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Breaking down the Hall the exes at
OHS. It's Steve Rivera and Jacin Salis.

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This is I on the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey,

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welcome back to an the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve

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Rivera, He's Jacobs Aus. Now
we have breaking news by Jay. This

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Okay, I did a little more
reading up on this because we talked about

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this at the top of the at
the Top show. But PGA Tour players

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are going to be getting an equity
stake in a new for profit entity called

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PGA Tour Enterprises, which I'm presuming
is where a lot of the money is

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gonna get poured into from other golf
tournaments. It's a way for these players

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to remain loyal to the PGA Tour. So players like Tiger Woods, Rory

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McElroy, Justin Thomas, Jordan spe
All, you know, they don't jump

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to the Live Golf Tour. You
know, there's there's for a wobb and

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something in the works to try to
merge the two tours together. It's it's

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still not happening, but it was
reported today that Tiger Woods is getting one

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hundred million dollars. One hundred million
dollars stake in this worry McRoy about fifty

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million dollars, and then Jordan Speeth
and Justin Thomas thirty million dollars each,

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and about thirty six players total will
be sharing this money in the first year,

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and then seven a total of seven
hundred and fifty million dollars. And

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then after that another one hundred million
dollars a year will be awarded two more

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players. So all these players are
getting paid to stay with the PGA Tour

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and not jump over to live.
Don't you think eventually I don't pay attention

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to this, You do that the
two leagues will emerge. Yeah, they

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have to. Well they don't have
to. You know. It's funny,

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Steve, because you know we had
the first main we had the Masters a

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couple of weeks ago, and I
I didn't pay attention at all to the

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live players, And then I noticed
that the reason I didn't pay attention to

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him is because none of them were
in contention. The only one that was

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even close to was bryceon to Shamba, who blew up on Saturday, but

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brooks Kopka, Dustin Johnson, all
those guys. None of those guys were

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ever in contention at the Master.
And my theory on that was they're playing

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in a tournament and a tour where
they play fifty four holes. It's shotguns

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starts, so they play at the
same time the day, you know,

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every day. You know, it's
very relaxed. They're playing shorts, you

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know, and it's a it's a
it's a smaller group of guys. You

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feel like the competitive their competitive edge
is gone. Right. They're not They're

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not out there grinding against this one
player who on this one weekend plays out

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of his butt and wins the tournament. So do you think there's a one

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off or it'll continue. No,
I think I think that's been a progression

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because now these guys are what I
take in most basically the second or third

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year of the Live Tour. I
think that the competitive edge that you have

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to have to win on the PGA
Tour doesn't exist in the Live Golf Tour.

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They're all friends, they're all buddies, they travel together, all these

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things, and they play one less
day. I think you know they're they're

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they're there. They've lost that edge
that comes with the grind of the PGA.

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So so let me be cause I
don't follow it, Like I said,

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do they so when they play on
weekends, whenever weekends they play,

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do they play for a prize?
Yeah? So they still get paid X

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amount of money? Right, and
then they get the prize, right,

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And they're getting money no matter what, They're getting money right, right,

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and they and they have this this
team structure and all this kind of stuff.

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It's just different from what these guys
who are on the PGA tour are

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doing. They make a living.
That's how they make a living, right

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right. It's it's pressure on them. You gotta go, you gotta go

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finishing, you know, the top
of the standings to get some money.

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These guys are getting their money no
matter what. So you know what,

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you know, how hard are they
working? You know, it wasn't a

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shock to me that they didn't contend
to come as guven. Now you're saying

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that, do you think there'll be
a merger? Merger one or it'll fold

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eventually. It'll only fold if the
Saudi Arabians don't care and let it fold,

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which is it's entirely possible. They
may just saying what we're gonna spend

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our money, right, you know, horses order. Yeah, and then

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the guys are all going to want
to come back. But you know,

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you know, there's a lot of
great players coming up that are already better

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than Dustin Johnson. They're already better
than Brooks. Brooks Kepka was awful,

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right, he was terrible. He
finished like fiftieth, you know, and

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he and a lot of people had
him as a favorite to win the tournament

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and he was never in it.
He would, I mean you but it's

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funny because you know, we have
the golf pulling my uh my son who

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he had, Brooks Kepka, And
on Saturday he goes, I haven't seen

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him on TV all week long because
he hadn't been you know, he hadn't

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been there. And so you know, in the end, the PGA Tours

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fel Live Golf is like the U
s f L. Right, that's what

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it is. Yeah, all right, So anyway, so that's uh that

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you know, that's the As mentioned, the uf A women's golf team is

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in the is in the Las Vegas
Regional. The way this works in the

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in NCAA tournament off, there are
six regions. Uh, there's there's twelve

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teams in each region, and the
top five teams qualify for the National Championship

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tournament. Arizona is the three seed
in last in Las Vegas, so they're

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expected to, uh to qualify,
but you know, you've got to go

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out and play. And I'm sure
their goal is to, you know,

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obviously get to the get to the
n C Double A n C Double A

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Championship. And so, uh it's
three three times out of out of four

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years. And they like, they
like the fact that they're in the West,

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so they're very happy to not have
to go very far. So anyways,

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uh so women's golf in the n
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Phoenix Sun's got got blasted a little
bit last night, one five to ninety

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three. They're down to zip to
the timber Wolves. They have They're back

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in Phoenix, not for the next
two games to play on Friday at seven

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thirty and on Sunday at six thirty. Yeah, so Howard hasn't called,

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which doesn't surprise me. One and
two it's just very obvious. And and

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and when we were in in Phoenix
for the final four, and then I

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was there for a function a week
later. All I heard is how this

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not dysfunctional. That was not the
word. It's disjointed. How this team

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was with the with the top players
and they can't afford to mess up.

