WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:13.000 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty KIM 2 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:16.399 six forty. It's Later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio 3 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:21.679 app as we continue to follow what is happening on UCLA's campus. In fact, 4 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:27.320 kfi's own Chris Adler is there on the scene with the latest Good Evening. 5 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:30.960 Chris, what does it look like? Kamo? So, as I 6 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:35.119 was in the middle of my life head, just starting that lighthead with Mark, 7 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.399 I just turned to my left and from Haynes Paul, I just saw 8 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:45.079 about three dozen police officers come out with helmets lest lethal round weapons. And 9 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:51.439 so now we probably we probably have about one hundred police officers on campus here 10 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:56.439 that I can see. Some of them are carrying les letho round guns. 11 00:00:56.719 --> 00:01:00.719 They have dip ties, those those handcuffs dip ties. So it looks like 12 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.719 it looks like they will be moving in tonight. Don't know what time or 13 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:07.200 when it's gonna happen, but it looks like they're gearing up for that. 14 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:14.120 They're getting organized here Mo. And we've got hundreds of pro Palestinian supporters that 15 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:18.640 showed up about an hour and a half ago in support of this camp, 16 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:23.840 the UCLA has deemed unlawful, has told these protesters they have to go. 17 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:27.599 We heard from the protesters they said they're not going. They're gonna stay put 18 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:33.239 there. They're here for a cause, they're here for Gaza and they're not 19 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:40.680 moving. So we've got LPD officers and other officers here in the middle and 20 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:45.719 they're surrounded by a camp protesters on one side, hundreds of protesters on the 21 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:49.040 other side. So, you know, but they look like they're organizing here 22 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.640 and getting ready for getting ready to move in most Is there any community excuse 23 00:01:53.719 --> 00:02:00.239 me, communication like via bullhorn between law enforcement and the protesters. Are they 24 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:05.879 given them reminders, you know, get out or you know you're here unlawfully? 25 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:09.319 Is there any type of communication. Well, I'm looking at HP right 26 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:13.879 now. They're kind of off on a sidebar with some of these protesters from 27 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:17.120 within the camp. It's like a mini protest going on that ESP is monitoring 28 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:22.240 on both sides. On both sides here, there are two buildings across from 29 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:25.159 each other, and CHP is kind of in the in the middle manning these 30 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:30.800 these protests, these many protests, though they're directly communicating with these protesters over 31 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:35.240 there. There's there's no megaphones going back and forth. We did see a 32 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:39.479 protester emerged from the camp who was screaming and shouting using his bullharn saying, 33 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:46.000 where was LAPD yesterday when we were being attacked by Zionists? Where was LAPD? 34 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:49.319 Now? You guys want to show up. So they were screaming at 35 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:53.400 LAPD, criticizing them for not being there when they were under attack. To 36 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:58.719 that concern, do you know when you entered the campus, is the campus 37 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:02.719 officially on lockdown? Are they keeping out non students? Are they allowing students 38 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:07.680 on the campus? What is it like to gain entrance? Right? So, 39 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.240 from yesterday there were hundreds of students on campus. They were in the 40 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:15.240 middle of final exams. There were hundreds of students walking through the campus. 41 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:20.800 Today there were students. Students are allowed on the campus. They're not allowed 42 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:24.960 in this quad outside of Roy Paul and from outside of Powell Library. Those 43 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:30.479 buildings have been shut they've been closed down. Those buildings face the camp, 44 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:34.520 but other buildings are open. Students are able to get in and out, 45 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:39.039 but classes have been canceled. Students are not allowed to enter anywhere near the 46 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:46.080 camp. This has been on strict lockdown. Today, Powell Library was walking 47 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:50.639 up to try to talk to the protesters. Media liaison. They want to 48 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:53.199 let me get in there, and any of the protesters who came out of 49 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:57.919 the camp, they would not let them back in. Several of them came 50 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:01.520 out to try to get supplies and let them back in. Mo as I 51 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:08.319 watched general news coverage on the various networks locally and even cable networks. For 52 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.479 me, from what I see, is painfully obvious that there are a number 53 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:15.759 of people who are not students. From what