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Well Whiskey coming fame by Paine's Brains
Don't let Me Go. From Powerline blog

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dot com and produced by Ricochet dot
Com. This is the Three Whiskey Happy

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Hour with your bartenders Steve Hayward,
John You and Powerlines International Woman of Mystery

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Lucretia's gotta give me and let that
whiskey blow where you're being in love down

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and Lowell. Welcome everybody to another
episode of the Three Whiskey Happy Hour.

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I'm joined by I'm John You,
and I'm joined by my partners in crime,

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which has new meaning with the Trump
indictment, which we will talk about

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shortly. And I'm joined by Steve
Hayward Word and Lucretia, the International Woman

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of Mystery. Say Hi everybody,
and my John. Hi John, It's

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wonderful to see you. And as
usual, so one old tradition we're going

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to keep up and then we have
a new tradition for everybody today. So

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the old tradition is what are you
guys drinking today? Ah? Well,

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you know I've got a nasty bug
again. It's kept me in. I

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don't know, I keep getting you
know, I had I didn't get sick

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at all for during the whole COVID
two and a half years, and now

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I'm getting one bug after another,
and so I'm just having Lefroig because it's

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going to help me get through all
this. However, the keys will anything

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you have will die die under the
rivers of Lefroig going down your throat.

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Well true, but because it's not
only Easter weekend but also passover. Right,

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I do have a bit of whiskey
news. The twenty twenty three World

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Whiskey Awards were just handed out here
recently, and the number one single malt

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was called Let's see if I got
the title right, it's it is rarely

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whiskey no by some company called M
and H. Used to stand for Milton

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Honey, but and and they aged
and sherry casts kosher sherry casts from Spain.

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And anyway, it's uh sixty five
dollars a bottle if you can find

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it. I'm still trying to find
the name here. It made us be

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M and H. I'm not sure
that's got to be a first. Yeah,

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M and H elements, that's the
name of it. And yeah,

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and it's who knew that? The
so Lakhan to our Jewish friends observing passover

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with the best of whiskey in the
world. So wow, that's cool,

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Lucretia. I in honor of my
friend Lances Zumi who Steve and I know,

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yeah, okay everybody specific research institute. Yeah, yes, he was

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here on my turf this past week, and so uh, in honor of

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Lance, I'm drinking sun Tory hippie
Japanese harmony whiskey. I've had that.

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That's very good, very good.
Although our friend Lance doesn't drink it.

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He finds the stuff vile, even
though he's an expert on the subject.

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Vile. It's character less usually in
too smooth. No, no, all

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whiskey, in fact, all whiskey. Yeah, no, he doesn't drink

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and I mean, but he is
an expert, I mean, a renowned

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expert in whiskey. I don't even
know how that works. But including Johnny

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tells a fabulous story about how when
World War two broke out, there was,

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as it often is, an ours
some nativism, a nativist sentiments in

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Japan to end the drinking of whiskey
because he knows the British and horrible people,

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and it was the Japanese Admiralty that
said, no, actually, we

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want to keep whiskey available for our
sailors was very sensible of them. So

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well, they didn't need to have
very much for very long given how World

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War two went. They're the Japanese
name, so I'm having I'm still working

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now on my one and a half
Leader Kirkland brand bottle of Kentucky Straite Bourbon

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whiskey, which is made by Barton
Distilleries. Barton says it goes back to

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seventeen ninety two, but God's going
to take me weeks and weeks to get

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through this amount of bourbon. But
I'm doing my best these days. It's

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not as hard as you think.
And now listeners also just to let you

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know what the new tradition is going
to be, which we'll say for the

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end of the show, which is
we're going to have a semi permanent philosophy

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corner segment where we are going to
ask our resident to philosophers to what political

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theory question is on their mind these
days, and devote a little bit of

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time to make sure we don't forget
the origins of this podcast, which was

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Lucretia's schooling Steve on the finer points
of Strauss and Jaffa and Western philosophical tradition,

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so that's guaranteed to drive a But
in the meantime, John, in

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the meantime, to start us off
on the right foot, I am going

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to brag once again about being not
only a Tesla solar system for the house

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and a Tesla charger, but a
Tesla charger that serves my Tesla model s

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The reason I'm so proud of it
is not because I'm a greeny, not

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because I give a damn about the
environment or the climate change. But I

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am so proud to have supported Elon
Musk. Did you hear what he did?

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He called he designated for Twitter,
He designated NPR, a state affiliated

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media. They are having true an
infantile temper tantrum breakdown over there, but

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over the whole thing real, which
is just wonderful. Oh yeah, oh

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yeah. They're doing by the government. Well, they're doing the usual above

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talking point. We only get one
percent of our funding from the federal from

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it, which it don't take any
If it's exactly the problem, You're to

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give it up, will you?
Although I mean the NPR story I followed

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this week or last week was they
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are way down. All they talk
about is the stupidest things. Well,

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yes, but I understand something that
that for NPR, CNN, CBS News,

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they all desperately want Trump to be
president again because it's good for business.

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They won't admit that to you,
but it's true. Anyway, they

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laid off a hundred people. They
had a Zoom meeting with this funneled employees

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being laid off were yelling and screaming, and the CEO said, can we

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please keep this conversation civil? And
then someone gave the typical college talking point,

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which is civility is a tool of
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Anyway, my first toast is to
Elon Musk because whatever else you know,

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the whole story is, it's just
great anyway you look at it,

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right, right, right, right. What do you got for us this

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week? John? Okay? Well, anything going on this week? It

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seemed like a quiet newsweek. But
of course we've got to start the podcast

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episode off by talking about the Trump
indictment. Just briefly, for those of

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you who have been living in a
cave in Antarctica, there was an indictment

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of President Trump for the first time
not of President Trump, but first time

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in American history a former president was
charged with a crime. And in this

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case, the District Attorney for New
York City, Alvin Bragg, elected by

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the residents of New York City to
about a year and a half ago,

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and he charged President Trump with a
misdemeanor thirty four misdemeanors for misrepresenting his effort

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to pay Stormy Daniels one hundred and
thirty thousand dollars for a non disclosure agreement.

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But he turned it into a felony
by claiming that this book keeping miss

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representation was an aid to cover up
some other crime. Problem is if you

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read the indictment, and I did, Unfortunately every thirty four times brag make

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this made this charge. He did
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and refused at the press conference this
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guys, what do you make of
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the legality of Oh, go ahead, I'm just gonna say I live.

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I really listened to I listened to
our podcast today as I was driving somewhere

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from last week, and both of
you said, I'm not I'm not trying,

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I'm not trying. This isn't a
got you, but it really isn't.

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But both of you said that you
believed if if Brag actually brought an

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indictment on what we're at the time
believed to be probably spurious charges with all

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of the political, constitutional traditional issues
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that a higher court would step in
and do the responsible thing. And I

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didn't challenge you. I shouldn't say
it like that. I didn't even ask

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you, guys at the time,
how would that work? What would be

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I mean? Would Trump have to
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a legal mechanism to appeal an indictment, is there? Well? Can I

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to ask for the case to be
dismissed? Sorry, go ahead, Steve,

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that's the question. Let me give
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this peculiar business. And since you
actually know the law, you can tell

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me if I'm on the right track
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had specified a federal crime, you
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was thought, you'd have an instant
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out. By not specifying, I'm
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speaking, right about this in either
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crime, what are you appeeling the
federal There's no federal question yet, is

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there. I mean, it's it's
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not a certain way I think.
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all the state claims and he's trying
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federal courts. Although you can drive
why it might still work. So what

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do you think, Well, Steve, you've failed the bar. That's why

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I said. People right, it's
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back to the founding and federalism is
that, um, the founding fathers did

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not want people to be able to
start a case in state court and then

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to have it dragged immediately over to
federal court on appeal. So it's very

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interesting. This is actually called the
Madisonian compromise because there were states rights people

