WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:07.719 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagon Zalaz on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:14.439 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat z 3 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:19.359 R two SA at iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome 4 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:22.879 to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, 5 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:27.399 He's Jagan Zawas. We have our guys sitting in today for two hours. 6 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:30.600 What keeps you up at night? Jay? What kissed me up at 7 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:37.200 night having to go to the bathroom? Well, besides that, I'm in 8 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:40.920 the same boat. Did I hate getting out of it? Eh? I 9 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:43.640 don't know. I mean I got I got all kinds of things swirling in 10 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:46.799 my head at night. Yes. The reason why I ask is this morning 11 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.359 I got up I at two ten, two fifteen, and I just couldn't 12 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:52.560 go back to bed, so I got on you know the stupid thing they 13 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.039 do, get on the phone, to get on the phone and go through 14 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:57.719 stings and social blah blah blah. And then I said, then I read 15 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:03.759 France for Schella talking about talking about nil and it reminded me of my our 16 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:08.920 conversation with the idea yesterday. Coaches are gonna have to coach now, especially 17 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:12.280 at this level, and not they didn't do it before, but the best 18 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:15.439 players, they're not gonna get them, not if they don't have a cash 19 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:22.319 cow somewhere deep. And it became I do this before. I'm very well 20 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:27.280 aware now given Arizona situation at men and women right, because she really opened 21 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:30.599 my eyes. And now, if you're not gonna get the best players, 22 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:34.280 guess what you gotta do. You gotta coach up the ones you get. 23 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.719 You gotta coach up the ones that you get. That's what I just I 24 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:38.760 didn't wake up thinking about it. Well I saw them, and I'm thinking, 25 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.879 you know what, it could cost a lot of good coaches jobs. 26 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.879 But Steve in the sense that it's always been like that, right because Alabama 27 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:51.560 always got the better players because they were Alabama. Now now because they have 28 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:53.120 more money, now it's gonna be and you know, and the Dick Tomy's 29 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:57.000 of the world had to had to go get guys that they could coach up. 30 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:02.920 The big The big problem with that now is, though, is that 31 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:09.240 you get a guy or a girl, a woman player and if they're not 32 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:15.479 immediately satisfied or immediately see potential in the place that they are, they'll go 33 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:19.599 somewhere else. So that's the that's the rub on this thing. So in 34 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:25.280 that tweeter, twit twit tweeted, tweet tweet one of those words. Uh, 35 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:29.840 some guy came in, you know, the random the tweeter came in 36 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:30.960 and said, do you know how much they paid for Jordan Brown? You 37 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:35.879 remember him? Jordan Brown? Yeah, he went to you know where he's 38 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:39.439 at. You know where he went that He ended up like Alabama State or 39 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:46.360 something, Louis It moved to Memphis. This was his final stops last year. 40 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:50.800 Just one of those fringe players, blah blah blah. But he had 41 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:54.520 played it so well. Losing a penny hardway took him expecting right, Well, 42 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:58.080 he didn't play much because he had issues. I guess he left for 43 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:02.439 nine games unexplained reportedly, I want to say, definitely, reportedly, four 44 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:08.000 hundred thousand Jesus for a guy, for a guy that was mediocre at best. 45 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:13.080 You saw, I saw, yeah, yeah, I mean I remember 46 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:16.360 fans being kind of disappointed that he left, but certainly not heartbroken. And 47 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:20.759 do you remember the meeting with Tommy, Well, that's right, Tommy had 48 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:23.439 told him, you're the guy, and he transferred the next day, you're 49 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:28.479 the guy. And we you know, whatever he said we were in that 50 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:30.360 room, we were outside of And that's where this is going to get all 51 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:35.960 kind of crooked, Steve, because whereas before, you know, if you 52 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:43.840 misevaluated somebody, okay, it costs you a scholarship. But now you mis 53 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:47.360 evaluate somebody, it's going to cost you more several hundred thousand dollars that you 54 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:53.439 might have given to somebody who is good or who is uh, you know, 55 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:57.879 a good investment. And and there yes, there's so many more things 56 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:02.000 at stake now with all of this. And I saw somebody else you know, 57 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:05.960 this Facebook world, in the Twitter world. Uh well now it was 58 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:09.639 some guy says, now the alumbs are gonna have to step up and give 59 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:13.240 money and up. Actually, if you're a fan, you everybody's gonna everybody 60 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.160 has to everybody. We talked about this with the with the the collective. 61 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:20.639 Who's if you're gonna bitch about it on this thing that we call called the 62 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:25.000 World Wide Web, you might have to be you might have to help. 63 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:27.519 Well, that that's the thing, you know, Whereas before, you know, 64 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:30.319 people like me look, am I a big donor to the vein? 65 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:32.120 No, I get little bits, right. You know, I have a 66 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:35.959 I have a premium on my seat, and I, uh, you know, 67 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:40.279 my football ticket and you know things like that, Uh I buy. 68 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.839 I buy season tickets to football and anybody you know, my wife's got season 69 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.680 tickets to women's basketball, those kinds of things. That's not gonna be enough 70 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.720 anymore, you know, Uh, we we are. You know, those 71 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:54.839 of us who have have been said, I'm doing my part by buying tickets, 72 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:57.879 You're gonna have to do more. I'm curious, have they called you 73 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:00.959 out of the blue because they're calling people. They call me all the time 74 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:04.439 to say what are they asking? I don't answer the call. Well, 75 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:08.720 I see, I see a six two six number. I'm not answering. 