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Hey, everybody, welcome to the
show on this Monday afternoon. This is

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Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live
from these studios of wm n H ninety

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five point three FM and Glorious Downtown
Manchester, New Hampshire. I'm getting a

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little humid out there, but it's
a nice day otherwise. Also on Comcast

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are cross the nation and around the
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contact infolk show archives, etcetera,
etcetera. Today is Monday, June

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twelve, twenty twenty three. Jennius
here as well at the newsdesk. Hi

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there, Hello, Hello. So
we have what we call in broadcasting a

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cold open. Uh. We we
do these once in a while, and

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it's it's usually for kind of a
not great reason. It's usually because I

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have something heavy to to talk about
for a few minutes. So what we'll

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do is we're doing this. Usually
we open with a song, uh some

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sort of In fact, I found
a couple of As one could imagine,

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there are a lot of new and
very funny political song parodies coming out right

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now. But usually we opened with
a song uh, and then uh and

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then of course the theme music,
and then we get into the show.

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But we're gonna do this a little
bit separate, and then after we finish

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up this segment will kind of reset
and go into what would be our normal

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Monday afternoon show. But the reason
that I'm doing this to open today is

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because um, so and again,
most of you listening won't know this person,

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but some of you, I know, I have some people listening who

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definitely knew and loved this person very
much so. But I lost someone today

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with whom I had been active in
the music scene, and it's um,

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it was quite a shock to me. Jenny and I were in Dover today

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and while there, I received a
message on Facebook from a friend of mine,

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Matt Beauvaire, and Uh, Matt
and I used to play in a

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band called My Life Crisis. Uh
this Uh, this was back in the

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in the two thousands, which in
moments like this, you know, in

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some ways it seems like another lifetime, you know, and and in other

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ways it uh seems like it was
last week. And um, Matt informed

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me that Ben Brackett York had passed
away. And uh, if you,

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uh, if you follow me on
social media, you might already know this.

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You might be aware from my postings
earlier, and you might have seen

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the picture that I shared that uh, that Matt Beauvaire shared with me um

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band photo from that time, And
um, I was I was quite shocked

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by this. Uh Ben was.
I'm not sure if he was even forty.

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He might have been thirty eight,
thirty nine, he might have been

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forty, I'm not I'm not sure, but um, I don't know any

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details about what happened to him.
Um. Uh so I don't know.

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I don't know what it is,
but it's um um somebody, somebody really

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summed this up well. Uh someone
who had also been in the band but

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was not in the band at the
same time. Uh on social media,

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he's Peter Turgeon and he might be
listening. Although we called him Stump that

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was that was everyone's nickname for him. But he wrote this on Facebook.

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He said crazy. I was not
in the band when Ben was, but

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I knew of him. Sorry,
Matt, it is it is strange when

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you find out an ex bandmate has
passed. There is something about making music

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that creates a bond that people who
don't can't understand. And uh, that

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is that is very true. So
um, the band that we were in

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my life crisis. So at that
time, it was myself, Ben,

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Uh, Maddie, that's what we
called Matt Beover. He was Maddie and

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I was Matt. Actually I was
known as the don Uh that that became

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my nickname. I don't even remember
why, but uh and then Uh and

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Jesse Boland, who was our our
drummer at that point. And that's the

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lineup that's in that picture. And
if you see the picture on social media,

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Ben is the one with the big
smile on his face and he uh,

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he was just such a joy to
be around. It was, you

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know, not only making music with
him, but m he just had He

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was very funny. If I had
met him ten years later then I did,

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he and I would probably have ended
up doing a podcast together or something.

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He was just a very not just
creative musically, but just very very

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funny, very quick and we laughed
a lot. And um, you know

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it's I know it probably sounds cliche
to some, but a band can be

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very much a brotherhood and Uh,
I would say that honestly about every band

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I've been in, really, but
um my Life Crisis. Of all the

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bands I played in, that one, i'd say was probably the busiest in

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terms of that lineup. We we
really worked hard. We played a lot

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of shows. And this is the
weird thing. I said to Jesse Boland,

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the drummer on Facebook. I told
him that it's so strange to get

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this news today because it was just
yesterday. Literally it was yesterday. I

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was thinking about the time and I
became fixated on this memory. I don't

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know what made me think of it, but then once I started thinking about

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it, I became fixated on it. I was thinking about the time that

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we played two shows in one day
in two different states, because we had

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a show at the Bomb Shelter and
people who were active in the local music

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scene from that time, everybody knows
the Bomb Shelter and right on Eddie Road

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down. I think, well,
it's kind of kind of around not where

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Planet fitnesses, but around there,
and we had a show that night at

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the Bomb Shelter. We played there
a lot, but we got offered a

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show in Connecticut opening for some bands, and uh, I think it was

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in Hartford that we really wanted to
play, and uh, so I didn't

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want to say no. I was
in charge of all the booking. I

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would I would handle the booking of
the shows. That was one of one

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of my responsibilities, which I was
happy to do because I love, you

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know, always loved not only the
not only the being a musician, but

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also the business side of it too. Always enjoyed that not everyone does,

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certainly, but I always did,
always have. So I would handle all

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the booking. And um, I
really didn't want to say no to that

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show, but we were. We
prided ourselves on being very professional, so

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we also would do all that we
could to ever avoid canceling a show.

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We just we did not cancel shows. So I didn't want to cancel on

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the Bomb Shelter. So I remember
going to the Guys and U and I

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think I had talked to Ben about
it first, and I said, Hey,

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we've got that show at the Bomb
Shelter that day. What do you

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think of going to Connecticut first to
play this show. We go on early

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at this show, open for these
bands, and then we fly back to

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Manchester and we'll close out the night
at the Bomb Shelter and Ben was all

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for it. I honestly didn't think
everyone would necessarily say yes, these guys

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are gonna be like, Matt,
what are you doing to us? You're

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killing us here. But we just
we were trying to play as much as

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we possibly could. Everybody said yes, And I just remember now, granted,

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there's another part to the story which
I'm not going to get into.

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Things went a bit awry at the
bomb Shelter, but we did play our

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set. I'll leave that aside.
But I just remember how proud I was

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that day of Wow, I'm really
proud of my band. I'm really proud

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of these guys. You know.
Everyone was on board to do that,

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you know, and in hindsight,
it probably wasn't even worth it to do

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that, and it created a lot
of unnecessary but everybody was down for it.

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But you know, we were young, and we were just you know,

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we were ambitious, you know,
we were driven, you know.

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And and that lineup because with my
life crisis, um, there were several

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different lineups over the years. And
like I was telling you in the car

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earlier, I was the one person, like if you look at that picture

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that's on Facebook, the only original
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me. Um Ben Ben wasn't there
for the beginning or the end, but

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he was there in the middle when
we were like really busy and and that's

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that was one of the great things
about him being a part of the band.

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Not just was he a lot of
fun to be around, UM,

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just very very talented guitarist, creative
songwriter, UM, but he was also

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just so gung ho and down for
everything. You know he was. Um,

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he was every bit everybody has driven
as the rest of us. And

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UM, it was just h But
but but the thing I missed most,

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you know, just just being around
him was fun, you know, because

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it wasn't that band. It wasn't
like um just we saw each other at

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practice and at shows. Um,
you know, we would we would spend

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time socially together away from from the
band itself. UM. And that's the

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only band that I've been in where
maybe with the exception of the Jinkst,

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but even that was limited in that
way. That lineup of My Life Crisis

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was the only band I had ever
been in where I can say that that

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was consistently the case where we spent
you know, we enjoyed being around each

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other so much that we spent a
lot of time together socially, um,

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as well as as with the band, you know, doing doing band stuff.

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So UM, So I was.
I was quite shocked to get that

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message today. Um. Again,
I don't know what happened, but and

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I think he had a couple of
children, um, regret fully, and

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I did allude to this in my
post. Um. I had not seen

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or spoken to bed in quite a
few years. Um. Not because of

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any problem between us or anything like
that. Um, just because I'm really

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bad at you know, I'm not. I'm not someone who really goes out

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of my way to you know,
keep up with old friends. You know.

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It does, and that's not a
bad thing. It just is it

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does. And I and I certainly
don't think I certainly don't think there's anything

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unusual about that, you know.
I I think part of it is the

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human condition, because I think I
think most people are like that, really,

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I mean, UM, to be
honest with you, I also think

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that, you know, we talk
on the show a lot about social media

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and and the positives and negatives of
it, and I always say the positive,

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you know, the positives far outweigh
the negatives. But I think too.

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One of the one of the ways
that social media has kind of changed

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the nature of friendship is that it
almost in a way makes it. Ah,

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it's gonna it might sound strange,
but it's how how you know.

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I'm just I'm thinking about this stuff
because because of what happened. Um,

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I think in a way it almost
makes it. It almost offers an excuse.

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Excuse isn't the right word, but
I'm just kind of I've never tried

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to articulate any of this before,
but so we'll just go with excuse to

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kind of take people for granted in
a in a sense, because if you're

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on one hand, it's wonderful that
you can connect with people from the past

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so easily and and and get in
touch with them and so forth. But

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at the same time, I think
there's this thing that happens where, you

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know, once you're connected to somebody
on social media, it's kind of like,

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Okay, so we're still in each
other's lives. We're connected on Facebook,

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or we follow each other on Instagram
or whatever, and it's like,

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but that's not really still being a
part of each other's lives, but you

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kind of feel like it is in
a way, and then and then what

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is that? But what is that
really worth having been connected with someone on

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social media when they're gone? Like
like, if I'm connected to somebody on

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social media and it's someone who was
such an important part of my life and

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someone who I loved like a brother, um, but then I never actually

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talked to them because in the back
of my mind it's like, well,

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I know they're there, we're Facebook
friends. But but then one day they're

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gone, and it's like I am, you know, and then it's now

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I can't even you know, if
I just have the urge one day to

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just message him on just a simple
message, I can't even do that.

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He's gone, and and I,
uh, that's uh, that's a strange

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thing. I just uh. I
mean, if you take social media out

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of the equation, it's like,
you know, somebody passes away you didn't

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see for a long time, you
know, that's uh, that's uh,

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you know, and then and then
you know, you get the news and

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it's terrible. But then with social
media in the equation, it's like it's

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almost like you're connected with them.
It's almost like they're in the next room,

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like you live, like you're you're
living next door to each other in

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an apartment complex, right and there's
someone who matters to you. They're very

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important to you because they've had a
huge impact on your life. And it

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might have been you know, fifteen
sixteen, however many years ago, but

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they've had an important impact on your
life. But you never actually bothered to

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interact with them even though they're right
there next door, because you're you're connected

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on social media. You're good,
you know what I mean. Does any

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of this make sense? It does
make sense. This is all going through

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my head. See. The thing
about that is, like I have I

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can't know what you're feeling right now, absolutely cannot know what you're feeling right

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now, and I wouldn't even begin
to try. But I have I do

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have friends that I've been friends with
from you know, high school or even

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in my early twenties, um,
that were in my everyday life back then.

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Um, And they're not in my
everyday life right now, and they

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are very important to me. And
you know, if they reach out,

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I'm always right there. And if
I reach out, I know they're always

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right there. And it happens every
once in a while we'll have this interaction.

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You know where you reconnect for some
reason and it's like, yeah,

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you're still there. I know you're
still there. You know. Um,

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yeah, I don't want any I
can't imagine like what exactly you're feeling in

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this moment, but you can't.
It's not about the what if or the

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or the beat beat yourself up.
The important thing is that you're friends.

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You care about each other, and
if at any moment in time, either

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of you had reached out to the
other and said, hey, bro,

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I need you would have been right
there and heartbeat. That's that's friendship.

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Whether you speak to someone every day
or they cross your path every now and

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again, it doesn't degrade the friendship
that you have, and it doesn't belittle

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how much or how little communication you
have. Yeah, it's the um I

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think for me because I can't because
it's like uh my friend uh Stump who

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had I played with him in a
couple of different bands. Actually he was

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He was the original drummer for My
Life Crisis, So he wasn't in the

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band the same day as Ben was. He was the he was the original

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drummer, and then he left and
was replaced by a guy named Andrew Tried

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or and then he left and was
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I can't think of another instance like
this is the first, you know,

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like going through life, you know, you you have those firsts of losing

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people, like you know, like
you lose your like you lose your first

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family member, you know, like
like when somebody in your family passes away,

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you know, which obviously that you
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you know, usually pretty young,
you go through that the first and

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and that's that's always weird. And
then or or maybe your first co worker,

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you know, so you hear somebody
used to work with who passed so

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used to work with who passed away, and you go, wow, I

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haven't lost anybody I used to work
with. But this is the this is

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the only instance, at least unless
this is something happened to somebody else that

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I'm not aware of. Um,
this is the first instance of somebody I

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used to make music with who's passed
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it's it's uh. I don't know
if he even goes by Stump anymore.

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I should probably just call him Peter
Peter Turgeon for all I know.

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He doesn't even go buy stump anymore. But it's like he said, it's

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it's it's uh, there's a bond
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it's um, it's uh, it's
just really kind of jarring. It's like,

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that's my first the first person that
I ever had that bond with,

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that kind of a bond has passed
away. And and with that there's that

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feeling of and this this kind of
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was I'm saying before about you know, you're connected to somebody on social media,

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but you don't ever actually talk to
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that that worry about did they did
they leave without ever knowing? Because I

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certainly never told him, Did they
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meant to me and impacted my life? You know, it's like when um,

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like when when Normoody passed away.
Yeah, you know, I had

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a bond with him because that was
the first television show I ever did,

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was peing his co host on Norman
Friends, and I remember, you know,

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and for eight years I was his
co host, and that and being

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his co host led to a lot
of other opportunities. For example, I

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don't think there's any way I would
have ended up here doing this show on

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WMH had I not been Norm's co
host. That was my first, you

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know, real experience being behind a
microphone, where you know, I got

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to kind of build my on air
persona and have the confidence and whatnot.

