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Weird things happened in the backyard of
weird weird weird. Wow. Yo,

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was that too much? I know, I was, Keep going, man,

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keep going. Yeah, we are
super duper ultra pumped today. Our

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guest is someone who I mean I
can speak for Ryan, I think here

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and myself. Please do this.
This guest has blown our minds on so

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many occasions it's probably it's too many
to count. Um. This this is

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somebody who is is deep into the
mystical side of life, energy work,

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astrology, witchy cool stuff. Uh. And she is also an awmy.

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She's a long time amy of the
show. One of the very first in

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our discord. Oh yeah, one
of the very first, like og og

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like super og. So everybody from
wherever you're viewing this, give a round

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of applause to Rosecords show Rose.
We're so excited. Oh me too.

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Thank you for having me on.
Oh can't wait, it is it is

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our pleasure. And I wanted to
to start with like a little story.

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Uh so when when you first joined
our discord, uh, I quickly noticed

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a lot of astrology talk, which, like I mean, honestly, back

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when you first joined the discord,
I was like not not super scrubbed up

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on my astrology like whatsoever. Uh, but uh, you know, my

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my wife is into it. So
we did my chart, and then I

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think I did one with Ryan.
I'm pretty sure we we did like a

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chart together and it was just kind
of like a like an entry level basic

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sort of chart. But then but
then you put a message in the discord

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and said, like, does anybody
want me to do their astrology? And

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I was like, uh, yeah, I want my astrology done by somebody

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who actually knows like how to do
it. And you did it, and

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it was so comprehensive. It was
shocking how much it resonated with me,

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like like every single subcategory, every
section, every placement, like what you

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wrote about. And we hadn't really
talked very much at this point, you

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know, we didn't know each other
uh super well, but I mean it

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was like it was like you were
inside of my head and you like you

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saw my entire my entire life and
wrote about it. So I'm gonna get

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into actually some notes that I took, yes, yeah, when you when

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you sent me that, But first
I would love to ask, um,

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how did you get into uh this
this kind of stuff, not just astrology?

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But the energy work and everything else
as well. Yeah, first of

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all, I'm so happy to hear
all of that. And really, for

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me, I was a really lucky
kid because I grew up in an environment

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with my mom where this was always
kind of floating around, specifically like energy

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work and just belief in the other
you know, that there's more to life

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than what meets the eye. And
you know, we would be tucked into

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bed at night, my mom would, you know, teach us, Okay,

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now, envision yourself being enveloped in
white light and say this prayer,

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you know, and we would go, you know, white light surrounds us,

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protects us from harm, and we
just like repeat that mantra as little

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kids. So whoa that. Yeah, super lucky to not have to have

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religious programming that kind of cuts people
off from that. So it kind of

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makes it a little easier for me
to kind of naturally be inclined to these

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types of studies. Yeah, you
know, me and my sister we'd make,

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you know, offerings to fairies in
the woods, like smashing up mushrooms

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and making little pies for them.
Things like that. Oh so cool.

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Yeah, it's always just been super
encouraged and I did go through a period

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of time where you know, I
had like an atheist, you know,

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angsty period in my young teeth.
But it always comes back and it happens.

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Yeah yeah, who we all go
there, We've all had that.

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Unfortunately never or fortunately never went there, but yeah it happens. Yeah I

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went there. Yeah, yeah,
Yeah. It gets real edgy and you

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feel like you know everything and then
you find out you know nothing. Yeah

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yeah, right, yeah. I
just you know, over time, you

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know, I've I've slowly developed my
own practice. You know, I don't

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have certifications in astrology. It's just
kind of like a hobby of mine,

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and a lot of it just relies
on my intuition. I do have some

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formal schooling from the Boulder Psychic Psychic
Institute. Shout up, EPI. I've

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never heard of this. Yeah,
they're fantastic. Too early. But um,

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now now that you know Dad's book
is out, he's been um,

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he just got back from a con
a few days ago, and there's some

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center out of Boulder that specifically has
requested for me and Dad to head out

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that way. They want us to
do do some sort of book signing type

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deal in Boulder, and my Dad's
trying to negotiate it for like me,

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my mom, my wife and I
to go. So definitely, you know,

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have to coordinate on that. But
you you're in Ian, you will

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find me. Okay, to happen
a little bit, you will find me.

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Yeah, I've been. I'm down
in Denver, but I have you

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know, it's very easy. It's
like a thirty minute drive to both.

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So if I end up, we'll
definitely let you know. My wife is

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looking you up today to like get
all your information to send you stuff.

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And she's like, oh my god, she's so cute. You too,

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Jenny. I saw her follow me
on Instagram and I followed her back.

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I was like, this is the
best. Oh my god. So so

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what's the deal with BP I've I've
never heard of this before. Yeah,

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they're a psychic institute. It's run
by a woman called Mila mac and they

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do energy training, UM and psychic
training, and it's in all different kinds

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of levels, from entry level all
the way up to you know, trans

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mediumship where you're actually out of your
body doing um, you know, energy

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work in all different realms. So
I haven't gotten that far into their programming,

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but many of my friends have and
it's actually connected with me with a

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lot of my very close friends.
And it's a funny story because before I

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moved out here, I still live
in New Hampshire and right the month before

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I moved to Denver, I went
to a drum circle in Salem, Massachusetts.

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And yes, that sounds awesome,
it really was. It was so

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like, kay, okay, I
gotta hear this story. What was that?

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Like? Oh beautiful. We were
in this green area right off the

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bay and this woman facilitating it had
these people kind of drawing circles around us

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in the in the dirt with sticks
while she kind of helped space and started

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saying these prayers and then she would
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of us and give us a message
and um, for me, she was

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like, you will find your people
with this move, like this will magnetize

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all of the people that you need
to find to you. And that has

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literally been what has happened. And
then it couldn't be more grateful for that.

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Wow, Wow, that's so cool, super cool. That reminds me

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of that. Remember have you seen
colorad of Space? I don't think so.

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You remember that? Ryan? You
know what? You know what I'm

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talking about which part you have to
part towards the beginning where the girl she's

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like drying, yeah, and that's
when she meets the guy he like walks,

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Yeah, exactly, the water plant
or whatever. It reminds me of

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that. I feel like that would
be such a singular experience, like you

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can't you can't get that experience anywhere
else. That sounds so epic. Yeah,

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so quick little side tangent Um Colonel
John By Alexander, who's the like

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he's actually you know, involved with
the Monroe Institute. Probably similar. I

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don't know if it's I have a
ben to Monroe yet, but I'm sure

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it's like a similar concept to BPI. But the first time he ever came

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to our house, just in like
an investigative capacity, he um, he

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showed us these personal videos on his
like flash drive, and they were things

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of him and his wife traveling the
world, going on these bizarre esoteric adventures,

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like hiking one hundred miles on horseback
deep into the forest of Mongolia to

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meet like this very tiny exclusive reindeer
shaman tribe and like oh, like you

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know, uh, spectate some of
their secretive rituals and like, oh,

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it's like I saw the videos sid. Another one that he showed us that

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reminds me of what you just said
was he also did kind of like a

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tour in Africa, like just going
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And he actually showed me this on
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this is not like he told me
about this. Like I saw this

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and it was a drum circle.
I can't remember what country it was,

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but it was definitely an indigenous tribe
and they had the look, I'm a

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drummer. I've been playing drums for
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point on the spot, like fourteen
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never heard anything like this. The
way that their drums were. They were

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these natural, you know, like
animal skin, like really natural indigenous drums,

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and they had this precise rhythmic.
It was like, if I could

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explain it without sounding like a bunch
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and they had this pattern where they
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and then they would create like inflection
in it was like do do do do?

