WEBVTT 1 00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:32.479 Ladies and gentlemen. U. E three is over, twenty eleven is done. 2 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:39.320 That's the that's the cheer of some people who have been at E three. 3 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:43.679 Very exhausting, but very satisfying. It's it's been a fun show. 4 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:49.240 And this is gonna be our last night of live broadcasting and podcasting from the 5 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:53.759 Giant Bombhouse down here in La for E three twenty eleven. Uh, let's 6 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:59.719 talk to our our opening salvo of guests for the evening. Jeff Grishman's here, 7 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:02.079 Jeff, how you doing. I've gone soft in the head. Today 8 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:04.319 was the day that the bottom dropped out and I don't Yeah, I've tried 9 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.840 to, I don't have it. It was it was a slow day for 10 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.359 us. Yeah, we didn't have as it wasn't as action packed as far 11 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:15.079 as the scheduling went. And I put all of my mental focus into like 12 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:19.560 the last few pointments we had. Yeah, interviewed Ken Lavine. How to 13 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.840 keep it together for that right, Maybe not the best idea for us to 14 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.120 do to schedule our Ken Lavine an interview for like three o'clock on the store. 15 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:29.280 Really well, but yeah, we go back and watch the tape and 16 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:34.599 I'm just drooling and he's just talking. Who could say that? Seems possible. 17 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:38.359 Mark Spear is here from Game Trailers, host producer of Invisible Walls, 18 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:42.319 Marcus, how you doing, sir? I am happy East three is over, 19 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:46.480 and I was really happy until somebody tweeted there's only three hundred and sixty 20 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:49.959 one days to LENX one. That's right, boss June five. Ye, 21 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:53.640 I don't like it. As soon as you walk in you can see the 22 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:59.040 banner that says, see you next year's sucker. I want to think about 23 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:01.599 three. Hey, guys, came, was coms coming? Fuck you? 24 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:05.719 Patrick les here? Patrick, how you doing, sir? Yeah? I 25 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:09.919 haven't seen Super eight yet. We were talking this morning. Uh, like 26 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:13.840 as everyone was getting ready to mount up and go hit the floor one last 27 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:16.680 time, Like Patrick, just let's just fucking bail. Let's just go see 28 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:20.639 Super Eight's planned arc by at Hollywood. There's like an eleven forty showing. 29 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:23.120 Let's started crying and You're like, dude, stop saying this to me, 30 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:27.360 Stop telling me these things. You're gonna see that when we get back to 31 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.479 San Francisco. Yeah, you have to. You have to wait till Sunday. 32 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:32.240 There. I gonna wait till Sunday. So but you know, at 33 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:35.520 this point, I didn't see it at midnight, which is would would been 34 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:38.639 my my my choice for that. So this point, you know, I'm 35 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:42.360 alright with wait until so I'm just gonna start texting you on like Saturday. 36 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:45.039 I'm gonna see it then and just like, oh man, this part was 37 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:50.719 awesome and you will not be old, no specifics, just as you're watching. 38 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.719 Every time this part happens, just text me like this part number one, 39 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:58.639 live texting you from from when I go see Super eight. And then 40 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:04.199 this Kanye West song was in the movie. Man, I cannot escape that 41 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.439 Kanye West song. God damn it. Can you keep playing it over and 42 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:08.240 over? No no, no, no, no, no, no, 43 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:12.039 no no no, It's not me. That's Vinny Caravella is the one that 44 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.439 has that has found a crazy obsession. We've discovered that that Kanye West, 45 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:20.800 that that song Power, which was on the Forts of four trailer as well 46 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:30.919 as well as the this microphone is gonna have somebody's eyes as well as the 47 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.400 the States Or of the third trailer was was the song of the show. 48 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:38.159 And what we discovered today is that you can literally literally pair that song with 49 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:43.800 any trailer that already exists and it totally works. It's crazy excited for that 50 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:49.240 thing. It's the Giles theme of hip hop. Absolutely. Speaking of forts 51 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:51.919 of four, Brian Eckberg is in the house. What's up. How's going, 52 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:54.439 sir? It's been it has been a while since I've seen you. 53 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:58.759 Year. Yeah, yeah, most year. The one thing I wanted to 54 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:00.520 tell tell I'm gonna break the conversation here because I got to talk to Ryan 55 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.479 Davis about this. Okay first, before we continue on, please, I 56 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:08.080 was thinking of you because as I was heading over here, I realized that 57 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:11.560 the one thing that you and I love the most in the world is here 58 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:14.719 in LA. Moved from San Francisco, and that is now in LA. 59 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:16.759 Do you know who I'm referring to? What's that? Evelyn Taft? That's 60 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:21.000 right. She is the weather girl here in LA. That's right, that's 61 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:26.040 right, weather girls watching as a Channel nine. She's on CBS now, 62 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.639 so yeah, you can, you can? You only. Evelyn Taft was 63 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.879 the weather girl for for Krown, for the the former NBC affiliate in San 64 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:41.959 Francisco, and just a beguiling weather girl presence, charming, yeah, absolutely 65 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.480 extremely charming. And then it was. It was crestfallen is the word I 66 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:51.160 would use to describe when it was. When when it was learned that Evelyn 67 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:55.959 Taft was packing up and heading to a larger market and actually getting a proper 68 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.319 network job and doing the weather here in La, it's like, oh, 69 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:01.639 no, she seen her? Have you seen her lately? No? No, 70 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:05.120 they totally tanned her out, and she's all like, she's like blonde 71 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:10.639 bimbo. Now she's totally la having lived in San Francisco for a year and 72 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:15.040 then coming down here as a totally shallow PERVT. I fucking love all the 73 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:19.959 hot women, but maybe anything like that, but it's like there stealing our 74 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:25.720 that we're down here already, that we're making them hot. I don't know. 75 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:29.240 She don't you lose enough like Kansas girls off the bus. You gotta 76 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:32.639 go to California too, seriously, steal our water and you're stealing our women. 77 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:38.920 I'm from Britain, fair enough. They've never seen the sun there, 78 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:43.240 so you're just happy to see any sort of skin, skin before it gets 79 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:47.720 melanoma. Indeed, indeed, Braneckberg, such a thrill to have you here. 80 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:50.360 It's great to be back, great to see you guys, how how 81 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:55.079 was your show? What were you doing for for forts of while you're here? 82 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:58.959 Well, I'm a community manager with Turn ten, so along with the 83 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:00.600 rest of the guys from ten, we were showing off what's the four man? 84 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:04.120 Happy to show that game off. You guys saw the trailer. I'm 85 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:08.560 not gonna talk too much about the trailer because who knows where it could go, 86 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:13.040 But we were really happy by that trailer because we were super stove. 87 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:16.160 We've been working super hard on the game. It's true, and I mean 88 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:23.439 I don't It's not a negative Kanye thing is effectively, Yes, absolutely, 89 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:26.480 it's It's just one of those. It ended up becoming the the kind of 90 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.720 de facto song of the show for us. It has been stuck in everyone's 91 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:32.920 head in this house for the duration of the show since the press conference. 92 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:40.839 Looks pretty good with the tan you like, oh Jesus Christ on a bike? 93 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:45.160 Wow? Damn Yeah, we have a phrase in the UK mocks out 94 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:50.480 of ten. I'd give a one. Chris Tilton is here from Chris Tilton. 95 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:59.680 Hello, music from Chris Tilton from TV's Fringe. Chris Tilton is in 96 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.319 the house us, and I think it's worth noting here that it is the 97 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:06.920 last day of E three and it is Chris Tilton's birthday, so happy the 98 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:11.600 best birthday ever. Having happy birthday to to Chris Tilton. Did did you 99 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:14.079 get to see some fun stuff at the show today, sir? I saw 100 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:16.639 some awesome stuff today, but I would like to have the first thing I 101 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:20.319 did, uh, the first day that I got here was go play Forts 102 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:25.279 of four on the good hydraulic thing. Yes, free screens. Can you 103 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:28.560 know what the best part about it was? Yes? So free? Yeah, 104 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:32.519 totally totally free, no problem. So let's let's ballpark that like that 105 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:38.279 rigs impressive, the three screens, the rollcage, the wheel, the tilt 106 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:42.399 stuff. Let's let's ball screens plus three xbox three xboxes. Yees so, 107 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:46.000 three copies of Forts and four three xboxes, three screens, a computer to 108 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:47.920 run the chair. You got it, You got it, and then alive 109 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:55.160 Kanye West. That's right. It was weird. I had to do all 110 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:59.040 the rapping before he got there. It's not as kind of click ye saw 111 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:07.040 the game before the show started. It was just like rings yeah exactly. 112 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.439 Yeah. No. We that's custom built super nuts Man, and we actually 113 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.240 have two of them because at the E three Judges event on Monday night. 114 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:18.560 We had one there as well. So we leave that one down here in 115 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.839 LA and we just pick it back up when when we come back down today. 116 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.279 Yeah, just drop it off. I can't tell you how many times 117 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:28.680 people came out to me and says, how do I where do I buy 118 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.679 that? And I'm like, you don't buy it, you build it and 119 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.440 you need many, many thousands of dollars. But we're in LA and they're 120 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.200 like, okay, what yeah, let's do it. Let's make it happen. 121 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:41.399 So that's not even something that we can we can ballpark a price on 122 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:45.639 for it, because it's it's it is something that turned ten just made. 123 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:48.399 Yeah, it's totally customed. I don't know where just I would say thousands 124 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:54.320 and thousands of dollars. I was looking at ridiculous D box chairs for you 125 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.159 know, like they would work with PC racing games and other stuff like that, 126 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.080 and it seemed like those things were up. We're it's a fourteen grand 127 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.480 just for the chair alone. Yeah, yeah, we're not talking to me 128 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:13.679 in there. Several small people for the costume murder to feed them. It's 129 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:20.320 not murder, it's just like slave labor with Dwarfs. It's movies feel so 130 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.879 much better with me, Matters, Fast five and d Box, no other 131 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.919 way to fly man. I gotta say, uh, Chris Telton, happy 132 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:33.200 birthday. Thank you, Thank you for for for for choosing to spend your 133 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.679 your birthday here or at least your evening here with us. And you brought 134 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:43.480 a bunch of beer and also some delicious homemade Jemali which was awesome, and 135 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:48.799 bacon roses and bacon roses that is courtesy of of Chris's lady friend over here. 136 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.159 She made the bacon roses. They're delicious. Well, we wouldn't have 137 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.320 her if we didn't have you, that's true. I'm gonna I'm gonna thank 138 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.720 her, but I'm also gonna thank you for bringing her so and you know 139 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.879 what's up. Thank you, Oh, thank you, Jeff. And I'm 140 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:09.320 gonna thank Alex Navarro for rounding out here are Oh you're welcome. Our couch 141 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:13.519 is here for the day. Thank you for hosting these many, many many 142 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.960 hours of podcasting that we have done here. I'm just I'm gonna stay up 143 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.799 front here. This is not gonna go as long as the other ones have 144 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:22.840 gone. I do not have it in me to sit here and it gets 145 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.200 wise. Yeah, I think that's very wise. Yeah, we gotta we 146 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:31.080 gotta pack up and roll out of La tomorrow. So so I can't I 147 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.480 can't say him till do in the morning doing this podcast, this live stream 148 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.039 again. So so you say that, now, shut up. I know 149 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.279 we have it waited. Last night we planned to be talked till two in 150 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.279 the morning. Last night was five hours. Is that five hours of actual 151 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.840 broadcasting over the course of about six six and a half hours? Uh? 152 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.320 Yeah, some some close to there on on both counts. But we've we've 153 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:56.559 been doing pretty pretty long things. But we've had a ton of amazing guests 154 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:00.720 here over the course of the reference. It's not just like because I told 155 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.320 people like, oh yeah, we went from like eight till two in the 156 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:07.000 morning, Like what's wrong with you? It's not just all of us sitting 157 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.320 there and talking. And so we've we've been rotating in a lot of amazing 158 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:15.399 guests and last night last night was just volume. There was huge fifteen people 159 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.919 in this house at some point. I that sound about right. Of Super 160 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:22.440 Giant Games, Yeah, the entirety and the entirety, almost the entirety of 161 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.919 super Giant Games, the entire Johnny V. Posse, Yeah, all our 162 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:31.360 ex Midway chucklehead friends, John Vanaki, Adam Boys, Dave Lang and Krag, 163 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:35.559 Java, Chris Charla, all these cats you know. David Jaffey was 164 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.720 here, Jonathan Blow was here, a bunch of double fine guys. Jenova 165 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.000 Chen was here last night. Uh and uh and yeah, and now it's 166 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.679 now it's you fucking guys, So carry some weight. Goddamn it. I'm 167 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:48.759 gonna go to the bathroom and check the size of my dick so I don't 168 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.240 feel totally Yeah, right, but it's this is the Internet. You just 169 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.480 break it out here. Yeah, that's right. We've gotten a rate. 170 00:11:54.519 --> 00:12:00.639 I don't want to make only on fridge cam though. Yeah, that's true. 171 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.559 You've had all these guests rotating in here, but you've stayed here the 172 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:07.759 whole time. Of all the ye you were the one. You're the man 173 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:11.799 who was endured. That's true. I've had to endure. But honestly, 174 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:16.240 having you know, six guests here, it allows me to coast. I 175 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.240 don't have to sit here and talk the entire time. They're definitely times when 176 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.240 I can just sit back and let these people bounce off of each other for 177 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.679 a while, but really it's it's Drew manning the cameras back there and making 178 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:31.840 sure the stream is dumbas backslapping when there's still a whole show to do. 179 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:35.879 No, what tonight show is? I am? I all right, thanks 180 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:41.879 for watching, Thanks for coming out. I am going to do some backslapping 181 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.720 for for for Drew and Vinian and Joey are video production crew, without whom 182 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:50.919 we would not have been able to to exec and on E three the way 183 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.679 that we have this year and in years past. But I feel like it's 184 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:58.600 it's clicked. It came together in some some really amazing ways, not just 185 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.960 with our lives streams and podcast stuff here, but you know, out on 186 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:05.039 the floor shooting stuff. It's a it's been a lot of fun. We've 187 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.879 we've seen a lot of amazing stuff and you know, we we've gotten a 188 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:11.679 lot of great coverage and they've they've helped us encapsulate and capture that stuff. 189 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.840 So I definitely want to give them their propers So Drew, thank you. 190 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.799 And they can't hear me, but because they're in the back fucking room right 191 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:24.639 now cutting together more goddamn videos for us, so h so Joey and Vinny. 192 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.600 I want to rotate all of them through here at some point, so, 193 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.279 uh, so we can talk to them about their experience, because I'll 194 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:33.480 run the switch anytime, because you know, we like we we we spread 195 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:35.840 out as a as a team, and you know, we're seeing different stuff 196 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:41.440 throughout the day. But you know, two of those guys are always somewhere, 197 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.840 so they have seen as much stuff as we have, if not more, 198 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:46.960 over the course of this show. So I definitely want to want to 199 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.200 talk to them about some of their experiences. But let's let's talk a little 200 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.559 bit about today's show. Jeff Gerstman, it's, uh, you know, 201 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:03.000 as I said earlier, we we didn't have as as action packed a a 202 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:05.759 schedule for the show today, so just mop up and wrap up. Had 203 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.320 a few few good appointments that we were saving for the end there, but 204 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:11.559 you know, kind of filling in the gaps, like like, oh, 205 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:16.279 we're some stuff we haven't seen that we probably could get something out of that 206 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.399 would be interesting to people. So it's always it's also a good idea just 207 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.720 to leave that room for yourself and you know, just to case, just 208 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.399 in case you're like, oh something, Always like he was saying, like, 209 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:28.159 oh man, dog football, you got to see it, which I 210 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.480 couldn't find. You could not find the dog football. I think it was 211 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.600 next to the to the bounce tent. It was totally the opposite side of 212 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:37.159 the bounce, thankse. I walked past it, and I actually was like 213 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:41.759 that you knew that instantaneous. Yeah, I'm freelance. I got a lot 214 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:45.080 of time to one dime. I was actually wishing it was Michael Victor football. 215 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.639 Let me let me rate it an end. Marcus Beer bringing it. 216 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:56.399 I appreciate that it is the lot of Uh, Jeff, Let's let's talk 217 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:00.519 about some of the stuff that you saw today. Well, let's see, 218 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:05.360 we made our way to Majesco's weird back room so that I could see Hulk 219 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:07.799 Hogan's main event, which was worth the trip. We did that. So 220 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.960 this this is the connect game that that Hulk Hogan was actually at E three. 221 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.039 At some point before the show, we got an email that said, 222 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:22.720 like, Tuesday, from two to two thirty, watch Hulk Hogan walk on 223 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:28.039 one hall to the other another. Brother. Yeah, dude, like like 224 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:33.320 they dropped the big leg hall, Like they didn't even have a place for 225 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:35.919 him to be so they just set out this this PR blast, He's gonna 226 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.600 go somewhere. Well, apparently he was doing some interviews at the show, 227 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:43.679 but I don't think he really understood why he was there. I saw Good 228 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:52.039 Morning Law. But it's also been a week for really random celebrity moments. 229 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:56.399 Because I was walking through the Concos area yesterday and some PR guy grabs me 230 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:02.039 and says, do you want to interview Snoop Dogg. We got a similar 231 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.279 request at a certain point and we entertained it. But actually, so the 232 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:11.600 the offer came in right as we were driving up to the Sony press conference, 233 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:14.720 and so it was like kind of like in the middle of a million 234 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:19.039 things and you're pitching us a Snoop Dogg interview. That sounds crazy. Literally, 235 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.879 he reached out and grabbed me as I was walking down. He saw 236 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:26.960 the media on my badge, and he they were obviously so desperate to drag 237 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:30.799 people in. And then actually we sent somebody from Game Trailers, Daniel Bloodworth, 238 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.320 who's a really nice guy. He is a white guy. The me. 239 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.279 Yeah, and that's saying something. But yeah, so basically we have 240 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.519 We watched the interview last night and he Snoop Dog was just like totally chill 241 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:45.919 out of his head. But he'd been obviously asked. Everybody was being prepped 242 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:53.480 to ask about the album, and Bloodworth asked him and the response was shit 243 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:57.679 and would which I'm not gonna say so I'm being polite. The album has 244 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:03.879 been out for five fucking and swear the fuck of you being on the pool 245 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:07.839 guy's only doing what the and just just deer in the headlights at that point, 246 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:11.839 A fucking Boston. Damn. It was weird. You would you would 247 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:17.279 you would know absolutely, I'm the prototype was there was a weird air of 248 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:22.039 desperation around a lot of weird prs because usually at PR like E three, 249 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:26.319 everything's booked, like everyone has their appointments. There's like a few weird PR 250 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:27.839 stragglers that are floating and I'm like trying to books. But if you don't 251 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.880 have everything, I already like since stepped tight before the show. Too bad. 252 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:34.839 But this year there was a lot of people like roaming the floor looking 253 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:37.200 for media badges, like trolling. For me, it's like, hey, 254 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.759 hey, do you want to come see it something like like some alien ware 255 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:45.400 ship and it's like, no, no things to do, I'm not gonna 256 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.000 go see your headphones. No, I don't want to go see your goddamn 257 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:51.279 gaming headphones. I don't want to, Like I don't want a goddamn helicopter. 258 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:53.599 I don't want your goddamn remote control. He tell two separate people, 259 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:03.680 we already have a goddamn remote control too, Yeah, and that that how 260 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.480 could they believe that you have? Like with the office, you know, 261 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:11.799 there's just an arrow duation of this year's E three that I have not experienced 262 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.799 before. I just it felt like there were a lot of people that were 263 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:18.039 really needed a lot of coverage they didn't have locked up. Well, there's 264 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:22.039 I mean the sense that I got I kind of rumber around the floor. 265 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.599 Like you know, day one, Uh, everything was packed the whole the 266 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.519 whole show, Like both halls were just it was it was jam packed with 267 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.279 people. It was tough to get around. Kind of your your typical E 268 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:37.599 three experience. But I felt like by days two and three kind of I 269 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.880 guess everyone had had funneled to some specific spots like Okay, Nintendo is crazy 270 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.880 the entire show because everyone wants to go and see the we us stuff. 271 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:48.440 They want to get their hands on that stuff, and I imagine there was 272 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:51.440 a fair amount of traffic over at Sony as well to go see some the 273 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:56.559 Vita stuff. But or you know, they're like kind of very specific games. 274 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:00.799 But it didn't seem particularly hard if you wanted to just walk up and 275 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:04.240 see a lot of the product out there, which they were saying. I 276 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:12.759 think I read like maybe forty five thousands came from game stuff. I used 277 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:15.079 to get up to like sixty five thousand, I think. Yeah, before 278 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:19.240 they started ratching it down, I was there, like, hey, guys, 279 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.880 I mean crazy, those aren't those aren't packs numbers right, Like Packs 280 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:27.599 is bigger than that. But but but I'm speaking about just the volume of 281 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:30.880 people. Yeah, obviously, you know, Packs its own thing. It's 282 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:33.799 open to the public, so you're you're you're gonna have a larger crowd kind 283 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:36.799 of just uh, you know, inherently. And and E three I think 284 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:40.000 has been pretty good. Yeah, the organization has been pretty good about kind 285 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.359 of rattling down on people who have just no goddamn business being there. Although 286 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:45.519 you know, again, like we like we spoke a game stop manager, 287 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.480 I want to start up? May I may I bang? Well? Well, 288 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:52.440 like like like we like we like we've spoken, like we've spoken in 289 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:56.359 evenings past here. You know, you can always tell that if someone's walking 290 00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:00.640 around with the call of duty elite hat on, or just anyone that has 291 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.759 time to like what a bag of stuff hats? Yeah, so I want 292 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:08.880 to start plan. This is good. All the first spot checkers like if 293 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:11.640 they've got the free bag and and a free hat, and then inside the 294 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.279 bag and some other thing, like you just walk up checks and was like 295 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:18.960 how many items you got? Three? Al right out? Yeah, It's 296 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:22.319 like it's like a hunter's license, Like, all right, you're at your 297 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:23.440 limit. That's it. You can't have any more stuff. You're out. 298 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:27.039 It's the Paul Barnett plan, isn't it Like the heather he was talking about 299 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:30.680 the ginormous bags last year and if you have one of those bags, should 300 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:33.920 be stuffed in it. Yeah. There's there's two ways to check. There's 301 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:36.440 a little more measured the first one. The first way is that the first 302 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:38.359 words out of their mouth, do you have any free stuff? Right? 303 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:41.599 You know there's a problem. And then the second thing is a little thing 304 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:45.319 I like to call smell check. Yeah, yeah, it was. It 305 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.799 was a little assy between the EA and Microsoft booths today. As I was 306 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.920 leaving the hall today, uh, I definitely like twelve thirty on Monday, 307 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:57.200 I was walking from my activision to go to see ds X, and the 308 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:02.839 aromas that hit me were coming combination of bo badly loaded clothes, which is 309 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:06.279 always a nice one, smells like this, and then of course the delight 310 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:10.519 of somebody having packed down too many of the chili hot dogs that they sell 311 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:15.039 on the street here in La and it just cropped us did the entire road 312 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.000 all the way to Square Enix. Maybe even worse than that, though, 313 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.440 there were a couple of times where I caught just like a like a mouthful 314 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:26.279 of axe, just just just just like someone was compensating hardcore like I did 315 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:30.759 Shower to Dale. Let's just really throw it off, just blanket the whole 316 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:32.839 body. But maybe they did. They thought they were gonna get one of 317 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:34.799 those booth babes, and and it was just sure there wasn't just an axe 318 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:40.599 booth somewhere where there was across there was actually an axe booth across the way 319 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:45.359 from the South Hall, next to the wall Spraford a segment you want to 320 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:53.279 interview this bottle of axe? Nothing Clearly those are the biggest targeted gamer products. 