1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,200 A little Bit of Dolo is a podcast about a little bit of everything for 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,519 curious minds of all ages. I'm Christina and you can tune in every weekday 3 00:00:07,559 --> 00:00:12,560 to learn about things like Sinco de Mayo, Chihuahuas, lucha, and volcanos 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,160 in Latin America. Episodes are bite sized, ten minutes long, and always 5 00:00:16,199 --> 00:00:21,039 Latin American related. Subscribe and follow a Little Bit That Dolo podcast wherever you 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:29,559 listen to podcasts. Hi, everyone, this is Christina and this is MJ 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,920 and Carmen and this is another episode of his Spooky Tells, the podcast for 8 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:38,439 all things spoogee, hunted, places, myths, legends, sometimes to crime. 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,799 Like today we're doing both a hunted no legends, legends, that's what 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,280 we're doing, legends, and a true crime case that I had not heard 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,399 about that I will be telling the both of you and our listeners. But 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:56,719 first we have a oh, I guess it was legends from Sacatecas. That's 13 00:00:56,759 --> 00:00:59,759 what it is. That's what we're doing. Yeah, But first we do 14 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,799 have a listener's story, which is Carmen's job now. So if you have 15 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,280 a story that you want to send into the podcast, you can email a 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,000 Spooky tales at gmail dot com. You can DM us on any of our 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,079 socials. You can submit it on Discord. You can call the Spooky hotline. 18 00:01:14,439 --> 00:01:17,799 If it's super long, but you still really want us to hear it 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,319 and for us to share it, then just message me. We'll work something 20 00:01:21,359 --> 00:01:23,959 out. We've done it before. So yeah, those are all the options. 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,079 There's a lot of them. I mean, if you really like want 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,560 to, you can even write us a letter because we do have a po 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,120 box address that's in the show notes. How cute would that be? That 24 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:38,480 would be insane. I would die, like on the spot, just because 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,599 I would be so excited. Who does that anymore? Like writes letters? 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,519 I know? I don't, Okay, So yeah, Carmen, do you 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,599 want to read the listener's story? Okay, let's get into the listener story. 28 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:56,519 This is from someone. Oh yeah, sorry, does it not show? 29 00:01:56,959 --> 00:01:57,719 No, it is, but I don't know if they want to use 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,519 their name or not. Okay, yeah, we'll keep him mo anonymous. 31 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:06,280 Then yeah, I'll use the nickname Maddie. Okay. So Maddie says, 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,360 So, I've always been able to see those who aren't living from the age 33 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,639 I can remember as early as five. It started when we first moved into 34 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,879 my childhood home four blocks from a huge cemetery. Yikes. It was my 35 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,960 parents and four siblings. I shared a room with my sister, who's two 36 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:27,719 years older than me. But it started with just seen what looked like a 37 00:02:27,759 --> 00:02:32,000 tall mill with the very dark aura who would just watch me sleep outside my 38 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:37,960 door. As weeks turn into months, it started to get worse. I'd 39 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,400 wake up mid sleep and I'd look over to the door slash hallway area, 40 00:02:40,479 --> 00:02:44,719 and he would start to creep in. And the closer he got, no, 41 00:02:45,199 --> 00:02:49,159 the more fear overcame me. As he got even closer, it would 42 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:52,960 seem as he was trying to talk, but all I'd hear was a very 43 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:58,759 loud static noise, like when a TV goes flat like like that, like 44 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 ficks. I don't know I'm doing it. You don't have to do it, 45 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:06,560 You're right, my bad, but thanks for that effort, thank you, 46 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,719 but very loud with the high pitched ring, similar to when someone flatlines, 47 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:15,039 and my nose would bleed like a faucet. Oh my god, Oh 48 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,360 my god, that's terrible. Yeah, these are not childhood memories that you 49 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,560 want. No, now, not your typical five year old memories. I 50 00:03:24,599 --> 00:03:29,319 started to cry, and my sister woke up, frantic and confused. She 51 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:31,919 carried me to my parents' store, put me down, and began begging my 52 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,319 mom to open all while I was still just hearing this loud as a noise, 53 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,000 but couldn't see him anymore. I ended up passing out from the noise. 54 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,479 And that continued for months, the constant nose bleeds, seeing him most 55 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:50,520 nights, till I finally told my capitalized Hispanic Catholic mom what I was seeing. 56 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,599 She then prayed over the whole upstairs with blessed holy water she had from 57 00:03:55,599 --> 00:04:02,639 Mexico. Blessed that's the best at rite best hot water, holy water straight 58 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:12,960 from these stores to Mexico, forget the Vatican, and it was blessed from 59 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,480 a priest from Klima. She filled cups with holy water and left them in 60 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,480 each corner of the upstairs as well, and the cups grew mold and the 61 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:26,480 holy water seemed to have disappeared. Wow, that can't be good. That's 62 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,879 She then got a priest to bless our house and it finally stopped. After 63 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,000 that, I never had any bad encounters with the lost. Oh, that's 64 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,199 good because that was horrifying. Yeah, that was scary, you know what 65 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,560 I feel like. At least it wasn't like approaching her and trying to talk 66 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,480 while going like, oh my god, that would have been extra extra creepy. 67 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:49,240 Yeah, not that it wasn't creepy already, but wow. Well, 68 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,040 if you want to go first, okay, yeah, I'll go first. 69 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:59,759 So this first legend is not like spooky, but it's it's cute. Okay, 70 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,040 okay, okay, I love a cute legend. I think it's cute. 71 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,120 I never heard of it. And it's in Sacatecas, in the city 72 00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:12,920 of Sacatecas, and it's called Legenda de la More. Oh, it sounds 73 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,519 cute, a ria, it sounds like it's going to be cute as fuck. 74 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:19,360 It's so cute. This love story takes place in Miguel Ausas Square. 75 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:26,040 The year was eighteen sixty, a few years after the Mexican American War. 76 00:05:26,319 --> 00:05:29,480 There used to be a man by the name of Juan, and he was 77 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:31,839 a water carrier. I had a Google list, and water carriers were people 78 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,279 who would collect water from a water source like a well and carry it to 79 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:42,079 people's homes. Lit a water carrier, yeah, literally, literally, so 80 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,199 he had no money to his name. He was poor. Juan, however, 81 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:48,439 was in love with Aralia, a wealthy young woman, and due to 82 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:57,560 his economic status, he would work day and night amor yes ze Ala Selenado 83 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:04,439 or Ala Juan Gabrielle nothing. Every day he would work in the mine in 84 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:11,079 hopes of finding a vein of silver to impress Alia. After many failed attempts, 85 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:14,480 he was not discouraged, but instead became a water carrier. With his 86 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:19,199 companion, a donkey. He began selling water definition of if he wanted to, 87 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:27,600 he would, oh, my god, and I love it. I 88 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:38,879 love it, and we love a donkey, and we do. I try 89 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:46,560 to do the donkey I can. Oh my god, they're so unserious, 90 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:53,680 I know. So Juan and his burrito went house to house selling water until 91 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,000 they finally came up to Miguel Alsa Square. In the square, Alia had 92 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,079 planted a small garden and a tree, so Juan would go to the square 93 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,879 after work and water the garden and the tree. Legend has it that this 94 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:13,120 tree was either an Alia paper rifer tree or a coralberry tree plant. I 95 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,879 don't know, this is what they said. I googled it and I was 96 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,279 like is it a plant? Is it a tree? I don't know. 97 00:07:19,079 --> 00:07:24,920 It grows really tall, that's all I know. He would spend every afternoon 98 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:30,199 there and he was appreciated by the community. But most importantly, she didn't 99 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,000 care about economic status or social status, so Juan and her became great friends. 