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who didn't want to have any federal
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kind of nationalists like Madison and Hamilton
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So they basically left it up to
the first Congress to decide, and

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so the first Congress and then we've
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once you pick whether it's state court
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for most cases you have to go
all the way up that system because they

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didn't want federal judges sort of watching
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So Trump does have an avenue,
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the federal court system. In fact, the main way he does it is

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he has to go from he has
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you know, when you make a
claim that the law doesn't provide for

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his prosecution. He said he could
say, even if everything you say is

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true, factually there's no law of
which I'm guilty, and then he can

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ask the judge here, the child
judge, to make a rulling on that

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right away, and then he could. He didn't not yet, He's going

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to do it by the end of
the summer. I think he has the

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right. You know, the judge
and the lawyers come up with what we

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call briefing schedule, you know,
the timing of when you're allowed to make

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certain objections and claims. Then that
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York Court of Appeals, the sprint
New York what they called the Court of

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a strangely they don't call the Supreme
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there, right, Yeah, that's
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As they got to court these quarter
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could go to the US Supreme Court. Now that might be the New York

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to our Supreme to the US Supreme
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jump from the state system to the
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aside from a criminal case. So
Lucretia's right that what's really vitally important

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is when does Trump get his hearing
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are these charges are a flimsy the
facts don't bear it out in some one

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The other thing, actually, Steve's
point does actually bear on a different constitutional

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issue Trump has at his disposal,
which is prosecutors. You're right, you

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could say, oh, Bragg's being
tricky here, not you know, showing

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his hand too early. But that's
unconstitutional because a sixth Amendments says you have

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to be fully informed of the charges
against you. And actually there are some

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cases going all the way back to
this case called Crukshank right after this yeah

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or yeah, where the courts said
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You've got to actually have more description
in your indictment of what the person

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actually did. And because you have
to be put on notice to be able

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to put on a defense, otherwise
how to keep it on a real defense?

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So actually Bragg, I don't think
Bragg's trying to be tricky. I

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think they can't figure out what to
charge him with, and so it's terribly

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embarrassing. It may well be that
Trump even wins just on that that the

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indictment doesn't tell him enough about the
crime. But they how far up.

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I don't know anything about the New
York a Pellet judicial system or who's in

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it, or how biased it is. It's obvious that this judge is very

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biased. But above that, I
don't have any idea how far if you

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guys have any notion of what the
rest of the appellate system in New York

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looks like? Are there any decent
judges? Are there any? So it

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is an elected judiciary And you might
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there was a story I think about
two months ago where if you remember the

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governor, Governor Hokel tried to nominate
someone to the state highest court and he

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was rejected for being too moderate by
the state Assembly. So it probably gives

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you an idea what the tenor of
the judiciaries. But the other pointing,

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it's an elected judiciary, and oh
goody, So when did that has always

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been? I mean that seems to
be more of a progressive it is,

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it is a progressive well actually,
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original. Did they change the system? I think, I believe now it's

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almost three quarters of the states now
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think I got a double check.
I thought. What happened is most of

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the states did not until Jackson,
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Andrew Jackson. And after Jackson,
a lot of western states added it,

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and then it just kind of swept
the country. Yeah, I mean California

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system, of course, is you're
appointed by the governor, confirmed for a

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term, and then face confirmation elections. And that's how Rose Bird was tossed

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out in nineteen eighty six. It's
very rare that that's exercise, but it

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has happened sometimes and three others,
two others, two others. Right,

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just I'm just looked it up.
I correct myself. So the judge of

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the Supreme Court New York is called
the Court of Appeals. Those are done

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and then those are not elected.
Those are done by the but the what

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they call the Supreme Court of the
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don't know why that's those are elected, those are those are those are run

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by elections. So that that so
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right, what's like California, We
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lower levels, right than you know
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Okay are you so anyway, so
before you what do you go, Lucisia,

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Let's start with you. What do
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even more part of the politics of
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I think it bears repeating. The
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and and abysmal. But I'm I'm
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picture. Which is, we have
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States cares about equality before the law, about the rule of law, I

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mean. And the worst part of
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hypocritical comments by people on the left, No one is above the law.

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Well, of course we know that's
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Nancy Pelosi's above the law, her
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you go on and on and on
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being above the law, and I
fuzz above the law. But the real

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point is is that how much across
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of us. Others are looking at
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States has now descended into Chiquita Banana
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I saw something that we have joined
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political opponent, that the opposition,
that the ruling party has indicted the someone

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from the opposition. You know,
that's the stuff they do in places like

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Venezuela and now Brazil, and you
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you could go on and on.
That's the problem. And there were some

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really interesting comments actually last time,
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pose the question what's the right thing
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DA's across the country should go after
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and I don't know that I do, But that means that we have

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given up on our constitutional system.
We have given up on what I think,

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in many ways is a legal constitutional
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of the world and made us the
great country that we are. That's equality

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before the law. The law is
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the whole idea of the fourteenth Amendment, the whole idea of juries of

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your peers, all of those things
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our judicial systems to assure that you
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this is just such an egregious violation
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there's any coming back from it,
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of the world. And I mean
one Williams. One Williams got kicked off

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of NPR and just shows you how
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vile human being. Oh, it's
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who had an affair with Stormy Daniels. So it's baseball stuff like that.

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I'll be quiet, Steve, go
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going to anything, John, except
lucretia has provoked me. I think the

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shorter lucretia is America no longer exceptional
if we accept this. I actually think

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that, in an ironic way,
maybe the left has done us a favor

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by making it so explicit, because
I don't think this is brand new.

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Some of my data points go all
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persecuted Samuel Imsol, a name entirely
forgotten in the world. He was the

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head of what became con Edison,
and Roosevelt hounded that guy, put him

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on trial, and he was acquitted
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that's a great story, but that
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right, Andrew mellen that's right,
and investigating Black, Oh yes,

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comrade Black. And then Michael Milcomb
people have forgotten from the eighties. I

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got to meet him once and talked
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a boy, what a smart guy, obviously, but He was very candid

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about how you know, he coughed
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That was real money even in the
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know what he told me. Anybody
also said this publicly. It's not secret

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knowledge. He said, I was
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the crimes the federal government charged me
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to prevail a trial, but it
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lot of money. He was easier
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for eighteen months. Okay, that
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guy. Watch for the Biden administration
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back to this. We talk about
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I you know. So the point
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say, oh, yeah, this
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they do. Maybe now we can
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what's happened to our justice system.
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the matter. Let me ask you, I think this is interesting. We're

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not alone. A lot of people, even on the Trump hating left or

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even on the Trump painting right criticized
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comments by Mitt Romney and Jeff Bush
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friends, I'm sorry. Even Ian
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said this is a defective prosecution.
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left but not a lot of left
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the tiniest bit of courage on their
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the world. And how do you
not have that courage? Oh? Sorry

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to laugh at no, but I'm
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politician on the left and many of
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despicable excuses for human beings. They
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they have nothing to recommend themselves.
I mean, that's a horrible position

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that we're in. If that's the
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I'm the way who argues that's the
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it, But every now and then
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little hope, and there's just not. Well I miss Pat moynahan speaking of

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whiskey drinkers. Okay, sorry,
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other way like Tulsea Gabbard, or
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you know, all of that kind
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a pretty pivotal moment to me,
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courage on the part of the left
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and this can be turned against us. They probably just all think that Republicans

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are the pussies that they are and
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ask you about the political impact of
the indictment. I've seen people speculate on

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in various places that this actually has
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tweets from people in the media when
the indictment came out saying Trump has just

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won the Republican primary for twenty twenty
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the general election. Do you think
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it will depend how this plays out, because it seems like it's too early

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for that. You what do you
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the summer, when Republican presidential debates
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or when the primaries start next winter. Now maybe, but that's when

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all of this is going to come
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mean we'll see. That's that's that's
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are in is in January. Well
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maybe it works out. It is, right, Steve, I'm giving you

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facts, not a period. Yeah, I love you have facts about the

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future. Okay, I'll just file
that. Well that's I mean, that's

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what they planned. Well okay,
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Either the first hearing I think is
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I think they you know, if
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to start courtroom activity and mark about
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year from now. But what do
you but do you think about that?