321 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.279 I say mouthful because it was one of those like walking through whatever this 322 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:03.440 you know, invisible cloud and it was like I can actually taste like chewy. 323 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:06.319 It was, yeah, exactly. It was a texture to the air, 324 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.519 like compensating failure. That's right, it's glad. It's a good thing. 325 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:12.880 That was indoors. If anyone had lit a match, it would have 326 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:17.359 just been a fireball in the middle of the U the conventions, Well, 327 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:22.799 there was a bomb scare today for the step Like, what did anyone else? 328 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.640 I just saw a kind of the random Twitter things about there was something 329 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:29.000 happening at the walk back to my car. The cops kept redirected me to 330 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:30.240 various ways to get back to the garage. It was one of those people 331 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:33.119 that got kicked out due to Jeffs plan, like they were pissed that they 332 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:37.279 couldn't get any more free ship. So the one thing, So there's always 333 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.039 something, there's always some you know what you're gonna say, gimme thing, 334 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:42.400 you know, I do. There's always some gimme thing that like, like 335 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:47.079 everyone who's just going there for stuff, like okay, you can always just 336 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:48.880 spot that guy out of the crowd. You know that. Okay, you're 337 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.880 an asshole. What it was? It was like this cap that looked like 338 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:56.240 black hair on the top. It was like an orange headband. I don't 339 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:57.920 know what that was for. I saw so many people with that. I 340 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:02.279 have no it's like some It's like some sweating game, I think. But 341 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:07.559 it was just the taekwondo like connect game where you have literally like a connect 342 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:11.400 sensor and you have to do these taekwondo or judo poses. It was done 343 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:15.440 in the South Hole right in the bottom. I really taught the ship places 344 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:21.039 today. I really really memorized the best part. Well again, I mean 345 00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:23.720 my background being PR. I mean I've done so many East threes as a 346 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.519 PR person where it's like, all right, where's I booth this year? 347 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:29.200 Where's I both this year? West Hall, Southhole. I've never done Kent 348 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:33.400 yet, Thank you God. Rest in. No, I'm sorry, Stee. 349 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:37.880 Was it the Target Lounge now? No, it's a garage now? 350 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.240 Oh okay, yeah, Target Lounge is just on the concourse there. Yeah, 351 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:44.920 you know what. Oddly, so last year, come in last year 352 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:52.640 and do we have a guest here? I heard a door. We brought 353 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:57.400 beer. We are in the middle of a librage. Please come on in 354 00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:03.039 and and take a c and uh and yeah, I think we're good on 355 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.799 beers right now. Yeah, ahead and throw those in the fridge. I 356 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.400 feel like a total cheap ship for just turning up with a pack of Mabor 357 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:14.519 lights. Does anyone you want to drink in my water bottle? No, 358 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:18.440 we're all right, No, just get your hand And then we're trying to 359 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.319 keep the fridge stock. To the thing that blew me away today just on 360 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:23.559 the vein of free stuff people is like we were you would like the three 361 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:29.519 of us took up shop inside the abandoned badge pick up yea, And this 362 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:32.799 this was my moment of the show for the day. It was it was 363 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:36.160 outside, so we're outside and the booths are empty, so like Jeff Ryan 364 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:37.319 myself, we're just sitting there check on our phones or whatever. And multiple 365 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:41.119 people came up and asked us like questions about badges or questions about like, 366 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.400 you know, the show about a badge. But the best one was the 367 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.119 guy who came up and he was like stay like and I'm just sitting there 368 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:51.720 staring on my phone and I look up at him and he's like, hey, 369 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:52.880 do you know do you know if we're still handing out those free G 370 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:59.240 four bags? And I'm like, no, I don't. He's like, 371 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:03.119 okay, well do you know where they were hanging hanging out those free G 372 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:07.400 four bags? No? I don't. Okay, well do you think you 373 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.039 could tell me like where to go where I can maybe ask someone where those 374 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:15.960 FREEG four bags are? No? I fucking don't. And they finally like 375 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.839 walked off, and I'm just like, are you for real? There's ten 376 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:25.839 minutes left in this show and scrambling Sessler's face is in demand. I guess 377 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:29.000 so so so I loved like Jeff and I are seeing their guy comes up 378 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:30.200 and he's like friend, He's like, hey, I don't have my print 379 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.440 out, but I've got my ID. Can I get a holder? And 380 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.519 Jeff and I just like sitting there and kind of look at each other, 381 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:37.799 kind of look back forward, and Jeff's like, no, I can't help 382 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.160 you. You got to go inside mane and he goes, okay, great, 383 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:44.319 thanks, he runs off and just just like, so not much time 384 00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:48.920 left on the show, and I just this is like the last twenty minutes, 385 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.839 last twenty minutes. The guy's like, how do you get a bed, 386 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.400 I gotta go play some video games? Like what are you go hoping 387 00:25:55.440 --> 00:26:00.440 to? I love? What are you doing? What got him to this 388 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:03.240 point? Yeah? Like how does he have a print out? It's not 389 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:04.480 like, no, he didn't have a rent out. He had his ID. 390 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:07.279 So he's like, he's like, I don't I've got an ID? 391 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:11.240 Can you get You don't think he was ever supposed to go to the show. 392 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.400 I think he just was hoping to find some rube who didn't know what 393 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.039 was going on with like half an hour left that he could just get in 394 00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:18.039 magic Like he's like, yeah, just frobably go in whatever. No, 395 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:22.920 less hair. The lesson here is never underestimate the power of down Central three 396 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:29.480 two. I didn't play either of them. I thought they were on three. 397 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.559 Now now they're on two. It just seems like three Connect just came 398 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:33.920 out last year. Man. Yeah, I know, and it's still a 399 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.599 back of they don't put out many games for it, don't get me. 400 00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.599 Yeah? That was that was That was pretty amazing. But yeah, the 401 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:47.400 black hat thing, it looked like hair was like a beanie cap. Also, 402 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:53.319 the red wigs, the girls millions and like the animal hats, Scars 403 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:59.759 that or something like like bear bear ears on the top and then go down 404 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:06.640 lots of those. That was the next joint. Okay, fantastic, I 405 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:11.880 was gonna say. So Alex mentioned the concourse area. I feel like usually 406 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:17.000 like a fair amount of like in years past, a fair amount of appointments 407 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:18.960 have been taken up there. I never I never went upstairs, never went 408 00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:26.440 up into that area. Was okay, yeah, yeah, stuff up there. 409 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:30.839 I was up there going like this. Okay. Yeah, is that 410 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.920 is that accurate? Is yeah? That is so that game is a mini 411 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.680 game collection, but it is the whole whole logan main events. Yeah. 412 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.559 So it's like this guy's going to swing a chair at you and you need 413 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.640 to go like this to block it. But you have the time your blocks 414 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.359 okay, and then you grab the chair and you hit him with the chair. 415 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.480 So is it is it like first person? Is it like? No, 416 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.160 No, it's the third person. Different perspectives depending on which minime real 417 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.240 like punch Out Arcade kind of vibe to it. Like you don't play as 418 00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:02.799 whole Hogan, he's your mentor. So they have used their graphical engine and 419 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.799 art style to make a whole Cogan with what's what looks like just the using 420 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:10.519 their character creator to make the Hulkster. He just looks ridiculous and kind of 421 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:15.119 an endearing way. I guess. Does it have the same levels of diet 422 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.519 on his bed that you actually see? No, no, no, this 423 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:22.079 is classic Hogan. It's not the weight belt and beat people with it, 424 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:30.200 Hogan. It is pre PreO was it? Was it suburban Commando health Cogan? 425 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.000 And you can unlock that, you know, Yeah, I'm sure they've 426 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:37.559 got designs for all that stuff. I think I think that no one announces 427 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:42.799 a game in twenty eleven without some sort of DLC plans even and they were 428 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:47.079 saying like, yeah, there was like, oh you know, and you 429 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.960 could do all the Hulkster's moves over fifty moves at all, which I want 430 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:56.799 to stop and say, Hogan doesn't moves, but it does include the limited 431 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.599 edition rubbing your daughter's ass with the suntime. It's more like, let's thirty 432 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:06.240 eight, more like four moves, let's say, yeah for the hulk stew 433 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:10.240 But you were you were saying, you were saying like, like it's been 434 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:18.880 in your hands to have your son put someone in a coma. That you 435 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.279 were saying that, okay, like maybe not the highest of quality products, 436 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.559 but also kind of inoffensive, infensive. It's bumb, but you know what, 437 00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:30.440 it's a connect based mini game collection. Fuck do you want? At 438 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.480 least it came up with like a theme for like it it's wrestling. I 439 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.240 don't know, it's better than a seventeenth Carnival Games collection. You know, 440 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.480 it's like, it's at least it's something a little bit different. True enough. 441 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:45.759 I love that we went and saw the damn BioShock demo and that was 442 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:49.759 the first game you thought to talk about two weeks ago. I know, 443 00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.720 but come on, we'll start the show with the show style. BioShock demo 444 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:56.119 was awesome. That was amazing. It was the most one of one of 445 00:29:56.119 --> 00:30:00.640 the most amazing things I've seen any three ever. Yes, get the good 446 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.839 stuff. I have to say that today I saw the game the game that's 447 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.279 going to be the Avatar game of twenty eleven. I mean, and I 448 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.480 mean Avatar the movie game. Okay, I saw Tintin today. Oh yeah, 449 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.160 is that a winner over at Ubisoft? So the license game they're spending 450 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.839 way too much time like trying to get pressed to like, yeah, yeah, 451 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.880 it's it's a basically it reminded me of Flashback, you know, the 452 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.440 old Saga Genesis game. That's it. You're you're selling me already, so 453 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:33.160 but it reminded me of that. But Crap Free d Perspective and their big 454 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:38.799 East Free demo involved repeating cut scenes because there was a bug and a dodgy 455 00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:44.680 collision detection, and their high point was two player co op where you're on 456 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.440 an on Rail's motorbike and sidecar and you get to switch one person kind of 457 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.640 steers, one person kind of shoots and mean wild. I mean, I've 458 00:30:52.640 --> 00:31:00.640 had more entertaining craps because I think, let's talk. I you know, 459 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.880 I feel like that that whole project, that the Tintin thing. I realized 460 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.000 that Tintin is, you know, a big thing in Europe. But that 461 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.359 was happening at the press conference when I was like, I was like, 462 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.279 I grew up. I grew up reading Tintin. And you know, it's 463 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.240 got the it's got the whole you know, Steven Spielberg, and it's got 464 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:21.200 Peter Jackson and it's written by a guy named Stephen Moffett who's now writing Doctor 465 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.160 Who in the UK. Bigod love it and the movie actually does look really 466 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:26.799 cool. It's got some good quality voices. But yeah, this game was 467 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.160 just it looks like well, I mean even just pitching that entire property in 468 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.119 the US, like just saying like, hey tintin you guys everyone here, 469 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.960 it's like it doesn't resonate. Well, no one knows what the fuck that 470 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.279 means. They're waiting to add the words rin tint exactly. And actually if 471 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:42.799 they had done a rin tinting game, it probably would have been better. 472 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:52.160 Just licking your balls with Connect eight hours would have been a more so forgets 473 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:57.680 five, let's talk about ball licking on today. You've built that into a 474 00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:06.440 chair. They call it head tracking? What Jeff Gers? Anything else? 475 00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:10.880 What else? What else did you see today other than rassling? We went 476 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:16.400 by the catcom booth and hung out there for a while. Saw their wears 477 00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:24.480 dog several like Dragons Dogma, which has a a lion with a goat. 478 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:30.720 It's called a chimera, and no it's not. They told me they chimera. 479 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.880 That's what they is. There is a chimera in that game, but 480 00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:36.880 that this is this is separate. I had three pet different people in the 481 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.400 capcom booth tell me yesterday and now they're fighting the chimera with the lion's head 482 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:45.680 and the donkeys dick and the cat's tail and there's no dicks in my demo 483 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:52.480 demos, you know. Yeah, they had one. They had one demo 484 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.720 where we fought a chimera and there was other separate demo where it's a lion 485 00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.480 with a goat mounted to it attached to it and then snake head for a 486 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.799 tale. Okay, someone explain what the fuck this game is. It's a 487 00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:09.400 nightmare like it's it's it's pitched just like like well, like so monster I 488 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.119 don't never really caught out over here. So the idea is like this is 489 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.359 kind of supposed to be like hey, it's more it's like this is no 490 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:20.119 but you're not going to tell you like, hey man, it's like a 491 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.440 monster hunter. You can play by yourself. Like that's never come out of 492 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:27.960 their mouths. But that's kind of what it is like. But but it's 493 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.519 so like what the what the it's it's weird mmo ish looking. I mean, 494 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.079 it's kind of pretty looking, but sort of it's like really janky, 495 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.319 like really janky. Yeah, and like one of the one of the hooks 496 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.240 is that you're supposed to climb onto everything. So they're like, actually one 497 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:44.920 of the decade buns are two is grab and you can grab onto any of 498 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:46.519 the enemies you supposed to get up like like you've seen the trailer, like 499 00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:50.200 the big like three headed snake and like it's just to climb up there. 500 00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:52.599 Uh. The thing is like so when you're fighting this, uh this the 501 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:59.160 lion go the snake thing you Right, Well, look I just went on 502 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.599 what they told me. I know, I think that they're just crazy. 503 00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:07.359 I don't know. The dragons, that's a crazy. That's like you hear 504 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:08.719 that, You're like, okay, Japan, got it. Yeah, some 505 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:15.440 arguments this game meeting and like when you when you when you when you grab 506 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.480 on, like the idea of like grabbing ons like go chop off the heads 507 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.599 like that. Okay, that sounds like a cool concept, except like when 508 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.639 you grab on, you can't drop off, and so you're like you'll get 509 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:30.840 stuck on the leg and you'll just be going like I need to like at 510 00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.400 one point, like I was just I was just clipping in the guys in 511 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:40.559 the creatures, we have to wait till the creature goes like it's shaken off. 512 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.880 Is it kind of like you know, like old Spider Man games where 513 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:45.800 they have you doing like the wall crawling and then you get disoriented and you're 514 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.599 like climbing up into corners and yeah, I don't know where to go? 515 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.599 Can I just needed me on the ground. There's not like it's like it's 516 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.480 he's like kind of shadow Colossus asking like you're you know, you're trying to 517 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:58.760 get up these creatures, but they're like really tiny, so like the game 518 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:00.400 can't figure out what you're trying to do. So like you'll get clipped onto 519 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:02.800 the leg and you're just I'm hitting up with the character, just going like 520 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.559 and then just but then just flipping and going on, I can't wait till 521 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.400 you see it lays on the audio. Never tell me it would be drinks 522 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:21.440 on a show and you know it's you because that's all. Yeah. Eventually 523 00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.599 you'll just hit like diagonal, like you'll finally like get up there. But 524 00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:28.840 then but then you're just like on the back and you're just going like, 525 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:31.719 yeah, you just start hitting the attack button and it just becomes like just 526 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.920 sticking the sword into it over and over again until one part of it finally 527 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:38.880 dies. And meanwhile, like your NPCs that you're like you got your squad 528 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:44.480 of your posse with its squad base, but but it's not co op. 529 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.039 It's just like these weird AI guys are like, I'm going to cast magic. 530 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.880 I'm going to cast magic. I'm going to cast magic. And I 531 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.119 say, like, I think the good part is immune to the physical attacks. 532 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:07.280 Don't know some of in Japan's really said. It sounds like a real 533 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:16.119 winner from Capcom. Better it's their most expensive game today. Wait did they 534 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:20.920 tout this bag? Yeah? It is the largest dep team that Capcom has 535 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:27.159 ever had working on a game. Pitch it's Capcom STAB but almost a Western 536 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.320 you know APG. Like they try to tell you that's like maybe it's like 537 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:37.440 a Japanese Oblivion or something like that, trying to do an elder like, 538 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.800 I say, they got points for me because they simply had the one thing 539 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.880 that I've always hated about capcoming games is the fixed camera angle. They have 540 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:49.960 a free roaming camera on this so good left to them, Uh what I 541 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.559 mean obviously, like that's that's maybe not the highlight from the Capcom booth. 542 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:59.320 No, no, no, Smith's on iPad? Is that a Capcom joints? 543 00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:04.239 Yeah, it's a B and Interactive. Is that a movie based Smurf? 544 00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.159 No, it's not, thankfully, it's like the Smurs miss farm Bill 545 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:10.239 and it's free. But I got told the story that it was released and 546 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.639 parents were getting very angry because they were downloading it given their eye pads to 547 00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:21.079 their kids and the bike Smurthberries button was not password protected. All of six 548 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:24.639 and seven hundred dollars iTunes bills were coming in and people were not happy. 549 00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:29.760 That seems problematic? What else? What else with cap Comte street Fighter Cross 550 00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:31.800 Technyeah, you know, kind of talked about this game a few times. 551 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:36.400 Got to play that with Brad for a while, So now there's someone else 552 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:43.519 who understands how weird and kind of cool this game is. Yeah, you 553 00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.239 know, it's it's they're taking the Street Fighter for Engine basically and trying to 554 00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:50.599 cramp techn characters in it, and then they're largely successful doing that. Like 555 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:52.599 the teching characters, they don't feel purely like techn characters, but they feel 556 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.119 interesting to play in that environment, and you know, they've they've done some 557 00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.880 interesting things with the way that you can Joe Old characters and stuff like it's 558 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:05.679 very different from Street Fighter. So in a way, like if you're if 559 00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.039 you've learned the rules of Street Fighter, it almost feels broken, like a 560 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:12.599 hacked game or something like that, like a you know, Street Fighter two 561 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.119 Championship Edition, Rainbow Edition, the weird hacks that would let you throw fireballs 562 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:20.119 in the air exactly exactly. So are they giving easy I guess I actually 563 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.079 I don't think I've asked this question for Are they giving projectile attacks to the 564 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:27.679 tech and character. No, they're giving like sways and and like low rushes 565 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.760 that you under or around projectiles to a lot of those guys. So there's 566 00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:36.199 there's like a really distinct feel like kind of a split between the two groups 567 00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:37.920 of characters. Well sort of. I mean, the combo system is kind 568 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.760 of the same for both, so if you're getting close, you know, 569 00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:44.519 you're still kind of working your way up like medium heavy, and you know 570 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:46.840 it's a tag game, so you can kind of tag mid combo and continue 571 00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:51.880 combos. It seemed like they're even trying to balance it. The game is 572 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:54.159 even coming out until next year, so I don't think they have to worry 573 00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:57.639 about that yet. I think right now, it's like, let's get all 574 00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:01.280 these characters again, make it fun, and then make it fair. So, 575 00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.559 yeah, I think they'll eventually address that, and you know, who 576 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.039 knows, maybe they'll have to come out with some come up with some kind 577 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.599 of combo breaker system like Mortal Kombat as just to like take some of the 578 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:14.480 burden off of them, to balance it properly. And this is like, 579 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.199 well, we give we give them an escape hatch, we give them like 580 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:20.639 an emergency like panic button things, because it seems like they're so divergent that 581 00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.880 at some point you kind of said, like the characters are just like their 582 00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.599 own personalities, how much can you do? But at the same time, 583 00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:30.480 like the tech And characters have been given things like well, techn characters have 584 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.440 dragon punches. You know, it's just they work a lot differently in the 585 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:36.280 tech And series because of the nature of that game, but in this they 586 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:40.159 work like dragon punches and such. So they're adapting tech In moves to this 587 00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:45.159 kind of two D plane really effectively. They aren't projectiles, so no, 588 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.079 you know, not not every character and street Fighter is a projectile character, 589 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:52.400 so they kind of fit in on that level. Actually, uh, way 590 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:58.440 more interested to see the other game, Yeah, has not had like a 591 00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.440 lot of success gener ration and putting out like a fighting game that gets like 592 00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:07.320 anyone excited. So I'm super curious to at least stateside like that. Like 593 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:13.400 the Damko stuff has has a certain cache in Japan for sure, but it's 594 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:16.760 it's it's it's no street Fighter even there. So yeah, and if only 595 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:22.679 because like I'm curious to see like kepcoming Namco b with like they publicly said 596 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:24.239 like, hey, we're not looking at each other's games, we're touching them. 597 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:27.360 I don't know how true that is or if that's just meant to be 598 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:31.519 like how they're portraying it publicly, but I am just squeally interesting to see 599 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:36.679 what they like, if they how far it swings in the tech and direction 600 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.639 for the street Fighter care right, because there are fundamental things about tech and 601 00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:43.760 that breaks too, like the Break street Fighter. It's the same problem that 602 00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:46.760 Mortal Kombat had when it went three D, is that if you're throwing fireballs 603 00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:52.480 at someone and they can just step out of the way, fireballs become almost 604 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.599 completely useless in a lot of cases. So it's you know, how do 605 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:59.599 you you know, manage that stuff? How do you make projectiles matter in 606 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:01.719 that sort of game? And Techan does have like a couple of projectiles, 607 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:06.559 but you know, they're just weird kind of throwing in. This guy can 608 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:09.679 shoot laser beams out of his eyes and that's about it. But anything else 609 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:17.719 that the capcom Booth, Relations of Things, Revelations. Yeah, that's that's 610 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:21.800 the one that's out next year. That's the three DS game The Mercenaries Won, 611 00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:23.519 that's out next month. This is the story driven there's there's I think, 612 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:25.440 I think, I think this is really just the demo that was on. 613 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:30.440 Mercenaries came out in Japan and has a short demo friends, it's different. 614 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.199 Apparently the demo you were playing is longer than the one that was on 615 00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:39.000 It's about like five minutes versus ten minutes. Yeah, but yeah, I 616 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:45.000 mean it looks gorgeous. What is the what is the I guess a story 617 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:50.840 driven game like what is five? Essentially Ukay, at some point you didn't 618 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.760 know where Chris Redfield went. He has some coordinates in the middle of the 619 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:59.280 ocean, and Jill Valentine follows to find out what happened. Due Chris the 620 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.760 middle the ocean, you're and it's kind of funny. The demo opens and 621 00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.079 Jill is like, is it code Veronica again? A Zombie Boat. I 622 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:07.480 would see these water based enemies, so like when you kill them, they 623 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:12.280 sort of disintegrate into the ground. That's not really explained how or if they're 624 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:17.280 connected Zombie Boat, which was that'd be a good movie. Yeah, but 625 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.320 yeah, set on a boat, right, Yeah, Well it's what's kind 626 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:22.599 of what's kind of cute though, is that it starts and Jill wakes up 627 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.519 and you're in this room and it kind of looks like it's kind of modeled 628 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.000 after the mansion from Reside Evil one, and she goes, I feel like 629 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.159 I'm in a mansion, and then but then you find out you're on a 630 00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.760 boat. Who says that? Yeah? Someone actually everyone I woke up here 631 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.679 and said, like, I feel like I'm in in a mansion, I 632 00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.519 would say someone very someone from Reside Evil one. That's you know, something 633 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:50.559 scripted by Capcom Japan and then translated wake up on a boat and not realize 634 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:52.800 they're on a boat. I'm the master of feeling like I'm in a mansion. 635 00:42:52.880 --> 00:43:00.360 This mansion is moving back and forth. I'm in an l a ansin. 