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Hey everybody, hope you're doing well. This is Colt over in my studio

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apartment in Chicago, Illinois. This
is a live bonus type podcast that I'm

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doing. I know it's been a
while, but many a weekend was so

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much fun and High Spots had an
after party and Michael from High Spots asked

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me if I could do something on
stage and I was like, yeah,

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I could do a live art of
wrestling. Of course, times got fumbled

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up for sure, so it just
ended up being myself and mcfoley, but

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I did want to present it to
you here on the timeline. And the

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good news is I will be at
the Squared Circle exbo this weekend in Indianapolis

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where on Friday night I'm going to
be doing another live podcast. They've given

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me a full hour on the stage. There's a bunch of stage shows,

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so I will be putting that on
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hopefully next week. The live portion
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Mick really quickly and bringing him up. So you know the deal. Coltmerch

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Cabana. All right, without further
ado, let's take it to the Globe

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Theater in Los Angeles, California.
This is the Older Wrestling with professional wrestler

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Coldcabanda. All right, Hi,
you guys doing come on and sit right

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down. You're about to listen to
the art of wrestling. A professional wrestling

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podcast. It's a life podcast.
It's a personal journal. It's an entryway

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to the minds, the soul is, the hearts and the lives of the

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people involved in the world of professional
wrestling. I am your host. My

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name is Cold Cabana. Hello everybody, Thank you. I am not coming

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to you live from my studio in
Chicago, Illinois, but I am at

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the La Globe in beautiful Los Angeles, California. Today's podcast is a very

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special one as we are doing a
live show during Mania weekend and Roah weekend.

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I guess I should shout out the
old company that I work for,

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and we are here in a huge
stage show. Following this will be an

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unbelievable appearance from many talented wrestlers slash
stars, including Mickey James and Max Cast.

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But first I would like to bring
up a friend of mine who is

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going to come out here and chit
chat with me a little bit, chit

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chat with you a little bit.
Please welcome my guest to the stage,

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the legend, the fucking legend mcfoley. Everybody, mc Foley there, he

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is you. Uh, maybe I'm
having trouble reading, because on my way

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over here, I could have sworn
it's a globe theater sold out. And

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well, Nick, I have some
advice for you. Put on the reading

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glasses on your neck right there.
I'll take these off. Anyone have the

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faintest idea why I'm in a tuxedo. I just came over from the WWE

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Hall of Fame induction, where I
was asked about three weeks ago, called.

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I get a message, text message
said, Hi, is this Mick.

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It's Stacy Stacy Keibler, Because would
you do me the hunter of inducting

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me into the WW Hall of Fame, and I didn't say, let me

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check my schedule. I said,
yes, I will, and then the

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juggling process began. So I'm including
how would get a tuxedo? Oh man,

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how to get a tuxedo? The
whole time I was backstage with my

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wife's like, you look awful,
like you don't know how to wear.

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And I'll tell you what. I'm
not a lip reader, but I can

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swear that when I got up there, we do it in the stage now

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and all of the all of the
w It's it's cool to see all of

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the WW superstars and miss on that
stage. Used to be my ol snow

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joke, right, it still works
better as out, But I could have

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sworn I saw a triple h's lips
say, is Mick wearing sweatpants? The

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answer, my friends, Yes I
am. And I even took a magic

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marker and I covered up the R
for Russell on my pants. So I

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got the tuxs top, I've got
the tie, I got the cumber band,

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I got the shirt and wearing the
sweatpants and steakers. Wow, Nick,

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take me through the process of you
being like, I hate need a

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tuxedo. What do I do I
went to the same place where Double Jay

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got his tuxedo and uh, outside
of Nashville. And the guy's going,

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Okay, this looks good. We
just need to take a few things in.

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I was like, no, I
think I'm good. Off the rack,

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Off the rack, brother, I
don't mess around. I can afford

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to look good. But if I
start looking too good, I'm gonna lose

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everyone of you out there. Right, wait until the heat I get when

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I finally get my bottom teeth fixed. Right, hush has just come over

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the room. A hush, they
look good, there they are. We

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should get gold teeth, Nick,
I don't know. You know who's going

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to end up doing my work?
Sam White from Libertyville Dental. No,

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that's a plug for my friends.
We got him. Then we got Ripped

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Rock the denters. Right, it's
right, it was right. Rip Rogers,

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one of the great teachers wrestlers,
underhelded workers. He was having trouble

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because he was in a car accident
and the doctor told him, the orthopeda

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guy said, all of the calcium
your body needs is going to go to

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your hip and your teeth are going
to rot it. I've never even heard

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of that, And sure, enough. Yeah, Rip's Teeth, Are you

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a dentist? Okay, so what
the heck are you doing questioning me my

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friend? That was gonna pull rank
like I'm on dentist. I've never heard

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of that. Well, anyway,
Rip's Teeth started having a tough time.

