WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:03.160 Hey, before we get started, be sure to head over to ham Radio 2 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:09.960 two dot com forward slash email dash sign up to join my email list of 3 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:14.400 over nineteen thousand subscribers, where I like to send emails about upcoming events, 4 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:18.359 upcoming shopping deals, keep you updated with all the stuff going on with my 5 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:22.839 videos. Once that list reaches twenty thousand, I will be doing a giveaway 6 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:27.800 of another HF radio sign up today. And thank you for the support. 7 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:38.039 Okay, Hey, good evening to all. Thank you for joining us tonight. 8 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:44.399 I was wondering how long we were going to be able to go before 9 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:49.439 my power went out again. So some of you might have watched some videos 10 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:52.799 I put up a couple of months ago, and I am working on a 11 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:58.200 completely off grade Hamshack setup and I have all the stuff, but I need 12 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:00.920 to call an electrician to have them put the trance for switch in because I'm 13 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.479 not doing that myself, and you're supposed to get permits to do all that 14 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.280 too, so I ain't done that yet. If I would have known we 15 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:11.200 were gonna have such a rainy season in Texas this this last couple of months, 16 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:14.239 and I might have done it a little bit quicker, But uh, 17 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:19.760 Nevertheless, I took one of my power stations this week and plugged in my 18 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:25.280 fiber, the fiber box on the side of the house that runs where the 19 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.519 internet comes into my house. I plugged that in. I plugged in my 20 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:33.280 router and a couple other things, my Google Home devices and whatnot. Plugged 21 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.519 all that in and uh and all that's running on battery back up, so 22 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:40.599 even if the power blips, my Internet stays up. So priorities. You 23 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:42.239 got to have the priorities, son, That's just the way it works. 24 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:47.640 So uh so special shout out to all the folks in Green Text and the 25 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:52.000 chat tonight. I appreciate the YouTube channel support from all you guys. And 26 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:53.719 uh, I see a lot of you in there right now. I think 27 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.120 the first one I saw a five ZO three Nick was in there earlier, 28 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.239 ed AC three, I K I saw you in there earlier. Arthur was 29 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:05.680 in there, KK four p Al, I saw hikin and Hammond him radio 30 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.759 and Crusader Wayne ham till it hurts. Jody is in the chat. Thanks 31 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:16.199 for joining tonight. Somebody joined from Guam. Yeah, EO d Kaboom joined 32 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:23.000 from Guam. Appreciate you being here tonight and we're gonna talk about mestastic stuff 33 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:28.479 tonight, so that's the thing that we're gonna I've got some thoughts about it. 34 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.919 After Himvention. Himvention was my first time to actually have it in an 35 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:37.080 environment where other people were using it. I have some thoughts about that and 36 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:42.120 curious to see what you guys would have. So just about two minutes ago, 37 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:46.199 I updated my website, got a box of Edfong intenna is in yesterday. 38 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:53.080 Those are the three main ones that I sell that are the most popular. 39 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:54.560 Those are all back in stock for the moment until they sell out again. 40 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:58.319 Then I have to replenish. They sell really fast. So those of 41 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.319 you who are asking me about Edfong inten I just shared a link in the 42 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:02.919 chat. You guys can go check that out. But those are in stock 43 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:08.960 right now, and then I'm I'll have more mystery boxes soon. I don't 44 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:13.039 have any right now, but hopefully this week. We're not supposed to have 45 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.199 any rain this week, so if we can keep out of the rain for 46 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.840 at least a few days, I can get out in the garage and arrange 47 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:21.919 some stuff and put some more mystery boxes together. So we'll see how that 48 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:24.960 works there. But that is where we're at with that, and I appreciate, 49 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:30.680 appreciate those of you who support the channel in that way. Jan Luis, 50 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:32.960 thank you for the super chat. I appreciate that being out there. 51 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.680 And then Glenn, Glenn gave a super chat earlier before the stream started, 52 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:38.840 Thank you for that as well. Appreciate y'all support out there. All right, 53 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:44.719 let's bring on the crew. Frank t O Robert. What's going on, 54 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:50.479 guys? Happy happy Sunday? Yeah for sure, Yeah, happy Sunday. 55 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.919 Hey, you know I'm gonna start it here. Okay, why don't 56 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:58.000 you start it for h Yeah? Yeah, what's going on y'all? Yea, 57 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.560 I'm a little bit. It's nothing to do with you all on the 58 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.879 YouTube land. If you're driving in a thunderstorm, and I do it a 59 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:12.319 lot, and I used to do it for races and the weather, skyworn 60 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.599 and everything, and I love to I love it. I loved it. 61 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:20.680 But if you're out there in the rainstorm, we are all driving slow, 62 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:27.959 do not do not put your emergency flashes on. And this is why some 63 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:31.079 cars, some cars are really stupid. When you do that, you don't 64 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.959 know when you're breaking the people behind you. Do not have brake lights anymore, 65 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:41.040 because your lights are still doing this, no brake lights. So I'm 66 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:44.160 coming up behind you, and I'm used to driving the rain, so I'm 67 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:48.160 going a little faster. I don't know when you're stopping. Second point majority 68 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:53.240 of the cars out there. When your flashers are doing this, what do 69 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:59.600 you lose your term signals. I don't know where you're going. I don't 70 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:01.639 know if I'm going to pass you or not. You know, so do 71 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.040 not do not, do not do that. We're all going slow. We're 72 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:10.959 all driving what we feel that is comfortable. And that was about thirty miles 73 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:14.399 an hour in the rain, and that's okay. Yeah, do it together, 74 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:17.839 let's get there together. Do not put your flashes on. I'm sorry 75 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:20.480 that. I just I had to. I had to do it. I 76 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:26.519 had, Frank you. He's been wanting to rant that for the last twenty 77 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:30.199 minutes. So yes, I have what's frank, remove speed limits. Let 78 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:36.040 nature take its course. Hell, I agree with that selection. I was 79 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:40.480 the one going the fastest on the roads, and at one point I was 80 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:45.720 like I was just moving, but still I I I understand you want to 81 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:47.519 be careful. If you want to be that careful, get off the freaking 82 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:53.759 freeway. Ye, stop driving, Just just pull over. Yeah, I'm 83 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.519 sure an overpass or something new. Stay dry. I do not do not 84 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:02.920 stop under an overpass on a freeway. Do not stop, not even on 85 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:10.000 the shoker. If you drive a truck. Here's here's where I talk about 86 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:12.680 Frank again. If you drive a truck, I've driven through all kinds of 87 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.360 hail, never had any damage. Now, knock on wood. I know 88 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:16.800 a lot of guys who drive trucks have had a lot of hail damage, 89 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.720 but for whatever reason, I've never had any. I've never had any hail. 90 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:23.639 Your truck would look better with hail damage. You'd be more rugged, 91 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:31.319 and your truck is not. But please, please do not. If you 92 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:38.040 feel that you're you're safe, get off the road and and get under some 93 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:42.600 cover at a gas station. Just don't stop on the freeway. So some 94 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:46.399 people are not stopping, and even if you stop under them in the past, 95 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.199 we don't know you're there. Sometimes if it's that rainy, true, 96 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.879 and you're rightly get rear ended, even on the shoulder. So don't do 97 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:55.680 it. Don't do it. Don't do it. All right, all right, 98 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:58.680 moving on, because because this is not a. This is not a 99 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:02.600 live stream about although I had I had radio for a moment. For a 100 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:05.399 moment, I thought about changing my live stream. I really want to do 101 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:09.199 a read Timber. One of these days. I'm gonna get in the truck, 102 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:12.360 put the camera in the window, hit hit go live, and then 103 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:15.199 drive around and listen to all the races and areas traffic in the in the 104 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:21.000 area. So I know, yeah, I'm gonna do it so that that 105 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:26.079 streams everything. And well, yeah, I'll just do it on my phone. 106 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:28.720 We'll see. I don't know that something's better than nothing. I think, 107 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:31.879 uh, one thing real quick. I know. I saw Bill in 108 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:38.879 the chat Ham Radio tectonics who is discordedly challenged, So which is cool. 109 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:41.160 We love you Bill, Uh. Bill, if you want to join us 110 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:43.759 tonight, you're more than welcome to same zoom link as always. I know 111 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:47.360 you have some meshtastic experience and uh and I sent a message in Discord earlier 112 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:51.120 and I'm sure you didn't see it. So if you are available to join 113 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:55.519 Discord to join zoom, Bill, you are welcome to do that, all 114 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:59.079 right. So t O got a much much bigger travel trailer. He's got 115 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:03.360 actual like house windows in the side of his travel trailer and a fireplace and 116 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:09.959 whatnot. So not a green screen thread heavy driving around. Yeah, that's 117 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.279 why I got the big pickup truck. Yeah, that's faux break that that's 118 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:16.360 just that's just uh, that's just paneling. That looked like britt you know, 119 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:22.720 right, Yeah, totally totally. But it can barely hold the seven 120 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:30.639 o five up there you go. Oh boy, Okay, so just kind 121 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:35.559 of uh could it? Could it have been your rhino liigned hood, Jason, 122 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.519 Well maybe maybe, but only the hood is rhinoligned, so the rest 123 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.039 of it's not. I don't know the rest of it's covered though, and 124 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.600 other stuff. Yes, true, But I tell you what, that's seventy 125 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:50.159 eight four that I used to drive all the all the play all over the 126 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:56.279 place. That thing is hail impervious. It's like thick, it's like mosquitoes. 127 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:58.519 Yeah, so I had I don't even the six beetle that I had. 128 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:03.799 Yeah, through a hailstorm and zero den yeah right, lost a windshield. 129 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:09.320 Yeah. Meanwhile, everybody in town's getting their roof replaced, right, 130 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.000 totally totally all right, so meshtastic. So for those of you who don't 131 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:16.120 know what it is, it's basically In fact, some of the some of 132 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:20.320 the comments I got on the video that I put up, I'd like to 133 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:24.759 hear y'alls definition of it. It's an it's a way to build According to 134 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:30.919 the Meshtastic website, it is an off grid messaging system. But more than 135 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:35.519 that, it's a way to build a network of devices like what to is 136 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.240 holding up? Frank just held up a network of devices that don't connect with 137 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.559 the Internet. You can connect them to the Internet, but a network of 138 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.679 devices that don't connect with the Internet that mesh to one another when they get 139 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:52.159 in range. And they're using LAURA, which is long range, what's the 140 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.039 utility. It's a long range utility l O r A is short for long 141 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:00.440 range and supposedly they go very far. But you still got get some height 142 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.399 on him because it is nine hundred megortz. But but that's basically what it 143 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:07.679 is. So it's kind of like Arden, but a little bit more robust. 