636 00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:06.639 But the game itself feels like ohs and Evil, which means I really 637 00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.079 am am not that interested, but in terms of what it does, uh 638 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:13.599 for like showing up the processing power of the three DS, like character models 639 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:15.960 are just absolutely gorgeous, and it actually does some pretty interesting use of the 640 00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:21.239 of the three D given that you have like a giant character model that is 641 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.119 sort of what's popping out at you and so that that's kind of the three 642 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:27.880 D part as you're following behind that to look at the enemies. But yeah, 643 00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.599 otherwise it's kind of the same reside Neila tropes that. Like, it's 644 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.719 the reason I stopped playing five, like three hours in, and I think 645 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:37.440 I'm just not that interested in playing another game in that in that formula. 646 00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.199 Yeah, but it feels like I mean when you say like, it feels 647 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:45.480 like Resident Evil Ill on a handheld on a handheld form and I I can't 648 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.639 tell if that means like you're talking like old Resident Evil or kind of the 649 00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:53.159 you know, so yeah, but just it's that, Yeah, I mean, 650 00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:57.360 it's it's still if you if you enjoyed Five like I I didn't, 651 00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.280 but if you are still cool with that formula, then you know, Revelations 652 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:02.480 is right, really and it's going to fill in some story gaps that, 653 00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.519 uh, I guess had not been filled. I didn't finish five, so 654 00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:08.639 I don't know what those gaps are. But it's what if there was a 655 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:17.599 boat zombies on looking boat now we're talking, wouldn't all you have to do 656 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:22.119 is just sink the boat? You just suck my boat. Sorry, I 657 00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:28.960 seem like that sank my battleship. Jeff. After that, you and I 658 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:34.840 went and saw Ridge Racer unbounded? Did we totally did see that. We 659 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.920 did, Alex, you were there as we were. We were so unbounded, 660 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:43.039 we were unbounded as So that's that's Bugbears making that. It's the flat 661 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:47.800 out guys, and that is that game looks like a a kind of a 662 00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:54.400 a slurry of of burnout and split second ideas that they've Yeah, I mean, 663 00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:58.480 it'd like to be clear like it has nothing to do with Ridge Racer. 664 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:00.960 Yeah, and the chicken in it. There are cars, there is 665 00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:05.039 drifting. Well, the chick is in the trailer, she's not in the 666 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.880 game, but I mean the game, it's cars. They were clear about 667 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:12.039 saying like this has nothing to do with Ridge, like like literally it said 668 00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:15.360 it's not any you never they were maybe things like this is this does not 669 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:21.079 take place in Ridge City Universe. I was sitting there going like City Christian, 670 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:28.559 Peter Barthlow is here in the house with a mystery beer boss kind of 671 00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.559 beer. Bring it on in, keep it place, point on it, 672 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.400 keep it coming. I know who you are and Brad Shoemakers and the limit 673 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.119 you need to go. That's it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's 674 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.920 just like Cowboy, Okay. Absolutely, would you like an interesting fact? 675 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:45.320 I don't think there's any more room without fridge. We just give it all 676 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:52.960 the metage. Yeah, what's that? Don't ask questions? Yeah, don't 677 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.920 ask those kind of questions, Peter Barthlow. We have an excellent view of 678 00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:06.679 your butt on camera right now, so perfect perfect location for that. You 679 00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:14.320 leave the beer. Did you bring a fridge to replace this one? Yeah, 680 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.960 you're not a very good fridge either, Christian. Put put beer in 681 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:29.480 you it just gets warm and turns into piss on speak. Experience showed him. 682 00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.760 You know interesting fact about interesting fact about flat Out? Well, it's 683 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:36.719 totally interesting to me because that was actually the first game on launchte ending. 684 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.840 So I like the flat Out games like they're kind of weird that they've always 685 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:45.159 kind of wouldn't been like a second tier series. But they're crazy and they 686 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:50.360 try, you know, really bizarre shit with their physics, and they also 687 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:55.079 make the best drinking games ever. That was the whole thing, those those 688 00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:59.440 physics based mini games. When you're trying to inject that little guy out great. 689 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:01.119 You know, if you miss the bullsight, you do a shot. 690 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:06.360 If you hit the bullsight, you do two shots. We had some great 691 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:07.880 night's play testing that game up for ending. Leave it to the Finns, 692 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:15.400 right, but but are they they're finished? But you know, I we 693 00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:16.960 had no idea really what to expect from that game because they had shown a 694 00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:21.639 couple of pre rendered trailers beforehand and it just looks weird. Yeah. Yeah, 695 00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:24.840 but so the the Unbounded is a gang in the game, right, 696 00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:30.719 called the Unbounded, called the Unbounded, and you're like a junior member of 697 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:32.039 the Unbounded and you're trying to work your way up. You have to bound 698 00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:35.360 them up in the end of the game. By the end, yeah, 699 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.119 it's a lot of cop and you're all bound it's it's a lot of it's 700 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:40.119 a lot of kind of that that that action racing stuff where you're you know, 701 00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:44.840 blown other cars off the track. You're tearing through the environment a lot 702 00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:47.000 of just like crashing through building. Yeah, you're playing it like burnout. 703 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:51.079 You're doing near near misses and and and doing all that sort of stuff, 704 00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:53.559 streaming drift to fill up a gauge, and then when that gauge is full, 705 00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:58.039 you can get the A button to kind of activate a charge which will 706 00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:00.400 give you a speed boots. I'll kind of hut you forward a little bit 707 00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.280 there, and if you're you know, heading towards a building that has the 708 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:06.599 you can blow this up icon, you will drive through it as a shortcut 709 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.079 or something, or you can just do that into cars to destroy. You 710 00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:13.599 can also create traps for other other like it's it's it's it's all situation. 711 00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.199 All depends on where you are on the tracker type. I thought it looked 712 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:20.159 pretty sharp like that. Graphically, it looked it looked pretty good again, 713 00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:22.840 like you know, kind to be honest, kind of derivative as far as 714 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.159 like what they're showing gameplaywise, certainly, but not derivative of a bridge racer. 715 00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:30.000 No. Yeah, so so I which I'm all four, Like I 716 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:35.760 know that there's kind of that game needs to have the ability to do three 717 00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:38.760 sixty drifts spins through building. That's the one ridge racer thing they need to 718 00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:43.800 bring back. It's just like some ridiculous three sixty like driftings. Well, 719 00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.079 they're still a ways off with that game, it sounded, and perhaps with 720 00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:51.800 your one of your user created tracks, Yeah, you can build that. 721 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.199 So so they're talking about this is taking place in was it Shatter Bay? 722 00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.599 Say so, so that's the city that takes place in. And then they're 723 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:00.960 like, okay, this is the city that you know the game is in. 724 00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:04.800 But then users can create their own cities. And they didn't actually show 725 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:06.920 any mechanics, so that it was kind of a little pre rendered bit. 726 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.079 But the I the idea that that that I took from this was that they're 727 00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:14.320 gonna have these tile sets for these cities of kind of like block areas that 728 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:16.360 you can then go and create your own cities and create you know, your 729 00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:21.159 your own tracks in this format and then you know, chair them and other 730 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:22.599 people can race on them, and and and so on and so forth. 731 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:24.920 They didn't want to talk about it. We shot an interview, and you 732 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:28.360 know, they weren't really taking anything to me. I mean, like, 733 00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:30.559 that's that's certainly what it looks like it's the most interesting thing about that product. 734 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.559 It's it's you know, the gameplay looked. We didn't touch it at 735 00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.440 all, but the you know, visually it looks sharp. You know, 736 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.440 there's there are no kind of that. There are no Bird Out games announced 737 00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.920 right now of that nature. Like there's the crazy downloadle but whatever the fuck 738 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:51.119 that's going to be the show with the lobster with the Lobster monsters. Uh, 739 00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:52.760 and you know, split Second is done. You know, Disney doesn't 740 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.480 seem like they're going to be doing anything with that and anymore so I I 741 00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.639 when I saw them, like, yeah, you're filling a gap. There's 742 00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:00.800 nothing else that's really doing this right out, like go for you guys. 743 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.960 Interestingly, though, while you get the graphical damage as you drive through layer 744 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:09.800 after layer of building and concrete pillar, it doesn't affect your car's performance one 745 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:14.159 a out And they said that's a conscious decision they've made. While your car 746 00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:16.960 will just get graphically messed up, you can still hit the same speed, 747 00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:21.480 you can still put you know, drift and do everything even while you're practically 748 00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:25.800 like three wheels and an exhaust and somebody's leg hanging out the point of that, 749 00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:30.440 Yeah, it just needs to be fun, like like that pulls on 750 00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:35.800 the left. No one wants to do that in that style of racing game, 751 00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:37.840 Like that's for a simulation. So sorry, but wouldn't it be even 752 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:43.800 funnier and more ridiculous just the car is just totally still glossy and shiny throughout 753 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.760 all that stuff. Oh well, well the visual damage. I think it's 754 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.519 just fun. It's cool to break like it when shit gets fucked up. 755 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:57.559 Yeah, just ask Limp Biscuits given their track record dropping soon. Would it 756 00:50:57.559 --> 00:50:59.960 wouldn't have been better that, you know, your car gets so fucked up 757 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:05.320 that there is some really random physics stuff like a wheel is bouncing off and 758 00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.320 you're literally bound bouncing up and down as you as you're going on just axles, 759 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.440 or you know, you know, half your leg gets ripped off. 760 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:15.960 I mean, where's the really leg apart? Seriously? I mean, way, 761 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:19.599 if you're gonna go for comedy, bodily organs must be lost. Yeah, 762 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.719 I mean never did they did show like there was a you know, 763 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.039 one one one of these little kind of like trigger areas where you're basically plowing 764 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.559 through this. It was like a truck or something, or maybe just a 765 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.599 uh, I get carols, but there's a bunch of like a giant you 766 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.880 know, gas tanks, like compressed gas tanks plowed through. Then they go 767 00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:42.679 rocketing off into the air and are and just kind of like cause these crazy 768 00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.519 explosions out in front of you with this bridge down right as you as you 769 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:49.079 drive under it to kind of block the path. So it's kind of just 770 00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:52.480 these insane chain reaction moments in the game that that you know, they looked 771 00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:58.320 they looked nice, and I realized that, yeah, there's this crazy, 772 00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:02.199 this obsessive knee for purity and the same thing fucking over and over again with 773 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:07.079 with whatever the Ridge Racer audience is anymore, I'm not even sure is no, 774 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:08.760 I'm not even sure. Yeah, Like it's that what the audience is. 775 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:12.119 That's what Namco does. Yeah, I guess. So I don't think 776 00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.280 the audience is necessarily we don't tell you it is the most exciting year for 777 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.800 Ridge Racer in over a decade because look at the two games they've got. 778 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.360 They've got one that's like not even a Ridge Racer game to me, Well, 779 00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:44.000 it's just like a touch screen Blake put the other fingers like that, 780 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:50.199 got it? Can we get a genre page on Giant Bomb with that contains 781 00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.880 dub steps. We can definitely do a wobble based concept of page. No, 782 00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:57.199 we cannot do not give people suggestions for ship pages and it's already made, 783 00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:05.159 assholes. Sorry. So yeah, anyway, Unbounded, it looks interesting, 784 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.679 way more interesting than the trailers looked, that's for sure. Definitely, 785 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:13.719 And I would like to see more of that game down the road. Get 786 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:19.320 it because the road because it's a car ah yeah, man, And then 787 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.920 he three's over baby Less party and then after that you went and did your 788 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.639 your Ken Lavine interview. Hows Ken? It seems like he's doing really well. 789 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:29.440 We talked about some of the things he said at the press conference, 790 00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:32.760 talking about, you know, putting move support in that game and uh and 791 00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.360 getting to be a guy that gets to pull something out of his pocket at 792 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.559 a press conference, going to be that guy, getting to do a little 793 00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:44.280 bit of theater, as he put it, because he didn't really have much 794 00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.480 to say about it other than we're doing something for this here it is and 795 00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:53.039 yeah, so all you know, all those announcements seem incredibly early. You 796 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:57.039 know, he didn't you know, he didn't have answers for questions like so, 797 00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.000 what are you gonna do with the mover the move wand in this game 798 00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.039 was like no, you know, we're gonna We're gonna do some experiments. 799 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.400 I mean, it seemed like all all that announcement at or you know, 800 00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:08.760 all when his presence at that Sonny press conference, all that amount of two 801 00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:14.159 is like we are looking into this stuff, like we are not just discounting 802 00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:16.559 this stuff, you know, wholesale. Uh it did it also just gonna 803 00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:20.800 kind of sound like they were committing to we're gonna make something on the Vida 804 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:22.119 Like that is like, yeah, that's a that's a game, and it 805 00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.559 sounds like that that's a game that they've been talking about for a while, 806 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:30.639 uh conceptually, you know, just while they're working on this game, thinking 807 00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.000 like man, it wouldn't be cool if we did this other thing and and 808 00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:36.239 didn't really have a place for it, And when the Vida came along, 809 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:37.519 it was like, well, you know, maybe we have an opportunity to 810 00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.360 do it here. So that's what they're gonna do from the sounds of it, 811 00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:44.559 So do it on another system that nobody's gonna buy. Yeah, So 812 00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:49.280 interview forthcoming video interview forthcoming from from Kent on that. Yeah, uh and 813 00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:54.440 uh. We We then spent some time dancing all right, we play, 814 00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.920 Yeah, we play a little Dance Central two did a little Dance Central two 815 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:04.719 h like a G six. Unfortunately Power by Kanye West is not in that 816 00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:07.760 in that build, I'll say, maybe I'll end up in the final game. 817 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:09.920 Yeah, I definitely that. I let the folks on Harmonics know, 818 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:13.280 you know, hey, you know, I think they're saving that for the 819 00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:15.159 mash up with Folsa Need Need. You got to be get out of your 820 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:22.320 car and Dance Central Needs Needs ghost Writing mini game and finally we've what we've 821 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.920 all been winning for. But while we were grab asking over there Dance two, 822 00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.119 Patrick Klappick, you were up to some business. What's what's going on 823 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.000 with you? I was interesting? New people. They're coming into our place, 824 00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:38.599 Oh fantastic, And how you doing? So? Were three Industries? 825 00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:45.159 Way to wrap the stained shirt? I like it. You're at Roscoe's. 826 00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:46.400 Yeah, all right, forgiven that, it's almost worse that you told us 827 00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:51.960 that. Yeah, we didn't go to Rosco's at all. We just we 828 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:55.239 just we did oven lasagna. We barely we we we did the hardcore route 829 00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.400 between this house and the center, trying to convince myself that Evan's and like 830 00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:08.639 this is edible. I'll be down in and out at least no getting out, 831 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:10.679 like I'm my away from the house. I don't care whatever. It's 832 00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:15.280 a it's a hamburger. What we're saying? What else? What did you 833 00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:19.679 do? Would you do? Today? Do you do? Who let you 834 00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:23.639 in here? I don't know. I can't even get into the show. 835 00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:30.239 I'm not even eighteen. Definitely, that definitely didn't you know. We were 836 00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:32.639 talking about the sun yesterday. That definitely didn't stop people today, like the 837 00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.440 the average age. I felt like plummeted at the show today, like there 838 00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:37.639 was like, oh, day three, they're not even really checking the badges. 839 00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:43.000 Yeah, it's like I can't get him. Whatever. Babies walking around 840 00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:45.000 unsupervised all over the goddamn place. I actually do have a picture. I 841 00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.840 tweeted this yesterday of some guy walking around with his two year old toddler on 842 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.880 his arm. I saw that. I actually mentioned that the other day. 843 00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.920 I thought that was just gross. That's yeah, unfair to baby, unfair 844 00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:55.880 to people, and unfair to the kid. I think if you bring a 845 00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:59.159 child into eighty three, he was under seventeen. You fullfit that child, 846 00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.800 and we get to sell them on the bay fucking harsh, and that child 847 00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:07.280 gets to generate assets for Star Wars. The old Republic shut them off. 848 00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:15.039 That's it sounds like personal hell, that's I want no part of that people. 849 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:20.719 You guys. We need someone here, Guys, guys, I'm not 850 00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:24.119 going to convince you this game as any I'm just I'm too tired. I 851 00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:29.840 just I can't show you a trailer. Roll the trailer because he could be 852 00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:32.320 even worse. They could send them to miss the caffeine camp. Oh god, 853 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:36.760 I saw someone posted that guy's website and I didn't go to it. 854 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:42.320 Where where is Lull's sec? And they're hacking brigade? And when it was 855 00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:45.760 seriously, seriously shut that guy down. Take care of this guy, Patrick 856 00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:51.119 Kapic, run me through your day. Uh So I started out women saw 857 00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:52.320 bishock, but a lot of talked a lot about that. I mean, 858 00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.320 it looks looks great. I look the other way they I'll only make the 859 00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:58.239 comment that I love the way they do the demo, which is, hey, 860 00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:00.079 here's the game. They showed the game for ten minutes. Yeah, 861 00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.840 and you go out, get the fuck out. Yeah, I have a 862 00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:07.719 personal distaste for demos that sort of talk over the entire thing and break down 863 00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:12.239 every single mechanic that they're showing to you as though you have never played a 864 00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:14.679 game before and you can't figure out kind of what's going on. I don't 865 00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:19.400 mind a little instruction, but yeah, it's the carnival barker thing is not 866 00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:27.960 cool. Like as you can see here, that's and death. Of course, 867 00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:31.280 they topped that by giving you a power point beforehand. Here's how many 868 00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:36.440 games we sold. Here's this game. Here's what's happening on screen. So 869 00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:38.440 this is the fucking This is the pie shot of the fun in the first 870 00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.599 game. And as you can see, we've upgraded the fun level by twenty 871 00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.800 three percent just for this one. And when we had downloadable content, because 872 00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:49.559 we do have a full downloadable gun strategy, what are you gonna add seventeen 873 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.599 percent more fun taking it to two hundred ninety six percent more fun. It's 874 00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:57.039 going to be fun. I like fun. I'm gonna like this game. 875 00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:00.760 I'm gonna order this game. That sounds great. Yeah, and then then 876 00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:04.239 uh, sward a little time to check around. So I went to uh, 877 00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.320 I have not played Demon Souls but Dark Souls is there, and one 878 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:09.719 of the uh, Jeffrey on the trench team, he was telling me like, 879 00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.159 you should just go check it out, if only because if you go 880 00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.039 he pointed out the specific kiosks to me that you can grief the other players, 881 00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:19.599 so you don't have to play the game. You can just go in 882 00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:22.760 and fucking just beat the ship out of the other people that are trying to 883 00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:27.199 learn this game at these kiosks. So I just went to that kiosk and 884 00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:28.880 like, I don't know how to play this game. I just knew how 885 00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:32.119 to stab the sword, and so I'm just walking around just stabbing people. 886 00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:36.159 And you can see like the eight kiosk, so you can see the people 887 00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:37.920 that clearly don't know what they're doing. Like some people were like, hey, 888 00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:40.039 you know, I know Demon Souls want to come out check Dark Souls. 889 00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:42.760 I was trying to find the people that were like, you know, 890 00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:44.639 I've heard a lot about this game, I want to learn how to play 891 00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:45.679 it, and I would just stab them and then you just have to immediately 892 00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:50.280 start. Just the people are like, hey, these kiosks are open and 893 00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:52.679 this is a game. I should play something. But it was like everyone 894 00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:55.679 was hungover, so like there was no one anywhere in this hall, I 895 00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:59.559 just and I would just find the one guy and then I would just wait 896 00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:01.559 till he respond, and that would just stab him in the back. So 897 01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:07.519 he created the role from the south Park like World Warcraft south Park episode, 898 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.079 like the guy who just runs around killing everyone's characters. That's all. I'm 899 01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:13.280 not gonna be a game for me. I'm not gonna play this game, 900 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:16.639 so I'm gonna enjoy my my Kiosk demo by just really just ruining this one 901 01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:20.519 guy's time. Was trying to enjoy this game. That was little shit. 902 01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.880 Yeah, you know, I've not played much Demon Souls, but that sounds 903 01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:29.239 exactly like Demon Souls like like, and it actually encouraged me, like if 904 01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:32.960 I can buy that game just to ruin other people's time like that, because 905 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:36.960 like, actually playing that game sounds like no fun at all, But if 906 01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:40.960 I can just like kind of just just really defeat other people enjoy just monkey 907 01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:45.280 wrench everyone else's time. Yeah, So it didn't that really quickly, and 908 01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:49.280 then uh, I kind of decided to we're the one to check some but 909 01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:52.800 that's the stuff out I hadn't seem prey too, and what brad Hamant talking 910 01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.159 about Prey two sounded like really fucking awesome. Yeah, And I finally got 911 01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:59.599 a chance to check that out, and it is I played a little Dayo 912 01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:02.920 Sex Revolution. We've got to build in the office, and it's no questionable 913 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:07.880 yea, and I Dato Sex is my absolute favorite game of all time, 914 01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:10.599 and so I'm been really looking forward to something like that. And so when 915 01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:14.719 I saw that game, I like, I'm like, Okay, I don't 916 01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:16.280 have the history with the Data Sex series. So when I've seen on this, 917 01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:19.920 I'm like, Okay, maybe maybe I'm missing something. Maybe this is 918 01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:22.519 like if I love Data Sex and I see this and I played, say, 919 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:24.119 I'm like, oh, this is you know, calling back and feeding 920 01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:27.760 into all these things that were great about the regime. But it's it's like, 921 01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.559 you look at like this kind of antique the things about this game that 922 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:34.159 feel old, that feel clunky. It looks more like a brand new team 923 01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:38.079 that was given uh this this franchise with a lot of history and make new 924 01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:42.880 tools, new technology, new studio, and then also build on a sequel 925 01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.639 that was a sequel to like Dao Sex two was already a bad game, 926 01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:50.639 and then try and create it, so anyway, that's that's neither either are 927 01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:53.039 there. The Prey Too is absolutely my favorite game I saw at the show. 928 01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:58.119 Wow, absolutely it is. It is a spiritual successor to what made 929 01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:00.840 Dato Sex a great game, which is player agency and that when you you 930 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:06.400 it's it's an open world approach it how you want. I disliked Prey in 931 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:10.480 every capacity, but Prey To is just absolutely incredible, an open world blade 932 01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:16.239 runner. Like I know, I've talked on the BombCast earlier this week about 933 01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:19.920 how I'm tired of guns, but what's great about this game is it's, 934 01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:22.480 yeah, you're shooting people, but it has the verticality, the speed, 935 01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:25.519 the motion, the sense of scale of an Assassin's creed game, of a 936 01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:31.039 Mirror's Edge game combined with an open world, uh sort of mission structure, 937 01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:35.079 and it's just it's just so it's just so cool. Also, what I 938 01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:39.599 loved is your gun is always holstered and you have to actively trigger it to 939 01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:44.920 come out, so it is meaningful when your gun is out if you're not 940 01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:46.599 just it's not just the first person shooter troup where it's like there's just this 941 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:52.920 gun and that's right, that's my avatar around the world holster the gun. 942 01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:55.800 But it's like if you if you cite your gun at someone, but they 943 01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:00.719 do so they show a specific instance in the Prey two demo where you're you're 944 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:04.880 going up to get some information from this like crime lord or whatever, and 945 01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:07.400 you're presented initially when you talk to him, it says I'm not going to 946 01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.000 give you the information, and you either say okay, or you have to 947 01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:13.440 pay two thousand credits. So you can say fine, I'll go find two 948 01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.079 thousand credits or no, and then you're able to take your gun out, 949 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:19.960 shoot the bodyguard next to him, and then he gets freaked out and says, 950 01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.280 all right, final, I'll give you the information. Uh, and 951 01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.440 then you But but but what's great is that you could have either you could 952 01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:28.840 have just said fine, I'll go get the two thousand credits, come back 953 01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:30.039 you would have given it to you, or you could have blown both of 954 01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:34.039 them away and then the mission you would just would have failed the mission. 