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This is doctor Wendy Walsh and you're
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Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on demand on
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Doctor Wendy Welsh. If you're new
to my show, just telling the Instagram

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people here. I have a PhD
in clinical psychology. I'm observed with the

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science of love and the segment I
want to talk about now is answering trying

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to answer that on ending question about
why smart women often date bad men,

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men who hurt them, men who
are abusive, emotionally abusive, physically manipulative,

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narcissistic, sociopaths, psychopaths. You
know who these guys are, We've

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all dated them. Well, there's
a reason. There are two reasons.

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Actually. The first reason is that
many of the kinds of people I've described

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actually have very alluring personality traits that
make them very attractive. And secondly,

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many highly intelligent, super smart women
also have certain personality traits that make them

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particularly vulnerable and susceptible to these kinds
of personalities. One of the books I

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looked up on this subject, which
I highly recommend, is called Women Who

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Love Psychopaths Inside the Relationships of Inevitable
Harm with Psychopaths, sociopaths, and Narcissists.

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It's written by Sandra Brown. She's
the founder of the Institute for Relational

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Harm Reduction and Public Pathology Education.
She's a former psychotherapist and she's basically a

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community educator because she realized in her
career that women were becoming victims. They

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didn't know how they got there.
She uses the example that I've used a

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lot, which is when you're in
an abusive relationship. Of course, it

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never presents itself on the first date. It may not even present itself in

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the first few months. It's like
that frog that you boil by putting it

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in warm water and slowly turning up
the temperature. And then after a while,

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women stay for all kinds of reasons. In fact, later in the

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show, after I take your calls, I want to talk about the reasons

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that women stay because it's not just
they're trapped in it's financial, they're psychological

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things that happen to their brain that
make them stay in a bad relationship.

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She really believes. Sandra Brown,
who wrote the book Women Who Love Psychopaths,

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that there are things that women can
learn, the red flags that we

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can see, in order to prevent
us from falling in love with these kinds

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of personalities. I have spent my
career trying to heal myself and tell people

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about this. My first book was
called The Boyfriend Test, How to Evaluate

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his Potential before You Lose your Heart, And it was really a struggle to

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overcome this, to be able to
recognize when somebody might be a dangerous mate,

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at least emotionally dangerous. So let's
talk about some of the personality traits

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that make psychopaths and sociopaths really attractive. One is they showcase success. Now

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it may be fake, but evolutionary
psychologists would say that women are attracted to

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successful men, that if they have
successful careers, if they're making a lot

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of money, that it is very
attractive. So they will showcase this.

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It may be lies. You know, I was talking to a friend on

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the phone the other day. You
know, by the way, any gender,

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this can happen to I happen to
be talking about vulnerable women and dangerous

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men right now. But a friend
of mine called me and he met a

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woman on a dating app and she
very quickly got sexual with him. She

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FaceTime with him, she showed him
some sex toys, et cetera. And

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he's like, she wants to meet
me. Should I go out with her?

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And I'm like, no, you
are being romance scammed. He goes,

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yeah, but she owns her own
condo and she is successful. I'm

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like, how do you know she
told you that right she's trying to trick

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you into getting with her. There's
no way that when you first meet a

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woman that she's going to be performing
so explicitly on the FaceTime unless she wants

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something from you. The other thing
that sociopaths and psycho past two is they

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subtly use operant conditioning. They reward
good behavior. They punish bad behavior by

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not calling, not showing up,
being late, all these little passive aggressive

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things the way they punish bad behavior. But who decides what behavior's good behavior

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or bad behavior? Their own narcissistic
self. So women are trying to figure

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out they're just trying to date this
guy and they're like, well, when

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I do this, I don't hear
from him as much. When I do

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that, I hear from him more
often. So he's slowly shaping her behavior

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and she doesn't realize it because it's
the early stages of dating and she's trying

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to just be attractive. Also,
some psychopaths try to make women feel safer.

