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about Matrix five stuff, and then there's other stuff. Brother, Okay,
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out, but yeah, let's get into it. I'm just talking gonna do
a quick fire of talking about these because there's news, but there's not like
news to like dig the teeth into, like, oh, here's a huge
book report on why this person is No, no, no, it's not
that, but it's three things that to me are for me interesting as far
as a movie that with Matrix five being made that I thought was gonna be
a while before we got anything like that, we got a cast or silver
surfer. People are you know, excited, maybe a little mad about that.
They shouldn't be mad for X, Y and Z, which will get
into for really any reason at all, I guess unless you're like a loser.
But we'll get there as well. And then oh oh and also before
well, let's the other thing I'm talking about my goodness, wife I've forgotten
already. Oh Supercowl director. Yeah, we're gonna talk about that, which
is an interesting choice. Another like Touchyes, I feel like all these are
like touchy subjects in a way where I've seen because, as I said before,
usually not on Twitter, but when some news breaks, I'll get the
notification because I have notications on for like my messages and certain Twitter accounts discussing
films one, so I see that, do a little scroll. All these
topics we're talking about today have like a hint of not controversy, but like
a ho hymn you know, some warranted, some not. We'll get into
maybe not any warranted. We'll see. The other thing to promote is I
think you everyone that checked out a couple of weeks ago the gimmick did very
well for you know, I never know what the wrestling show and we'll see
what happens after the fact when we add at a wrestling season rates the most
poplar season in wrestling for a long time since maybe the Attitude Air, right,
definitely since the Attitude Air, I would say maybe the closest. This
will probably Wrestle May thirty with the Daniel Bryant stuff, which is the restume
of season. But yeah, we're doing two episodes. If you're listening this,
we're gonna record an episode Sunday morning because it's very tough me, SPOS
and David all different time zones. But WRESTLEMANI happens Saturday and Sunday night.
We are going to Sunday morning record our night one review of on Sunday morning.
It's gonna be nine am PST. And then Sunday night after WrestleMania too.
It'll be for sure myself and David Spbub's pretty sure he can make it.
Might be a little late for him, but we'll see when it ends.
Well, it's a fun. Check out the first episode Wrestling Predictions with
myself s Pub's David. It's it's nice because I did like talking wrestling loon,
but I much like geek first. Like with this cast, I'm doing
this one because one we don't know what the next newscast is, and too
these topics are probably more travs oriented where we're wrestling same thing. It's like,
it is fun to talk about, but it's also more fun to talk
about what the two guys and then also anybody that bounce off has some questions
and stuff. So yeah, let's get into it. Let's start with let's
start with Silver Surfer, right, Okay, so Fantastic four get the stack
cast again. This is what I say about everybody. We are just have
an embarrassment riches. We live in an era where not to put down the
old Fantastic forecast great cast in its own right in a way as far as
like, yeah, this is a movie cast, but to me, who
you got Jessica Alba, Ian Garfufford, Michael Chicklist, Chris Evans, right,
good roles. I think Chris Evans killed that. Many people talk about
that, right, And I think they're all good in them right, very
good at times. But I wouldn't say angy of them to me. I've
seen a performance, so I go, man, they could be one of
the best actors even just in that year right of when they existed. I
can say that about Vanessa Kirby. I can say that about Pedro Pascal.
I feel like I could say that one day about Joseph Quinn Evan lass background.
I don't know if I've seen that out of him, but I've also
seen great performances. So there's that and then the person playing the villain.
And don't get me wrong, I love Julie McMahon. I'm a fucking nip
tucker for a life. I think he should have been bigger. I actually
think he was like a perfect doom casting. Just that script was not the
greatest and among other things, right, But for me, when you look
at Julia Gardner, it's not Jennifer Gardner, so it's like the Halle Bailey
Hailey Bailey thing. It's like it screws me up full time. But Julie
Gardner, she's somebody that And there's some things I still need to check out.
It's funny when we're about her nanny Tailor Drew. I've not watched The
fucking whatever that chest thing with Annie Taiar Joy, have not watched Inventing Anna
either, which are prime for me, and same thing with Ozark. It's
been on my list. I think me and the wife are gonna watch it
next year, me and Emily if I have it on the list, or
even this year. But she's somebody that I saw in god On with the
Americans, one of my favorite shows of all time, top ten show,
and she starts with this little role. Now the character, of course does
grow over time. Think with the story, it's very small, and even
when she's in more season, she's not into that much. But it felt
like, excuse me if I felt like the character was meant to kind of
be something little, but this actress was so good that it did expand not
too a great amount, but seeing her that and then among other things,
I was like, she's got the good. She's got as we said the
GV juice, right, She's somebody that I and I apologize the patrons.
I'm gonna probably do it next year. That that actors March madness saying I
wanted to just got busy. I know, we always got busy. It's
probably because the movie got pushed around like later on, and then that was
just spent busy time editing that and doing that. So next year I will
and I want to make it. I want to be prepared. I didn't
want to throw out a list. I really want to sit down because there's
times where I made a list of the best actors actresses, then a couple
days later I forget them right. So I'm gonna probably make a year list.
And she's somebody that I don't know. This is why I have to
see. To me, it's like I have to see him Indiana and Ozark
because I've seen more. I guess I was gonna say older work, but
I just saw in Royal Hotel. She was really good in that. Her
with Jessica Henwick. I gotta see more of those. But she is in
the realm of if we're talking about like Golden Geeks, the contenders, there's
the nominans and they're contenders, the best actors as actors around. She's definitely
to me in the conversation, she's somebody that can just really slide into a
role and you don't see the actors, which is great. I'm not saying
there's a bad thing if you do see the actor like a Nick Cage,
right, we love that, right, But I think she is in the
building stage just too. Even Crol put it in a report like Hollywood reviews
her as an up and comer, Like, absolutely, I think she's somebody
that we're gonna be seeing for a long time. I think she's very,
very talented, very good at what she does. And that's why for me
and the Americans, she's not in it that much and has a minor role,
but that role is so impactful. That's when I first took upon Okay,
gonna keep my eye out on her, and then she's just continued to
do good work. Right, So she was cast as the Silver Surfer.
Now, the Silver Surfer is an interesting and quite annoying character as well,
because there there's been multiple Silver Surfacers, right, Silver Surfers. There's been
some multiple Silver Surfers, and there's multiple iterations. And also there's the Herald
of Galactas. So we had heard lots of reports from everybody of oh,
it's this film, it's this film, this film's gonna be the surfer.
