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Hello, Hello, Doubt Doyle,
Double D. I see him in

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there, Bro Doyle. He's got
double D's girl. You might catch me

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perspiring quite a bit down here because
my AC is not working and I'm sweating

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like Mike Tyson Greek spelling me bro
pouring down my back right now? Is

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it really? Yeah? So we
wore the white shirts so you couldn't tell.

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Ye, it could be in a
cornfield. Yeah, that's some bad

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weather over there. What happened there? Something in Nio right. Uh,

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they're getting a lot of storms.
Man, bloods or something with the whole

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house that was all the way north. Yeah, I wasn't you right?

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Hell no, oh, Man,
cameras down the corns, you know what

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I mean. Yeah, he's putting
cameras in the cornfields. Baby, you

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do When did you call from Florida? I want to go on the record.

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I'm going for the Panthers today.
That's your that's your. Yeah.

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I think that the oiler girl with
the flat is I don't think it's gonna

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work. I think the mojo has
one off. Who's the oiler girl.

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That's the girl who showed the jugs
and went viral. I didn't see How

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do I? How do I?
How do I see that? How could

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you not see it? It was
everywhere. It's like the same thing with

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that. You gotta spin on it
girl. The hot two girls that I

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did see that that carry on not
daring. Wow. You know God should

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have hot food on his hand tonight. It's a bro. No, I

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ain't showing any ship. You gotta
do that thing. I don't have to

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hoalk do anything. You want to
see my gump head. He got a

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gump pair cut today. Check it
out. Bro. He's he's like he's

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waiting at the bus stop. That's
for he is right there looking around for

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the life. Is like a box
of chocolates. Jesus, thank you.

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A A Ron dude from Michigan.
I like that, Adam the dude from

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Michigan. And he's like, I
don't know, I should have that boy

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Scout like you have one of your
kids, you with a piece of paper.

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I know they're at boys cuts.
Otherwise that happened down here with sandals

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on. I think you throws out
here really quick. Bro. On Friday,

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I attended a funeral with the Boys
and the Scout Troop of a member

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of the VFW. BRO. He
fought in World War Two at the Okinawa

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and Ewo GM. Probably I was
like ninety six years old right now.

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You look at a guy like that, dude. It was very moving.

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The priest was talking about true heroes, and this is what I always get

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back to, Bro, not only
the people in the service. Those guys

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were like, can you imagine a
bulls on these guys, Bro? Eighteen

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years old? Some of those guys, most of those Yeah yeah yeah.

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So that's why I like to say
there are heroes like superheroes, and then

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there were real heroes, BRO,
Like I consider truly the fire fighter community

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true heroes, Bro, because they
do it. They's selfless, they do

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it. We can't see what of
the persons in and we're going in to

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do with search. We can't see
what color, what race, what religion,

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what sex. I don't give a
ship. You're going to help somebody

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irregardless of any of these factors.
Bro. So that my step friend is

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a true hero. So not to
put the gonzo on the same plane as

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a guy who fought in fucking okon
out. But I'm just saying, you

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know, same typ of heroes.
What I'm saying, if you see Louis

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looking down a lot, he'll be
checking out. No, no, I'm

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looking at him. You have to
believe that heroes exist. That where was

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that? We gotta get that.
Oh, sometimes you have to believe that

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heroes exist. That was the shirt. That was a goot tattoo. Yeah,

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we stole it. We got and
yeah, is there somebody walking around

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in your backyard loop? Yeah right, yeah, I just saw somebody walk

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by to you at that same area. Yeah yeah, hell yeah. I

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don't know. Would pay a couple
of commercials because oh, Mike Milney,

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he's coming on the boat trip.
You just ls repeat, Hey, you

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guys, you have an RSVP,
get get your i's up to h bo,

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Okay, I get to we got
to play called here we go.

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Pablo, your lorn guy in the back.

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other the other part of that is
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you come on, he is get

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a heck cut first. All right, that's it. Let's bring Mike uh

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YouTube roof when you do best?
You're ready? Oh yeah, let's go.

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All right, coming to the stage, our boy, Mike Roy.

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I thought the whole him to tumble
horns. What's up, Michael? Sure

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you want to do this? You're
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Yeah. I can do that right
now before he gets before we tarnish your

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name. You got time? Yeah, I look at John. Can you

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guys mind if we do the anthem
tonight in honor of fourth I like it

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to look at you. He's just
blocked me into his I don't think it's

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crazy. Oh he's something, he's
something. Here we go, Oh say

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can see by the joneser lie,
what's so? Proudly we had the Twilight's

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last flea me whose broad stripes and
bright stars through the pass five or the

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red but we watch were so gaans
lee streaming he the rock, get Raglan

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the bobs, bursting hay gay fruit
through the night. That our flag was

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STI there, Oh save us that
stops spangled bad word for the all the

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bread. That's my end. Jay. Let me give a little cheers to

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twenty twenty one truck. Tell him
and he's back in the chat tonight,

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my little sort off buddy. S
all right, Mike, welcome to the

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show, as we as we always
do. I do remember working with you,

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and always not like Mike Milner was
friendly. You're one of the friendly

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guys, always smiling at us,
never never muttering under the breath, you

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know what I mean. You were
a friendly yeah, mistaking it. He

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just didn't mutter it. It was
he's got a good game face. Was

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a squad guy. So right,
good point, see that. But let's

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go back a little further. Third
generation Firefighter correct FDNY, third generation that

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is correct, So Grandpa, that
was Buck Grandpa. Then segue at the

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pops. Grandpa got on the job
July first, nineteen thirty seven, and

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he stayed there for a few years, I think ten twelve before he went

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to eighty nine engine. Where was
he first? He didn't say where.

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It was first forty seven engine,
forty seven engine. I'm sorry, I

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thought I said that, okay,
forty seven engine. And he was from

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throgs Necks, so he was doing
the commute, you know, from throgs

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neckt in the roads then weren't like
they are today, or maybe they were

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better than than they are today.
No, but he made his way to

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eighty nine Engine and retired out of
there with twenty two years on the job.

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So you remember talking to him about
that, You remember him talking about

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the job. I used to remember
him and my dad talking about it.

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It was my job. My father
got on in sixty three, I think,

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three years after my grandfather retired.
So there was a lot of you

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know, talking about the job as
I was growing up, So I used

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to hear a lot. If I'm
not mistaken, there was a guy from

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eighty nine Engine who went off the
backstep and hit his head on the curb

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and got killed. Killed. But
I think from what I remember, my

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grandfather was driving really so yeah,
like the guy wasn't holding on or something

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and went around the corner. And
I haven't verified that. I mean,

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I remember hearing the story, but
I never went and verified it myself.

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But when you talk to anybody with
history of the job, more guys died

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falling off the rake or believe it, or not lotting the pole, then

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you would think, yeah, right, yeah, we had a chief slide

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the pole. In the seven and
one, guys were washing the walls,

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but the poles got soaked. Yeah, press, do you ever do that

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when the pole is wet? Oh
my god, it's horrible. Man.

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He had no idea. Yeah.
She added both his legs. That was

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it. Wow. Yeah, he
was a great chief. Did Did any

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grandfather's brothers get on the job too, or you have dad's brothers. My

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grandfather's brother became a cop. He
ended up working in the four two precinct,

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which was not too many blocks away
from forty one. I didn't realize

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the whole time I was in forty
one, or even on the job for

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that matter, that he was in
the four to two precincts because we used

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to drive by it all the time. But that's crazy. And he was

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there door and you know, the
civil disturbances and everything, and it was

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he for the newspaper article he got
interviewed in and it was it was pretty

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entertaining. Yeah, back in those
days it was a little different. And

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as my grandfather on the left,
my father who got on sixty got a

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signed to the ninety six engine,
stayed there his whole career through the war

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years. Wow, so there was
one of us in eight decades from the

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thirties still the two thousands, grant, Is your granddad still around? Oh

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no, neither one of neither one
of my father unfortunately. Yeah. Did

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your dad retire seventy seven sets and
he didn't get to work with him,

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He only came. No, did
they see you get mentioned your dad to

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get to see you on the job. He did, Yes, Yes,

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he got to see me start.
I mean when he retired in seventy seven

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we end up moving to Florida.
So he was just like, all right,

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we're out of here. Oh shit, what about your grandfather? Did

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your grandfather to get to see you
come on? And he had passed already

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no, he got to see me
get on the job in Florida like three

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months later. But he did see
that generation, you know, Florida,

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Flora. That's where the guys who
all wear pink panties out of Florida,

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right farm, look at guns.
He's not gonna go for it. He

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ain't going for it, trying to
set the hook. No good, no,

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no, I'm no no, no
no no, no, I'll pass.

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So you go and move to Florida. But did you know you wanted

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to be a fireman before he moved
to Florida. He didn't have no idea,

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No I did. I mean,
I mean my father took me once

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when he went to get his check, you know, back in the old

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days, because we lived in the
Bronx. We lived in Polchester and ninety

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six Engine was eight minutes away from
our apartment, and he took me there

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once and it was like, oh
my god, the big red trucks and

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the poll and this is great.
And you know, a kid in the

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candy store. So they put me
in the rig, you know, blessing

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the airhorn and everything. I was
like wow, and then everything like can

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I go? You get your check? Can I go? So I never

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rode with him because it was just
I mean, in those days, he

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was not big into having somebody ride. That's him on the left. You

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know. Do you know how many
times I've posted that picture? Aren't our

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social media thing like that? Yeah? I mean, that's like one of

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the best pictures ever. Great,
I mean it's in that the Joel Friedberg

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book. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we had thirty one and

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come hang it on there. Yeah, he got through the bar. Yeah,

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it looks like a cigarette in his
mouth. He's the smoker, Tip

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Berrillos, Tip Brillos, Flenn East, the fly service bro. Yeah right,

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and him on the left. This
was a cover of a W N

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y F. It was like a
third or fourth along or something. And

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like he had always told me,
you know, whenever I got on the

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job of Florida, never give up
the nozzle. He's the more key's collapsing

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and he's still holding on to the
sill, holding on to it. And

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that's one of those old brass ones
that probably weighed like two thousand pounds.

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Yeah, I was gonna say we
didn't do so good here. He was

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walking the walk though he didn't let
the novel go bro. No, he

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didn't let it go off the talk. I love those pictures man, different

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generation, Yeah, you know,
like my grandfather. I think I sent

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a couple of pictures of my grandfather, like sitting in the rig you know

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the Dalnation, you know, the
quintessential picture of you know, a fireman

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in the front of the rig driving
with the dalmation next to him. No,

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we didn't. We didn't get any
of those. We went through the

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ones that we had, so okay. The only thing that was Markola,

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his dad. I think we went
over that's with Hadhagen, Right, is

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that that's my father and myself at
the Proby graduation. Yeah. Probably school

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looks like and that's my grandfather's first
company when he got on the job.

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They were at pro They were at
the Rock that day. Wow, for

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training, Like, how is that
possible? Yeah, that's not possible the

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Rock that day. That's that's pretty
cool man. You know he was there.

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Yeah, were about your ghost.
Yeah, so you know, yeah

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that was good. And then obviously
it'll be just while we're still on the

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prov stuff. So you can take
the school. Oh yeah, this is

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your class. Now you mentioned the
guys in your class. The most unfunny

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funny man John Larkia John absolutely was
he. He wasn't funny in Provy school

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either, was he. Uh.
I didn't really have too many interactions with

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him, but I think he was
kind of, you know, keeping himself

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in check so he didn't get in
trouble. Jerry Murphy too, Jerry M.

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Murphy. Yeah, I see Jerry
right in the middle there, I

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see him now, you see you
pointed him out. He still has that

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half cut. Where is he right
straight in the middle, about three four

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rows back one two three four rows
back right in the middle. Yeah,

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it's definitely him doing it. Awry
Archer back right, kind of standing there

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by himself. I say him,
Yeah, where is he on the right?

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You said in the back? Hair's
messy wrestler. I was just gonna

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says, looks like Gonzo. Oh
man, you're taking shots now? You

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all right? So that's good.
I don't want to I don't want to

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miss. But let me skipped ahead
from Florida. Let's go back to Florida.

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Back to Florida when you were were
you're rolling heavy back then a little

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bit. Did they use that term
back then? Yeah, that's nothing heavy

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in Florida because it's too hot.
Ah, too hot. This was uh,

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I think the day I was packing
up to leave to cor That's how

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I remember you. That's that's how
I remember how you looked exactly like that

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with hair. Ute you know ute? Ute? Yeah? You where'd you

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go? Whed to work in Florida
City called Penelas Park. It's between Saint

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Petersburg and Clearwater. Uh oh,
yellow rags, Yeah, they were going

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any fires now, So that was
a little disappointing when I got there that

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they were yellow. But so what
year is this here in Florida? This

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is I got the job in nineteen
eighty one, eighty one. I graduated

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high school June of nineteen eighty,
went to the Fire Academy September of eighty

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graduated December of eighty got a short
gig working as an ambulance driver in the

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county for a few months, and
then got this job in April of eighty

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one. So you were young when
you got there, eighteen eighteen eighteen.

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This picture it was probably well that
that rig wasn't there and when I got

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there, so that was probably eighty
four maybe I would say probably eighty four.

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And the guy standing in front of
me is the guy that was standing

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next to me in the last picture. That's Luis Goofani, who was like

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one of my best friends down there, and he ended up becoming a district

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chief. But he was from East
Meadow. So after I got on the

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job, then we started giving tests
to the new people that wanted to get

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on the job. And he was
taken and he heard my accent and he

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goes, you're from New York.
I said yeah, I said, I'm

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from balk He goes, oh,
from East Meadow. And then that was

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like it from there, you know. He just he latched on me.

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I couldn't get rid of him on
your shoe, couldn't get off, Like

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gum, we still keeping tod.
He comes up, we get together.

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So when did you take the New
York test? Then I took the New

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York test eighty two, the eighty
two tests. My first vacation from the

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Penole's Park job was in June of
eighty two. Came up and all the

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guys he used to hang out with
in Wilston Park, where we ended up

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moving to from park Chester. They
got on the volleys. They were volleys

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there and when I came up,
they were like, you're a Fineman in

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Florida. You know, I said, yeah, what are you a volunteer?

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I said, no, it's all
cities. Everybody gets paid. And

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they're like, oh wow, you
know New York City's given a test.

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Wasn't even thinking about it. Never
crossed my mind. There's that thing again,

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reough right out of nowhere, out
of nowhere. And if I had

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come up a week or two later, I would have missed the filing.

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So it just hit that's great,
And they were like, oh yeah,

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the job's giving a test. You
should go file. And then a friend

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of mine says, hey, listen, a friend of mine works in two

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twenty six, have an engine.
You can go right with him and you

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know, get a feel for it. So it's a lot different when you're

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nineteen years old now and you know, just from a five year old,

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six year old, seven year old
kid going to pick up call this check.

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You're on the job now down there, you got a little bit more

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understanding. I went with the John
Parris and two twenty seven engine to ride

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with him, and I did a
twenty four with him. I got back

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to Williston Park and told my friend
I was staying with, I gotta go

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file for this test. I gotta
go file. Tomorrow's a deadline. I

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got to get an application. I
gotta go file. So he drove me

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in to Tomas Street. I filed
for it, and that's when things kind

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of went in order. You file
in June. The test was in September,

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and you know, then the physical
came and then you got your card

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when you were going to get on, and then the lawsuits happened bound boum

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Bow. So that took like five
years. You know, it took years

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for that whole lawsuit thing to come
to fruition. And then we took the

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new physical Agility test and it was
one hundred. Then the next high score

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was ninety five, then a ninety
and eighty five that way, and so

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I ended up with a ninety seven
and a half I think average twenty two

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hundred on the list. So it
took a few years, but I was

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on the job already down there.
Friends might like, oh, you know

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what, you should take the New
York City PD test because you know,

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all the time counts. I'm like, I don't really want to be a

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cop, and I'm already on the
fire department in Florida, and I was

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enjoying what I was doing, so
I was like, nah, I'm just

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gonna stay here until it comes up
and we're catching any work that mike at

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all. Yeah, we were in
middle class city and it had a decent

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amount of lower class in it too, So we used to you know,

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we used to catch them work trailer
fires because we had some trailer parks in

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our city. We had a huge
response area and we catch them work.

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I mean, my first job was
in a trailer actually, and then the

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rest, you know, house fires
and big like Queen Anne types they had

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in some of the old Panols park
like downtown factory not factories, but more

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like warehouses, you know, like
big tin buildings that you never really went

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on the roof, you know.
And basically it took a multiversal and put

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it down in front of the big
garage door. And you know, boy,

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I mean, so we had some
good job, a lot of accidents.

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I mean, you know, we
got highways running through there. The

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accidents emergency medical, forget it.
I mean it was eighty percent medical.

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This was actually I was the acting
lieutenant on that engine, and that was

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one of my last runs on the
job. In Penel's back, I don't

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think that guy did too good.
No, three d o ways one with

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a decapitation. And you see that
Scotty sign is like a lumberyard where it's

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like a full time hole depot.
One of the guys that we worked with

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was off duty. He worked on
another shift and he worked in there on

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the side. He comes running out
and tells me, hey, Mike,

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that box over there, that's where
the woman's head is. I was like,

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oh, okay, and right,
yeah, four people in the accident,

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three got killed. But accidents like
crazy cause on the trailers, I

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mean, it was just it was
ridiculous how many accidents there are. I

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mean, the minute of saus Terrain
in Florida and Gonzo, you're gonna know

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as soon as sus Terrain tones start
going off, accidents everywhere, it still

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happened. The accidents are still a
diamond dozen down here. It's unbelievable,

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almost as much as like the EMS
runs down there. So we did a

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lot of EMS, and when I
first got on, you know, it

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was kind of slow. The guy
who really took me under his wing was

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this guy named Dan Jones. He
was my lieutenant and he had what they

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called like the super crew. Blair
Bender was the chauffeur and Joe Bailey Don

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Schultz, you know, like two
guys that were so into the job,

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super strong guys, you know,
like you couldn't It was the best chauffeur

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on the job. Edge number one, the first guy hired on that department.

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And then you know Dan Jones,
I think I got hired like nine

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years before me or something, and
with the paramedic school, became a lieutenant,

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you know, super into the training. He was doing the training at

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the academy and he's the one that
would bring me over there on you know,

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why burn days when you could really
do that at vacant houses, people

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would you know, donate. So
that was a lot of fun. But

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that was like the great crew.
Yeah, like the burn Day, you

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know, that's pretty cool. The
Gary Light YEP and the Dot Vada helmets.

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Yeah. Yeah, they don't have
bills anymore. I think they changed

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left the Metros are calling the Metros. They still have departments down here,

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still, some of them do.
Yeah, but a lot of them switched.

