1 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,399 Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingwley and 2 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,800 David Harsani. Just a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, 3 00:00:21,839 --> 00:00:26,239 please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. We love hearing from 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,839 you, and we love hearing from you. Molly. How's it going. 5 00:00:29,079 --> 00:00:32,119 It's been great, Great to be here with you. David, Yes, 6 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,679 it's great to be with you. I guess the big story this week was 7 00:00:37,399 --> 00:00:44,000 Donald Trump releasing a statement on the sort of clarifying I guess, maybe not 8 00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:48,679 clarifying, but laying out what he believed, you know, his abortion policy 9 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:54,079 or his views on abortion, you know, in relation to Dobbs and law, 10 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,359 and basically it's that the states should make their own decisions. He did 11 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:00,759 not endorse, though, I don't believe. He said he would never support 12 00:01:00,759 --> 00:01:07,319 a national band, but he would endorse a national ban on abortion. I'm 13 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:11,040 even falling for it, a national limitation on abortion. There are no bans 14 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:15,120 on abortion. Really, what do you make of it? Let's talk about 15 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:19,239 it. Yeah, So, I think, first of all, first off, 16 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:25,560 the context is important. So Democrats are running a campaign basically about two 17 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,680 things, one imprisoning and bankrupting their political opponents. That's kind of that's not 18 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,879 what they're campaigning on, but that's their campaign strategy. And then the issue 19 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:40,000 that they're running on is abortion. And they are not running on their record 20 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,120 being in control of the country, or their policies or what their vision is. 21 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:53,359 It's all just imprisoning and bankrupting political opponents through Law Fair and abortion and 22 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:57,159 the corporate media are all on board with this. They're generally pretty supportive of 23 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,200 the Law Fair despite its you know how bad it is for the country, 24 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,359 for the Republic, and of course they have a long history of being rapidly 25 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,919 pro abortion, and so in this and then also in this context, we've 26 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:16,000 had a few years since the Dobbs ruling which overturned Roe v. Wade, 27 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:23,080 thereby enabling states to pass their own abortion laws. You've had a lot of 28 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:29,879 funding and energy from Democrats and other people who are pro abortion to make those 29 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,400 laws as pro abortion as possible. And so Donald Trump comes out with a 30 00:02:34,439 --> 00:02:37,639 statement and he says that he's very proud of what he did with the Supreme 31 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,240 Court, and what you know that that court was what enabled Roe v. 32 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,439 Wade, which is widely considered one of the worst well by lawyers. It's 33 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:51,520 widely considered one of the worst Supreme Court decisions in history. Of course, 34 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,319 very much supported by people who are pro abortion, and he says, you 35 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,080 know, it should be handled by the States. And then also he supports 36 00:02:59,319 --> 00:03:06,639 iv in be true fertilization, which is a pretty fraught topic that has also 37 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:12,439 become a bit of a political wedge issue used by Democrats because of a case 38 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:19,840 down in Alabama that was about whether parents of such embryos have any rights when 39 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,000 it comes to destruction of such embryos. Sorry, that was a big sum 40 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:29,360 up, but there were no no that was That was good. I'm usually 41 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,960 a reductionist and people don't understand what I'm talking about half the time. That's 42 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,319 all right, that's correct. There's there are a lot of facets to this, 43 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:43,360 I think. So one thing I wanted to mention was that immediately, 44 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:50,199 just all over the media, story after story focused on how Donald Trump keeps 45 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,319 changing his position on abortion. So there was a slew of them. I 46 00:03:54,599 --> 00:03:59,319 had them in front of me before. But like a timeline of Trump's many 47 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,360 many position on abortion. NBC News, Trump's confusing shifting abortion abortion stance, 48 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,919 explain Time magazine thirteen times. Trump's abortion position shifted over the past twenty five 49 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,719 years. Okay, I think that Donald Trump has shifted his position. I 50 00:04:15,039 --> 00:04:18,879 think it's fair to say that he's not a naturally socially conservative person, and 51 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,720 his views have shifted. I don't know what he really believes. I don't 52 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:28,399 really even care. I care what he does. But no one in American 53 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,879 presidential history has ever shifted their position more radically than Joe Biden has shifted his 54 00:04:33,959 --> 00:04:40,000 position on abortion. Yet that goes completely unmentioned. Even into the twenty twenty 55 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,120 election, he was still a supporter of the High Amendment, and podcast bros 56 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,079 got mad on Twitter and mocked him, and in two days he's completely switched 57 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,160 his position, and now he is endorsed by Nairaw and like the most Well, 58 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:55,360 I mean, let's let's go back. I mean, he used to 59 00:04:55,399 --> 00:05:00,920 be a strong supporter of unborn children and their mothers's. He supported this digressional 60 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,720 amendment that would have overturned Roe v. Wade and given the right to make 61 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:11,279 this decision back to the States. Okay, so listen, you can point 62 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,839 out that that Donald Trump has changed his position. I mean, that's like 63 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,759 also not breaking news. Donald Trump was pro abortion and became pro life, 64 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,240 and yet, like you say, I don't know. You know, he 65 00:05:23,319 --> 00:05:29,519 has a story about how that happened that related to friends of his, but 66 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,199 it was not it was not breaking news, you know, even six years 67 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,600 ago to focus on how he changed his position. Also, it's kind of 68 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,720 common for people who aren't thinking deeply about the topic to be pro abortion and 69 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,920 then once they actually think about it, they become pro life. That happens 70 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,759 all the time, So it's not really super newsworthy on that front either. 71 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:54,720 I've written about that extensively for myself. Right, So, the idea that 72 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,839 he's changed his position, because I mean, they don't like make the case 73 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:00,839 he's changed his position. Actually didn't like his statement, and I hope we'd 74 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,560 get a chance to talk about this really quickly. But that's different than saying 75 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,319 he changed his position. There is there are quite a few pro lifers who 76 00:06:09,319 --> 00:06:13,160 actually share his view that it should be handled only at the state level. 77 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,600 I'm not one of them. I think that the nation and the states and 78 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:21,040 localities, like whatever form of governments out there, I'm all for them protecting 79 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,279 unborn children and their mothers from violence in the womb. But there are a 80 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:28,560 lot of people who think it should just be handled at the state level. 81 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,240 That's not like a total contradiction. Also, that doesn't yet, like you 82 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,439 say, his statement didn't say there's nothing that can be done at the federal 83 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,319 level, And when he was operating at the federal level, he was pretty 84 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,040 good on the issue. Right, Well, let's talk about that in a 85 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,040 second. I just want to the reason I'm pointing out the media coverage is 86 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:50,199 because I think that most people don't understand the radicalism of Biden's position, which 87 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,319 is, you know, abortion on demand whenever you want it, funded by 88 00:06:55,319 --> 00:07:01,680 the government with no limitations, and Donald Trump's position, which is pretty moderate. 