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And I just I just remember going
Wow. I wonder did he ever real

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I always knew it, But did
he know how much he had done for

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me? Did he realize how much
of an impact he had had on my

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life? I think he did.
I'm not sure I think he did.

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But with Bennet's like, damn,
did he did? Did he have any

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idea? I hope so, But
I don't know because I never told him.

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I mean, I'm sure he's got
He had all the same memories that

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I did of being in the band
together, right, we shared all those

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great times. So hopefully he knew
from an outsider looking in the way that

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you the way that you treat people, the way that you interact with people.

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I can't imagine anybody in your in
your orbit that doesn't know what you

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feel about them. You're very good
about showing your appreciation to people and the

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way that you interact with them.
I just can't imagine anybody being in your

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circle. I'm not going you know, that's a really great guy. I'm

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glad he's in my life, you
know. Or you guys got to create

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things together. That's a magic in
and of itself that most people don't have

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as a part of friendship or even
as part of family. You you you

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birth things together, you created things
together other and music is something that's so

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special. Yeah, you know,
I would like to think, and I

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would think the person that you are
that I know you of now and I

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didn't know you then, I have
little doubt in my mind that the feelings

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weren't mutual. Yeah, it sounds
like a really great memories to hold on

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too, too. Oh. Absolutely
absolutely. It's so strange that just yesterday

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I was thinking about that that day
that we did the two shows, you

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know, because i'm you know,
and just in my day to day life.

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It's not like I spend a lot
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another lifetime, and in some ways
it seems like a last week. But

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the chapter, yeah, it's a
total chapter. Yeah, I am going

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to uh in a in a couple
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a song, one of the My
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what we'll do is well, we'll
play that and then we'll come back and

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like I said, we'll kind of
reset and do the to our regular opening.

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Although I do have a couple of
more songs that I will play throughout

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the show. I'll play a song
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I usually do, I'll play another
My Life Crisis song, and then one

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more to end the show later today
to kind of honor Ben. But um,

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I do want to look at these
Facebook chat comments too. I don't

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know if if either of the other
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Who were I was communicating with today, But Melanie la Liberty is in

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the chat. Hello Melanie, and
from of course the great State of Vermont.

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Mike from Queen City Cabinetry one of
our great sponsors here at WM ANDH,

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and of course Mike is one of
our co hosts on retro Spectrum Radio

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on Friday nights. He's in the
chat room. Fredo, or as I

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like to say his full name,
Alfredo Enrique Benavitis, who was on the

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show recently with Dank Sinatra. Hello, yes, yes, and he gave

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me quite a good number of references. Oh, good, good, excellent,

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excellent, Jenny, I see you're
in there. Of course, I'm

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everywhere. Fredo says, sorry for
your loss. Melanie says sorry. Matt.

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Isaac Banks from Greensboro, North Carolina
says, Matt, I'm sorry.

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Uh, let's see, Fredo says
Matt the Don Connerton, Yeah, I

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see. I have a funny thing
about that. You're Vanilla. How can

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you be the do? I was
the done. I can't see you as

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the Don. I was the Dawn. I think it was because I was

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kind of the business guy in the
band, so I was I was the

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don. Uh. You know,
if you want to book my life Crisis,

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you got to talk to the Dawn. I think it was like that.

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But but I also seem to recall
I think at one point there were

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there were two downs, because there
was because there were two Matts. There

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was myself and Matt Beauvaire, and
I seem to remember Matt deciding that we

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were the Downs of Conquered because we
were both Matt, so we were both

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done. I don't know, it's
it's it's it's all very fuzzy to me.

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But then he decided that kind of
like the Highlander in the end,

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there can only be one done.
So he decided that I was the Don,

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and then I became the Don.
It got to a point where no

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one called me Matt anymore. Like
it really caught on, like even even

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like just like friends of the band, when just started calling me the Don,

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and it was never done. It
was the down interesting. I think

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I think there were I think there
were people who came you were like the

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crap the whip die, huh.
I think there were people who came to

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our shows who who I'm serious when
I say this, I think there were

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people at our shows who genuinely did
not know my actual name was done.

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Yeah, yeah, it was what
did you guys have? Like a five

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o'clock show and then like a ten
o'clock How did you make the Oh that

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the day we did the two shows, I was expecting states next to one

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another nine it was Connecticut. That
surprises me. We yeah, we uh,

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you know, we were all always
networking. That was one of the

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reasons why we were able to play
so much. Like I said, that

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was by far the busiest lineup of
my life crisis. We played every weekend,

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usually both Friday and Saturday, maybe
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you know, but because we were
always networking, you know, we

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had a lot of connections, and
we had a lot of connections in Connecticut.

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And there was a promoter in Connecticut. It was name I cannot possibly

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remember, who really liked us and
what was always inviting us to play shows.

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So we were actually playing a lot
of shows in Connecticut. And yeah,

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he approached me about about this one
show, and there were other bands

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on the show we really wanted to
play with. He said, you guys

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can you guys want to come down
and open. By the way, gas

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was cheap at that time, so
you know, that wasn't what wasn't really

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a hardship traveling, not like it
is now. So m So it was

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seven o'clock we went on. We
had to be there for a six pm

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load in. We went on at
seven. I think we played for forty

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minutes as soon as we were done, and we were really efficient too,

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We were a well oiled machine.
We were very efficient. So we got

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there, played played our set.
I remember not wanting to leave, but

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we had to. I remember not
wanting to because everybody there was so nice.

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cool. We really wanted to stay
for the other bands, and we had

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to kind of sheepishly explain no,
sorry, we can't stay, but we

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got this other show. Again.
In hindsight, given the debacle we came

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back to when we got to the
Bomb Shelter, I wish we had just

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stayed. But yeah, yeah,
when we got when we got back to

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Manchester, we walked into something that
no fault of our own. It wasn't

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great, but but that place was
run not well at times. I have

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a lot of great memories of the
Bomb Shelter on Eddie Road here in Manchester,

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and some not so great ones,
but I don't want to get into

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that. But yeah, so we
played at seven. I think we're out

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of there. We were done by
five, out of the venue, packed

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up on the road, headed back
by eight. Really Oh yeah, oh

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yeah, that's quick. Oh yeah, oh there is Maddie's in the chat

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room. Matthew Bovair. He says, what's up down? Excuse me,

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that's the dawn. What's up the
dawn? He says, thanks, so

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much for doing this. It does
me some good listening to this. Thank

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you, my friend, thank you. Um and what time was just that

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here? Well, so we got
back yeah, so we got back to

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Manchester and then we so uh all
right, yeah, yeah, I'll go

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ahead and tell it. So,
yeah, we get back to Manchester.

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And the thing about the Bomb Shelter
was when that place first opened, well,

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notice it's no longer around and it
hasn't been around for a long time,

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and those reasons. When that place
first opened, it was great and

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it was it was a cool it
was a cool place to play. Serge

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who owned it, and his wife, they were very very nice and very

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friendly to everybody in the local scene
and very enthusiastic. But I think they

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spread themselves a little too thin after
a while. So on more than one

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occasion this happened where we would get
there and Surge wasn't there, and I

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think it was his brother, who
was a sound guy wasn't there, and

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it was like there was just nobody
in charge, and whoever was working there

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wasn't interested in being in charge.
So we get there and there's a bunch

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of bands booked, but nobody knows
what the lineup is supposed to be.

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Nobody knows what's going on, and
I think there were a couple of times

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where we actually it was situations where
it was okay because like all the bands

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that were playing that night kind of
knew each other and were friendly and were

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able to work out set times and
everything amongst ourselves. We had to take

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it up upon ourselves because nobody was
in charge, nobody was us anything.

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So after a while it started to
be run and I'm sure I'm sure Maddie

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remembers this. It started to be
run very sloppily that particular night. So

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we get there late. We had
worked it out with everybody, we were

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going to be getting there late because
we had the other show. Everybody knew

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that, every Surge knew, his
wife knew. I made sure everybody knew,

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everybody knew the deal, and everyone
was cool, and we get there

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and it's like so many bands booked. It's like usually you would see in

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those days. I don't think this
has really done much anymore. In those

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days, at a place like that, you would have five bands in a

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night wow, which would usually be
one too many, you know, four

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bands, even four bands would seem
crowded. But the idea was get as

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many bands in there as possible and
hope they all bring some people, get

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as many people in the door as
possible, and that, Yeah, that

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was the business model. And and
but I don't know if anybody really operates

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that way anymore, because frankly,
it's a failed business model. But yeah,

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there would very often be five bands
in a night. But I think

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that was one of those nights.
We got there and there's like eight bands

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booked because they overbooked because they were
disorganized, and somebody tells us, Okay,

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you guys are on next, and
so we're trying to load our gear

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on. Meanwhile there's this other band
also trying to load their gear on because

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somebody else told them they were on
next. And I think we won the

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argument, but I'm not sure it
was. It was just awful. Yeah,

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and then it was like, oh
god, we should have just we

409
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:44,119
should have just stuck around in Connecticut
and stayed for the other bands and then

410
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,759
come home. But you'll live in
you'll learn. But but like I said

411
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:49,640
earlier, though I was so at
the same time, I was just very

412
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,200
proud that, you know, everybody
in the band wanted to you know that

413
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,960
we, like I said, we
had a lot of ambition and everybody was

414
00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:00,319
up for it, you know,
doing the two shows. And I think

415
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:04,920
that's a nice feather any cat running
and gunning, you know, especially the

416
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,759
distance. Yeah, yeah, but
uh but yeah, it was quite a

417
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:15,160
Yeah, Maddie says that band was
not happy. Good thing. Our drummer

418
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,079
was the biggest guy in the club. Yes, yeah, Jesse Bowland rock

419
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:22,839
and rolling Jesse Boland, you know, And I was always uh and I

420
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:28,440
am to this day. I've always
been envious of his name because that's his

421
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:30,880
real name, Jesse Bolan. Yeah, such a such a rock and roll

422
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,480
name, Jesse Bolan. Jesse's a
good name. It's such a cool name.

423
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,279
But Bolan is cool to Jesse Bowl. It's just a cool It's just

424
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:43,039
a cool name, you know what
I mean. It is And m you

425
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:47,079
knows off the tongue. Now,
Matt Connerton not such a cool name.

426
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,440
I mean, it works well in
the name of a radio show, but

427
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,039
uh, you know, no wonder
they wanted to call him. I think

428
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,799
that's the real reason they called me
the dun because Matt Connerton is just there's

429
00:32:55,799 --> 00:33:00,960
nothing rock and roll about Matt Connerton. You know what I mean. Conton

430
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:06,680
is not uh Conorton does not scream
rock star. It's more like an internist,

431
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,599
I know, right exactly. I
think it sounds like a radio show

432
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:15,519
host. That's that's how you know. That's how I got the I'm not

433
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:17,200
going to start calling you the don
That's how I got the gig here.

434
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,519
You know what the wrong armed your
way in. No, that's how I

435
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:24,160
got the show. Because they were
auditioning. They were gonna have a show

436
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,920
called Matt Connerton Unleashed, and I
sent in, I applied and I said,

437
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,079
well, my name is Matt Connerton
and then uh and and it came

438
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:37,839
down to me and uh the one
other Matt Connerton in New Hampshire, who's

439
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,240
my uncle. But my uncle lives
on the seacoast. He would have had

440
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,279
to commute. So they said,
okay, I guess we'll give you the

441
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,559
show. But uh yeah, Maddie
says, uh, Beauvaire isn't very metal

442
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:51,960
l O L yeah. But even
Bouvaire is uh yeah, but that's uh,

443
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,039
at least it's I don't know,
it's French. Yeah, it's French,

444
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,319
so it's kind of metal, I
guess, right, I don't know.

445
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,440
I don't know. I don't know
if that's I just know that my

446
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:04,519
name is my name was always in
any band I've ever been in. My

447
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:10,320
name was the least metal. That's
all I know. He's just we You

448
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,440
should try and like play with it, maybe like spell it with some symbols

449
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:19,440
or something. Oh or maybe change
the sea or k and do some accenting.

450
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,760
I don't know, right, yeah, right. Mike from Queen City

451
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,840
Cabinetry said, is that like Greg
Brady getting me Johnny Bravo gig. That's

452
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,960
right. I fit the suit.
That's how I got the show when it's

453
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,840
time to change. That's how I
got in all the bands I was into.

454
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:37,239
That's how I got the You know, it's not like I could actually

455
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:43,920
play the bass. Stop shit,
don't be that way. Fredo in the

456
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,679
Fredo in the chat room says,
uh, you know talking about you know

457
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,880
what I was talking about earlier.
About social media. He says, it's

458
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,360
all part of processing the grief.
Social media is online, and social media

459
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,880
only friends are really just acquaintances.
He was your end in real life,

460
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:06,199
and there's a gap that social media
will never bridge. Yeah, And Mike

461
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:14,360
says, I very well put uh
Fredo, yes, yes, Um,

462
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:17,800
all right, well we will uh
well, we'll play Uh well, we're

463
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,039
gonna play a song and then we'll
we'll move on. But uh, thank

464
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:28,679
you all and uh you know again, condolences to uh to everybody the family

465
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,400
and uh like I said, I
think he had a couple of daughters,

466
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:38,239
if I'm not mistaken. Um uh
Ben Brackett York from again, just just

467
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,119
wonderful memories from being in in that
band with him and of course with uh

468
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:49,800
with Maddie Beauvaire and Jesse Boland and
everybody else who played and uh you know,

469
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:54,079
Dave Blaize, he and Ben were
at one point we had there was

470
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:59,400
some that was kind of the bridge
between lineups where both Dave Blaze and uh

471
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,039
Ben we're on guitar. In My
Life Crisis we were sometimes we were a

472
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:07,480
four piece and sometimes we were a
five piece. That fluctuated over the years.

