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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
back to Trashold you know I'm your host

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Tras now as always, like it
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Uh yeah, as usual. As
I've said before, Tress told you comes

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to you usually about a once a
month, right now. I got a

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couple holidays coming up in the summer, so maybe you'll get me a little

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bit more there. Maybe we'll get
me a little more next year because I

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got a couple other long extended holidays
coming up. But yeah, I uh,

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just that didn't announce this, so
I'm sort of patrons ahead of time

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and ask for questions or anything like
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So if you want to see Maddie, I know you're there, I know

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you're your link, You're probably gonna
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YouTube version? There is not.
You got this this nice looking mug on

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this time, just audio edition.
I'm recording a bit earlier today. I

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got to work a little earlier,
but upstairs the daycare is still going on,

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so that would just be a disaster. So yeah, just the audio

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and just gonna be a quicker one
because some topics day that had come out

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and won as right now, I
ask other geeks. Yeah, I don't

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have much interested in it that you
know. I asked Taylor Uh and Kirkling

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about Matrix five stuff, and then
there's other stuff. Brother, Okay,

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I'm just gonna throw a tres I
told you next week we should have news

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with Cinemacoum, but we don't know
if it's gonna be full episodes or trailer.

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So I thought, okay, I'm
get into a quick little one.

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When you're listening this already on the
feeds, you'll see the X Men episode

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fours up above me. And then
there's side quest sets out, there's planning

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the apes retro. We have the
last of the original Badly apes, and

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then we do have the remake,
the Tim Burdon twenty eleven, two thousand

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and one remake, and it's a
very fun conversation and episode. I say,

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all those have been really fun,
so check those out. But yeah,

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hopefully there's gonna be next news next
week because we do have Geek First

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Day coming up in July and August. We're gonna start now think some big

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stuff there. Just like a big
thank you to all the patrons have voted.

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We're gonna be doing twenty twelve Golden
Geeks for the geek first day we

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should. We'll probably narrow down an
event date soon here so we can just

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stop saying and July beginning of August. But like we said, we're gonna

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do a day to celebrate the nine
year anniversary. That's gonna be lots of

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fun casts, lots of things.
We're announcing, lots of things that I

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don't even know if they're happening,
but just stay tuned. I gotta have

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a word with Taylor because I've been
thinking about some things, sing about the

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things from our past. Things popped
up. They remind me, Hey,

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I have some scores. I gotta
settle. You know what does that mean?

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I don't know, but you'll have
to find out. Tune in to

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find out when we'll post on the
YouTube or Twitter, but not if it's

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a big development. But yeah,
I'm trying to think there's anything else as

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usual. Head down below for everything
you know description Patreon definitely head over there.

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You can get all the soon to
be all the Mad Max retrospective soon

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to be all the or the new
Planmates retrospect is on there. Soon we'll

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be doing Alien, so that'll be
fun. I don't think there's another retro,

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I think, but we've done lots
of retros this year, so lots

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of good stuff. After nine early
ad free exclusive episodes which will record an

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episode after Night or the originals and
soon Brentan Butter which we're gonna do our

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X Men Fantasy Cast draft but with
the villains this time. So Magneto,

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Sinister, Apocalypse, Mojo, thank
you for checking out those episodes. That's

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been really good, because I think
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X Men episode one and two is
are close to second or second behind Dune,

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which is because I feel like,
what if did you know? Good

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enough? But I feel like we
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that, and that was kind of
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less so even with other animated stuff, but with the X Men, the

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hype's been there, and I think
it's also just because they've been great episodes,

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so people want to talk about,
right, So yeah, check that

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out, but yeah, let's get
into it. I'm just talking gonna do

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a quick fire of talking about these
because there's news, but there's not like

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news to like dig the teeth into, like, oh, here's a huge

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book report on why this person is
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that, but it's three things that
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as a movie that with Matrix five
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a while before we got anything like
that, we got a cast or silver

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surfer. People are you know,
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They shouldn't be mad for X,
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into for really any reason at all, I guess unless you're like a loser.

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But we'll get there as well.
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well, let's the other thing I'm
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already. Oh Supercowl director. Yeah, we're gonna talk about that, which

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is an interesting choice. Another like
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like touchy subjects in a way where
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usually not on Twitter, but when
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notification because I have notications on for
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films one, so I see that, do a little scroll. All these

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topics we're talking about today have like
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a ho hymn you know, some
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maybe not any warranted. We'll see. The other thing to promote is I

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think you everyone that checked out a
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well for you know, I never
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what happens after the fact when we
add at a wrestling season rates the most

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poplar season in wrestling for a long
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definitely since the Attitude Air, I
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will probably Wrestle May thirty with the
Daniel Bryant stuff, which is the restume

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of season. But yeah, we're
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we're gonna record an episode Sunday morning
because it's very tough me, SPOS

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and David all different time zones.
But WRESTLEMANI happens Saturday and Sunday night.

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We are going to Sunday morning record
our night one review of on Sunday morning.

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It's gonna be nine am PST.
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It'll be for sure myself and David
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Might be a little late for him, but we'll see when it ends.

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Well, it's a fun. Check
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myself s Pub's David. It's it's
nice because I did like talking wrestling loon,

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but I much like geek first.
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this one because one we don't know
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these topics are probably more travs oriented
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it is fun to talk about,
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about what the two guys and then
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and stuff. So yeah, let's
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start with Silver Surfer, right,
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cast again. This is what I
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an embarrassment riches. We live in
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old Fantastic forecast great cast in its
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like, yeah, this is a
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you got Jessica Alba, Ian Garfufford, Michael Chicklist, Chris Evans, right,

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good roles. I think Chris Evans
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that, right, And I think
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good at times. But I wouldn't
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seen a performance, so I go, man, they could be one of

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the best actors even just in that
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can say that about Vanessa Kirby.
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I feel like I could say that
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I don't know if I've seen that
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seen great performances. So there's that
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And don't get me wrong, I
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tucker for a life. I think
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think he was like a perfect doom
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greatest and among other things, right, But for me, when you look

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at Julia Gardner, it's not Jennifer
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Hailey Bailey thing. It's like it
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Gardner, she's somebody that And there's
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It's funny when we're about her nanny
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fucking whatever that chest thing with Annie
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either, which are prime for me, and same thing with Ozark. It's

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been on my list. I think
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next year, me and Emily if
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even this year. But she's somebody
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Americans, one of my favorite shows
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and she starts with this little role. Now the character, of course does

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grow over time. Think with the
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when she's in more season, she's
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like, excuse me if I felt
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be something little, but this actress
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too a great amount, but seeing
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I was like, she's got the
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GV juice, right, She's somebody
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I'm gonna probably do it next year. That that actors March madness saying I

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wanted to just got busy. I
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probably because the movie got pushed around
like later on, and then that was

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just spent busy time editing that and
doing that. So next year I will

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and I want to make it.
I want to be prepared. I didn't

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want to throw out a list.
I really want to sit down because there's

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times where I made a list of
the best actors actresses, then a couple

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days later I forget them right.
So I'm gonna probably make a year list.

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see. To me, it's like
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because I've seen more. I guess
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I just saw in Royal Hotel.
She was really good in that. Her

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with Jessica Henwick. I gotta see
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the realm of if we're talking about
like Golden Geeks, the contenders, there's

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the nominans and they're contenders, the
best actors as actors around. She's definitely

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to me in the conversation, she's
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role and you don't see the actors, which is great. I'm not saying

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there's a bad thing if you do
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building stage just too. Even Crol
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her as an up and comer,
Like, absolutely, I think she's somebody

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that we're gonna be seeing for a
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very talented, very good at what
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and the Americans, she's not in
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but that role is so impactful.
That's when I first took upon Okay,

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gonna keep my eye out on her, and then she's just continued to

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do good work. Right, So
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Now, the Silver Surfer is an
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because there there's been multiple Silver Surfacers, right, Silver Surfers. There's been

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some multiple Silver Surfers, and there's
multiple iterations. And also there's the Herald

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of Galactas. So we had heard
lots of reports from everybody of oh,

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it's this film, it's this film, this film's gonna be the surfer.