89 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,560 I mean, I think he supported even the national ban that was brought 90 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,600 forward by Republicans. I think was was it like a twenty week ban or 91 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,560 something. I mean, it wasn't it hewed exactly to what the mainstream of 92 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,040 Americans believe is a legitimate cutoff for abortion. Yeah, Like a few weeks 93 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:26,319 ago, France codified a right to kill your unborn child in the first trimester 94 00:07:26,519 --> 00:07:30,279 into their constitution or something, and everyone was making a big deal about it 95 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:35,560 without noting that it banned abortion or regulated abortion. After fourteen weeks or something 96 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:41,639 like that. So the way corporate media talk about this completely confuses people about 97 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,720 what the moderate position is, Like, I believe all children should be protected. 98 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,600 I admit that I'm way out there on this, Like I understand that 99 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,560 prudentially and pragmatically you might not be able to protect all children at all times. 100 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:58,279 But I want to live in a world that cares about children and their 101 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:03,879 mothers and family formation and all that. But it is a very common majority 102 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:13,240 position to support both some some abortion and also to support some regulation of abortion. 103 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:16,319 That's the marier position, right. So just one last thing I wanted 104 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,120 to point out on the media coverage was here is the headline of the New 105 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:24,800 York Times today on abortion, Trump chooses politics over principles. So I looked 106 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:28,480 up what they said about Joe Biden when he changed his position in a single 107 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,279 day on the High Amendment, and they said that Biden had been grappling for 108 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,440 decades with his views on abortion. So you see, one person is cynical 109 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:41,000 and you know, just doesn't have principles, and Joe Biden was grappling with 110 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,559 these things. That's why he's always changing it to comport with exactly where the 111 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,360 Democratic Party is all the time. But here's another thing. Moderating your position 112 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:56,440 on abortion during the general election is not some kind of crazy radical thing. 113 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,440 Virtually every presidential candidate it always does it. You know, almost every presidential 114 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,120 candidate has changed their views on abortion, from Mitt Romney, you know, 115 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:13,120 to Al Gore to many others. So it's not this radical thing anyway. 116 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,080 I just wanted to point out, like they always make the most normal thing 117 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,679 Trump does seem like it's this crazy, fringe, weird principliss I do think 118 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,519 it also indicates that they understand that there was something savvy about what he was 119 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:33,840 doing. Like you've got a completely corrupt propaganda press that presents like wanton killing 120 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:37,799 of children at any stage, even after birth, to be like a totally 121 00:09:37,799 --> 00:09:43,240 normal thing. And so how do you operate in a propaganda environment like that 122 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,159 and with a Democrat party that supports no protections for unborn children, literally none, 123 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,440 Like it's it's a he'll get you kicked out of the party. Well 124 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:58,960 you do something like like what Trump did thereby showing Democrats as being really radical 125 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,440 on this. Yeah. Wow. I think the subtext of these articles is 126 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,360 this is a moderate position, but he doesn't really believe it. He's going 127 00:10:09,399 --> 00:10:11,200 to give in to the radicals in the party once he's elected. You know 128 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,080 what I'm saying, Because he's so malleable on this, don't you think? 129 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,960 Yeah, I actually know. I think they're just scared. I think they 130 00:10:18,039 --> 00:10:22,120 understand that he kind of called their bluff on this, and that they can 131 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:28,159 imagine. Like think about twenty sixteen the debate with Hillary Clinton where Donald Trump 132 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:33,759 said that Hillary Clinton supports abortion through all nine months of pregnancy and she couldn't 133 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,879 deny it. She literally she like freaked out and couldn't respond. They know 134 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,639 that someone who kind of knows how to talk about it and how to call 135 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,080 their bluff is a threat to them. It's really weird. As you note, 136 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,679 I don't think Donald Trump is some big pro lifer, but it's kind 137 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,840 of weird that he's handled it better not just in terms of policy wins, 138 00:10:52,919 --> 00:11:00,240 but also rhetorical wins than people who present themselves as super pro life. Having 139 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,399 said that, I just want to talk for a minute about the actual substance. 140 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:05,000 I hate when people, you know, only think about the politics of 141 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:11,720 it. So I personally think that pro lifers should lean into protection of children 142 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:16,879 and mothers and lean into being in a society that is not so blood thirsty 143 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:22,360 as an abortion society, and that we should totally be, you know, 144 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:28,480 out and proud about our belief that children, unborn children are worthy of protection 145 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:35,440 and that of our society should protect them. And so a statement like this, 146 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:43,360 while I understand what he's doing, I don't love, you know, 147 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:50,320 I don't love the lack of clarity about the overarching topic. You know, 148 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,000 it's an opportunity to talk about the evil of abortion and what it does to 149 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,360 women and children, and I didn't see that totally there in the statement. 150 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:03,759 And then I also th that's very confused on IBF, which involves a lot 151 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:09,159 of destruction of human life, is a procedure that's also very difficult on women 152 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:15,799 and is a reflection of a series of policy and cultural failures that lead women 153 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:18,919 to forestall having children when their bodies are most capable of it, and then 154 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,399 like rush in their forties to have the children that they that they want. 155 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:28,519 So, you know, I just didn't think it was like it just as 156 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:31,639 a pro lifer, it was not a statement that thrilled me. I understand 157 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:35,759 it politically why it was done, and I don't have like, like I 158 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:39,080 said, I know a lot of pro lifers who think that abortion laws should 159 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,759 be handled only at the state level. But it just was not you know, 160 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:48,399 it's not something that excites pro lifers. I get that. I think 161 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:50,720 I think he was just trying to diffuse the issue more than actually take any 162 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:56,600 kind of hard stance on it. I am a person I believe that I 163 00:12:56,639 --> 00:12:58,960 haven't fully made up my mind, but I do believe this is a state 164 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:05,120 rights issue. Though if no one ever mentions that Democrats have no problem having 165 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,879 national bands that they're trying to pass, So if they are trying to do 166 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:09,679 that, what are Republican's supposed to do? They have to fight back on 167 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,000 a national level as well. So it's very It's a difficult position for someone 168 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,159 who's a constitutionalist and believes that it's a state's issue, you know, when 169 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,960 the other side is not playing by the same rules, as happens often, 170 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,480 I'm going to say something crazy for a pundit right now, But with the 171 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,919 IVF issue, I don't really know exactly yet where what I feel. 