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everyone, thanks so much for joining us for another livestream episode of Dogman Encounters
Radio. I really appreciate you being here. Tonight's guest was doing something that
a lot of us take for granted, didn't expect to have any thing out
of the ordinary happened. Thought it was just going to be another ordinary night.
But as he found out and his wife did too, that drive that
they took wound up being anything but without any further ado, let's bring tonight's
guest on. Tonight's guest is Patrick from Michigan. Patrick, thanks so much
for joining us. Hey, thank you for having me. Well, it's
great having you here. We appreciate your time. Patrick. Please give us
a brief bio in yourself. I've owned a couple of businesses or the night
that that happened, and that was my wife at the time, and I
owned a couple of stores and I was just you know, regular work night,
and yeah, that's basically it. But I still own a couple of
businesses. I still do a couple of things. So but Jed, I
was just a normal night twenty thirteen. Well it started out being a normal
night, but it wound up being anything but unfortunately. And if you own
more than one business, I know how much work it can take to keep
one business afloat. If you run and own more than one business, do
you still have time to get out and do things that you like to do
or are you a slave to your businesses, which it's all easy to become.
At the time, I was a slave to my businesses because you're always
working. I would wake up in the morning and at the time, one
of my side things to do was breed cane corso massives. So I had
always usually with me a two hundred pound or two hundred and fifty pound massive
with me riding in the car and around, and that's what I was doing
at the time, breeding them. Well, yeah, that's a big one.
A two hundred pounder is like a record breaker. I didn't even know
they got to be two fifty that's just colossal. Well maybe a little bit
less, but yeah, humongous dog, Yeah, humongous. And I had
walked around with four of them, and then you sometimes think, man,
it's like for it's like a lot of weight that you're holding on to.
If they are getting the car at the same time, it can be real
heavy. But that's another slave to the you know, slave to what you're
doing. Oh definitely, yeah. I can only imagine how much food for
Connie Corsos like that would eat. That would definitely you had a house and
home. I mean, that's that's a lot of food right there. Yeah.
Yeah, leftover pizza is very important. At that time in my life,
we would order pizzas and save the crust and you know, and that's
what they lived. They like to get down on as the snack. My
daughters at the time didn't eat crust, so you know, yeah, that
would be rough. I can only imagine your food bill. That must have
been something else. Patrick, you had your encounter while you're making an unusual
delivery with your wife. What were you delivering without telling us any particulars about
the actual encounter, just just some produce and stuff. I was running to
one of my stores and I usually would come. What I'd do is I
go to work and then I would come home for the last hour of my
kids being up, and I come home and I pray with my daughter and
I talked with my other daughter about what happened that day at school, because
you know, you got two running like that, it's a lot of stuff.
And then I would kind of pit stop between like nine and ten every
night at my own house, you know, just to make sure that everything
is in order. And just a regular night, we pit stopped in there.
I had their mom with me and we left the house and it's approximately
one mile two and a half miles of kind of kitty corner two and a
half miles behind my house to the to the east. And so the road
that we were taking I took all the time. I took it in the
morning to school. Hey, Patrick, it sounds like you're telling us about
your encounter already. Yeah, please hold the details of that encounter. We're
going to get into that just a bit. But yeah, not quite yet.
But how did you come into doing that line of work? A lot
of different laws and stuff were passed in two thousand and eight here in Michigan,
which opened up a whole bunch of different business opportunities to people that wanted
to make money. So with them opportunities. I ended up opening a couple
of stores, and well, you you know, sell produce at the stores,
and that was the same thing that went along with that law, so
you know, and I had a couple of shops at that time, so
I'd have to be in and out doing things, you know, staying busy.
Oh I don't doubt that you stayed busy one bit. Sounds like you
were pretty good at doing that. I'm wondering, Patrick, how well does
your wife normally handle frightening experiences. She doesn't like talking about them. She
before, before this happened, you could talk about things like that with her.
After this happened, she didn't want to hear about things like that anymore
because it scared her. So so she just put it out of her mind.
And that's what she would tell me. I got to sleep, so
I can't never think about that. I got to think about something else.
And like even right now, she still lives in that area that that thing
could be around him, so it's you know, that's what she thinks,
you know. So wow, Yeah, I didn't know she still lived in
that area. I sure hope she never does have another encounter with it,
because it sure sounds to me like she didn't handle that first one all that
well. No, not at all, not at all. So it sounds
to me like she had a harder time dealing with that experience than you did.
Yeah, she did it, actually, Oh yeah, she really did.
I didn't realize how much until I had just recently called her and asked
her, do you remember about that night? And yeah. She got into
it with me and told me really what was going on in her head?
And I was like, man, I'm sorry. She's like, I don't
like talking about it because I don't think about it. I just put it
out of my head like it didn't happen. And I'm like, wow,
because I asked her, do you remember this or that? She's like,
I remember exactly what happened, and she said, but it scares me so
much. I have put it out of my mind. It scares me to
even think about that. You know. Well, some people have different ways
of dealing with their experiences like that, traumatic experiences some people try to put
in the back of their mind, which I mean, you can't lie to
yourself, you can't hide anything from yourself. I mean, that's just like
putting a band aid on a gunshot wound. I mean, yeah, it
might make you think you're accomplishing something, but when it boils down to it,
you're not. It's still going to eat at you and bother you.
But however she thinks is her best option for dealing with that experience. I
mean, it's a free country. It's up to her to handle however she
wants to. So, yeah, I can't say anything about that anything more
than I already have. From what I understand, you found out that you're
not the only one who's had an experience with dog men in that area where
you had your encounter. What more can you tell us about that? Yeah?
I looked that up several times dog man before I'd even heard another person
ever say that word to me before, but I had thought about something.
