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cost. Hi daire, Welcome to side Quest, the in between episodes.
When we're not having adventurers, we're commenting on the state of the world,
as long as there's nothing too important or challenging. Hi. There, I'm
Steve Wevell and joining me today. It's Misty Massy and m K Gibson.
Gibbie. Hello, Hey, how are you doing buddy? I'm glad we
didn't do a one two three today. I don't think we need it.
We're just gonna do it and just find out what happens. It's fine,
yeah, I mean I will spend more time editing that comment out than I
will sinking up the recordings, like okay, this note to self put that
in later, just to fuck with you again. It's the magical season that
we've all been waiting for. Fuck Christmas, Fuck Thanksgiving, whatever, any
holidays anyone else having It's Oscar seasoned, baby. That's what a real magic
is. When we get to see incredibly rich, successful, practically a different
species of people congratulate each other on a job well done for making movies and
keeping us all distracted so we can grind again day after day to feed their
enormous troughs of affluence. Oscars, Who's exciting? Not even a little bit?
Like when I was a child, I actually got into the Oscars because
I felt like they always give you that one popular movie that you could get
behind, while everything else was a silent film, a on two British brothers
lost at sea staring at nothing for nine hours for the day. Yeah,
you got the occasional, like you know, you got the the every like
I feel like every couple of years you get the brave Heart of the Gladiators,
like the Lord of the Rings. Feel like every five years they gave
you that'd give me one. And I used to look forward to that,
But I think as I've gotten older, it's just I would want to care,
but I don't. It's like you said in the intro, you have
a lot of affluent people can congratulate themselves on their self importance again speaking is
like I used to get excited. Remember they used to have shows dedicated entirely
to what the latest movie trailers were, because there was no Internet, and
celebrities were still these distant, kind of two dimensional people that you could look
up to without too much trouble of actually knowing what horrible, out of touch
opinions are. But yeah, I mean back then it'd be kind of like,
oh, our local news anchor has got an interview with an actual Hollywood
celebrities. Are these people actually real that interacting with the plebeians? But it's
not really the same anymore, and that as it were in the Billy Crystal
days, the whole sense of occasion seems muted somewhat now that you can just
look a celebrity up on Twitter and find out that they're actually quite tedious.
They kill hookers and then they got people have to fix that entire like,
well, at least that's interesting, Gibbie, right. But there was that
who was that show? It was on It was on FX. It was
it was called Dirt. It was every one of those dirt rags and just
follow the celebrities around and like find out their secrets. And I think the
girl that was on True Blood had a show like they were the fixers of
Hollywood. They would go around like and then bury those dead hookers that the
celebrities would like get high and kill, you know, and things like that.
You know, well someone's got to do it. Well, someone's exactly,
and I guess it's lucrative. Man. I got in the wrong job,
you know, blue collar hockeywood baby Gibby's dead hooker disposal. Yeah,
somebody's got a follow Kevin space here around, who was acquitted for legal purposes
and several key witnesses didn't go missing. If anyone asks, I'd just like
to say that just in case Kevin space or anyone affiliated with Kevin Spacey is
watching this show, I'm just joking. Trust me, Kevin Spacey's got his
own issues to deal with right now. Mad Monster Party, which is a
big media con here in the States, invited him to be a guest last
They announced it last week and yeah, fandom has gone nuts and not in
a good way. And there the Mad Monster come. Well. And the
really interesting thing is if you go on Mad Monsters, if you go on
Mad Monsters social media to say anything about him, they will. They will
delete your comment and then block you. So they have blocked hundreds of people
and deleted all their comments to the Sane Humans con, I've realized the man
was acquitted, but so is OJ And I'm just saying, you know,
again, any legal purpose or anybody parody, parody, parody, joke,
joke joke podcasts. Apparently we're funny and apparently this is podcast. And I'm
just saying, you know, maybe certain things are plutonium and don't bring them
around, you know, I'm just saying, Yeah, anyway, I think
I was. I was kind of. I think I was happy before I
knew they were all horrible monsters. I don't know, that's not it as
well. I guess it's just kind of I don't know for me. The
the recent Oscar highlights has been Ricky Gervais basically calling them all out for their
monstrous hypocrisy. That was a fun one. Well that's at least the Golden
Globes. They have a little bit more of like the Golden Globes. Oscar
askars is when Will Smith slaps Chris Rock and we get that again, not
the Jimmy Kimmel hosting. Obviously, no one needs that. That's basically just
his here's a spoonful of vanilla pudding. But yeah, we need somebody slapping
someone this year, or what's the point the standard's been set now, right,
I mean, well, at least when Huge did a song and dance
numbers, you know, And I'm not a song and dance guy, but
I respect Wolverine doing that. I got no problem with it. And there
was this one season where I think it was Jack Black and Will Ferrell did
a send in the Clowns thing where they were like, it was an entire
riff and rip on the community where like, comedies don't get nominated for anything
in the Academy Awards, and it's like, so they did a send in
the clowns in a very sad way and they were then like, yeah,
I know, I'll just play a wood legged person, like who's overcovering their
disabilities. Yeah, that's how I'll get my oscar. Because you know,
it was they were really taking the piss out of them out of the community
as a whole. So good. I mean, that's good, but we
can't do that anymore otherwise Will Smith will beat the shit out of you.