100 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:38,439 He would go home the happiest man in the world, feeling like the 101 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,399 luckiest man in Zacatecas because he had Aralia's friendship. He would go home and 102 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,319 recite the cheesiest poetry to his donkey, to the donkey, Oh my god, 103 00:07:48,439 --> 00:07:51,800 he was practicing. Yeah, he was practicing. He couldn't he couldn't 104 00:07:51,839 --> 00:07:56,800 tell her, but he would like, look at donkey, donkey, donkey, 105 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:01,959 This is the pry I am. I mean, who hasn't held their 106 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,160 animal hostage? Right? Like? They have no other option than to be 107 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:09,600 there for you, exactly, and they have to listen. It reminds me 108 00:08:09,959 --> 00:08:22,720 of the TikTok or instagrams like and is like I was the donkey with with 109 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:30,519 his cheesy ass. And as time passed, their friendship bloomed and they became 110 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,000 closer. At this time, however, the French invasion had started. The 111 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:41,080 French Yeah, and the French invasion brought a stranger to town. Philip I 112 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:50,240 was trying to say in the Spanish, I can't pronounce whatever it's French. 113 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,279 Even even though he was part of the enemy's army, he had won the 114 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,279 hearts of the town folk. He was a heart throb. The girls in 115 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,159 town loved. He was described as being humble and kind to everyone. After 116 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:09,240 he met Olia, his connection to the towns people became even stronger. Felippe 117 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,480 fell in love with her, and he confessed his love to her as well 118 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:16,600 as told her he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her. 119 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,320 Fucking Philip, I don't like this coming in here and ruining shit. He 120 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:28,039 is colonizing Mexico Andia's heart m Araalia was really moved by the gesture, and 121 00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:33,240 she had also started to develop feelings for Philippe. Juan started noticing what was 122 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:37,039 happening, and when he arrived at the square, he noticed that they were 123 00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:41,080 only focused on each other. Alia and Phelippe acted as if no one else 124 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:46,840 existed. Ouralia was in love at this point with both Felippe and Juan, 125 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:52,840 two very different men, but both just as equal and kind. She didn't 126 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,720 know what to do, so she went to the church and prayed to the 127 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:58,960 saints to help her make a decision. She, however, started crying uncontry 128 00:10:00,039 --> 00:10:03,480 rollably. She was distraught. She didn't want to make the choice, but 129 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,840 she had to. She had to not only break her heart to some degree, 130 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:09,559 but also had to break the heart of one of the people she cared 131 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,000 for. She ran out of the church and went to her garden, and 132 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:16,759 there she sat under the tree that she had planted, the tree that Juan 133 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,600 had watered daily. She began to once again cry uncontrollably, and at that 134 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:26,120 moment, the branches of the tree moved and water droplets fell from the tree 135 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:30,159 onto her lap. The tree began to cry. Those tears turned into a 136 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,279 beautiful bouquet, and she knew then and there who she had to pick. 137 00:10:35,159 --> 00:10:39,320 Who else was watering her lawn. I feel like it has to be Kuan. 138 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:41,440 But I'm like, I'm tiam Quan already. I know it from the 139 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,000 beginning, any care who was going to come into the picture. I was 140 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:56,039 like, tiam Quana, is pick the Kuan? The only one for you? 141 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:05,320 It was very unproblematic, not oh my god, finish the story. 142 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Sorry, go on, go on, We'll shut up. That afternoon, 143 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:13,039 Juan was in the mines once again trying to find a vein of silver. 144 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,960 When luck would have it, he successfully found one. Excited about the meaning 145 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,559 of this, he rushed down to the square prepared with his speech, ready 146 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,879 to ask Araya for her hand in marriage. When he arrived, he saw 147 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:28,480 Araya. They locked eyes. He walks towards her, ready to ask her 148 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,440 to marry him, but to his surprise, she didn't give him a chance 149 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,519 to say anything. She kissed him. He was so surprised he forgot the 150 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,240 speech and proposal. Soon after, the two were married, and the legend 151 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,399 says that those who are committed to their relationship should go to the square and 152 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,799 profess their love for each other under the tree. However, sadly the tree 153 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,080 has since been cut down, but it's still a tradition for lovers to go 154 00:11:52,159 --> 00:11:58,080 to the square. Oh okay, that was the cutest thing ever. I 155 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,639 loved this story. Yes it was. It was heartfelt and I was like, 156 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,919 that's so cute. I mean it had everything. A donkey, a 157 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:15,039 dunkey, sorry, a donkey, friends to lovers, love triangle, a 158 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:28,639 magic tree, slow burn, a little bit colonization perilysm the French, but 159 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:33,600 like, really, what did this story not have? Perfection out of ten 160 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,639 highly recommend It was such a cute legend. I was like, oh my 161 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:41,559 god, if I lived in that town, I would totally like do that? 162 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:46,879 Is it like gross cute? Yes? But I am down for that. 163 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,840 I love the cheese. Yeah, it's the cheesiness of it and that 164 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:54,960 we got from the French. So this next story is called the Black Monolith 165 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:05,759 of Death. Sounds scary put insert some done done so during the colonial During 166 00:13:05,799 --> 00:13:15,080 colonial Mexico, two friends, Missael Galan and Hildrado Igino, began exploring what 167 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,639 is now the mountains of Sacatekas, and there were rumors that the mountains held 168 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:24,399 riches that could make them money. Months passed exploring Sacatecas. On one day 169 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:30,279 they found a cave that had a shiny black cube. They didn't know what 170 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,000 it was, however, they assumed it was of great value. They had 171 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:37,399 no idea who could have carved the stone in a way that it had straight 172 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,960 edges. They dug it up from the ground and began hauling it back into 173 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:46,080 town. Their plan was to break off pieces of the cube and sell it 174 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,879 off News of their findings spread and the town prepared to receive them with a 175 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:54,000 celebration. However, the days began to pass and there was no news of 176 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:58,759 them. The town began to worry for them and sent a searge party. 