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Like going up and down, up
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rhythmic that it like actually got them. He was explaining this to us as

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we're watching the video. It got
them all in a trance. And these

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there were these shaman type people who
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Again I saw this. They would
take fire and torches in their hand and

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they would put it on their mouth
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over their skin. Then it wouldn't
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high focus date. And it's like
there's some weird, really are but awesome

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stuff that goes on around the world
that your typical nine to five person has

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no clue about. And one of
those things is drum circles and they're badass.

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That's incredible, and it just speaks
to the power of the like vibration

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and sound in general. I'm totally
about that. I have my little tongue

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drum right here that duo it on
all day long, just as therapy.

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Yeah, and that's that's incredible.
It does not surprise me. I fully

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believe that. Where did you hear
hear about this or see this? Ryan

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Um John Alexander, he personally was
there recording it and he showed us the

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video. Oh whoa, yeah,
and he has a website where he documents

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a lot of this stuff and anyway, you know, it's just it reminded

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me of that when you brought up
the universal drum knowledge. Yeah. Yeah,

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there's so many cultures that do that
too, and uh, the majority

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of them if you read the texts, it's about like reaching a heightened state

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of like like a higher spiritual state. Yeah, it's so sick. But

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um, okay, I want to
talk about astrology for a sect because you

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completely melted my brain. And when
you did my chart, like seriously,

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and before you dive into that,
I just want to say she did mind

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too, and it was equally mind
blowing. I just didn't take the notes.

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So I'm confirming. I'm confirming that
Nick is not over exaggerating here.

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She like she did mind too.
But but not only not only was it

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the like the way that I resonated
with my specific chart, it was also

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the way that you so eloquently kind
of explained astrology as a concept. Like

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you said, this one thing that
was so so cool and I've never forgotten

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it and every time somebody asked me, this is what I tell them.

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So you said, this was an
analogy that you used for like your sun

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sign, your rising, and your
moon. You probably know what I'm talking

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about. Uh, you said that
the sun, your sun sign is your

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base. Imagine your astrology chart as
a painting. Your your sun sign is

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the base, like the base coat. Your rising would be your top coat,

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and then your moon is the colors
that you choose to paint with.

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H That that stuck. Like as
soon as I've heard that, I was

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like, oh my god, do
you do you mind kind of explaining a

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little bit deeper what you mean by
that? Sure, yeah, and you

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know, not every astrologer may agree, but that is definitely how I connect

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to astrology where it is. You
know, you can look at any individual

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placement. You know, so many
people and pop astrology focuses on the sun

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sign, but that is such a
small sliver of who you are and what

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your chart says. You know,
your chart is your map for what you

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set out to do and be in
this life. So when you're thinking about

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it, kind of like those layers, you can kind of see what elements

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affect different parts of yourself and how
you know, you know, my aries

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rising is different than somebody's aries son, and how everything kind of comes together

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to be its own unique composition of
you. Yeah, I feel like that

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is like the common thing when when
people think about astrology, it's like,

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oh, you're a you're a Gemini, so that means that you're two faced.

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And I also hear a lot of
people kind of trying to use that

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sentiment to debunk astrology, like oh, well, my friend is a Gemini

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and he's completely different than you know, my other friend or whatever. But

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what you're explaining is it's like it's
almost like it's almost like your son's sign

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is like a mold or like a
template or something like a container for everything

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else to kind of see, how
do you do that? How do you

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do that? Like you're good with
the analogies, like you're with the analogies

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because I don't know. To me, I I relate with analogies. If

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somebody breaks something down to me in
an analogy, like that's really the only

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way I'm going to absorb it.
And you know who else, uh is

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very good at that episode came out
today Amy watching it before joining. She's

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just incredible. Shout out to her. She but you two remind me so

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much of each other because of that, and that's one of the reasons I

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was so excited to have you on
because like the eloquence, you know what

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I mean, that's a huge compliment. Shout out. He's truly truly amazing.

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This episode will come out like many
space between that. But just so

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people aren't confused, the day that
we're recording, this is the day that

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Amy's episode came out, Right,
another serendipitous synchronicity. Come on, now,

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we're really doing some magic here,
y'all. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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we do. That's what we do. What we can we take ding.

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I'm a blow through a couple more
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just so that people can can realize
how completely astounding this is. Um.

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Okay, So with with my Virgo, which was my moon, um,

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the you you kind of explained intellectuality
methodical, um, but because my Virgo

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moon was in the eleventh house,
it's focused on friendship, being a community

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organizer, which like that is insane, and a delegator, And honestly,

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the delegator thing I really resonate with
because I love telling Alex what to do.

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I really, I really, I
really really loved it. Doesn't mean

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that's completely completely true. Um.
And another thing, so actually, uh,

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something I want to go into real
quick is UM something that I learned

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from you is about conjunction? Mm
hmm. Would you would you mind kind

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of giving a brief explanation on what
conjunctions are in a chart and what they

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might do or what they might mean
for your chart. Yeah. So,

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and again I'm not certified in astrology, but from my understanding your you're on,

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we got readings from you that here
it comes Norwach that's you're onto something

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the certified. Yeah. Yeah,
So a conjunction is when two celestial bodies

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are interacting with each other UM in
a close manner, Like we just had

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a Jupiter Venus conjunction. You could
literally see it in the sky where we

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had Jupiter and then Venus right below. So when those things happen, you

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kind of get a very unique cocktail
of those two planetary energies coming together UM.

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And it also depends what sign that
conjunction is happening in UM, like

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what what sign is in like what
because because there's kind of seasons with signs,

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is that right, Like there's there's
like we're currently in the age of

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what is it Aquarius or yeah,
so that's kind of separate from UM.

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Well, that is obviously a part
of astrology. But when we talk about

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you know, what a planet is
in there, they're always moving in you

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know, a clock face. If
you look at like an astrological astrological chart,

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um, the top half is the
above the horizon and the bottom part

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is below it. So each of
those segments, you know, of the

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twelve houses can be assigned to a
sign um for each individual's chart. It

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just depends on when they were born, where they were born. Um,

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But there are overararishing you know,
you know, like you said, like

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we're in the age of Aquarius now, so we were in the Age of

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Pisces. As a collective, we've
moved into the age of Aquarius. Yeah,

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so does that make sense totally?
It totally does. And I think

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you also explained in that video that
you sent me that when a conjunction happens,

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it can kind of magnify some of
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or celestial bodies. Is that right
too, Yes, depending on what planets

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are in conjunction, they can either
amplify or um you know, be detriment

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to right right, right, So
just it's there's so many different combinations of

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what can be going on. It's
it's that's what makes it so exciting,

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and that's what makes it so hard
to learn. Yeah, well, there

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was there was some sort of conjunction
in my chart with my sun and moon

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um, and what you kind of
gleaned from that was a strong ability to

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communicate clearly. And I think I'm
pretty good at that. I think I'm

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that's like, that's one thing I'm
decent at, so that that that like

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really kind of stood out to me. And then this is where I really

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started to kind of my jaw started
to hit the floor in uh, with

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my Saturn and pisces. You said
that I kind of have a slow or

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methodical acceptance of esoteric concepts. Ask
Ryan. We've been friends a long time.