955 01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:37.280 But just I I love that sort of structure, or also just being able 956 01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:38.840 to just funck with the environment. Like there's beggars that are asking for money 957 01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:43.079 and then like you could pull a gun up to them and they'll just scatter 958 01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:45.440 off. Or there was a show there was a guy just hanging out a 959 01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:50.159 ledge and just be a dick, just knocked him off, hit him in 960 01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:54.920 the face, and there's like this sposting security system that says like don't kill 961 01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:01.039 more people. No, you said like mission failure. But in this, 962 01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:04.599 in this style of game, I imagine that just means like it's not it's 963 01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:08.960 not like okay, reset bag's like okay, that's this is going to come 964 01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:12.960 about this quest some other or you know, you have to go do something 965 01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:15.679 else, like like it's it's it's like that's the end of that quest line 966 01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:18.880 because you killed this dude. You can't pursue that path anymore. Yeah, 967 01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:21.159 you just move on to the next thing. And the only thing that gave 968 01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:25.559 me a little worries that they mentioned Tommy like four or five times during their 969 01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:29.239 presentation. They were like yeah, they're like so they're the setup for the 970 01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:31.239 game is like, you know, the connection to Pray is that you're you 971 01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:35.480 were on that aircraft or the plane that crashed in you saw like a little 972 01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:39.480 sequence of Prey one and you're this us Marshall. I don't remember that at 973 01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:41.599 all. I don't remember either, And so you play this a little sequence 974 01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:44.119 where you get out and then all of a sudden, it's like flash forward 975 01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:45.440 a couple of years later, and the game's about you trying to, you 976 01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.480 know, discover your memories why you became like this skilled bounty hunter. What 977 01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:51.480 does all on? Fine, that's a good way to like start you out 978 01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:54.880 with skills instead of having to learn them. But they're like, and you're 979 01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:57.480 to work with Tommy through most of the game, And I'm like, is 980 01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.440 that really what I say? I thought it sounded more like when I got 981 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:03.719 that demo, I came away from thinking like, oh, Tommy will show 982 01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.000 up a couple of times. No. Like they they're like, you've had 983 01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:11.199 a relationship with Tommy the entire time that you were unconscious. He is a 984 01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:15.400 central character in the plot. Uh okay, So that scares me a little 985 01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:16.360 bit. Yeah, I don't mind if they can do it, well, 986 01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:19.000 it's fine, that's fine. Sure. I mean everything else with the game 987 01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:24.760 looks just really you just like, forget Prey one and Tommy. They probably 988 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:27.320 are doing that too, because it knows what Tommy will be like when you 989 01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:29.480 see him. I've heard nothing but amazing things about this game. That the 990 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:31.719 trailer, which seems to kind of at least you know, it's it's pre 991 01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:35.800 rendered. The trailer gives a really great it's absolation of the actual gameplay, 992 01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:39.000 right, and it it seems like it kind of proves out a lot of 993 01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:41.920 the ideas that were actually in this gameplay demo. If you'll allow me to 994 01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:45.199 just nitpick for just one second, Yes, I cannot stand the nit cap 995 01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.639 on the on the main character. And I realized that when you're actually playing 996 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:51.639 that game, you you'll never knew that that game No, but it's it's 997 01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:54.920 it's in all of the imagery that they're showing for that game, and I 998 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:58.400 feel like they're otherwise, like they're trying to have this space western kind of 999 01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:00.880 vibe and I don't know, it's it's just like two Williams or a hipster 1000 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.440 for you, or like what it is. I don't know, I don't 1001 01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:06.440 know. I don't know. It's it's it's such, it's such as it's 1002 01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:10.079 something, it's something that I saw it It bothered me, and I realized 1003 01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.320 that it's petty and minor and a head. It's just a piece of armor 1004 01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:14.880 that you can replace. It has, It has no impact on the actual 1005 01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:18.519 game. But but yeah, I'm excited to see more of this game for 1006 01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:21.920 it's just a really interesting game. I love it. It reject everything about 1007 01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:25.480 Prey and it's kind of like it sounds like a lot of ways the game 1008 01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:27.719 that Human Head wanted to make. I mean, but it was the three 1009 01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:30.639 D Realms project, given that we're talking about, like dude, New Forever 1010 01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:32.760 is coming out, Like Pray was something that was in development at that studio 1011 01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:36.920 years and years ago when Tom Hall was working there, and portal technology was 1012 01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:40.280 something that was supposed to be part of Prey back in the nineties, so 1013 01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:43.960 like that was a legacy game like this, this just sounds like Human ed 1014 01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:45.920 Win in a completely new and interesting direction. And I just that was the 1015 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.039 crazy thing to me from Wing it would be a reminder of like, oh, 1016 01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.360 yeah, this is Human Head, the guys who who developed or at 1017 01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:55.199 least you know again finished Pray. Uh, Like this is this is that 1018 01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:58.280 same studio again? Yeah? Yeah, and you you would not know if 1019 01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:00.679 I'm looking at the game. Yeah, like it's it's this seems like some 1020 01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:02.039 sort of like Triple A studio out of nowhere. But you know, this 1021 01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:05.519 game has been a long time contract work all these years just to like stay 1022 01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:10.320 afloat while while building those things. I guess like Pray came out kind of 1023 01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:13.039 a while ago. Yeah, that was that was That was like the year 1024 01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:15.800 after the three sixty launched. There was like it was after like there's the 1025 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:18.440 big drought, there's like Oblivion came out and it was like there's nothing to 1026 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.320 play and that came out that summer. Yeah, and everyone like didn't really 1027 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:24.559 like it, but it was like, well, it's serviceable enough given that 1028 01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:29.760 there's mething else to play, so just shoot up some vagina into Yeah, 1029 01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:31.920 so that game looks great. I absolutely like it pushed all my buttons, 1030 01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:35.719 like I love Blade Runner of pulpy sci fi and the fact that it's an 1031 01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:40.280 open world and I Mirror's Edge, Assassin's Creed, like the vertical scale, 1032 01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:43.360 like just yeah, how does it? So? Was this just a demo 1033 01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:45.760 where you were actually playing the game or wasn't actually playing, but you know 1034 01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:47.239 it was a real time demo with about twenty minutes. How did How did 1035 01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:50.320 the traversal stuff looks? Because that always worries me in the first person, 1036 01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:53.880 Well, traversal stuff is really great because they addressed it in a couple of 1037 01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:56.559 different ways. So like they give you a lot of like, uh, 1038 01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:00.400 different ways to ascend. So they have like you know, grapples, and 1039 01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:04.000 you can you can jump very high. But one thing they addressed like, 1040 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.719 so we give you a lot of games, give you a lot of ways 1041 01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:09.880 to go up. The hard part is getting down because games are always like, 1042 01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:12.400 well, when you jump, you're gonna die. So they actually give 1043 01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:15.639 you like little boosters on your feet, right, so you can jump from 1044 01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:17.600 at any point at no matter of the height, and you can just you 1045 01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:21.439 know, hit those boosters their last second because when you the chase sequences, 1046 01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:25.600 these people are gonna be going over trains, they're gonna be jumping across buildings. 1047 01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:28.840 They have teleport technology, so you have to have the ability to keep 1048 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:31.359 up with them. And uh yeah, they just they they've addressed it in 1049 01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:34.800 every way possible that it makes it fun to go up and down and it's 1050 01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:39.680 just constant movement, constant movement, and that's and I love games where you're 1051 01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:42.800 always moving and you're not worried about hiding behind objects. You you know, 1052 01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.399 just you just go over it and it's just it is a real sense of 1053 01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:47.880 flow. And actually BioShock had the same sense of with the with Skyhooks. 1054 01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:51.920 I love games that you're always moving, you're just constantly doing something. You 1055 01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:56.000 have something to interact with. And at the same sense, it's not like 1056 01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:58.039 it's like, Okay, I'm in a combat center and I just kind of 1057 01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:00.880 eke my way forward for this thing. Get like like like a cover based 1058 01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:03.119 game where you're just like you just wait behind cover, so you have an 1059 01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:06.560 opportunity and you're just like pop up, pop up. Like these games are 1060 01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:10.239 very much like just keep moving, go somewhere else. If you're gonna go 1061 01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:12.840 up, you're gonna go down, like you just you always have another opportunity 1062 01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:16.199 to do something else. So was a good excellent anything else the epithet? 1063 01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:18.600 Or or was that what you were there for? That was pretty much there 1064 01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:20.600 when I was there for. And then I saw a ninja guy in three 1065 01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:25.720 and that has a lot of quick time events. Great, but but like 1066 01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:30.239 it has it like you know, button prompts on screen quick time events, 1067 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.760 but it's it's all happening so goddamn fast in that game. Y, it's 1068 01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:38.079 pretty much irrelevant that it's it's sort of like I'm already hammering this button because 1069 01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:40.359 it's the attack button. It's like there's you know, the two attacks. 1070 01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:42.319 There's kind of you know, a light and heavy kind of setup. So 1071 01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:45.159 it's like, yeah, I was already hitting square when you prompted me to 1072 01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:46.840 hit square. It was it was just weird. It's like I like I 1073 01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:50.680 interviewed like the guy who was uh works on Team Ninja and he helps like 1074 01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:54.960 localize they're they're different. He's when with teammateging for a while. She's localized 1075 01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:57.600 a bunch of Team Ninjas products, and it was like, because you know 1076 01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:00.159 Itagaki has gone. So this is Hayashi who had I had worked on Metroid 1077 01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:02.640 other m. So he's kind of like the de factor lead a Team Ninja 1078 01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:06.960 now and say, isn't like the game is really bloody and like Ninjaden one 1079 01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:11.640 and two were as well, but this one is just like likes dozers And 1080 01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:15.720 I was like, so material sprays, like what is like what and he 1081 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:17.880 was like and he has to really transcrib the answer, but like he described 1082 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.159 like they have like this skin and bone technology. They want to create emotional 1083 01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:25.560 resonance in the game because like when you kill people in a game, like 1084 01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:33.560 what are you doing with your life? So so there be the series is 1085 01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.199 like like when you're like, there'll be times where like the game will just 1086 01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:40.680 slow down, and like when you're slicing through, like you slice real slow 1087 01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:45.000 because they just want you to feel the crunch of the bones and slicing slicing 1088 01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:48.439 through the skin and the muscles, and they have like a specific technology for 1089 01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:53.960 it. They're like, I can't remember which it was. Add on that 1090 01:10:54.119 --> 01:11:00.119 just sounds gross. Dragons dragons, Dogma dragons fair enough, Sir H Marcus. 1091 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:05.880 Anything today that you've seen at the show that well, I obviously BioShock, 1092 01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:09.840 Yeah, that was I saved that as my last demo of the show. 1093 01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:13.439 I wanted to sort of like go out on a high, especially after 1094 01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.039 my wasted time at Ubisoft, and I was just I was blown away. 1095 01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:21.199 I was actually disappointed when the demo ended and I walked out knowing that it's 1096 01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:25.960 going to be a good twelve months before I actually get to put my hands 1097 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:28.800 on this game at least. Yeah, I mean at least they're saying the 1098 01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:32.279 fall of next year. And it was obviously very polished and you could see 1099 01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:35.840 that you know they'd worked on this particular segment for months and months. But 1100 01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:39.119 if they can do that with the rest of the game. I mean, 1101 01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:42.840 that's that's something that could just rewrite the record books. I honestly like watching 1102 01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:45.600 that demo, I had a hard time believing that is something a human being 1103 01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:48.439 can play. You know. It's just like there's so much going on, 1104 01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:54.640 there's so much chaos, like all the stuff, like, well, it's 1105 01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:57.680 it's stuff that they're working on, it's something they're they're very you know, 1106 01:11:57.960 --> 01:11:59.880 no I when I say that, I mean it's just like it was. 1107 01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:01.119 It was kind of awe inspiring in the way that like, you know, 1108 01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:03.439 you know, it's a live demo. You know, someone's playing. But 1109 01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:08.880 usually usually it's like the like there's certain things where like the you know, 1110 01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:11.960 the kind of the phase technology, like the phase stuff that they're they're doing 1111 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:15.319 with the with Elizabeth's hairs and the tears exactly where it's like, Okay, 1112 01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:17.079 there's a button promp, there's a there's a gameplay system, there's like a 1113 01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:19.640 button hold for this other thing for kind of choice stuff. Yeah, but 1114 01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:24.479 there's a lot of stuff where the gameplay systems aren't apparent and you're so used 1115 01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:27.479 to like, okay, you can you can kind of see and break down 1116 01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:30.560 like what the moving parts are behind the scenes a lot of that demo, 1117 01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:32.880 And I think it's what's really impressive about that, like, like you're saying, 1118 01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:36.720 Alex, is the fact that it's it's not apparent kind of like yeah, 1119 01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:40.479 like what's the trigger? Am I walking past this thing? And and 1120 01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:42.880 it's kind of a fucked up thing that you're thinking about it in that way 1121 01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:45.760 that you're like your first look at it is like it's like all right, 1122 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:47.000 like you know, how is you know, like what is the mechanic here? 1123 01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:50.159 Like what's the system? It's not just sort of like what's the experience? 1124 01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:55.720 But I felt like a lot of that demo feel it's you know, 1125 01:12:55.800 --> 01:13:00.560 a lot of the stuff with the skyhook is going to be based on destination. 1126 01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:04.439 You know. It's like when you see that little icon on screen, 1127 01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:08.039 as as you look around the environment, you know, you'll you'll see it 1128 01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:11.640 on other rails that you can connect to if you if you hit the button 1129 01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:14.680 at that point, you know, spots on the ground if you want to 1130 01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:17.479 dismount and uh and things like that. So you know that that's kind of 1131 01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:21.800 how they're addressing you know, like that sort of movement. But yeah, 1132 01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:25.359 it does seem like it's could be something to be very difficult. You know, 1133 01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:28.560 if you're up way high and you know there's rails down below, it's 1134 01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:30.000 like, how do you convey that to the player. And it's one of 1135 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.319 those things that, yeah, it's you know they're tackling just by getting to 1136 01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:35.920 where they've gotten with the skyhook. It makes it It sounds like this is 1137 01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:41.119 one of those hard problems where they know in like in their head, how 1138 01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:45.319 they want it to go, but you know, figuring that out and actually 1139 01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:46.760 making that into a full fledged gameplay system, you know, it is still 1140 01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:51.399 a work in progress. And yeah, I think that you know, there's 1141 01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:55.760 some things in that demo it's kind of hard to tell which parts a person 1142 01:13:55.880 --> 01:14:00.359 is pushing a controller and which parts are basically like cut scene if they are 1143 01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:02.279 taking taking movement away. Sure, I think that's something if you if you 1144 01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:06.279 do watch the demo, which I hope they put this demo out so everyone 1145 01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:10.000 can see it, it is really worth checking out. But you know, 1146 01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:14.840 there are moments in where there's no radical right that that to me says this 1147 01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:17.359 is the part you're not playing this bit of this s guy hook does seem 1148 01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.159 that that you're gonna need a little guidance, a little look like there was 1149 01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:23.960 like like a white circle. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's 1150 01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.439 when you if you get to dismount and other sort of but I mean specifically, 1151 01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:30.319 like when you're walking and Elizabeth has taken off to find this horse, 1152 01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:34.439 like the radical disappears for a while because I don't think you're in control anymore 1153 01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:38.279 at that point, at least direct you to where the next sequence is going 1154 01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:40.760 to start. Yeah, for some of those things, but but by and 1155 01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:44.800 large, it looked like that there was someone in control of of all that 1156 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:46.720 stuff, the Skyhoak stuff specifically. One of the things that this strikes me 1157 01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:50.479 though, is the Elizabeth character. There's nothing I hate more than they give 1158 01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:55.880 you a character and you have to babysitter and the fact that this this girl 1159 01:14:56.239 --> 01:15:00.680 is you know, can manage yourself and you don't. Here she doesn't want 1160 01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:02.239 to be baby savvy. Yeah, you have to get her out, but 1161 01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:08.159 the freedom not to worry about her allows you to jump on a skyhook, 1162 01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:11.159 scoot up and down, jump into a building, jump into an ash ship, 1163 01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:13.960 blow that shit out, come back down, and she's just you know, 1164 01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:16.359 she's still Then she's obviously somebody who can take care of herself. That's 1165 01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:18.880 a weight off because so many people it's like, you know, it's just 1166 01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:24.399 such a cop out when all right, well you can't go more than twenty 1167 01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:27.640 feet from the person you're doing the escort mission, right, Yeah, it's 1168 01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:30.920 like it's like it's what helped ruined Space Sims. Yeah, the escort mission. 1169 01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.399 You know, no one wants to play an escort mission. That part 1170 01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:36.640 was insane of the idea of like, wait, like that's that's the person 1171 01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:40.479 that clearly I need to be keeping tabs on here. But you know, 1172 01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:43.640 I'm getting pretty far away from her when going through that hole. But if 1173 01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:45.359 you pay attention to her through that sequence, like she is straight up like 1174 01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:48.039 vox popular guys are coming up to her, and she's like being over the 1175 01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:51.720 balls and taking out taking care of business. Yeah yeah, absolutely, But 1176 01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:56.840 but but it doesn't shoot everybody either. It's that distance thing though. It's 1177 01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:59.399 it's like like markt was saying, it's like you're used to just like if 1178 01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:02.920 you have like an AI squad, if you have a companion or sometimes they 1179 01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:05.880 are just fucking attached at the hip at all times. Yeah, and even 1180 01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:09.359 in that sequence, like when he gets onto that skyhook to go take out 1181 01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:11.720 of Zeppel, and there's straight up a line of dialogue that hey, stay 1182 01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.680 here, right so I can go take off and deal with this stuff literally. 1183 01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:16.279 Actually you're coming back down. You do see her kneeing some guy in 1184 01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:20.439 the balls. I wonder how much of that will, like, like, 1185 01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:26.000 how much of that dynamic dialogue or if it is dynamic, will play into 1186 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.840 when you're actually playing the game, Like, because when they stay here, 1187 01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:30.760 I mean, of course they've scripted this demo or these at least they set 1188 01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:33.520 up this demo to do grow a specific way. How much of that will 1189 01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:36.800 play into when you're actually It sounds like there will just be things in this 1190 01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:41.840 game that they are writing that if you don't end up doing some things in 1191 01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:45.399 the game, you won't see them, like that the part where she's wearing 1192 01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:48.000 the Lincoln head and stuff. If you don't go kind of poke around this 1193 01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:51.279 store and dig through all this stuff, like, you're gonna miss that stuff. 1194 01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:56.159 It almost seems like the equivalent of the audiologue or something. You know, 1195 01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:59.119 there'll just be things that if you don't explore every nook and cranny, 1196 01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:02.279 you're not gonna get every bit of dialogue. The audiologue is actual, like 1197 01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:08.640 scripted interesting experiences rather than being sort of like little pickups. Yeah, and 1198 01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:11.239 then I mean that's I like that book or to what speaks, Yeah, 1199 01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:14.880 I like that. I like the way he speaks and stuff. Yeah about 1200 01:17:14.920 --> 01:17:16.560 Roscoe's and Scratch. Yeah, but yeah, the other I mean that's what 1201 01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:19.319 you see an example that in that demo, like when you're about to go 1202 01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:23.680 to where the Vox popular, I've kind of taken over that section of town. 1203 01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:26.840 You can either split off and she said, as we can either go 1204 01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:30.960 get more supplies or we can go straight to the house, straight to Comstock 1205 01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.279 house. Right. Yeah, so there's like two like if you probably if 1206 01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:34.920 you go that other path, there's probably some other stuff you can do before. 1207 01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:39.159 You know, in that demo, you are stopping in execution. You 1208 01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:42.560 don't necessarily have to stop it and ask you you want to do this? 1209 01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:45.159 Hey, what happens if you don't because the rest of the action and that 1210 01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:48.039 demo is predicated on you having stopped that execution, right, And they wouldn't 1211 01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:50.760 they wouldn't talk about this. Yeah. I think it's just see how Elizabeth 1212 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:55.439 would have reacted that given when the horse was dying, how freaked out she 1213 01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:59.600 was that if you'd let that guy be executed, what would have been the 1214 01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:01.560 reaction? Where would that have taken you? That would be probably more interesting 1215 01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:04.000 than showing you a gunfights. Well, one of the things, uh, 1216 01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:09.000 the talking to Ken Levine about it, you know, he seemed very very 1217 01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:11.520 quick to say, like, she's not going to be like the angel on 1218 01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:14.880 your shoulders saying like we need to save these people. Uh, you know, 1219 01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:15.800 because she needs to get out of there. She needs to learn more 1220 01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:18.000 about herself and figure it out. So there's gonna be moments where she's like 1221 01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:21.560 turning to you going like, oh shit, this is like sort of the 1222 01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:25.760 we're looking each other figuring out what the hell are we gonna do here? 1223 01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:29.239 No easy answers, you know that that's that's kind of the the idea of 1224 01:18:29.279 --> 01:18:32.640 putting you into these uncomfortable situations seems like what the crux of that game is 1225 01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:36.119 going to be, as as you know, because it's because you're in the 1226 01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:42.680 middle of this war between these two factions on Ridiculous Sky City. Yeah, 1227 01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:45.199 and and I think between that and and the fact that they're willing to show 1228 01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:53.880 that tear in that game and where it takes you this early's a lot about 1229 01:18:53.920 --> 01:19:00.119 where that game can go. And that's like even like you could theoretic they 1230 01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:02.560 walk into those tears. Yeah, yeah, you might. You probably won't 1231 01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:05.520 spend your entire time in this game on Columbia. Yeah, but god, 1232 01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:08.560 I love the look of Columbia. Got it. Got it? Just like 1233 01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:13.119 the like irrational the ability to like conceive and realize these worlds. Just the 1234 01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:17.640 how just when they're walking around, how far you can see, how much 1235 01:19:17.640 --> 01:19:20.119 of it you can see it at any given moment in that demo, and 1236 01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:25.279 just just the level of detail and all of that stuff is Yeah, it's 1237 01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:29.239 just it's it's that stuff that I think is really important from a gameplay perspective 1238 01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:30.800 as well. I Mean, you have all these skyhooks that you're moving very 1239 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:35.000 quickly on. You need that ability to see all the way out, you 1240 01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:38.039 know, as far to the horizon as you as you can, you know, 1241 01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:40.079 as far as as they can they can allow with you know, while 1242 01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:42.319 still keeping the frame right. Yeah. And also you know, like the 1243 01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:45.439 the you know, the no loads during all of this stuff when he's flying 1244 01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:48.840 around, like covering a lot of ground in a big world with a lot 1245 01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:51.000 of details. So I guess it's you know, it's it's yeah, it's 1246 01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:54.159 a lot of ground, but it's all vertical ground. You know, you're 1247 01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:56.680 kind of in the town square the whole time. You're just going up and 1248 01:19:56.720 --> 01:20:00.279 dealing with this. Yeah this uh zeppelin, that's still ground. I mean 1249 01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.199 it is, but there's as much surrender it is, but it's as much 1250 01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:05.800 surrender whin it's like the only thing up in the sky with you is the 1251 01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:10.199 skyhook tracks and also the zeppelin. Like that's that's really it. It's like 1252 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:13.960 there's not as much geometry to deal with that there the one what was the 1253 01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:16.000 real quick just the last thing on that what was the way? He used 1254 01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:19.399 a really interesting word to describe what Columbia was when he was giving them like 1255 01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:23.920 the initial backstory, like because I mean the idea was that it's been this 1256 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:26.800 you know, it's this floating city. But it's like because it was meant 1257 01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.840 to be a symbol for you know, it was like a world's fair sight. 