I would go around and I'd ask different people questions about, you know,
things, and one person was telling me, I think something happened in that
town a while ago, in that same area, local that lived right there,
that was there his whole life and love story short. He ended up
saying that I think that thing still could possibly be in that area because that
happened to him. Yeah, it just might be. I'm convinced these guys,
they operated in a huge home range. If they stayed in one spot
too long, then it'd be all too easy for them to deplete the resources
in that area almost overnight basically. But yeah, I think they operated in
a huge home range the same way a large predator like a mountain lion wood
or a grizzly wood, for example, so that they're always moving in that
way the resources where they were the night before, and however amount of time
before those resources have a chance to replenish, and that way they can circle
back into that area and it's good as new by the time they get back.
So yeah, that's why I think they do that well. Without any
further ado, Patrick, I want you to tell us about your encounter now.
Please be as descriptive as you possibly can. Okay, again, we
were just driving a regular normal night in the country and left the house,
went down a mile, turn left, went down another mile and a half,
and we were doing sixty miles per hour. I just bought BMW the
year before that, and it was a new car for us. Anyways,
and this thing, we're doing six and this thing's latched on, hit the
side of the BMW and the quarter panel and latched onto the hood of the
car with one hand over one side and one hand all the way over the
other side, like holding onto the where the wheelwll live with their hands,
so holding the wheel well also holding the hood, and we slammed on the
brakes, and almost before we stopped, I had already had my gun,
because I carried a gun. Doing deliveries in some areas of Michigan can be
very dangerous. So love story short, I had a block forty on me
and as soon as that happened, as soon as I seen it, it
hit the car and then looked in my eyes. And as it's looking in
my eyes, as it's looking in my eyes, it's looking at me like
like it's pissed, Like I'm pissed that you just got in my way,
and like almost just looking at me like that snarling kind of And by the
time we stopped, she had went halfway stopped, and then she tried to
stop it real fast to make that thing like, oh, I don't know,
you just stopped the car real fast, and long story short, it
hopped up and on the field that it was coming out of it was a
corn field, and the corn hadn't been cut the corn was long on the
field that it was going through. The corn was low already cut like the
week before or something. So as it's running it, you might have thought
it was going through that corn field. So it might have been out fulls
is what I'm thinking. It is just running full speed and hit my car,
grabbed it and with so much power though it grabbed it like like just
like it ain't nothing like a cat plays with the toy. It jumped up
on the my car after hitting like that, looked at me. Mean.
When we stopped the car, I had my block forty cocked and as soon
as we stopped the car, I started trying to open the door. And
as soon as I opened the door, this thing hopped onto the giver's side,
ran around the back of the car, and as I had my gun
up, it ran to three and a half leaps and it was back into
the cornfield that it had just ran out of in three and a half leaps
one two, three that fast, I mean, it was just incredible.
And when I started to aim up at it it I was baffled that it
was on two legs running and then the size of its arms were hanging down
to its knees. When it was on the hood of the car, it
looked like it was grabbing the wheel well and the thing and holding its body
and pushing it up closer to the car kind of sorta. And this is
just weird, just like in full control. And then when we stopped,
it just took off like I'd never seen anything like that. And I aimed
at it and it popped right back into the woods or the corn right there,
and it went about four rows back or five rows back, and then
it just stopped and didn't move it all. And I was out of the
car and on yelling, come on, boy, come on, and it
whenn't moved. It was in there, and she started screaming, you are
nuts. Closed the door. I'm leaving you. And I was like,
oh man, She's like, carry, I don't want the door. Get
in here, get in here. And so I just stood out there for
a second and then she started screaming scared, and so I left the car
door open. I should have probably closed the car door as I was getting
out, but it happened so fascined, I didn't have the time to do
all that. Long story short, I ended up just getting back into the
car and we just went about our day. I thought that it had damaged
the front end of my car. As I looked on it the following day,
you could see that something grabbed it, but it didn't bust anything.
You could see it in the dirt on there when you grab it, what
car wasn't all the way clean, And when you grab it, you'll see
the dirt mark where the hand was. And I could see the dirt mark
where the hand was right on there, and I thought, man, that's
a big animal, you know, that's the biggest thing I had ever seen.
Its eyes were red and like yellow, reddish yellow, like a mixture,
almost craziest stuff I ever seen. And its eyes did look kind of
glowing, yeah, like kind of glowing for sure. And it was eight
foot tall every bit of four hundred pounds. It had a big head.
There's a couple there's a picture of a trail cam and somebody got of this
animal. It looks like the exact same animal because it looks clownish, it's
so big, it's so poofy, and it's just a massive, massive alpha
predator straight out. I couldn't even believe it if you. If I would
have known, there were things like that out there because so many times I
had drove that area and never had no gun. Ninety percent of the time
I didn't carry no gun in the car, And that night I just had
a feeling and I was like, man, long story short, that thing
is way beyond what anybody would actually until you see it, until you really
understand, and it's just like super fearful. This thing is no joke.
It's heads as big as a horse. I mean, its eyes were like
probably six cents just five inches difference. And there that's a huge animal.
And it's I think it had two different just like a horse or kind of
like Pathway horse, Hathway dog, and then man, because it's standing up
and it's kind of it's got an intelligent look to it. So when you
see it's it's an intelligent animal. And for it to do what it did,
it knew that it had to have known. I moved quick when that
that thing was on the car to get my gun real fast. And as
soon as the car stopped, it was on and that thing went so fast
and it was so I'm looking. I was lying. I could have shot
a body shot, but a body shot was what I was looking for.
I was looking. I was thinking, if that thing steps around, it
comes even stops, or I can get a shot at its eyes. That's
what you want to shoot, is his eyes, because everything else man that
his bones are probably so strong it just ricocheted off. You could shoot an
animal like that and just hit bones a couple of good times before you actually
hit anything to kill it. And you wouldn't take chances with my life unless
I'm if I'm gonna do you know, a headshot, and it's got it's
got a big enough head where you can hit it. I mean it's a
big head. You can hit that head. It's big. But again,
the almost cartoon ish nightmares, for damn sure looked like h like a cartoon
running into the corner and diving in and just sitting in there listening to you.