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I ask a lot of questions,
Dude, is am I lying?

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Ryan, No, not at all. And I would say like, it

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wasn't until recently until you started,
and I say recently meaning like the last

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four or five years, like really
started to come around to a lot of

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this stuff. Oh yeah, I
mean I remember, you know, way

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back in the day, we you
know, even after the first experience with

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the lady, I was like,
huh, like what what what? Does

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any of this even mean? Like, how is this possible? And You're

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right, it was only within the
past probably three or four years, that

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I started resonating or this stuff started
resonating with me, and I was like,

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damn, there's probably something to this. So that was kind of insane.

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Uh. And the next thing in
the Saturn in Pisces was kind of

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a thirst for knowledge, which I
definitely would say I have, and a

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level of guardedness, which I feel
like it is a more recent thing for

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me because I feel like lately I
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Like you know, you're around twenty
seven, right, Yeah, I'm twenty

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I'm about to be twenty nine.
Yeah, So um, Saturn actually just

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entered Pisces. So it makes so
much sense that those energies are being amplified

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for you right now, Like yesterday, what, Yeah, I used to

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deal with these three back to back
full moons. Have you heard about that?

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Uh huh? Yeah, that's where
my wife was telling me. And

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I don't know if this is true
or not, but I don't even know

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if this is possible, but apparently
we've had like three nine to full moon's

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in a row. Is that really? I think that it may appear full

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is active the day before the full
moon, the day of, and the

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day after. So and it's it's
like something she read. It's not like

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she's, you know, like an
expert in this field. Yeah, we

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don't really go that deep into astrology, but um, I'll have to look

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into that to see. Yeah,
please, maybe the cur's rotation is slowing

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down or something. I don't know. Yeah, we went out on the

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back porch yesterday and looked up at
the moon and there was like a massive

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halo around it. It was like
witness me exactly. Yeah. Uh,

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it looked like it had like an
energy field around it. That's what I

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like. That's what I felt.
I was like a little halo exactly.

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It was weird. Okay, I'm
gonna this is the last one. Okay,

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this is this is my tenth house
and this one, this one was

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the home run. Uh you gleaned
that with my tenth house placement. I'm

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good with portraying ideas in a way
that's easy for people to understand, and

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I serve as a filter for complex
esoteric concepts and relate it to other people.

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That's literally like the only thing I
do on this show. Seriously,

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Ryan really watching. I tried to
stay away from the podcast, you know,

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to not interfere in my intuition.
And that's so funny that I took

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notes on my reading. Now,
I should still have the recording I can

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do. I can't remember if it's
in our DMS or if it's email or

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I'll have to find it I need, I'll find it. It's like and

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it's like a ten minute, very
thorough video. By the way, we

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can always record. I wanted to
ask you, are you done with your

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Yeah, yeah, that's okay.
So I wanted to ask your opinion on

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this. UM, I've been seeing
this for months now, and my intuition

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tells me it's very significant. Again
not coming from I'm hundred percent believe in

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astrology, but I don't like have
any I don't I don't have any illusions

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about like being an astrologer or anything
like that. UM, I've been hearing

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that this month for the first time
in two hundred and twenty five years.

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I think it's Pluto is entering Aquarius, which is supposed to be really energetically

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significant. Do you have any insights
on that? Yeah, yep, this

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is a huge thing in the astro
community right now. Everyone's kind of excited

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for it. Um with Pluto,
you know, we can have like where

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our generation is, you know,
Pluto in Scorpio, So our relationship with

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Pluto is you know, eighth House
stuff, which is like esoteric concept taboo

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topics, human sexuality, things like
that. So with that entering where it

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is, it's just going to amplify
those things in our society. So it

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is definitely a very pivotal moment that
combined with the ingress of Saturn into Pisces,

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those two things happening almost at the
same time as far as the universe's

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clock is concerned, are pretty huge
energetically, meaning like if I heard you

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correctly, and God, I hope
I did, you're saying that the Pluto

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entering Aquarius at this time is indicative
of like more widespread acceptance potentially of like

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esoteric and occult concepts exactly because Pluto
is uncovering and that's what Aquarius also does.

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Aquarius is like these higher thoughts,
Like if you've ever met somebody who

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has a lot of aquarious placements,
they're going to be the type of person

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that entertains you know, nuts and
bolse UFOs in Aquarius. Maybe I'm making

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that up. Yeah, when when
is Aquarius? One month? Um?

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Aquarius is? Uh end of my
mom's birthday's January Juary? Yeah, end

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of January into February. So twenty
first does that count? Is that like

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a cost or whatever? January custom
really thing? But yeah yeah yeah,

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like once once you move out of
a sign, you're not really into um.

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So don't hate the internet, yall, we're doing no cust Yeah,

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I'm in Aquari, said January.
Huh yeah in Aquarius. Yeah cool.

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Isn't it funny that my dad,
you know, had this experience with this

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like blonde haired lady that was like, oh, you know, we're entering

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the age of Aquarius. His wife's
in Aquarius. Like isn't that just so

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poetic? Yeah, your whole family
has things like that, with Teddy being

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a Taurus, like, those things
blow my mind. I really have to

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dig into Junior's chart. I was
supposed to do a reading for him too,

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and it just gets deeper each time
I look at it, which is

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incredible. I mean I'm always down
to learn more, trust me, I'm

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like spending my whole life trying to
see the significance of things. So like,

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you never bother me with that.
I promise, great, I'll blow

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you up. You will find me
of the session, you will find me

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and likewise do you you will find
me fascinated and esoteric astrological information so perfect

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And yeah, that brings up a
cool point. Have you heard of esoteric

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astrology? Um? So we talked
and to his credit, we talked about

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it like briefly one time, so
we've barely covered it and we don't know

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much about it either. Yeah,
it is deep. I've not heard so

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much about esoteric astrology myself, but
intuitive astrology definitely. That just kind of

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combines like energy work with astrology,
which is what I do, which is

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why when I get a chart,
it's not necessarily reading the most prominent placements,

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but what wants to be seen and
heard at that moment, and that's

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how I give you those readings that
like blow your socks off. Yeah,

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okay, so energy work, I'm
like that. I'd love to talk about

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that if you're down. Oh yeah, what sort of what sort of energy

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work are you drawn to? For
me, it's a lot of visualization.