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Well, actually it's a Hall of
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can get a little confusing at times, but I will bring up, what

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is the character's name she is playing
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the Excuse me if I got this
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of the silver Surfer. Now for
the history lesson, this is gonna be

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me throwing darts. For the history
lesson, check out Marvel Lions. I

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always love Chris and Brent. Go
check out their X Men reviews. But

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Chris will do his whole rigamarole where
he gives you the whole backstory, right

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because I was talking to him about
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I get into some other stuff that's
kind of pointless, but you know,

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it's easy to point out because people
are easily dumb. I don't want her

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to get caked and make up and
cegi. Now I know what people will

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say, Oh, well, Josh
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know, Bradley Cooper. There's these
great performances with people in cGy R voice

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absolutely saying that I'm not if you're
telling me that's what's gonna happen, And

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if she's gonna be let's just say
silver the whole time. I'm not gonna

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say, well, I'm not excited
and she's gonna stuck on roll. No,

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we've seen it many times. For
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Surfer or even Thanos, I think
Brolin is a good actor. I've talked

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about this with Clay because he was
very excited he's gonna be in Weapons that

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the Barbarians. Directors fall up,
right, And I really like bro And

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there's times where I think Brolin is
great. I just think, and it's

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it sounds weird, but for me, uh all, when I've seen juliaut

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Gardner, she's just kind of always
great and maybe i'd have to see a

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couple bad or just kind of men
performances. Bro I think a lot of

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times get type cast and he plays
a similar character, right, But I

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think he's still very good, don't
get me wrong. And I think it

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all depends on the role. I
think sometimes when he gets typecast too much,

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it's the same. But I think
he was fantastic at Thanos. But

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I don't think it's a way where
not anybody could have not done that right.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the
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with Silver Surfer and Silver Surfer to
me is the same thing as like Rocketcru

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and Badley Cooper is like he's never
gonna do that. He's established star him

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as a voice as Rocket, you
know, a raccoon. Perfect that works

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for her being established, like trying
to establish herself as a bigger star,

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and also just to show off the
acting chops. I want to be more

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like King where kay, you got
the blue vies that can pop in and

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out, but I don't want their
face covered, you know. And if

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that's the case, fine, I'll
roll it. If it's a fifty to

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fifty, that's great. And I
think it's way I get the way I

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get. We all get older.
I'm not separate, we're all getting older.

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But for me, I think the
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that's why Fanos it's like a different
version, right, because there's stuff with

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any circum, any circus as Gollum
and Caesar. I'm not saying it can

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be a bad thing. So if
it happens, okay, I wish they

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went the human route. I know, because Chris and I every talmas,

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Oh well, this version is this, that and this versus that. I

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don't give a fuck about versions.
You could do whatever you want, right.

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I think it's also better to be
less confusing, to make her not

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silver maybe all the time, make
it a feature, because then when you

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bring in the actual silver surfer,
it's like, that's the iconic life.

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They can do whatever, we'll see. But it's like they can make up

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whichever route they want to go.
As I've said before many times, the

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comics books are not this Marvel mcu
is not supposed to be six one six

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but figgy, and many people say, oh, it is a six one

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six. I don't care about that. I knew that's the way they viewed

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it, and I've always said that, so I don't have a problem with

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that. I don't care. Some
ways, I don't care if like,

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oh, well, they can't look
human because that's this version. I don't

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give a flying fuck. If I
had my preference, I want her in

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the face because I want her in
the face. I want her face to

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just show that emotion. You can't
get that from a golf from a Thanos

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not saying you can't, but it's
just a preference. Right, especially if

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it's someone that's trying to establish themselves
as an agent and actress, you might

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want to do that, right.
The biggest example for me, and that's

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why I always get worried when we
talk about Doom and they need the mask

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and I get it, But was
we got Force Awakens and Adam Driver's great

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in that even when you had that
one on the voice, the body movements

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was great. Then we got Last
Jedi and we got to see and I

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knew Adam Driver her go, but
we really got to see him go in

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that role. And I think majority
of us, I feel it leaves me

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and Kirkland for sure, we're heavy
on. When we got episode nine,

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it's like, oh, yeah,
cool, we're getting the mask. Yet

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no, we're getting the Kyle Ren
mass back. It's a little broken,

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so it got some cool red lightning
on it whatever, Like we're thinking of

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the child mind of like, oh
cool badass character, right, and then

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in the movie he's like, man, I really miss him not having the

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mask. So that's why I preference. And that's what is better about Athanos

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about a Gallum, right, because
it is just a face, so it's

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not just like a Doom mask.
So I'm not saying it's impossible, but

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I just hope that's not the case. I hope that I don't need the

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silver serve for all the time to
have that. To me, it's the

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same thing as like the Batman with
the white slid eyes, like, no,

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get that shit at of here.
I don't like. To me,

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it's like, that's great if you
think it's more comba acrid. I'm looking

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for what works better for the movie, and on screen, half the time

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that stuff doesn't work nor look good. So that's where I don't want them

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to like, oh my god,
cause it looks exactly No, no,

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no, get that out of here. That's like, if you want exactly

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animated projects, video games, com
books, you got that, you know.

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I understand. More so with certain
costumes if they look very far off,

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like the X Men in two thousand, with hey, they're all black

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and leather, I get that.
But then there's certain things that I was

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like, let's let's push pass on
right, so we'll see great casting.

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And the thing is she's playing a
character that does not because that's happened already,

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right, He's like, wow,
she's silver surface a female. We

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had heard this before. That they
were casting potentially a silver surf for those

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female Now it doesn't look like they're
turning Nora and Rat who is like the

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qui essential who you would picture ball
guy all silver on the surfboard. Right,

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She's somebody which I didn't even know
because my Fantastic four surfer knowledge not

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that great. Never been a big
F four fance. That's why I always

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say, excuse me, check out
Google, check out Marble Alliance. They'll

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fill you in for me. Her
being a love interest of him. That's

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cool, that's great. Maybe it's
not one none, maybe she's around.

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And if not, that already confirms
like, oh well, because there's been

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this rumor going around, right that
the Fantastic four movie is going to be

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in a different universe, the same
way as how there's like the eight three

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eight in Doctor Strange. Let's just
say it's a nine to one nine in

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Fantastic four, and something will happen. They'll get sucked in six one six,

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Who knows, but that's the word
going around kind of more and more

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it seems like the rumor operating that's
gonna be a different universe. I'm fifty

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to fifty on that because I feel
like it's almost like the back end time

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but kind of a cheat. But
sure, let's see. But even then,

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if it was the six one six, she's not playing the Nora and

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Rad silver Surfer like the classic looking
one, right, so that's one and

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then two if she was. I
guess I can say this because I don't

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care about this for that much,
but I just from what I've read and

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from what I've saw an experience with
Silver Surfer. Even though they did say,

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hey, we're gonna make it Nora
Rad, I don't know if there's

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anything about the character that has to
be a man. And I know there's

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gonna argument that, oh, well, man, if we turn a woman

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into man, I get it.
I understand why the dynamic of gender swapping

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a female to male would definitely people
might outcry about that, right, But

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that's also because there's a lot of
more males dominating the front lines of the

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com books and the movies, and
especially in this day and age, when

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you have multiple people being like,
we gotta go back to the original characters

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and the class of characters, that's
almost like a nice way them trying to

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be an asshole and be like,
we gotta go back to when men were

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leading it, like that's not what
we need and it would just be Silver

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Surfer. I don't see Silver Surfer
supporting their own project anytime soon, but

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I could be wrong, and even
then kind of so what you know,

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I don't know, and I guess
it's different for me because I don't care.

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And then there's other versions of characters
that have gone lots of versions where

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you say, hey, why don't
you just make your own Silver Surfer that's

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a female. It's like, well, that's what it sounds like's happening,

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but all the outlets are most of
them are reporting you know, what's her

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name Julia Gardner as playing Silver Surfer, which is okay right away, pill

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jump to you, oh, there
can't be a man Surfer. And again,

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I guess I don't really care that
much. I guess, like in

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general, like when I care and
get worked up of stuff, there's a

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few things I do, but honestly, like we're having fun. We're having

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a good time, even even that
worked up or upset about movies. The

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good thing is like if you genuinely
care about Nor and Rad and Silver Surfer

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and you feel like, man,
they're tarting me. Might change this character.

