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I'm gonna start off the Minnesota Goodbye
was something that I wasn't even sure that

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I wanted to bring up on the
Minnesota Goodbye or on the radio. So

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tell me your thoughts on this one. Yeah. So we're at the lake.

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We're on Minnaweshta. I think this
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on Sad it doesn't matter, Saturday
or Sunday. We're at the lake and

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we're out on our little kayak and
we bought this inflatable kayak and it's awful

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because it doesn't give you any back
support, so you can't lean up against

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the backrest, so you have to
lean all the way back, which means

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your head wants to go back,
so you have to hold your head up.

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And it was awful. Yeah.
So we're out there and we're trying

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to make the most of it whatever, and we saw something really weird and

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this is what I hesitated to bring
up. So there's a swimming area at

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Minnaweshta Beach and it'll come up to
like the average adults waste okay, And

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there's a guy who was definitely grandpa
with his granddaughter and they were splashing around

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and wrestling and having fun and whatever. And then Susan and I we weren't

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trying to watch, but this granddaughter
was probably about ten, grandpa was sixty

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five ish, and he would pick
the girls so she's facing him, and

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he would pick the girl up with
his hands under her butt, under her

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thighs and like kind of swinger around, and it was weird and creepy and

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inappropriate, and Susan said something.
First, she said, Okay, that's

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creepy, and I said, yeah, he looks creepy, and because he's

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full body contact with his hand under
his granddaughter's but I'm gonna guess a granddaughter

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could have been anybody, and they're
kind of the need thrower in the water.

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And then she'd get back up and
she was giggling because she's ten and

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she didn't know that it was inappropriate. But there's no fucking way that guy

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didn't know. You don't pick up
a ten year old boy or girl that

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way facing you, so their legs
are wrapped around you. So it wasn't

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like we were going to say anything. I mean, there's no way we

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were going to paddle and say,
hey, you know what, we don't

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know you, We don't know your
situation. But we don't like what you're

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doing. Yeah, so what do
you I mean, were we I'm not

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asking were we wrong? Not to
say anything, but what are your thoughts?

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There's no way that was like that. He didn't realize that's not right.

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Am I wrong? Are you sure
that a girl's ten, because that

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does seem very old for them to
like beholding eight or ten. Eight or

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ten, yeah, kind of like
equated to my niece's four, and I

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was like carrying her around this week. Percent yes, because that's what I

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said. I said when Alison and
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you bet, But because it's not
weird when they're little. I remember when

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Carson was two, he hated taking
a bath or a shower, so I

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would have to get in the shower
and hold little naked Carson and wash him.

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And I would hold him like up
against my side, under his bare

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butt and wash him. But he
was two. There was nothing creepy about

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it that kid needed a shower.
But there's an age where it's like you

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don't do that. There definitely is
an age. I think that some families,

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though, are just a little bit
more unique in that way. Because

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I was at a wedding in the
last couple of years where the father of

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the bride was giving this really long
speech yea and telling all these stories of

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the things he used to do.
And he talked about like pinching his daughter's

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butt in it, and it made
me really uncomfortable. I was like it

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was like the kind of like punchline
of the story, Like she always loved

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it because I go up and I'd
like, pinch your butt afterwards, and

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that was like your thing. And
then he'd like say something in like a

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baby voice. And to be at
like thirty two years old, like if

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my dad was saying that about me, I'd be like, ter stop it,

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even if like that was something we
give here a little. So I

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just think that, like some families
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touchy, but it's very loving,
you know, in that way. There's

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a skit on Saturday Night Live that
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family whenever they like go to to
mom and Dad's house, they kiss each

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other like long on the you know
that when you've seen it, right.