So I guess that's something we've lost again. But you don't say anything about
Jada, You're fine. I've looked into Jade Smith. Turns out she's a
bit of a prick. Too, So yeah, a bit of my first
My first love of Jada SMIs like I saw Demon and she was in that,
and I love that movie. I'm like, so I think, so
my head, my young mind is like you're in a cool movie, you're
a cool person. And then to find out yeah, like yeah like that
that psyche breaks. So yeah, yeah, that's again best not to look.
I never look into the artists. The whole discussion about separating the artists
from the art for me is moot because I'm not interested in the artists at
all. But yeah, I think maybe if we're not allowed to make fun
of him, maybe somebody should just go through the entire front row and slap
everyone. I think maybe I'd tune in for that. Yeah, just like
well every so that's the thing. I think. It's like the oscars.
Like I said, when I was young, I like them, but over
time you start to, like anytime I think we've all worked in various offices,
departments, divisions, organizations, whatever, that starts to self congratulate themselves.
You know, every time a CEO gives myself a raise, you're kind
of like, well, fuck you. And every time you know, like
like if I if I could give myself the world's greatest dad mug a year
after year and show it to my on. So but every time you try
to take a little bit of like like I said, take the piss out
of them and like mock it a little bit to hump, humiliate and humble
them, they shut that ship down really fast. What was that year that
Seth MacFarlane did again a song and dancer because he's a he's a song and
dance guy, and when he hosted, unfortunately, he sang a song called
I Saw Your Boobs and it was he was pointing out all the celebrities in
the audience who have like been topless in movies like I Saw your boobs.
Oh you could google this, you know. It's like he was doing it
that and that that family guy American dad style song and dance of his,
and yeah, do yourself a favorite google that singing I Saw your boobs and
that's that. But yeah, he wasn't invited back after that, So well
I respect that. That's fine. You need to kind of you need to
lance the boil. That should be what comedian does. And if there's a
lot of pomp and circumstances and people taking themselves extremely seriously Tayliss Swift and yes
that year he gave that acceptance speech, and same thing with like Tom Hanks
and some of their like, like they are the champions of this, they
are the forefront of that. They are the ones putting this into the eyes
of the viewers. And like, I understand from a perspective, but that's
every artist, you know, every artist who can write. I have a
there's something I want to talk about and I want to write, write,
wrap a story around it and present it to an audience. But the problem
is, like art is supposed to be subjective and let the person like or
dislike it. But the moment you say no, thank you, like they
smush it in further and you're like, no, you will like this or
else. And that's where as I've gotten older, like I kind of want
to just watch John Wick again, you know, you know, yeah,
I mean it's I think the whole and again, like every every human on
the planet is now there own little studio, so the magic from that has
gone. The whole inaccessibility, the whole artistry behind the cut. No,
I'm genuinely interested in the artistry of it. I do, I know,
No, no, No, the actual filmmaking is still particuarlyon task of sound
and light and and like bringing this all together. It feels like it's like
you're literally capturing lightning in a bottle to make a thing every single time,
you know what, I love? But when Hollywood movies make movies about making
Hollywood movies, I fucking love that. Ironically, that's that seems to like
get nominated every single time. Yeah, I know, I wonder why how
do these people relate to that subject matter? But I do find I think
it's kind of it's when they're at the most self effasive, and it just,
I don't know, gets me. Every time I like movie, I
think it was like my heart was like my my at least like that Bandit
was ripped off when I realized that, Like, you know, you think
about the mysterious, this mysterious cabal of the Academy, and who are these
people nominating things for the awards? You know, it sounds like it comes
across from a sense of meritocracy, but in fact it is a scandalous amount
of like like advertising revenue teams who are like basically going to each individual person
who's on the Academy and like buying them luxury cars, are taking to the
lunches and dinners and talking and like schmoozing and using. It's a campaign,
like everything else is a campaign, and like that's what broke my heart.
It's like, you know, it's it's man, this this movie is really
good, but this other team's gotta go like like how like no offense of
missus Marissa Tomey, but she won the Best Actress for My cousin Vinnie.
She had a good campaign thing, and I think Jack Nickerson was helping rattle
on that one goes like he knows people. He rubbed the elbows and like,
don't get me wrong, I'm sure there's kind of like an extreme level
of talent regardless of what's nominated. That's fine my cousin Vinnie. Maybe not
like my go to like that's Academy Award winning movie, My cousin Vinnie to
you? So really she won the Best Actress? Oh yeah for that?