473
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:15,079
But um, now, just just
so many, uh so many wonderful

474
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:21,920
memories and uh I love you,
Ben, and uh we will um we

475
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,440
will finish the segment with and again
I will. I am gonna play a

476
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,960
couple more My Life Crisis songs later
in the show. But we're we'll finish

477
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,239
this segment and then we'll uh and
then we'll move on to some other h

478
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,960
I don't know if you all have
noticed, but there's been a lot going

479
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,599
on in the news really, like
what, well, was there a storm

480
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:46,639
somewhere. I've heard the word I've
heard the word espionage recently. No,

481
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:51,320
no, no, no, pretty
heavily. Anyway, we will so we'll

482
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,599
we'll move on in the next segment, but we're gonna close out with this.

483
00:36:53,639 --> 00:37:00,239
I'm gonna play this is a song
called House of Pain from My Life

484
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,280
Crisis. This was kind of a
kind of a crowd favorite. Um actually,

485
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,960
I think this song actually spanned every
lineup of the band over the years.

486
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:13,000
But um, yeah, this was, like I said, this was

487
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,480
a this was a crowd favorite.
And uh and and Maddie's vocal on this

488
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:23,679
is incredible. He really uh emotes
as we say. So. Uh So

489
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,320
let's give this a listen and then
we'll show some love to our amazing sponsors,

490
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,800
and then we'll kind of back,
we'll kind of we'll come back and

491
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,559
kind of reset for the rest of
the show. So don't go anywhere anywhere

492
00:37:35,599 --> 00:38:12,840
but here it is. This is
House of pain, my life crisis and

493
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:20,039
none, I said with an empty
page, mighty heart fields up with rage,

494
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:29,519
trying to pull into words one of
trying the same in a stand space

495
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:36,559
with my sleep be eyes lighting a
beer had a real line just how you

496
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:59,800
entire was never meant to pay.
Why my God, lie up time tie

497
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:28,960
It is unfair because it has no
choice, no opinion, send no clear

498
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:37,760
voice. It didn't ask to be
born into this world. Now I can

499
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:45,039
promise and I'll be there to love
your child with your cold and hair into

500
00:39:45,199 --> 00:40:06,280
my best to shield you promote this
hell must bring up bright stie, I

501
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:12,480
tie up, But it's a stile
blin lakesime now way, time must bring

502
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:45,159
up my bright silve like he sign
up sile blind lakes out way. Time

503
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:57,760
must bring up my time up with
a stile blind lakes up away. Time

504
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:22,559
must bring up now, I said
in my page, is falling in debriate

505
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:34,039
and feeling you know, feeling better
and feeling there's no way down. And

506
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,440
I swear I thought I could clear
up again, Just swear I thought that

507
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:50,880
it was the year you remy yell
the face with a new start, feeling

508
00:41:54,320 --> 00:42:07,639
my God bring up SISI so b
myself now always time the buff and bring

509
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:43,519
up bright and sounds. The last
he insis song my sound time and bring

510
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:58,840
up BUSSI last time like my sound
away time UF and bright up sis Boo.

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532
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:32,639
know, my dad really likes that
song also Pained by My Life Crisis.

533
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,159
That's cool. Yeah, yeah,
he always he always said that was a

534
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:38,320
favorite of Vase. He likes a
lot of different music. Your dad's very

535
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,239
hip, that's right, that's right. Welcome everybody. This is Matt Connerton

536
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,519
Unleashed and we are live from these
studios of w M HIM and Glorious Downtown

537
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,679
Manchester, New Hampshire, also on
Comcast ninety seven if you're in Manchester and

538
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,119
you can go to my website Matt
Connerton dot com for all your live streaming

539
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:59,639
options, social media links, contact
info, show archives, et cetera.

540
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:05,760
At c it is Monday June twelve, two thousand twenty three. Jenny is

541
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,760
here at the news desk, president
accounted for and the studio line is open.

542
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,199
If you'd like to join us today
six ZO three two five O six

543
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,280
Z seven six ZO three two five
h six Z seven. You can also

544
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,760
text me at six one seven nine
one seven four four seven six. I'm

545
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,239
on social media at Matt Connerton.
You can email me Matt at matt Connerton

546
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,079
dot com and of course you can
interact undo Pine in the Facebook live chat.

547
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:30,639
But the best thing to do so
that we can here and enjoy your

548
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,440
dulcet tones is give us a call
at six O three two five oz six

549
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:39,760
O seven. And by the way, I do want to um mentioned so

550
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:44,920
you know. During our first segment
we talked about the passing of my friend

551
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:50,039
and former bandmate Ben Brackett York.
If you know, we'll we're gonna move

552
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,480
on to some other things. But
if anyone wants to call in, if

553
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:55,000
anyone who uh, you know,
any of my former bandmates or anyone at

554
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:58,280
all, does want to call in
and say anything about Ben, I'm not

555
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,719
saying that we're going to leave that
entirely behind as we proceed with the show.

556
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,440
You know, we're gonna we are
going to get into some other some

557
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:08,360
news items and so forth. But
if, but if you do want to

558
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,760
talk, if anyone wants to talk
about Ben, we certainly can do that

559
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,800
as well. So I don't want
anyone to feel like, Okay, that's

560
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,280
it. We've moved on. Um, and I am going to be playing

561
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,840
some more My life crisis later in
the show. So so the studio line

562
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,599
is open for anyone for any reason. Six zo three two five O six

563
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:31,199
Z seven six three two five six
seven, Um, Yes, what do

564
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:37,880
you want to talk about? Well, uh, it does seem I don't

565
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,159
know, I mean it seems like
the news. Yeah, I don't I

566
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:45,199
don't have that queued up. Oh
you know what, though, I'm going

567
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:51,519
to be creating a new soundboard for
myself because if you noticed over the past

568
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,480
I don't know, months, probably
maybe maybe even a year, that you

569
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:59,800
don't hear the uh you know the
you have some sound clips we'd hear on

570
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,039
the show. Yeah you know why
those went away? Why because the website

571
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:08,519
that I was using, soundboard dot
com, it uh, it started having

572
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:10,960
all kinds of weird issues. And
I thought you were gonna say it was

573
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,119
all gone, like gone gone,
isn't. Well no, So here's here's

574
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:20,400
the thing. Now, when I
go to sound so after months I had

575
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,400
given up on it, I would
go to soundboard dot com. The website

576
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,320
would come up, it would let
me sign in and everything. But then

577
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,719
if I would try to go to
any of my soundboards, I would get

578
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,559
this weird error message. And if
I tried to go to somebody else,

579
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:35,079
any other soundboards that are listed,
because if you put a soundboard on soundboard

580
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:39,000
dot com, it is public,
so anyone. That's why it's free because

581
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:43,360
other people can use it too.
So then the other day, after not

582
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,840
going on soundboard dot com for a
long time, I went on and it's

583
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:51,280
a new website and everything is restored, everything works again. So they must

584
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,360
have been doing some sort of migration
or they needed to move to a new

585
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,760
server. But I have my soundboards
back. Oh yes, I have.

586
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:05,480
I have my virtual Dave Ridley soundboard
bat, I have my I think I

587
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,639
have my virtual John Hopwood soundboard back. Oh yes, um, I have

588
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:15,119
one. I have. I have
a soundboard back that I can't actually technically

589
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:19,280
use anymore on the show for reasons
we won't get into here. I know

590
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,199
what it is. Um now,
the only one I don't have for some

591
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,119
reason, although let me try logging
in again. Do you have the ghost

592
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:30,400
of John McCain. Well, that
one wasn't mine, so that one never

593
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,280
Actually I just stopped doing that one
because I felt like the bit played itself

594
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,719
out. Yeah, um, the
only one I had. I had one

595
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,719
about I had one for Trump that
I had built. That one seems to

596
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,320
have disappeared, figures right, I
had that. I had that one where

597
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:52,239
you know, somebody's basement. Yeah, maybe it's in somebody's basement, it's

598
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,320
not right. I had that.
I had that Trump one where my favorite

599
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,760
clip of all time was when he
goes I suit. You know, I

600
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:00,679
I'm terrible at him rashions, as
you know. But the one where he

601
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,280
goes I stoomed up here giving speeches
for an hour and a half, many

602
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,000
times without notes. I just love
that. That's like my favorite Trump clip

603
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:12,559
ever and that. But that one
is gone. I bet you can find

604
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:15,280
it though. Yeah, I've tried. I'll try again, though. But

605
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,360
the other ones I have, everything
is restored. It's it's wonderful. Why

606
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,639
am I talking about that again?
How did I end up on that?

607
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,760
Um? I don't know. I
don't know either. Jay Fed says in

608
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,039
the chat room, did you see
any boxes in the news? Well,

609
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:34,719
I tell you what a lot.
I've seen a lot of boxes. I've

610
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,159
seen boxes on top of boxes.
By the way, I wanted we got

611
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:43,840
to defend him on on one thing
because so I said this on Facebook too.

612
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,840
Melanie had posted a picture of you
know, the beautiful bathroom with the

613
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,639
boxes and you've got the wonderful You've
got the chandeliers and everything, And I

614
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:54,519
said, I said on Facebook,
you know, it could have been worse.

615
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:58,559
He could have he could have shoved
them in the you know, in

616
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:00,679
the bathroom of the local circle,
okay up the street. But instead they're

617
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:06,599
in this very nice bathroom with chandeliers. Nice tight. I mean, listen,

618
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:13,480
if you're going to I think this
and that, well, that's disgusting.

619
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:20,320
I I think if you're going to
look, if you have uh,

620
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,400
boxes and boxes and boxes of classified
information, if you're going to put them

621
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,440
in the bathroom, it might as
well be a fancy bathroom. So I

622
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,039
say, he got that one right, and I will defend him on that.

623
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:32,800
It might be the only thing I
ever defend him on. But at

624
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,000
least it's a fancy bathroom. He
didn't put it to qualify his fancy what

625
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:39,599
it's not so big. All I
know is I see chandeliers. I say,

626
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:44,960
fancy schmancy bathroom. Is uh,
that's that's fancy. I mean I've

627
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,480
never I don't think in my life
I've ever been inside a bathroom with chandeliers.

628
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,119
So I see chandeliers and I go, that is fancy. You should

629
00:52:52,159 --> 00:52:59,760
put some classified documents in here.
It's ego and a half boy m ballroom.

630
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,960
And he says in the chat it
was a single sink bathroom, so

631
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:07,400
you know it was a servants bathroom. See that's a good point. I

632
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,679
had no tub, just to stand
up shower. Oh I hadn't thought of

633
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,840
that. Yeah, I hadn't thought
of that. That ain't a special people.

634
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,039
So maybe that poor folk, maybe
that was not an appropriate place to

635
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:22,079
put those of that is what you're
saying, all right, But somebody who

636
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:24,559
grew up the way he grew up, I wouldn't expect to be able to

637
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:28,880
think quite clearly. I'm trying to
keep an open mind. He's just used

638
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:34,639
to having his arms wide open,
going mine, mine, mine. He

639
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,679
was born that way. Paul played
that Friday night on Retrospectrum Radio. Mine

640
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:45,519
well, arms one open by that
one, Melanie. Melanie also points out,

641
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:49,400
and it wasn't gold plated. This
is true. That's uh, that's

642
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,559
true too, Okay, definitely for
the probably definitely the servant level bathroom,

643
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:55,639
for certain. I know that's what
it is. I know why though,

644
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,079
I know why if he has kicking
on anything that's not gold if he had

645
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:04,719
put it, if he had put
it in a nicer bathroom than that bathroom,

646
00:54:05,079 --> 00:54:10,679
people would have gotten suspicious. People
would have said, hey, why

647
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,639
is he putting those boxes in the
really nice bathroom? Who had to use

648
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:20,079
that bathroom? I like Melanie's point, who had to use that bathroom?

649
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:27,440
And then what happens when you flush? Well, I don't even want to

650
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,480
think about that. I'm sure the
paper. I'm sure the good people at

651
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:37,440
the FBI wore gloves, I hope
so, and masks maybe and inhale that

652
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:42,360
stuff. Charles Charles Richardson joins us
in the chat. He says, I

653
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,119
think if there is a TV in
the bathroom, that would be my throne.