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And I remember when I was dating
a girl back in Ohio long ago,

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I went to her house and her
brother come in and her dad was there,

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and her dad and her brother adult
brother twenty kissed Dad on the lips,

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and I was mortified, horrified.
I was like, oh, because

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in my family, we didn't even
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the lips. We hugged my mom, My mom would kiss us on the

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cheek, but Dad it was a
handshake. And I was like, that's

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so fucked up. But you're right, to them, it was probably just

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normal. So maybe I overreacted to
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brought it up, because to me, in my family, no way what

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I would have had ten year old
Allison or a nine year old Beth straddle

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me almost naked in a swimsuit.
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not saying you're overreacting at all.
I'm sure it was like uncomfortable to most

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people seeing it, but to them, like I said, it, probably

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it's just like their families like that. Like my family was leaving for the

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weekend to go back home to Wisconsin
because they were visiting, and I went

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and gave my niece and nephew a
hug and stuff, and then I went

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to like try to give everyone else
a hug and my family's just not a

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hugging family. But I'm a hugger. Yeah, And so they even brought

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it up. They're like, what
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huggers, and I was like,
well, I am so get used to

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it. I'm gonna hug you all. Yeah. My dad a few years

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before he died, he was never
a hugger. I said, I'm gonna

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give you a hug anyway, Dad, I'm gonna give you a hug.

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And then he would kind of like
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back kind of a hug. Ava. My granddaughter is coming up on three

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and I went over there yesterday and
for a little cookout for Memorial Day.

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And when I left, Alison,
her mom said, give Grandpa. She

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calls me Peepa, which is horrible, Give peepa hug. And Ava came

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over and gave me a hug.
But I know that you're not supposed to

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ask kids to hug people. If
the kid wants to, that's great,

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But I think that there's it's kind
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Don't have the expectation that your kids
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to hug, but she gladly did. She loves me. It's so funny

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because she is at that age when
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the minute I walked in the door, she climbed up on my lap and

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she wanted to show me a book
that makes noises, and then she wanted

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to show me this, and then
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with her. So all right,
moving on to the emails. This one

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said trigger warning. And I missed
all week of shows last week because I

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was in the hospital. I had
a miscarriage. I'm so sorry to hear

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that. Listening to you guys and
catching up has made me feel more normal

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and has helped me a ridiculous amount. Thank you for being helping me forget

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about the seriousness and realness of the
world around me. It's a break that

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I needed and appreciate it. I
find so much joy in being able to

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laugh at something when everything in my
life seems to suck. That is Jenny

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from Arizona. Jenny, I'm glad
you listened all the way in Arizona.

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I'm sorry you've gone through that,
and I hear you sometimes everything in life

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seems to suck. This happens,
Then this happens, Then this happens.

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Just know that it'll get better.
Right now, Chase is going through some

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shit. My son Chase, and
he has overworked and life has thrown a

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lot of stuff, and he's trying
to close up his mom's estate because his

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mom died last November. And he
said, I said, I said,

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is there anything I can do for
you? Said, just give me some

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good advice and support. And I
said, it'll get better. I said,

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right now, it sucks, but
it will get better when work slows

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down and life slows down, and
you're only going to have to close out

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your mom's estate one time. You're
only going to have to close her bank

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account and her credit cards one time, then things will get better. So

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I would say the same thing to
you, Jenny, is that things will

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get better, all right. Next
one, I have a favor to ask.

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I actually want to say this for
the air, but I'll go ahead

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and read this as I started.
I'm a girl fairly young but not too

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young. In your next War of
the Roses, when you talk to Jonathan

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Fogel, could you please please tell
him there's a young girl named Sophie in

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Minnesota that wants to be a family
lawyer. I would be so happy to

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hear that. I'm a huge fan
of War the Roses listen every single episode.

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Thanks so much, your biggest fan, Sophie. I will I will

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pass that along to him. That's
very nice. Next one I haven't been

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able to and this is again for
more for the morning show, but just

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to follow it up, there was
a guy who called in last week said

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that he got dumped by his girlfriend
of eight years. She was tired of

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waiting. What could he do to
get her back? And so we talked

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about that for a little bit.
She said, basically that happened to me

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too, but I was the woman. I made a life altering change in

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my life by losing a hundred and
sixty five pounds, and I cracked out

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of my shell in order to find
out who I was and who I really

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wanted to be with to make me
happy. I feel like when I met

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the first guy, I wanted love
so bad. I wanted to have a

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boyfriend so bad, and he did
want the same things I did. But

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basically time went on and she lost
the physical attraction, and then basically it

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gave her an opportunity to meet her
person out of the blue, when she

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wasn't even looking for a relationship.
I had truly found love within myself and

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grew to love who I am.
I feel you can't let someone love you

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until you can love yourself. So
maybe we can have her at Shout.