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I'll protect you. I once had
a relationship with a guy. It

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turned out to down the road be
a dangerous relationship. However, it was

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years ago. I was on TV. I was hosting a show called Extra,

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and there was some tabloid thing saying
that I was dating O. J.

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Simpson was all lies. So my
neighbor came home. She happens to

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have blonde hair, and all these
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her picture. And she said,
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her. So she called me and
said, don't come home. There are

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all these paparazzi here. So I
called the new guy I was dating,

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and he's like, Okay, here's
what I need you to do. Go

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over to Noah's Bagels, sit in
the parking lot, keep your doors locked,

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keep your windows up. I'm leaving
the office right now. I'm gonna

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be there in twenty minutes. I'm
gonna go over to the house first.

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I'm gonna make sure they're gone before
you come over. I was like,

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I'm falling Sue in love. I'm
falling Sue in love. Yeah, it

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was fake. It was a moment
where he could do a grand gesture to

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pretend that he was a protector,
not someone who would eventually hurt me.

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Often, these psychopaths and sociopaths have
a high sex drive because they know if

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they can get a woman having sex
with them early and regularly, that her

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bodies will admit oxytocin, the bonding
hormone, and she's going to fall in

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love with him, So they will
work that system. The other thing that

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it's not their fault, I mean, they don't consciously do it, but

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it just happens is women who have
had abusive childhoods. When they're doing the

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roller coaster, the honeymoon, the
great thing followed by the awful of fight

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and then the makeup sex and whatever, it's reminding them of the inconsistent relationship

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they had with daddy when they were
kids. So that feels familiar, and

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they start to think that that's love. Also to hear about this online everywhere.

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Narcissist and sociopath love to love bomb
love bomb where they just kill you

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with kindness and gifts and make you
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And there are so many women in
America with low self esteem that they are

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so hungry for this kind of love. They are so hungry for this adulation.

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I mentioned the emotional roller coaster.
Trust me, I've been on many

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of those. The highs are so
high, the lows are so awful,

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the makeup sex is so wonderful.
This is not love. This is not

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love. This is somebody manipulating you, and your brain chemistry starts to change

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in response to it. They also
figure out early what you're looking for and

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become that. Now many women in
their childbearing years have a very natural,

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normal instinct to want to settle down, have a husband, have children.

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If they get any inkling that that's
you. That's what they're going to tell

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you. Oh, yeah, I
finally met the one I can settle down

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with. It to you, I
want to have a whole bunch of babies.

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So they play into this sense of
longing that many women have. What's

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really also interesting is at the beginning
they'd say to strong women, you need

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to be independent. I think it's
so wonderful, your career, whatever.

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But it's all fake because after a
while they start to slow you down,

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they start to control you, they
start to say why are you out so

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much, They start to isolate you
from your friends or family. But at

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the beginning, you're like, he
lets me be me. It's amazing,

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but it's often a trick. Okay, I am going to pause to take

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some phone calls on people's relationship questions. Reminder, I'm not a therapist.

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I'm a psychology professor, but I
love to weigh in on people's love lives.

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I've been through enough life experience that
I'm like an old auntie to you,

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and I'm happy to weigh in.
The phone number is one eight hundred

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five two zero one KFI. That's
one eight hundred five two zero one five

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three four. And after I take
your phone calls and answer some of your

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social media questions, then I want
to talk about vulnerable women whist the smartest

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women often get entangled with these kinds
of men, and what they can do

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about it. You are listening to
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six forty. The number is one
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I am taking your calls. The
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Reminder. I'm not a therapist.
I'm a psychology professor. But I've written

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three books on relationships, and my
dissertation was on attachment theory. So I

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am happy to weigh in on your
relationship. Okay, Producer Kayla, who

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do we have? First? We
have Carolyn with a question. Carolyn.

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Hi, Carolyn, it's doctor Wendy. Hi, go to late. How

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are you good? What's your question? So? I was wondering, if

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you're dating long distance, how long
should you wait to move closer to each

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other and how long should you wait
for intercourse? Well, there's no shoulds.