you see on the ground, 54 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:19.439 are you looking at, to the best of your knowledge, mostly students or 55 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:25.639 mostly a mix of students and non students. It's hard to tell. It's 56 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:30.279 hard to tell. But what I can tell you is that from the camp. 57 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:32.800 There was one woman who walked out of the camp today who was not 58 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:36.519 a student, and she was wearing the Palestinian shawl. She came out, 59 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:41.240 officer sold her you cannot go back in. So I started speaking with her. 60 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.600 I said, well, you know what's going on in the camp. 61 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.839 He goes, well, I'm not a student, but I then they're helping 62 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:50.399 them clean the camp, keeping it in order, so she's not a student, 63 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:54.720 and she told me there's other people in the camp that are not students. 64 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:57.879 The question, MO is, how many of them are not students? 65 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:02.639 We know for a fact that there are non students in that camp. You 66 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:10.120 talked about how the student protesters will call them student protesters were in communication at 67 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:14.040 least on a small level with law enforcement. Do we know if there's any 68 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:20.319 UCLA administration people who are also there in communication with the protesters. You know 69 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:25.439 what, We've been reaching out to UCLA. We have not heard from UCLA. 70 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:30.399 I talked to students today who said that they have only heard from UCLA 71 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:35.600 this morning when these fights broke out last night. The violence attacked from last 72 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:41.000 night and early this morning. They then received an email that classes were closed, 73 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:46.560 but they were outraged. They said why didn't the university take action sooner? 74 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.480 And they were also outraged that police took over two hours to show up 75 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:56.199 on campus. This is coming from the students, but you know, they 76 00:05:56.199 --> 00:06:00.399 said that I personally have not had I have had no communication from UCLA. 77 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:04.279 I've reached out to the chancellor several times. I did speak with one student 78 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:09.079 who says the Chancellor's on his way out he's turning, I believe in November, 79 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.680 and they said he doesn't care. So you know, I can't speak 80 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.319 to that, but this is what students are saying. MO. Pay one 81 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:20.120 more picture for me. I know from published reports that LAPD has taken the 82 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:25.879 lead as far as that on campus presence. But you made mention of CHP. 83 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:30.160 What are the law enforcement agencies have you seen since you've been there? 84 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.959 So I will tell you LAPD is the biggest presidence. I'm looking at right 85 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:41.000 now. I'm looking at lines of LAPD, groups of LAPD in the middle 86 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:45.920 of this squad here. I've got HP on the side. They probably are 87 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:49.160 the second biggest presidence. And I saw Beverly HILLSPD and Santa Monica PD, 88 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:55.480 Roland as well as campus PD. They they have public safety out here and 89 00:06:55.519 --> 00:07:01.079 they have multiple campus uh campus security officer. I've been told that they are 90 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:05.639 not affiliated with the campus, that they're private contactors, that the campus that's 91 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:12.040 the st retired Chris. This is something going on right now here. Noise 92 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:15.519 in the background, it's just the protesters. They're they're getting riled up, 93 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:20.160 and actually the protesters are shining a flashlight on me from within the camp they 94 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:25.120 haven't been too friendly with media, So they're shining a flashlight on me right 95 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.079 now. I don't know what they're Yeah, they're tining it directly in my 96 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:32.240 face. So, uh, now what you're hearing, You're you're hearing protesters 97 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:38.560 from from all angles. This is a rhetorical question before I let you go. 98 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:44.480 Don't they understand that antagonizing the media doesn't help them get out the message 99 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:48.079 that they want all of us to know and support. You would think that. 100 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:53.879 I think that there have been to their to their credits, there have 101 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:57.360 been a lot of agitators that have come in. I've seen them myself. 