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Her should be on the show,
so maybe we can have her on sometime

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next One we were talking about the
State Fair preview. I think it was

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last weekend. I was, well, yeah, it was last weekend.

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Yeah, And I said, I
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but I don't want to hear about
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season. The same way I don't
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the Fairest Special, but I don't
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approaching State Fair time. So Christie
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in good humor, but the kickoff
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great, small crowd, free parking, lots of great food, in music.

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I found a new a few food
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the actual State Fair because it's so
big, in so many and so many

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options. I went Thursday. They
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and it was nice to be able
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sit listen to music. Although I
definitely understand where you're coming from. I

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have family that grew up going to
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Then I did it, and now
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watch my nieces show their animals.
Love you all from Christie, so you

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know I'll stick with that. I
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time. It's cool that they do
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stuff. Until August, I know, we were giving away Jonas Brothers tickets

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all weekend for the State Fair,
and I was on on Sunday and I

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was like, man, I just
I kept saying. I was like,

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I don't want to be talking about
the State Fair right now, but here

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are your tickets for Jonas Brothers.
It's no kidding because it's still like it's

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literally it's going to be going on
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August, three months away from the
fair. Okay, last one checking

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for time we're doing okay. I
wanted to respond to the woman whose husband

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is having a hard time connecting with
her newborn, as her story sounds a

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lot like mine. A few weeks
ago, we were talking with somebody whose

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husband cannot connect. No, it
was two guys, right, it was

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two guys, and one guy was
a couple of weeks ago. Now yep,

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and he doesn't connect with the baby, even though they both really wanted

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a baby. The first couple of
weeks, my husband and I were both

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on cloud nine after bringing our daughter
home. I really thought things couldn't get

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any better than this. But after
a few weeks there was a shift.

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He had a very hard time dealing
with her crying. It would instantly shift

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his mood and would completely disconnect and
shut down and even get angry. I

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would try to help and explain ways
of bonding with her at such a young

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age, but he didn't want to
hear it and thought it was a bunch

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of crap I was picking up from
the internet. Oh, a bunch of

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crap that I was picking up from
the internet. We got into a few

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nasty fights about it. I had
fallen so deeply in love with our daughter,

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and I just couldn't understand how he
didn't see how amazing she was and

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how easy of a baby she really
was. Thankfully, I do have a

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therapist that I've been seeing since long
before our daughter to help me navigate this.

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She explained to me, Hey,
it's completely normal for men to have

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a harder time bonding with their baby. Men tend to need more instant gratification,

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and you don't get that from a
newborn. They are literally just little

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blobs that you need to keep alive
for the first six or so months.

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Then they start to gain a little
personality and they smile and they make eye

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contact. Yeah, our daughter is
now ten months old. That's gotten better.

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She is so much more responsive and
playful. He still has such a

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hard time when she cries, but
he is able to get over it much

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more quickly when she smiles or when
he makes her giggle. Even if she's

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in another room with me and he
hears her giggling, he'll stop what he's

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doing and come in so he can
be a part of the fun. One

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of our friends also had the same
issues bonding with his son when he arrives,

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so my husband did have someone he
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this, which seemed to help.
He truly was hating himself because he couldn't

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understand why he wasn't able to connect
with her and felt like thing was wrong

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with him. So having someone that
had been through it was a great support

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thing for him. Anyway, she
goes on to say, Christine, thank

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you. Also, I want to
say thank you to Dave in the whole

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Morning crew. I'm and listening to
your show for literally as long as I

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can remember. I am twenty nine
now, and my mom always had the

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Dave Ryan Show on when she would
bring us to school. I moved three

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hours north of the Cities and still
listen to you on I Heart on my

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way into work and listen to the
Minnesota Goodbuye on my way home. You

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all bring so much light and joy
to my day. Thank you so much

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for what you do, Christine.
Christine, that makes me emotional when you

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say that. And I think I
talked about last week how I get frustrated

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because I get emotional at the dumbest
things. I was trying to describe something

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as Susan this weekend and I was
getting choked up. It was something about

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I was watching a story on TV
and I don't even know these people,

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and I said, it's frustrating because
I get choked up at the dumbest things,

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and I said, I think it's
low testosterone, and so I think