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First of all. However, long
distance relationships, there's a little issue

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with them. Generally, they work
really well when they're long distance. That's

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how they started, that's how it
was planned. And then the problems start

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when you move into the same city, because then it's a whole new thing.

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Or relationships that start in one city
often have to struggles when they move

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apart, so you have to be
prepared for that. I would say,

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in my own just personal opinion that
nobody should consider moving cities or changing jobs

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until you've been together a year,
because you need to really know this person.

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I mean I talk to people who
say they're in a long distance relationship,

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but they never visit each other.
They're just texting, they're just face timing.

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It's like a pretend relationship, because
you see, the thing about a

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real relationship is real time relationship in
the real world, face to face,

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is that when problems come up,
you've got to deal with it right away.

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But with long distance relationships, you
get the benefit of the time leg

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you can wait and try out later. And then my advice on when to

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begin having sex for the first time
in a new relationship remains the same,

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whether it's a long distance relationship or
in the same city relationship, and that

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is when you trust someone. I
find it fascinating that there are women out

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there who wouldn't give this man the
keys to their apartment to water their plant

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while they're away, Yet they would
share and expose their bloodstream and their eggs

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with him. I mean, think
about it. Think about it that way.

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So how do you trust? You
don't blindly trust? You Watch to

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see how much they sacrifice for you, and whether the sacrifice is that you're

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giving are reciprocal. This is the
important thing, reciprocal. If you are

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doing something nice for them, do
they do something nice back? Are you

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opening up and being vulnerable and honest
and emotional and are they doing the same

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thing now. Sometimes narcissists and psychopaths
do it as sort of a fake thing,

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like they act all victimy, like
all these bad things happen to them

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so you'll feel sorry for them.
That's not the same as having emotional intimacy

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being seen, heard and understood.
And also put some ground rules on it.

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We're going to begin sleeping together.
I'd like to know you don't have

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to be my full time boyfriend.
You don't have to We don't have to

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post it on Instagram, don't have
to make it public. I just want

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you to know that if I am
sleeping with you. I'd like to know

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that I'm the only person you're sleeping
with. Put some ground rules on it,

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and if they can't say yes to
that, then you know it's not

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the time. Carolyne, thank you
so much for calling. I appreciate it.

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Okay, Producer, Kayla, who
do we have next? We have

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Edward with the question. Edward.
Hi, Edward, it's doctor Wendy.

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Hi. How are you doing good? What's your question? I've been in

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a marriage for about ten years now, and uh, and it seems like

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my wife is operating like these men
you're you're talking about. You know,

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she's very uh, abusive, emotionally
abusive, manipulative, abusive, manipulative.

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And and she's twelve years my senior, our sixty and she's seventy two.

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And we were we're actually married,
and and we divorced after three years from

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marriage. And then we were divorced
for a year and we remarried after my

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daughters that went off to college.
And and this is my second marriage,

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second marriage the same person. Yeah, the third marriage, but second to

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the same person. Okay, so
let me get it straight. Edward,

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you've been married ten years, but
this woman that you're married to is twelve

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years older than you. You were
actually married to her already for three years

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and then you divorce, but then
you got back together. Why did you

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divorce so the first time because my
daughters they were another when my daughters were

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in the tenth eleventh grade and my
teenagers in the household. Yeah, totally

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get it. Totally get it.
Okay, Yeah, and it just became

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very difficult, saint, having had
Belinda Famine, my daughter's in the in

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the house when they left off to
college, right, freed you out?

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Yes? Yeah, okay. So
the next question is you say she's being

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manipulative and abusive. Have you brought
this up to her? And how receptive

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is she to understanding the dynamic?
She's none receptive whatsoever. I mean she

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she comes from a background where she
didn't have her father. She is raised

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by an alcoholic mother, and she
just learned she's the oldest of four or

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five siblings and she had to take
care of her. Okay, So,

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Edward, I want to tell you
something. It is not your job to

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be her savior. It is not
your job to take care of her.

