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Thought it was just going to be another ordinary night. 8 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,159 But as he found out and his wife did too, that drive that 9 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:12,960 they took wound up being anything but without any further ado, let's bring tonight's 10 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,319 guest on. Tonight's guest is Patrick from Michigan. Patrick, thanks so much 11 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,159 for joining us. Hey, thank you for having me. Well, it's 12 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:25,319 great having you here. We appreciate your time. Patrick. Please give us 13 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:32,840 a brief bio in yourself. I've owned a couple of businesses or the night 14 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:39,400 that that happened, and that was my wife at the time, and I 15 00:02:39,439 --> 00:02:45,199 owned a couple of stores and I was just you know, regular work night, 16 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:52,400 and yeah, that's basically it. But I still own a couple of 17 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:55,240 businesses. I still do a couple of things. So but Jed, I 18 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,719 was just a normal night twenty thirteen. Well it started out being a normal 19 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:06,800 night, but it wound up being anything but unfortunately. And if you own 20 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:09,240 more than one business, I know how much work it can take to keep 21 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:15,199 one business afloat. If you run and own more than one business, do 22 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,199 you still have time to get out and do things that you like to do 23 00:03:17,479 --> 00:03:22,439 or are you a slave to your businesses, which it's all easy to become. 24 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,879 At the time, I was a slave to my businesses because you're always 25 00:03:29,039 --> 00:03:34,080 working. I would wake up in the morning and at the time, one 26 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:39,080 of my side things to do was breed cane corso massives. So I had 27 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:46,400 always usually with me a two hundred pound or two hundred and fifty pound massive 28 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:51,680 with me riding in the car and around, and that's what I was doing 29 00:03:51,719 --> 00:03:55,599 at the time, breeding them. Well, yeah, that's a big one. 30 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,479 A two hundred pounder is like a record breaker. I didn't even know 31 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,840 they got to be two fifty that's just colossal. Well maybe a little bit 32 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:10,719 less, but yeah, humongous dog, Yeah, humongous. And I had 33 00:04:10,719 --> 00:04:13,919 walked around with four of them, and then you sometimes think, man, 34 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:17,600 it's like for it's like a lot of weight that you're holding on to. 35 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:20,959 If they are getting the car at the same time, it can be real 36 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:27,879 heavy. But that's another slave to the you know, slave to what you're 37 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,439 doing. Oh definitely, yeah. I can only imagine how much food for 38 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,839 Connie Corsos like that would eat. That would definitely you had a house and 39 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,399 home. I mean, that's that's a lot of food right there. Yeah. 40 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:46,000 Yeah, leftover pizza is very important. At that time in my life, 41 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,279 we would order pizzas and save the crust and you know, and that's 42 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:53,759 what they lived. They like to get down on as the snack. My 43 00:04:54,079 --> 00:05:00,199 daughters at the time didn't eat crust, so you know, yeah, that 44 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,079 would be rough. I can only imagine your food bill. That must have 45 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,839 been something else. Patrick, you had your encounter while you're making an unusual 46 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:12,319 delivery with your wife. What were you delivering without telling us any particulars about 47 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,600 the actual encounter, just just some produce and stuff. I was running to 48 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:26,560 one of my stores and I usually would come. What I'd do is I 49 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,959 go to work and then I would come home for the last hour of my 50 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:34,600 kids being up, and I come home and I pray with my daughter and 51 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,879 I talked with my other daughter about what happened that day at school, because 52 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,839 you know, you got two running like that, it's a lot of stuff. 53 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:50,399 And then I would kind of pit stop between like nine and ten every 54 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:54,120 night at my own house, you know, just to make sure that everything 55 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,920 is in order. And just a regular night, we pit stopped in there. 56 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:08,720 I had their mom with me and we left the house and it's approximately 57 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:15,160 one mile two and a half miles of kind of kitty corner two and a 58 00:06:15,199 --> 00:06:21,959 half miles behind my house to the to the east. And so the road 59 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,160 that we were taking I took all the time. I took it in the 60 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,839 morning to school. Hey, Patrick, it sounds like you're telling us about 61 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,720 your encounter already. Yeah, please hold the details of that encounter. We're 62 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:36,240 going to get into that just a bit. But yeah, not quite yet. 63 00:06:38,079 --> 00:06:43,160 But how did you come into doing that line of work? A lot 64 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,319 of different laws and stuff were passed in two thousand and eight here in Michigan, 65 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:53,040 which opened up a whole bunch of different business opportunities to people that wanted 66 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:58,319 to make money. So with them opportunities. I ended up opening a couple 67 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,199 of stores, and well, you you know, sell produce at the stores, 68 00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:06,480 and that was the same thing that went along with that law, so 69 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:11,639 you know, and I had a couple of shops at that time, so 70 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,120 I'd have to be in and out doing things, you know, staying busy. 71 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,399 Oh I don't doubt that you stayed busy one bit. Sounds like you 72 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,480 were pretty good at doing that. I'm wondering, Patrick, how well does 73 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:30,199 your wife normally handle frightening experiences. She doesn't like talking about them. She 74 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:39,680 before, before this happened, you could talk about things like that with her. 75 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:44,240 After this happened, she didn't want to hear about things like that anymore 76 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,120 because it scared her. So so she just put it out of her mind. 77 00:07:49,399 --> 00:07:51,279 And that's what she would tell me. I got to sleep, so 78 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:55,160 I can't never think about that. I got to think about something else. 79 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,160 And like even right now, she still lives in that area that that thing 80 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,279 could be around him, so it's you know, that's what she thinks, 81 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:09,720 you know. So wow, Yeah, I didn't know she still lived in 82 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:13,920 that area. I sure hope she never does have another encounter with it, 83 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,439 because it sure sounds to me like she didn't handle that first one all that 84 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:22,480 well. No, not at all, not at all. So it sounds 85 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,759 to me like she had a harder time dealing with that experience than you did. 86 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:31,879 Yeah, she did it, actually, Oh yeah, she really did. 87 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:35,639 I didn't realize how much until I had just recently called her and asked 88 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:39,480 her, do you remember about that night? And yeah. She got into 89 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:41,559 it with me and told me really what was going on in her head? 90 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,879 And I was like, man, I'm sorry. She's like, I don't 91 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,720 like talking about it because I don't think about it. I just put it 92 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,559 out of my head like it didn't happen. And I'm like, wow, 93 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:54,360 because I asked her, do you remember this or that? She's like, 94 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,440 I remember exactly what happened, and she said, but it scares me so 95 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,840 much. I have put it out of my mind. It scares me to 96 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:07,919 even think about that. You know. Well, some people have different ways 97 00:09:07,919 --> 00:09:11,919 of dealing with their experiences like that, traumatic experiences some people try to put 98 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,399 in the back of their mind, which I mean, you can't lie to 99 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,840 yourself, you can't hide anything from yourself. I mean, that's just like 100 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,919 putting a band aid on a gunshot wound. I mean, yeah, it 101 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,279 might make you think you're accomplishing something, but when it boils down to it, 102 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,799 you're not. It's still going to eat at you and bother you. 103 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:33,360 But however she thinks is her best option for dealing with that experience. I 104 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:37,120 mean, it's a free country. It's up to her to handle however she 105 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,639 wants to. So, yeah, I can't say anything about that anything more 106 00:09:41,639 --> 00:09:46,759 than I already have. From what I understand, you found out that you're 107 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:50,639 not the only one who's had an experience with dog men in that area where 108 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:54,200 you had your encounter. What more can you tell us about that? Yeah? 109 00:09:54,320 --> 00:10:01,240 I looked that up several times dog man before I'd even heard another person 110 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:07,000 ever say that word to me before, but I had thought about something. 