1258 01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:33.399 It was meant to be found the American ideal. It says what he 1259 01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:36.039 is when when I was sitting there was a way he described it as like 1260 01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:40.680 what it had become. It was like it's a boogeyman. Yeah, the 1261 01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:43.880 booge It was like a flying boogeyman that just sort of goes around and sort 1262 01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:45.439 of like imposes this will on the rest of the world. You know. 1263 01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:49.680 The whole thing is set off by Colombia basically going over to China and you 1264 01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:53.720 know, killing a bunch of civilians and then disappearing. Yeah, you know, 1265 01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:56.960 which I guess at that point the US disavows on it just says like 1266 01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:00.119 we that's not us man. Yeah, And I I think that is one 1267 01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:04.960 of the most bizarre and fascinating backstories for like any game I have ever heard 1268 01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:09.199 before. Like I I that that is the part I'm arguably most interested in. 1269 01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:11.960 It's just like deep diving into like what the fuck is any of this 1270 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:15.359 game, like this backstory about, because it just looks amazing, Like, 1271 01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:17.880 yeah, like what is the what is the world on the Like all of 1272 01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:21.680 BioShock, you you you constantly wonder like what is the world on the ground, 1273 01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:25.920 Like if this is like going on under here? This is what the 1274 01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:29.840 fantastical is, either you know, in the sky in infinite or you know, 1275 01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:32.880 underwater in the original of Like okay, you have some basis at least 1276 01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:38.399 esthetically and conceptually in in you know, in history and in reality, but 1277 01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:42.560 you know, you've a split occurred at some point and it's hard to tell 1278 01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:45.239 how far in the past that was. And I want to explore that schism 1279 01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:49.039 like as much as humanly possible. Like the more the more they throw into 1280 01:21:49.039 --> 01:21:53.239 that stuff, like the happier I will be most certain way. That's fascinating. 1281 01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:56.439 And it definitely an amazing demou marcuts. So it sound like that was 1282 01:21:56.479 --> 01:21:58.720 your your highlight of the day without a death, that was the kind of 1283 01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:00.079 the day. And then over the last couple he has been Arkham City, 1284 01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:03.800 Big Batlane fan Boy. I thought that was just phenomenal, the fact that 1285 01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:09.000 they've made the game prettier yet filthier and increased the size of it. And 1286 01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:12.399 then there was another game on the Warner Brother's booth really kind of like blindsided 1287 01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:16.479 me and took me back to almost like Shining Force and Secret of Gaia on 1288 01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:20.239 the on the NS back in the day, and that was Bastion. And 1289 01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:25.920 it was also a really surreal moment for me because obviously you know who the 1290 01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:30.680 creative director is and yeah, six years ago I was pitching him on games 1291 01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:36.600 and yesterday he was pitching me on his game. It was total role reversal 1292 01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:41.560 this industry, Like, how fucking weird is it? Well? The thing, 1293 01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:43.880 I mean, your start off as journalists, you go into pr and 1294 01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:46.479 then you you either move into marketing or creative design or you go back to 1295 01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:49.079 being a journalist when you get to a certain age, and then it's just 1296 01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:54.439 everybody gets younger or and people start pitching you on stuff, and it's really 1297 01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:57.920 kind of creepy. I was. I was at the judges event showing I 1298 01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:00.279 fortuport manning the sled that you guys were talking about earlier, and Gregg was 1299 01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:03.760 right behind me at at Bashton and it's just that's my old boss right behind 1300 01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:10.199 me, got his game. I've got my sled. I guess at some 1301 01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:15.359 point your photographer was taking pictures of me playing forts and fourth that real and 1302 01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:17.439 it ended up in a promo unit on the dash somewhere nice. So people 1303 01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:20.279 I've been getting like messages like the back of your heads on the dash and 1304 01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:23.239 I'm like, it's a little weird that you can recognize the back of my 1305 01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:28.159 head. So is this Brian, Is this your first full on E three 1306 01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:30.680 with Turn ten? Yes? Yeah, so how has this experience been for 1307 01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:33.920 you? Man? It's uh, I have to say, I told people, 1308 01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:38.039 has ever run into to him today? It's you have this feeling of 1309 01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:42.319 you're so immersed in your game that, at least for me, I've been 1310 01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:45.880 not completely but mostly disconnected from the rest of the industry. So when I 1311 01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:49.960 come to E three for twenty eleven, it's like when I came to E 1312 01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:54.359 three for the first time in Atlanta and I had no idea what the industry 1313 01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:58.279 was about, and everything was new, and it's like so many things that 1314 01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:00.640 I had never even heard of, or at least that hurt a title, 1315 01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:02.479 but didn't know what the game is all about. So it's like really coming 1316 01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:05.479 back and seeing things with new eyes because there's so much new stuff. I'm 1317 01:24:05.479 --> 01:24:08.760 like, what is Payday? What is all this other stuff that i've What 1318 01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:11.760 is BioShock? You know? I hear good things on Twitter, but I 1319 01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:15.119 haven't seen it. So it's it's kind of refreshing in that sense to Company 1320 01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:19.319 three and see, you know how it is when you're in the industry, 1321 01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:25.399 you know everything that's going to happen at E three before before we even get 1322 01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:28.119 here. So it was it was you know, it's it's the typical sort 1323 01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:30.600 of like once the press conferences are over, it's it's the like, all 1324 01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:31.840 right, well E three is almost over, and even and even before that, 1325 01:24:31.960 --> 01:24:34.399 it's more like a you know, dotting eyes and crossing t's stuff. 1326 01:24:34.439 --> 01:24:39.560 It's like exactly well stuff, but we need to hear them say it right 1327 01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:42.399 and and then say the name of this thing or say the price of this 1328 01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:44.840 thing. Yeah, you know. Of course, the flip side of that 1329 01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:46.800 is that I've been, you know, spending most of my time at the 1330 01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:50.039 booth. I haven't had a lot of time to go out and explore. 1331 01:24:50.199 --> 01:24:55.479 So today I finished up and I just started running around and seen as much 1332 01:24:55.479 --> 01:24:58.720 as I could, which admittedly wasn't a lot, but it was still like 1333 01:24:58.760 --> 01:25:00.119 I felt like, you know, kid the candy store, just running around 1334 01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:03.560 seeing that looks school at school, any highlights for you, well, you 1335 01:25:03.560 --> 01:25:06.239 guys know me. The first place I went was THEA and I was checking 1336 01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:11.399 out the NCAA football That's the only game I wanted to play beyond you know 1337 01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:15.359 what we were showing. And and I went to go see the UFC three 1338 01:25:15.720 --> 01:25:19.600 demo, which looks really cool. Yeah, they're adding pride into that like 1339 01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:25.560 face stomp, Yeah exactly, soccer kicks, Yeah, soccer kicks. And 1340 01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:29.319 that they're redoing the submission system. Well no more of this, you know. 1341 01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:33.520 So I'm not sure how little weird the thing. I don't have a 1342 01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:39.560 problem with them changing the submission system, but because this I didn't necessarily like 1343 01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:43.920 the spinning of the hand thing. But my problem with it was that the 1344 01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:46.800 graphic that they put over the screen completely conceals the fighters, so you don't 1345 01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:50.239 really get that sense of two, you know, them struggling in this submission 1346 01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:56.119 because there's this overlay of the of the mini game. So I want to 1347 01:25:56.119 --> 01:26:00.079 see the looks of pain on the two sweaty, half naked men hugging each 1348 01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:02.000 other. Yeah, I actually see that facial expression. Yeah, I want 1349 01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:05.560 to personally, I want to smell it. Yeah, but we probably got 1350 01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:11.680 the smell because the generation. Yeah, we'll get there, we'll get there. 1351 01:26:13.159 --> 01:26:16.359 Vision finally, Actually true story. I had a guy come up to 1352 01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:21.000 me yesterday at the Forts of Booth and pitched me on a smell machine and 1353 01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:25.920 then you saw some smell machines g DC this year. Really is that coming 1354 01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:28.960 back again? Because I remember, you know, let's say eight years ago, 1355 01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:33.560 when they were trying to creepy gray boxes. Yes, and he's like, 1356 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:38.199 we could do a game, we could do a cartridge for burning rubber, 1357 01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:43.439 whatever you want. I'm like, why why would anyone want? I 1358 01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:48.479 know, I car lot, we do, like you can we do that? 1359 01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:50.760 I mean, the holy grail for that stuff was always like, you 1360 01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:54.760 have to figure out some way to just combine things so you don't have to 1361 01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:58.920 do a custom cartridge, right right, But it sounds like they're still And 1362 01:26:59.039 --> 01:27:01.119 he told me a good decade away from cracking that one. Well, he's 1363 01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:04.359 like he had the full business plan together. He's like, we're usb power 1364 01:27:04.439 --> 01:27:06.720 now, but we're gonna come out with a wireless one soon. And they 1365 01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:10.560 were prototyping one you can wear on your vest or something like that. I'm 1366 01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:13.680 like, so the next time I don't I don't wear vests, well is 1367 01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:16.479 going to be You're gonna have to start wearing vests. In the future everyone 1368 01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:18.680 wears vests. And you got it. So the next time one of those 1369 01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:21.319 guys comes at Year and you want to scan them off, looks I'm dead 1370 01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:25.319 in the eye, dead serious, and say, can you replicate the smell 1371 01:27:25.359 --> 01:27:29.239 of dead hooker in my trunk? Just nice and serious. Just give him 1372 01:27:29.239 --> 01:27:31.600 that little glint in your eye and little smiles. That's what drives me. 1373 01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:36.880 Fabricate some sweat on your upper lip. It's like, let's do it so 1374 01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:43.439 so a little nub, a little UFC. Yeah, and that's about it, 1375 01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:45.399 honestly. Well, I went over to the Nintendo booth just to see 1376 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:48.159 the EU because I'd seen so much about it, and I saw the Shield 1377 01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:51.600 game in Actually I didn't obviously, no way was I gonna get to play 1378 01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:56.439 it because the line was ridiculous. But I ran through there, ran past 1379 01:27:56.479 --> 01:27:59.079 the Vita things just to see what it looked like. And uh, and 1380 01:27:59.119 --> 01:28:01.680 that was pretty much my So what was the you know, other than you 1381 01:28:01.720 --> 01:28:04.399 know, it's I guess at a certain point it's kind of hard to parse 1382 01:28:04.439 --> 01:28:12.840 out the the method in which you guys are are presenting forts before but from 1383 01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:15.840 from the game itself. But what was what's the reaction been? Like, 1384 01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:17.720 how are you guys feeling right now? We feel fantastic. I mean, 1385 01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:24.079 it's amazing. We we showed a lot of different ways of playing for at 1386 01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:27.319 the booth, at the judges event, at the party we had last night. 1387 01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:30.399 We you know, we had the controller set up. We had the 1388 01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:33.560 full sled that we've already talked about with hydraulics. We have our Connect head 1389 01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:38.520 tracking thing, and we have the Connect pods. So all of these different 1390 01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:43.760 ways sort of add up to kind of how we think about where car racing 1391 01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:47.239 games need to go. You know, if you played the Forts the series 1392 01:28:47.239 --> 01:28:50.840 before, you know that we're all about realistic raising, We're all about hundreds 1393 01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:55.199 of cars, and of course we were going to continue to do that because 1394 01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:59.520 that's what that's what our core audience wants, and that's what that's what the 1395 01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:04.239 studio loves in essence, but we also want to bring in new people and 1396 01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:08.439 say, hey, cars are cool. You know, we want we want 1397 01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:13.279 to show people. We want to basically turn game fans into car fans and 1398 01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:16.000 vice versas. So we have you know, things like the Auto Vista where 1399 01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:20.479 you can see these cars and walk around them and listen to Jeremy Clarkson talk 1400 01:29:20.479 --> 01:29:24.760 about them, and that's where there's some connect integration there. There's connect integration 1401 01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:27.960 there. Yeah, you probably you know we showed that last year at at 1402 01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:31.960 E three, but it's really come a long way graphically and otherwise. We 1403 01:29:32.039 --> 01:29:36.720 just want to give people a sense of these cars that you may never see 1404 01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:41.119 in real life or maybe never get to, you know, in person, 1405 01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:44.479 but experience them, learn about them. We're trying to teach people about cars, 1406 01:29:44.760 --> 01:29:46.520 just really share our passion for cars. We love them, and just 1407 01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:53.600 out of curiosity, when can I start wrecking them through buildings? When can 1408 01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:56.880 I do takedowns and furs? I was just thinking of sitting here, thinking 1409 01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:00.239 like, how how odd it was like your brand Eckward se we talking about 1410 01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:04.520 turn ten and then realizing that you are literally wearing forts of socks right now? 1411 01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:09.079 These are these are actually not these? These are kind of like these 1412 01:30:09.079 --> 01:30:14.640 are like hanging ten socks? Are they? I wish they were? From 1413 01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:16.640 from this From this angle, it kind of looks like if only there was 1414 01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:21.119 such a thing as forts, I think that's something that the community would enjoy 1415 01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:26.439 it. I'd be wearing them on my hands for their avatar. So how's 1416 01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:30.840 how's your driving personally? Because so so you know, like like I imagine 1417 01:30:30.920 --> 01:30:33.319 kind of the culture of that studio, Uh, you know, you'd be 1418 01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:36.960 surprised. We've got some guys that are unbelievable. Yeah, but we've also 1419 01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.279 got folks who you know, are just into cars. We got folks. 1420 01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:45.359 It's it's it's not it's a studio that loves cars, but it's not a 1421 01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:47.880 studio of like forts of you know, obsessives who play it all the time. 1422 01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:51.039 And it's all different skill levels. We've you know, we all love 1423 01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:54.199 the game. We all I don't know what I mean, like actually in 1424 01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:57.479 real life and real because because that's that's kind of where I I assume like 1425 01:30:57.479 --> 01:31:01.720 there has to be at some level of real world passion that's driving at least 1426 01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:05.960 you know, a percentage of people there when I first when you first start 1427 01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:11.239 at turn ten. We have our meetings every three weeks where the whole team 1428 01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:13.920 meets and if you're new, you have to introduce yourself and they ask you 1429 01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:16.000 what you drive. When I when I moved up to Seattle, I didn't 1430 01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:20.079 have a car, so I was like, I drive the bus, I 1431 01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:24.439 drive my walk to work, you know, because my wife had the car. 1432 01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:28.800 She was still in the Bay Area. So yeah, I mean I 1433 01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:31.239 still suck. Yeah. I saw I saw the stuff that you were posting 1434 01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:35.159 about going and doing some rally racing stuff, doing a little drifting and stuff. 1435 01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:39.439 How was that was that experience? That was cool? Is this rally 1436 01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:42.880 school up in snow Qualmy, Washington, which is not far from Redmond, 1437 01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:45.119 where the main Microsoft campus is. It's called dirt Fish. They invited us 1438 01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:48.439 up there. We got to drive rally cars. And driving a rally car 1439 01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:54.600 is fun, but it's nowhere near as fun as riding in the car with 1440 01:31:54.640 --> 01:31:59.000 a guy who knows what he's doing, because those guys are insane and they 1441 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:01.319 will scare the crowd out of you, and they love at the map the 1442 01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:08.039 whole time and go left turns sixty. Yea, I feel like Nicky Griss, 1443 01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:10.560 but no, it's there. It was. It was awesome. It's 1444 01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:12.840 not like going up like in a fight, like a fighter jet with an 1445 01:32:12.880 --> 01:32:15.720 experienced pile Like they're just like trying to make you puke the whole time. 1446 01:32:15.800 --> 01:32:16.920 Yeah, and they're totally casual about it. Yeah, like, yeah, 1447 01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:19.479 we're gonna go through the woods here and it's gonna get a little tight. 1448 01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:24.680 Don't worry about it. I mean, while like the you know, the 1449 01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:28.840 bushes are like scraping the car. You're scraping the car and they're doing drifts 1450 01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:31.840 at at eighty miles an hour and in a road that's probably six feet wide. 1451 01:32:32.439 --> 01:32:36.479 I gotta ask obviously being a Britain you said the magic words Jeremy Clarkson, 1452 01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:40.079 right, who is just an absolute god. I mean the top gear, 1453 01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:44.199 you know, involving the British top Gear and when you've got this the 1454 01:32:44.239 --> 01:32:48.239 American versions, no we don't thank you, No we don't. So you 1455 01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:50.000 know, I look, I'm with you. I mean, having watched the 1456 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:53.520 American version, it's like, God bless them for trying to put it in. 1457 01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:56.039 But I mean, what's you know, how was it working with those 1458 01:32:56.079 --> 01:32:58.319 guys? I mean, do you do much work with regards to you know, 1459 01:32:58.640 --> 01:33:00.960 liaising with them or it were pre recorded and came over. The whole 1460 01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:04.479 thing with top Gear for us has been a real collaborative, a creative collaboration. 1461 01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:10.279 I mean, just speaking of Jeremy in particular, he's got voice over 1462 01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:13.920 in the Auto Vista feature. He's basically giving you information about these cars. 1463 01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:18.640 But it's totally Jeremy's editorial spin and everything. So if he doesn't like one 1464 01:33:18.680 --> 01:33:24.039 of the cars and Auto Vista, he's gonna say it, and he does 1465 01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:28.680 say and he's he's very you know, it's it's Clarkson being Clarkson. We 1466 01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:31.159 we you know, he wrote his scripts. We said, these are the 1467 01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:34.199 cars we'd like to do and and we're like, do your thing. So 1468 01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:39.399 he he's absolutely Jeremy and that's what we love about it. And any top 1469 01:33:39.439 --> 01:33:42.399 Gear challenges there will be uh, well, you know we have the test 1470 01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:45.960 track. We've got the top Gear test track and the Stag. Yeah, 1471 01:33:45.720 --> 01:33:50.279 celebrity, we witnesses to do the test track. Yes, at the party 1472 01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:53.720 all the way in from the UK. You had this Stig last night. 1473 01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:58.720 Helmet. Yeah, that was him and he does not speak and that's no 1474 01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:01.239 joke. It's like they were trying to interview him and he would not because 1475 01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:04.079 he wants something to drink or something. He's not He's on the back and 1476 01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:08.760 sip some real quick. Yeah, no he was. He was stone cold. 1477 01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:12.000 Yeah, he's stone cold man. He's all about driving. Wait stone 1478 01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:16.039 cold. Steve Boston's a stick said that. Some say he drinks his own 1479 01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:21.079 sweat. You you got it. Well, it's that's exciting stuff. It 1480 01:34:21.079 --> 01:34:25.279 sounds like things are going well for you Turn ten. I can say the 1481 01:34:25.319 --> 01:34:29.279 game looks great. Thanks you. It's just you know, FORSTA was the 1482 01:34:29.560 --> 01:34:33.359 series that that actually enabled me to play simulation style racing game. You know, 1483 01:34:33.439 --> 01:34:36.159 the just the adapted driving line and that that sort of stuff. Yeah, 1484 01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:41.199 it's been and you know, it also gives me some exciting stuff to 1485 01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:44.359 do outside of the car. It's like all the community stuff with the decaluse 1486 01:34:44.479 --> 01:34:46.680 vinyls and all that stuff has just been so much fun. I remember trying 1487 01:34:46.720 --> 01:34:49.680 to buy my Pringles car. Yes, all that so so do you actually 1488 01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:54.560 have to go through? And who do you have like a team that goes 1489 01:34:54.600 --> 01:34:57.800 through. It's he's like this is inappropriate? Oh yes, or that's not, 1490 01:34:58.039 --> 01:34:59.880 that's not you? Whorre do you help out with that a little? 1491 01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:02.359 I'm all, yeah, all up in the craziest thing you've seen on a 1492 01:35:02.359 --> 01:35:08.239 car. I have seen things. I know you guys don't allow you're cool 1493 01:35:08.279 --> 01:35:12.399 with cursing here and everything. I can't say what the stuff that I've seen, 1494 01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:17.279 even fear I can't say it so are Let's just say they get creative. 1495 01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:21.520 They like At first, I was like, you know, this is 1496 01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:26.199 kind of funny. Some of the things I'm seeing. They're they're bad, 1497 01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:31.439 they're but they're humorous. It's not funny anymore. There's no it's two stick 1498 01:35:31.479 --> 01:35:39.800 figures doing it. It's like, get some please innovate on the same way 1499 01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:45.239 that we innovate on driving games. Want you guys to be your best. 1500 01:35:45.319 --> 01:35:47.720 Yeah, you guys not to like interview you by the game. But has 1501 01:35:48.119 --> 01:35:51.800 the vinyl system changed in this game? You started talking about that stuff. 1502 01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:56.439 Yet the vinyl system is gonna be is gonna be pretty much the same. 1503 01:35:57.359 --> 01:35:59.600 It works, People love it, people know how to work it, and 1504 01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:02.079 they do amazing things with it. What one thing we are doing is that 1505 01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:08.399 everything you created in three you bring right over to four, so you don't 1506 01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:11.279 you're starting from a great spot if you spend a lot of time with it. 1507 01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:14.479 That That was one of the things that I didn't like about the transition 1508 01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:16.399 between from two to three is like I spent a lot of time in two 1509 01:36:16.399 --> 01:36:19.680 painting stuff, and you felt like, well, I spent all this time 1510 01:36:19.720 --> 01:36:23.399 and I'm not really getting for anything for it. With three and four, 1511 01:36:23.479 --> 01:36:28.279 we recognize that people spends hours and hours and spending painting Bruce Lee on their 1512 01:36:28.319 --> 01:36:30.840 car. Bring it over, you'll have a head start in the storefront. 1513 01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:33.399 When you get there, you'll make some money. So yeah, any fan 1514 01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:39.039 service, any connects support plans for that whole thing. Any people taking pictures 1515 01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:42.720 of you know, their own art or images and whatever. Yeah, nothing 1516 01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:45.600 like that. I mean, we feel we feel well that. Plus we 1517 01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:48.319 feel like Deliverer editor works. People know how to work it, and it's 1518 01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:51.600 it's not it's not alien to anyone anymore. So we didn't feel the need 1519 01:36:51.680 --> 01:36:56.119 to to change change the basics of it accessible to anyone. But some of 1520 01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:58.680 the stuff I see, it's ridiculous, you know, just and you can 1521 01:36:58.760 --> 01:37:00.039 go through and look at the lay and kind of see how they did it. 1522 01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:02.479 But I don't know that I could ever do that. I know we've 1523 01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:05.359 We've got two guys on my team who that's kind of how they got their 1524 01:37:05.399 --> 01:37:10.800 start was through painting, and we hired them and they do like the crazy 1525 01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:15.199 Halo car, and they do like whenever whenever Microsoft released the game, we'll 1526 01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:16.199 do a car for it, like Limbo. We did a Limbo car, 1527 01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:20.520 Halo Reach car, all black Limbo car. It's a shadow. I can 1528 01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:26.680 pay the Lombo car, ye think, yeah, so so. But they 1529 01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:30.000 just whipped those out and it's like they've got a graphic design background, so 1530 01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:32.479 they have some formal training, but there's plenty of people out there who don't 1531 01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:36.479 have any And like I did, I did the I did the Scottish flag. 1532 01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:41.039 Nice. Yeah, thanks, I appreciate. I did the Swiss flag. 1533 01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:45.880 I did a Space Invader. Yes, I remember the Space Invader pretty 1534 01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:47.520 well. I seem to remember. I made some money. It was nice. 1535 01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:53.520 They split a number three on one of my cars, a background with 1536 01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:57.439 an X on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I did 1537 01:37:57.439 --> 01:37:59.960 that. He's not bragging, he's just saying that. I'm telling you, 1538 01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:02.600 Alice, confession. You get in there. But see the thing is, 1539 01:38:02.640 --> 01:38:05.520 I created all my flags and forts of three, but I got the got 1540 01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:09.800 in early on the storefront. I created like fifty flags like Germany. It's 1541 01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:13.079 like it's like yellow, red and brown or whatever. And that's like I 1542 01:38:13.119 --> 01:38:15.159 made so much money off of those those flags because I was the first to 1543 01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:18.760 market. Ye didn't make a Welsh flag. I will flag is cool? 1544 01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:24.239 We have a fucking red dragon on too much to a picture of the goldie 1545 01:38:24.239 --> 01:38:28.039 looking chain. Yeah, I need I need basic geometrical shapes and then I'm 1546 01:38:28.039 --> 01:38:31.359 good. But it's really good. With with that Kanye West song. Great, 1547 01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:36.359 what is it? Sir? Song being the game? Yes or no? 1548 01:38:38.119 --> 01:38:42.119 To be determined, Sorry guys, Yeah, but Jeremy Clarkson will be 1549 01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:45.279 singing it. I would pay. I'll listen to that. I'll give that 1550 01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:48.760 a space. Would buy a limited edition if it came with that, why 1551 01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:53.720 not? Chris Tilton? Yes, anything you want to talk about from the 1552 01:38:53.800 --> 01:38:58.079 day's events, Yes, that you saw before. Before I move on to 1553 01:38:58.199 --> 01:39:00.399 the things I saw today, I would like to just briefly mentioned for assistance 1554 01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:05.159 where I did play it. We've been mentioning it. Yeah. The one 1555 01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:10.239 thing I had always I've been playing the Grand Turismo game since the first one, 1556 01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:13.000 and the one thing that I always loved about the Grand Turismo games is 1557 01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:16.640 there was a clear passion and emotion that's shown through those games, like we're 1558 01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:20.279 gonna position the sun here because it's gonna create an awesome lighting effect on like 1559 01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:24.560 the Seattle course, it's gonna look great, and and it was kind of 1560 01:39:24.600 --> 01:39:27.199 a thing I was missing from Forts to one and two, but when fourts 1561 01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:29.199 to three game, they really started to get it. And Forts of four 1562 01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:32.159 I think they've really nailed it. There's like a clear passion and emotion that 1563 01:39:32.920 --> 01:39:36.720 there was. I'm sure there was always passionate emotion in development. Yeah, 1564 01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:40.159 it's beyond the karmas. It's on the course, it's on the lighting, 1565 01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:44.560 it's on the driving and it's and I'm sure there was always passionate emotions that 1566 01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:47.520 went into the game. It's really shining through to the player now. And 1567 01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:53.039 I think Forts of four, I think is I won't I don't want to 1568 01:39:53.079 --> 01:39:59.399 say definitively, but it could definitively be like it surpasses Grand Turismo in all 1569 01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:02.640 aspects. I mean, they've been making a good like grant Rismo is a 1570 01:40:02.640 --> 01:40:06.640 good simulator when you're on the course. All the other things around it are 1571 01:40:08.199 --> 01:40:10.840 really dated and Forts has kind of really made a game out of it. 1572 01:40:11.039 --> 01:40:16.880 Yeah, absolutely, but in any come on in welcome. But I saw 1573 01:40:16.920 --> 01:40:21.520 Skyrim today and that was awesome. Yeah who did? Who else saw sky 1574 01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:24.720 I saw it a couple weeks before the show, but I think, okay, 1575 01:40:24.800 --> 01:40:28.239 so yeah, I'm sure it was about thirty minutes. It's really long, 1576 01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:36.840 yep, fighting dragons, Yeah it was. It was kind of alliances 1577 01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:42.039 just to make people homeless. I'll start out with. The most disappointing thing 1578 01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:44.119 is and I kind of saw it coming just because I kind of saw it 1579 01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:48.239 you footage earlier, was that the melee combat is still just you hitting a 1580 01:40:48.279 --> 01:40:51.439 button and your swords swinging, and like if you're near the dude, it 1581 01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:56.880 hits them and energy gets taken away. Yeah, it's kind of yeah, 1582 01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:00.159 but the magic seems a lot more in depth and a lot cooler, and 1583 01:41:00.159 --> 01:41:03.279 it's being able to put the same spell in both hands to do better. 1584 01:41:04.760 --> 01:41:15.079 It's like you got just like that gas. Yeah. So but the interface, 1585 01:41:15.159 --> 01:41:18.119 the interface like may having a favorite's menu and being able to choose your 1586 01:41:18.119 --> 01:41:21.199 favorite spells and items and things and being able to quick make that a little 1587 01:41:21.239 --> 01:41:26.800 quick thing, and the menus are really slick. Interface so much better. 1588 01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:30.359 And finally, the biggest thing that I am so happy about is that when 1589 01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:32.880 I'm gonna stop talking to someone, you just walk away from the person. 