Well, actually it's a Hall of Girl galact as yet Da da. It
can get a little confusing at times, but I will bring up, what
is the character's name she is playing here? That's gonna hear so she's playing
the Excuse me if I got this wrong. Shalla ball, Shalla ball iteration
of the silver Surfer. Now for the history lesson, this is gonna be
me throwing darts. For the history lesson, check out Marvel Lions. I
always love Chris and Brent. Go check out their X Men reviews. But
Chris will do his whole rigamarole where he gives you the whole backstory, right
because I was talking to him about this today where my only hang up before
I get into some other stuff that's kind of pointless, but you know,
it's easy to point out because people are easily dumb. I don't want her
to get caked and make up and cegi. Now I know what people will
say, Oh, well, Josh Rowland's done it, Rocket Raccoon, you
know, Bradley Cooper. There's these great performances with people in cGy R voice
absolutely saying that I'm not if you're telling me that's what's gonna happen, And
if she's gonna be let's just say silver the whole time. I'm not gonna
say, well, I'm not excited and she's gonna stuck on roll. No,
we've seen it many times. For me, when I talk about Silver
Surfer or even Thanos, I think Brolin is a good actor. I've talked
about this with Clay because he was very excited he's gonna be in Weapons that
the Barbarians. Directors fall up, right, And I really like bro And
there's times where I think Brolin is great. I just think, and it's
it sounds weird, but for me, uh all, when I've seen juliaut
Gardner, she's just kind of always great and maybe i'd have to see a
couple bad or just kind of men performances. Bro I think a lot of
times get type cast and he plays a similar character, right, But I
think he's still very good, don't get me wrong. And I think it
all depends on the role. I think sometimes when he gets typecast too much,
it's the same. But I think he was fantastic at Thanos. But
I don't think it's a way where not anybody could have not done that right.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way I look at that same thing
with Silver Surfer and Silver Surfer to me is the same thing as like Rocketcru
and Badley Cooper is like he's never gonna do that. He's established star him
as a voice as Rocket, you know, a raccoon. Perfect that works
for her being established, like trying to establish herself as a bigger star,
and also just to show off the acting chops. I want to be more
like King where kay, you got the blue vies that can pop in and
out, but I don't want their face covered, you know. And if
that's the case, fine, I'll roll it. If it's a fifty to
fifty, that's great. And I think it's way I get the way I
get. We all get older. I'm not separate, we're all getting older.
But for me, I think the biggest switch over to that was And
that's why Fanos it's like a different version, right, because there's stuff with
any circum, any circus as Gollum and Caesar. I'm not saying it can
be a bad thing. So if it happens, okay, I wish they
went the human route. I know, because Chris and I every talmas,
Oh well, this version is this, that and this versus that. I
don't give a fuck about versions. You could do whatever you want, right.
I think it's also better to be less confusing, to make her not
silver maybe all the time, make it a feature, because then when you
bring in the actual silver surfer, it's like, that's the iconic life.
They can do whatever, we'll see. But it's like they can make up
whichever route they want to go. As I've said before many times, the
comics books are not this Marvel mcu is not supposed to be six one six
but figgy, and many people say, oh, it is a six one
six. I don't care about that. I knew that's the way they viewed
it, and I've always said that, so I don't have a problem with
that. I don't care. Some ways, I don't care if like,
oh, well, they can't look human because that's this version. I don't
give a flying fuck. If I had my preference, I want her in
the face because I want her in the face. I want her face to
just show that emotion. You can't get that from a golf from a Thanos
not saying you can't, but it's just a preference. Right, especially if
it's someone that's trying to establish themselves as an agent and actress, you might
want to do that, right. The biggest example for me, and that's
why I always get worried when we talk about Doom and they need the mask
and I get it, But was we got Force Awakens and Adam Driver's great
in that even when you had that one on the voice, the body movements
was great. Then we got Last Jedi and we got to see and I
knew Adam Driver her go, but we really got to see him go in
that role. And I think majority of us, I feel it leaves me
and Kirkland for sure, we're heavy on. When we got episode nine,
it's like, oh, yeah, cool, we're getting the mask. Yet
no, we're getting the Kyle Ren mass back. It's a little broken,
so it got some cool red lightning on it whatever, Like we're thinking of
the child mind of like, oh cool badass character, right, and then
in the movie he's like, man, I really miss him not having the
mask. So that's why I preference. And that's what is better about Athanos
about a Gallum, right, because it is just a face, so it's
not just like a Doom mask. So I'm not saying it's impossible, but
I just hope that's not the case. I hope that I don't need the
silver serve for all the time to have that. To me, it's the
same thing as like the Batman with the white slid eyes, like, no,
get that shit at of here. I don't like. To me,
it's like, that's great if you think it's more comba acrid. I'm looking
for what works better for the movie, and on screen, half the time
that stuff doesn't work nor look good. So that's where I don't want them
to like, oh my god, cause it looks exactly No, no,
no, get that out of here. That's like, if you want exactly
animated projects, video games, com books, you got that, you know.
I understand. More so with certain costumes if they look very far off,
like the X Men in two thousand, with hey, they're all black
and leather, I get that. But then there's certain things that I was
like, let's let's push pass on right, so we'll see great casting.
And the thing is she's playing a character that does not because that's happened already,
right, He's like, wow, she's silver surface a female. We
had heard this before. That they were casting potentially a silver surf for those
female Now it doesn't look like they're turning Nora and Rat who is like the
qui essential who you would picture ball guy all silver on the surfboard. Right,
She's somebody which I didn't even know because my Fantastic four surfer knowledge not
that great. Never been a big F four fance. That's why I always
say, excuse me, check out Google, check out Marble Alliance. They'll
fill you in for me. Her being a love interest of him. That's
cool, that's great. Maybe it's not one none, maybe she's around.