That seems like some kind of strange alternate timeline. Did I step on a
butterfly or something? I don't know, but exactly I do wish that that
there was a little more, a little more openness about how to nominate that
it's not that it wasn't just a a financial pop u larity contest, because
there are so I mean, there are so many movies that come out every
year and you automatically go, yeah, that's an Oscar movie because and it's
gonna be boring or I'm never going to get a chance to see it because
it's going to play in four art theaters in this entire country and then never
again. And so you know, how can that possibly be the best movie
of the year when twelve people saw it, you know. Bugs. On
the other hands, on the other extreme, I wouldn't want it just down
to popular vote either, because I didn't want I understand that. I get
a little bit annoyed when everyone says, like, you know what, it's
just a movie. If you like it, you like it, and if
you don't, it doesn't matter. And every movie is good if someone likes
it. No, there's craft and artist stray to this thing. There are
people who are extremely good at their jobs. So I wouldn't want to like
just like, hey, guys, you decide what's the best movie, and
it's just some fucking TikTok live streamer. You know, miming with his asshole
or something, which is inevitably I'm is very difficult. He's using with justice
sphincter like that's like there's merits of that. Holy crap, is Swinter is
trapped in the box. I'd be fine if it was a little more like
some of the literary awards, where everybody in the industry that that qualifies in
a certain way is voting, and so you know, they can all put
in nominations and then they can all vote, and so at least it's people
who know what's going on and know how the movies are made, and know
how the actors work and all that who are voting. You know. I
just I don't like that it's a few rich people being courted by other rich
people to nominate things that that ninety nine percent of the country won't even have
had the chance to see. So but but I do understand. I mean,
it can't be just a popularity contest, because then you're gonna end up
with with like the what was it? The Oh God? There was this
one movie that was so popular. Dana Carvey was in it, and he
he dressed himself up as different characters and and at one point he was a
turtle. No you're talking about that was? That's that was. It was
so bad and it was huge. It was huge the year it came out.
But it was a really bad movie. But it was pans by everybody.
Now Wayne's World, Now, now we can give me a contention about
like Garth and then it was like as Wayne's World, not Master of Disguise.
My god, I think that's like famously one of the lowest rated movies
on Rotten Tomatoes. But you know what, Missy, you bring up,
you bring up a good point because it's one of those like again when when
hosts dare to like mock the Academy. Chris Rock one of the years that
he he went, he left the Academy, went outside, took a film
crew and went across the street to another theater and just interviewed people on the
streets, like, hey, did you see this all the movies that are
nominated for Best and they're like, no, no, no, which for
the movie this year? They're like so plain, you know, or something
to that effect, you know, And it's like, so there's gonna be
a people's choice vote. And actually some years back that was actually on the
contention list, like should we make a people's choice or popular movie contest?
But it got shot down by the Academy because by saying that this is the
popular one, that it somehow takes it away from the artistic one that deserves
to that whole. Like it's I kind of get that. I mean I
kind of get the popular too. Yeah, the popular the popular vite is
the box office. It's like people watch and talk about shit. An Yeah,
I like the idea that's' seventeen. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You
see, you know it's the what's your favorite movie? I don't know,
the one that kept my kids quiet? Yeah, it's not like I understand
construction equipment for kids. Yeah, multiple USCO winning But all right, okay,
well, speaking of that, I'm going to take us through the OSCY
list some of the comminations. You can tell us what we've seen. We'll
go for the biggies, right, okay, okay, So we'll start with
best Picture. Has anybody seen The Holdovers? Nope? What's it about?
I think it's Paul Gmati stays on at a private school to look after some
kids that can't go home. It looks delightful, like not a fan of
Jamati. So I see I like, I like Paul Giamati. I think
the man is a guy named chameleon, Like he spent all those years as
a character actor, practicing his craft to get good at acting. You say
that, I know what you mean, because he is a great He is
a great actor, but he's a chameleon. If a chameleon always looked like
Paul giamaty no matter what they did, it's very old man. But what
I'm saying is, like you can grab several different Gamari rolls and everything from
his how he stands, his pasture, he moves like he is, he's
got He's conventionally unattractive. I can think. I can say that like subjectively,
like so he's not leading man material. So he got really good at
acting. And yes, I think the US actor this year as well.
He's an inspiration to all us conventionally unattractive people who try to compensate in various
all us chuds, Like I got good at right because I can hide behind
my characters. Yes, exactly, So go Paul de Himati. I don't
whatever he's been nominated for. I hope he wins Second American Fiction. I
believe it's about a black writer in America frustrated at the expectations of white culture.
Honest on the sudden boom of interest in black fiction. I haven't seen
it. I haven't seen it, but the topic is interesting I've seen I've
seen some people within the black community talk about like, for example, in
The Little Mermaid, they made the act they made the actress backs. I
think her name is Haley Hailey Berry, like Halle Berry but different. But
this one gentleman was like cool, Hailey Bailey Hailey there was like cool.
But we have a lot of amazing Black and caribbeing and stories that would make
amazing stories. We don't need to put a black actress on a white story.
It'd be great if we put a black actress on a traditional Black story
and let that come forth and be shown to the populace in the world,
you know, and take that as you will. I mean, like,
there are so many stories out there, and like like whenever, even us
urban fantasy writers, we tend to go to like the Norse, the Roman,
the Greek, the arrils of the vampires, but there are countless stories
of the Loa and and mythologies from like the Crea Haitian and Creole cultures that
are just fascinating if you take the time into them. Something. Moana was
a step in the right direction, but they went there and went, Okay,
now, retreat into a back catalog forever. I guess that was what.
That was a great hit before they started just remaking shit. And like
I'm against live action remakes of class again, I think they're actually making a
live action remake of Mowana. Literally talking about I really do think. I
know it's a little bit narcissistic and maybe a little bit self involved, but
I really do think that the universe is only here to just annoy me personally.