76 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.439 So you're part of the problem. I am part of the problem. I 77 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.639 am. I am, and I'm not because I do buy tickets. Plus, 78 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:16.600 you know, I give my time to you know, to those guys. 79 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.360 I give a lot of time to those guys. So you know, 80 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:24.040 because because I'm there, they don't have to pay a statistician right that maybe 81 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:27.959 other schools might have to. So I feel like I donate a lot of 82 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.439 a lot of my time and and and things like that to do things that 83 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:33.360 go on over there. I've only got you know, I've only got so 84 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.839 much money to give, and I give it in terms. You know, 85 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:40.399 we're going to get two more seasoned football tickets this year because my daughter's are 86 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:45.959 here, right, and you know, so everybody has their way, but 87 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.439 yes, everybody's gonna have to do some more. So, I mean, 88 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:55.199 just just listening to a DYA yesterday channel sounded desperate, desperate in her tone, 89 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:57.600 right, Yeah, it was like, well I didn't realize that. 90 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.560 And she's talking millions at LSU and here thousand, one hundred and fifty whatever 91 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.720 it is, whatever the bank account looks like. And you know, I 92 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:05.639 hang out with the boosters, you know, you know that, and I 93 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:10.360 have some big ones who have money. And I'm saying this for a reason. 94 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:14.920 They're getting calls all the time, and they and we talk about booster 95 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.800 fatigue. They haven't reached that point, but they get calls all the time. 96 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:24.199 And like I said before, I mean a month ago that people are 97 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.399 starting to lay off people to accommodate, to accommodate that, I mean, 98 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:30.000 Burt Lopez got the call when you know, to keep a team act and 99 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.480 spread time and for feet of you know, from leaving after after Jed left, 100 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:36.120 and then we find out from then we find out from him. It 101 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:40.920 wasn't Washington that Arizona was up against for team act, was Alabama, you 102 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.560 know. So when the Alabama's come, you know, come crawling around, 103 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:46.399 you know, it's hard to compete with those guys. It's twenty two. 104 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:50.439 I think I read Goodman a day or two ago, and he says it's 105 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:55.959 going to be interesting. And I follow these guys just because I'm curious and 106 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:58.399 not because I'm gonna report with the reporting, but he says, you know, 107 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:00.120 it's going to be interesting in the next few days or weeks. I 108 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:04.680 can't remember what you said because the nil money checks come in. They come 109 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:06.920 in. I didn't know they came in at a certain periods, you know. 110 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.079 I thought it was gonna be a monthly thing or whatever. They come 111 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:15.399 in and once that check cash is what did they jump? Yeah, well 112 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:19.759 you get your last paycheck. Nice seeing you. If the schools and the 113 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:27.439 athletes aren't having contracts for all of this stuff, then that's their fault. 114 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.839 So if there's a there's a contract in place, and and somebody says, 115 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:32.600 well, I got my money, I'm leaving, but there's a contract in 116 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:34.480 place that says, well, then you got to give us the money back. 117 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:36.360 And how do you not do that? You have to do that. 118 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:40.839 Don't you buy before? It's basically pro sport now, right, Yeah, 119 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:43.920 I gotta have contract. Yeah, and we talked about that in terms of 120 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.920 Okay, now there was suptible criticism. You didn't do this, you didn't 121 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:51.639 do that, you won zero for nine from the floor in a crucial time. 122 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:56.439 We're cutting you, We're putting you on waivers. Yeah, yeah, 123 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:58.959 you know that's gonna have that's gonna have to be. And again, you 124 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.480 know we're probably I mean I you know, we're probably not far away from 125 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.920 these players actually being employees of the schools. Yeah. I hate it, 126 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:09.639 and there's a lot of people who don't want it, even a lot of 127 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.199 you hear a lot of athletes don't want it. But I think, just 128 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:20.360 in terms of the way our country functions in terms of labor, I don't 129 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.160 see how they're not going to be employees at this school. And just bringing 130 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:26.399 me to one of my first points before this all started, in our conversations 131 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:30.720 with us. Okay, Jay, you get paid one point five million for 132 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:33.320 this year. You're the starter, you're second string guy. I'm the seventh 133 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.039 guy off the bench. I'm a little pissed. I'm getting fifty thousands, 134 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.840 I'm getting twenty. I'm the ninth place guy. I getting up there? 135 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.639 Yeah? Or nothing? What it's like or your Jordan guys, who's you 136 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:48.960 know, trying to get into the Olympics bringing all this visibility and prestige to 137 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.320 the to the track program and he gets his name on some water bottles and 138 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:56.960 you know, ten thousand dollars right right, Well, and we most importantly 139 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:03.519 were more example better exampleotball on the center and you have some guy behind me 140 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.240 getting fifteen hundred yards. Well, how did that happen? Yeah? I 141 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:09.879 think I opened whold or two. Yeah. Yeah. Although I think we've 142 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:16.039 said before though, what you're hearing is that offensive linemen are the next highest 143 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:20.320 paid valuable football players after quarterback. As it should be, as it should 144 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.559 be, ye, as it should be, even even above running backs. 145 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.679 And the defensive players will say, ay, what about us? Yeah right, 146 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:28.879 Well that's the thing, you know, the cornerback, the safety, 147 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.600 the linebacker. Uh, you know, the defensive lineman, those guys. 148 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.559 It's really going to become like the NFL, where the market, maybe a 149 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.360 market for a running back isn't as much if you invest in an offensive line, 150 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.000 right, stuff like that. I'm getting up in the age now. 151 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.840 Maybe I'm cranky, like it was a Bill Bright. I don't. I 152 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.120 don't hate. I don't like anything. You're up in the age. I 153 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:52.120 don't. And you love sports, you just love, but you you're selective. 154 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.200 I'm getting the point of, I'm not sure I like this anymore. 