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Colt knew that I was raising some
money with some merchandise sales at my shows,

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and he was like, hey,
I've got a friend. So the

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tag team due of Cabana and Foley. This is not the first time we've

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bent on a stage together, right, it's not the first time. Going

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back to what two thousand and eight
or was it nine? I think two

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thousand and nine, two thousand nine, we kind of became a little touring

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act if me, you and Bruce
Pritchard, and sometimes it was in Colt,

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sometimes it was me and Bruce.
But I'm telling you they booked it

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as total extreme comedy, which is
not what either one of us do.

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And we had to sell out the
first night of the improv and then we

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saw a lot of crowds kind of
like this. But I'll tell you what.

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I'm going to take you back to
when I did the twenty Years of

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Hell tour and it was just twenty
cities, twenty dates in the US.

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And then I was asked last minute
if I could do a show at at

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one of the conventions. Trying to
think of which show in Chicago? What's

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the Big two? Natzi two eto
the other wizard World? Here it is

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wizard World. So I asked Glenn
Jacobs if he would do the Q and

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A with me, And right before
we walk in, given that I've had

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exactly one day to promote this show, he says, how many people are

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going to be out there? Mick
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could be fifty, I don't really
know. And when we walked through it

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wasn't five hundred, but it was
in fifty. It was about half a

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fifty. And so I always found
that a way to jolt myself into an

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alternate reality would be to go into
character as either you know, mankind preferably,

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and I remember giving a story and
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bit of it mankind. I think
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was doing the interview with Jim Ross
back in nineteen ninety seven, and I

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was talking about when I was a
goalie. I used to be a lacrosse

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player in high school, and because
I was not fleet of foot, I

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would take my athletic cup out in
order to run laps, and I would

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occasionally forget to put it back in. And there was one day when I

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paid the ultimate price, and I'm
gonna take it back. It's gonna be

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amazing. I'm gonna put my head
down as twenty twenty two, twenty three

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mcfoley. When I bring it back
up, I will have transformed into nineteen

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ninety seven mankind Jimmy. I went
down like I'd been shot, and even

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though my testicle was the size of
a grapefruit, I made it into school

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that next day. It was the
only time I remember girls looking and pointing

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at my genital area, and for
that reason, I considered that night to

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be the best night in the history
of my life. And I looked at

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the face of one person and I
could kind of read their mind. I

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said, you didn't think I was
bringing my a game, did you?

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I said, I always bring my
a game. One thing about anybody,

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unless they're called in to become a
big star, if they worked their way

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up through the ranks, every one
of us will have performed in front of

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more crowds like this than we will
have in front of those PACT arenas.

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And my friends, if you don't
bring your a game every night, you

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don't get noticed and you don't go
anywhere. And one of the shames,

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as one of the sad things is
that when I was on the independent scene,

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when I was wrestling for ECW and
Wrestling in Japan, I did wrestle

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every match like it was my last
match. And then when the crowd start

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getting big, you start looking out
there and you start thinking, Oh,

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there's a lot of people out here
tonight, and there's going to be a

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lot of people out here tomorrow night. I'd better keep something in reserve.

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And at that point, when you
start being a businessman, you lose something

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really important. But I'm so glad
that I had those moments slugging it out.

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I've been with Colt on many an
independent show, went to bat from

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on several occasions under the crazy This
might sound crazy, but I was going

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under the premise that if you get
over everywhere you go in the country,

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in the world, there's a good
chance you're going to get over in WWE

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as well. And some people didn't
see it that way, except for Scotty

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gold Man. Scotty gold Man,
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free over on Patreon, but stick
around. We'll be right back after this

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break. You were talking about your
independent days, and we've done like two

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podcasts before, yep, and I
remember the second one you were like,

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you better ask me some stuff that
I haven't talked about because you get bored

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of the same question. Yeah,
And so I was kind of really thinking,

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like you were doing hardcore wrestling,
but I was like, I'm the

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independence or at least in Japan,
the anfamous death matches, and I was

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kind of interested in like when the
first time like a heart like someone was

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like, I'd like you to go
through nay or or barbed wire, and

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I understand that. Like backyard wrestling, I too, like we did some

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dumb shit, but once you start
getting trained. I'm sure Dominic Denucci wasn't

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like pay some boys. So there
hasn't been a point where either it was

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approached to you or you approached it
to somebody else. And I was kind

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of curious when that came into First
of all, I was always drawn to

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the wild stuff. So earlier yesterday
I was doing an interview for some of

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the upcoming A and E biographies,
and they were talking about Sergeant Slaughter and

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how the first hardcore I guess Morocco
Snooka in eighty three July eighty three,