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It is emotionally, it is not
your job to heal her. If she

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had a traumatic childhood. It's her
job to go to therapy and heal.

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What does she say when you ask
her to go to couples therapy. We've

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done that, then they've done that. Doesn't work. It doesn't work.

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So are you ready for a divorce? And the thing that complicates with the

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divorce is she's never had any biological
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we first got married, another reason
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fostering kids during the time I was
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raising my daughters the last few years
of high school, and when up fostering

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about a dozen kids over that three
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out of the foster care of business, so to speak, we we end

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up getting back together because I thought
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going on and we didn't have Yeah, I can't imagine starting a new marriage

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and becoming foster parents over the course
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Yeah. Yeah, So but are
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complicates the opportunity for divorce, Well, come gets to them. When we

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got remarried. You know, when
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calmed down, and we were just
it was just us. And she gets

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a phone call from her sister who's
who's schizophrenic or whatever, and her her

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her sister's daughter is having a baby
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And so she has this baby in
jail. And so did you take in

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the your sister in law's baby that
she gave birth to in jail? Yeah?

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Hold, my wife wanted the baby
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is she now? She's now four? And her brother who was a year

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and a half. Oh, she
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And did you adopt them? But
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and we have been legal guardians since
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and a half old. They're now
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like mom and dad. Right,
So you made a commitment to these two

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young humans. I feel like this
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about their upbringing. So what I
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Edward, I highly suggest that if
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you guys as a couple, you
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question you need to solve is how
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and still be divorced so that I
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these kids and be angry and bitter
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end up even taking it out of
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go to therapy and ask that question, how can I maintain my commitment to

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these children but find myself and my
freedom? Thank you so much for calling

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Edward. I'm sorry you're going for
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to take your calls after the break. The number is one eight hundred five

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two zero one five three four.
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Kayla, Who do we have? We

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have Laura with the question. Hi, Laura, It's doctor Wendy. Hi.

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I'm so honored to talk to you. I'm actually an elms T and

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I just felt and loved you many years,

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aren't you sweet? Thank you so
much and thank you for the good

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work that you are doing helping to
heal people. You have a question for

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me? Or do I have a
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have a question. Go ahead,
you have a question. Oh we lost

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Laurai lost alight and she held on
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she's back. Okay, what's your
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or a married about twenty five years. About three years ago, right before

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COVID, I decided to separate from
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he lost the stroke, stopped try
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ages actually two daughters, and so
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But I thought he might have dementia. So I actually got him into

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Kaiser Memory Care and they detected some
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this year, he had a stroke
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I felt like I had to move
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I don't know, doctor Wendy.
Like my dream was to retire in

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San Diego and work from Trivate practice
there and just kind of like live near

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the beach, which I love,
but I also don't. I'm just morally,

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I'm built like I'm super loyal,
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I have friends that are telling me
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him in a home, and my
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my values. And you know how
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show. So yeah, now we're
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Yeah, gotcha. So it's and
how how old are your daughters now?

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Nineteen and twenty three? And are
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hope? Yeah? Oh god,
thank god. What's her opinion of this?

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So his opinion is you have to
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He doesn't really direct me either way, you know. He just says,

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like, you know, you could
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to live, and that's going to
suck all of your money out, or

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if you feel like you want to
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not. But I mean, I'm
only fifty five. I just right,

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you need someone to care for you. When you're caring for someone full time.