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Visit zapmdebt dot com. That's zapmdebt dot 190 00:14:54,240 --> 00:15:01,279 com. Zapmidebt dot com. Should just read more on it. I didn't 191 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:05,279 really understand how it worked, and then probably about when we started the Federalist 192 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:11,559 is when I really started looking into assisted reproductive technologies and it really is something 193 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:16,480 worth thinking through. I feel like our technology has advanced beyond our understanding of 194 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:22,720 the effects on children. Basically, assisted reproductive technology is sort of by definition 195 00:15:22,879 --> 00:15:28,399 done for parents or for adults, without a lot of thought about how it 196 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,399 affects unborn or how it affects the child, not just in terms of how 197 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:41,799 many of the unborn children die or are left to die, but also in 198 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:46,639 terms of the rare success affiliated with assisted reproductive technology. Like one of the 199 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:52,240 first lectures I went to on this dealt with children who had been conceived I 200 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,919 don't know how if that's even the right word, but had been the result 201 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,200 of assisted reproductive technology, and well, you know, there are all sorts 202 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,759 of psychological issues in play that I had never really thought about. From how 203 00:16:04,879 --> 00:16:10,159 when you are not created just as the natural result of a man and a 204 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:12,080 woman having sex, but when your parents like put a lot of money and 205 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,679 effort, or a mother puts a lot of money and effort into our father, 206 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:19,399 you know, into creating you, how that makes you feel more like 207 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,480 a product rather than a like a natural result, And how it means that 208 00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:26,440 you your whole life is supposed to be about making your parents happy. You 209 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,360 know. So there are these like interesting things. I don't think we think 210 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:34,720 about the result from some of these things, or like how I remember like 211 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:40,919 this one girl was saying that because her biological father was a sperm donor who 212 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,600 had donated literally like I don't know if it was hundreds or thousands of his 213 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:51,120 sperm had resulted in many children, and how that made her nervous when she 214 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:55,840 was dating that she was dating a sibling, you know, and not knowing 215 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:02,679 about it just kind of created some against psychological issues that she would have rather 216 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:07,079 not had, which you know, certainly can happen at a very low level, 217 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,119 you like your dad was getting around or something, but not you know, 218 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,839 it's not something that's natural for people to worry about in most circumstances. 219 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,079 Yeah, I mean, obviously there are moral dimensions to this, but there's 220 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:22,160 also legal ones, and I just you know, I worry about the state's 221 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,880 overstepping it's bounds sometimes. You know. It's just it's a complicated issue. 222 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,640 I'm not even going to pretend I have any kind of definitive a position on 223 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,759 it, because I no, I agree with your point that, like the 224 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:34,200 vast majority of people probably are not voting on it, haven't thought about it, 225 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,480 and if they are, they're probably like children are great, which is 226 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:40,480 sort of how Trump' said children are great. Who doesn't like children? I 227 00:17:40,599 --> 00:17:45,680 bem therefore is great. Well, intentionally denying a child their mother or father, 228 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,960 you know, which happens a lot with these assisted reproductive technologies, is 229 00:17:49,799 --> 00:17:55,359 an issue, and so you would like a bold, clear thinking voice. 230 00:17:56,759 --> 00:18:00,440 Not that I expect it from any Republican or anybody. Well, let's talk 231 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,640 about that for a minute. Yeah, I mean, IVF is a difficult, 232 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,400 difficult position for social conservatives because most people don't understand it, and they're 233 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:15,000 probably reflexively for it. Abortion is a more complicated issue, And yet I 234 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:19,680 think that it's much more more morally clear to make the argument, and yet 235 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:25,720 Republicans are awful at doing it, and they I think we've spoken about this 236 00:18:25,759 --> 00:18:27,960 before. I think you agree with me that most of them probably didn't want 237 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,000 row overturned because they like to sort of lean in on it knowing that they 238 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:36,599 never had to do anything about it or take responsibility for a pro life position. 239 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,359 And now they're just so bad at it. Do you see any hope 240 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,880 in that way? I mean, you know, my view is that they're 241 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,200 losing the issue a because they don't fight back and explain that the media is 242 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:52,279 lying about where they are and where the Democrats are, and they still don't 243 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:53,640 do it. Even Trump sort of did it, but he doesn't really lean 244 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,839 into it that much, and normally Republicans don't even want to talk about it. 245 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,200 So how can they win this issue if they're not even willing to fight 246 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,000 on it. I'm talking about Republicans on a national level. So I was 247 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:11,400 even wondering about whether this statement, this very moderate statement from Trump, whether 248 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:17,880 that would make the pro life movement just start to take more responsibility for advancing 249 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:22,599 the issue themselves in a better way. Clearly, Oh my goodness, people 250 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:26,119 are awful at talking about, you eve, an issue of violent destruction of 251 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:32,319 life, and Republicans are scared to talk about it, even with poles showing 252 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,960 broad approval for protection for at least some unborn children. And they are cowards, 253 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,960 they are weak, They are impotent on every issue, but this one's 254 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:48,799 sort of like particularly embarrassing because it involves people who can't or humans who can't 255 00:19:48,839 --> 00:19:52,799 advocate for themselves, and so it's just like even worse than how bad they 256 00:19:52,799 --> 00:19:56,319 are on every other issue. But it is an existential issue for the pro 257 00:19:56,319 --> 00:20:00,400 life movement obviously that they get politicians who who can speak about it well. 258 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:04,279 I do think once you start seeing a few people doing it, well, 259 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,799 you'll see more people just copy and emulate it. I mean, here's the 260 00:20:08,839 --> 00:20:12,759 thing. I do think it was a difficult when when Democrats actually sort of 261 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:18,519 embraced I guess in the nineties safe legal and rare like that was a very 262 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,359 politically speaking, a very smart formulation of their argument saying that this is, 263 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,319 you know, something that we don't love, but that we got to keep 264 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,519 it safe, et cetera, et cetera. But now they're like the ballist 265 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:33,400 position, you know, always whenever you want, doesn't matter, it's good. 266 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:37,599 They celebrate it, and Republicans are still unable to make any kind of 267 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,039 headway or good arguments about it when most people probably are closer to their position. 268 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:47,680 Talking about mainstream Republicans, I mean, Lindsey Graham's bill was I believe 269 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,640 again I could be wrong, but a twenty week limitation, which is completely 270 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,720 in line with most Americans. Yeah, the big problem with it was it 271 00:20:53,759 --> 00:20:57,440 was like it was not good enough, not that it was like two fears. 