And if not, that already confirms like, oh well, because there's been
this rumor going around, right that the Fantastic four movie is going to be
in a different universe, the same way as how there's like the eight three
eight in Doctor Strange. Let's just say it's a nine to one nine in
Fantastic four, and something will happen. They'll get sucked in six one six,
Who knows, but that's the word going around kind of more and more
it seems like the rumor operating that's gonna be a different universe. I'm fifty
to fifty on that because I feel like it's almost like the back end time
but kind of a cheat. But sure, let's see. But even then,
if it was the six one six, she's not playing the Nora and
Rad silver Surfer like the classic looking one, right, so that's one and
then two if she was. I guess I can say this because I don't
care about this for that much, but I just from what I've read and
from what I've saw an experience with Silver Surfer. Even though they did say,
hey, we're gonna make it Nora Rad, I don't know if there's
anything about the character that has to be a man. And I know there's
gonna argument that, oh, well, man, if we turn a woman
into man, I get it. I understand why the dynamic of gender swapping
a female to male would definitely people might outcry about that, right, But
that's also because there's a lot of more males dominating the front lines of the
com books and the movies, and especially in this day and age, when
you have multiple people being like, we gotta go back to the original characters
and the class of characters, that's almost like a nice way them trying to
be an asshole and be like, we gotta go back to when men were
leading it, like that's not what we need and it would just be Silver
Surfer. I don't see Silver Surfer supporting their own project anytime soon, but
I could be wrong, and even then kind of so what you know,
I don't know, and I guess it's different for me because I don't care.
And then there's other versions of characters that have gone lots of versions where
you say, hey, why don't you just make your own Silver Surfer that's
a female. It's like, well, that's what it sounds like's happening,
but all the outlets are most of them are reporting you know, what's her
name Julia Gardner as playing Silver Surfer, which is okay right away, pill
jump to you, oh, there can't be a man Surfer. And again,
I guess I don't really care that much. I guess, like in
general, like when I care and get worked up of stuff, there's a
few things I do, but honestly, like we're having fun. We're having
a good time, even even that worked up or upset about movies. The
good thing is like if you genuinely care about Nor and Rad and Silver Surfer
and you feel like, man, they're tarting me. Might change this character.
Don't watch it and read the decades worth of comic books of a male
Silver Surfer whose cock is not out. Don't know where it went, you
know, And that's fine if you if you want to get rid of it.
But why is it not flapping on the round the ward like Doctor Manhattan?
Right? But the point is, like to get that worked up over
Silver Surfer, even if it was just the version you know them love being
a female? All right? Cool? Like what is it? Really?
Is a character gonna be good? Is gonna be compelling, gonna be well
acted, well directed, well written. That's what I'm looking for. So
and again, media literacy, you just have to read a couple of more
paragraphs and specific says it's this version and I don't know. And even then
you could just say it's the regular Silver Surfer because it's a different, different,
different universe. I'm gonna say that we might not see his character carry
over then if it is another universe. Garner to me, does strike me
as somebody that and I don't know her, don't know her agent. I
just know a little about her career, been following it since. Like I
said, the Americans, I don't know if she's somebody that I scream seeing
being in a bunch of them, So it could to me be a one
off established get some bag, you know. That's always a good thing,
And I think Fantastic four is a bigger one. We've seen lots of slights
lately from actors or people just say, hey, the MC's not what it
used to be, and it's definitely not, but F four could be a
bigger one. I still think there's a lot of general audience that's not care
about the F four like we do, or even hardcore combok fans because I
don't even care. But they have a chance to make that big right and
as we've seen with X Men ninety seven, there's a chance kind of like
the old is new again and nice X Men F four they could be the
future and the thing that really revitalizes the franchise. Right, So all around,
to me, it's great, this cast is shaping up really well.
This is getting to the point now where if it's like man like, just
like a seven at ten, I will be disappointed. That's the next thing.
If she is like the villain and type role whatever it may be.
Maybe she's not, but if she is, I need that well written.
I don't want some one note. You know, I won't say Hysteria was
note, but hella, you know something like that where you have when the
Grace actress of all time Cate Blanchette, and hell's good, she's fun,
but it's just missing a little something and there's a little more focus that could
have been given that character. Right, so we will see. Let's stay
in the superhero room, Supergirl. Let me get the guys him because this
sounds terrible that I don't know his name, because he's directed a lot of
good things. Let's see itany let's bring it up here. Who's directing Itania
but Craig GILLIPSI, so he has quite a good resume. I did not
even know he did Lars and the Real Girl or did he write it,
because i'd seen that coming up today. Let's see producer. No IMDb always
giving the producer credits first. I know it's great be a producer or anything,
but like, no, I need Yeah, he directed Lars in the
wood really directed Mister Woodcock Wow Fright Night, which I had actually never seen
the remake. I've been thinking about it lately. He did a bunch of
he did some million dollar arm he you know, he's he reminds me of
like, uh, this sounds bad like but like a lesser than Joe Johnston.
Uh. And then he did dumb Money, which I did not see.
He did it Tania, which I loved. Mark Robbie as I said,
should have wanted Aid did Carell, which I thought was was good,
was decent. So let's see there. So yeah, that that seems what's
about to be it. I know it seems like they were doing Crell too,
but yeah, director of it, Tanya Lars and the real girl dumb
money million on their arm. Uh, Carella, I think I said that.
Uh what was it? Yeah? Itania? I think I got them
right. That was what came out today in Deadline is that supposedly Q four,
after Superman is done filming, they're gonna go on Supergirl and get that
moving. So I'm gonna say Supergirl is looking like a twenty twenty six if
everything goes a quarter to plan, right, So I'm of two minds of
this. We talked about this a little bit discord, and I've been talking
about this four years. Right, which way do I want to go?
I guess I can kind of just roll this into one one. I'm happy
just productions going on. That's great. That's like, you know, because
a lot of people have done they're like, well, James, just stop
talking. I want to see. And yes, there's part of me that
agrees. I don't need him to answer the same Batman question. I don't
need, you know. I try to avoid it, but I feel like
either Clay or Chris or je Chat is always posting screenshots of him on threads,
and I'm all, he's like, oh, most time, whatever he
says, I don't give a fuck, Like it's just like it is a
bit like I almost got over work, and that's a good thing saying.
Off social media, it happens less than but because that or comes up a
vodka stream where it's like it's just like there's nothing that important that he's saying
here, right, But this stuff, this report, which as of this
time, is this recording. He's not shot down. So if you're listening
this in the morning and James Gunn said absolutely not true, then this is
all no and this is after the fact. But I was recording at the
time, right, But so that stuff I don't care about. I think
that did add to a little bit of stop talking. Just show us.
If Supergirl and Superman are in productions within six months of each other, pretty
much, that's good. That's a good sign. We got Creature Commandos.