111 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,679 I would go around and I'd ask different people questions about, you know, 112 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:18,559 things, and one person was telling me, I think something happened in that 113 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,120 town a while ago, in that same area, local that lived right there, 114 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:31,320 that was there his whole life and love story short. He ended up 115 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:39,840 saying that I think that thing still could possibly be in that area because that 116 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:46,799 happened to him. Yeah, it just might be. I'm convinced these guys, 117 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,759 they operated in a huge home range. If they stayed in one spot 118 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:54,360 too long, then it'd be all too easy for them to deplete the resources 119 00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:58,519 in that area almost overnight basically. But yeah, I think they operated in 120 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,000 a huge home range the same way a large predator like a mountain lion wood 121 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,519 or a grizzly wood, for example, so that they're always moving in that 122 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,519 way the resources where they were the night before, and however amount of time 123 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,360 before those resources have a chance to replenish, and that way they can circle 124 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:22,200 back into that area and it's good as new by the time they get back. 125 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:24,879 So yeah, that's why I think they do that well. Without any 126 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:30,000 further ado, Patrick, I want you to tell us about your encounter now. 127 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:35,879 Please be as descriptive as you possibly can. Okay, again, we 128 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:41,120 were just driving a regular normal night in the country and left the house, 129 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:46,759 went down a mile, turn left, went down another mile and a half, 130 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:52,399 and we were doing sixty miles per hour. I just bought BMW the 131 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,840 year before that, and it was a new car for us. Anyways, 132 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,759 and this thing, we're doing six and this thing's latched on, hit the 133 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:07,480 side of the BMW and the quarter panel and latched onto the hood of the 134 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,320 car with one hand over one side and one hand all the way over the 135 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,840 other side, like holding onto the where the wheelwll live with their hands, 136 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:22,879 so holding the wheel well also holding the hood, and we slammed on the 137 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:28,879 brakes, and almost before we stopped, I had already had my gun, 138 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,440 because I carried a gun. Doing deliveries in some areas of Michigan can be 139 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:41,039 very dangerous. So love story short, I had a block forty on me 140 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:46,080 and as soon as that happened, as soon as I seen it, it 141 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,639 hit the car and then looked in my eyes. And as it's looking in 142 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:56,720 my eyes, as it's looking in my eyes, it's looking at me like 143 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,240 like it's pissed, Like I'm pissed that you just got in my way, 144 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:09,480 and like almost just looking at me like that snarling kind of And by the 145 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,639 time we stopped, she had went halfway stopped, and then she tried to 146 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,399 stop it real fast to make that thing like, oh, I don't know, 147 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,600 you just stopped the car real fast, and long story short, it 148 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:28,480 hopped up and on the field that it was coming out of it was a 149 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:31,600 corn field, and the corn hadn't been cut the corn was long on the 150 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:35,840 field that it was going through. The corn was low already cut like the 151 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:41,679 week before or something. So as it's running it, you might have thought 152 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,399 it was going through that corn field. So it might have been out fulls 153 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:48,240 is what I'm thinking. It is just running full speed and hit my car, 154 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:54,879 grabbed it and with so much power though it grabbed it like like just 155 00:13:54,919 --> 00:13:58,600 like it ain't nothing like a cat plays with the toy. It jumped up 156 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:03,240 on the my car after hitting like that, looked at me. Mean. 157 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:07,559 When we stopped the car, I had my block forty cocked and as soon 158 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,600 as we stopped the car, I started trying to open the door. And 159 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,440 as soon as I opened the door, this thing hopped onto the giver's side, 160 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:20,519 ran around the back of the car, and as I had my gun 161 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:26,879 up, it ran to three and a half leaps and it was back into 162 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:30,960 the cornfield that it had just ran out of in three and a half leaps 163 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:35,399 one two, three that fast, I mean, it was just incredible. 164 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:46,080 And when I started to aim up at it it I was baffled that it 165 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:50,360 was on two legs running and then the size of its arms were hanging down 166 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,120 to its knees. When it was on the hood of the car, it 167 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:58,360 looked like it was grabbing the wheel well and the thing and holding its body 168 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:03,679 and pushing it up closer to the car kind of sorta. And this is 169 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:07,399 just weird, just like in full control. And then when we stopped, 170 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:13,000 it just took off like I'd never seen anything like that. And I aimed 171 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,000 at it and it popped right back into the woods or the corn right there, 172 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:20,720 and it went about four rows back or five rows back, and then 173 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,399 it just stopped and didn't move it all. And I was out of the 174 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,519 car and on yelling, come on, boy, come on, and it 175 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:31,519 whenn't moved. It was in there, and she started screaming, you are 176 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:35,960 nuts. Closed the door. I'm leaving you. And I was like, 177 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,200 oh man, She's like, carry, I don't want the door. Get 178 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,799 in here, get in here. And so I just stood out there for 179 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,720 a second and then she started screaming scared, and so I left the car 180 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:52,679 door open. I should have probably closed the car door as I was getting 181 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,440 out, but it happened so fascined, I didn't have the time to do 182 00:15:54,480 --> 00:16:00,600 all that. Long story short, I ended up just getting back into the 183 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:04,399 car and we just went about our day. I thought that it had damaged 184 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:08,600 the front end of my car. As I looked on it the following day, 185 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:12,240 you could see that something grabbed it, but it didn't bust anything. 186 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,080 You could see it in the dirt on there when you grab it, what 187 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,080 car wasn't all the way clean, And when you grab it, you'll see 188 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,919 the dirt mark where the hand was. And I could see the dirt mark 189 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,360 where the hand was right on there, and I thought, man, that's 190 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:30,240 a big animal, you know, that's the biggest thing I had ever seen. 191 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:38,240 Its eyes were red and like yellow, reddish yellow, like a mixture, 192 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:44,039 almost craziest stuff I ever seen. And its eyes did look kind of 193 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:51,639 glowing, yeah, like kind of glowing for sure. And it was eight 194 00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:56,240 foot tall every bit of four hundred pounds. It had a big head. 195 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,960 There's a couple there's a picture of a trail cam and somebody got of this 196 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,160 animal. It looks like the exact same animal because it looks clownish, it's 197 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:15,160 so big, it's so poofy, and it's just a massive, massive alpha 198 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:22,839 predator straight out. I couldn't even believe it if you. If I would 199 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:25,920 have known, there were things like that out there because so many times I 200 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,480 had drove that area and never had no gun. Ninety percent of the time 201 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:34,759 I didn't carry no gun in the car, And that night I just had 202 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:40,039 a feeling and I was like, man, long story short, that thing 203 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:47,160 is way beyond what anybody would actually until you see it, until you really 204 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:52,720 understand, and it's just like super fearful. This thing is no joke. 205 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:57,079 It's heads as big as a horse. I mean, its eyes were like 206 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:04,160 probably six cents just five inches difference. And there that's a huge animal. 207 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:10,920 And it's I think it had two different just like a horse or kind of 208 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,000 like Pathway horse, Hathway dog, and then man, because it's standing up 209 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:21,119 and it's kind of it's got an intelligent look to it. So when you 210 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,759 see it's it's an intelligent animal. And for it to do what it did, 211 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:32,880 it knew that it had to have known. I moved quick when that 212 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,200 that thing was on the car to get my gun real fast. And as 213 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:44,440 soon as the car stopped, it was on and that thing went so fast 214 00:18:45,279 --> 00:18:49,680 and it was so I'm looking. I was lying. I could have shot 215 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:55,200 a body shot, but a body shot was what I was looking for. 216 00:18:55,279 --> 00:18:57,200 I was looking. I was thinking, if that thing steps around, it 217 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:02,279 comes even stops, or I can get a shot at its eyes. That's 218 00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:06,480 what you want to shoot, is his eyes, because everything else man that 219 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,079 his bones are probably so strong it just ricocheted off. You could shoot an 220 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:15,519 animal like that and just hit bones a couple of good times before you actually 221 00:19:15,839 --> 00:19:21,319 hit anything to kill it. And you wouldn't take chances with my life unless 222 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:23,839 I'm if I'm gonna do you know, a headshot, and it's got it's 223 00:19:23,839 --> 00:19:26,960 got a big enough head where you can hit it. I mean it's a 224 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,960 big head. You can hit that head. It's big. But again, 225 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:41,000 the almost cartoon ish nightmares, for damn sure looked like h like a cartoon 226 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:48,279 running into the corner and diving in and just sitting in there listening to you. 227 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,200 And I was like just thinking to myself, I mean it was only 228 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,960 granted the minator so I was outside of the car, but uh yeah, 229 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,880 immediate lee, I started walking back. I put a distance between probably a 230 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,440 half a car distance from the back of my bumper. I walked at