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You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience
podcast. Oh, in a way,

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he unmuted us, right, he
did. He didn't mute himself, but

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he muted everybody else. Hey,
you're talking about my guy all wrong.

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Hey, you're talking to my guy
all wrong. It's wrong tone. It's

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the wrong tone again. I'm stabbing
a face for Saturday. I like the

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dog in the back. Where does
that come from? The door? Welcome

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back to the Getting Sold the Experienced
Podcast. I love the Head Nation.

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Ruffie and I are back from Syracuse. Gonzo's joining us. That's the only

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podcast that brings the firehouse kitchen table
and all the guys with all the years

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and the fire is any experience and
everything else. Both two you blocomeby.

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How are you? Gonza? I'm
actually doing pretty good about you a weekend

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here dead. Your father's dead,
everybody out there. We forgot that to

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all your dad's out there in the
leatherhead Nation. Me and Roofie were getting

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it done up in Syracuse at the
show. But it's slow, right,

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rough, a little bit slow,
but we got these what do we get?

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The poker chips are out, baby. It was sounding like hotcakes.

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They were selling watched the Roofie's chagrin
they were selling. If another guy comes

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up and asked me for a pizza
cutter, I'd like to educated to say,

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oh, where pizza thing, pizza
cutter? I might get these left

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with his buddy. I'm like,
yeah, go buy a couple of pair

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on the way, they will get
the pizza cutter. But I don't even

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tell you this guy. So we're
walking to the to the block party,

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which is we roughly we go to
all these things. Bro. We know,

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sausage fests, sausage fest there's twenty
thousand guys that about three chicks and

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come out. Usually we're out,
we go do it, did it,

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but we do want to do chiefly. But he asked us to come.

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So it was raining the whole freaking
weekend. Bro. I'm walking down the

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street and I hit a piece of
wet cardboard. Bro, and I take

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a Charlie Brown header, Right,
I go past me. Right, We're

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trying to break dance in the middle
of everything. Not my partner friend of

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forty sutton is. He don't look
to me and says, oh, Buck,

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okay, you know what he says, what the fuck are you doing?

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That's what it was you're trying to
do the backspin but they did back

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in the eighties. And you see
him walking down the bo He's got his

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shots on. He's so bow legged. It's like the right. So everybody's

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like walking. Bay was like,
hey, how you doing? How you

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do? The next thing? I
know, I see I don't even know

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what the hell he's doing. And
he's like, yeah, he's going head

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over hills, but he's trying to
catch himself. I turned back around to

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like see what he tripped him up, and there's nothing that Like, I'm

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like, what the heck. He's
like, no, no, I was

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on a piece of wet cardboard or
something. So I was crying. He's

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like, yeah, well you know
you should have been maybe like it cools

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you. You are right, you
didn't do anything. He's would go,

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you go, you go, you
go, stay away from the light,

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little buddy, Oh, I would
be. But then the best guys we

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get to the place, we get
to the hotel right where they haven't it

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goes the guy behind me. I
never met the guy in my life.

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He goes, who, buddy,
are you okay? Are you all right?

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I get it from a stranger.
I get it from my saw.

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Well, you don't know, you're
a jackass. He might be a little

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concerned for you, you know.
Yeah, Coops tripped over the air.

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That's what he was tripping, stepped
on it. So we get to the

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hotel. Make a long story longer. We get to the hotel at it's

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me Coobes and uh me Right.
So the two three of us hanging out

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there like staring each other. The
band is like warming up. I'm like,

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what are we doing here? Like? What does this thing stop?

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What are we doing? He's like
you want to get out of him?

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Like, brother, we were like
we got the hell out of there,

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Like, oh my god. That's
why I don't go to those things.

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They all suck. They said it
was good like around an hour and a

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half later. Yeah, I've been
to a couple of fifty icy even those

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can be questionable. What the dog
putties? Yeah, screw that shrip.

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It definitely is a We got Frank
Leab chiefly speaking of Chief Leave coming on

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Thursday night. He wants to do
Q and A. So have you got

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questions for guy like Frank Leaves?
Send them to me Akoum's podcast at gmail

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dot com and we'll read him.
Oh, you can also take a couple

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cheap baskets and go on the souper chat

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and throw them out to him.
That night, he wants to do a

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lot of questions and answers, as
well as talk about some of his fives.

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Gentleman, much funny, All right, what do we got? I'm

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that's kind of suff to put together. And now we have polka chips

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with the car and coming soon a
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set. Fight rough, show it
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time. Yeah, those chips up
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colors, all right, four different
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right? Shall we get our guests
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All right? Brook? You do
it, bro? Do you know how

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to do it really well? And
gold Jews? What's gold Jews? All

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right? Jewels come to the stage
and you're two thirty six and your two

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twenty four firefighter Jews Ellison, Who
oh, you got extra stuff in there?

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A different one. That's a different
one. It's from the freight Agent

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game game who take it easy?
I don't think game oh, a lot

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of stuff on Huh, you can
buy those Bunny Bay really cheap. What

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do you say, Joel's how's it
going? What's off there? A little

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hye been baby? You're ready?
I'm ready. Let's tell us guys career.

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But before we do, we gotta
get patriotic, because we did see

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Mja down there right rof we did
hung out in the booths. Take up

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a little hitch with us. Bro
You know we may or may not have

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drink. I gotta say, I
have to thank all the guys who bring

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drop of booze. They think we're
alcoholis or so, but more guys have

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been dropping off booze at that booth, and you can chake a stick at

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even even a buddy Bobby Devolved,
he did too. I'd do it all

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here we go? Oh say,
can you see buy the Jonesy light?

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What's so broadly? We have the
twilights? Lastlyming who's broad rights? And

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bright stars through the proosspied or the
ramparts we watched were so galls lee streaming

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and the rocket rap glad, the
bombs bursting game fruit through the night that

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our flag wars there, Oh save
us, that stars spangled banget web or

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the lamp of the tweet job and
Jay, why is in the chat?

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You see that guy a mile away
in the when you're in the booth right

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roof? Oh maguire, Oh my
meanderthal coming in there? How about just

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a big guy looks like his knuckles
are dragging on the What are you saying?

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I mean, come on, wait, wait, while on that note,

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we look at him, look at
the sign, Look at him next

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to you. You look like a
ten year old. Wow, there's jewels

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in there, bro, I mean
towering over you guys. Anyways, he's

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big, a man, a man
out of the shot. But tumbo,

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where's that from? Bro? Come
on that photos at the coliseum this year?

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That correct for the Shenatigans. Let's
get a brand. I always been

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a photographer with us. You know, you never know you do? Are

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you with that day? Yeah?
Oh oh oh oh okay. So let's

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get it to Jules's career. Bro. So where'd you grow up? What

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neighborhood you come from? What made
you want to be a fire in any

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family in the fire you know?
You know? Yeah? I grew up

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in Freeport, Long Island, born
in nineteen fifty five, and my my

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father, my uncle's cousins all on
the fire service between Freeport and Seldon,

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Long Island, and my dream,
my dad and my sister taken me to

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the firehouse since I was about three
or four years old. It's just uh,

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you know, love at first sight, watching love the fire trucks.

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And I believe my sister still has
one of my uh papists from first grade

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when they ask you what you want
to be when you grow up? Is

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that right? And my aunt was
a paid New York City fireman? Is

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that right? Oh? My god? Yeah? What were you guys doing

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all the racing back then too,
Like all the races and stuff, like

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what was your father doing that stuff? My father did it back in the

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day. He joined the nineteen thirty
five. He had forty eight years in

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the deployment when he thay, wow, yeah, nineteen thirty five. Yeah,

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that's a couple of years after he
transferred the whole one. He started

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out in Freeport Engine Company number one, and he transferred in nineteen fifty five

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because he moved south and two blocks
away to firehouse. Is that still the

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firehouse? No, that's the park
a lot now. Firehouse now is right

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next to it. And that's what
I have? Is this what it is?

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Right now? Is this? It's? Yeah? I wish that's headquarters.

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Okay, that's one up on the
train station. Bring the picture of

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his dad back, bro. He's
tall guy, right, yeah? Yeah,

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he was six too. What happened
to you? Bro? I got

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my mother's hight coops taking man right
that great got all my athletic ability from

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him. He played softball, ran
tournament same as I. Did. You

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know that he had the honor?
He ran motorized we uh ran old fashioned?

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Wow? Where's the picture? I
thought there was a picture as your

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father in the military? Yeah?
What what's who's who is this? This

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is your dad? My dad was
its You look a little like de Niro

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and a little eighty second Airborne?
Where was he? I guess he was

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in the European campaign? Yeah?
They jumped D Day. Wow, he

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was a D Day guy. Yes, he didn't talk much about it when

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he came home, but think god, he made it home and uh I

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was. I wouldn't be here eighty
second Airborne on D Day Bro. That's

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something to be proud of. Man. That's cool. Yeah, where was

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this picture taken? Do you know
where that was? That I don't know

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is it here or there? I
am not for sure, Lou, but

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it's a it's a nice picture,
you know, something I treasure I have

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on my desk. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. You said you had

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brothers or you're just a sister.
I got four sisters. Well, and

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they were in the volleys too,
No, not a two My sisters are

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deceased and two were still one in
Florida. Went to North Carolina. So

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who was there? A free Port? They were busy vault. We got

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a lot of guys from Freeport on
I know, big John mcguiremo. But

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who was there when you got there? Was like poor Yeasha, and who's

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there? No, they came in
after I did. Oh so there were

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your bops? Yeah yeah, yeahshaging
Uh. Newberry was there before me in

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truck company us Newberry. I got
to I got to be real friendly guys.

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Guys. Tell me I've been a
paid by him in my whole life,

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because when I graduated high school,
I started working in a good old

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f W Wars on Main Street.
I saw it there full time in seventy

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four. And truck Company was right
Acrosse the street on Church Street, and

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my two bosses let me out the
back door go to calls during the day.

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I thought it was great. And
then uh, in seventy and nine,

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while you were doing that, right, Yeah, And in seventy nine

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my cousin knocked on my door.
They were looking for a meter reader for

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the village of Freeport for the water
the parltment. So my obviously, my

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first question to him was, George, I got no problem. Can I

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go to firest on a day?
He says, I don't give a shit

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what you do once you get your
meats ready by the time period. So

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I went on to the village of
Freeport for eleven years, which also helped

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when I retired from the job,
because eleven years carried on to my pension.

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Really oh wow, yes, wow, end up run the fires meters

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run at the fires. They were
doing a lot of work. Then,

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yes, we were. Freeport was
a hot, hot little town. Big

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Queen Annes over there, right,
Queen Anne's High Ranches, a couple of

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st is here and there. Palman
Building's second third floors. Are they the

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busiest on Long Island? The busiest? Hempstead's pretty busy. Yeah, it's

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gonna say we've we've We've always been
back and forth between Hempstead, Long Beach,

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Beach, Uniondale, right, Roosevelt. They they're pretty busy also,

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Yeah, those are all hotbeds.
Yeah, yeah, I live here at

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Long Beach. They have one paid
engine and they paid engine and the rest

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of the volunteer. But they do
some work many, Yeah they do.

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We've gone mutually there quite a few
times. Does three point have any paid

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guys? Any paid or it's all
volunteers. I think a Long Beach is

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the last one, right used to
be Garden City of Long Beach, and

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I think Long Beach is the last
paid one on the island. Yeah,

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Gordon City lost out unfortunately. And
Abby SnO was saying Elmott too. Oh

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they have paid. They might have
maybe a paid ambulance. I know boll

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One I believe has a paid ambulance
now and Oceanside I believe has also,

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right any any good fire stories with
with Hank Ballet or hash hanging or any

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of them. Yeah, we had
a couple of goes. Uh let's hear

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it bro fifty two Russell Place.
I was a second assistant chief and we

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had a fire third floor behind the
stove going all the way up through the

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roof and Hank lay we're on the
roof and he says, man him,

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do a trench cut saved this building? Yes? Today we got to go

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for it because I'm not a truck
You have no idea what you're talking about.

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Were you always in the engine?
You were always in the engine?

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Yeah, no ship nothing like having
the novels, you know. Yeah,

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yeah, but I did. My
first four and a half years in Freeport,

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I worked with Freeport Truck a lot
because I ran across the street and

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rolled the tiller rate. Which was
talking about experience. Try getting get up

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right in the side of that rig
going down Sunrise Highway, taking up two

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lanes of traffic. That's a pretty
crazy man, how it certainly was you?

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Just you love that trench cut?
Trench cut? Love? Did you

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save the building? Yes? We
did? It worked one, We got

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one. We got one? All
right. I heard those two words trench

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cut and on the roof, right, Hey, yeah, and uh,

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A couple of these stories that proves
us my third assistant up. Who was

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the guys that who who are the
guys that you looked up to when you

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first got there, Like who was
teaching you when you first got there.