102 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:01.360 There have been agitators that come in and want to had a reaction. I 103 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.000 think that they are not open to the media now. On day one when 104 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:07.279 I was here, they they how to check in. There was a media 105 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.959 check in on day one, but they did send out a liaison to speak 106 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:18.120 with me. She was very cordial, very kind, very very uh very 107 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:22.680 calm. But we're saying this is the scene now very different towards media, 108 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:31.160 almost almost hostile towards media. Have you seen people walk up since the order 109 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:35.480 of dispersal was given? Are are there more people amassing since when you first 110 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:41.399 walked on campus. Absolutely there within this camp, well within this camp now 111 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.320 there's probably about three hundred people, I'm told within the camp. I was 112 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:48.919 able to take a peek inside wheres this plywood was coming down. They were 113 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.159 reconfiguring and reconstructing the plywood. I thought that they were breaking down and abiding 114 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:58.360 by the orders from the university, but I heard them saying, we've got 115 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.960 new rule, We've got a new plan. We're going to be stronger than 116 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.679 ever, and we need to create a multi layered barricade, a three layer 117 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:11.960 by barricade. They've got dip ties on these palletts, these crates, they're 118 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:16.840 using metal fencing, these skids. They're using skids and palates and they've got 119 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.159 them all gip tied together to kind of reinforce this wall. So you know, 120 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.600 this is about three hundred of them in their moment. It's very organized. 121 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:31.440 They even have they have a tent that's designated for PCP. I spoke 122 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:33.320 with a guy who was trying to get into the camp who said he was 123 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.360 a medic. He said he was a medic and he needed to get back 124 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:43.080 into the camp to treat his people. So this is a very organized camp 125 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.919 in just a few days. Since last week, they've become very organized. 126 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:52.440 Do you think organized as in outside money helping or something else, just organized 127 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:58.320 internally? Well, I've been told that they were having fundraisers. There were 128 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.159 fundraisers. I don't know where where these fundraisers were, where they came from. 129 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:05.600 They said that they had fundraisers to raise money for supplies. They were 130 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:11.440 asking for donation from the public. Even up until today we saw Blake Trolly 131 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:16.600 or Blake Trolley got video of them trying to bring supplies in, food, 132 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:20.679 water, art supplies. So we don't know exactly who's donating, but they've 133 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:26.600 been calling on the public tremendously. Chris Adler, fantastic reporting. Please be 134 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.399 safe down there and hopefully there will be no violence tonight. All right, 135 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:35.399 Mo, you got it, Thank you. It's later with Mo Kelly. 136 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:37.720 Keep it right here. We're continuing our coverage of the events which are unfolding 137 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:41.639 on the campus of UCLA. As you heard from Chris Adler, there's a 138 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:48.559 large LAPD president second, the CHP, Santa Monica PD, Beverly Hills PD, 139 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:54.200 campus security, and more. We're waiting to see whether the some three 140 00:10:54.279 --> 00:11:01.480 hundred protesters on the campus in that encampment will heed the divers order or whether 141 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.120 LAPD and other law enforcement will be forced to move in. So keep it 142 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.519 right here. We'll find out what happens as the night progresses. KFI AM 143 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:13.240 six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with Moe 144 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:18.039 Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty, and we're continuing to follow the 145 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:24.720 protests which are going on around southern California, most notably on UCLA's and USC's 146 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:31.519 campus. You've heard about the expanded law enforcement presence on UCLA's campus, but 147 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.200 we're still keeping an eye on what's happening at USC. As the Daily Trojan, 148 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:41.720 the student newspaper their online site, they are updating events as it happens 149 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:46.080 live and just to give you some of the more recent updates at USC. 150 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.279 At seven fifty seven PM, it was reported that protesters are lining the perimeter 151 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:58.200 of Alumni Park with metal barricades, and then at eight point fifteen a reporter, 152 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.639 Jonathan Park, who's the digital Managing editor, had this to say. 153 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.440 Video shows more than one hundred people passing by campus in the midday protests convoy, 154 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:13.879 which is currently at Jefferson Boulevard and Figueroa Street per a Trojan's alert at 155 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:18.679 eight oh six pm, and the most recent update is for DPS cars Department 156 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:24.080 of Public Safety. Two with headlights on have driven up to two corners of 157 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:28.919 the encampment. And also, I know Tiffany Hobbs you have an update with 158 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:33.080 respect to USC as well. Sure, I've been monitoring their USC's Twitter slash 159 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:39.120 x handle, which is giving more on the ground insight and allowing people to 160 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:43.960 respond. And I noticed as well that USC's other social media accounts, namely 161 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:50.600 Instagram, they've shut their comments off. They don't want that sort of dialogue, 162 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:54.039 so to get information you really have to look deeply into other areas. 