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a few months before the famous Cell
match was a pretty hardcore match. But

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Slaughter and the Iron Sheek from eighty
four was just outstanding. It was incredible,

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and it wasn't necessarily what they were
doing, it was how they were

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doing it. And I just always
felt what I say attracted, meaning like

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that was something I wanted to do. So I was given the opportunity when

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I started wrestling to take the things
that I liked to see and bring them

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to life with the feeling that if
I liked it, some of you would

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too. One of the beautiful things
about a week like this is no longer

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a weekend, is that there's something
for everyone here. So if you're not

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a WWE fan, there's impact right
there's new Japan was right here, and

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if you like the crazy stuff,
they've got some of that going on as

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well. The first time I was
given the chance to go, I was

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asked about Japan. Now I'd done
the Baba Tour, which is, you

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know, really strong style traditional wrestling, but I'd heard about the Blood and

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Guts organizations, and I was coming
off of three years in WCW, so

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I really wanted to get back there. I never thought WW was in the

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cards, so I wasn't looking at
doing stuff WW was not interested in,

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which would be that wild hardcore stuff. But then as soon as I heard

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that Terry Funk, that's Funk with
an end, so I'm not dropping a

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bombs on any of you. As
soon as I heard he had signed with

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IWA Japan, I made that phone
call to Victor Canonis, and I was

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like, I want in because cult. I wanted to prove to the fans

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and also to myself that I was
someone who could draw money. I always

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felt like, as much as I
loved my three years in WCW, it

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felt like just so when I was
getting the momentum going, that rug would

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be swept out from underneath me.
So Japan was. It wasn't until Japan.

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Japan was the first time where you
started getting super bloody and well,

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I've been in some bloody endeavors,
but this was the first time I had

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toys to help me in those endeavors. So we had a guy who was

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worth either between five hundred million and
one billion dollars. He was the owner

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based on the real estate market in
Tokyo at the time, and he was

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the guy who invented some of these
crazy matches. He was like the mad

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professor, mister Asano. And so
the first thumbtack match that was me.

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We called it a pushpin misery deathmatch. And I'm sometimes asked like, well,

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why didn't you sue Nigan since you
were using the barbed wire bat in

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nineteen ninety five, And I,
like brother, I was like the eleventh

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guy in Japan to use the barbed
wire bad. If I'm gonna sue Nigan,

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I'm gonna have to stand in back
of a long line. Because they

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liked that wild stuff and they respected
it. And that was the difference at

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the time, is that you didn't
have a feeling like people weren't watching you

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or you know, looking down at
you. It was considered a really respectable

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form of wrestling in Japan. Did
you would you ask somebody about like,

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oo does this hurt? Or were
there like besides Terry Funk, who I'm

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sure, but were there like other
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you advice on how to like do
hardcore right. I took to it pretty

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quickly. Yeah, I had Terry
there. I wasn't comfortable with the fire

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stuff at all. Terry wanted to
determine into fire a fireman. That didn't

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work out well for either of us. There's that one crazy match from January

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tenth, nineteen ninety five, and
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people do long stretches in jail for
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each other willingly. But if anyone
caught the last tour I did, this

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was all me. Is my favorite
part of the show. To talk about

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that match in front of one hundred
and fifty people, talk about bringing your

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A game, and I remember Tracy
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hovered over a kerosene here because the
buildings were not heated and it was just

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slightly above freezing, and he saw
the state of mind. Now this is

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this is right. Sometimes I don't
even know could how I managed to survive,

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let alone thrive and professional wrestling because
I didn't have any of that.

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I didn't have the size, I
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didn't have a monster truck. I
didn't have a cool hunting dog. I

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didn't hunt, I didn't fish.
To this day, I drive a minivans.

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Some of you might know fe female
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over the course of a few months, and she looked at me one day

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and goes, you're an emo kid
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that fact, notwithstanding what I said
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of Tokyo, will rank among the
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when he looked at me, goes, Cactus, there's not too many people

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out there, promised me, you
won't do anything crazy, and I looked

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at him like it was the most
absurd request I'd ever heard. I just

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looked him and said, you know, I can't do that. That's badass,

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right, that's badass. Yeah.
One last thing I did want to

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talk about. I guess we're here
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I just at the ring about our
show. I just got to meet Sam

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Richardson from the Detroiters, which made
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You know, I was so excited, and I just I know you've talked

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about it. In your books.
But there's gotta be so many just different

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we you know, I know people
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so it's like who do we look
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there's actors and singers, so many
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I don't know if anyone sparks right, oh well, you know I've talked

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about Tory Amos right until you guys
were tired of it. But her music

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really inspired me. But a lot
of people along the way, some people

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I've seen in venues, you know, that were no more filled than this,

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given their heart out, and I
just I like that. I really

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like people are passionate about what they
do. I would say the strangest meeting

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I've ever had is with Beyonce.
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Nets to do something with their mascot, you know, and my back was

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killing me. I've got like two
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my lower back just to try to
closeline the mascot. And because I was

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a VIP, I got to go
in the back and jay Z it was

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one of the Nets owners. And
if there was ever. I had my

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oldest son, Duey with me and
he was probably eighteen at the time.