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They got to be at their best. They're not there. They don't have

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enough depth, and when the Big
three go south, this thing goes south.

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And I guess now maybe throughout the
whole year, KD has just kind

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of shown he's just not into it, or he's he's uh this this disinterested

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whatever it was, which which is
you know, everybody who wants to say,

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a k D and one of the
best players ever physically talented, Yes,

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can you shoot the lights out He's
a seven footer who can shoot from

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anywhere. Yes, but he's always
had the mental piece of it. Uh

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yeah, be a question whether it's
engaging with fans on the right or whatever,

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engaging with the team, being a
being a locker room killer or whatever.

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You know, eighteen points last night, six rebounds to assist, you

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haven't grant you got to do better
twenty five at least, Yeah, you

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got your better booker the same thing. Do you did you forget about the

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basketball or are you gonna go to
basketball? Men's basketball? What they have.

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They got a commitment. Oh yes, no, I'm going there.

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UH men's basketball got a commitment from
the from the kid out of a out

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of uh Oakland on the Oakland is
a team that beat Kentucky Kentucky in in

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in the first round n C double. They turn on trying to get the

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kids. Dad. He's the guy
that's supposed to replace the Johnson Keisha.

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Kind of a big body, kind
of a guy who can score it.

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Yeah, probably, you know,
maybe even a better probably certainly better shoot

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rise than horising player of the year. Yeah, a little smaller, it's

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only six six, but he's really
a shooter. Yeah. And and and

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I mean he's a physical specimen.
I mean you look at his body and

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you go, Okay, that guy, you know, that guy can go

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I'm looking at it. Said that
about he shot too, which of course

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he did. He did hit him. He hit a motor, hit a

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motor about him, just like he
shot Yeah, what's not to like?

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What's not to like? He just
uh, I wish he could have shot

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better? Yeah shot better. Yeah
he shot put the end of the year.

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But yeah, right yeah, Townsend, UH play started one hundred and

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twenty twenty nine games started. All
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points, eight rebounds. You know, I'm gonna put some point. What's

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the day? What's the day today? Twenty fourth, twenty fourth of April,

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ok, apol Right, I'm not
sure. At this time, everyone

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was saying Tommy Lloyd sucks, can't
recruit. What the hell is he doing?

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Uh can come June. Everything.
Everybody was happy, it's April twenty

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fourth. I got this kid.
Uh. There's still a lot of motion

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in the portal, a lot of
people coming and going, still jumping in.

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So I need to be patient with
this. Yeah. Yeah, I

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mean because two years ago, right
when he the year that he got Courtney

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Raimie, Yeah, didn't get those
guys like in June. Yeah right,

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So yeah, I mean there's pretty
late too, Yeah, because because the

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Michigan thing. Yeah, Michigan,
there's there's a ways to go. There's

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there's a long ways to go,
all right. Getting back to your Uh,

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we were mentioning Jordan Morgan. Mal
Kuiper is the one we don't know.

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Mal Kiper's the the uh ESPN ESPN
draft guy that really the first of

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the of the mock draft guys.
He's got Jordan Morgan going to thirty one

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overall to the forty nine ers would
be a nice place for him to land

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because you know, between the rock
and right, Yeah, you want to

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be an early draft pick. But
if you're a nearly draft pick, you

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go to a tein that usually sucks, right, And that's that's kind of

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the drag of it. You know, Jordan Morgan coming out of u of

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a, you go land go land
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be pretty cool. It has to
be pretty fun. So that's where it's

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That's where that's where Matt Kuiper has
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Matt Matt Manildson, No, Kuiper, Malt Kuiper has him has him going.

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Uh. We've been talking about the
rankings for Arizona Baseball that they're they're

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in all the all the rank is
now D one Baseball has Arizona projected to

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host a regional that's in three weeks, the sixteen seed UH to host in

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Tucson. They've got uc Irvine,
San Diego and the dreaded, the dreaded

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Grand Canyon Universal Region. Yeah.
Yeah, but UH as a as a

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number sixteen seats, So kind of
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But that'd be fun. You know, Arizona hasn't host in a while.

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It'd be cool if they if they
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see if they keep things going.
Do they play this weekend? Do they

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play this weekend? Washington State?
I want to know. They just finished

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Washington State, that's what they just
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I think they just played them too. I don't know because in a couple

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of weeks they have the tournament,
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The women go to u c l
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there, then their tournament starts.
But here, I got it right here.

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But baseball is God, this is
horrible TV. This is horrible.

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First of all, they got your
aggies tonight, Steve at five o'clock,

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one of those stas. They're in
Las Cruises to play. Then they go

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to Washington. Well, then they're
at Washington. It's the best thing to

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happened in Alls Cruises today, not
in the Green Chile. Mexic Yeah,

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New Mexico State, expos state.
Yeah, they have a bunch of people

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from here, from Tucson. They
recruit the hed gut of Tucson. Remember

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Gonzales. Uh, he's he came
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School State. How's he downs that
kid doing. He's in triple a.

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He's doing in triple A. But
he's killing it in triple A. Okay,

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because he didn't make the big club. Uh. Well, this New

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Mexico State team isn't very good.
They're seventeen. No, no, got

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one more. Grand Canyon get in
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That's an odd it's an odd schedule
of a game. Well, yeah,

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I mean good the way they compressed
the schedule. So guy, the teams

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have to get games in during the
conference seasons, so they usually have a

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game a non conference game. They
remember, they played a non conference game

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at Stanford a couple of weeks ago
when they were up, when they were

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up playing Cow. So they'll do
that too, all right, Reggie Bush.