177 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:01,200 They were found at the entrance of the cave with signs of being attacked with 178 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,720 a knife. Had they killed each other? Were they attacked, and if 179 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:11,240 they were attacked, why did the attacker leave a black monolith. The townspeople 180 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,480 loaded the bodies and the cube and hauled it into town. Days after the 181 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:18,679 funeral, a merchant in town took in the stone. He killed his wife, 182 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:24,960 then killed himself. The neighbors didn't understand what could have happened to cause 183 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,720 the merchant to do this murder suicide. It was behavior that was uncharacteristic of 184 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:33,799 the merchants. The townspeople noticed that there was a common denominator in both incidents, 185 00:14:35,399 --> 00:14:39,600 the black cube monoliths. One of the merchants neighbors believed that the cube 186 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:43,039 was cursed by a shaman as revenge for the Spanish taking their lands. Another 187 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:48,279 one thought that the cube came from the devil. The people decided they needed 188 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:52,279 to get rid of the monolith. A group of villagers volunteered to return the 189 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,320 cube. After many days, they did not return, so another search party 190 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:00,000 was sent to look for the volunteers. They were worried that the cube caused 191 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,840 more death. Their fears were confirmed. The party was found dead in similar 192 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:09,639 conditions as the previous two incidents. They needed to get rid of this stone. 193 00:15:09,799 --> 00:15:13,399 It was causing deaths. They didn't know what to do, so they 194 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,360 sought out the local priest, who blessed it. They moved the cube to 195 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:20,320 a secret location. The location is unknown, but legend says that it was 196 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:24,720 placed in the walls of the Sacatecas Cathedral. There was supposed to be a 197 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:28,279 bell that rings if people get too close to where the monolith is. Oh 198 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:31,399 to one like, so they don't like move it and it doesn't cause death 199 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:37,159 again. Yeah, because they thought it was like cursed or like the devil 200 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,720 himself like made it. I don't know. That was all cut off. 201 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:48,600 I was like, what, okay, Yeah, my network is struggling over 202 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:52,799 here, guys. Oh no, okay, we'll just announce in case MJ 203 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,360 disappears. At least we got through the first part of the story. You're 204 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,399 part of everything. I mean Okay, we're gonna take a quick ad break. 205 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,960 Welcome to our Hunted break. 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The best 224 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,160 supporter that you can give us is just listening to our episodes here, so 225 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,680 thank you for doing that. And we're back from the ad break, okay, 226 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:44,240 so I will be telling both of you about the Chihua wa. Oh 227 00:17:44,319 --> 00:17:49,000 my god, it's so hard to go from English top I was gonna say. 228 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:55,720 I was gonna say the chiwawad ripper that reap it. Okay, So 229 00:17:55,839 --> 00:17:59,319 the Chihuahua Ripper is what I was trying to say. Content warning for a 230 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,039 rape include that of a minor. And this is a serial killer case from 231 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:04,359 Mexico. So you know, if you don't want to hear to crime, 232 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,319 just skip my part completely. That's fine. Go to the end where we 233 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:14,319 will have spooky recommendations and yeah, so we'll just get into it. Lorenzo 234 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:21,680 Ernesto Olivas moved from Delicias, Chihuahua to the capital, Chihuahua City in northern 235 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,880 Mexico. He was twenty one. He had started working at a meat processing 236 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:32,319 facility. He moved with some family in Cologna Vista Mossa, and they this 237 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:33,799 was close to his job, which is why he moved in with them. 238 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,880 His hometown was like an hour away. You know. He was just a 239 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,279 twenty one year old living in this neighborhood, making friends with like everyone there, 240 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,160 working doing normal twenty one year old things. So there was one night, 241 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:49,920 November thirteenth of that same year, which did I even write down the 242 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,319 year? Okay? I was like, I remember you saying it. I 243 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,039 didn't, that's why. So yeah, the fifteen was a year. So 244 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:03,400 on that night he told his family that he was just going to go out 245 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,680 and get some food. And it was already pretty late on Friday. But 246 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:10,400 it's not weird because, like if you've been to a big city in Mexico, 247 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,079 you can find a food vendor at any time. Like I remember ten 248 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,240 pm, We're like, all right, let's go get tacos. Let's go 249 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,440 some takitos. Yeah, yeah, mamosillos Takitos l Cuebes. It was like 250 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:26,440 ten pm, Yeah, ten pm, and like literally we walked like lessoned 251 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,039 ten blocks away. Yeah, it was like a eight minute walk at most. 252 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,680 And yeah, there was and it was a full line. So it's 253 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,400 not weird, Like you can't do that here. You can go to a 254 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,759 fast food place, but you can't find food vendors at that hour, like 255 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,400 in a random street in a normal city, and like where I'm from at 256 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,119 least. Yeah, So he just told them he was going to go get 257 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,119 something to eat, and they didn't. They were like, all right, 258 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,119 that's fine, it's not weird or anything. And then he didn't come back 259 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,200 that night. But again, it was Friday, it was the weekend. 260 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,519 He was twenty one, so his family they still didn't think it was a 261 00:19:56,519 --> 00:20:00,319 big deal. They were like, well, maybe he went and meant the 262 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,599 weekend with some friends, or maybe he even drove back to his hometown because 263 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,640 it was again only an hour away, so they didn't get anything of it. 264 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,160 But then Monday came around and he was still not back, and so 265 00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:15,200 this is when they were worried because it wasn't like him. It wasn't like 266 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:19,640 him to miss work, to be gone the whole weekend and not come back. 267 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:23,880 So this is when they reported him missing. Now this is November sixteenth. 268 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:29,559 Now, sadly after they reported him missing and police began his search. 269 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,240 The next day, on the seventeenth, he was found in pieces. Oh 270 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:40,680 no, yeah, dismembered. So part of his remains were found in a 271 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:45,759 ravine close to the family home in that same neighborhood, and this launched the 272 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:52,000 official homicide investigation because obviously you don't get cut up into pieces if it's not 273 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:57,839 a homicide. So because they began searching now in the same area, not 274 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,359 far from this ravine, there was an abandoned house and in that house, 275 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,720 it's on Gayes Novena isaavel. So on that house they found his torso and 276 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:15,880 his head and then went straight over the street behind that one they found the 277 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,599 rest of his remains stuffed in a tire. Yeah, horrible. And next 278 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,799 to that tire there was the front half of a try like a kid's tricycle. 