it, 231 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:12,079 so I walked a fire away from the door where she didn't want the 232 00:20:12,079 --> 00:20:15,400 door open. She was scared that she don't want the car door, I'll 233 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,480 either get in or close the door. I'm gonna close it on you. 234 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,519 And I can understand that. But if she would have left, then then 235 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,319 it would have got then it would have gotten good. But you know then 236 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,599 they just carry you off and you just become up missing. Well, she 237 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,319 might have said something to the police, but who would Who would listen to 238 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,279 you if something happened to you in a situation like that, I mean, 239 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:45,119 that's automatic. Man. You probably you know who knows you go to jail 240 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:48,359 prison, say you did something when you're just with somebody that something happened to 241 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,119 and they just vanished and the story ain't good enough. I mean I couldn't 242 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,960 even describe a good enough story for that. There's no way to describe it. 243 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,079 It's just unreal. And even if he was to see something like that 244 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,920 standing in the shade or somewhere like that, that's a huge animal to see 245 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,200 your eyes, you wouldn't believe it even if I seen it again. I 246 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,160 mean I watched trail cams from all the people. I watch as much a 247 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,000 trail cans videos as I can, and pictures that they got off trail cam 248 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:27,759 videos, and the one picture from around either Williamston, Michigan to Perry, 249 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:33,559 Michigan. That thing is in there right there in that area. But definitely 250 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,480 they run on the side of the highway, like you know, a lot 251 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:41,960 of traffic goes through there just because of that reason, and them are dangerous 252 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:48,559 areas because the highway is a way for somebody to animals to move through there. 253 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,920 You know. Well, I can only imagine the thoughts that must have 254 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,640 been going through your head when all that was playing out. I'm wondering though, 255 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,279 Patrick, was it laying entirely on the hood with his legs for holded 256 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,880 up underneath it, or was it laying also partially on the windshield, maybe 257 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,440 even onto the roof as well. Actually moved kind of a little bit up. 258 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,400 It moved its butt up. It looked like to me like it was 259 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:17,799 like a two foot three foot from the from the window. So yeah, 260 00:22:17,839 --> 00:22:19,960 it had it was all the way on the car, and it all the 261 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,440 way hit the car and it had its butt up kind of. And when 262 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,599 we hit the brakes, it was already moving off. It was already moving 263 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:38,000 off the car. It it grabs like the wheelwlls and like got like both 264 00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:41,759 sides one hand on one side, one hand on another, and it was 265 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:45,920 just looking at me. And I mean it looked at me that whole time 266 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,599 from when it hit and then it looked in the window and just looked at 267 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:55,000 me like huh, like I could kill you right now, watch this. 268 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,599 And I was preaching and trying to get that thing I and my eyes were 269 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:06,920 on the whole time. I didn't even didn't even look towards where I was 270 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,599 getting the gun from. I just looked at that thing the whole time. 271 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,480 And I just grabbed that gun automatic because I was that I was, it 272 00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:19,480 was that's a dangerous situation. That that situation could have gone really really bad, 273 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,119 and that animal had the strength to reach in there and bust my window 274 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:32,640 or bust her window, just bust that front window altogether and get in the 275 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,079 car. I mean, that's how tough that thing looks like. It's it's 276 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,319 just like half of a brick. I mean, it's a bit of brick. 277 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,279 Hand. That's a cuemongous hand. That thing hitting that windshield that was 278 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,640 knocking in. You know, there would would be nothing, you know, 279 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,799 you couldn't keep things. You know, it breaks through them. It's why 280 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:02,799 just the most unreal situation ever been. And yeah, it was all the 281 00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:04,519 way on the car. You could feel it hit the car and move, 282 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,519 and it was heavy and it put weight on the hood of the car and 283 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:14,400 you could instantly fell eight hundred pounds on the hood of that car. Oh, 284 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,279 I'm sure you could feel it. Was that stretch of road super straight 285 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,960 or were there curves in it where you were at at that point on the 286 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,880 car? No, on the road itself. Did that road curve in that 287 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,000 area where you were at or was it bone straight? That road was It 288 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:42,279 was probably a three three hundred yards away from the Highway ninety six and Williamston 289 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:48,000 on Deeps Road. They only have one they have two bridges in that area, 290 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:55,200 and that's one of the bridges right there connect connects Stockbridge and Dansville, 291 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,640 Williamston and then Perry. It was that close to the highway where you're at 292 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,759 that point, But that still doesn't preclude the chance there might have been curves 293 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:07,519 in the road at the same time. Was it super straight or were there 294 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:11,960 any curves at that point? There were no curves right there. I took 295 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,359 a right hand turn a mile and a half behind me before I turned on 296 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,839 that that's a fifty five and up back road right there, and usually people 297 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,519 who do sixty miles per hour on it. We were doing sixty. It's 298 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:34,039 ten thirty at night, and yeah that no, we're going in the straight 299 00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:41,359 line. And we stopped it within probably probably thirty yards twenty yards thirty yards. 300 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,119 That thing was on the hood of the car. Wow, that's rough. 301 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,279 What worries me is if you're doing sixty when it hopped onto the hood 302 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:52,319 as big as it was, if it was an eight foot tall dog, 303 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,039 man, did it block all of your view of the road or were you 304 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,680 still are to see the road? Man? No? Oh, all you 305 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,000 could see is this thing on top of the windshield. Looked like his face 306 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,319 is about to come in and start breathing on you. I mean he was 307 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:14,160 right up on the windshield. Man. Definitely two definitely less than two feet 308 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,519 from the windshield he was at I mean literally he could have just reached with 309 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,079 the hand and went right through the windshield. Literally, I seen that thing 310 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,279 with it like three to four foot from my head was his head My eyes 311 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:37,000 locked his eyes, and that it was horrifying. You know, if I 312 00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:41,440 did it wasn't earned that night, I would have had a different thing about 313 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,960 it, you know, but even you couldn't that thing if you tried to 314 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,839 hit it with your car and others certain you would never be able to. 315 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,640 That thing got hit by a car but didn't get hit, almost like it 316 00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:56,480 wanted to jump on and see if it could do that going across. I 317 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,920 think I startled it when it was going, but it then it PHAs that 318 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,359 thing. That thing held on I mean, how could you hold onto a 319 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,799 car going that fast unless you put your weight on it like that. I'm 320 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:15,039 incredible, just incredible moves from this animal. And I could just imagine being 321 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:19,200 outside how fast I mean you got you have to be pointed at him right 322 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,799 as soon as you get up and out of there. Man, and that 323 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:26,599 that thing came back, I don't know you did be it'd be a fifty 324 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:33,559 to fifty maybe less chance for you with the gun. Yeah, the odds 325 00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:37,200 for your well being wouldn't be very high, that's for sure. And you 326 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,119 just mentioned the gun. You pulled out a block forty to try and deal 327 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,519 with any foot tall dog me in that ahead the size of a horse. 328 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,440 How sure were you or weren't you in that gun's ability to protect you from 329 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:56,559 it? I was. I was completely completely trusted that gun at that moment. 