654
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,000
I don't remember seeing a television in
that particular bathroom, though I could

655
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,599
believe him being somebody that he's to
have a TV in the bathroom. Oh

656
00:54:52,679 --> 00:55:00,199
well. Um, and Isaac Banks
says a high hashtag gen coffee, what's

657
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:05,800
your favorite hoodie? And the blowfish
song is? Is it hold my Hand

658
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:08,719
or old Man and Me? So
you have two choices, Okay, I'll

659
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:17,840
go with hold my hand. Okay, here we go Nextum, Melanie says,

660
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,519
I like Melanie's point. I get
that a lot. Well, you

661
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:24,199
know, when you're right, you're
right, very nice. It's just has

662
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,920
how it has to be. So
he is, uh, he should be

663
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,239
in Florida now, right. He
was taken off on the plane and he's

664
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,719
in Florida now. Not for long, not for long. He has to

665
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:43,199
turn himself in to be formally arrested
by the FDPI. Sometime tomorrow. They

666
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,719
haven't given us a time slot.
But then he jumps right back on a

667
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:52,199
plane, goes right back to his
New Jersey golf estate for a fundraiser because

668
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:55,159
of course he's gonna make money,
because he's gonna be begging for money out

669
00:55:55,199 --> 00:55:58,719
of this. Oh, give me
money. Oh he barely asked a beg.

670
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,960
I mean, he raked a lot
of I don't remember the number,

671
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,159
and they do. They just throw
it at him. He raped in a

672
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:08,400
lot of money over the weekend.
They just throw it at him. Yeah,

673
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,519
it's awful. Well, uh,
you know, it's a business,

674
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:15,599
and business is good for him.
It always has been. I mean,

675
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:22,880
you know, his ego outweighs everybody's
truth or opinion. I suppose, including

676
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,679
truth, real truth, just cold
hire truth. That man decides the sky

677
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,239
is purple, he'll pay and pay
and pay until everybody around him says it's

678
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:39,239
purple. Um, there may be
already there may have already emerged an escape

679
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:45,199
hatch. By the way, So
for everyone who thinks, oh, oh

680
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,400
hello to Tom Sapienza, who joins
us in the chat room high top.

681
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,840
For everyone who thinks that, uh
that this is that you know, this

682
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,679
is the thing that's going to bring
him down not so fast. Um,

683
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:05,280
is the name Eilean Cannon familiar to
you? No, okay, So Eilean

684
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,880
Cannon is the judge, Oh yeah, who got smacked down by the Eleventh

685
00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:17,079
Circuit before when when this uh,
when this case originally initially went before her,

686
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,920
um over the special Master and everything, and really, uh, they

687
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:29,800
felt that and these these judges,
the panel on the Eleventh Circuit conservative judges.

688
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,199
The Eleventh Circuit is very conservative,
many of them appointed by Trump,

689
00:57:35,239 --> 00:57:40,719
many of them Trump appointed judges.
Uh. They said that she clearly uh,

690
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:45,039
in at least two instances, really
put her thumb on the scale in

691
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:49,559
favor of Trump, showed a lot
of favoritism towards Trump. And uh so

692
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:53,719
she got smacked down for that.
Well, guess who's in charge of somehow

693
00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:00,559
magically pulled to be the supposed supposedly
allegedly this is uh, she was chosen

694
00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:06,320
at random. Supposedly. I don't
know. I ain't buying it, but

695
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,760
all right, well I don't know. I mean, I will you know,

696
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,960
coincidences are possible. I'm not one
of these people who says I don't

697
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,440
believe in coincidences. I do believe
in coincidences, and uh so that that

698
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:21,239
may very well be, but this
could be this could be the escape hatch

699
00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:24,440
for him because here's the thing.
She's in charge. I can see a

700
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:30,719
couple of different ways that this could
go where he actually gets out of this

701
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:32,880
this. Now, this doesn't make
his other legal issues go away, but

702
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,360
the most severe legal issue is this. He may yet get out of this

703
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:40,079
because a couple things that she could
do. I mean, first of all,

704
00:58:40,159 --> 00:58:44,760
she's going to be in charge of
scheduling this thing. She could say,

705
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:46,119
you know, there's no way we're
going to be able to try this

706
00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:50,639
case until twenty twenty five. Oh, I believe that. I believe that's

707
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:52,639
going to happen. They're already trying
to. Yeah, right now, that

708
00:58:52,760 --> 00:59:00,679
that could very well happen. Now
if she does that and the Eleventh does

709
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,760
not overrule her on that, and
I'm not sure exactly, I mean,

710
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,800
you know, I'm not a legal
expert, and I don't know exactly how

711
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,119
that all works, all the processes
they're in. But if she does that,

712
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,920
then what could happen conceivably is he
could win. If he wins the

713
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,639
election, as soon as he's president, this goes away he'll be in charge

714
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:22,840
of the Department of Justice. This
goes away in pardon himself. Well,

715
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,559
maybe maybe there was talk that he
was going to do that before he left

716
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:30,360
office. Yeah, that's that's still
an open question because it's never been tested.

717
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,679
They're different opinions on whether a president
can or cannot pardon himself. I

718
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:37,199
don't think you can if there isn't
a charge on the books, and it

719
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:40,119
can only be been a charge on
the books, then I think maybe it

720
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:45,280
was possible, and it can only
be for federal crimes, not state which

721
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,159
I didn't even know until a few
years ago. He has charged federally on

722
00:59:47,199 --> 00:59:51,840
this one, im this one.
Yeah, so right. So the other

723
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,480
thing that could happen is she might
not you know, she might say,

724
00:59:57,039 --> 01:00:04,280
Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and
schedule the and um. But then Trump's

725
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,679
defense team could make emotion saying,
you know, come on, now,

726
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:12,840
this isn't you can't. You can't
try this case before the election. He's

727
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:15,159
not only is he a former president
of the United States, but he's an

728
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:20,239
active candidate for the presidency. You
can't try this case during an election.

729
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,800
And you see, if the arrayment
itself gets pushed back because he still doesn't

730
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,079
have a Florida qualified attorney to represent
him. Well, there is that.

731
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,280
That's another potential wrinkle. But I'm
just saying, Eileen Cannon may just give

732
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,159
him an escape hatch and say no, no, no, we're just we're

733
01:00:36,159 --> 01:00:37,920
delaying. We're delaying this. You
know, if she decides that, in

734
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,559
other words, if the defense team
makes that motion and she says, yeah,

735
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:45,800
sounds good, We'll just delay this
till after the election, no problem.

736
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:52,280
So don't think that, uh,
you know, anybody who's crowing about,

737
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,400
well, this will be his undoing, not necessarily. Um did also

738
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,400
just schedule it for December? I
mean, Bill Barr said he's toast,

739
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:02,519
but but that's uh, doesn't mean
anything. Oh and by the way,

740
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:07,440
about about Bill Barr, William Barr, who certainly I think was very loyal

741
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:13,800
to Trump, uh during his tenure
as Attorney general. This is just kind

742
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,519
of a side note. But Trump
made uh, you know, we heard

743
01:01:16,519 --> 01:01:21,239
it together. Trump made a fat
joke about Bill Barr, just like he

744
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:30,800
recently made a fat joke about Chris
Christie jerk. Um. I just don't

745
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:37,159
understand, uh, like, does
he not realize he's overweighted himself? That's

746
01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:42,440
not how a bully works. The
man is a bully. He's been a

747
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,480
bully since he was born. Anytime
he wants something, he gets it.

748
01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:50,000
He only knows that if he pushes
hot enough, he gets what he wants.

749
01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:52,360
No, but I just wonder is
there something first time in his life

750
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,840
he hasn't been able to do that. Is there something psychological though, where

751
01:01:54,880 --> 01:02:00,280
he just doesn't like, I'm serious, because the psycholog do you have?

752
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,559
This type of thing is just really
interesting to me. Is there something psychological

753
01:02:02,639 --> 01:02:07,880
where he just doesn't know? Like
he just doesn't realize he doesn't say.

754
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,639
I doubt he sees himself in the
same category. I agree with you on

755
01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:14,920
that one. Yeah, but he
doesn't know how to be nice to anybody

756
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:19,280
that he perceives as being on the
wrong side. The minute he thinks that

757
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,280
you've done something he doesn't like,
you get a nickname, or you get

758
01:02:22,599 --> 01:02:27,119
harassed, or you get you know, called things or fat jokes like he

759
01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:30,159
did today. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's just who this man

760
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:35,039
is. He is an absolute bully, and he leads every ounce of his

761
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:39,199
decision making with his ego. So
here's what this is from insider an opinion

762
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:44,920
don't you think? Insider says,
So, you think they've got Trump right

763
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,840
where they want him? A wait
till you hear what this former federal prosecutor

764
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,079
turned high in defense attorney has to
say. So some bullet points from this.

765
01:02:52,119 --> 01:02:54,840
It says, it sure looks like
they've got Trump where they want him,

766
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,880
except he's probably going to get a
favorable judge and she'll have enormous power

767
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,719
to prevent Trump from getting convicted.
So some details here. It says,

768
01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:07,960
if you think the former president is
finally really actually, but for real this

769
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:12,360
time, about to face justice,
hold on for just one moment. He

770
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,880
may have an easy out. Yes, it sounds like this new indictment against

771
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,840
Trump is a pretty strong one.
Even Fox News's top legal comment or thinks

772
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,440
so. He called it extremely damning, and I guess that's a reference to

773
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,880
Bill Barr. And when we're not, I'm sorry, And we're not seeing

774
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,480
nearly as much skepticism as we saw
after Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's indictment either,

775
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:37,920
But one former federal prosecutor turned high
in defense attorney, Ken White,

776
01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:42,000
sees a quick path out of trouble
for Trump. He said, all Trump

777
01:03:42,119 --> 01:03:45,360
needs is a judge completely in the
tank for him, a judge who is

778
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,280
willing to sacrifice their reputation in order
to protect him. White thinks Trump might

779
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,960
get one judge I lean Cannon,
and by the way, that does seem

780
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:58,960
to be the case. As my
colleagues, including Kimberly Leonard, reported Friday,

781
01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:03,840
Cannon was why criticized last year when
she ruled that an independent arbiter would

782
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,320
have to review all the documents at
the fbi c's from mar Lago. The

783
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:13,800
Department of Justice appealed the decision and
was rewarded with a brutal rebuke of Cannon

784
01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:18,039
by the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals. The SmackDown was particularly notable because it

785
01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:24,199
came from a panel of judges that
included several appointed by Republicans in addition to

786
01:04:24,239 --> 01:04:28,440
being a fancy defense lawyer who also
co hosts a legal podcast with Josh Barrow

787
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:33,400
called Serious Trouble. Reflecting on Cannon's
ruling to a point an independent arbiter called

788
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:40,280
a special Master, and other decisions
she made during the government's investigation into Trump's

789
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:45,880
handling of classified documents, Barrow said
to White on the podcast that Kennon has

790
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,480
shown a quote willingness to behave in
a way that most judges likely would not,

791
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:56,559
even if they were partisan Republicans unquote. White replied, sure, she's

792
01:04:56,599 --> 01:05:00,039
willing to violate the meat loaf rule. I'll do anything for love, but

793
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:03,559
I won't do that unquote. I
didn't know that was Apparently that's I don't

794
01:05:03,559 --> 01:05:09,119
know if that's a technical legal parlance, the meat low rule, But that's

795
01:05:09,159 --> 01:05:14,280
interesting. White said that there are
usually a number of factors that smooth even

796
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:18,320
partisan judges out and move them into
the middle. He listed a few quote

797
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:23,280
their relationship with other colleagues, their
reputation, they're hopes to be elevated to

798
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,960
a higher bench, their place in
history, you know, cocktail party's opinion

799
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:31,360
of lawyers, all that sort of
thing. But sometimes judges just don't give

800
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,760
a blank. And Judge Cannon's behavior
in this case in the past was several

801
01:05:36,159 --> 01:05:42,360
very long strides in this direction of
don't give a blank unquote. Why it

802
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,920
suspects Cannon maybe imagining what she might
be able to get out of a second

803
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:51,000
Trump presidency, He said, quote, you have a situation where it is

804
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:57,480
not even remotely difficult to imagine her
acquitting Trump. Trump getting elected Trump elevating

805
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:00,400
her to the Eleventh Circuit or the
Supreme Court. He would totally do it.

806
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,440
His fans would be completely fine with
it, and it would be just

807
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:08,000
a giant middle finger to the country. And I mean he would do it

808
01:06:08,159 --> 01:06:12,280
unquote. So how exactly, now
this is now guests of the important part.

809
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:17,519
So how exactly could Cannon protect Trump
and end this case against him?

810
01:06:17,559 --> 01:06:24,960
In a moment, White said,
quote, she can delay things forever by

811
01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:30,000
making rulings that cannot be appealed.
She can make rulings that, while they

812
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:33,559
don't tank the case, make it
very difficult, like excluding evidence by saying

813
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:40,320
evidence was wrongfully gathered. And that
can be something that is a very unfavorable

814
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:45,079
standard on appeal. So, for
instance, if she started to rule all

815
01:06:45,079 --> 01:06:50,000
these statements Trump made, that's too
prejudicial, it's unfair. I'm keeping it

816
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:55,360
out. If that goes up on
appeal, that's an abuse of discretion standard,

817
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,639
and normally you can't appeal it before
the case unquote. White went on

818
01:07:00,719 --> 01:07:05,679
to say how Cannon could go even
further quote most drastically, she can do

819
01:07:05,719 --> 01:07:11,239
things that can't be repaired once a
jury is impaneled. She can dismiss the

820
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,679
case and there's not a thing anyone
can do about it. Double jeopardy attaches

821
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:20,440
you're done. She can grant a
motion for directed verdict of acquittal after the

822
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:26,159
government's case, and then we're done. You can't be retired, can't be

823
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:32,119
reviewed, it's over. Unquote White's
analysis on the Serious Trouble podcast left Borrow

824
01:07:32,119 --> 01:07:36,000
a little stunned. Borrow asked White, quote, is it possible that the

825
01:07:36,039 --> 01:07:40,800
Department of Justice is walking us into
a situation that not only could fail to

826
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:45,639
obtain convictions here, but they could
end up setting off a chain of events

827
01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:50,559
that's quite damaging to the federal judiciary. Absolutely, White said. He went

828
01:07:50,599 --> 01:07:55,039
on, quote, people are saying
that by charging Trump, you're rilling up

829
01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:58,039
his base, You're made him more
likely he's going to get elected, and

830
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:00,880
then he's going to have a more
conservative judicialry. Andslayed himself more a pardon

831
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,440
himself, all this type of stuff. And it's all true, and that

832
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:09,760
is perfectly possible. But if you're
the DOJ, you can't think that way.