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Do you think that this will have
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of the primaries or I think by
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question is, and this is what
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but this will because here's here's the
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disaster. You know, Joe Kennedy, I get it, We're not what's

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his not joking? Yeah? Right? They all they're all the same to

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me. But anyway, except he
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say, he's got some lucretia like
views. Oh that's a more complicated anyway.

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Um, but here it's it's the
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middle, it's the middle. What
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Are they going to take you know
CNN's uh version of this story that you

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know, this is just one more
evidence of Trump that corrupt whatever and refused

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to vote for him or you know, that's what that's what the Democrats,

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that's what political came out and said, Um, that's what they're counting on.

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I'm not entirely convinced because you know, what we're not talking about right

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now are all of Trump's what shall
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I guess is the best way to
put it. His his weaknesses, his

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his liabilities. We're talking about the
fact that he personifies the little man against

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the state as a big man.
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that backfire. You're right, Well, here's where I think Democrats may have

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miscalculated, which is, I mean, we know about Trump's self regard and

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in discipline. Look, what are
what are Americans upset about right now.

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They don't like inflation, they don't
like, you know, go down.

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The last prices are going to go
through the right now. But if Trump

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is making the campaign about himself and
how he's been shabily treated and how the

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twenty twenty election was stolen, I
think that doesn't we're I mean, the

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faithfood will go along with that,
because I say, damn right. But

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I think that what a lot of
your swing voters want to hear, and

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a lot of Republican primary vers want
to hear, is what's the problem.

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What are you going to do to
fix it and change it? And that's

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where a clever opposition to him,
whether it's de Santis or someone else,

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can exploit that that's not automatic.
But it seems to me that Democrats may

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have been too clever by three halves. I would give Trump more credit though

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here for the fact that he didn't
necessarily address those things directly in his speech

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at Marilaga the other day is not
indicative of what he might do on the

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campaign trail. He had to.
He had to outline the corruption of the

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government cases against him in that speech. He had no choice. But I

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do think he'll have a positive message
going forward, and I think that's where

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they really have screwed up. I
think he did. I think he did

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play it right in New York City. You know. I think that Democrats

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were hoping he would come out on
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another riot. But actually he acted
somber and dignified, and he was kind

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of like he was the martyr.
And so I think he did well for

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himself in New York City. Don't
know about his speech and mar Lago,

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but to be continued, this is
actually go Our next topic actually picks up

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on Lucretia's comment about soccer moms,
because we've got we had Otherwise these would

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beat top stories if it weren't for
the Trump indictment. We had two elections

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this week, and in both I
don't know, it looks like the soccer

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moms are slipping away from the Republican
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the favorite of the Chicago Teachers Union, in fact, a former official of

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the Chicago Teachers Union, defeated Paul
Vallas. Both are Democrats, but Vallis

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had run and had been head in
the polling, but had run on a

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pro public safety platform, increasing spending
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I think a tougher line with the
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the problem is we have too many
police and that we need to fund more

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social programs. That's the first data
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I apologize in advance. I am
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name Wisconsin that we had, Yes, we had an election for Supreme Court

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seat in Wisconsin on a court that
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winner, Judge Jennett Protests which one
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I was significantly what was the percent? Why? Ten points? How

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many of those were purchased with the
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cards? Hold that for a moment. Was she made the election about abortion

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basic, about abortion, about overturning
Scott Walkers public union reforms essentially, and

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about over turning the last district map
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and Wisconsin. She won a resounding
victory, and normally no one would care

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right about a state Supreme Court race
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and Democrats really focused on this election, poured a lot of money into it.

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So let's start lucretia this time.
Does this actually show that liberals are

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back on the upswing, that maybe
the twenty twenty two mid terms we're not

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disappointing because of Trump's intervention, but
actually the electorate is actually becoming more liberal

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or more democrat. I don't think
there's any doubt that in Wisconsin and Chicago

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that's probably the case. I don't
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whole country. I you know,
I don't understand. I have no comment

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on how pey book can be so
damn stupid. I really don't. Can

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we do Chicago first, John,
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So first of all, and Brandon
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That is shocking. Second, Brandy, oh god is he's an articulate

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moron. He can't get a sins
out? Sorry, okay, But the

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other thing is Brandon Johnson. What
part of Let's go Brandon? The Chicago

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voters not understand. But here's the
third thing. So you know, you

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mentioned I think John that vallis Paul
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yes, solid five points. Yes, I actually think those polls were correct,

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except it was a low turnout election. The turnout model from the posters

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was wrong. It was a thirty
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But but like school board elections,
why do we have these? By

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the way, what does the left
talk about elections voters suppression? Why do

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we elect school boards in New York
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of off years. Why are we
electing the mayor of Chicago here in April

407
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.480
of an off year Because you won't
get if you In other words, if

408
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.240
you'd have this mayor's election attached to
a general election, I'm pretty sure Vallis

409
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:07.240
would have won. That's not gonna
say that this isn't a disaster. M

410
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.480
No, I think it is correct. I think no. I don't disagree

411
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:14.599
with you. At the same time, that's the I'd like to think that

412
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.359
the stupid voters are the ones showing
up at the polls, right if they're

413
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:23.359
voting for those people. Remember also
that in the case of the Wisconsin judicial

414
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:30.559
election, eighteen percent of that woman's
money came from inside of Wisconsin. And

415
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:37.759
the rustin outside, and nineteen percent
of the what's his name, Vallas's money

416
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:45.680
came from outside. So you had
huge amounts of money targeting the stupidest voters

417
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:50.680
in Wisconsin and getting them to the
polls with the stupidest kinds of incentives.

418
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.559
But the point when you have a
low I mean, school board elections in

419
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:58.119
LA and New York often get less
than fifteen percent turnout of eligible voters.

420
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:02.279
Those fifteen percent, I'll bet fourteen
percent or fourteen or that fifteen percent our

421
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:06.839
teachers union members. That's on purpose. Where is everybody else? Why are

422
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.039
they so dumb? Why aren't they
voting? Well? Because you know here,

423
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.880
No, we don't. Well,
actually they don't. They don't.

424
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.079
I mean, they don't well,
I don't know. You know, John

425
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:21.359
and I were in conversation here three
weeks ago, You'll know who I'm talking

426
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:25.279
about, John, with someone who
is a significant real estate investor, developer,

427
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:30.119
office space person in Chicago and other
cities, and he was saying,

428
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.960
I don't know that Chicago can survive
the mayorship of Brandon Johnson. I'm gonna

429
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:36.319
want to check in with him and
see if he's leaving, like so many

430
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:42.440
people are now Wisconsin similar story.
Although one of these interesting things about Wisconsin

431
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:49.079
is um there were several other ballot
measures on One of them was an advisory

432
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.759
vote. Should there pretty advisory there
no law attached to it. Should there

433
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:59.440
be work requirements for people who were
on welfare? It got eighty percent eight

434
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:04.680
zero yes vote. There are a
couple of others. There was there a

435
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.199
couple of soft on crime measures that
voters rejected handily, you know, you

436
00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:10.079
know, no bail and some of
those sorts of things. So the point

437
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:15.119
is this is a little bit like
California, where conservative ballot measures have often

438
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.119
done much better than the Republican Party
has done going back forty years. Now,

439
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:23.039
this is junction between opinion and how
people vote for individuals and certain other

440
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:29.119
things is you know, annoying and
frustrating and hard to understand, and but

441
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.920
we still see that. But then
the final data point, though, is

442
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:37.360
is that a very solid Republican district
had a special election. The Republican won,

443
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.079
but just barely in a district that
ought to be a layup. And

444
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:45.639
so Wisconsin's very worrying. This is
a state, This is a state that

445
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:51.400
seven years ago voted for Donald Trump. Yes, and the years before that

446
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:57.039
put Scott Walker right. So in
Lucretia's explanation, there's some truth to these

447
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:02.639
already liberal places Wisconsin and Cargo.
Their population doesn't care they or they agree

448
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:08.320
with these policies. But Wisconsin at
least wasn't so liberal so long ago.