330 00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:00,599 I wouldn't have had that gun. I wouldn't have got out of that 331 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:06,880 car, or would have just kept going. There's no way I would stop. 332 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,240 But because we stopped, I just I started screaming, stopped the car, 333 00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:15,039 stop the car, and I just went into my own mode. And 334 00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:19,240 I thought that I had shot a lot with that block forty So I was 335 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:23,240 right on for twenty five yards. I was real good shot. But I 336 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,720 was planning that that thing came back, or was eveuld come back at me. 337 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,680 I would have to hit it right in the head right now, eyeballs, 338 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,799 is my thought at that time. Well, yeah, if you do 339 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,519 shoot at it, then you definitely need to be a good shot for your 340 00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:41,279 own safety. If there is such a thing a safety when it comes to 341 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:45,200 shooting and a dog man, which, yeah, that's up in the air. 342 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,440 But yeah, that's a whole nother show right there. One of the 343 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:55,039 other reasons that I did that is because do you know what a dog man 344 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,559 body would be worth? I mean, if you think about it, it 345 00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:03,039 could be possibly worth millions of dollars. I've never even seen it. I 346 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:10,119 thought it looked like a cartoon like a state fair fake toy type thing, 347 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,559 man, not not anything from a distance. And then when you got up 348 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:18,839 on it, you see, when it's right in your face, you don't 349 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,880 even see its body or anything. You just looking at space and its arms 350 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:26,880 in the whole front window of the car, I mean about to come through 351 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:33,400 the front window of the car. And when that happened, it happened so 352 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,359 fast, and I thought, that look like a million dollars to me, 353 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,039 And I mean, I don't now I'm realizing that you could get in trouble 354 00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:45,519 for shooting one of them, But I'm gonna be honest with you that that 355 00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:51,119 thing's so crazy that it needs to be shot. Something that looks that intimidating, 356 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,839 I guess. I guess I was worried about my family and my own 357 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,440 dogs that I had in that area. And then that's an alpha press and 358 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,799 it's in that area, then it needs to be took down because that puts 359 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:11,640 every and anybody in definite, big jeopardy of something happening bad to them if 360 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,440 it's in your area. Yeah, it's definitely not a good thing to have 361 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,359 a dog, mean hanging around, no doubt about that. What about the 362 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,400 hood. If it was that big, that heavy, what kind of damage 363 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,480 did the hood of the car suffer? You know, it suffered no damage 364 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:33,400 that you could it suffered. You could just see the handmarks on the car. 365 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:37,160 The car had like dust over it. That car new BMW. That 366 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,039 car was clean almost all the time at that time. It did have a 367 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,359 dust cover on it. And you could see where it grabbed the wheelwells and 368 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:51,440 the and the hood and the whole hood. You could see the markings of 369 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,640 it. It was all over the car and almost wiped it clean. I 370 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,519 mean, he was all on the hood. And then when I actually looked 371 00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:03,680 at it, there was nothing wrong with it. And that's the first thing 372 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,000 that I thought, that, man, this thing just smashed out the hood 373 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,640 in my car. I'm gonna kill it. And then number two, it 374 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,160 looks like it's worth a million dollars. But I didn't think about none of 375 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,759 that when it happened. I was in total, complete, like fear. 376 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,920 But if you got fear against something, that thing literally was like a mile 377 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,039 and a half from my house. I walked my dogs outside a few times 378 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:30,759 and for them to just kind of wind a little bit that they don't want 379 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,359 to be out here. I'd rather go inside. I don't want to be 380 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,799 out here, and you could tell that something was wrong, and at them 381 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,920 times that's what I think. That thing. We had some chickens, and 382 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,039 the chickens were like eight and a couple of bytes. One of them were 383 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:48,680 the other one we never found, but we had a couple of things come 384 00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:56,720 up around our house outside. Animals took them away and killed Well, that's 385 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,359 how they operate. When you think about their daily clorkvironments, it's no surprise 386 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,680 that they would do things like that at least from time to time. And 387 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,440 talking about the fact that your car never suffered any damage, it's really hard 388 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,599 to wrap your mind around. But there have been quite a few credible eyewitnesses 389 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,119 I've spoken with over the years who were just driving down the road and unfortunately 390 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,839 a dog man jumped out in front of the car, walked out in front 391 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,279 of the car, and they hit that dog man head on at speed. 392 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,480 Well, when they eventually checked the car for damage, they didn't see any 393 00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:32,920 damage, even though it was a really big hit. So you know, 394 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:38,160 there are people who point towards idea that these guys have supernatural characteristics. Some 395 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,400 might maybe others don't, but when you look at what happened to your car, 396 00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:47,640 it sure does make you wonder. Yeah, it'd be more though the 397 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:54,000 density of their bones, that's what they've been finding. Your density is bigger. 398 00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:58,920 Yeah, but a big animal like that. Definitely, that put a 399 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,160 hit on my car where I again, I thought it smashed my front end 400 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,240 of my car. And that's half the reason that I even got out of 401 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,920 the car and reacted like that, because that was my new car. I 402 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,680 was still paying payments on it. It's like one year old. I got 403 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,200 five years worth of payments on this thing, and I'm like, oh my 404 00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:21,680 god, and it happened, you know. I mean, but yeah, 405 00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,279 I probably shouldn't did that, but I did it anyways, and if I 406 00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:30,680 had to do it again, I probably do it again because them things are 407 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:35,880 dangerous. I mean maybe not. I don't know. It never hurt me. 408 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,920 I thought it hurt my car. But yeah, for the more that 409 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,839 I hear anything that you see like that, though, in this world, 410 00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:47,680 you're going to react like that. You're going to react like this like it's 411 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,160 an alpha. It's not like that's like somebody coming to your party and having 412 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,519 an ak on one end and you know what I'm saying, am I r 413 00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,000 on the back and a couple of guns on them? You'd be like, 414 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:02,720 what the hell are you doing? Yeah, you would be looking at that 415 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,440 dog. That dog is. If you see that anywhere, it's You're just 416 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:15,679 it's gonna be so frightening, it's horrifying. So think about and to look 417 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,719 at what that thing is. And I watched it run away, and I 418 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,719 mean it was fast, it was agile, it was big, it was 419 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:29,280 super big, and anything like that man is definitely a threat. As a 420 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:35,280 man, you're gonna be threatened. I mean that. Yeah, Like unreal 421 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,800 to think that you would not hear about these things as I was growing up. 422 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,880 Well, you've heard about the Michigan dog Man. That's what you encountered. 423 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,360 Unfortunately. Let's get to the listener questions now, Patrick. The first 424 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,760 one up is from a really nice lady named Joyce Stone, and her question, 425 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,280 Hey, Joyce, her question is you said to look at you in 426 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,519 the eyes, did a mind speak any words into your thoughts? It looked 427 00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:09,280 into my eyes and it felt like it was telling me like I was a 428 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:15,199 problem to that thing. And then't the thought came into my head. And 429 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,480 that's another reason why I reacted like that is that you ain't nothing to me. 430 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:22,559 You just pissed me off. And it looked at me like mad like 431 00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:25,920 that, rather than like if you got hit by a car, you'd be 432 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,840 looking at like hey stop, you know hey, uh sorry. I ran 433 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,440 into knowing the thing wasn't sorry at all. It was pissed off and like 434 00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:40,239 menacing looking. Oh, I'm sure it was. And it looks like Michigan 435 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,639 medi Eater missed a part where you told us where this encounter happened. Can 436 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:52,440 you touch on that again for him? Yeah, it's in Williamston, Michigan, 437 00:35:52,679 --> 00:36:01,920 one mile west of Well. Actually it's a right where the overpass is 438 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:09,360 going across the ninety six highway in Williamston, Michigan, right before the bridge, 439 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:15,239 right there on the south side of that bridge. And that was probably 440 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:21,719 three four hundred yards before the bridge. So there's a few hundred three four 441 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,719 hundred yards before the bridge that happened maybe less, I'm not sure. Right 442 00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:32,360 in that last quarter mile before the bridge, I wouldn't be surprised if people 443 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,440 flocked to that area now trying to seek out through and dogged encounters. I 444 00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:40,840 was driving north and if you look right now, I was driving north at 445 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,559 that time, and if you look right now, driving north in that spot 446 00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:51,440 where it was at, everything got tornado damaged in that whole thick brush area 447 00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:54,440 back there. So somebody, you know, maybe that's the way the government 448 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,400 does of something they're living in somewhere like that, they have a tornado hit 449 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,519 it, and I mean it just knocked out all of the trees and everything 450 00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:07,599 in that area. But what's funny is it only accidentally, I guess, 451 00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:13,119 hit a couple of houses by accident, hardly no damage to anything else except 452 00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,599 for the area that thing was in. I had thought about that too that 453 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,039 you know, maybe they're trying to get rid of that problem. Or with 454 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:23,880 all them trees down now, I mean, that's even more menacing because there's 455 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:29,440 more places to hide in there. Yeah, tons of places. That sounds 456 00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:34,320 like I've got another one up for you from me in consall. And AND's 457 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,920 question is, Patrick, did you smell anything? Uh? You know, 458 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:43,159 at the time, I didn't. I didn't even notice. And we had 459 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:47,400 the windows up, both of the windows. Uh you know, I think 460 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,519 I had my window cracked a little bit, But no, I didn't smell 461 00:37:52,559 --> 00:38:00,239 anything overwhelming. I didn't smell anything overwhelming. I haven't asked her. No, 462 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:07,239 I didn't smell anything. It happened so fast. It was just you 463 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,960 would think you would smell something like that, but it happened so fast. 464 00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:15,320 It happened so fast, But I bet it seemed like it took an eternity. 