163 00:12:54.080 --> 00:13:00.440 And on their Twitter slash x account, just now little over an hour ago, 164 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:07.279 it was said that demonstrators unaffiliated with the university may arrive outside of a 165 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:13.879 specific area on campus, and just now, about ten minutes ago, it 166 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:20.440 was also said that demonstrators unaffiliated with USC are protesting in the intersection of Jefferson 167 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:30.559 Boulevard and Figueroa So USC is naming these demonstrators, these protesters as being unaffiliated, 168 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:35.320 it is specifically said, and they are designating them as non students. 169 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:41.600 So that speaks to what Chris Atler was saying at UCLA and what we've presumed 170 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.639 based off of what we've been looking at. Also, it was said last 171 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.159 segment and the last news report, Mark Ronner made it clear that a report 172 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:56.360 has just come in that LAPD is officially on tactical alert, meaning that every 173 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.440 officer is on call at this point, and they will even recall some offers 174 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:05.120 who are off duty, who may even be on vacation, to make sure 175 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:09.600 that they have all these different campuses canvassed. And we're a little bit behind 176 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.799 on the clock. But Taula, I want to get your thoughts because we 177 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.799 talk about social media, as we do with Tiffany each and every week, 178 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:20.559 we talk about how young people communicate via social media, how they get all 179 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:26.120 their news from their phone and so forth. I wonder, and I'm asking 180 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.679 you as a parent, and I'm asking you as an administrator of a school, 181 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:33.960 what are you hearing? What are young people saying? Are they even 182 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:39.440 invested in a moment like this? You know this moment, Mike. I'm 183 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:45.679 going to go with my son who will be eighteen in June, and for 184 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:50.879 his generation, I know that he has friends from both sides of the argument, 185 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.039 and I know that you know, he's having long conversations with him, 186 00:14:56.039 --> 00:15:01.279 and his friends are confiding in him and they're having talks. But that is 187 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:05.919 about the gist of it. There is no real i'd say worry because these 188 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:15.559 aren't things that are affecting them right now, even though college is on the 189 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.240 horizon. Here and Tiffany Hobbs, let me ask you as well, I 190 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:22.919 didn't give everyone your complete resume. You're also a teacher of eighth and ninth 191 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:26.440 graders, I am, yes, and I'm quite sure they have all sorts 192 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:31.039 of thoughts about everything which is ever going on, especially those things which are 193 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:35.960 viral or at the top of the social media landscape. What are you hearing 194 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:41.240 from your students and do they care? Do they understand this moment? You 195 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:46.639 know most some of them care. Some of them are very entrenched in what's 196 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:50.440 going on. And for those who are paying attention, it's on their TikTok, 197 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.080 it's on their Instagram, they're talking about it. Online media literacy is 198 00:15:54.399 --> 00:16:00.639 extremely important so that they can siphon through all of the information they're getting and 199 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.840 be able to find things that are accurate. What I'm learning is that there 200 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:10.679 are all sorts of rumors that my students are navigating. There's just an influx 201 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:15.960 of information, and they don't know what's right and what's untrue. So I've 202 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.600 been helping them with that and encouraging them, of course, to have dialogue 203 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:26.200 to form their own opinions. It's a large part of my teaching to give 204 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.720 them the information and let them form their opinions. I do not impart mine 205 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.080 upon them. That's not what teaching is at this level. But to know 206 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:38.600 that they are interested in what's happening in their own physical backyard is inspiring. 