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When I got first joined in the
holes one, I had guys like Tommy

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Seaman, Jack Combs, Rod Schimmel, Skippy foward, Skippy forward. Was

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taught me how to drive the sixty
one mac. I never drove six shifts

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of my life. And I became
a student driver at nineteen, and he

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taught me. The pump was not
too not too difficult at first, you

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know, pretty easy, but driving
I was like, you got a double

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clutch it and I'm like, I
gotta double clucky. You got a clutch,

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get out of gear, clutter put
back in gear. So my cousin

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Bobby Crutt, worked on a tow
truck, so he took me out on

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his tow truck a few nights,
teach me how to how to shift,

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and that get the you know,
stick you down to a science. By

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the time I got into fire truck, it came natural. And then you

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were driving out like a rape dape. By that time you have the rest

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is history. Then now it's all
automatic, so it's a piece of cake.

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Was your dad Was he still around
when you were working? Would you

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guys work it together? That's one
thing. After I got married, and

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back then we needed three guys to
roll the rig, and plenty of times

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I'd roll out to be two of
us and like, where are you going?

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I said, my father's retired from
the village highway to department. I

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said, he's going to be standing
on the corner waiting for us and go

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down two blocks and he'd be standing
out front. That's great, man taken

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jump in the jump seat and the
way we go. Was he an officer

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too? Is just a five minute
just a fireman forty eight years somebody's got

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to be just as still around now. He passed away in eighty three,

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and if it was in this day
and age, it would have been a

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line of duty death. Well what
happened? We had it. We had

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a call that morning about quarter to
eleven. And I always went the holes

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one to drive during the day,
but it also depended where I was working,

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where I was reading meters. I'd
go to the cultest firehouse. That

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morning, I was north the Summerse
Highway and for me to cross Sunrise Highway

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Merrick Road would a village vehicle with
no lights or nothing. So I went

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to the headquarters and I rode host
two. So nonsense call. I get

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back A while later it's about quarter
to twelve lunch time. I stopped at

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the firehouse real quick, and a
couple of guys are sitting there and I'm

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like, boy, your old man's
pissed at you. I'm like, what

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because he heard you on the front
sheet. The host too. He didn't

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come down here to drive, and
we didn't roll. We had no chauffeur.

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Oh my god, Oh my god. Boys, I said, all

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right, after lunch, I'll stop
by the house. So after lunch,

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I go back up to village all
to our base there for the water department.

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They our office, and police head
quarters is calling me on the radio.

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We're seeing eleven police desks. Forthwith
what the hell they want me for?

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Forthwith? And police head quarters was
right above us. We were in

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the basement office in the little tail. So I ran upstairs and saw Jean

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Steve Yodas, who just passed away
recently. Great guy, got dress of

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the soul. He says, yo, dude, you gotta get to your

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house right away. You follow us
having a heart attack. And I was

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like, well, whoa what?
Because you get home, he says,

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the amblance is there. So I
jumped in the car and I just as

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I get there. They're pulling away
in the amb. Once waded my mother,

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she's going to get my sister.
I meet you at the hospital.

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Unfortunately had an aneurysm and didn't make
it. And today be a line of

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duty death because it was. And
I went a half after the court was

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sixty eight. It's not that old
man. No, why don't you put

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some volley lights in the meter eating
car? Bro? They kind of found

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on that, frowned upon that.
Yeah, favorite line. That would have

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been great, right, Bro.
He was the water guy lights and sirens.

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When I made chief, I had
that much my water cloth like speaking

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about you making chief, bro.
Somebody asked me this question here. Let

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me see, I had a lot
of birds chirping in my ear about you,

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brou ask about the cotton crotch rappers
when he was chief? Who the

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cotton crotch rappers? It says,
when he was the chief rapper like singing,

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I don't know rappers, cotton crotch
rappers when he was chief between your

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legs and your crotch area, I
don't know. I guess you could think

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of we're on babe and uh Atlantic
at an auto accident and some girl from

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over and she wanted to have a
picture take away him the chiefs helmet.

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So I was the nice guy that
I am, put my helmet on,

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and she puts her arm around me
and lifts her leg up, and I

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guess the photo he had no panties
on? Is that found the po but

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his wife and we didn't realize it
until a few days later, when the

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guy who took the photo had the
photo developed him like bally Right, didn't

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realized until months later at the dinner
dance when they were doing a slide.

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Hold on? Was that was that
the seventies? Was that the seventies back

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then? Or was that like the
nineties might have been? It might have

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been a lot of the weed whack
that hold on, let me get in

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there. That was the eighties,
all right? A little bit more still

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so eighty nine? But when did
you take the test anyway, which which

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I took the test in eighty two? Is that the test I got the

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challenged by the women, Yes it
was, so you took it at eighty

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two, and I didn't get up. You didn't get hired till eighty nine,

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thirty thirty four years old. And
still once eighty five passed and I'm

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like, there's no way I'm getting
on a job, you know. And

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when I got the letter, and
I guess it was like July August that

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you know, they've they've been hiring, left that list, but I'm like,

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you know, and my listener it
was thirty four eighty three, and

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I'm like, I don't have a
I don't have a shot, and held

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thirty four. I got at ninety
eight on a written ninety five on the

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physical, and all of a sudden
I got the letter. Hey. I

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was like, gold right, bro, the first letter. I guy,

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the class is supposed to start the
end of September, so I was like,

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oh man, this is great.
And then a week later another leather

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in the mail class that's been canceled
on hold, We'll keep you advice.

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I'm like that's done. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. And then the middle

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of October, got the letter in
date November twelfth, nineteen eighty nine.

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I was like, I was like
the Willie Walker sweepstakes in the mail for

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you, bro, with a golden
ticket. The oldest Proby class. They

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said at the time, everybody's in
their thirties. Yeah, everybody's in their

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thirties. That's like, Holy cow. How many guys in the proby class

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Jills, I want to say three
hundred. That's a big class man.

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Yeah, it's a big class.
Yeah. Yeah yeah, we him myself,

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Tommy's Bagnola and Billy Saint George together, Billy Saint George. Yes,

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guy man. Yeah. He was
two thirty six, started out in seventy

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nine Injine up in the Bronx.
He's also an ex chief of at a

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ball one who chiefs together for three
years. Right, and then he went

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down to the tool room or something. Right, wasn't he doing? Yeah?

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Tool room? And then I think
research development, Oh, research and

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development. Right, he jumped in, he jumped in the in the river.

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He saved somebody somethinghow and oh Dave
Weiss, Yeah, that's how we

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got the rescuer war, right,
I remember the start? Yeah, yeah,

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class that but we can we get
together. We're gonna be the carpool,

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you know. So everyone's whacking up. You're gonna drive a week,

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You're gonna drive a week. So
of course Dave looks at me and goes,

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so we're gonna take the red car
to the rock when it's gonna turn

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to drive. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't

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know. You know what, guys
still did it, bro, We had

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guys still do it in proratard it. But they parked outside. I left

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at home, and that's crazy.
I would never as on your back bringing

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you get We get sworn in now
in November twelfth and I see rescue one

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pull up. I think nothing of
it. Who gets off the rig?

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But two of my buddies, Bruce
Newberry and God Rest of Soul, chief

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Ed Guaranty. Oh wow, And
I knew ed from riding Freeport all the

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time back in the day. They
come in to rescue one with the hash

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of Bruce and they have to call
the chief the commission for them to ride.

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I got to the point because they're
always calling me because I worked in

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town as they If Ed comes in
or anybody else and rescue one, just

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tell them to get on the damn
RIGG don't bother calling me. They I

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know they know what they're doing.
So of course we get all sworn in

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and I keep paying is Hey,
congratulations Chief Government. I'm looking straight ahead,

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I looking at im, mumbling myself. Those sons of pitches, my

405
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.720
chief and the guy behind me,
this guy Mike and my squad goes hey,

406
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.720
because I think they're yelling to you. I said, no, if

407
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:06.079
I thought they were yelling to you, you yelling to you, said,

408
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:11.920
they ain't yelling to me. When
did you become chief? I became chief

409
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.440
in eighty six the ninety so I
was chief of Freeport when I went to

410
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:23.640
Prob School. Oh nice, you
got out of Prob school. Proby School

411
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.079
was a lot of fun. You
know. Jake tableto one of our instructors.

412
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:32.640
He was he was the commissioner Ocean
Side at the time. I guess

413
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:36.319
about a third or fourth week at
the rock training, we're gonna do a

414
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:41.519
revolution call fire, and he's has
a group to getheringm Me tell us,

415
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.640
you know where the guys sit on
the rig. So he picks out a

416
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:48.519
guy for nozzle man in the backup
control from the door. Okay, this

417
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.640
is where you guys sitting. And
of course, because then we need somebody

418
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.440
to ride the front seat, some
officer in charge, somebody who should have

419
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.799
experience with that. Ellison, I
think you should have experienced and riding in

420
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:04.640
the front seat. Get a I'm
like, really know some of a bitch.

421
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.319
Tat's out the bag? Broh,
here you go get my paycheck?

422
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.319
The prob school five five revels in
here to get paid, you know,

423
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:22.160
Wow, Chief allows and I'm like
right like wildfire bro was Sakamano there?

424
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.920
Yeah? Yeah, he was there. I got one of us of our

425
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.039
guys in Freeport had thanks Giving a
dinner at his house and two of the

426
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:36.400
members from his company were there.
And the guy John's following while happened to

427
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:40.000
be on light duty up in the
office up there. He was getting me

428
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:44.720
to retire. He had another week
week and a half left. So when

429
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:46.440
you went upstairs, you had a
knock on that piece of wood, state

430
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.920
your name. You here to clean
up? You know, how do you

431
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.680
remember that? Man? That's freaking
crazy. I remember something I'll never forget

432
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.480
because it was funny, but it
wasn't funny. So the two guys ahead

433
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.480
of me they go in. I
knock on the wood five Ration, every

434
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:02.680
fire fire Ellison, here to clean
your office. And he swings out of

435
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:05.960
his chair, looks at me,
goes, what did you say your name

436
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.160
was? I said Torbration, every
fire fire Ellison. So he says,

437
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:13.759
you better knock a little louder because
I can't hear you so I'm like,

438
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.680
what the hell did I do?
You know? So I banging this thing

439
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:22.039
again? Yes, oh, so
you're that guy that chief that rinky defied

440
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.519
upon them in Freeport. And my
chin hit the ground, like, holy

441
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:29.279
shit, how's this guy? Who's
this guy? You know? You know?

442
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.759
Of course he turns around the Sacama
though he Chief, how would you

443
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.000
like to have a body? Chief? Get you a cup of coffee?

444
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.920
You gotta be his toilet bols?
All right, Chief? He's like,

445
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:45.599
yeah that sounds good, Tom milk
with two sugars and my hands. I'm

446
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.440
telling you, my hands the ship
like a freaking leap on my goldie s

447
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:54.400
you know. He finished slinging up. I'm like, what the hell?

448
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:57.920
So then again, so I'm leaving
the guys say, by the way,

449
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.359
he says, your buddy Johns Hello, So I'm like, I know a

450
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:05.839
lot of Johns. Can I get
a last name with? That? Gives

451
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:07.719
me the last name? And now
I'm like, uh, so that weekend

452
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:13.079
back in Freeport, we have a
run. So I called his company and

453
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.440
say he is so and so on
board. Ah, yes he is.

454
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.960
To send him over to my car. He walked over my car with the

455
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.960
window down. I got about the
throat and I'm like, who is this

456
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:27.480
guy? Reckon? That would be
my father in law. Why did you

457
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.000
tell him? I didn't tell him. Richie and Mike tol him never at

458
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.480
my house for dinner and they said, oh, our chiefs. I'm like,

459
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.400
oh, my god, spaking my
life miserables. He's left a couple

460
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.360
of days. That's okay, he's
retiring next week. I'm like, thank

461
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:44.719
god, doomdele sales step on your
cock back then too, because that was

462
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:49.440
his big thing. Ah, he
didn't, you know. I thought it'd

463
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.039
be worse, but it wasn't that
bad. I was like, man,

464
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:53.599
but you know, getting the Chief
a cup of coffee, I'm like,

465
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:58.039
you gotta be kidney. You know
why me? Is he the chief?

466
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.679
I wrote for you with it?
He said, oh yeah, yeah yeah

467
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:07.440
that was his mean, uh main
thing. Yeah? Alright, So how

468
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.920
do you get? You finished probably
school and you go. You didn't know

469
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:13.920
anybody over there? What happened?
What? Nah? In fact, when

470
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:15.440
I got two twenty four, they
wanted to who I knew to get there.