833
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:15,159
Okay, you simply can't think that
we now have to retreat from rule

834
01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:18,239
of law because it's too politically costly. If they do that, they're basically

835
01:08:18,239 --> 01:08:24,520
sort of giving up quote. So
so there you go. So they lay

836
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:31,079
out on that podcast multiple possibilities.
Yeah, this could drag on until after

837
01:08:31,119 --> 01:08:38,079
his presidency if he got reelected again
legitimately could well that's the thing. Yeah,

838
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:41,720
Um maybe if he's found guilty,
I mean, it still be president.

839
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,239
Well another possibility is so it gets
delayed until after his presidency, so

840
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:50,520
then he's uh so then if he
gets elected and he serves four years,

841
01:08:51,079 --> 01:08:55,159
and then uh, how does that
work with his clarence and then when he's

842
01:08:55,159 --> 01:08:59,800
out, oh, with his scarce
security clarence, if you're under investigation for

843
01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:03,960
aking your security clearance, I don't
know. I'm sure there's plenty of people

844
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:10,720
in the intelligence agencies who I'm sure
there's enough people who are who will find

845
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,279
a way to make sure that you
know, Trump loyalists. Because here's the

846
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:21,000
thing about that, something that people
forget because it kind of went a little

847
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:27,199
bit under the radar. But when
Trump lost the election, do you remember

848
01:09:27,239 --> 01:09:30,680
this, he started, Um,
he started changing out a lot of personnel

849
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:35,239
in government, in the intelligence agencies. Yes, and it didn't make any

850
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:41,239
sense because why would but there was
a repent, But there was a reason.

851
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,840
So why, why would you see
because you've never seen anything like this

852
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,159
before that there were a number of
things with this election we'd never seen before

853
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:51,000
in the aftermath of it, of
course, like January sixth, but something

854
01:09:51,039 --> 01:09:55,960
that went a little bit under the
radar that not everyone might realize. So

855
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,640
he started appointing people, getting rid
of people after he had already lost.

856
01:10:01,079 --> 01:10:04,359
Now, why would you do that
if you're the outgoing president and a new

857
01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:08,319
administration is coming in, you don't
do that. You don't mess with it.

858
01:10:08,359 --> 01:10:11,920
Would It would be the equivalent of
you know, you're working at a

859
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:16,279
job and you've given you know,
you've given your two weeks notice you're leaving,

860
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:18,760
but on your way out. In
that last two weeks, you make

861
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:25,359
a bunch of personnel decisions for an
office that you're not even gonna be managing

862
01:10:25,359 --> 01:10:29,319
anymore as soon. It wouldn't make
sense, right, But there's a concept

863
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,199
called the burrowing in, and that's
what Trump was doing. He was putting

864
01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:38,119
people loyal to him in place,
even though he was on his way out,

865
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,840
and he knew he was on his
way out, but he was hiring

866
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,039
all these people and putting them in
place. Why would you do that?

867
01:10:45,399 --> 01:10:47,600
Because you're going to be trying to
get back there someday and you're going to

868
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:53,520
need those people. So if he
has enough of those people in place,

869
01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:58,479
if he even if you know,
there's obvious questions about his security clearance,

870
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,479
if he is reelected, well he's
got people in place to make sure,

871
01:11:01,039 --> 01:11:04,920
No, he has a smooth ride
with all of that. He's he's already

872
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,840
got the Yeah, like you said, the Pentagon. Yeah, he made

873
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,720
sure he burrowed in. That's what
it's called burrowing in. Just usually nobody

874
01:11:13,119 --> 01:11:15,560
to help him out too. I
mean, look at him, what do

875
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,159
you mean all the changes that they've
made, they're you know, they're they're

876
01:11:19,159 --> 01:11:26,359
helping them out. I'm sure,
um, you know. Yeah, we

877
01:11:26,399 --> 01:11:29,640
are just past the top of the
hour. So let's um, let's take

878
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,600
a break. I'm gonna play another
My Life Crisis song if you're just joining

879
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,640
us. My Life Crisis if you
don't know. My Life Crisis was a

880
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:41,359
band that I was in with my
friend Ben Brackett York, who I got

881
01:11:41,399 --> 01:11:45,039
the word today that he has passed
away. So to honor him, we're

882
01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:48,840
playing a few My Life Crisis songs
today. So we're gonna play, um,

883
01:11:49,039 --> 01:11:53,800
let's do this. This one's called
half Fast. Uh, this is

884
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,840
a this is a great track.
I ran this suits him some software today

885
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,520
to kind of make it radio ready
because it's more of more of a demo

886
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,359
recording. But but I think it's
I think it sounds pretty good. So

887
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,600
we're gonna play this and then we're
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01:12:13,039 --> 01:12:38,399
more Matt Connerton Unleashed coming up.
Don't go away, live the one you

890
01:12:38,720 --> 01:13:03,199
love to lack of focus chiefs you
my stroke of this to Caltur my lords

891
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:15,039
out time put shield, just push
that s life so for you get back

892
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:30,840
behind. And I hate the games
you alway your words and thoughts. Drive

893
01:13:30,079 --> 01:13:42,399
man with haste to slow the bright
rest a large by Sie bright Life for

894
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:56,640
time, Oh my god'll get time
time put line. Just push that s

895
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:50,079
life so for you get back behind. Suppost surlive so all you get back

896
01:14:50,239 --> 01:15:12,039
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rip the novels wellcome back, everybody.

919
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:05,399
It's Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are
live from the studios of WMNH ninety five

920
01:18:05,399 --> 01:18:11,319
point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety

921
01:18:11,319 --> 01:18:14,239
seven if you're in Manchester, and
hello to all of our online listeners across

922
01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:16,439
the nation and around the globe.
You can go to my website Matt Connerton

923
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,239
dot com for all of your live
streaming options, social media links, contact

924
01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:26,239
infolk show archives etc. Etc.
Today is Monday June twelve, twenty twenty

925
01:18:26,319 --> 01:18:30,560
three. Jenny is here as well
at the Newsdesk present, Yes, and

926
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,359
Chris from Edgewise is in the chat
room and says love the tracks, referring

927
01:18:34,399 --> 01:18:40,560
to the My Life Crisis songs kind
of reminds me of another society ever hear

928
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,319
of them around that time National Act. That name is super familiar to me,

929
01:18:44,359 --> 01:18:45,800
another society, but I don't remember
them, but I will look them

930
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:50,359
up because now I am very curious. And you are wearing your Edgewy Sat.

931
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,199
I am wearing my Edgewy Sat.
Yes, Yes, I love the

932
01:18:54,279 --> 01:18:57,880
hat. Poly C joins us in
the Facebook love chat and says hello,

933
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,479
Big fan. Police. Of course
host a retro Spectrum radio on Friday nights

934
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,640
right here on WMH from eight to
eleven pm, and the honor and privilege

935
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:10,119
of being one of Paul's co hosts
on that show along with DJ Steve and

936
01:19:10,319 --> 01:19:13,880
of course Mike from Queen City Cabinetry. And I'm really excited about this Friday

937
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,640
show. Do you know what?
Yes, I do. Yes, going

938
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:21,600
to play the original versions of songs
before demos as the writers intended demo versions,

939
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:26,680
which I'm excited about. Yeah that
sounds awesome. Yeah, I'm I'm

940
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,359
excited about that too, you know. Um, of course as you know,

941
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,920
my favorite band is Kiss, and
there's a lot of a lot of

942
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:38,279
Kiss demos on YouTube really, oh
yeah, a lot of that stuff that's

943
01:19:38,359 --> 01:19:41,920
leaked out over the years, and
a couple of cases too where I actually

944
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,359
like the demos better than what ended
up on the album when they're slightly different

945
01:19:45,399 --> 01:19:47,960
versions. But yeah, there's,
um, there's a lot of stuff.

946
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,720
But yeah, I love that.
That's gonna be a really fun show.

947
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:55,560
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to
that one, so definitely. So retro

948
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:00,199
Spectrum Radio Friday night, Miriam Bannah
shows us in the chat room and says,

949
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,319
good afternoon. Wow, I love
the music I'm hearing well, thank

950
01:20:03,319 --> 01:20:08,119
you, Mariam. Appreciate that that
was a band that I was in a

951
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:13,239
while ago. Uh, Melanie says, what I thought it was going to

952
01:20:13,279 --> 01:20:15,920
be Sounds of Birth. Uh uh
No, that would be uh, that

953
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:21,680
would be strange. Now now I
am certified and hypno birthing. I don't

954
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:26,439
know if you knew that true.
I have an actual certificate and hypno birthing.

955
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,720
I don't accompany you to the hospital
for the birth of your child,

956
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,720
but I do a session with you
ahead of time to teach you some self

957
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:40,279
hypnosis techniques, who I'll help you
through the process. So there you go.

958
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:45,560
Policy says we have more than YouTube
down in the basement. Yes,

959
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,560
yes, you know, we have
the uh the vast archive, the WMNH

960
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:55,079
archive here in the bowels. If
I'm gonna use that of the building,

961
01:20:55,239 --> 01:20:58,880
that's sounding a little grows the bowels
of the building. And what Paul does.

962
01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:01,439
Paul has to uh you know,
it's this huge room in the basement,

963
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:06,239
the archives. And Paul goes down
there with his his lantern and uh

964
01:21:06,359 --> 01:21:11,039
looks around for for things to play
on the show. Oh no, I'm

965
01:21:11,079 --> 01:21:14,000
sorry, I actually no, he
used as a flashlight now because you know

966
01:21:14,039 --> 01:21:16,079
he almost uh you know, let
the building on fire with the lantern.

967
01:21:16,119 --> 01:21:21,039
That's very dangerous. You should not
bring a lantern or any kind of or

968
01:21:21,039 --> 01:21:26,960
even a lighter. Don't bring anything
with the flame into the basement of archives,

969
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,239
especially in these old buildings. You
know, they'll go up like uh

970
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,800
you know, like like something on
fire like tinder. Yes, yes,

971
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:42,239
absolutely so, Yes, the the
vast uh archives. Uh let's see six

972
01:21:42,319 --> 01:21:45,359
ZO three two five six seven six
ZO three two five six seven if you

973
01:21:45,359 --> 01:21:49,560
would like to join us on the
program today. By the way, we

974
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,880
were talking earlier about, you know, the the picture and the wonderful it's

975
01:21:54,960 --> 01:22:00,079
very meimable the of course the picture
going around of the the boxes in the

976
01:22:00,079 --> 01:22:03,960
bathroom. Um. Funny thing about
that now, when uh, Stephen Colmley

977
01:22:04,039 --> 01:22:09,760
Senior, I brought the secret documents
that he gave you know, if you

978
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:14,800
remember a few years ago, he
brought two envelopes to WMNH, one for

979
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,479
me and one for Peter White of
the Morning Show with Peter White. And

980
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,199
Uh, as you know, I
the envelope of secret documents that he gave

981
01:22:21,239 --> 01:22:24,439
to me. I sleep with it, you know, under the pillow every

982
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,359
night, so I think, so
I can I can guard it. But

983
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:31,039
uh, Peter took his envelope and
filed it somewhere. And uh and he

984
01:22:31,159 --> 01:22:33,760
I know that he filed it somewhere
where no one would think to look,

985
01:22:34,359 --> 01:22:36,439
is what he told me, that
no one would ever find it. But

986
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:43,600
I suspect he may have filed his
in in fact a bathroom, perhaps a

987
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,640
bathroom waste basket. So circular file. Oh. By the way, Paul

988
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,119
says, uh, with the lanterns. The reason it's dangerous is there's a

989
01:22:49,119 --> 01:22:55,720
lot of sixteenth century sheet music down
there that's true, and and that that

990
01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:01,039
actually burns quicker than than anything sixteenth
century sheet music. The type of parchment

991
01:23:01,079 --> 01:23:05,199
that was used, it's a highly
flammable even more so than regular paper.

992
01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:10,319
Was it hemp paper? I don't
know. Wow, that that could be

993
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,920
very interesting if that catches on.
In the day, everything was hemp paper.

994
01:23:14,359 --> 01:23:18,720
Declaration of Independence is written on hemp
paper. That's right, tree that,

995
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:23,399
that's right. You know. It
used to actually be a lot of

996
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:28,199
grow it because it was used in
the manufacture of the giant ropes. Yes,

997
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:31,680
for the giant ships. Yes,
well can't they They can still do

998
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,359
it for can't they. The laws
are different now, Yeah, but didn't

999
01:23:35,399 --> 01:23:39,640
they change, haven't haven't The law
has been changed again in some places where

1000
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,000
they can go back to growing it. Oh yeah, and no, yeah,

1001
01:23:43,079 --> 01:23:45,399
yeah, yeah, hemp is legal
to grow I think of most any

1002
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:47,960
place. Now they may change at
the federal level. That really opened things

1003
01:23:48,039 --> 01:23:50,279
up. Yeah, but I only
know about this stuff because when I was

1004
01:23:50,319 --> 01:23:56,600
growing up in Plymouth, Massachusetts,
this place called Cordage Park and that was

1005
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:00,640
the old rope factory and you can
go in there and see pieces of it.