And I was like just thinking to myself, I mean it was only
granted the minator so I was outside of the car, but uh yeah,
immediate lee, I started walking back. I put a distance between probably a
half a car distance from the back of my bumper. I walked at it,
so I walked a fire away from the door where she didn't want the
door open. She was scared that she don't want the car door, I'll
either get in or close the door. I'm gonna close it on you.
And I can understand that. But if she would have left, then then
it would have got then it would have gotten good. But you know then
they just carry you off and you just become up missing. Well, she
might have said something to the police, but who would Who would listen to
you if something happened to you in a situation like that, I mean,
that's automatic. Man. You probably you know who knows you go to jail
prison, say you did something when you're just with somebody that something happened to
and they just vanished and the story ain't good enough. I mean I couldn't
even describe a good enough story for that. There's no way to describe it.
It's just unreal. And even if he was to see something like that
standing in the shade or somewhere like that, that's a huge animal to see
your eyes, you wouldn't believe it even if I seen it again. I
mean I watched trail cams from all the people. I watch as much a
trail cans videos as I can, and pictures that they got off trail cam
videos, and the one picture from around either Williamston, Michigan to Perry,
Michigan. That thing is in there right there in that area. But definitely
they run on the side of the highway, like you know, a lot
of traffic goes through there just because of that reason, and them are dangerous
areas because the highway is a way for somebody to animals to move through there.
You know. Well, I can only imagine the thoughts that must have
been going through your head when all that was playing out. I'm wondering though,
Patrick, was it laying entirely on the hood with his legs for holded
up underneath it, or was it laying also partially on the windshield, maybe
even onto the roof as well. Actually moved kind of a little bit up.
It moved its butt up. It looked like to me like it was
like a two foot three foot from the from the window. So yeah,
it had it was all the way on the car, and it all the
way hit the car and it had its butt up kind of. And when
we hit the brakes, it was already moving off. It was already moving
off the car. It it grabs like the wheelwlls and like got like both
sides one hand on one side, one hand on another, and it was
just looking at me. And I mean it looked at me that whole time
from when it hit and then it looked in the window and just looked at
me like huh, like I could kill you right now, watch this.
And I was preaching and trying to get that thing I and my eyes were
on the whole time. I didn't even didn't even look towards where I was
getting the gun from. I just looked at that thing the whole time.
And I just grabbed that gun automatic because I was that I was, it
was that's a dangerous situation. That that situation could have gone really really bad,
and that animal had the strength to reach in there and bust my window
or bust her window, just bust that front window altogether and get in the
car. I mean, that's how tough that thing looks like. It's it's
just like half of a brick. I mean, it's a bit of brick.
Hand. That's a cuemongous hand. That thing hitting that windshield that was
knocking in. You know, there would would be nothing, you know,
you couldn't keep things. You know, it breaks through them. It's why
just the most unreal situation ever been. And yeah, it was all the
way on the car. You could feel it hit the car and move,
and it was heavy and it put weight on the hood of the car and
you could instantly fell eight hundred pounds on the hood of that car. Oh,
I'm sure you could feel it. Was that stretch of road super straight
or were there curves in it where you were at at that point on the
car? No, on the road itself. Did that road curve in that
area where you were at or was it bone straight? That road was It
was probably a three three hundred yards away from the Highway ninety six and Williamston
on Deeps Road. They only have one they have two bridges in that area,
and that's one of the bridges right there connect connects Stockbridge and Dansville,
Williamston and then Perry. It was that close to the highway where you're at
that point, But that still doesn't preclude the chance there might have been curves
in the road at the same time. Was it super straight or were there
any curves at that point? There were no curves right there. I took
a right hand turn a mile and a half behind me before I turned on
that that's a fifty five and up back road right there, and usually people
who do sixty miles per hour on it. We were doing sixty. It's
ten thirty at night, and yeah that no, we're going in the straight
line. And we stopped it within probably probably thirty yards twenty yards thirty yards.
That thing was on the hood of the car. Wow, that's rough.
What worries me is if you're doing sixty when it hopped onto the hood
as big as it was, if it was an eight foot tall dog,
man, did it block all of your view of the road or were you
still are to see the road? Man? No? Oh, all you
could see is this thing on top of the windshield. Looked like his face
is about to come in and start breathing on you. I mean he was
right up on the windshield. Man. Definitely two definitely less than two feet
from the windshield he was at I mean literally he could have just reached with
the hand and went right through the windshield. Literally, I seen that thing
with it like three to four foot from my head was his head My eyes
locked his eyes, and that it was horrifying. You know, if I
did it wasn't earned that night, I would have had a different thing about
it, you know, but even you couldn't that thing if you tried to
hit it with your car and others certain you would never be able to.
That thing got hit by a car but didn't get hit, almost like it
wanted to jump on and see if it could do that going across. I
think I startled it when it was going, but it then it PHAs that
thing. That thing held on I mean, how could you hold onto a
car going that fast unless you put your weight on it like that. I'm
incredible, just incredible moves from this animal. And I could just imagine being
outside how fast I mean you got you have to be pointed at him right
as soon as you get up and out of there. Man, and that
that thing came back, I don't know you did be it'd be a fifty
to fifty maybe less chance for you with the gun. Yeah, the odds
for your well being wouldn't be very high, that's for sure. And you
just mentioned the gun. You pulled out a block forty to try and deal
with any foot tall dog me in that ahead the size of a horse.
How sure were you or weren't you in that gun's ability to protect you from
it? I was. I was completely completely trusted that gun at that moment.
I wouldn't have had that gun. I wouldn't have got out of that
car, or would have just kept going. There's no way I would stop.
But because we stopped, I just I started screaming, stopped the car,
stop the car, and I just went into my own mode. And
I thought that I had shot a lot with that block forty So I was
right on for twenty five yards. I was real good shot. But I
was planning that that thing came back, or was eveuld come back at me.