465 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:21,159 Yeah, it felt like forever, because when that's happening to you, 466 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,840 each second going by, your mind is just racing at that second. What 467 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,199 the hell am I going to do? You know? And the first thing 468 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,599 is, there's my guns right here, you know what I'm saying. And 469 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,920 that's the first thing that I've thought about. But yeah, if anything that 470 00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:43,039 would have happened to the car or anything that could have been all it could 471 00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,480 have just reached in and ripped your neck off. I mean, it's that 472 00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:51,039 big and power full of an animal. I've never seen anything that big outside 473 00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:54,039 of a zoo. Yeah. Probably won't see anything like that again in your 474 00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:58,320 life either. I hope you don't, but I guess time will tell on 475 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,320 that. You never know. The next question up, that's right. The 476 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,039 next question up is from Colonel Chappie, and Colonel's question is did he have 477 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:15,840 fingers versus pause from Indiana Fingers and the fingers where I had his hands were 478 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:22,360 real hairy. The outside of his hands were hairy, And yeah it was. 479 00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:28,199 It was humongous hand though, maybe three four times bigger than my own 480 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,800 hand, big enough where you could just hold the basketball in each chance. 481 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,679 Yeah, like I told you in the first conversation we had big ones can 482 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,920 have hands the size of a trash candle lid when they open up their hands 483 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,519 all the way. So yeah, they can have huge hands, they really 484 00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:49,559 can. But when you look at them hands from the side view man, 485 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:53,159 it looks like them hands are like two foot long just on the side view. 486 00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:57,920 Well, depending on how big the dog man is, they can be 487 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,199 that big. I've got another questquestion forty. It is from Glenn Glenn Kamada. 488 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,039 You already answered this one. Glenn wanted to know how tall the dog 489 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:10,039 man was and Glenn, he said it was about eight feet when it stood 490 00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:17,800 up upright. And then the next question is also partially been answered. Michigan 491 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,360 media wants to know if you noticed any damage here or blood left on the 492 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,679 car? No damage, but did you ever find any blood or here? 493 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,000 Uh? You know what I did it There was nothing on that car. 494 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,880 And every time that I've had things happen hitting animals, deer. I'll hit 495 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,519 a few deer, you'll get a little bit of hair. But there was 496 00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:43,239 nothing on that car. You could see where it kind of grabbed the wheel 497 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,559 well and the hood at the same time. On each side. There's markings 498 00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:52,639 right there, and there's markings of the body up to the half what pasted 499 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:54,519 the hood all the way up to the other side of the hood. So 500 00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:00,639 right at the edge of the hood is where his body stopped. And then 501 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,719 his head. He pulled his head back. It was just and had his 502 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,960 arms and kind of like like lifted itself up like at the same time as 503 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:14,039 we're stopping, lifted itself up like again, like I said, and pulling 504 00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:19,559 his back legs because we were It took about maybe ten twenty yards man to 505 00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:22,440 stop. It took a minute. She hit the brakes halfway and I looked 506 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:28,760 at me and I go, she was watching me what I was doing, 507 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,880 And I told you what I was doing. So yeah, yes, he 508 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,719 did. He sure did. When you say that I left markings on the 509 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,920 car, on the hood and other places, what kind of markings did it 510 00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:46,960 leave? The dust was gone and them places, all the dust was gone 511 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,119 because I looked at that car. We drove probably half a mile or a 512 00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:55,199 mile away from there and pulled the car over, and I looked at it 513 00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,280 with the flashlight and all you could see is the it was dust on there 514 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,199 and you can see that it got white DOFs all the dust and shits like 515 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:08,239 white doss, you know, And the rest of the car has a dust 516 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:14,079 layer on it. So you could like see a big ass white clean mark 517 00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:19,039 on the top of the hood. Language Oh yeah, on the top of 518 00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:22,719 the hood. That's exactly what you see. Well, I'll bet, I'll 519 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:29,519 bet. I've got another question up for you from Ian Console and then's question 520 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,800 is did it have a tail? Yes, it did have a tail, 521 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,840 and a big tail, and that was something else that Yeah, it looked 522 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:44,480 like h like a lion tail or something. But it had hair on it, 523 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:50,440 and it had thick hair on it. It was like again like like 524 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:59,679 a really fluffy, uh dog man hair thick and like like thick, probably 525 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:05,119 about two inches thick. There was nowhere separate space that did not have two 526 00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:08,360 inches of hair on it in its hands. Yeah, that's pretty hearing. 527 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,800 I've got another question for you from Anne Conseil and she wants to know was 528 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,960 it a boy or a girl. I could not tell you that. I 529 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,400 didn't get a chance to see it. To me, it looked like a 530 00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:27,360 boy. I've had male and female dogs, and again, cane corsos are 531 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:34,880 big dogs. Cane corso massive they they can get humongous. And I had 532 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:42,800 an Olympic bloodline cane corsos, and they're small compared to that animal. That's 533 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,519 the whole next level up, even beyond like a you would go one of 534 00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:54,199 them super wolves. And then that thing didn't mean that's a regular a wolf. 535 00:43:54,320 --> 00:44:00,239 A big full sized wolf are humongous animals. But this thing's double well 536 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:06,159 that size, I mean humongous, eight feet tall standing up on his back 537 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,400 legs. I guess it was twice that size. That's pretty big. Glenn 538 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:15,079 Kamada has the next one up. He wants to know. Was there a 539 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:20,079 snap, crackling or popping noise when it stood up? No noise, I 540 00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:24,639 couldn't. I don't know if we had the radio up or what. No 541 00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:31,039 no noise, no, just the baming sound. And then it kind of 542 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:39,079 made a breathing noise when it was gone. I heard it breathe. It 543 00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:45,559 was breathing heavy went on when it got off of the car. As soon 544 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:49,480 as my ears got out of the car, I could hear that thing breathing 545 00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:54,400 heavy, and it was super fast. But I didn't hear no cracks or 546 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,639 nothing. I bet it was breathing heavy. If it caught up to your 547 00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:01,679 car when your car was doing sixty, you know, I bet he was 548 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,920 working to do that. This next question up is from Caitlyn McLoud and her 549 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:15,079 question is how has the sighting affected you? Again, I has changed the 550 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:21,880 way that I do things where I go because I don't now I don't like 551 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,480 driving through country the country and places. Before I could, I could drive 552 00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:30,400 across half of the state and I hit a main road, just get the 553 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:37,639 back you know, US highways, and go. Now I am afraid to 554 00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:44,559 go long distances because, by any coincidence, if you're not earned you know, 555 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,480 I keep one in the trunk of the car. And if you're not, 556 00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:51,280 and even at that with what happened, if that happened right now, 557 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:54,320 I would I would drive away. If my car was my gun was locked 558 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,880 in the trunk of the car, I have to keep on going. I 559 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:05,840 mean, it's a dangerous animal and it's unreal, unreal, dangerous, just 560 