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Don't watch it and read the decades
worth of comic books of a male

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Silver Surfer whose cock is not out. Don't know where it went, you

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know, And that's fine if you
if you want to get rid of it.

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But why is it not flapping on
the round the ward like Doctor Manhattan?

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Right? But the point is,
like to get that worked up over

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Silver Surfer, even if it was
just the version you know them love being

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a female? All right? Cool? Like what is it? Really?

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Is a character gonna be good?
Is gonna be compelling, gonna be well

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acted, well directed, well written. That's what I'm looking for. So

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and again, media literacy, you
just have to read a couple of more

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paragraphs and specific says it's this version
and I don't know. And even then

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you could just say it's the regular
Silver Surfer because it's a different, different,

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different universe. I'm gonna say that
we might not see his character carry

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over then if it is another universe. Garner to me, does strike me

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as somebody that and I don't know
her, don't know her agent. I

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just know a little about her career, been following it since. Like I

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said, the Americans, I don't
know if she's somebody that I scream seeing

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being in a bunch of them,
So it could to me be a one

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off established get some bag, you
know. That's always a good thing,

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And I think Fantastic four is a
bigger one. We've seen lots of slights

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lately from actors or people just say, hey, the MC's not what it

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used to be, and it's definitely
not, but F four could be a

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bigger one. I still think there's
a lot of general audience that's not care

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about the F four like we do, or even hardcore combok fans because I

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don't even care. But they have
a chance to make that big right and

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as we've seen with X Men ninety
seven, there's a chance kind of like

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the old is new again and nice
X Men F four they could be the

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future and the thing that really revitalizes
the franchise. Right, So all around,

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to me, it's great, this
cast is shaping up really well.

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This is getting to the point now
where if it's like man like, just

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like a seven at ten, I
will be disappointed. That's the next thing.

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If she is like the villain and
type role whatever it may be.

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Maybe she's not, but if she
is, I need that well written.

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I don't want some one note.
You know, I won't say Hysteria was

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note, but hella, you know
something like that where you have when the

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Grace actress of all time Cate Blanchette, and hell's good, she's fun,

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but it's just missing a little something
and there's a little more focus that could

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have been given that character. Right, so we will see. Let's stay

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in the superhero room, Supergirl.
Let me get the guys him because this

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sounds terrible that I don't know his
name, because he's directed a lot of

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good things. Let's see itany let's
bring it up here. Who's directing Itania

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but Craig GILLIPSI, so he has
quite a good resume. I did not

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even know he did Lars and the
Real Girl or did he write it,

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because i'd seen that coming up today. Let's see producer. No IMDb always

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giving the producer credits first. I
know it's great be a producer or anything,

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but like, no, I need
Yeah, he directed Lars in the

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wood really directed Mister Woodcock Wow Fright
Night, which I had actually never seen

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the remake. I've been thinking about
it lately. He did a bunch of

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he did some million dollar arm he
you know, he's he reminds me of

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like, uh, this sounds bad
like but like a lesser than Joe Johnston.

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Uh. And then he did dumb
Money, which I did not see.

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He did it Tania, which I
loved. Mark Robbie as I said,

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should have wanted Aid did Carell,
which I thought was was good,

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was decent. So let's see there. So yeah, that that seems what's

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about to be it. I know
it seems like they were doing Crell too,

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but yeah, director of it,
Tanya Lars and the real girl dumb

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money million on their arm. Uh, Carella, I think I said that.

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Uh what was it? Yeah?
Itania? I think I got them

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right. That was what came out
today in Deadline is that supposedly Q four,

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after Superman is done filming, they're
gonna go on Supergirl and get that

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moving. So I'm gonna say Supergirl
is looking like a twenty twenty six if

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everything goes a quarter to plan,
right, So I'm of two minds of

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this. We talked about this a
little bit discord, and I've been talking

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about this four years. Right,
which way do I want to go?

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I guess I can kind of just
roll this into one one. I'm happy

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just productions going on. That's great. That's like, you know, because

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a lot of people have done they're
like, well, James, just stop

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talking. I want to see.
And yes, there's part of me that

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agrees. I don't need him to
answer the same Batman question. I don't

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need, you know. I try
to avoid it, but I feel like

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either Clay or Chris or je Chat
is always posting screenshots of him on threads,

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and I'm all, he's like,
oh, most time, whatever he

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says, I don't give a fuck, Like it's just like it is a

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bit like I almost got over work, and that's a good thing saying.

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Off social media, it happens less
than but because that or comes up a

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vodka stream where it's like it's just
like there's nothing that important that he's saying

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here, right, But this stuff, this report, which as of this

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time, is this recording. He's
not shot down. So if you're listening

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this in the morning and James Gunn
said absolutely not true, then this is

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all no and this is after the
fact. But I was recording at the

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time, right, But so that
stuff I don't care about. I think

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that did add to a little bit
of stop talking. Just show us.

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If Supergirl and Superman are in productions
within six months of each other, pretty

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much, that's good. That's a
good sign. We got Creature Commandos.

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We'll see about other stuff. But
it's been a lot of Hey, things

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have been announced and there's been moving
on stuff, right, but things have

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been announced, but really the only
thing in production right now is Creature Superman

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and Peacemaker two or about like that. We've heard like, oh, well

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the end of the year, it's
gonna shoot. It was a lot of

405
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:33,400
gun projects, right, even Millie
getting casting. Most of us figured,

406
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,279
well, that's because they're gonna shoot
something for Superman. Right. So that's

407
00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:41,079
the thing where it's like, okay, getting a director with some experience that

408
00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:42,839
this does it seems more not a
pipe tream, but it seems like it's

409
00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:45,480
actually happening, right, And it's
also the thing where we go, Hey,

410
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,759
Warner Brothers could be bought, This
DCU thing could be or DCU think

411
00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:53,759
could just be thrown out just be
you know, a pipe dream. Anytime

412
00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:59,279
we hear more about directors, actors, writers, productions starting up, Q

413
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,359
four dates, stuff like that,
that's where we go, Okay, it's

414
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,640
becoming more and more believable this might
actually happening, and it gets harder to

415
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240
take away. Right. I'm not
saying Superman Legacy, which I'll probably call

416
00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:12,599
Superman legacy for a while, or
Supergirl. I'm sure they could get like

417
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,000
a tax right off if Warner Brothers
are going to be bought, But it's

418
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:18,279
kind of that thing of hopefully it
just gets made come out and they're both

419
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:21,880
good. I don't be rushed,
but Warner Bros. Is in a very

420
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,480
sticky spot, and as we've lost
a Backrol movie, you just never fucking

421
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:29,279
know, right, So I think
that is a good thing where I get

422
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,119
more excited about the DCU hearing a
director. Of course most people do,

423
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,519
right, But like Gun, answering
questions over and over doesn't do much for

424
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,240
me. Even him posting stuff that's
great, he's posted off him fun.

425
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:42,200
I don't care because I don't follow
him. I'm not on threads and you

426
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,640
know I don't have He's not on
Twitter, so I don't see anything there

427
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,559
or anything. But like that,
like casting stuff, that's the stuff that's

428
00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:52,039
actually to me exciting. This stuff
is like, okay, when you get

429
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:56,480
a director that does have some good
merit, that's exciting. Where for me,

430
00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:00,400
this guy not like knocking out of
the part other than I take which

431
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,400
you did, knock it out of
the park. All stuff is like decent,

432
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,200
right, But it's like I kind
of got a feel, and like

433
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,519
I said, I feel like it's
Joe Johnson, maybe lesser than where Joe

434
00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:11,960
Johnson. I know what I'm gonna
get, and I guarantee it's probably at

435
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,640
least gonna be good, which is
a good sign. And it's somebody that's

436
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,799
not like a as much as I'm
for, especially someone that's directing movies.

437
00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:22,440
Now, newcomers getting a shot,
we know, sometimes that's them getting bullied

438
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,359
around, right, And I prefer
the Ryan Coogler method, Fruitfeld, Station

439
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,359
Creed than a Marvel movie because then
it's like, Okay, not only have

440
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,599
they got some hood SPA and some
experience under their belt, we kind of

441
00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:38,839
see a style establishing with them,
right when it's like this guy's directed three

442
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,519
music videos and here you go,
you go well okay, and even the

443
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:45,480
TV shows, I know, people
go, you gotta get experience somewhere.