155 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:00.960 Yeah, really no, they're Steve. There's there's a there's a lot of 156 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.399 people who are like that. And who you know, I mean, I 157 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.879 even you know some of the people that I know who are generally you know, 158 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:09.720 die hard fans start starting to say stuff like that, like, you 159 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:11.679 know, I don't know that I want I'm gonna, you know, follow, 160 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.320 I don't. I don't know. I'm gonna keep fulling. I don't 161 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.679 know, you know, I'm thinking maybe maybe instead of buying tickets, I'm 162 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.320 just gonna watch these games at home. You know, that's where all the 163 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.840 money's coming from. Anyway, So what what what does my two hundred dollars 164 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:28.159 for a football ticket matter. It does because you got to you got to 165 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.639 get fifty thousand of those, you know, in a game. But you 166 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.000 know, you're you're starting to hear things like that, like, well, 167 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.440 you know, I hate this, I hate that, I don't know the 168 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:39.120 players. I hate the players can come and go. You know, we've 169 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.200 got Caleb Love out there saying, well, I don't know if I'm gonna 170 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:45.519 come back, but I might. I don't know. Well maybe you know 171 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:50.600 people hate that after being used to you know, athletes, and they come 172 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:52.600 and they're here for three, four or five years and you get to know 173 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:58.039 them and you feel like they care about your program and your school. Then 174 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:00.879 you realize know that all they really care about is is, you know, 175 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:03.000 is the lettuce that comes with it. It's funny, go ahead. It's 176 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:07.320 like, uh, you know in professional sports, when you buy a jersey 177 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:09.440 for a guy, right, and then next year somewhere else, right, 178 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.320 Yeah, that's why you see the burning of the jerseys. You know, 179 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.600 you just spend whatever they cost, one hundred bucks and now it's being burned 180 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:20.120 in the corner. Yeah, having college right, right, So I saw 181 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.000 this interesting today. Colin Boswall put the tweet out today with himself in the 182 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.320 Illinois uniform when he was a kid, he had Illinois stuff because he's obviously 183 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:31.000 from there, from the same city. And here is our life really comes 184 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:37.240 full circle nineteen years here and happy. I know that's that's good for you, 185 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.639 Colin. Were you happy? Were you not happy here? Were you're 186 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:43.320 not happy here? It's like the guys that I know who they've married a 187 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.279 couple of times to the reasons, I've never been happier. And you had 188 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:50.279 five kids with this woman before. Were you kind of happy at some point 189 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:56.519 at least five times? I've always thought that was distasteful when you when somebody, 190 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.960 when somebody on their third wife says that she's the love of my life 191 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:03.559 one, I mean, my my, my soulmate. I'm like, you 192 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:11.080 had two other ones? Didn't two other souls? I know too many people 193 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.159 with second and third ones? I should I should stop right there, all 194 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:18.159 of you guys. Yeah. I wasn't singling anybody, but you know what 195 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:22.039 I mean. Uh, And I just thought that was kind of kind of 196 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.960 fun. Okay. Uh. And so we're gonna go to uh guess what 197 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.679 do we like today? Okay, We've got Lamont Honley coming in we'll talk 198 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:31.639 to move a football with him, how things are going. He's always he 199 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:33.320 always gives us some good perspective on what he sees out there. I want 200 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:39.080 to talk to all this and then there's all this stuff. He's a he's 201 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.799 a he's you know, Lamon's a businessman. He's in Tucson, supports the 202 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.879 U of A. You know, how much can a guy like Lamont dude? 203 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:46.840 And I think he said, I mean, he's got pretty he's got 204 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.559 a pretty good business. But you know, yeah, I don't think he 205 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.639 does. I think if we asked this question before and said none, I've 206 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:58.039 already been involved, like, yeah, I'm already heavily invested time tickets, 207 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:03.600 right, you know, all the game. Yeah, And I'm curious to 208 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:05.559 ask him about Larry Smith. What would Larry Smith be thinking about all this? 209 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.399 Yeah, yeah, because that's what we played for, right, right. 210 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.120 And when we talked about Dick told me we talked about Lout, I 211 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.879 think he would be just I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah, 212 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.080 Lout for sure, because it was beyond his control. It is pretty much. 213 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:22.759 But I think though because of Loupy Lout, he had away with the 214 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:26.159 donors. Well, that's That's the thing that we don't know is if lut 215 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:30.840 was you know still you know in this you know coaching in this era, 216 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:35.559 how much influence would he have on you know, building you know an nil 217 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.799 pot of money, you know, did he have more swaye than say Tommy 218 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:45.360 Lloyd or even a Sean Miller or anybody else that's been around. So that's 219 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.320 hard to know, Okay. The second and then John Wilner, who today 220 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.840 well he actually put it up yesterday. Was it ran in today's arizon a 221 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.559 Daily Star did a piece on the finances at the U of A, the 222 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:01.519 deficit that they're running forty three million or so that they ran in the fiscal 223 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:09.679 year that ended in twenty twenty two three twenty twenty three, and basically saying 224 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.720 the Arizona is not unlike a lot of other programs that they're just this is 225 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:18.600 what they're going through right now. And so if you get a chance to 226 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:22.000 read the story, well in the next hour, you know, it might 227 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.559 be a good good homework assignment. Before we talk to him in the four 228 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:30.320 fifteen segment, but just basically a storied you know, he took a look 229 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:35.559 at everything and just said Arizona's not like not unlike anybody else, particularly in 230 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:37.360 the Pac twelve. I don't know if you remember this one we had the 231 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.200 president Robinson, I asked him, says, I would assume, I would 232 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:45.120 assume because of the pandemic that other schools are going through this and it hasn't 233 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.159 been publicized yet. Well here we are, yeah, here we are. 234 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:50.519 You know, people are finding out. And in fact I just ran across 235 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:58.600 a little bit ago a on somebody named Tony Aaltimore. I don't know where 236 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:03.360 we got these grap who the sources on these graphics, But the schools in 237 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:07.600 the Big twelve county are ze right, next year's Big twelve, only three 238 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:13.759 of them, three of them we're in the we're in the black. And 239 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:16.120 you have you know, you have Arizona at forty seven million, uh Ace 240 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:24.759 who had forty eight, uh Colorado at forty one, Utah sixteen, Central 241 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:30.240 Florida at forty, Houston forty seven, Cincinnati forty three. The only ones 242 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:35.639 that were that were in the in the black were Texas Tech, Kansas and 243 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:39.519 Kansas State. Well, okay, you got to go, all right, 244 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:41.159 get hold of the month. 