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A lot of them like buying myself
and they were like, all right,

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we'll buy them, you know,
the New Yorkers. So it was

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a lot of those got like that
right, only four times bigger. Yeah,

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that's my my TRT helmet that they
made big. We're gonna bring up

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old ship well pummeling him today.
Bro, he's pulling a little bit of

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a p He's a little bit like
this is all good. Big smiles over

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here. Bro, I don't want
to take away from the guests. That's

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all right, fellow Florida guy goes. It goes around, Bro, you

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know that goes around. It's like
a circle. And that job down there,

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I mean, the whole county was
really getting progressive in the fire service.

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We started the first has Matt team
in the county. You know,

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the county is like, we need
a haz Matt team. So they got

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a hold of Dan Jones, who's
uh the guy in the white shirt,

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second from the left, and a
few other chiefs from three other departments,

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and they said, we want you
guys to form a hazards materials response.

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You in it for the county.
So we trained with these other departments,

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had a county wide system and you
know, we became has mess specialists while

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we were down there, and it
was something that I mean, I was,

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you know, wow, doing some
has Matt runs down there, and

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I just couldn't get enough of doing
anything. I didn't want to sit around.

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I became a fouman to do something. I think I just threw up

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my mouth. You know, you
threw up some hazard materials in your mouth.

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Whenever I see those those aren't those
yellow vests that say has back guy

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on it or something. I just
want to vomit. I want to stay

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listen. I'm not I'm not taking
it. I'm just telling you. I

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just threw up my mouth. That's
all I'm just saying. All right,

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not everybody could be one O three
running from fire to fire, you know,

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man, right rock, you know, not much burns down there,

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and they do. They're usually private
dwellings that are made to sind a block

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and they have a you know,
so you get the contents and maybe some

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of the roof joys. Everything else
is concrete, so you know, they're

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pretty you know, straight forward on
how to put them out. Go in

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the front door and do what you
gotta do. But I did have one

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job down there where and I rode
the backstep down there because they still they

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had a couple of rigs that had
the jump seats but I was the fifth

407
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.440
guy on the rig. There was
only two jump seats. I'm running the

408
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:43.960
backstep by myself down US nineteen at
fifty five sixty miles an hour, you

409
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.119
know, with the white knuckles,
and I'm like, all right, this

410
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:52.360
isn't like, you know, going
down a little street with lyon. We

411
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.719
get this job around the block from
the firehouse and in the middle of the

412
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:02.840
night, officers show for one guy
in the backstep. That's it. The

413
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.719
rescue that's in there is and you
know, the rescue units in Florida or

414
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:14.079
the paramedic and E. M.
T in an ambulance looking rig. So

415
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:15.960
the two of us respond out of
the house around the block and there's a

416
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:21.960
house going it's blowing out the windows. So I get off the backstep.

417
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:30.800
I opened the grab the mask,
and the actual lieutenant, you know,

418
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.880
grabs the line and starts stretching it
to the back. So he goes in

419
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.639
the back door. He gets to
the door and I get there and he

420
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.119
hands me the line. He goes, all right, go ahead, okay.

421
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.440
So I get down and I'm going
in and he just keeps feeding the

422
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.679
line into me. And I've got
to the point where, you know,

423
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.679
I got to the front of the
house and start knocking it down. And

424
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:57.360
when you have a paramedic and an
EMT on those rescues, the EMT gears

425
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.280
up, so he gets in the
back with his gear gears up while he's

426
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:05.639
responding over So he came in and
started doing a search. Steve Pelow,

427
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:09.960
his father was in two truck,
retired out of the city, came down

428
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.960
there. Steve got on the job
and he went in and start doing a

429
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:17.440
search. So I knocked the clean
down. By the time the second engine

430
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.960
got there, you know they would
like doing the wash up. Whatever.

431
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.880
Me and Steve come out and later
on the cops cleaning up the cops.

432
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:30.840
So you know, the guy that
lit his fire, we caught him down

433
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:36.119
the block with an axe in his
hand. Originally he got in the closet

434
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:40.960
because he wanted to kill himself in
the fire. So if anybody went there

435
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.519
to get him, he had the
action was going to get them. It's

436
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:46.840
like, oh, that sounds right. Are you glad you aren't the guy

437
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:51.440
in the ambulance making a search?
Then yeah, he was gl right.

438
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.639
Absolutely. He got too hot and
he puts it out and he ran too

439
00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:06.360
smoky. God, oh, it's
a little unnecessary time blobbing them up.

440
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:10.280
I gotta keep smacking them out,
Dick. I think it's that hat off,

441
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.960
bro, It's like, look at
look at my hat, look at

442
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:21.400
his hat. It's like it's like
this. Yeah, so you look for

443
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.239
the point. Yeah, that's the
good old boys with the point. Hell

444
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:30.159
yeah. He hosted in your Grandma. And I was so into the job

445
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:37.719
that when my lieutenant became a chief
of operations, he would send me and

446
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:39.880
a guy from each of the other
shifts to go do all these trainings.

447
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:45.400
So they sent us to do Roco
training in nineteen eighty three or four,

448
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.000
I think, and then we came
back and taught the rest of the job.

449
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.960
So it was it was a lot
of fun. I mean, I'd

450
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:57.440
asked him to send me every training
he could, so, so you already

451
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.679
trained when he came up. Hirst
tools, sorry, so you you pretty

452
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:06.159
well had qualifications when you came up
to it made it easy to I found

453
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:12.639
Ralph Tiso's though. We'll get to
that though. Yes, has that specialist.

454
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:17.719
The FDICS used to go to the
fireous expos They used to send us

455
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:22.800
to other training. It was great. So and I became an active lieutenant

456
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:29.000
because not many people were interested in
it, and was really much doing paperwork

457
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.880
because everybody kind of knew what they
were doing. You really didn't have to

458
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:37.440
supervise anybody. So I did that, but I wanted to learn more,

459
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.320
so he sent me to whatever he
could, and I think that just helped

460
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:44.760
me down the long run, because
especially a year later, when I knew

461
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:46.920
that I wanted to come up here, I wanted to get as much training

462
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:52.880
as I could. Sure well,
I got the call, you're gonna be

463
00:38:52.960 --> 00:39:01.679
in the class, and swearing was
like July thirteenth, nineteen eighty and gave

464
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:07.119
my two weeks notice, got in
the car, drove up, got a

465
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.920
place to live, and just started
going to the academy. Like you swear,

466
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.719
you off Friday Monday, start the
academy, you know, and back

467
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.679
then you had to go to Livingston
Street go buy your gear. You know,

468
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.119
before you did that, and you
know, before you showed up to

469
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:25.800
the acaby, you were totally by
yourself when you came up here, like

470
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.920
yeah, I mean I still have
friends and everything here. And I lived

471
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:37.440
in a friend's house who I actually
grew up with in Parkchester. We both

472
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:42.960
moved to Williston Park at the same
time, eight houses away from one another.

473
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.079
He was the next building for me, and then we moved eight houses

474
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:50.599
away. And I'm still friends with
him today. I've known this guy since

475
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:54.400
I'm in diapers, and he's got
a place in Long Beach. We got

476
00:39:54.440 --> 00:40:00.079
to Long Beach every summer all the
time, and he's on Arizona. You

477
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:05.400
don't come see me. You didn't
tell me you were there, see now,

478
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:08.800
I will no, you know,
we know, now we know.

479
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:15.199
My father rented the house in sixty
nine and what wait in west End,

480
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:22.119
what's the next block past Arizona?
Is it Pennsylvania. I don't even remember

481
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:28.119
about going down there. All young
kids are down there. Yeah, yeah,

482
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:30.119
is that they rented the house for
the sum because it was the first

483
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.559
time I think my father had a
sum of vacation. So it's like all

484
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.199
going down to Long Beach and we
stayed the whole summer there. It was

485
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:43.639
great. So I love going down
there. He's still down there and we

486
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:49.760
had a great time. But getting
back to the job. I stayed at

487
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:54.320
his house. I almost thought about
going back, and you're like his father

488
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:58.920
was like, you're not going back, You're staying here. You're going to

489
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:00.199
study, you know, the whole
thing. I was like, okay,

490
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:04.719
why you really thought about going back? Huh? I thought about going back

491
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.719
right away. Yeah. I don't
know if it was a homesickness thing.

492
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:14.199
But down there, I mean downs, I can tell you. I mean

493
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.440
everything is new, everything's beautiful.
Everything up here is like three thousand years

494
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.320
old, you know, and it's
just not what I was used to because

495
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.880
I've been down there for ten years
already. Yeah. Right, so you

496
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:29.840
used the newness and the cleanliness of
everything, and then I was like,

497
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:36.679
what am I doing here? He
put me on the straight and narrow and

498
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.079
that was it. You need it, you know, kicking that's it right

499
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:44.920
old school. No, you're not
going anywhere. Yeah, you know,

500
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:50.679
study become a boss and I just
kept reading. So got on the job.

501
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.079
Had a great time at Proby School. I made a lot of friends

502
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:59.519
there, and it was seven weeks, not like today. I mean,

503
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:06.840
I think you know they get sick
days at the Rock now school personal leave

504
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:17.920
days. What don't go through that? We're having fun here little days?

505
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:22.199
What do they have safe space things
too? Like I thought, the feeling

506
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:27.840
a little hurt, have a room
for a safe space. It's in the

507
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:34.159
burn building. I was heard at
work today and they fill out of her

508
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:38.599
feelings report. You are not that
Roofie guy would have walked in hand need

509
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:47.920
to fill out of hurt feelings reports
like the front window. The only guy

510
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:54.119
went to Roofie's office for hurt feelings
report right out the window. I've heard

511
00:42:54.159 --> 00:43:00.320
some stories about some of the new
guys that came on we're having I don't

512
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.360
want to go there to one truck, the seven engine. I'm like,

513
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.039
you know, a friend of mine's
father was driving one of the commissioners and

514
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.559
I was like, hey, Larry, can you do me a favor?

515
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.559
Can you talk to your father?
I want to go to a truck,

516
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.639
but I want to go to Manhattan. I left Florida. I want to

517
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.599
go to the bright lights, the
big city. That's where I want to

518
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:27.159
go. This picture is uh.
We got called to man one of the

519
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:31.440
marine one for a dock fire,
so they sent seven engine. I guess

520
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.119
the engine that normally does it was
out on a run. They sent us

521
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:40.519
Greg Joe Greg Grgiso on the left, Joe Bono, a two eighty three

522
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:46.039
guy in the war years. My
Lieutenant Mike Bobino on the right. He

523
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:51.920
just retired like two years ago with
thirty eight years. Yeah, that's awesome,

524
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.440
man, all that all there he
was in. He retired out of

525
00:43:54.480 --> 00:44:00.920
the battalion, but he he stayed
in that hot He had to be a

526
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.719
volley bro. He's got a hood
then he had to be a volley where

527
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:08.480
you get that hood from Leventown?
Ah indo itally, No, he was

528
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:12.960
a good guy. I always like
working with Mike. Great guy. All

529
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.800
the guys down there were great.
So we you know, I told my

530
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:17.760
friend lat was like, yeah,
I want to go to a truck,

531
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:21.880
but I want to go to Manhattan. So he's like, all right,

532
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:22.760
I'll told my fault to see what
happened. I said, listen, I

533
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:27.079
would love to get twenty six truck
because he was in fifty eight engine.

534
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.360
I love to get twenty six,
you know, just up there. I

535
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.599
want to be up that way as
long as this in Manhattan. So they're

536
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.679
reading out us, you know,
Okay, here's your assignment. So we're

537
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.519
all sitting in your auditorium and I'm
sitting there. I'm like, I don't

538
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:43.960
have to listen for a while because
they're going to do all the engines first.

539
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:54.159
And they're like, uh here it
is, uh yeah, engine three,

540
00:44:54.639 --> 00:45:02.440
Jim Wee Engine three four, Pete
run Foller engined four, al Lets

541
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:06.679
Engine four, Mike Roy engined seven. And I was good to be answer

542
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.159
me. I said what my name? That wasn't really listening. Yeah,

543
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.719
he just said my name and was
like, yeah, so where am I

544
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:17.719
going? He goes he said seven
engine and I'm like, where the hell

545
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:24.280
is that? So Timmy Westhall also
got a sign there, so we talked

546
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:30.079
to each other afterwards. We didn't
really talk much during uh Bro Academy,

547
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:31.840
all right, but after that it's
like, all right, we're going to

548
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:34.920
the same place. So when you
get your assignment, you know, we

549
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.800
drive down there and we put in
and you know, Joe Bonoll, the

550
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:43.800
guy you just saw, was the
officer, and I just moved off from

551
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:50.000
Florida seven weeks. The academy was
grueling seven weeks, gruling seven weeks,

552
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:54.400
especially that one week a peace officer
dream. Oh yeah. But I never

553
00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:00.199
told anybody in the academy that I
was on the job in Florida. I

554
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.280
was there for six years. I
never said a word. I was doing

555
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:07.320
very well on the written tests,
you know, and the only thing that

556
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.320
copy was like the building construction and
things like that, because I didn't know

557
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:14.199
it. I really wasn't used to
it. But I studied and I still

558
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.880
did pretty good. But it was
new to me. But all the other

559
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.920
fire matic stuff that was just like, you know, like second nature to

560
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:28.760
me at that point. So the
guys at my car pool, Tommy Silowski,

561
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:37.760
Chris Piazza, and Rob Dolato Piazza
Piazza was a correction officer in Nassau,

562
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:42.360
and the two other guys of city
cops. So he had a little

563
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.039
bit, you know, don't worry
about it. Don't worry, you know.

564
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:47.960
And then they were like, I
didn't drive my car because I still

565
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:52.920
had Florida plates and they're like,
you better not show up here with out

566
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.920
of state plates, you know,
into the parking lot because we're going to

567
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:00.360
fire you. And you know.
So I'm like, I can't try my

568
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.079
car here. So when I finally
did, I got my New York plates

569
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.800
because we did the you know,
rotation. I did the last the fourth

570
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:13.960
week and by then I got the
plates and they saw a International sticker on

571
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.800
the back of my car and they
were like International, what's that? He

572
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:22.639
goes you put in internationals. It's
like, no, I was on the

573
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:24.639
job in Florida before I could.
You were on the job in Florida and

574
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.840
you told us and they're like,
oh, we got to put a study

575
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:36.719
group together. So they never told
anybody else in the academy. And I

576
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.599
never told anybody when I reported to
seven Engine either. I didn't tell him

577
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:44.960
nothing. But the first thing I
did say to Lieutenant Bono when I got

578
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:45.639
there was like, he's like,
all, are you're going to be in

579
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.440
this group? Let's told you're gonna
be in this group. You can do

580
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.400
twenty fours. You'd be opposite each
other, so you know, there's only

581
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.679
always one probi working. Not too
okay. Oh, by the way,

582
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:02.800
can I get next week off?
Can I do a mutual? And he's

583
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:06.480
like, look at him. I
said, I just moved off from Florida.

584
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:08.960
My best friend's getting married. I'm
in his wedding party, you know,

585
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:13.079
And he's like, oh, yes, Joys fell out the mutual card.

586
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:19.639
One of the Dinosaur chiefs comes over
and you know when he filed it,

587
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.320
and he's like, this guy just
got a proby school's asking for mutual

588
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.760
already. So he explained it to
him, and he's like, all right,

589
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:32.280
all right, you know, but
yeah, I need a mutual yeah

590
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:39.679
off next week. I need the
whole week off. But your buddy,

591
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:43.239
the buddy, your buddy that you
went there with, was like this y

592
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:50.079
yeah right took the pressure right off, right, yes, it did so

593
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.280
and got there never said a word. There was a twenty seven year man

594
00:48:55.199 --> 00:49:00.639
and there already Teddy Penfield, nicest
guy to me, twenty seven years.

595
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:05.800
He's been commuting back and forth in
Florida Park straight to a guy, and

596
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:09.159
he was just like one day,
he goes, when you get the chance.

597
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:14.840
Because once he later found out because
I had some friends come up from

598
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:16.960
Florida who I worked with and wanted
to ride and they're like, oh,

599
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:22.400
how do you do Mike? Oh
we were fine himing together in Florida and

600
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.239
the lieutenant Cadasco because he goes,
you were fining Florida and I'm like,

601
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:29.920
oh yeah, he goes, why
did you say anything? It's because I

602
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.840
didn't want any you know, oh
shit, yeah no, I just like

603
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.840
I just wanted to be treated like, you know, just a new guy

604
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:39.719
period. I didn't want oh like
ya, you're fine, man, oh

605
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.480
you know you wouldn't have to tell
you anything. I don't want any of

606
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.400
that. I just want to be
treated just like a probe. So once

607
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:51.440
they found that out and I talked
to Teddy, He's like, I've been

608
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.400
here twenty seven years. I had
my chance to get out and I blew

609
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:57.280
it. But I love it here. Now. You know, obviously he's

610
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.519
been there twenty seven years. He
goes, Usually they don't anybody out of

611
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:02.280
here for three years. You got
to do three years of Manhattan, especially

612
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:08.639
Low Manhattan before you get out.
So I waited my three years to finally

613
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:13.920
get four years to get out,
and he said, whenever you can do

614
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:16.599
it. But I'm in seven engine. I'm enjoying it. I'm having a

615
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:22.480
good time. The guy's a great
great house. One truck the first Battalion,

616
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:28.199
and then you got to do your
thirty day detail back in those days

617
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:32.559
to an opposite company and usually go
out of the house. But one truck

618
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:37.599
was short on manpower, as was
like the whole first Division. They said,

619
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.119
no, you just crossing the floor. So I was like, oh,

620
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:44.960
okay, that was great. Didn't
have to move anything. And right

621
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:49.599
before my thirty day detail was over, in the truck Captain Tom Pilmer comes

622
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:53.840
over and he goes, uh,
you want to stay in the truck because

623
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:57.880
I want to keep you. And
I was like, okay, Cap,

624
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:00.480
Yeah, I'll sure, I'll stay. I think if a captain's asking you

625
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:04.760
to stay in his company, Like
yeah, no, Cap, I'm going

626
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.559
to go back to Uh right,
yeah you're gonna stay if a captain asks

627
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:13.400
you. You you know you don't
want to burn a bridge, right?

628
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:19.519
So what is that that on Dwayne
and read down there Dwayne Street between Church

629
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:23.400
and Broadway both that fire house.
It is a beautiful firehouse. Oh yeah,

630
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:30.920
that's when it was nineteen o five
or seven something like that firehouse beautiful.

631
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.679
So he's staying in one truck and
there's something about a class A he

632
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:38.400
got that. Yeah. We we
had a high rise job over on Greenwich

633
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:45.280
Street. Pilner was gone by that
time and Captain Mike Bradley was the captain

634
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:52.119
and we had a job in this
new high rise under construction. Like the

635
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.320
whole outside was all done, the
inside was done. Now they're like packing

636
00:51:55.360 --> 00:52:00.679
the stuff with the furniture and get
it ready for occupancy. So we get

637
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:06.400
there and I guess the fire safety
directors out at the front curb and we

638
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.519
pull up first and he's like,
there's a fire on I'm seventeen to eighteenth

639
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:15.000
floor of this thirty something story and
he goes, there are people trapped up

640
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.639
there. So we get in the
service elevator, go up, get out.