144 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:09.440 Well, not as much stuff. It won't do as much stuff as 145 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.919 Arden does, but it's not limited to the types of devices that Arden is 146 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:18.159 limited to. It you can get some pretty inexpensive devices, uh and run 147 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:20.879 Meshtastic on them and and you don't have to be a HAM It's in the 148 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:26.240 public is m band on the nine hundred megerts frequency and anybody can do it. 149 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.240 Do not have to be a hand raided operator to do this. So 150 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.440 Chris Bricker says, we are holding ours up to good for you, thank 151 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:37.759 you, thank you for doing that. So everybody joining the fun. Uh 152 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:43.679 so, so one, so we ran a many of us had where'd my 153 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:50.519 phone go? Many of us had devices at HAM vention And did I I 154 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.720 didn't leave my phone inside Gosham? Oh no, there it is. Many 155 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.279 of us had devices at hamvention. And that was the first time I'd been 156 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.000 in and I mean it was well over a hundre nodes that I was showing 157 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:03.480 on my screen here. Oh yeah, at one point there was that three 158 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:09.080 hundred yeah yeah. I think the most I saw was like two forty, 159 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.279 but something like that. Yeah. So but I'll tell you, but here's 160 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:18.120 the thing. Let me switch over here. Yep, So put that over 161 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:20.559 there, zoom down on that a touch. I'm still showing all these nodes 162 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.639 that I've deleted a few of them, but I'm still shocked. They don't 163 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.039 seem to go away, they don't seem to go away, So what is 164 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:31.799 up with that? What is up with the like? Like, I want 165 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.639 to know what it sees right now, and the only way to really see 166 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:37.279 what it sees right now is to scroll up to the top and look at 167 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.759 the time. That's the only way I've found so far, look at the 168 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:43.200 time stamp and say, oh, that's the time stamp it was seen one 169 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:46.840 minute ago or you know, thirty minutes ago, with it already raking them 170 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.559 in the order that's this last seen, So the lowest one is always on 171 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.519 top. I think, I think once they go off long, once they 172 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:58.399 become un of it, unseen, I think they're in just kind of like 173 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:03.159 a randomphazard order. But it does put like text messages though, it's just 174 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.720 yeah, you didn't delete them. They just stay there forever and there in 175 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:09.480 order of most recent. The third iconover, isn't that a map? It 176 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.360 is, yes, yep, and the map that even the map says, 177 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:18.039 you know, this one says fifteen days K four s W fifteen days ago, 178 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:24.000 this one whatever, the mt fourteen days ago. So yeah, so 179 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.080 they stay on the map too, or at least some of them do. 180 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:31.879 So it's it's as you should have a message for me from seven days ago. 181 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:35.039 I did did you see that? Yeah? I did. I saw 182 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.080 it like a few hours after you left. So So and Frank and I 183 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:41.519 were talking about this for the stream went life. I've been running mine in 184 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:45.679 my truck. I've been running that t beam in my truck with the external 185 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:48.840 antenna since I, well, all the way back from Dayton and since I've 186 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.240 been home from Dayton. So it's been running for about two weeks at home, 187 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:58.480 and I have seen zero people. I've meshed to zero people. I've 188 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:03.919 not seen any people at all via RF connection since I've been home. I 189 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:05.600 did see you, Robert, Robert Roberts came up. Robert came over and 190 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.679 picked up antenna that I carried home from him from Dayton, and uh, 191 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:11.200 and I saw it. And then like an hour after that or something later 192 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.600 that afternoon, I saw a digital rancher blah blah blah, and like, 193 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.120 oh there was and I saw your direct message as well. So yes, 194 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.840 but it took it an hour to populate even. No, no, that's 195 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:22.720 just no, no, no, that's just when I saw it. That's 196 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:24.360 just when I saw it. It saw it immediately because when he pulled up 197 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:28.200 in front of my house, My my my truck was in the driveway and 198 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:33.639 my my truck caught his first second. Took that long to populate. I 199 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:37.759 was like, whoa, yeah, no, get this, No, no, 200 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:39.279 no, no, it doesn't take that long. So yesterday I had 201 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.240 to go to Weatherford. Okay, so that's that's west of Fort Worth for 202 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:50.799 folks who are not aware. I hit three nodes in Weatherford. Really wow, 203 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.559 M see, because that's what I was going to say. I was 204 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:58.080 like, I have seen zero activity because I've driven around I don't know, 205 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:03.120 I've driven around the Mid Cities area quite. I haven't been out to Weatherford. 206 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.840 I don't get much chance to go out there. But I've driven around 207 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:09.639 Carrollton Lewisville Farmers Brand, not Farmer's Branch really, but Carleton Lewisville Coppel. 208 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.559 Well, I take that back. I got around two nodes and a router. 209 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.480 I got a router too, really okay m hm, okay, okay, 210 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.519 So I'm dropping a link in the chat for you. Have you seen 211 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:30.480 this link? Let me it's safe ish ish. Yeah. Well that's the 212 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.440 wrong window chrome chrome. I don't want to see that. Okay, let's 213 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.559 let's pull that up real quick. I have not seen this link. What 214 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.679 is this? Yeah, it's the empowered twenty four to seven map, and 215 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:41.960 it's there's a couple of different maps out here. I forget what the one 216 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:45.759 that US based is. It starts this one starts in the UK, and 217 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:50.840 UK is really popular with yeah six stuff. But if you shoot on over 218 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.000 to the US, you'll see like Charlotte, North Carolina, Phoenix, Arizona, 219 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.200 It's like Dallas is pretty hot. It's a heat map and then new 220 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.960 zoom in and it starts telling you nodes some down in Houston area. Okay, 221 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:03.960 so where is this information coming? Are these nodes that are connected to 222 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:07.399 the internet or how how does that work? These are that are reporting to 223 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:11.720 the internet. Okay, So that's the other to the internet, right right? 224 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:15.919 Okay, so that's the That's the other thing that I that I found 225 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:22.799 was that I I had my Internet connected to my TA beam in the truck 226 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.159 when we were at hamvention, and it was starting to cause lag on the 227 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.159 network just because it was bringing in all the nodes that were local to us 228 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:33.039 plus everything on the Internet. So we turned so I turned that off and 229 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.639 I turned off, and a couple other people were doing the same thing. 230 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:39.320 I think those turned off too. Paul, thank you for the super chat 231 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:41.279 buddy, appreciate that he says that three hundred nodes. Did any of your 232 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:45.679 nodes lock up and require reboot? Silar to our use at Defcon? Yeah, 233 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:48.720 yeah, so the the network was very laggy with not even three hundred, 234 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.639 like two hundred and forty no's yeah uh to share that link in the 235 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:58.960 chat, Mike's asking for it, n yoh yeah, sure thing. So 236 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:02.240 so we turned the internet off and whatnot and pretty much all the drive home 237 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:03.320 for a few days. After I got home, I wanted to see what 238 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:07.200 was local to me, so I had the internet turned off. But ever 239 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:14.039 since I even turned the internet back on, I haven't seen stuff pop up 240 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.600 on my note at all. And I don't know if that's because we're in 241 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:19.320 that super secret chat room that we were using just for him. Vention. 242 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.320 I still have the long fast chat room, the super secret chat room that 243 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:26.759 yeah, that yeah, that that we shared all over the place, but 244 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.279 you know, no one around me has it. But I don't know, 245 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:37.960 so I'm a little bit I'm I'm unsure of exactly how it works because it 246 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.600 was the density of the nodes. It doesn't I understand that we're all in 247 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:45.559 the same chat or not, because these still the nodes still talk to each 248 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:47.879 other. And I talked to a lot of people on just on the long 249 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:51.679 fast room, the default room that weren't necessarily part of it. So when 250 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:53.039 we went to four days in May, I was having a conversation with two 251 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:56.559 or three guys. They're like, wow, is everybody at our hotel? 252 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:57.399 I was like, yeah, we're down here at four days in May, 253 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:03.000 Like, oh cool. I didn't know this would be here, so yeah, 254 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:04.000 so that was fun. But my point is, I've just I've not 255 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:07.079 seen anything at home, even after connecting my internet, my node back to 256 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:12.279 the internet, so I have so have you Okay, Okay. When I 257 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:15.839 first got it right, I got it like two days before it was time 258 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:21.440 to leave, So I was I was doing like a boot camp, trying 259 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:22.880 to figure out what the heck all this stuff was, right. So I 260 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:27.160 just kind of did like an immersive like four hours just trying to figure it 261 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:34.839 all out. And I turned on the MQTT stuff yes, and I just 262 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:38.880 threw a hey, is this working out there? And I had two or 263 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:47.559 three people coming back to me. One guy was in Ohio just by you 264 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:51.640 know, just by chance, wasn't in Zenia, wasn't okay than anything like 265 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:55.960 that. It was just somebody in Ohio. I also got one from Phoenix, 266 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:02.119 and I think I think the other one was Washington's date. Cool hm 267 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:04.519 hmm okay, so so real quick, I think I think we might have 268 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:07.240 said something wrong because it looks like Bill just showed up to correct us. 269 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:15.240 I know. Yeah, yeah, so uh let's see. So uh K 270 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:19.720 five t a O says to find those in it in an area, quickly 271 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:23.240 send a message to all to the all channel and they will show. I 272 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:27.680 think I did that. I think I did that, but it's possible I 273 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:30.519 send it to our two birst channel instead, So let me double check on 274 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:37.319 that. Maybe maybe I didn't send it to the default channel. And hear 275 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.039 me, Yeah, you're in the car, dude, I'm in the car, 276 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:48.079 all right, cool man with the background. I don't know how to 277 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:55.640 change it. I'm not gonna bother. Oh it's technologically challenged. I'm not 278 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:59.680 in San Francis. I'm in the car, okay, all right? Uh 279 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:03.079 so yeah, so Tracy says, to clear the node list. To excuse 280 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.680 me, to clear the list, go to settings radio configure no dB reset. 281 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.440 Okay, maybe I'll do that because I would like to see what I'm 282 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:15.440 seeing now and not what I saw two weeks ago, several states away. 283 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:18.559 I was thinking that I was seeing Carlos there for a while because he kept 284 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.079 showing up at the top of my list. But you know, as the 285 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:25.279 days went by, the number of days since I've seen that node had had 286 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:27.160 kept increasing. Also, I'm like, no, this is old information. 287 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:33.200 So yeah, well and remember Jason, when you guys, when you and 288 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.880 Mike were at Kyles and we all had MQTT on, right, we could 289 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:44.279 we could all chat. Yes, yeah, that was before that was like 290 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:48.240 two days. That was like Thursday, Wednesday night, I think, yeah, 291 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:49.599 I think so, No, Tuesday night. It was Tuesday night? 292 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.079 Was it Tuesday night? No, we didn't get there on Tuesday night. 