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Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your
host, Cliff Dunning. Hey, Hi,

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welcome to Destiny. Hope you're okay
today, doing well. This is

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a podcast on a personal note and
it is discussing reiki. Reiki is a

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healing technique that I learned back in
I want to say nineteen eighty four,

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could have been nineteen eighty five.
My then partner who eventually would become my

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wife and I were enthralled by the
idea of transmitting energy out of our hands,

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and we had heard about a sui. This Japanese he's not really a

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priest. He's more like an explorer
who studied theology, religion and was a

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Buddhist and he discovered this technique.
He was born in the late eighteen hundreds,

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and he discovered this technique in his
pilgrimage to learn more about ancient healing

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techniques. And it seems when you
read about him that he was also seeking

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wellness techniques for the physical body.
And he was the founder and he passed

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it on to his students, and
their students passed it onto a woman named

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Takata, who brought it to the
United States, where it was disseminated in

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the nineteen eighties throughout the whole world, and to this day it's still a

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phenomenon. When it first started to
be understood and used, people pooh pooed

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it as some kind of a fake
healing technique. But when you actually have

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a trained riiky practitioner work on you, you feel the energy. You feel

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either heat, some people feel tingling. And you know, it's funny because

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there's stories of people getting their first
treatment laying on a massage table getting a

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treatment, and you just the practitioner
just laying their hands in a certain pattern.

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There's not a massage, there's no
nudity at all. You're fully clothed

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when you're getting a treatment. Some
people feel kind of a light tingling,

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others feel heat, great heat,
Others feel sensation more than just the hands

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on the body. And this is
what makes y Ricky so unique, is

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this subtlety of its distribution in the
body. As a practitioner, I was

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it was wonderful because it calms the
body, it's healing. And we were

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working in a clinic, My girlfriend
at the time and I were working in

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a clinic with other people and we
would have and this clinic was in the

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San Francisco Bay area. This clinic, we saw people with degenerative diseases like

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rheumatoid arthritis. We worked with people. At that time, AIDS was a

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big illness and we would work with
people on with various stages of illness to

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help them feel better. And in
some case we actually work with people with

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cancers. I think I mentioned to
generative diseases, which are ms and arthritis.

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We saw pretty much everything, and
I have to say to a person,

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I saw and actually felt that the
person or the person conveyed to me

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that they were feeling or getting benefits
feeling better. And this is what's so

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amazing about raiki is it actually has
some form of intelligence. We were trained

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and taught. It's part of a
universal life force energy. But my guest

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today is the president of the International
Raiki Center, and he will give us

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an update on the true language because
he by the way, my guest is

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William Rand who's the president of the
International Raiki Alliance. He actually went to

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Japan and as well here today had
some writings of a sue the founder of

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raiki, transcribed into English, and
he actually discovered a tremendous amount of new

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data that I didn't know about.
So part of this interview today is a

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bit of a bit of an eye
opener. But over the last a few

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decades, reiki has come into its
own as a powerful energetic healing technique or

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a wellness technique, and it's very
easy to learn. There's no extensive class

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work. You take it within two
days, and a lot of it sounds

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very out of this world when the
teacher basically says to you that you're gonna

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you're a channel for this universal energy
and that through a series of a tune,

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the teacher opens you to receiving this
energy. Well, it sounds very

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strange for a lot of people,
and if you're an academic, you would

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pooh pooh it. Most doctors say, well, this is bs except that

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I trained numerous nurses physical therapists.
It's noted as a really great tool for

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anyone who works with those who are
physical therapy, but more towards just a

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general wellness if you were if you're
in the well in this industry, the

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doctors that are open minded about it, that receive the energy and attunements to

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become practitioners. Ones I've talked to
swear by it and I've used it for

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everything from upset stomachs to muscle pain. I'm dealing with it with a problematic

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shoulder right now, and I mean
whenever I sit down I put my hand

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on my shoulder. I think I
had to get an X ray. But

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I think I may have pulled something
in my shoulder. I'm not sure,

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but it's it's a problem. I
can't lift my arm. Well, I

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can, but it's just my range
of motion has been diminished. And so

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this reiki really makes things feel much
much better. So the program today is

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the history of reiki. It's it
being brought to the Americas or in specifically

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the United States, how it works, and it's roots. And this is

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very important when I say roots,
because as you'll hear from William, my

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guest, the thinking is that this
is a technique that has been known for

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thousands and thousands of years, and
it's part of being human, part of

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the human condition. We're just now
beginning to understand that we are surrounded with

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energy and this energy is called auras, and there's multiple levels of auras,