641
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:22.280
A couple floors below. Me and
Tommy Incin are the outside team,

642
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:27.800
so the inside team stays with the
captain. They go their way. Me

643
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:32.440
and Tommy inc And go another way
and there's this guy up there. I

644
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:36.519
guess he's one of the maintenance guys
for the building, and he's saying,

645
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:42.719
the guys are trapped in this mechanical
equipment room on this floor, and the

646
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:49.480
door to the mechanical equipment room is
in the floor elevator lobby. There's I

647
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.880
guess, like four elevators there,
so you got to go through that elevator

648
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:59.079
lobby. But that's where they were
stacking all the paletts, boxes, furniture,

649
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.239
everything that would getting rid of,
and I think there was some kind

650
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:07.280
of labor dispute going on, so
somebody torched it and trapped like four people

651
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:13.960
in that room. I mean Tommy
went with the guy down the hole and

652
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:16.800
I could see like the heat and
smoke coming blowing out of this. So

653
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.880
I walked down the hole, took
the left, and I was like,

654
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:22.599
well, this thing is ripping.
There's no like you put your head around

655
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.760
there and like you put your head
on it was ripping. So I came

656
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:30.480
back and the guy told Tommy that
they were behind this one wall. So

657
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:36.320
we started breaching the wall to the
mechanical equipment room and where we were breaching

658
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:44.840
was the plenum return. So it's
double five eighth sheet rock on the metals

659
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:49.159
and you got the duck work there
too, right, double five in sheet

660
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.679
rock, double five eights on the
other side. So we're going, well,

661
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:54.960
like we're hitting the six. It's
like, is this cement like we

662
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:59.360
on the core of the building.
So the guy said, no, this

663
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.639
is sheer. We getting throw it. So we get a hole big enough

664
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:07.239
both sides and we start banging off
the inside and now we see the air

665
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:13.519
vent that's taking the return in and
Tommy Inkin gets in the hole and now

666
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:20.159
he's between basically the wall of the
mechanical equipment room and the studs and he's

667
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:23.119
just in there like this. He's
getting the halligan in there, trying to

668
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:28.880
break force open this vent, because
we pull the vent out, we can

669
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:34.800
get them out. So he wasn't
really able to the hoping he wasn't big

670
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:38.079
enough for the halligan to move around. So he gets the halligan in there,

671
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:42.400
gets like the top, pries it
out a little bit. I reach

672
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:46.079
in, rip the thing down toward
me at the hole, and then all

673
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:52.920
of a sudden, like these heads
come out and the gopers. The heat

674
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:57.079
you could feel behind me, the
unbelievable. Oh yeah, it was unbelievable.

675
00:54:57.199 --> 00:54:59.760
They couldn't get out of that,
I mean, and all we did

676
00:54:59.880 --> 00:55:02.360
was be able to bring the vent
down to the bottom of the hole that

677
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:07.039
we breached, and they like climbed
out and crawled out of that thing to

678
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:09.360
go, I mean, and the
heat coming out behind them, and their

679
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:14.159
shirts would get like their white shirts
were getting ready to light up. It

680
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:17.559
was hot. And you only got
a class E for that. That's what

681
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:22.679
everybody said. But the chiefs like
somebody told you where to go, you

682
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:24.719
know, you like they're getting class
as to put a ladder up. Three

683
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:30.440
buildings down on a floor above somewhere
a fire building, for God's sake,

684
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:36.800
again, four people reaching the wall, two walls actually getting you know,

685
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:42.880
but That was the best part about
that whole thing was when Rescue one got

686
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.960
there, we already got them out. Uh. The engine got the line

687
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:50.159
on the fire and got it all
knocked down, kept it to you know,

688
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:55.119
that elevated lobby, and when we
got downstairs, Lieutenant Jimmy Ellison Senior

689
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:01.679
was down there with rescue in the
lobby. He was the rescue Lieutenant Tommy

690
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:08.880
Baker, FDNY Rescue one Legend and
a couple other very salty rescue guys were

691
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:13.360
down there. And I knew Tommy
Baker because he lived around the block for

692
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:17.320
me Williston Park when I was a
kid, I buffed around the volley house

693
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.119
and Tommy was always great to us, so he knew me, and he

694
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.679
knew I was on the job because
I'd seen him at different jobs, and

695
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:29.440
he you know, we came down
and me and Incoin was standing there and

696
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:32.800
Ellison comes up and with Tommy Baker. He goes, you guys breached that

697
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:37.000
wall. That got those guys out
of there, and we're like yeah,

698
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.559
and they were both like that was
a great fucking job. He goes,

699
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:44.440
you guys would that was great.
It's like, you know, you're getting

700
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:50.440
kudos from Jimmy Ellison and Tommy Baker. I was a class one right there

701
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:53.679
to me, Yeah, right exactly. So the Chief's like, all right,

702
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:57.639
write him up to the captain or
whatever. And we got a un

703
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.119
citation out of it, and me
and Tommy both got class as out of

704
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.639
it. But you know, and
like, oh, you know, sometimes

705
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:07.760
if there's not enough guys that did
one, twos and threes, they go

706
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.480
to the a's so maybe you get
something. And I'm just like whatever,

707
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:15.280
you know, I'm not here to
put ribbons on my chest. You know,

708
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:20.079
I don't mind rescuing people. I
actually enjoy it. So whatever whatever

709
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.559
it was that they said the other
night, right, they got from from

710
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:25.599
a tree, So we get paid
to do that. That's what he said,

711
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:30.320
That's what I'm here for. And
he was cupping up along literally,

712
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:37.480
so while I'm in while I'm in
one truck, you know, we got

713
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:39.039
the first tool. You know,
we got that stuff near the West Side

714
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:43.079
Highway over there. You know,
we got the Brooklyn Bridge, you know,

715
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.280
so we had the tools. So
we got to use it a few

716
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:50.480
times. And I had so much
use of that tool in Floria. The

717
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:55.000
airbags, you know, cribbing grip
poise. I mean, all these different

718
00:57:55.039 --> 00:58:00.760
tools I had use of, and
I think I had three years on the

719
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:07.760
job because I was first grade back
then. I went and actually interviewed with

720
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:15.519
Jack Calderon and Rescue three when they
was still up in Manhattan. So we're

721
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:17.360
like, yo, you got three
years on the job. You know they

722
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:21.880
let you out of the battalion.
Now I went and interviewed with him,

723
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.400
and I had told him, yeah, I'm on the job three years,

724
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:28.760
blah blah. And I said,
but I was on the job in Florida,

725
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:30.480
you know, had all this training, all this other stuff. And

726
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:34.519
he goes where in Florida, Like
I'm telling them all the stuff. He's

727
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.119
like, we're in Florida, And
I was like, Panels Park, and

728
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:40.519
he like paused and he sat back
in his chair and he goes, we

729
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:46.599
sold you a rig. And I'm
like, when I got there, there

730
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:53.639
was an old mac Rearmount aerial sitting
there that was one of the TCUs out

731
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:59.760
that Panel's Park had actually purchased from
the city. How he knew that,

732
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:07.199
Oh remembered that he was the guy
he rigs. He knows there's nothing else.

733
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:12.039
And I was like, as a
matter of fact, you're right.

734
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:15.480
That was brig was City. It
was at of service when I got there,

735
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.360
but they bought it and they were
actually using it for a while,

736
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:22.800
so it didn't pass anymore tests.
So he's like, uh, okay,

737
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:28.000
because I want to get you up
here. It was like two guys ahead

738
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:35.079
of me, Timmy Brown. He
ended up going there Joe Cunningham. Before

739
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:37.719
he done on the job. He
was in the s U COP so he

740
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:43.480
had all the training and that it
was me, So he took Timmy Brown.

741
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:46.960
Joe Cunningham got made, and I'm
like, I'm next on the list.

742
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:54.599
Calderone gets made. Oh no,
this list goes with him. I'm

743
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.360
but by that time I had gone
interview with Tiso. This is like a

744
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:05.840
year later, you know. A
year later, I interview with Tiso and

745
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:08.320
I told him, you know,
I'm on a job on truck blah blah

746
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:12.000
blah, and he's like okay.
He goes, I have another guy.

747
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.239
I think it was Donnie Reagan.
He was bringing up I have another guy

748
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:21.079
who was an EMT bringing him over
from Brooklyn, and I said, oh,

749
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:22.440
you want to know about that,
and he's like, what do you

750
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:24.599
mean. I said, oh,
well, I was on the job of

751
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:30.360
Florida for six years, and you
know, I was an EMT down there.

752
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:32.440
I went to a Roco training,
I did all this others, you

753
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:37.760
know, went down the list and
he's just like, oh okay. So

754
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:39.639
he's sitting back in his chair,
listen to me go through my resume or

755
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:44.800
whatever, and he's like, all
right, i's right now on what's your

756
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:46.960
captain's name? All right, I'm
going to get you up here as soon

757
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:51.280
as I can. So, like
two weeks later I was there, and

758
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:58.280
maybe you should have just led with
that immediately machine, maybe the green machine.

759
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:00.880
You know, I didn't want to, you know, like, hey,

760
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:04.440
I'm a big buff for you know, like, but I mean it

761
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:13.280
was a professional occupation in Florida,
right, Gunzo professional? Ye we're roll

762
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:22.039
heavy down here, you know.
Again. Now got the forty one and

763
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:27.760
I worked with some of the best
guys. They were doing some big work

764
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:30.960
there. Man. That was the
crack years the Yellow Rig. And I

765
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:34.840
was like, oh great, I'm
back to a yellow rig. I left

766
01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:38.679
Florida for red Ones and now I'm
back to, uh, you know,

767
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:45.480
a yellow rig. So I mean
I worked with Tisa got me over there

768
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:51.519
is John Cinderella Danny Sheridan there on
the left, John Buckeye you can barely

769
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:54.320
make out. And Sammy Marquez,
he was one of the senior men over

770
01:01:54.400 --> 01:02:00.639
there and beloved forty one guy.
We had a great I'm down there.

771
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:06.000
We were going to work every tour
multiple times. I could probably count in

772
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:10.199
the five years that I was there, the amount of time you didn't didn't

773
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:16.119
go to a job on both hands
and feet in five years. I mean,

774
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:23.239
it was just ridiculous. And multiples
and multiple jobs in the night and

775
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:30.239
you're on the rate or you're almost
taken up and you can hear the the

776
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:35.079
dispatch it coal and the chief's squad
available. We got another job for them,

777
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:39.199
you know. So it was the
crack user was insane. I was

778
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:42.760
an outpit of the earth there too. It still is the on pit of

779
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.119
the earth over there too. Man, it's a shithole. Oh, it

780
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:52.000
is unbelievable. I went over there
for one hundred and fiftieth annivers I couldn't

781
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:57.039
believe it. It was even bigger
good hole than it was then. You

782
01:02:57.119 --> 01:03:02.079
know, gunshots you lain't in the
racket night couple hours, gunshots every night,

783
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:07.719
you know. It was just the
screaming going on. It was just

784
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.960
ridiculous. It was PAULI sawmon at
that time. Paul, Yeah, Gandiello,

785
01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:17.320
all those guys Rooman Gandiello, Ciderella, Murphy McCardell, John Buck Eyed,

786
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:28.079
Bobby Canabby all right, Kenny mcween, John Hassett. A lot of

787
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:32.079
these guys got made too, you
know, every little ting, Richieing,

788
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:39.119
every little ting, every little ting. Kevin McCardell, John Ciderella, and

789
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:45.760
Eddie Walsh on the left. I
think there was a Halem picture, but

790
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:47.719
yeah, I was gad about you
guys. You guys used to shoot over

791
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:51.880
the bridge right right at the hall. Oh my god. It was unbelieve

792
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:54.320
just we shoot over. I mean
at one point forty one was third due.

793
01:03:55.440 --> 01:04:01.559
And when they reopened them in because
I went there a year after.

794
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:08.280
I didn't go there when they first
opened up. Because when they were first

795
01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:13.320
opening up, Joe Bono from my
lieutenant seven engine the two eighty three guy

796
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:17.159
had Squad four in his quarters during
the war years, and he's like,

797
01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:19.519
hey, you want to go to
a squad? And I was like,

798
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:24.440
what's a squad? Because when I
first gone the job, I never know

799
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:28.320
a squad wasn't never heard of one
even though Squad one was in service.

800
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:34.320
I don't know who they are.
So a year later after they kind of

801
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:40.880
didn't work out. The personalities didn't
work out with the guys that came in

802
01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:45.280
and thought they maybe were going to
be Rescue six when really they were forty

803
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.639
one, and they kind of clashed
with the forty one guys, the original

804
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:56.639
ones that came back, and they
really pissed off the companies around them because

805
01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:00.280
they would show up second do or
third do with tools when they were an

806
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:05.679
end you know, for a second
day box and they go with the home

807
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:13.039
and piss off a lot of guys. So when it finally got the headquarters

808
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:15.519
that it wasn't working out, these
guys, you know, decored, we're

809
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:20.320
out of here. The original forty
one guy stayed and they called Ralph Tisso

810
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:24.199
and said, listen, we need
you to get in there as a captain

811
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:28.599
straight in his place out get it
to where it needs to be. Because

812
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.440
Ralph was a Bronx home guy's whole
career, right, so he knew all

813
01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:35.000
the chiefs, he knew all the
officers. You know, he was like

814
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:38.800
a legend. He was a legend
himself over there. He was in the

815
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:43.239
TCU back in Noble to War years, so he knew all these guys.

816
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:48.119
So he got in there. He
started bringing in his own guys. And

817
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:53.079
a friend of mine from Probary School, Tommy Sailawski, was in sixty one

818
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:57.119
engine heard about it, went over
there and he was there for a couple

819
01:05:57.119 --> 01:05:59.880
of months, and he told me
about it. He's like, the fight

820
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.800
through these ridiculous We're going to so
much work. And that was the one

821
01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:08.599
thing that I was missing downtown right
all to work. I mean, we

822
01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:12.920
had some great work in Chinatown,
you know, great work and some morph

823
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:15.039
buildings, but not like what they
were doing uptown. No, no way,

824
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.639
man, not even close. So
Mike, I say it all the

825
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:23.159
time. I say it all the
time. I got on in May ninety

826
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:25.639
three and I didn't know much about
the job. So I so listen to

827
01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:27.840
the radio. Guys would go up
to the bunks right, and I would

828
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:32.039
stay up the whole night. I
could I know boxes in Harlem because it

829
01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:39.039
would scan right and then you you'd
hear Manhattan forn alarm box eighteen sixty two,

830
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:42.840
fourteen hundred boxes, twelve hundred boxes
right. It was just from one

831
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:47.320
hundred Street up north, and you
would just the amount of jobs at that

832
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:49.840
time, and I got on ninety
three. I can't even imagine what it

833
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:55.400
was like, you know before that
obviously, right, it was all night

834
01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:00.599
like. And I remember saying,
my guy Bobby Canal, his father was

835
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:04.440
uh. He ended up going to
fifty eight Engine in Harlem, and Uh.

836
01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:08.320
I was very close with to the
Mattaprovy school, and we used to

837
01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:10.000
talk all the time, and I'd
be like, Bobby, did you go

838
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:12.960
to another fucking two jobs yesterday?
Like did you go to this job?

839
01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:15.840
You know, we used to talk
all the time, and those guys,

840
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:18.000
you know, those guys were more
on the projects. But I would hear

841
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:21.239
twenty eight truck, thirty truck,
twenty three truck, like it was like

842
01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:26.840
non stop. And I would hear
forty one on your frequency, you know,

843
01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.760
like you would just hear that all
the time, you know, switching

844
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:32.159
over from the Bronx. You know, it was just it was great jobs.

845
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:36.199
Sixteen hundred boxes, right, it
was just all at twelve fourteen sixteen,

846
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:41.920
eighteen hundred boxes. You want to
talk about torture having the uh the

847
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:45.559
twelve buy where you really took it
to like four thirty five o'clock in the

848
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:51.440
morning, having that and having the
radio on in Lower Manhattan hearing those jobs.

849
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:55.000
Oh my god, it was just
not stopped. I can't imagine.

850
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:59.440
It's like, oh, another one, another one, you know, it's

851
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:00.599
just like this. It was like
eating my heart ass. I'm like,

852
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:03.960
I got to know. It was
such a small area, like queens would

853
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:08.760
have jobs, they would have jobs, but sure, it's such a huge

854
01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:12.320
area. You know, those guys
were going to the city. You know,

855
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:15.559
it was right down the block.
I continually to dirty truck would have

856
01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:19.159
three jobs because their area was only
eight square blocks or some ridiculous thing.

857
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:24.720
You know, the population densities,
and it was crazy over there with all

858
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:30.039
types of buildings. You know,
the tenements were the best. So getting

859
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:35.199
over there forty one on your frequency
or it's forty one available, another job

860
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:39.920
for him, you know, going
to Like one day, Joe Gandiello had

861
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:43.439
like gotten hurt and like it was
bleeding stuff. Joe, you want me

862
01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:46.439
to drive? Heuse no get in, you know, it was like no,

863
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:49.760
get in, let's go. He
went to show over school before I

864
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:56.800
did. And that's one of the
best jobs on the job, Like a

865
01:08:56.840 --> 01:09:04.399
squad chafeur because hey, you get
to do it your free safety. When

866
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:08.000
you get it to a job too, it's like make sure that this is

867
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.439
done. Make sure these guys are
doing what they're supposed to do, you

868
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:15.039
know, and then you get to
drive. Driving's fun. Yeah, driving

869
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:17.920
the rig is fun, and you
know you get first, second, do

870
01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:20.199
work, third due you know,
you put your pumping, you know,

871
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:26.159
doing whatever and getting out of the
rig. Second do third do in the

872
01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:29.640
bronx. Oh well, le go, we don't get out of the rig,

873
01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:31.560
sit out, Take it easy,
Brooklyn. Everybody's getting out of the

874
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:34.560
rig. They're running to stretch out. Yeah, it's just a food on

875
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:38.479
the stove. You know, we
wait till we hear you know. It

876
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:44.000
was a little more relaxed back then
Goes forty one headed back to the mainland

877
01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:49.039
to say that a lot. Yes
lieutenants there, Mike, when you were

878
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:55.840
there. The lieutenants were Chris Kane
when he was the Capital of Rescue three,

879
01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:01.199
Charlie Schmidt home run little bit.
Oh yeah, he just got run

880
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:05.159
over by a freaking bus and he's
already back out right. I mean,

881
01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:10.920
he was messed up, messed up, and he's already back out riding his

882
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:18.039
bike and Dennis Moran check. Nineteen
truck guy didn't study till he had twenty

883
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:24.000
years on the job. He got
on odd job I think in sixty eight,

884
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:28.319
but he was a cop for a
couple of years and nineteen truck through

885
01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:35.239
all the war years, so he
as we got older, we could understand

886
01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:41.359
it because you've got guys like me, Cinderella Soman, you know, on

887
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:44.640
the backstep and like you hear a
box coming in. It's like, we

888
01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:46.960
know this is a job. And
he hit a dispatch. You're telling the

889
01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:51.239
chief, yeah, you're getting a
three two and the rescue because we're getting

890
01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:55.199
multiple calls and we're like, come
on, Dennis, let's go. And

891
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:59.600
he was just screen through the window. We'll go when they call us.