That's the theory I'm working on. And that is a level of narcissism.
But you know what, I accept because I feel the same way.
It just it just feels so true. Okay, So moving on the next
movie, The Zone of Interest, which I believe is also an international film.
I know nothing about this one, nor do I. That sounds like
a translation, Yeah, the Zone of Interest. I can only assume this
movie is about getting laid and genitals. I'm here for it. The next
movie, when I haven't seen unforgivably, perhaps Barbie I did see that because
it was on HBOS for free. I did keep I keep meaning to see
it, but I'm hearing all this one. I'm not going to the cinema
by myself to watch Barbie. That's a great arrested, and personally, if
they do arrest me, I applaud their instincts. Well done, You're doing
a grand job. The second one is like, you're supposed to go see
it with a date, but then you're instantly judged on how you react to
the movie. And it's like, I'm not a budding relationship over a Barbie
music but it's like Barbie movies are supposed to be for eight year olds.
Right, what's happened here? Why am I being judged on my reaction to
a Barbie movie? So I'll see it, but I'll see it in a
way that I guess doesn't get me arrested or ruin a relationship. I'm just
waiting for that sweet spot you have done. You have children, though,
right, Steve, Oh, they're too old for the Barbie movie. Now,
I think I could go into my daughter's cool. She's not going to
see it with me, She'll see it with her friends if she wants to
see it. I can't go in. I think even if I went in
with my twenty one year old step sone that's still getting arrested material, it
still looks wrong. I think I heard it's good. I heard it's hilarious.
I can. We'll get into this one a bit more deeply, I
think, because everybody's talking about this one. Next movie, Oppenheimer, I
do. I saw it. I want to, but I wait till it
comes from a service that I have. It is, it is good,
it is very long. Robert Danny Junior is fucking phenomenal in this. He
is He is not playing Robert Danny Jr. In this, he is actually
he gets completely actor. He's actually swallowing into the Yeah, he really is,
and he was remarkable in this. So I will say, the only
thing that's stopped me watching this, it's not because I'll get arrested. It's
just it's simply the run time. I'm not going into a cinema for that
long. Right. Yeah, it's very we saw it on so it's a
It's annoying because it seems like this is a movie you should watch on the
big screen and be overwhelmed by. But just I'm an old man, and
I don't want to see in an uncomfortable chair. For deal, I have
a big television, and I also have like this thing, like I'm sure
it's a fantastic movie and I will eventually see it. The caveat is I'm
not the world's biggest Christopher Nolan fan. All Like, some people love his
movies and they think he's the greatest things in Slice one, but that's fantastic.
I find a lot of his flicks to be very It has the look
of something amazing, but the story is always like eh, and yeah.
For I can get in for a visual experience and not be too concerned about
the other things we're talking earlier about Wes Anderson, I think you don't like
his style. I quite like his style, and even if it's not a
particularly entertaining movie, I can be entertained by that. But I can I
can see why even though I think I do like Nolan movies, I've liked
most of them except for what was a really confusing backwards time one Tenant.
I tried to watch that Tenant great, I mean visually great, really clever,
but I was just like, I'm not I am not interested in this
at all. Luckily I was watching that as a date movie and not being
interested in the movie at all worked out in my favor. So thank you
Christopher Nolan for missing the mark with that one. Yeah, I can see
why people don't like Nolan, but I do. Oppenheimer would be one that
you is. Actually, in my opinion, it's better watched on a DVD
because it's long and so you can take breaks, and there's also there are
moments when you kind of want to be overwhelmed by the visual that's being shown
to you, but most of the movie is talking and so you don't need
You don't need the big screen as much as you might think. There are
only moments that you would want it, so a big TV is enough.
Probably not a date movie either. I'm going to put out I'm going to
put that one with Shindler's lists on movies you shouldn't make out to. Although
there are sexy nuty moments in Oppenheimer, like total naked moments in Oppenheimer more
than one, so another good reason to have it on the big screen.
The next movie Poor Things with Emma Stone. So anybody watched this, I
have not, I have. This is a strong recommend for me, it's
hilarious. Really, it's very feminist. It's quite a feminist movie, a
very progressive man. But it's also it's nearly art school pretentious with the with
the liberties it takes in shooting, and it's this kind of dreamlike artistic style,
but it never goes up its own ass. It's just it's a joy
to watch. The cast is fantastic. Mark Ruffalo is a joy that Willem
Dafoe's in it as a it's Frankenstein's monster, but he's never he's never introduced
as such, but he obviously is. I'm read I'm reading the synopsis right
now, and that actually looks that it's got a good it's got a good
synopsis. I'm in based on that. So Russello plays a villain, right,
Uh, yeah, the movie is not really about heroes and villains.
But he is. He is, he's the antagonist. He's he's kind of
a He plays this would be Leafario, who was frustrated by not being able
to cling on to Emma Emma Stone's character. He is hilarious. Some of
the some of the insults they come out with in this movie. Just one
line has had me snickering loudly. There's a lot of weird, uncomfortable sex
scenes as well. It's it's good if you like weird, uncomfortable sex scenes
and Mark Ruffalo being enormously emotionally frustrated. This is the movie for you.