449
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:14.679
Well it was and it wasn't.
Yeah, And I think John at when

450
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:17.320
you write your book that you mentioned
last week that why are Asians so stupid?

451
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.960
I'm going to follow on with the
sequel, which is why our voters

452
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.360
so damn stupid. I think someone's
written that one. Someone's got to have

453
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:32.840
written that one several people, and
you know, I hate no actually,

454
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.360
I mean, look, I know
the rational choice people who oh god,

455
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:43.679
well yeah, I just liked them
intensely and at that. But their fundamental

456
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.480
point is that, you know,
for a person's personal life, doesn't make

457
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.400
a lot of sense to vote.
It just takes too much time, too

458
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.199
expensive. I don't know what the
weather is like in Chicago this week,

459
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:59.199
but for somebody, I'm sorry,
well, but it doesn't take that because

460
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.760
you know what the problem is that
we don't have Civics education. We don't

461
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:08.960
understand a direct influence that those politicians, those elected officials have on our lives.

462
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:13.440
And it's all incremental as they take
more and more of our liberty away,

463
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.159
as they take more and more of
our security away, et cetera,

464
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:19.119
et cetera, and we are I
mean, you know, I like to

465
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:23.199
think the three Whiskey Happy Hour does
its small part in educating the problem is,

466
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.719
you know what, most of our
listeners are already just as smart on

467
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:30.400
these things as we are, and
so we do end up a lot.

468
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.079
That would be an interesting question for
the comments would be what is the voter

469
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.599
turnout of the three Whiskey Happy Hours? And last our somebody was just so

470
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.480
disgusted with the whole thing they refuse
now to vote. There's not a single

471
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.840
listener amongst the three Whiskey Happy Hour. I'd be willing to bet who doesn't

472
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:51.559
vote because it is too hard.
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

473
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.000
in my life. It's it's I'll
skip the raffle. I've never missed it.

474
00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:00.920
It's one voting in person to single
election. So there's two is opportunity

475
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:04.559
costs of going to vote and it
is not worth And then two their argument

476
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:08.360
is any single individual if their acting
rationally knows their vote doesn't matter. Yeah.

477
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.280
So you know here in my county
in the last election there was a

478
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:17.039
very left wing supervisor. He got
re elected by twelve votes. Oh wow,

479
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.719
and I've been beating up my kids
to see if they voted for the

480
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.480
right person. Anyway. Okay,
well, you know what, We've got

481
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:29.119
so many other great topics, Like
I just say, John is one sentence

482
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:30.920
that having said, I missed Pat
moynihan when it comes to Chicago. I

483
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:35.679
missed the old Richard Daily. Yeah. By the way, the first time

484
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.920
Jesse Jackson went to see Richard Daly
and sometime of the sixties, daidly threw

485
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.639
him out of his office. That's
one reason I like him. So I

486
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:47.000
just a small anecdote I am was
that this one of these Washington dinners and

487
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:52.480
I got sat next to ex mayor
Daily, the recent one, oh the

488
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.320
Richard Daily Junior. Yeah. Yeah, this was almost ten years ago.

489
00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.320
Maybe yeah, and uh, but
you know there is the typical Washington dinners.

490
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.599
There's like a head table up on
some station. Then there's you know,

491
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.000
like thousand people having an intimate dinner
in the audience. And it was

492
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:14.719
he was such an uninteresting humorless,
characterless guy, and he spent most of

493
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.639
the dinner that I could overhear complaining
about why he wasn't at the head table.

494
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:24.800
Of course anyway, So moving on
to our next topic, There's just

495
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:30.719
so many different things going on on
the issue of transgender and diversity. I

496
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.880
know we talked a little bit about
it before in the last episode, but

497
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:44.079
since then to big developments so far. One, the Supreme Court today actually

498
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:52.519
refused to intervene in lower court decisions
handling West Virginia's transgender in sports law.

499
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:59.719
This is a law passed recently where
West Virginia says you can only play in

500
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:05.079
boys sports if you were born genetically
a boy, and you can only play

501
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:10.440
in women's sports if you born genetically
a woman. This was challenged by a

502
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:15.840
young boy who wants to who is
transgender and wants to participate I believe in

503
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:21.480
women's track in a girl's track in
field. The trial judge upheld the West

504
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:25.000
Virginia law, and then the Fourth
Circuit Court of Appeals, a federal circuit

505
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:32.800
that includes West Virginia, without opinion, stayed that so that his the childish's

506
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.840
initial decision does not go into effect, and then the Supreme Court decided not

507
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.199
to get involved at this point,
which means that you might very well have

508
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:47.400
a trial actually about this whole question. So that's one development. Sorry one,

509
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:52.800
Okay, go ahead. The CREATI
I'm just going to say, if

510
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:58.039
you read them, it's actually quite
interesting to read the Child judge is Um

511
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:04.320
opinion in that case, because you
will get a very nice, succinct explanation

512
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:09.519
of how the equal Protection of clause
applies to laws that discriminate on the basis

513
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:13.719
of a whole bunch of different things, and how they fit into you know,

514
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.280
racial classifications and compelling state interests in
all of that. And it was

515
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:21.320
actually quite well done. I was
a little bit surprised that nobody on the

516
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.559
Supreme Court decided to step down and
say, yeah, I mean, could

517
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:29.400
they have done that? Could they
have just overturned the stay and put into

518
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:36.519
effect? Actually Justice yeah, Actually, Justice Alito and Justice Thomas dissented without

519
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.039
very very much in terms of writing, but said that they should the Sprint

520
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:45.039
Courts should have intervened and let West
Virginia's law go into effect and then have

521
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.559
And that's really the question. Do
you let West Virginia laws go into effect

522
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.679
while you're having this trial or and
this is the way it will turn out.

523
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:59.199
Because the sprin court didn't get involved, the law stopped. Yeah,

524
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.239
the effect, so West Virginia and
wall has been blocked from going into effect,

525
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:08.880
and the uh the young plaintiff can
actually start participating in sports. And

526
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:15.400
all I can say is that person's
mother must be the most odious, awful

527
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:21.480
human being on the planet. It
talks about how at the age of three,

528
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.360
Oh, I saw that that was
took purity blockers and all that I

529
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.480
was just google good good word for
it. Boy, do I have a

530
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:31.800
lot of team. I won't say
a lot about this. And I know

531
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.519
you want to get to uh as
I'm calling a bud light and the loafers.

532
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.519
Well, that's the third development I
have. That was you killed my

533
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:45.320
joke going to that one. Well, I had two developments and I was

534
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.039
going to spring the third one,
Steve, but go ahead, West Virginia

535
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.559
case. You know, just a
couple of things. And I won't go

536
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:54.719
on too long, but you know, so when I'm in the high school

537
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:58.639
way back around the time of the
Boer War, and I went to high

538
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:02.039
school with a really premier cross country
program, and then if I think my

539
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.519
junior year, four or five girls
said we want to run cross country.

540
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.159
Well, there wasn't a girls team. There was no girls cross country.

541
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:12.800
They ran with the boys. Howple
of them were really good. They were

542
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.079
able to beat about a third of
the boys and the two Steve probably no,

543
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.239
No, I was one of the
you know, I was one of

544
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.239
the top ten guys. One of
them. By the way, John later

545
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.440
went on to be an All American
and the ten thousand meters at UC Berkeley.