892
01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:04.760
Come on, let's go. We'll
go when they call us. And you

893
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:09.239
know, you could feel the rig
jumping up and down from the four of

894
01:11:09.319 --> 01:11:12.920
us in the back going nuts because
he's not telling the show for to go.

895
01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:16.399
But it was great. And now
you back then, you guys didn't

896
01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:18.920
go on phone, but you only
went on the ten seventy five. Oh

897
01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:23.640
no, they would send us on
the phone calls. Yeah, but if

898
01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:27.159
they were further off. Maybe they
waited a little bit, right, but

899
01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:30.039
it eventually turned into when they started
getting phone calls, we started going.

900
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:40.479
But Cinderella, he got there during
the first round when they opened, when

901
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:46.159
you had like Patty Brown was there
as a boss. Clee House. Cleehouse,

902
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:51.600
Yes, Cleehouse. A few of
you know, some legends were in

903
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:57.600
that place. And I think I
even have like a picture of the first

904
01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:00.319
group of guys that went there when
it reopened. H. E. J.

905
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:04.439
Tierney went there. A lot of
these guys were chasing fires end up

906
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:10.760
going there or something. Uh.
Then when they bout out, gave us

907
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.960
the opportunity to get in there.
And like I said, we had such

908
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:18.680
a great group of guys, unbelievable
guys are studying. Like Buckeye was there

909
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:25.399
and became assistant chief of department.
Danny Sheridan, he's a battalion chief and

910
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:28.640
the third battalion. Now there's me
and Dan. I guess we had the

911
01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:32.920
I didn't realize. See what's dare
that far back? He was original seventeen

912
01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:38.920
truck guy Spoky I called them,
Yeah, right, who was calling him

913
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:45.279
that? That was? Whoever?
That? His senior man Wasna, what's

914
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:50.079
that? Tony LaMagna, who's now
the senior man in forty one? No

915
01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:58.560
from seventeen truck Sheridan's bocking. We
just had on too. What the hell

916
01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:09.119
is the dinner tonight? Bro?
He lost lost? Great guy, great

917
01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:11.239
guy. I used to love getting
detailed down there when we were in the

918
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:15.600
fourteenth Battalion, you know, and
the houses around there were great. And

919
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:24.600
then you had the greatest squad hater
of all canceled Squad fifty five truck Fireman

920
01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:30.000
became a captain of the squad two
fifty two. Oh, I wonder who

921
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:35.399
you're gonna say? No, who
is that that was? I know you're

922
01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:40.479
talking about? No, No,
we had him on the show. Oh

923
01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:45.680
tra character, wasn't It wasn't tri
Carrico. Oh no, no, not

924
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:49.199
Rossweiler. No no, no,
Steve's the home run. He wouldn't hate

925
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:53.359
anybody. That guy. No Elson, you're talking about Jimmy Elson? No,

926
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:56.159
no, no, not Elson.
He was the captain of the two

927
01:13:56.239 --> 01:14:00.680
fifty two. Who the heck are
we missing? It was Doring? Uh.

928
01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:08.439
Right after russ Weiler got promoted,
he took his spot into fifty two.

929
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:12.720
Who the hell was that? Rooky? I know he's a chief now

930
01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:15.800
isn't he he retired ross Weller retired, But this guy, he retired as

931
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:20.520
a captain out of Toude fifty two. Yeah, leading up to it,

932
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:27.439
I can't even remember his rank myself. Oh I touched that right, said,

933
01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:32.920
who the hell is it? One
of my guys will text me who

934
01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:38.600
it is? Yeah, that's said, I said, Now, I can't.

935
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:46.960
I saw that that was gonna be
the biggest ballbuster. I could see

936
01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:50.920
that for forty one period. Really, Oh my god, he was the

937
01:14:51.079 --> 01:14:55.920
worst. It's in here, bro, it's in here, Bro. Yeah,

938
01:14:56.439 --> 01:15:01.039
it's in here. Bro. Squad
hater captain squad two fifty two.

939
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:04.479
Isn't that always how it is?
Though, Mike? That was always how

940
01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:10.720
it was. I broke Vanderbill's balls. Mandeville was the same. Although dirty

941
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:17.760
Truck. He never gave up oho
oh Nicolelo Nicolo. Yeah, he never.

942
01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:25.359
He never switched over, he never, he never he stuck those guns.

943
01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:30.479
He never appreciated the guys, he
never. He never gave in like

944
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:32.399
all the other guys. Like he
would tell his probi's coming in twenty years

945
01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:35.960
later. You don't listen to those
guys, they don't, you know,

946
01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:41.199
tru how he loves us. Yeah, no, but dirty truck. He

947
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:45.920
he loves the Fdmy man, he's
just absolutely Our company was gonna take care

948
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:47.119
of it. We don't need anybody. We could take care of it,

949
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.560
right. But you know what,
he walked the walk. He made those

950
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:55.119
guys, you know, train and
do they drilled a lot. Those guys

951
01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:58.479
were great companies, you know,
and like I said, the floor duty

952
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:00.720
was insane. Yeah, a lot
grey companies are running in with over there.

953
01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:03.560
Man. We had all of the
Bronx except the two seven, the

954
01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:08.359
two to zero and the one to
five. And at that time nothing was

955
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:15.960
going on. Nothing. So we
had a job up in like University Avenue

956
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:19.199
area. It was a multiple.
We're on our way up there. I

957
01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:24.039
think we took up from another job. Dennis Moran Check's the boss. We

958
01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.039
pull up and then one of the
chiefs is like, forty one. We

959
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:31.000
got our tools walking up the block. Forty one help whatever engine stretch this

960
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:35.840
line into, you know, the
A wing of this h type. So

961
01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:40.079
we stretched the line in and we're
like, man, I hope it'll get

962
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:42.479
stuck on this line, you know, like this is a ripping job.

963
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:45.640
We want to get up there and
do some fun work. We get to

964
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:48.239
the lobby, They're like, all
right, you could drop it. So

965
01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:51.279
I don't remember who was the outside
team with me, but we go into

966
01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:55.680
the B wing, get up to
the roof. I get up there and

967
01:16:55.800 --> 01:17:00.279
I walk out. And my habit
of every time I got on a roof

968
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.199
was get to the throat. I
always had to go to the throat and

969
01:17:03.279 --> 01:17:06.680
look and see what's going on.
I get to the throat, I see

970
01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:13.279
it chief and the B wing roof
with his aid like looking across the throat,

971
01:17:13.479 --> 01:17:16.359
and there's a guy from ninety two
Engine hanging out the A wing window

972
01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:25.319
in the throat area. The flames
thirty feet blowing out above is you know,

973
01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:30.439
he's on the top floor thirty feet
blowing out. There's like five trench

974
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:34.279
cuts cutting this roof already. And
I get to that. I get to

975
01:17:34.399 --> 01:17:38.479
the throat and I look over and
he's screaming, I'm out of air,

976
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:46.680
I'm out at air. I'm trapped. So I saw Ray Meisenheimer from Rescue

977
01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:51.560
three on the roof. I grabbed
him and said, Ray, we got

978
01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:56.960
a rope rescue, let's go.
Because I saw like five bags of ropes,

979
01:17:57.039 --> 01:17:59.600
I brought the saw up. I
see five bags of ropes slaying on

980
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:01.840
the roof. I just grab one
of them, grabbed him and said let's

981
01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:05.119
go. And I never let go
of him because that happened to me once

982
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:10.520
before when I let over guy and
he kind of disappeared and then came back

983
01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:15.039
with like what. So I grabbed
Ray. We went over one trench cut,

984
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:18.239
went over second trench cut, and
as we're walking over to get ready

985
01:18:18.279 --> 01:18:23.359
to drop the bag, Ray goes, you want to lower me? And

986
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:27.640
if you know Ray Meisenheim, dude, he was the size of a volkswagon.

987
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:31.880
It's like, yeah, right now
me Like, you know, I

988
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:36.079
got the rope, you'll lower me. So he put the ladder belt around

989
01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:41.399
him, he got the bag.
I'm straddling. I'm going over. And

990
01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:47.439
then the reason I always say to
grab somebody is because if you're telling something's

991
01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:54.199
going on, they want to go
look for themselves. M it's a delay

992
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:58.479
in getting to what you gotta do, and you're losing a continuity with somebody

993
01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:00.840
you need to do something with.
That's why I never let go of him.

994
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:03.760
Then I learned that from the first
time that happened to me. So

995
01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:06.800
I grabbed him. We got over
there, I get over the roof,

996
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:12.640
and then I see an officer and
like three or four guys at the throat

997
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:15.920
on the roof from some truck,
and I'm just like, they see him

998
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:20.760
laying on the ground, flames of
blowing out, got no more than ten

999
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:26.000
feet behind him, thirty feet in
the air. I mean, this is

1000
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:29.720
like one of the biggest holes I've
ever seen cutting a roof. And they

1001
01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:33.239
were already back in the back of
the A wing cutting another trench. So

1002
01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:36.560
it's like five trenches on this roof. And I'm looking at these guys that

1003
01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:41.520
I'm straddling going over and I'm like, come on, I get on him.

1004
01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:45.600
So they come running over and jump
on Ray and I start going down

1005
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:49.800
and just I get to the window, the chief is like screaming over.

1006
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:58.520
We got him out because he actually
talked the guy from ninety two along the

1007
01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:02.960
A wing wall to the front window
where the fire escape was, like he

1008
01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:08.760
didn't want to leave that window.
We actually talked him to get out on

1009
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:12.000
the fire escape. So at that
point they had to you know, haul

1010
01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:14.359
me back up, and as soon
as we did, we dropped the rope

1011
01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:16.800
and got out of there, because
I mean that roof was you know,

1012
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:23.840
minutes from collapsing suspect. Yeah,
with five trench cuts in it. Yeah,

1013
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:28.560
right, they had them to control. Yeah, yeah, that's what

1014
01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:32.560
you go with five trench cuts.
But I mean there was such good work

1015
01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:39.000
over there. I mean everywhere.
Forty four truck, thirty truck, nineteen

1016
01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:47.439
truck, seventy two truck, forty
eight truck. I mean, it was

1017
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:53.760
just insane. It was. That's
what I relate to, Like when my

1018
01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:59.760
father was on the job during the
war years, they had their war years.

1019
01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:04.159
This was like Bronx is burning two
point zero because it did really come

1020
01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:08.760
down a lot when you got into
like the early eighties, mid eighties,

1021
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:13.760
it calmed down a lot, but
then when crap came, it went right

1022
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:19.159
back up. And listening to what
my father used to say and guys that

1023
01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:24.840
worked with him or guys in the
war years, this was the closest that

1024
01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:30.119
anybody could ever get to the war
years again without being in the war years,

1025
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:33.079
because I don't think you'll ever see
that ever happen again. The amount

1026
01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:38.600
of work that was being done in
those areas like Harlem, right, the

1027
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:43.560
South Bronx Bedstar. Now the property
is worth three million dollars, so it's

1028
01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:45.840
not gonna learn, you know what
I mean. It's yea, the things

1029
01:21:45.880 --> 01:21:49.079
I remember. I work in details
of forty one, going to work and

1030
01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:56.319
going to das all the time,
all the time. It's a crappy neighborhood.

1031
01:21:56.359 --> 01:21:59.760
I mean, it's sad to say, you know, because there were

1032
01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:01.079
a lot of great people around there, and there's the people that have been

1033
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:06.479
there fifty years. They were all
O Dan though too. I wanted to

1034
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:10.319
say, uh, oh, those
O d all the time you go to

1035
01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:13.039
those Oh we had a lot of
you know, d O WA's over there

1036
01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:15.000
to they're still doing that. I
talked to my friend, he's in forty

1037
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:18.520
one out they're still still doing the
same. I tell you, he'll call

1038
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:21.319
me up. He's done on the
phone with me two seconds and the b

1039
01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:25.000
boop goes off. He's like,
we got fucking MS or something, you

1040
01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:27.239
know. Like I used to have
my brother come up and ride with me.

1041
01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:30.560
My brother in law who was a
captain in Tampa. He would come

1042
01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:32.800
and ride with us, and they
bring a video camera and they'd sit in

1043
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:36.479
the front and they would video going
out to the jobs in Halem or in

1044
01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:40.279
the Bronx, and there were jobs
they're like, oh, look at this

1045
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:42.880
one, you know, look at
this one. Then down by eighty three

1046
01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:45.720
engine fires blowing out the rear.
My brother in law is like climbing fences

1047
01:22:46.119 --> 01:22:48.239
and the cops like what are you
doing? He goes, oh, with

1048
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:53.720
the fire upontment for forty one,
all right, go ahead. It was

1049
01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:56.520
just it was a lot of work. It was it was great. It's

1050
01:22:56.520 --> 01:23:00.000
like, you know what question I
gotta ask you in why did you leave?

1051
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:09.640
I'd always wanted to be in a
rescue ah. And when the Olympics

1052
01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:12.520
came, I was still in forty
one in ninety six, in the summer

1053
01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:17.479
in ninety six, and I went
down with the Fever team because they had

1054
01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:24.199
a stage there for the Olympics.
So we get there on that Friday morning

1055
01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:29.399
and there's the black Hole helicopter in
the background that they took us for a

1056
01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:32.680
ride in, because that's what they
were going to take us down to Atlanta,

1057
01:23:33.199 --> 01:23:39.279
because we were on the outskirts of
Atlanta at some campground and they were

1058
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:45.199
going to take us, you know, via choppers. So we get there

1059
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:53.880
that day the crew were we leaving
me and Freddie Lafermina he was a lieutenant

1060
01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:57.840
then he was a lieutenant in four
at that time, sign up there right

1061
01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:10.880
FLTF two in New York Hip one. Yes that that we relieved said,

1062
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:14.520
listen, they're gonna give you like
a drill in the middle of the night

1063
01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:16.640
to see how fast you guys can
get ready. Won't be the first night

1064
01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:19.199
of the second and probably a couple
of nights in you know, middle of

1065
01:24:19.239 --> 01:24:23.079
the night, they gonna see how
long it takes you. We just got

1066
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:26.119
there a long day, you know. We finally hit the rack in these

1067
01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:31.359
tents in Atlanta in the summer.
So it was a few hours later we

1068
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:35.319
get banging on the tent door down. He comes in, throws on the

1069
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:39.880
lights and said there was a bombing
down at the Olympic Park. Everybody get

1070
01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:43.920
ready, and we're like, all
right, what is this guy kidding me?

1071
01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:45.439
It's the first night. They said
they weren't gonna do it the first

1072
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.159
night. So I get up,
I go to the head and I'm just

1073
01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:51.760
like whatever, And all of a
sudden, I hear the helicopters coming in,

1074
01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:56.199
and I'm like, I don't think
that. Have the helicopters come in?

1075
01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:00.279
So we go to the media tent
and the TV's are on and they're

1076
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:04.760
showing the footage of the bombing that
happened down there. So that Richie Jewel

1077
01:25:04.840 --> 01:25:10.039
guy that they figured was the guy
they did it. Oh well, I

1078
01:25:10.359 --> 01:25:14.319
felt so bad for the guy when
I watched a movie even more so,

1079
01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:16.079
I'm like, oh shit, they're
not kids getting all ready. And the

1080
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:18.760
first team that was getting ready to
go out, they were all out on

1081
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:23.840
the fields getting ready to go on
the helicopters, and the second team and

1082
01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:27.039
you know, we just got there. So we were really like, you

1083
01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:30.199
know, in the bullpen for this, but they wanted us ready anyway because

1084
01:25:30.199 --> 01:25:33.800
we didn't know what happened. And
then during that time, you know,

1085
01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:39.800
you work with all these guys some
rescues squad won because you guys weren't in

1086
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:45.119
service at that point yet. And
Richie Yula comes up to me and goes,

1087
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:48.000
uh, you have a think about
going to a rescue? I said,

1088
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:53.000
as a matter of fact, I
have. He goes, oh,

1089
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:56.359
okay. The next day, Jack
Hawkman comes up to me and he goes,

1090
01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:58.760
you got a minute? And I
was like, sure, Cap,

1091
01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:04.359
what do you need? So I
was like, uh, what's up?

1092
01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:09.479
Cap? It was, uh,
I would you like to come to rescue

1093
01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:14.399
for I was like, oh,
okay, I'd love to come to the

1094
01:26:14.439 --> 01:26:17.239
rescue before cap. You know,
he goes, I've been watching you while

1095
01:26:17.239 --> 01:26:20.520
you're here, and uh, I
like what you're doing. So when we

1096
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:25.199
get back, I'll do the paperwork
and we'll get you over there. So

1097
01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:29.800
great again, a captain's asking you
to go, you say, oh,

1098
01:26:29.880 --> 01:26:34.960
no, Cap, thanks anyway,
captain of a rescue company. You know,

1099
01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:39.119
there's Captain Jack right there, God
rest his soul. One of the

1100
01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:43.760
most great guy. He was,
bro what the best mahoney? Right is

1101
01:26:43.800 --> 01:26:47.439
that? Who is that? Mahoney? Mahoney? More in the back the

1102
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:53.159
sage, the sage, love the
Sage. I've been trying to get him

1103
01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:57.479
on. I've been trying to get
Richie on. Oh I'd love to see

1104
01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:00.399
him on there. He's probably got
some great one eleven stuff. Yeah,

1105
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:05.640
but he asked me to come over, and I went over there just as

1106
01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:11.279
they were moving into two sixty two's
quarters because one thirty six and two eighty

1107
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:15.880
seven we're moving into our quarters with
two ninety two, because they were doing

1108
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:21.720
their floor. So everybody was like, listen this to a storia. I

1109
01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:25.560
mean, why not just put us
on rollsvelt the island for that matter,

1110
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:30.680
we are we ever going to get
to in the borough now? So I

1111
01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:33.239
mean letters were being written to try
to get the chiefs to put us somewhere

1112
01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:36.600
else, and it just didn't happen. And all you hear this is way

1113
01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:41.199
staying Mike. I was at once
seventeen at that time. Do you know

1114
01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:46.279
how many jobs Rescue Fall went to
that's first yew that they took. I

1115
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:49.720
don't know how many first two jobs
they took from me. In fact,

1116
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:53.680
I was maybe just thinking it right
now, not to cut you off,

1117
01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:58.239
but I remember Richie Yula had a
job that I think you guys made like

1118
01:27:58.359 --> 01:28:02.000
three grabs and in one of the
buildings. It seemed like every taught that

1119
01:28:02.119 --> 01:28:06.079
as soon as they got there,
there was jobs all around. Two sixty

1120
01:28:06.119 --> 01:28:11.840
two was first due to everything.
It was absolutely that was the busiest that

1121
01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:16.880
battalion had been in years. Bro. The guys at two sixty two were

1122
01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:20.319
like, what did you guys bring
it with you? And they were seenior

1123
01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:27.279
guys there to sixty two. Yeah, well he was just like what's going

1124
01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:30.880
on here? So we had a
great time with those guys. They they

1125
01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:33.840
thought like, oh, rescues coming, you know, this is gonna be

1126
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:38.640
Nah, I knew it. I
knew it. Yeah, you know these

1127
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:42.960
guys, you know, they get
the higher. Then we got there.