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Um, that's what I was trained
in at Boulder Psychic Institute. And that's

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kind of where, you know,
being primed with that type of work from

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childhood with my mom. All right, yeah, how long were you at

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the Boulder Psychic Institute. Um?
I was there for about a year and

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a half. I took a little
hiatus and then I'm going to go back

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to you know, Yeah, you're
you're like a You're like a wizard or

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something. You're like a sage.
You're like a sage. I just imagine

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I read in you in like full
like Harry Potter like house uniform, just

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like studying in the library. I
don't really know at this point. You

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know, there's been some Hufflepuff in
the past. I don't know if that's

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just because I'm a stoner who loves
food. But you're giving me raving claw

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vibes, and I mean they're you
know, they're in the astrology tower.

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That's where their dorman is. So
come on now, but sorry, deil

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energy, I'm excited. No,
that's I have add I am ready to

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ride any tangent you throw at me. But yeah, UM, just a

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ton of visualization with specific techniques of
you know, incorporating you know, sacred

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symbolism such as the rose. We
use a lot of bubbles that you've heard

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me talk about where it gives you
a nice little container to do your thing

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in to heal yourself, to manifest
within and hearing Amy talk about the manifestation,

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it was so validating that the concepts
that she has, you know,

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done her whole life, Like that's
it's real, Like it's it translates to

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all these different modalities, very cool
stuff. Yeah, she's amazing. What's

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this bubble concept that you're speaking about? The bubbles thing? Yeah, so

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when I manifest I the visualization um
aspect of that, I place it in

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a bubble. And this is something
I learned at BPI, So got to

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give credit where credits due um.
But you kind of envision like like she

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was using that example of like Superman
flying over the water, like whatever your

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manifestation is, and you visualize it
in this bubble of neutrality, and you

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observe the colors that are in that
bubble with your visualization. And we're training

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that. You know, opaque colors
are foreign energy that may not belong in

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our space. So it we allowed
to clear out of that bubble through grounding

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that manifestation. Um, you know, translucent colors are our own energy,

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so we can look at those and
amplify them. And then a lot of

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this bubble work involves what we call
what I call the Supreme Being or God,

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so we get them involved. They
give it a little kiss. You

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look at it, you know,
make sure that you're ready, you like

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how it is, You slap a
little I want this or better onto it,

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just so you're not limiting yourself,
cover your basis exactly. We fling

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it out to the edge of the
universe. And how was it, Amy

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said in a way that pleases me. Yes, yes, yes, it

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just off the top of my head. Sorry, not to cut you off,

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but from the listener who's and I
only say this because I know this

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like being poked and prodded by the
general public since a kid, since I

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was a kid. And there's a
lot of people who hear what you're saying,

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and they think about it very literally. When you say the Supreme Being

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gives it a little kiss, you
you obviously mean this is what you visualize

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in your head. Yeah. Yeah, I envisioned like a golden light coming

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and enveloping that bubble and blessing the
manifestation and kind of giving it like a

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not a steal of approval in a
sense. But you know, back me

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up on this if it aligns with
me and then you release it, and

407
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:20.880
what will be will be? Dude. You know what's really blowing my mind

408
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:22.440
right now? And I'm gonna do
something I haven't done in a long time.

409
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:29.559
Um Stephen Universe. Uh uh.
In Stephen Universe, the way that

410
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:34.319
he saves a lot of these crystals
or these like crystal consciousness beings, he

411
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.000
puts them in a little bubble and
then and then he gives him a kiss

412
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.720
to heal him, and he puts
him in any and he sends them away.

413
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:46.880
Come on, so tapped in that
show, it really is it's it's

414
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:51.640
so is okay. So that's that's
really dope. That's a cool Uh.

415
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:57.599
I haven't heard that that bubble technique
before. That's that's I definitely recommend you

416
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:02.079
know, look at my resources about
you know, grounding yourself learning how to

417
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:07.079
read your own energy. Um.
Just because you know when I talk about

418
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.119
like, oh is this foreign energy? Is this mine? Doesn't mean it's

419
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:15.799
like bad energy. We just have
you know, places and traumas and experiences

420
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.920
where external energy can stick to us. So if you see those in your

421
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.519
manifestation, don't think that it's ruined
or anything like that. Wow, what

422
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.680
is your Do you have any experience
on reiki at all? Any sort of

423
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:36.759
experience with that? Funny because I
was actually last week supposed to be trained

424
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.079
in my first reiki attunement. But
it's just like I remember you saying that

425
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:43.359
in the discord. That's why I
had to ask. Yeah, I'm still

426
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.079
moving forward with that. I feel
like, um, you know, my

427
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.559
mom has this too, where people
will tell us that they feel the energy

428
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:53.599
from our hands when we're like rubbing
their face, and you know everyone has

429
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.240
energy. That's where your most important, you know, one of you know,

430
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.279
your strongest chakras are in the palms
of your hands, and your eat

431
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.279
and your feet. Yeah, the
Egyptian that's why grounding works exactly, the

432
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.240
trackers in the hands and feet.
Yeah, that's why moodra's work, bro,

433
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:12.360
because you have trackers in your hands, and that's why un on water.

434
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:21.039
Yeah, I guess it's possible.
Yeah a wild Yeah, And I

435
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:22.559
am going to be doing that and
I feel like that's just going to be

436
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:27.960
an amplification of what this work does. And it's it's absolutely it's just the

437
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.719
tool bell and you're expanding that tool
bell. Yeah, exactly. Could you

438
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:35.280
very fascinated? Could yeah, could
you explain what reiki is like one of

439
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.400
y'all or both of y'all or whatever. I don't know much about it.

440
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.119
Up to you, Melissa, if
you want to take it away, yeah,

441
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:45.239
sure, and um if please add
to this. But for my understanding,

442
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:50.159
it's an attunement of a certain lineage
of practice of energy work. It

443
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:54.840
originates in Japan and it's taught all
around the world, and it uh Reiki

444
00:34:55.039 --> 00:35:00.679
itself is the energy that comes out
of the practitioner hands and goes into the

445
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:07.320
energy fields of the recipient. And
it is this all knowing energy where you

446
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:13.760
you don't have to be looking for
anything to heal the like exactly, it's

447
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.480
exactly like chi but in you know, chi is a Chinese word. And

448
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:22.119
I don't remember the name of the
guy, but there was a Japanese guy

449
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:28.679
who like went up a mountain,
went on some like extensive meditative retreat and

450
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.159
basically came back down with the knowledge
of raiki, and he was revealed.

451
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.039
I don't remember exactly how he was
revealed them. But he was revealed these

452
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:42.400
like universal symbols that are like energetic
flows, I guess, and like that's

453
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.920
why you see these common reiki symbols, and they mean different things like power,

454
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.360
healing, wisdom, whatever. So
the raiky practitioner will either draw these

455
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.320
symbols or they'll like make them with
their hands. And it's all about cultivating

456
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:58.519
this, you know, even though
it's a it's a Chinese word, it's

457
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:05.119
easier to understand this type all encompassing
forest that's all around us and just pushing

458
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:10.800
it energetically into the recipient and clearing
their energy field. Exactly. WHOA,

459
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:16.679
I'm all about Eastern stuff. I
really believe I probably was like a monk

460
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:22.239
or something. Yeah if that.
Yeah, But I mean, like,

461
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.800
I mean, you know, I'm
so fascinated by Eastern techniques. Yeah,

462
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:32.679
they really have not been, you
know, subject to the suppression that Western

463
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:38.199
uh civilizations have that I'm just accepted
in the East exactly, And I personally

464
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:44.199
believe that Jesus in his you know, years of you know, you know,

465
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:49.840
missing from you know. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. However, under

466
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:54.639
points to Raydon Claw for bringing up
my esoteric name what Jesus. Yeah,

467
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:59.559
he was out there getting ripped.
Man. Yeah, what was you quote?