546
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:27.719
In the early age, we dated
for a while and she always kicked

547
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.400
my ass and anything longer than two
miles um. And that probably wasn't the

548
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:34.800
way time she was kicking ass,
But go ahead, no, that was

549
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.519
okay. I will say no more
about all of that anyway. UM.

550
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:40.800
But the point is this that there's
no demand that you know, we have

551
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:45.480
a But they were on the boys
team. They did fine. And by

552
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:46.519
the way, it was while I
was in high school they started saying,

553
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:50.280
okay, let's have a girls team, let's have girls cross country races,

554
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.320
and that one fine, and a
lot of our summer races that we do

555
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.119
it. Because the program went year
round. We were all just in it

556
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:58.559
together, and you know there were, like I say, some of the

557
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.679
girls competed very well. Up guys, maybe we're coming to a point where

558
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:06.400
we just abolish the general differences entirely
for some sports, and that won't work

559
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.360
out very well for a lot of
these folks. Steve, can I throw

560
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.199
that actually directly leads it to the
second development? No, no, let

561
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:15.320
me just throw it out and then
no, no, let me throw it

562
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.840
out there, because I think this
continues your point, and then Lucretia should

563
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:24.599
comment. Which is another development in
this whole transgender thing, is that the

564
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:30.760
Biden administration just put out notice today
that it's going to issue new Title nine

565
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:37.039
regulations about transgender and sports, and
it says that schools will not be able

566
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:43.840
to have the kind of blanket bands
on transgender participation sports of the kind of

567
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.199
West Virginia's trying. But they did
say, and this goes to your point,

568
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:57.559
Steve, that states and schools could
actually keep transgender transgender athletes out of

569
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:04.639
certain sports on a sport by sport
basis. So it sounds like, I

570
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.719
don't know, nobody's sure what this
means. Maybe Steve's solution is right that

571
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:14.039
you will not be allowed to keep
transgender sport athletes out in places where you

572
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.400
could compete together, like a cross
country running I would think maybe tennis,

573
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:27.039
non yeah, whereas but the Biden
administration does seem to conceive that women transgender

574
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:32.800
are going to be playing football anytime
soon or wrestling. But nobody's sure exactly

575
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.840
how you would go about proving this, what kind of evidence you would need.

576
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.840
But that happened today too, at
the same on the same day that

577
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:45.719
the Supreme Court made this announcement about
bless virgin Yeah, yeah, yeah,

578
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:51.639
Lucretia, what are your thoughts about
the Biden I'm almost afraid to ask this

579
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.519
question. What are your thoughts about
the Biden administration and it's transgender policies.

580
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:02.960
I don't understand this other than it
is an absolute attempt to go one step

581
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:12.880
further and destroying nature's nature's guidance about
what human beings are and how they ought

582
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.960
to how they ought to act,
how they ought to behave, how they

583
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:22.360
ought to conduct themselves to find true
human happiness. I think that the thing

584
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:30.039
that bothers me absolutely the most about
this celebration of transgenderism is the celebration of

585
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:38.880
what is seriously a found set of
mental illnesses that are cumulative and build upon

586
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:43.800
each other. I you know,
I understand there are people and have been

587
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:47.960
since the beginning of time or a
transgender I'm not, but why why is

588
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.039
it necessary in such a short amount
of time to go from Oh, all

589
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.000
we want is four days to be
able to marry too. If you do

590
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:04.880
not allow your three rolled to explore
his or her gender and choose his or

591
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:09.880
her identity and then get surgery and
take puberty blockers, and if that child

592
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.719
wants to do it and you don't
want to tell the parents, if you

593
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.760
object to any of that, you
are a profound bigot. How did someone

594
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.639
like Biden? I mean, is
he just so brain dead that he will

595
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:25.639
spout that bs because he's told to
do so? Well? Where did this

596
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.440
come from? How did we get
here? It's violent, disgusting and the

597
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:36.239
fact that we're even discussing it as
if it's serious is it's mind blowing to

598
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:40.000
me. I will see and raise
Lucretia on this. If you always come

599
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:45.800
back with something, oh yeah,
there's always said I was gone. I

600
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:51.599
said I was gone, and raise
Okay, let's here, let's hear this

601
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.679
at some future point, and it
might not be longer than twenty years.

602
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:58.079
It might be sooner. We're going
to look back on this whole period right

603
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:01.840
now as a kin to the enthu
sasm for eugenics seventy five years ago.

604
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:07.400
And by the way, Lucretia,
I've never stopped our enthusiasm for eugenics.

605
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.639
Correct. You can draw a straight
line between the thinking that went behind that

606
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.360
and to this moment that actually should
be written about more. What is that

607
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.400
connection? What is that connection?
Well, it's the idea that there,

608
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:22.000
you know, a human nature is
doesn't exist, it's malleable. Well that's

609
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.360
actually that's two second point, which
is on title nine directly title nine.

610
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:28.800
Let's do a little history. This
Title nine was put in place under Nixon.

611
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.679
He was for all this, so
he shouldn't discriminated against women in education

612
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.400
and okay, and universities, by
the way, you know the guy who

613
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.440
worked us out and you know,
of course, as Chef Melnick. Well,

614
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:43.400
by the way, John, do
you know what Chef Melnick's doctoral dissertation

615
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:47.360
was on? No, what the
Clean Air Act? Oh? How did

616
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.519
that? Did I answer my question? Steve, I don't give a damn

617
00:47:52.599 --> 00:48:00.000
about Cheff melnick Ers who nobody that's
coming to it. I just had to

618
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:04.800
do it, John, because he
walked into that, right, I did.

619
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.480
Well. The chef points out better
than anybody that what colleges did was

620
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.000
say, how do we comply with
this? We don't know? Oh,

621
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:15.719
I know, let's do sports.
That's somebody we can measure football teams and

622
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:17.840
basketball teams to get all the money
we got to spend equal amounts of money

623
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.159
on women's sports. Okay, fine, let's promote women's sports. It did

624
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.079
mean that a lot of low revenue
men's sports, like wrestling in particular,

625
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:30.440
where the US used to be very
strong and act has been completely decimated by

626
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.840
all this. Okay. The point
is now, Lucresia, and you should

627
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:37.239
be happy with this conclusion, is
that this new interpretation put out by BIDING

628
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:42.000
today essentially says, yeah, Title
nine is protect women, but we no

629
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.840
longer know what a woman is.
That's really what it says. It's I

630
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:49.360
know, I don't want to make
jokes about it anymore. I want to

631
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.199
say it's not a joke. I
mean, that's serious, right, I

632
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.840
mean, I mean, Lucretia,
I think rightly pointed out. This opinion

633
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.360
is quite good. It's worth reading. Um opinion. Yes, yeah,

634
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:08.280
judge by, Yeah, obvious,
but under the circumstances no, I get

635
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:13.440
you guys, you know, make
fun of me for how sometimes lawyers obfuscate

636
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:20.079
things with all our standards and tests
and balancing and all the intermediate scrutiny.

637
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.559
But you know, this opinion was
pretty good by explaining, you know,

638
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:27.480
he he starts out with what Lucretia
says, like, there's a difference between

639
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.960
men and women, and it's a
chromosome there. It's just like you don't

640
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.440
So he said, there that is
unchangeable, and he said, what does

641
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:38.280
change can be how society treats gender. But then he said that how's their

642
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:43.639
discrimination going on here? Right?
It's that no one's being prevented from playing

643
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:47.360
sports. And he said the society
has an important interest in saying there's going

644
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:52.239
to be women's sports and there's gonna
be men's sports. And he almost thinks

645
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:57.159
it's so obvious it doesn't really need
proof. And I thought he actually did

646
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.320
a pretty good job explaining it in
a way that should make sense to most

647
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:07.440
recent And he didn't engage in any
kind of dictum about you know, we

648
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:12.440
really shouldn't as a society be celebrating
this ridiculous idea of transgenderism, which I

649
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.079
don't know how I could have avoided
it, but he didn't, and he

650
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:16.840
stuck to the legal arguments, and
he did a very good job of it.