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Jay Z is the first rapper I've
seen to not be a pro wrestling fan.

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You know what bothers me is I
think he was a wrestling fan and

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he wouldn't put me over in front
of my side. But here's the thing.

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I know what it's like to be
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when someone's looking for any reason to
get out of the conversation. And Beyonce

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was totally invested for like the ninety
seconds we shared together. So but she

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is absolutely every bit as beautiful as
you've imagined and seen her. Hey,

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the shows are ad free over on
Patreon, but I'm gonna take a quick

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break and then we'll be back.
Did anybody see the Super Bowl this year

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with Rihanna? Did anybody see Bill
Goldberg's reaction to Rihanna's performance? Hey?

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Was Bill was a little angry,
right, He thought it was inappropriate.

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And I was asked what I thought
if I was angry at Rihanna, and

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I thought, now, this he's
like going back to the Sandman being drunk

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at a show. You don't get
mad at the Sandman for doing what he

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does and being who he is.
You get mad at the promoter who booked

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him to be who he is and
what. So as my thing, I

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was like, if you don't want
an act that gropes, they're junk,

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don't book and act who gropes they're
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Right, And it brings up But
you know what, when I heard about

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that, I instantly was brought back
to a moment in time. This is

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one of my favorite moments as a
wrestler and the best moment I've ever shared

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with a true legend in our business
talking about nature boy Rick Flair, Who

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I do that pretty well? Right? Who? So I was doing a

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benefit show for Hurricane Helms back when
Hurricane nearly lost his foot many years ago,

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seven eight, nine years ago.
So I was doing a benefit show

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in Charlotte, and out of respect
for Rick, he was the first person

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I called. I figured, I'm
gonna invite Rick. He's going to turn

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it down. At least I did
the respectful thing, and I said,

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Rick, it's Bick Foley. You'd
like to know if you'd like to be

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my guest at my show for Hurricane
Helps. He goes absolutely, brother,

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I said okay, and then Rick
not only came to the show, but

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he lined up media for us in
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not just the man everywhere else,
the man in Charlotte. And right

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before Rick and Guy, I go
on, we're supposed to see the winner

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of a local talent show. Who's
a ten year old kid who has won

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with his Michael Jackson impression. And
I have not worked this out with the

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sound guy yet, but I'm gonna
see if he can begin the beat of

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Billy Jean. WHOA. The guy
starts doing his thing, and he was

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good, And after about fifteen seconds
he went with his hand when I would

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preferred to not go at his hand, and I look at Rick, and

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Rick looks at me, and then
I look at the kids parents and they're

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continuing to dance as if nothing else
is going on. I'm fifteen seconds later

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that he had reached down and he
grabs himself a hearty handful and holds it

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there. Nature boy, Rick Flair, greatest wrestler has ever been, turns

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to me and goes, he's really
got a handful there, brother, WHOA?

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And if you can imagine the scene. Here's a ten year old kid

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playing with his penis while his parents
applaud him and tapped their feet, while

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the greatest champion of all time and
the hardcore legend who supposedly hate each other

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are doubled over laughing so hard Rick
stot tears streaming down his face. It

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was a bonding moment like no other. So that's what I thought when I

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saw Rihanna do her thing. There
you go. You got a pretty good

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Rick Flair's story out of it,
too. Right. Also, I don't

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know if anybody knew this, but
Mick unreal Rick Flair impersonation, it's not

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bad, right, wonder I only
have like four voices, My bench is

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pretty good. My Terry Funk is
really good. Can I can I give

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them just a little Terry Funk or
you want to lead me in another direction?

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No, no, I was.
I was thinking about my improv skills

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here, and I would Okay,
I'm a young would you like me to

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come into anything and let's say I'm
a young wrestler, you're Terry Funk.

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Would you like just know this is
Terry Funk. After that match in Japan,

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after the January tenth one in front
of one hundred and fifty people,

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proudest I've ever been because of the
lengths we were willing to go to try

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to put that little promotion on the
map because they had their media there.

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Do you want me to play mcfoley
and you're Terry Funk? Yeah sure,

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yeah, sure, So the deal
is okay, all right, So imagine

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Colt is mc foley badly torn.
I mean, I remember coming home and

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going to the doctor on Long Island. He looked at me and said,

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I've heard about these type of injuries
in prison breaks because of the barbed wire.