You, and it's feminists, so I you know, I'm a progressive modern
guy. Next movie, Past Lives. No fucking idea what this one is?
Not a clue, no any takers. Past Lives Going Once, Going
twice, anatomy of a fall, But no fucking idea what this one is
either, don't know that one moving swiftly on Maestro with Bradley Cooper. It
just looks like ol Steven Spielberg. This is a character exploration of some kind
of famous composer. That's all I know about it, right, Uh,
maybe would you care to lead the rest of the description because I think you
made no more than me there. Well, there was a lot of fussing
about the way that they they used prosthetics to increase the size of his nose,
and the Bernstein family was like, uh, no, you're being anti
semitic, and so it was. It was a big deal. But months
ago though, yeah, I remember that I think Bradley Cooper is one of
those actors who you think he just came onto the scene as your average pretty
boy, but he actually he does a lot of really kind of deep,
challenging act the stuff I think he did Elephant Man, I'm not sure if
he did prosthetics for that. I'm sure I probably got stick for that too,
But yeah, I think he's He's pretty good at I can't remember the
last serious, serious movie I watched him, and I think it was Nightmare
Alley or something. He's a really dragon. I'm going to do a shout
out to Bradley Cooper for a quick second. It's more of a it's actually
a public service announcement. Every time I see you, you were getting skinnier
and more gaunt. I don't know if you have a tapeworm. I need
you to eat. When you were in the hangover, you were a fit
uh man. Now you are looking like a shell of what happened? I
don't know if you've gone through a divorce. Are you on the opioids?
Have you like taken up the paleokido? You look like McConaughey at the end
of a million dollar Biler's Club. I need you to eat something, mister
Cooper, you're not looking well. I think it's just because he's going for
the serious roles. Now he's too pretty. He needs to ugly up a
little bit to get those uh, to get those nightmare arly rolls. No,
he's never going directly up. He's charismatic as fuck. But yeah,
I think i'd watch that purely based on if anyone's going to do a character
study Bradley Cooper's he's a character study guy. As you were saying some of
these titles, I was pulling up quick synopsis and this is the fastest one
yet, the one like that, The Anatomy of a Fall. Apparently it's
a French movie. A woman a suspected of her husband's murder and their blind
son faces the more dilemma as the sole witness. That's the tag thing for
it. So that's exactly my point. But like, at least he probably
heard stuff and stuff and stuff and did mom killed dad? You know I
could be into something like that like that. That gives me just a moral
quandary that I might. But at two and a half hours, nah,
sorry, so long run times. Sorry that that synopsis that's an hour forty
minutes. I can save that in two episodes of long order. Speaking of
long run times, Next movie, Killers of the Flower Moons Scorsese. I'm
always gonna watch a Scorsese flick. No way, I'm saying this in cinema.
It's just like like three hours long or something. One of my all
time favorite movies is Gangs in New York, and that's a three hour movie.
And I can sit down and watch that at any given point with with
bathroom breaks. Yeah, I'll make a day of it. Like The Irishman
was slow and it was long, but it was still gorgeous, and I
made a day of it. And I didn't say I've got to sit down
and watch this all in a one and suffer for somebody else's out. But
yeah, there's no way I imagine Killers of the Flower moan as much as
saying it's gonna be brilliant. Scorsese, DiCaprio team up, It's gonna be
great. I'm sing in an uncomfortable set for free ass. I love Scorsese.
I love Scorsese doing a period piece. I don't like DiCaprio. There,
I said it, it's out. The cat's out of the bag.
He's never struck me as like a great actor. He's just there. There
is weasel face and smirky face, and that's angry and everything else. And
I can't I don't get. I understand that he is cottoned up to mister
Scorsese. I understand he tries to an act in nineteen fifties Hollywood vibe.
That's his mystique, that's his thing he's going for. I don't find him
to be a this this actor that everyone else seems like, Oh, he's
really going into a great actor. I like, No, Gary Oldman's a
great actor. You know. The lady from the Crown who's Olivia Coleman is
a great actress. You know she's amazing these people. Can you know Paul
Giamatti's a great actor? Like like I like a lot of movies. That
another thing. It is like I like a lot of movie He's Dicabrio happens
to be in, but it's not because it's DiCaprio. I think he's Uh,
you're right. I wouldn't say Leonardo de Crapio what a great actor.
I would say he's a good movie star. I loved him in Once upon
a Time in Hollywood. It was great. And speaking of Scorsese team ups
the Departed, it was a fucking brilliant movie and he was great, and
that he held his own against why I would consider a cast of everyone else
is better than him, you know everyone. But The Departed felt like the
gimme oscar because like after all the movies, Scorsese winsed the thing for that,
for that, you know, you know, not Good Fellas, not
like anything like, No, he wins it for that, and that that
hurts. It's kind of like Peter Jackson winning for the Return of the King,
the worst of the hollow movies, No Lord of the Rings right off
the bat, these things are always delayed as the problem. I mean,
the part wasn't even scorsese story. He took that from Infinal Affairs, which
is a great movie, right or a great couple of movies, I think
it is. But I think sometimes when he ask us, they know they
fucked up. So people are on the peg to get awarded and they're just
kind of like, well, the Department was a fantastic movie. It wasn't
Good Fellas, but we kind of owned for good Fellas still, so exactly
or or Casino or yeah. Yeah, it's like we owed a guy,
let's let's make this happen. It's like, yeah, I think Dicapreos one
was eventually he got it for I can't remember the name of the movie,
but he wasn't even the best actor in that movie. But I think they
just figured they owed him by the right like if you put on catch,
if you can right now with Tom Hanks, I'll watch that. I love
that movie just there everything. I love that movie from start to finish.