1590 01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:41.680 God And and also it doesn't zoom in and do the creepy I'm staring in 1591 01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:45.800 your face that. Yeah, it kind of weird, but it is a 1592 01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:49.119 little but at least they're kind of stopped, and they kind of they kind 1593 01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:53.159 of stopped, but if they've peered a little more chill while they're talking to 1594 01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:56.680 you, and uh, the while you're talking to them, you can look 1595 01:41:56.720 --> 01:41:59.960 around and the things you have to say come up. On a real night, 1596 01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:03.119 I subtle clean menu off to the side a little bit and and even 1597 01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:05.720 if you want to just immediately stop talking, you just walk away from him 1598 01:42:05.760 --> 01:42:09.479 and that's cool, or you can hit a button to cancel out whatever. 1599 01:42:10.119 --> 01:42:13.319 You don't actually have to go find the thing, getting back to menu, 1600 01:42:13.479 --> 01:42:15.239 get to this. I want to stop talking to you now, right, 1601 01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:20.600 And so that's a lot better, And it's probably gonna be much more enjoyable 1602 01:42:20.640 --> 01:42:24.840 to walk through towns and talk to people. It's gonna be a lot more 1603 01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:27.800 fluid. I mean, I'm just guessing he only kind of went and talked 1604 01:42:27.840 --> 01:42:31.359 to one person, right, But it that's one of the main things I 1605 01:42:31.359 --> 01:42:34.640 love. I love finding the new town and seeing what everyone has to say 1606 01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:38.800 about this world and things like that. And that's gonna be a lot more 1607 01:42:38.840 --> 01:42:42.239 fluid. It isn't really curious that I have a have a friend of mine 1608 01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:45.720 U sysequent Terry or sit over at Area five. The way he plays all 1609 01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:47.840 of oblivions or all of it. But as the games is, he is 1610 01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:53.199 an asshole. Yeah. He he just puts all of his points into melee. 1611 01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:55.960 He goes around with a big club, he takes off all of his 1612 01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:59.399 clothes in the game, and then he just kills everyone in every town he 1613 01:42:59.479 --> 01:43:05.119 encounters. Destroys all quest lines and just decimates everybody throughout the entire land. 1614 01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:09.520 He did it from Fallout three, did an Oblivion, he didn't New Vegas 1615 01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:11.880 and like, you're missing a lot of the game. He's like, yeah, 1616 01:43:11.920 --> 01:43:15.479 but he's gonna have our children. I just I just club whole towns 1617 01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:18.039 and I just everything. He just immediately goes into town kills the first person. 1618 01:43:18.079 --> 01:43:21.399 It's just like Quest failed, Quest failed. Well, I really going 1619 01:43:21.479 --> 01:43:26.079 to see that in this game because because they have a pretty like what they 1620 01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:30.800 had Radiant AI. They have Radiant story quests and basically they can reroute quests 1621 01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:34.680 through people. You can kill every get them, well everyone the world, 1622 01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:43.399 killer everyone forever. Radiant kind of like a kind of a rough childhood Is 1623 01:43:43.439 --> 01:43:47.199 that is that? The thing? Is this like like like enough? Yeah, 1624 01:43:47.640 --> 01:43:51.840 uh, Chris, anything anything else? It sounds like it was a 1625 01:43:51.840 --> 01:43:57.880 big highlight. Yeah, well we touched you. We touched on Pray two. 1626 01:43:57.880 --> 01:43:59.960 I saw Pray too. That was that was that was really cool? 1627 01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:04.239 Yeah, Patrick said enough about that. And also at the digs at das 1628 01:44:04.399 --> 01:44:09.920 X, which are unfortunate. It does play like a stiff old game with 1629 01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:13.359 poor lighting. It was also a poor Demoo show because you have to sit 1630 01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:15.479 through dialogue and dialogue and cut scenes for like five minutes. You can't hear 1631 01:44:15.479 --> 01:44:23.960 anything because it's and uh so that was of all the hope and the positive 1632 01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:26.760 buzz that has been going around the game for the past year. It was 1633 01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:30.239 really disappointing to finally play the game and be like it does. It does 1634 01:44:30.960 --> 01:44:32.960 to those kinds of games, credit it. Those are not games that you 1635 01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:35.399 should be playing at a kiosk on a show for Yeah. Also, I 1636 01:44:35.439 --> 01:44:40.000 love the first DASX, I even like the second one. Wow, So 1637 01:44:40.760 --> 01:44:43.319 I am still sure to play it. I'm looking forward to playing. I'm 1638 01:44:43.319 --> 01:44:46.159 hoping it was just a really bad demo. It's gonna be problems, there's 1639 01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:49.239 anything, even the Bill that I've played, you know, I feel like 1640 01:44:49.239 --> 01:44:53.760 three or four hours, like some of those games don't really present themselves, 1641 01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:57.119 you know, till much later. So I'm hopeful I'm going to play that 1642 01:44:57.119 --> 01:45:00.439 game, regardless of yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna play it. Just want 1643 01:45:00.439 --> 01:45:04.319 to temper people's hopes for it, because it's not gonna be like the day 1644 01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:08.319 Sex two. We all hope I've been I've been getting a weird alpha protocol. 1645 01:45:08.640 --> 01:45:11.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think. I don't think it's 1646 01:45:11.800 --> 01:45:16.119 gonna be as broken. Yeah, I don't. I don't think it's gonna 1647 01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:20.680 be as broken as gameplay wise as Alpha Protocol was. Yeah, I hope. 1648 01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:24.960 I couldn't get I couldn't get past like the second mission in that game 1649 01:45:25.039 --> 01:45:28.319 in Alpha Protocol because it was But anyway, well, I know that he 1650 01:45:28.399 --> 01:45:30.520 used to work there. You can you can bug about that if you want 1651 01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:32.640 to, like some fixes on that. Oh did he work on He also 1652 01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:35.159 likes Believe. He worked on Belief. He also likes puppies. Yeah, 1653 01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:39.199 but also you know that about it. I didn't know that he worked on 1654 01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:42.000 Alpha Protocol. Yeah, he worked ont Apa. Was that by Obsidian? 1655 01:45:42.479 --> 01:45:45.600 Did want at Obsidian? He worked at Obsidian. He used to work at 1656 01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:50.079 Obsidian on Alpha Protocol. Good to know that the same time broke fall Out 1657 01:45:50.119 --> 01:45:57.199 in Vegas? Uh yeah, well that was that was even it was already 1658 01:45:57.199 --> 01:46:02.319 broken by the time that was a byro or whatever that crap. Yeah, 1659 01:46:02.840 --> 01:46:06.359 yeah, you gotta see you gotta see a sorry, but you see a 1660 01:46:06.399 --> 01:46:11.439 pattern. It comes to Obsidian. They great, they write great stories on 1661 01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:15.880 break engines. Yeah, I think I think that's a pretty fair assessment. 1662 01:46:15.399 --> 01:46:20.880 Uh, for me, like Faught New Vegas is a definitely a flawed game, 1663 01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:25.680 but damn if there isn't some amazing writing in it, and and there 1664 01:46:25.720 --> 01:46:29.520 is definitely times of all of yes, man is is awesome. There are 1665 01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:31.319 and there's stuff like that that can carry a lot of that experience. So 1666 01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:38.600 yeah, But so I also saw the Uncharted three theater demo that was God 1667 01:46:38.680 --> 01:46:43.000 damn, that game looks awesome, and they are further blurring the lines between 1668 01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:45.079 what like, God, it doesn't even look like anyme was playing. It 1669 01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:49.319 looks like just like it just it sounds to sound like that PlayStation ad where 1670 01:46:49.359 --> 01:46:53.920 it's like Magufriend thinks you fortunate movie, but I'm just playing on Charted two. 1671 01:46:54.199 --> 01:46:56.359 It's like, god damn. On Charted three, looks like I'm watching 1672 01:46:56.479 --> 01:46:59.680 that combat sequence like when they're on the on the cart I kept looking at 1673 01:46:59.680 --> 01:47:01.439 the guy with the controller like yeah, I'm just looking back to I was 1674 01:47:01.479 --> 01:47:04.720 like, what is he doing, because like there's a whole fight sequence that's 1675 01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:08.359 like we're talking about this last night, but there's a whole fight two gets 1676 01:47:08.399 --> 01:47:12.239 in there that's like super cinematic looking, right, and you keep waiting for 1677 01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:15.359 the triangle button to pop up to do the punch combo or whatever, but 1678 01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:18.279 no button prompts ever appear. So you're hitting buttons and you're doing stuff, 1679 01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:23.760 but it's like there's a rhythm to the combat that is clearly being controlled by 1680 01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:26.279 the player, but you're not seeing it that way. It's like the way 1681 01:47:26.319 --> 01:47:29.800 the camera's moving and the way everything is presented, it looks like a damn 1682 01:47:29.800 --> 01:47:31.760 movie and it looks awesome. And they have they've done a lot. It 1683 01:47:32.039 --> 01:47:34.800 was clearly they've done a lot more things about in the middle of gameplay, 1684 01:47:34.840 --> 01:47:39.279 they'll just in search just a quick camera change, this little cinematic thing. 1685 01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:44.920 It doesn't take It doesn't at least it doesn't seem like it's gonna take gameplay 1686 01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:46.720 away from you long enough to realize gameplay has just been taken away from you. 1687 01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:49.760 It's like you've just been showing something really cinematic and it's cool and just 1688 01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:53.840 kind of before you even realize you're already control of the guy again. So 1689 01:47:54.039 --> 01:47:58.520 it hey, you feel like cowboy. It looks awesome, you know again. 1690 01:47:58.560 --> 01:48:01.039 I as I grilled them the other day about how all the boat physics 1691 01:48:01.039 --> 01:48:05.199 worked with led to him geeking out about all how the boat is rock. 1692 01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:09.880 I had to ask him how the plane takes off because the you're you're on 1693 01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:12.439 the plane and it takes off and the jeeps getting small, there's this world 1694 01:48:12.439 --> 01:48:14.359 everywhere. I'm like, God, damn, how is this? How is 1695 01:48:14.399 --> 01:48:16.600 this? How is this plane happening? Because I remember working, Uh, 1696 01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:20.199 how is this plane happening? How is this plane happening? Yeah, I 1697 01:48:20.199 --> 01:48:25.720 remember working on when I was working for Michael on The Incredibles, there was 1698 01:48:25.760 --> 01:48:30.079 the fact j Walker gets a job as a fight the plane. I remember 1699 01:48:30.199 --> 01:48:33.720 for Pixar the plane moving at high speeds across massive amounts of land, and 1700 01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:41.479 geometry was a big deal in rendering it, and so I and to see 1701 01:48:41.520 --> 01:48:45.880 that in games in real time now, I mean the Incredibles was was two 1702 01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:47.359 thousand and four. That was just you know, six seven years ago. 1703 01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:53.119 Yeah, And to see games doing this stuff, that stuff that computers would 1704 01:48:53.159 --> 01:48:56.640 have to render, you know, hours and hours to render one frame. 1705 01:48:57.520 --> 01:49:00.239 Things that the game systems are doing now, it's kind of crazy. Agreed, 1706 01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:04.079 Agreed. I cannot I cannot stress enough how much I cannot wait for 1707 01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:08.039 that game. Yeah. Uh, gents, I think it's it's time for 1708 01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:11.880 us to take a break here we've we've a lot of people. We recruited 1709 01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:15.600 a house full of people here. Do you know any of any of them? 1710 01:49:15.880 --> 01:49:19.760 I'm gonna say about sixty percent. Okay, I know who they are. 1711 01:49:19.920 --> 01:49:23.680 And there's at least a few roustabouts and bag of bonds that have just 1712 01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:27.000 kind of wandered in here. But probably we got we gotta. We got 1713 01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:31.399 a genuine trans far in the house. That's right. I'm going to make 1714 01:49:31.479 --> 01:49:34.279 him sit down here and talk to me about transferring in a little bit, 1715 01:49:34.359 --> 01:49:40.479 please do. Marcus, thank you so much for for coming and up on 1716 01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:43.399 the catching meal. And I say it's it's it's an honent to come and 1717 01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:45.640 hang out with you guys. I mean, podcast is pre recorded and edit. 1718 01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:49.079 They just put time and content so to actually actually be able to sit 1719 01:49:49.239 --> 01:49:53.359 and just talk shit. And I actually didn't talk a lot of ship, 1720 01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:56.359 which is all. And you're asking beforehand, You're like, man, I'm 1721 01:49:56.359 --> 01:49:59.279 gonna go off on this, this and that. But it was imagine. 1722 01:49:59.279 --> 01:50:01.600 I decided it was straight myself because I'm actually in quite intelligent company. I'm 1723 01:50:01.640 --> 01:50:04.560 not I'm saying that I'm not normally. I'm just gonna shut the up. 1724 01:50:06.840 --> 01:50:12.000 Thank you, Thank you. That is disappointed that you didn't go off just 1725 01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:14.680 say something offensive, right now, go, yeah, go, Bobby Coote's 1726 01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:19.439 a count all right, we got it, brilliant Tagg and Baggett, Chris, 1727 01:50:19.600 --> 01:50:24.359 thank you for for coming. Thank you for the awesome homemade Generaliah and 1728 01:50:24.359 --> 01:50:30.880 and everything else. And happy birthday Silton. Uh and Brian Eckberg. You've 1729 01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:35.239 turned into a microphone. Uh four, thank you. That's that's unfortunate. 1730 01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:39.520 I'm sure it's gonna have some impact in your ability to community manage four turn 1731 01:50:39.640 --> 01:50:44.039 ten, but hopefully not too drastically. All Right, we're gonna take a 1732 01:50:44.039 --> 01:50:46.720 break here. If you're watching the live stream of job or something fair enough, 1733 01:50:47.279 --> 01:50:51.720 we're gonna take a quick breaking. We're gonna reset the couches and we're 1734 01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:55.720 gonna get some more guests in here, so stay tuned for a little bit 1735 01:50:55.760 --> 01:51:32.319 and uh and we go night. All right, folks, we're back. 1736 01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:36.359 I think this is gonna be our our final stand here at E three, 1737 01:51:36.439 --> 01:51:42.680 twenty eleven, last segment of our our live show slash podcast here from the 1738 01:51:42.720 --> 01:51:46.159 house. And uh, I say, pretty pretty all star cast here on 1739 01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:49.600 the couches. Now, we're gonna let's take it around the room. Here. 1740 01:51:49.680 --> 01:51:58.680 Christian nuts Hi, there we Go has both the visual and audio head 1741 01:51:59.119 --> 01:52:03.760 is not the best for I don't know. I don't know, but both 1742 01:52:03.840 --> 01:52:06.920 is good though. Both is good. Absolutely. I didn't know if I 1743 01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:10.720 was a lot to speak yet. Peter Barflow is here as well, Peter 1744 01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:14.119 say hi, Hey, uh tell folks, where are you from? What 1745 01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:17.319 you're doing? I'm working over Verge Labs on skull Girls and this is my 1746 01:52:17.359 --> 01:52:20.680 first podcast ever. I'm popping my podcast charity. Is it a little frightening? 1747 01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:24.800 You're popping your pumps too? Don't. We're here for you. You're 1748 01:52:24.920 --> 01:52:27.840 You're in safe company here, Peters, so so don't worry about it. 1749 01:52:27.960 --> 01:52:30.359 I was here last year and the Alexander was here and didn't look safe. 1750 01:52:30.560 --> 01:52:34.439 Andrew Andrew Fisher is here as well. And you doing I'm doing well. 1751 01:52:34.479 --> 01:52:36.640 I'm doing very well. How is your free wheeling? E three? Ben 1752 01:52:36.760 --> 01:52:43.079 freedom unemployed? I mean you just get to go home and just play games 1753 01:52:43.119 --> 01:52:45.439 for fuzzies pretty much. That sounds pretty good. David Ells from three four 1754 01:52:45.479 --> 01:52:48.880 three Industries, in case you didn't know from his shirts, In case there 1755 01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:51.840 was any question, So do you have four of those? Or is that 1756 01:52:51.920 --> 01:52:58.079 the same shirt I have? Four of them. Unfortunately, this one made 1757 01:52:58.079 --> 01:53:00.800 a trip to Roscoe was chicking the waffles earlier. No, that was a 1758 01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.960 very fort that was a very fortunate trip. This is dessert for the later. 1759 01:53:04.039 --> 01:53:08.239 It's like in ThunderCats when you see their closet and it's all the exact 1760 01:53:08.279 --> 01:53:14.079 same and you know the thing. It's like you really you have no idea. 1761 01:53:14.159 --> 01:53:15.439 Nothing wrong with free shirts, David, No, I mean you need 1762 01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:20.239 on although they're only extra large. Well, you only have extra large left 1763 01:53:20.279 --> 01:53:26.039 at the at the Halo. Yeah, we had a single X, double 1764 01:53:26.279 --> 01:53:30.159 X, and a few triple x left. All the mediums and smalls and 1765 01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:33.720 larges were gone. Shane Bettenhausen is here. I'm happy to finally be on 1766 01:53:33.960 --> 01:53:36.560 the bobcast because I was on the couch. We had you on the couch, 1767 01:53:36.560 --> 01:53:39.680 we had you in the studio. He came to the office. He 1768 01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:46.840 didn't perform. Everybody's first ever been on the virginal couches. David is no, 1769 01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:53.319 David David is the one. He's he's a tripting our couches. But 1770 01:53:53.359 --> 01:53:58.319 actually, I don't think these couches could be anymore. Gives me five minutes. 1771 01:54:00.239 --> 01:54:02.640 Yeah, you see film students, not the cleanest group. For sure, 1772 01:54:04.319 --> 01:54:08.760 your Freedom Tour then involve you singing Freedom ninety at any point during eithere, 1773 01:54:10.640 --> 01:54:15.199 bra I just mentioned the possibility of karaoke, so it might happen a 1774 01:54:15.279 --> 01:54:17.600 fitting end. It is one of my standards. Can we get a couple 1775 01:54:17.640 --> 01:54:25.119 of bars? Can you let you they notice some mistakes? We're bill to 1776 01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:33.720 last. That's what you get. That's what chicken. It's too it's too 1777 01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:36.640 bad. We're not gonna be able to bring these cameras to this karaoke session 1778 01:54:36.640 --> 01:54:41.880 because it's obviously gonna be something special. Mark McDonald is also here, all 1779 01:54:41.920 --> 01:54:45.000 the way from the Land of the Rising Sun. Came for this big, 1780 01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:51.079 big fan of the of the bombast Transmortal Combat, which is like the last 1781 01:54:51.159 --> 01:54:57.199 ten minutes of every episode we're talking transfer. Mark is transferring himself. Well, 1782 01:54:57.279 --> 01:55:03.399 let's you know what, I haven't heard that. That's really funny. 1783 01:55:03.479 --> 01:55:08.119 That's the first time you're the first person that's to be so happy when Christian 1784 01:55:08.199 --> 01:55:15.560 nuts side talking engage gift, big big thanks to Chris cole Or for for 1785 01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:23.640 wasting an hour photoshopping that together. The better we all are, Mark, 1786 01:55:23.680 --> 01:55:27.600 I just want to say that to get this out of the way that your 1787 01:55:27.760 --> 01:55:33.279 your couch is in good hands. We have the coach. It was also 1788 01:55:33.279 --> 01:55:35.800 a Skip's couch. It was also Patrick's couch. It is now it is 1789 01:55:36.039 --> 01:55:43.039 now you know contract, the unwritten, unspoken contract spoken? Which is? 1790 01:55:43.760 --> 01:55:47.239 But which is this couch? Which is the greatest couch and planet Earth? 1791 01:55:47.920 --> 01:55:51.680 I'm coming back for it, So you don't. You do not own the 1792 01:55:51.680 --> 01:55:56.560 couch. You are the quarters for I'm the keeper of the couch. I 1793 01:55:56.600 --> 01:55:59.199 will say this, Mark, You're free to come and get it from the 1794 01:55:59.199 --> 01:56:01.760 burbs anytime you want. For the record, I love this couch so much. 1795 01:56:02.199 --> 01:56:05.000 I spent like six months tracking down the exact mottom I'm and I bought 1796 01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:09.920 the same exact couch from Mason's. No it did fit. Yeah, that's 1797 01:56:09.920 --> 01:56:13.920 Patrick Clepick who it didn't fit with. He is the one who foresaid forsuk 1798 01:56:14.079 --> 01:56:20.479 the couch. I thought the couch chose its own owner. That wasn't Mark's 1799 01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:27.800 couch original but ronology is brandon'sar to Mark to me to Patrick Kleppick and now 1800 01:56:27.960 --> 01:56:30.760 Ryan and and and it did kind of choose me because you know, Patrick, 1801 01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:33.119 moving from from La to San Francisco didn't have room in his apartment for 1802 01:56:33.159 --> 01:56:36.159 it anymore, and it was trying to give it away and couldn't find anyone 1803 01:56:36.159 --> 01:56:40.560 else who had rooms. I have a proper house, and actually and it 1804 01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:43.039 was it was perfect because my couch was a piece of shit. I hated 1805 01:56:43.039 --> 01:56:47.600 my couch. It's just like the heart of the sun is the hatred I 1806 01:56:47.640 --> 01:56:50.560 had for the catch. Sixty hours of E three coverage, we might have 1807 01:56:50.680 --> 01:56:55.000 hit the bottom of the barrel couch. And I will say lasting about the 1808 01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:57.800 couch. When I heard that you're giving the couch the only one world couch 1809 01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:02.199 story, that's one. I was considering moving back to San Francisco, and 1810 01:57:02.199 --> 01:57:05.920 I was considering becoming your roommate, just to be with. It's a great 1811 01:57:06.119 --> 01:57:12.640 God, damn that you still you still John McCarty's old John mcarti stleff on 1812 01:57:12.680 --> 01:57:15.680 his own couch from like twelve years ago, and he was shocked the electrical 1813 01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:18.239 tape still exists. John mcarti's old car. Can I drive him to your 1814 01:57:18.319 --> 01:57:24.680 couch? In the more things changed, we never talked about this three that 1815 01:57:24.760 --> 01:57:28.720 you guys haven't talked about in the like seven hours. Yeah, bodcast coverage 1816 01:57:28.760 --> 01:57:32.880 for us. Besides well, it's couches, though, TSI were games that 1817 01:57:32.960 --> 01:57:36.720 you guys haven't touched on. We might mark you know what you I feel 1818 01:57:36.760 --> 01:57:40.199 like you're just setting me up so perfect, like you're teeing it up. 1819 01:57:40.359 --> 01:57:42.640 Yeah, I love it. God bless you. We talked about it before. 1820 01:57:42.760 --> 01:57:47.479 Yes, we haven't talked We haven't talked about transferring quite enough. You 1821 01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:51.800 know that wasn't the first thing you talked about. Well, well, actually 1822 01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:56.359 it was when Mega sixty four was here. We didn't we we dove deep 1823 01:57:56.479 --> 01:58:00.199 on on their involvement in the process. Uh, And you know, they 1824 01:58:00.279 --> 01:58:01.720 said that they had a lot of fun doing that, they felt very honored 1825 01:58:01.760 --> 01:58:04.439 that that Kajima would would consider them to, you know, be part of 1826 01:58:04.840 --> 01:58:08.279 this process, that that he would even reach out to them, and that 1827 01:58:08.439 --> 01:58:12.319 they you know that that Kajima kind of gave them carte blanche to do what 1828 01:58:12.399 --> 01:58:14.680 they wanted to. And you know, when they sent off the video, 1829 01:58:14.720 --> 01:58:15.680 they said, like, you know, we were stressing and we thought there 1830 01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:18.159 was gonna be all these cuts and requests, and they came back like, 1831 01:58:18.239 --> 01:58:20.680 no, perfect, that's great, And so you know, they they they 1832 01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:26.319 enjoyed that process regardless of let's let's say kind of the bigger picture of what 1833 01:58:26.439 --> 01:58:29.760 that announcement was so so Mark. You know, I'm not I'm not looking 1834 01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:31.239 for for juicy scoops he or anything. I'm not looking for you to throw 1835 01:58:31.239 --> 01:58:34.199 anyone under the bus, But I would just love to know how you got 1836 01:58:34.279 --> 01:58:39.560 involved in that process and and being part of kind of I mean kind of 1837 01:58:39.600 --> 01:58:44.720 an anti announcement in a way of like a significant chunk of the Canami press 1838 01:58:44.760 --> 01:58:48.520 conference of Kajima basically saying well, you know, discussing product for sure, 1839 01:58:48.920 --> 01:58:54.239 talking about the middle gear and the Zentner, the enders uh compilations, but 1840 01:58:54.800 --> 01:58:58.920 but also kind of just like showing up to say we we were not going 1841 01:58:59.000 --> 01:59:01.119 to talk about kind of the big things that we have. So so I'm 1842 01:59:01.159 --> 01:59:04.119 just curious, like what how did you first get involved in this? Like 1843 01:59:04.439 --> 01:59:09.640 how did you get Two years ago pre production started and there was some story 1844 01:59:11.159 --> 01:59:14.359 there was some rough storyboards. I sent them my notes, We went back 1845 01:59:14.399 --> 01:59:17.800 and forth. There was like some models made audition process. Yeah, how 1846 01:59:17.920 --> 01:59:25.039 do you take to do the motion capture? Yeah, I mean basically the 1847 01:59:25.119 --> 01:59:28.640 first part of this MAGA sixty four what you mentioned is true, which is 1848 01:59:28.760 --> 01:59:31.800 like you know, if Kojima asked you to do it, we just I 1849 01:59:31.960 --> 01:59:36.279 did it. We did it at eight four and happy to like we work 1850 01:59:36.359 --> 01:59:41.279 with those guys sometimes and uh we like them, and uh yeah, I 1851 01:59:41.359 --> 01:59:45.920 mean it's Kojima, right, it's it's it's it's Kojima production. So they 1852 01:59:45.600 --> 01:59:48.560 tell you to jump and basically say, I don't. I don't know that 1853 01:59:48.640 --> 01:59:55.720 anyone would would say jump. I say, jumping is really just to propel 1854 01:59:55.800 --> 02:00:00.439 yourself upwards about having like total freedom and whatever. That not quite my thing. 1855 02:00:00.520 --> 02:00:02.560 They had an idea of what they wanted to do, and like I 1856 02:00:02.720 --> 02:00:09.840 had some ideas on it too, and but yeah, it was really hundreds 1857 02:00:09.840 --> 02:00:13.960 of feet below the ground. Yeah. Actually, so a lot of different 1858 02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:16.439 things about that video. I mean, obviously they were having fun with it. 1859 02:00:16.520 --> 02:00:21.119 But you can see the reflection of the windows in these as he's saying, 1860 02:00:21.199 --> 02:00:25.760 like I'm saying, like, where are there's no windows here? They 1861 02:00:25.840 --> 02:00:28.000 knew that and they realized that They're like, no, no, that'll be 1862 02:00:28.000 --> 02:00:31.439 funny. People will notice that on the internet. So I have one question. 1863 02:00:31.880 --> 02:00:36.199 How many takes to do the walking talking escalator shot? Not as many 1864 02:00:36.239 --> 02:00:39.760 as you would think. And I was very class I will say I am 1865 02:00:39.840 --> 02:00:42.840 not a walk and talk host guy. So that's the thing. They called 1866 02:00:42.840 --> 02:00:45.600 me like a week before. The whole thing kind of came together at the 1867 02:00:45.680 --> 02:00:48.920 last minute, and I was just like, okay, sure, And they 1868 02:00:49.000 --> 02:00:53.520 sent me the script like nine or ten o'clock the night before, and I 1869 02:00:53.600 --> 02:00:56.319 looked at it, and I mean, changed a bunch of stuff, but 1870 02:00:56.399 --> 02:00:58.640 it was like it's going to be this. A lot of stuff changed that 1871 02:00:58.760 --> 02:01:04.279 was happening that script three hundred and sixty four pages. No one, I 1872 02:01:04.359 --> 02:01:10.119 will say, like Jeff Keiley, Victor Lucas h Adam Sessor, what those 1873 02:01:10.159 --> 02:01:14.119 guys do is a lot fucking hard earth than it looks. I will definitely 1874 02:01:14.239 --> 02:01:17.640 say that now to kind of pull that off or whatever, like it's not 1875 02:01:17.720 --> 02:01:20.359 as easy it looks. But anyway, but for the record, coachman, 1876 02:01:20.399 --> 02:01:25.880 they can call any of those gentlemen they called Mark McDonald. So I'm curious, 1877 02:01:25.960 --> 02:01:29.319 like, did you have any sense of of why they felt comfortable reaching 1878 02:01:29.359 --> 02:01:31.600 out to you specifically, like like like and and did did they give you 1879 02:01:31.680 --> 02:01:33.800 an idea of like, hey, you know, we want you to do 1880 02:01:33.880 --> 02:01:39.520 this thing and here's here's why specifically or not really No, I mean they 1881 02:01:39.760 --> 02:01:41.960 it was just kind of like they knew you, and it's like we need 1882 02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:45.359 an American dude to help do this process. And I think that was it. 1883 02:01:45.520 --> 02:01:47.079 I think that was it, like well known and you know a lot 1884 02:01:47.119 --> 02:01:50.159 of gamers knew how Marcus from a stint and EGM which was the only NOPM 1885 02:01:50.199 --> 02:01:54.479 and soft which is like very long and you used to do them production support 1886 02:01:54.560 --> 02:01:57.800 with, right. I think that was maybe part of it. And and 1887 02:01:57.840 --> 02:02:00.039 we've done some work with those guys before. And honestly, I don't know, 1888 02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:02.680 and they never said this because it's probably too nice, but I'm guessing 1889 02:02:02.840 --> 02:02:08.119 like Victor Lucas was probably too busy to like fly over at the last minute, 1890 02:02:08.119 --> 02:02:10.560 because he probably would have done an awesome job. And they're friends with 1891 02:02:10.720 --> 02:02:14.439 him too, and whatever else. Guys they teach you already hired hard gay, 1892 02:02:14.560 --> 02:02:24.560 so that's right, he was so so so it sounds like it kind 1893 02:02:24.560 --> 02:02:27.319 of came together a very last minute. It was a very yeah, it 1894 02:02:27.439 --> 02:02:30.319 was a it was a you know, they had an idea of of what 1895 02:02:30.399 --> 02:02:31.760 they wanted and they had I mean, they had like you know, they 1896 02:02:31.800 --> 02:02:34.560 had a bunch of cameras and they had they threw together a lot of stuff. 1897 02:02:34.720 --> 02:02:38.720 They had those little cards made up, which people think is weird, 1898 02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:42.800 you know, coach MC kept pulling out these way I'm glad you would pay 1899 02:02:43.239 --> 02:02:46.680 h they went out in America went on Japan. Some people have seen the 1900 02:02:46.760 --> 02:02:49.880 Japanese version. I was hoping that they would put out the Japanese version and 1901 02:02:49.960 --> 02:02:54.520 subtitle it for everybody because you wouldn't have to Yeah did you hear me? 1902 02:02:56.119 --> 02:02:58.680 Yeah? Actually, so there is a Japanese version of that. So I 1903 02:02:58.800 --> 02:03:00.359 talk again talking to the Mega six four guys that they had said, yeah, 1904 02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:03.560 there's they you know, dubbed all their stuff in Japanese. And they 1905 02:03:03.560 --> 02:03:05.840 were like, we don't know what they if they change shit, we don't 1906 02:03:05.840 --> 02:03:10.039 know if like if if if things were completely different, because there are parts 1907 02:03:10.079 --> 02:03:16.119 of unfortunately Transfarring Tring universe. Just for the record, it was the same 1908 02:03:16.479 --> 02:03:19.479 in Japanese. Oh was it? Because because so they were saying, there 1909 02:03:19.520 --> 02:03:23.680 was a specific moment where where like, you know, Rocco is kind of 1910 02:03:23.720 --> 02:03:27.640 walking along, he's you know, playing the janitor or whatever, and uh, 1911 02:03:28.439 --> 02:03:30.359 he had no lines in the English version, but in the Japanese version 1912 02:03:30.399 --> 02:03:33.680 he's like muttering to himself and Okay, maybe it's not identical, but I 1913 02:03:33.760 --> 02:03:36.279 mean it's not like, you know, a wildness reposation, but they were 1914 02:03:36.279 --> 02:03:41.199 saying like like like you know, famous voice actors were dubbing over there them 1915 02:03:41.279 --> 02:03:44.000 and it was like blowing their minds, and people were freaking out about like, 1916 02:03:44.279 --> 02:03:45.720 you know, two of them were voiced by someone who was a major 1917 02:03:45.880 --> 02:03:49.279 voice actor in the Naruto and and there's a you know, a couple of 1918 02:03:49.560 --> 02:03:55.239 notable you know, metal gear voice actors that were Yeah, like the guy 1919 02:03:55.359 --> 02:03:58.439 plays plays Rocco, which is like the guy who plays Solid Snake. So 1920 02:03:58.640 --> 02:04:02.079 oh was that the Oh wow, apparently like really famous all of the Japanese 1921 02:04:02.199 --> 02:04:05.119 voice actor Do you have any do you have any idea who who provided your 1922 02:04:05.199 --> 02:04:11.000 somebody somebody told me maybe it isn't like the Power Range equivalent to Power Rangers 1923 02:04:11.520 --> 02:04:15.079 or something like that. But yeah, I was told that forgot the White 1924 02:04:15.079 --> 02:04:24.760 Power Rangers really bad, the White Power yea, that's wait for wait for 1925 02:04:24.840 --> 02:04:33.439 it to catch here's white So did you have any sense like when you're in 1926 02:04:33.479 --> 02:04:36.119 the middle of this, like this is gonna be a fucking weird thing. 1927 02:04:36.359 --> 02:04:41.479 Yes, well, actually, and there was stuff that I I honestly I 1928 02:04:41.560 --> 02:04:45.560 haven't seen the final cut yet because it was kind of and it's half like 1929 02:04:46.079 --> 02:04:50.439 like awaja which if you don't know what that word is, it's like it's 1930 02:04:50.479 --> 02:04:55.119 the opposite of Sean and Freud. It's like the pain, physical pain of 1931 02:04:55.239 --> 02:05:00.199 watching someone be embarrassed. Like so it's half that and half just like being 1932 02:05:00.239 --> 02:05:02.880 crazy busy. But there was a part where we were telepathically talking to each 1933 02:05:02.920 --> 02:05:08.560 other and the elevator that I think didn't make it into the final video. 