00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:12,239 menacing like but a lot of people hasn't done anything too, but just imagine 561 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,760 the ones that it has. Yeah, the potential is definitely there to do 562 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:21,079 a lot of damage. The next one up is from Anne Console and she 563 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:27,199 wants to know if other cars were around. No, no other cars were 564 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:32,159 around. We were the only one that I on that road. We stopped 565 00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:37,960 and everything there was no no cars were at that time. I was like 566 00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:42,760 ten thirty at night on like a Tuesday night or something, a slow night 567 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,400 is when that was. And the moon was it was almost a full moon, 568 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,679 I believe, and the other side of the field was low. So 569 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,960 if it would have went into that field, I could have popped some shots 570 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,519 off and then hopped back into the car and scramble from an other clip that 571 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:05,679 I probably wouldn't find. But at the time, you know, yeah, 572 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,440 that's scary animal. He probably wouldn't have had an easy time finding it. 573 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,000 You probably have a hard time finding your butt with both hands, considering how 574 00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:19,280 rattled you must have been, So that's understandable. That is. This next 575 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:25,320 one up is from Millie Felita Worse and her question is how is everyday life 576 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:31,679 after your dog meeting encounter. Hope all is well, everyday life is okay. 577 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,480 But again I educate. Now. I got two daughters. One of 578 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,639 my daughters has three kids right now. You know they're younger though, and 579 00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:46,000 she's twenty five. Live story short. Now, I really explain to them 580 00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:51,480 about not being leaving, and there is things out there which I would never 581 00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:54,840 try to give a nightmare to a little kid. And that's like almost like 582 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,119 giving them a nightmare telling them, you know, there is monsters out here 583 00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:01,559 like this, this is a real thing, and that's why you shouldn't go 584 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:07,000 outside at night. You should stay in the house. You should be careful. 585 00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:09,440 We'll make sure the doors are locked, all of them things. I 586 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,320 went right as soon as that happened. First thing I did was make sure 587 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,440 everything was locked everywhere at my place because I've lived a mile and a half 588 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,119 away, and that was at that time, was at the top of my 589 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,280 conscience the whole time, the rest of the time that I lived in that 590 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,840 house. You live close, then, yeah, I lived a mile and 591 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:36,000 a half from there. Yeah, that's way too close for comfort. That's 592 00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:38,239 just a hop skipping to jump for a dog mean, no pun intended. 593 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,880 I've got another question for you from No More fun Land, and their question 594 00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:51,199 is have you had any other pureanormal experiences before the dogman encounter? You know, 595 00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:57,840 I've never had a crypto encounter in my whole life paranormal. One of 596 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,800 my friend's house was haunted. I spent the night there one night on a 597 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:07,119 Saturday night, and the rocket chair started rocking. That's about all the stuff 598 00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:10,800 that's ever happened to me before that. I never had thought about cryptids. 599 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,639 I never thought about other things out around you besides people that are dangerous enough. 600 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:21,360 But wow, anything like that I never thought about. It makes you 601 00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:25,519 really change everything of what you're kind of doing in a lot of sense. 602 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,400 Yes, it does. There is life before it dogged me in encounter, 603 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:36,039 in life after I get it. This next one up is from Jared the 604 00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:39,480 American, and he wants to know did you think it was evil and intended 605 00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:45,840 harm? I think that it could be evil. I don't think that it 606 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,840 is evil and that man anything walking around like that man's got to intend harm. 607 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,159 Now, whether that harm is to you or one of your four legged 608 00:49:54,440 --> 00:50:00,880 loved ones, that thing in that area, I mean, that's unreal. 609 00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:05,519 I mean it would be like capturing Bigfoot. If you caught the dog man 610 00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,800 and displayed him, you know what I'm saying, had a real one, 611 00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:13,559 that is, that would be the big time right there, that's that, 612 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:20,639 but I mean it's that crazy life changing. Yes, it would be. 613 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,639 That's a good way to sum it up. This next one up would be 614 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:30,320 from Andres Carazalees, and this question is are there any power lines or rivers 615 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:37,119 near where you were? Some animals use them as landmarkers to other places. 616 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:44,679 Nope, just the regular line going by right there. I guess that would 617 00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:50,440 be. That would be close to the pipeline. I guess that would be 618 00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:55,159 maybe a mile and a half something like that. Evil the other way to 619 00:50:55,239 --> 00:51:00,679 the pipeline. Here in Michigan, we had a couple of oil pipelines that 620 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,880 ran from up north all the way down and that would be within like a 621 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,840 mile or two of that. Yeah, pretty close to it. Then it 622 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:17,199 sounds like must have been. This next question up would be from Elaine Isabelle, 623 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,320 and Elaine's question is did you take pics of the prints on the car? 624 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:28,280 You know what? The next day in the morning, I was gonna 625 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,800 do that, but I took like two of them, and you couldn't really 626 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,840 see. You couldn't really get a good The car wasn't that dirt. It 627 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,280 was dirty enough, but it wasn't that dirty. Again. She always keeps 628 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,119 that car clean, but we drive it in the country, so it's washed. 629 00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:52,840 It wasn't washed that that night, and you could still see the difference 630 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,719 in the But yeah, when I took a picture of what you couldn't see 631 00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,039 it. Yeah, I'm surprised you remember to take a picture of the hood. 632 00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:04,960 You're doing good to know your own name, so you deserve credit for 633 00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,840 that. The next one up is from Michigan meat Eater, and he wants 634 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,039 to know, in your opinion, why did something so big, fast and 635 00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:16,559 smart even jump on your head in the first place. I believe that it 636 00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:22,400 was running parallel to the highway at like thirty five or forty miles per hour, 637 00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:25,920 and by the time that that thing crossed that area it hit my car, 638 00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:30,960 it was just doing thirty five miles. It's just like a regular car 639 00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:35,639 accident. I think it just ran into my car. I mean, that 640 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,280 thing was moving fast and it covered a lot of ground. In my mind 641 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:45,119 at that night, it covered a lot of ground. It was a good 642 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:52,960 ten yards that it covered right there about twenty yards around ten yards ten yards. 643 00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:58,519 It covered like eight of them, man, and like just like three 644 00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:04,719 steps, like I was talking three jumps. That thing was gone three three 645 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,119 jumps. Just imagine if you're running and one two three. I mean, 646 00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:13,800 it's not that much time. And being at night too, that I never 647 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,880 you know, you think about it if that would have happened during the day, 648 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:21,679 what why would that even have How could that even happen? But again 649 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,559 I was thinking he was already moving fast because when he hit our car, 650 00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:30,079 he was scooping. It wasn't like he ran up on the side of us 651 00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,039 and grabbed the hood. He hit the car from where we're driving. It 652 00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:37,280 ran into the front of the car and then had a chance when it when 653 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,159 we hit it, when it actually hit us or jumped on the car, 654 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:45,840 whatever you want to call it. It grabbed on and rode it and looked 655 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,360 at me and was like you ain't shit, oops are You're not nothing? 656 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,360 And yeah, I was just like, you got all my guys, and 657 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,920 it's crussed the hood in my car. I'm thinking, I mean, I 658 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,159 just felt it hit the front of the car so hard that you had to 659 00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:05,480 do something. Yeah, understandably, so that much weight hitting the car, 660 00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:08,239 you would expect to have a huge dent. But I don't know. Like 661 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,480 I said, sometimes people hit these guys on the highway in the car doesn't 662 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,039 suffer any damage. So it's really hard to explain. But that's not unprecedented. 