But I don't well Street again a lot of fun. Yeah, but he
is a lot of fun. He's charismatic. I've been he's a great movie
star. But I think, yeah, what you were saying is great actors
there, You're right, he's probably I wouldn't rate him as a great actor.
If somebody put him in Shakespeare, I'd be like, what are you
doing? Whereas there's like there's like fifty parts he could play, like exactly,
he could he could do a one act play of it, like it's
reason, what was the what to do about nothing? When he's trying to
Shakespeare? Actually opposite Kenneth Brana and uh what's her name? Uh, the
actress who used to be married to Kenth Bromma Thompson. All these fucking real
actors whoa I can't count Reeves great movie star, great movie star, not
really great. Yeah, but no one's kissing his ass about his acting.
Chops. It's like you watch Keeves movies, you know, god damn well
what it is, and I love it over here. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, absolutely, I agree with that one hundred percent. I
guess that brings us back to I don't know, dude, Oscars really with
that kind of caveat that they're just kind of they've got this backlog of people
they wrong that they need to correct, so they probably don't have their finger
on the pulse. I guess just because this is topical and Steve, you
don't have a dog in this fight. Only Misty and I have seen this.
Misty Margaret Robbie was not nominated for Best Actors for Barbie when like,
but the guy plays ken Uh, mister Gosling was nominated for Best Actor or
Supporting Actor. I think was she robbed? I because that's what I was
saying. I know, I know Greta Growrig has been nominated in the past
for movies. I think she might have been won one already, I'm not
sure, but and Margot Robbie has her as well. I feel like she
she's not robbed because the movie already made a kajillion dollars and she did an
amazing job in it, and so people have already told her you, we
loved you in this. So essentially, no, I don't think she was
robbed. I do think it might have been nice to honor her in by
nominating, just because the movie was such a phenomenon. But if we're going
on now, I'm about to derail with well I was. I was just
going to say that I I did feel like Ryan Gosling did a really good
job with the with the character of Ken, and even though it was a
character that was supposed to all I'm hearing from the Barbie movie is yeah,
it's like, oh, it's it's so important, it's so insightful. Also,
Ken's the best character for some reason. Well, I'm not going to
say was the best, because I loved Barbie and I loved her her her
development and her realization about the world around her. But I thought Ryan Gosling
did a really good job, so so I don't feel like he shouldn't have
been nominated, but I don't think it's fair to to punish him in the
media for being nominated when she wasn't. I think they're two separate issues.
Well again it comes okay in the beginning of our conversation, it comes back
to he's not being punished. He has a better pr team that got him
a nomination. Like I guess, I don't know what, because again this
always comes down to your at your campaign team. Do they campaign hard enough
for you to get you on this nomination list? And did for example,
did I'm not putting words, did miss miss Robbie and Miss Gerwig like just
assume that they'd be put on the list or did they put in the effort
to like get to fight for the nominations, because I mean, I look
at this Best Supporting Actor thing right now that Paul Gosling happens to be on,
and there is no chance in hell he's Sterling, K Brown, Robert
de Niro, Robert Downey Junior, Mark Ruffalo, and Ryan Gosley. There's
not a prayer. Mark, He's I really must stress poor things. Mark
Ruffalo maybe the most entertaining performance I've seen of last year. So I'm glad
Young hercules is got on the list, but that's as far as he's getting.
Yeah, and I'm sorry, but Robert Danny gonna take the award.
Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty much. I think a lot of people would
agree with you on that. I say, billion dollar movies. Okay,
it made a billion dollars. The Mario movie made a billion dollars. I
don't think that even had a script. Right, It's one of those snars
like I don't dislike I'd like Marto, Robbie just fine. But I put
this in the same category. I don't stay hear me out. I put
her on the same acting tier as the guy that plays Thor. That's it.
They do well within the band with but they're not they are not spiking
high and low to like various roles like good at Harley Quinn. She's good
as Barbie and she was a sex symbol and and what's it called a Wolf
of Wall Street? And I think her brief part in the the Tarantino flick
about the at the Hollywood. But again, like same thing with Thor,
he's a sex symbols. He plays Thor real well. He's done a couple
other roles here and there, but like no one's going to We're going comparable
talent. And they're both Australian. So I'm just saying Australian explained the comedic
timing. I'm gonna say though, Barbie has been nominated for Best Picture,
and comedies don't often get nominated for Best Picture. In fact, comedies don't
often get nominated for shit all. For the last comedy that really cleaned up
was What Littlemits Sunshine? How long ago ago? Was that? That was
a while ago? And and I used that word loosely because when someone's like,
this is the comedy and I watched it, and I'm like, why
am I not laughing? Oh? This is artistic comedy. God damn it,
artistic comedy. I don't have time for that. Ship speaking of artistic
comedies, poor Things is hilarious. It's it's overtly a comedy, okay.