293 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:56.319 We got we didn't get there to Wednesday morning. You got the Kyles on 294 00:19:56.359 --> 00:20:00.519 Tuesday night? Yes, okay, you mean for okay, you said Kyle's 295 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.880 and I'm thinking the airbnb, but you mean his house. Okay, yes, 296 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:08.559 yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, Okay, MQTT can't 297 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.680 be the killer when there's a lot of nodes around, that's uh. I 298 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:17.440 think that's what I've read on and I've heard and I've read and I think 299 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:21.519 Josh is onto that now too. Uh. When a bunch of nodes are 300 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:26.400 in an area, and that's already kind of a knob, but then they 301 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:32.440 they virtually invited everyone in on the internet, and that m QTT can can 302 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:37.759 be a blocker full of congestion. I can't think of words, but you 303 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:40.720 know what I mean. No, I get you, I get you. 304 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:44.839 Yeah. So somebody asked how do you turn on the internet a second ago. 305 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.559 So I am connected to this node right now, this this node right 306 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:52.720 here, and it is not and it is seeing the node in my truck 307 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:56.440 right now. Now. This is one thing that Arden will do that Mettastic 308 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.759 will not do. Okay. So if I'm connected here to this node, 309 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:02.640 this app on my phone is connected to this node right now. Okay, 310 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:06.200 so that's what it's seeing. And I see all these active hops. I 311 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:10.240 can click on a hop on Arden and then I could administer that node that 312 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:14.079 I'm connected to via one or two hops. I can't do that Mestastic. 313 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:18.039 So this case, five hwb desh V. That's the node in my truck 314 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.119 right now that's running and it's connects. It's seeing it via RF to this 315 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:26.400 node. But I can't connect the app on my phone to my truck right 316 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:29.680 now because I'm too far away from it. But what you would do is 317 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:32.079 you would and this is the Android app, and I'm going I'm gonna talk 318 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:34.200 about the iPhone app here in a second. This is the Android app. 319 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:37.920 So what you do is just kind of tap on that on the node that 320 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.599 you're connected to, go to Radio configuration and if you go to network you'll 321 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.559 see Wi Fi enabled right there, and it's by default it should be off. 322 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.359 You turn that on, you connect to whatever, and it doesn't do 323 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:52.000 a scan, I don't think. So you just have to know what the 324 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.480 ssid, SSID and password is for whatever Wi Fi you want to connect to, 325 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:00.440 and just enter that and then it will come up and it'll come up 326 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.599 as an IP address on your screen here where you see all the nodes that 327 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:07.799 you have available to you. And then once you do that, you can 328 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:12.119 go back in here into radio configure and go to m QTT and you can 329 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:17.400 turn that on and somehow that connects you to the server with all the other 330 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:21.279 nodes or something like that. I don't I don't understand. Connecting to Wi 331 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.799 Fi allows your node to connect to Wi Fi. Connecting to m QTT, 332 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.960 I think connects you to the Meshtastic server because it has a server address in 333 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:30.720 here, and I don't know all the specifics or particulars behind that. That's 334 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:36.599 just how I understand it. So, but that's but I can't administer my 335 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:38.920 k C five hwbsh V node, even though I can see it right here, 336 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:42.680 I can't administer it from the app. But if we were talking about 337 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:45.519 Orden right now, we could do that. But this is this They haven't 338 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.799 built that into this system yet. I'm told that maybe they're working on that 339 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.400 and that'll be coming soon, but I don't know for sure. I will 340 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:57.519 say also that we were several of us were at hamventionin and we were comparing 341 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:00.640 the app. Well, Mike Kadim Murdie, he was in the truck and 342 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:04.799 we were kind of tinkering with it between Kyle's house and and Xenia and UH 343 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:08.880 and even at Kyle's house that night. And the iPhone app is much more 344 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:12.960 robust and has a lot more options than the android app is. So whoever, 345 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:17.079 the android developer at Mestastic needs to get on the ball because there's not 346 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:18.799 there's not as many. I mean, you could still do everything. You 347 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.079 could just do a lot more. You do a lot of extra stuff on 348 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.680 the iPhone app. So I got my iPad out early and started charging it, 349 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:26.920 but I didn't bring it out here. Quack. Question about the m 350 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:33.839 q TT is that device specific or all of these nodes can join the Wi 351 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:37.279 Fi network. So the way I understand the way, the way that it 352 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:41.880 worked at ham Vencha, it's device specific. But if you are so. 353 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:47.319 Let So when I had my truck turned on, I had I had my 354 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:49.920 truck node connected to my I have Wi Fi in my truck. I understand 355 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:55.680 the configuration. I just want to know Whi's nodes or what's radios. I'm 356 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:56.759 getting to that. Okay, I'm getting to that. Okay, So I 357 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.960 have my truck, I have I have full time WiFi in my truck. 358 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:04.839 I had my Meshtastic node that runs in my truck on an external intenna connected 359 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:08.759 to that Wi Fi and my truck and MQTT turned on, so it was 360 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:14.000 connected to serve and everything. When you brought your node within range of my 361 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:17.079 truck, you were now on the internet. You were being reported to the 362 00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:19.279 Internet server as well, and once you got out of range, then it 363 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:23.640 showed as a passed node or however that works, so in a roundabout way, 364 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:30.039 you your node is connected the Internet when you get within a radio range 365 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:36.039 of an MQTT connected node. That's why I turned my the MQTT in the 366 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:37.880 and the Internet off in my truck when we were at hand Mention because it 367 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.880 was pulling in too much information was really bogging down the network. But then 368 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:48.720 you do you do not have to be a connected to Wi Fi for MQTT 369 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:52.559 to work. I have never connected any of my nodes to Wi Fi, 370 00:24:52.440 --> 00:25:00.759 and when I turned on one node, I turned on MQTT and it bit 371 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:07.200 connected to the Internet through the phone. Oh it uses your phones, Okay, 372 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:12.880 okay, just like if you don't have a GPS device right in the 373 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:18.480 node, it will get the GPS off your phone. If you turn on 374 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:27.680 MQTT without Wi Fi or Ethernet, it will connect through your phone. Okay, 375 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:32.359 I I think I've heard that before. I've never tried that myself. 376 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:38.279 That's great if you want to keep your phone or tablet or device next to 377 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:42.200 your node twenty four to seven and let it run Otherwise, if you turn 378 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.839 on Wi Fi and you just if you have a node running at your house 379 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.920 like this one I'm about to show you, or that one running in your 380 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.960 vehicle with Wi Fi on all the time, then you don't have to run 381 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:53.160 it. I don't have to run an app. I don't run an app 382 00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:57.480 connected to my one in the truck, and it just it just runs so 383 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.279 I can always see it from from this. But yeah, that's good to 384 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.599 know. I had forgotten that, Bill, So I'm glad you said that. 385 00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:11.400 Uh okay in a yo. Yeah wow, Jason said something on it's 386 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:14.519 better on iPhone than Android. Yeah, one app out of out of a 387 00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:17.119 million and a half apps, one app. So yeah, congratulations, you 388 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:23.559 know, golf clap and all that. So at Frank I was gonna say, 389 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:26.400 I was telling Mike I'm about to put him in time out for spins 390 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:32.920 and nonsense. Yeah, go ahead, man, go ahead. So what 391 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:37.279 I was going to say is, uh, don't make the mistake I made. 392 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:42.920 Whenever you're connecting your node to Wi Fi, make sure that you put 393 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:49.079 in the S s I D and the password at the on the same screen. 394 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.319 If you put in the S S I D and then you back out, 395 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.200 and then you think you're going to go back in to put the SS 396 00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.519 or to put the password in. After the fact, you're going to be 397 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:07.240 disconnected from Bluetooth because you can only have Bluetooth or Wi Fi on. So 398 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.039 just connect you from Bluetooth and you're not going to have the credentials to get 399 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:18.720 into Wi Fi, so you have to physically connect your node then to a 400 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:25.119 console to set the password or to turn on Bluetooth. So it constantly me 401 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:29.720 the just plug in like you reflashed it, plug into the USB poor and 402 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:34.160 go to that. Yep. Yeah, that's that's something I think is really 403 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:40.079 I think that's a failure in the design is that it won't run both Wi 404 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.640 Fi and Bluetooth at the same time. Because the first time I connected my 405 00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:48.240 node to Wi Fi, I couldn't connect. I couldn't connect back to it 406 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:53.400 from the app on my phone. I had to basically reset it and do 407 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:57.559 everything again and write down the infram air you know, save the password or 408 00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:02.039 whatever you think once it got connect, and then and then and then and 409 00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:04.480 then. The trick is that your fund in order to connect once your once 410 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:08.240 your note is on Wi Fi, it disables Bluetooth, as I just said, 411 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.680 as Robert just said, then and and then I was trying to connect. 412 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.640 I was trying to I was like, why is it not showing up? 413 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:17.880 Why is it not shown Well, my the WiFi, my phone was 414 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:21.119 turned off, So your phone that's running the app has to be on the 415 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:25.359 same Wi Fi as your as your mesh Tastic note is for them to see 416 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.240 each other and talk to one another so you can. It's just it was 417 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.920 just it was just kind of a learning curve, you know. It's just 418 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.160 something I wouldn't used to that with Bluetooth being turned off when you're running WiFi. 419 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.599 I thought that was weird. Think you think it will attempt to connect 420 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.640 the first time, fail out and turn back on Bluetooth. Yeah, that 421 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.319 would be ideal, but it doesn't know now. Now, after it connects 422 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.839 sexfully the first time, then it has an active weight to be like, 423 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.039 Okay, it's there. I'm waiting for it. I'm waiting for it. 424 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:56.039 I'm waiting for it. Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, but it was, 425 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.839 uh, overall, it's it's it's it was definitely a learning experience. 426 00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:03.000 I am glad that we did it. I look forward to us trying it 427 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.640 again. I imagine that I plan on taking mine to Utah in July and 428 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.400 next month, and j it was fun. It was fun, a lot 429 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.839 of fun. It was a lot of the other thing that I thought was 430 00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:19.319 really interesting. And I just put this in a video that was uploading right 431 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:23.839 before we got on here, Jason, So everybody go check that out after 432 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:29.240 the fact if you need more mesh tastic. What I thought was really interesting 433 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:37.400 is there were a couple of vendors who tried to take advantage of the whole 434 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.839 meshtastic thing, right. They did some advertising in some of the rooms to 435 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.440 say, hey, if you're looking for this, come on over to our 436 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.200 booth. Hey, if you're looking for that, come on over to Target. 437 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.319 Yeah, it's pretty good. Ham Steady did that. I think Alfon 438 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:55.039 Tennas did it as well. Yeah, yeah, I thought that was great. 