471
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.719
I'm like, God, I said, I know a couple of guys,

472
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.480
but this was I wanted to go. I wanted to go to injury

473
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.239
company in Brooklyn. Yes, so
the one guy says, look, you

474
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:28.280
just came to the retirement home.
It's like you gotta be give me right,

475
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.480
which street is two twenty four on
Hicks between Satan Hicks Street, right,

476
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:36.320
yeah, back. The first time
going there, I drove right past

477
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.800
it. It blends right in with
the rest of the Brownstones. All right,

478
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.760
I drove right path. I'm looking
all of a sudden as I drove

479
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.960
past it, I'm like, oh, first I had to go around the

480
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:51.559
block again. Yeah, I mean, I'm your new proby. Who was

481
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:55.360
the boss there when you got there? Captain McCarthy turned out later on was

482
00:35:55.400 --> 00:36:00.320
the chief in the three nine while
I was in two thirty six. So

483
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.000
so I hooked on and I never
forget my first run. I gave me

484
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.960
my group chart, the whole bit, and my gave me my little locker.

485
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:14.119
And my first tour was a Saturday, and first run about ten a

486
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.800
half to ten that morning. We
got relocated to two h one and I

487
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:22.079
head back up. So my back
to the to the chauffeur, Richie Sally

488
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.360
jumps on the seat and he's cross
to me, and he looked at me

489
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:29.079
and we pull out the door and
I'm like, he's like, what are

490
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.360
you smiling about? I said,
I can't believe I'm falling getting paid to

491
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.800
do something I love to do,
to fire truck and go to fires.

492
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.239
This is this is great. I
gotta fucking shoot grid on my face.

493
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:43.679
Oh you know, this is the
best. Did he tell you we're doing

494
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:53.519
it wrong? You're doing it wrong? The halls now? Oh yeah?

495
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:59.199
What was that done? What was
that roll? The holls? Now?

496
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.960
Yeah? So I spent uh.
I got there in January of nineteen ninety

497
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:12.679
until February ninety six. You catch
any work there? Put the thing,

498
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.280
you catch any work there? Yeah? We caught a few. Yeah,

499
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:21.760
you know, a lot like you
know, but we had a you know,

500
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:28.079
what were you working on the for
the Saint George's Hotel? Work on

501
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:35.199
vacation? Oh there you go,
John, You missed it even to go

502
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.559
on vacation. Five o'clock one,
we're getting made to leave, and I

503
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.119
see it on the news. I'm
like, you gotta be Kidney. My

504
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.320
groups are working. I would have
been there. I'm like, it just

505
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.239
wasn't meant to be. Did did
they did? What did they see there?

506
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:54.800
What they did with that job that
I really couldn't tell you every besides

507
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.480
the LA they had a lot of
fire. Yeah, all right, it

508
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:00.679
was all hands all over the place. Man, it was all hands of

509
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.679
course the street up you know,
every two district. But I believe to

510
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.760
all fires on another run. So
they were first due. Who was two

511
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:15.119
four sixers first due there? Nah? Nah? Wow, two two sixes

512
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.760
on state treet they would probably they
might have been first on the second arm.

513
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.920
I think they were first there.
Maybe my barings are off there,

514
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:30.519
but yeah, you're jack though,
Yeah, yeah, you're stilling to break

515
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.119
it up there. You were freezing
a little bit. Who were some of

516
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.880
the guys that you remember that like
you kind of took you under that wing

517
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.000
just I mean, I know you
we're doing the volley stuff, but who

518
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.440
was teaching this stuff at the firehouse. Yeah. In two twenty four I

519
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:50.360
had Richie Sally Don Taney was one
of the senior seated chauffeurz Bobby Ryan,

520
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:57.119
great guy, Hazel h a couple
of real good guys. And then uh

521
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.920
Richie Feliciano. He he's another seated
chauffeur. I didn't work one him much,

522
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:06.360
but he was good. But these
are the guys on the backstep,

523
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:12.800
you know, Jimmy Kelty another good
guy. Uh, I mean it lives.

524
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:16.000
Once they found out the Dominic Dominics, you know, first day in

525
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:19.280
the fires, first day the yo, you're from Long Island. You must

526
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.760
be a volley. I said yeah, And they were like, holy shit,

527
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.960
you emit that. Yeah, I'm
proud, I said, I said,

528
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.519
where do you guys live? They
all live on Staten Island. I

529
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:35.159
said, believe I live on Long
Island. The real islands too, right,

530
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.239
And you know you're famous for the
dump. We're famous I having volunteers.

531
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:46.119
And they're like, oh, look
at this, you know. Oh

532
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:52.159
yeah. So and then they found
out about two three weeks later. I

533
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:53.559
didn't tell him I was cheap.
I just thought him I was a volunteer

534
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:59.519
in Freeport. So now we're meeting
Dominic was coming out the Long Island and

535
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:01.840
meet Discus doesn't so he can say, I got your check, I'll meet

536
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.960
you in three part. It's okay. So I met him when I had

537
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.119
the Chiefs car. He gets out
of his car and he goes, holy

538
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:12.360
shit, that's that's yours. I'm
like, yeah, into April. Because

539
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.079
you didn't tell us you were chief. I said, you didn't ask you

540
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.440
just asked Les Volley. So then
I started bringing the chiefs car to work

541
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:24.360
and they loved me after that because
Chief Ganda was the commander in three two

542
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:29.119
he'd pull up, see the chiefs
car off front and he walk in.

543
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:32.679
You know who's like he didn't know
who's whose car is? That said wine?

544
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.440
You know. Oh. Then we
started talking about different things. That

545
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:42.159
one pitch you having me on fire
behind me? That was Hempstead. Were

546
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.960
there on a mutual aid and we
started talking about that. Yeah, and

547
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:50.159
whatever he came in for, he
forgot what he was gonna yell out us

548
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.960
for. And we started talking.
Volley, you've talked to every guy's.

549
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.639
Oh man, we like when Jules
was working, when Gands worked, because

550
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:59.880
they stopped talking bolly stuff. You
take the chief out of here. You

551
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.920
have to worry about nothing. What's
that fire down below? That with the

552
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.480
bucket that's the same one, Oh, the same job. Yeah? And

553
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:15.360
where is that Hampstead? Oh?
You mutually we went over in Boston's.

554
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:17.239
We got to have grant the chief
a you need something from free Port because

555
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:21.599
yeah, I get me an injured
in a ladder, no problem, Yeah,

556
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:23.239
next thing, he had us up
on the roof, and how long

557
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:29.639
were you chief? For four years? It's a four year term. Assistant

558
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.239
chief yeah, third assistant. Yeah, you move up the chiefs. So

559
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:36.480
it's chief chief of the palm in
eighty nine to ninety. I got out

560
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:43.440
April nineteen ninety, chief of the
Parmen three hundred, about forty guys.

561
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.920
Was it a bitch getting to two
twenty four? Like from Long Island?

562
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.880
That's god, Oh my god,
a little it was horrible. You know,

563
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:58.639
a good day our forty five minutes, Yeah, that's all about now.

564
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.599
If you tried to do that now, that was then do that now?

565
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:05.400
Couldn't even the rain, forget it. Two two and a half hours

566
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:07.119
to get home in the rain.
It was like, oh my god,

567
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:12.679
So three and a half yearsn't a
job. One of our good lieutenants,

568
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.679
Lieutenant Golden, was promoted at two
thirty six and he's like, what are

569
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.440
you doing? You got to go
to two thirty six. I said,

570
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.639
I know. I got a couple
of my buddies there. He was,

571
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:23.880
who do you know that? I
said, Peter Strall, Billie Telford,

572
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:27.320
Oh my god. I worked with
those guys and said, yeah, they

573
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:29.960
every time they see me, they
break my balls. When you're gonna come

574
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:34.039
to two thirty six. So I
put the paper in, Chief gained it.

575
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.760
Wouldn't sign it because that wasn't first
grade. That was a lot of

576
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:40.800
those play My cousin couldn't get out. He went to one on one Okay,

577
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.000
couldn't. Yeah, he couldn't get
out of that until his first grade.

578
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:47.760
Yeah, yeah, gained. It
was big on. I'm making first

579
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:51.199
grade. So after I made first
grade, I finally put the paper in

580
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:55.480
and we're out underneath the Brooklyn Bridge
multi unit drill and he pulls up.

581
00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.320
He gives me one of these,
So I shut down that on it come

582
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.000
down and he goes, what's this? I said, it's called a transfer

583
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:07.880
paper, Chief, and I have
first grade. See. He goes,

584
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.039
h, what do you want to
go there for? I said, because

585
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:14.760
they I'm not getting any younger.
I said, I'm freaking forty years old.

586
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:17.320
Holy shit, man, that's crazy. I want to fight fires,

587
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:21.800
I said, you know, And
they got nothing but pigeon cool. That

588
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:23.719
might be pigeon cools, Chief,
but at least it's a fire. Pigeon

589
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:27.760
cool. That's a good one.
I like it. So he's all right.

590
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:32.159
You know you have a hook and
that's the hook ed. Gavity was

591
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:39.760
captain and my uh mental with him
with Freeport then my Freeport rigs, you

592
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.880
know. So I give him a
buzz and I said, hey, cap,

593
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:45.119
Hey, hey, don't chief.
I said that good. I said,

594
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.039
I just want to let you know
I'm putting my paper in a transfer.

595
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.119
Its two thirty six. He's okay. He says that right now we

596
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.079
have no openings, but one of
our guys might be going to squad one.

597
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.639
I said, all right, I
said, just one of your heads

598
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.519
up. I stopped by the A
the other day. You aren't there,

599
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.519
but you know I saw a couple
of eyes. So he goes, oh

600
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:05.679
yeah, he goes, you have
any hooks at the job besides you?

601
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:07.159
The only hook guy I know was
Ray Maguire. He knows what people in

602
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:12.360
the job than I do. When
he ain't yeah, so he laughs,

603
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:14.599
he's yeah. So as soon as
I hang up the phone with him,

604
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.480
I called my brother Ray. I'm
like, hey, I just dropped your

605
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:20.320
name with ed Garretty. I said, I just put my paper in the

606
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:24.360
transfer. He says, no problems. I'm just happening to going to his

607
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:29.920
house tonight for his surprise birthday party
for him. So I said, Okay,

608
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.719
that guy know from somebody not being
on the job. That guy knows

609
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.280
everybody. Yeah, he's one hell
of a guy. Amy, he a

610
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.639
great I love that guy him at
his brother he's a brother man. Let

611
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.440
me tell you he's my right hand
man. One of the best assistant chiefs.

612
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.239
I mean I had three good assistant
chiefs. I was a free Port

613
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:51.559
him. I had Kevin Knowle who
happened to be a free Port police officer,

614
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:55.280
and Bruce Newberry Quinn X for three
better guys, especially the eight weeks

615
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.800
nine weeks I was in probi school, I was practically at a free Port

616
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.559
those three guys rand of the department
while I was going. Couldn't here for

617
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.239
a better three guys to be an
assistant chief with no what what made you

618
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:14.599
pick two thirty six? Well,
I do Peter stroll and every day and

619
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:20.719
I and I like you sitting me, saym was I probably cut an hour

620
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:24.400
off your commute for easy, right
easy? On the second and third choice?

621
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:31.000
You put down second and third choices, No good man even gained the

622
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:34.960
moses that like your second choice?
Is it some second choice. Its two

623
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.480
thirty six, So I'm gonna stay
here. Yeah, Now go ahead,

624
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:45.679
tell him it seems like I went
to ninety. I was saying there so

625
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:52.599
many times driving these guys because he
don't pride. I used to tell him,

626
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.840
you guys had prog you go to
show for school. If I want

627
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:58.239
to come down here, you know, I wouldn't have to be here in

628
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.440
this ship shop. Then they tell
me, you know, a couple of

629
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:05.159
times I get down here, they
knew the guys didn't know I was the

630
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.239
chauffeur, and they're telling me,
hey, just to let you know it

631
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.519
goes, we get out quick.
I said, oh yeah. I said,

632
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:13.519
well, you're not going anywhere but
at me, because I'm driving this

633
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.000
piece of shit today and have two
thirty six is second to the We're gonna

634
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:21.679
be sitting here for a while.
Are you that close? Bro? Are

635
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.039
you running to each other? Man? Not really? I mean we run

636
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:28.719
first and third. We're in the
same battalion, but we Yeah, it's

637
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:34.039
it's spread out. We were We
were three two with two and a quarter

638
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:37.639
and one or seven three thirty two, one seventy five, and we got

639
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:45.519
the queens a lot and it was
ninety three, three thirty one. Yeah,

640
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:47.320
we wouldn't see them until did you
guys know each other though when you

641
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:52.199
were in ninety Yeah? Yeah,
they drove them. Somebody had to get

642
00:46:52.199 --> 00:47:00.079
them to the fires. So back
with together. I'm sorry. So that

643
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:01.960
Sunday morning, Ray calls me.
He says, hey, he says,

644
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:06.360
you didn't hear from me, but
you're going to two thirty six, so

645
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.199
I'm I'm happy to picking ship.
I'm like, oh my god, because

646
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:13.440
Ed's gonna be corn you later when
he wakes up. So later on that

647
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.039
afternoon, Ed calls Mean. He
says, your boy Ray drives a hard

648
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:20.159
bogging but if I want to keep
going with Freeport to different affairs and to

649
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:25.079
the files X fowl, congratulations you're
in two thirty six. Wow today,

650
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.519
Thanks Cap, I really appreciate it. And he goes, I'll even put

651
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:30.920
you in with your your your volley
friends from Oceanside and Ball. When he

652
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:37.199
put me in with Peter Stroll and
Billy Saint George, oh my god and

653
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.760
the guys in two thirty six.
The coodn't x with better bunch of guys

654
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.519
to work with. Let me tell
you what was your first tour? Like

655
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:45.880
you remember your first tour, Like
did you did you have a job that

656
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.599
day or not? What was your
first job? Nah? I was say

657
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:52.400
about a week and a half before
you had a first job, you know,

658
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:59.320
a little small base and fire on
fountain, but uh, just working.