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a girlfriend, I would talk to
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to be able to divorce him so
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get government assistance. Right, Okay, so there are some things on paper

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I suspect I don't know, but
that's the first thing I would do is

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talk to a lawyer and talk to
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possible because I understand this is a big,

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giant moral question, but we do
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ourselves, if we deplete ourselves,
if we give to the point where we're

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angry, where we get sick,
where your kids are now taking care of

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you because you've exhausted being the caregiver. Right, So trying to find that

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balance of being able to honor your
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he can get, but at the
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finding another relationship and falling in love
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your mental health. And I think
you should talk to your therapist about how

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you can reframe it that way,
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a hybrid. If it was me, I would say, there's got to

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be a way to create a hybrid. Get him to a facility in near

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San Diego, regular visitation from you, make sure that uh, you know

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he's cared for financially, make sure
you're legally covered. I think there's more

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to this question than just the emotional
moral question. I think there are some

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practical questions that you know, As
I said, lawyers and financial planners can

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help you with. And I would
also bring your daughters in on the conversation

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because they're adults now and they can
also begin to take on some of the

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caregiver burden. Doesn't have to be
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their dad too. And I mean, I don't know about your kids,

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but my daughters are one to UCLA, the other one is going to nursing

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school, and they're like, I'm
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So if you talk to them as
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family plan where my needs are being
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are taken care of, and that
we don't leave dad too much in the

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lurch, involve them in the conversation
of decision making, because if the last

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line you said was interesting, you're
the one who left him. Like in

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other words, your punishment now because
you left our father is that you need

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to take care of him, which
is crazy, right, because he's related

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to all three of you in some
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them than you totally. So that
was a little guilt trip. They tried

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delay and you picked up that bat
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the hook a lot of time.
Yeah, you get the hook because you

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have a lot of empathy. Right. You're you're in the healing profession,

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you're a therapist. And also a
lot of people don't understand that the work

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you do, Laura is mentally taxing. You know, I don't have a

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license to practice. And one of
the reasons why is because when I was

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trying to get my hours, I
was a single mom with a two year

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old and a four year old,
and I would come home emotionally depleted after

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seeing patients all day and then have
to deal with a two year old taking

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a tantrum. It is hard work
when you're an EmPATH, which most people

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in the business are. I know, that they teach you how to have

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good boundaries and how to see your
own therapist and all that stuff, but

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it's still exhausting, it is.
I'm happy that you don't have a license.

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I mean, I think that's to
survive in this business. So good

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for you. Well, I mean
I teach, right, and you don't

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need a license to teach cam Island. Yes, exactly so. And I

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enjoy teaching and educating. Oh aren't
you sweet? That's so nice to hear.

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That's lovely. But I do think
you should spend some time, you

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know, thinking about the practical things
of it. And also if I'm here

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as a friend to do anything for
you, it's to pull you off the

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guilt train. You don't anything at
this point. You as a compassionate person

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and give some degree of care,
but I want you to practice self care.

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That's what I want to see for
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Thanks for calling, Laura, I
really really appreciate it. When we

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came back. Why some really smart
women like me are really susceptible to bad

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guys. You're listening to doctor Wendy
Walsh on demand from kf I am six

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forty. We're in the home stretch
of the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. But

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I want to touch on a very
sensitive, close to my heart topic.

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You know, I've told you I
have a pretty high shame tolerance. When

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people ask me about mistakes I've made
as a human being, usually throw you

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know, it just rolls off my
back. But it's that one that hurts

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the most, and from time to
time people bring it up. When I'm

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talking about some of the damaging relationships
that I've been in the past, the

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hurtful, painful relationships, people will
say, inevitably, but you're so smart.

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How can such a smart woman make
such a dumb choice. I want

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to remind you that the intellectual brain
and the emotional brain are two different things,

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and the emotional brains in charge.
The emotional brain is seeking pleasure,

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except when it seeks love. It's
not seeking pleasure, it's seeking the familiar.