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When it's over, it's eighteen nineteen
minutes long. I breathed this huge

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sigh of relief. I lost.
So that's what I do. I'm good

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at it too. I'm mc foley, and I lose matches. But I

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breathed this deep sigh of relief.
And then I hear this noise I won't

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refer to as a voice because I
didn't identify it readily as a voice.

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At first, it went coctus,
so I didn't respond. It was like

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a voice in the wind. I
just went until I heard it again.

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Coctus, Coctus, where are you, Terry, I'm right here. I

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was a little less mellow than that, sorry, and he starts yelling out

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respect, respect as we crawled towards
each other. There's only one hundred and

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fifty fans, all of them in
winter coats, and they part like it's

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the Red Sea, like it's some
type of superpower, you know, convention.

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And I get up there and he
goes respect, and we pulled each

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other up by our broken, beating, bleeding bodies, and I sank that

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hug in like yeah. And then
I heard Terry whisper in my ear.

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I gotta tell you the hundred if
the fans, they applauded so politely and

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sincerely, and then he was like
a perfect ending to the hardest match I've

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ever had. And then I hear
him whisper in my ear. Pile Drive

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me what pile? Drive me?
Cactus? Who was I to disobey Terry

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Funk? So I turned the fable
Funker upside down, trouve him head first.

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That cold gymnasium floor and the greatest
thing about it. And I believe

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that it's not proper to disparage people
because of their skin, gender, sexual

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orientation, you name it. But
it is okay to point out differences in

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our cultures if they're positive. Japanese
fans do tend to respond in unison only

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seconds earlier they've been happy in unison
and went whoa. And when I while

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drove Terry funk, I had trouble
saying pile drove right, those fans turned

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on me in a heartbeat and went, oh, but that was one of

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the best nights of my life.
Nobody. Here's something I'm gonna tell you.

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I don't want to cross into DDP
motivational territory, but I will tell

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you this, my friends, WrestleMania
moments are not just about wrestling. They're

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about lives. My life, could
slife, your life. And the cool

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thing about WrestleMania moments you get to
decide for yourself what they are. It's

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not dictated to you by the size
of the crowd or your spot on the

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card. And if I say,
wrestling in front of one hundred and fifty

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people and a cold little gymnasium was
every bit as important as appearing in front

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of one hundred that one thousand at
Mania, She's gotta trust me. I've

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been there, brother, so that
would be my Terry Funk Story shows their

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ad free over on Patreon. But
I'm going to take a quick break and

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then we'll be back. Hey,
you want to take a few questions,

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maybe six questions? I know Micky, Jameson and Ago. All right,

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hold on, come over here.
What's your name? Were you from?

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Gurge? From Sacramento? From Sacramento? All right? My question for you,

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and I hope you've never been asked
this before. Did hurt? No,

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I'm not gonna I've seen your live
show. I'm not gonna ask that

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cult mentioned Dominic de Nugee. You
started with Shane Douglas. What was that

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brotherhood like? From the time you
guys trained for the next twenty years.

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It always surprised people. Shane and
I were such great friends because we were

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really a lot different, but we
complimented each other perfectly in the ring,

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like we were having like state of
the arc independent matches by the standards of

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the mid to late eighties. You
know, you could you you could go

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and you could steal a show by
having a pretty good match. You really

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could. Yeah, there were some
bad there was some bad talent out there.

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Uh, And now, brother almost
everybody can go if they're getting booked

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regularly. You guys really have a
treat, you know. I know some

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people get down on the aw shows
or the raw show or smackdowns, like

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were you watching from the Allentown Convention
Center in eighty three or you didn't even

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see the slightest inkling of a competitive
match. So I think the talent has

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gotten so much better. But Shane
and I pushed each other. Shane found

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out that I was, you know, sleeping in my car or at a

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fourteen dollars motel, and so every
Saturday night would stay with Shane and his

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mom. I really owe him a
lot. I don't think either of us

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would have gotten to the big time
without each other. And so that's why

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again he's Shane wasn't in great standing
with WW when I was inducted ten years

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ago, but I specifically went out
of my way to mention him as one

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of the guys who had the biggest
impacts on my career. So thanks for

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the question, Thank you. And
I just feel like that time, like

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Shane Douglas did like an amazing drop
kick and Melzer was like five stars.