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I need to go have my testosterone
checked because I get emotional at the dumbest

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things. Have you heard of that. I haven't heard of that. But

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I think that you're a sentimental and
nostalgic person and I'm pretty similar in that

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aspect too, And I think,
I mean, I don't know what you're

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talking to Susan about last weekend,
but like when you came in here and

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engineering head fixed something that was your
dad's, yeah, and you started getting

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choked up about that. I completely
understood that because your dad's no longer here

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with us, and it was something
that meant a lot to you, So

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why would you not get choked up
about something that brought back memories? But

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I should be able to describe something
without going like this, you know what

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I mean. And it's just frustrating
because I want to get the story out,

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but sometimes I can't get the story
out because I'm through and I didn't

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used to be like that. And
I think maybe it's something that's like guys

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get older, they're losing the testosterone, and you got to go down and

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get like you know, like testosterone
shots or something like that. I think

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there's nothing wrong with getting emotional.
I think that it's totally fine, because

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I struggled with that for a very
long time because I am more emotional,

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like a crying sense of things like
then some people are. And I struggled

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for a while because it made me
feel so vulnerable when I would get when

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I would cry about things that I
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And I watched some TED talks by
a woman named Brenne Brown and I believe

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it's her last name, and it
just kind of taught you how to like

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lean into that vulnerability and feel comfortable
within it. And I mean, like,

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yeah, maybe it is low test
rosterom for you, but I think

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there's also a mental aspect for it. I think the thing is for me,

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it's frustrating because I shouldn't be.
It'll be an emotional level of one

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to ten, about a two,
and here I am going and it's like

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I get frustrated because I want to
tell the story and not choke up and

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get my eyes tearing up when I'm
talking about smoking ribs, you know what

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I mean. It's like, oh, they were so good. I mean

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that might be a little bit much
of you're getting tearing up? No shit,

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So do you do you get emotional
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ish thing or out of frustration.
See, I don't cry out of frustration

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ever. I don't remember in my
life ever, and I'm sure I have

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but crying out of like and they
just were so unfair and I can't believe

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they did that. I don't get
frustrated and cried that way. I'm more

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sentimental. What about you, I
am definitely. I mean I wouldn't say

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frustrations in there. I think like
if Andrew and I have a disagreement about

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something, I will get emotional in
a crying way and he gets more like

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angry, and that's the way he
shows his emotion, and I show my

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emotion and crying, and then I
don't think logically when I'm like in that

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argument. Then so I like take
a step back and I'll be like,

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we gotta stop right now because all
I'm doing is crying and I can't like

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speak what I want to say,
so that will happen to me. But

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no, I definitely get very nostalgic. I remember my senior year of high

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school. I sat and I would
like cry because me and a group of

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friends we ran our school store.
It was a part of Decco, which

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is like marketing in high school,
and we ran this school store, and

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I would get so emotional every little
thing, like this is the last we're

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going to do this our senior year, Like this is the last time I'm

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want to see you. Guys were
all going to go out to college,

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and they would always make fun of
me because I was like kidding, cheer

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it up. And it might be
so sad about the nostalgic things. That's

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interesting that you realize that in high
school, because most people don't really get

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how high school is the end of
so much and the beginning of a lot

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too, and it doesn't dawn on
them until, like, you know,

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months later, or weeks later or
whatever, when they realize, oh my

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god, that was our last ride
on the school bus, that was our

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last lunch hour together. And I
still clearly remember my last day of high

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school and how freaking surreal it was
that it's all over, and it's bittersweet.

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It's it's sad because you are you
not coming back. You're not coming

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back. On Monday, morning.
You're not coming back tomorrow, you're not

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going to history class, you're not
going to you know, basketball practice or

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whatever. But at the same time, you're graduating from high school. So

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I think that's way more joyful for
me than it was sentiment. So anyway,

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that's it for the Minnesota goodbye.
What are your thoughts tell me about

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the guy at the lake. I
want to know about your thoughts on the

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guy at the lake. I would
have never been a Karen and said anything,

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But maybe you're like Dave, you
absolutely should have said something, or

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maybe you're like that happens in my
family is totally normal. Shut up,

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mind your own business. Maybe you
want to talk about emotions, breaking up,

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whatever you want to talk about or
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