --> 02:07:23.920
say? I just I just said
Rex. That's something I would come over

1953
02:07:24.000 --> 02:07:26.560
to your house and watch you play
through Best Factory. It would be so

1954
02:07:26.680 --> 02:07:30.039
much fun, just like get the
US Star technology in there while you're at

1955
02:07:30.079 --> 02:07:32.079
it, cut me out. But
the thing is that they give you those

1956
02:07:32.119 --> 02:07:38.239
paraphrases of like what they're actually supposed
to say, but yes I'm saying is

1957
02:07:38.720 --> 02:07:44.439
change that? Yeah, that'd be
funny, you know, a little bring

1958
02:07:44.479 --> 02:07:46.680
a little play acting into it.
Why not like get into the character something,

1959
02:07:46.720 --> 02:07:49.640
get into the mass effect mood of
things, and then if you break

1960
02:07:49.760 --> 02:07:54.359
character, it just stops and goes
like, come on, man, it's

1961
02:07:54.399 --> 02:07:56.840
like every everyone else on the screen, just like it was like I'll be

1962
02:07:56.920 --> 02:08:00.920
in my trailer right. The camera
kind of jostles it. It's like boom

1963
02:08:00.960 --> 02:08:05.680
dips into the shop. Amateurs here, we got a reset. All right,

1964
02:08:05.720 --> 02:08:11.119
everyone back in five minutes. Just
dude takes his mask off. So

1965
02:08:11.239 --> 02:08:16.680
we're hot in here, Spherd see
how that comes off? Just rexus Now,

1966
02:08:16.399 --> 02:08:18.960
yes, it's that guy having a
cigarette with just like the little raccoon

1967
02:08:20.079 --> 02:08:24.399
makeup mask. Are you ready?
Are you gonna do this now? All

1968
02:08:24.479 --> 02:08:26.119
right, I'll not in a second. Let me get the mask. That

1969
02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:31.319
guy's Australian. Uh, next name? It comes in from Houston. I

1970
02:08:31.359 --> 02:08:37.199
don't know where he's from, George. Is it the adult film actress?

1971
02:08:37.960 --> 02:08:43.319
Yes, fantastic, it's the Houston
five hundred whatever it was? Yeah?

1972
02:08:43.560 --> 02:08:50.000
Uh hey Jeff, yeah right,
whatever it was. I just was looking

1973
02:08:50.079 --> 02:08:54.239
this up on Wikipedia. It was
over sick. It was somewhere over six

1974
02:08:54.359 --> 02:08:58.479
hundred. Oh god, Jeff,
I was wondering what your thoughts were on

1975
02:08:58.560 --> 02:09:03.720
Star Wars. Is our Star Trek
online going free to play? It's happened

1976
02:09:03.720 --> 02:09:05.439
a couple of weeks ago. We
didn't. We didn't talk about it then

1977
02:09:05.439 --> 02:09:07.840
because there was other stuff happening.
Yeah, like every other MMO in the

1978
02:09:07.920 --> 02:09:11.720
existence that is not doing Gangbusters.
Yeah, sure enough. I want free

1979
02:09:11.760 --> 02:09:15.560
to play. Yeah whatever, what
do they give you anything? I think

1980
02:09:15.640 --> 02:09:20.720
all that means I'll be a gold
member for life, I guess because there

1981
02:09:20.760 --> 02:09:24.439
there is still a paid tier where
you pay the monthly fee. I don't

1982
02:09:24.439 --> 02:09:28.720
know. That's the universe doing for
you. I don't know. But the

1983
02:09:28.800 --> 02:09:31.399
great thing is you could jump in
anytime exactly. Yeah, I don't know,

1984
02:09:31.479 --> 02:09:35.279
like like yeah, on my form
spring and stuff like, people keep

1985
02:09:35.319 --> 02:09:37.920
asking about it like they're trying to
burn me or something, but not Yeah,

1986
02:09:37.920 --> 02:09:39.479
I don't know. I'd do it
again, Jeff, Jeff spends money

1987
02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:43.239
your responsibly. Yeah, this is
not People who do know Jeff well enough

1988
02:09:43.239 --> 02:09:46.960
to know that. Yeah, that's
I know that. You think it's fucking

1989
02:09:46.000 --> 02:09:48.279
crazy, and they would spend it
was two hundred fifty bucks I don't even

1990
02:09:48.319 --> 02:09:52.920
remember. Yeah, uh, but
he's spent more money more stupidly in the

1991
02:09:52.960 --> 02:10:01.239
past. How that your your Japanese
Future TV? Yeah that was pretty dumb

1992
02:10:01.359 --> 02:10:05.199
also, and you got Ropa doped
into that one too. You fucking got

1993
02:10:05.239 --> 02:10:07.680
into a suicide pact with someone who
backed out at the last second, and

1994
02:10:07.880 --> 02:10:09.720
then the mirror was like, oh, I gotta buy a car, dude,

1995
02:10:09.880 --> 02:10:13.880
Like I could have said that before
we got into the store. Exactly,