444
00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:48,119
Yeah, But I still personally,
as a fan, would prefer to see

445
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,599
just even one one movie first,
right, this guy, we got a

446
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,680
whole platter to pick from. Go, okay, this is what you know.

447
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,880
I'd say all these movies are at
least good passable, even the movies

448
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,799
I've not seen, like a dumb
Money or Fright Night. People most of

449
00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:04,440
them give it like a thumbs up. I don't have anybody on the man

450
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,240
Fright Night. The remake was just
awful. I've actually heard good things about

451
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:15,880
it, so that gets me more
excited now where the controversial thing is happening.

452
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,240
And that's where I also was surprised
that it is a male director.

453
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:22,960
I thought for sure, in this
day and age, that it would be

454
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,440
a woman director because I think there's
a pro and call to this, and

455
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,680
people will probably dig me on stuff
i've said before because I say, oh,

456
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,960
I'm all for it, because X, Y and Z. When people

457
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,000
get mad, when they're like and
it's tough. Right, I'm a white

458
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,799
straight man. I can't talk about
the stuff because people brought well, you

459
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:41,920
don't want token ism or you don't
want to be just simply a higher for

460
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,480
the diversity. I get that because
I've always said when people we've talked about

461
00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:49,880
this a few times, right when
it is Hey, they're looking for an

462
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,240
act Let's say it's a white character, right, and they're looking for an

463
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:56,119
actor, and they say, we
want a non white actor, you know,

464
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,000
non concasian acting people. Oh,
they're not looking for the best job.

465
00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:03,680
There's awful for me. It's like
we live in a Hollywood society for

466
00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,680
many decades that there could be ten
people in the room, right, and

467
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:10,240
let's say they're all white guys,
and there's one black and he gives the

468
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,319
best audition, he's the best for
the role, but because he was black,

469
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,880
he did not get said role.
Right. So that's why I was

470
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,720
always fine with kind of okay,
let's, of course, in any medium,

471
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:22,519
should be the best person for the
job, but there's many times in

472
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:26,880
the past it was not. So
I was always fine with kind of bouncing

473
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,720
that pass. I'm going, okay, if you want to specifically want to

474
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:36,240
have people of color to show some
diversity and have some different you know,

475
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:41,119
voices and feelings and culture in here, I'm always fine with that. Like,

476
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,079
it's not to me a big deal
of they because and again that's the

477
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:47,519
difference right where I was gonna say
Spider Man, but look, they may

478
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,920
have Miles Morales and that's been so
important that community. But I'm never gonna

479
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,279
get bad, and that is the
ideal way, right, But I'm not

480
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,599
gonna get mad if they say,
hey, the next days, mom,

481
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,640
we won't be black. Oh that's
ol. Ray should be the best man

482
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,839
for a job. Well, dear
fucking you're being seconds white peeping now.

483
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:02,839
I don't give a shit, man, we got how many years of bond?

484
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,599
You know, Like it's not again, these are fake things for entertainment.

485
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,599
It's not gonna ruin my day that
much, you know, or at

486
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,400
all? Really, but really it's
like I'm past point where that doesn't get

487
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,519
me fired up in that sort of
way. Like there's anything you'd be annoyed,

488
00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:18,480
like a Ralph Boner, right,
I could be annoyed air time ringing

489
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:22,079
up. This is fucking stupid,
yeh yeah. But by then day,

490
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,200
once I get off the podcast or
we're not shouldn't shooting the shit in the

491
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,480
discord, I move on my life
and I live and then we talk about

492
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,200
other things. Right. So for
me, if you ever get that upset

493
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,799
again, just turn off this podcast, close your computer, turn off your

494
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,960
phone, just go get some life, Just go go experience, go do

495
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:41,720
something go for a jog, make
some food, make a nice pizza,

496
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:48,200
pizza really good. Right. So
I will say though in this culture where

497
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,640
we are, where it has been
the opposite of the reverse, right,

498
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,839
some people out this arave we've gone
too far the other way. I don't

499
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,279
necessarily agree on all aspects. I
think there's somewhere it does go too far

500
00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:02,279
where it feels very preach right and
in a way where even people that community

501
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:04,440
will go, hey, this is
exactly what we want it or this feels

502
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,400
like a little ick either way or
doing it right. So for me,

503
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,640
it's tough where I thought it would
be a woman director, and I've seen

504
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,160
a lot of that where I really
man or woman or non binary. I

505
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:18,880
can't say that for sure, but
I've seen enough fuel on my timeline and

506
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,920
around say hey, this should have
been a woman director, right for X,

507
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:25,880
Y and Z. I can agree
with that to an extent, and

508
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,359
I'm never gonna push back about that. Soy, yeah, sure I could

509
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,559
see that moment there. The opposite
pitch as well, you know it,

510
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,480
Tanya and Corelli works really well,
all the females yet DA that works.

511
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:38,200
That's great with me. What I'm
hoping for is the perfect role with Peele

512
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,000
Pitch, and not in the way
that people all the time will be should

513
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,880
be the best person for the job. Most of those people that say that

514
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:48,440
are saying when they hint of racism, they're saying it with a hint of

515
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,519
being prejudiced, a hint of well, it's not a white person. But

516
00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:53,000
I can say this and almost on
racist because like, of course the best

517
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:56,480
person should be on Yeah, of
course, But I'm still fine out as

518
00:29:56,519 --> 00:30:00,519
a director, this is a female
project. We want a director voice that

519
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,960
is a female to connect the dots, right to I can tell a story

520
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,319
about a female, but I'm never
gonna know a female's feelings, thoughts,

521
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:11,400
body, anatomy more than an actual
female, right. I guess maybe a

522
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,960
doctor per se, But it's a
doctor gonna direct Supergirl. I don't fucking

523
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,440
think so, right, So let's
use our nongins here. So I'm fine

524
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,400
if it's we want the female to
have voice. Now, I am completely

525
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,920
fine with a male doing this.
What I'm gonna double down is what I've

526
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,680
said many times. Then I want
and maybe this is the best example because

527
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,640
it has a director. But let's
say Anymoschetti drops out right, I want

528
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,039
to be a situation where it is
a female can make a Batman movie.

529
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:41,960
Because at the same time, I
understand if they say we want this to

530
00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:45,359
have a female voice, But I'm
not saying no man in the world can't

531
00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:49,039
tell a female story. Now in
the I'm writing a movie right now.

532
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:52,880
Our fault for our third one it
has a female character as the lead.

533
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,440
My hope is right now. If
not, it's gonna come down maybe the

534
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,279
downline as far as another movie,
it's just the time you've made sure this

535
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:03,440
works with the actress. But and
I'm gonna partner with her because we say,

536
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,440
hey, you know read this.
You know they'll probably get a co

537
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,920
writing great because I want to say, hey, you know, how does

538
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,799
this feel for you? Get to
da da. But we've seen many great

539
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:15,160
directors, male directors make female stories. We've seen great One of my fair

540
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,839
movies all time is American Cycle that
is directed by a female, And that's

541
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:22,839
almost perfect because that's like, hey
about men being shitty. This is almost

542
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:26,079
great that we have a female doing
this, right. Kate Aaron, who

543
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:30,279
did Loki, She's a female.
She killed She fucking killed Loki Season one,

544
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,359
which I thought was been in season
Two. I think that there is

545
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,559
certain projects where hey, this might
be better for a man, a female,

546
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,000
or even like an ODDS binary.
Right, there might be Hey,

547
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:44,559
this specific experience is very tied to
a gay character, a trans chector.

548
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400
We feel someone from the community should
be the voice to shepherd this. It's

549
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,880
different strokes for different folks or different
projects. Right, I shouldn't say folks.

550
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,720
That doesn't rhyme anymore. But not
every project is one to one.