272 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,680 Yeah, these problems with how Republicans talk about abortion remind me a lot 273 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:07,160 of the problems with how Republicans talk and vote on other issues. Right now 274 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,599 in Congress, there are two issues that are just kind of like somewhat shocking 275 00:21:11,599 --> 00:21:15,519 to see. Republicans have a very small majority in the House in a town 276 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:22,359 run by at best the Democrat Party and at worst the Uniparty, and they 277 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,799 are about to vote for increased funding for Ukraine after telling voters that they would 278 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:33,839 never do that unless they secured the border, and they're just getting completely run 279 00:21:33,839 --> 00:21:37,640 over on that. And then also the deep state would like to extend some 280 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:44,839 FIZA authorities to spy on Americans after doing all the horrible things they did against 281 00:21:44,839 --> 00:21:48,319 Republicans up to and including the President of the United States, and Republicans are 282 00:21:48,319 --> 00:21:52,920 too impotent to stop that. They're really making the case that they do not 283 00:21:53,079 --> 00:22:00,559 deserve to be in power. I understand that they do not have much of 284 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:04,839 a majority and that that's very difficult, but they're not even really trying to 285 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:12,960 fight on behalf of their voters. Yeah, I mean, I have ideological 286 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:21,440 problems with PISA, even beyond the abuses that people you know that that happened 287 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,720 that people predicted would happen. Obviously they happen. The whole the whole Russia 288 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:33,640 collusion thing was basically anchored to abuses of PISA in away, and Republicans don't 289 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,039 seem to care. I mean, they're going to reauthorize it, right, 290 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,400 and they don't even I don't even know other than a few sort of libertarian 291 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,920 types if anyone's actually making any arguments against it. There's like a thing about 292 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:52,079 this where you see Mike Johnson, who's like an incredibly weak person that he'll 293 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,039 go into a skiff and get briefed by the deep state on something and then 294 00:22:56,079 --> 00:23:00,599 he comes out and he's like, I've changed my mind, bleeping bleep if 295 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:06,640 at this stage in this year twenty twenty four, you were being duped by 296 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:14,160 these people, there's like that's like an intelligence issue, like an IQ issue. 297 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:15,680 But I don't even know how to deal with Like these people aren't just 298 00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:22,720 weak, they're idiots. I think he's weak. I mean, I just 299 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:27,119 think he gets overwhelmed by Senate Republicans, by Democrats, by the President, 300 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:32,759 by the White House administration pretty easily. Now. Whether you agree with what 301 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:36,279 he's doing or not, it's clear that he is not cut out for that 302 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,119 position and that whole I just don't We're not going to talk about this, 303 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:48,519 but I don't understand the whole, you know, getting rid of McCarthy thing. 304 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:51,200 I just don't think it worked out. I don't think we're in better 305 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,519 But do you think Republicans are a better place now? And it was all 306 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:56,319 just I never made for it. Yeah, it's just I'm not saying I 307 00:23:56,319 --> 00:24:00,720 think McCarthy was like the Bee's knees or anything. But this is one thing 308 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,200 where Trump kind of changed my I think I might have mentioned this before, 309 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:07,720 like you changed my view on leadership, which is sometimes it's good to have 310 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:11,640 a squish who needs your support than someone who's with you ideologically who can take 311 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,559 you for granted. And the difference between Kevin McCarthy and Mike Johnson on that 312 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:25,319 score kind of proves that point. You mentioned Ukraine, what so you know? 313 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,440 I mean, so you're saying that they abandoned the border, which they 314 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,480 did, and now they're going to go and I think they're going to have 315 00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:33,359 a standalone on Ukrainian funding. Is that is Raeli funding as well? On 316 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,000 the Ukrainian funding, we don't even know. We don't even know, we 317 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:38,640 don't even know. And listen, I am for Israeli funding. I am 318 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,640 skeptical on Ukrainian funding, especially without any sort of idea of where that's going. 319 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,960 I know exactly where Israeli funding's going. It's going to eliminate Hamas, 320 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:52,440 That's where it's going. What you know, Ukrainian funding is a forever I 321 00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:56,400 just saw a piece today. I just saw a story today that Russian Russian 322 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,440 banks have like historically high profits over the last two years, so they are 323 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,359 going to be well funded, and Russians are in it for a long time, 324 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,680 and they're just going there's going to be a war of attrition going on 325 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,319 and on and on, and we're just going to be funding Ukraine forever. 326 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,279 I think it's a dangerous, laundrous game we're playing there. More money will 327 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:17,960 not solve the problem with the Ukraine Russia conflict. It just won't. The 328 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:25,920 people who designed the Afghanistan War and the Afghanistan occupation of multiple decades and the 329 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,799 Iraq war are behind this proxy war with Russia. And just like with those 330 00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:33,640 other things, they sort of say, give us more time, give us 331 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,960 more money, to the tune of trillions of dollars, and we will win 332 00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:42,160 this thing. They never explained how, they never even pretend to have a 333 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:48,000 plan for how, and more money, more money, to a neocon does 334 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:56,079 not solve anything. They have proven themselves incapable and unwilling to do anything other 335 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,839 than perpetuate conflict. They don't know how to end conflict. They don't know 336 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:03,759 how to win a conflict. They only know how to use conflicts to funnel 337 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:08,759 money to them and their interest groups. And like, at the other end 338 00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:12,119 of that is a lot of dead Ukrainians. And I mean nobody likes that 339 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:18,240 Russia has invaded Ukraine. It's also like nobody's provided a solution other than we're 340 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:23,519 going to fight to the last dead Ukrainian. Why doesn't Joe Biden tell the 341 00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:29,839 Ukrainians that they must have a ceasefire and give into their enemies or they will 342 00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:33,640 not receive another penny, because that's exactly what he did last week to the 343 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:40,079 israelis right, right, and like you take the two conflicts right where. 344 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,000 I mean, they're both an absolute mess. But Israel's like got a clear 345 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,279 idea about how to win and a clear end goal. You can agree or 346 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:51,799 disagree with that. And they're like, you have to do a ceasefire. 347 00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:55,960 Now. Ukraine has no plan really and also has spent a lot of money, 348 00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:57,880 and there are a lot of dead people and a lot of destroyed buildings 349 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:03,400 and a lot of just destry auction. And they're like, nobody is pressuring. 