1006
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,720
And the ships used to be able
to actually pull up quite far.

1007
01:24:03,079 --> 01:24:09,239
Oh okay, and get their ropes
and giant ropes. Uh. So we

1008
01:24:09,239 --> 01:24:12,600
were talking about the bathroom earlier with
the documents and the you know, the

1009
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,720
chandelier is all fancy, um,
and I happened to uh, I was

1010
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,279
going to move on to another element
of this, but then I happen to

1011
01:24:19,319 --> 01:24:25,920
see this on media apparently Kevin McCarthy
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. Uh. He

1012
01:24:26,119 --> 01:24:32,439
says that he's arguing that Trump hoarding
documents next to the toilet was sufficiently secure

1013
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:40,680
because, quote, a bathroom door
locks, but that doesn't fly under under

1014
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:45,520
the It doesn't know the Federal Code
of what is Uh, I can't think

1015
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,399
of the right thing. It's as
a code eighteen what is it eighteen?

1016
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:55,479
US Code that they're charging him under, specifically Section F because I actually looked

1017
01:24:55,520 --> 01:25:00,399
this up. Um, if you're
somebody who's been entrusted with having to be

1018
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:09,039
able to lawfully possess these books or
paperwork or whatever it is, you must

1019
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:14,560
make sure that it is where it
belongs. You cannot then be grossly negligent

1020
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,560
and take it and put it where
it doesn't belong. It has a place

1021
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,439
that belongs. Yeah, right,
classified documents is supposed to be with the

1022
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:26,640
archivist and whatever department that they belong
in. Yeah, that's where it's supposed

1023
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:30,279
to be. You violate the code
if you take it with you and go

1024
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:34,159
mine. I'm not giving it back
mine. Yeah. See, that doesn't

1025
01:25:34,199 --> 01:25:36,840
fly under the federal statute. Yeah, but if you put it in a

1026
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,479
bathroom with a lock, that's not
good enough. No, no, not

1027
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:45,319
good enough because you have let's see
you having knowledge that the lets it's not

1028
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:50,680
sorry, Oh, it has to
be in its proper place of custody or

1029
01:25:51,159 --> 01:25:55,920
so if it's been removed and it's
not in its proper place of custody where

1030
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,319
it's assigned to be, like these
documents are, they have to be like

1031
01:25:59,399 --> 01:26:05,640
signed out suh, then you are
violating US code under the Espionage Act,

1032
01:26:06,279 --> 01:26:10,760
Part F. Specifically, if you'd
like to look up the language. Of

1033
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,000
course, there are other areas of
this code that he's completely violated. We

1034
01:26:14,039 --> 01:26:16,600
can go through that if you would
like. But specifically, I drew my

1035
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:21,399
attention to the section F because it
addresses somebody who had the lawful right to

1036
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:28,000
have the documents at one point but
didn't leave them where they're supposed to be.

1037
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:33,039
All right, let me throw this
hypothetical at you or already. What

1038
01:26:33,159 --> 01:26:38,279
if what if they found themselves at
the resort? Uh? What if they

1039
01:26:38,279 --> 01:26:42,399
happen to find themselves a little short
on paper towels? You know. See

1040
01:26:42,399 --> 01:26:45,680
that doesn't count still because you have
not put it where it rightfully belongs.

1041
01:26:46,319 --> 01:26:51,039
You see this, this file associated
with nuclear things is supposed to be with

1042
01:26:51,119 --> 01:26:58,079
the nuclear thing. I may have
been missing them, okay, may I

1043
01:26:58,119 --> 01:27:02,119
may have misunderstood what the control issue
is here, you know, an intelligence

1044
01:27:02,199 --> 01:27:09,000
having to do with our capacity to
defend ourselves or how we might attack someone,

1045
01:27:09,119 --> 01:27:15,119
say Iran. These two belong probably
somewhere in the pentagonish kind of realm,

1046
01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:18,720
you know, military ish, yeah
kind of realm. Yeah. So

1047
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:25,000
so that again cannot hang out with
Sharman, right right, Yeah, yeah,

1048
01:27:25,039 --> 01:27:28,199
so there's that. So um try
again, Okay, keep throwing them

1049
01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:30,600
out right. Well, I think
you can stump me. I understand it

1050
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,239
better now. I just I was
trying to think of I was trying to

1051
01:27:33,239 --> 01:27:38,359
think a little lot outside the box. Yes, it says here again this

1052
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:43,439
is from media. I how Speaker
Kevin McCarthy defended former President Donald Trump's a

1053
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:47,119
storage of classified documents, telling reporters
today that at least one of the now

1054
01:27:47,279 --> 01:27:53,920
viral photos allegedly showing the documents at
his residence at Marlago was fine because quote

1055
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:59,960
a bathroom door locks unquote. Last
Friday, the doj unsealed the federal indictment

1056
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,920
stemming from a special counsel Jack Smith's
investigation of the ex president, with thirty

1057
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:10,319
seven criminal accounts, spelling out how
Trump retained boxes of documents that quote included

1058
01:28:10,359 --> 01:28:15,479
information regarding defense and weapons capabilities as
you alluded, of both the United States

1059
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:20,840
and foreign countries, United States nuclear
programs, potential vulnerabilities of the United States

1060
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:26,800
and its allies to military attack,
and plans for possible retaliation in response to

1061
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:30,960
foreign attack. Some of the most
shocking allegations in the indictment related to communications

1062
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,920
from Trump, his family members,
his attorneys, and other staffers acknowledging that

1063
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:40,319
he had retained classified information that had
not been declassified. Plus the now viral

1064
01:28:40,359 --> 01:28:45,920
photos showing boxes of documents that allegedly
contained classified information stacked up in bathrooms,

1065
01:28:46,119 --> 01:28:53,800
ballroom stages, storage rooms, and
other non secure areas. Trump unsurprisingly has

1066
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:59,560
reacted with a series of bombastic truth
social posts with furious screeds. During his

1067
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,680
speech and interviews over the past few
days, Pepper throughout with his customary insistence

1068
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:10,520
that he is the victim of a
witch hunt. The ex president is falling

1069
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:15,239
back on his witch hunt playbook,
said CNN's Dana Bash to introduce the clip

1070
01:29:15,239 --> 01:29:19,039
of McCarthy quote, and his Republican
allies are playing right along. Just minutes

1071
01:29:19,039 --> 01:29:25,239
ago, the House Speaker deployed some
bathroom humor to discuss the Special Counsel's indictment.

1072
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,800
A reporter asked McCarthy, was that
a good look for the former president

1073
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,000
to have boxes in a bathroom?
And McCarthy said, quote, I don't

1074
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,800
know. Is it a good picture
to have boxes in a garage that opens

1075
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:42,279
up all the time? Unquote,
he replied, presumably referring to the classified

1076
01:29:42,279 --> 01:29:45,399
documents that were found in the garage
at President Joe Biden's Wilmington, Delaware home.

1077
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:51,640
And and he probably thinks that servants
don't pee, because we've we've disseminated

1078
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:58,039
that this is obviously a bathroom that
wasn't used by his highnessed right right,

1079
01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:06,319
um, a bathroom door locks,
McCarthy added. Representative Jamie Raskin, a

1080
01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:10,439
Democrat of Maryland, who is a
ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee.

1081
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,840
Uh An served on the JAM six
House Select Committee, joined bash to discuss

1082
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,000
the indictment and started with McCarthy's comments. Raskin said, with a chuckle,

1083
01:30:18,119 --> 01:30:23,079
quote, Well, it's the first
I've seen that particular defense. But is

1084
01:30:23,119 --> 01:30:27,680
he suggesting that these boxes of classified
documents got up and locked the door after

1085
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,800
people left the bathroom. I'm not
quite sure I follow the logic of it.

1086
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,840
Unquote. See, this is what
I was wondering, because don't they

1087
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:39,600
only lock from the inside. Yeah, that's a that's a really good point,

1088
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:44,800
right, So for McCarthy's defense to
hold up, there would have to

1089
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,680
be uh mate, Now, you
know what McCarthy. Probably he might assume

1090
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:55,199
because it's at Mara Lago. Maybe
McCarthy just assumed. And by the way,

1091
01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:59,680
McCarthy has been Tomorrow Lago, of
course, as we know, right

1092
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,319
after, you know, after jan
six, McCarthy went down there for that

1093
01:31:02,359 --> 01:31:09,279
pose with that wonderful picture with that
President Trump. But McCarthy might have assumed

1094
01:31:09,399 --> 01:31:15,159
that there is a bathroom attendant on
duty at all times who actually locks the

1095
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:19,800
door while in the bathroom and then
waits for someone to come and knock on

1096
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:25,479
the door, at which point the
bathroom attendant then opens the door and steps

1097
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:30,000
out unless the other person swep.
But the thing is now, you said,

1098
01:31:30,039 --> 01:31:32,000
that's what is there for? Well, well, the thing is so,

1099
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,520
as Raskin points out, it's not
like the documents can can you know,

1100
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:41,199
they're inanimate objects. It's not as
though they can lock the doors themselves.

1101
01:31:41,199 --> 01:31:44,600
And that's true the door itself.
You can't even really trust humans to

1102
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:46,399
do that. I mean, do
you know how many times I've walked into

1103
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:50,039
a public bathroom at a say,
a convenience store, where somebody was already

1104
01:31:50,039 --> 01:31:54,000
in there, but they forgot to
lock the door. Right, That's happened

1105
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,960
to me so many times. Somebody's
in here, yeah, And you know

1106
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:02,119
what's infuriating about that is the person
who is in the bathroom already who didn't

1107
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:05,840
bother to lock the door. They
never, ever, not once where this

1108
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:09,319
has happened to me, not once, is that person ever said, oh

1109
01:32:09,319 --> 01:32:11,359
sorry, man, I forgot to
lock it. No, no, no,

1110
01:32:11,399 --> 01:32:14,359
you know what they do? Instead
they glare at me like I'm the

1111
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:18,199
jerk because I walked into a bathroom
that they didn't bother to lock. Well,

1112
01:32:18,239 --> 01:32:21,760
and I resent it you aren't using
your X ray vision. I know,

1113
01:32:23,119 --> 01:32:26,600
very disappointed, I know, But
listen, you're talking about what I

1114
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:32,760
believe to be the weakest speaker in
United States history. He sold every part

1115
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:38,159
of himself off just to get that
title. He has made so many shady

1116
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:43,479
agreements and whatever to be that person
that he's got no power. He really

1117
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,439
has no power. Oh, I
mean, I don't think he's got a

1118
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:50,560
lot of power at all at all. I didn't got him by the cajones.

1119
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:56,960
It takes one. I don't quite
agree, only because I would have

1120
01:32:57,039 --> 01:33:00,600
felt that way more. I mean, yeah, he did have to give

1121
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,439
away a lot for everything. I
mean, he probably is in that regard

1122
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:08,880
because of all that he had to
give away. The weakest, the weakest

1123
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:12,800
speaker. But I think, but
I would not say he has no power

1124
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:17,760
because if you remember, leading up
to the debt ceiling deal, one of

1125
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,399
the things I was very worried about, one of the things where I thought

1126
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:24,560
we might actually really go over the
cliff, and I was feeling pretty pessimistic,

1127
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:28,199
was because I didn't think he'd be
able to get h once he made

1128
01:33:28,199 --> 01:33:30,279
a deal, I didn't think he'd
be able to get it through the house,

1129
01:33:30,319 --> 01:33:34,000
and he did. He delivered.
I actually, well, I don't

1130
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:38,079
have a lot of don't deliver.
I don't have a lot of the makeup

1131
01:33:38,119 --> 01:33:40,920
of what he was playing with here. I don't have a lot of regard

1132
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,800
for the guy. But he did. He did get it done. He

1133
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,119
said he would get it done,
and he did get it done. And

1134
01:33:45,159 --> 01:33:50,159
I will give him some grudging respect
for that. I will. I got

1135
01:33:50,159 --> 01:33:53,600
a crumb, I'll give him that. Well, I'll give him that.

1136
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:57,279
But I think he's a He's the
weakest speaker this country's ever had. Oh

1137
01:33:57,319 --> 01:34:00,000
no, I think that's I think
that's true. I think that's true.