551
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,759
So that's what I hope is Okay, If because I don't want to be

552
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,160
we get to the DCU, let's
say we get all the projects in ounce

553
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,039
for gods and monsters and all of
them be directed by dudes, and I

554
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:08,960
go, okay, maybe that should
have been super Girl. And I've never

555
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,279
read Woman Tomorrow, so maybe the
people that have, if they feel strongly,

556
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:16,359
hey, this should be a woman's
one, I will lean to them.

557
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,880
I'll have to read the story first, and I could understand that,

558
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:23,640
right. So, but for me
that I do want the actual, real

559
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:29,720
version of the best person for the
job, because I'm sure there are hundreds

560
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:34,279
of women out there that could write
and or direct a killer Batman movie.

561
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,559
And the good thing is the way
I talk about Hey American Cycle, right,

562
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,079
I think if a man directs that
movie, sure there's some things,

563
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:45,559
but it might be very different,
the same way as a man directing Batman

564
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:47,279
could be different than a woman dreking
Batman because they might have a different view

565
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:51,039
or experience and they might not who
knows. But that's where it's like,

566
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:53,400
let's spread the wealth a little bit. We talk about this in discord where

567
00:32:53,400 --> 00:33:00,720
Okay, who oh were we trying
to figure out? I got to punish

568
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:04,599
your warzone, Lexie Alexander did that, But we're trying to figure out non

569
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,559
TV if there's any other female to
superhero directors, and I don't think there

570
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:14,839
has if so you can't for male
superhero sorry you can count them on one

571
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:21,160
hand. That should definitely change whatever
whatever may be, Swamp Thing, Batman,

572
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:23,519
Booster Gold, whatever it may be. And I want to see more

573
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:27,680
of the film because TV not saying
that's not valid, but we've just had

574
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:30,960
less of it in film. That's
hope this means, and I hope in

575
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,279
the next six months two years something
comes out. We're gonna announces a male

576
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:40,039
hero that is being directed by a
Kate Heron an Emerald Kennel, you know,

577
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:46,799
not a Chloe shoo a, a
fucking Zeldo Williams. You know like

578
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:51,480
that. That's my hope. So
this is where I have to circle back

579
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:54,160
in the future. So on that
hope that that's going to happen. I

580
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,559
can say this is a good choice. Is it? Like a knockout?

581
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:01,519
Gets me super excited? You know, it's a solid this will work,

582
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,640
could be great. It's not a
home run taking the sex out of it.

583
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,639
For me, it's not a home
run. I think there's other people

584
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:12,320
you could get male wise, even
that I'd be more excited, Like I'm

585
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,960
not. This doesn't it gets me
excited. It's the fact if it's moving

586
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:21,760
and they're happy that was in the
article, that they really like the pitch

587
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,360
he had or the angle he had, that's great. Maybe that is the

588
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,840
case where it gets to a situation
where and I will I guess I'll take

589
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,159
that back. There's more directors I
would have got excited for, but at

590
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,039
least for other directors made this caliber
or something like I Tanya, I really

591
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,960
really really enjoyed. So that's where
I go, Okay, that does give

592
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,480
me hope where actually he could make
a killer, super Bowl movie, a

593
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:44,840
movie that I go could be like
a top you know, Twain to fifty

594
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,480
combook movie, which is crazy to
say, but there's been so many of

595
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,840
them, Top twenty to fifty.
That's like a Harald place to be in,

596
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,320
right, Like that's a good spot. So like that we're hearing this

597
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,360
news. Gun hasn't debunked it yet. I'm fine with it being a male

598
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,519
director. If a female is gonna
tell me, I really would have preferred,

599
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:04,239
especially with the story, to be
a female director. I can't say

600
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,159
you're wrong because I'm not a female
and I have not read Supergirl Woman of

601
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,639
Tomorrow. And even if you feel
either way just in generally want of that,

602
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:15,760
that's fine too. There's nothing wrong
with like feeling like the first project,

603
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,559
the DCU that is a super like
a female led project. I would

604
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,320
have preferred a female director that I'm
not well you know, you know O

605
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,519
male can do it, you know, Tory. No, it's like this

606
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:30,119
again fictional stuff. So I understand
kind of all sides except for the asshole

607
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:34,679
sides. But I understand why.
Uh there's you know, the go ahead

608
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,960
and the pushback. But let's see
the well spread, let's see, like

609
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,360
I said, next calendar here,
let's let's recircle back this. I hope

610
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,039
I'm wrong. I don't know if
I ever remember this, s pubs.

611
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:46,119
If you're listening marks on a calendar
that that sounds lazy. I could just

612
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:50,000
put on my own calendar. Maybe
I will. I will my geek Frist

613
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:57,199
calendar April third, twenty twenty five. If we circle back and there's been

614
00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:01,639
no female for a film, I'll
say or non binary person announced to direct

615
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:07,400
a male character, then I'll say, uh, yeah, that was a

616
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,360
mistake because it's not perfect, right, so we'll see. I'm happy it's

617
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,199
going, uh because I like the
creditials. Enough, let's see. Speaking

618
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:22,360
of films, you know swaps between
you know, sexist to another person.

619
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:28,559
You have the Wachowski's not coming back
from Matrix five, which is crazy because

620
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:34,079
one of them came back for last
time. We're getting Drew Goddard directing Matrix

621
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,880
five. I'm I'm sure this was
not anything I was expecting because scoopers were

622
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,239
hinting today that something was coming out
with Drew, so I was like,

623
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,559
okay, And it was about the
SPIDERMN thing because he was like the first

624
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,880
and I wonder now because what we
got justin Lynn there was a list,

625
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,239
right. I wonder because in like
Snyer's report, he said like, oh,

626
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,719
it was like three to four or
something, right, or I think

627
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,079
somebody did. Maybe I'm wrong.
Either way, he was on a list,

628
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:01,480
he came up. Doesn't sound like
he is happening anymore. Drew Goddard,

629
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,920
He's directed two things. He's directed
Cap in the Woods, and he

630
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:10,239
is, Oh my gosh, I'm
really blank on either one. Cat in

631
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,119
the Woods great? Oh attempts were
isn't it? Oh my god? What

632
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:22,960
am I blanking on? Here?
Is it? Bad times? Bad times?

633
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,599
Saying on dead Air, dead Air, bad times? The it was

634
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:31,039
bad times. I fucking love bad
times. Rol I fucking love Cavi in

635
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:35,039
the Woods. I love a lot
of stuff he's written. I just watched

636
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:38,679
The Martin at the Martin, The
Martin, the Martin, Laurence Storry No,

637
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,679
the Martian. He started Daredevil season
one, directed a few of those

638
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:47,119
episodes. He's great. I thought
he was a fantastic choice for Spider Man.

639
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,320
He's definitely someone I was pulling for. So that's a disappointment. But

640
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,400
I've mentioned before on here on Vogas
Stream because Drew Guard comes a few times.

641
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,719
It's just like a running joke now
that Drew Godard is never gonna direct

642
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,519
a super thing, right, because
he's rumored for spider Man four, And

643
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:07,840
let's go back a month, a
couple weeks even he's rumored for Spiremn four

644
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,119
and he's in the writer's room,
the brain trust for the DCU, right,

645
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,800
and he's not directing a DC or
a Spider Man movie. It's very

646
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:21,920
interesting. It's very funny that he
almost directed Sister six. He started Daredevil

647
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,840
but had to leave that, and
I think there's another project in there.

648
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,000
I'm not sure if it was four, but there was another one in there

649
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:29,880
where he was attached to for well
and even though it was just rumored,

650
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,000
it went a different way. Maybe
it wasn't even a DC one. But

651
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:37,440
he's been attached to three or four
different combook properties. It just doesn't happen.

652
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:39,400
And that could be by his choice, right, smart guy. If

653
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,119
he goes Hey, even that Senator
sixth thing he didn't hapen could have been

654
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:47,239
smart. Right. So he's producing, writing, directing in the Machowski's are

655
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,039
executive producing. I think they'll have
a couple of notes here and there.