1934 02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:13.840 I don't remember. Yeah, so there was well you know, well you 1935 02:05:13.920 --> 02:05:15.720 know what director's cuts coming. Oh well yeah, it was a coachim of 1936 02:05:15.760 --> 02:05:21.920 production. So we will get the extended place pre order version. Yeah, 1937 02:05:23.039 --> 02:05:26.880 we'll come with that movie. I'm sure, just right, Yeah, that's 1938 02:05:26.960 --> 02:05:29.800 right. But it was kind of like I from the start, I was 1939 02:05:29.840 --> 02:05:31.319 like, okay, well let's just like make it clear that we're just having 1940 02:05:31.399 --> 02:05:35.439 fun and this is a joke from from the start. So hopefully like that 1941 02:05:35.680 --> 02:05:39.720 sense came through with my back acting, my bacting. I don't know if 1942 02:05:39.800 --> 02:05:44.359 that when in front of the escalator, when I first seek the convulsions, 1943 02:05:44.439 --> 02:05:46.920 well, I like there was clearly a lot of you know, intended humor 1944 02:05:47.000 --> 02:05:49.880 throughout, like you know, starting off with make on other and and and 1945 02:05:49.960 --> 02:05:54.199 then you know, to get a lot of the goofy stuff in the elevator 1946 02:05:54.239 --> 02:05:57.479 and whatnot. I thought the Makes four thing was great. I thought it 1947 02:05:57.520 --> 02:06:02.119 was. It was genuinely funny for sure. Yeah, But so I think 1948 02:06:02.159 --> 02:06:05.880 the kind of the schism in that in that whole thing was like, at 1949 02:06:05.920 --> 02:06:10.039 what point did the jokes stop? Because because like when when the Mega sixty 1950 02:06:10.079 --> 02:06:12.560 four guys introduced transferring, You're like, people came up. You're like, 1951 02:06:12.640 --> 02:06:15.079 Okay, that's something that those guys made up in this like because because I'm 1952 02:06:15.079 --> 02:06:17.680 like, no, now I'm gonna explain you what transferring it's a lifestyle is 1953 02:06:17.760 --> 02:06:20.560 going on. Yeah, A couple of people have said like they yeah, 1954 02:06:20.640 --> 02:06:24.119 that they thought it was a joke. They saw like the logo and then 1955 02:06:24.199 --> 02:06:28.520 the name active lifestyle combining games and gaming on the go, right, transfarring 1956 02:06:28.680 --> 02:06:30.479 and that stuff. Yeah, And so like I think one of the first 1957 02:06:30.520 --> 02:06:33.640 lines after it was like, oh so that's Mega sixty four. Is this 1958 02:06:33.680 --> 02:06:36.279 whole thing a joke? And it's like no, actually, And I think 1959 02:06:36.319 --> 02:06:41.279 that was intended. I think they anticipated that a little bit, but maybe 1960 02:06:41.359 --> 02:06:45.359 not as much as people. Yeah, sure, because people actually reacted to 1961 02:06:45.439 --> 02:06:49.720 it, right. Yeah, Well, I don't know what else to say 1962 02:06:49.720 --> 02:06:53.640 about that it was a beautiful because it was a it was a weird, 1963 02:06:53.720 --> 02:06:57.800 weird thing. Yeah, Konami out Konami themselves yet again. Yeah, actually, 1964 02:06:58.119 --> 02:07:00.560 can we talk about Konami Like, so it seemed like that they really 1965 02:07:00.640 --> 02:07:06.039 clamped down after last year because of just the colossal meme disaster that last year 1966 02:07:06.199 --> 02:07:11.640 was right, but there being too far in the other direction. Was it 1967 02:07:12.640 --> 02:07:15.840 a meme disaster or did it get Konami way more attention than it would ever 1968 02:07:16.000 --> 02:07:19.000 have gotten. No, No, that's I agree with that, but I 1969 02:07:19.119 --> 02:07:23.239 think being a Japanese company, Konami was like, oh my god, people 1970 02:07:23.239 --> 02:07:26.640 are making fun of us, even though like they don't see the part where 1971 02:07:26.840 --> 02:07:30.439 it's actually that's the only way they're actually reaching people. It is people are 1972 02:07:30.479 --> 02:07:33.159 making fun of us. Lits clamped down and do it on video to make 1973 02:07:33.199 --> 02:07:38.800 sure nothing goes wrong. So they did. Maybe market doesn't realized like it 1974 02:07:38.920 --> 02:07:42.119 wasn't just the Kojima part that was on video, that their whole press conference 1975 02:07:42.199 --> 02:07:45.479 was on video, so so people didn't know that. I knew that before 1976 02:07:45.520 --> 02:07:49.479 it happened, but it seemed like from the internet reaction that people were they 1977 02:07:49.520 --> 02:07:54.520 did not announce it, like because skull Girls was involved with it. I 1978 02:07:54.640 --> 02:07:56.640 had been told that it was going to be on video. I'm like, 1979 02:07:56.640 --> 02:07:58.800 oh my god, people are gonna hate this, but they didn't announce that. 1980 02:07:58.920 --> 02:08:01.800 So they had viewing party. They treated like it was this, like 1981 02:08:01.960 --> 02:08:03.760 at this time it will start because this is the press conference. And then 1982 02:08:03.920 --> 02:08:07.680 so you expected to be live streaming, right, you expected, and it 1983 02:08:07.800 --> 02:08:11.640 was streaming just fast forward to but then you found out on like I think 1984 02:08:11.680 --> 02:08:13.600 it was like the game trailer side they had it as well, and you 1985 02:08:13.640 --> 02:08:16.720 thought they just gave them the stream. He realized no, they just gave 1986 02:08:16.800 --> 02:08:18.560 them the file, and then people were able to actually scrub through it. 1987 02:08:18.640 --> 02:08:24.840 So there were people at like these these viewing parties or whatever who are sitting 1988 02:08:24.880 --> 02:08:26.199 there and they're like looking at their phones and realizing, oh wait, all 1989 02:08:26.239 --> 02:08:30.840 of the information from the rest of this press conference is already out there because 1990 02:08:30.960 --> 02:08:33.199 because people have scrubbed through like this, and and it just it just seems 1991 02:08:33.239 --> 02:08:39.319 like one of those crazy ass Japanese miscalculations, right right, or at least 1992 02:08:39.399 --> 02:08:41.560 you know, I mean, I think I think just hit on last year's 1993 02:08:41.600 --> 02:08:46.119 economic press conference. I think it it people were making fun of them. 1994 02:08:46.159 --> 02:08:48.800 I think it actually worked out great for them, because I don't think it 1995 02:08:50.359 --> 02:08:52.399 transferred to the games too much. People were making fun of the presentations, 1996 02:08:52.880 --> 02:08:56.399 but people didn't like People didn't take it out on the games. People didn't 1997 02:08:56.439 --> 02:09:01.359 really think less of the games. Let's be honestly, how many of the 1998 02:09:01.439 --> 02:09:07.720 average gamers knew who talk Fuji? Was? No everyone because of one million 1999 02:09:07.800 --> 02:09:11.520 troops? Yeah right, but that's I don't know from his perspective, that's 2000 02:09:11.520 --> 02:09:15.720 better than if no one knew who he was. Yea, But yeah, 2001 02:09:16.119 --> 02:09:20.760 they also did like this Q and a session on Tuesday night that I also 2002 02:09:20.800 --> 02:09:24.600 had to go to, and it was like, I think people assumed that 2003 02:09:24.640 --> 02:09:28.159 because they were having an event on a Tuesday night during E three that they 2004 02:09:28.199 --> 02:09:31.199 actually had some news to make, but no, they didn't. They just 2005 02:09:31.319 --> 02:09:35.920 had prepared questions from IGN and game Spot and other people, and then the 2006 02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:39.399 dev team answered it, and like everybody was so bored and restless, and 2007 02:09:39.439 --> 02:09:41.960 we're playing the games and then so like, for example, people playing, 2008 02:09:43.079 --> 02:09:46.079 we're playing our game, and like then PR came over and said, stopped 2009 02:09:46.079 --> 02:09:50.279 playing the game. So then they started talking to us about the game. 2010 02:09:50.560 --> 02:09:52.600 And then PR came over and said, stopped talking about the game. And 2011 02:09:52.680 --> 02:09:56.560 then by the end of it, everybody was bored and restless and playing all 2012 02:09:56.640 --> 02:10:01.920 of the games except ours because is they've been told not to. But they're 2013 02:10:01.199 --> 02:10:05.920 like like and everybody just left us, like that was terrible. Well, 2014 02:10:05.119 --> 02:10:11.079 I feel like there's like Konami beyond last year's press, beyond this year, 2015 02:10:11.199 --> 02:10:20.079 like there is a long and storied history of like of just of there never 2016 02:10:20.199 --> 02:10:26.279 had a good three years Rock Revolution have one. That one the videos up 2017 02:10:26.319 --> 02:10:33.039 on YouTube watch the Rock Revolution live performance two thousand eights, but but they 2018 02:10:33.079 --> 02:10:39.319 don't even Yeah, it's a real bad. It's a real bad led by 2019 02:10:39.479 --> 02:10:43.159 the producer of the game playing along to the song and they fail halfway through 2020 02:10:43.520 --> 02:10:50.439 and she says she maybe someone else should have played it. I feel like 2021 02:10:50.520 --> 02:10:54.800 I feel like there's this you know this, it's it comes from being a 2022 02:10:54.880 --> 02:10:58.560 Japanese company where they feel this need to like we need to give absolutely everyone 2023 02:11:00.159 --> 02:11:01.600 do we need to have like equal time for everyone, which is why we 2024 02:11:01.680 --> 02:11:05.479 got the Ugo and the Frogger, which it was just like you know minute, 2025 02:11:05.840 --> 02:11:07.039 yeah, there will be like, Okay, we're announcing some some like 2026 02:11:07.079 --> 02:11:11.479 we' announcing three new Dance Dance Revolution products. Right, we are now going 2027 02:11:11.520 --> 02:11:16.840 to have fifteen minutes segments for each of these three Dance Revolution products, because 2028 02:11:16.920 --> 02:11:20.439 you know, out of respect, because you know, and I think it's 2029 02:11:20.479 --> 02:11:22.000 I think it's a cultural thing. I assume it's it's kind of like my 2030 02:11:22.039 --> 02:11:26.840 speculation because it happens year after year with these with these Canami events. But 2031 02:11:26.920 --> 02:11:30.520 it's not. I mean I was watching the uv Soft I mean like kind 2032 02:11:30.560 --> 02:11:35.279 of tone deaf press conferences that don't take into account the audience is definitely not 2033 02:11:35.600 --> 02:11:37.199 you know, oh no, monopolized by the Japanese, not at all ub 2034 02:11:37.279 --> 02:11:41.760 soft press conference. I was watching it after the fact. I think they 2035 02:11:41.880 --> 02:11:45.479 played through the entire that Rayman game, like from start to finish, like 2036 02:11:46.279 --> 02:11:50.319 somebody to tell them, like, you don't need to show your games for 2037 02:11:50.439 --> 02:11:54.479 ten minutes at par ride, would you, mister Caffeine. But I mean, 2038 02:11:54.560 --> 02:11:56.840 at least, I mean they were. They were when they were showing 2039 02:11:56.880 --> 02:11:58.199 the games. At least the games looked good. It was it was all 2040 02:11:58.239 --> 02:12:01.720 of the the rappers. It was the packaging of that press conference where it 2041 02:12:01.800 --> 02:12:05.760 was like, like, God, just get this fucking guy off the stage. 2042 02:12:05.399 --> 02:12:09.720 Who the hell is mister kafein the guy? I still don't understand apparent. 2043 02:12:09.800 --> 02:12:11.359 Apparently people if he was bitched as a marketing guy, wasn't ye like 2044 02:12:11.439 --> 02:12:15.119 he's he's been around for years, so he worked, and he said he 2045 02:12:15.199 --> 02:12:18.479 worked, but he doesn't realize I'm sure mister caffeine is like a French insult. 2046 02:12:18.560 --> 02:12:22.960 He's just not in on it. Eight years or something. A few 2047 02:12:24.119 --> 02:12:26.159 people have been telling me that apparently he would go to like the game stop 2048 02:12:26.239 --> 02:12:30.760 like managers things and like go and get everyone, try and get very pumped 2049 02:12:30.800 --> 02:12:35.000 about these imagined these imagine games. It was like like a warm up comic 2050 02:12:35.159 --> 02:12:37.319 before the real comic. Like but then they said, you know what, 2051 02:12:37.399 --> 02:12:39.680 We're not going to put out the scratch for Joe McHale this year. So 2052 02:12:39.920 --> 02:12:45.199 just that was my thit Joe reason I went to them, We saw the 2053 02:12:45.239 --> 02:12:48.039 best conference. Keep doing Joel, Come on, you can't keep doing Joel 2054 02:12:48.199 --> 02:13:00.119 mcale everything loser comedian who did activision like Jamie Ship when he did. But 2055 02:13:01.239 --> 02:13:05.279 Hugio a moment ago reminded me of many many eight years ago. One year 2056 02:13:05.319 --> 02:13:09.000 when I was at EGM and Kanami wanted me to interview everyone, and they're 2057 02:13:09.039 --> 02:13:11.640 like, please take this Hugio interview. No one else is taking it. 2058 02:13:11.720 --> 02:13:13.159 I mean so much to us, it's so important. Everyone knows Ugo. 2059 02:13:13.840 --> 02:13:18.840 And in the middle of my Yugio interview, the dude fell asleep, literally 2060 02:13:18.920 --> 02:13:22.760 fell asleep. The guy you were interview asleep. He was jack your questions. 2061 02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:31.119 Now you didn't know the answer and faked it. Even the guy who 2062 02:13:31.119 --> 02:13:33.600 makes Hugio is bored by and the tridslators like, what do we do? 2063 02:13:33.720 --> 02:13:37.279 There's no possible question you could ask me ask was like, let him sleep. 2064 02:13:37.479 --> 02:13:45.159 And then I was telling this story to a PR person who was doing 2065 02:13:45.199 --> 02:13:46.720 the PR back then, and they said, well, one time we were 2066 02:13:46.760 --> 02:13:52.920 doing an interview with end guy and guy fell asleep, and any guy wants 2067 02:13:52.960 --> 02:14:00.880 fell asleep on the podcasts like mid sentence, wow, coptic or something. 2068 02:14:01.039 --> 02:14:03.319 Maybe Sorry, Yeah, that's funny, that's funny, I think. I 2069 02:14:03.359 --> 02:14:07.880 mean, we've again, we've touched on this topic in previous nights this week, 2070 02:14:07.479 --> 02:14:11.239 but at E three it's it's very easy, like you are running around 2071 02:14:11.239 --> 02:14:13.880 all day, uh, and then it's like, all right, we're gonna 2072 02:14:15.000 --> 02:14:18.119 put you into this air conditioned theater in this dark room in the back and 2073 02:14:18.199 --> 02:14:20.800 it could be the most fucking interesting game in the world. Yeah, then 2074 02:14:20.840 --> 02:14:22.880 you're like you findly like oh I get to sit down. Oh it's nice 2075 02:14:22.920 --> 02:14:26.960 and cool, Oh it's dark, and then you're just gone. I can 2076 02:14:26.000 --> 02:14:28.359 speak to that. I was in the U. I loved it. Don't 2077 02:14:28.359 --> 02:14:37.560 get me too like it really and then bring up menus and scrolling down And 2078 02:14:37.640 --> 02:14:43.319 every time I drag it with lands like it was like you you have to 2079 02:14:43.359 --> 02:14:46.520 start doing the like digging nails into your knees, like don't don't be that 2080 02:14:46.600 --> 02:14:48.880 asshole, don't be the person that that in the backroo, which made it 2081 02:14:48.960 --> 02:14:54.439 even worse. I just let go so so I you know, I kind 2082 02:14:54.479 --> 02:14:58.840 of give a pass to to to folks to whom that happens, and and 2083 02:14:58.000 --> 02:15:01.159 yef if you're you know, traveling from overseas and jetlagged and happens, and 2084 02:15:01.199 --> 02:15:07.159 then you have to answer questions about product. Give the poor guy a break, 2085 02:15:07.239 --> 02:15:13.239 all right, Ry guys tired? Uh god, damn it is. 2086 02:15:13.319 --> 02:15:16.159 It has been an awesome show and I'm so glad to have you guys here. 2087 02:15:16.319 --> 02:15:20.800 Shane, how has your show been? What have you been up to? 2088 02:15:22.279 --> 02:15:24.600 It's been exhausting, you know, on this on that side, as 2089 02:15:24.640 --> 02:15:28.199 anybody's to that side, I'll tell you it's not as easy and fun as 2090 02:15:28.239 --> 02:15:33.520 you think. He's been fantastic work all weak. You were kind of down 2091 02:15:33.600 --> 02:15:37.079 here on vacation, Yeah, but anyway you were, you're working, So 2092 02:15:37.680 --> 02:15:41.720 it was really fun, super busy, but I'm really excited about the response 2093 02:15:41.760 --> 02:15:43.680 that elshan I has gotten here at E three. We really stoked. We 2094 02:15:43.760 --> 02:15:52.000 won the Honey Badger Award today from the Example Examiner's out of it because like 2095 02:15:52.199 --> 02:15:54.840 that is the ethos, like we don't really give a shit whatever else is 2096 02:15:54.880 --> 02:15:56.960 doing, and like our game isn't trying to be what everyone else is trying 2097 02:15:56.000 --> 02:15:58.600 to be. So that's awesome and the demos outs everybody can go play it. 2098 02:16:00.159 --> 02:16:03.800 And also we finally got to announce Dragon's Crown from Vanilla Ware. And 2099 02:16:03.279 --> 02:16:07.039 if you haven't seen this game, I've heard about it. I haven't seen 2100 02:16:07.079 --> 02:16:13.359 it for myself, but I'm on board for anything side scrolling four player action 2101 02:16:13.439 --> 02:16:18.600 and RPG beat him up kind of like Guardian Heroes or for PSVTA and PS 2102 02:16:18.680 --> 02:16:22.640 three, And you know the character designer there, George commenton he has outdone 2103 02:16:22.720 --> 02:16:26.039 himself in rendering the female form. Let me ask you real fast. You 2104 02:16:26.159 --> 02:16:31.279 just said for PS VITA and PS three, Yes, So how does that 2105 02:16:31.359 --> 02:16:35.159 work. There's transferring. Is it the exact the exact same game? Do 2106 02:16:35.239 --> 02:16:39.879 I buy one and get a discount to the will reveal the full interoperability between 2107 02:16:39.920 --> 02:16:43.079 the versions. We're not talking about that right now. Later this year, 2108 02:16:43.120 --> 02:16:48.520 I've said that it is a retail game for PS three and on Vida. 2109 02:16:48.559 --> 02:16:52.600 It'll be both retail and download, so kind of a spiritual successor to the 2110 02:16:52.719 --> 02:16:56.879 old D and D cap Com exactly, because not many people, all the 2111 02:16:56.920 --> 02:17:00.520 experts like yourself would know that. George Commentani worked at Capcom when he made 2112 02:17:00.600 --> 02:17:03.399 Dungeon Dragons, Shadow of My Star and Tower of Doom. Yeah, yeah, 2113 02:17:03.399 --> 02:17:05.719 those are those are great games. So that was that. That was 2114 02:17:05.840 --> 02:17:11.079 the game. At the Sony press conference that ended, then it was like, 2115 02:17:11.120 --> 02:17:13.760 wait, what was that? That was that game because it was the 2116 02:17:13.840 --> 02:17:20.680 text game, like hyper realistic creepy portals test right. Yeah. And I 2117 02:17:20.760 --> 02:17:22.959 will say the font. Kotaku doesn't like our font. I love our fond. 2118 02:17:24.040 --> 02:17:28.440 I think the logo critiquing logos they did like they're talking about this fund 2119 02:17:28.440 --> 02:17:33.479 like it's this huge controversy. They call it an Kotaker called it the worst 2120 02:17:33.719 --> 02:17:41.079 font ever. Well, I was I turned to and worst font ever but 2121 02:17:41.159 --> 02:17:43.440 which I turned. I turned to Andrew Press like I could not what was 2122 02:17:43.520 --> 02:17:48.760 that? I could read a sad thing. Well, the w it's kind 2123 02:17:48.760 --> 02:17:52.360 of anyway, I'll move on. But looking at the other game the games, 2124 02:17:52.399 --> 02:17:54.360 But the other game that I was really close to my heart is Magical 2125 02:17:54.440 --> 02:17:58.639 Drop five, which Christian and I were talking about. My god, it 2126 02:17:58.760 --> 02:18:01.639 was intimated to me in the past. I'm a Magical Drop three is in 2127 02:18:01.760 --> 02:18:05.719 my like top ten games ever. It ever came out to America except on 2128 02:18:05.760 --> 02:18:11.920 the Neo Gao platform, so it's not exactly like the Yeah, yeah, 2129 02:18:11.920 --> 02:18:13.879 I mean it's just the best competitive puzzle game ever. Magical Drop three was 2130 02:18:13.920 --> 02:18:18.159 and uh better than what about four? Was four just a piece of shit? 2131 02:18:18.360 --> 02:18:26.799 They just completely lose There's no actual four, There's no it was stricken. 2132 02:18:26.840 --> 02:18:31.079 For the record, they went they went super realistic and they tried to 2133 02:18:31.120 --> 02:18:35.239 go gritty. It was a person shooter. Actually that was open world Magical 2134 02:18:35.360 --> 02:18:39.399 Drop. It just walking around level. There's these colored balls on and you 2135 02:18:39.479 --> 02:18:43.239 just drop them anywhere. It didn't make any sense drop a single ball you 2136 02:18:43.440 --> 02:18:46.799 will. Open world gameplay didn't really work. But no, seriously, I 2137 02:18:46.840 --> 02:18:50.760 mean, it's arguable what the best matching like versus puzzle game is. But 2138 02:18:50.799 --> 02:18:54.680 my personal believes magical drop is that just attack? Yeah whatever, I think. 2139 02:18:54.719 --> 02:18:56.520 I agree. Actually I think this is the second best penalty ball touch 2140 02:18:56.559 --> 02:19:00.840 attack, but it's very different. It's super fast paced. Its unbelievably fast 2141 02:19:00.879 --> 02:19:03.840 paced, energetic and fun. And the fact, like Shane intimated to me 2142 02:19:03.920 --> 02:19:05.280 that this was in the works a while ago, but there were some difficulties 2143 02:19:05.319 --> 02:19:11.120 and like I was so like seriously expa or something. No, actually, 2144 02:19:11.120 --> 02:19:13.600 it's just a matter a matter of getting the rights. Because Dad East, 2145 02:19:13.680 --> 02:19:16.319 Dad East, the old company we all know me all these great games, 2146 02:19:16.719 --> 02:19:18.840 they got bought out by a Japanese ce phone company. They didn't quite understand 2147 02:19:18.879 --> 02:19:22.239 what they had with all this IP so it took a lot of doing to 2148 02:19:22.319 --> 02:19:24.280 get it away from them. So who's making this? So it was developed 2149 02:19:24.280 --> 02:19:26.719 by Arcado, this really great team in France and they made a bunch of 2150 02:19:26.799 --> 02:19:31.760 the best games on Xbox like Indie Channel and yeah their games are Arcados here. 2151 02:19:31.840 --> 02:19:33.000 Yeah they're fantastic and they're doing a new game for Sega as well. 2152 02:19:33.079 --> 02:19:35.479 But yeah, the great high Ris two d art. Did you just like 2153 02:19:35.559 --> 02:19:41.360 break an India by saying that if I did I think it was announced there 2154 02:19:41.479 --> 02:19:52.239 is no I didn't say what was Are you looking at me for video? 2155 02:19:52.280 --> 02:19:56.680 But no, it's really cool and it's gonna be super value priced, so 2156 02:19:56.319 --> 02:20:03.959 it's super stay out there for people. Uh, Magical Drop is if you 2157 02:20:05.040 --> 02:20:07.840 like versus public games. Just I cannot recommend it enough something. If you 2158 02:20:07.959 --> 02:20:09.319 don't, it's good enough. You probably have a lot of I mean it's 2159 02:20:09.319 --> 02:20:11.879 like, yeah, how many players is the is? The has four players? 2160 02:20:11.959 --> 02:20:16.120 On what formats that come in to? We only announced the PC Steam 2161 02:20:16.200 --> 02:20:20.319 version, but we'll be announcing all the consoles very soon. Okay, because 2162 02:20:20.360 --> 02:20:24.719 it's a harder cell And did you just announce all the consoles? Oh, 2163 02:20:24.120 --> 02:20:30.520 it's not coming to like, you know my Nuance. You're still playing Merlin 2164 02:20:30.600 --> 02:20:33.760 card on that motherfucker. No, it's more like it was all about a 2165 02:20:33.799 --> 02:20:37.319 free fall thirty fifty jump out the window. I actually tried it like a 2166 02:20:37.440 --> 02:20:39.799 nople months ago. I got a weird bug. I'm like, I'm gonna 2167 02:20:39.840 --> 02:20:41.639 go buy a fucking Nuance. I had that bug, and I tried. 2168 02:20:41.760 --> 02:20:46.719 I tried to find it impossible to find what really there's one of Shane's bedroom. 2169 02:20:46.879 --> 02:20:48.959 Shane, do you remember when time when we were all like when we're 2170 02:20:48.959 --> 02:20:52.639 working, gamers are common. We decided to go troll the NUAN forum, 2171 02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:58.280 like Shane and I signed up. Wasn't there anyone in the NUAN. It's 2172 02:20:58.360 --> 02:21:05.959 like remember Bob and Shake and the Duan for us. We totally fucking business. 2173 02:21:05.120 --> 02:21:09.799 Yeah, the release four, but it was like it was so basically 2174 02:21:09.799 --> 02:21:11.920 it was all the tempest fans who would buy whatever platform the next game. 2175 02:21:13.879 --> 02:21:16.799 That's felt kind of bad, but it was very It was like the bitter 2176 02:21:16.920 --> 02:21:22.360 dregs of like a Jaguard like Jolia Jaguar for UM in ninety seven and one 2177 02:21:22.440 --> 02:21:30.799 guy posting which I did to say that is the same crowd. So did 2178 02:21:30.840 --> 02:21:33.639 you have this? Is this a NUAN from is this vintage? You didn't 2179 02:21:33.639 --> 02:21:35.399 pick this up later? I got it when it was clearancing and I got 2180 02:21:35.440 --> 02:21:39.639 it for the VLA my Jeff Minter, which I still use. I think 2181 02:21:39.639 --> 02:21:45.239 the many parties at your apartment where we were watching Jeff Miner's Virtual Lighters on 2182 02:21:45.360 --> 02:21:48.799 screen, saying did you ever get a working if? Did you ever get 2183 02:21:48.840 --> 02:21:52.520 your CD? I know, Mark McDonald, you played my CDI so much. 2184 02:21:52.040 --> 02:21:56.000 You played Hotel Mario all night trying to beat Hotel You were there. 2185 02:21:56.120 --> 02:22:01.760 He broke My would have beat Hotel Mario BO Tomorrow is not better than Sonic 2186 02:22:01.840 --> 02:22:07.520 CD is no my default, it would have to be right. I'm gonna 2187 02:22:07.680 --> 02:22:11.600 just admit my ignorance here. I have no idea what the Hotel Mario is, 2188 02:22:11.680 --> 02:22:18.680 but I am a huge Sonic CD fan, so tracks you prefer show 2189 02:22:18.760 --> 02:22:22.159 me on Hotel Mario. What is this game? It's one of the old 2190 02:22:22.239 --> 02:22:26.200 better than worth actually playing on a on a on a CDI hotive to the 2191 02:22:26.239 --> 02:22:31.120 rest of the CDIs library or relatives games. Relative to the rest of the 2192 02:22:31.200 --> 02:22:37.959 C standards, it's esoteric. It's it is the best Mario game set in 2193 02:22:37.959 --> 02:22:46.399 a hotel. I don't really know what's gone. You're right, second best 2194 02:22:46.440 --> 02:22:52.600 Mario games. There might be a hotel and Mario is missing. I think 2195 02:22:52.840 --> 02:22:56.360 there's there's a hotel Maria Dash. You're right. Actually, so it's just 2196 02:22:56.399 --> 02:23:03.639 like the best, fourth, fifth best if you're looking to play a Mario 2197 02:23:03.719 --> 02:23:05.719 game set in a hotel. And also if these if this is your Venn 2198 02:23:05.760 --> 02:23:11.879 diagram. Yeah. The CDI controller also is uh shall we say a unique 2199 02:23:11.399 --> 02:23:15.840 recursor. It's kind of like a we mode with like another twenty buttons on 2200 02:23:15.920 --> 02:23:20.079 it. Yeah, except that the fucking like deep pad on. I mean, 2201 02:23:20.200 --> 02:23:24.719 it's like it's terrors, It's horrible. It's as bad as like a 2202 02:23:24.799 --> 02:23:31.719 Jaguar pad control on excellently calculated. Though, Yeah, totally pauses, you're 2203 02:23:31.719 --> 02:23:35.040 moving. I really didn't gonna be talking about Nuan and CDI to run up 2204 02:23:35.079 --> 02:23:43.159 up three eleven at the very beginning. You know, it's really the hottest 2205 02:23:43.239 --> 02:23:46.719 cutting edge news talked about. No, no, no, this is good 2206 02:23:46.760 --> 02:23:50.440 stuff. You are good. No, this is the good stuff. We're 2207 02:23:50.520 --> 02:23:52.479 in it right now. Make no mistake. What am I gonna do talk 2208 02:23:52.520 --> 02:23:56.399 to David Ellis about what he can't say about Halo, Like, we're not 2209 02:23:56.520 --> 02:24:00.360 really here to talk about that. Well, David Elis was saying that the 2210 02:24:00.440 --> 02:24:03.040 Halo four CG teaser. He was very upset that the Halo stuff leaked out 2211 02:24:03.040 --> 02:24:05.120 that morning because it was there supposed to be like a bait and switch. 2212 02:24:05.159 --> 02:24:07.520 You weren't supposed to tell what game it was, Like, I wonder if 2213 02:24:07.559 --> 02:24:13.079 it's a different Space Marine O Space Marine. But you know how the video 2214 02:24:13.200 --> 02:24:16.360 started, it was like fucking synapses firing or but then you hear the voice 2215 02:24:16.559 --> 02:24:20.319 and and that like even when it's really yeah, but you can hear. 2216 02:24:20.399 --> 02:24:22.600 But if you can hear, it doesn't matter what the voice is saying. 2217 02:24:22.879 --> 02:24:28.440 That tone like it that people it's so specific. I agree. Like I 2218 02:24:28.559 --> 02:24:31.840 was actually kind of bummed, like knowing that it was gonna be Halo four, 2219 02:24:31.079 --> 02:24:33.760 right, because like if that had just come out, that would have 2220 02:24:33.840 --> 02:24:37.959 been Because what I love about E three is the holy shit moments. I 2221 02:24:37.040 --> 02:24:41.479 love the biggest surprises, and you just you never get them anymore. You 2222 02:24:41.559 --> 02:24:43.280 knew that Nintendo was going to announce a new a new system, you know, 2223 02:24:43.360 --> 02:24:46.719 and you knew almost everything about all the stuff about the controller, like 2224 02:24:46.719 --> 02:24:48.040 a lot of that stuff had already gotten out, and and same thing with 2225 02:24:48.159 --> 02:24:50.719 with Halo fource, Like I watched him, like okay, that's it's a 2226 02:24:50.760 --> 02:24:56.079 pretty pretty good, pretty exciting kind there kind of was a holy shit moment 2227 02:24:56.159 --> 02:25:01.200 in in Nintendo's conference. They just didn't mention it when HD Zelda. But 2228 02:25:01.280 --> 02:25:03.239 then again, but that's just I mean, that's not a game, but 2229 02:25:03.360 --> 02:25:09.000 it's like you but if you could game, we thought that was going to 2230 02:25:09.000 --> 02:25:11.120 be a game, I mean, and then they went back and showy, 2231 02:25:13.120 --> 02:25:18.000 but it's it's it's why they continually said that stuff is that they knew how 2232 02:25:18.079 --> 02:25:20.360 hard they had been burned at Space World with with you know, Shane's absolutely 2233 02:25:20.399 --> 02:25:22.520 right. The CG demos, Yeah it's not yeah, like you know, 2234 02:25:24.200 --> 02:25:28.000 it's they know about audience textations was outa They're very careful. But I think 2235 02:25:28.000 --> 02:25:31.280 the biggest surprise that the INTEND press conference was when the orchestra started playing. 2236 02:25:31.280 --> 02:25:35.000 I was fucking flipped my lips. I will see at home. That did 2237 02:25:35.079 --> 02:25:37.479 not play nearly as well as it clearly did. Oh my god, it 2238 02:25:37.959 --> 02:25:43.840 was. It was like about to shoot myself, Come on it, sport 2239 02:25:43.079 --> 02:25:50.120 expect the biggest like oh shit moments when is the ps vita the price announcement 2240 02:25:50.200 --> 02:25:54.799 problem. But even that made like one hundred dollars more than that because I 2241 02:25:54.879 --> 02:25:56.559 thought they could get away with it. It's it's substantial, but even that 2242 02:25:56.680 --> 02:26:01.200 league, like before the press conference was over, mostdprsent on a press release 2243 02:26:03.120 --> 02:26:07.840 actually actually got it before the press conference started. If I didn't work at 2244 02:26:07.840 --> 02:26:09.399 the press conference. So yeah, like a lot of people, there was 2245 02:26:09.440 --> 02:26:20.000 an audible and then the other that's USD Like the first the first thing happened 2246 02:26:20.040 --> 02:26:24.479 is this guy just you just get this like huge belly laugh from a guy 2247 02:26:24.639 --> 02:26:28.600 just rakes the silence and then just booze and hissing. My thing is like, 2248 02:26:28.719 --> 02:26:31.280 does nobody they have run throughs, they have practices, somebody writes that 2249 02:26:31.360 --> 02:26:35.440 script. Does nobody at any point be like, hey, maybe we don't 2250 02:26:35.479 --> 02:26:43.680 want to hit the nation's probably mine so hard before it because they especial that's 2251 02:26:43.680 --> 02:26:48.479 what they call it. Terrible reception drop calls all the time, like, 2252 02:26:48.680 --> 02:26:50.799 actually have better luck down here than I did. Really, yeah, really, 2253 02:26:52.120 --> 02:26:54.360 it's fucking it's awful, not in the confesstion center. That was my 2254 02:26:54.440 --> 02:27:00.600 favorite part of press conference was mister Penguin Hands, who talked throughout the part 2255 02:27:00.680 --> 02:27:03.760 of it. Who anyone anyone who watched which game when he was like the 2256 02:27:03.799 --> 02:27:07.319 PSCN guy or I can't remember what his name was, but the entire time 2257 02:27:07.360 --> 02:27:11.399 he was talking, his fingers never spread apart any of them in concerts. 2258 02:27:11.399 --> 02:27:15.120 Well, I think we can all agree other other than the AT and T 2259 02:27:15.200 --> 02:27:20.760 announcement that great job Jeremy was the big takeaway from the Sony press conference. 2260 02:27:20.120 --> 02:27:22.120 I don't know about you guys, but we have been we have been saying 2261 02:27:22.159 --> 02:27:26.319 to each other here in the house, just like, great job Jeremy. 2262 02:27:28.000 --> 02:27:31.440 But you know, even even kind of you know, the schadenfreud of moments 2263 02:27:31.959 --> 02:27:35.959 of a press conference like that. It's it's almost like like you do you 2264 02:27:37.079 --> 02:27:39.479 do have to feel for these like I was in the room for the for 2265 02:27:39.559 --> 02:27:43.920 the AT and T announcement, and just you feel for Kaz because he's just 2266 02:27:43.920 --> 02:27:46.840 standing up there by himself and he has to say it. He can't not 2267 02:27:46.040 --> 02:27:50.360 say it. He knew it was coming like some sort of reactions and I 2268 02:27:50.399 --> 02:27:52.799 don't think that. I don't think that, but he still had to write 2269 02:27:52.840 --> 02:27:56.239 it out. Regard to amused though, well, he was like he's like 2270 02:27:56.920 --> 02:28:03.959 simple people, there's no graceful way exactly to segue because you can't just like 2271 02:28:05.639 --> 02:28:13.559 talk immediately and you can't gone incidents and our executive part of the everybody I 2272 02:28:13.600 --> 02:28:16.280 didn't see. I haven't seen next Box conference yet. What was the response 2273 02:28:16.360 --> 02:28:20.559 to Star Wars Connect? I can tell you what My respartment was crowded, 2274 02:28:20.639 --> 02:28:22.520 cheers, I mean during the press CONTI yes, it seemed a little quiet, 2275 02:28:24.159 --> 02:28:26.000 It seemed a little sash. It wasn't quiet when they show a Star 2276 02:28:26.040 --> 02:28:31.479 Wars cannact. Yeah, that's true because it was the one game game that 2277 02:28:31.559 --> 02:28:39.959 they showed while we were all wearing the like moo moos. But yeah, 2278 02:28:39.040 --> 02:28:43.479 that game. I mean, like, whose aspirational fantasy is it to be 2279 02:28:43.719 --> 02:28:48.959 Star Wars Kid? Like every kid ever and you're sitting at pod race or 2280 02:28:48.000 --> 02:28:52.920 just go yeah, I mean what is the game about? Yeah, Star 2281 02:28:52.959 --> 02:28:58.040 Wars Kid? Well you saw though I saw. I should not admit that 2282 02:28:58.079 --> 02:29:03.319 out loud on a podcast a little late. Basically, I mean it just 2283 02:29:03.479 --> 02:29:09.120 looked really this is live, im precise. Yeah, and it's delay on 2284 02:29:09.200 --> 02:29:13.479 everything a little. The fantasy of the Star Wars game is always when motion 2285 02:29:13.479 --> 02:29:16.360 controls introduced, is the lightsaber. And when they showed the lightsaber stuff, 2286 02:29:16.360 --> 02:29:20.920 it was the least impressive part of it because it was he was just bouncing, 2287 02:29:20.000 --> 02:29:22.760 floating from the guy to guy. It was the best parts were like 2288 02:29:22.920 --> 02:29:28.399 forced pushing droids. Yeah, the best part was the best part was lightsaber 2289 02:29:28.520 --> 02:29:33.200 on, which is which is not something you actually have to do in that 2290 02:29:33.280 --> 02:29:37.680 game. Uh. With a nice little dramatic flare there, I mean hearing 2291 02:29:37.760 --> 02:29:39.879 hearing talking to like the double Fine guys about like Tim Shafer's involvement and that, 2292 02:29:41.360 --> 02:29:43.040 uh you know, I don't I don't know that there is like obviously 2293 02:29:43.120 --> 02:29:46.680 there are repeated run throughs. They are you know, trying to nail this 2294 02:29:46.719 --> 02:29:48.239 stuff down as well as they can. But but I don't know that the 2295 02:29:48.319 --> 02:29:56.040 people that are like writing and producing it necessarily have the perspective. I think, 2296 02:29:56.079 --> 02:29:58.440 you know, you're you're working on it. It's I think it's maybe 2297 02:29:58.479 --> 02:30:01.520 hard to see outside because you know, they were talking about yeah, and 2298 02:30:01.520 --> 02:30:03.959 you know, Tim came up and they did run through, and he was 2299 02:30:03.000 --> 02:30:05.760 like, yeah, we need to we need to rewrite some of the stuff. 2300 02:30:05.760 --> 02:30:09.000 And he went back and and you know added a lot of like the 2301 02:30:09.239 --> 02:30:11.840 kind of the fun touches that that made that specific demo kind of stand out. 2302 02:30:11.879 --> 02:30:16.079 It's like the simulated family unit stuff like that was that was all Tim 2303 02:30:16.200 --> 02:30:20.040 and and like that, like coming off of the Disneyland thing, which and 2304 02:30:20.200 --> 02:30:24.040 and to be clear, and both that Star Wars game and that Disneyland game 2305 02:30:24.040 --> 02:30:26.120 are gonna fucking sell through the roof. They like, it doesn't matter if 2306 02:30:26.399 --> 02:30:31.559 if we all think it was corny, because yeah, yeah, and Star 2307 02:30:31.600 --> 02:30:33.399 Wars, I mean, they're setting it in the Clone Wars stuff for a 2308 02:30:33.440 --> 02:30:35.040 reason. They don't care what old man Star Wars thinks about it. They 2309 02:30:35.120 --> 02:30:39.920 care about the kids who are actually buying Star Wars ship watchings, and which 2310 02:30:39.959 --> 02:30:43.760 is very so let me, but let me just play Devil's Advocate. Can 2311 02:30:43.799 --> 02:30:46.879 you not make a Star Wars game that kids, kids are gonna buy whatever 2312 02:30:46.120 --> 02:30:50.760 shitty old game? Can you not make a Star Wars game that kids are 2313 02:30:50.760 --> 02:30:54.680 gonna buy that? Also like old man Star Wars? Can a big big 2314 02:30:54.760 --> 02:31:07.319 fan is gonna buy t you can win a Lightsaber sound and I the fucking 2315 02:31:07.399 --> 02:31:09.559 John Williams music and most people are there. You just don't make it super 2316 02:31:09.639 --> 02:31:13.799 shitty and most people will be there. Ergo Lego Star Wars, which I 2317 02:31:13.879 --> 02:31:16.920 will make six of them. I think, yeah, is actually kind of 2318 02:31:16.959 --> 02:31:22.079 a shitty game, but it's just okay, and so people are like it's 2319 02:31:22.120 --> 02:31:26.239 actually really good. Actually reminds me. Game reminds me when nintendoous the exclusive 2320 02:31:26.360 --> 02:31:30.799 like Lego GTA for three DS and you nobody cared, Like nobody can have 2321 02:31:31.000 --> 02:31:35.479 Lego. It's not for you. What's really called like bringing it brick City 2322 02:31:35.879 --> 02:31:39.159 city stories, City stories, Yeah, Libody Cities. Isn't that only trademark 2323 02:31:39.239 --> 02:31:43.120 to rock story anyway? Whereas they smash a red Man has Brick City when 2324 02:31:43.399 --> 02:31:48.239 when sind me like, you know, like I think she I heard that. 2325 02:31:48.440 --> 02:31:50.799 I think you know an smash by like, yes, we will make 2326 02:31:50.840 --> 02:31:52.760 us smash by this game at some point in the future. We have not 2327 02:31:52.840 --> 02:31:56.840 started working on it at all, but I was reading for that part and 2328 02:31:58.079 --> 02:32:01.600 it's like, what cool thing is they now that it's a three DS one 2329 02:32:01.639 --> 02:32:05.760 as well, because Smash has not come to the portable systems before. So 2330 02:32:05.040 --> 02:32:07.799 that's cool. Yeah. I agree, it's not worth screaming at the top 2331 02:32:07.799 --> 02:32:13.000 of your lungsin is that you're about to face. Yeah, but I think 2332 02:32:13.000 --> 02:32:20.559 it's I think it's cool, honestly, Andrew Fister, Hi, thanks for 2333 02:32:20.680 --> 02:32:22.200 checking in. I just wanted to make sure everything's cool with you. Freedom 2334 02:32:22.200 --> 02:32:26.399 Tour whoo whoo. Yeah yeah, Freedom Tour is going well. So what 2335 02:32:26.479 --> 02:32:28.760 does that? What does that mean to your to your time at the show? 2336 02:32:28.920 --> 02:32:33.559 Like obviously you still here see pretty much anything that was the worst thing 2337 02:32:33.600 --> 02:32:35.760 you saw either the worst thing I saw at E three. Oh it pains 2338 02:32:35.799 --> 02:32:43.799 me to say it. Sex don't tell me that that's a qualified not worst, 2339 02:32:43.000 --> 02:32:46.159 but maybe you shouldn't have. They got rid of the play it, 2340 02:32:46.280 --> 02:32:48.360 but they got rid of the old arts style that we didn't like, right, 2341 02:32:48.600 --> 02:32:50.840 like kind of the same as worst, kind of like if you have 2342 02:32:50.959 --> 02:32:54.239 to say that, like I would have really loved it if it had been 2343 02:32:54.319 --> 02:32:56.200 just a trailer, I like that kind of means it was the worst. 2344 02:32:58.000 --> 02:33:03.319 Yeah, maybe it was just it seemed very rough and it didn't seem as 2345 02:33:03.399 --> 02:33:07.760 smooth and as responsive as I remember SSX being. And maybe my memory is 2346 02:33:07.799 --> 02:33:11.959 wrong, but it just didn't seem like it was ready. When does it 2347 02:33:11.000 --> 02:33:15.680 come out? January twenty twelve, So it's got some time and they're gonna 2348 02:33:15.680 --> 02:33:18.120 do another big rollout at games Colm the guy I was saying, So I 2349 02:33:18.239 --> 02:33:22.520 still have vote for it, but my first impression is I still really want 2350 02:33:22.559 --> 02:33:24.799 to love it, but I'm not quite there. But you can drop into 2351 02:33:24.840 --> 02:33:31.799 any mountain fugial world except for Mount Fuji only on play station exclusive mountain. 2352 02:33:31.479 --> 02:33:35.799 Yeah, how do you have an exclusive mountain version? It's just flat terrain? 2353 02:33:37.440 --> 02:33:41.600 Yeah, no mountain here. You have to snow skate across twenty miles 2354 02:33:43.000 --> 02:33:46.559 harkour run like need for speed? That is that is a bummer. But 2355 02:33:46.719 --> 02:33:50.840 what's the what are the highlights? BioShock? Obviously it's been mentioned thousands and 2356 02:33:50.879 --> 02:33:54.040 thousands of times. Yeah, I'm not an old school X com fan. 2357 02:33:54.079 --> 02:33:56.520 I never played it. I'm going to at some point, but I really 2358 02:33:56.920 --> 02:34:01.000 liked the x Com demo that I saw. Yeah, it was interesting because 2359 02:34:01.000 --> 02:34:05.120 I think everybody hates x Com just because it is not the old school games. 