350 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:07,079 Nobody is pressuring a diplomatic solution there, Ukraine and Russia. That's a 351 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,680 situation where diplomatic solution makes a lot of sense, and in fact made a 352 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,640 lot of sense for a really long time. The Israel Hamas thing. The 353 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,680 pressure is on Israel, not on Hamas. I think like if people were 354 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,440 pressuring Hamas and saying we want all you know, is it eight Americans that 355 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,799 they still have I believe, so I'm not sure, but yeah, okay, 356 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:30,160 we want them all back, we want them in better condition than you 357 00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:34,400 took them. And once you provide all of that, you know, immediately, 358 00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:38,160 then we can talk about stopping the destruction. Nobody's doing that kind of 359 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,400 pressure. I saw a piece today in Israel that I don't know if it's 360 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,200 been widely reported, is that Hama. First of all, Hamas keeps saying 361 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,519 no to cease fires, so there is no diplomatic endgame there. Secondly, 362 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,960 there sees fires mean nothing because they're terrorists and they ignore them. There's a 363 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,799 ceasefire on the seventh. Also, I saw a piece where Hamas says they 364 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:03,200 do not most of the hostages are not alive anymore. They can't give them 365 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:10,880 back because they're dead. And I'm just telling you, no Israeli government will 366 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,519 survive that does not go in and eliminate Hamas and Rafa. That government will 367 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:18,160 fall and another government will come and do it. So what Biden has done 368 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,440 effectively is severed the relationship in a very serious way, because there's no way 369 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,960 that an Israeli government can survive. Now I think that Netagna who should go 370 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,880 because he's dragged his feet on this forever. He should have taken care of 371 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,599 it immediately. Donald Trump said that, and his comments were I didn't love 372 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,519 them, but they were misrepresented. He said that Israel was losing the PR 373 00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:45,440 War, that Biebe should have gone in and gotten it done immediately rather than 374 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,920 taking this long while they lose the PR war. And yeah, they're losing 375 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,799 the PR war because there's a full core press of propaganda going on. And 376 00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:59,039 anyway, I mean, I've said this as well before. I mean, 377 00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:03,119 it would be like Joe Biden telling the Ukrainians that they should be forced into 378 00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:06,559 a seize fire, which of course gives takes away all their leverage, and 379 00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:10,640 then form an ethnic Russian state on their border that's going to be funded by 380 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,039 Russia with missiles aimed at their cities. But no, he does this to 381 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:15,559 Israel. By the way, we are allies of Israel for a very long 382 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,480 time. We have signed agreements with Israel. Ukraine has not been our it 383 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:22,519 wasn't our ally until this war started, and all of a sudden there are 384 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:26,960 ally there are. No we're not allied with them, they're not in NATO, 385 00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:30,000 hold on NEO come, they're not well they're not. They're in no 386 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,640 way officially an ally, but they are a proxy state of the United States. 387 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,039 Now they shouldn't be. After the breakup of the Soviet Union, you 388 00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:44,480 had a lot of wise minds who very very carefully handled that dissolution of the 389 00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:48,640 Soviet Union, and those wise minds said, Ukraine will be a problem unless 390 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,079 it's a buffer between Russia and the West. And the US was like, 391 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,000 Eh, well, what if we made it a proxy in our in our 392 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,359 long standing war against Russia that will never end. And so they did not 393 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,319 follow the wise advice of some of those wise minds during the George H. 394 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,920 W. Bush administration, and they have slowly turned it into just like a 395 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,920 it's just a proxy, you know. It's so they're not an ally, 396 00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:18,319 no, but they the UNI Party, And I know that's kind of a 397 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:22,880 silly phrase, but just because they're Republicans and Democrats have done that, have 398 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,920 been very involved in their domestic and foreign operations to the extent that it's not 399 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:33,599 clear that they have much say so in what goes on. Hello, thank 400 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,519 you for listening to The Federalist. This is columnist and podcaster Sarah Carter, 401 00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:42,640 and I would like to tell you about your new best friend on Friday night, 402 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,000 z Biotics. Let me tell you. 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Obviously we help fuel a revolution there against you 421 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:20,400 know, sort of Russian. It's a very complicated situation. The Israeli situation 422 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:22,160 is not as complicated. All I'm saying is that we have a historical tie 423 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,720 to that country, and I do not like people. The Israeli situation is 424 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:35,559 very complicated. We have people say that I think it's as a foreign entanglements 425 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,160 go, it is quite We make it complicated by funding Hamas. I agree, 426 00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:44,400 but I mean the morality of it should be very clear. I want 427 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,960 a Palestinian state there that's like Dubai or Hong Kong. But as long as 428 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,000 it's like Iran, I think it's pretty clear and cut clear where we should 429 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,400 be morally. And you know, I'm just saying as a matter of policy, 430 00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:58,119 there are a lot of Palestinians. They have a lot of support in 431 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,359 the region, but not the kind of support that enables them to go live 432 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,559 in other countries in the region, and they are used as a proxy in 433 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,200 other states wars on Israel, and so it is a delicate situation. I 434 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:13,079 do not support the way we do it now, which is that we fund 435 00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:17,799 Iran, we fund we fund the Palestinians, we fund Israel, you know, 436 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000 we fund it all, and therefore we get prolonged conflict. You know, 437 00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:27,599 who didn't fund Iran and who didn't fund the Palestinians and only funded Israel. 438 00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:30,680 One country, I mean one president was Donald Trump. And you know 439 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,680 what happened there. We had a peace agreement between Gulf States and Israel that 440 00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:39,559 was pretty strong and interesting and economically, you know, help both see and 441 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:42,960 I will just point out on you to say, yeah, you say that 442 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,799 they didn't you know, well, I do think it's worth noting that they 443 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,839 first went to the Palestinians with those peace agreements, like they were the ones 444 00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:53,319 who got the first bite at the apple, and they refused. So they 445 00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:58,759 did the right thing in taking the issue to them. And then when they 446 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,559 the thing that they did differently is that when the Palestindians said heck no. 447 00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:05,720 They just said, well, you don't have veto authority over the larger peace 448 00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:07,639 plan, so we're going to keep it going with other parties. And they 449 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:10,800 did. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to get too deeply into 450 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,800 this, but the Palestindians have been offered a state from nineteen forty seven, 451 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,639 forty eight all the way on numerous times, Bill Clinton and the Israeli government 452 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,000 gave them basically everything they wanted, except for basically everything they wanted, they 453 00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:30,960 rejected it. So I think the Trump administration bypassing them after they rejected any 454 00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:35,639 kind of overtures of peace was genius. It was genius, and it would 455 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,440 have let the peace in the long term and Biden not come in flushed cash 456 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:45,360 on the it's hamas and stuff like that. Anyway, I wanted to make 457 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,159 just one Yeah, sorry, I just want you to talk about what happened 458 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,880 in Dearborn this week too. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. 