1128
01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:45.960
They're like listen, you know we're
gonna take the watches. And we're like

1129
01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:47.439
no, no, no, no, we're here for a year. We

1130
01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:50.399
got the watch every other month we
do. You know, we're not you

1131
01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:56.039
know, no special favors or whatever. We got it so that they went

1132
01:28:56.319 --> 01:28:59.920
before as a step up company like
that. You know, they the jet

1133
01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:08.439
him in company without a doubt.
So which Foley rest his soul? Mike

1134
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:16.880
Milner, John Eddie, Johnny Gaines, Johnny Gaines. Uh cur and Jimmy

1135
01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:25.680
Jimmy a motto Eddie Curley. Uh
no, Eddie Curley is not there.

1136
01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:31.119
Jimmy motto is a funny guy man. Yeah he was. He was good.

1137
01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:36.279
It's called him blinky. Yeah.
And uh, I guess that's Eddie

1138
01:29:36.319 --> 01:29:43.039
Morrison in the background with me over
there. But yeah, that's Eddie Morrison.

1139
01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:45.640
He ended up still working, right, he's still at the tax No,

1140
01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:48.680
No he retired. Oh I get
him. I'm gonna get Oh.

1141
01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:54.720
He would be a great. I
gotta write the absolutely right down. Don't

1142
01:29:54.720 --> 01:30:00.239
forget guy the best he had to
just get out there because she you within

1143
01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:01.560
the last year a year and a
half. I think, yeah, all

1144
01:30:01.640 --> 01:30:06.640
right, I'll get him. He
was great guy, love working on so

1145
01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:14.680
you know, it was like you
said in that battalion. We we made

1146
01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:18.159
three grabs. It was around Christmas
time. We got to run in the

1147
01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:24.760
middle of the night for it was
in a tenement falling along fire in the

1148
01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:30.000
first floor. So we pull up
and you can see the smoke blowing out

1149
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:34.359
and the flame coming out of the
window. It was the first floor on

1150
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:39.560
the right hand side. I had
the can so forcing the door. I

1151
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:43.119
can't remember who it was with,
but Freddie Laflamina was the boss. We

1152
01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:46.399
get in the apartment, the apartment's
bank down and we get reports of somebody

1153
01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:55.439
hanging out the window on the four
side. So Dan o uh, he

1154
01:30:55.680 --> 01:31:01.920
was working. Dan Hagelin rest his
soul. I say that way too much,

1155
01:31:03.279 --> 01:31:06.039
yeah, because it's just unfortunate that
you have to say that that much.

1156
01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:13.439
Now, he was the chauffeur.
So he took the Harris tool,

1157
01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:18.760
the five foot halligan, the five
foot halligan, and he went around because

1158
01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:23.640
once he heard on the radio,
he ran around over there. So we

1159
01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:27.039
go in and Freddie's like Mike knocked
down as much as you can with the

1160
01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:31.239
can, and Freddie and whoever the
irons man were went to the bedroom where

1161
01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:35.000
the woman and the kid were trapped
because he had iron bars on the windows.

1162
01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:43.600
So just as Freddie and whoever it
was got in there, Dano forced

1163
01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:49.319
the buy in the balls off the
window with the halligan and grabbed the people

1164
01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:54.479
out so knocked down most of it. Two and sixty two came in with

1165
01:31:54.600 --> 01:31:58.640
the with the line, knocked down
the rest of the place, and then

1166
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:02.520
nobody else was in there come out. The chief is like, uh,

1167
01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:05.680
Freddy, I think you guys should
write yourself up for that. I remember

1168
01:32:05.720 --> 01:32:10.159
that. And Freddy's just like,
Natchie, if you know when I got

1169
01:32:10.199 --> 01:32:14.279
to write up to that, you
know, which was didn't have to didn't

1170
01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:19.600
need to be done, which was
good. And Freddie did the right thing,

1171
01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:23.960
you know, like we're stepping on
one seventeen, we're stepping on one

1172
01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:26.960
six sixteen was right there. I
mean they were right there. Yes,

1173
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:29.760
we're stepping on them a lot.
So he's like, nah, no,

1174
01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:31.920
we don't want to do that.
I worked at once Estein when you guys

1175
01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:36.800
were there, man, there was
a lot of animosity. Yeah, I

1176
01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:41.920
tell the story all the time.
I only had one year on or something

1177
01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:45.319
like that. And I was standing
it and They'd drawing back and forth at

1178
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:48.279
each other and I'm standing in there. There was a basement's there, Milne

1179
01:32:48.359 --> 01:32:50.399
is there. He just looks at
me and he goes, hey, Mike

1180
01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:56.600
Milman, nice to meet you.
I'm like, wow, that's cool because

1181
01:32:56.640 --> 01:32:59.239
these guys are just drawing back and
all recue and take in front of the

1182
01:32:59.239 --> 01:33:01.119
fuck ability. Wait, quickly had
to be there too then, right Quickie

1183
01:33:01.199 --> 01:33:03.359
was there? Right? No,
he was gone by that. He was

1184
01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:05.680
gone a ready, Yeah, yeah, he was ready. I got there.

1185
01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:13.880
Yeah, Larry Gray was a boss. That's me, Liam Flaherty and

1186
01:33:14.399 --> 01:33:19.640
Chuck Downey who's on the line pulling
up the the DA who went between two

1187
01:33:19.680 --> 01:33:25.039
buildings. I remember that too,
that was over that way, Yes,

1188
01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:30.960
I remember that. Yep. That
was always was p d there at all

1189
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:34.960
when you were there? He had
already passed right now, Nola, Yeah,

1190
01:33:35.279 --> 01:33:40.479
oh no. I worked with Pete
in forty one. I was working

1191
01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:44.039
in forty one for a couple of
years. Then he went to seventeen truck

1192
01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:47.239
because he interviewed with Corchoran and Corcoran
said, listen, Pete, I'd love

1193
01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:50.039
to have you, but you got
to have some truck time. So he

1194
01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:54.560
went to seventeen truck. Who was
Pete was a boxer, right, and

1195
01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:59.640
I think the captain of seventeen truck
was like the boxing coach for the department.

1196
01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:02.319
So he was like a shoe in
right there. And then I think

1197
01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:05.319
he did a year or so or
two there, and then he went to

1198
01:34:05.439 --> 01:34:14.920
four and unfortunately he remembered that job
too. Yeah, another horrible story.

1199
01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:16.760
Yeah, I was working with Cochran. He was a nice guy. It

1200
01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:23.479
wasn't email like the best, the
best. We were out. Everybody's face

1201
01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:28.560
lights up when when his name.
Absolutely, you couldn't meet a nicer man

1202
01:34:29.319 --> 01:34:32.800
or a gentleman. We had a
job in a story. We we were

1203
01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:38.359
out on the road already. We
got uh we got on the phone long

1204
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:45.119
for a fire in a p D
or a rove some world frame Wolf of

1205
01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:47.640
Steinway, one of those side streets
or something. All the houses I think

1206
01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:54.880
were connected and we were already out, so we were very close. So

1207
01:34:55.840 --> 01:35:00.279
Ralph Williams was driving the rig.
He pulls onto the side street and we

1208
01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:02.600
were out. So we weren't really
dressed, so we heard it come in.

1209
01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:05.359
We saw getting dressed. But the
captain's in the front of the rig

1210
01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:09.720
and he's not dressed. So I
get out of the rig. I'm ready

1211
01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:11.920
to go, and I look back
to see, you know, where he's

1212
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:14.399
going. He looks at me and
he goes, this can be the way

1213
01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:17.640
like that he had. I get
there flameous, you know, if I

1214
01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:24.399
was blowing out the windows, I
had the audions. So I go up

1215
01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:33.600
there and the officer was up there
with the guys on the landing getting ready

1216
01:35:33.640 --> 01:35:40.680
to go into the apartment. The
door was already open, so I passed

1217
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:45.760
them. I go in and I
find the fire. I do a quick

1218
01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:49.880
little looking around. On my way
out. I grabbed the nozzle man my

1219
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:55.840
learning from being in forty one.
Grabbed the nozzle man because the officers dicking

1220
01:35:55.920 --> 01:36:00.079
around with his mask or something on
the landing, so I grabbed it.

1221
01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:03.520
Was it might have been too were
a wedding, it might have been too

1222
01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:08.279
sixty three engine, could have been
a covering. WHOA, I don't know

1223
01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:13.520
who it was. Grab the nozzleman
by his coat. Let's come on,

1224
01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:17.960
let's go. Drag him right in, get him to the spot and the

1225
01:36:18.039 --> 01:36:20.880
back of Man's with him to go. Doorman's at the door feeding it in

1226
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:26.840
and I was like, what are
you waiting for? He's like was the

1227
01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:31.880
officer. I don't think it really? Mad is right now, he's not

1228
01:36:32.039 --> 01:36:35.560
here, he's missing out. Just
open it up. So there was a

1229
01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:40.399
couple of rooms going in there and
knocked it all down. Captain Jack Cobs

1230
01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:43.960
walking up. He looks around and
he goes, okay, you got this.

1231
01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:51.520
He turns around and walks out.
It's just he He never said a

1232
01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:57.479
bad word about anybody, Captain Jack. He was just that way, you

1233
01:36:57.600 --> 01:37:00.199
know, He's like, Okay,
you got it all right. I used

1234
01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:02.479
to see him in his favorite place
all the time, the Grandstand grand Stand,

1235
01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:05.600
alutely going there because I had an
ATM in that place. So I

1236
01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:10.000
go in there to put money in
the ATM. keV sit down, let's

1237
01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:12.479
talk some fires. Had a seat. Did he say that to you?

1238
01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:15.319
I? Yeah, that he was
what a gentleman like he knew I was

1239
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:19.119
in the squad, but just love
to just chat. Did How did he

1240
01:37:19.159 --> 01:37:24.960
pass away? Just that's not too
long. He had cancer, brain cancer.

1241
01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:30.960
Yeah, so he was a fifty
guy and nineteen guy during the war

1242
01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:33.960
years. Oh my god. Right, yeah, you know, and uh

1243
01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:40.760
he was a lieutenant in twenty six
truck after he got made. Did you

1244
01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:44.680
imagine. No, that's why the
guy was walking up there the way when

1245
01:37:44.720 --> 01:37:46.119
you were running up there. He
was walking up there saying all right,

1246
01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:48.399
well yeah, yeah, all right, I'll beat you back at the rig.

1247
01:37:49.079 --> 01:37:55.199
Yeah. Yeah. He was just
he took everything with a grain of

1248
01:37:55.279 --> 01:37:59.640
salt, you know. He wasn't
killing anything. And he was great.

1249
01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:03.359
He was. I mean, it
was like Splaine in forty one was an

1250
01:38:04.039 --> 01:38:08.720
Elaine too. I forgot about Lane
was up there. After Tisa got rescue

1251
01:38:08.760 --> 01:38:12.640
three, Blaine got the spot there
and he was a home run, I

1252
01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:15.720
mean, absolute home run. Tisa
was great. He got the whole company

1253
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:20.279
straightened out, and then when Calderone
got made, he went up there.

1254
01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:25.479
So I had told the Bralph,
I said, listen, you might find

1255
01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:30.159
a file from Calderon up there with
my name in it in case he left

1256
01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:34.319
it behind. But that was before
I even knew about forty one. No,

1257
01:38:34.439 --> 01:38:36.760
no, I don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. So

1258
01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:43.319
it was this one other job I
want to tell you about in Queen's One

1259
01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:45.840
was first two. It was a
Queen Anne. And this thing was gone

1260
01:38:46.279 --> 01:38:50.279
out of the back. But this
thing was ripped first floor, second floor.

1261
01:38:53.239 --> 01:38:59.680
Yeah, was even at this job
because when I was telling him,

1262
01:39:01.239 --> 01:39:04.800
isn't that Coops's best friend? It
is? It is? Yeah, you

1263
01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:09.720
guys are like this, Well,
he loved my brother, So I told

1264
01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:12.920
you. I told you that sty
my brother had had a heart attack.

1265
01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:16.199
So and pulling steelings are Richie.
Guy never said a fucking word to me.

1266
01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:19.560
Ever, he says, how's your
brother, Dylan. I'm like,

1267
01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:24.720
he's gonna be all right, all
right, now go fuck yourself, all

1268
01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:30.920
right, he's the best. He's
grips. We get this job in the

1269
01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:36.279
Queen Ann one thirty eighth first too, was it? Who's with the one

1270
01:39:36.600 --> 01:39:44.640
to eighty nine? To eighty nine? The bucket breaks a hydraulic line as

1271
01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:49.279
it's being raised up to the Queen
Anne. We're walking under. We're getting

1272
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:56.640
like missed, and we're tasting this
like fruity stuff on our and what was

1273
01:39:56.760 --> 01:40:00.159
going on? So we Harry Ford
was working. God, I love that

1274
01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:05.560
guy. He's working. I had
the can of the onions. I don't

1275
01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:09.520
remember which, but the guys were
doing a good job. The guys were

1276
01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:12.880
making the push on the first floor. The next line was on the second

1277
01:40:12.960 --> 01:40:15.960
floor going up, and Harry's right
behind him. You know, I made

1278
01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.960
sure the first line is doing their
thing, and then I come back to

1279
01:40:19.039 --> 01:40:23.560
the stairs. Big four you in
this place. I mean you could have

1280
01:40:23.600 --> 01:40:29.119
put like four companies in. There
was huge happening. The company's going up

1281
01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:33.319
the stairs. And Harry's a cheerleader. Harry was the best cheerleader for engine

1282
01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:36.680
companies. You got a guy,
You're doing a great job. Just a

1283
01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:40.960
little bit more, keep going,
guys, you know, like he kept

1284
01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:45.600
positive, you know, attributes going
to these that's a good, good hit,

1285
01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:48.840
good hit, keep going. And
then next thing, you know,

1286
01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:53.000
a guy from I guess it was
two eighty and arms or maybe the second

1287
01:40:53.079 --> 01:40:56.800
duo engine. I don't know.
This is before I think the two two

1288
01:40:57.199 --> 01:41:01.640
engine to think, you know,
the first up the first whoever it was,

1289
01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:05.239
the nozzle then goes off. My
bell's going off. I gotta go,

1290
01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:10.319
So they move up on the line. Then he comes out next to

1291
01:41:10.399 --> 01:41:13.239
you know, the office. You
know, like Harry's up there behind the

1292
01:41:13.359 --> 01:41:16.640
officer on the line and both theirs
start going off and I'm right behind Harry

1293
01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:20.760
and he's like Mikey, you got
it. So I'm on the nozzle by

1294
01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:24.920
myself at the top of his Queen
Anne and he here on the radio.

1295
01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:30.359
Mike Maya's father was the chief of
this job. I guess he was maybe

1296
01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:34.319
the staff chief for the night.
And he's like, all right, everybody,

1297
01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:38.039
I want everybody out, and everybody
out. I'm like, everybody out.

1298
01:41:38.079 --> 01:41:40.479
I'm like, we got two rooms
up here. Come on. So

1299
01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:44.199
I was like, and the my
mask on, I'm yelling down because you

1300
01:41:44.239 --> 01:41:48.399
can see big open balcony looking down. Because he knew me from the first

1301
01:41:48.479 --> 01:41:53.039
division. I mean, he was
a great guy. Mike Maya's father was

1302
01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:55.720
a home runner. Mike Mayas was
the home run. I love working with

1303
01:41:55.840 --> 01:42:00.119
him and rescue for I'm we all
got chief. We just got two rooms

1304
01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:02.920
here. Give me an engine company
and we can knock this thing down.

1305
01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:08.680
So he's like looking. He comes
up to the top of the stairs,

1306
01:42:09.119 --> 01:42:11.680
comes up there with me, looks
around. He goes, all right,

1307
01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:15.560
I'll get you an engine. So
he goes downstairs, grabs an engine,

1308
01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:17.640
sends him up there and I'm like
hitting one of the rooms. They come

1309
01:42:17.720 --> 01:42:20.560
up and I'm like, all right, you take this, and I'm gonna

1310
01:42:20.560 --> 01:42:24.680
start searching the other room, so
they end up knocking it down, knocking

1311
01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:27.960
it down. We come out and
he's like, you know, the chief's

1312
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:31.239
looking at me like good call,
you know, because only so is the

1313
01:42:31.279 --> 01:42:36.960
outside like it's blowing out the windows. Like creative but great people on this

1314
01:42:38.159 --> 01:42:42.119
job. You know, there's other
chiefs that you just like. We had

1315
01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:45.079
a job where Mike McCauley from one
thirty six, who was in school that

1316
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:48.800
day in nine to eleven, got
killed. I read he details to us

1317
01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:53.119
all the time, and he must
have been in my groups because I work

1318
01:42:53.159 --> 01:42:56.079
with him a lot whenever he took
a detail to us, So we became

1319
01:42:56.159 --> 01:43:00.600
pretty friendly. And we had a
job at this church over in the one

1320
01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:05.399
fifty four area because we took the
aerial of one fifty four to get to

1321
01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:09.159
the roof, so me and him
at the outside. I were up on

1322
01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:14.119
the roof and then I guess the
fourteenth division is like screaming like everybody off

1323
01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:16.840
the roof, and the ladder kind
of moved and it wasn't in the same

1324
01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:23.319
position that we were got off and
kind of to jump off it a little

1325
01:43:23.319 --> 01:43:27.560
bit, and you know, he's
screaming at us up on the roof.

1326
01:43:28.119 --> 01:43:34.199
So Harry Harry Ford's working. Hickey's
the captain, So me and Mike are

1327
01:43:34.319 --> 01:43:40.000
up on the roof and he's like
screaming, and I'm like, and I

1328
01:43:40.079 --> 01:43:42.720
was looking. I'm just like,
I hate people scream on a radio.

1329
01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:44.920
I was gonna say I probably was
at that job, but then I'm like

1330
01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:47.600
that that it's a lot of jobs
where that could be happening, screaming.