279 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,559 Oh my god, I thought, say a kid's body part. I 280 00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:30,839 mean, all of this is just getting worse and worse, like every every 281 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,400 sentence you speak gets worse. Yeah, every second that went on, it 282 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,759 was like, oh my god. Yeah, so yeah, it was disturbing 283 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,839 and strange at the same time. Both Other than that tricycle, there was 284 00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:45,319 no other clues that could lead them to the killer. They were just confused 285 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,880 and they wouldn't know what happened to Lorenzo, why he was there, who 286 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,559 the killer was. They wouldn't. This has takenother several months and more victims 287 00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:59,599 for them to finally piece together what happened. So one month after Lorenzo was 288 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:03,799 discovered, on December thirteenth, there was another dismembered body in the same ravine, 289 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:10,240 the same place, and this was Danielle Alfonso Rodriguez, who was twenty 290 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,759 two and from the same neighborhood. Like Danielle and Lorenzo, they probably knew 291 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:18,759 each other. They were probably friends one and twenty two, same neighborhood. 292 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:25,160 So Danielle he was found in the same ravine. His feet were cut off 293 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,000 at the knees and wrapped in a sheet. The rest of the body was 294 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:34,400 stuffed in a truck tire just a few inches away. His skull had been 295 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:40,400 crushed with the blunt object, and as if that was not enough, he 296 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,519 had also been shot twice in the head and then there was the back half 297 00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:52,599 of that tricycle that was in Lorenzo's crime scene, that was at Danielle's crime 298 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:59,960 scene. Oh that's weird. Yeah, it's it's disturbing. So this time 299 00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:03,759 there was more things left behind the crime scene by the killer. So they 300 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:07,680 found things that were covered in blood. There was pieces of sheets and rags, 301 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,279 rubber gloves, a wheelbarrow, a green hack saw, a pair of 302 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:15,319 black shoes, the thing I already mentioned, the second half of the broken 303 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,880 tricycle, and in id and the idea of course, had a name and 304 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:25,319 a picture. It belonged to Andres ulisas Castillo bi ya Real. Because of 305 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,359 the way that Danieg's body was found and where it was found, they immediately 306 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,359 figured that this was the same person that had killed Lorenzo. So now they 307 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,319 had a name for both victims. And so a little bit about andres ulisas 308 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,200 castillobi ya Real. He was born in nineteen eighty. You know this neighborhood, 309 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:45,000 this is where he had lived all of his life, and this was 310 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:49,640 a very dangerous, impoverished neighborhood. He was a construction worker, but he 311 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:56,240 was also really like in two drugs and he himself you know, in living 312 00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:59,680 in poverty as well. And he was also a small time drug dealer. 313 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,000 He was known to be an angry person. He had been cut off from 314 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,680 most of his family for that reason, for like having you know, violent 315 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,480 outbursts, angry outbursts. So now that police knew who he was, they 316 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,240 could find him, but he had apparently got on the run, so they 317 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:19,440 could not find him even though they finally had his identity, and they were 318 00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:25,319 kind of like at a dead end with this until a miner came forward. 319 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,920 And this miner really filled in a lot of them missing information how Danielle and 320 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,799 Lorenzo, what they had to do with each other, Andres like he filled 321 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:40,680 in the blanks for them. So this miner came forward. He also led 322 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,640 them to a third victim, and this third victim was also dismembered. His 323 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:52,000 name was Fernandez vas Gandaria. He was found in what was Andres's house and 324 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:59,240 pieces again. And so this last discovery and the miner coming forward, it 325 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:03,039 did eventually leave them to andress this capture, but not due to like good 326 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:10,440 police work, it never is. What actually happened is that Andreas he was 327 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,039 still like working his normal job, living his normal life, but like moving 328 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:18,880 from house to house, still within the same neighborhood. He hadn't even gone 329 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,519 far. So he was at work and his boss caught him at work trying 330 00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:30,160 to sell drugs to other employees, and so the boss called the police. 331 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:36,440 The police picked him up, ran his fingerprints, and they matched the crime 332 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:41,319 scene, the second crime scene, So that's why they connected the killings. 333 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:47,240 Otherwise they didn't know that this person they had just arrested for selling drugs was 334 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,559 the same person who had done this. Yeah, he was arrested, Brian 335 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,440 to custody, and now there was a complete clear picture of what had happened, 336 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:56,319 which is what we're going to go through next. And this is all 337 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:02,279 terrible. This is even worse, So to skip this if you want not 338 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,319 YouTube though. But so other night of November thirteenth, when Lorenzo left his 339 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,160 house, he visited a restaurant bar not far from his house. It was 340 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:17,359 called California, and it's a very small and crowded place, but it's like 341 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,839 a deep place to be for Friday night. It's always crowded. He met 342 00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:26,200 Andres there and they had a few drinks. Andrea suggested that they go to 343 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,720 his house and do drugs, and Lorenzo agreed, I mean he's twenty one, 344 00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:33,680 you know, I mean yeah, drugs alcohol like yeah, So they 345 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:40,359 walked a couple blocks back to Andressa's place, where they had methamphetamines. They 346 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,000 continued to drink. After a few minutes, for some unknown reason, they 347 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,920 started to argue, and then Andres suddenly grabs a hammer and just started hitting 348 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:56,519 Lorenzo in the head until Lorenzo passed out. He then proceeded to again, 349 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,200 content warning, he proceeded to rape Lorenzo. When he was done, he 350 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:07,799 grabbed the hammer again and he pounded Lorenzo's head until like it was completely crushed. 351 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,200 Then he dragged Lorenzo's body to the shower, where he dismembered it with 352 00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:18,039 a hacksaw. It sounds like he's like experienced in this already, right, 353 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,279 like he knew what to do, right, Like who knows what to Yeah? 354 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:26,079 Well, first of all, like why does he have all these things? 355 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Why does he have a hacksaw? Well, he works in consumption. 