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Ready for 326 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.519 this summer? You're not ready? Not ready, But we'll get to that 327 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:34.359 point after the spring game. So I'm sure you've been to the practice of 328 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:38.039 time. You'll be our correspondent today. So if you've been to the practices, 329 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:45.720 what have you seen? Well? I seen I seen kids out there 330 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:51.880 working as far as trying to figure out what the next step is, as 331 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:56.440 far as the next step itself in my opinion, in my view, I 332 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:03.720 seen mostly they may observe the mo is, certain coaches on the field really 333 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:10.599 giving themselves to these kids. As far as going back to old school technique, 334 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:15.480 going back to old school fundamentals of the game of football. I like 335 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:19.839 what I've seen as far as the management of the coaching staff as far as 336 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:26.480 dealing with each other internally, and there's no external craziness in my opinion, 337 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:33.039 everything is internal off that end of it, and they work collectively together. 338 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.559 I mean nine times out of ten they out there corresponding with one another, 339 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.799 and you don't know they they're doing that because of this hitset system they got, 340 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:45.359 which I mean, I think it's pretty cool to have that. So 341 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.279 for my I view that end of it, I think that's that's all been 342 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.519 a positive of that aspect cover it. When you when you say old school, 343 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:56.559 right, we're not, I mean you're you're really I mean this is 344 00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:59.359 you know, they've got two old school guys as coordinators, you know, 345 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:03.000 doing the keen uh you know here in the eighties and the nineties. Do 346 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:07.720 you know neighbors here in the nineties, you know, and then you have 347 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:12.039 Brent Brennan who was like a child when those guys were here. How is 348 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:18.039 that? What have you seen from that whole dynamic out there? You know 349 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:22.720 what Jay? You know what I kind of lacking what I see in Brennan. 350 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:27.960 It's what I saw me being a player when Coach Smith got here as 351 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:33.000 a coach, and Coch Smith himself, as far as a head coach walking 352 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:37.839 walking out the field with his staff, Coach Smith, in my opinion, 353 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.920 was more of a you know, he was more of a manager than actual 354 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:48.440 coach. And I see those same characteristics and and and Brennan and Coach Brennan. 355 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:56.519 He's out there managing you know, the actual practice itself in regards to 356 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:02.519 you know, day to day operation, and and no doubt in my mind, 357 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:07.240 when he's behind closed doors, he's probably a whole different person. He's 358 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:11.839 more in charge when he's behind door. But on the field, he let 359 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.240 his coaches do all the coaching and he and I think, I think that's 360 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:19.079 a good way of managing grown men, as far as grown coaches that's out 361 00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:25.680 there trying to manage players. Yeah, super no, because because we sawd 362 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:27.039 that you know, Jet Fish was the offensive coordinator, right, so you 363 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:32.920 felt like like he was occupied with that and you wondered, you know, 364 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:37.680 okay, so he's really put the whole h all the other aspects of of 365 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.160 of you know, their their system in the hands of the other guys, 366 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.799 whereas as it sounds to me like Brandon, you know, he's overseen all 367 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.599 of it. I'm sure he's lady who coaches, coach, but he's kind 368 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:51.680 of saying, but I'm still the one who's kind of directing things. Is 369 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:53.680 that right? Right? Yeah? And that's that's exactly what I'm saying, 370 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:57.559 and and and and and that, And me personally, I like that approach. 371 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:02.279 And as that's as I said earlier, and there's no doubt in my 372 00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:07.839 mind behind closed doors when he's in his staff meetings, he's in charge of 373 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.039 things at that point in time. He's running the show at that point of 374 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:14.240 time, and he might have seen some on the field that he didn't approve 375 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:17.559 of, and he's letting these coaches know. It can be a guy that's 376 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:19.599 twenty years older than him but getting to steal. He's letting them know, 377 00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:23.240 you know, this is my show, and this is what I expect from 378 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:29.240 you to do these kids out on the football field. And again I like 379 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:32.839 it. I like it to what I see as a player, you know, 380 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:36.599 under the watching coach Spith. Well, okay, so that's good. 381 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.440 Now we know more about the football program anything else from well systematically, can 382 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:42.880 you tell any differences? I know it's hard to tell when they're just practicing 383 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.720 and stuff like that, But does it look like they're doing, you know, 384 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:52.480 a lot of the same things, or can you tell the same thing? 385 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.839 They're not particularly defensively, it's a whole different defense. It's not the 386 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:02.359 same defense fight by no means the scheme of the defense has changed a lot 387 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:07.960 in regards to It's not a plug type of a defense anymore. It's gonna 388 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:10.880 be more of an aggressive defense. And they're gonna try to meet behind the 389 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:15.480 line of scrimmage versus letting the offense meet at the line of scrimmage. You 390 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:25.960 know, he's using his second level players as far as a lot of man 391 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.960 coverage and also meeting in the backfield per se. Now now, offensively, 392 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:36.480 you know, I can I can see I can see more teaching offensive and 393 00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:40.000 maybe because of the spring ball right now, but offensively, I can see 394 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.680 more teaching going on, and more hands on and and and and and and 395 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:49.319 making a mistake of teaching moment. I see more of that than I've seen 396 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:53.920 in the previous coaching staff, and and and particularly when I said it's the 397 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:59.759 particular person and that I see that's happened with more than anybody. It's the 398 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:03.759 off. It's a line coach. I mean, I mean he just to 399 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.359 me, he's a phenomenal teacher from what I've seen that the few times I've 400 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.960 been out there, and and he got his guys in sync. He's doing 401 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.000 the simple things, watching defeat, moving the wrong way, stepping here and 402 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:19.160 there. As soon as he sees something that's not right, it's a teaching 403 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.839 moment. And that's correct that. Now that that said, Lemon, let 404 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.920 me ask you, so you have two different styles of coaching, last year's 405 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.240 and this year's, and I'm sure there's a ton of them. Is there 406 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.720 a right way or a wrong way? Or can you skin a skin a 407 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.839 cat different ways and still be good at it? You know what I'm saying. 