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and that's outside of the body,
and then within the body there are these

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energy centers known as chakras and it's
like, well, it's so fuzzy and

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warm. But you know what,
the Hindus have known about this and the

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change. I've known about this for
thousands of years. We have journals,

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we have documents that they understood it, they tracked it, and just because

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you can't see it doesn't mean it's
not there. One of the fascinating things

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about our interview today is the lack
of scanning technology when it comes to understanding

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the body's energy fields. This is
the future of medicine is working with frequencies,

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working with healing, energy to heal, rather than medicate with drugs or

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open a person up with surgical procedures, or if they have a degenerative condition

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or a mass of a tumor or
something to irradiate the body. That is

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asked backwards that God, I don't
even know how the hell they do that.

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I don't know, I don't know. It's just it seems so asked

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backwards. And I think that's becoming
more prevalent, more problematic for those in

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the medical community to recommend unnecessary surgeries
and drugs to mask a problem. Energy

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healing goes right at the issue.
And I will say this about Raiki it

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does have some strange intelligence. And
what that means is, as a practitioner,

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you're taught how to place your hands
in certain patterns on the body,

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and although those are fundamental patterns,
energy will go to the area that needs

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it the most. And what that
means is one of the first patterns is

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right over the rib cage where the
major organs are. And I've had people

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go, hey, I fill this
in my head. Well, my hands

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are not on the person's head,
heard down below on the gut, and

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so that tells you there's some you
know, the energy is going to these

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areas. So raki's fascinating. It
really is. It's true energy medicine.

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I would love to find a codis
or a Scriptu says it was used by

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the Summarians or the ancient Chinese.
There's a there's a link to the Chinese

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in some of the early research,
and the Chinese has something similar to raiki.

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So it might turn out that raiki
is one of many healing modalities that

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are applied with human touch. So
fascinating topics to disguise. This interview is

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a little bit longer because obviously this
is something that I'm passionate about. And

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you know the thing is, once
you're attuned to the energy, you're opened

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to it. You're receiving it constantly. You can't. It never goes away.

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It's part of you. I think
it's a benefit. And by the

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way, there's kind of two levels
to Ricky. There's the physical hands on

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and then there is a series of
symbols that were discovered ancient symbols. When

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you use these symbols, one of
them is good for increasing the flow of

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energy, which I think it means
opening you as the channel is what my

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guests would be. But the second
symbols that the sue the founder uses is

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ancient and it helps you do what
they call distant treatments. You can work

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on somebody who's simplace house in the
world, on a different planet, a

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different universe, which it sounds weird, but it's true. So a lot

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of this is going to stretch your
imagination quite a bit, but the foundations

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of it are great. Most cities
have practitioners that you can look up on

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Google or whatever search engines you use, and if you're curious about raiki,

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go in and have a treatment.
You know, it might be seventy five,

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might be fifty a lot of these
holistic fairs have people that are raiky

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practitioners that are willing to give your
treatment. Check it out, see how

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it feels, and then I always
recommend people to go in for an introductory

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class. So just another tool that
you can use for yourself, for your

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loved ones. And I gotta say
this, it's wonderful for animals. I've

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had a number of cats over the
years and they love Raiki. In fact,

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they help jump up over here,
love and go okay, let's do

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it, dad, I need the
treatment. So this is gonna be fun.

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com. I've been a practitioner of
reiki for over thirty years, and it's

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funny because I have used it in
my life. I've used it in my

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relations At one point, my ex
wife and I had a business here in

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San Francisco called Redwood Well Bean Center
where we were training people. She after

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we divorced, she continued that I
think she's still doing it now she's in

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northern California. But all through the
years, I you know, we train

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people. But now that I have
a podcast, I want to talk about

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it. And I'm really fortunate to
have William Rand, who is the president

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of the International Center for Reiki Training, to be with us today to talk

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a little bit about the history of
reiki, what akee is, and why

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are there's such an interest in energy
healing. Now, years ago, when

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I was a program director for Whole
Life Expo, we would have people come

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and talk about raiki and I think
it's it comes and goes in terms of

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its interests. I think it researches
and it blows, and like anything else

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that's dynamic, there's high points and
low points. I can't think of anything

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really negative to speak about it because
I've been using it. I think it's

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wonderful. It's a self healing technique. It's also great for healing and working

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with others, including animals. But
today we're going to drill down a little

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bit and I want you, my
listeners, to understand the interest of what

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Ricky's about, but also the actual
application. So William, welcome to Destiny.