1331
01:43:48.439 --> 01:43:51.439
I was at that job with Billy
Quick. Yeah, he was screaming.

1332
01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:57.520
I was at I was at that
job. Off the roof. He's screaming.

1333
01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:00.359
And finally I just like turn away
from because we're kind of toward the

1334
01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:02.760
front of the building and they can
see us. We just wait for the

1335
01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:05.800
aerial to come over to us.
I remember that was that job, coach.

1336
01:44:06.119 --> 01:44:09.720
It was a it was like a
two hundred foot long church, and

1337
01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:13.159
like you could have just went like
the back of the building if anything really

1338
01:44:13.199 --> 01:44:16.159
bad happened. So I kind of
turned my body away and I'm on the

1339
01:44:16.239 --> 01:44:24.880
radiar, like, well, we
can't fly off the roof. Hickey wasn't

1340
01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:28.319
happy with that. When I got
off the roof, he was going he

1341
01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:33.039
was going nuts with for Billy Quick
Quick say, we got two hundred feet

1342
01:44:33.079 --> 01:44:36.439
behind us. Well, right,
I remember that he was going nuts.

1343
01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:42.479
We had Mohica from Rescue one was
the lieutenant that day oh eight at that

1344
01:44:42.600 --> 01:44:45.920
job. Yeah he was. He
was working. Uh it's all the time

1345
01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:49.640
or something in two eighty eighth.
Yeah, Because then we got back to

1346
01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:54.760
the faials and uh, Hickey calmed
down a little bit, and I told

1347
01:44:54.840 --> 01:44:57.479
him, you know, because I
wasn't gonna you know, debate him in

1348
01:44:57.520 --> 01:45:00.680
the street or whatever. I just
you know, he's yelling at Ian McCauley.

1349
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:03.840
She tells you to get off the
roof. And I was like,

1350
01:45:04.199 --> 01:45:09.039
okay, you know, we just
stood there back to the firehouse. He

1351
01:45:09.199 --> 01:45:12.600
calmed down a little bit. I
think maybe Harry on the way back calmed

1352
01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:15.680
them down a little bit. And
uh, he gets back and I said,

1353
01:45:15.920 --> 01:45:18.760
cat, we had like two hundred
feet of roof behind us. If

1354
01:45:18.800 --> 01:45:23.079
anything, you know, we were
right, we had plenty of places to

1355
01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:30.359
go. So and then Harry was
just like, if we can't fly off

1356
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:33.800
the building because Adam is the only
one that was me who said it,

1357
01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:44.359
But I mean it's like the best, Yeah, Harry and his HARRYSMS.

1358
01:45:44.920 --> 01:45:48.800
I mean he came out with winners
man. He was great. And then

1359
01:45:49.720 --> 01:45:56.199
I got made, uh call Captain
Jack because he was battalion chief by then

1360
01:45:56.960 --> 01:46:00.760
called him and I said, when
they wanted to CD thirties or thirty ones,

1361
01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:05.800
I don't remember what it was,
And I called him up. I

1362
01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:10.359
said, I'd really like to go
to the thirteenth division if I can.

1363
01:46:11.119 --> 01:46:14.039
So he goes, all right,
I'll see what I can do. So

1364
01:46:14.199 --> 01:46:16.880
when they told us when we got
our assignments, I got the thirteenth Division

1365
01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:30.960
and the guy from one thirty six
I got made with two Richie I can't

1366
01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:39.279
remember Kirshner, Rich Kirshner. Maybe
I don't know. We got made together.

1367
01:46:39.359 --> 01:46:43.560
We both got the thirteenth and I
there was another guy from Rescue one

1368
01:46:43.640 --> 01:46:45.199
in our class and he got the
fifteenth. And they're like, holl the

1369
01:46:45.840 --> 01:46:50.079
did you guys get these? You
know these divisions? So I got assigned

1370
01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:55.439
to the four to seven and I
did some time in the big House for

1371
01:46:55.560 --> 01:46:59.319
a while. Billy Quick was there, Glenn Harris was there. Glen Harris

1372
01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:03.520
was there when it was my lieutenant
in Rescue four when I got there,

1373
01:47:03.960 --> 01:47:08.399
Wow, when he was there.
Larry Gray was there, Freddy was there,

1374
01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:13.560
and Corkran was there and Larry Gray, greatest guy. I mean,

1375
01:47:14.800 --> 01:47:17.760
we had you guys were probably there
were there. No, you might not

1376
01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:21.319
have been there. You might have
been there were you went one sixteen for

1377
01:47:21.439 --> 01:47:28.520
long? No, okay, we
had a job over a woodside area somewhere

1378
01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:31.760
over that way. We got there. It might have been one sixteen or

1379
01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:35.399
one fifteen. Was pulling this all
the end of the apartment, like down

1380
01:47:35.439 --> 01:47:41.319
the end of the hole. They
pulled her out, and me and Larry

1381
01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:44.800
Gray, I had the audience.
Me and Larry Gray were right there when

1382
01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:46.680
they pulled her out. They had
the line in there, and then he's

1383
01:47:46.720 --> 01:47:50.199
like, all right, check this
door. So I put the helligan in

1384
01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:59.439
the door and popped it. And
the big thick black smoke that came out

1385
01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:02.439
of the door jam when they opened
the door, and like you know,

1386
01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:06.680
but the chain was on the door, and you know what the chain on

1387
01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:13.960
the door means somebody was inside.
So when I popped the door and all

1388
01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:16.479
a thick black smoke comps like puffing
out, me and Larry Gray look at

1389
01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:19.439
each other and our eyes kind of
like lit up, like we both saw

1390
01:48:19.520 --> 01:48:25.199
the chain. It was like uh
oh nasson dang through the door and just

1391
01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:30.640
in just as I got to the
the window of the bed, the door

1392
01:48:30.680 --> 01:48:33.920
of the bedroom opened the door.
Larry Gray was searching. He got the

1393
01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:36.520
other bedroom. I was doing the
living room. Got to the door,

1394
01:48:36.600 --> 01:48:42.600
opened the door. People going out
the window in the buffet. They got

1395
01:48:42.640 --> 01:48:45.359
the bucket up to the window,
got the pace there. Yeah, no,

1396
01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:48.239
it all worked out great. But
if the bucket wasn't there, you

1397
01:48:48.319 --> 01:48:53.520
know, there was two ten forty
five sitting there waiting fours but there was

1398
01:48:53.680 --> 01:48:58.760
you know, no, no,
never caught for noe. Hey, what's

1399
01:48:58.800 --> 01:49:04.199
that over there? Oh? Watch
the door. Yeah yeah, but we

1400
01:49:04.279 --> 01:49:11.600
gotta push on a little foil up
so you get promoted. Vision thirteen the

1401
01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:16.199
first job in the one fifty five
Viper's Nest right. Yes. One of

1402
01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:20.760
the guys I worked with in latter
one was Tommy Ryan, one of the

1403
01:49:20.840 --> 01:49:26.079
funniest guys on the job. Six' five, does a older body work

1404
01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:30.960
on the side. Got the greatest
sense of humor on the job. We

1405
01:49:31.079 --> 01:49:35.920
worked together for four years. Over
there and I'm covering now and I'm in

1406
01:49:36.039 --> 01:49:40.520
one five. He's my chauffeur.
When I walk through the door, I'm

1407
01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:43.279
like, oh, you gotta be
kidding me. It's pretty cool. So

1408
01:49:43.520 --> 01:49:46.720
we go out for BI and the
guys are in the building back when the

1409
01:49:46.840 --> 01:49:53.520
officer could stay in a rig,
and we get a phone on for a

1410
01:49:53.640 --> 01:49:58.560
PD uh, and I'm like,
looking at the address and I'm not too

1411
01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:01.239
familiar with the THESS. So he
looks at he goes and we're sitting there's

1412
01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:04.960
a high school street, a lake, and then past the lake. He's

1413
01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:10.199
like, he looks past me and
goes, the job's over there, and

1414
01:50:10.319 --> 01:50:13.560
you can see smoke. So we
tell the guys that come to the rig

1415
01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:17.159
and we pull around the corner on
I guess rockaway. Pull around. He's

1416
01:50:17.159 --> 01:50:19.399
like, we got a job.
We got a job. I'm not giving

1417
01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:24.960
no ten seventy five until I see
fire come. Hey man, So I

1418
01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:27.520
mean it was the fall, could
have been leaves, it could have been

1419
01:50:27.520 --> 01:50:30.680
you know. I'm like no,
So we go around. We come around

1420
01:50:30.720 --> 01:50:32.800
and see the fire. You know, flame's blowing out the attic and the

1421
01:50:32.920 --> 01:50:39.319
second floor. And now I'll give
the ten seventy five. No chief coming.

1422
01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:42.880
He's somewhere else. He's not coming. He's telling on the radio to

1423
01:50:42.960 --> 01:50:48.760
have the senior officer on the scene
take command, and that happened to be

1424
01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:56.359
spoil in two seventy. So guys
did a great job, right up,

1425
01:50:57.279 --> 01:51:00.600
puts the bucket up, Guys go
in and she comes in. You know,

1426
01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:02.159
we try to get up into the
attic as much as we can to

1427
01:51:02.239 --> 01:51:06.880
people living up there. People start
coming down on their own, and you

1428
01:51:06.960 --> 01:51:10.159
know, the engine gets in there. We followed them in, do a

1429
01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:14.439
search. They did, I mean, awesome job by three or two and

1430
01:51:14.520 --> 01:51:16.319
one fifty five. Awesome. I
mean, I don't even think they needed

1431
01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:20.000
to stretch a second line in the
place. They just h's so fast,

1432
01:51:20.439 --> 01:51:27.560
we're so close. But that's,
you know, coincidence things. You're the

1433
01:51:27.680 --> 01:51:30.439
guy you worked with is your chauffeur
when your first job is a boss.

1434
01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:35.520
So that was the fire over your
shoulder, Yes, yes, exactly.

1435
01:51:36.640 --> 01:51:42.079
And then you know we get some
I'm working one sixty five, get a

1436
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:45.239
basement job, good job going.
I called for the line into the kitchen,

1437
01:51:45.960 --> 01:51:48.079
and all of a suddenly he has
somebody on the radio say no,

1438
01:51:48.159 --> 01:51:51.840
I'll bring it to the side door. And I'm in the like, I

1439
01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:55.319
don't know who's get it, so
maybe it's the chief. I'm like,

1440
01:51:55.359 --> 01:51:59.520
oh great. So I walk outside
and the flame is blowing up the stairs

1441
01:51:59.640 --> 01:52:02.720
now and going into the kitchen.
And I'm just like I told the guy

1442
01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:06.079
in the second get the line into
the kitchen. You know, it's just

1443
01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:11.520
because they're starting to hit it in
from the window now. And it was

1444
01:52:11.600 --> 01:52:14.800
the chauffeur. He goes because I'm
sorry, Lou. I told him to

1445
01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:16.560
bring the line over because I'm standing
out. So I wait for the line

1446
01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:20.279
to go down the stairs now and
you can see the kitchen rolling and I'm

1447
01:52:20.319 --> 01:52:24.399
like, okay, well so now
you're in no man's land. Yeah,

1448
01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:30.840
shit happens. So then nine to
eleven happens. I get the call from

1449
01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:34.319
the four to seven battalion or the
division says, report to Cunningham Park.

1450
01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:39.199
So I'm on the way out there
in the car and I get a call

1451
01:52:39.239 --> 01:52:43.520
from Sock, report to Roosevelt Island. And I'm just about at the exit

1452
01:52:43.600 --> 01:52:46.720
where you would go to go to
Cunningham Park. So I'm like, all

1453
01:52:46.840 --> 01:52:50.439
right, let me just pull in
there. And the chief was my evaluator

1454
01:52:50.479 --> 01:52:55.239
in the four to seven that was
like logging guys in. I said,

1455
01:52:55.319 --> 01:52:58.079
Chief, I got you a call, but I got a call from Sock

1456
01:52:58.159 --> 01:53:01.199
to go to Sock. He goes, good, luck and you know,

1457
01:53:01.399 --> 01:53:06.880
just let me go. So got
over there, Nie Spallaine, Joe Downey,

1458
01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:13.039
Jimmy McQuaid and I don't remember who
was driving the suburban that we were

1459
01:53:13.079 --> 01:53:16.880
down there in, but got down
the area after both of them come down,

1460
01:53:17.199 --> 01:53:20.680
and you know, and you know
what the rest was down there.

1461
01:53:21.079 --> 01:53:28.199
But then we kind of set up
because because John Norman, I guess,

1462
01:53:28.279 --> 01:53:35.159
became the introim chiefs Soccer chief,
the chief of SoC and Ingram was part

1463
01:53:35.199 --> 01:53:43.000
of it too, So we set
up the cash and the communication and the

1464
01:53:43.039 --> 01:53:48.039
command post for sock over on Chambers
Street. So because myself, Freddie and

1465
01:53:48.159 --> 01:53:53.640
Steve Spaull had already been deployed to
you know, the Olympics, this is

1466
01:53:53.720 --> 01:53:57.800
only there was really nothing else going
on between. Then we kind of became

1467
01:53:57.920 --> 01:54:01.920
like the rescue team managers at that
point and like fifteen teams going out,

1468
01:54:02.439 --> 01:54:09.800
you know, the squads, the
rescues, everybody having their thing and you

1469
01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:13.840
know, everything that happened there.
So me though, me and those two

1470
01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:17.319
guys and old the other companies down
there for like the three weeks until the

1471
01:54:18.159 --> 01:54:24.479
one into recovery mode and that's when
I went to sixty one and the whole

1472
01:54:24.520 --> 01:54:30.800
time I was down at the trade
center, the guys from sixty one didn't

1473
01:54:30.840 --> 01:54:39.640
lose anybody. One of the only
pictures I got, I mean in the

1474
01:54:39.720 --> 01:54:45.159
guy from sixty one stepped up for
everything they needed company's backfield, No,

1475
01:54:45.279 --> 01:54:49.399
we got it. They step up
everything. I was so impressed with these

1476
01:54:49.479 --> 01:54:53.760
guys because I knew a couple of
them. I mean, Shan Jenner's was

1477
01:54:53.760 --> 01:54:58.039
the boss. I worked with Genevieves
in sixty one up for one guy,

1478
01:54:58.119 --> 01:55:00.800
yeah, yeah, one Peter and
fall I was in the academy with he

1479
01:55:00.920 --> 01:55:04.159
went the four engine. When I
went to seven engine. We knew each

1480
01:55:04.199 --> 01:55:12.239
other there before he went to Squad
one. Yeah, Happy was the other

1481
01:55:12.319 --> 01:55:15.479
one, but he left right.
And you know, the guys on there

1482
01:55:15.520 --> 01:55:17.800
were great. I knew some of
them because I worked over there a couple

1483
01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:23.760
of times. And you know,
when I was in four so before I

1484
01:55:23.800 --> 01:55:26.399
got made, so I knew some
of the guys. And my cousin there

1485
01:55:26.399 --> 01:55:30.359
at that time, Louis Refrano was
my cousin. Yeah, be cousin was

1486
01:55:30.479 --> 01:55:38.880
absolutely yeah. Yeah. He pulled
a nice trick on me. The water

1487
01:55:39.039 --> 01:55:43.399
quality for drinking in the FI house
was for crap in sixty one, so

1488
01:55:43.760 --> 01:55:45.840
I went whatever I could do to
get the job, to get us like

1489
01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:51.079
bottled water, so they got the
machine in the bottle supplies everything. I

1490
01:55:51.159 --> 01:55:59.319
come in one day and this goldfish
swimming. Louis sitting in there watching me,

1491
01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:01.800
and the guys like because they know
I got this thing in there,

1492
01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:04.600
and they're all watching what my action's
gonna be. And I'm just like,

1493
01:56:04.760 --> 01:56:11.239
oh, okay, that's nice.
Nice, And I was like, you

1494
01:56:11.319 --> 01:56:15.720
know, you're probably gonna have to
clean that out in like water, And

1495
01:56:15.840 --> 01:56:20.199
then they all started cracking up,
you know, and Louie turns around and

1496
01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:24.960
goes, it's still capped. We
slit the bat, you know. But

1497
01:56:25.319 --> 01:56:28.439
they got me, you know,
they got me. But they had Greatsuma,

1498
01:56:28.760 --> 01:56:31.199
but they stepped up for everything.
When I was in sixty one,

1499
01:56:32.199 --> 01:56:34.359
you know, Anthonine eleven, they
asked me where I wanted to go,

1500
01:56:34.600 --> 01:56:38.319
and I said, I want to
go to sixty one. These guys impressed

1501
01:56:38.359 --> 01:56:42.079
me so much, I want to
go there. So I went there and

1502
01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:46.479
they were great bringing in new guys
because we lost guys. We lost Andy

1503
01:56:46.520 --> 01:56:55.680
gon uh Faso, we rescues,
because the rescues don't want to start training

1504
01:56:55.720 --> 01:57:00.880
guys. They want guys on the
train. Ye, so they chief Ta's

1505
01:57:00.960 --> 01:57:09.279
son, uh Steve Joey went So
we lost quite a few guys. So

1506
01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:12.640
now we got to bring in guys, and not a lot of senior guys

1507
01:57:12.720 --> 01:57:15.079
wanted to go, so we bring
guys were like three years on the job

1508
01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:19.520
and they wanted to be there,
and that was the best part. Defan

1509
01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:26.560
came Steve Hardwick, a handful of
the guys that came in that place,

1510
01:57:27.239 --> 01:57:40.680
and I'm sure you guys know Tony
Yeah, was there, absolutely ran It

1511
01:57:40.880 --> 01:57:45.680
was my show for mostly eggs.
I likes yep, it was my chauffeur

1512
01:57:45.239 --> 01:57:47.960
and these guys have stepped up everything. And one day I got a call

1513
01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:53.239
from SoC Hey, listen, we
need guys at P ninety two, which

1514
01:57:53.399 --> 01:57:59.920
was the new OEM because the building
got destroyed, so they set up a

1515
01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:02.920
temporary OEM a P ninety two,
and they were putting the habit teams into

1516
01:58:04.239 --> 01:58:10.560
service. So they had fifteen or
sixteen ESU vans running around with two ESU

1517
01:58:10.680 --> 01:58:15.760
cops as hasmat texs and they're like, well, ass the fight apponement,

1518
01:58:15.840 --> 01:58:20.920
did we need guys on these rigs
right away? So everybody went down as

1519
01:58:21.279 --> 01:58:26.279
everybody was just getting off duty every
twenty four. Anybody want to work in

1520
01:58:26.359 --> 01:58:29.680
these new habiteae things. One guy
running with the issue cops. They all

1521
01:58:29.720 --> 01:58:33.319
stepped up, they all went down. I went down myself, and then

1522
01:58:33.439 --> 01:58:40.680
after a couple of weeks I left
sixty one because Banker came back. You

1523
01:58:40.760 --> 01:58:44.720
know, they took all the captains
out of the companies in the ABC chart

1524
01:58:45.159 --> 01:58:48.880
so they could handle all the arrangements. And even though sixty one didn't lose

1525
01:58:48.920 --> 01:58:56.239
anyone, Banker was best friends with
Chief Cross, so he took two guys

1526
01:59:00.159 --> 01:59:03.560
family. So when he came back, I was bouncing around again and I

1527
01:59:03.680 --> 01:59:08.359
told Ingram, you know, you
need somebody to do this because we had

1528
01:59:08.439 --> 01:59:13.399
no continuity down there. He had
two sogeants, a sign twelve and twelve,

1529
01:59:13.520 --> 01:59:16.439
twelve and twelve and then whatever cop
steering on whatever. We had nobody

1530
01:59:16.680 --> 01:59:19.800
like, nobody know whats going on. So I said, I'll run it

1531
01:59:19.840 --> 01:59:24.359
for you down here, but you
need you know, three officers, and

1532
01:59:24.840 --> 01:59:28.119
you need some of thet because he
was running his brains out doing everything he

1533
01:59:28.239 --> 01:59:31.319
was doing for Hazmat, and you
know, the anthrax thing didn't come at

1534
01:59:31.359 --> 01:59:35.880
the perfect time, not that devil
would be, but he was so busy,

1535
01:59:36.000 --> 01:59:41.479
So I took that over for a
while until the January first, I

1536
01:59:41.600 --> 01:59:46.399
think, and then I got the
spot in sixty one, but probably getting

1537
01:59:46.399 --> 01:59:50.960
the spot in sixty one. Flight
five eighty seven went down and I was

1538
01:59:51.119 --> 01:59:57.199
in has Matt headquarters at the Rock
and we got a phone call a the

1539
01:59:57.279 --> 02:00:00.279
plane just went down in the Rockaways, and we're like, we look out

1540
02:00:00.319 --> 02:00:03.239
the window and you could just see
the calm of black smoke from me and

1541
02:00:04.239 --> 02:00:09.399
I got in the suburban, went
over to rescue school and I said to

1542
02:00:09.520 --> 02:00:12.520
the guys who were instructing, I
said, a plane just went down in

1543
02:00:12.560 --> 02:00:16.800
the Rockaways. Who's going Jerry Murtha, Mickey com Boy, I think it

1544
02:00:16.920 --> 02:00:21.199
was maybe Mike Davis. They all
jumped into suburban with me and we shot

1545
02:00:21.279 --> 02:00:28.359
down there. And that was another
terrible ship show. You know, you

1546
02:00:28.439 --> 02:00:31.199
were down there and you know you're
there and it's like, dude, you're

1547
02:00:31.199 --> 02:00:35.720
standing on somebody, you know.
It was It's like it was May.