408 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.000 Maybe the kid was taught differently last year, now this guy wants it 409 00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:42.119 differently, but still both are good. I mean it both still be good. 410 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.880 And and here here, here, here's the goodness when it comes to 411 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:51.119 Steve. The goodness is how you're going to deliver your message to those kids, 412 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.200 to get those kids to believe in what you're saying and what you're doing, 413 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:57.200 okay, And and and again when I when when I see that offensive 414 00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:03.480 line coach out there coaching and not out there and and and I'm not trying 415 00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:08.279 to put any any disc you know, bad feelings into Carl last year, 416 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:14.079 but I see this guy coaching and teaching and not being a cheerleader in my 417 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:18.000 opinion, and not a raw person. I mean, he's he's really he's 418 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:23.559 really honing in on on the important things, especially on the offensive line and 419 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.119 defensive line and you know in your defensive backs too, when it comes to 420 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:33.119 your footwork. Those things are so important to have because you can't think about 421 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.440 it when you're about to react. And here's the only time that you really 422 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.559 can do that and really teach that, you know, and put that in 423 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:45.880 their head where become programmable automatically versus a thinking about it. Okay. And 424 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.039 I see that, and and and and you know, and I applaud the 425 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:52.000 guy, you know, because I saw it. And that's and I was 426 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:56.400 like amazed that this is taking place. That makes sense. Now now to 427 00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.880 one of the things we definitely wanted to have you on. You must be 428 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.039 I'll say, disheartened. You can use whatever word you want with all the 429 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:08.400 transfers, all the demands for money in basketball and football, because I know 430 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.880 you're a big basketball fan, you go to the game, sitt front Row 431 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:18.200 Center, and now football obviously we have a big connection to Again that you're 432 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.680 very disheartened all the stuff that's going on with n I L and transfers and 433 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.319 stuff like that. I mean, as a fan, you just hate that. 434 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.960 And you're connected, Yeah, and you know, and you're absolutely right. 435 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.960 I'm not. I'm not a fan of it as far as how it 436 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:38.079 takes place, but but I am in the realization that is happening, you 437 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.519 know, and and and and I can only do so much financially. Whatever 438 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.960 I can do, I try to do. But I'm not one of those 439 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.160 that believe that I need to give a kid one hundred thousand dollars to let 440 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.000 them perform on the on the football field or the basketball field. I mean, 441 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:55.240 of course, I just don't think. I don't think we're doing a 442 00:29:55.240 --> 00:30:00.119 good service to these kids. But you still, in order to be you 443 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:04.000 know, competitive and productive, you know, unfortunate dollars is what's controlling and 444 00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:11.759 ruining everything right now. And it's statting to me and and now, Yeah, 445 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.519 you're right, I'm in it because you know, my brother, he's 446 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.799 the one who's helping with that right now, is particularly on the football end 447 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.359 of things, and so so so you know, it's it's kind of like, 448 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.640 you know, do I do I agree with this? Is this job? 449 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.119 Or should they be giving these kids this kount of money? It's it's 450 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.839 it's I don't know, it's it's just it's just baffled me that that we 451 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.599 at this stage of this world, that we got to, you know, 452 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:40.400 pay eighteen years old to get out there play a game that he posed to 453 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.799 love. Exactly. Let me ask you that said, uh, you had 454 00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:47.359 a former coach in coach Smith, why would he think about all this? 455 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.400 He'll be turning in his grave right now. I mean, I mean, 456 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.839 I'm sure all these old coaches are turning grave. I mean, look at 457 00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.480 the makeup now. Coaches don't want to coast no more, right you know, 458 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.319 so coaches that believe in the game and love the game, they want 459 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.240 to get out of the game because they don't want to mess with all of 460 00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:11.359 this other stuff that's going on and try to get these kids, you know, 461 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.920 paid all this money. You know, I'm setting it the fact that 462 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.519 we setting these kids up for failure in life. I mean that just the 463 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.720 other day I talked. I was telling Brennan, I said, man, 464 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.920 I want to see these kids ten years from now. Let me see these 465 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.960 kids ten years years from now. And first and foremost that none of them 466 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:33.759 are gonna graduate from anywhere. Secondly, they're gonna have no allegiance as far 467 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.920 as coming back to ten twenty years from now, You're not gonna be that. 468 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.279 You're not even gonna have alumni weekend because there's gonna be no alumni to 469 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.319 come back to the weekend, you know, because you know, nobody have 470 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.880 no loyalty to any school. So it's gonna be a whole disconnect ten to 471 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.319 twenty years from now. Well, you know, they guess sorry. That 472 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.440 gets your point that you know, we've made a number of times about people 473 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.480 like you. Uh. You see all these athletes that have stuck around Tucson 474 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.839 because you were here. You were here for four years, five years, 475 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.720 whatever. You made connections, you met business people, you got your degree, 476 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:15.920 all those things, and so you've been able to build a successful life 477 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:17.319 out of that. A business, you know, whether it's been in business 478 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.480 or just having a great job you think of Matt Mulebach, Cory Williams, 479 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.680 all these guys, you know, Bob Allio and all those guys, and 480 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.519 that these guys who come for a year then go to the next school, 481 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.039 then the next school and the next school. They're not making those connections. 