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And then finally, I've been saving
this for last, Reggie Bush gets

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his Heisman trophy back. He'll be
in the Heisman House and all that other

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stuff. And I haven't I just
know that he got it back. I

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haven't seen any of the statements or
anything about you know why they did and

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what they did. But Reggie Bush
gets his Heisman Trophy back, and I

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know he's happy to be happy to
get it back. Now that the speed

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limit has been moved to eighty five, everybody who got tickets are okay,

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Yeah, if you got a ticket
for going eighty five, way back,

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way back in the day, you're
off the Yeah, which, which of

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course means for me, is now
that paying players is legal, you can

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get your trophy back and your parents. But he was. He was formerly

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reinstated by the by the Heisman Trust
or whatever you call them. I should

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know them because I do vote.
Uh, but he got his original trophy

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back and then the replica that was
given to USC so they can put it

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back in their their haul of champions
or whatever whatever it is. So Reggie

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Bush with it, taking taking pictures
with his Heisman trophy all over again.

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Good for him. Steve I literally
one of the greatest college football players ever

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ever, A long time in coming
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all accounts, a good guy.
But talk to him. Don't mention them

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on our show, please please,
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was he that senior or his last
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just to watch him. Yeah,
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a game at the Coliseum. Arizona
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Yeah, that Fresno Steak game.
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All right, we're gonna take our
second break on our first break at

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this hour, should say, and
we're gonna be back with Pat Finley,

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Chicago Sun Times beat Ryder covering the
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the phone. We have Patrick Finley
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I'm doing good, boys. How
about you? We're doing well. Are

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you busy on the eve of the
draft or is your work done? Just

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got done a little bit ago.
Tomorrow is one of the longer days of

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the of the sports calendar. If
you're a writer out here on the East

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Coach the draft starts at eight pm. Oh wow. There's literally there's nothing

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that can happen really between when I
wake up at eight pm. So I've

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actually given myself like busy work to
do during the day, just just to

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have something. But yeah, I'm
yeah, I just found our uh A

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long story from my conversation with CATB. Williams today and the sidebar about Rome

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and Dune Day, whether he can
end up in Chicago and now a knock

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on, we're free for me,
all right? So, uh, you

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know, obviously the talk is what
Chicago going to do. Last time you

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were on, you said they're taking
Caleb William. Everybody knows that that's happening

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tomorrow. But after that it gets
kind of nutty. I think Jaydon Bradley,

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Jane Bradley, I still got basketball
in my brain, Daniels, Jade

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and Daniels. Is you know you're
gonna go a second? But then after

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that it gets Does it get squirrely
or is there is there some predictability to

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what happens after number two? I
think it gets a little squirrely. I

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know teams that like Drake May,
and I know teams that don't like Drake

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May. Right now, if I
had to bet, I think he's going

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to go third. But I can
see some variants there. J J.

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McCarthy. I think if somebody's gonna
go get him in the top eight,

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which I think is a bit of
a surprise, I'm still not I don't

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know that he's going to be a
good NFL quarterback. And I say that

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just because you know he hasn't shown
it in college. They didn't really lean

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on him at all. It takes
some imagination to see it, but teams

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are desperate for quarterbacks. Beyond that, I mean to me, if if

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I had the bat, I think
the top eight picks are going to be

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offensive players. Guys like that's that's
gonna be crazy. I think there's a

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chance you see four quarterbacks re receivers
and Notre Dame tackled Joe allt go in

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the top eight and then, uh, that's too bad because the Bears are

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sitting at nine and I'm sure would
like a couple of those guys. So

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total, let me ask you,
if I put your I want you to

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put your scout head on. I'm
sure you kind of tipped all the quarterbacks

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as well, or maybe you haven't. And I'm asking this for a friend

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who I work with. Here,
is Jayden Daniels any good? He is?

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Arizona State teammates burn his stuff when
he well, that's my point.

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I think Jay's burned him in his
head. If Pat, I'm just gonna

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tell you I left him off my
higsman bout I did. I just left

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completely off, and not just because
he's an ace, you guy. I

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just didn't I just didn't think he
did enough. I didn't think he was

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that good. I thought Michael Pennix
was the best quarterback last year. That's

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probably I probably would have voted for
him too. I'll say this now,

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with the with the sanctions on herm
does this mean that none of those games

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counted anyway? And does this mean
that your hatred can go away? No,

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I don't think that I hate him
for everything. To answer your to

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answer your question, I think what
makes Jalen or Jayden interesting is that we're

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in the world now, in the
NFL, where your ability to run for

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your life as a quarterback is a
really important thing to have. Let's look

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at Anthony Richardson last year with the
cult. Anthony Richardson was a bad college

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quarterback, like bad, yeah,
and he winds up going forth because they

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loved this athleticism, because they sat
there and saw that that's the way the

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NFL works now. And you know, before he got hurt, he was

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okay. I think that's some of
the appeals to Daniels. I think I'd

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rather have May as a passer,
but I think Daniel's ability to get out

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and run. Is the reason you're
hearing him talk about is the numbership quarterback.

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Now you can you talk about the
number three pick, and that's the

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Patriots. Are you know, are
they going to stay there and take one

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of these quarterbacks? I would,
if I were them, like, this

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is a really good quarterback class,
and I would argue to you that quarterbacks

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four is better than quarterback one next
year. Right, yeah, yeah,

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So let me ask you real quick, because you cover Chicago and this might

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be too much to ask, but
would you do the same thing that they're

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going to do with Caleb Williams?
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I think Kaylen's the best quarterback in
this draft by a wide margin.