651
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:21.480
You're right. What I want to
say about it is is that we've

652
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:24.960
got to stop acting. Is this
as if this is something legitimate. Yeah,

653
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:30.639
we have to stop at the very
basic level and say done. No,

654
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:37.159
no more drag Queen story hour,
No more celebrating, no more putting

655
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:44.320
your damn pronouns in your email or
on your Zoom persona. No more,

656
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:50.800
do not force me into playing you
in your ridiculously mentally unstable world. I'm

657
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:52.719
not doing it, and I'm not
going to allow you to do it to

658
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.320
other children. I'm not going to
allow you to do it to my children.

659
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:58.800
I'm not going to allow it to
happen in schools, and I'm not

660
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:00.519
going to allow it to happen anywhere. Well, part of what's going on

661
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:06.559
is the Biden proposal is attempting to
pre empt all the states that are I

662
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.079
think Tennessee just voted this week to
say no more drag Queen Story hours in

663
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:14.679
public schools and other sorts of things. It does raise something that should have

664
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:16.440
been brought up in the last election
campaign, but now can be brought up

665
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:21.039
in very direct and acute form,
which is in a debate, somebody needs

666
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:23.760
to ask President Biden that fees the
nominee, how many genders are there?

667
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:28.840
That's the free part question. That
is the free part question of time.

668
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.400
Remember the free part question from Lincoln
and Douglas, right, how many genders

669
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:37.320
are there? And watch Democrats be
completely incoherent because I think that, well,

670
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:42.000
I don't need to say more about
that. But here's here's what I

671
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.360
think is really interesting. You know, I've told you before that I support

672
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:50.719
gays against groomers. I think you
know that the stance they take, but

673
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:54.320
it's becoming. The funny thing is
is that people most willing to speak out

674
00:51:54.519 --> 00:52:02.360
against transgenderism and all of that are
in fact traditional gays. Yes, And

675
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:10.320
why because they recognize that this is
not about openness, intolerance and all those

676
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:15.360
other things. This is about destroying
society from the bottom up. And and

677
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:22.840
and they want to remove the T
and the Q from the LGBTQ and the

678
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.639
plus you know, and say,
okay, we had a fight. You

679
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.000
know, there was a long time
where um, you know, until very

680
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:37.280
recently, it was socially unacceptable to
be openly gay. That's not true anymore,

681
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.440
not to any of us, and
most of us don't even consider it

682
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:44.280
problematic in any way, shape or
form. We all have gay friends.

683
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.800
It means nothing to us. Right. There is a difference, however,

684
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:58.159
between acceptance for gay marriage and gay
lifestyle and all of that, and accepting

685
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:02.519
of the name the man boy love
us, the band may love whatever it

686
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:07.280
is, nambla. They've been around
for so you mentioned lucretia a little while

687
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:16.519
ago. How do we go from
Burger? How do we go from Burger

688
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:20.280
felt a change genderism By the way, it only took about five weeks.

689
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.400
And the irony here is is that
the people before Burger felt we're saying,

690
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:28.679
you know, if we pass this, then polygamy is going to be next,

691
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:32.039
and in fact we leap frogged over
that to this whole business. Right,

692
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:36.360
But somebody has also pointed out and
this want to be you know what

693
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:42.800
did LGBT originally stand for? It
so lesbian, gay, bi sexual,

694
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:47.119
and then t for transitioning. You're
you're you're changing teams as our switching teams,

695
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:52.440
as I put it, But what
does B imply a binary? Yeah,

696
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:53.480
so, by the way, eventually
the B is gonna have to be

697
00:53:53.519 --> 00:54:00.719
eliminated by all these folks. But
be community is saying, no, it's

698
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:05.960
it's true, you know, because
as a matter of fact, gay men

699
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:10.880
are being told, yeah, you
have to accept this transgender man. You

700
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.599
know, they're not attracted to a
woman anyway. It's it's I have to

701
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:20.559
intervene. And just so, I've
lost track of all the different words and

702
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.280
their meanings, right, I don't
think I ever knew them before. But

703
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:27.360
but let me just like throw up
this third example of how this issue has

704
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.960
hit our news this week, and
to show you the hidden, hidden,

705
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:43.760
hidden similarities between Lucretia and a singer
known as kid Rock, because what also

706
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:52.039
came out this week was that bud
Light released a series of commercials starring a

707
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.039
man who masquerades as a woman,
if I if I have that correctly,

708
00:54:55.039 --> 00:55:00.800
and who cuts videos, apparently well
known videos where he dresses like Biden interviewed

709
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:05.840
her. Yeah, yeah, sorry, I did not know that. So

710
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:12.920
oh yeah, so apparently bud Light
even released hands of Beer with his because

711
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.760
he's a gay man dressing as a
woman. I had to do some research

712
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:19.440
on this too. As a woman. That's that's what I would know.

713
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:24.639
That's what I was described in the
mainstream press. So apparently this has caused

714
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:30.559
great outrage amongst the usual community that
drinks bud Light. And wait a minute

715
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.320
before you go on, John Ahead, I saw a T shirt I could

716
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.000
have. I didn't actually see her. Good buy it, but the T

717
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:42.079
shirt said we now have a final
definition of a woman. And it was

718
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:45.119
some you know, some some biological
thing was the first thing. In the

719
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:51.039
second was anyone who's willing to drink
like bud Light. Well that's a battle

720
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:55.920
on bee headline says fake beer finally
finds fake woman to endorse it. But

721
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.639
then the last, the last,
the last example of you know, the

722
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:07.440
average Americans attitude or response to all
this was yes. Kid Rock then released

723
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.440
a video of himself, I believe, with an AAR fifteen shooting up cases

724
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:16.239
of bud Light out in the field, which, given Lucretia's brandishing of weapons

725
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:21.199
on the last episode of the podcast, I made me think. I made

726
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:23.119
me think she must have been doing
the same thing this week now, Because

727
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:28.840
first of all, in my lifetime, I have never ever once drunk or

728
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:34.400
purchased what bud Light And you've never
had bud light? God about just straight

729
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.840
budget. I think I've taken a
taste of it. It tastes like piss.

730
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:42.960
Sorry, excuse me language, sorry, family show. It's last thing

731
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.199
on the planet. And a light
beer in the in and of itself is

732
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:50.599
that's you know, that whole thing
to convince men to drink light beer.

733
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:58.239
That what a major disinformation operation that
was. But anyway us men do,

734
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:02.639
but bud Light has anyway, But
I've never I can't boycott it because I've

735
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:07.400
never purchased it. I never would, and that only makes me upset.

736
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:10.079
A couple of stray observations. I
can't resist this just because we all know

737
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:14.880
him. Someone who used to be
able to recite the Budweiser, not bud

738
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:20.400
Light, but the Budweiser labeled it
was like this paragraph a bus quality yet

739
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:22.360
history. And someone who used to
be able to recite that from memory it

740
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:28.400
would do someone very dramatic fashion at
parties. Was our pal John Eastman really

741
00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:32.840
was back in the eighties. But
still we can humiliate him with That's where

742
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:37.760
he found the extra words for the
twelfth Amendment. The well Budweiser is now

743
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:45.840
using cows identifying as quisdales. Know, I have tried not to give oxygen

744
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.800
to this person who has been you
know, celebrated and as you know,

745
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:52.920
has got millions of views, because
if you don't see John and really you're

746
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:58.840
quite But never mind. I mean, I think I think our listeners understand

747
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:01.719
where we stand Luke creation in the
moral, political, and philosophical and psychological

748
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:10.000
aspects of it. It does seem
like every week the news does produce something

749
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:15.480
you could not have made up but
just a year ago. But what bud

750
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:22.599
Light? What is Budweiser thinking and
doing this? That makes no sense?