356 00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:30,920 I was just gonna that was my second question. Well, his job was 357 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,160 in I don't know, this is just wild, that's insane. Yeah, 358 00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:38,799 After he dismembered Lorenzo. Andres put on a new shirt and pants, and 359 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:44,160 he went next door and he knocked and knocked and knocked until the door was 360 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,480 opened. And by now it was midnight. I mean the neighbor he probably 361 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:52,279 knew, Andres I don't know. He just opened the door and Andres asks 362 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:56,359 this neighbor to come help him with something. He doesn't tell him what, 363 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,680 And the neighbor agreed. And the neighbor is the miner who went forward to 364 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,960 the boss. That is the neighbor. And he remains anonymous throughout all of 365 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,240 this because he was a miner at the time. Yeah, so his name 366 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:11,880 was never released or anything. So he agreed, but obviously he's very confused, 367 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,119 he's very scared. He's like, what do you want? It's past 368 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,880 midnight. Yeah. So when they got to Wan Dress's house, he told 369 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,599 the miner like, hey, I have something for you to see in the 370 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:23,559 bathroom. Yeah, and he showed him. You're like this, what a 371 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:29,519 fucking what a creepyst thing to say? Yeah, like like show and tell, 372 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,559 but discussing and horrifying. So he went and showed him. Lordenzo's dismembered 373 00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:38,359 remains. Oh, poor kid. Oh my god. Yeah, and I'm 374 00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:42,640 I don't know his exact age, but I'm i'm assuming teenager, m but 375 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:48,039 like traumatizing, so traumatizing. Yeah. So the boy tried to run away, 376 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:52,799 but Andres threatened him like, if you don't help me, then you're 377 00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:56,680 gonna be next. I've killed before. I'm a pro, I'm a serial 378 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,480 killer. Like that's what he told him. I believe it that was not 379 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,880 his first victim. I did too. So they took the torso on the 380 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,799 head. They put it in a suitcase and then onto a wheelbarrow, which 381 00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:14,519 they then took to the ravine and then you know, stuffed it into an 382 00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:18,960 old tire. Then they put the tire next to some bushes and then somehow 383 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,319 I don't know if this tricycle was already there, like in this ravine, 384 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,119 dumped or whatever, but Andres grabbed it and put it next to the tire. 385 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,759 When they were back in Andresa's house, Andreas was like, oh, 386 00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:33,079 I have another idea, and then he threatened the boy and told him that 387 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,880 they were going to have sex unless he wanted to die. I knew it. 388 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,720 I knew you were going to say that. Oh my god. Yeah, 389 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:42,599 Like where else would this go with this depraved ass piece of shit? 390 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,640 Has this kid not been traumatized enough, victimized enough? And still he does 391 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,720 this like oh my god, yeah for real? And he told the miner 392 00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:56,160 like, Lorenzo, I killed him because he refused to have sex with me. 393 00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:59,599 So if you don't do this, and you're going to be next. 394 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,160 So then when he was done, then he told the miner that they were 395 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,119 now inseparable and he betrayed him, he would kill him literally again, more 396 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,920 threats, and he repeated to him like I'm a serikiller. I kill for 397 00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:15,319 joy, and I'm good at it. I do a clean job at it. 398 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,960 Then he forced the miner to clean the floor and the walls while he 399 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,680 burned Lorenzo's ID cards and buried the rest of the body parts in the backyard. 400 00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:30,519 And then he painted the hacksaw that he had used to dismember him green 401 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,039 because he was trying to cover any paint or any blood that was left behind. 402 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,559 Then he packed up his things and left the rental home. But then 403 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:41,599 I guess he didn't have like anywhere to go, because then he came back 404 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:45,200 and threatened the boy again to like find him somewhere to stay because he needed 405 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,000 somewhere to stay. So the boy took him to one of his friends, 406 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,200 Hesu's Bias, and Andres asked if he could stay for a couple of days, 407 00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:57,279 and Hesus agreed, Oh my god. And he had no idea what 408 00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:03,519 was in store what he was let into his house, so he took him 409 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:08,440 in. Hesus Bayez lived with his brother Fernando. And this is all one 410 00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:14,920 block away from where he killed Lorenzo. Yeah, this is all went straight 411 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,359 away, like went straight over. And so Hesus Vayez lived with his brother 412 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,400 Fernando because Hissu's had suffered a bad accident a couple of years back, so 413 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:29,559 he lost both of his legs and Fernando happily supported him financially, helped his 414 00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:33,319 brother. This was no like even though it was hard for them to get 415 00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:36,519 by, he was there for his brother. He didn't resent his brother for 416 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:37,880 it. He was like, I'm just I'm here to help. And they 417 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:44,960 lived together. So during the early hours of December twelfth, Issu's, Fernando, 418 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:49,680 Andres, and Danielle, they were all drinking at the house. Danielle 419 00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:55,359 and Andres started to argue and they in fight, and we know you know, 420 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,839 from the rest of what we've been through here, Andres is violent as 421 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:05,359 fuck. So he grabbed a rock and he smashed Daniette's head in repeatedly, 422 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,519 like until he killed them in front of everyone. Yeah, in front of 423 00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:15,680 everyone. Oh wow, and Andres he threatened to kill everyone who remained there, 424 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,000 so the miner and the two brothers if they said anything. But the 425 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,079 next day, Fernando he was like, no, this is super fucked up, 426 00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:27,160 we need to say something. He confronted Andres, and he asked him 427 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,480 to leave their house, like he didn't want him there anymore, understandably, 428 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:34,799 so he just murdered someone in their house and their friend. Yeah. This 429 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,039 however, made Andres very angry. He went and grabbed a hammer and attacked 430 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:43,119 Fernando repeatedly in the head and the same thing, same thing as everyone else, 431 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,759 until he died. And then he served his body into a cooler under 432 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:52,119 some floor tiles, and then he covered the area with cement and placed a 433 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,039 drawer on top of it. And this is again in front of that other 434 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,920 miner who he had already abused. His sus wasn't home for this. We 435 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,440 don't know where he went, but he was gone he came back to the 436 00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:07,200 house and he started asking like, well, where's my brother. And Andres 437 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,880 told him that he left, he abandoned him. He didn't want to take 438 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,160 care of anymore. He would never do that, Yeah, he would, 439 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:17,440 he would not. But Andres or sorry Hissus believed Andres for some reason. 