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You're so right about that, and
you have to think about it, and

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I don't want to speak for Mick, but like Mick was so ahead,

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like Mick and Samboo of just like
those shows were so dull, like watching

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back, you know, and then
these Mick and Taboo and some of these

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wrestlers are standing out and it's just
like, holy fuck, different level Mick

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for sure. Hey, you know, I just saw Saboo today and he

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admonished me for calling him terry.
But I'll tell you what, brother,

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I came back after four years of
not wrestling in two thousand and four,

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teamed up with the Rock, and
I thought I gave him. I thought

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I gave an underwhelming performance. I
did. I was. I was playing

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it safe, I really was.
I was playing not to suck, and

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that's not how you achieve greatness.
And so I really went back to the

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well to try to get that eye
of the Tiger. And the match I

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watched, or the matches I watched
more than the others, were the independent

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matches I had with Saboo, and
I would look get the stuff we did,

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and I would say, holy shit, we were earning our money out

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there. And it was seeing how
much I was putting into those things that

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00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.160
made me feel like I had a
lot more to give when I had a

406
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.480
chance to wrestle Randy Orton, And
if you guys liked that match, which

407
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:21.640
I did, you can credit the
inspiration behind those independent matches I did with

408
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:23.519
Sabou. Very cool, very cool. This guy over here, I had

409
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:27.119
a question. Let me know your
name. Where you're from, Josh from

410
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.359
Phoenix, Arizona. All right,
all right, Josh, what's your question?

411
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:33.519
Hey Mick, I'm a big fan
of your new pod. Fully,

412
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.519
it's pot thank you. Yeah,
show of hands. If anyone knows I

413
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.240
have a podcast, Okay, show
of hands. If anybody's actually listening to

414
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:47.640
my podcast, it's no art of
wrestling, my friends. I just want

415
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:49.440
to know what it was like now
that you dipped your foot into the podcasting

416
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.400
game. What it's like to share
some of these stories that you've never shared

417
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:56.119
before in the podcast. Yeah.
Yeah, Well it's a different type of

418
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:59.240
setting because you're not so much entertaining
as you are. You know, I'm

419
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:02.119
pointing, Ah, I'm talking to
you, guys. I'm putting a little

420
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.839
little bizaz on it. I do. I like Conrad Thompson a lot.

421
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.960
It's so easy because they do all
the research and I just have to call

422
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:17.079
on my You know powers of memory, which I'm are surprisingly good. So

423
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:18.480
there are some matches I don't know
if you're the same way Colt, where

424
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.400
there's only so much you can store
in your brain. So we tend to

425
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.759
remember the matches that went really well
and the ones that did not go well

426
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.160
at all. And if it was
a really good match or a really bad

427
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.000
match, chances are got some memories
of it. If it's somewhere in the

428
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.079
middle. And there are hundreds and
hundreds of matches I have no recollection of,

429
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.720
not because they were bad, but
just because they were okay, or

430
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:47.319
like something sparked, there was something
that weirdly sticks in your brain like this,

431
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.599
like xicw had the greatest pizza.
You know what I'm saying. It's

432
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.640
not like I remember wrestling for xIC
Dotty really Yeah, Like there's weird things

433
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.319
that why you remember a match,
right, Yeah, and the weird So

434
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.640
for that example, I think the
weird thing is so good or it was

435
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.960
so bad. Yeah, that's those
other weird things. Yeah, Nick,

436
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.200
Buena Park, California, MiG big
Fan, I think you have the greatest

437
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:12.720
spot in wrestling history. Question.
Who do you think has the best it

438
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:17.559
factor in all of wrestling, awww
man wherever in all of wrestling, oh

439
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:23.079
Man, but besides Cold Cabana.
Obviously, considering I might one day want

440
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.119
to go back to work for him, I have to give the nod to

441
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:31.480
Triple h H. I'm joking,
guys, Jesus, he could have it.

442
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:34.799
He did have it, but I
was like, oh my god,

443
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:42.359
oh I will, I will.
I'm not above pandering or a potential job

444
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.440
down the road. Well, there's
so many people at the Factor. I'm

445
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.599
thinking of Becky Lynch right off the
top of my head. You know,

446
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:52.680
people would just jump out at you, and uh, you know that the

447
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:57.119
women are doing such an amazing job. I saw Charlotte flairback stage. I

448
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.559
could not believe how ripped she was. Right, I took off my shirt

449
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:07.480
and we got into a pose down
right there was this guy had a question,

450
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.200
this is two more and then two
more? Yeah, what's your name?

451
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:13.640
Way from? My name is Isaiah. I'm from San Antonio, Texas.

452
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.079
Uh, I'm a big fan of
the Dudelove character. I just had

453
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:20.559
good questions. You're the one.
I mean, I'm I'm a Vintace T

454
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.599
shirt collector. The Dudelove tea is
like one of my most prized possessions.