I would have to hit it right in the head right now, eyeballs,
is my thought at that time. Well, yeah, if you do
shoot at it, then you definitely need to be a good shot for your
own safety. If there is such a thing a safety when it comes to
shooting and a dog man, which, yeah, that's up in the air.
But yeah, that's a whole nother show right there. One of the
other reasons that I did that is because do you know what a dog man
body would be worth? I mean, if you think about it, it
could be possibly worth millions of dollars. I've never even seen it. I
thought it looked like a cartoon like a state fair fake toy type thing,
man, not not anything from a distance. And then when you got up
on it, you see, when it's right in your face, you don't
even see its body or anything. You just looking at space and its arms
in the whole front window of the car, I mean about to come through
the front window of the car. And when that happened, it happened so
fast, and I thought, that look like a million dollars to me,
And I mean, I don't now I'm realizing that you could get in trouble
for shooting one of them, But I'm gonna be honest with you that that
thing's so crazy that it needs to be shot. Something that looks that intimidating,
I guess. I guess I was worried about my family and my own
dogs that I had in that area. And then that's an alpha press and
it's in that area, then it needs to be took down because that puts
every and anybody in definite, big jeopardy of something happening bad to them if
it's in your area. Yeah, it's definitely not a good thing to have
a dog, mean hanging around, no doubt about that. What about the
hood. If it was that big, that heavy, what kind of damage
did the hood of the car suffer? You know, it suffered no damage
that you could it suffered. You could just see the handmarks on the car.
The car had like dust over it. That car new BMW. That
car was clean almost all the time at that time. It did have a
dust cover on it. And you could see where it grabbed the wheelwells and
the and the hood and the whole hood. You could see the markings of
it. It was all over the car and almost wiped it clean. I
mean, he was all on the hood. And then when I actually looked
at it, there was nothing wrong with it. And that's the first thing
that I thought, that, man, this thing just smashed out the hood
in my car. I'm gonna kill it. And then number two, it
looks like it's worth a million dollars. But I didn't think about none of
that when it happened. I was in total, complete, like fear.
But if you got fear against something, that thing literally was like a mile
and a half from my house. I walked my dogs outside a few times
and for them to just kind of wind a little bit that they don't want
to be out here. I'd rather go inside. I don't want to be
out here, and you could tell that something was wrong, and at them
times that's what I think. That thing. We had some chickens, and
the chickens were like eight and a couple of bytes. One of them were
the other one we never found, but we had a couple of things come
up around our house outside. Animals took them away and killed Well, that's
how they operate. When you think about their daily clorkvironments, it's no surprise
that they would do things like that at least from time to time. And
talking about the fact that your car never suffered any damage, it's really hard
to wrap your mind around. But there have been quite a few credible eyewitnesses
I've spoken with over the years who were just driving down the road and unfortunately
a dog man jumped out in front of the car, walked out in front
of the car, and they hit that dog man head on at speed.
Well, when they eventually checked the car for damage, they didn't see any
damage, even though it was a really big hit. So you know,
there are people who point towards idea that these guys have supernatural characteristics. Some
might maybe others don't, but when you look at what happened to your car,
it sure does make you wonder. Yeah, it'd be more though the
density of their bones, that's what they've been finding. Your density is bigger.
Yeah, but a big animal like that. Definitely, that put a
hit on my car where I again, I thought it smashed my front end
of my car. And that's half the reason that I even got out of
the car and reacted like that, because that was my new car. I
was still paying payments on it. It's like one year old. I got
five years worth of payments on this thing, and I'm like, oh my
god, and it happened, you know. I mean, but yeah,
I probably shouldn't did that, but I did it anyways, and if I
had to do it again, I probably do it again because them things are
dangerous. I mean maybe not. I don't know. It never hurt me.
I thought it hurt my car. But yeah, for the more that
I hear anything that you see like that, though, in this world,
you're going to react like that. You're going to react like this like it's
an alpha. It's not like that's like somebody coming to your party and having
an ak on one end and you know what I'm saying, am I r
on the back and a couple of guns on them? You'd be like,
what the hell are you doing? Yeah, you would be looking at that
dog. That dog is. If you see that anywhere, it's You're just
it's gonna be so frightening, it's horrifying. So think about and to look
at what that thing is. And I watched it run away, and I
mean it was fast, it was agile, it was big, it was
super big, and anything like that man is definitely a threat. As a
man, you're gonna be threatened. I mean that. Yeah, Like unreal
to think that you would not hear about these things as I was growing up.
Well, you've heard about the Michigan dog Man. That's what you encountered.
Unfortunately. Let's get to the listener questions now, Patrick. The first
one up is from a really nice lady named Joyce Stone, and her question,
Hey, Joyce, her question is you said to look at you in
the eyes, did a mind speak any words into your thoughts? It looked
into my eyes and it felt like it was telling me like I was a
problem to that thing. And then't the thought came into my head. And
that's another reason why I reacted like that is that you ain't nothing to me.
You just pissed me off. And it looked at me like mad like
that, rather than like if you got hit by a car, you'd be
looking at like hey stop, you know hey, uh sorry. I ran
into knowing the thing wasn't sorry at all. It was pissed off and like
menacing looking. Oh, I'm sure it was. And it looks like Michigan
medi Eater missed a part where you told us where this encounter happened. Can
you touch on that again for him? Yeah, it's in Williamston, Michigan,
one mile west of Well. Actually it's a right where the overpass is
going across the ninety six highway in Williamston, Michigan, right before the bridge,
right there on the south side of that bridge. And that was probably
three four hundred yards before the bridge. So there's a few hundred three four
hundred yards before the bridge that happened maybe less, I'm not sure. Right
in that last quarter mile before the bridge, I wouldn't be surprised if people
flocked to that area now trying to seek out through and dogged encounters. I
was driving north and if you look right now, I was driving north at
that time, and if you look right now, driving north in that spot
where it was at, everything got tornado damaged in that whole thick brush area
back there. So somebody, you know, maybe that's the way the government
does of something they're living in somewhere like that, they have a tornado hit
it, and I mean it just knocked out all of the trees and everything
in that area. But what's funny is it only accidentally, I guess,
hit a couple of houses by accident, hardly no damage to anything else except
for the area that thing was in. I had thought about that too that
you know, maybe they're trying to get rid of that problem. Or with
all them trees down now, I mean, that's even more menacing because there's
more places to hide in there. Yeah, tons of places. That sounds
like I've got another one up for you from me in consall. And AND's
question is, Patrick, did you smell anything? Uh? You know,
at the time, I didn't. I didn't even notice. And we had
the windows up, both of the windows. Uh you know, I think
I had my window cracked a little bit, But no, I didn't smell
anything overwhelming. I didn't smell anything overwhelming. I haven't asked her. No,
I didn't smell anything. It happened so fast. It was just you
would think you would smell something like that, but it happened so fast.