440 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,039 But I mean, I would imagine he's maybe already in a vulnerable spot, 441 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,920 thinking like, my brother doesn't want what to be taken care of me, 442 00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:29,200 So like maybe maybe it wasn't hard for him to believe. But no, 443 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:34,519 I mean, Andres had killed him, and Andres had murdered Fernando in front 444 00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,359 of that same miner. After this happened, it's when the miner went to 445 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,960 the police, and so, you know, told them everything that happened, 446 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,440 and this information came to light and so, and you know, eventually a 447 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:51,960 leading to Andres's arrest. When Andres was in custody, police learned that these 448 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:55,440 three were not his only crimes. He had a long history of inviting men 449 00:33:55,519 --> 00:34:00,519 to drink to drugs with him, and then he would be them until they 450 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:06,079 were unconscious and then he would rape them. But at some point it was 451 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,320 like he hit them too far until they were dead, and so that's when 452 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,960 he started killing. So it was the person before Lorenz. So he was 453 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,599 going to do the normal thing he always did, bring them back to his 454 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:22,360 house to drugs rape them, but instead he killed this person who remains anonymous 455 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,000 to this day. His name is not released. And so that was not 456 00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:30,239 his only victim. He was experienced with dismembering with the hacks. Ang like 457 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,760 he knew what he was doing, and he would leave their body parts in 458 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,519 abandoned houses or empty lots in that same neighborhood. Half the time, he 459 00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:44,159 didn't even bother burying them. He just left them there. Wow. And 460 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:49,280 apparently he always left some kind of toy or car or like that tricycle at 461 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,239 the scene. That's weird. It's yeah, it's very disturbing. He later 462 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,599 told police that he did it because he was violated as a child and that's 463 00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,719 why he left toys behind. It just sounds like some bullshit he made made 464 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,599 it. Yeah. Yeah, So Andres was eventually linked to twelve bodies. 465 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,800 They just like matched them. He didn't admit like he was guilty of all 466 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,599 of these, but they matched the exact mom of the three that you know 467 00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:17,559 were for sure him they had toys around them. They were dismembered. So 468 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,639 October tewod two thousand nine, Jose Manuel Chavira Olivas. He was found with 469 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:29,679 the bash skull and then his legs were dismembered. Three years after that, 470 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,880 April third, twenty twelve, Gustavo Adrian Saldanas. He was found dismembered. 471 00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:40,480 Two years after that, two more bodies were found that are unidentified but the 472 00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:47,400 same mom May eighth, twenty fifteen Gillermo Juarez Portigo. His body was found 473 00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:52,360 with a blunt force trauma to the head and again dismembered. August third, 474 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,800 twenty fifteen, Gabriel Garcia et Nandez. His body was found in the same 475 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,559 situation as the the rest of them. August seventh, twenty fifteen, Miguel 476 00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:09,559 Angel Castillo. He was found again same mo. Then on September sixth fifteen, 477 00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:15,440 Jose Urias Ernandez. He was found under some rocks in a warehouse. 478 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:22,239 And then after that then we have Lorenzo Ernesto Olivas, Danielle Fonso Rodriguez, 479 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:29,920 and Fernando Bayes. And Andres was tried and found guilty for there are three 480 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,679 murders because there was enough evidence to link back to Andres. Plus he had 481 00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:37,760 confessed to the three and there was a witness, the boy, and so 482 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,559 yeah, he was found guilty. He's serving a one hundred twenty year sentence 483 00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:52,239 and this came to be known as El this guert Sador Squirti, the Squertis 484 00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:57,199 de Chijuawa or the Chijuawa Rapper in English. Well, that was awful. 485 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,920 That was terrible. You know what this reminds me of? There might be 486 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,039 a delay. By the way, guys, Sorry, did you guys hear 487 00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:07,519 the case that just came out where I think this guy had the bodies of 488 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:10,000 six women in his apartment in Mexico. I don't know if it was in 489 00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:15,719 Mexico, but I just remember that he had like six women women's bodies in 490 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,320 his apartment, and he went to the neighbor's house, who was a miner. 491 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,039 He raped her, then killed her, and he walked out of the 492 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:28,400 apartment. And the mom she was coming home and saw this guy coming out 493 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:35,039 of her apartment, and you know, she's like, what the fuck are 494 00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:37,320 you doing there? Like my daughter's like, you know there, and then 495 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,280 he ends up slashing the mom's throat. The mom survives, She calls the 496 00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:46,599 police or whatever, and you know, sadly the daughter didn't survive, but 497 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:52,039 the mom did and they go into this guy's apartment and it's like bodies of 498 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:57,320 women. Wow. I didn't hear about it. It was a teenager that 499 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,639 he killed, right, and then sliced the mother. I just saw that 500 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,840 like this week, and I was like, that is horrible. But it 501 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:07,159 goes back to the thing where like men who hate women and disgusting. I 502 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:10,880 don't remember where it was because I just remember hearing it like a TikTok about 503 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,440 it, but they didn't say Mexico or anything. Mexico City, his Ulisa's 504 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,039 lada. Oh wow, I just found it his name and yeah, six 505 00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:24,679 remains including schools, found in his apartment in Mexico City. Mm hmm. 506 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:30,960 It's horrible. Wow. But I want to know how like people didn't question 507 00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:34,400 the smell. I'm telling you, if there was a dead body in on 508 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,079 Crater where we used to live in Modesto, I wouldn't have known. I 509 00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:42,239 wouldn't have smelled bad. Yeah. I don't know, like areas where there's 510 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,639 like sewage, but I feel like sewage smells different than a rotten corpse because 511 00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:52,000 rotten corpse has a very distance. I mean I never smell the running corps. 512 00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:55,519 I just know like they have bad I had a oh my god, 513 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,760 what is that? The thing's exploratorium. I don't know if you guys ever 514 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,039 want there, but it's in San Francisco. It's like that science museum. 515 00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:07,360 I've been there, but I don't. They have this rotting rat corpse there, 516 00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,719 like so you can smell what what the smell of rot smells like. 517 00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:15,000 It is very distinct, like you you know, so you would know, 518 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,840 you would know like it is. It is to me worse than sewage almost. 519 00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:27,400 I think it's it's a very distinct smell and it smells like have you 520 00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:30,639 like okay, like this is gonna sound terrible. And I'm and also as 521 00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:36,280 someone who worked in the veterinary field, you know when when something is meat 522 00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:43,760 and it's rotting, it has a very distinct smell because it because like it's 523 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,559 immediate gag. Like it's like immediate throw up. Like sewage you can kind 524 00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:51,239 of be like, oh the smells, but with rotting meat, it's like 525 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,400 immediate vomiting. It smells so bad, you know what I think it could 526 00:39:54,440 --> 00:40:00,679 be since these were like impoverished areas that were like dangerous are rad there's probably 527 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,559 like a culture of not reporting anything to the authorities and to the police, 528 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,679 and so probably like neighbors among themselves like what the fuck is that smell? 