439 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:56.519 In fact, I told Richard at Hampsteady is like, you need to 440 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.759 take one or you they he has a UHF and but I don't think he 441 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.440 has one for nine megahertz. I'm like, you need to make a nine 442 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.880 mets antenna and advertise it as works on the ISM band for Laura. And 443 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:12.759 he's like, because I mean, what was great. Is he was hot 444 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.920 and air conditioning. He's right, you know, He's like, hey, 445 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.880 right, you guys are hot, right, yeah, yeah, that's right. 446 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:26.480 That was funny. Okay, let's see Mark is asking, how is 447 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.680 your truck set up as a router? How are you connected to two separate 448 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:36.039 devices? Uh, I'm not well, I'm I'm not connected to two separate 449 00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:40.319 devices. My my phone what I just do with that? Oh, my 450 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:44.400 phone is connected to this, yeah, I lost the app on my phone 451 00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:49.559 is connected to this via Bluetooth. This via Laura is seeing my truck, 452 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:52.960 which is just that way, not too far that way, so I can't 453 00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:56.359 I don't have the one in the truck doesn't have the blue Well, Bluetooth 454 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.079 is not turned on on the one the truck. If maybe I connected to 455 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.680 my WiFi in my truck right now, I might be able to connect to 456 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.559 that node maybe. But this node that I'm holding my hand is seeing via 457 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.039 Laura, is seeing the node in my truck, and that's how I can 458 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.799 see those both at the same time. I'm not actually connected to the one 459 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.880 in the truck via the app. I'm connected via Laura. And these things 460 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:19.920 are cheap too, so you know, get a two pack so you could 461 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:25.160 talk to yourself. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Well here's the this is 462 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:29.920 the oh where did it go? There? Right there? Okay, and 463 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.599 zoom back out. This is the rack r AK call it a rack. 464 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.599 Yeah, it's a company name that makes it. Set of health click yeah, 465 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.799 And it has solar panel on it, and it comes with this this 466 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:48.279 large antenna and this is a waterproof cause it comes all like this, and 467 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:49.240 it actually kind of and I thought I had to I thought I was going 468 00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:52.960 to have to put my own battery in. It came with this eighteen six 469 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.720 fifty in it as well, so it's got a USBC charger on it right 470 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.720 now, or of course it'll charge via solar as well. So, but 471 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.160 this one is made to be set outside. And I was just telling Frank 472 00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:07.839 before the stream start, I was like, you need to get one of 473 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:09.400 these, and we need to put them on top of our houses. And 474 00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:13.559 see because we both have two story houses. Now there's a lot of stuff 475 00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:15.599 between Frank and I and and we never could get ard in too work. 476 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.640 But that was on two point four gigaherts. These are on nine hundred megaherts 477 00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.319 and they're gonna penetrate trees and foliage and buildings a lot better than two point 478 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.960 four giga hurts. Well, it's not gonna be. It's not nearly as 479 00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:30.640 narrow banded as two point four gigaherts is. So I'm I'm curious, Frank, 480 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.519 if if we could build it to see each old. I gotta tell 481 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.920 you something about that node. Go ahead, man, Okay, that that 482 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:43.640 is my favorite node in a way, and it is on top of the 483 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:49.279 green hamd machine. It's on top of my trailer. It as it is 484 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:55.119 now, it won't keep up, especially if you have a couple of non 485 00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:00.640 sunny days back to back. I know, yeah that node to I left 486 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:06.279 the battery, but I hooked that note power and so the battery is the 487 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:13.160 battery backup. But that panel won't keep up even though those racked are the 488 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:20.480 most power. Yeah, yeah, they are the most that panel. And 489 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.599 I think they've gone to a bigger panel for that node for that reason. 490 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:30.039 So I'm yeah, yeah, exactly. It's possibly have some solar panels, 491 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.839 are shs? I don't know, yes, but yeah, so it looks 492 00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.200 like so this is the guy where I got that this and this is something 493 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.680 that Josh sent me that Josh found this guy. And this one right here 494 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:43.319 at the top right with the little solar panel on it, which is one 495 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.799 I have. I don't see that available in his Etsy store right now, 496 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:50.799 but I do see these other two that have larger panels like this. And 497 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:52.759 this is all complete, like like one hundred and forty bucks, and it 498 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:59.000 comes with the battery, the uh and it's got a I'm not sure what 499 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.000 that is inside well rack as I guess is the name of the actual device 500 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.240 inside of it. But it's got the battery, it's got the antenna, 501 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.279 it's got the solar panel. Comes with this larger solar panel. So maybe 502 00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:12.719 I'll put a larger solar panel on mine, because that's just this little solar 503 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.559 panel here. I could I could easily change that out. And there's more 504 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:20.519 than just Racking there. So Racket is the company that Internet a thing, 505 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:30.480 Laura company that makes that fantastic receiver transceiver Garth the guy that makes those nodes. 506 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:37.760 He does a special board that they attached to. So there's a little 507 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.679 extra inside of there, like for instance, I think it's the bluetooth antenna. 508 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.360 You don't need an antenna, his board has the antenna. I think 509 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:52.320 that's it. So the garth makes good stuff. I've got three of his. 510 00:34:52.840 --> 00:35:00.000 Hmm good. Okay, Well that's what this what I a GPS up 511 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.199 here, and then the Bluetooth antenna down there. So this is not a 512 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.559 rack. This is this is the rack five thousand and five. Oh that's 513 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:14.239 a lot bigger than the one I've got. Yeah, I mean that. 514 00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:16.239 That's my hand behind it, right, yeah, exactly, Yeah, that 515 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.679 things. Yeah, that's in a that looks like one of those boxes you 516 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.119 put on the side of your house to pend out right. Yea, yeah, 517 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.639 it's a it's an aftermarket box. Okay, it's a R R T 518 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:31.599 H I E A I. It's not a word. That's not a word, 519 00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.440 okay. And then there's the Like I said, there's the GPS antenna 520 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.760 up here, and then down here is the Bluetooth antenna. There's a battery 521 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.079 over here. I wish it was an eighteen six fifty type cell. That's 522 00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.079 one of those LiPo pillows. And then the little black thing in there is 523 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:51.039 the rack boards. What you build Did you build it yourself? Steve No, 524 00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.119 This came off of the one of the swap meat items on like a 525 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:58.840 hand radio, crash course discord or something. Oh okay, interesting, I'd 526 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.639 like to get one of those myself. I can't. And then it's got 527 00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:05.880 that same solar panel that that probably can't keep up. No, that's a 528 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.679 whole that's a lot bigger than so it's all nine, that's bigger. Yeah, 529 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:14.480 this is the this is the sign here. Yeah. Yeah, but 530 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:16.239 I mean it's it's just a solar panel. I mean, you know, 531 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:22.159 go grab one, this one. This one's got to uh. In fact, 532 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.519 if you go back to the overhead here, this one's just got these 533 00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.119 two wires coming out of the top here, which is where the solar panel 534 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.119 is. It's just a positive and negative wire that go writing here to this 535 00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:36.400 pin. You could easily add your own solar panel to that positive and negative 536 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.599 wire right there and just add Azo said something, Hey, put a bio 537 00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:42.440 in on it. And I'm like, a good idea, right, I 538 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.199 mean you could yeah, yeah, totally. You probably have to down converted 539 00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:51.559 to Yeah. Yeah, it's a it's a few it's a lower voltage than 540 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:57.719 the bioanal and the only thing is keep that solar connector to the board that 541 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.760 is specific to the board. Yeah, but I have a if you get 542 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.599 a larger seven, so it's it's all about the average, but it's about 543 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:14.480 seven volts. I have a larger one from voltaic and it keeps up. 544 00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:21.000 It does it. It's always powered. Okay, okay, So somebody's watching 545 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:22.920 at home talking Smack says that his is bigger. So I told him come 546 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:31.199 on the live stream, Steve. Oh yes, yeah, yeah, I 547 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:35.360 saw him and earlier. Go ahead, Robert. I was just going to 548 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.440 say, there's a couple of questions out there we might want to tackle. 549 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:43.559 One of them was explain what the fun is, right, somebody still doesn't 550 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:47.199 get it out there, so you know, I'll you wouldn't understand. No, 551 00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:53.519 I'm kidding. Our network not controlled by corporate AT and T Briding or 552 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:59.559 anybody. It's net Yeah. But for me, the fun part of it 553 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:04.239 is, first of all, the app is really pretty impressive for a free 554 00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:08.320 app for a few for a free kind of a networking system. It's got 555 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:14.800 a lot of feature. I mean, it doesn't cost a dime. It's 556 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:20.119 really pretty good. Android or iOS are both good. Uh, it's you 557 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:24.880 know, it's it's just fun to see. Some of these devices have a 558 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.320 built in GPS. You can add a GPS to others, so it's it's 559 00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.320 cool to see people moving around on a map, kind of like a p 560 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:37.519 R S a bit different, right, uh, and and and it's just 561 00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:42.000 kind of see it's fun to see who else has one, Who shows up 562 00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.000 in the network, who shows up on your map, who shows up in 563 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.519 you in your in your room. I don't know if we talked about this 564 00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.760 yet or not, but it's not technically ham radio, so you can do 565 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.000 things like encryption over it. If you wanted to send encrypted messages, if 566 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.400 you wanted to send, you know, photos of what your grocery list looks 567 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.119 like to your spouse, you can do that. If you wanted to put 568 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:04.920 in your call sign, you can use more power and then you can't do 569 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.599 encryption anymore. But it's you know, it's nine hundred and fifteen Maker Hurts. 570 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.079 It's I think it's inside one of the it's insider nine hundred Maker hurts. 