It happened so fast, But I bet it seemed like it took an eternity.
Yeah, it felt like forever, because when that's happening to you,
each second going by, your mind is just racing at that second. What
the hell am I going to do? You know? And the first thing
is, there's my guns right here, you know what I'm saying. And
that's the first thing that I've thought about. But yeah, if anything that
would have happened to the car or anything that could have been all it could
have just reached in and ripped your neck off. I mean, it's that
big and power full of an animal. I've never seen anything that big outside
of a zoo. Yeah. Probably won't see anything like that again in your
life either. I hope you don't, but I guess time will tell on
that. You never know. The next question up, that's right. The
next question up is from Colonel Chappie, and Colonel's question is did he have
fingers versus pause from Indiana Fingers and the fingers where I had his hands were
real hairy. The outside of his hands were hairy, And yeah it was.
It was humongous hand though, maybe three four times bigger than my own
hand, big enough where you could just hold the basketball in each chance.
Yeah, like I told you in the first conversation we had big ones can
have hands the size of a trash candle lid when they open up their hands
all the way. So yeah, they can have huge hands, they really
can. But when you look at them hands from the side view man,
it looks like them hands are like two foot long just on the side view.
Well, depending on how big the dog man is, they can be
that big. I've got another questquestion forty. It is from Glenn Glenn Kamada.
You already answered this one. Glenn wanted to know how tall the dog
man was and Glenn, he said it was about eight feet when it stood
up upright. And then the next question is also partially been answered. Michigan
media wants to know if you noticed any damage here or blood left on the
car? No damage, but did you ever find any blood or here?
Uh? You know what I did it There was nothing on that car.
And every time that I've had things happen hitting animals, deer. I'll hit
a few deer, you'll get a little bit of hair. But there was
nothing on that car. You could see where it kind of grabbed the wheel
well and the hood at the same time. On each side. There's markings
right there, and there's markings of the body up to the half what pasted
the hood all the way up to the other side of the hood. So
right at the edge of the hood is where his body stopped. And then
his head. He pulled his head back. It was just and had his
arms and kind of like like lifted itself up like at the same time as
we're stopping, lifted itself up like again, like I said, and pulling
his back legs because we were It took about maybe ten twenty yards man to
stop. It took a minute. She hit the brakes halfway and I looked
at me and I go, she was watching me what I was doing,
And I told you what I was doing. So yeah, yes, he
did. He sure did. When you say that I left markings on the
car, on the hood and other places, what kind of markings did it
leave? The dust was gone and them places, all the dust was gone
because I looked at that car. We drove probably half a mile or a
mile away from there and pulled the car over, and I looked at it
with the flashlight and all you could see is the it was dust on there
and you can see that it got white DOFs all the dust and shits like
white doss, you know, And the rest of the car has a dust
layer on it. So you could like see a big ass white clean mark
on the top of the hood. Language Oh yeah, on the top of
the hood. That's exactly what you see. Well, I'll bet, I'll
bet. I've got another question up for you from Ian Console and then's question
is did it have a tail? Yes, it did have a tail,
and a big tail, and that was something else that Yeah, it looked
like h like a lion tail or something. But it had hair on it,
and it had thick hair on it. It was like again like like
a really fluffy, uh dog man hair thick and like like thick, probably
about two inches thick. There was nowhere separate space that did not have two
inches of hair on it in its hands. Yeah, that's pretty hearing.
I've got another question for you from Anne Conseil and she wants to know was
it a boy or a girl. I could not tell you that. I
didn't get a chance to see it. To me, it looked like a
boy. I've had male and female dogs, and again, cane corsos are
big dogs. Cane corso massive they they can get humongous. And I had
an Olympic bloodline cane corsos, and they're small compared to that animal. That's
the whole next level up, even beyond like a you would go one of
them super wolves. And then that thing didn't mean that's a regular a wolf.
A big full sized wolf are humongous animals. But this thing's double well
that size, I mean humongous, eight feet tall standing up on his back
legs. I guess it was twice that size. That's pretty big. Glenn
Kamada has the next one up. He wants to know. Was there a
snap, crackling or popping noise when it stood up? No noise, I
couldn't. I don't know if we had the radio up or what. No
no noise, no, just the baming sound. And then it kind of
made a breathing noise when it was gone. I heard it breathe. It
was breathing heavy went on when it got off of the car. As soon
as my ears got out of the car, I could hear that thing breathing
heavy, and it was super fast. But I didn't hear no cracks or
nothing. I bet it was breathing heavy. If it caught up to your
car when your car was doing sixty, you know, I bet he was
working to do that. This next question up is from Caitlyn McLoud and her
question is how has the sighting affected you? Again, I has changed the
way that I do things where I go because I don't now I don't like
driving through country the country and places. Before I could, I could drive
across half of the state and I hit a main road, just get the
back you know, US highways, and go. Now I am afraid to
go long distances because, by any coincidence, if you're not earned you know,
I keep one in the trunk of the car. And if you're not,
and even at that with what happened, if that happened right now,
I would I would drive away. If my car was my gun was locked
in the trunk of the car, I have to keep on going. I
mean, it's a dangerous animal and it's unreal, unreal, dangerous, just
menacing like but a lot of people hasn't done anything too, but just imagine
the ones that it has. Yeah, the potential is definitely there to do
a lot of damage. The next one up is from Anne Console and she
wants to know if other cars were around. No, no other cars were
around. We were the only one that I on that road. We stopped
and everything there was no no cars were at that time. I was like
ten thirty at night on like a Tuesday night or something, a slow night
is when that was. And the moon was it was almost a full moon,
I believe, and the other side of the field was low. So
if it would have went into that field, I could have popped some shots
off and then hopped back into the car and scramble from an other clip that
I probably wouldn't find. But at the time, you know, yeah,
that's scary animal. He probably wouldn't have had an easy time finding it.