663 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:22,159 It looks like Beverly Jagger has next question up and her question is, 664 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:29,400 or Jagger, do you have any nightmares after your encounter? Yeah? I 665 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,239 would right after the encounter, being at that house out in the country, 666 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,519 Uh what I would. Yeah. I haven't been able to really sleep right 667 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,480 since that. I mean, that's something you know, you don't think about, 668 00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:46,159 but really that that's happened with me, I don't know. I don't 669 00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:49,679 sleep all the way through the night. I wake up in the middle of 670 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,679 the night. Uh. I gotta have something around me when I'm sleeping, 671 00:54:54,320 --> 00:55:00,679 just in case anything happens, because that worries me. I mean that I 672 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,679 won't lay my head down and close my eyes without knowing that I'm safe, 673 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,320 And especially in that house at that time. My daughter would I told her 674 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,880 about it. Her mind. They would close all the windows in the window 675 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,639 shades to the house, and I like them open during the daytime. And 676 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,639 I mean, we lived so far in the country, nobody's gonna walk by 677 00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:24,360 and look into my windows were, you know, off of the road, 678 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:30,159 and they would close the windows all the time and close the shades all the 679 00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:35,239 time. And it really got on my nerves sometimes. But I could see 680 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,280 their point of view. But man, I didn't that really. I never 681 00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:44,559 that did bothered me. What bothered me is when I'm sleeping is when I 682 00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:46,840 bothered me. My dogs would wake up every now and then and they would 683 00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:52,199 start barking, and you think, man, there's that thing back there, 684 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:58,920 you know, you look around. It's something that at the time I lost 685 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,920 a lot of sleep over. Well, yeah, that's part for the course 686 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:07,159 when you have an encounters one of these things. So it's understandable do something. 687 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,760 Diff has a question for you. They want to know what size and 688 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,960 make of car was it? He said it was a BMW, But what 689 00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:17,719 model? Did you say? It? Once? It was a two thousand 690 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:27,199 and six BMW five thirty XI Winter Edition, Michigan Winter Edition, No Michigan 691 00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:31,400 But's Winter Edition. And it drove like a snowmobile on the snow. That 692 00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:37,400 car was wild and the snow beautiful. Agile but it's a bigger car. 693 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:43,199 It's not a small BMW. It's the mid size and all wheel drive, 694 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,880 great running car, but large. Story short, it's a bigger car. 695 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,599 So that's why I think it took a good hit. Plus that's a really 696 00:56:53,320 --> 00:57:00,679 solid car too, to you know, tad six coats of clear cold on 697 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:06,079 it. You know it was a really pretty car. Well, I bet 698 00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:09,840 it was. Yeah, I don't tell that. Michigan mediator wants to know. 699 00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:15,280 Did you ever go back and look for tracks or anything in the daylight? 700 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:21,320 No. What I find myself doing is what I do now is I'll 701 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:27,119 drive through there in the car or whatever, and I'll drive through there and 702 00:57:27,159 --> 00:57:31,880 look, I'll drive my motorcycle through there, which is kind of you think 703 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:37,159 I would never do that either, But that worries me a lot, but 704 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,599 it's fun. I think it's a fun you know, healer for me to 705 00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:45,119 be able to go through there and not worry about that like that. I 706 00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:47,840 do. I drive my bike through there now during the daytime. I don't 707 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,559 think i'd do that at night, for sure, I wouldn't at night, 708 00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:55,039 but during the daytime I'll drive through there. Well, if you're doing all 709 00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:59,000 those things and it sounds like you're dealing with it pretty well. That's a 710 00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:04,000 good thing. That's great. Be Kind wants to know prior to the encounter, 711 00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:07,480 talking about earlier in the day, did you have any odd feelings earlier 712 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:13,360 in the day, You know, I didn't. I had just got done 713 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,920 letting the dogs out to go to the bathroom. I had just walked around 714 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:23,039 in the field, you know. I prayed with my daughter and we bounced, 715 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,800 you know, finish the night off, riding around, doing the rest 716 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,400 of the stuff we had to do. And No, I didn't feel anything 717 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:36,800 during before that. It was like a perfectly normal day. Well, sometimes 718 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,159 I witnesses feel something before they have an encounter, sometimes they don't, So 719 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,400 there really is no rhyme nor reason. Nope. The next one up is 720 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,159 from Elaine Isabelle, and Elaine wants to know if this happened in twenty twelve, 721 00:58:50,519 --> 00:58:54,880 why are you now just coming out with your encounter. See, this 722 00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:02,480 is the weird thing. I never told anybody about that, or besides the 723 00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:08,960 my my ex wife, I never had really told. I told my mom 724 00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:15,559 about it, I told one of my sisters about it, and that was 725 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:20,800 about it. Because it's what would you say if your friend said that he's 726 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,840 seen, you know, a dog man. They'd be like what. I 727 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,360 never had even heard of anything like that, never was interested in nothing like 728 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:34,000 that. That when it went on my radar, when that happened to me. 729 00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:38,440 After that, I investigated that thing and I started learning about it, 730 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:45,360 which made me start to understand. You know that that area in eighteen ninety 731 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:50,519 or something in that area, on that same type of spot right there next 732 00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:54,039 when they're putting that highway and all that stuff. Before all of that stuff, 733 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,559 it was just like a two way road right there. But that has 734 00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:06,000 been the ain't route for from Detroit to Grand Rapids and Lancing. Guy that 735 01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:08,280 one road and it takes you all the way, you know, across the 736 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:13,599 state. I'll bet you more people than you'd believe if that encounters with that 737 01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:17,239 guy. I'll bet you they have, they just haven't told you. This 738 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:22,039 next one up is from Robert Spencer, and Robert wants to know is there 739 01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:28,679 a water source and are there caves nearby? There? There is a there 740 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,559 is a water source out there that. Yeah, there is a water source 741 01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:37,320 out there. There's a there's a few little water sources out there, and 742 01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:43,320 uh, are there caves? Nearby. You know what, I just started 743 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:49,719 learning about caves myself as I'm starting to investigate this. Uh, caves are 744 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:54,519 something that's a very you know that that could be a definite possibility. Yeah, 745 01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:58,800 they do seem to like caves, so that's a good question. It 746 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,320 is then, of course moving water that's a requirement for them as well. 747 01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:07,480 This next one up is from Marnie Clifford, and Marnie wants to know did 748 01:01:07,519 --> 01:01:12,880 you move to a different house because of your encounter? Oh? Yeah, 749 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:22,239 we did, yeh, yeh. Because of that encounter. My wife at 750 01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:25,599 the time never took that road again. She never wanted to go back down 751 01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:31,920 that road again. She went to another another way. And yeah, my 752 01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:37,360 daughters didn't like that because they knew what I was telling them too. They 753 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:43,800 would listen and like she had told them about it. She didn't talk to 754 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,400 anybody else, but I believe she told me, at least my youngest daughter. 755 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:51,360 She told because if we don't want them walking around, you know, 756 01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:53,840 out there, that's what that would be. That's one of the main ways. 757 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:59,239 There's only three bridges in that area, so it'd be one of the 758 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:04,119 three bridges roads that you beyond to cross the bridge. You know, so 759 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,320 a lot of cars drive down and through there, not a lot, but 760 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:12,199 you know, sizeable compared to other roads. Sure sounds to me like that 761 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,719 encounter really shut your wife down. That's too bad. I've got another is 762 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:22,400 actually a comment from Joyce Stone, and she wants to make sure that you 763 01:02:22,519 --> 01:02:27,039 understand. Wanted to put this message out to you since it was so close 764 01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:30,519 to where you live. Play pay close attention to any strange encounters like the 765 01:02:30,599 --> 01:02:34,599 hero is standing up on the back of your neck. That may save your 766 01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:43,920 life. Yeah, yeah, for sure being a being in that area again, 767 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,360 I don't I don't go through that area at night. I try to 768 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:52,199 have to go through it by myself. I'm not scared to drive through there. 