468
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.920
He's the most bad to the balm
sage. Yeah, he's the most

469
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.679
bad to the bone stage that ever
lived. It's true, bro. Spoiler

470
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.960
because we're doing a Theosophy episode soon. They're all about him. Oh yeah.

471
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.000
It's like the deepest of cold secret
they believe in the coming of Christ.

472
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:19.920
Like that's you know anyway tangent love
it. Yeah, it's I think

473
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:23.840
it's just that he is, uh, he's probably the most well maybe not

474
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:29.480
the most, but one of the
most prominent figures that that was considered to

475
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.719
like carry the Christ consciousness because you
know, you got you got Jesus,

476
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:38.599
you got Buddha, you know,
but Jesus, I mean Christianity. It's

477
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:43.679
you know, it's it's not that's
a separate thing. Yeah yeah, right

478
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:46.280
exactly, yeah exactly. But I'm
pushing Christianity. No no, no,

479
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:50.559
but but no, no, we
we got too much trauma for that,

480
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:57.119
but us exactly. Yeah, yeah, We're we're good on that. Yeah.

481
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.079
So that the Christ consciousness thing,
though, that's I can get behind

482
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:08.480
that. You know, the parallels
between all the different esoteric and exoteric religions.

483
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:12.840
It's like, you know, the
Bible's got some cool stuff in it,

484
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.079
dude. Honestly, like the deeper
you get into the literature of these

485
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:22.239
esoteric schools of thought, like specifically
here talking about Theosophy, it's crazy.

486
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:24.480
But they believe because they believe that
the Buddha and the Christ are actually two

487
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:30.039
different offices, and when combined,
they form the third most supreme office,

488
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.280
which is known as the Matrea,
the world Teacher, and they believe that

489
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:37.639
the Christ is the love of the
supreme God being in the Buddha is the

490
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.719
supreme wisdom of the God being,
and the Matrea will incarnate in the Age

491
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:45.239
of Aquarius, which is the combined
energies of the Buddha and the Christ office

492
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:50.159
or position, which will usher in
the Age of Aquarius. Deep shit,

493
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.239
bro, But like that's what I'm
saying. That's and I'm sorry to derail

494
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.280
your episode, Rose because this is
about you, but you know how we

495
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:00.800
do our tangents on this show.
But oh um, yeah, it's like,

496
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.760
you know, coming from somebody who
likes has been you know, I

497
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.960
feel like there's levels of initiation into
conspiracy theories. And again I say this

498
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:13.880
from personal experience. This is my
experience. It starts off at some point

499
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:19.840
people realize like their secret society,
there's Freemasons, there's Illuminati, and like

500
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.480
you think it's all bad, right, you think it's all devil worship,

501
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.719
and then like when you break past
that veil, you realize, like some

502
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:31.079
of the secret societies are good and
like there is some alternative knowledge out there

503
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:35.400
that's not evil, like they teach, you know, and like very old

504
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.840
fashioned Christian schools of thought and like
coming to find out like people like the

505
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:43.960
Rosa Crucians they have this incredible ancient
knowledge. Mason's I'm not crazy about them.

506
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.199
I think they messed up their personal
image a little bit too much.

507
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.480
I don't want to touch one of
it's in football. But like my point

508
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.039
is, you know, it used
to be everybody was like they worship,

509
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.960
they're Luciferians, they're all in the
devil worship. And then you read their

510
00:39:55.000 --> 00:40:00.280
texts, bro, and you like
actually read their texts and it's like christ

511
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:07.679
consciousness is they're too light and they
believe in Christ. That's the mind blowing

512
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.400
part. Yeah, exactly. I've
spent like fifteen years studying this stuff thinking

513
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:14.000
it was evil and then you open
their books and it's all about Christ and

514
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:19.760
it's like, yeah, yeah,
it's all intentional because if you knew that

515
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:23.039
you could access that, they'd have
no mechanism to control you through. It's

516
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.559
like it's like you gotta church,
and it's like you gotta you know,

517
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.119
once, once the apostle Paul's writings
came around, it's like, you gotta

518
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.519
get prostrate on your hands and knees, you gotta choose to suffer, You

519
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.440
gotta worship God, and you gotta
believe in him as this pagan deity.

520
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:39.039
But then when you open the like
the Rosicrucian text and stuff, it's like,

521
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:44.199
nah, bro, you are Christ. Yeah you are. We all

522
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:52.559
are, dude. Chill roll about
that universal love of self and forgiveness of

523
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.119
type whatever may cut you off from
that. By the way, we talked

524
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:01.199
about Salem didn't even mention my black
cat dds on the Yeah, she's just

525
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:06.440
kicking it. I love her collar. Oh yeah, my wife buys all

526
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.320
the collars. I let her dress
them up however she wants. It couldn't

527
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:13.679
taste Jenny. Look cut, hey, I had another question. Um,

528
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:22.320
I'm curious were you were you into
the UFO UAP type community before finding the

529
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:28.760
show or finding the Bledsoe's or what's
the story with that? So I found

530
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:37.679
you guys because my friend Meg,
she's mego potato in the Yes. Yes,

531
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.920
So she visited me and she knows
I'm into all of this stuff and

532
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.679
she was like, you need to
hear this man's story talking about your father

533
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:52.480
Ryan, And once I did,
it was very similar to my experience with

534
00:41:52.880 --> 00:42:00.800
my version of the Lady was isis
um just being shown the universal vibration of

535
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.000
love and playing with that like painting
things pink. That's a whole other thing,

536
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:12.280
but um with that. Uh.
My family has had et experiences,

537
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:16.679
specifically my sister where when we were
growing up in a town called Londonderry,

538
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:21.800
New Hampshire, which is has its
own hauntings and shit going on there.

539
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:30.480
Um she saw yeah, yeah,
the Shire. Yes, we'd always have

540
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.519
supernatural experiences. When we and my
sister shared a bedroom, we would share

541
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.639
dreams. We'd wake up at the
same time and be like did you see

542
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:40.840
that? Like yeah, and then
let's go back to sleep because it was

543
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:47.639
so normal. Yeah. Yes.
And she had a really unfortunately traumatic experience

544
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:52.960
where she was in our bedroom alone
and our vanity mirror faced the windows of

545
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:59.079
our bedroom and she saw what I
think is some kind of extraterrestrial. She

546
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.360
described it having very thin gray skin. You could see the ribs, and

547
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:07.000
it was just kind of hanging out
by our window. Um. So I've

548
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:13.360
always been aware of this type of
stuff. UM. I have not had

549
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:17.519
any encounters that I remember. Um, but we would see, you know,

550
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:21.519
things in the sky. I remember
being little with my mom in the

551
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.719
car and we just saw this red
orb like fly across the sky in front

552
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:29.360
of our windshield as we were driving
down a road. So they've definitely always

553
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:35.400
been there. Yeah. Wait,
did you did you have like an experience

554
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:39.119
with the lady or with you with
Isis You you mentioned Isis. Yeah.