659
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:04.559
Peter Stroll was a chauffeur Steve Cassidy, crazy as hell, great guy.

660
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:09.519
Uh. We used to drive Pete
Strolling nuts. My first my first

661
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:15.320
twenty four partners JOSEPHS Starry. We
get our calendars out and we've been doing

662
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.280
twenty fours for the month. Pete
would be going nuts. How how do

663
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:22.800
you know what's going on the end
of the week alone the end of the

664
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.920
month. And I said, well, he knows his side job. My

665
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:28.320
side job. We don't do what
he does. Well, I used to

666
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:30.000
do that. Yeah, if you
had to switch, you would switch,

667
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.920
but you have Yeah, so we'd
have it all and Pete would go nuts.

668
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:38.000
Then about two or three months into
it, I grabbed Joe one morning,

669
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:43.239
I today, I said, when
we go downstairs, besides doing this

670
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:46.880
month, let's do twenty fours for
next month. D Pete nuts. So

671
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.360
we got downstairs and I'm like,
hey, you got your calendar. Now

672
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.800
we got the calendar out and now
like, okay, yeah, I got

673
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:54.199
a softball game here is. I
can't do that. I got this here

674
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:57.880
three part I can't. So we
do the twenty fours. And I said

675
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.079
like, okay, how about next
month and pizza I get back. Gu

676
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:06.159
guys kid me, I'm going to
mar You got to going next month already?

677
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:07.639
Yeah, Pete, I said,
we have our life to get out

678
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:13.599
already, and we go to go
to the next month. I can't believe

679
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:19.440
it. That's good. So you
worked with Steve, Yeah, work with

680
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:27.239
Cassidy. Imagine he was the the
delegate right for two thirty six when you

681
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:31.079
out there. Yeah, so he's
the delegate. He winds up being the

682
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:38.000
president. Yeah, he was.
And three of us tell him, Steve,

683
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:42.159
you know a lot of stuff,
why don't you just went for president

684
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:44.239
first? He was like, nah, nah, I don't want to get

685
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.239
involved with that ship. Damn.
A couple of the guys finally talked him

686
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:52.679
into it, and it just took
off and did the hell of a job.

687
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:58.360
He did a great job. He
did did so those guys they come

688
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:01.719
back and worked at Roster Staffings,
firehouse, right. I don't know.

689
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:06.679
Now, some guys, dude,
but most guys don't come back, I

690
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.039
don't think. But they can.
I know, that's what I heard.

691
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:13.400
They could. But if and if
he did, he did when I wasn't

692
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:17.119
working, you know, yeah,
you would remember that. Yeah, but

693
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:22.000
then, uh, what is he
doing now? I couldn't tell you.

694
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.360
I haven't seen him in a while. He's not involved with the unions anymore.

695
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.639
He didn't go to the to the
national or anything like that. I

696
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.519
don't I don't know what he did. You know, last on my phone

697
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.679
was two two years ago, our
lunch, and he came in this past

698
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:43.960
year. He wasn't there. So
all right, so give us some fies

699
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:45.320
to us from the I want to
see that. There was a couple of

700
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.440
pictures of the firehouse. You gotta
see the picture. The one. Yeah,

701
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.320
that was freaking awesome. That was
that's one of the firehouses that has

702
00:50:52.400 --> 00:51:00.400
the uh BFDE. They don't have
that on the door anymore though. No,

703
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:09.360
No, we had a car crashed
through. Oh there's that right repainted.

704
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.559
That's that's a new teacher they came
up with a couple of years ago.

705
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:20.039
You ain't first your last rickey,
Bobby. Then that's the firehouse,

706
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:23.639
like the firehouse Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's cool. It looks

707
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:29.599
like thirty five, a little right
five. It does, it does.

708
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.199
The only thing I believe different is
two thirty five. Their door odd door

709
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:37.079
is here on the on the right
side. Their door is on the left,

710
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.639
and the conduit you can't see it
is just right to the left.

711
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:45.519
Is like a yeah, can do
it. It's like Queens Boulevard made.

712
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:47.119
It's so great right there right because
you can turn out real quick and be

713
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:53.960
on the conduit. Oh yeah,
going to Queen's Cross Babe Boulevard felt like

714
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:58.760
a shot. Would you go that
far over by on Golden Pond over there?

715
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:07.480
Yeah? Second, due, third
dude. Often middle of the night,

716
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:12.480
no traffic. Who used to come
there? You guys had the bottles,

717
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.760
right, Did you have the bottles
over there? Yeah? Remember bottle

718
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:24.079
We had to talk about system.
Yeah, cascade, the empty place,

719
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:32.960
bottles, bottles of beer, bottles. I swear to be a bottle taking

720
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:38.119
like what you guys with the bottles. We've had a lot of good guys

721
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.840
passed with thirty two thirty six,
Like I had to play the drive in

722
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:50.000
Sirocco. He's now a uh does
the division commander now the Bronx, Paul

723
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:52.280
Canappus Cannas. I like Paul,
Yeah, I like Paul. Yeah,

724
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.639
he's captain on one fifty five I
believe. Is that right? That's right?

725
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:58.199
You know what I think? I
remember that? Yeah, I like

726
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.559
Paul. We got along well,
drove d Toronto. He was a gene,

727
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.679
was a rip. He was a
great guy to work with. Jimmy

728
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:08.559
Martinian, how long were you there
before they sent the chauf for school?

729
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:10.800
When you were a chauffel ready when
you went there? Now they sent me

730
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:15.159
the schau for school. I was
there about two years and they called me

731
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.400
at home says, I'm gonna send
you a chaff for school. I said,

732
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:22.440
okay. Now it became a backup
chauff And of course, first day

733
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.000
back out of chau for school,
I walk in the firehouse and of course

734
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:30.679
a big chalkboard. You see seed
two ninety, See you Jules much.

735
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:36.639
You've gotta be kidney at least you
go to fires Then did you see what

736
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:38.920
somebody wrote there? I saw that? Quick, guys pull up back out.

737
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:44.639
I thought you're gonna listen to a
guy named Bill in two ninety.

738
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:49.239
Those who know no, yeah,
those who know you can't have last name,

739
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:52.920
last name burn. Yeah, his
name is Joey Flame. Yeah.

740
00:53:53.000 --> 00:54:05.360
Those who know no, Hey,
oh I got no more use for this

741
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:09.119
guy. I got no, You're
gone listen. I don't know, but

742
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:14.119
just talking to my friend the wrong
way. Gods, you know what I

743
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:17.559
mean? Oh you mean? Hey, you're talking to my guy? All

744
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:22.199
wrong? It's wrong, Tom,
it's again stabbing a face with a saddowing

745
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:31.239
eye. Hey, Billy Byrne,
all wrong? I love it. You

746
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:38.880
do it your face? Who was
the red There was a captain, a

747
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:44.239
red headed guy. What was his
name? Oh? Yeah? Was that?

748
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:45.159
Were you that? You were still
at right? Yeah? I was

749
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:49.119
still there with that. I forget
what his name was. You seem like

750
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.000
a nice guy too, if I
remember right, Yeah, Uie mulligan was

751
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:54.599
one of the best captains we had. That he was good. And Kevin

752
00:54:54.679 --> 00:55:00.719
McCabe. Kevin McCabe left as a
lieutenant and came back as captain. That's

753
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:05.079
the guy, isn't that the guy? That's not the guy I thought that

754
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:07.599
was. I remember that name,
I remember him. Yeah, he was

755
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:09.679
he was. Yeah, he ended
up on fourteen breaking his back. They

756
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:16.400
hit a pothole, stinkhole, steakhole, right, pile on the rabbit now

757
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:21.320
because Grogan Photos is getting over its
its Two thirty six definitely better run to

758
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:27.440
work ratio than two ninety. Yeah, that's a no brainer. We all

759
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:30.039
know that. Yeah, if that
was the case, I go to three

760
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:35.559
thirty two. You know, three
thirty two is the best second to engine.

761
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:49.519
It needs to go shotim bro hold
on, guys, guys, who

762
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:52.800
would you run in the most with
one seventy five or one oh seven?

763
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:55.760
Yeah, probably about the same dude, first and second dude to all our

764
00:55:55.800 --> 00:56:01.000
boxes. Just about you ran him
one forty three, Yeah, one forty

765
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:06.960
three. When we went to Queens
or the north side, but any well

766
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.960
down south there was one oh seven
or one seventy five. Now, Ronzona

767
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:15.320
used to say one oh seven truck
and queens, right, is that?

768
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.000
What does that with? Two thirty
six? Says busiest engine and queens?

769
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:23.960
Some of my guys two thirty six
You guys are queens, right, Mike,

770
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:30.119
Well it seems that way because we're
always going the McKey was the guy's

771
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:34.719
name, McKean, mcke that's it. Yeah, that's Billy Burnt round and

772
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.760
then Billy Burnt's got to be on
the job. Bro Billy burn Billy Burne,

773
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:40.440
when you step forward and give us
details a little clue, you might

774
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:45.639
be because he ruffled my buddy feathers
over here, all right, we don't

775
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:50.880
have feathers getting ruffled, all right. Hey. Another good lieutenant was Mike

776
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:55.519
Delina. Delina was a rip he. I don't know if I remember him.

777
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.760
He retired as a battalion chief.
He was a really good guy.

778
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:08.559
He was just before Cannappus. When
did Paul get there in the early two

779
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:15.159
thousands? Probably, I would say, I can't remember. Why do you

780
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:19.079
need a sound familiar Roughy? Was
he a neighborhood guy? How was he

781
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:25.800
Cannappis? Yeah? Uh? What
do you work as a finding you know?

782
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:29.559
I don't know. I only know
him from there. Huh did you

783
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:34.440
work at two thirty six rough when
you were bouncing? I mean I worked

784
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:37.320
there. I worked there a few
times. I remember. Yeah, I

785
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:43.079
don't remember. I don't I remember
working there. M I guess you caught

786
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:45.679
no work. I tried to get
him a job. I caught a job

787
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.159
in Queen. Yeah, actually that
was the case a couple of times.

788
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:52.000
Believe guys, why don't you put
you come over here with us? I

789
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:54.440
think I caught a job in Queens
one time. Yeah, how was that

790
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:59.199
all weird to me? That that? Uh the con do it there?

791
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:02.559
You know how how it cut across
the like how they would cut across the

792
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:07.320
conduit to get to the north side
of Uh. Yeah, you used to

793
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:13.079
do like some funguli thing to get
through traffic. Yeah. And then Polly

794
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:15.760
Knapp as the one we have a
we have a run one morning? How

795
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:20.400
many times did we go to Shepherd? A couple of jobs on Shepherd three

796
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:24.719
o'clock in the morning. I'm allawa, land, let's go to thirty six

797
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:30.119
first two Shepherd. So I get
hunt the rigs, I pulled out and

798
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:32.760
I'm like, I brain freeze.
I'm like where the hell? So I'm

799
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:37.519
looking at canapins. I'm like,
Loo, which way is Shepherd? He's

800
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:38.960
looking at me, like you kid
me right? I might just slip three

801
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:43.920
times. Yeah, I'm like,
lou to the left or to the right.

802
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:45.719
He looked at me to the left, jewels to the left. I'm

803
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.519
like, oh, then you know
it popped in my head. Now now

804
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:53.480
I know where I'm going. Okay, I was blocked right there to the

805
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.800
left. What's that? What's the
street? That you're that's right in front

806
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.280
of the firehouse. What is that, Josha? There was like, yeah,

807
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:05.679
there was like three or four blocks
right there that were like frames and

808
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:08.480
also that those were good blocks in
there. Yeah, quite a few.