455
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:30.079
I just had a question about the
Dudelove character as far as any memories that

456
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:34.039
you had about Well, you know, Dudelove came to life in San Antonio

457
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.720
at Freeman Coliseum, and that was
a really great moment. I think when

458
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:43.319
my wife came running out as one
of the dude ats and did things to

459
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.440
me in the middle of that ring
that would have gotten us canceled in an

460
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:51.319
earlier future incarnation. That was a
lot of fun. And I'll tell you

461
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.160
what, Dude was always the one
I dismissed, and I forgot how to

462
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:57.200
do it. For a while,
I forgot how to be the dude,

463
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.200
to the point where when I was
doing thank you videos for the Santa Claus

464
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:06.400
documentary that we put together in twenty
fourteen, I was doing it as dude

465
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.440
and I actually stopped and I said, I sound like Dusty Rhodes. I've

466
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:14.119
forgotten to be dude. But last
year, I guess by going back two

467
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:19.079
years little over Tiers, when I
appeared on Most Wanted Treasures, they wanted

468
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.199
me to do some stuff in character, and so I put those things on

469
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.599
and I slowly felt it coming back
to me and now as little as I

470
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.800
liked being dude love when I actually
was dude love. Brother, you order

471
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:37.519
a cameo video for me and he
will entertain you. He got one.

472
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.679
Did I sing him a song?
Oh man? I'm like, oh man,

473
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.559
I maybe I'm letting people down.
I only have seventeen different birthday songs,

474
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.000
which is sixteen more than most people
have. Right, all right?

475
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.599
What more? What's your name?
Where you from? Hey? My name

476
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:54.880
is Lavan, So I'm from Los
Angeles, born and raised. Thank you

477
00:34:54.920 --> 00:35:00.840
a few things. We have a
birthday that we share. We're that we

478
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:06.639
share June Seventh's yes, all right, So I'm here with my friend Sam

479
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.840
Um. We love you. By
the way. One of our favorite WrestleMania

480
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:15.679
matches is your match with Edge at
WrestleMania twenty two. At the point that

481
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.119
you were at when you had that
match, Like, what's something that you

482
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.920
learned from that match? If I'm
sure you did. I don't want to

483
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:24.360
say like if anything, but like, is there anything that you could think

484
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.800
of off the toime? Yeah?
I learned that seventeen years ago. I

485
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.480
was still being still capable of having
a good match as long as you put

486
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:37.440
me in the ring with the best
wrestler in the world. I can be

487
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.519
carried my friends, or at least
I could. Then you know what I'm

488
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:45.000
gonna do. Raise your hands if
you have the slightest modicum of respect for

489
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.800
me, Okay, if you want
to keep it that way, all close

490
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:53.360
your eyes while I clumsily walk off
that stage. I kid you not.

491
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:57.880
When I see an incline of about
eight inches, I get more frightened than

492
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.360
I was being thrown off the cell
by the undertake. Here the count of

493
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.440
three. Let's all close our eyes
and chant folly one, two three,

494
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:15.280
everyone, unbelieabel give it up for
mcfolly wow. And that was just myself

495
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:19.360
and Mick Foley up on the stage. We're gonna take one more quick,

496
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:29.800
short, little break and then I'll
tell you all about my plugs and coming

497
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:34.960
even. All right, the Patreon
is still going strong. All episodes are

498
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.119
ad free over there, and there's
always fun goodies, including a tier where

499
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.960
I can send you stickers every month
and write your address and give you a

500
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.039
fun nickname. And I try to
do a different nickname every single month.

501
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:49.599
It's hard with some of those people
who have been belonging for like two years

502
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:52.400
now follow me on all of the
social media's. At Cold Commanda, I

503
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:58.079
do live shopping with Pro Wrestling Teas
every Tuesday at five thirty Central over at

504
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PWT live dot com. We give
away a lot of free chase aw figures,

505
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:06.639
which is kind of wild. I
also play video games over at twitch

506
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:13.119
dot tv Slash Cold Command and buy
some merch Coltmerch dot Com upcoming. I

507
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.360
don't have anything crazy in the books
right now, honestly. Again, the

508
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:21.280
Squared Circle Expo is in an Indianapolis, Indiana up seventh and eighth. It's

509
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.000
a real fun convention. Also,
I'll be throwing up the first pitch at

510
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:28.880
the Brewers game on Easter Sunday.
That should be a hoot. Stay tuned

511
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:34.000
there shall be another podcast from Indianapolis. I always appreciate your support, Just

512
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.599
letting you know I appreciate you.
The ones who have been from with me

513
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.360
for a little of the time.
There's a lot of you who have been

514
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:45.239
with me for a long long time. Speaking of long time podcasts, go

515
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Funny, one of the original comedy podcasts.