555
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:46.960
Mine was initiated through a seven grand
mushroom trip. But yeah, that's the

556
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.280
last time I did mushrooms. Is
the most I've ever done. I was

557
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.559
like, okay, I literally learned
everything I wanted to thank you. Um,

558
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:59.440
but yeah, it is a lot. Yeah, it's like above a

559
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:07.320
yes, and it was. It
was very incredible. It was the most

560
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.679
beautiful experience of my life where I
was seeing the different layers of dimensions like

561
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:15.199
I'd see hieroglyphs, and then I'd
see sacred geometry all like these translucent sheets

562
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.960
in front of me. And I
was looking out at the sky, over

563
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.800
the mountains, over the rocky mountains
outside my window, and um, the

564
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.840
clouds started shifting and I do a
lot of clouds crying. I've talked about

565
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:32.360
it before in the discard, like
yesterday, yeah, yeah, and I

566
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:39.760
had Isis appeared to me as well
as archangel Michael and Bastet, the cat

567
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:46.719
goddess of egypt Um. So they
were showing me how to actively use the

568
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:52.800
vibration of love to all through my
reality. And I was literally looking at

569
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.360
a building painting at pink, seeing
people on the street, enveloping them in

570
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.000
the color pink, and it was
like I had led on. It was

571
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:05.280
such a vivid color. And after
I was coming down, I just started

572
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:12.800
sobbing so hard as I released lifetimes
where this was just not allowed to be

573
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:17.840
expressed in any way. You know
who you are, who you're Glinda the

574
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:28.159
Good Witch riding around in a pink
little bubble akka a grande hey yo,

575
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:30.239
for real, I was riding in
the riding the car with my wife the

576
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.199
other day. I don't even remember
where we were going and that we were

577
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.559
just on a road trip. Maybe
it was in Utah, and we were

578
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.400
talking about that and I said,
Jenny, how crazy is it that my

579
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:45.800
queen is the one who is depicting
this goddess who rides around in orbs?

580
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:49.880
You know, because that's like when
you think about it's funny she rides around

581
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.760
in an ORB and like my my
family were the ORB people, and of

582
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.880
all the actresses or whatever they picked
in the whole world, it's my queen.

583
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.039
You already know. Come on,
it was like episode five, I

584
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:09.360
confessed a grande and then I like, never talked about it on the show

585
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:15.599
again. Come on, now you're
gonna manifest meeting her? Yo, I'm

586
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:17.880
telling you, man, her husband, her husband has these I think is

587
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.079
the same birthday as me? No, so you go to in other words,

588
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:29.159
I have a shot. Yes,
yes, what is what is Ginny

589
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:37.280
gonna think about this? I told, yeah, the same thing that it's

590
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.159
either the same birthday or I know
you're the Leo, so you know the

591
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:44.119
same year two. Come on,
now, that's so funny, that's so

592
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:49.880
ridiculous. I love that your queen, you're your princess and your queen.

593
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:57.960
My wife is my princess. Okay, I have another fun question that I'd

594
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.199
like to ask, if you don't
mind not at all, Are you into

595
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:05.360
witchcraft? I am, I'm aware
you want to tell me about it.

596
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:13.320
I have a couple of friends who
also practice witchcraft, and it's it's so

597
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.320
cool and it's so wild the stigma
that's been placed on it, and so

598
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:20.920
I'd love to hear you talk about
it. Let me shut up. Yeah,

599
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:25.920
no, I love how witchcraft can
be whatever you want it to be.

600
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:31.039
Again, not everyone who is more
into the traditional practices may agree with

601
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:37.519
that, but anything can be witchcraft
with intention. I myself, I identify

602
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.480
as a kitchen witch, So that
means, you know, when I'm cooking,

603
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:45.880
I'm actively putting intention into the food. I'm using my energy work to

604
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:53.000
infuse certain vibrations into what later is
consumed. I'm communicating with the animals that

605
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:59.039
have provided me with what I'm consuming. Things like that. That also kind

606
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.559
of falls into like greenwich territory,
where you start talking to plants and things

607
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:08.280
like that. Um, you also
have like, yeah, ceremonial magic,

608
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:14.519
which involves the use of like altars
and specific uh you know, movements,

609
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:19.639
you you go through bro. Dionysus
was into that. Dionysus was all about

610
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:27.920
that. Shout out, Dionysus,
shout why on my altar earlier. Yes,

611
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:31.199
And the cooking thing I resonate with
a lot too, because I feel

612
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:36.079
like, so I cook pretty much
every day and I've done it for a

613
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:37.679
long time. I love cooking,
but like I feel like when I cook,

614
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:44.039
I go into a trance. Yes, I kind of like I've gotten

615
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.280
to a point where like I don't
have a single thought in my mind when

616
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:51.320
I'm cooking. My hands are just
moving, flowing with it. Oh,

617
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.760
it is. It is weird to
me. And so you saying that so

618
00:48:55.000 --> 00:49:00.159
so defined for me, Like you
know, there's there's obviously this crazy,

619
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:06.639
wild stigma about witchcraft that it's evil
and it's dark and it's whatever. What

620
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:10.920
is it to you? To me, it's just a way to connect with

621
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:19.400
all the different aspects of myself and
bring those into my physical reality. Um

622
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:23.159
for my exactly. And that's kind
of what I was going to say that,

623
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:30.079
you know, the energetic work that
I do translates to the witchcraft and

624
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.199
and you know vice versa, and
there are just so many different paths you

625
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.400
can take um. You know,
some people do you know, participate in

626
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:45.719
hexing and cursing, but you know
that doesn't necessarily yeah, yeah, I

627
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.239
don't. I don't like to that
because of the karmic implications of that kind

628
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.079
kind of work. And same with
like manifestation, Like if you're manifesting,

629
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.639
oh I want, you know,
Johnny to fall in love with me,

630
00:49:54.719 --> 00:50:00.400
Like that's going to fuck you up
karmically. So just having you know,

631
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:06.039
being aware of the energy and knowing
that it can be worked with on any

632
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:10.400
degree of the spectrum from dark to
light. You know, some people choose

633
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.920
to go a little darker. Some
people don't participate in any kind of you

634
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:19.559
know, shadow work or um.
And you know shadow work is just like

635
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:23.599
self reflection truly, but you know, there are so many different degrees of

636
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:29.199
it. And I think the stigma
comes from centuries of trying to oppress people

637
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:31.960
from the true power that we are, you know, as humans are meant

638
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:37.440
to access as a birthright for just
being a human soul. See my take

639
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.280
on witchcraft is it's like and I
don't mean to come off as like a