809
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:13.199
Where is that? That? Is
that over by Franklin K Lane? Over

810
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:15.159
there? Is that where you used
to get used to go over there?

811
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:22.159
Is that? We're like second D
north like the Autumn Street, Autumn and

812
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:27.199
all those other streets over there.
That's the how to get it there,

813
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.079
like a train thing there or so? How did you remember going like through

814
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.000
something you had to go through to
get north? It was like a little

815
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:39.880
bit of a weird thing. You
couldn't go just figure down Fountain. You

816
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:44.559
can go straight north on Fountain from
there. Yeah, I don't know.

817
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:51.440
I don't remember Logan Logan right,
Yeah, that was a decent run.

818
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:58.679
How long we are before you got
the seat, Jules? Uh probably up

819
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:04.480
four years. It was a backup
between John Lennon, Stroll, Kenny g

820
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:07.920
and Elly a good, good guy, a lot of laughs, and then

821
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:13.800
uh Letting got promoted and then uh
I got the seat and I saw doing

822
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:17.239
that. I saw doing twenty fours
with Pete Stroll but by the month.

823
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:23.000
Yeah, no, it was by
the day. Yeah, Pete got his

824
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:27.119
revenge. Yeah. Yeah, what
are we doing tomorrow? Are you going?

825
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:30.800
You want to set up the next
set? Yeah, I'll talk to

826
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:35.400
you in a couple of days.
Yeah. God, holy shit. That's

827
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.840
another good guy in two thirty six
and a great story. Glenn Bullock end

828
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:44.800
up going to rescue one. Oh, a great guy manh Yeah. He

829
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.280
calls me up one morning, coming
early for him. They're gonna go hunting.

830
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.039
He wants to leave by five.
Yeah, no, poblem, I'm

831
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:54.599
coming in. So I get there
about core to five. I go up

832
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:58.400
change. It's what he got.
He's I got the nozzle, Okay,

833
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:02.559
got you? He leeve? He
can't be out the door ten minutes minutes.

834
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:07.599
You know what's happening. We catch
a second job at three thirty two.

835
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.840
We pull up. Three thirty two
has their line. They took their

836
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:14.360
second line and laid it in the
street for us when we pull up.

837
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:19.360
We took the exposure. Couldn't wait
to get ahold of him. Glenn anytime,

838
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:23.440
if you early, relieve pal call
me. I can't believe this,

839
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:31.800
Thank god. That question from Kevin
Brown. He's asking as a chief in

840
01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:36.599
Freeport, how do you feel,
meaning you, Jules, when his company

841
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:40.360
officer in the FDNY didn't do something
he maybe agreed with can you read it

842
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:43.800
okay, in case I didn't come
across the right way? Yeah, I

843
01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:47.280
see that. As a chief in
Freeport, how do he feel when his

844
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:52.599
company lost in the didn't do something? Oh? Yeah, sometimes I just

845
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:57.360
also I had to bite my tongue
when they you know, I would have

846
01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:00.400
done it, maybe something different.
But you sit back and go, hey,

847
01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:05.239
I'm not the boce here, you
know, I'm just a fireman.

848
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:10.360
So yeah, that gotta be I
guess we do, especially if you're a

849
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:13.719
chief and then you go, you
pull up to a job and then the

850
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:16.039
chiefs maybe doing something a little different
than you might do. I know.

851
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:20.320
But and that's a lot of rank
to jump, you know. If you're

852
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:23.360
a fireman, as you know,
that's a little bit. If you're a

853
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:25.920
lieutenant you can, or a captain
at least you can go up to the

854
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.639
chief. My wife asked a little
time, you know, wantn't to take

855
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:34.800
the test? Take the test?
I'm like, why doesn't have to leave?

856
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:37.599
Two thirty six? I don't want
to leave. I thought I could

857
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:43.679
end up in Manhattan. Yeah,
I mean, God rest his soul.

858
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:49.599
Led Gavity after he got the Italian
nine. We're at the Firehouse X Ball

859
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:52.599
in Baltimore and he grabs me on
the side. He asks me to be

860
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:57.719
his aid July of two thousand and
one, and I told him, I

861
01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:00.880
said chief, I said, I
appreciate the offer, but I said,

862
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:04.360
uh, you come you come back
to three nine. I'll drive you in

863
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:07.880
heartbeat. But I said that I'm
not going to Manhattan. I said,

864
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:12.559
that's Hatton is in my cup of
tea. I took some balls to turn

865
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:15.159
him down as he brought you over
man who I know it was hard,

866
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:23.000
but yeah, you know Jimmy Garretty, Oh yeah yeah we worked with him.

867
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:27.760
Yeah yeah, yeah. In fact, I came up from Delaware for

868
01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:32.039
his funeral. You know, did
um what was gonna say? Who took

869
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:37.480
over garretty spot when he left in
the three nine? We had no no,

870
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:39.800
no in uh in two thirty six, when oh, when he left

871
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:45.760
as captain? Yeah it was uh. I think Kevin McCabe got him when

872
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:49.360
he when he left? What was
it? You Mulligan like Camry Mumber?

873
01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:52.880
How many captains you go through it? There? Fella? God, we

874
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:58.000
had you Mulligan, we had McCabe, we had Qwen, and I think

875
01:03:58.000 --> 01:03:59.800
I might have been one more.
I mean about while I was there.

876
01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:04.280
I think there was two bosses went
through there. Actually, now that you

877
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:08.199
say that, but you were in
that area for eight years, rough nine

878
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.559
years, almost nine years. Yeah, that's a long time. I remember

879
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:14.880
the boss. There was a few
lieutenants that went through there. I remember

880
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.880
Pole Knappus was bouncing around when he
got that spot. I remember I remember

881
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:21.719
him because he used to bounce around. There was a few other people that

882
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:27.239
ever loved. I got the composal
until the Composi came in on that they

883
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.679
had our spot open for the six
months for training. Then after six months

884
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:36.360
Composi comes in and he's like,
hey, tonight's my last tour. What

885
01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:41.079
do you mean your last tour?
There was little Chief Peculiar. Captain mcuman

886
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:45.320
just sent the paper over the Chief
Keys that he wants to keep the spot

887
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.320
open again. So I was a
little annoyed. The Keys. I remember,

888
01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:51.360
Oh yeah, Kee, we had
a lot of fun together. Yeah,

889
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:58.079
me too. We had a few
words now and then any finger on

890
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:02.199
the broch like me man. He
didn't like me allegedly. So I called

891
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.159
m Q and at home, I'm
like, Cap, what are you doing?

892
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:09.719
I said, we worked with the
guy, we liked the guy.

893
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:12.639
I said, nothing funny. When
I said, as a senior guy,

894
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:15.000
I think it would have came and
asked me, you know what we think

895
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:16.880
before you tell him we don't want
him here anymore, because oh, you

896
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:20.920
guys really want him. I said, yeah. So the Q and called

897
01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:24.360
the three to nine, talked to
Keys and they threw the paper out,

898
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:28.079
and Keys calls me to say,
is your boys staying? That's how great?

899
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:32.000
And two weeks later I get hurt. I'm out and you're out.

900
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:39.719
That's where Cooks did to me.
Come on back. I'm like, yeah,

901
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:42.119
all right, I'll come back.
Listen, take care. What was

902
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.280
great? Great? Sea? Yea
right? Chief Daily was saying, Mike

903
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:48.960
Lee, Oh yeah, Mike leave
right. I could I forget Mike Lee.

904
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:55.880
I'm speaking of finger poking. Chief
Daly said, did not poke him?

905
01:05:56.440 --> 01:06:00.920
Well, your finger when your finger
is shaking. Yeah, we had

906
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:02.840
close. We had a couple of
googles with Chief Keys. He didn't like

907
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:10.199
some of my answers happened about that, but you're all about and I liked

908
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:13.800
him, but he just he was
a certain way. Just uh. I

909
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:15.639
mean in the end he's the chief. But oh yeah, well we we

910
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:20.679
beat two in the quarter into one
of the border boxes like Uclid in the

911
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:26.039
sutter m hm, and pull up
to the corner, flamed out the window,

912
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:29.719
people yelling, you know, I
pull up two in the quarters,

913
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:33.039
fall blocks down. So week a
week or so later with the firehouse,

914
01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:35.960
he comes in and he's like,
you know, I was like two in

915
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:40.559
the quarters upset. You know you
japped them out of the box. I

916
01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:43.239
saiday, I said, you know
I didn't come in that tour and say

917
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:45.400
hey, I'm gonna screw two and
a quarter out of a job. And

918
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.360
I said, you know we can't
speed down Uclid heaving you blow the potholes.

919
01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:51.280
And I said, Chief, not
the front, and change your tours.

920
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:56.079
We know who's getting on our rig, and we're going change your tours

921
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:59.599
because I've been down in the drive
and everybody's figuring who's riding here, who's

922
01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:02.039
riding Yeah. So I finally told
Keith Keys, you know you snooze your

923
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:05.360
lose. That Billy Sider was the
yate. He looked at me, He

924
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:08.440
looked at Keys and goes, just
shook his head. He goes, I

925
01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:13.599
don't think the Chief one to hear
that answer as well. That's the only

926
01:07:13.679 --> 01:07:16.679
hit I got for you. You
know this, bok, this is Brooklyn,

927
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:20.599
not the Bronx. Right, bron
do right? I go, I

928
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:23.719
got a couple of buddies up in
the Bronx and I'm like, you got

929
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:26.199
a kid, But he gave stopped
and go ahead, come on. No

930
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:27.920
no, no, no you go
no, no, no, you know

931
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:33.079
what you you know what? You
fucked my sister, you know. Yeah,

932
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:36.599
I just actually I just spoke the
Chief Coward a couple of days ago.

933
01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:39.840
I'm trying to get on the guy. Yeah, I went down.

934
01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:42.159
I went down one of the guys, one of the yates. Uh,

935
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:45.679
the quarter got hurt and Howard Twam, the ex would come out to be

936
01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:50.159
the aid if Wolf two tours.
They thought he wants to be out long

937
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:54.480
term Rooney and I end up being
the coming back and I end up going

938
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:59.199
back to two thirty six. But
I had a pleasure driving keys a few

939
01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:03.679
times, a lot of fun with
him Coward driving Chief Guaranty got drist of

940
01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:05.760
soul when he was down there.
He'd call up a couple of times and

941
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:09.199
see if I was working. Was
the other one? I remember the chief?

942
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:15.960
There was another was Chief Ellison,
same last name. That was a

943
01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:21.359
pisser, Allison Ellison to drive to
the quarter one night and a couple of

944
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:25.720
guys on one or seven. They're
like, hey, he says, Chief

945
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:29.960
fellows ands upstairs, he says relative. So I feel I'm also have some

946
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:32.159
fun on my kids. My father, you kid me? I said no,

947
01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:33.920
I said, we try to keep
it quiet, you know. So

948
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:39.119
now we're coming down having dinner,
so I'm like, hey, Dad.

949
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:41.800
They said, uh, what are
you going to be for Christmas this year?

950
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:45.399
He goes, the same thing I
got your last year? Fucking nothing.

951
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:48.279
So that's why I like Mom best. These guys are sitting at a

952
01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:51.319
table going what the hell? I'm
like, you know, I said,

953
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:55.199
because yeah, that's that's why I
like mom best. So she'll take care

954
01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:59.399
of me now, like holy shit
knows And we just cracked up laughing.

955
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:01.720
They're like, what's so funny?
Is it? The first time Adam when

956
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:05.279
I worked here a couple of a
couple of months ago, got my father.

957
01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:13.000
I called the us, going,
dad, can I call you dad?

958
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:16.399
Jimmy Ellison the senior. No no, no, no, no,

959
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:23.840
jim Jimmy wasn't Ellison. He was
Elson el Yeah, I forget Chief Elison's

960
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:26.920
first name. God, but he
was. He was a good guy.

961
01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:29.880
I had a lot of fun with
him. Southern so uh. My friend

962
01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:41.039
Billy Byrne said it was there was
somebody else there too. I remember,

963
01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:45.800
I'm trying to remember who else was
there. But I gotta I gotta say

964
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:46.840
this story when I was chief for
Freeport, when I was running for the

965
01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:50.359
chief, Ray and I talked about
it the other day. He gets the

966
01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:54.319
kick out of it. I'm running
for chief from Freeport in nineteen eighty five,

967
01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:57.960
eighty six. I get the nomination
for my company, which I was

968
01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:01.119
still to death one of the best
compan me to Freeport, shout out the

969
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:08.520
host company one Homeland Nighthawks, great
great guys. Put me in for chief.