We'll see about other stuff. But it's been a lot of Hey, things
have been announced and there's been moving on stuff, right, but things have
been announced, but really the only thing in production right now is Creature Superman
and Peacemaker two or about like that. We've heard like, oh, well
the end of the year, it's gonna shoot. It was a lot of
gun projects, right, even Millie getting casting. Most of us figured,
well, that's because they're gonna shoot something for Superman. Right. So that's
the thing where it's like, okay, getting a director with some experience that
this does it seems more not a pipe tream, but it seems like it's
actually happening, right, And it's also the thing where we go, Hey,
Warner Brothers could be bought, This DCU thing could be or DCU think
could just be thrown out just be you know, a pipe dream. Anytime
we hear more about directors, actors, writers, productions starting up, Q
four dates, stuff like that, that's where we go, Okay, it's
becoming more and more believable this might actually happening, and it gets harder to
take away. Right. I'm not saying Superman Legacy, which I'll probably call
Superman legacy for a while, or Supergirl. I'm sure they could get like
a tax right off if Warner Brothers are going to be bought, But it's
kind of that thing of hopefully it just gets made come out and they're both
good. I don't be rushed, but Warner Bros. Is in a very
sticky spot, and as we've lost a Backrol movie, you just never fucking
know, right, So I think that is a good thing where I get
more excited about the DCU hearing a director. Of course most people do,
right, But like Gun, answering questions over and over doesn't do much for
me. Even him posting stuff that's great, he's posted off him fun.
I don't care because I don't follow him. I'm not on threads and you
know I don't have He's not on Twitter, so I don't see anything there
or anything. But like that, like casting stuff, that's the stuff that's
actually to me exciting. This stuff is like, okay, when you get
a director that does have some good merit, that's exciting. Where for me,
this guy not like knocking out of the part other than I take which
you did, knock it out of the park. All stuff is like decent,
right, But it's like I kind of got a feel, and like
I said, I feel like it's Joe Johnson, maybe lesser than where Joe
Johnson. I know what I'm gonna get, and I guarantee it's probably at
least gonna be good, which is a good sign. And it's somebody that's
not like a as much as I'm for, especially someone that's directing movies.
Now, newcomers getting a shot, we know, sometimes that's them getting bullied
around, right, And I prefer the Ryan Coogler method, Fruitfeld, Station
Creed than a Marvel movie because then it's like, Okay, not only have
they got some hood SPA and some experience under their belt, we kind of
see a style establishing with them, right when it's like this guy's directed three
music videos and here you go, you go well okay, and even the
TV shows, I know, people go, you gotta get experience somewhere.
Yeah, But I still personally, as a fan, would prefer to see
just even one one movie first, right, this guy, we got a
whole platter to pick from. Go, okay, this is what you know.
I'd say all these movies are at least good passable, even the movies
I've not seen, like a dumb Money or Fright Night. People most of
them give it like a thumbs up. I don't have anybody on the man
Fright Night. The remake was just awful. I've actually heard good things about
it, so that gets me more excited now where the controversial thing is happening.
And that's where I also was surprised that it is a male director.
I thought for sure, in this day and age, that it would be
a woman director because I think there's a pro and call to this, and
people will probably dig me on stuff i've said before because I say, oh,
I'm all for it, because X, Y and Z. When people
get mad, when they're like and it's tough. Right, I'm a white
straight man. I can't talk about the stuff because people brought well, you
don't want token ism or you don't want to be just simply a higher for
the diversity. I get that because I've always said when people we've talked about
this a few times, right when it is Hey, they're looking for an
act Let's say it's a white character, right, and they're looking for an
actor, and they say, we want a non white actor, you know,
non concasian acting people. Oh, they're not looking for the best job.
There's awful for me. It's like we live in a Hollywood society for
many decades that there could be ten people in the room, right, and
let's say they're all white guys, and there's one black and he gives the
best audition, he's the best for the role, but because he was black,
he did not get said role. Right. So that's why I was
always fine with kind of okay, let's, of course, in any medium,
should be the best person for the job, but there's many times in
the past it was not. So I was always fine with kind of bouncing
that pass. I'm going, okay, if you want to specifically want to
have people of color to show some diversity and have some different you know,
voices and feelings and culture in here, I'm always fine with that. Like,
it's not to me a big deal of they because and again that's the
difference right where I was gonna say Spider Man, but look, they may
have Miles Morales and that's been so important that community. But I'm never gonna
get bad, and that is the ideal way, right, But I'm not
gonna get mad if they say, hey, the next days, mom,
we won't be black. Oh that's ol. Ray should be the best man
for a job. Well, dear fucking you're being seconds white peeping now.
I don't give a shit, man, we got how many years of bond?
You know, Like it's not again, these are fake things for entertainment.
It's not gonna ruin my day that much, you know, or at
all? Really, but really it's like I'm past point where that doesn't get
me fired up in that sort of way. Like there's anything you'd be annoyed,
like a Ralph Boner, right, I could be annoyed air time ringing
up. This is fucking stupid, yeh yeah. But by then day,
once I get off the podcast or we're not shouldn't shooting the shit in the
discord, I move on my life and I live and then we talk about
other things. Right. So for me, if you ever get that upset
again, just turn off this podcast, close your computer, turn off your
phone, just go get some life, Just go go experience, go do
something go for a jog, make some food, make a nice pizza,
pizza really good. Right. So I will say though in this culture where
we are, where it has been the opposite of the reverse, right,
some people out this arave we've gone too far the other way. I don't
necessarily agree on all aspects. I think there's somewhere it does go too far
where it feels very preach right and in a way where even people that community
will go, hey, this is exactly what we want it or this feels
like a little ick either way or doing it right. So for me,
it's tough where I thought it would be a woman director, and I've seen
a lot of that where I really man or woman or non binary. I
can't say that for sure, but I've seen enough fuel on my timeline and
around say hey, this should have been a woman director, right for X,
Y and Z. I can agree with that to an extent, and
I'm never gonna push back about that. Soy, yeah, sure I could
see that moment there. The opposite pitch as well, you know it,
Tanya and Corelli works really well, all the females yet DA that works.
That's great with me. What I'm hoping for is the perfect role with Peele
Pitch, and not in the way that people all the time will be should
be the best person for the job. Most of those people that say that
are saying when they hint of racism, they're saying it with a hint of
being prejudiced, a hint of well, it's not a white person. But
I can say this and almost on racist because like, of course the best
person should be on Yeah, of course, But I'm still fine out as
a director, this is a female project. We want a director voice that
is a female to connect the dots, right to I can tell a story
about a female, but I'm never gonna know a female's feelings, thoughts,
body, anatomy more than an actual female, right. I guess maybe a
doctor per se, But it's a doctor gonna direct Supergirl. I don't fucking
think so, right, So let's use our nongins here. So I'm fine
if it's we want the female to have voice. Now, I am completely
fine with a male doing this. What I'm gonna double down is what I've
said many times. Then I want and maybe this is the best example because
it has a director. But let's say Anymoschetti drops out right, I want
to be a situation where it is a female can make a Batman movie.