656
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:57,360
But ah, this is interesting because
so the pitch is nice where you know,

657
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,360
he says, been a fan all
my life. But that's tough,

658
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,280
right, It's like everyone has been
a fan of the day. I questioned

659
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,360
you, as a film fan,
if you don't have to even love the

660
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,320
Matrix, but at least appreciate for
what it is. If someone does not

661
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:13,559
like the Matrix, like overall's a
liking the movie and doesn't you know,

662
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:16,880
not liking it for okay, a
favorite versus quality. If they don't enjoy

663
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,920
the movie and also don't understand it's
merits, I question you. I'll be

664
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:28,159
film snobby. I question your judgment
on films if you can't give the Matrix

665
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,480
on credos for or kudos for either
the quality or just enjoying it. Right,

666
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,360
So everybody's gonna say, oh I
love the Matrix, Right, But

667
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,719
the hope is he said, oh
I inspired I me. The hope is

668
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,880
it is one of these Hey,
this is something that grew up had an

669
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,159
idea it would be like for me. Eh, I don't I don't want

670
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:50,440
to throw that out there because it's
always bad. You just throw out that

671
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,199
stuff. I've learned that Hollywood,
Right. But there's definitely some things where

672
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:55,119
I'll make all my own ip but
there's some things where it's like if you

673
00:39:55,199 --> 00:40:00,079
got thrown this and like, hey, what would you do with it?

674
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,440
It's like, man, I've been
thinking about since I was seven years old

675
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:06,239
what I would do with this?
And that's the hope with Drew got it

676
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,960
with this right now. It was
written as and this is just the first

677
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:14,360
report, so who knows could change
early on, could never happen even but

678
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,119
it was reported as an extension of
the franchise. So that's the thing where

679
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:23,320
we don't know what does that mean. Does it just simply mean another Matrix

680
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:30,360
movie extends a franchise by another one
being in existence? Does it mean it's

681
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,559
something in that world, whether it's
ah god, a prequel which I don't

682
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:38,719
want, but we could easily easily
go down that righte that route, right

683
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:43,679
they love that shit. And now, don't get me wrong, we got

684
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,199
we're doing the Planet's retrospective right now. It can't happen. There was a

685
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,639
time where it's like you know that
joking scream too, where it's like name

686
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:52,360
a good sequel and they try,
you know, they get there eventually.

687
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,039
Nowadays it's like, oh, you
can name so many sequels that are better

688
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:59,079
than originals. For a while,
I think when this podcast started, I

689
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:04,320
was the guy that said Amy five
great prequels, and it's like it was

690
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,519
hard to name one that to me
was on par or as great as the

691
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:12,559
originals. Right, even the plan
Apes. I don't think any of them

692
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:15,800
are on par with the original original, but they're pretty damn good. So

693
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,320
I give that the pass yep that
is a great story, so not saying

694
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,199
it can't be done. I think
the beginning of the Matrix and everything is

695
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:29,199
just kind of almost one of those
almost like explaining the origins of a horror

696
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:34,360
movie monster. Do you want to
know how everything started? Because it might

697
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,559
be a little disappointing, right,
I think there's just certain things where it's

698
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,079
like it's Bear left the imagination and
the stories told in those movies. But

699
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:45,360
that could be it or is it
simply a fifth one? Is it a

700
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,599
continuation as far as other characters in
that world that know Neo, is it

701
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,559
Neo and a Trinity because they did
fly away saying they're gonna stop all the

702
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,280
Matrix or whatever shut it down right
at the end of a resurrection where they

703
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,679
fly together and they're gonna, you
know, do their best to free the

704
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,360
world. Is it that I don't
know. I'm kind of game for anything

705
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,800
other than the prequel. I'll be
honest. I like Drew Goddard. I

706
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,320
trust him. So it's at least
somebody that if they announced it is gonna

707
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,280
be a precrod go uh Like,
it's like like a bruise you pull but

708
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,280
eventually had a heel and maybe I
don't know if you're like a stronger after

709
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,000
your bruise. And that's something I'm
making up. But he is a name

710
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:27,199
that I okay, I'll give it
a shot. I'll wait to the movie,

711
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,400
but you gotta sell me if it
was one of them was making a

712
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,480
Matrix sphakicle and it's like what we
talked about before, where it's and guy

713
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:37,119
that's directed three music videos but people
really like him. Is here? I

714
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:40,079
go, well, not really,
like, this is not the vision I'm

715
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,480
expecting here, right for a prequel? Other stuff that may be sure,

716
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,480
and you could you could keep it
a smaller budget. People might go,

717
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:50,679
wow, the Matrix. You can
if you make it a lot a lot

718
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,159
of it take place in the matrix
and do a little bit more of a

719
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:55,320
heady version and you take out some
of the action, but Matrix you still

720
00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:00,519
need that, right, So yeah, I'm kind of down for whatever.

721
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,599
Of of course, not preferring a
prequel, but I'm fine if it's neo,

722
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:05,800
fine, if it's characters around the
world. Find if it's a completely

723
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,719
new story, and I find if
it's a reboot, even then I'm kind

724
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,880
of fine because like again, the
class like that title Siner right there,

725
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,199
like Matrix reboot very easy to do, you know. Like so I'm I'm

726
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:22,719
open. I like the Matrix overall. I like it's a two for two,

727
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,559
right because before it's like I like
the concept of the Matrix. You

728
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:28,039
got one great movie and then you
got two and three, which take a

729
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:30,480
lot of swings, lots of big
ideas, but maybe not necessarily the most

730
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:36,119
fine two machines resurrections I liked.
I just watched it not too long ago

731
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:38,920
again sometime last year. I still
enjoyed it. It does not reach the

732
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,880
heights of Matrix one, no,
but it does some really cool things and

733
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,159
there is aspects to that movie where
I, oh, wow, they Warba's

734
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:51,480
let to make this Like there's a
lot of poking fun at Warnabas very directly,

735
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:53,320
not almost like a dead poole.
Ah, I'm a little joke at

736
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,440
of sin. It'ce like no,
like they make warbas seem fucking like idiots

737
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,599
in that movie. Now again Matrix
Flipsy can go, oh, that's just

738
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:04,599
like a fake version. We wouldn't
be like that, right, but it

739
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:10,159
has that. I'm very curious because
goodt Gonnard is. I don't know if

740
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:14,440
I want to say master that seems
a bit much. But even when he's

741
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,719
not directing many great movies, he's
written the script of Right. You look

742
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:23,119
at his like, let's go down
quickly. What is I'll pull it up

743
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:25,639
here. But even then, for
me, it's like I did not think

744
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:28,960
this was gonna happen, because I'll
have to pick it up. I thought

745
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,760
after Matrix four it was done.
Let's get his credits here. This is

746
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,559
the time I actually want the other
credits, imd are you gonna give me?

747
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,000
Oh? It's producing again? Who
would have thunk? Okay, writer,

748
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:42,719
let's see so yeah, he wrote
Dreed Well, he wrote Bad Times

749
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,440
l Royal, he wrote one episode
of Defendit. He's wrote the Martian World

750
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:52,000
war Z. Cavin Woods some Buffy
Vampire Sayer Episodes, Lost Episodes, Cloverfield

751
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:54,639
Angel, Buffy Vampire Alias, which
I did like in today. So on

752
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,760
the World war Z, I've seen
pretty much everything this guy has done,

753
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:04,880
and I love that the Sinister Six, it's still in development. He has

754
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,239
that on his credit. I think
someone can remove that, but you never

755
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:13,079
know. So yeah, again,
I'm not gonna say a master because I

756
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,760
like and really enjoy a lot of
the stuff, but none of it is

757
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,639
like score Sazi, you know,
Aaron Sorkin level. Those to me are

758
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:24,280
like some of the masters and stuff, right, Tarantino, master, Screamer,

759
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,880
even scor says, I'd put more
in the director category. Right,

760
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,840
So I wouldn't say master, but
really really good and I respect his work.

761
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,599
But that's the other thing. Let
me brow up major resurrections. Now,

762
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:37,440
we talked about this in their discord
where it was a COVID movie.

763
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,960
But you have like, look at
this, and I'm not gonna do a

764
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:45,039
box office conversation. Uh, but
Godzilla, I guess I am, But

765
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:49,119
I mean, like a box office
segment Godzill x Kong whatever, some sort

766
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:54,719
of empire that movie that came out. Let me take a look here.

767
00:45:55,679 --> 00:46:00,119
Let's get this going here, just
to give you an example of why I'm

768
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,639
curious. So the numbers, right, Let's see if we can get the

769
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:08,880
day to day. So did the
opening week Oh my god, opening weekend

770
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:16,320
for the Matrix was ten million?
Holy sheet, I did not remember that.