970
01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:13.880
So now I'm working for the village
and the superintendent of the public works

971
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:16.760
grants me in the parking lot,
like two weeks before the election. It's

972
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:20.039
always says, hey, you know, I'll say here, you're running the

973
01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:24.119
chief, you know, good luck, congratulations, But just to let you

974
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:27.359
know, he says, if you
win the election, I don't think you're

975
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.319
going to be going to all the
calls. So I hooked, I'm Michael,

976
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:31.760
what are you talking about? He's
love. If you win, you

977
01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:34.279
know you don't have to go to
all the calls. He says, there's

978
01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:36.800
no need for a chief to go
to a dumpster fire or call fire.

979
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:41.560
I expect you to stay, you
know, at work. I said nothing

980
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:43.520
for that, but that's why I'm
running for the chief or to go all

981
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:45.920
the calls. So if a call
kicks in, I'm going. And he

982
01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:50.840
just looked at me. I win
the election. A week and a half

983
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:57.319
later, nonsense call. I pull
out of the DPW. But instead of

984
01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:00.199
going right out, I perfectly going
around past his office. Thank you,

985
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:10.119
sirons wait for even better if you
flip the bird out the window. I

986
01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:12.920
can't believe you did that. Like, I just want to know. I

987
01:11:13.039 --> 01:11:15.960
was responding to the well, maybe
it doesn't know who I am. I'm

988
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:17.359
the guy, I'm the chief.
I don't know if you know who I

989
01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:21.720
am. Guys are like, oh
man, it's like, yeah, funny,

990
01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:26.159
think about fireman. Gods. We
had some other pictures in there,

991
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:28.640
and we have some other a couple. Yeah, you want to go because

992
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:32.239
I have him. What's the funny
thing about fireman bro Day, they're always

993
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:35.920
fine Day, They're always This is
one of his last ones here two thirty

994
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:40.520
six before I have there with two
thirty six. But we have to do

995
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:45.720
the honors here and then pay a
little well, we honestly say he's part

996
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:48.600
of the crew. Bro, you
know what that is forty three years.

997
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:53.159
He's part of the I married up
club. Good for you, good for

998
01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:57.920
you. Got she has technical skills
because when I called him up as like

999
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:02.680
where do I attach this two and
a half? I have no idea?

1000
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:08.359
Yeah, he been like I hear
you, hey, Joe, sign on

1001
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:15.960
to the prop and I'm telling her
what lose tell me just I know,

1002
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:17.800
I know. Oh she was getting
mad at him. I'm like, all

1003
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:20.319
right, don't tell her anymore.
That's it. Don't say anything else.

1004
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:24.720
I'm like, let's let's go go
to the side. And took your phone

1005
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:27.359
up so that at least if we
have the guy, let me tell you

1006
01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:31.800
that's freaking hilarious. Guys. Grogan
Grogan's photo saying force tube is always a

1007
01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:36.560
good location when it comes in for
a photo. Will fourth tube, what's

1008
01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:40.960
that that was? That's a block
over there. Force tube. What's tube?

1009
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:44.000
That's a one way streak going the
other way, but we'll go against

1010
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:49.319
traffic and we come off about good
forty five seconds. It's like this.

1011
01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:56.520
I love taking that going up there. That gave us a good shot to

1012
01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:59.319
beating three thirty two. And every
now and then, wait, we're not

1013
01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:00.920
supposed to do They're supposed to let
them and nift their first, right,

1014
01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:08.920
Yeah you first, you last?
Not first, you last, Ricky,

1015
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:12.159
Bobby, if you could read this, you and now second to uh,

1016
01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:16.840
well, how'd you wind up getting
hurt? Bro? What hap banging my

1017
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:24.119
knee up? You? Yeah?
Yeah, it's you know, surgery finally

1018
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.960
on the my knee torn. Minute
gas and that was it. You had

1019
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:30.279
done. It was seventy five years
old. I mean, what do you

1020
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:41.199
want to close? Keep laughing that
point maybe he broke his episode. And

1021
01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:46.399
yes, look at the nice job
he called his house sup on the ice

1022
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:53.399
banging up against the rig. I
charged one of those seven's tower and oh,

1023
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:55.640
my yead, I guess it wasn't
fully connected all the way. And

1024
01:13:55.680 --> 01:14:00.760
they were screaming at me to shut
them off, running back, and as

1025
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:03.479
I shut the thing off, my
d just into the running board, and

1026
01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:08.399
I'm like that that's gonna even mark
right down next day. You didn't say,

1027
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:16.520
what the fuck? Hey, hey, okay, right ninety guys,

1028
01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:26.520
you know, get out of the
way on the floor. Drive those guys.

1029
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:30.319
We go up to a gas leak
and I'm looking at my rear view

1030
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:32.199
mirror and I got one of the
threes on my real bumper. I'm saying

1031
01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:35.039
to myself, if I have to
stop for the emergency, they're gonna be

1032
01:14:35.039 --> 01:14:39.399
in the holes bed no back.
We get back to the firehouse. So

1033
01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:42.039
that, like, dude, you've
got to pick up the pace a little

1034
01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:44.640
bit. I don't know the streets
around here like I do, you know

1035
01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:46.640
by two thirty six. So I
said, you know what, you go

1036
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:49.600
for us next time, and I'll
follow you. I'll follow you, baby.

1037
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:54.680
Just get me water. That's it. That's it. Get your water.

1038
01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:59.319
That's it. That's it. There
was a picture with like a whole

1039
01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:01.439
team of guys or something something.
We have the group of guys with you.

1040
01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:04.640
We have the X chief I'm sorry, his rookie chief story and if

1041
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:10.199
he wants to share that with who's
that big guy in the middle there,

1042
01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:15.439
Yeah, who's that big guy?
Then the end of the guy guy dragging

1043
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:23.319
his knuckles. Nineteen ninety three.
Man Chiefs is going away for a weekend.

1044
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:26.359
They were a ten and a horn
about gone because we're gonna get a

1045
01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:29.399
norrista. And we told them go
go, go, go enjoy yourselves.

1046
01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:31.439
We got it. The X Chiefs
will take care of the town. You

1047
01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:35.479
guys go have a good, good
fun. They left in the snowstorm Friday

1048
01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:42.159
morning, going up state New York
and the snow hit like unbelievable, and

1049
01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:47.439
myself got the chief, the Hulski
obviously able one knows, big gray Chief

1050
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:54.159
Holner over runner right there, and
uh, Chief Kevin Nole. We'll get

1051
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:58.039
deputies for the weekend. And we
had a blast. We had so many

1052
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:01.560
freaking runs that weekend. It was
all unbelievable. Where was this picture taking

1053
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:04.399
by the firehouse? No, in
the park a lot of the Freequint High

1054
01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:10.560
School. Wow, this looks like
a spot for a picture. Yeah,

1055
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:14.159
everybody got We called Bill Bennett up. He came in took the picture for

1056
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:18.279
us. Bennett, he's Jimmy Graham
saying John bell Navis. Who's John bell

1057
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:24.800
Navis? Oh not a good guy, not a good captain. Yeah,

1058
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:28.720
we had a lot of captains.
I guess first froze up on this one.

1059
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:34.840
Yeah, that was a cold January
and Miller Avenue Freeport. My buddy

1060
01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:40.800
Jerry Festa, we come out and
h we gotta take a picture it if

1061
01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:44.000
you guys iced up, I'm like, yeah, just a little bit fucking

1062
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:45.760
Hey. So when you say before, like ho is one and all that?

1063
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:48.680
Like where where is two eighteen?
He has a two eighteen? Is

1064
01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:53.920
that that's that's the truck company.
They're on Church Street. That's handshakings and

1065
01:16:54.159 --> 01:17:00.800
newberries and Ray McGuire's company engine.
Why didn't I have like such a large

1066
01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:02.039
number on that, you know,
you know what I'm saying, Like if

1067
01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:05.399
you only have five firehouses, why
do they don't have one two, three

1068
01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:10.199
four or something like that? Oh? Someone have like in my place holds

1069
01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:12.760
one. Some of the helmets,
she'll say, hols one. Some have

1070
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:16.720
the county number two one one those
two, and some have two one two.

1071
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:24.079
But some of them have two on
eight or two one seven two one

1072
01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:29.640
seven Za Talaatta used to be the
slorel and that's the county number. Yeah,

1073
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:31.960
the county. No, So you
still live in the duels now I'm

1074
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:40.199
in Delaware. Oh, I've moved
in Delaware and U twenty fifteen a house

1075
01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:44.319
built here in the Middletown, Delaware, half hour south of the Delaware Bridge

1076
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:47.439
and half hour up the Dova Motor
Speedway, right next to this guy.

1077
01:17:47.760 --> 01:18:00.880
Come on, man, come on, man, come on man. There's

1078
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:03.520
a lot of retired guys down there
with you. Yeah, from what Gada,

1079
01:18:04.079 --> 01:18:10.119
I got a lot of Uh So
you got the New York City police

1080
01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:15.479
officer. I got my cousin who's
a free retired Freeport police officer. And

1081
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:18.479
uh, I'm sure there's a bunch
of firemen down here. You know.

1082
01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:25.640
Every once in a while I'll meet
I met some old guy last year in

1083
01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:32.680
the mall that that's when you were
looking in the mirror. Yeah, I

1084
01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:36.720
had a hat on, and he's
talking about them all wrong from the Bronx.

1085
01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:43.199
So what are you doing up?
Didn't we to see you with Syracuse?

1086
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.039
Yeah? What you make the trip
just for Syracuse? Yeah? Well,

1087
01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:48.199
I come up. I got the
Free Pot like twice a month to

1088
01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:51.520
help guys out, like all the
meetings. All right, So I was

1089
01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:54.920
gonna ask you, do you still
see the guys in Free Pot? Yeah?

1090
01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:57.439
I come up and U you know
they go out and have a training.

1091
01:18:57.479 --> 01:19:00.800
I'll go with him and you know, check things out and give them

1092
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:06.199
down. There is a paid down
there, what is it? Uh?

1093
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:13.079
The only paid department in the Delaware
is Wilmington. Everybody else is volunteer.

1094
01:19:13.279 --> 01:19:16.039
Really, but like my town,
Middletown, they have a paid ambul in

1095
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:19.680
store to day, nighttime in store
volleys from six to six. They have

1096
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:23.720
a paid AMBLEMCE. Tell you haven't
stopped at the fire house at all,

1097
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:30.239
just twice in their firehouse. They
their biggest fundraiser is their banquet halls.

1098
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:32.640
I walked into their banquet hall and
you guys a little Long Island o a

1099
01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:36.159
call house. Yeah, I walked
into their banquet hall in Middletown. I

1100
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:40.039
thought I was walking into the call
house. I was like, Wow,

1101
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:43.479
Holy Christ, this is Oh yeah, heause we rent it out. I'm

1102
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:45.199
like, but just a fireman,
Oh no, anybody who wants to rent

1103
01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:48.920
it huh. I'm like, wow, this is freaking O. They pay

1104
01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:53.920
for those new rigs. Bro,
Hey, you know what you gotta do.

1105
01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:57.279
Yeah, you're not taking any runs
in there with them, right?

1106
01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:00.640
Nah? You're not saying they back
in the day is how he's doing.

1107
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:05.079
Should we do it this way.
You're not first, you last. Bro.

1108
01:20:05.600 --> 01:20:15.359
Yeah yeah, oh bro. That's
my little side job I do once

1109
01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:18.359
a once a year down at Dover
Motor Speedway. What do you do?

1110
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:26.640
I worked the gate my good best
friend family Paul Russa, and another X

1111
01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:30.600
chief of my company from Freeport.
He uh, he started working in when

1112
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:34.439
he moved to Delaware when he retired
from the school district, and he handled

1113
01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:36.560
me for a couple of years before
I moved, and I was like,

1114
01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:41.520
Nascar, No, I got no
time for that. Suh. It's great,

1115
01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:44.479
come on down, you know.
He's nah. So as soon as

1116
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:47.359
I moved here in twenty fifteen,
he told me, don't make plans for

1117
01:20:47.439 --> 01:20:50.600
this week in October because you're already
working. I already signed you up to

1118
01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:55.039
work. Oh my god, you
gotta be kidding me. But uh,

1119
01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:59.479
I fell in love with it.
It's uh, he sends A. Retired

1120
01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:02.560
two years go, but I'm still
down there working. We closed the main

1121
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:08.000
gate right by the start finish line, and and I've been there since.