Because at the same time, I understand if they say we want this to
have a female voice, But I'm not saying no man in the world can't
tell a female story. Now in the I'm writing a movie right now.
Our fault for our third one it has a female character as the lead.
My hope is right now. If not, it's gonna come down maybe the
downline as far as another movie, it's just the time you've made sure this
works with the actress. But and I'm gonna partner with her because we say,
hey, you know read this. You know they'll probably get a co
writing great because I want to say, hey, you know, how does
this feel for you? Get to da da. But we've seen many great
directors, male directors make female stories. We've seen great One of my fair
movies all time is American Cycle that is directed by a female, And that's
almost perfect because that's like, hey about men being shitty. This is almost
great that we have a female doing this, right. Kate Aaron, who
did Loki, She's a female. She killed She fucking killed Loki Season one,
which I thought was been in season Two. I think that there is
certain projects where hey, this might be better for a man, a female,
or even like an ODDS binary. Right, there might be Hey,
this specific experience is very tied to a gay character, a trans chector.
We feel someone from the community should be the voice to shepherd this. It's
different strokes for different folks or different projects. Right, I shouldn't say folks.
That doesn't rhyme anymore. But not every project is one to one.
So that's what I hope is Okay, If because I don't want to be
we get to the DCU, let's say we get all the projects in ounce
for gods and monsters and all of them be directed by dudes, and I
go, okay, maybe that should have been super Girl. And I've never
read Woman Tomorrow, so maybe the people that have, if they feel strongly,
hey, this should be a woman's one, I will lean to them.
I'll have to read the story first, and I could understand that,
right. So, but for me that I do want the actual, real
version of the best person for the job, because I'm sure there are hundreds
of women out there that could write and or direct a killer Batman movie.
And the good thing is the way I talk about Hey American Cycle, right,
I think if a man directs that movie, sure there's some things,
but it might be very different, the same way as a man directing Batman
could be different than a woman dreking Batman because they might have a different view
or experience and they might not who knows. But that's where it's like,
let's spread the wealth a little bit. We talk about this in discord where
Okay, who oh were we trying to figure out? I got to punish
your warzone, Lexie Alexander did that, But we're trying to figure out non
TV if there's any other female to superhero directors, and I don't think there
has if so you can't for male superhero sorry you can count them on one
hand. That should definitely change whatever whatever may be, Swamp Thing, Batman,
Booster Gold, whatever it may be. And I want to see more
of the film because TV not saying that's not valid, but we've just had
less of it in film. That's hope this means, and I hope in
the next six months two years something comes out. We're gonna announces a male
hero that is being directed by a Kate Heron an Emerald Kennel, you know,
not a Chloe shoo a, a fucking Zeldo Williams. You know like
that. That's my hope. So this is where I have to circle back
in the future. So on that hope that that's going to happen. I
can say this is a good choice. Is it? Like a knockout?
Gets me super excited? You know, it's a solid this will work,
could be great. It's not a home run taking the sex out of it.
For me, it's not a home run. I think there's other people
you could get male wise, even that I'd be more excited, Like I'm
not. This doesn't it gets me excited. It's the fact if it's moving
and they're happy that was in the article, that they really like the pitch
he had or the angle he had, that's great. Maybe that is the
case where it gets to a situation where and I will I guess I'll take
that back. There's more directors I would have got excited for, but at
least for other directors made this caliber or something like I Tanya, I really
really really enjoyed. So that's where I go, Okay, that does give
me hope where actually he could make a killer, super Bowl movie, a
movie that I go could be like a top you know, Twain to fifty
combook movie, which is crazy to say, but there's been so many of
them, Top twenty to fifty. That's like a Harald place to be in,
right, Like that's a good spot. So like that we're hearing this
news. Gun hasn't debunked it yet. I'm fine with it being a male
director. If a female is gonna tell me, I really would have preferred,
especially with the story, to be a female director. I can't say
you're wrong because I'm not a female and I have not read Supergirl Woman of
Tomorrow. And even if you feel either way just in generally want of that,
that's fine too. There's nothing wrong with like feeling like the first project,
the DCU that is a super like a female led project. I would
have preferred a female director that I'm not well you know, you know O
male can do it, you know, Tory. No, it's like this
again fictional stuff. So I understand kind of all sides except for the asshole
sides. But I understand why. Uh there's you know, the go ahead
and the pushback. But let's see the well spread, let's see, like
I said, next calendar here, let's let's recircle back this. I hope
I'm wrong. I don't know if I ever remember this, s pubs.
If you're listening marks on a calendar that that sounds lazy. I could just
put on my own calendar. Maybe I will. I will my geek Frist
calendar April third, twenty twenty five. If we circle back and there's been
no female for a film, I'll say or non binary person announced to direct
a male character, then I'll say, uh, yeah, that was a
mistake because it's not perfect, right, so we'll see. I'm happy it's
going, uh because I like the creditials. Enough, let's see. Speaking
of films, you know swaps between you know, sexist to another person.
You have the Wachowski's not coming back from Matrix five, which is crazy because
one of them came back for last time. We're getting Drew Goddard directing Matrix
five. I'm I'm sure this was not anything I was expecting because scoopers were
hinting today that something was coming out with Drew, so I was like,
okay, And it was about the SPIDERMN thing because he was like the first
and I wonder now because what we got justin Lynn there was a list,
right. I wonder because in like Snyer's report, he said like, oh,
it was like three to four or something, right, or I think
somebody did. Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, he was on a list,
he came up. Doesn't sound like he is happening anymore. Drew Goddard,
He's directed two things. He's directed Cap in the Woods, and he
is, Oh my gosh, I'm really blank on either one. Cat in
the Woods great? Oh attempts were isn't it? Oh my god? What
am I blanking on? Here? Is it? Bad times? Bad times?
Saying on dead Air, dead Air, bad times? The it was
bad times. I fucking love bad times. Rol I fucking love Cavi in
the Woods. I love a lot of stuff he's written. I just watched
The Martin at the Martin, The Martin, the Martin, Laurence Storry No,
the Martian. He started Daredevil season one, directed a few of those
episodes. He's great. I thought he was a fantastic choice for Spider Man.