1138
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:02,600
But but when you say he has
no power, well he did. He

1139
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:06,119
managed to. He doesn't have a
heck of a lot. He might not

1140
01:34:06,159 --> 01:34:09,000
have a heck of a lot,
but he had enough to get that dead

1141
01:34:09,039 --> 01:34:12,439
ceiling deal done. And that's and
that's not nothing. That's not one hundred

1142
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:15,399
percent on him. I don't see
it's a I don't see that as a

1143
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,279
hundred part. I'm not saying that
his work in the sense that when you

1144
01:34:17,279 --> 01:34:20,960
look at the makeup of the Republicans
that he was dealing with, he had

1145
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:26,640
a larger majority of Republicans that didn't
want to go over a cliff than those

1146
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,039
willing to go over the cliff.
The yeah, the what do you call

1147
01:34:30,119 --> 01:34:33,159
him? The little group the House
Freedom Caucus. So they say, um,

1148
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:38,199
just not if you're a woman.
Not if you're a woman. By

1149
01:34:38,239 --> 01:34:43,840
my standards, and what I was
expecting, he overperformed, really be overperformed

1150
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:47,399
in that I had very low expectations
and very little faith in him. And

1151
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,720
he lucky and he came through.
I think he was lucky. I will

1152
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:55,079
give him credit for that, but
I certainly don't give him any credit for

1153
01:34:55,159 --> 01:35:00,840
his uh, his defense of on
the bathroom thing is beyond pathetic. Seriously,

1154
01:35:01,239 --> 01:35:09,760
give the inside guy. Yeah,
and these people buy it. Oh

1155
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:15,479
and and and and incidentally, files
being found in a garage not okay by

1156
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,399
any stretch of the imagination, of
course. So also, under the law,

1157
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:23,479
you were supposed to return this stuff. You don't get to keep it

1158
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,680
forever. Right, It's not how
it works. It's not how it's ever

1159
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:32,680
worked. Right. Well, yeah, especially when they come knocking and ask

1160
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,119
you for it. Right, all
he had to do was knock, knock,

1161
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:40,680
give us the stuff back. If
he giving it all back, we

1162
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,560
wouldn't even be talking about none of
it right. None of this would be

1163
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,560
if when the archive came asking came
asking for it. Yep, Um,

1164
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,880
none of this would be happening.
I dare say, even if when the

1165
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:55,199
FBI came looking for it, if
if they hadn't played hide the ball with

1166
01:35:55,239 --> 01:35:58,359
all of this and just cooperated,
I don't think any of this would be

1167
01:35:58,359 --> 01:36:01,520
happening. And we know that they
were boxes moved before the lawyer got to

1168
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:05,399
there to see. And here the
lawyer goes to certify. Nope, nope,

1169
01:36:05,399 --> 01:36:09,479
we've given you everything. It's all
good now, and it probably would

1170
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:14,920
have ended there if not yet again
no, yep, because his ego won't

1171
01:36:15,039 --> 01:36:18,720
let anything else rule. This guy
decides something's his, he's gonna take it

1172
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:23,079
to the grave with him. He
doesn't know how to be wrong, and

1173
01:36:23,119 --> 01:36:25,880
he doesn't know how to not get
his way. I don't think he's ever

1174
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:29,720
not gotten his way in his entire
life. This, this little silver spoon

1175
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,560
got up and took us, and
now he gets whatever he wants. This

1176
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,800
is the first situation this guy's probably
ever been in with somebody's going no,

1177
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:41,840
you cannot no, how can you
say no to the great One? I

1178
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:47,159
mean seriously, that's what this is. His ego brought him down this road.

1179
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:51,439
His ego did this to him.
While there are two there are two

1180
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:56,760
key differences, you know, because
people will say, well, what about

1181
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,920
Biden and what about Pence? And
you know, listen, I take I

1182
01:37:00,079 --> 01:37:02,680
take it all very seriously. Um, Or what about Hillary? You know,

1183
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:06,119
we're still in in now and it's
the year twenty twenty three and we're

1184
01:37:06,159 --> 01:37:12,600
hearing but our emails. Um,
there's a there's a key difference uh here

1185
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:16,640
uh not, and not not just
in the magnitude of what we're talking about,

1186
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:21,039
but two key things, two words
that are very important here, intent

1187
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:27,279
and obstruction. I mean you you
were just talking about all the obstruction.

1188
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:33,279
Um. You know everybody else cooperated
when something like this came up. Um.

1189
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,760
And by the way, I will
I will just remind people too,

1190
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:41,439
the special counsel investigation, not Jack
Smith, but a different a different individual

1191
01:37:42,319 --> 01:37:47,079
who's investigating Biden and the secret documents
there because there are still some important questions

1192
01:37:47,079 --> 01:37:50,960
there. That's an ongoing investigation.
I'll just remind everybody of that, so

1193
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:54,600
you know, don't be so quick
to say, oh, they just let

1194
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,840
Biden off. The No, that
is ongoing, Uh, Mike Pence.

1195
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,359
They let off the hook because Mike
Pence operated, it seemed to be an

1196
01:38:00,399 --> 01:38:05,159
honest mistake. Again, and that
goes to intent. So so in this

1197
01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:13,119
case, you have the obvious obstruction
of Trump, but you also have intent.

1198
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:17,520
What was his intent? And that
is the thing that I want to

1199
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:23,439
know. And I've said this before
and I'll say it again. I don't

1200
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,840
care if you're you know, you
can be the biggest Trump supporter. You

1201
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,640
can be full on maga. You
can have the big Trump flag on your

1202
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:31,800
pickup truck, you can wear the
hat, you can you know whatever.

1203
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,000
You can be as deeply in love
with Trump as you want to be.

1204
01:38:34,359 --> 01:38:40,079
But every American, no matter who
you are, whether you think you need

1205
01:38:40,119 --> 01:38:44,640
an explanation, whether you're even the
slightest pic curious, or you just put

1206
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:47,960
your absolute total faith in this man
for whatever reason, I'll never understand.

1207
01:38:48,399 --> 01:38:54,239
No matter who you are as an
American, you deserve, I deserve,

1208
01:38:54,359 --> 01:39:00,920
we all, every single one of
us deserves an explanation. What was his

1209
01:39:01,359 --> 01:39:09,399
intent? Why did he take these
things? And why did he try so

1210
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:15,000
desperately to keep them? We all
deserve an explanation. I understand if you're

1211
01:39:15,039 --> 01:39:18,600
a supporter of his, you don't
need an explanation, and you don't care

1212
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:24,199
because you just believe in him so
deeply that it just doesn't matter to you.

1213
01:39:24,279 --> 01:39:27,600
I get it. But whether you
want an explanation or not, you

1214
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,560
deserve one. We all deserve one. I'm an American citizen, I'm an

1215
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:35,640
American taxpayer. I want to know
why, and what is one thing that

1216
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:41,239
he has not explained. You know, every time he's asked, every time

1217
01:39:41,279 --> 01:39:44,359
he's asked, he says, he
says, oh, I had every right

1218
01:39:44,399 --> 01:39:46,279
to take them, And he talks
about how he thinks he had every right

1219
01:39:46,279 --> 01:39:48,119
to take them and every right to
keep them, and how they're his and

1220
01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:54,199
all that. I have yet to
hear him say anything about what his intention

1221
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:59,319
was in having these and what he
intended to do with that information. I

1222
01:39:59,399 --> 01:40:04,680
have not once heard him say anything
about that, And I want to know.

1223
01:40:06,039 --> 01:40:11,720
Here's my opinion from the cheap seats. I really I draw this right

1224
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,079
back to his ego again. I
don't think he ever had an intention of

1225
01:40:15,119 --> 01:40:18,239
trying to make money or sell them
off to Russia. I don't think that.

1226
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:25,680
What I do think is he's already
told us in what we've learned from

1227
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,439
what was released and things that he
said. He had this thing about going

1228
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:32,359
see what I got, look at
this, Look what I have? You

1229
01:40:32,399 --> 01:40:35,159
know, oh, and I've got
this. I mean he even says things

1230
01:40:35,159 --> 01:40:38,680
like that. There's that in the
section that they keep bringing up where he

1231
01:40:39,039 --> 01:40:42,199
says how he had the power when
he was president, but he doesn't have

1232
01:40:42,279 --> 01:40:45,680
the power because he's not president anymore. He's talking about a specific document,

1233
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:51,039
a classified document which they haven't found
yet, which they haven't found yet.

1234
01:40:51,239 --> 01:40:58,159
This man is he has to his
only it's kind of sad, you know,

1235
01:40:58,199 --> 01:41:00,560
when you think about it. The
only way he could feel good about

1236
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,359
himself as if he's showing off,
Look what I have, Look what I

1237
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:08,720
have, and it maybe that's something. And then when somebody looks at Trump

1238
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:12,479
and says you can't have this,
he digs in, Oh, no,

1239
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:16,479
you're not taking nothing away from me. This is Mayan And that's what I

1240
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,960
see with this guy. And that's
what I think has been his his entire

1241
01:41:20,039 --> 01:41:29,359
downfall, which has toppled leaders through
history their egos. We have a call.

1242
01:41:29,399 --> 01:41:32,479
I think this might be Charles.
Charles. Is that you Yes,

1243
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:41,560
it is Charles from the State of
Florida, Florida. Right, you've you've

1244
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:47,479
been the greatness has been. The
Santists out of it. Yes, what's

1245
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:51,600
on your mind? Charles? So
I'm thinking here, what if it's the

1246
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:59,079
blackmail anybody that tried to do You
think that's maybe a possibility of why he

1247
01:41:59,119 --> 01:42:01,199
has all this stuff, why he
wants to show up, maybe not to

1248
01:42:01,239 --> 01:42:04,640
show up, but like, well, if anybody tries to double cross me,

1249
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:10,479
well I can do this to them. Well there is something is like

1250
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:14,359
the JFK as that nation documents or
pitches that he had or something. I

1251
01:42:14,359 --> 01:42:18,119
mean, I don't know that there
is. Um, there is a concept

1252
01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:26,640
called gray male, which is where
you have you have documents or information that

1253
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:31,640
um that you know, our intelligence
agencies would not want to be made public,

1254
01:42:32,119 --> 01:42:38,039
so you kind of hold onto those
as leverage. Um. But I

1255
01:42:38,359 --> 01:42:42,680
don't know, I mean, anything's
possible, but uh, nuclear secrets,

1256
01:42:43,399 --> 01:42:53,840
I don't know the movements of other
nations military. I'm from porn star scandals,

1257
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:59,479
from tax scandals and all this other
stuff. He's probably gotten some intelligence

1258
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,239
on. Like well, there's probably
gonna be more scandals coming up because I've

1259
01:43:02,279 --> 01:43:05,479
done so much. You know,
something out there. I'm just gonna go

1260
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:09,680
ahead, hold onto a document just
so I can go ahead and clear myself

1261
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:14,880
or to fight back. I don't
know. I don't understand who he's blackmailing.

1262
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:18,680
Is he blackmailing the Navy? I
don't know. Well, because if

1263
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:23,039
I say blackmail and now that's a
that's a racist thing. So maybe it's

1264
01:43:23,039 --> 01:43:26,159
whitemailing. I don't know. But
wow, anyway, No, I think

1265
01:43:26,199 --> 01:43:29,800
you can still say blackmail. Wow, I don't think that, man,

1266
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,359
Sure, yeah, I listen.
I don't know anymore. It's a it's

1267
01:43:32,359 --> 01:43:36,159
a different it's a different United States
than why I was when I was ten

1268
01:43:36,239 --> 01:43:41,279
years old. So wow, a
little less racism in the country. It's

1269
01:43:41,319 --> 01:43:45,520
amazing. Well, yeah, it's
a it's a well, it's it's now

1270
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,760
more out than it was before.
I never thought of it when I was

1271
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:51,199
ten years old, but my god, it's in my head all the time

1272
01:43:51,239 --> 01:43:57,800
from everything I see, And what's
it's now more than ever? What?

1273
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,439
Anyway? What's that was my opinion
with Donald Trump? What what? What's

1274
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,520
out? What? What do you
mean? What's out more? Now?

1275
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:08,600
What were you? What were you
back? When? Back when I was

1276
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:12,359
ten years old, I could go
outside without having the fear of pedophiles.

1277
01:44:12,359 --> 01:44:15,479
I can go outside without the fear
of of of of saying racist things or

1278
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:23,439
anybody bringing it up. You're a
little I knew better because I was growing

1279
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:29,039
up that way. I knew better. But it's like it's publicized to the

1280
01:44:29,119 --> 01:44:32,359
tenth degree now. Now it's like
nobody everybody's scared to get out of their

1281
01:44:32,399 --> 01:44:38,119
house. Everybody's scared to meet with
their neighbors. Everybody's always like hmm,

1282
01:44:38,119 --> 01:44:43,960
what are they up to? You
know, just nobody has any trust anymore.

1283
01:44:45,279 --> 01:44:51,039
I think I'm wrong. I think
you're wrong, and I think that's

1284
01:44:51,039 --> 01:44:55,720
your opinion. But that's my opinion
because I think back then I could go

1285
01:44:55,760 --> 01:45:00,680
out and play outside and ride my
bike with a Now, really it's all

1286
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:06,239
designed to put fear into other people, that is I think I've ever heard.

1287
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:10,279
Yes, there were no pedophiles back
when we were young. All right,

1288
01:45:10,359 --> 01:45:18,039
Well I didn't say that. I'm
sorry, yea, all right,

1289
01:45:18,039 --> 01:45:24,319
thanks Charles, all right, Oh
my god, I'm not. I'm not

1290
01:45:24,399 --> 01:45:28,479
sure that that wasn't. Uh.
I don't know I would say racist things

1291
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,079
like you could when he was ten. No, I don't think that's what

1292
01:45:30,119 --> 01:45:33,800
he was saying. What he said, But I'm not I'm not a little

1293
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,239
No, well no, because he
said he was raised better than that,

1294
01:45:36,279 --> 01:45:40,479
he knew better. But I don't
know, I'm not People could say things

1295
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,399
and it was get in trouble.
I don't know what. We talk about

1296
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,720
racism too much. I don't know, Dare. It wasn't clear to me.