1122
01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:11.039
I said twenty fifteen, we only
have one race a year out the last

1123
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:14.279
couple of years. They took our
second race in October and moved it to

1124
01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:17.479
Nashville because they owned that track.
Was the short track, right, that's

1125
01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:23.359
the short one. Yeah, the
Monster, mile miles the Monster. Do

1126
01:21:23.399 --> 01:21:25.800
you get the drive that they you're
just sitting in it that day. I

1127
01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:30.000
just sat in. But we're working, uh in September October. That was

1128
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:35.520
great. I got the working with
the Rusty Wallace writing experience, and I

1129
01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:39.279
saw working with them there shown us
had to put the harnesses on to get

1130
01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:44.800
people trapped. Trapped, yeah,
strapped in and my last time they're working,

1131
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.239
you know, we're coming up again
on October. There's October sitting there

1132
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:51.239
talking to one of their professional drivers. He happened to be a fireman up

1133
01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:58.119
by Cooperstown. So we sawed shooting
the bowl about fared upon it and different

1134
01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:00.760
things in New York City flared upon
it nine to eleven and if one thing

1135
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:03.039
led to the nixt he finds it
to me because you've been working with us

1136
01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:06.840
for three years. But this Rusty
Wallace, he says. As Jennifer River

1137
01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:12.279
said anything too about hopping in the
car and getting the ride along, I

1138
01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:15.199
was like, no, is Well
broad stays, you're lucky day, go

1139
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:17.600
go suit up, grab a helmet. When I get done with this guy.

1140
01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:21.479
I'm taking you for six laps.
You know what. They asked me

1141
01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:27.399
twice boom, get up. He
got in like gott in the car.

1142
01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:31.479
They strapped me in one hundred and
fifty miles an hour. It was like

1143
01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:35.439
freaking awesome. I got videos.
I did the first lap and a half.

1144
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:39.399
Hold my phone video that I find
it. They held it. I

1145
01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:43.800
had to hold on, but I
made turn three. I could have stuck

1146
01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:45.840
my hand out and touched the wall. That's all close. We came to

1147
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:49.359
the wall. It was rocking experience. She just said, yeah, but

1148
01:22:49.479 --> 01:22:58.079
it's how we do it. In
ninety's coming up on the left. Us

1149
01:22:58.199 --> 01:23:03.600
hold on a minute, what get
used to do you get used to that?

1150
01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:08.479
Like by the fifth time, do
you feel like like I can't imagine

1151
01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:10.479
I do seventy miles an hour?
Eighty miles an hour, right, I

1152
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:13.039
feel like that's fast. You could
tell like, what is it like to

1153
01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:16.680
do one hundred and fifty like it? I tell you, I thought I

1154
01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:19.479
was gonna be a little close to
fall book at first getting in that car,

1155
01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:24.600
and you know, yeah, but
it was like you're just driving.

1156
01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:28.880
You know, it's weird, but
it felt great. It's like, you

1157
01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:31.199
know, and he goes, I
would love to go a little bit faster,

1158
01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:33.520
but you know, he says,
they got the drive in a set

1159
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:36.520
and you know, I could have
hit the switch, but he goes,

1160
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:40.239
goff had been a hit the switch
and I would have gotten an accident.

1161
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:43.920
You in the car. I got
a job, Liabel. Right, Yeah,

1162
01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:46.039
what how fast is that? How
fast did they go? When are

1163
01:23:46.039 --> 01:23:48.399
they going two hundred one eighty?
Where did they go? I think they

1164
01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:56.600
usually around one eighty? Yeah?
Yeah, don't you a mile track allegedly?

1165
01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:01.920
Yeah, talladega, I think that
they're probably hitting cloth to two track.

1166
01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:04.439
How is it like when he's going
into the like, so you get

1167
01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:08.359
the straight away over there. It's
really not much of a straight away,

1168
01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:10.520
right you just yeah, mile track
it so you know, I mean he

1169
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:13.640
floors it like then he you know, you hear him come off and we're

1170
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:16.960
probably doing the turns probably one hundred. So he comes off, then he

1171
01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:20.680
and right back and wraps it back
up, then comes down, revs up,

1172
01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:25.319
comes down. So you're doing that
during during the course of a race.

1173
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:29.680
How many times freaking doing that?
Right? It's crazy? Oh my

1174
01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:34.119
god? One hundred miles. So
the race. Yeah, and then imagine

1175
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:36.640
happened like other cars you were you
were all alone on on the track,

1176
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:41.319
right obviously, No, there's there's
people who will pay the drive. We

1177
01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:44.359
were passing them like they were standing
still. Get a couple of them,

1178
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:54.880
you know, that's dangerous, you
know about passing on Holy Christ, you

1179
01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:58.560
know, but that's pretty wild man. And then well, yeah, we

1180
01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:00.880
had one guy hit the wall.
One of the guys were driving just before

1181
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:03.479
that. He was complaining that the
call was going fast enough for him,

1182
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:08.000
and they're like, yeah, it's
it's gone, you know, so what

1183
01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:12.520
and he takes off and two laps
ladies from Star Turn three hit the wall

1184
01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:19.319
and I was I was doing my
health cats two hundred. Don's gonna find

1185
01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:23.159
out when he comes. We go, let's go, we go, Moses

1186
01:25:23.279 --> 01:25:27.319
bro Well going out on the Robert
Moses will be doing two hundred. I

1187
01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:31.000
mean, all right, I got
okay, I got one last one for

1188
01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:33.279
you. Here. Share a little
story with this guy while we're talking about

1189
01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:40.399
the track stuff. There you go. Joey LOGANOA, yeah, yeah,

1190
01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:44.000
you once you saw it working east. When I first started there, I

1191
01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:46.800
didn't know anybody. I'm like,
who's that guy? Who's that guy?

1192
01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:51.600
Now? Being the essence sevent eight
years now, you recognize who they are,

1193
01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:55.079
you know. So they're walking around, you see him, You're like,

1194
01:25:55.159 --> 01:25:57.760
hey, you know, he was
standing behind me. I was doing

1195
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:00.560
something. I turned around. I'm
like, hey, Sully again, how

1196
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:03.760
about a photo? He goes go
for a pal. What what are you

1197
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:09.279
actually doing there, Jules? What
are you actually working? Right at the

1198
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:13.199
start finish line, there's a there's
a big gate that we have to close.

1199
01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:15.520
They can't start the racings. So
the gate is closed and the officials

1200
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:20.319
come out. We have to tie
it shut. What all the big cuts

1201
01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:23.880
and stuff, kind of like the
Bronx tail seat. Now you just can't

1202
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:29.000
leave. You can't from the dome. We have a lift. My son

1203
01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:32.680
works to lift the street guys up
the lift to do the top ties and

1204
01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:35.680
then they get paid eighty two dollars
an hour to put zip ties on the

1205
01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:45.600
fence. Yeah I wish it was. Yeah, it's pretty cool. You're

1206
01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:46.760
not doing that for the money man, You're just looking to be that right,

1207
01:26:47.199 --> 01:26:51.600
That's it. I love experience.
Good for you. There's no better

1208
01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:54.920
run. You can get a KNA
card. There's no better rush. Though,

1209
01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:57.520
when you used to show for two
thirty six, right, bro,

1210
01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:00.520
I mean, come on, I
missed that the most. Tell me about

1211
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:02.840
it. Yeah you know, yeah, that was a lot of fun.

1212
01:27:03.039 --> 01:27:05.520
Let me tell you. Let me
ask you. A lot of guys say

1213
01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:09.319
the same thing. I talked to
a lot of the Tide guy. Do

1214
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:11.520
you have dreams that you get a
run and you can't find your bunk?

1215
01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:16.239
Agear? Do you No, I
don't have dreams. Not holy shit,

1216
01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:19.760
I must talk. I'm gonna say
about seventy five percent of guys have the

1217
01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:23.920
same dream that I have, that
you get a run and you can't find

1218
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:28.079
your bunk again, you can't find
put it on. Not too long ago,

1219
01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:30.960
one of my buddies said the same
thing he did. I heard him

1220
01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:33.239
somewhere. I couldn't remember who heard
it or where it came up, but

1221
01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:35.720
now you reminded me. But yeah, it was he had the same,

1222
01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:40.359
very similar dream dreaming. I talked
a lot of tie guys and they say

1223
01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:42.560
the same ship. The bells go
off and they go to put the button,

1224
01:27:42.600 --> 01:27:45.920
they can't find it. I don't
know what that means, gonzo,

1225
01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:49.279
could you look that up. I'll
work on a Fini show. Good answer.

1226
01:27:51.119 --> 01:27:57.199
I'm gonna on you good answer.
I like my first night tool.

1227
01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:00.279
I'm two twenty four, my first
night tool working. The captain tell the

1228
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:02.119
see you guy, Hey says,
keep an eye on jewels if we get

1229
01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:05.880
something in the middle of night.
You know. He gets up looking at

1230
01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:09.319
the captain hooks. What to worry
about be getting up? I've been doing

1231
01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:16.039
this for sixteen years already laughing.
I said, yeah, I'll be up

1232
01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:19.159
with the tones. You know what, I've never asked this question, Roofie,

1233
01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:26.199
have you ever slept to a run? Never? I only I missed

1234
01:28:26.279 --> 01:28:32.239
I quote unquote mister run uh in
one seventeen they had the radio blasting and

1235
01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:35.840
all the guys were in the kitchen, probably allegedly doing what they were doing.

1236
01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:40.640
And I was sitting in in the
TV room, but like right every

1237
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:43.720
little lights were on. It was
it was like seven or eight o'clock.

1238
01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:46.359
They were cooking dinner. And the
beeble went off and the guys didn't grabbed

1239
01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:49.600
me like I think they did it
just to break my balls. Like I

1240
01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:54.479
came back, but it was like
a pull box or something. But that's

1241
01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:56.680
the only run I ever missed.
What about you, Jewels? Wow,

1242
01:28:56.720 --> 01:29:00.359
I missed one. We just came
back, came back from him at two

1243
01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:04.359
thirty six, well quarter to five
in the morning. I went back up

1244
01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:09.720
to the bunk them when I must
have been out like a light. They

1245
01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:13.880
said ten minutes later they had the
run and they I didn't hear nothing.

1246
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:16.079
I heard him when the door opened. Coming back in, I was like,

1247
01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:20.840
holy shit, slide the poll.
I like, thanks for joining us.

1248
01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:26.880
I mean I have had runs where
I was in bed, but the

1249
01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:29.840
guys would come grab me, you
know what I mean, Like, I

1250
01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:31.279
mean I could have possibly missed a
run, but they never when you were

1251
01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:33.399
in an office. I mean yeah, when I was officer, like,

1252
01:29:33.439 --> 01:29:35.760
guys would come up, you know, I'd hear it on the bitch box,

1253
01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:39.920
you know, like they rough,
we gotta run, you know,

1254
01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:45.319
something like that, you know coming
down. Yeah, actually, well it

1255
01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:47.520
was one of those. It slept
through. Partial of it where dispatched.

1256
01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:50.079
When the phone rings in the middle
of the night, you know something's not

1257
01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:53.720
right. So we had one when
I was captain. I was like,

1258
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:55.840
oh, some of a bitch,
where is it? You know, of

1259
01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:58.800
course you would panic mode because you're
already two or three minutes behind the a

1260
01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:02.319
balla. I never missed the run. But I gotta say the only time

1261
01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:09.479
I ever to the lieutenant, I
was driving Lieutenant Todeshi sprained his ankle or

1262
01:30:09.520 --> 01:30:13.520
broke his ankle on a run,
so I was acting officer. And don't

1263
01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:15.560
you know it, we have one
run and a fucking guy misses the run.

1264
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:25.720
Yeah, I'm not gonna say his
names. One job I had that

1265
01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:29.600
two twenty four and I was lieutenant
got hurt and I was four years on

1266
01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:32.199
the job and I was a senior
guy. But like you let the sea,

1267
01:30:32.239 --> 01:30:36.960
the fanning comes in until you know
another boss comes in. I'm praying,

1268
01:30:38.039 --> 01:30:41.720
Oh my gosh, just give me
something you know about an allie.

1269
01:30:41.880 --> 01:30:44.880
We get a call far in the
b que. I jumped in the front

1270
01:30:44.920 --> 01:30:47.720
seat, Dan Taney, the chauffeur. He looked at me, big smiles,

1271
01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:50.319
physic because you've been waiting for this
all day. Yeah, I did

1272
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:59.680
you fucking know it? I see, let's go shrill. I do have

1273
01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:01.279
one last photoph you guys, when
I know I mentioned I brought up at

1274
01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:03.560
the beginning, I don't know if
you wanted to touch on it one last

1275
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:05.960
time. I know we talked about
brig Ray. I don't know none of

1276
01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:09.079
those guys, so I don't know
if he gragged me into that photo.

1277
01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:15.479
That is soccer you really Roughie Ray
Ray Okay, Le's gonna say Ray McCormick,

1278
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:24.720
McGuire, Clett and the other guy
I think is the chief from whereas

1279
01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:28.760
for Baltimore maybe Yeah, I don't
know those two guys next to Ray Roughy.

1280
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:32.079
We just saw him in Uh he
was with soccer is a pistol.