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I think he's the best quarterback from
last year's draft two despite what we saw,

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despite what we saw the Texans guy
do I mean, the reason that

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the Bears made that move last year
to trade the number one pick for Panthers

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was because they were looking ahead and
they liked, you know, all of

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these guys who were coming out in
twenty twenty four more than they liked the

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guys in twenty twenty three. Now, I would say Jay Stroud and made

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a lot of teams look dumb,
including the Bear by going out and being

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great from day one. But no, I think this was the plan,

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and I think the plan worked out
really well. When the Panthers had the

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worst record in football and gifted Caleb
Williams to the Bears, I think what

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the Bears have done this offseason surround
him with help is really important. You

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know, they traded for Keenan Allen, They went and signed DeAndre Swift,

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They went and got Gerald Everett,
the place high end behind Cole Comet.

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You know they've done. You know, they traded first center. You know

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they might draft an offensive player number
nine, you know tomorrow. That's a

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lot of help for for a quarterback
who you know, who's probably gonna need

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a little bit of it. I
mean the Bears, you know, I

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would read I could read off the
list of the receivers the Bears gave Justin

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Fields and his rookie year, and
I'm not sure most of your listeners would

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have heard of them, Like they're
just brutal and and you know, putting

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a better roster around the kid's going
to give him a chance to succeed.

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And that's as you go. No, that's that's that doesn't happen around here

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there yet. Yeah, all right, So going to number four, there's

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some local interest about the Cardinals.
What's the buzz about the Cardinals? What

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do they what did? What's the
expectation that will see? I mean most

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of everybody said they're going to trade
the pick. But what do you think.

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I think if they were smart,
they'd take Marvin Harrison and walk away

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with a smile on their face.
If I wrote this today, I think

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Martin Harrison's got the best chance of
anybody in this draft to be a Hall

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of Famer. You know. I
think he's got the best chance to be

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a five times bow Bowl player.
I think he's really good. And the

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fact that he didn't participate and kind
of you know, you know, the

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NFL does all of these pre draft
things, you know, all off season,

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and Marvin Harrison opted out right away. I think the fact that he

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did is it made him a little
less talked about that he should be.

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He's the best receiver in this class, and you know, he's if you

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know, if there's one thing the
Cardinals need, it's a great receiver.

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You know, I would take him, and I would pray, pray to

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God that he's Larry's cacherl two point
oh, because I think I don't think

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that's an unreal A stick hoped for
him. Yeah, I know you to

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this, Patrick. You've been covering
the team for how long? Oh my

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god, eleven years? Oh that
long? Okay, I was gonna say

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eight or so. How many of
those eleven, how many have been winning

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seasons? Let's put it this way. Because of COVID, the Bear submitted

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the playoff. They played two playoff
games since I started covering them. One

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was during COVID when nobody went to
the game. The other was, I

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don't know what you guys remember this. They were playing the Eagles at home

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in the first round in two thousand
eight, and their kicker Cody Parky,

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who'd been that all year, had
a field goal to win the game at

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the buzzer and joinked it off of
both up right. Yeah, forget that

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game. The only bearst playoff game
I've covered in person ended with one of

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the worst finishes in the history of
the past. A lot of other teams

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playoff games, and those have been
fun, but not so much. Has

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anybody at the paper thought we got
Thinddley here. Maybe he's the problem.

407
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.000
You know, I think they've won. I think they've won four playoff games

408
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.599
in thirty years. So it got
does you good? Good? Good point?

409
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:17.720
Okay, Well they get Caleb Williams. What does it look like next

410
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:22.240
year? I mean is it are
they? Are they another you know,

411
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.559
four or five win season? Can
they get to five hundred? How good

412
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:29.640
can they be? Uh? Coming
out of this draft? This is a

413
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.759
Tigna finished seven and ten last year. I think that, you know,

414
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.720
better than that would be a good
accomplishment for them, somewhere in the eight

415
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.440
or nine win range. I think
the talent on this roster is better.

416
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.279
I think the quarterback play is going
to be better. And yeah, I

417
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.720
mean, you know, you can
talk about playoffs with a strange face.

418
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.440
Enough teams make the playoffs in the
NFL these days that you can say the

419
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.400
word playoffs, and I think it's
realistic. So now that you have covered

420
00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.400
fields a few years or a couple
of years at least, was he just

421
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.200
not ready? Was he bad?
What was the situation? I think it

422
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:07.160
was. I think there was a
lot that went into it. I think

423
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.839
he's a tremendous athlete who because he
was such a good runner, probably wound

424
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.319
up relying too much on it.
I think the Bears surrounded him with really

425
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:22.079
crappy roster for three quarters of his
time in Chicago, and that was not

426
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.079
his fault, but that was kind
of the you know, the cards that

427
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:29.079
he was dealt. You know,
you wonder about you know, he just

428
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.119
he wasn't hitting the open guy as
much as you need to hit the open

429
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:36.759
guy in the NFL, and as
much as we talked about athleticism about how

430
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:38.920
being able to run it's a really
important trade for a quarterback. At the

431
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:41.960
end of the day, it's thirty
seven and you got to complete a pass,

432
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:45.920
like that's the like, that's the
game, right, like like let's

433
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.279
go to the super Bowl. You
know, brock perty, what was it,

434
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:51.799
third and six, third and five. You know, at the end

435
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:53.039
of day, you know, everybody
in the world knows you're throwing. You

436
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:59.079
got to throw, and you got
to complete it, and justin just never

437
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.680
got to that point. I would
love to see him go succeed somewhere else

438
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:06.359
because if he's somebody who takes it
seriously, he is you know, you

439
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.400
kind of know when you and you
guys know this from all your ears covering

440
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:15.319
sports, you kind of know the
people who who work hard and who kind

441
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.160
of deserve good things, and you
know the people who are lazy or who

442
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.559
don't care or who you know,
stay out all night. Justin's not that.