571 00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.199 Hand band, isn't it or is it like really really close? No, 572 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.760 it's inside the ham it's inside the hand band. I think if it's 573 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.519 super cheap hardware, you know, it's it's fun to play with. It's 574 00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:23.119 yeah, it's what hand radio should have grown up into. If we all 575 00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:28.119 kept developing. I think, I think Steve, I think you've pissed off 576 00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.679 Steve. And now I've got Steve squared in the stream, and I hope 577 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.000 you didn't crater my stream here in a minute. But what's up, dude? 578 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.360 How are you hey? I'm doing all right? How are you all 579 00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:40.320 right? We were just uh comparing the size of our meshtastic nodes. Of 580 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:46.119 mine is bigger than Steve's smaller, It doesn't matter about the size. Well, 581 00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:50.159 this is still on the commercial bands. You're not doing anything to play 582 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.679 with the power? Got the yah? Right? Yeah? Actually this one's 583 00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:58.280 this one's set up for four thirty three megaerts. Oh nice, So talk 584 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.519 to yourself and only to yourself, right right, Well, I mean I 585 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.519 put it on the m QTT and then I can talk to everybody that's you 586 00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:09.719 know, flighting the channel. That's true, That's true. Okay. So 587 00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:12.920 it's actually a good point to bring up. If you are not in the 588 00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.800 United States watching the stream and you want to get in and play with this, 589 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.400 your local country might be on a different band, So check out Mestastic 590 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.480 in your area and then get the band appropriate model. I think UK is 591 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.280 in the eight hundred megahertz range. Yeah, but I'm not in the UK, 592 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.679 so I don't know, all right, So somebody who's asking what's the 593 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.519 best one to start with? So I just shared the link to my Amazon 594 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:37.039 store. I built meshtastic devices and accessories, and a lot of these, 595 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.840 a lot of these devices we're talking about tonight are only on Etsy, made 596 00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:46.320 by different people. That the Raka one from from Garth vh is is right 597 00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:49.800 here, and I shared that link earlier. I'll put all these links in 598 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.840 the description after the livestream is done. But this one right here, I 599 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:58.039 suggest starting with these hell Tech V three's Yeah, which is which is right? 600 00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:02.760 That's these right here, the DIY male yeah, yeah, they I 601 00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.039 don't know. I like the t beam as well. But I'll tell you 602 00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:13.679 right now. You were talking just a second ago about about the you called 603 00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:19.360 it the no no, no, the the Steve was calling it the battery 604 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.960 pillar battery LiPo pillow, Yeah, LiPo pillow that one. So in fact 605 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:25.880 I got a bought some more. Yeah, this guy right here. So 606 00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.119 here, you guys tell me if you've experienced this also. So this will 607 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:36.639 run my hell Tech for about a day and a half roughly, maybe not 608 00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.159 quite that maybe not quite thirty six and maybe like twenty four to thirty hours 609 00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:45.920 something like that. Jason, that is that was that your experience in Dayton 610 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:51.559 or is that your experience at your house. I haven't really run it much 611 00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:53.000 at the house since I've been home. I've just been running and running the 612 00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:57.159 truck. Uh. But no, at Dayton. That was my experience at 613 00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.079 Dayton. It was over a day, over a day that t beam kills 614 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:07.519 in eighteen six fifty and about eighteen ish hours something like that. I would 615 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.559 get on day out of mind, right, I would. I'd charge it 616 00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:14.599 overnight, yeah, and you know, I'd walk out the door and it'd 617 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:19.880 be good until you know, eleven o'clock whenever I'd plug it back in and 618 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.239 roughly like yeah, five or six percent left right on the battery. Yeah, 619 00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:27.559 right. So these batteries are smaller and lighter weight, they come with 620 00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.199 the connectors on them, and they last longer than the eighteenth then the single 621 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.039 eighteen six fifty does. That's been my experience. Maybe the t beam is 622 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.960 less efficient on the battery. I don't know, but I so I tell 623 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.519 people get a hell tech with one of these batteries and all of those are 624 00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:44.400 linked in my Amazon story. I just linked, but I mean that's where 625 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:45.599 I like to start. I agree with you on the t beam. The 626 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:50.519 great thing about the t beam is that it comes with its own SMA connector 627 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.440 and you can put an external antenna on it right away. But there's there's 628 00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:59.119 a hundred ps built in GPS. Yes, very true. There's one hundred 629 00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:02.920 different places to get these uh three D printed Helltech case. This is a 630 00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:07.599 hell Tech inside of here, which is the same thing Frank holdiers up. 631 00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:12.360 That's the that's the case that the hell Tech comes with, or a lot 632 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.760 of them do, and those work fine, but that one you have to 633 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.039 you have to put a connected battery to it like that or run it. 634 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.199 It'll charge, it'll charge and work via USB C. But these three D 635 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.559 printed cases allow you to put on an external antenna with s M A and 636 00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:30.239 the and UH and put that same that three thousand million Pire battery inside of 637 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.199 here. So I like that hell Tech a little bit better for a starter 638 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.000 radio. That's my opinion, and opinions vary. Sure, this is my 639 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.559 t beam, right And I saw that, and I ordered one of those 640 00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:45.000 cases like two days ago because that's yeah, yeah, in fact here, 641 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.679 I'm gonna pin you Robert Show show show that case around real quick, because 642 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.840 that's really cool looking. Sure, yeah, so it's it's first of all, 643 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.360 it's just really well done. The buttons on it just work. They 644 00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.920 actually, I mean you can feel the click. It's just I mean, 645 00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:06.480 everything about this is really well done. It's got a super strong belt clip 646 00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:10.400 on it. Right, this makes a lot of ht's blush with you know 647 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:15.519 how strong this thing is. Yeah, this is three D printed. It's 648 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:22.360 got a kickstand, which is also convenient. And the guy who makes them, 649 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:28.320 he puts, uh, he puts magnets in the case and in the 650 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.199 kickstand. Right, I mean, this thing is you know, it's it's 651 00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:36.360 solid today, but you know this will this will wear over time, and 652 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:40.199 so when that happens, those magnets will keep that from flopping around. And 653 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:44.039 Steve ask if that's three D printed? Were you talking about the case or 654 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.800 the clip? The clip is metal clips metal the case it? Okay, 655 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:53.400 yeah, correct, correct? Yeah, I think I think this is just 656 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:59.239 an outstanding package altogether. Right. It's the batteries easy. I mean, 657 00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:04.039 it's going to last you a day unless you haven't connected to power. That's 658 00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.679 the eighteen fifty inside of their eighteen six fifteen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 659 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.760 okay, okay, right, and you guys all know the eighteen six 660 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.840 fifty deal, right, I mean you're going to see those on Amazon that 661 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:21.519 say they're you know, five thousand milliams, eight thousand millionams. They're not, 662 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:23.880 They're not right. No, if you find one that's you know, 663 00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:29.639 three thousand milliams thirty two hundred milliams, you got a good one and go 664 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:36.599 with that brand, and you know you'll do well. Uh okay, so 665 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:45.639 dumb, all right, So Aaron is asking a link for a good three 666 00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.719 D a good V three. He'll take B three case. I just got 667 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:51.920 this case the other day? Where'd it go? There? It is? 668 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:53.800 I just got this case the other day. I'll open it up before a 669 00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:58.400 year in a second. The same link you shared, Steve, what you're 670 00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:02.559 showing right now? No, this is moozy dot works. There's a lot 671 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.599 of them in there, so you guys feel free to share links in the 672 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:08.519 chat if you want to. This looks like a really good case, but 673 00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:12.719 I don't like the fact that it takes the eighteen six fifty rather than the 674 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:19.199 three thousand million hour pillow battery life po pillow or whatever Steve called it. 675 00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:25.760 But I mean it again. It has a good it has a nice window 676 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.800 there for the oh right here, it has a nice window here. It's 677 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.599 got an external SMA antenna. If we take this apart real quick, and 678 00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:37.880 I just got this thing then the other day, so I haven't put anything 679 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.760 in it yet obviously, but it's very tight to get open, which is 680 00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.679 good. You don't want it falling apart when you're using it. Pull this 681 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.159 out, you have any luck with that T deck. I haven't even messed 682 00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.239 with it yet. Man, I've got it if it's sitting right here on 683 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.840 the desk, but I haven't even messed with it yet. I would have 684 00:46:54.920 --> 00:47:02.719 messed with mine if if you would have remembered. Uh. So this one 685 00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:07.000 comes with an eighteen six fifty battery holder, but it's got bare ends on 686 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.320 it, so you've got to put your own connector or solder it to a 687 00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.920 battery or something like that. Well, you got to put a connector on 688 00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:16.480 it and connect it to the uh to the hell tech board as which so 689 00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:20.159 it's it's easy, but it's an extra step that you didn't have to do 690 00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.719 with the other case. And yeah, and I like the other I like 691 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.960 the other battery better than this battery. Again, that's my own personal experience. 692 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.719 So I will build this thing just because I went ahead and bought it. 693 00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:30.280 And I'm like, well, I'll go ahead and build it. But 694 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.079 I like, uh, which, what did you share here, Steve? 695 00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.840 That's the uh the moozy dot works case that I was showing. Okay, 696 00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:42.679 that's a cool one. The one that I shared has a bunch of extra 697 00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.039 components in it. Was you sure what Steve? You were talking to? 698 00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:50.519 Uh? T O, Steve? Which one did? Where did you share 699 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:52.519 that? Right in the chat? In the chat? Yeah? Okay, 700 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.519 Yeah. See printable printables there's a lot if you. In fact, if 701 00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:04.159 you go search Amazon or uh eBay for mesh Tastic hell Tech v three case, 702 00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:08.199 you'll find a dozen people on all the websites making these. Search printables, 703 00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:14.039 search Etsy, I mean the thing thing verse. Yeah, they're easy 704 00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:16.039 to find. I like that one too. That's a neat looking one. 705 00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:19.320 Is that that one you were just holding up? Yeah. And the way 706 00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.639 that he's got this thing three D printed. He picks some really good materials 707 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:24.599 and I like the fact that it's multi colored. So he's got red buttons, 708 00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:30.960 green case, gray background. Yeah, three D printer filament isn't like 709 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.760 a solid color, it's kind of yeah, Steve's got one. I don't 710 00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.360 know how to describe it, but it's a little speckiley, it's a little 711 00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:43.199 it's yeah, it's not just one color. Green is probably, I mean, 712 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.039 it looks a little fibrous. But he also, like the guy knows 713 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.679 how to print too, So this is this is face down on the bed, 714 00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.840 and then this is also face down on the bed. So you know, 715 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:53.840 you don't you don't have the striation look to it that a lot of 716 00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:58.880 three D prints have. So it's a it's a it's a respectable print job. 717 00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.400 And is that that's the pillow battery inside of that? Uh? Yeah, 718 00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:07.440 okay, it's gotta be it. Did it come with a battery? 719 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.199 Then? Yeah, So if you look though, seventy five dollars one, 720 00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:13.239 the one you're showing is a full kit and you can get it in a 721 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.800 couple of different colors. So it's the full kit with the battery, the 722 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.719 case, the hell tech board, the Bettery antenna because this is a you 723 00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:23.800 know, slightly better antenna than the little what it comes with. Yeah, 724 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:29.119 okay, hmm, okay, cool, I may order one of those tonight. 