207 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:45.399 It's also nerve wracking because again, the information they're getting is widespread and has 208 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:51.679 and does contain a lot of inaccuracy. Yes, their ability to be able 209 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:55.639 to filter it is limited at best, even if they wanted to filter it. 210 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:57.039 When we come back on the other side of this break, I want 211 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:02.960 to talk more about how this is a affecting people who are not directly connected 212 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:07.720 to this, and I would be very transparent. This is something which has 213 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.799 been difficult for me personally. I have friends and family on both sides of 214 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:17.880 this issue. I have coworkers on both sides of this issue and trying to 215 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:25.839 navigate that when I personally do not have a rooting interest, as they say, 216 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:30.200 makes it very difficult. But I also want to hear from you Tuwala. 217 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.000 I want to hear from you Mark and even you Stephane as far as 218 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:38.559 how you navigate these moments, given that it's kind of complex. It's not 219 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:41.200 all of this or all of that. And also want to hear more about 220 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.759 what the children are thinking. It's later with mo Kelly as we follow the 221 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:51.119 events unfolding at USC and UCLA. I was just watching Key Cal nine and 222 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:56.519 you could see the police presence. It is, I would say, more 223 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.680 aggressive than passive at this point. It seems that they are prepared to enforce 224 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:06.279 that dispersal order. There's no telling when that may be, but it's obvious 225 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.880 that they're not going anywhere anytime soon, and they're going to make sure that 226 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:14.039 that encampment, or at least UCLA's campus has been cleared out. So we 227 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:15.880 will continue to follow that and we'll have more in just a moment. Can 228 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:21.920 if I am six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app you're listening to Later 229 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:26.759 with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty when we're following what is 230 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:33.880 unfolding at UCLA and USC and other campuses around the Southland. Last segment, 231 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:38.119 we'd started a portion of the conversation as to what the younger people may be 232 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:41.960 thinking at this moment. Before we return to that, we have an update 233 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:48.799 in regard to what is happening at UCLA via UCLA social media thanks to Aaron 234 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:55.839 in the newsroom. Go ahead, erin. I think we're having some technical 235 00:18:55.839 --> 00:19:00.400 difficulties. Mo continue on. Aaron is trying to get connected on her in 236 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.240 there. Okay, then have her come down to the studio of need be. 237 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:10.839 But we do have some information from UCLA's campus as far as what information 238 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:15.599 they are allowing out into the public. In the meantime, Tiffany Hobbs, 239 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:19.039 you had some information update on USC as well. Yes, so I'm looking 240 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:25.240 at the Twitter. I'm monitoring different accounts, and an hour ago an account 241 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:32.440 posted that there were protesters at USC and they say again they are not students, 242 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:37.839 not is emboldened and all capitalized. They are not students. And when 243 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.720 you look at the video they are marching, it looks like southbound on Figaroa 244 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:49.400 between let's say Jefferson and the next northbound streets where the New University kind of 245 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:53.519 target is and Trader Jones. They kind of mobilized around there, and they're 246 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:59.039 marching southbound it looks, but there are clearly about one hundred people. They're 247 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:04.000 waiving all sorts of signage and insignia, and they are not students, but 248 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:11.480 they are causing a lot of disruption to those streets and adding to what's already 249 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.240 a very confusing time for people on campus. Can you tell, from what 250 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:22.039 limited information you have, whether there is any increased police presence around these protesters 251 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.839 marching down the street. From what I'm seeing, there are Department of Public 252 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:34.759 Safety officers in riot gear on campus and off campus. You have LAPD monitoring 253 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:40.680 the situation as well. But I think that the increase in what the Department 254 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:47.599 of Public Safety officers are now wearing speaks to the expectation that things are going 255 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:52.519 to likely get out of hand as these encampments refuse to move. This is 256 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:59.880 what I wonder. I wonder if there is any coordination between the campuses, 257 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:07.400 if there's any coordination between the outside protesters, and whether what is happening at 258 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:14.680 USC has any connection or timing coordination with respect to UCLA. I'm just wondering 259 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.359 out loud. I just I don't think that anything is happening in a haphazard 260 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:23.319 manner, in a random manner that makes any sense. I agree. I've 261 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:32.160 seen numerous accounts that are chokingly saying USC did this, and UCLA said, 262 00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:37.880 hold my beer. So there's always this competitive spirit