459 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:58,360 So, Dearborn is a heavily Muslim community in Michigan, So there's a 460 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,960 lot of a lot I'm sure they're very nice people there, but there are 461 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,760 a lot of people who just you know, are anti Semites and there are 462 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,760 a lot of people there hate America and Israel. And the other day there 463 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,440 was some protests there, and there's protest there's all the time. Seth Mandel 464 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,920 a commentary pointed at there's basically a Charlottesville every day and Democrats don't care at 465 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,400 all about it. You know. It's only when there was a couple of 466 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:27,440 tiki torch folks who have zero zero influntact. Yeah, in our political world 467 00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:31,280 that we have to all get our fainting couches. And one of them, 468 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,000 you know, it was just going on about he was actually quoting Malcolm X 469 00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,039 and saying that the United States is the rottenest place, you know, and 470 00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:40,400 death to Israel, and people start chanting death to America because, as I 471 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,199 pointed out in a piece today, when people chant death to Israel, death 472 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:50,239 to America is almost surely coming, you know next. And these are the 473 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,440 voters that Joe Biden is trying to modify. These are the voters he sends 474 00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:58,239 delegates to. And when I say these are the voters, I don't you 475 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,239 know, people call me islamophobic. I mean, care is an unindicted co 476 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:07,360 conspirator in a lot to fund Hamas Okay, one of the guys that was 477 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,920 on one of these committees that they've sent there, who refused to meet with 478 00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:19,159 the by the Democrats, was literally convicted of helping Hamas financially. So I 479 00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:23,920 don't know how Hamas is a terrorist organization according to the US government and the 480 00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:29,960 US Justice Department. And these people are the people that Joe Biden is selling 481 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,719 out Israel for. I think Joe Biden is sort of affeckless zombie basically, 482 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,320 so he does what he, you know, whatever people around him tell him 483 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,719 to do. But there are Obama acolytes around him who have always hated Israel's 484 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,400 always wanted to lift Iran as a regional power, and they're the ones now 485 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:51,599 running our foreign policy. And you know, it makes it angers me. 486 00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:53,400 And I think it's bad for America. I think it's bad for Jewish people 487 00:36:53,400 --> 00:37:00,360 around the world. And you know, in the Democrats say nothing, Chuck 488 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,239 Schumer says nothing. Uh. You know all these guy people who have uh 489 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,400 who ring the you know, who are deathly offended when someone says something bad 490 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:15,239 about George Soros doesn't care that there are Charlottesville Charlotteville's every day in Michigan. 491 00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:17,239 And I don't know, I'm just ranting now, but I'm pretty pissed off 492 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,599 about all of it, and rightly so it's uh, there are a lot 493 00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:29,119 of issues in play, and one is even just how this points to problems 494 00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:35,639 we have with immigration policy, like we should we should vet for hatred of 495 00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:39,760 America. It's impossible policy, and I know, too hard. Yeah, 496 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,280 well it's I mean, we used to ask people like my dad was an 497 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,599 immigrant and my mom and they asked them, have you ever been a member 498 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:50,559 of the Communist Party? My mom had been as a child, because really 499 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,079 it was very hard not to be in Hungary, right, So you asked 500 00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:54,960 my dad, have you ever been a Communist? It's like, hell, 501 00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:59,480 no, I hate those bastards, you know, but he could easily lie. 502 00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:01,920 There's no lie detector tests to see, if you know, if some 503 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:07,199 someone coming from Siria isn't an Islamist. So I don't really know what you're 504 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,280 supposed to do about that, you know, I know, way, I 505 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,480 know one thing you can do. You could not try to lift up the 506 00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:22,039 most radical, terroristic voices among these populations. I'm sure most people are not 507 00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,719 that way, but that's exactly what you know, what democrats are doing right 508 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,519 now. They're willing to sell out. And I just want to quickly say 509 00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:34,039 too. People get mad about this, but the American Jewish institutions that claim 510 00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,079 to be Jewish and American left as Jews also have been selling out to Jewish 511 00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:44,800 people for partisan partisan ship and for votes. And it's just a suicidal thing 512 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,639 to do. And they don't care. They do not care. They just 513 00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:51,679 hate Donald Trump and anything that hurts Donald Trump. They're on board. So 514 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,800 you know, we'll see where this heads. I think it's going to head 515 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:59,519 in a very bad to a very bad place. Anyway, Thanks for letting 516 00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,679 me go off on that. It does. Did you read the piece in 517 00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,400 what is it called? I forget it's FP, I don't know what that 518 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:14,800 stands for free press by this guy from NPR who was writing like about how 519 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:21,320 far gone NPR is and what a bad situation is happening there and how they've 520 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,760 been like just completely taken over by far left crazies. But he wrote it 521 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:31,000 in a very old school NPR style of like remember how like smart people on 522 00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:34,880 the left used to be kind of reasonable, and he clearly, you know, 523 00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,519 was like from that era they were liberals, right, I would say, 524 00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:44,039 and they're no longer that. The guy's name is Yuri Berliner. He 525 00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,679 is an editor of the I think the Money section or something my favorite. 526 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,079 Of course, he still works there, which makes this piece, I know 527 00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:57,239 it was brave, brave, actually brave, which is a thing I rarely 528 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,719 say. I mean, he could lose his job, obviously, a lot 529 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,800 of his colleagues aren't going to like him anymore if they if they did. 530 00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:07,199 But it's interesting that he notes, and I don't have the exact wording in 531 00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:13,480 front of me, that one of the most unbiased and intelligent folks there were 532 00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:20,519 like talking about how they were glad that that emper wasn't covering the Russia the 533 00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:24,039 laptop story because it might have helped Donald Trump, Like can you imagine what 534 00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:29,880 the worst case scenario exactly? You imagine what the worst person there is like. 535 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:37,000 But he began by talking about how they uncritically accepted Adam Schiff's lie that 536 00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:42,039 he had personally seen evidence of Trump Russia collusion, and then when it turned 537 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:45,159 out it wasn't true, they just kind of like left the story and moved 538 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:49,960 on to the next thing. And then they went on to accept the Intel 539 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,119 communities claimed that the Hunter Biden laptop, which was one hundred percent real, 540 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,679 was one hundred percent fake, and that it was you know, Russian disinformation, 541 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,320 when in fact it was a really salacious story about corruption at the highest 542 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:07,039 levels of Washington, DC, and that when he brought these issues to superiors, 543 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:13,440 they just truly did not care about any diversity at all of thought. 