And that's listed for Best Picture, and that's got some Mark Ruffalow is listed
from that. So this is a great year of Oscar wise for comedies.
Yeah, I think people bitching about oh Margot Robbie should have be nominated,
Greg Go, it should be nominated. It can't nominate for Best Picture.
That's and Best Picture is kind of the one, right, that's what counts
if I could give a shit about well, it's usually the two for his
Best Director also wins Best Picture, you know, like you know, yes,
like like you know. Even even Mel Gibson as an Academy War winner
for both both as director of Brave Heart and for winning Brave Heart, he
got to get up there twice and like Hollywood like, well he's he went
off the deep end though on himself. So like there's a lot of I
think Greta girlware, I think she's one already before, but I'm checking real
fast. Yeah, I think she has well, I'm sure she can dry
our tears with fistfuls of cash. And I haven't actually had Margot robbery or
greg Go complaining. It's mostly just been people complaining on their behalf. And
it kind of can occurs to me that last year wasn't last year when everything
everywhere took every award in every category practically, So it's entirely possible that this
year they're going to break it up and not have one particular movie when a
lot of things, because people would go, well, you're just gonna pick
the one movie and get it all the awards, So yeah, who knows,
I think everything everywhere at once. Really, in retrospect, this happens
to a lot of like the big winners, you look at them a couple
of years later and you think that was probably a hype moment in the moment
that made sense. But I mean, I love that movie. But I
loved it. I was absolutely with every award that I still I haven't won.
But I also recognized it was well it's and it's another one of those
movies that you either love it or you don't. It's not it's not a
kind of movie. It's you know, so well, it's like I like,
I like the Brendan Fraser the Whale. Like, I know I'm supposed
to watch that. It's on one of the streaming services. I haven't watched
it yet. I don't want to. I don't want it. I like
Brendan Frasier. But it's I know, I hear it's good. If I
want to watch a movie about sad fat Man, I'll just simply turn off
the telly and look at my reflection in the screen, right right, right,
right right, See, Yeah, I don't want to spend two hours
being miserable When I watch a movie, I want to be entertained most of
the time, and so if it's going to make me sad. This is
why I don't want to see Killers of the Flower Moon, because I already
know it's going to make me sad, and so I'm just not going to
watch it. So maybe there's some lingering Emo in me. In my day
we call it a grunge because it was just emo without the eyeliner. Everything
song is about, you know, stepdad being abusing you. I like the
occasional sad movie. I like the occasional like you know, I like to
sit down and like just I want to feel those feelings because then I can
then turn around and use them in my writing, like what brought me to
that level x y Z. Because everything if everything's up, then nothing is
up. You know. If if you only feel positive, then you don't
know what you don't know what it is because you have to feel negative.
I feel positive again. That's that's human emotion, you know. Uh So,
I like all I need is a public's commercial the Sir McLaughlin Arms of
the Angel of the Sad. If you don't adopt a dog, they're going
to die, you know, you know, yep, see it. I
don't need much. I don't know. I am interested in film. I
mean people who've been listening to this podcast now. I tend to go off
a bit now and then on movies. I like the mechanics of them,
art, history of them, saying hell, we made our own fucking movie.
And I noticed that Shingles was snubbed for an Oscar this year, those
political fuckers. I didn't even think a rowsie at this point. You know,
I would have accepted Best Screenplay Adaptation, but no, who did get
Best Screenplay Adaptation. I'm going to send them email, and everyone listening to
this podcast should too. No, don't do that, you see, Yeah,
I mean I like poor things. I'm I'm interested to see Barbie.
I'm interested s Oppenheimer. I'm interested to see Killers of American Fiction. Barbie
interesting. Yeah. I mean, the only two movies on this I'm not
really interested in seeing are the international ones, and that'll be because I haven't
heard shit all about them because they're international. But everything on the list with
best Picture and this doesn't happen a lot. I'm kind of excited to see.
Normally, there's a load of crap on there that somebody just put together
to appease a board of mysterious people and bribe them. But I don't know.
Everything on the Best Picture seems pretty cool this year, so I'll definitely
be watching them all. I'm just saying Godzilla minus one was not on there.
That's the best Internet movie of this year. Damn it. Bring my
family together. Yeah, and you know what made on a not the GDP
of a small country either. You can still make great movies, you know,
killing without emptying a bank somewhere. But yeah, that should have perhaps
been forever up there, purely for that, purely on Bang for Buck.