771
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,800
I thought I was a little more
than that. Is that true?

772
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,800
Oh boy? So let's even good
more info. But here's the thing,

773
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:34,320
and I'll talk about what is it
here? I will talk about god'sil Versus

774
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,800
calling for a second here that movie
it wasn't COVID times, but that made

775
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:45,079
thirty seven million? Right for the
twenty twenty was it? I'll just say

776
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:50,880
the year COVID came out made thirty
seven million on its opening weekend. That

777
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:54,079
was during COVID time at some of
its heights. That was COVID time,

778
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,719
or that was that time where it
was also on Ahbo Max. Lots of

779
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,960
things going on, right, Okay, So yeah, opening weekend, Jesus

780
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,800
wheeze. I was trying to find
like a if there was like a day

781
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,079
by day one too, But either
way, ten million. But the point

782
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:14,760
is, walk with me here.
Thirty seven for godzil Versus Kong, then

783
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:20,519
Godzilla X Kong comes out Day one, thirty one million. The opening weekend

784
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:23,320
was projected as forty to fifty end
up making what like a high seventy low

785
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:30,000
eighty. Almost doubled maybe did double
its projections right to me, the main

786
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:37,440
and that was Godzil people clearly like
Godzilla and Cang fighting teaming up. Whatever.

787
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,639
If you look at those movies before
twenty fourteen, Skull Island, King

788
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:46,679
of Monsters is all going in the
opposite direction negative reaction. Right, it

789
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,519
was going down those movies. I
think we're losing hype and the box office

790
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:53,679
was going down. And that was
a rumor going around that they had already.

791
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,559
It was like a bvs. Just
League situation where they were working on

792
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:01,199
Godzilla versus Call already before King Monsters. And there was almost some kind of

793
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:05,000
regret because I thought, oh,
this is not getting the numbers we want.

794
00:48:05,639 --> 00:48:07,559
I don't know if we should have
done this. And I told Taylor

795
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:09,280
manytimes cast enjoy this, this is
probably it, and Taste, I'm just

796
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,639
happy we're getting what we're getting.
That movie comes out pretty much saves the

797
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:16,440
franchise because it's a hit in COVID
numbers. Right, it's a hit for

798
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:20,519
COVID, so they go, we'll
make another one. See what it makes

799
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:23,800
in the you know, regular times
when people are healthy and stuff right and

800
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,280
the virus is lessened. And clearly
they're seeing the fruits of their labor,

801
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,960
because I think we'll end up making
more than god zilvers Gong and it costs

802
00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:34,760
less. So bravo to them.
I didn't watch it. I'll watch it

803
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,119
at home. I have no interest
after god z Ola MIAs want to go

804
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,760
spend at the theater a couple hours
and spend money. Absolutely not. But

805
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,400
good on them. They're doing the
right thing, lower budget, higher money.

806
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,760
So for me, that's where Mikey
brought a great point. If it

807
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,360
was at COVID mood, it was, but you have the combo of that

808
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:53,039
same month, not saying it needed
to be this, but that same month

809
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:57,400
Spider Man, you know, comes
out, goes on almost make two billion

810
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,119
dollars. So that shows right there
you're gonna have big hit movies. And

811
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,960
even the matrix was the size of
Godzilvers's Gong, which I would have thought

812
00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:07,360
that if you would have asked me. I don't think we were doing the

813
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,360
draft back then, right, No, we weren't during COVID. I think

814
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,679
we did after. But if you
were asked me, hey, what's gonna

815
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:15,480
do better? Matrix or Godsovers is
gong with the downward trajectory of the Monster

816
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:20,199
franchise, with Matrix being gone for
so long, being such a classic movie,

817
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:22,599
and with Keanu Reeves, who's never
been hotter since John Wick or because

818
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:27,360
of John Wick. To me,
it's a slam dunk Matrix Resurrections has in

819
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,639
the fucking bag. And that's why
that's where a time where sometimes studios are

820
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,920
right or whatnot, where they go, hey, God's Olvers is gone and

821
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,320
the regular times that could make some
money, and it is. And to

822
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,039
me, it's like, if it
can make money in COVID times with this

823
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:43,840
reduced audience, then it can make
money in the good times, and that

824
00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:47,320
is happening now. Maybe they just
view could be a lower budget, but

825
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,800
maybe they view Matrix the same way
as a victim of circumstance with Spider Man

826
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,239
and COVID. But still I did
not. I thought Matrix was done good

827
00:49:55,519 --> 00:49:59,840
by like a nice send off to
me, better than two and three.

828
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,440
I was happy with it, happy
the direction they went. I like the

829
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,280
majority of the film. Like I
said, it's nowhere a classic, but

830
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,480
I enjoyed it. I did what
I told Taylor to do of you know,

831
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:15,039
enjoy Matrix Resurrections, because that's what
you did for a while. I

832
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:17,599
know that came out, what twenty
twenty one, we are three years later

833
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:21,119
and they've announced a new one.
Now, this will still still be several

834
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:24,280
years, but now it's gonna be
very curious to what they do because it's

835
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,920
not like God's Eelversus Calling, where
at least if it bombed like this one,

836
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,239
you'd kind of go Okay, it
made money in COVID. We thought

837
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,519
it would make money here, it
didn't. We're wrong. Let's put this

838
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:37,880
on ice. They're going with the
KA. It didn't make money COVID,

839
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,519
but we still believe in this franchise. Let's see now. To me,

840
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:44,280
I will say this, and I
could be wrong. If this movie comes

841
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,719
out and also eats it, then
it's really over. Because they took the

842
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:53,559
dice roll twice. I imagine they
lost money on Matrix Resurrections, because I

843
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:57,519
guess every movie lost money on COVID, right, But like the World Wide

844
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,920
was one fifty seven, and that
was like even let's pretend Matrix resurrections.

845
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,760
Let's pretend let's pretend there's no marketing
budget, no delay budget because of COVID,

846
00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:15,400
just production budget listed on Wikipedia's one
ninety made one fifty nine, one

847
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,199
fifty seven. I got conflicting numbers
here, but still even then, it's

848
00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:22,239
a forty million dollar loss and one
fifty nine for the Matrix. That's like,

849
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:29,719
I don't know again when a fucking
like, I know this was weird,

850
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,119
but Scream five, like, I
know you might think, why do

851
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:37,599
you think of that? But still
like or Scream six here, let's see

852
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:44,519
what Scream six made, made one
sixty nine. That what came out in

853
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:47,480
twenty twenty three, So I'm guessing
yeah, Scream five was twenty twenty two,

854
00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:52,199
right, so it was more after
COVID. But still like, again

855
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,880
you think that's what I guess they're
gonna be saying, right, is it

856
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:59,239
was the COVID numbers, that's what
happened. But even here's a better example

857
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:05,000
to me. Twenty two January,
so a month after the Matrix, a

858
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:09,159
movie that's twenty four million dollars made
one hundred and thirty eight million. Matrix

859
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:14,119
resurrections only made twenty more million than
Scream. That doesn't make sense to me.

860
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:20,800
So it is. It is definitely
something where I would for sure,

861
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,760
and it's because it's true. Godard, I go. Okay, I trust

862
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,360
it. I'm excited. I want
films we made. I like the franchise,

863
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,039
so let's see. It's always down
for new take. It doesn't hurt

864
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:30,039
the original. Yes, you could
say, oh, hollywoods obsessed with IP.

865
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:32,280
Do we need this? No,
but we don't need any movie.