2360 02:34:05.120 --> 02:34:07.079 I ran in a couple of people, a couple of people today, 2361 02:34:07.399 --> 02:34:09.879 and they're like, actually, like, I'm actually kind of wondering, like 2362 02:34:09.959 --> 02:34:11.319 why they called it x Com because it seems like it could be a cool 2363 02:34:11.399 --> 02:34:15.159 game, but it has no relation to the old games, So like, 2364 02:34:15.280 --> 02:34:16.879 why not there's aliens, little relation to the ald games, as you think, 2365 02:34:16.879 --> 02:34:18.920 I think, You're like, actually, I was talking to Kat Bailey, 2366 02:34:18.920 --> 02:34:24.799 who is like the straight aliens, what even even beyond the aliens, 2367 02:34:24.840 --> 02:34:28.239 Like there are things about the research and the tactical elements that they brought back 2368 02:34:28.280 --> 02:34:30.639 in. They were saying, like they went dark, they took it offline 2369 02:34:30.680 --> 02:34:33.840 for whatnoight. Kat Bailey is a huge strategy fan, and so I would 2370 02:34:33.959 --> 02:34:37.000 kind of trust her judgment, and she actually was. She was like very 2371 02:34:37.120 --> 02:34:39.840 pleased. I don't know, if you know, I can't say for her 2372 02:34:39.920 --> 02:34:43.520 whether she would be more pleased with a you know, direct sequel, you 2373 02:34:43.559 --> 02:34:45.559 know, right in genre. I mean, it's still a first person shooter. 2374 02:34:45.680 --> 02:34:48.760 Makes a long way since they shared it last year, and I think 2375 02:34:48.040 --> 02:34:50.920 definitely if there's an award for like most improved year of a year. Like, 2376 02:34:50.959 --> 02:34:54.120 I was very impassed with the changes they were able to make with you 2377 02:34:54.159 --> 02:34:58.000 know, Jordan Thomas coming on and the guys that two came around working on 2378 02:34:58.120 --> 02:35:01.280 it. I love I love the setting, I love the art style. 2379 02:35:01.399 --> 02:35:03.200 I think the stuff that they've done with the kind of the alien design stuff 2380 02:35:03.239 --> 02:35:07.559 is interesting at least uh and uh and yeah, and they they are at 2381 02:35:07.600 --> 02:35:13.120 least you know, paying homage to to to two elements of x COM to 2382 02:35:13.399 --> 02:35:16.200 to justify uh, you know what, why you would use that name or 2383 02:35:16.239 --> 02:35:20.680 not? Just like and we own it and and you know we're, yeah, 2384 02:35:20.719 --> 02:35:22.840 we're just gonna use it whatever. But at the same time, like 2385 02:35:22.920 --> 02:35:26.520 I don't think you you can't, you can't base these decisions hirely off of 2386 02:35:26.799 --> 02:35:30.799 Like if you think about the number of people that actually play at XCOM and 2387 02:35:30.879 --> 02:35:35.239 love x COM, it's a really small number of people. You don't in 2388 02:35:35.319 --> 02:35:41.000 a very in a modern game audience. Worked at retail when that was literally 2389 02:35:41.120 --> 02:35:43.399 my very first video game review and it was well, like sold well. 2390 02:35:43.799 --> 02:35:48.319 But but it just think think about the size of the audience. It's it's 2391 02:35:48.360 --> 02:35:50.799 a matter of yes, it was well loved by a lot of people, 2392 02:35:50.840 --> 02:35:52.280 then a lot of people. Then is not very many people. Yeah, 2393 02:35:52.319 --> 02:35:56.959 but there's still the question of do you really need to bring it back if 2394 02:35:56.000 --> 02:35:58.680 you're not going to do you know what I mean? Like I'm not saying 2395 02:35:58.719 --> 02:36:01.879 that it's a right or wrong answer, but you know what I mean, 2396 02:36:01.000 --> 02:36:05.120 Like if it's so long ago, I mean, sure, you know, 2397 02:36:05.360 --> 02:36:07.360 because it's because of your logic, you can't satisfy the people who actually care 2398 02:36:07.399 --> 02:36:13.639 about it. So it's but it's a ripe concept for or reinvention, right, 2399 02:36:13.719 --> 02:36:16.440 But so why did you have to call it XCOM because why doesn't fucking 2400 02:36:16.520 --> 02:36:20.200 name? Yeah? Sure, you're also alienating the people that did like it 2401 02:36:20.280 --> 02:36:22.799 before, and they're actually gonna be a lot more vocal than the people that 2402 02:36:24.079 --> 02:36:26.360 don't know anything about it. Didn't matter with the fall Out three. I 2403 02:36:26.399 --> 02:36:28.559 mean, the same thing happened there. It just didn't matter. The name 2404 02:36:28.000 --> 02:36:33.399 was pretty close to it was basically, I mean, we talked about this 2405 02:36:33.479 --> 02:36:37.280 before, and like you can't listen to the lunatics like a certain point, 2406 02:36:37.399 --> 02:36:39.200 a certain point you have to make a game. You know, also can't 2407 02:36:39.319 --> 02:36:43.159 call everyone who has an issue with AIP is street of lunatic. I know 2408 02:36:43.239 --> 02:36:46.840 fall has a lot of lunatic fans, okay, but I'm saying that the 2409 02:36:46.120 --> 02:36:50.000 vocal minority is is that no mutants allowed group. You're right, not everyone. 2410 02:36:50.319 --> 02:36:52.520 We can we can talk some shit about fall Out here, no doubt 2411 02:36:52.559 --> 02:36:56.479 everyone here. I'm sure it has some issues with with those you know, 2412 02:36:56.559 --> 02:36:58.440 the way those games. I just think everyone is a fan something has issues 2413 02:36:58.479 --> 02:37:01.079 with the way they're series have been trained at one point. Yeah, yeah, 2414 02:37:01.200 --> 02:37:07.559 for sure. You know. I'm with the scale I love as a 2415 02:37:07.639 --> 02:37:11.639 sex goddamn pins and needles, hoping that they can bring it back in a 2416 02:37:11.879 --> 02:37:15.280 relevant solid of games. And I saw a lot of them are shooters, 2417 02:37:15.360 --> 02:37:18.600 and I just kind of accepted that, and I started looking in the shooters 2418 02:37:18.719 --> 02:37:22.239 like, yeah, what is everyone doing speaking of in the shooter franchises? 2419 02:37:22.319 --> 02:37:26.840 That shit in the mouth of its fans. What's the Sonic games? Did 2420 02:37:26.879 --> 02:37:31.280 anybody play? I watched about fifteen minutes of Sonic Generations and it's really almost 2421 02:37:31.399 --> 02:37:35.120 too fast. I'm not the biggest watching three sixty. I think he was 2422 02:37:35.120 --> 02:37:37.440 playing with sixty pa. I've trapped in the Sonic cycle. You know, 2423 02:37:37.440 --> 02:37:43.399 I was just talking about Sonic You pour best Choy trapped and as a huge 2424 02:37:43.440 --> 02:37:46.520 Sonic CV super fan, the fact that they're mining Sonic CD instut for this 2425 02:37:46.639 --> 02:37:50.680 one make me want to care again. Yeah, I'm might not time to 2426 02:37:50.719 --> 02:37:52.760 go play it, but I set my proxy Rob to go play it, 2427 02:37:52.879 --> 02:37:56.440 and he was playing the PS three version in three D and apparently the framemate 2428 02:37:56.559 --> 02:38:00.639 was like three He was like unplayable. So now I want to check out 2429 02:38:00.639 --> 02:38:03.559 the three six versity if that's better, maybe the three DS version. I 2430 02:38:03.639 --> 02:38:07.040 like the idea of you know, like no shitty friends getting back to basics 2431 02:38:09.280 --> 02:38:11.719 playing in two D, but it's probably problem. I think it's a cool 2432 02:38:11.760 --> 02:38:16.120 idea. I'm just wondering if they executed. Yeah, I've heard mixed, 2433 02:38:16.159 --> 02:38:20.399 mixed reports. You know, there's some different franchises that I once loved, 2434 02:38:20.399 --> 02:38:24.200 the now a little over for me. Technic. There are currently six announced 2435 02:38:24.280 --> 02:38:30.920 techn games, six through the six announced through them there's Tech and Cross Street 2436 02:38:30.920 --> 02:38:33.719 Fighter, Street Fighter, Cross Tech in Tech and seven Tech in three D 2437 02:38:33.920 --> 02:38:41.920 has techond with six second games announce there's no no wait, there's no Vita 2438 02:38:41.000 --> 02:38:48.639 one. Yeah, Technic with you if Technology across second with Cold from inform 2439 02:38:48.399 --> 02:38:52.840 checking, we you looks like worse for him? Well, those those aren't 2440 02:38:52.879 --> 02:38:54.920 make make no think those aren't games like all the stuff that they're showing for 2441 02:38:56.040 --> 02:39:01.200 like those we you like concept games, just some different you never wanted to 2442 02:39:01.319 --> 02:39:05.680 draw on his face. That's the thing though. It was mixed a montage 2443 02:39:05.719 --> 02:39:09.879 of things that were like, oh, he has three and three sixty games 2444 02:39:09.920 --> 02:39:13.559 and this is clearly that was not right. But it's like, fine, 2445 02:39:13.639 --> 02:39:16.120 don't show it. Show fucking second, you know, four or five. 2446 02:39:16.159 --> 02:39:20.000 I mean it looked like yeah, when tech producer like this is the first 2447 02:39:20.000 --> 02:39:22.040 time techns ever come to Antendo console and every other console in the world. 2448 02:39:22.040 --> 02:39:26.680 We're making six different games, so so I mean I mean to speak to 2449 02:39:26.760 --> 02:39:28.680 kind of like the quality of the look of we used off. It sounds 2450 02:39:28.719 --> 02:39:33.680 like that that platform like they don't talk specs because Nintendo doesn't talk specs, 2451 02:39:33.719 --> 02:39:37.200 but also it sounds like that platform is still very fluid. Space specs got 2452 02:39:37.280 --> 02:39:39.559 announced. You can go out on Nintendo's website and look at that. You 2453 02:39:39.600 --> 02:39:43.040 can wait, it's a five hundred, five thousand series. He has all 2454 02:39:43.120 --> 02:39:50.040 who's making all the parts, the architecture similar to three sixty like we saw 2455 02:39:50.120 --> 02:39:54.680 today, showed that game like Monster Ghost, the Alien Hunters, see yesterday, 2456 02:39:54.040 --> 02:39:58.040 Killer Space that day. Yeah, but it has Killer Fiolence from Space 2457 02:39:58.360 --> 02:40:01.440 similar, but it has graphics that are meant to be like indicative of what 2458 02:40:01.520 --> 02:40:09.159 the right you know that game is prepa I think as well, Yeah, 2459 02:40:09.319 --> 02:40:11.959 don't get me wrong, will you. I think we'll look as good or 2460 02:40:11.040 --> 02:40:16.959 better. I mean maybe like Fly played it today. Yeah. Yeah, 2461 02:40:16.959 --> 02:40:20.040 it's a couple of guys from Nintendo will kind of have to go this and 2462 02:40:20.280 --> 02:40:22.120 we actually guys has to play around with a little bit. I'm curious. 2463 02:40:22.120 --> 02:40:26.399 I think Nintendo was showing over the years that when they first show a platform 2464 02:40:26.440 --> 02:40:28.840 to win the launches, they learn and they make some urgonomic changes. And 2465 02:40:28.840 --> 02:40:33.319 I think they're gonna be some necessary orgonomic changes to Really I have to disagree. 2466 02:40:33.360 --> 02:40:43.520 I think that that thing feels disagree it was too heavy. What do 2467 02:40:43.559 --> 02:40:46.520 you what do you think is wrong with the buttons? Just placements wrong? 2468 02:40:48.879 --> 02:40:52.000 Uh, it's so for me. No. I actually some time picking up 2469 02:40:52.120 --> 02:40:54.200 playing it, I needed to kind of do the clause. Well. One 2470 02:40:54.239 --> 02:40:58.239 thing that was interesting that was pointed out to me is that just that the 2471 02:40:58.680 --> 02:41:01.760 analog stick is above the buttons, which is a bit odd at it's it's 2472 02:41:01.799 --> 02:41:03.879 and and honestly it's just the one on the right. And when I was 2473 02:41:03.920 --> 02:41:07.760 doing that, the quaw to do both triggers at the same time to bend 2474 02:41:07.799 --> 02:41:11.639 my thumb down to the face button was very uncomfortable and actually hurt. I 2475 02:41:11.719 --> 02:41:18.159 guess I'm I'm I am not a two finger on the shoulders. I was 2476 02:41:20.479 --> 02:41:22.079 there, but I felt like that's what they wanted me to do, the 2477 02:41:22.120 --> 02:41:26.200 way it's designed. Yeah, I don't think any of the demos were having 2478 02:41:26.239 --> 02:41:28.440 you use both. Yeah, that's that's so. It was. It was 2479 02:41:28.479 --> 02:41:31.000 hard to uh, I mean yeah, if you it's sort of played for 2480 02:41:31.079 --> 02:41:35.000 tend I think, to get a full feel for it. Sure, Yeah, 2481 02:41:35.079 --> 02:41:37.879 I was actually so. I mean like I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised 2482 02:41:37.920 --> 02:41:41.239 by some tweaks, but I think like fundamentally, you know, size and 2483 02:41:41.280 --> 02:41:43.959 shape of it, the way it feels, the weight, the look of 2484 02:41:45.000 --> 02:41:48.040 the screen, like these these these these basic things like and it works. 2485 02:41:48.120 --> 02:41:52.239 Like that's that's the stuff you gotta nail, you know. The first let's 2486 02:41:52.239 --> 02:41:58.239 talk about the first Xbox controller, like like talking about about the Duke, 2487 02:41:58.399 --> 02:42:03.399 the greatest controller for a first question shooter ever, handed down from God himself 2488 02:42:03.520 --> 02:42:07.559 to Master Chief for your enjoyment to his Lap, which was the only game 2489 02:42:07.559 --> 02:42:09.760 you're playing on Xbox One anyway, So yeah, at the time perhaps, 2490 02:42:11.399 --> 02:42:15.559 but until they came out with Yes Games, there was the Fusion Frenzy demo, 2491 02:42:15.639 --> 02:42:20.040 which was fantastic. Wow, Fusion fenz the Shrek game for Xbox One. 2492 02:42:20.040 --> 02:42:24.639 I remember, I remember that, I'll serve you get the Cherry Race 2493 02:42:24.719 --> 02:42:28.120 gamer. But that thing, Oh my god, Circus Maximus. Would it 2494 02:42:28.200 --> 02:42:30.840 be cool to have a duke controller he made for a three sixty? Would 2495 02:42:30.879 --> 02:42:33.360 that be cool? Sure? Oh yeah, that would be so cool, 2496 02:42:33.639 --> 02:42:37.079 as cool as the Techy Gold remote for then. I'm sure people broke out 2497 02:42:37.120 --> 02:42:41.920 into tears and songs. I'm actually gonna because I don't have a remote plus, 2498 02:42:41.360 --> 02:42:52.399 but I mean it's partially chance. I think we're gonna. It's it's 2499 02:42:52.399 --> 02:42:58.280 about time for us to start wrapping this. This this is the real ends. 2500 02:42:58.479 --> 02:43:03.479 This is this is Bob name, like you know, like it's game 2501 02:43:03.520 --> 02:43:05.239 of show. Do I do awards or anything? We I mean, we 2502 02:43:05.680 --> 02:43:09.239 typically don't. I think you know, everyone came away super impressed with BioShock 2503 02:43:09.319 --> 02:43:13.319 Infinite. I think that's a clear lead for a game that that all of 2504 02:43:13.479 --> 02:43:16.680 us saw like it was a game that we all made a point to see 2505 02:43:16.879 --> 02:43:20.520 because you know, we we felt that it was going to be an important 2506 02:43:20.559 --> 02:43:24.120 game at the show. Uh A lot. I didn't get to see it 2507 02:43:24.159 --> 02:43:28.000 myself, and I'm I'm disappointed in that I didn't get to see Pray Too 2508 02:43:28.959 --> 02:43:31.079 surprise, which everyone ever, like, you know, you want to talk 2509 02:43:31.120 --> 02:43:35.680 about most improved, Uh, you know that that first game whatever. But 2510 02:43:35.040 --> 02:43:39.280 everyone that's seen this what they're showing from Pray two comes away super super impressed. 2511 02:43:39.760 --> 02:43:45.120 Uh. I've also you know, I think Skyrim is is potentially up 2512 02:43:45.159 --> 02:43:48.280 there. What are the surprise? What was the surprise of the show, 2513 02:43:48.399 --> 02:43:52.159 the thing that you didn't see coming didn't expect. I feel like there weren't 2514 02:43:52.159 --> 02:43:54.719 any surprises. Actually, Pray she was a huge surprise. I mean, 2515 02:43:54.760 --> 02:43:58.399 who had Like my surprise for that, which is kind of negative surprise, 2516 02:43:58.479 --> 02:44:03.000 is that I wasn't into Mario three DS. Yeah, we were talking about 2517 02:44:03.040 --> 02:44:07.719 that. It's slow. It's it's not just slow that the perspective is on 2518 02:44:07.879 --> 02:44:11.719 screen, it's it's yeah, it's the camera is weird. But I think 2519 02:44:11.760 --> 02:44:13.440 the fundamental problem with it is, or what seems to be the problem based 2520 02:44:13.479 --> 02:44:16.840 on my I played off, I played bold down was just four levels. 2521 02:44:16.879 --> 02:44:22.040 Yeah, the boss was Sarah Mario boss. I mean, let's not talk. 2522 02:44:22.239 --> 02:44:24.920 You know. The thing that's weird about it is that it's this sort 2523 02:44:24.959 --> 02:44:28.559 of like compromise between two D and three D. Yeah, and I have 2524 02:44:28.680 --> 02:44:31.440 camera control, but it's like weird because it's it's it's all very grid like, 2525 02:44:31.680 --> 02:44:33.680 you know what I mean, you're walking back or you're walking to the 2526 02:44:33.760 --> 02:44:37.879 side, you know. And and Koizumi in the round table talked about how 2527 02:44:37.920 --> 02:44:41.840 he wanted to bring Mario back to fundamentals and bring like a lot of the 2528 02:44:41.959 --> 02:44:45.159 the the two D Mario things that had never been in the three D games, 2529 02:44:45.280 --> 02:44:48.719 like flag Bowl jumping and running with b into the series. But I 2530 02:44:48.920 --> 02:44:54.360 just was like, it's neither here nor there. That's somebody was saying actually 2531 02:44:54.399 --> 02:45:01.040 that it reminded them of Crash Bandicoots too ye levels Yeah, like different, 2532 02:45:01.159 --> 02:45:03.879 Yes, it does. I thought about Crash Panico as well, which is 2533 02:45:03.920 --> 02:45:09.200 not I mean comparison Crashman. It was a crappy ripuff of taking on Country, 2534 02:45:09.239 --> 02:45:15.239 which is a crappy rip off of Mario that is kind of I was 2535 02:45:15.319 --> 02:45:18.879 just disappointed that I couldn't turn the Tanooki suit into a statue. I tried 2536 02:45:18.959 --> 02:45:20.639 that, can you know you? I was asking people that was always forgot. 2537 02:45:20.639 --> 02:45:28.479 I forgot you really can't. It's confirmed and here's the sty So I'm 2538 02:45:28.479 --> 02:45:30.760 like, if I'm gonna have the god damn tanukie suit, I better be 2539 02:45:30.799 --> 02:45:35.200 able to try another d thing is that you uh, like, anytime you 2540 02:45:35.280 --> 02:45:39.159 stand on a pipe that you can go down, it says a little bubble 2541 02:45:39.200 --> 02:45:43.440 pub with an R. Hard to go down pipes because you can't use down. 2542 02:45:43.479 --> 02:45:48.120 So it's like you are sort of taking away you know, I mean 2543 02:45:48.200 --> 02:45:50.479 not like you know, searching for the pipes that work, and Mario is 2544 02:45:50.520 --> 02:45:52.799 like the most fun thing about Mario. But it just felt I don't know, 2545 02:45:52.200 --> 02:45:56.520 it felt it feels off, interesting, feels off. But no, 2546 02:45:56.760 --> 02:46:01.319 no, no positive surprise positive No. I don't know if it's a surprise. 2547 02:46:01.399 --> 02:46:05.479 But Papa and Yo the PSI I've heard ever heard some some things about 2548 02:46:05.479 --> 02:46:09.440 that. It's just a really interesting concept. I was surprised by the U 2549 02:46:09.559 --> 02:46:13.719 rapping during the Fundamacy thirteen two batt Yeah, but not that surprising. They 2550 02:46:13.760 --> 02:46:16.520 had a lot of vocals in follows in thirteen one music, what's theffing? 2551 02:46:16.559 --> 02:46:18.479 I see that? I really, you know, I saw the new hit 2552 02:46:18.559 --> 02:46:22.120 Man game. I only played the last game. I hadn't I you know, 2553 02:46:22.239 --> 02:46:26.239 wasn't deep in this series, but I enjoyed what they showed of that 2554 02:46:26.559 --> 02:46:31.639 anyone else played DSX uh outside of the show, But I've heard some pretty 2555 02:46:31.680 --> 02:46:35.719 bad thing. Yeah, it's it's it's not it's not getting great word of 2556 02:46:35.760 --> 02:46:41.520 mouth at the moment. It's poor. It's a bad game. Okay, 2557 02:46:41.799 --> 02:46:46.239 No, it feels it feels clunky and old is Yeah, the art direction 2558 02:46:46.319 --> 02:46:50.319 is quite sweet. I don't know about the you know, the comparisons have 2559 02:46:50.440 --> 02:46:56.319 been made on this very podcast to like Alpha Crowd Call. Oh, I 2560 02:46:56.399 --> 02:46:58.479 wasn't at the e A press conference. How does the Insomnia game? It 2561 02:46:58.559 --> 02:47:03.559 was just a see the trailer, but it was like there was character there, 2562 02:47:03.639 --> 02:47:09.360 Like it was kind of an interesting blend of of over like no so 2563 02:47:09.520 --> 02:47:13.159 that the uh you know, they're they're goofy, ratchet and clank kind of 2564 02:47:13.200 --> 02:47:18.760 sense of humor stuff. And then also the ridiculous weapons of like resistance. 2565 02:47:18.799 --> 02:47:22.479 What's the premise, Uh, like this kind of things could be like a 2566 02:47:22.600 --> 02:47:28.239 co op third person two. No, there's like it's a four four person 2567 02:47:28.360 --> 02:47:31.079 squad, four person squad. Everyone has you know, kind of unique abilities 2568 02:47:31.079 --> 02:47:33.760 and stuff. Actually speaking, which this is my biggest surprise of the show, 2569 02:47:33.879 --> 02:47:39.040 Brothers and Arms, Furious Flaw Sea Sea Bakers here, even though you 2570 02:47:39.079 --> 02:47:43.040 were showing up, Come on in, sir, it is indeed we are 2571 02:47:43.120 --> 02:47:46.360 shutting down the show. So so come in and watch the final moments here. 2572 02:47:46.639 --> 02:47:48.879 Uh, brother and Hard Freis four, which is like that game that 2573 02:47:48.959 --> 02:47:52.200 they announced ding the Ubisoft Press Commons with just the trailer. They actually showed 2574 02:47:52.280 --> 02:47:54.239 gameplay in a theater at the at the USAF. Actually, I want to 2575 02:47:54.319 --> 02:47:58.479 hear real fast about the trailer. I mean, I'm sorry about the gameplay 2576 02:47:58.520 --> 02:48:01.159 because I saw the trailer and I'm like, why do I want to play 2577 02:48:01.200 --> 02:48:03.920 as one of these assholes? It's like just kill like, at least with 2578 02:48:05.040 --> 02:48:07.360 the glorious bassa. They're killing Nazis. You can't be an asshole if you're 2579 02:48:07.399 --> 02:48:11.799 killing Nazis. But you can when you don't see the Nazis being Nazis and 2580 02:48:11.840 --> 02:48:15.719 you just see a bunch of guys jump into a bar fucking with chainsaws and 2581 02:48:15.879 --> 02:48:18.920 like like frat boys. That's what I'm worried about that game is that they're 2582 02:48:18.920 --> 02:48:24.319 trying to be Tarantino like it's like they're not tart for the Nazi toilet in 2583 02:48:24.399 --> 02:48:33.479 the end of the trail. Let's see what I mean, right, good, 2584 02:48:35.000 --> 02:48:37.840 it's it's I'll tell you this. I mean, forget the premise. 2585 02:48:37.879 --> 02:48:41.319 And I think the use of the name Brothers and Arms is bad. Is 2586 02:48:41.360 --> 02:48:46.440 a bad choice. It looks like the most fun the Gearbox guys are having 2587 02:48:46.479 --> 02:48:50.399 over like the myriad projects that they currently have in the works. Uh, 2588 02:48:50.559 --> 02:48:54.239 Like it's it's crazy and over at the top in a lot of like Borderlands 2589 02:48:54.280 --> 02:48:56.680 kind of ways. Uh, it has a good sense of humor to it, 2590 02:48:56.959 --> 02:49:00.879 and it looks great. It actually looks really really good. There's some 2591 02:49:01.040 --> 02:49:03.879 amazing lighting, some some good kind of set piece moments in the the Devil 2592 02:49:05.040 --> 02:49:07.440 the show, and it's, uh, I'm not I'm not sure the tech 2593 02:49:07.520 --> 02:49:11.079 but you know, four player kind of kind of like to Overstrike, a 2594 02:49:11.159 --> 02:49:16.040 similar concept of four player cooperative everyone with different abilities and they're doing crazy shit. 2595 02:49:16.200 --> 02:49:18.959 Like again, I don't want to go into this too much because we 2596 02:49:18.000 --> 02:49:22.040 talked about this on this podcast, but my moment, like I walked in 2597 02:49:22.159 --> 02:49:24.760 a couple of minutes late to that to that that demo, and as I'm 2598 02:49:24.799 --> 02:49:28.440 walking in, the guys saying all right, so we're gonna take this land 2599 02:49:28.479 --> 02:49:31.719 mine and we're gonna combine it with this bear trap. And I'm like, 2600 02:49:31.760 --> 02:49:33.799 all right, yeah, fucking soul. Whatever it is that you guys are 2601 02:49:33.840 --> 02:49:37.600 doing, then then then yeah, I'm paying attention now. So it's it's 2602 02:49:37.760 --> 02:49:41.520 it's bananas, it's you know, it's not serious at all. Like as 2603 02:49:41.520 --> 02:49:43.000 you can tell from that trailer, I was just surprised that it was a 2604 02:49:43.159 --> 02:49:46.959 game. After after that announcement they showed that trailer, I'm like, Okay, 2605 02:49:46.000 --> 02:49:48.920 we'll see this game in nine months because because all they have is the 2606 02:49:48.920 --> 02:49:52.079 scene to trailer, but the fact that that exists and and that I think 2607 02:49:52.159 --> 02:49:56.920 it looks uh like potentially, you know, goofy stupid fun. I heard 2608 02:49:56.920 --> 02:49:58.479 a lot of I mean, there was a lot of positive fuzz. I 2609 02:49:58.520 --> 02:50:03.200 saw a lot of people tweeting positive stuff about it. Yeah after it But 2610 02:50:03.360 --> 02:50:05.120 me, having only seen the trailer, I was like, yeah, the 2611 02:50:05.200 --> 02:50:07.239 trailer on it's like, you know, it's it's kind of like for me. 2612 02:50:07.360 --> 02:50:11.879 Also, the tomb Rator thing like take take what you will from the 2613 02:50:13.239 --> 02:50:16.440 uh you know that kind of that first half of that that the the demo 2614 02:50:16.479 --> 02:50:20.280 for Tumor that they showed. There's this whole second half they were showing in 2615 02:50:20.319 --> 02:50:24.319 the back of the booth at Square Enix, which is a lot more open. 2616 02:50:24.399 --> 02:50:26.760 It feels more like tomb Rator and you you're seeing like some character growth 2617 02:50:26.799 --> 02:50:31.319 in it, and it it seems like it really is like the potential for 2618 02:50:31.360 --> 02:50:33.840 them to really pay off this idea of of you know, the you know, 2619 02:50:33.920 --> 02:50:39.120 this this young law and that being significant looks fantastic. It's and it's 2620 02:50:39.159 --> 02:50:41.440 a very very like the weather effects and stuff that they have for the environments. 2621 02:50:41.479 --> 02:50:45.840 It's it's it's looking very rest and so I think there was there was 2622 02:50:45.879 --> 02:50:48.440 a ton of games actually at the show that the stuff they were showing publicly 2623 02:50:50.000 --> 02:50:52.120 just and it was It's the weird thing I realized this year the stuff they're 2624 02:50:52.120 --> 02:50:56.280 showing publicly was not the best stuff that they have even to show for these 2625 02:50:56.360 --> 02:50:58.600 games. Yeah, yeah, that was a big thing this year, which 2626 02:51:00.000 --> 02:51:01.959 it baffles me that, you know, and again I don't want to get 2627 02:51:03.120 --> 02:51:05.319 into it because we're running out of time and I've done this before, but 2628 02:51:05.319 --> 02:51:07.200 like, you know, you show off mass effecting, show a real shooting 2629 02:51:07.239 --> 02:51:09.399 sequence, show me mass effects, you know, like I think things like 2630 02:51:09.479 --> 02:51:11.799 that, like let's let's get into what these games actually are, not just 2631 02:51:13.120 --> 02:51:16.040 what's the flashiest moment that we can give people and then keep the actual game 2632 02:51:16.360 --> 02:51:20.120 stuffed way in the back of the booth somewhere. So I don't know, 2633 02:51:20.280 --> 02:51:22.600 I'm not sure I entirely understand, like what the motivation is, like, 2634 02:51:22.799 --> 02:51:28.639 like how how they get to these decisions. But something I noticed and something 2635 02:51:28.639 --> 02:51:31.600 that was kind of disconcerting during the during the show this year, So all 2636 02:51:31.680 --> 02:51:35.760 right, let's let's let's move around the couches here. Let's get some final 2637 02:51:35.840 --> 02:51:39.200 thoughts here. Mark McDonald final thoughts here on on E three, twenty eleven. 2638 02:51:39.639 --> 02:51:46.639 Wow, yeah, the way way way too many? Uh first person 2639 02:51:46.760 --> 02:51:50.280 shooters, Like I think there are there are always too many, But this 2640 02:51:50.440 --> 02:51:52.479 year I was like some of the press conferences, I was like, wow, 2641 02:51:52.840 --> 02:51:58.360 okay, like that's cool, I got it. Like I think, 2642 02:51:58.600 --> 02:52:03.559 whereas everybody was chasing after Halo, now now there's also call of duty and 2643 02:52:03.639 --> 02:52:05.920 it's like, shit, everything's got to be a first person shooter. I 2644 02:52:07.000 --> 02:52:11.559 think too few of them are doing what BioShock Infinite is doing, which I 2645 02:52:11.600 --> 02:52:16.680 think is like actually doing something interesting outside of the shooting or interesting in terms 2646 02:52:16.719 --> 02:52:20.959 of narrative. And stuff. I don't see a lot of nobody's like Chasing 2647 02:52:20.000 --> 02:52:24.399 after Portal unfortunately, Like I don't see a lot of games going. I 2648 02:52:24.479 --> 02:52:26.840 wish they were. They were more like narrative and puzzle based, the first 2649 02:52:26.879 --> 02:52:33.600 person perspective or whatever. Yeah, I guess that's that's about it. Chain. 2650 02:52:35.479 --> 02:52:37.440 You know, I think it's a lot of real remakes this year, 2651 02:52:37.639 --> 02:52:41.399 and normally that is kind of a bad thing. But because there are franchises 2652 02:52:41.399 --> 02:52:43.680 I really love, like Eco, Shadder Classes, Soda Vendors, middle Gear, 2653 02:52:43.760 --> 02:52:46.440 Silent Hill, I'm lining up to these things. I'll buy them all 2654 02:52:46.479 --> 02:52:50.959 again. I feel like Connected Move didn't quite prove themselves, like one year 2655 02:52:52.040 --> 02:52:56.479 later. Yeah, I was surprised at Sony how much time they spent talking 2656 02:52:56.520 --> 02:52:58.280 about Moves. Yeah. I thought both of them, I mean, like 2657 02:52:58.600 --> 02:53:01.680 Moving for huge parts of both of those press conferences, and me, I'm 2658 02:53:01.680 --> 02:53:03.559 like, can you still kind of take it? Believe it? I own 2659 02:53:03.639 --> 02:53:07.680 them both. I'm like, Connect I expect, but Move it's like who 2660 02:53:07.000 --> 02:53:11.200 talks about any I mean for a first person shooter. Yeah, you know, 2661 02:53:11.319 --> 02:53:13.680 it's it's an option I think for those But like when they're making like 2662 02:53:13.760 --> 02:53:16.040 start the Party two, I'm like, is that the right answer. Something 2663 02:53:16.079 --> 02:53:18.920 I don't know. I don't know. So many dancing games, so many 2664 02:53:20.360 --> 02:53:22.440 games. Dancing games are the new guitar games. A lot of dance, 2665 02:53:22.559 --> 02:53:26.879 yeah, exactly, dancing and shooting. That's all people want. It's not 2666 02:53:26.040 --> 02:53:31.479 the first Day three where we didn't have class instrument game instruments pending. That's 2667 02:53:31.520 --> 02:53:35.760 interesting, but there's actually piano three, I think. But you know, 2668 02:53:35.760 --> 02:53:37.479 I think you were great games. You can have that one. But there 2669 02:53:37.520 --> 02:53:41.840 were some like gregious no shows, you know, like Last Guardian not here, 2670 02:53:41.200 --> 02:53:43.520 Medigar Rising not here, So you know, I didn't get everything I 2671 02:53:43.559 --> 02:53:46.760 wanted, But overall I think it was a good either. Yeah. Yeah, 2672 02:53:46.959 --> 02:53:52.280 David Ellis, this is a double one, I mean coming eventually finished. 2673 02:53:52.559 --> 02:53:56.200 Again, we've been out seeing a holiday two and twelve on that one, 2674 02:53:56.239 --> 02:54:00.360 so but we're not really talking about that right now. Fantastic finished the 2675 02:54:00.399 --> 02:54:03.799 fight, start a second fight, Andrew Fish. Uh. The prevalence the 2676 02:54:05.079 --> 02:54:07.760 more important download downloadable games, board diverse, more fun to play. I 2677 02:54:07.799 --> 02:54:11.360 played a bunch of on both PSN and XBLA. One other thing that was 2678 02:54:11.559 --> 02:54:16.079 weirded me out was seeing like at the EA booth, you know where you 2679 02:54:16.159 --> 02:54:22.079 see like PS three three six seeing iPad? Oh yeah, like what FIFA 2680 02:54:22.159 --> 02:54:24.920 wasn't playable on the floor unless you wanted to play the iPad version with two 2681 02:54:24.959 --> 02:54:30.719 I put I pod touches as the controllers. Weird, weird Pere Barthelow thoughts 2682 02:54:31.000 --> 02:54:39.559 closing thoughts here as three twenty eleven shots down. Sure that I did not 2683 02:54:39.680 --> 02:54:41.159 get to leave the booth the entire show, so I really have no thoughts 2684 02:54:41.239 --> 02:54:43.799 on the rest of the show. Could you see a couple other games from 2685 02:54:43.840 --> 02:54:46.239 where you were at in Konami that you could what was what was the most 2686 02:54:46.319 --> 02:54:50.239 annoying audio loop that you can hear from your your location on the floor, 2687 02:54:50.840 --> 02:54:56.000 really just the one that I was playing pitching the game. I love this 2688 02:54:56.159 --> 02:55:01.239 honesty theater. That's you know, it's really a brains lebronze decision. You 2689 02:55:01.280 --> 02:55:03.319 know, if you pick one character, you get a lot of hit points 2690 02:55:03.360 --> 02:55:11.239 and additional strength. Three characters. I know you have assist and I think, 2691 02:55:11.479 --> 02:55:13.719 okay, So that's the worst I was expecting, you know, me 2692 02:55:13.840 --> 02:55:18.319 being an old school fan of Japanese games, you know, honestly, you 2693 02:55:18.360 --> 02:55:20.120 know, I'm really into them. I like the design sensibilities. I was 2694 02:55:20.200 --> 02:55:24.879 really expecting more of a bounce back for Japan this E three, you know, 2695 02:55:24.920 --> 02:55:26.920 because like you know, a lot of creators are super motivated. We 2696 02:55:26.959 --> 02:55:30.239 see, you know, people saying you talk to different creators over estimate Japan. 2697 02:55:30.559 --> 02:55:31.639 Yeah, I know, but no, it's not that I expected, 2698 02:55:31.760 --> 02:55:35.040 like Japan to dominated three and I'm not like a complete it was not a 2699 02:55:35.159 --> 02:55:39.959 single Yeah. So like one thing Japanese developed game in the in the Sony 2700 02:55:39.959 --> 02:55:43.159 press conference was was was I mean that got your stage time? Yeah? 2701 02:55:43.280 --> 02:55:46.959 It was street Fighter Versus Tech or Cross Tech and for and it was a 2702 02:55:48.079 --> 02:55:50.120 port it was for Vita, and it was the last thing in the entire 2703 02:55:50.120 --> 02:55:54.600 part. I mean really it was. And the focus was on the inclusion 2704 02:55:54.680 --> 02:56:00.399 of the character from Infamous. Yeah. Yeah, that was the second biggest 2705 02:56:00.479 --> 02:56:03.000 laugh at the Sony press conference when they showed Cole. Yeah. I think 2706 02:56:03.079 --> 02:56:07.799 partially because it was like way what and then partially because the graphic on screen 2707 02:56:09.440 --> 02:56:13.159 he had this fucking ridiculous look and so did you and it just was like, 2708 02:56:13.280 --> 02:56:15.479 yeah, I mean I wonder, I wonder though if maybe some of 2709 02:56:15.520 --> 02:56:18.719 the reasons for that. I mean there were months of a month of work 2710 02:56:18.840 --> 02:56:20.079 loss because of the earthquake and everything. Yeah, no, I mean I'm 2711 02:56:20.120 --> 02:56:24.360 probably really criticizing. That's an interesting point, and that's that's definitely you know, 2712 02:56:24.440 --> 02:56:26.879 potentially relevant. I just I thought, you know, with you know, 2713 02:56:28.639 --> 02:56:31.520 I really had thought there would be you know, like like Iagaki Double's 2714 02:56:31.520 --> 02:56:35.440 third was not shown. There was just that that weird like we're not showing 2715 02:56:35.479 --> 02:56:39.440 a trailer, you know, like Kajima didn't come to the show. I 2716 02:56:39.520 --> 02:56:43.200 was taking more Rising stuff, given that, you know, last year Rising 2717 02:56:43.319 --> 02:56:45.639 was like all over the place here. Anybody sort of knew going into the 2718 02:56:45.680 --> 02:56:48.000 show that Rising clearly Yeah, well I'm not talking about you know, it's 2719 02:56:48.000 --> 02:56:50.479 true going into the show, we knew. But it's my point is, 2720 02:56:50.520 --> 02:56:56.079 you know, absolutely big name Japanese games, even small names sort of like 2721 02:56:56.479 --> 02:57:01.120 interesting and unusual Japanese games, there were no real surprises, and I guess 2722 02:57:01.200 --> 02:57:05.760 just just reiterated mark Jesus Christ not fucking shooters already, okay, like Jesus 2723 02:57:05.920 --> 02:57:11.920 fucking Christ and with dust. Actually I wish I had not. I should 2724 02:57:13.079 --> 02:57:16.360 talk about CCP more. I mean I think CCP. I mean, let's 2725 02:57:16.399 --> 02:57:18.920 talk about like this real quick, because it's something that I know, I 2726 02:57:18.159 --> 02:57:22.719 I guarantee you in like eight hundred hours of Giant bomb Casting one. I 2727 02:57:22.760 --> 02:57:30.200 actually actually we've talked pretty extensively about really yeah, yeah, gets fascinating, 2728 02:57:30.239 --> 02:57:31.959 like like that company and what they do. And then Okay, I'm wrong 2729 02:57:33.600 --> 02:57:37.799 because I always says it's a game that none of us ever want to play, 2730 02:57:37.920 --> 02:57:39.399 but we are fascinated. But that's exactly my opinion of it. But 2731 02:57:39.440 --> 02:57:43.879 all I want to say is like this is something that like literally no one 2732 02:57:43.079 --> 02:57:50.440 else has really ever done. They're taking eight Universe and expanding it in a 2733 02:57:50.520 --> 02:57:56.360 game. And both the games Dust and Eve hooked directly into the same server 2734 02:57:56.680 --> 02:58:00.079 system, and the things you do in them directly affect each other. And 2735 02:58:00.120 --> 02:58:03.159 if you started, like say a corporation in Dust, that's a corporation that 2736 02:58:03.200 --> 02:58:05.920 exists in Eve interface, and you can like basically it's it's, it's it's 2737 02:58:07.120 --> 02:58:11.680 I really wish that what they showed and looked more interesting because all in concept, 2738 02:58:11.799 --> 02:58:15.000 it's like this is fascinating. It was just another shooter. Yeah, 2739 02:58:15.719 --> 02:58:18.479 but you're like you're the troops on the ground, like doing the bidding of 2740 02:58:18.559 --> 02:58:22.159 the corporation's high above you. That's really interesting. The corporations at high above 2741 02:58:22.159 --> 02:58:24.799 you are actual people, yeah, and they're like doing like actual like you 2742 02:58:24.879 --> 02:58:28.879 know, is a really really fascinating company. So I'm actually glad to hear 2743 02:58:28.879 --> 02:58:31.399 you gave them. So no, we've we've had them in the office when 2744 02:58:31.440 --> 02:58:35.280 we were back in Sacelito. So we yeah, we are. We are 2745 02:58:35.399 --> 02:58:37.520 very interesting. That was one of the most interesting meetings I had, was 2746 02:58:37.559 --> 02:58:43.000 talking to CCP. Yeah. So well, guys, thank you so much 2747 02:58:43.040 --> 02:58:46.760 for helping us a sure closed to to this crazy ass show. Uh. 2748 02:58:48.079 --> 02:58:52.239 That's gonna do it for Giant Bond, for for our our live show here. 2749 02:58:52.959 --> 02:58:56.360 Uh, we're gonna have you know, some more content. Obviously a 2750 02:58:56.399 --> 02:59:00.360 bunch of stuff got shot. That's that's still forthcoming, so uh, you 2751 02:59:00.399 --> 02:59:01.639 know, look for that on the side over the next couple of days and 2752 02:59:01.639 --> 02:59:07.239 I'm sure into next week. But that's it from La So uh again, 2753 02:59:07.239 --> 02:59:09.399 I don't want to thank everyone who showed up here on these couches, uh, 2754 02:59:09.879 --> 02:59:15.000 Mark Shane, David, uh Skip, Peter Christian, you guys, 2755 02:59:15.239 --> 02:59:18.319 everyone else from all the other nights. It's it's been We've been blessed with 2756 02:59:18.440 --> 02:59:22.360 just amazing guests all week long. It's it's been a ton of fun. 2757 02:59:22.840 --> 02:59:28.719 Uh. Special shouts out to Drew Scanlon, Vinny Caravella, and for being 2758 02:59:28.799 --> 02:59:35.000 the goddamn workhorses. I will I will, I will sing, I will 2759 02:59:35.000 --> 02:59:37.959 sing seeing from the top and and yeah, also our tech guys. Alexis 2760 02:59:39.000 --> 02:59:43.399 our designer for our current amazing front door design, which is has been a 2761 02:59:43.559 --> 02:59:46.920 boon for us in all the video stuff we've been doing this week, And 2762 02:59:46.079 --> 02:59:50.680 to Dave Snyder for getting all the tech working on the back end, also 2763 02:59:50.879 --> 02:59:52.239 doing a lot of hardcore design works. So thank you guys so much for 2764 02:59:52.520 --> 02:59:56.680 making all this possible, allowing us to have these dumb ash and anigans and 2765 02:59:56.239 --> 03:00:05.159 three to five hour long podcast indulgent. So with that we say goodnight from 2766 03:00:05.200 --> 03:00:13.680 Los Angeles. Good night bye. That's fun. Wow. Thanks