725 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:31.920 Then I got I ordered a couple of cases off of eBay, and 726 00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:34.760 then I got the box in. I was like, oh, cool, 727 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.440 I'll talk and I put him somewhere in my house and I can't find them 728 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:37.960 now. I don't know where they are. I don't think you can add 729 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:42.519 GPS to this case, but I haven't opened it yet. You know, 730 00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:44.840 it's one of those things I still have to play with because there's only a 731 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.199 thousand things to play with in radio, right, Yeah, yeah, totally, 732 00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:54.599 totally. Okay. So I kind of had a question Steve and the 733 00:49:55.199 --> 00:50:00.400 our awesome M seventeen. Steve, you said, you put your is on 734 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:05.360 the handband. What advantages are you going to get out of that doing that? 735 00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.360 Well, you got a frequency that's a little bit lower than nine one 736 00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:15.360 five, so it's going to carry a little bit longer, it's going to 737 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:20.000 be less congested. It won't have you know, just everybody on it. 738 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:25.320 It'll have just licensed ham radio operators on it. It's easier to find UH 739 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:30.440 antenna's. You may already have a you know, four thirty three mega Hurts 740 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:34.280 antenna, you know, the the little rubber duck antenna that Steve has. 741 00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:37.679 You know, it's it's difficult to find those, like even even the ones 742 00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:40.800 that I get are are like those Wi Fi style ones like this. You 743 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:45.480 know, it's you know, just a little stick antenna. So it's easier 744 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:52.039 for you to find antenna's like this antenna. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 745 00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:59.320 The the other advantages also, you have full fifteen hundred watts of power that 746 00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:04.440 you can do it, although spread spectrum I believe is limited to ten I 747 00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:08.000 think spread spectrum is limited to ten watts on MTURE radio now. But so 748 00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:12.559 when you say you say Ham radio frequencies, are you talking about in the 749 00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.719 nine hundred band? No, I'm talking for four okay, yeah, seventy 750 00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:20.360 yeah, yeah, because I mean because we have privileges from nine o two 751 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.760 to nine thirty seven twenty eight something like that. Was it? Is it 752 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:27.480 twenty eight? I think it's yeah, yeah, nine two nine twenty eight, 753 00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:29.920 that's right, yeah, nine two nine twenty eight. Because we have 754 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:32.840 some nine hundred megahers repeaters here in this area that are beyond you know, 755 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.760 and you can you can amplify that too. But again, spread spectrum I 756 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:43.039 think is still limited to ten watts. Something like that. Even so you're 757 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.840 gonna be able to take you know, as a ham radio operator, you'll 758 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:49.840 be able to take a transmitter, whether it be you know, you know, 759 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:53.079 thirty thirty three centimeters or seventy centimeters, you'll be able to put an 760 00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:57.079 amplifier on it. So even though these men may only put out, like 761 00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:01.400 I think maximum thirty dB, you know, you can amplify that up and 762 00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.920 and really get that signal out. So how many watts is it on the 763 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:12.880 commercial bands first spread spectrum, I'm not sure. I'm just wandering out of 764 00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.519 the box whatever you're going to get out of the oh, out of the 765 00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:21.719 box, like on on these fifty, I think they're twenty seven dB. 766 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.320 Okay, so I think at maximum, I think they're twenty seven DV. 767 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:28.960 The rack wireless ones, I used to know it off the top of my 768 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:32.719 head because I built like five of them, But I've been trying to plug 769 00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:38.599 them into amplifiers as well, so I don't really what it is. What 770 00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:42.239 my effect, what you put your call sign in, you can yeah, 771 00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:46.199 yeah, yeah, But pugging into an amplifier on the nine hundred makerhurts man, 772 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:50.639 you're gonna that means they're gonna be yelling out there, but no one 773 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:57.199 else is going to be able to answer. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, 774 00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:59.960 it's one of those rules where, you know, big ears rather than a 775 00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:01.000 big mouth kind of thing. You know, you want to make sure that 776 00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:06.760 you're able to hear more than you can speak. So but if you're if 777 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.320 you're in like where you know you're going to have good line of sight for 778 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:15.920 a significant amount of you know, mileage, you know those those even a 779 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:21.119 even like a Yagi antenna would get you out pretty pretty far with uh you 780 00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:27.280 know Laura mm hm for sure. And and these things that I'm talking about 781 00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:35.239 are completely hypothetical and experimental. Laura is really designed to be able to be 782 00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:40.440 decoded underneath the noise level. So when you're ranking out this power, you 783 00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:45.599 are defeating the whole purpose of Laura. You know. Yeah, this is 784 00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:53.440 good as Ham's. We're used to disrupt things. Yeah, it's all experimentation 785 00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:57.480 and hypothetical stuff. You know. I'm not I'm not saying that people should 786 00:53:57.519 --> 00:53:59.960 go out and do this. It's just that I'm doing it because I can't 787 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:02.440 and I feel like I want to. Yeah, it's not illegal at all, 788 00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:06.679 it's just not within the spirit of of Laura. It's kind of like 789 00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:13.159 doing FT eight at fifteen hundred wants. Yeah, it's not illegal. It's 790 00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:15.519 not illegal, and it pisses off the guys on QAZ, so that makes 791 00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:20.840 it even more fun. I agree, yes, yeah, yeah, so 792 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:22.880 you're you're just double whemmy. You know, there's no reason not to do 793 00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:29.119 it, you know, as some people would say. But yeah, awesome. 794 00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:30.880 Okay. So people were asking for links in the chat. I don't 795 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:36.920 know. Somebody asked for uh what was what did they say? We put 796 00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:37.880 a bunch of links in the chat. There was a bunch of links in 797 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.800 the chat, all of the links that we there it is. Greg Meta 798 00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.519 asked, can you please post a link to the spec case that was mentioned 799 00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:47.679 earlier? So, Greg, I don't know which case you're talking about, 800 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:52.360 got that. It's it's it's the Spec five case here I got. Okay, 801 00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:53.679 okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, So I will, 802 00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:57.880 yeah, Robert, you should be able to post that in the chat if 803 00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:01.239 you would, I will here, okay. I will also post all of 804 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.840 these links in the description once the live stream is over, so you guys 805 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.199 can go back and look at that and find that if you want a quick 806 00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:14.039 easy cheat seat. Here's a link to Jason's mess Tactic storefront, and that 807 00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.320 has a lot of things in there already. And I've had I've had somebody 808 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:20.639 mentioned tam you earlier as well. I was I was poking around on Team 809 00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:23.320 you earlier in the week and and I ordered a few things from them as 810 00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:30.119 well. So whatever website you like to shop on, Amazon, eBay, 811 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:35.760 Ali Express, Ali Baba, Team whatever, Okay, Thing Verse, whatever, 812 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:39.760 just go search for meshitastic. You might be I have been surprised by 813 00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.719 the number of things that I found out there. I was like, oh, 814 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.000 holy crap, there's a bunch of stuff all over this website. So 815 00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:49.760 I'm trying to put all this stuff in the Amazon. But there's a lot 816 00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:52.480 more stuff out there you can get besides just the stuff on Amazon. So 817 00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:57.039 the Amazon's a great place to buy batteries and antennas and those hell techs. 818 00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.239 But if you want anything specialty like that, I mean, you can find 819 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:01.960 stuff everywhere. Just go search any website for mesh tastic. You might be 820 00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:07.960 surprised. The other thing, too, I think is worth mentioning. It 821 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:12.679 sounds like we've got a lot of folks that are just getting introduced to mesh 822 00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:19.480 tastic is. Their website is really good. It's got a lot of web 823 00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:25.000 based tools that don't require you to download anything to your laptop. They do 824 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:30.880 want you to be running Chrome. That's the only downside, but you can 825 00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:35.480 connect to your device, you can down or you can update it, update 826 00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:39.480 the firmware through their tools. There's a console that you can connect to and 827 00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:47.039 see what's going on at the command line. Really really well done. Yes, 828 00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:53.599 yeah, agreed. Are you guys. Are you guys seeing that link 829 00:56:53.800 --> 00:57:00.679 that I'm posting? I don't know if I'm getting Are you blue? Got 830 00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:04.679 yes? Back five cellar on Ebaykay? Yes, yeah, yeah, Okay. 831 00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.320 I saw somebody asking me to post it and I had already posted it, 832 00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:13.239 so I just went I did put it out there a couple more times. 833 00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:15.519 Yeah, I see it. They fly by on this chat. There's 834 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:22.400 a lot of people watching, right, Yeah. But I just updated my 835 00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:28.239 radio to what is it two dot three dot ten? I think was a 836 00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:32.159 new stable release that just came out, is it? Okay? I haven't 837 00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.000 uh, you know, I haven't messed with mine at all since since we 838 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:40.719 were all in Dayton, tinkering around with all those and we's they degraded that 839 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:46.239 one, so I downgraded mine from that one they redacted, and then I 840 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:50.719 haven't looked at it since then. So I'll go and I guess the good 841 00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.440 party. You know, sometimes with Arden nodes, if you get too many 842 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:59.119 pieces to if you get nodes with different firmware, they won't talk to one 843 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:00.920 another anymore. Don't think it's just one or two. I think it has 844 00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:05.480 to be several outs. So I'm curious to see how meschtastic works if it's 845 00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:09.079 if they're like five or ten firmware versions away from one another. Ardend, 846 00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:14.119 you got to match the majors. I don't think the miners, No, 847 00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:16.159 daily, the daily ones, you don't have to do the major. Yeah, 848 00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:22.320 you got to match the majors. And then did we address this is 849 00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:29.039 there with Arden? All right? I'm sorry with with this all these mess 850 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:37.519 Tastic nodes. Is it actively trying to ping like Wi Fi is, so 851 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.840 when you're not connected to a Wi Fi node, your computer is constantly cycling. 852 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:44.119 It's this guy here, is this guy here, is this guy here? 853 00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:45.719 Is this guy here? This guy here? And then it'll loop back 854 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:49.760 to the top. And that's how some of these attacks kind of happen. 855 00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:54.760 It's just looping through all your saved Wi Fi networks. Is these mess tactic 856 00:58:54.840 --> 00:59:00.800 nodes when they see node A B C D and a note a B walks 857 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:02.679 away out of the range, are they trying to actively find those nodes? 