1996
02:10:13.439 --> 02:10:20.880
you asshole. Oh fantastic Jason from
Jersey. This past Sunday, I

1997
02:10:20.960 --> 02:10:24.720
was an NYCDC a concert and while
inline saw someone walk past wearing an Oscar

1998
02:10:24.840 --> 02:10:28.920
Mike shirt. Given that it was
the tenth anniversary of nine to eleven,

1999
02:10:28.000 --> 02:10:33.159
shouting anything containing the word bomb would
probably have gotten me detained for a few

2000
02:10:33.279 --> 02:10:35.960
years, so I thought better of
it. In those situations, what is

2001
02:10:35.960 --> 02:10:39.359
the best way to identify yourself as
a fellow fan? Just tackle them and

2002
02:10:39.359 --> 02:10:46.000
start punching. Everybody knows that you
should see packs. Yeah, that's yeah,

2003
02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:48.119
that's all that happens. Still got
a weird bruise on my arm.

2004
02:10:48.000 --> 02:10:52.439
It's you get for tackling everyone.
Yeah. Some other internet forums have secret

2005
02:10:52.439 --> 02:10:56.479
code phrases. Really, this guy, I'm aware of something awful code phrase

2006
02:10:56.720 --> 02:11:00.359
I have never never used. This
guy is suggesting a few What is such

2007
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as secret? It's secret? I
don't want even want to know it.

2008
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Yeah, that's a question. I
have something I don't want to. I

2009
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don't want to do too. I
don't want to get roped into the weird

2010
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cabal though. Yeah a good call. Now there's anything wrong with something awful,

2011
02:11:13.359 --> 02:11:18.000
but I read it a lot wrong
with something I've never posted. Yeah,

2012
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same, same, same, I
yeah, paid for a membership and

2013
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everything. You know, five bucks, I have archive access. I think

2014
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it's ten bucks. I forgot someone
gifted one to me a while back.

2015
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Yeah, Dick, I don't know. I don't have any good I don't

2016
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what does he suggest? He suggests
emails I'm a wizard or get bent.

2017
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I'm not sure that any of those
really were. Yeah, I don't think.

2018
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The hard thing is that our our
community is weirdly splintered, like there's

2019
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definitely there are people that and I
know this for a fact. We get

2020
02:11:50.439 --> 02:11:54.159
a lot of folks who listen to
this podcast who have never ever ever visited

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02:11:54.199 --> 02:11:58.720
the website, so they don't know
anything quick looks from the you know,

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02:11:58.760 --> 02:12:03.399
the forum, just from you know, hamburgers and photoshop threads, you know,

2023
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because the quick looks are a lot
like this podcast, except we're playing

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a game while it happens, sometimes
talking about the game. Yeah, no,

2025
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if you are just listening to the
podcast, come to the website.

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It's it's really good. We do
we put a lot of work into it.

2027
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We don't. Someone does a lot
of work gets put into it,

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right, Yeah, that's yeah.
Uh so that should that should pay off

2029
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for someone, I guess at some
point. So I'm not sure that there's

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anyone thing that crosses over everywhere that
that really works that way. Does No?

2031
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I don't know, all right.
The phrase is, hey man,

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you like the internet? What hell? Yeah? I like the Internet?

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And then you hug Yeah, I
think a good a good hey man,

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you like the internet? Good?
Not something like man hug you know,

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a full two handed, you know, head on shoulder the left, like

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you know, if you tilt to
the right. It's like you want to

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02:13:03.840 --> 02:13:07.399
get some kissing on, which is
fine too, just you know, a

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02:13:07.479 --> 02:13:11.880
caress. All right, what were
we talking about? Kissing? Okay,

2039
02:13:11.960 --> 02:13:15.520
yeah, I'm all for it,
gentle caress. Let's do it. I

2040
02:13:15.600 --> 02:13:24.159
mean not, I didn't mean it
like that too bad. Jack Chay from

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02:13:24.199 --> 02:13:26.119
Brooklyn, New York says, hey, guys, I love the site.

2042
02:13:26.119 --> 02:13:31.119
In the bodcast, keep up the
good work. Jack is both and he

2043
02:13:31.239 --> 02:13:33.520
likes both, and he likes both
too. There it is, there's a

2044
02:13:33.159 --> 02:13:37.119
testimonial. That's right. But bam. Question about driver San Francisco. How

2045
02:13:37.159 --> 02:13:41.199
often do you feel like you've seen
the same traffic pattern when you shift?

2046
02:13:41.399 --> 02:13:43.880
Does it feel pretty randomized or do
you start to see some sort of grouping

2047
02:13:45.000 --> 02:13:48.960
of cars. I didn't see anything
like that. It's kind of just random

2048
02:13:50.000 --> 02:13:50.960
all the time. I mean,
there's not as many cars as it would

2049
02:13:50.960 --> 02:13:54.000
be in actual San Francisco. There's
no real gridlocked traffic or anything like that.