751
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:25.880
I mean the people that you got
to imagine that, the people who are

752
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:31.039
the main consumers of bud Light are
aghast at this. I expect we're going

753
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:35.880
to see huge. I've got to
think some adults in the ruin but at

754
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:38.960
Annaheuser Busch are saying, who did
this? What the hell? You know?

755
00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:43.800
Some marketing person has already been fired. Yeah, somebody's already been fir.

756
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:46.920
You're gonna get Yeah, I don't
know. Nike got as much.

757
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:52.199
Nike did the same thing they did. They offered some big contract to that

758
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:59.599
thing. Yeah, and this person
I don't know. I mean, are

759
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:01.920
you look at his videos? You
look at someone who's really I don't know,

760
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:08.960
reached out and celebrated its birthday.
And I mean that this is the

761
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:15.599
most popular thing in America right now. Is that I have often pointed to

762
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:17.840
the example from the eighties. I
don't remember this Lucretia John's too young.

763
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.679
Maybe remember that young ten year old
girl named Samantha Smith who wrote to Gorvichov,

764
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:29.599
I'm all for abolishing nuclear weapons.
They made a big pr stunt of

765
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:31.320
inviting her to the Soviet Union.
Well, you know, she and maybe

766
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:36.840
even his big celebrity. They made
a movie about her end up dying in

767
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:39.679
a plane crash. Now let's not
directly connected, but the point is as

768
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.920
they made her and I think,
by the way, Gretath Thundberger is going

769
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:45.199
to end up the same way.
She's been exploited for marketing purposes by the

770
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:51.360
Climatistas as I call them, and
this Dylan mulvaney person I predict, And

771
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:55.239
by the way, I think there's
a decent chance that this unfortunate person is

772
00:59:55.239 --> 01:00:00.920
going to come to, you know, trouble in life, and at that

773
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:06.000
point the Left will abandon her.
Oh yeah, of course some time.

774
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:08.519
Yeah, and you know that will
just do you mean like they did Sam

775
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:14.320
Brittain, Yes, right, who
I met several times, but I don't

776
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:20.880
know who that is. Thank you. Let me oh, yes, I

777
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:23.679
I try to block clears out of
my memory, but Lucretia won't let me

778
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:29.719
forget them because I'm worried about this. John. You know. Let's let's

779
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:34.880
um we only have it from this
left in the podcast. Um, let's

780
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:38.960
wrap up with I hope our new
feature to the podcast, which is going

781
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:44.400
to be I think of it as
the philosopher's corner. Although as I said

782
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:47.800
to both of you in the in
the but as I said to you when

783
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:52.440
I was suggesting this to you in
your little philosophy world, I bet there

784
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:55.400
are no corners because everything seems to
circle around endlessly to me when you guys

785
01:00:55.480 --> 01:01:00.360
talk. Okay, so I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Let me starts.

786
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:04.519
So let me just started to listen
to The idea is hopefully every podcast so

787
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:08.519
often we can talk about at the
end some kind of political philosophy of political

788
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:15.679
theory, issue of the day,
either the contemporary relevance or something that Steve

789
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:20.440
and Lucretia have come across I want
to discuss, and so Lucretia is volunteered

790
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:24.760
to go first in our inaugural Philosopher's
Corner on the Three Whiskey Happy Hour podcast.

791
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:30.320
And I chose my subject today because
this is Easter weekend, it's passover

792
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:35.239
also. But what I what I
want to put out there just for your

793
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.639
consideration, and believe it or not, it's not entirely unrelated to what we've

794
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:44.400
just been talking about. I'll make
that connection momentarily. But one of the

795
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:51.480
things I find the mist fascinating about
the United States of America and its commitment

796
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:57.039
to equality is where that notion of
equality actually comes from. And if you

797
01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:04.199
look at history, where you find
it is not an Aristotle he didn't think

798
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:08.119
people were right. No, mostly, but it's it's a little more complicated.

799
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:14.679
But but where you actually see equality. This is my simplest example of

800
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:20.440
it is in the Samaritan Woman at
the Well, when Jesus walks up to

801
01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:23.519
the Samaritan woman at the well and
asks her for a drink of water.

802
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:29.519
That seems to us this is a
proof of of of the success of that

803
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.320
idea. To us, it seems
okay, he asked a woman for water,

804
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:39.320
except that Jewish men did not speak
to women, unaccompanied women, unaccompanied

805
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:46.400
women who are obviously women of um
discredited women, shall we say, And

806
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:52.639
they certainly didn't speak to women who
were not Jewish and all of those other

807
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:57.519
things. As a Samaritan woman was
not. But Jesus speaks to her as

808
01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:04.000
if she is an equal in the
conversation in the Gospel. That idea that

809
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:07.880
we are all made in the image
of God, and it's also you know,

810
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.159
it's part of Hebrew lore. We
are all made in the image of

811
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:16.960
God took a long time to we
might say, become politically feasible or viable.

812
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:22.199
But that is what makes that is
what makes the United States of America,

813
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or did at least, so extraordinary. Is this idea that all of

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us, whether we look at it
as being equal in the sight of God,

815
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made in God's image, or just
from a purely more secular political point

816
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:42.880
of view, you know, the
Creator didn't make us, or we weren't

817
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:45.320
created, or we didn't evolve in
such a way that there were natural rulers

818
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:51.920
among us. We have so much
to be thankful for in the sense that

819
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:57.679
we were the inheritors of that great
traditions as it sort of played itself out

820
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:02.440
over two thousand years to the point
where today we are. We live in

821
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a society, we live in a
constitutional system where we can still look at

822
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:12.559
the things that are wrong with it
and have a place from which to a

823
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:15.360
point of departure to say, what's
wrong with what happened to Trump? What's

824
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:23.159
wrong with this commitment by the leftist
Biden regime to promoting transgenderism, is that

825
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:27.639
we are denying what is good and
beautiful about human nature, which starts,

826
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:31.599
in my opinion, with the fundamental
equality of all human beings. And on

827
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:35.960
Easter weekend, that's something I'm going
to choose to celebrate. Steve, do

828
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:45.280
you think that human equality is really
the result of Christianity and not political philosophy?

829
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:48.000
Yes, I was going to say, Hobbes my soft box plain.

830
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:50.519
Well, you know, for me, you should mention that I'm going to

831
01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:55.039
pond for this week, because the
great thing about political philosophy is it has

832
01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:59.119
a long shelf life, and I've
got something to but I can say,

833
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:02.480
we'll keep. On the other hand, I do think John that we haven't.

834
01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:11.960
I haven't. I'm I'm showing listeners
that awesome. I'm showing a little

835
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:16.119
sort of tent cardever you call it, for the program John did on Hobbes

836
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:19.760
Leviathan with Michael Knowles for Preger University
and have a chance to listen to yet.

837
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:24.159
But I'm going to and then of
course correct all your mistakes and the

838
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:29.199
rest of that till next week.
So you no comment on mine, Steve,

839
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:31.840
Yeah, comment on crime and he
did. Agreement. I can't.

840
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:34.320
I hate that. I don't hate
to say that, of course, but

841
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:40.960
I hate and I understand when I
say that there's nothing exclusive about it in

842
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:45.440
the sense that it doesn't exclude people
who are not believers, doesn't exclude people

843
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:50.840
who believe in a different religious tradition
like Judaism or Muslim or whatever. That's

844
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:54.800
not the point. Well, but
what go ahead, Steve, Well and

845
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:58.679
let me kild it this way,
and this is you know, five volumes

846
01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:01.199
to follow, John. But the
point as when you have a teaching that

847
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:11.599
is a universal b that your relationship
or your religious piety religious obligation is disconnected

848
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:15.159
from your political obligation to the regime
you live in. That's dynamite stuff.