640
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:44.400
fencer or whatever, It's just my
honest take. But my take on witchcraft

641
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.400
is it's just like a bunch of
labels thrown on, like the already eternal

642
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.400
Eastern meditation practices, and like it's
really just not necessary, you know what

643
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:57.719
I mean, Like cut strength,
definitely not in path. It's like it's

644
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:04.079
like role it's like spiritual role play. To me, it can be there

645
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.199
are there are people who are ceremonial. Sorry for this, there are,

646
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:20.639
dare you. Yeah, you're so
right Ryan that it can be so performative

647
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:23.440
in some senses, Like you can
have a ceremonial magician who's going through this

648
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:30.440
elaborate ceremony and be so disconnected from
the spiritual self, just like you can

649
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.679
have somebody who's like, oh,
I'm just gonna light a candle here and

650
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:38.639
you know, say some words and
we're good. Like there are so many

651
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:44.639
varying degrees, but what matters most
is intention and for some people that extra

652
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.679
bits, Like for me, it's
just fun. It's just a fun way

653
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:52.440
for me to set up a pretty
little space to honor. Yeah exactly.

654
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:54.719
So yeah that and oh sorry,
go ahead, Alex, Yeah I'm gonna

655
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:57.440
cut you off. Nick, I
want to take it back to the kitchen.

656
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:01.400
Yeah, I find that really interesting
because I think, like kind of

657
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:06.719
to Ryan's point, like I feel
like a lot of people participate in magical

658
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.280
things without really understanding it. And
I really like what you said about the

659
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:15.280
food because you know, like we're
all told to stay away from processed foods

660
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:19.599
because they're not good for you and
they're not nourishing your body, and so

661
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:22.880
like, are they are they not
nourishing your body because they're not good ingredients?

662
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.360
And I think that is, you
know, the practicality that's part of

663
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:30.920
it. But is it the fact
that the human element and the soul was

664
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:36.800
completely removed and making that food product
that you're consuming this absolutely soulless piece of

665
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:42.719
product and expecting it to nourish your
body as opposed to something that somebody put

666
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:46.800
time and energy into making. And
I'm like one of those people. I

667
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:52.880
stumbled onto something where someone was like
speaking positive manifestations into their water before they

668
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:57.159
drank it. Yeah, yeah,
And I'm just I'm like one of those

669
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.679
people who I'll pour something into a
glass, like I try to only drink

670
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:02.880
out of glass, and then I'll
put it up in the in my window

671
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.000
sill and let the sun hit it
for a little while and then come back

672
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:12.199
and drink it or whatever. But
I think, like definitely, you know,

673
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:15.000
I don't think it's a coincidence that
like homemade food tastes good and also

674
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:20.840
is much better for your body as
opposed to something that was made by machines

675
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:27.880
and absolutely devoid of human contact.
Exactly. Yeah, food has vibration,

676
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.079
And what you did with the water
on the windowsill, that's witchcraft. That's

677
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:35.119
witchcraft. Like you don't have to
call it witchcraft, it is. You

678
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:37.079
know, that's just a label some
like like Ryan said, it can just

679
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:42.280
be a label, but your intention
behind that is where the magic lives.

680
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.760
Yeah, it's just like there's you
know, there's all of these different religions

681
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:50.320
that are talking about the same thing, but they call them different things because

682
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.159
they came from different parts of the
the you know, of the world.

683
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:59.559
If I'm not mistaken, Witchcraft started
in like with like the druids. Is

684
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.000
that is that right? Yeah,
well that in that part of the world.

685
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:06.840
If you go to Africa, it's
who do and exactly, And then

686
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.239
in the in the East, you
know they got raiki, they got you

687
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:15.599
know, they have all of the
it's the same stuff entire power. I

688
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:20.639
wanted to say, I saw this
really cool thing, you know that alex

689
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.360
Uh. In response to what you
were saying, Um, the Native America,

690
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:30.559
a lot of Native American tribes,
they believe that when kind of we

691
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:36.280
as as a human race kind of
emerged or or our consciousness evolved enough,

692
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:43.400
uh, they communed with like the
the spirit of nature, and they were

693
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:50.400
told that animal kind was put here
uh to live alongside us. But also

694
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:57.519
that they they kind of give us
their bodies as a blessing, uh to

695
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:05.159
nourish us with the that with this
kind of like social contract that we pay

696
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:10.440
respect to their bodies before we consume
them, you know what I mean,

697
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:14.960
Like we have to you know,
I'm I'm totally on board. And then

698
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.960
like hunting and fishing, like right, yeah, this the same thing.

699
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.119
And as long as and I just
think, as long as you are like

700
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:29.000
being sustainable about it and giving thanks
that it's like that there's nothing more nourishing

701
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:34.519
for your body than something that you
went out caught, you know, like

702
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:38.239
unfortunately took the life of and then
like eight like that, and that's like

703
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:42.519
that's kind of ceremonial in the way. But as long as you're you know,

704
00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:46.800
respecting that and and like being thankful
for that that that that's like giving

705
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:52.559
so much to you and your body, not only you know, just nutritionally

706
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:58.840
exactly, And even if you're in
a position where you can't source nutritious food,

707
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:04.519
simply thanking what you are consuming with
that intention, it just the same

708
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.639
thing. Raises the vibration of what
you're eating has a better effect and absorption

709
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.559
into your body. The Rosa Crucians
teach actually putting your hand over the food

710
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.280
and like blessing the energy from your
palms. Yeah, but you know,

711
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:20.440
I think that you do that rose, Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's

712
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.159
like it's like cool, and then
you just think about whatever you want to

713
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:27.400
infuse it. You know. Sometimes
it's like comfort if you have a little

714
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:30.000
tummy ache, you know, whatever, whatever intention calls for. One of

715
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:36.159
the most profound quotes that I've ever
heard that changed my life is from the

716
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:40.000
Tawe, which is like this ancient
mystical Chinese philosophy which is basically like you

717
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:45.920
know, Buddhism type belief consciousness.
There's this eternal consciousness force around us,

718
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:51.199
and it's like the towel. According
to the Taoists, it's like when you

719
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:54.519
name me You've lost me when you
name the towel. You've lost the towel.

720
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:58.639
When you try so hard to define
it, you just fucked it up.

721
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:00.679
You know what I mean? Me, that's the most profound is that

722
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:04.800
the towel the towel of Winnie the
Pooh. Uh huh. Yeah, we've

723
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.599
talked about that on the show before. Yeah, how about this. It

724
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.000
has a it has a grays Creek
Middle School tag on it. Right,

725
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:23.119
his mom worked in the library,
so they Man, that's funny. But

726
00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:27.719
that's that's My whole thing is like, you know, is you know,

727
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.000
I think it's important for people if
if they're open to more like advanced forms

728
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:36.280
of spirituality. It's like, just
don't think so or anything. Really,

729
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.239
Like this is why I hate politics, because people are so quick to label

730
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:43.119
themselves and then label others. And
to me, that's like the lowest just

731
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:47.239
just the the the lowest form of
ignorance possible. We're living in this completely

732
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:52.119
devoid world of happiness and truth and
awakening, and like we're on the cusp

733
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:55.920
of reaching that point, and everyone's
labeling each other and labeling themselves and it's

734
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:59.119
like, I think with the towel
said is correct, when you label me

735
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:00.880
or when you label God or the
force or whatever, you lost it.