529 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:13,880 But they didn't like report it to anyone kinda Yeah, you know what this 530 00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:17,880 reminded me of was actually Jeffrey Dahmer. Yeah, that's what I was gonna 531 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:23,480 say. You know, where people smell things. Yeah, but they were 532 00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:28,440 like, because for me, if I smell meat, it's immedia throw up. 533 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,400 When you smell rotted meat, Oh my god, it smells it's it's 534 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,079 a punch to the sensus. No, it probably goes back to what Carmen 535 00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,920 was saying, where they maybe they smelled it. But also I know for 536 00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:40,679 the one, not the apartment guy, but this guy that we just covered, 537 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,000 it was abandoned places, so there was already not people walking through there 538 00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:47,280 and see that what I understand, because you'd be like, oh, it's 539 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,440 a rotting like it's a dead cat or a dead dog or some shit. 540 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,440 But like, right, if you smelled it, if you live in an 541 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,679 apartment and you smelled that, oh I'd be I'd be so pissed. I'm 542 00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,480 like, how are you gonna make the entire apartment complex like shit worse than 543 00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,960 shit? Yeah? Yeah, no, that's true. I mean I feel 544 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,760 like maybe somehow it was confined to his apartment or he I know, I 545 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,159 did read some of them were like down to bones. So what he did 546 00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,159 maybe like he had him somewhere, let him raw and then and brought him 547 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:22,679 Yeah exactly. Yeah, you never know with these depraved as people or like 548 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,039 some kind of fridge type stuff. I don't know, but yeah, yeah, 549 00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:31,039 because in California, there's another case in San Diego. A marine of 550 00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:35,960 course, know how to say that. No, it was a sailor. 551 00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:38,559 It was a navy, shady guy, so my bad. Yeah, I 552 00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:44,480 take it back, Marines. I'm sorry a little bit. So I joke. 553 00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:45,960 I joke. I was in the army, So that's okay. Anyway, 554 00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:50,480 before anyone leaves me like a one star review for Hidden on Marines. 555 00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:57,880 But no, this guy had killed his wife and he put her in a 556 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,320 freezer for two years and there was no smell with that. Well yeah, 557 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:06,360 because it's in the freezer. Yeah. And then and then he was just 558 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,880 gonna move and he like threw her into a body of water where she washed 559 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,760 up obviously, and that's how more investigating by her name was Elizabeth Rix. 560 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,880 I want to say, there's actually an episode of true Scary Story where someone 561 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:25,159 lived in that same neighborhood and they said it was haunted and they were see 562 00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:29,639 things and they think and they didn't even know that that was like the actual 563 00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:32,039 case. They just heard about it from living there. So if anyone wants 564 00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:36,000 to check that out a true scare story, it's like the Thing at the 565 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,360 Stairs or something. That's the name of the episode. Very creepy though, 566 00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:42,719 but yeah, like sometimes you just don't know and like who these people around 567 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,320 you are either so very I don't know. Like there's two stories. Sorry, 568 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:52,440 there's that story of that high ranking officer I think here in California that 569 00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:57,519 was caught being a pedophile. Did you see that, the one vaguely a 570 00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:02,280 California officer that was military. The officer is no, no, no, 571 00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:06,159 no no no. He was in the he's a high ranking military actually not 572 00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:13,760 officer official, and he was caught trying to in in in a sting operation, 573 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,199 trying to uh meet up with this mom. I don't think the mom 574 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:22,440 ever existed, but the he contacted this quote unquote mom probably like an agent 575 00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:27,320 pretending to be a mom and was trying to get like by her children. 576 00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:34,000 And the video was circulating where the the the what is it called the camp 577 00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:37,119 the camera that they have the police officers have. My brain went blank, 578 00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:40,360 bodycare the body camp where they catch him. He takes out a gun and 579 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,079 he starts shooting at the officers and then the officers just completely just unload on 580 00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:50,159 him. But he was a high ranking official. And then they go in 581 00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:55,079 like this whole like scrutiny of the United States military and the men who do 582 00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,199 well, Okay, we have a whole episode on oh yeah women in the 583 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:06,079 military. So yeah, I mean like so with like children obviously, because 584 00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:13,400 like women obviously if women are victims children and then which was disgusting but not 585 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,079 to be sound like a total psycho, but the video was satisfying because I 586 00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:22,119 hate people who I hate. I hate, Like there's like this thing like 587 00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:27,360 I will never ever not hate a child Abezier, like ever, like they 588 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,760 get they're like the only people that I think deserve all the hate in the 589 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,880 world. Maybe some other ones, but mostly them because like children. But 590 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,320 anyways, there's that one and then there's the other story where the father there 591 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:45,000 was this guy and his family were going on vacation and during I think that, 592 00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:47,320 you know how you put the luggage in the X ray, they found 593 00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:52,599 bullets and it was enough bullets for his whole family, and he got arrested. 594 00:44:52,679 --> 00:44:55,000 Oh, and they're like asking to bring him back because he was arrested 595 00:44:55,039 --> 00:45:01,480 in another country, Like you dumb, he was gonna kill you. Yeah. 596 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,079 Yeah, they made it sound like it was like a tiny like one 597 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,880 one bullet m when they reported these headlines and like this country, you can't 598 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:14,440 even you can't even wear camouflage clothing because it's illegal. Yeah, but but 599 00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:19,000 it's like you really think that they magically appeared in a suitcase like that and 600 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,719 also happened to be the number of bullets he would need for his entire family, 601 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,119 Like come on, be real, very suspicious. Yeah, And they're 602 00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:30,800 trying to compare it to the basketball player who was arrest detained in Russia. 