544 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:19,280 And he also pointed out that in twenty ten, they had a pretty sizable 545 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:23,480 independent audience, a fairly sizable conservative audience, and you know, like I 546 00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:28,840 think their plurality was liberal, but it was like thirty seven percent. But 547 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:34,079 now it's almost exclusively not just liberal, but like far left, and they've 548 00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:39,519 lost their conservative and independent audience, and that matches with that matches anecdotally with 549 00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:45,400 me. I used to actually appreciate listening to NPR for some of those long 550 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,559 form stories. He talks about the driveway moments, which I definitely experienced, 551 00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,440 where you like sit in your car and listen to the rest of a program 552 00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:58,719 because it's so good. And not only will I not listen to Endpere, 553 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,480 I won't even appear on it, Like it's just it's insane, and it 554 00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:07,159 has been insane since the Trump first Trump era. I mean they were always 555 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:14,119 biased within the normal you know, orders of left wing bias. But yeah, 556 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,719 it's just really high quality programs about interesting, offbeat topics. And that's 557 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,360 why I never like government funding of these things, but at least government funding 558 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,239 to something that isn't just chasing clicks, you know what I mean, is 559 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,599 I think important. So they'll talk about African whatever, you know, or 560 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,559 story in Asia or whatever. So it's very interesting. And yeah, I 561 00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:38,280 used to appear on NPR shows quite a bit, not quite a bit, 562 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,480 but you know, relatively often, and I wouldn't I wouldn't even answer an 563 00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,239 NPR producer right now. I mean, I wouldn't go on there because first 564 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,400 of all, I just don't I like debating people I disagree with what, 565 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,239 you know. It's very difficult on these shows where they'll have like three people. 566 00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:55,119 They had a show I forgot I was called, but it'd be like 567 00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:59,079 right left and middle, you know, would be two leftists and you you 568 00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:00,119 know, and then they wouldn't even ge your time to speak. So I 569 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:05,079 don't need that. But anyway, I don't know, but it was really 570 00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,760 worth a read. I would encourage people to read it. I thought it 571 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,639 was good. Yeah, I mean, and he's not saying he's a laptist. 572 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,760 He's just saying be fair and have other leaders. I mean, this 573 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,440 seems like a completely legitimate liberals worldviews. I strongly imposed Donald Trump, and 574 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,559 I thought we should cover him fairly. All they want to do is keep 575 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:30,000 you poor and stupid. The Watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 576 00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:34,599 Every day, Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and 577 00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:37,760 how it affects your wallet. Some in the media are trying to tell you 578 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,239 it's bad if your prices go down, causing a deflation spiral. If prices 579 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,880 go down, are people really going to hold off on buying things? Doesn't 580 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,519 everyone need groceries. Whether it's happening in DC or Donald Wall Street, it's 581 00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:52,599 affecting you financially. Be informed. Check out the Watch Dot on Wall Street 582 00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:55,360 podcast with Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 583 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,559 Okay, that's enough for that. Let's talk about culture. Well, 584 00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:05,920 I don't know is the Eclipse culture science? It was an event, so 585 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,920 I would say culture. I always think of culture as just when we're not 586 00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:15,039 talking about anything political or like politically cultural. Yeah, so Mark and I 587 00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:21,719 went to Austin for the eclipse and it was fantastic. I just want to 588 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,920 say it was. I almost don't know what to say about it because it 589 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,920 was so unlike anything I've ever experienced in the natural world that I don't know 590 00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:38,159 how to describe what it was like. Yeah, I mean, here's what 591 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,559 I liked about it. I just looked outside I was sitting here at my 592 00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:45,360 desk and just seemed like it got a little cloudy. So it wasn't that 593 00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:47,599 where I was that big. It didn't seem like that big of a deal. 594 00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,960 But I liked that it was an event that almost everyone can talk about 595 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,199 that brought the country together in a weird way where you know, it's just 596 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,880 rare to have events like that anymore, you know. So it was a 597 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,880 nice moment, at least for a few hours. Yes, and I do 598 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,400 love well, Okay, So I want to just say I have witnessed several 599 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,599 eclipses of the type where you are in where you get to see like ninety 600 00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:22,639 percent of the Sun eclipsed by the moon. The difference between ninety percent and 601 00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:28,559 one hundred percent is as different as between zero percent and one hundred percent. 602 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,599 Like I think the difference between ninety nine percent and one hundred percent is about 603 00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,360 as different as zero percent and one hundred percent. And what I mean by 604 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,360 that is a total eclipse. If you get to experience a total eclipse, 605 00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:46,199 that's the thing that's unlike anything else. Ninety nine percent, ninety percent, 606 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,400 fifteen percent, that's all kind of the same. You just look up at 607 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,639 the sun and you get to see like some part of it shrouded by the 608 00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:59,119 moon, but you still see major light. What happens in a total eclipse 609 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:05,480 is an unnatural darkening in the middle of the day of the earth, but 610 00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:10,239 in a way that is very different from night time darkening. And I don't 611 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:19,599 know how to describe it. I'm sorry, but it's it's like something isn't 612 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,000 right. And I don't mean by that that something was wrong. It just 613 00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:27,880 wasn't right. It was not anything that I was accustomed to. And I 614 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,719 love nature, and I love being out in nature at all times of day 615 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,079 and night, and this was just unlike anything I'd ever experienced. The quick 616 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,880 dropping of temperatures, the birds being silent, the crickets starting up, like 617 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:45,199 the animals acting weird, the way the light is just almost like silvery It 618 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,039 was really cool and I'm really glad I experienced it, and it made me 619 00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:52,599 feel very small, and I like that, Like growing up out west, 620 00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:55,079 a lot of nature makes you feel small, and I think that's kind of 621 00:46:55,079 --> 00:47:01,800 a good thing for human to feel. And this was like that times times 622 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:07,519 a billion. Wow, very cinematic but surreal, but so big you can't 623 00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:10,039 even describe it. I get it. I get it. And Austin was 624 00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:14,440 like right on the path of this thing. Yeah, Austin was a big 625 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,679 destination and it was overcast, but I kind of prepared for that and it 626 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:23,480 did not for me. It did not diminish the awesomeness. I guess it 627 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,639 could be even more, which would be like, oh, mind blowing, 628 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,039 because I think the cloud