There should be a Bang for Buck award out there. Oh yeah, you
won Best Picture when you spent you know, seven hundred million. Well these
guys spent ten million and they kicked your ass. They should be an award
for that. Was I was. I was surprised, actually how good a
movie that actually was, Like despite being a Godzilla movie, it was like
this focus was on the people speaking of breaking your heart. It's the story
is like about a Kamikazi pilot who could not do it. He faked his
he faked a problem with some of these with his planes. We landed because
he couldn't bring himself to do it, and Godzill attacks the island. The
World War two is over and now and his family has shunned him because he
was supposed to bring honor by killing himself but he couldn't do it. So
now he's trying to rebuild his life. But Godzilla is attacking. So he's
like he's made his mission, but he's taking care of a of a woman
that's raising a child that's not around. He has a life now and he
has something worth living for. But Godzilla is like trying to destroy the things
that he cares about now. And it is a good fucking movie, Like
you care my wife sitting two seats down from me, he goes, oh,
gasps audibly at a time, and she doesn't like this ship, and
she's over there like tears coming down her face, and I'm like, god
damn it, Godzilla, you win. So wins. We bought a little
metal plaque of the movie poster to put up on the wall to commemorate that
moment, you know, for our Godzilla. He trampled your city. Now
he will trample you a heart in your heart exactly bringing people together one step
at a time and one big one stump at a time. Cool. Yeah,
I can't. I really can't complain about the best picture of this.
I'm going to watch them all in the comfort of my own home without having
to go to a cinema and wedge myself into a seat for three hours.
Oh hang on, Godzilla minus one Upper Academy War for Visual Effects. I
had to scroll down because sometimes you get the popular the moviessual. Thanks,
it's still Academy Guardians and the Gay that's great. Godzilla minus one, the
Creator all the like, well except for Guardians. Godzilla and Creator both made
on much less, much lower budgets. Guardians Is the Galaxy was a cool
movie. I don't think I'm glad it's getting some recognition. I didn't really
think that was kind of oscurbate it's all, but yeah, I'm glad at
least it's getting a nod. It's getting a nod. Yes, that's reassuring
that the Creator was good. We watched it the other night. I got
halfway through and turned it off. I got bored. I don't know what's
wrong with me. I don't know my soul's dead. I just didn't care.
That's the sci fi one. Right, that's another one I've been putting
in the back pocket. Yeah, now, might not. I've got well,
mister, you say it's good. Give me you got halfway through?
Yeah all right, I mean, well watch, I'll watch seventy five.
There you go. No resolution for me. I don't need it. I'm
a busy man. I said seventy five percent. How interested I am at
that point bowing out, I made a promise discord. By the way,
I've done two jokes on the discord. I did see the second one,
okay. I said the third would be before the next full moon, which
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But yeah, and we'll see you next time. Look out for an
adventure next week. And then after that another side quest, Well, who
knows, maybe all our oscar predictions that we didn't make will come true.
Do we have any predictor? Who do we think is get best picture?
Oh? A best picture? If social media is to be believed, poor
things, I'll go for poor things simply because I love it. That was
a great honestly. Okay, this is going to sound okay. I think
as we killers the flower Moon because right now there has been a big push
in Hollywood to really spotlight the Native Americans, and now they have not been
recognized in Hollywood for a very long time. In this last couple of years
we've seen a big increase, and I think this is this is their year
to be recognized. I think that's why she's probably going to get Best Actress.
I don't think that's It always feels like kind of condescending to say that,
but I think that's probably what's gonna happen. It does feel condescending in
a way. I understand what you're saying, but it's there is a situation
where you know there are a lot again, a lot of stories, a
lot of actors, a lot of amazing things and histories in past that need
to be brought to revelations. And with the rise of things like Reservoir Dogs
and a few other shows you're seeing, you're seeing the spotlight of talent of
people that haven't been seen before, and I think that will be recognized this
year. Lily Gladstone is my pick for Best Actress, even though Emma Stone
is nominated, and she was absolutely hilarious and Poor Things. Lily Gladstone had
this one scene of Reservoir Dogs season two that brought me to tears, and
she has She's just a minor character shows up from time to time and she
literally had me crying in my in my living room. She's fucking good.
So once again, according to social media, Poor Things and Emma Stone is
the popular favorite, so we'll see Best Actor. I'm gonna coin flip between
Bradley Cooper and Diyllian Murphy. I'm going for GMRT just because damn it,
Chuds represents I hope he gets it, but sorry, I'm betting on the
prettier people that life does. I'm going I'm going killing and Murphy as well.
Best Actor in supporting Roles Sterny K Brown, de Niro, Robert Downey
Jr. Gosling or Ruffalo. I think it will be Robert Downey Jr.
From What Yeah Again? I loved Ruffalo in Poor Things. He was hilarious,
but there was a comedy performance, so Best Director he was amazing.
I think chrisphan Nolan will probably get Best Director. He's never won before,
has he no one he's due? Yes, Corseys, He's probably not going
to be that much for Focus. I don't know who your ghost lam Famos
is. Call me philistine if you will, but I don't know. I
like that movie and it was pretty slickly directed. There's very much a movie
in the craft, I guess in the way it's presented. But no,
I've never heard of him before. They're probably not just going to break out
and get this. That's my predictions and what I care about. I know
ship that's animated film, because again, can you get a popular thing in
there? The Boy and the Hair elemental Pnemona Robot Dreams or Spider Man across
a spider Verse. It's probably going to be Spider Man, right, it's
the one ever has about that's I think it won the year before. I
think the first argue the first one of that series also one. So let's
get let's get a clean sweep. Mind you studio like me? Yeah?
I like me some miles morales. I do like a studio gambling. I
love a bit of whimsy, but I haven't seen it again. There's a
lot to look forward to. There's a lot to see. Maybe I should
stop being so fucking miserable anyway, speaking of not being miserable, join us
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