You probably have a hard time finding your butt with both hands, considering how
rattled you must have been, So that's understandable. That is. This next
one up is from Millie Felita Worse and her question is how is everyday life
after your dog meeting encounter. Hope all is well, everyday life is okay.
But again I educate. Now. I got two daughters. One of
my daughters has three kids right now. You know they're younger though, and
she's twenty five. Live story short. Now, I really explain to them
about not being leaving, and there is things out there which I would never
try to give a nightmare to a little kid. And that's like almost like
giving them a nightmare telling them, you know, there is monsters out here
like this, this is a real thing, and that's why you shouldn't go
outside at night. You should stay in the house. You should be careful.
We'll make sure the doors are locked, all of them things. I
went right as soon as that happened. First thing I did was make sure
everything was locked everywhere at my place because I've lived a mile and a half
away, and that was at that time, was at the top of my
conscience the whole time, the rest of the time that I lived in that
house. You live close, then, yeah, I lived a mile and
a half from there. Yeah, that's way too close for comfort. That's
just a hop skipping to jump for a dog mean, no pun intended.
I've got another question for you from No More fun Land, and their question
is have you had any other pureanormal experiences before the dogman encounter? You know,
I've never had a crypto encounter in my whole life paranormal. One of
my friend's house was haunted. I spent the night there one night on a
Saturday night, and the rocket chair started rocking. That's about all the stuff
that's ever happened to me before that. I never had thought about cryptids.
I never thought about other things out around you besides people that are dangerous enough.
But wow, anything like that I never thought about. It makes you
really change everything of what you're kind of doing in a lot of sense.
Yes, it does. There is life before it dogged me in encounter,
in life after I get it. This next one up is from Jared the
American, and he wants to know did you think it was evil and intended
harm? I think that it could be evil. I don't think that it
is evil and that man anything walking around like that man's got to intend harm.
Now, whether that harm is to you or one of your four legged
loved ones, that thing in that area, I mean, that's unreal.
I mean it would be like capturing Bigfoot. If you caught the dog man
and displayed him, you know what I'm saying, had a real one,
that is, that would be the big time right there, that's that,
but I mean it's that crazy life changing. Yes, it would be.
That's a good way to sum it up. This next one up would be
from Andres Carazalees, and this question is are there any power lines or rivers
near where you were? Some animals use them as landmarkers to other places.
Nope, just the regular line going by right there. I guess that would
be. That would be close to the pipeline. I guess that would be
maybe a mile and a half something like that. Evil the other way to
the pipeline. Here in Michigan, we had a couple of oil pipelines that
ran from up north all the way down and that would be within like a
mile or two of that. Yeah, pretty close to it. Then it
sounds like must have been. This next question up would be from Elaine Isabelle,
and Elaine's question is did you take pics of the prints on the car?
You know what? The next day in the morning, I was gonna
do that, but I took like two of them, and you couldn't really
see. You couldn't really get a good The car wasn't that dirt. It
was dirty enough, but it wasn't that dirty. Again. She always keeps
that car clean, but we drive it in the country, so it's washed.
It wasn't washed that that night, and you could still see the difference
in the But yeah, when I took a picture of what you couldn't see
it. Yeah, I'm surprised you remember to take a picture of the hood.
You're doing good to know your own name, so you deserve credit for
that. The next one up is from Michigan meat Eater, and he wants
to know, in your opinion, why did something so big, fast and
smart even jump on your head in the first place. I believe that it
was running parallel to the highway at like thirty five or forty miles per hour,
and by the time that that thing crossed that area it hit my car,
it was just doing thirty five miles. It's just like a regular car
accident. I think it just ran into my car. I mean, that
thing was moving fast and it covered a lot of ground. In my mind
at that night, it covered a lot of ground. It was a good
ten yards that it covered right there about twenty yards around ten yards ten yards.
It covered like eight of them, man, and like just like three
steps, like I was talking three jumps. That thing was gone three three
jumps. Just imagine if you're running and one two three. I mean,
it's not that much time. And being at night too, that I never
you know, you think about it if that would have happened during the day,
what why would that even have How could that even happen? But again
I was thinking he was already moving fast because when he hit our car,
he was scooping. It wasn't like he ran up on the side of us
and grabbed the hood. He hit the car from where we're driving. It
ran into the front of the car and then had a chance when it when
we hit it, when it actually hit us or jumped on the car,
whatever you want to call it. It grabbed on and rode it and looked
at me and was like you ain't shit, oops are You're not nothing?
And yeah, I was just like, you got all my guys, and
it's crussed the hood in my car. I'm thinking, I mean, I
just felt it hit the front of the car so hard that you had to
do something. Yeah, understandably, so that much weight hitting the car,
you would expect to have a huge dent. But I don't know. Like
I said, sometimes people hit these guys on the highway in the car doesn't
suffer any damage. So it's really hard to explain. But that's not unprecedented.