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The familiar is what happened in the
first few years of life, and

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it may involve feelings of loss,
and in my case, there were a

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lot of feelings of loss, and
so as a result, if I met

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someone who triggered those feelings, I
would confuse it with that familiar feeling of

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love. You know, I always
felt stupid that I was in some very

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bad relationships. But I'm here to
tell you if you are like me,

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and you've tried as hard as you
can and make the right choices and still

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found yourself time and time again with
the same kind of people, You're not

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stupid for being in a trauma bond. You're not stupid. We're missing out

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on some of the red flags.
You're not stupid for not knowing what boundaries

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are. You're not stupid for staying
in the relationship. You're not stupid for

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going back again and again. I'll
bet the abuse like happened with me started

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slowly and quietly. In fact,
it was easily forgiven. If you had

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actually said or done anything, they
would have turned and said, you are

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making such a big deal over nothing, you're being so petty, or you're

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being a little crazy. You know, I think I told your story that

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one time, one of the people
who I was in a terrible relationship with

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he on our very first like falling
in love time. We were on a

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business trip of mine, so the
hotel room was paid for by the company

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I was traveling with, but I
put my own credit card for incidentals,

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and when I checked out, I
noticed two shirts from the pro shop on

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the list. But I was so
head over heels I didn't want to go

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marching out to the Valley Parker where
there he was with the bags, going

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what about these shirts? You're gonna
pay me back for the two T shirts?

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It just seems so petty, It
seems so silly. But it was

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a test, a test, and
eventually he stole a lot of money from

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me. So here are some of
the personality traits that actually make you women

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more vulnerable to dangerous men. High
extraversion. Yeah, us extroverts. We

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like excitement, novelty, and we
avoid boredom. And we find psychopaths initially

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initially thrilling. We don't see them
dangerous, we see them exciting. We

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also are attracted to dominance and strength. I used to say I'm looking for

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a man who's stronger than me because
I'm such a strong woman. Or I

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used to say I'm looking for a
benevolent king, right, So women who

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are attracted to a dominant man are
more susceptible to these kinds of guys.

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Also, competitive women, I used
to say, I'm going to prove my

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friends wrong. I am going to
do whatever it takes to fix this relationship.

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I am going to make it work. Also, social sensitivity, people

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with high empathy. Empathy, being
kind and compassionate means that you're easily targeted

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by a psychopath. And guess what
this is often genetic. I read about

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that My mother was highly empathetic.
She was a caring, loving mother,

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and she often underestimated how dangerous people
would be. One time, as a

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kid, coming back going we were
gonna staying in a hotel because we were

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moving, and there was a guy
in the lobby who asked me if I

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wanted to ride in his convertible car. And I ran away and ran to

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her and said, Mom, there's
a guy. Well, you never know.

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He could have been a nice man, and he could have been just

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wanting to give you a nice ride
in that red convertible. Why you always

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think bad about people? Right,
That's how I was raised. Also,

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women who have high attachment, the
ones who fall in love deeply and attach

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closely. Oh, we're suckers for
those social paths who love bomb us.

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Also, you're a kind person and
you have great concern for other people,

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meaning that you would never want to
hurt anybody, including the person who's hurting

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you. In fact, we rationalize
it and we say, oh, they

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had a bad childhood. I'm going
to kill them with kindness. I'm going

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to crush them with love. I'm
going to turn them around and they'll see

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that if I just of them enough
that somehow they will believe in me and

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believe in this relationship and believe in
love. That's what we do. Because

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we're kind. We also tend to
have high morals. High morals, that's

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who psychopaths seek out women who won't
leave because it's immoral to do that.

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Oh, I had a caller like
that recently. All right, if this

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sounds like you, I want to
make sure I put a plug in for

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the National Domestic Violence Hotline. Whether
it's physical violence or emotional violence, you

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need to give them a call.
The number is eight hundred seven ninety nine

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safe. That's eight hundred seven nine
nine seven two three three, Or go

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to the hotline dot org. Or
go see a psychotherapist as I did,

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and get yourself healed. I have
a great relationship now, by the way,

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I love my Julio, and it's
so wonderful to be with a man

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who's not dominant, who just loves
me to death anyway, I'm always here

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every Sunday from seven to nine pm. You can also follow me on my

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social media. I am doctor Wendy
Walsh. Thanks so much for being with

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me on KFI AM six forty.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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You've been listening to doctor Wendy Walsh. You can always hear us live on

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