482 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.519 You know, Caleb Loff could come back in fifteen years and people aren't going 483 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:39.599 to know who he is, you know, if he doesn't stick around or 484 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:44.799 you know whoever they are, right, I mean, and that's important idea, 485 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:50.319 and people just start I think the athletes aren't recognizing that how important that 486 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:54.119 is because of the bank, you know, they chasing the bag and chasing 487 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.839 it opportunity to be hopefully to play, and it's said and also the fact 488 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:04.279 that they got family members who was ahead of them trying to find a place 489 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.680 for them for you know, more dollars and things of that particular nature instead 490 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.759 of looking out the well being of these kids, and they're looking out the 491 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:14.599 fact is they you know, first of all, they gotta have some i 492 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:19.119 mean, you know, social positional skills as far as being able to be 493 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.160 a kid when you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old, they can't even 494 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.279 be kids right now, in their heads. They trying to, you know, 495 00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:30.319 find that next opportunity to particularly basketball, to play, you know, 496 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:36.400 in the NBA. And it's sadden me because none of them gonna play in 497 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.480 the NBA, you know, none of them gonna play in DNA. I'm 498 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:43.119 just looking at our team just just just just now, just these kids are 499 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.599 leaving now. None of those kids are ready to play in the NBA, 500 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.559 none of them in my opinion of the little basketball I know. But all 501 00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:53.279 of them think they ready to play in the NBA. So they're gonna leave 502 00:33:53.319 --> 00:34:00.000 here, go to Illinois and Indiana, and they're gonna be forgotten people here 503 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:04.160 Tucson at the University of Arizona, a great institution that that that can, 504 00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:09.440 like you say, create these long relationships. I mean, I got relationship 505 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:15.039 with with Brandy Robbins and David Adams and you know, and and Byron Evans 506 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:20.519 and uh, I mean this weekend, I mean I'm helping this Byron, 507 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.239 I'm Brandon do a golf tournament for guys coming in. We got like seventy 508 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:30.039 guys that's coming in to play. God. But like I say, ten 509 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.559 years, twelve years from now, we're probably gonna have two guys. You 510 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.800 know, because the real Wildcats, as far as the ones that lord to 511 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.320 our university, we probably gonna be dead and gone, and these no one's 512 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:45.119 gonna be around to really really appreciate what the university has done for them, 513 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.400 you know, right, and what you got out of the university. I 514 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:50.639 mean, I mean, I just hate it. I just hate it. 515 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:55.599 In N two fix, that's definitely God completely lost money. I'm glad that 516 00:34:55.639 --> 00:35:04.719 I'm on your nil advertiser. Hey, you're actually Steve. It should be 517 00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.599 the other way. I think I can get more out of my name. 518 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:13.079 You get out of Yorks and I'm getting you. Be quiet, Be quiet, 519 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.920 you know. I think I think the name Hundley got more Paul behind 520 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.039 it than you know, you know, Steve and Jay. I'm not you 521 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:23.280 know what, Lamon, We're not gonna argue with you on that one. 522 00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.920 We're just not. We're not, by the way, the but we do 523 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:34.760 appreciate the time Lamar always thanks about you, all right, God bear down, 524 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:39.559 lad, But no, but you know it's a good point. Look, 525 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.440 you can look all over town. They're they're you know, they're got 526 00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:50.119 people who've been athletes in Arizona, men and women were here making a living, 527 00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.199 you know, long term, right, Lamon's been here since for forty 528 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:58.079 years. Yeah, right, and he and here he is, you know, 529 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:02.559 and and they're all doing well because they've used those connections. And that's 530 00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.840 that's a big piece of what's being lost in all of this. Sure, 531 00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:08.280 well, look we got to go. We'll come ahead and other tide to 532 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.400 talk. All right, Yeah, let's let's kick this around some more. 533 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.280 So, well, we'll be back. We'll love to take your cost five 534 00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:15.440 two zero, four, one, six, seventy four forty give us a 535 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.719 bus. If you're an Arizona man's basketball fan, you know it's been successful 536 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.159 for nearly forty years. 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Hey now yeah and 565 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.159 I'll show and join us for an evening of food, fun and music, 566 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:37.679 all while supporting local charities. Proceeds benefit TMC for Children, Courtney's Courage, 567 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.360 Candlelighters, Childhood Cancer Foundation, and Assistance League. Get your tickets and sponsorships 568 00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:49.039 online at the Centurions dot Com. That's the Centurions dot Com. Steve Ribera 569 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:53.480 and Jacin Salles, they have their eye on the ball. On Tucson Sports 570 00:38:53.480 --> 00:39:00.840 Stage, Chef Fox Sports fourteen fifteen, Welcome back to Why of the Ball 571 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.840 Hero, Fox Sports fourteen fifty hubs. Steve, he's Jay, your sid 572 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.079 Jay. You'll call pretty today. You know I had to get all gussied 573 00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:14.039 up today, Steve. No, now got to go to an event. 574 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:15.039 Well, you know, we're doing a little bit too sound work today. 575 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.800 We guys should remind people that were not reminded. But let people know. 576 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.480 You're gonna have to leave after the breaking news segment because you've got to go 577 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:27.800 cover the ribbon cutting for the new golf facility at Tuson Country Club, the 578 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.760 U of A men's and women's golf facility over there. It looks a really 579 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.960 nice building, it's really cool, but they're going to cut the ribbon on 580 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.960 that today. I think it's the Bill Clements facility or something like that. 581 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.320 So you'll you've got to go do that. I've got to go cover an 582 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:45.760 event for a Sun Corridor event down at the Fox Theater right right. I 583 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:47.639 mean, I got a haul out of here right as soon as the show 584 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:52.440 is over. So the the podcast will be going up a little late again 585 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.000 tonight. We're just busy, guys, Steve. Yeah. In fact, 586 00:39:55.159 --> 00:40:00.199 the podcast which was I thought we had a pretty decent interview with the with 587 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:01.800 the DA right, it's it's up, gets up. It's been up. 588 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:06.360 Yeah, so you can uh uh you know what, I only put it 589 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.440 up on on on Twitter. I didn't put it up on Facebook. But 590 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.480 if you go to our Twitter feed you can see it at the top of 591 00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:15.880 our profile. Uh. In conversation, in addition to the conversation we just 592 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:22.239 had with Lamont Huntley about money has become the number one factor in everything right 593 00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.719 now. It's all about the money. You know, we heard a Da 594 00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:30.360 Barnes yesterday. She said that that Ni l is the number one, two, 595 00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:32.760 three, four, five and six things that's they talk about, you 596 00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.920 know when she's recruiting. You know, you got Lamont who has all those 597 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:42.800 connections to the u A as as a player, an All American football player. 598 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.360 You know, his brother is on the football staff. He's a businessman. 