It looks like Beverly Jagger has next question up and her question is,
or Jagger, do you have any nightmares after your encounter? Yeah? I
would right after the encounter, being at that house out in the country,
Uh what I would. Yeah. I haven't been able to really sleep right
since that. I mean, that's something you know, you don't think about,
but really that that's happened with me, I don't know. I don't
sleep all the way through the night. I wake up in the middle of
the night. Uh. I gotta have something around me when I'm sleeping,
just in case anything happens, because that worries me. I mean that I
won't lay my head down and close my eyes without knowing that I'm safe,
And especially in that house at that time. My daughter would I told her
about it. Her mind. They would close all the windows in the window
shades to the house, and I like them open during the daytime. And
I mean, we lived so far in the country, nobody's gonna walk by
and look into my windows were, you know, off of the road,
and they would close the windows all the time and close the shades all the
time. And it really got on my nerves sometimes. But I could see
their point of view. But man, I didn't that really. I never
that did bothered me. What bothered me is when I'm sleeping is when I
bothered me. My dogs would wake up every now and then and they would
start barking, and you think, man, there's that thing back there,
you know, you look around. It's something that at the time I lost
a lot of sleep over. Well, yeah, that's part for the course
when you have an encounters one of these things. So it's understandable do something.
Diff has a question for you. They want to know what size and
make of car was it? He said it was a BMW, But what
model? Did you say? It? Once? It was a two thousand
and six BMW five thirty XI Winter Edition, Michigan Winter Edition, No Michigan
But's Winter Edition. And it drove like a snowmobile on the snow. That
car was wild and the snow beautiful. Agile but it's a bigger car.
It's not a small BMW. It's the mid size and all wheel drive,
great running car, but large. Story short, it's a bigger car.
So that's why I think it took a good hit. Plus that's a really
solid car too, to you know, tad six coats of clear cold on
it. You know it was a really pretty car. Well, I bet
it was. Yeah, I don't tell that. Michigan mediator wants to know.
Did you ever go back and look for tracks or anything in the daylight?
No. What I find myself doing is what I do now is I'll
drive through there in the car or whatever, and I'll drive through there and
look, I'll drive my motorcycle through there, which is kind of you think
I would never do that either, But that worries me a lot, but
it's fun. I think it's a fun you know, healer for me to
be able to go through there and not worry about that like that. I
do. I drive my bike through there now during the daytime. I don't
think i'd do that at night, for sure, I wouldn't at night,
but during the daytime I'll drive through there. Well, if you're doing all
those things and it sounds like you're dealing with it pretty well. That's a
good thing. That's great. Be Kind wants to know prior to the encounter,
talking about earlier in the day, did you have any odd feelings earlier
in the day, You know, I didn't. I had just got done
letting the dogs out to go to the bathroom. I had just walked around
in the field, you know. I prayed with my daughter and we bounced,
you know, finish the night off, riding around, doing the rest
of the stuff we had to do. And No, I didn't feel anything
during before that. It was like a perfectly normal day. Well, sometimes
I witnesses feel something before they have an encounter, sometimes they don't, So
there really is no rhyme nor reason. Nope. The next one up is
from Elaine Isabelle, and Elaine wants to know if this happened in twenty twelve,
why are you now just coming out with your encounter. See, this
is the weird thing. I never told anybody about that, or besides the
my my ex wife, I never had really told. I told my mom
about it, I told one of my sisters about it, and that was
about it. Because it's what would you say if your friend said that he's
seen, you know, a dog man. They'd be like what. I
never had even heard of anything like that, never was interested in nothing like
that. That when it went on my radar, when that happened to me.
After that, I investigated that thing and I started learning about it,
which made me start to understand. You know that that area in eighteen ninety
or something in that area, on that same type of spot right there next
when they're putting that highway and all that stuff. Before all of that stuff,
it was just like a two way road right there. But that has
been the ain't route for from Detroit to Grand Rapids and Lancing. Guy that
one road and it takes you all the way, you know, across the
state. I'll bet you more people than you'd believe if that encounters with that
guy. I'll bet you they have, they just haven't told you. This
next one up is from Robert Spencer, and Robert wants to know is there
a water source and are there caves nearby? There? There is a there
is a water source out there that. Yeah, there is a water source
out there. There's a there's a few little water sources out there, and
uh, are there caves? Nearby. You know what, I just started
learning about caves myself as I'm starting to investigate this. Uh, caves are
something that's a very you know that that could be a definite possibility. Yeah,
they do seem to like caves, so that's a good question. It
is then, of course moving water that's a requirement for them as well.
This next one up is from Marnie Clifford, and Marnie wants to know did
you move to a different house because of your encounter? Oh? Yeah,
we did, yeh, yeh. Because of that encounter. My wife at
the time never took that road again. She never wanted to go back down
that road again. She went to another another way. And yeah, my
daughters didn't like that because they knew what I was telling them too. They
would listen and like she had told them about it. She didn't talk to
anybody else, but I believe she told me, at least my youngest daughter.
She told because if we don't want them walking around, you know,
out there, that's what that would be. That's one of the main ways.
There's only three bridges in that area, so it'd be one of the
three bridges roads that you beyond to cross the bridge. You know, so
a lot of cars drive down and through there, not a lot, but
you know, sizeable compared to other roads. Sure sounds to me like that
encounter really shut your wife down. That's too bad. I've got another is
actually a comment from Joyce Stone, and she wants to make sure that you
understand. Wanted to put this message out to you since it was so close
to where you live. Play pay close attention to any strange encounters like the
hero is standing up on the back of your neck. That may save your
life. Yeah, yeah, for sure being a being in that area again,
I don't I don't go through that area at night. I try to
have to go through it by myself. I'm not scared to drive through there.
You acounterate, you acounterate. That was a one time thing for me.
I had never even thought about anything like that, and that if it
wasn't for it what it did, I would I would have never seen it
that night. I would never even knew about none of them things. I
didn't even I didn't want to investigate that stuff until I moved out of that
house because the stuff that I was hearing was like Wow, I wouldn't go
out of my yard. I really pay more attention. I'd pay attention in
my camera system. Everything I started paying more attention to because of that when
I was there. Yeah, after you move to a different house, at
least you could get some distance between you and that area after you're done looking
around there. So I get it. I do. Captain McLeod wants to
know. Do you think it was hunting you in your car, trying to
simply run you down? You know? I think again that it was.