He's definitely someone I was pulling for. So that's a disappointment. But
I've mentioned before on here on Vogas Stream because Drew Guard comes a few times.
It's just like a running joke now that Drew Godard is never gonna direct
a super thing, right, because he's rumored for spider Man four, And
let's go back a month, a couple weeks even he's rumored for Spiremn four
and he's in the writer's room, the brain trust for the DCU, right,
and he's not directing a DC or a Spider Man movie. It's very
interesting. It's very funny that he almost directed Sister six. He started Daredevil
but had to leave that, and I think there's another project in there.
I'm not sure if it was four, but there was another one in there
where he was attached to for well and even though it was just rumored,
it went a different way. Maybe it wasn't even a DC one. But
he's been attached to three or four different combook properties. It just doesn't happen.
And that could be by his choice, right, smart guy. If
he goes Hey, even that Senator sixth thing he didn't hapen could have been
smart. Right. So he's producing, writing, directing in the Machowski's are
executive producing. I think they'll have a couple of notes here and there.
But ah, this is interesting because so the pitch is nice where you know,
he says, been a fan all my life. But that's tough,
right, It's like everyone has been a fan of the day. I questioned
you, as a film fan, if you don't have to even love the
Matrix, but at least appreciate for what it is. If someone does not
like the Matrix, like overall's a liking the movie and doesn't you know,
not liking it for okay, a favorite versus quality. If they don't enjoy
the movie and also don't understand it's merits, I question you. I'll be
film snobby. I question your judgment on films if you can't give the Matrix
on credos for or kudos for either the quality or just enjoying it. Right,
So everybody's gonna say, oh I love the Matrix, Right, But
the hope is he said, oh I inspired I me. The hope is
it is one of these Hey, this is something that grew up had an
idea it would be like for me. Eh, I don't I don't want
to throw that out there because it's always bad. You just throw out that
stuff. I've learned that Hollywood, Right. But there's definitely some things where
I'll make all my own ip but there's some things where it's like if you
got thrown this and like, hey, what would you do with it?
It's like, man, I've been thinking about since I was seven years old
what I would do with this? And that's the hope with Drew got it
with this right now. It was written as and this is just the first
report, so who knows could change early on, could never happen even but
it was reported as an extension of the franchise. So that's the thing where
we don't know what does that mean. Does it just simply mean another Matrix
movie extends a franchise by another one being in existence? Does it mean it's
something in that world, whether it's ah god, a prequel which I don't
want, but we could easily easily go down that righte that route, right
they love that shit. And now, don't get me wrong, we got
we're doing the Planet's retrospective right now. It can't happen. There was a
time where it's like you know that joking scream too, where it's like name
a good sequel and they try, you know, they get there eventually.
Nowadays it's like, oh, you can name so many sequels that are better
than originals. For a while, I think when this podcast started, I
was the guy that said Amy five great prequels, and it's like it was
hard to name one that to me was on par or as great as the
originals. Right, even the plan Apes. I don't think any of them
are on par with the original original, but they're pretty damn good. So
I give that the pass yep that is a great story, so not saying
it can't be done. I think the beginning of the Matrix and everything is
just kind of almost one of those almost like explaining the origins of a horror
movie monster. Do you want to know how everything started? Because it might
be a little disappointing, right, I think there's just certain things where it's
like it's Bear left the imagination and the stories told in those movies. But
that could be it or is it simply a fifth one? Is it a
continuation as far as other characters in that world that know Neo, is it
Neo and a Trinity because they did fly away saying they're gonna stop all the
Matrix or whatever shut it down right at the end of a resurrection where they
fly together and they're gonna, you know, do their best to free the
world. Is it that I don't know. I'm kind of game for anything
other than the prequel. I'll be honest. I like Drew Goddard. I
trust him. So it's at least somebody that if they announced it is gonna
be a precrod go uh Like, it's like like a bruise you pull but
eventually had a heel and maybe I don't know if you're like a stronger after
your bruise. And that's something I'm making up. But he is a name
that I okay, I'll give it a shot. I'll wait to the movie,
but you gotta sell me if it was one of them was making a
Matrix sphakicle and it's like what we talked about before, where it's and guy
that's directed three music videos but people really like him. Is here? I
go, well, not really, like, this is not the vision I'm
expecting here, right for a prequel? Other stuff that may be sure,
and you could you could keep it a smaller budget. People might go,
wow, the Matrix. You can if you make it a lot a lot
of it take place in the matrix and do a little bit more of a
heady version and you take out some of the action, but Matrix you still
need that, right, So yeah, I'm kind of down for whatever.
Of of course, not preferring a prequel, but I'm fine if it's neo,
fine, if it's characters around the world. Find if it's a completely
new story, and I find if it's a reboot, even then I'm kind
of fine because like again, the class like that title Siner right there,
like Matrix reboot very easy to do, you know. Like so I'm I'm
open. I like the Matrix overall. I like it's a two for two,
right because before it's like I like the concept of the Matrix. You
got one great movie and then you got two and three, which take a
lot of swings, lots of big ideas, but maybe not necessarily the most
fine two machines resurrections I liked. I just watched it not too long ago
again sometime last year. I still enjoyed it. It does not reach the
heights of Matrix one, no, but it does some really cool things and
there is aspects to that movie where I, oh, wow, they Warba's
let to make this Like there's a lot of poking fun at Warnabas very directly,
not almost like a dead poole. Ah, I'm a little joke at
of sin. It'ce like no, like they make warbas seem fucking like idiots
in that movie. Now again Matrix Flipsy can go, oh, that's just
like a fake version. We wouldn't be like that, right, but it
has that. I'm very curious because goodt Gonnard is. I don't know if
I want to say master that seems a bit much. But even when he's
not directing many great movies, he's written the script of Right. You look
at his like, let's go down quickly. What is I'll pull it up
here. But even then, for me, it's like I did not think
this was gonna happen, because I'll have to pick it up. I thought
after Matrix four it was done. Let's get his credits here. This is
the time I actually want the other credits, imd are you gonna give me?
Oh? It's producing again? Who would have thunk? Okay, writer,
let's see so yeah, he wrote Dreed Well, he wrote Bad Times
l Royal, he wrote one episode of Defendit. He's wrote the Martian World
war Z. Cavin Woods some Buffy Vampire Sayer Episodes, Lost Episodes, Cloverfield
Angel, Buffy Vampire Alias, which I did like in today. So on
the World war Z, I've seen pretty much everything this guy has done,
and I love that the Sinister Six, it's still in development. He has
that on his credit. I think someone can remove that, but you never
know. So yeah, again, I'm not gonna say a master because I
like and really enjoy a lot of the stuff, but none of it is
like score Sazi, you know, Aaron Sorkin level. Those to me are
like some of the masters and stuff, right, Tarantino, master, Screamer,
even scor says, I'd put more in the director category. Right,
So I wouldn't say master, but really really good and I respect his work.