849
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:19.679
It points to liberalism rightly understood,
and it took more than fifteen hundred years

850
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:23.559
for people to start to figure that
out. Like I said, my big

851
01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:27.199
story, that's my two questions.
Then maybe these will be teasers for our

852
01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:30.960
discussion of Hobbes for next week.
It sounds like we're going to have one

853
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:34.039
is if that's true, why did
it take them seventeen hundred and seventy six

854
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:36.840
years to figure it out? You
now, why did it have to come

855
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:41.639
along for America? What about all
the countries in the Middle Ages and there

856
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:46.000
early in the Enlightenment and the Renaissance, they didn't put these principles into practice?

857
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:51.039
Why did they overlook the central teaching
of Christianity? And then second,

858
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:55.639
I always oh, I'm not finished. My second point is I always thought

859
01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:59.519
it was Hobbes that was the person
who said, no, all people are

860
01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:02.239
equal, because in the state of
nature you can equally harm each other.

861
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:10.079
And that's why that was taking the
just the idea of all equal, all

862
01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:15.320
human beings being equal before God and
making it lower and political, so that

863
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:18.079
that that you know, you don't
have to have that high falutint way of

864
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:23.239
looking at it. That's it's much
too simplified. But the first thing you

865
01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:26.960
said. The first thing you said
about how did it take all this time?

866
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:34.159
Peter Paul in the in the in
the Gospels, I really if if

867
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:38.480
you, if you read the New
Testament, you very much get the sense

868
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:45.679
that they expected Jesus to the second
coming of the Messiah to happen in their

869
01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:50.320
lifetime soon any day now, you
know, And so um, everything that

870
01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:57.199
Paul and Peter say in the Gospels
is obey, obey the Emperor, obey

871
01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:01.639
the political authority. Be you know, live as a free and good individual,

872
01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:05.840
but obey the authority. Because every
authority that's there was put there by

873
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:10.840
God. Okay, and it takes
much too long, because Steve's going to

874
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:15.800
kill me if I keep talking in
this way. But but that it took

875
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:21.640
a long time for the idea of
that all powerful authority put there by God

876
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:27.279
to kind of morph into this idea
than of the divine right of kings.

877
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:31.119
What And we know that human beings
are evil or they have a capacity for

878
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:39.159
evil and envy and not virtue and
all those things. And for the longest

879
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:45.479
time Christianity's evolution, along with Roman
history and then you know, all of

880
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:49.760
Western civilization, it took us a
long time to get to the idea that

881
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:54.960
somehow these people in positions of authority, even if they were put there by

882
01:08:55.039 --> 01:09:00.680
God or somehow no better than anybody
else. I'm really trunk hating this explanation.

883
01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:03.439
Yes, sorry, Steve, what's
right you have? I mean,

884
01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:12.520
can I add one additional layer to
Lucretia just said? Which is the question

885
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:15.159
you raised? John? And how
come people didn't figure this out? Sooner

886
01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:18.840
raises the profound question of how human
consciousness evolves, and it raises the very

887
01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:24.760
difficult problem of historicism. But I'll
just end with this are on this point,

888
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:29.880
our great teacher Harry Jaffa like to
say that the two I think he

889
01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:32.359
put it this way, almost Lucretia, the two greatest breakthroughs in human consciousness

890
01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:39.640
were Moses coming down from Mount Sinai
with the tablets and announcing that God is

891
01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:44.199
one, the unity of God as
opposed to polytheism, the plurality of God's

892
01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:47.279
the unity of God is important and
that has all kinds of difficulties itself.

893
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:53.000
And then the second was okay,
so Moses announces the unity of God,

894
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:58.720
declaration of independency, said, announces
the unity of the human family. Right,

895
01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:01.359
that was a br and new idea. It was implied in you know,

896
01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:05.079
two thousand and least years of twenty
five hundred years of learned thought,

897
01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:10.479
but it wasn't until it's crystallized in
someone's break Both of those were he thought

898
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:15.840
breakthroughs in human consciousness. They take
place at historical moments, but they're rooted

899
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:19.560
in what's that first sentence, right, the laws of nature and Nature's God,

900
01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:24.039
the reason we're supposed to obey our
rulers, and because they're placed there

901
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:28.359
by God, not that they're just
rulers. That that that was not part

902
01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:30.960
of the syllogism. It was not
a syllogism. You know that, you

903
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:35.039
know that the no one thought that
those rulers were just rulers. But because

904
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:40.359
God is the author of nature and
the creator, they have to be there,

905
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:42.920
because they're part of God's order of
the universe. And it's up to

906
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.680
us to figure out how to sort
that out now. And then going back

907
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:51.279
just quickly to us, you ask
Jod about the evolution of consciousness. Jefferson

908
01:10:51.399 --> 01:11:00.600
tells us that it is monkish ignorance
and superstition that has kept us from recognizing,

909
01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:03.560
as he puts it, that all
mankind is not that some of mankind

910
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:08.920
has not been born with saddles on
their backs and the others booted and spurred,

911
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:13.560
ready to ride them legitimately by the
grace of God. So, according

912
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:17.359
to Jefferson, this is an absolute
truth that has been true since the beginning

913
01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:25.880
of human history. But monkish ignorance
and superstition he blames for that lack of

914
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:29.560
consciousness to the truth of the matter. And I will find that I may

915
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:33.239
go on forever, but I will
add John that you can't Hobbs can't do

916
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:38.159
what he did without Machiavelli, whose
approach to this, it's very indirect,

917
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:44.039
is paves the way for it,
because Christianity created a lot of problems along

918
01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:46.199
the way. Let me leave it
at that. Yeah, Christianity created a

919
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:54.199
lot of problems. Belly first addressed, You're I was what I was hoping

920
01:11:54.359 --> 01:12:00.560
for. I had the idea for
them. We've done such a poor job

921
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:04.560
that nobody will ever listen again.
Yeah, it's what you do. Have

922
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:06.880
you've been drinking with you? Yeah? All right, we want to say

923
01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:11.479
a little bit about the Clarence Thomas
story. I think we've run out of

924
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:15.279
time. We're gonna have to defer
that the facts are still developing on that

925
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:19.319
right now. Okay, So okay, my stupid person of the week,

926
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:21.840
I hate to say it, since
you're not gonna let me have a Briden

927
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:29.239
Biden administration person has to be that
new mayor of Chicago who is by all

928
01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:35.760
accounts not a racist. His entire
his entire campaign was run on an anti

929
01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:42.640
white platform, and um, the
result of that is going to make,

930
01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:47.640
as we talked about earlier, the
city of Chicago just a horrific place to

931
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:50.560
live, even more than under Lorie
Lightfoot. So he's my moron of the

932
01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:55.119
week. By the way, he
says, this is about black labor versus

933
01:12:55.279 --> 01:13:00.119
white wealth. That's what this battle
is about. I mean, how does

934
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:05.079
he get away with that? Anyway? Steve provided a pretty good log post

935
01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:10.960
on that on Power Line that everybody
should take in. That's my idiot of

936
01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:15.840
the week. And you have a
camelism. Yeah, let me close with

937
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:21.039
our usual goodbye and so always drink
your whiskey, kneat, Let's go Brandon.

938
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:26.760
And as many of you know,
our vice president was on a tour

939
01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:32.399
of Africa where apparently she felt free
and liberated from the prying eyes of Washington

940
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:36.760
and really let her hair down and
enjoyed herself. So we're still getting quotes

941
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:42.159
that we didn't know of from her
trip. Here's a little tidbit. She

942
01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:47.279
was speaking at a joint conference with
the President of Ghana. Well, there

943
01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:50.039
are a number of things on the
issue of the economy as a whole that

944
01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:54.000
we must do, and a lot
of that work is the work that I'm

945
01:13:54.079 --> 01:14:00.199
here to do on the continent.
So there you have it. Next week,

946
01:14:00.279 --> 01:15:27.159
everybody, Ricochet joined the conversation.