866
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,199
I'm not saying there's so much mine
the table I need it. No,

867
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,840
I'm happy with Matrix, but I'm
good to see. Okay, where else

868
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,440
can we go? But if I
was in the board or in the decision

869
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,199
make process, I go. Unless, like I said, the pitch is

870
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,480
a very reduced budget smart way to
do it, I would question, oh,

871
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,800
is this the right move? I
don't know. I feel like Matrix

872
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:58,039
came out and showed maybe the time, Maybe nineteen ninety nine was the time,

873
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,280
and it's better left lying there,
right, But we'll see. I'm

874
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,320
excited to see what happens again.
We don't need it. I didn't need

875
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,119
another one. People that that was
the other thing I saw. I'll say

876
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:10,039
like, oh my god, Warner
Brothers and everybody knew. I pe like

877
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:17,719
that, like it's gonna keep happening. That's how it's gonna keep happening till

878
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,639
you go. And you can say, oh, I support, that's good,

879
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:22,800
get your friends to everything. It's
gonna keep happening for the rest of

880
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,519
your life. They will go with
the sure bet. I had to explain

881
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:30,599
to my sister so much, Oh
why now do I just Sidney Swingy Chelly

882
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:32,320
and all these new da da da, Because she's just like a movie general

883
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,559
audience person pretty much. But I
had to break it down of like,

884
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,079
well, you have a guy who
was in Wonka and Dune and they do

885
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:42,480
really well, so the studios will
go, hey, let's make a movie

886
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:45,519
with that guy. And because they
do things very well, you know IP

887
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:51,000
is gonna be around forever. And
that's the thing. Vote with your wallet.

888
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:53,960
I'm somebody that sees, as long
as I got time, the things

889
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,079
that I'm interested in, Like this
tonight I'm seeing or tomorrow seeing Monkey Man.

890
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:04,079
Right, I will see the the
biggest IP fucking I'll go see Matrix

891
00:54:04,159 --> 00:54:07,719
five, the fifth one that yeah, sure we don't need. But I'll

892
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,079
also go see monkey Man, make
sure you do those same things. And

893
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:12,880
you know what, if you're somebody
and I'm not on that side, here's

894
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,760
the thing what I did. God
Zilvers is gone. I don't I don't

895
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,280
need this anymore. I stop seeing
it. If you look at Matrix five

896
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,079
and you feel that passionate that,
I'm so sick and tire fucking IP.

897
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,119
Matrix does not need another sequel.
Resurrections was a perfect send off. I

898
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:30,119
don't feel comfortable with seeing those with
the Chelseky's not being fully involved. Then

899
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,440
vote with your wallet, because then
if Matrix fies, bombs and I'm not

900
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,199
saying I want that for the cast
and crew, but I'm saying that's the

901
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:37,400
only way you can really send a
mester with the studios. So then if

902
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,039
a bomb, so theyll go,
Okay, we don't need to do more

903
00:54:40,039 --> 00:54:44,360
Matrix. This IP is not a
thing. Let's leave it where it was

904
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,480
in nineteen ninety nine. Right.
So I'm excited by the writer. I'm

905
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:50,039
curious what it's gonna be. I
definitely want to hear more of the pitch

906
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,960
the casting. So I am excited
just based on the writer. But there's

907
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:58,519
more like the prequel like some casting
where I with Keanu and like, if

908
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:00,639
you were to ask me into my
head, which way would I rather go.

909
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,800
I think I'd rather have a new
cast. And I think that it

910
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,719
is the time because it's not like
if Matrix Resurrections did Bonco Busters. I

911
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,280
don't even know what Bonco's Busters mean, but I'm saying it with Reeves,

912
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,559
you go, well, no,
Da, it's the same thing as like

913
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:20,559
for me, if I've of course
I want it and this will be my

914
00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:22,440
last point. And this is why
I'm saying like, I prefer not prefer

915
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,719
if they say comes back great,
I like them as Neil, Let's see

916
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,320
what happens, bring it on.
But the reason I guess i'd go the

917
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,519
other route is you have a I
did like where Neo's story ended, so

918
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:35,559
you don't have to bring him back. I think it'd be fun to do

919
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,239
a new cast. The chosen one
is still thing. Maybe they talk about

920
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,559
him, talk about trending, maybe
they're around, maybe they've passed on.

921
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:44,960
Whatever it may be right, but
I feel like two things, as far

922
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:49,679
as the story to me was completed
well and the box office isn't there.

923
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,400
I get the sentiment. I get
the sentiment. I get why people want

924
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,000
it. I get why people tweet
out all the time Man Warros fucking missed

925
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,880
the boat when they didn't do Batman
Beyond, And maybe they're is a multiverse,

926
00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:05,199
a spaghetti in the multiverse where Keaton
comes back for Batman Beyond and not

927
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,280
the Flash and it's a mega hit, great movie, everyone loves it.

928
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:13,320
This was a maybe maybe there's like
top Gun, right, But now with

929
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,719
what we have the information, you
can't tell me and look at me in

930
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,320
the eye and say they're leaving money
on the table out for the Flash.

931
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,280
Because again, there could be a
multiverse where Gun comes up tomorrow and says,

932
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,400
you know what I want to do
Batman Beyond, Michael Keaton comes out,

933
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,880
it's a massive hit. Possibly,
But if you're going off data points,

934
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,000
and that's what these companies do,
if you're looking at win loss record,

935
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,360
what's working. Hey, Michael Keaton
came back once. How did that

936
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,920
movie do for us? What did
he to do? Not great? Not

937
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,159
great? Oh but he was trading
on Twitter because on Oscars he played Batman

938
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:51,719
for a second. Yeah, yeah, but the movie it didn't pull out,

939
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,119
it didn't have that missaution. We're
gonna see for sure in a couple

940
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:57,440
of weeks or a couple months now, Right, the comparison was and I

941
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,159
think it's gonna do well. But
Toe maguire and Andre Garfield. Okay,

942
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,320
key, now he thought the same
thing was gonna do that. It didn't

943
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:07,000
for whatever reason was the flash the
DCU, whether it is. People don't

944
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,079
care about Keen the same way they
did Spider Man. Let's see about Wolverine,

945
00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:13,880
right, I think people do because
I think Wolverine's kind of like McGuire

946
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,239
and Garfield. McGuire and Garfield was
smart because it hit on two different generations

947
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,960
decades. Right, Hugh Jackman hits
onto those decades alone by himself because he

948
00:57:23,079 --> 00:57:27,679
was in those decades. There was
no passover. It was him. So

949
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,039
that's the thing where it is the
perfect time to reboot. And I can't

950
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:34,679
give you a reason why not to
perfect story ending not perfect. I enjoyed

951
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:37,239
the ending for you, and it's
not a box office draw to get reezed

952
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,800
back do the new cast. I
think that's the best route new direction.

953
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:45,119
Again, I don't want a prequel. Maybe you could pitch me on it,

954
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:47,119
and as Drew Goddard, so I
would at least be interested in,

955
00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:51,840
and I would give him a little
less you know, flack. I would

956
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,360
never give someone flack. I'm not
tweeting this pel but I just mean like,

957
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:58,719
i'd give him more trust. Right, So we'll see. Not an

958
00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:04,119
announcement I was expecting today, really
ever, not ever, but not I

959
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:07,719
could comfortably say at least within five
years, ten years, because we're three

960
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,400
years, it's gonna be four years
soon. If you're asked me, hey,

961
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,480
we'll we get a Matrix movie in
the next ten years. No,

962
00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:15,760
because I thought that's the best time
is wait a little longer, wait till

963
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,599
it's kind of gone, if you
were gonna do it, and then bring

964
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:22,559
it back to like a really new
thing. But the resurrections are still around.

965
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:25,679
But again, who knows that was
Radar where God Silvers's cong was it?

966
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,000
Maybe COVID really did hurt Ahru Max
And maybe this go around it'll be

967
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:34,519
man, we bet on ourselves that
it worked out, So we'll see.

968
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,960
U let me know. As always
the comments discord, what do you thought

969
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,199
about any of this? Yeah,
thank you very much for listening. Again,

970
00:58:40,239 --> 00:58:43,880
so I couldn't shout out a put
out a post for questions or whatnot.

971
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:46,719
But next week we'll be too trest
toold you. No no, no

972
00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:51,280
no. Two episodes of the Gimmick
trustold you. I think you know.

973
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,199
Maybe I'll put up so out here
or there. We'll see. But thank

974
00:58:53,239 --> 00:58:57,599
you very much everyone that listens.
I very much appreciate, especially because now

975
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:00,719
it is like a reduced episode count
stuff. But I appreciate you is hearing

976
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:02,920
my ramblings for a little bit,
and when you hear for next I'll I'll

977
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,320
be boring.