between the campuses and between 263 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:44.039 the student bodies, and I am certain that UCLA didn't want to be left 264 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:47.599 out when it came to these protests. And as we're saying, cal State 265 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:52.599 Northridge and cow State LA also have created or have had created on their campuses 266 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.680 different encampments in the last eight hours as well. That's an update. Let's 267 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:02.240 go to Aaron in our newsroom, who has it's a UCLA update. Hi, 268 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:07.279 though, Yes, So there are protesters that are now turning on their 269 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.920 flashlights. I guess there are speakers inside the camp who are giving a speech 270 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.519 about togetherness. They are trying. There's this idea that those students inside are 271 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:21.160 trying to keep it peaceful, and they are. The chants are also growing 272 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:26.039 louder. More police are filling in around. They're not allowed in our own 273 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:32.559 Michael Monks is on his way there now, and there's a lot of sound 274 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:36.799 coming in there, a booze and chants. Even though so there's like conflicting 275 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:42.640 reports of trying to keep it peaceful while also outside anger. Well, from 276 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:47.319 what you're telling me, and this is just how I'm reading it, you're 277 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:52.079 telling me that although people who are there are in part trying to keep it 278 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:56.559 peaceful, they're not trying to leave though either. No, there's hundreds of 279 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:59.599 them still there, and then the more people that show up, the more 280 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:06.519 police officers are on their way there as well. I wonder, And I 281 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:08.359 don't know your exact age, Aaron, but I know you're about one third 282 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:15.119 my age, So I wonder if someone who's not of my generation. Last 283 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:19.240 segment, I was asking Taula about the kids that he is an administrator of 284 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:22.480 a school of and also his personal kids, And I was asking Tiffy Hobbs 285 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.000 about the kids she teaches. You're a little bit older, you're more recent 286 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:30.559 to the college experience than any of us. Is that fair to say? 287 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:33.920 Yeah, I don't know. I think don't get in up there now too. 288 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.440 Oh yeah, okay, your whole maybe twenty seven at most, Yes, 289 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:45.599 there we go, I was warm quarters. How do you read this 290 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:51.640 moment given that you were more recently in college and what campus life is like 291 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.039 as opposed to the rest of us. What have you gleaned from this moment. 292 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:57.279 I mean, it's really interesting. I've had I have friends who are 293 00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:03.720 alumni who just dropped off packages this afternoon to students and faculty at UCLA that 294 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:10.240 needed it. And I also know people who work at Hillel and are with 295 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:12.720 the Jewish Federation who are on standby if needed. And it's a really interesting 296 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:19.279 time to be a passionate college student who cares deeply about something. The problem 297 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:23.440 is there are a lot of outside courses and information is hard to obtain, 298 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:30.240 and I think in this moment, news or outlets or whatever are a great 299 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.640 resource. But I also think listening to people who have lived experiences. I 300 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.519 think that is a really important thing to do in this moment as well. 301 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.279 And I think there's so much information that people get when they go to college, 302 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.039 and sifting through that is really difficult in any decade to be a college 303 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.680 student, and I think it's no different now. You make a great point 304 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:56.640 talking about listening to people with lived experiences, and that range of lived experiences 305 00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:59.640 will vary by decade. And what I mean by that is, I'm just 306 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:00.599 going to get keep it in terms of me. I'm not saying it for 307 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:07.000 anyone else, but I know for me, I have Muslim relatives who are 308 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.799 much older who have a very, very passionate view of what's going on. 309 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:18.039 I have Jewish co workers and friends and extended family who have a very passionate 310 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:22.759 view of what's going on, and they look at this situation through the prism 311 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:26.680 of history as well as the present. I'm talking about four and five decades 312 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:33.559 more of history than these college students may have, and there's a lot of 313 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:36.759 yelling going on, and to your point, Aaron, there's not a lot 314 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:41.720 of listening. And I found it difficult to manage my personal relationships, my 315 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:48.640 