599 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:50.559 He's you know, certainly somebody that if you know, I don't know 600 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.440 how much he's donating, but I'm certain he gets phone calls, probably more 601 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:57.599 phone calls than I do, because he's you know, he's done. You 602 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.599 know, he's so visible and and all that and how everything revolves around that. 603 00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:05.519 No, it's just a tough time, like I tell you, I 604 00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.119 tell you that the coaches are there's a new challenge and no one promised, 605 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:13.119 okay say no one who would have thought that it would come down to this. 606 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.840 As a coach, you're more than a coach, your salesman. And 607 00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:20.280 not that they hadn't been before. But this is like on steroids. But 608 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:24.159 but when guys like Nick Saban leave the profession because of this, Yeah, 609 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:30.039 that I mean that, that more than anything else, tells you what's going 610 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.360 on here and how bad it is. Let's take this call h Are on 611 00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.880 the air and Eye on the ball. Hey, guys, is Rick Beck? 612 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.760 What's up? So? I had a couple of questions and the first 613 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:46.280 one when Jay writes his check for five hundred thousand dollars, is that that's 614 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:51.679 deductible? Uh? Honestly, some of it is. I don't know. 615 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:54.559 I don't know the tax in terms of like nil money, you know, 616 00:41:54.599 --> 00:42:00.719 if it's going directly. I don't have the answer. Yeah, is it 617 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:02.480 tax deductible? Well, let me tell you this. Vic. We're trying 618 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.039 to get Ray Wells. We try to get him this week, but he's 619 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:07.679 very busy, he told me this week, So we're gonna get him on 620 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.800 next week, we'll ask him that question. We should know, Okay, 621 00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.760 I'm sure we'll get it up and then you guys have kicked this around. 622 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:21.159 But how long is this gonna last with no return investment? There's how many 623 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.320 this is in its infancy right now. But people that are donating a million 624 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:29.599 dollars can't do it every year, right, Right, We've talked about that. 625 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.599 I know it's it's unbelievable. Even if even if the NCY double A 626 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.920 or whomever's in charge it decides that they can't do this anymore, you're gonna 627 00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.800 tell me that players are going to say no, no, no, no, 628 00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:44.920 we're going to continue this, and you're still gonna pay me, whether 629 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.960 it's above board or under the table. Yeah. Hey, and Vic, 630 00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.119 I just looked this up real quick to answer your question. Uh, And 631 00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.920 I'm not sure what the website this is that says this, but it says 632 00:42:53.960 --> 00:43:00.599 that, and I did. Donations to nil collectives are not tax deductible because 633 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:06.280 because the private quote unquote, the private benefits they provide to student athletes are 634 00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:12.559 not incidental, both qualitatively and quantitatively to any tax exempt purpose further by that 635 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:20.679 activity. Right. So yeah, so you're just you're just you're just giving 636 00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:22.920 away. Man. You have said this before, Steve, How are you 637 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:29.559 gonna still pay for weight rooms and uh coaching and all that stuff. It's 638 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:37.079 yeah, the free internship to the NBA and the NFL is not again. 639 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.440 I don't know how sustainable is the word that I keep coming up with. 640 00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:46.119 I don't I don't know how this long term this can continue to go because 641 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:50.000 the last thing, real quick, I mean you guys, these guys are 642 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:55.320 getting the best weight room, the best coaching, food room and board and 643 00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:00.239 and how is that sustainable? Like and importantly Vic, you know, for 644 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.519 the programs that have built those kinds of things, you know where a football 645 00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:10.199 locker has a TV and a video game and all that, they went into 646 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:15.599 debt to build that stuff. So they're having to service they're having to service 647 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.079 that debt at the same time they're having to ask for more money. Yeah, 648 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.239 wow, Okay, thank you guys. They're amazing, But you're kind 649 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.840 of hit it on the head. I don't know how long I can keep 650 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.559 watching, right, It's hard. It's hard. It's getting harder without any 651 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:36.159 loyalty too. It's just you know, hey, Jay or Vic, thank 652 00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:39.079 you, Vick, Jay I you know, I gave ten thousand dollars especially 653 00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:43.960 for this guy X to play to play here, and look at what he's 654 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:47.079 averaging two point nine points in game and three rebounds. Yeah, I don't, 655 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:50.719 I don't. I'm not happy. I mean, okay, look and 656 00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:52.960 look, we know tam Mac is going to be good. But whatever amount 657 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.920 of money that Bert Lopez has given him, and yell, whatever service he's 658 00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:01.440 providing. Let's say TAC doesn't do so well, how much value is there 659 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:07.840 to that? Hi, you're on there and eye on the ball. Hey, 660 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.000 Jay, he Steve has done it. Donny, what's up? Man? 661 00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:15.159 Hey? You know what? I think. It's gonna take one of 662 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:20.119 the big dogs, an L, s U, an Alabama, Ohio State 663 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:27.159 or somebody to make their ni L a two year or three year commitment unless 664 00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.559 you declare for the draft and you go. And if you leave, if 665 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:36.079 you try to leave, because the NCAA rule says you can transfer, but 666 00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:40.760 if you leave my collective, I want my money back. Some semblance. 667 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:46.360 It's gonna it's gonna take. It's gonna take an ironclad contract that says you're 668 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:52.400 gonna be here for for three years two years if you declare for the draft 669 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:58.199 and give up your college eligibility. Yeah. No, you make a good 670 00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:00.239 point, becauseho's in the weaker position something like that. Right, is it 671 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:05.480 the school that's giving the money and saying, you know, they're the one. 672 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.400 Is the contract more important to them or is it more important to the 673 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.239 athlete. You know, the athlete says Okay, well I need to know 674 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.480 that I'm going to get my money, but the school needs says well, 675 00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:17.840 I need to know that you're going to be here. I think I think 676 00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.000 the schools are more under the gun because you know, you get a kid, 677 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:28.239 you get a five star kid that has nobody to to help, you 678 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.920 know, help them make decisions, and he's jumping at the big dollar every 679 00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:37.840 year, and right now there's nothing, there's nothing to stop them. There's 680 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:42.039 nothing to hold them up for Hey, you know, wait a minute, 681 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:47.719 we're giving you X dollars, you know, opportunity for an education, the 682 00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.920 exposure of being on it, you know, on a you know, you 683 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:58.280 know, top top ten team and on all that stuff. It's right now, 684 00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:04.360 it's not fair to the schools who it's not fair to, right because 685 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.559 because even kids that have no business making any spare money are making money. 