But that's the other thing. Let me brow up major resurrections. Now,
we talked about this in their discord where it was a COVID movie.
But you have like, look at this, and I'm not gonna do a
box office conversation. Uh, but Godzilla, I guess I am, But
I mean, like a box office segment Godzill x Kong whatever, some sort
of empire that movie that came out. Let me take a look here.
Let's get this going here, just to give you an example of why I'm
curious. So the numbers, right, Let's see if we can get the
day to day. So did the opening week Oh my god, opening weekend
for the Matrix was ten million? Holy sheet, I did not remember that.
I thought I was a little more than that. Is that true?
Oh boy? So let's even good more info. But here's the thing,
and I'll talk about what is it here? I will talk about god'sil Versus
calling for a second here that movie it wasn't COVID times, but that made
thirty seven million? Right for the twenty twenty was it? I'll just say
the year COVID came out made thirty seven million on its opening weekend. That
was during COVID time at some of its heights. That was COVID time,
or that was that time where it was also on Ahbo Max. Lots of
things going on, right, Okay, So yeah, opening weekend, Jesus
wheeze. I was trying to find like a if there was like a day
by day one too, But either way, ten million. But the point
is, walk with me here. Thirty seven for godzil Versus Kong, then
Godzilla X Kong comes out Day one, thirty one million. The opening weekend
was projected as forty to fifty end up making what like a high seventy low
eighty. Almost doubled maybe did double its projections right to me, the main
and that was Godzil people clearly like Godzilla and Cang fighting teaming up. Whatever.
If you look at those movies before twenty fourteen, Skull Island, King
of Monsters is all going in the opposite direction negative reaction. Right, it
was going down those movies. I think we're losing hype and the box office
was going down. And that was a rumor going around that they had already.
It was like a bvs. Just League situation where they were working on
Godzilla versus Call already before King Monsters. And there was almost some kind of
regret because I thought, oh, this is not getting the numbers we want.
I don't know if we should have done this. And I told Taylor
manytimes cast enjoy this, this is probably it, and Taste, I'm just
happy we're getting what we're getting. That movie comes out pretty much saves the
franchise because it's a hit in COVID numbers. Right, it's a hit for
COVID, so they go, we'll make another one. See what it makes
in the you know, regular times when people are healthy and stuff right and
the virus is lessened. And clearly they're seeing the fruits of their labor,
because I think we'll end up making more than god zilvers Gong and it costs
less. So bravo to them. I didn't watch it. I'll watch it
at home. I have no interest after god z Ola MIAs want to go
spend at the theater a couple hours and spend money. Absolutely not. But
good on them. They're doing the right thing, lower budget, higher money.
So for me, that's where Mikey brought a great point. If it
was at COVID mood, it was, but you have the combo of that
same month, not saying it needed to be this, but that same month
Spider Man, you know, comes out, goes on almost make two billion
dollars. So that shows right there you're gonna have big hit movies. And
even the matrix was the size of Godzilvers's Gong, which I would have thought
that if you would have asked me. I don't think we were doing the
draft back then, right, No, we weren't during COVID. I think
we did after. But if you were asked me, hey, what's gonna
do better? Matrix or Godsovers is gong with the downward trajectory of the Monster
franchise, with Matrix being gone for so long, being such a classic movie,
and with Keanu Reeves, who's never been hotter since John Wick or because
of John Wick. To me, it's a slam dunk Matrix Resurrections has in
the fucking bag. And that's why that's where a time where sometimes studios are
right or whatnot, where they go, hey, God's Olvers is gone and
the regular times that could make some money, and it is. And to
me, it's like, if it can make money in COVID times with this
reduced audience, then it can make money in the good times, and that
is happening now. Maybe they just view could be a lower budget, but
maybe they view Matrix the same way as a victim of circumstance with Spider Man
and COVID. But still I did not. I thought Matrix was done good
by like a nice send off to me, better than two and three.
I was happy with it, happy the direction they went. I like the
majority of the film. Like I said, it's nowhere a classic, but
I enjoyed it. I did what I told Taylor to do of you know,
enjoy Matrix Resurrections, because that's what you did for a while. I
know that came out, what twenty twenty one, we are three years later
and they've announced a new one. Now, this will still still be several
years, but now it's gonna be very curious to what they do because it's
not like God's Eelversus Calling, where at least if it bombed like this one,
you'd kind of go Okay, it made money in COVID. We thought
it would make money here, it didn't. We're wrong. Let's put this
on ice. They're going with the KA. It didn't make money COVID,
but we still believe in this franchise. Let's see now. To me,
I will say this, and I could be wrong. If this movie comes
out and also eats it, then it's really over. Because they took the
dice roll twice. I imagine they lost money on Matrix Resurrections, because I
guess every movie lost money on COVID, right, But like the World Wide
was one fifty seven, and that was like even let's pretend Matrix resurrections.
Let's pretend let's pretend there's no marketing budget, no delay budget because of COVID,
just production budget listed on Wikipedia's one ninety made one fifty nine, one
fifty seven. I got conflicting numbers here, but still even then, it's
a forty million dollar loss and one fifty nine for the Matrix. That's like,
I don't know again when a fucking like, I know this was weird,
but Scream five, like, I know you might think, why do
you think of that? But still like or Scream six here, let's see
what Scream six made, made one sixty nine. That what came out in
twenty twenty three, So I'm guessing yeah, Scream five was twenty twenty two,
right, so it was more after COVID. But still like, again
you think that's what I guess they're gonna be saying, right, is it
was the COVID numbers, that's what happened. But even here's a better example
to me. Twenty two January, so a month after the Matrix, a
movie that's twenty four million dollars made one hundred and thirty eight million. Matrix
resurrections only made twenty more million than Scream. That doesn't make sense to me.
So it is. It is definitely something where I would for sure,
and it's because it's true. Godard, I go. Okay, I trust
it. I'm excited. I want films we made. I like the franchise,
so let's see. It's always down for new take. It doesn't hurt
the original. Yes, you could say, oh, hollywoods obsessed with IP.
Do we need this? No, but we don't need any movie.