858 00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:07.639 Are they still kind of listening and only to interact with the ones that they're 859 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:13.199 only actively seeing at this moment in time. Yeah, Frank, and I 860 00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:15.039 ask you, Yeah, I don't know either. We were talking about that 861 00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:23.360 before because I was I was wondering about well, battery life, but we 862 00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:27.519 were talking about battery life, but also talking about the fact that they hang 863 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.840 on to the Once you see a node in the list, it apparently it 864 00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:36.440 stays there forever. So is it looking for those nodes or looking for, 865 00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:40.199 you know, something else, or just actively pinging? Or I don't think 866 00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:44.679 that. I don't think that's the way that meshing works, but I'm not 867 00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:47.159 one hundred percent sure. That'd be a good question. Uh. The other 868 00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:50.639 thing I wanted to mention about the batteries, right, I had asked you, 869 00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:54.119 Jason, was that your experience at Dayton or at home? Because I'm 870 00:59:54.159 --> 01:00:00.239 getting about two days on this eighteen six point fifty here at home, but 871 01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:05.519 there's not any activity right, so it's it's just kind of coasting. But 872 01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:09.000 when we were in Dayton, these things were getting hammered. Yes, true, 873 01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:14.199 I I have that my t beam. The only TBAM I have active 874 01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:16.960 right now is the one in my truck, And if I don't charge it 875 01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:23.360 every day, it'll be if I unplug it from the USB in my truck 876 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:29.599 right now, by this time tomorrow, it'll be dead. So I don't 877 01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:31.400 know if maybe maybe you got a weak battery, and maybe I got a 878 01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:35.719 weak battery, And that's very possible. It's very possible. It's that eighteen 879 01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:38.920 six fifty. I might need a better, better brand or something. But 880 01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:43.719 but my, but like this guy right here, I didn't use these for 881 01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:49.199 several days after we got home from Dayton. And I mean not that one 882 01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:51.880 sat with no activity. That one sat on my dresser and was on for 883 01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:55.760 two or three days with not not getting hammered. So so my I mean, 884 01:00:55.760 --> 01:01:00.519 my experience has been that those pillow batteries last longer than the eighteen But 885 01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:02.880 of course, you know there's probably good and bad version of eighteen six fifty 886 01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:06.159 out there. There's so many of them. You never know for sure, 887 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:13.360 for sure. But that's well I think too, you know, whether or 888 01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:16.719 not you've got a GPS, right, because that GPS is constantly yes, 889 01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:22.159 you know, reaching out, Yes, those satellites, So that's another factor. 890 01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:24.360 Well, my and my TVAM in the truck is running GPS, so 891 01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:28.400 it's always yeah, it's it's always on there. But yeah, totally, 892 01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:34.800 it's very true. But yeah, I mean for for twenty five bucks, 893 01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:37.320 you can get two of those hell techs. Yeah, and I mean you 894 01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.760 can just tag yourself a lot of fun for twenty five bucks. I know 895 01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:45.880 it. Yeah, yep, I agree, Yeah, get them all pre 896 01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:52.440 programmed, and I just yeah, I I think that. Yeah, I 897 01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:53.880 really like my t beam. I've got two or three more of them that 898 01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:57.960 I want to set up. I've got this t deck here. This looks 899 01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.199 like a BlackBerry. Bill was running one of these at the MORE Expo and 900 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:05.119 he met he met two or three people at the MORE Expo and they're like, 901 01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:07.639 hey, you know, I'm over here by the whatever booth this is, 902 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:09.719 and he's over they're talking to people. He's like, they met on 903 01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:14.079 mestastic at a freaking overland showed. I'm like that was pretty cool. I 904 01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:15.719 was like I like to see that. That was fun. So we're gonna 905 01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:19.559 have to take this. So that's why I want to take these to uh 906 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.519 to not only amkon Zion, but I'm going to take these to the National 907 01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.000 Part Yellowstone. I might even I might even bring like my I might bring 908 01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:31.480 my fifty foot mask again and put my rack up the tell you like, 909 01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:35.360 anytime I go somewhere, I just bring it along with me. Now, 910 01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:37.480 yeah, you know, I haven't you know, hooked onto my bag or 911 01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:39.880 I just throw it in the truck, right because I'm just curious. It's 912 01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:45.320 it's like war driving right now, now back to war driving, right Yeah. 913 01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:46.960 And there was there was a I don't I don't remember the gentleman's name, 914 01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:51.360 but he I've talked to him several times before. He was at Belton 915 01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:55.239 last March or April whenever that was that, this last Belton we have and 916 01:02:55.280 --> 01:03:00.159 he was running Mestastic out there, and he he said there was probably five 917 01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:04.559 or six or seven people at the Beltingham Expo running Meshtastic. And I'm like, 918 01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:07.800 okay, so the next time I go to a public gathering of some 919 01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:09.199 sort, I'm gonna take my node with me and see what I can find. 920 01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:14.519 There are random people flying overhead. I'm not talking about the airport when 921 01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:19.400 I'm at work. I mean just overhead. They're playing with it in the 922 01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:27.960 airplane. They I'm not there, yeah right, yeah, I'm on the 923 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.079 ground. They see my node and they go, hey, like so and 924 01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:34.280 so on and so on. So thirty seven thousand feet yeah, I think 925 01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:38.800 tube and so there are people that are using them. And I'm I mean, 926 01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:45.000 I'm right here at home. People flying overhead see my node and and 927 01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:50.039 I have that's RF man. I think that's what's cool about it. Well, 928 01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:53.079 that's it. You know. I saw those nodes in Weatherford, so 929 01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:58.199 I just dropped the I said, hey, you know, just just throw 930 01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:01.800 something out there. Now, I wasn't I was driving through, so I'm 931 01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:05.559 sure they they're like, who heck is this guy? Right? Yeah, 932 01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:09.880 Bill, Next time you fly out, this is what you need to do. 933 01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:15.159 If you're on flight. This is your captain speaking. Just turn off 934 01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:21.440 your metastic news no doubt. BT Cullen is asking, does the Spec five 935 01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:28.760 case only fit the Lilygo TBAM V one dot two. Laura, So it's 936 01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.400 I mean it is for the T beam now. Now, Spec five is 937 01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:38.480 the name of the dude's company. Right, he's he's down in uh Austin, 938 01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:43.119 So he's local here in Texas, right, I mean everything's local in 939 01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:45.159 Texas, right. It doesn't matter if you're San Antonio or whatever. We 940 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:49.159 say, it's local. So he's local to Texas. And he has a 941 01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:58.880 number of other designs for other devices on his et SE page. But that 942 01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:03.199 that that case is for the T beam. It's not the T beam extreme, 943 01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:09.320 right, that's the one that has the antenna connection on the end of 944 01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:12.639 it or out the top of it. You don't want, right, that's 945 01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:15.599 not Yeah, there you go. There's a T beam extreme. Steve's got 946 01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:19.559 one on the on the screen there. That radio won't work in that case. 947 01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:25.480 You want to make sure it's just the original T beam with the SMA 948 01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:30.400 out the side, yeah, or the top. Really, if you're looking 949 01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:35.679 at the screen, it comes out the top. No, it's out the 950 01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:43.360 side. The T beam. My T beam has has the SMA on the 951 01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:45.119 top. If I'm looking at the if I don't have it in the case 952 01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:49.320 at all, I'm looking at the screen and it's on the top. It's 953 01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:53.760 on the wide side, not on the narrow side. Right, right, 954 01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:58.400 correct, extreme comes out side. Yes, yes, Robert, send me 955 01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:02.280 the link for that case. Man, that is very cool. I'll send 956 01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:08.199 it over to you. And also tonight I'm on it. Your t deck 957 01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:16.159 case is getting started tonight. I saw embarrassed. That's all right, that's 958 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:18.800 all right. I got a teasy about it though, But yeah, you 959 01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:25.639 know what, sometimes I forget names and it takes the second time being embarrassed 960 01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:30.679 for me to go it's in there. Yeah, that's all right, because 961 01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:38.800 I hey, I deserve it. Steve's on there with two lightsabers. Just 962 01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:43.559 just wait, I got to open it up for you, right right, 963 01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:51.199 totally. But yeah, so I saw Sterling was in there earlier. He's 964 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:54.840 like, I'm late. So I'm watching it two to three time speed, 965 01:06:55.199 --> 01:07:00.000 trying to and I'm like, hey, did you catch up yet? So 966 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:02.239 so yeah, so I've got it. I've got it. I'm gonna put 967 01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:06.519 together video about what this uh this does right here, and I'm gonna put 968 01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:11.079 it up. And yeah, I think you're right about the about the solar 969 01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:15.079 panel. So may just have to I have to figure out where I can 970 01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:21.239 get a three vault panel. I guess seven that's a battery. Remember that 971 01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:27.800 five five volts it's USB C three to five. But anyway, five volts 972 01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:31.400 you want a seven volt panel to go because they have a solar Those racks 973 01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:38.440 have a solar charge controller built in the Okay, yes they do. So 974 01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:46.039 you plugged seven volts from a solar panel into that rack and a little bit 975 01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:50.719 bigger Wow did you build that, Steve? Uh? Yeah? So I 976 01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:55.280 is that the four forty one? This is uh no, this is actually 977 01:07:55.320 --> 01:08:00.719 nine fifteen okay, but that's a rack uh yeah, nineteen double o seven 978 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:05.000 double nine something like that. But it's the rack four point thirty one and 979 01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:10.800 an Ethernet module and it gets power over Ethernet. Underneath my plate that I 980 01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:15.559 printed out, that's got a POE splitter, so it provides five volts into 981 01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:20.680 the device as well as the battery gets charged. So that battery gets charged 982 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:24.760 off the rack. So if it ever loses power, it's still a router 983 01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:29.399 and client, so it'll still pass and receive messages even if it does lose 984 01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:33.159 POE off of the wire here, So why do you have two antennas on 985 01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:39.399 it? One is the Bluetooth, This one is Bluetooth, and this one's 986 01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:44.000 nine to fifteen. Wow, big Bluetooth antenna. Well, it's also supposed 987 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:45.439 to go up on top of a tower, so you know, I want 988 01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:49.399 to make sure that BLI has a good signal down. That's pretty cool. 989 01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:56.159 That's pretty cool, very nice, And get you get get you to send 990 01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:58.880 me a list and then we'll get on another live stream, Steven build that. 991 01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.560 Good luck trying to find these cases. Yeah, you know what, 992 01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:10.239 any weather proof case would work. Yeah, I designed the plate specifically for 993 01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:13.199 this case. Oh, I see, I see, okay, okay, 994 01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:17.319 so it's a rather unique mountings. Well you were saying about who was it? 995 01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:20.840 It was t O. I think you were saying about or no Bill, 996 01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:25.760 it was Bill saying about the three volt or the seven volt solar panel. 997 01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:30.239 This. Yeah, that's what that That reminded me. These things can 998 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:34.640 power via USB C and your bioin os have USB output, so you could 999 01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:40.159 totally hook a bioin with this and just hook and plug it into USB and 1000 01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:43.920 let it go that way. So I think that would I think that would 1001 01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:48.520 probably work because you can you can charge your phone directly from a biolinal panel 1002 01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:54.359 with a USB output. Oh, biol panel said, because I like my 1003 01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:58.439 bio No, no, no bio And yeah, there they make a twenty 1004 01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:01.039 eight watt and a forty what mini fold up panel. They make some bigger 1005 01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:04.079 ones, obviously, but I've got one of their forty watt mini light forty 1006 01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:08.359 I think they call it a forty light. It's a forty watt panel. 