443
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:25.880
Justin as somebody who's you know,
this is really important to him and

444
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.000
going to the Steelers, I think
a really good up. K. We're

445
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.599
talking to Patrick Fine in Chicago Sun
Times, writer covering the Bears in the

446
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:37.079
NFL okay an intriguing pick at number
five where the Chargers are. Do you

447
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:42.359
see what would Jim Harbott take his
quarterback? I don't think so. I

448
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.079
mean, you know, there,
I guess there's a world where they could

449
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.799
trade Herbert, but the amount of
debt money they'd have to take to do

450
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:53.440
it, I think makes it a
bad idea, like like just a non

451
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:59.480
starter. Yeah, my justice,
they're going to trade back and maybe to

452
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.480
the Viking. Let the Vikings come
take JJ McCartney and then you know,

453
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.000
if that gives him what eleven and
twenty three, you know, then he

454
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.039
can take a right tackle of eleven
and that'd be great to put next to

455
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:17.200
Rashaun Slater their left tackle over the
next ten years. And then you know,

456
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.759
go get a receiver late maybe you
know, maybe Brian Thomas or somebody

457
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.920
of that kind of falls there.
I think they're going to play smash football,

458
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:29.799
and you know, I don't know
that taking you know, you know,

459
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.880
Roma Dunda five really fits with what
they're trying to with the message.

460
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.359
They're trying to say, I'm curious, did you do a mock draft?

461
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.680
Yeah? I did too many mock
drafts. Yes, it is so my

462
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.880
mock for most of the off seasons. That has been a June Day to

463
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.279
the Bears. I talked to a
dunse today and how cool is this?

464
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.720
So Cat Williams is so sure that
he's joined the Bears that he actually had

465
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:02.279
a throwing session last week with Dj
Moore and Keenan al like his two Bears

466
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:07.160
receivers in Los Angeles, and they
decided to actually invite Rome at Tuesday to

467
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:12.720
come do it with. So,
you know, you can read the tea

468
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.400
leaves there and think that there might
be a sting. So I talked to

469
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.160
Tuesday about that, and you talked
about how cool would be to be in

470
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.799
that room with you know, he
thinks Keenan Allen's the Hall of Famer.

471
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.519
He thinks Dj Moore is really good, and he thinks so that the three

472
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.319
of them are on the field,
nobody's going to get double LEAs to me,

473
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.920
that makes sense. I fear that
a dude. I fear that a

474
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:34.200
duke. They won't be available,
and if he's not, I could see

475
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.920
the Bears moving back a couple of
thoughts. They only have four draft picks

476
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.839
this year. That's the fewest picks
of any team in the league. So

477
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.960
you know they could always use a
little more. I'll give you this fun

478
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:50.440
fact real quick. The Bears traded
more twenty twenty four draft picks, then

479
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.400
they have twenty to twenty four downs. If that makes sense. Well,

480
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:57.640
okay, So what I wanted to
ask you was, was there a surprise

481
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.440
person or player you put in your
first round that you thought, maybe,

482
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.519
okay, this might work somewhere that
none of us would be kind of a

483
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:13.359
what would be surprised about. I
don't know that's surprised. The Maconte kid,

484
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:17.079
the receiver from Georgia. I really
like him to the Chiefs at thirty

485
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:21.480
two. That's nominally a first round
pick, but you know, the chief

486
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:27.920
needed a receiver even before Rashid Rice
decided to go play speed racer. Yeah,

487
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.920
and my guest is there's going to
be some sort of punishment coming.

488
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:36.839
So you know, even the seventh
receiver taking in the draft I think makes

489
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.720
a ton of sense for the chief. All right, so what do you?

490
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.079
How do you cover this? What
do you? What do you?

491
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:46.519
What will you do tomorrow? So
you obviously got to get the Caleb Williams,

492
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.799
But how do you cover it?
I mean, where are you at

493
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:52.599
the draft? You know, are
you out in the audience or are you

494
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.920
in the back room? Are you
is there a press box? Where are

495
00:33:54.960 --> 00:34:00.359
you covering this from there? There's
a media room here where you can set

496
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:04.960
up all your stuff. At previous
drafts I've covered, which has been in

497
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:09.960
Chicago and in Dallas and in Philadelphia, you've actually there's also a place to

498
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:15.360
go in the room where you can
watch there in the auditorium, where you

499
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.000
can watch the announcement. So in
a perfect world, I sit up there,

500
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.800
watch the announcement, get some color, you know, I mean,

501
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.119
you know, most of the world
is watching this on television. I'm not.

502
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.960
So if I can get some color
that exists outside of the you know,

503
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:36.159
the panorama of the camera, that's
always a really good move. So

504
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.880
time to get that, and then
they will bring Cas for a press conference,

505
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:45.119
probably a half hour after he gets
picked, and then if we're lucky

506
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.000
you we'll get him alone for a
couple of minutes and then we'll do the

507
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.159
same thing again at number nine.
So it'll be it'll be a late night.

508
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:58.519
The year they drafted Mitch r.
Disky in Philadelphia, I took an

509
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.639
Uber home from the draft at two
a m. Eastern and my Uber driver

510
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.880
nodded off on a bridge and I
had to wake her and I had to

511
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.599
wake her up and talk to her
until we got to my hotel. So,

512
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.440
uh so it'll be a late night, is what I'm trying to say.