1281
01:31:32.199 --> 01:31:39.600
He's going to his seminars. Yeah, he's good dude. Man Oh soccer.

1282
01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:45.640
Yeah, they're gonna have one out
in Seldon and h m hm September

1283
01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:51.079
ninth. What's that simular out in
Seldon Fire Department? It's going to be

1284
01:31:51.479 --> 01:32:00.279
Norman Soccer and Richardson. Have you
hit his? H We just uh,

1285
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:04.880
we just drafted the Norman for a
show on Stampipes, right Roff, Yes,

1286
01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:09.239
I got a clomb as a matter
of fa yep, yeah, saw

1287
01:32:09.319 --> 01:32:13.640
him saw him and Saracuse real quick, great guy. Yeah, Yeah,

1288
01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:16.560
a little controversy around uh some stuff
we were talking about, right roof.

1289
01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:20.520
But the Stampipes, Yeah, I
like contropresy, do you the Stampiper never

1290
01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:26.399
introduced? What was that? Where's
the picture of the two thirty six guys?

1291
01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:29.800
Gon. I only uh, the
ones that we had a picture.

1292
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:31.640
No, the other ones that I
have, well, the ones supping in

1293
01:32:31.680 --> 01:32:34.720
the email, the two maybe I
didn't send that picture, and then the

1294
01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:41.520
other ones like all right, so
that's that's I stalked less Facebook. Pick

1295
01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:45.199
where are all those classic cars that
you have pictures of you go to car

1296
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:46.399
shows? Is that what that?
Those cars? Yeah? All down by

1297
01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:50.439
me since I've been here in Delaware. It's like once the spring hits sometime,

1298
01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:55.720
it's like every other weekend. And
some of them it's the same same

1299
01:32:55.800 --> 01:33:01.039
people, same cause, right,
But the city of an all excuse me,

1300
01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:08.279
do you have any old cause yourself
what it needs? Like? Yeah,

1301
01:33:09.399 --> 01:33:16.359
I got and all the firehouses down
in Delaware. I've been to a

1302
01:33:16.439 --> 01:33:25.239
couple for different things, and they
all have one bay aside for a classic

1303
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:29.000
rope around for one of the classic
fireman. It's one of their old old

1304
01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:32.239
time pieces either hand hand held.
It's like wow. And then they got

1305
01:33:32.279 --> 01:33:35.600
their own little private little room for
it. That's pretty cool. Well,

1306
01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:38.560
you can do that when you have, you know, when you don't pay

1307
01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:43.079
that much for a property. Do
you know what I'm saying. I was

1308
01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:47.720
just gonna misside taxes in New York
you do right? Oh yeah, and

1309
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:51.159
no sales tax that kills me.
No sales tax, you know? On

1310
01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:56.199
man, come on man, you
did you? Come on, man,

1311
01:33:56.399 --> 01:34:00.439
come on man, come on?
Oh on that what did potty lee?

1312
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:04.279
Right? I missed that? What
did Yeah? I was before? What

1313
01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:11.960
was it? Scary? It was
scary? Way we came down street over

1314
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:15.800
the Nash says you, I want
to hit your garbage cans. I was

1315
01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:24.279
aiming for him brout people with garbage
cans. And I have somebody sent me

1316
01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:28.199
this a little bit on the squad
today delivered a couple of babies. Yeah,

1317
01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:30.840
I saw it at this morning on
Facebook. Yeah. Wow, nice.

1318
01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:34.039
You know it's not Father's Day.
Actually, I don't think I know.

1319
01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:38.840
I don't think I know one of
those guys there. Oh but Dane

1320
01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:43.600
is Jamain? You got bones?
Where's he's on the left, all the

1321
01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:49.399
way left? That's Dane McCoy.
You got what? So I forgot another

1322
01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:51.840
guy? Yess? I know that
I see him up close enough to uh,

1323
01:34:53.039 --> 01:34:55.239
I could probably pull him up on
the phone a little bit better.

1324
01:34:55.520 --> 01:35:00.039
Oh wow, good job, brothers. Is a matter of fact, you

1325
01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:01.680
have the twenty five year Every year
you're coming up right roof in July,

1326
01:35:02.359 --> 01:35:08.840
it is yes, you go back
to two three? You know anybody actually

1327
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:13.640
we have the twenty no right now? Probably now that's crazy. I mean

1328
01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:16.279
I got this couple of Freeport guys
now in two thirty six we got a

1329
01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:25.119
breakfast and on the twenty third this
week, uh and Seaford huh post thing.

1330
01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:29.079
I think they got like forty five
guys going, I'm gonna go down

1331
01:35:29.520 --> 01:35:33.079
nice. Nice. You gotta have
the five stories before we get to the

1332
01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:39.640
old Joels. Anybody else you wanted
to talk about anything? Are you?

1333
01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:44.880
You're totally out of the fire service? Then totally up for the most yeah

1334
01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:47.399
not yeah, no doing all of
that stuff. You just come to hang

1335
01:35:47.479 --> 01:35:50.640
out with those salty dog guys to
get in salty guys. Why don't you

1336
01:35:50.720 --> 01:35:55.239
teach? Why don't you do any
of that stuff? I don't know.

1337
01:35:55.479 --> 01:36:00.119
I've kicked it around a few times. You did it back in night you

1338
01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:09.800
too. Look at that guy looking
at that when it was brown labor saving

1339
01:36:14.159 --> 01:36:20.439
yummy? But now what do you
have to lunch? She was hold on

1340
01:36:20.560 --> 01:36:27.720
it. It's a linguini with what
to climb myself? A beautiful thing.

1341
01:36:28.119 --> 01:36:30.880
Let's now look at it. Look
at it, Look at it. Wow,

1342
01:36:30.439 --> 01:36:40.279
have a damn. I'm gonna damn. He is due. He is,

1343
01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:45.279
look at him laughing at himself as
well. Man, how can this

1344
01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:48.680
should not be funny? You gotta
us it's funny. It is funny.

1345
01:36:49.039 --> 01:36:54.840
It's funny, all fun it's good
stuff, all right. So let's get

1346
01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:56.720
to the old school tip of the
day. Hold on a minute. We

1347
01:36:56.720 --> 01:36:59.640
gotta tea him up. Are you
ready, Jewels, you got your hold

1348
01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:01.840
on? Wait, wait, we
gotta we gotta do it properly. You're

1349
01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:06.960
ready, guns, I'm ready.
Hold on, It's time for little too

1350
01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:17.159
tip day day out there. Dump
the tank. You don't need hydrate water.

1351
01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:20.640
You can dump the tank, fire
from the gallons, put a lot

1352
01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:26.319
of fire out before you get water
from the hydrant. Plain and simple.

1353
01:37:26.439 --> 01:37:30.560
We gotta dumped the tank. Makeup. Make sure they know they're on if

1354
01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:35.039
you tell you you got tank water, if you dump the box, dumped

1355
01:37:35.079 --> 01:37:38.800
the tank tank, That's what I'm
saying. And then just let them know

1356
01:37:38.840 --> 01:37:42.720
when they're on hydrant. You're here. I'm gonna add Can I add something

1357
01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:45.439
that jewels sure, something that I
used to do once I dumped the tank

1358
01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:48.560
and get a hydro water. I
just pull that fucking day, and I

1359
01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:51.600
make sure I feel the tank backed. Application lose it. That's it,

1360
01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:55.560
fle tank cat forbid. You lose
the hydrant. You still got five on

1361
01:37:55.720 --> 01:38:00.319
the gallons to get your brothers out. Excellent day. You you something good

1362
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:03.680
that was on Garrow's big thing.
Can you remember that? Cools? Yeah,

1363
01:38:04.439 --> 01:38:10.159
got into a locks on the pickture
table three in the morning. I

1364
01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:14.039
think he was just testing. I'd
be said that at three o'clock in the

1365
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:18.199
one like this, every every bucket, every lock you could have locked,

1366
01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:21.520
you would never see. Right,
he had him in a five gallon pail

1367
01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:25.560
and you have to tell him all
about it and how you get it or

1368
01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:30.199
how hundred or at least yeah,
right, And I think he used to

1369
01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:33.439
call the drill a three o'clock in
the morning on purpose. Chief Daily said

1370
01:38:33.439 --> 01:38:35.760
the same thing. Remember to refill
the tank in case you lose the water.

1371
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:46.960
Yeah, amens. I love engine
guys, great job, excellent and

1372
01:38:47.079 --> 01:38:53.000
two thirty six guys, that's what
he loves. I tell you. I

1373
01:38:53.119 --> 01:38:55.520
see, I knew it was good
right now. Thirty six would have been

1374
01:38:55.600 --> 01:38:59.359
my spot, would have been my
spot if I had a choice, would

1375
01:38:59.399 --> 01:39:00.920
love to have you too. Oh
man, let me tell you, we

1376
01:39:00.960 --> 01:39:04.800
would have had fun. Could have
went there from Phobe School. But hey,

1377
01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:08.079
you got there. That's all that
mattered. That's it. Happy to

1378
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:11.680
get there. Yeah, I loved
every minute of it. They still don't

1379
01:39:11.680 --> 01:39:16.000
work over there. You know.
I stopped by there about two three years

1380
01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:20.399
ago. I stopped in there and
the first cable turns the rig and looks

1381
01:39:20.439 --> 01:39:23.159
around. He looks at me,
and I'm like, I used to work

1382
01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:28.680
here. No idea who this guy
was. I was just senior guy.

1383
01:39:28.760 --> 01:39:33.760
He was like, who's this ald
timer in here? Bantom? So let

1384
01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:36.399
me go into y'all stop the fire
something that. I'm like, hope the

1385
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:41.960
combinations are saying, any hippies moving
in over there? What's that? Any

1386
01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:44.399
hippies moving in over there? By
two thirty six, I don't know.

1387
01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:46.680
There doing a lot of building go
around there, right, there was a

1388
01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:49.600
lot of There was a lot of
lots over by that area. Oh yeah.

1389
01:39:49.760 --> 01:39:53.960
Across the street now and down with
the stores, you know, the

1390
01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:57.319
deep on them on and I got
more stores. I'm like, oh when

1391
01:39:57.399 --> 01:40:00.960
they put this stuff up? Yeah
crazy. I know. Every once a

1392
01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:02.760
while coming in if I get stuck
in traffic. I'll get off at Pennsylvania

1393
01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:06.119
and take the back the weeks in
New York and then go back onto the

1394
01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:10.319
conduit to get back on the belt. And I'm like, wow, where

1395
01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:14.319
did this come from? Yeah?
Do you believe they built buildings on those

1396
01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:17.000
two lots on Sheffield and Lavonia?
Can you imagine that? I know,

1397
01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:20.800
like big buildings, like who the
heck is gonna? I don't know.

1398
01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:25.680
I retired. I was there on
the roster one night. I decided to

1399
01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:29.760
go over there for the truck and
the little kid comes back to the back

1400
01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:33.520
window. Hello mister firemans in the
window and going, what the hell?

1401
01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:39.079
They built the places right behind you, right right behind but the lot behind

1402
01:40:39.119 --> 01:40:42.600
the firehouse next to there was two
lots to the firehouse, and across the

1403
01:40:42.680 --> 01:40:48.840
street they built they built a big
building next to the track. There's a

1404
01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:55.359
vacant neighborhood. Yeah, yep,
much wanted to be made now. All

1405
01:40:55.439 --> 01:40:57.479
right, So we got, like
I said before, we got Frank Lee

1406
01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:01.479
coming on Thursday night. You got
questions met him? Just met him in

1407
01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:09.319
Syracuse Coop's podcast at gmail dot com. Or you know, if you want

1408
01:41:09.319 --> 01:41:12.760
to buck up a few bucks on
Thursday night, you got something important to

1409
01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:18.840
say. Say it? Yeah you
shout outs rough, Nope nothing yeah guns.

1410
01:41:19.199 --> 01:41:21.439
No, I'm just happy, belated
fora Thursday. To all the pops

1411
01:41:21.439 --> 01:41:26.479
out there, excellent, Hope,
thanks for coming on the show. Bro.

1412
01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:29.520
We really finally got him. We
got him. Thank you, guys.

1413
01:41:29.600 --> 01:41:32.000
I really appreciate it. I was
shocked when Louke grabbed me. I

1414
01:41:32.159 --> 01:41:35.119
was like me, you gotta go
grab you. It depends on where we

1415
01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:41.520
grab you. If you yeah,
well I will ever see a horsepit me

1416
01:41:41.560 --> 01:41:49.279
over. I was shocked. Oh
all right, don thank you, Jules.

1417
01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:54.560
We will see you Thursday night.
Until then, stay low and go

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01:41:55.399 --> 01:41:57.319
all right, everybody, we'll see
it the big one. Al Right,

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01:41:57.359 --> 01:41:58.079
guys, have a good night.