603 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:37,960 I'm like doing, she had drugs, not weapons, bullets, And it's 604 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,360 like she's ingesting it into herself. She was not gonna hurt, Like there's 605 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,559 there's nothing that she had on her that would have hurt somebody else. She 606 00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:49,320 was not gonna murder her whole family exactly. And then like the wife was 607 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,760 all crying, like girl, they just these people just saved your life, 608 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,360 Like be so serious you were gonna die, like he was gonna kill and 609 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,039 your children, Like are you stupid? It was like what would I say 610 00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:05,440 with people like are you stupid? Or are you dumb? Well, maybe 611 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,119 there's a history of control and violence there. True, and we know that 612 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:20,679 domestic violence is very complex and it takes woman victims people, you know, 613 00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:27,679 several attempts and not only attempts, but it takes them time years sometimes to 614 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,840 realize that you know, there's you know, being abused and controlled. So 615 00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:36,840 that's a good point, Karen, always being the voice of reason. You 616 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:43,960 do what I can whenever we're being complete psychos. He's facing like six years 617 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,880 in jail. I think a lot and not but I think that the mom 618 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,159 should really like maybe this will be like an eye opening experience. Maybe she'll 619 00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:59,039 have some time, you know now that her maybe allegedly now that her brain 620 00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:04,920 has time to to reconfigure, you know, you know, like when you 621 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,280 when you're in survival mode, you don't notice like things right like you know, 622 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,840 as they say, your lid is flipped. Yeah, hopefully she'll notice, 623 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,360 like I guess maybe like how calm it is and she's not always anxious, 624 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,679 and that'll be on it because because yes, it could be a coincidence, 625 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:28,360 but the percentage of that I think is really low. I think he 626 00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:32,519 was planning on hurting his family. That's my opinion. Yeah, like it 627 00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:38,079 makes sense, like it wouldn't be shocking at all, It wouldn't surprise anyone. 628 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,159 Yeah no, yeah, not at all. Okay, we're gonna take 629 00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:47,480 a quick at break. Okay, well we have reached the end of our 630 00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:52,679 episode. Do either of you have any speaky recommendation. I think there's a 631 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,719 new season of Paranormal Cotton Camera. I'm not entirely sure, but it's either 632 00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:00,960 already out or gonna come out. Yeah, either one. Because I remember 633 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,159 a listener messaged me and I was like, oh, MJ will be so 634 00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:06,920 excited for this. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna like go check that out. 635 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,079 Like once we're done, I'm gonna clean and watch, well cook and 636 00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:15,800 watch paranormal co on camera. Nice, I have one. I have it 637 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:21,440 right here. Oh yeah, I forgot. We bought that. Yeah, 638 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,639 oh, you bought it too. I keep forgetting you also bought it. 639 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:30,079 Yeah, well, a book with short stories, and there's a short story 640 00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:36,280 for each Lotteria like character. So that means there's fifty four short stories in 641 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:43,000 this book Loteria by Cynthia. And I don't I don't really, I don't 642 00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:45,920 read short stories that much, but I like them like anthology. Yeah, 643 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,400 yeah, I don't like dislike them. I just don't often reach for them. 644 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,000 But I do have like a few other short story like books in my 645 00:48:54,639 --> 00:49:00,639 collection. Yeah, I didn't think of the word. And yeah, so 646 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,920 I mean I've only I'm in chapter eleven, which I mean, it's not 647 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,199 really chapters, because right, they're all separate. You're in. Yeah, 648 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:16,519 I'm in the eleventh story of this skyscraper book now. And anyway, the 649 00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:25,440 second short story is based on the character. But it's about doing this and 650 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,480 it is so scary, I feel like so far, and that is like 651 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:36,599 the most one dude. If you yeah, it'll terrify you. I have 652 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,920 no strong feelings about doing this, and now I strongly dislike them and afraid 653 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,559 of them. I've been telling y'all, they're fucking creepy. They scare the 654 00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:47,800 ship out of me, like I can't even watch a picture without freaking out, 655 00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:52,079 Like no, yeah, well this story would like yeah, it was 656 00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:54,360 scary. Also send us you're doing this story is so we can have another 657 00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:00,000 one the episode and scare me or don't know or don't I do actually do 658 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,280 so. Yeah, I recommend this book, Okay, I can't wait to 659 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,800 read it. I do not have any spooky recommendations because I have had no 660 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,679 free time and when I do, because I should be doing other things, 661 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,719 but I'm putting them off. I've been playing Starry Valley and I started putting 662 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,800 de Grossi in the background. Oh my god. I've been seeing a lot 663 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,079 of digressing content lately for whatever reason, and it keeps popping up on my 664 00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:24,760 TikTok. So I was like, okay, fine, I'll rewatch the Grassy. 665 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,239 Don't force me it just it reminds me of how much I love Manny. 666 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,599 She was my favorite person ever in the show, and it didn't matter 667 00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:42,320 what she did. I am a Manny apologist just like. It's because I 668 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,760 thought she was a Latina for the long time, so I was like, 669 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:51,199 my Latina queen, she's a Latina adjacent. Did you watch the grassy I 670 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,840 did not. Okay, so no idea, but if you see Manny you'll 671 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,840 be like, yes, yeah, if you see Manny you would agree. 672 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,800 Yeah. Also, I hated it. God, what Emma is her name? 673 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,239 Emma is a bitch, right, Emma's the fucking word Page. No, 674 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,800 actually, Liberty grew on me. Yeah, No, Page is fine. 675 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,199 She was the one with Craig for the longest time, and then with 676 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:20,360 Drake after Jimmy Ashley. Jimmy Ashley. I didn't like it. Yeah, 677 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,199 she was fucking annoying. Okay, okay, And then I was gonna say 678 00:51:23,199 --> 00:51:27,920 one more thing. There's a movie I've been wanting to watch called Where Evil 679 00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,320 Lurks. It's on Hulu now, so I will probably check that out. 680 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,480 And that might be my sweaky recommendation. Other than that, our book Club 681 00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:38,960 episode right now is the scienda, So you know, read that so that 682 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,280 you can be ready for whenever we finish it, which might be a while, 683 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,719 you never know. That's why it's the Speak Tells book Club for busy 684 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:51,199 people. And yeah, others than not, I think those are the only 685 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,039 updates, all right. In that case, I don't know, take the 686 00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:58,760 level of your life over to that cute little plaza. I was gonna say 687 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:04,440 the same thing. I love it, and yeah, stay a spooky We'll 688 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:10,039 catch everyone next time. Bye Bye. Spooky Tales is hosted by Christina and 689 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,800 MJ, produced and edited by Christina. Everything is written and researched by Christina 690 00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:21,280 MJ and with the help of Don Shout Out Don. Thank you so much 691 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,559 for your help. If you love what you hear, consider living us a 692 00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:29,400 five star review. If you don't, then do not leave us anything please. 693 00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:32,800 If you want short spooky stories, follow us on TikTok at spooky Taels. 694 00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:37,159 You can also find some of the same videos posted on Instagram and that 695 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,280 is at spooky Taels. Everything is linked in the show notes. 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