I'm not saying there's so much mine the table I need it. No,
I'm happy with Matrix, but I'm good to see. Okay, where else
can we go? But if I was in the board or in the decision
make process, I go. Unless, like I said, the pitch is
a very reduced budget smart way to do it, I would question, oh,
is this the right move? I don't know. I feel like Matrix
came out and showed maybe the time, Maybe nineteen ninety nine was the time,
and it's better left lying there, right, But we'll see. I'm
excited to see what happens again. We don't need it. I didn't need
another one. People that that was the other thing I saw. I'll say
like, oh my god, Warner Brothers and everybody knew. I pe like
that, like it's gonna keep happening. That's how it's gonna keep happening till
you go. And you can say, oh, I support, that's good,
get your friends to everything. It's gonna keep happening for the rest of
your life. They will go with the sure bet. I had to explain
to my sister so much, Oh why now do I just Sidney Swingy Chelly
and all these new da da da, Because she's just like a movie general
audience person pretty much. But I had to break it down of like,
well, you have a guy who was in Wonka and Dune and they do
really well, so the studios will go, hey, let's make a movie
with that guy. And because they do things very well, you know IP
is gonna be around forever. And that's the thing. Vote with your wallet.
I'm somebody that sees, as long as I got time, the things
that I'm interested in, Like this tonight I'm seeing or tomorrow seeing Monkey Man.
Right, I will see the the biggest IP fucking I'll go see Matrix
five, the fifth one that yeah, sure we don't need. But I'll
also go see monkey Man, make sure you do those same things. And
you know what, if you're somebody and I'm not on that side, here's
the thing what I did. God Zilvers is gone. I don't I don't
need this anymore. I stop seeing it. If you look at Matrix five
and you feel that passionate that, I'm so sick and tire fucking IP.
Matrix does not need another sequel. Resurrections was a perfect send off. I
don't feel comfortable with seeing those with the Chelseky's not being fully involved. Then
vote with your wallet, because then if Matrix fies, bombs and I'm not
saying I want that for the cast and crew, but I'm saying that's the
only way you can really send a mester with the studios. So then if
a bomb, so theyll go, Okay, we don't need to do more
Matrix. This IP is not a thing. Let's leave it where it was
in nineteen ninety nine. Right. So I'm excited by the writer. I'm
curious what it's gonna be. I definitely want to hear more of the pitch
the casting. So I am excited just based on the writer. But there's
more like the prequel like some casting where I with Keanu and like, if
you were to ask me into my head, which way would I rather go.
I think I'd rather have a new cast. And I think that it
is the time because it's not like if Matrix Resurrections did Bonco Busters. I
don't even know what Bonco's Busters mean, but I'm saying it with Reeves,
you go, well, no, Da, it's the same thing as like
for me, if I've of course I want it and this will be my
last point. And this is why I'm saying like, I prefer not prefer
if they say comes back great, I like them as Neil, Let's see
what happens, bring it on. But the reason I guess i'd go the
other route is you have a I did like where Neo's story ended, so
you don't have to bring him back. I think it'd be fun to do
a new cast. The chosen one is still thing. Maybe they talk about
him, talk about trending, maybe they're around, maybe they've passed on.
Whatever it may be right, but I feel like two things, as far
as the story to me was completed well and the box office isn't there.
I get the sentiment. I get the sentiment. I get why people want
it. I get why people tweet out all the time Man Warros fucking missed
the boat when they didn't do Batman Beyond, And maybe they're is a multiverse,
a spaghetti in the multiverse where Keaton comes back for Batman Beyond and not
the Flash and it's a mega hit, great movie, everyone loves it.
This was a maybe maybe there's like top Gun, right, But now with
what we have the information, you can't tell me and look at me in
the eye and say they're leaving money on the table out for the Flash.
Because again, there could be a multiverse where Gun comes up tomorrow and says,
you know what I want to do Batman Beyond, Michael Keaton comes out,
it's a massive hit. Possibly, But if you're going off data points,
and that's what these companies do, if you're looking at win loss record,
what's working. Hey, Michael Keaton came back once. How did that
movie do for us? What did he to do? Not great? Not
great? Oh but he was trading on Twitter because on Oscars he played Batman
for a second. Yeah, yeah, but the movie it didn't pull out,
it didn't have that missaution. We're gonna see for sure in a couple
of weeks or a couple months now, Right, the comparison was and I
think it's gonna do well. But Toe maguire and Andre Garfield. Okay,
key, now he thought the same thing was gonna do that. It didn't
for whatever reason was the flash the DCU, whether it is. People don't
care about Keen the same way they did Spider Man. Let's see about Wolverine,
right, I think people do because I think Wolverine's kind of like McGuire
and Garfield. McGuire and Garfield was smart because it hit on two different generations
decades. Right, Hugh Jackman hits onto those decades alone by himself because he
was in those decades. There was no passover. It was him. So
that's the thing where it is the perfect time to reboot. And I can't
give you a reason why not to perfect story ending not perfect. I enjoyed
the ending for you, and it's not a box office draw to get reezed
back do the new cast. I think that's the best route new direction.
Again, I don't want a prequel. Maybe you could pitch me on it,
and as Drew Goddard, so I would at least be interested in,
and I would give him a little less you know, flack. I would
never give someone flack. I'm not tweeting this pel but I just mean like,
i'd give him more trust. Right, So we'll see. Not an
announcement I was expecting today, really ever, not ever, but not I
could comfortably say at least within five years, ten years, because we're three
years, it's gonna be four years soon. If you're asked me, hey,
we'll we get a Matrix movie in the next ten years. No,
because I thought that's the best time is wait a little longer, wait till
it's kind of gone, if you were gonna do it, and then bring
it back to like a really new thing. But the resurrections are still around.
But again, who knows that was Radar where God Silvers's cong was it?
Maybe COVID really did hurt Ahru Max And maybe this go around it'll be
man, we bet on ourselves that it worked out, So we'll see.
U let me know. As always the comments discord, what do you thought
about any of this? Yeah, thank you very much for listening. Again,
so I couldn't shout out a put out a post for questions or whatnot.
But next week we'll be too trest toold you. No no, no
no. Two episodes of the Gimmick trustold you. I think you know.
Maybe I'll put up so out here or there. We'll see. But thank
you very much everyone that listens. I very much appreciate, especially because now
it is like a reduced episode count stuff. But I appreciate you is hearing
my ramblings for a little bit, and when you hear for next I'll I'll
be boring.