769 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,760 You acounterate, you acounterate. That was a one time thing for me. 770 01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:00,039 I had never even thought about anything like that, and that if it 771 01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:04,519 wasn't for it what it did, I would I would have never seen it 772 01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:07,960 that night. I would never even knew about none of them things. I 773 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,840 didn't even I didn't want to investigate that stuff until I moved out of that 774 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,559 house because the stuff that I was hearing was like Wow, I wouldn't go 775 01:03:17,679 --> 01:03:22,360 out of my yard. I really pay more attention. I'd pay attention in 776 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,840 my camera system. Everything I started paying more attention to because of that when 777 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,039 I was there. Yeah, after you move to a different house, at 778 01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:34,239 least you could get some distance between you and that area after you're done looking 779 01:03:34,239 --> 01:03:38,760 around there. So I get it. I do. Captain McLeod wants to 780 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,760 know. Do you think it was hunting you in your car, trying to 781 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,719 simply run you down? You know? I think again that it was. 782 01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:53,000 It was already running at that speed, and I think it where it came 783 01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:59,960 out at. Would it be a close area to follow the bridge or the 784 01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:03,519 right there is the highway, and I believe that it was running next to 785 01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:09,079 the highway doing well. Who lord knows when something like that could go. 786 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:15,440 But that thing was moving at least thirty five when it was moving. When 787 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,400 it it was on the hood of a car driving sixty miles per hour, 788 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:25,880 ran into the car, weight went onto the car. We slammed on the 789 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,880 brakes and then hit it, and then she like let off for a second 790 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,519 and looked at me, and I was like go and she hit the rest 791 01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:38,679 of the brakes, and that that was we were gonna kill that thing. 792 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,840 I mean, what would you think. I definitely I thought that thing left 793 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,840 marks on my car. It was humongous. All its weight was on there 794 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,280 because we were moving. It was on the hood of the car. Granted 795 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,199 we were coming to a stop, but we were doing sixty one. This 796 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,440 thing hit us on our cruise control. Yeah, you would expect a lot 797 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,519 of damage. But like I said, sometimes people hit these things and you'd 798 01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:04,679 expect a ton of damage, but none is left to be found. It's 799 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:09,280 just so hard to wrap your mind around it, really is. I've got 800 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,679 another one for you from David Why And David wants to know did he know 801 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:19,079 about dog men before his encounter. No, I never knew about anything like 802 01:05:19,159 --> 01:05:26,440 that. Never even thought about it that that's something that had Just after that. 803 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,199 I knew about that. But after that I looked up on Google. 804 01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:35,639 I put that in there dog man on Google, and first couple of times 805 01:05:35,639 --> 01:05:41,480 I put it in there, put the story up about because I put keywords, 806 01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:44,920 you know, the town thing, dog man. You put it over 807 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:49,039 and over different orders and you'll get different stuff. You know. At that 808 01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:55,280 time, that's what had happened. I had read a story from eighteen ninety 809 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,719 about some guys that were doing some logging in that area, and that it 810 01:05:59,719 --> 01:06:03,280 had its down to shut down their logging thing. And it made you, 811 01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:08,519 it made you think, I mean, this shappened back then, and then 812 01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:12,840 I hadn't heard anything about anything, so I mean I never told anybody. 813 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,199 I felt embarrassed. Almost you could ridicule somebody and make fun of them, 814 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,679 you know, and everybody. I had mentioned it to a couple of people 815 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:26,400 and they started laughing at me, and I'm like, yeah, that's something 816 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,679 to laugh about. Yeah, people can be awful about things like that, 817 01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:35,400 anything that's outside of their belief system. Unfortunately, they can be pretty cruel. 818 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:41,239 But I know you already know about that. Oh yeah, got another 819 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,920 one for you from xstas, and their question is how often do you think 820 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:51,960 about your encounter at the time, well at night? Well back then, 821 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,840 right after it happened. I did a chunk of investigating on it, and 822 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,360 I came up with a couple of answers. I kind of understood what had 823 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,559 been going on, and then I just stopped looking into it. I haven't 824 01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:10,079 looked into it. I haven't. I tried not to think about it up 825 01:07:10,159 --> 01:07:14,679 until I was going through Facebook. I've been on Facebook since the ninety nine. 826 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,400 I just went back on and they got you know, this is here. 827 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:24,400 I haven't been on Facebook for shoot since ninety nine, and there's the 828 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:30,320 twenty twenty four. But yeah, as soon as I got back on there, 829 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,360 man, people were talking about there's groups and there and there's you know. 830 01:07:33,519 --> 01:07:38,639 So that's how I'm where I'm at today. Yeah, you've got a 831 01:07:38,639 --> 01:07:41,679 lot of help. A lot of resources are out there now. Yeah, 832 01:07:41,679 --> 01:07:45,000 imagine having an encounter back in the eighties and all the resources were really few 833 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,440 and far between, almost not existing. So if you have to have an 834 01:07:48,519 --> 01:07:53,079 encounter, it's much better to have one today then it was back then. 835 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,119 No arguing that fact. I'm going to ask you one last question from the 836 01:07:58,159 --> 01:08:01,559 live chat, Patrick, and this one is from Lisa Layman. Lise wants 837 01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:05,639 to know, as Patrick concerned that the dog man may have his scent because 838 01:08:05,639 --> 01:08:10,960 it happened so close to your home. You know that that that was a 839 01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:14,920 big h that was a big thing back then. That's kind of the reason 840 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,399 why that I had moved out, because that's exactly what I was thinking. 841 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,800 I challenged that thing. When I did that, I challenged it. It 842 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:29,159 knew it knew I don't know if it knows what guns are or whatever. 843 01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:32,319 I mean, they're smart animals. I don't know if that if it knew 844 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,720 that that's a gun that I'm pointing at it, or I don't know them 845 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:42,600 things. Uh, but I believe it did. And that's what I was 846 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,720 worried about. After that it happened. I thought to myself, Man, 847 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:50,439 what if I walk my dogs out one day and my alpha was pointing back 848 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,640 in the house and it wasn't raining, it was it was a nice beautiful 849 01:08:54,680 --> 01:09:00,680 summer night, and he just didn't want to go outside. And I and 850 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,319 there's nothing quiet as can be, and you know, you hear that dead 851 01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:10,600 quiet, and you know, man, there's something going on. You know 852 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,039 that don't feel right. And I brought my dogs in. That was the 853 01:09:15,039 --> 01:09:19,039 first times that right. I mean, immediately after that happened. That was 854 01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:25,359 like the first thing that I started thinking about. And when I took them 855 01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:29,079 for walks, I had that thing ready to go, just you know, 856 01:09:30,199 --> 01:09:33,159 I had it ready to go, because you don't never know when you're walking 857 01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:36,600 out here. I mean again, my dogs are big dogs. They would 858 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:41,159 have killed for me if you if you that thing would have jumped on me. 859 01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:44,319 Them things that my dogs would have killed them. And that's a lot 860 01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:47,439 of the reason why I wasn't too worried about walking the dogs around out there. 861 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,159 Plus I had the same thing all the time walking out there that I 862 01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:57,680 did in the car, and you know, but by myself walking around there 863 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,159 when when I you know, yeah, it's scary, Yes, it would 864 01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:05,199 be. You have an experience like that, you find out with your own 865 01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:09,319 two eyes what's lurking there in the dark or could be out there in the 866 01:10:09,399 --> 01:10:14,000 dark. It is frightening, it is scary, So I get it well. 867 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,000 Having said that, Patrick, I can't thank you enough for coming on 868 01:10:16,079 --> 01:10:19,760 and sharing the details of that experience with us. I really appreciate it. 869 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:27,760 Thank you for having me on, and thank you for teaching different people about 870 01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:31,000 different situations that people have been in. That way, they don't make the 871 01:10:31,119 --> 01:10:35,439 same mistakes that they could get you in a situation like that, you know, 872 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:40,640 like driving somewhere and not putting gas in your car and you live in 873 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,560 the country, don't be that person that run out of gas at night in 874 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,439 your car on a country, lonely country road. That's a dangerous spot right 875 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:53,039 there. Yeah, not the kind of spot you want to find yourself in 876 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:58,520 no doubt about that. Yeah. Yeah, Well, like I said, 877 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,560 thanks again so much for your time. I'm Patrick in If I can ever 878 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,119 help you, please let me know. All right, sounds good, Thanks 879 01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:10,079 for having me. Well you're welcome, have a great night. Well that's 880 01:11:10,119 --> 01:11:13,319 another one wrapped up. Before we get out of here. I want to 881 01:11:13,359 --> 01:11:16,319 thank you so much for tuning in and listening as always, And if you've 882 01:11:16,319 --> 01:11:19,960 had a dogman encounter of your own and would like to speak with me about 883 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,840 it in private, or if you'd like to be a guest on the show, 884 01:11:24,319 --> 01:11:28,760 all you'd need to do is to go to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit 885 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,920 a report. If you do that, then I'd be more than happy to 886 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,199 schedule a film conversation with you so we could have a good talk about your 887 01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:41,520 experience or experiences as it sometimes happens. If you've had a sasquatch sighting and 888 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,039 we'd like to be a guest on either of my two Bigfoot podcasts, all 889 01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:49,119 you would need to do would be to go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com 890 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:54,960 let me know and I'll be in contact with you. But having said that, 891 01:11:55,359 --> 01:11:58,920 like I said, thanks again so much for listening in hope. Everyone 892 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:16,159 has a great nights.