It was already running at that speed, and I think it where it came
out at. Would it be a close area to follow the bridge or the
right there is the highway, and I believe that it was running next to
the highway doing well. Who lord knows when something like that could go.
But that thing was moving at least thirty five when it was moving. When
it it was on the hood of a car driving sixty miles per hour,
ran into the car, weight went onto the car. We slammed on the
brakes and then hit it, and then she like let off for a second
and looked at me, and I was like go and she hit the rest
of the brakes, and that that was we were gonna kill that thing.
I mean, what would you think. I definitely I thought that thing left
marks on my car. It was humongous. All its weight was on there
because we were moving. It was on the hood of the car. Granted
we were coming to a stop, but we were doing sixty one. This
thing hit us on our cruise control. Yeah, you would expect a lot
of damage. But like I said, sometimes people hit these things and you'd
expect a ton of damage, but none is left to be found. It's
just so hard to wrap your mind around it, really is. I've got
another one for you from David Why And David wants to know did he know
about dog men before his encounter. No, I never knew about anything like
that. Never even thought about it that that's something that had Just after that.
I knew about that. But after that I looked up on Google.
I put that in there dog man on Google, and first couple of times
I put it in there, put the story up about because I put keywords,
you know, the town thing, dog man. You put it over
and over different orders and you'll get different stuff. You know. At that
time, that's what had happened. I had read a story from eighteen ninety
about some guys that were doing some logging in that area, and that it
had its down to shut down their logging thing. And it made you,
it made you think, I mean, this shappened back then, and then
I hadn't heard anything about anything, so I mean I never told anybody.
I felt embarrassed. Almost you could ridicule somebody and make fun of them,
you know, and everybody. I had mentioned it to a couple of people
and they started laughing at me, and I'm like, yeah, that's something
to laugh about. Yeah, people can be awful about things like that,
anything that's outside of their belief system. Unfortunately, they can be pretty cruel.
But I know you already know about that. Oh yeah, got another
one for you from xstas, and their question is how often do you think
about your encounter at the time, well at night? Well back then,
right after it happened. I did a chunk of investigating on it, and
I came up with a couple of answers. I kind of understood what had
been going on, and then I just stopped looking into it. I haven't
looked into it. I haven't. I tried not to think about it up
until I was going through Facebook. I've been on Facebook since the ninety nine.
I just went back on and they got you know, this is here.
I haven't been on Facebook for shoot since ninety nine, and there's the
twenty twenty four. But yeah, as soon as I got back on there,
man, people were talking about there's groups and there and there's you know.
So that's how I'm where I'm at today. Yeah, you've got a
lot of help. A lot of resources are out there now. Yeah,
imagine having an encounter back in the eighties and all the resources were really few
and far between, almost not existing. So if you have to have an
encounter, it's much better to have one today then it was back then.
No arguing that fact. I'm going to ask you one last question from the
live chat, Patrick, and this one is from Lisa Layman. Lise wants
to know, as Patrick concerned that the dog man may have his scent because
it happened so close to your home. You know that that that was a
big h that was a big thing back then. That's kind of the reason
why that I had moved out, because that's exactly what I was thinking.
I challenged that thing. When I did that, I challenged it. It
knew it knew I don't know if it knows what guns are or whatever.
I mean, they're smart animals. I don't know if that if it knew
that that's a gun that I'm pointing at it, or I don't know them
things. Uh, but I believe it did. And that's what I was
worried about. After that it happened. I thought to myself, Man,
what if I walk my dogs out one day and my alpha was pointing back
in the house and it wasn't raining, it was it was a nice beautiful
summer night, and he just didn't want to go outside. And I and
there's nothing quiet as can be, and you know, you hear that dead
quiet, and you know, man, there's something going on. You know
that don't feel right. And I brought my dogs in. That was the
first times that right. I mean, immediately after that happened. That was
like the first thing that I started thinking about. And when I took them
for walks, I had that thing ready to go, just you know,
I had it ready to go, because you don't never know when you're walking
out here. I mean again, my dogs are big dogs. They would
have killed for me if you if you that thing would have jumped on me.
Them things that my dogs would have killed them. And that's a lot
of the reason why I wasn't too worried about walking the dogs around out there.
Plus I had the same thing all the time walking out there that I
did in the car, and you know, but by myself walking around there
when when I you know, yeah, it's scary, Yes, it would
be. You have an experience like that, you find out with your own
two eyes what's lurking there in the dark or could be out there in the
dark. It is frightening, it is scary, So I get it well.
Having said that, Patrick, I can't thank you enough for coming on
and sharing the details of that experience with us. I really appreciate it.
Thank you for having me on, and thank you for teaching different people about
different situations that people have been in. That way, they don't make the
same mistakes that they could get you in a situation like that, you know,
like driving somewhere and not putting gas in your car and you live in
the country, don't be that person that run out of gas at night in
your car on a country, lonely country road. That's a dangerous spot right
there. Yeah, not the kind of spot you want to find yourself in
no doubt about that. Yeah. Yeah, Well, like I said,
thanks again so much for your time. I'm Patrick in If I can ever
help you, please let me know. All right, sounds good, Thanks
for having me. Well you're welcome, have a great night. Well that's
another one wrapped up. Before we get out of here. I want to
thank you so much for tuning in and listening as always, And if you've
had a dogman encounter of your own and would like to speak with me about
it in private, or if you'd like to be a guest on the show,
all you'd need to do is to go to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit
a report. If you do that, then I'd be more than happy to
schedule a film conversation with you so we could have a good talk about your
experience or experiences as it sometimes happens. If you've had a sasquatch sighting and
we'd like to be a guest on either of my two Bigfoot podcasts, all
you would need to do would be to go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com
let me know and I'll be in contact with you. But having said that,
like I said, thanks again so much for listening in hope. Everyone
has a great nights.