516
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I did it while in Los Angeles
with comedian Jimmy Pardo. He knows

517
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nothing about wrestling. Alright. One
of my favorites a very very special podcast

518
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appearance for me check myself, Willow
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519
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I'm the Best Show with Tom Sharpling
and again check out wrestling Anonymous. All

520
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right, this has been the art
of wrestling for Cold Camanda. I'm Cold

521
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:37.880
Comanda. Thanks. All right.
Here's the trick. If I do bonus

522
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:44.320
material on the back end, I
could put these commercial breaks in and then

523
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:51.280
like I make more revenue. So
let me sneak in these commercials and I

524
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.000
will put stuff in between. I
don't know how good it will be,

525
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.920
but it's it is content. But
this is just like a nice fun way

526
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.000
of me. He get in some
commercials, you know, and it's on

527
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:05.239
the back end. What do you
care? So listen to the commercials or

528
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:10.199
don't listen whatever. This is a
This is a classic business move your podcast,

529
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:15.199
Hustler, Cold Combata. Before all
that, I want to bring up

530
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:21.760
a person who is not only a
dear friend, mentor hero, uh,

531
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:28.280
pioneer, uh the an absolute legend
and anything he ever decides to do,

532
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:37.159
I'm gonna call him the podfather a
professional wrestling and I'm talking about cold Cabanta.

533
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.000
Come grab Mike number two. You're
gonna be may second for a minute.

534
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:46.920
Everybody, turn it on, turn
it on, don't break it.

535
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:51.639
Literally, yeah, he broke it. I think I did. Know.

536
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:55.599
Hey, all right, hello everybody, I'm gonna ask you no, I

537
00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:00.320
think this should be your job.
Mega Ran as the teacher here, I'm

538
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:07.079
gonna get everybody to take five big
steps forward. There go. That was

539
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:12.920
great. Look at that. If
you're in fist bump range, then you

540
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.039
are in maximum enjoyment range. So
you folks up top have loss, but

541
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:20.719
at your comfortability, at your comfortability. But we want to make this as

542
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.400
a very intimate, very fun thing
and give it up. Mega Rand's gonna

543
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.159
be hanging out all night. So
give it up from Mega Ran. He

544
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:31.320
is amazing. Nerd Core Ran.
We have a man in a suit.

545
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:36.920
I thought for sure you owned this
place, but nope. Okay, okay,

546
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:42.719
these two guys nice, nice,
very nice. So we have kind

547
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.840
of a mixture here of myself and
another guest I'm about to bring up,

548
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:50.079
and I guess we want to put
it under the guys of a podcast that

549
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.400
I used to do and I still
do occasionally which is the art of wrestling,

550
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.840
a podcast that went from for many
years. So I'm gonna kind of

551
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.800
start it off a little bit as
I am recording it, and then I

552
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.159
bring on a friend and we will
kind of start talking about wrestling, and

553
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.519
it's gonna be really fun. So
uh and on the count of three,

554
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.320
can I get you start making some
noise and I will fake pretend to come

555
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:15.079
on to a stage. I think
at this time I'm gonna invite Mega Ran

556
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:20.719
on stage. Is that correct?
Let's give it up from Mega Ran.

557
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:25.480
Everybody, Um, that was great. Oh I'm loud, okay, so

558
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.440
let be so hot. You're so
hot, very hot. That was awesome.

559
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.159
Oh my, all those great stories. Man, that was super cool,

560
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.519
unbelievable. I know we have I
think this is my time to parts.

561
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.360
Is that? Do you have any
clue? I be the only one

562
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:44.760
that knows is Michael from High Spots. Let me see, uh my fifteen,

563
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:46.480
it's probably your time. I don't
know. I think it is my

564
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.239
time. I'm gonna hang out a
little bit. I do have some much

565
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:54.440
somebody did steal too microL rollers in
my words? Uh if I if we

566
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:57.960
all close our eyes and chant folly
and someone puts them back, I would

567
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:02.360
appreciate it. But if not,
I guess you stole yourself. Some cards

568
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:07.360
and micropowlievable congratulations. Um wow,
I could go. I could interrogate every

569
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:12.320
single one of you. I'm thinking
about it. Lock the doors. We're

570
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.599
getting some answers. The man just
cheers me like it was me. It

571
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:21.840
was I did tell you, this
is my time. We have so many

572
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.159
great acts coming up stars from professional
wrestling. It's a fun night. I

573
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:30.559
do encourage everybody to grab a drink, have a good time, enjoy yourself,

574
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.280
make some new friends. We're all
wrestling fans. That's most importantly.

575
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.880
Introduce yourself to somebody and tell them
and ask them who their favorite wrestler is

576
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.679
about that that's cool. Who's your
favorite I'm gonna say, yeah, my

577
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:47.119
favorite wrestlers knew Jack. It's true. I wish knew Jack would jump off

578
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:53.960
that billy right like we know he
would jump off that balcony, but that

579
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:58.039
one. Yeah, he was such
a good wrestler. I loved him so

580
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.239
bad. Jack, thank you very
much, and I appreciate it. Having

581
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:06.559
great rest of your night. Thank
you, thank you. Co comeet everyone. Wow,