2050
02:13:54.079 --> 02:13:56.479
But then you could say that about
any video game ever with cars.

2051
02:13:58.239 --> 02:14:01.119
Yeah, there's only so much.
Yeah, there's definitely. I mean,

2052
02:14:01.159 --> 02:14:05.920
you know, they definitely see the
traffic certain way when missions require it.

2053
02:14:07.279 --> 02:14:09.159
Like if you're in a mission where
all of a sudden you need a taxi,

2054
02:14:09.319 --> 02:14:13.159
you will find a taxi. If
you need big vehicles like you do

2055
02:14:13.199 --> 02:14:18.039
at the end of the game,
they quick big vehicles there. Just make

2056
02:14:18.079 --> 02:14:24.880
sure that you have what you need. Yeah, let gonna call it.

2057
02:14:24.960 --> 02:14:28.600
That's it for emails, thinks everyone
who rode in podcast jampon dot com.

2058
02:14:28.199 --> 02:14:31.399
Guys, let's get out of here. Sand was damn podcast. Let's talk

2059
02:14:31.439 --> 02:14:35.239
real briefly about T and T.
Okay, Yeah, I got a question

2060
02:14:35.359 --> 02:14:39.479
from someone. Okay, sure,
so we're gonna we're changing it up some

2061
02:14:39.840 --> 02:14:45.800
post big live live show where we
have several ideas for how Thursday Night Throwdowns

2062
02:14:45.840 --> 02:14:50.840
will will operate in the future.
Basically getting away from always being married to

2063
02:14:50.560 --> 02:14:54.960
us playing a multiplayer game with people
in the community in some sort of competitive

2064
02:14:56.000 --> 02:15:00.960
fashion for two hours. All of
these day things are going to change.

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02:15:01.960 --> 02:15:05.399
Every everything you just said, literally, everything that I just said is going

2066
02:15:05.439 --> 02:15:07.039
to change in some way or another, which does not mean we will not

2067
02:15:07.199 --> 02:15:13.039
play multiplayer games with the community.
But also, you know, we want

2068
02:15:13.039 --> 02:15:16.439
to broaden the kinds of games that
we can play. We want to do

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02:15:16.560 --> 02:15:22.239
stuff that's uh uh cooperative in nature, and stuff that's older, stuff that

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02:15:22.319 --> 02:15:26.479
can't necessarily be done online. A
larger showcase of games, yes, in

2071
02:15:26.640 --> 02:15:31.720
multiplayer formats online or off, you
know, just just kind of broaden our

2072
02:15:31.720 --> 02:15:33.359
horizons a little bit. We think
it will make for a more interesting show

2073
02:15:33.439 --> 02:15:37.600
going forward. Always competitive multiplayers,
sometimes cooperative, which which can be tricky

2074
02:15:37.640 --> 02:15:39.680
sometimes, you know, if we're
doing it online, because it's it can

2075
02:15:39.760 --> 02:15:43.279
be hard to get you know a
lot of people through there in two hours

2076
02:15:43.399 --> 02:15:45.960
or whatever. So So this week
we're doing kind of a you know,

2077
02:15:46.560 --> 02:15:50.920
a grand break from the format of
old and we're gonna be playing some Dead

2078
02:15:50.960 --> 02:15:54.199
Island four player co op with all
four players here in the office. Yeah,

2079
02:15:54.800 --> 02:15:58.640
and like scrub League would fit into
this, yeah slot, Yeah,

2080
02:15:58.680 --> 02:16:01.760
I think I think you're gonna see
scrub legg happen more often, you know,

2081
02:16:03.279 --> 02:16:05.920
older you know competitive games that you
know, maybe some split screen stuff

2082
02:16:05.960 --> 02:16:11.800
that you know is an honest system
that has a damn Internet connection on it,

2083
02:16:11.680 --> 02:16:15.920
things like that. But yeah,
this week Dead Island is what's being

2084
02:16:16.039 --> 02:16:20.560
played, and it's it's being played
all locally, So we'll still have community

2085
02:16:20.640 --> 02:16:24.439
interaction in other ways, but just
not in the playing with you guys.

2086
02:16:24.600 --> 02:16:26.159
Yeah, we'll still run chat and
take questions and all that stuff. But

2087
02:16:26.479 --> 02:16:31.680
but again we will also in the
future. Do you know classics TNT that

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02:16:31.840 --> 02:16:35.639
format is not going away entirely.
We just want some damn variety on that

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02:16:35.840 --> 02:16:41.319
note. So yeah, Thay,
Thursday, four pm Pacific time, Dead

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02:16:41.360 --> 02:16:43.600
Island, come watch it. It'll
be fun, I promise. And with

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02:16:43.719 --> 02:16:46.399
that, bomb Cast is done.
Thank you, guys, thank you,

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02:16:46.719 --> 02:16:50.760
and thank you guys for listening.
Uh and uh come back next Tuesday for

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02:16:50.760 --> 02:16:52.840
another edition of the Giant bodcast