1548
02:00:35.920 --> 02:00:39.960
It was like such a blur for
me, like because it happened so right

1549
02:00:40.000 --> 02:00:43.720
and right after nine to eleven,
it was just blur. You're like,

1550
02:00:43.800 --> 02:00:46.000
what is going on? It was
just like I was at the time.

1551
02:00:46.199 --> 02:00:49.600
Yeah, you're getting on. You're
just like body, body, body,

1552
02:00:49.640 --> 02:00:53.359
body, body, poet body.
But you know it's just like, yeah,

1553
02:00:53.920 --> 02:00:57.039
it didn't. I've said this in
the past though, Like you think

1554
02:00:57.119 --> 02:01:00.680
yet the nine to eleven, all
the guys that came in when or working

1555
02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:03.399
and died, right, right,
you think we would learn something. But

1556
02:01:03.520 --> 02:01:11.560
we're driving down there on Crossbad Boulevard
and there's off duty guys fucking flying flying

1557
02:01:11.680 --> 02:01:15.079
past us. Late. It's just
what we do, right. I end

1558
02:01:15.199 --> 02:01:20.680
up passing Rescue three on the van
Wick because they were going down to that

1559
02:01:20.760 --> 02:01:28.439
thing, so I passed it.
And you know then I don't remember his

1560
02:01:28.600 --> 02:01:33.319
name. He was also a chief
of has mad at the time. He

1561
02:01:33.520 --> 02:01:39.920
was a captain that has that won
at one time Pete Stobie. Stubie saw

1562
02:01:40.039 --> 02:01:42.760
me down there and news, come
on, we got to go make sure

1563
02:01:42.880 --> 02:01:45.720
that this jet fuel stuff is running
to the sewers. And you know,

1564
02:01:45.760 --> 02:01:47.960
we gotta get has Been over here
and do whatever we gotta do. So,

1565
02:01:48.720 --> 02:01:51.680
you know, I guess I was
in has Matt at that time,

1566
02:01:51.800 --> 02:01:56.680
you know, But Dad, you
want to throw up in your mouth again?

1567
02:02:00.319 --> 02:02:05.399
So then I get after guy I
like Stuby man, I get back

1568
02:02:05.439 --> 02:02:12.720
to sixty one, and I got
the spot catching some work there, having

1569
02:02:12.760 --> 02:02:15.000
a good time training these new guys
coming in because they want to be there.

1570
02:02:15.239 --> 02:02:17.640
You get to see it in their
faces. They want to be there.

1571
02:02:18.159 --> 02:02:23.880
And they were all good guys and
stepping up everything. And then we

1572
02:02:24.039 --> 02:02:29.920
get a run on October fifth.
Man, I remember this thing. I

1573
02:02:30.039 --> 02:02:35.760
remember this October fIF and two,
the Yankees were running the playoffs. David

1574
02:02:35.840 --> 02:02:42.079
Wells wasn't pitching so good, and
uh well, prior to me going to

1575
02:02:42.159 --> 02:02:45.960
sixty one, he asked me to
do the celebrity softball game thing, because

1576
02:02:46.000 --> 02:02:49.039
you guys grew up together something friends. No, he was best friends with.

1577
02:02:49.119 --> 02:02:53.479
My brother introduced me to him when
I went to Florida because he was

1578
02:02:53.560 --> 02:02:56.880
with the Blue Jays then, so
he introduced me to him. I said,

1579
02:02:56.920 --> 02:02:58.760
yeah, I mean I want to
come to New York. You know,

1580
02:02:59.239 --> 02:03:00.319
get your tickets, go to the
game, we do whatever, we've

1581
02:03:00.319 --> 02:03:05.720
got drinking Okay. So we became
friends from that point on, and I

1582
02:03:05.800 --> 02:03:13.399
still keep in contact with him.
So did the celebrity soball game sixty one.

1583
02:03:14.159 --> 02:03:17.039
Then October fifth, he's pitching,
he's not doing so well. The

1584
02:03:17.119 --> 02:03:20.279
guy's like, come on, well, let's go hit the meal. All

1585
02:03:20.359 --> 02:03:26.000
right, let's go get the meal. So it's like seven o'clock getting the

1586
02:03:26.119 --> 02:03:30.000
rig. We go out and Pathmark
is just kind of around the block from

1587
02:03:30.039 --> 02:03:34.840
the firehouse over there. And right
as we get to the light by Pathmark

1588
02:03:35.359 --> 02:03:43.720
and thet goes off, phone along
fire at the windows in country club you

1589
02:03:45.159 --> 02:03:53.399
somebody welcome up and someone over a
country club and Brian Organos driving me and

1590
02:03:55.199 --> 02:03:56.760
we stuck. You know. I
was like, all right, so I

1591
02:03:56.800 --> 02:04:00.800
still put my bunker pants on because
I'm, you know, going out to

1592
02:04:00.880 --> 02:04:03.760
the store, so I'm not really
dressed, so I still put my pants

1593
02:04:03.800 --> 02:04:08.520
on. And then he's like,
oh, LOUI you gotta look that up.

1594
02:04:09.399 --> 02:04:11.960
All right. I stopped. I
grabbed the map book. I'm looking

1595
02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:14.279
at it. I'm like, oh
no, never mind, I know where

1596
02:04:14.279 --> 02:04:15.479
it is. I know where it
is. Okay, put the map book

1597
02:04:15.479 --> 02:04:17.920
down, get my coat on.
So I snapped, and he goes,

1598
02:04:18.199 --> 02:04:19.920
oh, you gotta look it up
again. I don't know where it is.

1599
02:04:20.680 --> 02:04:27.079
So we're going and I'm looking at
the map and I can't find this

1600
02:04:27.239 --> 02:04:30.960
street to save my life. I
mean, country Club's not that big.

1601
02:04:31.039 --> 02:04:33.199
And even if you start at the
top and made your way all the way

1602
02:04:33.239 --> 02:04:36.199
to the bottom. It only takes
you like a minute. And I'm going

1603
02:04:36.239 --> 02:04:41.279
through it, said, I can't
find this street, so I can tell

1604
02:04:41.439 --> 02:04:45.199
from my peripheral where we are,
and we'll just cross it over the New

1605
02:04:45.239 --> 02:04:51.399
England throughway on country Club Road.
And all of a sudden, like at

1606
02:04:51.439 --> 02:04:59.479
the last second, I see a
rig on my right. And apparently,

1607
02:04:59.479 --> 02:05:02.039
because I don't from this point on, I don't remember. So I've been

1608
02:05:02.199 --> 02:05:06.960
told this is what happened, Brian
Organo tells me. I said, look

1609
02:05:08.039 --> 02:05:13.880
out, and the guy drew,
the officer of fifty truck, Bob Fenty,

1610
02:05:14.520 --> 02:05:17.199
who was behind me on the Captain's
list, figured he's gonna start taking

1611
02:05:17.239 --> 02:05:20.039
guys out, hagging guys out.
He wants to get up there can get

1612
02:05:20.039 --> 02:05:28.239
themotis fast, mother. So all
of a sudden, Bob Fenty's right at

1613
02:05:28.319 --> 02:05:32.199
my face and that was it.
That's all I remember. But I apparently

1614
02:05:32.279 --> 02:05:36.960
went through the windshield. I remember
that man. The really Oh yeah,

1615
02:05:38.239 --> 02:05:42.720
yes, I remember. They said
you were hanging out of hanging out,

1616
02:05:42.800 --> 02:05:45.600
hanging out in the front windshield.
Yes, it was a good thing that

1617
02:05:45.680 --> 02:05:50.880
you stayed there. Well, the
desk on the officers side of the rig,

1618
02:05:51.039 --> 02:05:57.640
I think actually kept me from going
all the way out right because Morgano

1619
02:05:57.760 --> 02:06:00.399
only had the steering wheel, and
when we got hit, he got ejected

1620
02:06:00.439 --> 02:06:03.560
into the street. Yeah, I
remember that. I remember talking to him

1621
02:06:03.720 --> 02:06:08.800
after and now the rig was still
moving because he must have got run over,

1622
02:06:09.680 --> 02:06:12.199
right, Yeah, if he didn't
grab the bumper, he would have

1623
02:06:12.239 --> 02:06:15.239
gotten run over by the rig.
So he grabbed the bumper and it dragged

1624
02:06:15.319 --> 02:06:18.359
him like over the curb, into
the grass and into some bushes, and

1625
02:06:18.560 --> 02:06:25.319
he was under the rig at that
point. So when Tony Ziola and Brad

1626
02:06:25.439 --> 02:06:28.479
Daily from forty one, who was
deep I remember Brad, Yeah, Brad,

1627
02:06:28.640 --> 02:06:30.319
I came out with him. They
couldn't get out of that side of

1628
02:06:30.359 --> 02:06:34.680
the rig because we got hit so
hard it crumpled the doors that they couldn't

1629
02:06:34.680 --> 02:06:39.279
open the door. So Tony told
me. He climbed out of window with

1630
02:06:39.479 --> 02:06:42.279
bread, walked around to the front
of the rig. Didn't need to see

1631
02:06:42.319 --> 02:06:46.359
Brian because he was under the rig, saw me hanging out like face down

1632
02:06:46.600 --> 02:06:50.000
against the grill and kind of pushed
me and hurt. He was like,

1633
02:06:50.479 --> 02:06:55.399
loo, I thought you were fucking
dead. I couldn't believe it, you

1634
02:06:55.479 --> 02:06:58.720
know, Tony what he talks.
Yeah, He's like, I pushed you

1635
02:06:58.760 --> 02:07:01.279
and you made a sound. Thank
god he's not dead. Pushed me back

1636
02:07:01.399 --> 02:07:09.319
up in the sea, and then
I guess they heard rags underneath the rig

1637
02:07:10.399 --> 02:07:14.119
calling, and the two guys behind
me, Victor Venning and truck Patagano,

1638
02:07:14.600 --> 02:07:18.039
they were pinned there. So I
don't know if it was fifty truck that

1639
02:07:18.119 --> 02:07:21.880
cut him out it was Rescue three. But I was in and out of

1640
02:07:21.960 --> 02:07:26.399
content. I mean, I was
unconscious for a while, because it wasn't

1641
02:07:26.520 --> 02:07:31.880
until I think Rescue three showed up
that I maybe got a little conscious,

1642
02:07:32.319 --> 02:07:35.880
a little aware of what was going
on. Maybe not aware, but maybe

1643
02:07:35.920 --> 02:07:40.239
I woke up a little bit because
next thing I see is Scotti Maxwell,

1644
02:07:40.960 --> 02:07:44.479
lieutenant Rescue three, who I worked
with the forty one. I see him

1645
02:07:44.560 --> 02:07:46.840
standing there and he tells me,
you got to make sure you tell the

1646
02:07:46.960 --> 02:07:54.199
story when he gets up, because
the siren is still going. So the

1647
02:07:54.239 --> 02:07:57.760
whole time, by the time Rescue
three got there and whatever was going on,

1648
02:07:58.640 --> 02:08:01.439
the siren of our rig is still
going. And I I'm sitting there

1649
02:08:01.479 --> 02:08:05.720
in the rig telling him, Scottie, we turn this fucking siren off,

1650
02:08:07.960 --> 02:08:09.760
because that's all I could hear at
that point you're saying you can't talk to

1651
02:08:09.800 --> 02:08:13.680
anybody. And then I went back
out and rested, cuts me out of

1652
02:08:13.720 --> 02:08:18.159
the rig and gets me on a
stretcher and like I'm out of it until

1653
02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:20.479
I get back to the hospital.
They take the two guys behind me,

1654
02:08:22.880 --> 02:08:24.720
those guys on the other side of
the right, they were fine, they

1655
02:08:24.720 --> 02:08:31.760
didn't get hurt at all, but
total two rigs. And when fifty truck

1656
02:08:31.840 --> 02:08:37.640
when they hit us, they bounced
off, so we kind of went to

1657
02:08:37.760 --> 02:08:41.359
the left and they went to the
right and there was a car sitting there

1658
02:08:41.640 --> 02:08:48.119
at the red light waiting to go. That was the first car. Fifty

1659
02:08:48.119 --> 02:08:52.239
truck veers off and hits the car
and turns it up sideways. That was

1660
02:08:52.319 --> 02:08:58.840
the second picture that Gonzo showed.
Kind of turned it up sideways, little

1661
02:08:58.920 --> 02:09:03.960
kid in the backseat, woman driver
and she's pregnant. Oh you know,

1662
02:09:05.119 --> 02:09:07.199
it was like the trice fecta of
you know, who could be in the

1663
02:09:07.279 --> 02:09:13.199
car. I mean, the only
thing missing was like a nun woman with

1664
02:09:13.239 --> 02:09:20.760
a little kid in the backseat.
You know. It's like So they transferred

1665
02:09:20.920 --> 02:09:24.680
Rags right to UH from Jacoby.
They transferred right to hospital for special surgery

1666
02:09:26.119 --> 02:09:31.399
because his pelvis was shattered. They
kept me, Victor Vena, and Chuck

1667
02:09:31.439 --> 02:09:37.159
Pettigano in a special intensive care unit
over Jacoby. Chuck went out the next

1668
02:09:37.279 --> 02:09:39.279
day. He said, I'm fine, I'm fine. They said he had

1669
02:09:39.279 --> 02:09:41.760
a cracker. Because I'm fine,
I'm fine. He left. So me

1670
02:09:41.800 --> 02:09:45.920
and Victor were in there. And
do you know Victor, Victor is a

1671
02:09:45.960 --> 02:09:48.119
home run. I mean, he's
Italian as you can get. He makes

1672
02:09:48.640 --> 02:09:56.279
it almost makes Yola look like somebody
from Irish fever. You know, his

1673
02:09:56.520 --> 02:10:00.359
family comes in, His family is
from Italy. They come in and I

1674
02:10:00.600 --> 02:10:03.840
just like, I'm sitting here watching
an episode of the Sopranos. Oh did

1675
02:10:05.000 --> 02:10:07.760
you know the whole thing, like
the whole family's coming in, bringing in

1676
02:10:07.960 --> 02:10:13.479
food, and I swell, it
was like and they were laughing that I

1677
02:10:13.640 --> 02:10:16.800
was kind of, you know,
comparing them to the soprans the Sopranos,

1678
02:10:18.199 --> 02:10:22.560
Thank god they will laughing and to
get insulted by it. But well,

1679
02:10:22.680 --> 02:10:31.520
the extent the ear injuries Mike I
got Dame Bramage. Vertigo was that bleeding

1680
02:10:33.199 --> 02:10:41.359
between the brain and the skull.
Vertigo screwed up two vertebrae in my neck,

1681
02:10:41.640 --> 02:10:48.319
my rotator cuff, my knee,
two vertebrae in my back. Wow,

1682
02:10:48.439 --> 02:10:56.640
so it took it's still taking time
to recover. And that was twenty

1683
02:10:56.119 --> 02:11:03.039
to almost twenty three years ago.
Now almost twenty two, almost twenty three

1684
02:11:03.119 --> 02:11:07.039
years. I think, now whatever
the number is, but you know,

1685
02:11:07.159 --> 02:11:09.319
remember you get a traumatic brain injury. I mean, it's it was a

1686
02:11:09.399 --> 02:11:13.840
long road. It was a very
long road. Thank god my wife was

1687
02:11:13.880 --> 02:11:18.000
around because she like got on top
of everything. You know, got me

1688
02:11:18.199 --> 02:11:24.359
the vestibulous therapist I need because I
couldn't turn my head without a full blown

1689
02:11:24.840 --> 02:11:30.039
vertico episode happening. Couldn't turn my
head. I would take my eyes to

1690
02:11:30.199 --> 02:11:33.920
look over and it would trigger a
vertigo episode. I mean, it was

1691
02:11:33.000 --> 02:11:37.600
so bad. Shed like help me
to the bathroom. You know, it

1692
02:11:37.920 --> 02:11:46.640
was like unbelievable. She got to
it's I haven't had it in a while,

1693
02:11:46.760 --> 02:11:50.039
but it can. It can pop
at any time. And that's why

1694
02:11:50.119 --> 02:11:54.399
when I was at the medical office, doctor Kelly, she's like, Lieutenant,

1695
02:11:54.479 --> 02:11:56.119
you know you're not gonna be able
to go back to work. And

1696
02:11:56.239 --> 02:11:58.479
I was like, what do you
mean. No. I figured I'm going

1697
02:11:58.520 --> 02:12:01.039
to get better, and you know, I'm banged up, but I'll get

1698
02:12:01.079 --> 02:12:05.159
better. And she goes, you
got vertigo, you've got a brain injury,

1699
02:12:05.720 --> 02:12:09.600
your neck injury, back, you
can't go back to full duty.