professional relationships as we move through this really really uncomfortable moment in history. And 316 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.359 maybe that's not for you to answer to, but I think you said something 317 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.160 which is very very insightful as far as being willing to listen to those who 318 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:00.000 you agree with and those who you don't agree with. But can I ask 319 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.359 you if we can depend on you to give us more updates about UCLA as 320 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:07.759 the night progresses absolutely. I'm here till Robin says I can go home. 321 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:10.599 Well, that means nobody's going home because we want to be here all night 322 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:14.920 long as we cover the events of UCLA and USC. We will have more 323 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.519 in just a moment. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 324 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:26.319 KFI AM six forty, and we're continuing to follow the unfolding situations at UCLA 325 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:32.519 and USC. And let me just make a point here, and I want 326 00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:36.680 to send a shout out to the student journalists on both the campuses of US 327 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:41.920 and UCLA. They are my word embedded in this situation. They have the 328 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:47.079 clearest view of what's going on, and I have to salute them for what 329 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:51.240 they are doing to give me out information which is necessary for everyone involved, 330 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:56.240 and also to record these events as they're happening on USC's campus. It was 331 00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:03.400 just reported by the Daily Trojan and they're up dating their site minute by minute 332 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.759 that the May Day protesters at the Trousdale North Entrance have now also disbanded. 333 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:15.640 People are being allowed onto campus again and back at the encampment. A screening 334 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:21.319 of Primera, a documentary that follows two parent activists abmit a democratic revolution in 335 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:26.400 Chile is about to begin. The two DPS cars that were at Alumni Park 336 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:33.440 have left to stand by that aforementioned North entrance. And also this I didn't 337 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.319 give a chance to make mention of it earlier, but it is relevant given 338 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.000 what we're talking about. In regard to student journalists, The La Times had 339 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:48.920 reported a couple hours ago that four UCLA student journalists were attacked by pro Israel 340 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.720 counter protesters on campus. That's the headline. That's not my interpretation. Four 341 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.599 student journalists I'm reading from the story who worked for the UCLA Daily Bruin were 342 00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:03.720 attacked shortly before three thirty am pro Israel counter protesters during a campus demonstration that 343 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.680 turned violent. We've heard about the moments of that when violence broke out. 344 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:15.960 Daily Brewin news editor Catherine Hamilton, twenty one, told The Times she recognized 345 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:21.279 one of the counter protesters as someone who had previously verbally harassed her and taken 346 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:25.480 pictures of her press badge. The individual instructed the group to encircle the student 347 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:29.160 journalists, she said, before they sprayed the four with mace or pepper spray, 348 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:33.799 flashed lights in their faces, and chanted Hamilton's name as she tried to 349 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:38.119 break three free Hamilton said she was punched repeatedly in the chest and upper abdomen. 350 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:42.559 Another student journalist was pushed to the ground and beaten and kicked for nearly 351 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:48.359 a minute. The attack was first reported in The Daily Bruin. I only 352 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.960 say that to say we appreciate what these student journalists are attempting to do, 353 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:59.160 as in many instances they will be the voice of record. And let me 354 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.039 just bring you into the conversation very quickly, Mark Runner, if you can 355 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:06.880 hear me, Mark, When you were a student reporter, did you often 356 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.960 find yourself in precarious positions? Well, I found myself in them as a 357 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.559 normal adult reporter. I was never a student reporter. But I've covered you 358 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.680 know, wto riots and quite a number of other things like that, and 359 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:25.079 you know, you're always going to have chaos agents who aren't there as part 360 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:27.000 of the legit protest. They want to stir things up, they want to 361 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:32.440 break things, they they want to cause damage. And I'm seeing a lot 362 00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.599 of reports of that in this situation as well, all around the country, 363 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:40.359 not just you uc LA, and so as a journalist, that makes me 364 00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:45.359 want to encourage everybody to remain skeptical of what you read, see, hear 365 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.759 what people say, and try to get to the root of things. You 366 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.039 know, if you read