736
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:06.480
So like that's my thing. Is
like whatever spiritual practice people are evolved in,

737
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:09.920
there's a lot of push I feel
for this like left hand path,

738
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:15.559
Like you know, oh, I
just learned the truth that I'm a spark

739
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:19.000
of God. I am God,
And it's like this total ego like self

740
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:22.199
serving thing, but it's wrong.
The true, the true enlightenment path is

741
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:27.719
like you learn the secret that you
are God. So now you become humble

742
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.199
because you're always in the presence of
God, whether you're with other people,

743
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:34.920
with yourself or just alone in the
forest, the cheat and the trees and

744
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.400
the waters and the animals, you're
always in the presence of the divine spark

745
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:42.239
of God. So that's why humility
and the right hand path is most important.

746
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:46.000
And that's my whole thing. Yeah, it absolutely translates to my own

747
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:52.079
personal practice as well, because I
believe every single molecule, anything that has

748
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:58.119
ever existed, we're all connected back
to that central source exactly. Yeah,

749
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:02.760
that's profound him. And also the
thing that you you guys were just talking

750
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:07.760
about with like kind of blessing the
food, which is so funny because we

751
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:09.320
had to do that our whole lives. Oh, by the way, a

752
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:14.519
fun little a fun little side note. You know how most people you're you're

753
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.000
done praying over your food and then
you say amen. Uh. My grandpa,

754
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:21.800
at the end of every prayer of
my entire life, he would at

755
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:28.400
the end of every player a prayer, he would say, playball. Yeah.

756
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:36.440
Yeah. Anyway, the thing about
blessing the food just literally a couple

757
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:38.760
actually, it was last time we
were on the way back from Wilmington,

758
00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:45.000
Me and Casey were talking about this
exact thing in the car of like the

759
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:49.760
spiritual relationship that we have with the
food that we're eating, and we were

760
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:53.199
talking about how kind of like hopeless
and sad it is that they make it

761
00:59:53.360 --> 01:00:00.559
so hard for us to source food
that is an any way has like a

762
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:08.079
personable you know, ethical treatment or
or whatever. And how I was talking

763
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:10.920
about, like, man, it
would just be so ideal if someday,

764
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.519
like I could I could source all
my own food and know where it came

765
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:19.079
from and pay respect to it and
whatever. And it kind of felt a

766
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:23.239
little hopeless. But the idea of
thanking it anyway, no matter where it

767
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:29.639
came from and putting that energy into
it and then kind of forming an energetic

768
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:32.519
bond with the food that way.
That actually gives me a lot of hope.

769
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:37.599
That's something that I'm gonna implement into
my daily practices because I think that's

770
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:43.840
important. There's a SpongeBob episode about
it, which one wait, dude,

771
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:47.719
hold up, we've been referencing spongebobs. No no, no, no,

772
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:50.880
no, no, no. The
one one he's like, what's a king

773
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.079
Neptune. They're like in a competition, remember, and he's like cranking out

774
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:58.760
like thousands of crabby patties. But
SpongeBob's like tucking his in Yeah yeah,

775
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:01.039
treating it with love and tasted so
good it was like even the gods were

776
01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:07.320
shocked. Yes, yep, that's
that's absolutely it. SpongeBob. Yeah,

777
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:15.199
I have to I speak SpongeBob my
second language, the same. I think

778
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:19.360
that's just like the generational thing because
you're you're around the same age as us.

779
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.079
I love to ask what we were
born in? Oh cool, yeah,

780
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:25.360
I'll be thirty in August. What
you were born in? Wow?

781
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:34.159
Same age as my brother? Okay, good year. Yeah that's awesome,

782
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:37.440
SpongeBob. Gen we sure do We're
at an hour, by the way,

783
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:42.480
So just before we like bounce out
of here, is there anything that you

784
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.920
feel like you haven't gotten off your
chest or you want to talk anything important

785
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:50.000
that you feel like you know you're
here now? Is there anything that you

786
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:53.400
really want to talk about? Um, you know, we've SpongeBob. What's

787
01:01:53.400 --> 01:02:00.480
your favorite episode? No, Honestly, we've touched on so much that I'm

788
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:06.159
so glad I got the opportunity to
bring to this platform because I feel like

789
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:10.280
a lot of people don't know how
much control is, you know, how

790
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:14.559
much access is just at their fingertips
for this type of stuff. It can

791
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:20.280
seem like it's very far away,
but we are literally human beings designed to

792
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:24.239
do the things that we talked about
today, So never forget that. I

793
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:29.599
really like your perspective. I think
it's very valuable and like I this this

794
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:34.480
is like to me, this is
my dream coming true because I always wanted

795
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.079
to, Like, even at the
conception of the shoot this show, I

796
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:39.639
knew that someday we would have guests
on when we got to that point,

797
01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:43.559
and like, this is awesome because
I feel like with each person we've brought

798
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:47.119
on, you know, especially lately, like with you and with Amy,

799
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:52.199
it's like we're cementing in my mind, what are like experts with these different

800
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:55.760
viewpoints, Like Amy's the manifesting expert, You're really into manifesting, but like

801
01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:59.400
you're really so good at so many
other things, and I feel like we're

802
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:05.000
just we're just like creating this cast
of like spiritual heroes who like have a

803
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.599
lot to offer everyday people. So
like, thank you. It's like the

804
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:15.679
spiritual Avengers or something. Yeah,
you guys are facilitating, facilitating all of

805
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:21.320
this. You know, everyone is
literally magnetized to this space to speak because

806
01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:24.880
you guys have created it and the
people who are who need to hear it

807
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:28.880
are going to And this is dream
come true for me too, to be

808
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:32.559
able to speak on these topics,
you know, without fear. That's a

809
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:37.400
huge thing for me. So thank
you both and any two Alex off Camp.

810
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:42.760
It is completely our pleasure. You
are the greatest. And also,

811
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:47.280
like we we barely scratched the surface
on on multiple things, so please please

812
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:51.599
come back, please come back.
We gotta do another one. This was

813
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:53.440
too much fun. I cannot believe
it's been an hour. I know,

814
01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:58.679
I know it flew by, and
yeah, I anytime you need me.

815
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:01.840
I'm here. Hell yeah, you're
the best. Okay, all right,

816
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:05.360
you know how we in the show. Let's do it all right, but

817
01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:10.239
hang on by the way, don't
don't leave until because we're gonna let it

818
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:14.039
fade out. Okay, okay for
a second after let's get all right.

819
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:24.960
One weird things happened in the backyard. Let's house, yea, let's just

820
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:35.719
send I got it's so weird,
kind of closer to my hair. Stag

821
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:45.800
is straight up like spiraling on the
inside of it. No one knows.

822
01:04:48.599 --> 01:05:11.400
Wow, come right, never shine. He ain't happy.