513
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:19.679
Well, you kept me awake through
and you know what, I usually

514
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.239
just go go sightseeat in Detroit in
the morning. I'll love it, He'll

515
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:27.880
love it. Somebody actually asked me
like, like you know Hitsville, the

516
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.280
USA, like the Motown Museum,
Like I might do that tomorrow? Why

517
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.280
not? That could be okay,
might be a list, might be a

518
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.519
one thing list to do. Did
you have a quick question? Yeah,

519
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:43.119
well I was just going to ask
about the stadium announcement that came out today.

520
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.079
What your thoughts were on that because
I know it's been God bless them,

521
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:50.400
Yeah, God bless him for having
a two hour press conference on the

522
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.719
day that I'm not in town.
You know, it's gonna be a big

523
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:58.760
fight there. I mean, they're
talking about a stadium project that you know,

524
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:02.360
in the four billion dollar range.
It's you know, it's just just

525
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:07.320
south of the current Soldier Field site, so it's downtown UH, and they're

526
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.960
going to see what they can get
from the state in the city UH and

527
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:16.559
other municipalities. They're pledging about three
million of their own money. But you

528
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.920
know, we'll see, we'll see
how that goes. Never forget, guys,

529
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.599
they own three hundred and twenty six
acres in the suburbs that they bought

530
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:29.559
to build a stadium on and then
right apparently as of now, are not

531
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.800
going to build a stadium on it. So I wouldn't be surprised that we're

532
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.559
playing politics for another year here,
trying to play the city up, you

533
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:42.519
know, against the suburbs and vice
versa. You can contribute by going under

534
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:47.760
your bed right now and say Patrick, thank you. I was good to

535
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:53.599
talk text about Patt. Thank you, guys. That's fun. That's fun.

536
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.639
He's always good. You know,
it's it's fun. It's fun,

537
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:01.880
you know. I'm just they're gonna
draft six quarterbacks in the first round.

538
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:05.199
Yeah, you think Panics is not
going to go in the first row.

539
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.920
I don't know, to go top
fifteen could follow the second round, right,

540
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.320
How old is he? At one
hundred, he's like twenty six.

541
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:19.400
That is not like two ACL Yeah
yeah, right, so you so maybe

542
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:21.760
you could be drugged. I've only
had one ACL injury, but I'm sixty

543
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.400
five. I'm a little bit.
Okay, Hey, that was good.

544
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.239
All right, We're gonna take our
final break. Will take your calls when

545
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.719
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forty. We hope to hear from you.

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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve here Jay.

588
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I'm getting my voice back. Finally. I think it's a little better than

589
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the last base. It's not laughable
today, like the work the last couple

590
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of days, I'm feeling finally better
at least okay cool. Thank you Henry

591
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.559
for your question to Pet. We
got about twelve minutes. If anybody want

592
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to call, here's your chance five
two oh four one six four forty Howard

593
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:57.000
if you want to call, tell
me where we're gonna eat after this series?

594
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.639
Hey, we you know we gotta
take George to dinner because oh yeah,

595
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.679
yeah, yeah yeah. Basketball well, I'm not. I just told

596
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.039
him that he's won that. Yeah, he might take us, he might

597
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.840
want us to take him somewhere fancy. We're not going fancy anymore. Yeah,

598
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:15.760
we'll just let him know that Nico's
better than that or something like that.

599
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.719
Okay, we must, we must, we will. Yeah, but

600
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:22.639
oh you know what I'll do.
I'll pick it. I'll pick it up.

601
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.679
I'll be like you a lunch,
you owe me like eight lunch.

602
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.320
No, I owe you a lunch, and then you owe me the five

603
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:35.440
dollars weekly thing that that lasted about
sixty bucks. I have to go back,

604
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:40.599
and so we'll see what happens with
that. The second thought, just

605
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.280
because you said that we're splitting George's
lunch. Yeah, we'll find Okay,

606
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.800
Yeah, we gotta find him.
He's never around, he's always doing see

607
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:53.480
him every Tuesday. Oh yeah,
that's right. Do you guys talk everybody

608
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:58.480
talks or yeah, like thirty seconds
in a minute. Hey, I'm George.

609
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:00.840
This is what I do. Yeah. These are funny to be.

610
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:02.280
Yeah, they're just funny to be. Hey, you know what it works?

611
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.280
These guys do what a fraternity get
out of business? Hey, they

612
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:07.960
are bun it is like a bunch
of frat guys. Yeah, for sure,

613
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:12.119
but uh, you got a good
group. I like it. Okay,

614
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:14.599
again, if you want to call
five two oh four, one,

615
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:16.559
six, seventy four forty, give
us a call. Let us know what

616
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:21.760
you think. Playoffs are still going
on. Will Arizona get some more people

617
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.760
in the portal anytime soon? Doesn't
really matter. Did you see that?

618
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:28.599
Oh? Did you see the thing
with the Damien Martinez today? No?

619
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:37.840
Apparently he is saying that the Oregon
State Collective Yeah, what's the right word

620
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.880
just didn't pay him what they have
promised to pay him. Wow. He

621
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.679
said he was supposed to have been
getting four hundred thousand dollars wow. And

622
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.519
then he got maybe a quarter and
then and the collective is saying we gave

623
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:52.599
him everything that we said we were
going to give him, which I don't

624
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:58.679
know what that you know? And
that Yeah, and that's where was this

625
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:05.400
something I saw? Well? I
I thought reported on Twitter, but I

626
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:09.639
can't can't remember who was reported,
but that that you know that that's one

627
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:15.639
of the reasons why he, uh, he left because because they he came

628
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.679
out and said they lied. Welcome
to the world of college football. College

629
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:24.360
basketball all this this is crazy,
that's crazy. So you promise see four

630
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.559
hundred thousand you gave me one hundred
thousand dollars and I'm mad about it.