686 00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:13.519 We don't know how much, but they're getting something right, no question. 687 00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:15.679 And nineteen year old you're paying of a million. He's not going to give 688 00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:22.039 a crap about the school situation. They reported the whole roster, the whole 689 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:30.119 scholarship roster of Utah got a truck, which if I was a student up 690 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.280 there, I would not be driving that truck after hours. That's for dang 691 00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.119 sure, because you know they got GPS on them. But that's another that's 692 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:42.800 another discussion, right right, Okay, yeah, I mean you go to 693 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:46.519 that remember the Spencer Rattler getting those ings, he got two vehicles? Did 694 00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:51.719 he get to keep those right after he left? You think? Well? 695 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.320 But who knows? Yeah, it all depends on how the paperwork went exactly, 696 00:47:55.679 --> 00:48:01.000 exactly exactly, you know, and the collective, you know, the 697 00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:05.119 collective you know, because I don't want to name names of who's giving out 698 00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:08.760 that money. But you know, it's like, hey, I'm putting this 699 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:14.800 into you and I'm bettering, I'm bettering your situation, but you've got to 700 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.199 give me something back, and a little bit more than just to play on 701 00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:21.960 the field. I need a commitment, right, And that's only fair. 702 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:24.880 That's only fair. Because that's that's what the rest of us have to do 703 00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:30.000 out in the world. Right. So that's why I don't believe in the 704 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:36.559 word fair, because nothing's fair. Well, no, maybe not fair, 705 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.639 but I don't know. I don't know another word to you, but it's 706 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:44.440 a little more even that way, if you go, Okay, I'm going 707 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.320 to give you this, but I need a commitment from you. The funny 708 00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:50.480 thing about it is we'ma making a great point in terms of after this is 709 00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.559 all done, they're coming gun and they've been paid in ten years. They 710 00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:57.639 don't have a degree because the gun bounced around. They didn't care about the 711 00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.519 degree, and then what are they doing? Well, you know what are 712 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:02.440 they up to? Probably nothing? Yeah? The money that is going to 713 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:08.480 last, right, yeah, I mean it's it's truthfully, at nineteen years 714 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:13.920 old, even a million dollars, that's not life changing money that if you 715 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:15.599 got to have it for the rest of your life, right, Donnie, 716 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.920 can you adopt me. I'm in trouble right now. I didn't have any 717 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:25.280 money. I just have thoughts. I want some of those thoughts. I 718 00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:30.800 mean, but if but if I had money, I for dang sure would 719 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:35.480 be finding a way of getting a commitment on my money to try to make 720 00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:39.000 this, to try to raise this program. And I think it's I think 721 00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:43.880 it's only right that, you know, because if you give a kid money, 722 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:47.159 six months later he's gone, or six months later he gets the duy 723 00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:52.320 and gets kicked off the team or whatever. You know, I mean, 724 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.440 you're taking it. There's a lot of risks out there for something like that. 725 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.519 I mean, everybody takes a risk when they make an investment, but 726 00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:00.119 something like that, boy, you just I don't know. Well, that's 727 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.440 I mean, you go with the NFL, with the personal what is the 728 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:09.679 personal conduct? Plus the guys get cut and their contracts get canceled. You 729 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:14.320 know, all that stuff's got to be put in there. And right now, 730 00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:16.760 who knows, we have We have no idea what is that is. 731 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:21.639 It's just is it just a bag of money? Right right? Right? 732 00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:23.639 Well, Donny, thanks for calling, Thanks for calling us always all right, 733 00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.599 man, appreciate it. Thanks, guys, have a good one. 734 00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.639 You know. Another thing that's not factored into this that we that I saw 735 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:37.320 in that tweet, uh APR APR the GPA of the teams where guys leave 736 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.119 the transfer. That's got to be such a mess. Right to track that 737 00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:45.840 exactly. Then you have to wait until he does graduate or he doesn't graduate. 738 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.920 Oh god, that's gonna have to change as well, because it's such 739 00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.920 a mess, right, such a mess. Oh god, all right, 740 00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:58.000 I know, I'm I'm glad I'm in this job position whatever, uh, 741 00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:01.840 compared to the U A or or any because there's so many moving parts and 742 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:06.920 them parts are gonna continue to move until they get it right, if they 743 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:13.239 ever get it right, because what's right here? What's right? What's the 744 00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:15.119 right move? Because they didn't when they thought of this, they didn't think 745 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.960 of all this. Now, I thought, Jay, you were gonna get 746 00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:22.599 paid for being in an endorser for a car dealership, give you some money, 747 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:24.800 get your car maybe, and you were gonna make ten thousand whatever money. 748 00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:30.639 Yeah. Just hey, I'm I'm Noah. I'm Noah, and I 749 00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:32.519 want you to go to Ford or wherever. Yeah, all right, we've 750 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.760 got to call her calling in. We can't take that call right now because 751 00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.000 we've got to go to our break. We would let you if you want 752 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.559 to call on the other side, even you're during breaking news, feel free 753 00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:43.960 to do that. We're we're just not able to take your take your calls. 754 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:45.679 We gotta we got to head out of here. We don't have any 755 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.599 leeway on this one, but we're gonna come back. There's breaking news that 756 00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:53.599 there's breaking stuff is stuff is breaking right now. Uh uh, what's your 757 00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:59.280 name said? But we'll have breaking news and then we're gonna have John Wilmer 758 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.159 we'll talk to speak to some of this, but more along the lines of 759 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:07.119 the financial challenges that some of these athletic departments are facing right now. This 760 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.679 is just man, this is just scary stuff. So stick around. And 761 00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:14.280 again, if you just called it, we didn't take your call, please 762 00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:16.239 give us a call back at five two zero four one six seventy four, 763 00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:17.239 forty after the break