1700
02:12:09.399 --> 02:12:13.640
And I was like, all right, well, at this point, you

1701
02:12:13.720 --> 02:12:16.239
know, with any overtime that I
had, it's like I kind of at

1702
02:12:16.239 --> 02:12:18.800
this point, you know, I
want to get out because God knows,

1703
02:12:18.800 --> 02:12:22.880
who knew the twelve percent was coming, who knew all the other time was

1704
02:12:22.920 --> 02:12:26.399
coming? Was on the captain's list, you know. So that was kind

1705
02:12:26.439 --> 02:12:31.800
of one of the things. And
I remember working that afterwards, like I

1706
02:12:31.800 --> 02:12:35.319
don't know if we were covering spots, like uh, you know at the

1707
02:12:35.319 --> 02:12:37.520
guys, you're doing stuff like I
don't I don't remember, but I remember

1708
02:12:37.560 --> 02:12:41.159
covering that. Yeah, they were
doing a lot of stuff at the hospital

1709
02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:46.880
right after Jacoby that I went up
to Burke Rehead in my planes for two

1710
02:12:46.920 --> 02:12:50.239
weeks, you know, they were
treating my vestibular, they would treat my

1711
02:12:50.319 --> 02:12:54.560
brain injury, you know, doing
some physical therapy on my neck, in

1712
02:12:54.640 --> 02:12:58.880
my back and my shoulder, and
it was, uh, it was a

1713
02:13:00.119 --> 02:13:03.039
long road, but I'm still here. I was going to say, I

1714
02:13:03.079 --> 02:13:07.239
think I remember talking to Rags too. After like many you know, I

1715
02:13:07.239 --> 02:13:11.399
don't know how long it took him
years right to uh oh absolutely, I

1716
02:13:11.560 --> 02:13:16.239
remember talking to him when he was
finally getting out. I mean, it's

1717
02:13:16.239 --> 02:13:18.319
so like you said, it's so
long ago. But I liked him.

1718
02:13:18.359 --> 02:13:20.439
We had a pretty good you know, I used to hang out with the

1719
02:13:20.479 --> 02:13:22.640
guys from sixty one because I used
to hang out with my cousin a lot.

1720
02:13:22.279 --> 02:13:24.840
I used to hang out with the
Alla and Rags, all the Italian

1721
02:13:24.880 --> 02:13:33.399
stallions, right, Pedagano, all
the guys's Patty, Yeah, I was

1722
02:13:33.439 --> 02:13:37.039
waiting. I'm looking at the chat
another Italian. How many guys did it

1723
02:13:37.079 --> 02:13:41.920
put out? You? Raggs?
Who else? Me and Rags? And

1724
02:13:41.079 --> 02:13:46.239
I think the show for from fifty
truck I think he went out also,

1725
02:13:46.439 --> 02:13:56.159
So he was like face first with
Pedagano and Victor behind me, and I

1726
02:13:56.319 --> 02:14:01.560
had the officer from fifty bucks.
He was just covering there that night.

1727
02:14:01.359 --> 02:14:07.119
But a few years later I took
we took the kids to a rocking horse

1728
02:14:07.199 --> 02:14:11.479
ranch. You know, it's a
hill, it's not a mountain, and

1729
02:14:11.479 --> 02:14:13.000
they want to learn how to ski
go up the little belt. They can

1730
02:14:13.159 --> 02:14:16.840
you know, snowplowd down or whatever. And I'm down at the bottom watching

1731
02:14:16.880 --> 02:14:20.119
them, and you know, I'm
not doing anything physical. I'm sitting still

1732
02:14:20.319 --> 02:14:26.319
nowhere near in shape and doing anything. So I see this guy walking around

1733
02:14:26.399 --> 02:14:30.399
a grungy hat. It was an
fdny hats. I've been walking around with

1734
02:14:30.479 --> 02:14:31.319
both key belts like the head and
I was like, hey, hey,

1735
02:14:31.840 --> 02:14:35.600
you know because I had a shirt
on whatever. Finally, like two days

1736
02:14:35.640 --> 02:14:37.159
into it, was sitting at the
bar. My kids are in the pool.

1737
02:14:37.199 --> 02:14:41.199
I could see him from the bar
and he's there and I was like,

1738
02:14:43.119 --> 02:14:45.760
you in seventy five or thirty three
and he goes, yeah, he

1739
02:14:45.800 --> 02:14:48.760
goes, you don't remember me,
do it? And I'm like, I

1740
02:14:48.840 --> 02:14:52.960
hate my guys. I'm like,
I'm sorry, man, I got a

1741
02:14:52.000 --> 02:14:54.760
bad memory. Now, you know, a little brain injury memory is not

1742
02:14:54.840 --> 02:14:58.079
so good. And if you don't, if you think my verbie's not so

1743
02:14:58.239 --> 02:15:07.760
good. No, I've been writing
the notes down just in case. He's

1744
02:15:07.840 --> 02:15:11.039
like, I was the officer in
fifty truck that night. No way,

1745
02:15:11.600 --> 02:15:16.399
come on. He came to visit
me in the hospital. As it's so

1746
02:15:16.560 --> 02:15:20.960
many guys. I can't remember half
the guys that came. That's crazy,

1747
02:15:20.119 --> 02:15:22.960
man. Yeah, and he was
like, you know, I'm like and

1748
02:15:24.039 --> 02:15:31.720
then by a drink we didn't say
and then saying anything. I thought him

1749
02:15:31.720 --> 02:15:35.359
a little bit. Yeah, he
was. He was great. He became

1750
02:15:35.439 --> 02:15:39.760
the captain, he got promoted.
I got out before I got promoted.

1751
02:15:41.159 --> 02:15:46.239
I was kind of hoping that they
get to my number before you'd study.

1752
02:15:46.399 --> 02:15:50.640
You kind of like reaped the rewards
of your work in But you know,

1753
02:15:50.840 --> 02:15:56.119
that was just what it is.
But I'm here, and I didn't miss

1754
02:15:56.199 --> 02:15:58.880
any of my kids stuff. I
would my wife would bring a chaff and

1755
02:15:58.920 --> 02:16:03.600
me. She'd sit it down for
me on the sideline so I could sit

1756
02:16:03.680 --> 02:16:07.399
there and watch the kids games.
I was at all of their games throughout

1757
02:16:07.439 --> 02:16:11.880
their life. Things happened for a
reason, Mike, exactly. My groups

1758
02:16:11.960 --> 02:16:16.000
were working Father's Day. My groups
will working nine to eleven. I got

1759
02:16:16.079 --> 02:16:22.399
promoted the October before those two.
This was my you know, I dodged

1760
02:16:22.399 --> 02:16:26.239
two bullets. This was my third
bullet. That's it. Maybe was telling

1761
02:16:26.319 --> 02:16:31.000
me something, get out, So
I was telling you, Yeah, So

1762
02:16:31.040 --> 02:16:37.040
go hunt in Iowa, Yeah,
Iowa, Iowa, Idaho, wherever.

1763
02:16:39.280 --> 02:16:43.200
What's the score out there? What's
the score speaking of? You know what

1764
02:16:43.319 --> 02:16:46.159
it is, right? You know
the scores right to one? No,

1765
02:16:46.520 --> 02:16:52.680
the real score. Nobody cares a
bad high alright, you know over,

1766
02:16:52.920 --> 02:17:01.399
wake up, very tired tonight O
putting in dishwashes. Give me a little

1767
02:17:01.440 --> 02:17:07.120
wa you know, I go to
give you. That's what I'm gonna give

1768
02:17:07.200 --> 02:17:18.200
you. You gotta give myself,
all right, you know what it is.

1769
02:17:18.280 --> 02:17:22.559
I think it's that time right now
though, my great shot. But

1770
02:17:22.719 --> 02:17:26.040
it's that time. Hold on,
hold on whole everything you up? Can

1771
02:17:26.120 --> 02:17:28.120
you do it? You're awake?
Sure? Yeh, yeah, yeah,

1772
02:17:28.159 --> 02:17:37.440
yeah. It's time for the old
tip of the of the day, day

1773
02:17:37.879 --> 02:17:46.840
day, take it away the m
Two old old school tips. One for

1774
02:17:46.000 --> 02:17:58.479
Proby's big a sponge absorb everything you
see. The drills, the senior men,

1775
02:17:58.079 --> 02:18:05.840
the officers read when you're not drilling, Learn as much as you can,

1776
02:18:07.440 --> 02:18:13.719
because when you're not drilling or reading, you should have a sponge in

1777
02:18:13.799 --> 02:18:18.319
your hand. That's the one for
the probes. I like that be the

1778
02:18:18.440 --> 02:18:26.479
guy everyone will want to count on. And one for new officers because I

1779
02:18:26.639 --> 02:18:33.840
saw as a fireman in two pretty
busy companies forty one and Rescue four and

1780
02:18:33.920 --> 02:18:39.840
the opportunity being on fire floors with
these guys and seeing how they act.

1781
02:18:41.239 --> 02:18:46.600
The second one is take a deep
breath, stay calm, think about what

1782
02:18:46.680 --> 02:18:54.879
you're gonna say on the radio,
and do not scream. Nobody wants to

1783
02:18:54.959 --> 02:19:01.959
hear a screamer on the radio.
Remember all the guys that you worked with,

1784
02:19:01.360 --> 02:19:05.159
the senior man, the officers,
and all the good things that they

1785
02:19:05.280 --> 02:19:11.319
taught you, what you learned from
them, and how they led you.

1786
02:19:11.440 --> 02:19:18.879
Look out for the man, the
menal lookout for you. A line ain't

1787
02:19:18.959 --> 02:19:24.239
line. There ain't nobody getting getting
onto on the firefloor, right, And

1788
02:19:24.280 --> 02:19:26.399
you just have that little like in
your gut, right, and you're like,

1789
02:19:26.639 --> 02:19:28.920
I'm not really sure what's going on
here? And then you look over

1790
02:19:30.440 --> 02:19:33.280
and then there's your captain who's got
like thirty seven years on the job,

1791
02:19:33.319 --> 02:19:37.520
and he's like, Lewis bringing the
line over here. We're gonna make you

1792
02:19:37.600 --> 02:19:43.120
know. He just changes everything right
when you don't know, like or you're

1793
02:19:43.200 --> 02:19:46.760
you're losing it a little bit to
have somebody like you said that what's his

1794
02:19:46.879 --> 02:19:50.559
name was the best cheerleader, Harry
Ford. Harry Ford, Right. How

1795
02:19:50.639 --> 02:19:54.760
many times have you seen that over
the years where a guy is just behind,

1796
02:19:54.760 --> 02:19:58.159
you know, an officer for an
engine, you know, a probi

1797
02:19:58.319 --> 02:20:01.239
or you know whatever year guy,
two year guy, three years whatever it

1798
02:20:01.360 --> 02:20:05.200
is, five year guy, don't
matter to do that all the time.

1799
02:20:05.280 --> 02:20:07.559
To come on, guys, you're
doing a great job. Get in there,

1800
02:20:07.639 --> 02:20:11.479
let's go. I mean the sage
did a great job. You know,

1801
02:20:11.959 --> 02:20:15.120
he was get on, I'm working
him. I'm working him. He

1802
02:20:15.239 --> 02:20:16.520
was a home run. We got
a back door from Mike Roy. Now

1803
02:20:18.239 --> 02:20:20.920
here we go, there was a
couple of guys. He mentioned we gotta

1804
02:20:20.920 --> 02:20:26.559
get get couple. Yeah, it
might have been two eighty eight, after

1805
02:20:26.600 --> 02:20:31.159
you guys became a squad. He
was one of those fat ass runs over

1806
02:20:31.280 --> 02:20:37.319
in that section of Queens Arms.
And they always live on the top floor.

1807
02:20:37.959 --> 02:20:39.360
Yeah, you never look on the
first law. They always live on

1808
02:20:39.440 --> 02:20:43.120
the top floor. And the net
used to get the cargo net right person

1809
02:20:45.440 --> 02:20:48.399
squads came into service. They set
you guys over Richie EULAs up there.

1810
02:20:48.559 --> 02:20:52.319
All right, you're gonna use that
as just a vance project. We're gonna

1811
02:20:52.319 --> 02:20:54.840
put the four to one over here. We're gonna do this, you guys

1812
02:20:54.920 --> 02:20:56.920
go. I'm standing up there on
the roof and the guy from the squad

1813
02:20:58.120 --> 02:21:03.840
like Mike, I don't know what
the hell you just said. I don't

1814
02:21:03.879 --> 02:21:05.680
worry, come and be able to
take care of it. Got it all

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02:21:05.760 --> 02:21:11.000
set up, and because you know, that was the sage. The sage,

1816
02:21:11.399 --> 02:21:16.079
the sage. I got him rough
health, all right? Have no

1817
02:21:16.200 --> 02:21:18.840
showsday night. So how do you
like them apples? We'll be back on

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02:21:18.959 --> 02:21:22.000
Monday. Dig up a health and
safety tip. I we'll do it monday.

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02:21:22.159 --> 02:21:26.040
We'll do to them. I like
that. You want to do it

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02:21:26.079 --> 02:21:28.639
now? Yes? Where I got
the one? Right? I will be

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02:21:28.760 --> 02:21:31.920
remissed if I didn't do one.
Go ahead, okay, here we go.

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The First Responder Center for Excellence is
a not for profit organization dedicated to

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02:21:35.920 --> 02:21:41.040
protecting their lives and livelihoods of first
responders. Their education and research initiatives aim

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02:21:41.120 --> 02:21:46.719
to bring greater awareness and understanding the
challenges to the health, safety, and

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02:21:46.840 --> 02:21:50.600
well being of firefighters, EMS,
personnel, and other first responders too.

1826
02:21:50.079 --> 02:21:56.319
They are an affiliate of the National
Falling Firefighter Foundation. All right, so

1827
02:21:56.440 --> 02:22:01.680
the old school health and safety tip
tonight is number teen. Healthy lifestyle choices

1828
02:22:01.719 --> 02:22:05.360
are important for firefighters health and fitness. Maintain a healthy diet rich and fruits,

1829
02:22:07.079 --> 02:22:11.879
nuts, vegetables, and whole rains. Exercise regularly to promote overall health

1830
02:22:11.000 --> 02:22:13.920
and fitness. I really got to
tell you how shitty it is to eat

1831
02:22:13.959 --> 02:22:18.120
the firehouse. Make a couple of
smart choices. Drop some salting nuts.

1832
02:22:18.440 --> 02:22:22.159
Yeah, if you know, if
you're onto like tenth jelly, don'ut,

1833
02:22:22.280 --> 02:22:24.879
maybe it's not to put one down, you know, so stop bringing into

1834
02:22:24.959 --> 02:22:33.239
the firehouse. Oh salting leave this
little people. Yeah, yeah, you

1835
02:22:33.319 --> 02:22:37.719
know, maybe have one scoop of
ice cream instead of four. All right,

1836
02:22:39.680 --> 02:22:45.600
what would they say? Don't be
a goon. Don't be as well

1837
02:22:45.680 --> 02:22:50.159
put your plate in half when the
meal gets served to you, because there

1838
02:22:50.200 --> 02:22:54.760
you go. Excellent. All right, what do you got anything else?

1839
02:22:56.959 --> 02:23:01.319
Shout outs? Yeah, Actually,
Susie's husband passed away yesterday. Oh no,

1840
02:23:01.319 --> 02:23:05.680
yeah, so give her all condolence. That was what happen? Was

1841
02:23:05.719 --> 02:23:09.760
his name again? Lee? Lee? I'll say my press some press for

1842
02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:13.600
leak tonight. I'm so so sure
you guys. Yeah all right. Thanks

1843
02:23:13.639 --> 02:23:18.559
for Darren for letting us know double
D double D in the house. Thanks

1844
02:23:18.600 --> 02:23:22.520
to everybody who gave the super chat
tonight. Appreciate it. Thanks, Thanks

1845
02:23:22.600 --> 02:23:26.200
Cheese for saying no to the boat
crews again for yet another year. Thanks

1846
02:23:26.280 --> 02:23:33.520
Cheese to spin on it. Cheese, it just came up again. Mister

1847
02:23:33.680 --> 02:23:37.239
Cologne has a shoutout too for one
of his m whitepd buddies. Oh sorry,

1848
02:23:37.280 --> 02:23:41.639
go ahead, Hey, sorry for
the background noise. I got Game

1849
02:23:41.680 --> 02:23:43.920
seven on actually real quick. Just
wanted to make mention of my power Richie

1850
02:23:43.959 --> 02:23:48.319
Teamsmump. He was a veteran of
the NYPD Bomb Squad of the Emergency Service

1851
02:23:48.440 --> 02:23:50.520
Unit. He died Saturday of nine
to eleven cancer at the age of seventy

1852
02:23:50.559 --> 02:23:54.520
four. He battled it bravely,
spent a lot of time down at the

1853
02:23:54.559 --> 02:23:56.760
pile looking for his friend's. Marine
Corps veterans served in the court from sixty

1854
02:23:56.799 --> 02:24:00.719
eight to seventy one, and I
just wanted to send my adults to his

1855
02:24:00.799 --> 02:24:03.680
family. He was seventy four.
Another one of those heroes, Mike,

1856
02:24:03.840 --> 02:24:07.760
another one of those heroes. Thank
you, guys, appreciate it all right,

1857
02:24:07.399 --> 02:24:11.399
mister Roy, Don't don't go anywhere, don't hang up at the end.

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02:24:11.879 --> 02:24:13.879
Let us go up, we'll sign
off. We'll talk you back in

1859
02:24:13.959 --> 02:24:18.680
the backstage again. Okay, all
right, fellas until all the time,

1860
02:24:18.799 --> 02:24:24.879
great career job. Thank you.
I really appreciate that. Gonzo was But

1861
02:24:26.040 --> 02:24:28.120
it's all right all right here,
brother, I am a little tired,

1862
02:24:28.120 --> 02:24:31.440
but I'm a couple of yawns back
then I'll be going out on the yards.

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02:24:37.559 --> 02:24:39.840
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, all
right, all right, guys,

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02:24:41.680 --> 02:24:46.440
until then, stay long ago and
roll heavy. We'll see it the big

1865
02:24:46.479 --> 02:24:48.799
one. Everybody, thanks again,
Mike, all right, Fellas organize,

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02:24:48.959 --> 02:24:50.319
all right,