coverage makes it so that it doesn't get as dark 629 00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:36,199 as it would in a clear sky, but right, because the clouds would 630 00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:40,880 reflect some light from outside the eclipse zone the wrong person, Yeah, okay, 631 00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:45,199 but but it was still like the clouds themselves are pretty dark because they 632 00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:52,119 were thunderstorm type clouds, and we got enough like breakthrough from the clouds that 633 00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:57,599 we got to watch the eclipse happening slowly. Did yous ignore all safety instructions 634 00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:00,880 like the president, like the former president of the United States. So I 635 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,920 always like joke about how that's my favorite the picture of him just looking straight 636 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,920 at the sun during the eclipse, contrary to what everybody knows, but because 637 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,360 it was so overcast, you kind of could look at the sun. And 638 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,119 then last night I was like, hmm, I really hope I didn't sear 639 00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:20,880 my retinas. And then I was reading this John Quincy Adams quote about how 640 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,800 he had looked at the eclipse too much in you know, seventeen eighty nine 641 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,719 or something, I don't know what you're with, and how he was worried 642 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,400 about his eyes, and then like months later he was still worried about his 643 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,880 eyes. And I was like, am I the idiot who did not take 644 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,760 enough precaution? But I think I'm okay now? Am I wrong in pointing 645 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,920 out that obviously we had solar eclipses before that this one seemed to excite people 646 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,079 more For some reason. There were states of emergency in Indiana and other places 647 00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:51,480 which just overwhelmed with people. I could be wrong, but I wonder if 648 00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:53,719 it doesn't have to do with just hitting so many more cities than enormous like 649 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,320 eclipses happen all the time. They're just usually over bodies of water, like 650 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,880 you know, oceans and stuff. And there was the one in twenty seventeen, 651 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,320 which I think provoked quite a bit of excitement too, But it was 652 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,239 in a I think it cut a more rural swath, whereas this one hit 653 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,159 just a ton of cities, and I think that might affect it, or 654 00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:20,920 it just was enabling more congestion from the drivable zones for one reason or another. 655 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,679 But the twenty seventeen one went through Wyoming, Nebraska, less populous areas 656 00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:30,599 where it was less likely to create major congestion. But I remember Bend, 657 00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:35,199 Oregon, where my husband is from, was also on the route, and 658 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:40,960 they were pretty overcrowded. Okay, well, I'm happy you got to experience 659 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,719 that. That does remind me. You remember how last week we were talking 660 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,719 about the one reader who's like, you don't have any solutions. I thought 661 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:52,519 the reader email this week about our discussion of that email, that the emails 662 00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:59,320 were fascinating, like about how people who are good at analysis should not get 663 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:05,360 in the business solutions. Like we had several kind of make that that point, 664 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,199 and I thought that was really wise Yeah. Also, if you don't 665 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:15,800 have a solution, you shouldn't pretend you do, because you know it's not 666 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,199 our job. Anyway, we went through all that, but yeah, I 667 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,280 just want to stress I loved love the email. This week we are at 668 00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:27,559 the what is It Radio at the Federalist dot com if you'd like to send 669 00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:32,639 emails disagree with us or whatnot. So you were traveling a lot? Did 670 00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:42,079 you see any movies or do anything worth noting culturally? So I know because 671 00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:45,880 I have been traveling. I'm still traveling. We were in LA for the 672 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,079 Claremont Institute's annual gala. I'm a big fan of the Claremont Institute. Mark 673 00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:59,119 Levin spoke there, which was a really interesting speech. And Mark and I 674 00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:02,599 went to a couple of record stores. Oh that reminds me. I almost 675 00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:06,360 got you something, but then I didn't. Sorry, that's a horrible thing 676 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,039 too. Thanks. Thanks. I got a gift, but I got this 677 00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:15,880 really great mint condition Flash Gordon Vinyl well by Queen. I love that movie. 678 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:21,159 Yeah, and I can share it because I'm giving it to my girlfriend, 679 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,639 who is super liberal, so she will not in any way hear this. 680 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,239 But she's the world's biggest Flash Gordon fan. So I thought it would 681 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,599 be cool to get her that I love that movie so and in the theater. 682 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,159 I'm that old. I loved it, loved it. I thought it'd 683 00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:37,000 be like Star Wars, which just this kitchy, great, just fun movie. 684 00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:42,320 Yeah, all right, that's good. I actually did get a gift 685 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,360 for you and Marca record. Ooh exciting. Maybe now I won't give it 686 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:51,119 to you since not important enough to get a record for it. Now you've 687 00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:54,000 given me a record. I couldn't remember if you like like punk collections or 688 00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:58,119 not. And you know, collections are really hit or miss, and I 689 00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:00,400 feel like I got you one and you didn't like it one. But then 690 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,199 I was like, do I make that up? I don't know. Okay, 691 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,119 you know like compilation. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty finicky. But 692 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,239 I actually went out of my way to watch movies because of the last two 693 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,360 weeks I had like nothing, Okay, so what'd you watch? I watched 694 00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:23,480 Wonka, which with Timothy shallomet Is. It's like a prequel. It got 695 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,039 good reviews, and I just I didn't like it. I just it didn't. 696 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,320 It was I love when I was a kid, and even later even 697 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,320 now. I love Willy Wonka. But I think I was thinking about this 698 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,199 deeply. I think I only love it because Jeane Wilder is in it. 699 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:44,239 Probably Jean Wilder is so such an amazing talent, so funny. I just 700 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,320 didn't get the underlying darkness that is Willy. You know, I'm saying. 701 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:52,360 The Roal Doll stories always have this sort of like an uneasy dark side. 702 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,280 You don't get that here. It's just a very polished movie and very you 703 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,719 know. So I didn't love it. I didn't love it. Then I 704 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,719 watched a movie called The I don't know why, I don't even ask, 705 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,800 but The Miracle Club. It looked like it was going to be like a 706 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,079 wholesome movie. It's on Netflix. It has Maggie Smith with kind of like 707 00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:14,519 and Laura Lenny and Kathy Bates, and it's an it takes place in Ireland, 708 00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:17,039 and it's about like, I don't even know what it's about. It's 709 00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:22,400 just it's a nice story about a group of friends and mothers and this woman 710 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,119 got pregnant when she was young. This is in the fifties and have to 711 00:53:25,159 --> 00:53:29,119 go away and she comes back something like that. I actually like that movie 712 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:35,280 better than I liked Wanka Okay, so there that's all I have. Okay, 713 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,079 we'll talk to you next week. Until then, be lovers of freedom 714 00:53:37,119 --> 00:54:06,280 and to m