1297
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:49,119
But the phone connection was terrible,
So yeah, I didn't hear you

1298
01:45:49,119 --> 01:45:53,239
echoing. Didn't. I didn't want
to get into a protracted discussion. But

1299
01:45:53,279 --> 01:45:56,840
I'm not sure exactly. I remember
when I was in elementary school, we

1300
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:01,760
had the clown is scary guy driving
around in a white van dressed like a

1301
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:08,239
clown from the waist stop and he
was snatching kids Randolph, Massachusetts. And

1302
01:46:08,359 --> 01:46:12,000
we were all advised in elementary school
and told to like run into a store

1303
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,520
or run into the police well wherever
you were if you saw a white van,

1304
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:18,960
just just run away, just get
away from it. I remember this

1305
01:46:19,079 --> 01:46:21,640
like, I mean, it was
a big deal. It was like scarring.

1306
01:46:23,039 --> 01:46:25,720
Yeah, if you want to get
in with a call before you run

1307
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:30,600
out of time six zero three two
five zero six zero seven six zero three

1308
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:34,279
two five six seven, we've got
a little bit of time left. I

1309
01:46:34,319 --> 01:46:40,600
did see this um. One of
the things that's been interesting about the way

1310
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:45,439
the different Republican candidates are reacting to, uh yeah, to this. Of

1311
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:50,239
Now you've got Chris Christie, former
governor of New Jersey, and Asa Hutchinson,

1312
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:55,520
former governor of Arkansas. Who are
you know, who are are willing

1313
01:46:55,520 --> 01:47:03,279
to actually risk raising the ire of
MAGA world and actually be critical of Trump.

1314
01:47:03,359 --> 01:47:06,680
But then of course you've got well, you've got Mike Penns who just

1315
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,119
continues to you know, He'll say, well, nobody's above the law.

1316
01:47:11,159 --> 01:47:13,760
But I'm just so troubled to see
this happening. It's like, well,

1317
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:17,880
which is it, dude? And
there's some reaction from Nicky Haley. It

1318
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:24,640
says here from media. Nicky Haley
rips Trump over doc's case on Fox News,

1319
01:47:25,119 --> 01:47:29,840
says was incredibly reckless with our national
security if charges are true, so

1320
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:34,680
says your Republican presidential candidate and former
South Carolina governor Nicky Haley criticized former President

1321
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:40,800
Donald Trump today, stating that if
federal charges against him are valid, his

1322
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:45,640
behavior was incredibly reckless. The Department
of Justice unsealed and indictment of the former

1323
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,800
president on Friday, and connection with
his retention of government documents he took to

1324
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:55,319
his Marlago residence when he left office. The material, quote included information regarding

1325
01:47:55,319 --> 01:48:00,000
defense and weapons capabilities of both the
United States and foreign countries, United States

1326
01:48:00,119 --> 01:48:03,399
nuclear programs, potential vulnerabilities of the
United States and its allies to military attack,

1327
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:10,920
and plans for possible retaliation in response
to foreign attack. Une Hailey tweeted

1328
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:17,239
about the indictment on Friday, calling
it prosecutorial overreach. However, she now

1329
01:48:17,279 --> 01:48:23,000
appears to be pivoting, appearing on
the Story, which I guess is a

1330
01:48:23,039 --> 01:48:27,079
show on Fox. Hailey, Trump's
former UN ambassador, was asked about his

1331
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:33,680
scheduled arraignment on Tuesday. Martha McCallum
said, quote, he's facing the indictment

1332
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:38,479
tomorrow. Obviously, these are serious, serious accusations in a situation that he

1333
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:43,439
finds himself in. What's your reaction
to what he's to what's going on in

1334
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:46,359
what we're going to see play out
tomorrow? What do you say to voters

1335
01:48:46,399 --> 01:48:50,960
about how they should look at this? Unquote? Hailey responded by praising Trump's

1336
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:56,279
tenure as president and blasting the Department
of Justice. Eventually, she got around

1337
01:48:56,279 --> 01:48:59,560
to addressing his actions in the case. Okay, so I guess she's going

1338
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,920
to try to It sounds like she's
she's trying to run the Mike Pence play.

1339
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,560
It sounds like. But here's what
she actually said. And I haven't

1340
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:10,239
pre read this, so you know, I don't know. Here's what she

1341
01:49:10,319 --> 01:49:14,680
said. Two things can be true
at the same time. One, the

1342
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:18,640
dj and FBI have lost all credibility
with the American people, and getting rid

1343
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:23,000
of just senior management isn't going to
be enough to fix this. This is

1344
01:49:23,039 --> 01:49:27,399
going to take a complete overhaul,
and we have to do that too.

1345
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:31,640
The second thing can also be true
if the indictment is true. If what

1346
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:36,239
it says is actually the case,
President Trump was incredibly reckless with our national

1347
01:49:36,279 --> 01:49:41,760
security. More than that, I'm
a military spouse. My husband's about to

1348
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:45,680
deploy this weekend. This puts all
of our military men and women in danger.

1349
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:49,840
If you're going to talk about what
our military is capable of, or

1350
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:55,640
how we would how we would go
about invading or doing something with one of

1351
01:49:55,640 --> 01:50:00,000
our enemies. And if that's the
case, it's reckless, it's for US

1352
01:50:00,119 --> 01:50:04,720
rating and it causes problems. Hailey
noted that Trump is also under indictment in

1353
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:08,920
New York on charges of falsifying business
records, and is also the subject of

1354
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:13,399
another criminal investigation in Georgia over his
efforts to overturn the twenty twenty election.

1355
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:15,720
Despite his legal woes, Trump is
currently leading the Republican field by more than

1356
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:19,279
thirty points. Um. Yeah,
Georgia should be coming up in a couple

1357
01:50:19,279 --> 01:50:23,600
of months. I think, I
think, yeah, this summer. Yeah,

1358
01:50:24,199 --> 01:50:28,119
so then that happens, and we've
all heard the phone call, the

1359
01:50:28,199 --> 01:50:31,720
perfect phone call. But so she's
she's kind of going to be crazy.

1360
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,760
She's kind of trying to have it
both ways, but not in exactly the

1361
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:39,760
same way that Pence is. Pence
Pence does it in a way that's uh,

1362
01:50:40,039 --> 01:50:44,079
Pence Pence just kind of uses a
circular logic. What she's saying is,

1363
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,359
yeah, two things gonna be true
once. So she's um, she's

1364
01:50:46,399 --> 01:50:50,159
going with the narrative that the DOJ
and the FBI have lost all credibility,

1365
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:56,000
because part of the narrative from the
right is that it's these agencies have been

1366
01:50:56,000 --> 01:51:00,000
completely taken over by Democrats, the
deep state, which I which I find

1367
01:51:00,159 --> 01:51:00,960
it, well, there is I
do believe there is a deep state,

1368
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:04,479
but I don't think of it in
the quite the same way that conservatives think

1369
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:09,039
of it, and uh, you
know, law enforcement tends to skew conservative

1370
01:51:09,079 --> 01:51:12,800
and I have seen zero evidence that
that's ever changed. So I think that's

1371
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:15,800
just a talking point that they pass
around and they repeat that, you know,

1372
01:51:15,119 --> 01:51:18,359
Democrats are in charge of everything.
Now, I don't believe that's uh

1373
01:51:19,159 --> 01:51:21,840
true. I mean, for one
thing, I don't think there would be

1374
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:28,640
an ongoing investigation into Joe Biden over
his handling of classified documents, which isn't

1375
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,600
ongoing investigation by the DJ Nor do
I think there would be an investigation ongoing

1376
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:36,239
into Hunter Biden. Did I find
any with Jimmy Carter? M Jimmy Carter.

1377
01:51:36,319 --> 01:51:41,920
Did they find anything at his residence
or anything? No, not that

1378
01:51:42,039 --> 01:51:44,479
I know of. He's still with
us, Yeah, he is, Yeah

1379
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:47,359
with us? So, um so
probably the one that didn't have any paperwork

1380
01:51:47,359 --> 01:51:50,600
at his house. So she's trying
to have it both ways that way,

1381
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:54,760
Yeah, she's she's going with the
narrative. But then but she is criticizing

1382
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:59,920
Trump saying if this is true,
and she does lay out unlike Mike Pence,

1383
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,279
who just kind of stumbles and hems, hems and haws his way through

1384
01:52:02,319 --> 01:52:06,359
this stuff because but like I said, he's he sticks with circular logic.

1385
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:10,680
He should be found guilty. Well, no, she's she's saying, she's

1386
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:14,159
kind of hedging a little bit because
she's saying, if if these allegations are

1387
01:52:14,199 --> 01:52:18,279
true, which by the way,
perfectly reasonable, Trump is under our constitution,

1388
01:52:18,359 --> 01:52:21,159
you know, he is innocent until
proven guilty, the presumption of innocence.

1389
01:52:21,159 --> 01:52:25,319
We should remember that. But she
is saying that if if it is,

1390
01:52:25,399 --> 01:52:29,000
if these are true, then then
he was incredibly reckless with our national

1391
01:52:29,039 --> 01:52:35,720
security. And and she gives examples
of why it's problematic. So some of

1392
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:41,079
the information that was in there too
involved American assets by name, like people

1393
01:52:41,119 --> 01:52:44,479
who are doing things for our government. That's always bad. Yeah, you

1394
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:48,039
put you put people's lives in jeopardy, directly in jeopardy by doing that big

1395
01:52:48,079 --> 01:52:53,319
time. It's hideous. It is, it absolutely is. You know what

1396
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,159
What's weird though, is like when
you look at Fox News, remember what

1397
01:52:56,199 --> 01:53:00,399
you were talking about this earlier,
They'll have her on saying that, and

1398
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:02,439
then they'll have somebody else on who's
going, oh, this is terrible.

1399
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:08,560
How could he? I'm confused by
Fox News, I really am. You're

1400
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,680
not well, different people who go
on are gonna have different opinions, but

1401
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:15,960
I don't I would I would have
expected them to not entertain the idea of

1402
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:20,479
there being any guilt. I was
surprised to see that they actually are have

1403
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:25,159
people on there that are saying it
is possible he may be guilty. We

1404
01:53:25,239 --> 01:53:27,319
have a call. We'll have to
It'll have to be a quick one.

1405
01:53:27,319 --> 01:53:30,039
We're almost out of the show.
Hi, welcome to Matt Connerton. Unleash.

1406
01:53:30,039 --> 01:53:40,960
Who's this? Hello? Hello you, Lucy? So I could hear

1407
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,960
her? It was Shannon, Oh, but I could barely hear her.

1408
01:53:44,159 --> 01:53:46,039
Oh I could, I could.
The volume was so low on her end

1409
01:53:46,119 --> 01:53:50,520
that there no point even trying.
So sorry, Shannon. I could hear

1410
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:55,000
you just well enough to hear your
voice, but it was so faint there

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was no where our listeners could have
possibly heard. I didn't hear anything at

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all, and I have hearing Aidan
well. By the way, Hello to

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my friend Dave Wally in the chat
room. I don't think I said hi

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01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,680
today earlier. He's in there.
Um we uh, we are about out

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of time, so we do need
to uh, we do need to wrap

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up. Oh, Crystal in the
chat Crystal, our friend from Illinois.

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01:54:13,239 --> 01:54:15,800
Also in the chat, she said, I think Charles means words like Picnic

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01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,680
are considered racists these days. Words
we never thought anything of. That's my

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01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,239
guests anyhow, I didn't know that
Picnic. I don't know. I don't

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I honestly, I don't know about
Picnics. I don't know. Um anyway,

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all right, we do we do
need to wrap up, So we're

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gonna finish up with one more song
from the band My Life Crisis. If

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you're just joining us. One of
the guys I was in that band with

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01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:41,000
Ben Brackett York. He has passed
away. Uh, so we uh,

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we opened the show. I played
some of the music that we did and

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01:54:45,439 --> 01:54:49,159
together back in the day and spoke
about Ben and I wanted to kind of

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01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:53,520
just talk about him a bit.
So that's uh, that's how we opened

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01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,720
up today and we've been playing some
of the music. Um. This last

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01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:00,359
song that we're going to close with
today from that era is a song called

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Malice Femina. But it's uh.
I did have to make a radio edit

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of it in order to play it
on the show. This song, it

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01:55:08,239 --> 01:55:13,199
gets a little Blue, so I
had to remove some of the bad words

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01:55:13,399 --> 01:55:15,560
to you are very good at doing
that. Play Yeah, I'm pretty good

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01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:20,159
with making radio edits sou So we
will leave with that. So um but

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Jenny, thank you, and thank
you, thank you everybody in the chat

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01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:29,079
room, everyone who called. And
uh if you miss any part of today's

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01:55:29,079 --> 01:55:31,760
show it we'll be up in just
a little bit at WMNH radio dot org

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01:55:32,159 --> 01:55:36,199
and in my website Matt Connerton dot
com. And again condolences to the family

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01:55:36,239 --> 01:55:42,079
of Ben Brackett, York and uh
we will we will leave you with this.

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This is Malice Femina from the band
My Life Crisis to close out today's

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01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:59,920
Matt Connerton Unleashed and we'll talk to
y'all a little bit later. By everybody,

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01:56:00,079 --> 01:56:13,159
m H. The eyes side down, tiding outside by my side fout

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01:56:13,359 --> 01:56:17,840
like I'm on my bell. I
got ride west side time while side b

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01:56:19,199 --> 01:56:29,800
time to time by eye my bride
bry eyes. But I see my right

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01:56:30,520 --> 01:57:08,680
I got alarm rise. I saw
that I bind out when I got the

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01:57:10,359 --> 01:57:21,640
time grass to out see how my
eye side right out my side I made

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01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:48,239
ye how how my world now is
my side of my world was my house

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my side life willows my darn time
when house my side out mine? When

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now was my out that