something, click through to the source of it. 367 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.240 And that's just a starting point. I mean, I've been in the middle 368 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.559 of these protests and I've been shot with rubber bullets. I've been tear gas 369 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.079 more than anybody, you know. Just a side note, Yeah, never 370 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:08.039 build up a tolerance for tear gas. Okay, I've had pepper spray and 371 00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:11.559 tear gas. They are not fun. They are unfun. No, no, 372 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.599 they're not. And but you know, and I'm gonna kind of recuse 373 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.440 myself and just stick to news for the most part on this. But I 374 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.720 will say, as a student of history, look at how these things go. 375 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.599 Is it any surprise to you that students are taking a stand on something 376 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.799 they find horrifying, whether it's close to them or internationally. We know that 377 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:38.640 something like thirty five thousand civilians have been killed in this war in Gaza, 378 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:44.759 and of that massive number, about seventy percent are women and children. So 379 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:49.000 you know, we know from the Vietnam protests that this isn't an unusual thing 380 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.960 to happen, right and before we finish out this hour. Let me come 381 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.920 back to Tiffany Hobbes. Tiffany, I had left off with you, your 382 00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:02.319 giving thoughts about your students eighth and nine eighth graders, whether they are processing, 383 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:07.759 whether they are invested in this moment, Do they have any feelings about 384 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:14.880 this campus unrest as it seemingly is escalating. They are intrigued, they are 385 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:19.680 curious, They're a little nervous. They don't understand relativity as well. They 386 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.920 are wondering if the protests are going to make it down to where they are 387 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:32.240 or our school. So there's all of that happening simultaneously. In addition to 388 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:40.119 what Mark said, they're increased sympathy for the thirty five thousand plus civilians who 389 00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:47.240 have been killed in Gaza, So we're teaching that humanitarian side as well as 390 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:52.680 them monitoring what's going on as far as being able to exercise your legal right 391 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.400 to use your voice. But also, again, how does that then affect 392 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:05.000 them directly? So to shield them from the scariest parts but also expose them 393 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:09.400 to the truth is the delicate dance of a teacher, and I believe we're 394 00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:14.559 doing well. It's so fluid that I'm sure there will be lots of questions 395 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:17.839 tomorrow about what's going on, and again, how close to home this would 396 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:23.119 hit or will hit. Mark Rohner said something that kind of hits home for 397 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:29.759 me. We hopefully are curious enough to check our sources. Hopefully we're curious 398 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:34.319 enough to learn the history of America and understand that this moment in and of 399 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:38.559 itself is not completely unique. The issue is unique, but the way people 400 00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:43.279 are raising their voices is not unique. And it's not lost on me that 401 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:49.680 we're only three days away from the commemoration of Kent State and how history may 402 00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.480 not repeat itself, but it does rhyme oftentimes. There are a lot of 403 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:58.759 similarities here going on as far as how young people are raising their voices in 404 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:02.079 a correct and also incorrect way. I would say, but we're going to 405 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:07.480 stay with this story for the rest of the evening. As a law enforcement 406 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:12.119 has taken a more aggressive stance my word, on the campus of UCLA. 407 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.119 They have given the order to disperse. In our reporting from Chris Adler, 408 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:21.119 the students, I should say, those in the encampment number as many as 409 00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.880 three hundred people and have not given any indication that they are leaving. If 410 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:29.480 you've been watching. The news has been made clear by a number of elected 411 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:36.079 officials, from Governor Newsom to La Meroric Karen Bass that they support the protests, 412 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.640 but not the lawlessness or violence which may be connected to it, and 413 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:45.759 they do support what law enforcement has done up until this point to maintain and 414 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:51.599 retain order. We're going to continue to follow this and see where all of 415 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:55.279 this leads. It's KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio 416 00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:00.079 app. No access to grind here. We think we are lumberjacks. How 417 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:06.960 do you even grind an axe? Anyway? K f I M the k 418 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.480 O S T h D two Los Angeles, Orange County, live everywhere on the