1007 01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:12.479 It's it's about probably ten inches long, but then it folds out to like 1008 01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:15.800 four or five panels wide or tall. I should say. They make a 1009 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:18.199 twenty eight watt it's like three panels, and make a forty white it's like 1010 01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:23.279 five panels, and and it has USB output. And I hang that on 1011 01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:26.600 the side of the of the deer blind when I'm sitting in the deer Lease 1012 01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:30.159 and I plug my phone into it. It's perfect for that. It's it's 1013 01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:32.640 kind of like they it's kind of like the Lightsaber Max from Power Film, 1014 01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:38.039 but it doesn't have its own built in battery and it's much much less expensive, 1015 01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:42.520 So it's it's a neat It's a neat panel that you can You can 1016 01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:45.359 do that, or you could get one of the Denco batteries that has the 1017 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.239 USBA port on it and plug in a bio Wino to the Denco and the 1018 01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:55.319 Denco USBA out to the helltech that would do it too. So there's ways 1019 01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:57.039 around it. Where where there's a hand, there's a way, right, 1020 01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:01.359 there's ways around that. But but yeah, I will look at putting a 1021 01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:05.239 different panel on this one. And I'm already looking at what's his name, 1022 01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:09.199 Garth, he's got the ones with I don't remember seeing those ones with the 1023 01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:12.079 bigger panel when I bought this one. But now this one's not available for 1024 01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:14.600 sale on his website anymore. So I'm like, I should have waited, 1025 01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:17.079 I guess. But that's okay. It's it'll be fun to experiment with all 1026 01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:23.680 these Well, that's the other thing that's so cool, right, they're they're 1027 01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:28.399 relatively inexpensive, right, They're like the cheapest thing you're gonna buy in radio, 1028 01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:30.840 right. I mean, so you can buy a few of these things. 1029 01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.119 You can play around with them, you can see which ones you like. 1030 01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:36.479 You can you know, if you screw some up, no big deal, 1031 01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:42.079 right, you can buy some for your buddies. And since you don't 1032 01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:46.399 need a license, your buddies can play along with you too. Yeah. 1033 01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:53.600 Maybe maybe it's the uh the hook right that gets some interested. Why can't 1034 01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:55.720 I hear you? Because you ain't got a license? Son. You can't 1035 01:11:55.960 --> 01:12:02.399 can't transmit no power. It don't work unless you got power. Yo Bozo 1036 01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:06.039 from Back to the Future. Back to the Future too, Yeah, Back 1037 01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:11.439 to the Future two. I got it the Yeah. In fact, I 1038 01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:14.880 want to put one up at the deer Lease and put it on the fifty 1039 01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:18.119 foot mast at the deer Lease and let it run during hunting season, and 1040 01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:21.479 then get a couple of the guys to get one, because those guys are 1041 01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:26.239 all well, a couple of those guys have like Sprint, and I'm like, 1042 01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:30.239 why it's twenty twenty four, why do you have sprint? But and 1043 01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.960 they can't. They can't get they can't get serviced at certain parts of the 1044 01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:38.399 hunting lease. And then they bought some FRS. Ratio was one year and 1045 01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:41.640 over the hill you can't get You can't hear the FRS radio through the trees 1046 01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:43.840 and over the hill. It's not that big of a place. It's one 1047 01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:46.119 hundred and seventy five acres. It's not that large. So I told them 1048 01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:53.600 they should get their GMRS license. Last year nobody did, but maybe I'll 1049 01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:56.520 try this license. We just need to buy that radio, you know, 1050 01:12:57.039 --> 01:13:01.720 right, we're gonna use it an FRS milde A right, sure, but 1051 01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:06.119 well cool, I'm I'm looking forward to trying more with this. This is 1052 01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:13.079 just kind of a tip of the iceberg. I got this company called Ella 1053 01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:17.720 Crow. Yep, Ella Crow. They sent me one of their go on 1054 01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:23.760 top of a pie five kits, so I'm gonna be building that on a 1055 01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:27.800 on a on a video soon. I'm gonna do this T deck. Bill 1056 01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:30.960 Bill was kind of enough to build me a case for this T deck right 1057 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:34.560 here, and uh so I'm gonna put together the T deck and have a 1058 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:41.800 little BlackBerry carry yeah yeah, Bill Bill printed deck for me. So yeah, 1059 01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.479 I had a little wolf on the back or cat or whatever there. 1060 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:46.880 Yeah, so I don't I'm not a cat guy. I'm a dog guy. 1061 01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:50.680 So that's a wolf, That's what I'm gonna call it. But yeah, 1062 01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:54.479 So so I got two or three different ones I'm gonna do videos on. 1063 01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:57.720 But I'm looking forward to seeing what works, how they work that kind 1064 01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:01.119 of thing, and uh and go from there. So I appreciate you guys 1065 01:14:01.279 --> 01:14:05.000 coming on tonight just kind of discussing this because I was one some of the 1066 01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:08.720 questions that I personally had that I brought up at the beginning of the stream. 1067 01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:11.359 I was wondering if you guys had and and most of you were like, 1068 01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:14.000 oh yeah, that's yeah, that's this, this and this. These 1069 01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:16.520 batteries last as long or they don't drop off or you know, you still 1070 01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:20.800 see in the whole list from Dayton that kind of thing. So it's a 1071 01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:25.000 learning experience. I for me, it's like, oh, well, you 1072 01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:27.800 should read the manual before you do. No, no, just jump in 1073 01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:31.199 with both both feet and figure it out, because that's that's half the fun 1074 01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.479 of it is, just trying to figure out how it all work whatnot. 1075 01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:41.279 So I like it that way. Uh okay, So it's eight fifteen and 1076 01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:44.880 I think that's good. I appreciate you guys. Robert. Did you premiere 1077 01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:48.359 your video yet? Is it? I'm actually going to do it right after 1078 01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:55.039 the stream, so when the stream ends, if if you all haven't got 1079 01:14:55.159 --> 01:14:59.520 enough mess Tastic in your life, I've got a I don't know. It's 1080 01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:04.199 a seven eight minute video that talks a little bit about what I saw with 1081 01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:10.560 mesh Tastic, and it talks a little bit about that case that I just 1082 01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:15.399 showed off. Do you have a link? Oh yeah, I guess I 1083 01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:19.159 could do that. Yeah, share the link in the chat. That would 1084 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:25.399 be the smart thing to do. We're waiting. Come on now, hundreds 1085 01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:30.640 of us are waiting, t When are you coming back to Texas. I 1086 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:33.079 don't know. I spent a lot of time in Texas last year and the 1087 01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:38.479 beginning of this year already. So we're going to well, you technically live 1088 01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:43.079 here, I do. We're going to Utah and for hamcong Zion. Then 1089 01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:46.359 we're going out to Yellowstone and then I have no idea where I'm going after 1090 01:15:46.399 --> 01:15:49.960 that. Well, we'll see you in Utah in about a month, for 1091 01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:56.319 sure, a month and a half something like that. So about at the 1092 01:15:56.399 --> 01:15:59.560 end of this month, my wife and I are going to Alaska. We're 1093 01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:02.359 gonna fly to Anchorage, spend the night, get on a cruise the next 1094 01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:11.399 day seven day crews that ends up in Vancouver. And then that's also field 1095 01:16:11.479 --> 01:16:15.640 Day. No, it's the weekend. It's it's like the Wednesday after field 1096 01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:19.880 Day. So yeah, so field Day Alaska, come back at home for 1097 01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:26.239 two or three days, and then drive at Utah. So I will have 1098 01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:30.880 my meshitastic with me during that whole I'm gonna take I'm gonna take So Josh 1099 01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.399 and Adam did that whole one pound PoTA pac thing, and leaving aside the 1100 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:40.800 fact that I'm going to do a in vehicle one hundred and fifty pound PoTA 1101 01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:42.960 pack, it's like, hey, one pound, that's great, let's do 1102 01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:45.560 the one hundred and fifty pound. I'm gonna pack everything in the truck and 1103 01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:46.800 take it to Photo but I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna pack a 1104 01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:49.920 I'm gonna pack something similar to that, and I'm gonna take it to Alaska. 1105 01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:53.960 And I want to activate Alaska when I'm up there, because i want 1106 01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:57.159 to activate a park in every all fifty states. It's my personal goal. 1107 01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:00.520 And those two guys that were from Alaska that were at him mention that we're 1108 01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:02.640 hanging out at our campsite with us, they were like, the propagation up 1109 01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:05.319 there is weird. Give yourself a few hours. I told my wife that, 1110 01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:08.640 She's like, well, I think we can do that here and here 1111 01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:12.800 and here. So fingers crossed. You guys, stay in Discord, stay 1112 01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.640 on the PODA website, and if I have to do FT eight to activate 1113 01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:17.840 it, that's fine. I'll just do ten contacts on FD eight. I 1114 01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:23.960 have no problem with that. So I'm going to try my darndest to activate 1115 01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:28.119 a national park in Alaska when we're there at the end of this month. 1116 01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:32.479 So what is it? Stroke KL seven I think so yeah, I'll get 1117 01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:40.399 you K seven yeah, yeah, yeah, TOTALLYWB stroke KL seven yeah yeah, 1118 01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:44.159 that would do it. That would do it. So I will certainly 1119 01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:49.439 try that. But cruise lines don't allow radios. But you may have a 1120 01:17:49.520 --> 01:17:54.760 chance. Well, I'm taking it before the cruise and then I'm packing take 1121 01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:58.880 it on the cruise. Can use it on the cruise, right, you 1122 01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:01.199 can? You can take it. You can technically contact the captain and get 1123 01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:05.520 permission to use it while you're on the boat, supposedly, And I mean 1124 01:18:05.560 --> 01:18:08.880 some cruise lines say that. I don't. I'm just gonna leave it in 1125 01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:14.880 my bag, just not gonna hamlerts. Yes, absolutely true. Yeah, 1126 01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:16.800 we'll have We'll have several live streams between now and then, so this is 1127 01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:20.800 not the last live stream we'll do before that trip. But be thinking about 1128 01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:25.239 that and try to work me on on FT eight ors. I'm gonna try 1129 01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:27.800 to do some sideband. I'd love to make a few side band contacts, 1130 01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:31.159 but man, really want to really want to activate Alaska when we're there at 1131 01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:34.800 the end of this month. So but but I look forward to taking my 1132 01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:38.640 mesh Tastic also and see what I can do with that, so it'd be 1133 01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:41.880 fun. But yeah, So you guys that are coming to Yellowstone bring a 1134 01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:44.920 bring a Meshtastic node with you. Yep, we will, uh, we 1135 01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:48.359 will totally make that happen. So cool man. Uh okay, So y'all 1136 01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:53.640 go check out Rob's link. He just shared the chat and uh, I'm 1137 01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:56.840 gonna go up there and hang out in the Are you premiering that I am? 1138 01:18:57.399 --> 01:19:02.279 Yep? Okay, okay, yours in like three minutes, three minutes, 1139 01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:05.399 okay, make it. I was guessing. I was guessing that's that's 1140 01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:10.680 cool, that's cool. Make it quick, Frank, Okay, I hit 1141 01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:15.680 five thousand. Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you. I 1142 01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:20.159 have teamed up with Gigaparts. Gigaparts next Sunday, six pm Central time, 1143 01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:25.359 we're gonna be doing a giveaway and we got some cool things. So we're 1144 01:19:25.399 --> 01:19:30.039 gonna do a cigar social six pm before Jason stream. I'm gonna get sloshed 1145 01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:32.359 then come over and attempt to do something on his stream. We're gonna have 1146 01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:41.600 fun and that that that's about it. Okay, cool. Look forward to 1147 01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:44.600 it. Frank, I shared your the link to your announcement video in my 1148 01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:47.560 email blast today. Oh thank you. I appreciate that. Are you on 1149 01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:53.560 my email list? Yeah, but okay, they're all filtered to a special 1150 01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:57.920 focus that gets unmarked and read. And because I signed up like four times, 1151 01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:01.439 say that list out. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, we're gonna 1152 01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:04.880 have some Funzzo, I already sent you a text message about it, and 1153 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:11.720 Jason you're invited, and Rob You're You're invited, and we're just gonna be 1154 01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:16.159 smoking cigars. Anyone else wants to hang out? All right, fine, 1155 01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:20.840 Yeah, we'll do our own stream. Don't worry about him. Right to 1156 01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:25.560 gars cigars. We're gonna have some fun. Hopefully the weather is crop right 1157 01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:29.079 so I could be outside to do this. Yeah, Bill, Bill will 1158 01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:33.039 get on there is smoke a cigar with his bet so seventy thirty thousand feet 1159 01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:36.880 whichever. All right, seventy three guys go check out Rob's stream. I'm 1160 01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:40.960 gonna head over there myself. We'll have a good later