631
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:31.559
Yeah yeah, Well you know,
but that he was supposed to be getting

632
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:35.960
more. And well, imagine what
Arizona's gonna pay him. Imagine what miam

633
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:37.719
is gonna And that's that's the conversation
that came up with us. It's like,

634
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:44.039
uh, you know, is Arizona
really in the you know, you

635
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.480
know, hunt to have the money
to you know, to do that kind

636
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:51.599
of thing. Right? How many
how many nice cars get in Arizona?

637
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:53.480
You know, here's my analogy,
right, how many nice cars can you

638
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:59.119
have in the in the garage that
you're paying there paying to have them inside

639
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.000
the garage, but you know you're
gonna use them or you're gonna use them

640
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:05.920
sparingly because you have to pay so
many for so many insurances and all that

641
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.920
stuff with the cars. How many
of these guys can you pay exactly and

642
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:13.679
right, and four hundred thousand dollars
and so, you know, so many

643
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.440
schools you have the money to do
that, you better be washing my dishes

644
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:22.639
and making the beds too, because
going, that's what you're getting paid?

645
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:29.159
Holy moly. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know, man, I mean,

646
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.119
if that's a true story, and
if that's the amount of money that

647
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:36.440
you know, he was getting last
year with the expectation that he's going to

648
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:40.679
do a little bit better than that
this year, I don't know, right

649
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.960
right, Well, this is very
difficult, very difficult for little fans.

650
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.400
Like we said at the beginning of
the top of the show, Texas A

651
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.880
and M having to let people go
because the economics of today's world in athletics

652
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:58.320
and this is Texas A and M
Jay right, they have cash? Well

653
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.519
you think you have cash, you
think they have cash, but you know,

654
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:08.119
do they really right, not under
these circumstances. And that was four

655
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:13.679
or five guys that that go.
And we don't know what Desiree here is

656
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.880
going to do. But they need
to find money. How do you find

657
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:21.800
money and find money you let go
of other money? Well, yeah,

658
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.000
but the numbers are so big,
Steve, you know, I mean,

659
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:30.599
how many millions of dollars do you
have? Do you need not have?

660
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:37.199
But do you need to pay your
football players? You don't know if if

661
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.199
I know, if a fee of
commands a million or half a million or

662
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.760
total. I get it, I
get it. How do you get where

663
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:45.440
do you get it? Where do
you go the line? And who?

664
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.920
Right? Who doesn't get who?
Did I hear you? What was my

665
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.519
problem at the beginning of all this
when I told you if Jay's getting paid

666
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:57.679
X amount of money and he's the
quarterback and I'm the center and I'm not

667
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:01.320
getting paid, I gotta make old
for him. I'm a little upset.

668
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:07.440
Yeah, because you're not successful.
If I'm not successful, no, one

669
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:10.960
hundred percent percent and and and right. And look, I mean these kids

670
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:16.320
are in a lot, in a
lot of ways pretty immature, right questions.

671
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:19.880
So they are going to go,
well, he's getting this, how

672
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:25.840
come I'm not getting sure? And
you just wonder how how that affects a

673
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:30.559
locker room? Right? No,
exactly, And I'm sure it has in

674
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:35.079
a number of different levels. Here, okay, here's here's the story was

675
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:42.880
in uh in Athletic Business dot Com
about Martinez about about Damien Martinez saying that

676
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:47.599
it's the nil collective lied to him, Damn damn d a m nation.

677
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.159
Two words is the is the name
is the name of their collective? He

678
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:57.880
said. He said he's quoted saying
I want everyone to know that they did

679
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.800
not buy me a house I did. They did not buy me the car

680
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.000
I did. They did not give
me four hundred k. I didn't even

681
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.000
receive one hundred k of the four
hundred k. Well, and they said

682
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.960
would they say said that that's a
lie too. They came out and said,

683
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.280
Uh, every single thing that I
or this collective has said they will

684
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.719
do for the student athlete, we
have one thousand percent delivered. Period.

685
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:25.800
That's a fact. The head of
their collective cannot say so one of them's

686
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.159
not. Somebody's lying or both,
or they could be you know, fudging,

687
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:32.800
stretching a little bit right right right. That's what the world has come

688
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:37.639
to. It's unbelievable, unbelievable.
And if you're a fan, if you're

689
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:42.559
a fan that has money, wouldn't
you say, if this is what it's

690
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.320
gonna lead to, I don't want
to be part of one of you.

691
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:49.679
Yes, if it's gonna be these
types of kind of skeasy things in the

692
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:51.920
news media and stuff like that,
I want to keep my money. Yeah,

693
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:52.440
I don't want to. I don't
want to be a part of this.

694
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.320
And another way not to get the
money. Yeah, I don't want

695
00:47:55.360 --> 00:48:00.440
to. I don't want a twenty
year old dude accusing me or us or

696
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.400
the people I'm associated with of ripping
them off, of not coming through and

697
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.400
then having the people I'm associated with
come out and shred the guy. Right.

698
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:12.000
You know, it's just like it's
it's all very really, it's like

699
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.079
your casino guy, you know,
and the pit parky washes himself from all

700
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:19.599
this and says goodbye. I hate
him when they do that, it's too

701
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.519
normal. It feels like to me
like they're knocking all the bad luck out

702
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.280
of their hands and leaving it on
the table for the next for the next

703
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:29.480
dealer. I hate that. Yeah, I hate that. So I you

704
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:30.519
know, I don't know, but
you know, somebody sent me that that

705
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:36.039
that story and said, is there
zona even in this ballpark? You know,

706
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.719
they're they're gonna be given a kid
like like Damian Martinez four hundred.

707
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:43.119
They got to be in some type
of ball park. Look at what we

708
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.760
had. What really shook me last
week was the deal Barnes saying, putting

709
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:52.719
that out there and just saying we
don't have very much and we're going against

710
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:55.920
Alice Shoes made me an extreme right. Yeah, but if we don't have

711
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.880
any much means they still got to
compete with the people that are competing in

712
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:01.599
right, And it might be fine
and dandy for Brent Brannan to say,

713
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.159
well, if money is the first
thing on a guy's mind, we're really

714
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:07.880
not interested in that guy. But
you know what, somebody else, somebody

715
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:12.079
else will do. Nobody else is
interested in that guy, and they are

716
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:14.800
going to give that guy, sure
that that money. And now you don't

717
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:16.320
have him, and you got to
go somewhere else for a guy. Right,

718
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:22.920
So it got this this whole upheaval
of what it's like out there.

719
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.840
So this is what I was gonna
talk to you about when I thought about

720
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:29.360
this today. So back in COVID
times and we were thinking about there's no

721
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.000
way they're gonna be able to do
sustaining because they were like forty five millions

722
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.159
in the whole right then that first
year, and everybody had no issues with

723
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:37.239
it. Right, they figure out
a way, well they kind of did,

724
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:42.480
but they didn't. But these coaches
making five three, five six million

725
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.239
dollars, just they gonna stop doing
that. And not not just Arizona,

726
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:50.920
everybody you see Brent Brandon Carroll's getting
one point two million. I watch it,

727
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.360
and that's my point. They're not
gonna stop that. They're not gonna

728
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:57.119
stop paying the coaches. Yeah,
the coaches aren't going to take pay cuts

729
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:01.920
right to pay to pay out an
I ol? Right, you think?

730
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:05.519
Let me say, do you think
coaches are gonna pay? Would they pay

731
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.440
for any They've got four and a
half million dollars in their pocket this year.

732
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.119
You think they're gonna put any money
into it? I don't think they

733
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.440
can. But you know what I'm
saying, No, yeah, no,

734
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:15.360
I mean if they if they can, what they would do is they say,

735
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:20.119
cut my pay or make that go
to right? You think they're gonna

736
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:22.159
do that? No, exactly,
that's the ANSWERFIC. We're gonna get his

737
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:25.440
seven and a half million dollars no
matter what. Sure, and we'll coach

738
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:30.639
them up. We'll go down there
and get some Arizona can and then we'll

739
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:35.360
hope the Florida job comes open anytime. Suits exactly. No, it's a

740
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:40.199
it's a it's a it's a vicious
cycle because it's just not sustainable. You

741
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:44.159
know, you want to go get
this money, but then you got these

742
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:47.159
players who want it, coaches want
it. Uh. Then you know you

743
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.519
still got to build facilities. Uh, you know, you got to have

744
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.679
private planes for the basketball team.
Jay. You know, it's just that's

745
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:59.639
one year. That's four hundred thousand
one year. What do you do for

746
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.119
the next year? And I get
it. You know, athletes have deserved

747
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:06.880
to get paid for a really long
time, not this way to go from

748
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.320
zero to four hundred thousand dollars or
zero to two million dollars or whatever it

749
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:15.159
is now nowadays. And and you
know, in a lot of those cases,

750
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.280
Steve, they're getting that money out
of the goodness of somebody else's heart

751
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:23.440
or out of somebody's fandom. I'm
such a great fan, I'll put this

752
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:27.280
money in so you can make a
million dollars a year and we can win

753
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:30.239
some games. I've already said this. I know some people who are who

754
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.079
are big fans, and they're being
asked to do it, and they're fans

755
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:36.440
enough to do it, and their
business is of being affected because now we

756
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.159
had the layoff some people. Right, So at some point they're gonna say,

757
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:44.079
I'm sorry, I can't because I
have people to pay and they have

758
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:47.800
families to feed. Right, What's
your choice, honestly, morally, Moraley,

759
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.840
you're a business owner. Do I
keep my employees happy? Or do

760
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:54.800
I pay to you? Way to
give money? To give money to the

761
00:51:54.920 --> 00:52:00.199
offensive tackle tough. Yeah, it's
gonna be really, really hard, and

762
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.880
I don't know how they're ever going
to figure this out. It just doesn't

763
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:07.159
seem it just doesn't seem like anything
that can be figured. No, you're

764
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:08.280
right, the genie's out of the
bottle. How are you gonna put the

765
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:14.199
thing back in? I don't know, no idea. The good thing is

766
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:15.440
you and I don't have to worry
about it while you're bringing me down again

767
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:17.400
here at the end of the show, just in time, and I'm gonna

768
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:21.280
go home and it'll be really bummed. I'm gonna go get under the blankets

769
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:23.320
and pull them over my head and
then watch the rest of the Dodger game

770
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:30.440
and they'll depress you even more.
Good show, Thank you, Henry Uh.

771
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:31.840
I think you'll be back in time
or two, right, and you

772
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.880
see what you want to do with
us the rest of the semester, rest

773
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:39.960
of the summer. Okay, all
right, well, okay, you can

774
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:45.840
come back. Even though you're a
Yankee fan, you wear their gear and

775
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:52.639
stuff. Of course you say,
just don't worry here, Henry, don't

776
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:57.559
worry, but you're okay. We
gotta go, We got all right,

777
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.559
we gotta get out of here,
all right. Well, see you tomorrow.

778
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:01.000
Be sure to be back