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Great to have you on the program. Thank you, Yeah, thanks

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for inviting me. Sure, yeah
out here. Talk a little bit about

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yourself. You have been the president
it in of the International Center for Ricky

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Training since nineteen ninety one, and
in that time, you know, you've

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probably trained thousands of people. But
talk a little bit about why you decided

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to form an organization. Yeah.
Well, im my background is that I

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gained an interest in personal development right
after high school. And then I was

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a Rosa Crucian and I was into
that for five years or something, and

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then I thought, you know,
at first, like a lot of people

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that joined organization, oh we know
everything. This is the only thing I

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need to know. And I started
thinking, well, you know, maybe

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I could learn a little more if
I even picked up a little bit more

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from some other group. I just
expand my knowledge. So I started studying

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custom gold concept therapy that uses hypnosis
to put positive concepts in your mind to

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heal and improve that your life and
so forth. And then I became a

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profession from astrologer. I did that
for ten years. I developed my own

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type of astrology chart. And I
was also involved with past life reggression therapy,

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so I did I you know,
I became a hypnotherapist. And but

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then past life aggression uses hypnosis,
so that was like a natural to ease

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you know, lead into that,
and um I did TUREAU used to row

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cards and um I worked. Actually
one big thing is I work with a

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cahuna, which is the Hawaiian shaman. Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't.

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What didn't just take his classes?
I actually worked with him. Uh

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do it? You know doing healing
and different projects for about a year,

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and so I got firsthand knowledge about
what cahunas do. And there's a lot

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of things that shamans teach to the
general public, but they don't teach everything.

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But because I worked with him,
I learned all the things going on

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in the background. And then I
was also involved with wika and um quite

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a broad range of different types of
healing. And so you're you're a metaphysician,

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definitely, you know somebody who's a
secret yeah, yeah, and then

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um, after a while, I
thought, you know, I know all

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these different things, and I realized, though, if I specialize in one

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and become known as an expert in
one field, I felt I would do

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a lot better. And so that's
what I did, and I chose raiki.

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So in UM eighty nine March of
Adam, became rickey master and then

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I gradually, uh moved into just
doing raiky, teaching racky classes who trained

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you in raiki. My first teacher
was Bethel Fay. She had learned from

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Takadah. She's a dik descendant of
Takata Okay well in lineage, yes,

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and then um I got I met
Beth Gray. I don't maybe I got

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a little trained from her. But
then, um, Harry Coboy also was

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a master trained by Takata, some
training with him, and then um,

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let's see, oh, just quite
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And because I wanted to get a
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and of course, um the takana
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little uh fear, usually didn't allow
anyone to take notes or you know what's

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so funny you mentioned that. I
remember Beth saying, you're not supposed to

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take notes. I'm like, what
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Yeah, I had the same question
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what is this? Uh? Why
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Remember it? And so when I
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I let people take notes. Yeah, we created a book. Eventually.

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What happened was I was teaching the
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know, oral tradition, no notes, no nothing, I think writing.

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you guys still practicing? And they
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couldn't remember exactly how to do it. And so we weren't. We haven't

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really practiced. So I felt,
wait a minute, Uh, you know,

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I can I can break this rule
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do this in writing, you know, have about my own workbook, or

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I could let my students be ignorant
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going to go with door number two, and so I quote broke the rule

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and I wrote the best workbook I
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nothing held back, and let people
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said oh yeah, of course we
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We're still practicing. So I was
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later on I've discovered that that wasn't
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that up herself, and that a
Sui and Hayashi all had workbooks and this

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is a kind of in fact,
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And yet she said that raki was
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about a little bit about her peculiar
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strange things in her bringing the tradition
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go back a little bit. William
Ricky was brought or discovered by Michael A.

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Sui, And the story goes that, you know, he was searching

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for techniques and so such, and
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He got a PhD in theology from
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born in eighteen sixty five, and
he seemed to be the funny thing about

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it. I was just looking at
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samurai, which I didn't know that
until I didn't. Yeah, I'm not

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sure about that. Well that's what
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also says in another journal I found
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on I didn't know that it's possible, but I would say, what's that

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based on There's been a lot of
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and yeah, I never heard that
before. This is the first time

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I ever heard that he was raised
as a samurai. And talk about what

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you know then, So I mean
that, I mean he was born,

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you know, the late eighteen hundreds, and he looks like he to me,

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he's traveling the world seeking knowledge.
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early eighteen hundreds, and he got
his ability to do Raiki. I'm Mount

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Karama in eighteen excuse me, let
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his ability in the early nineteen hundreds. So yeah, I think you're right

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where you're saying he was born in
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But he never did go to the
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not true. So you know,
that's there's two things that I you know,

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when I first became a master,
I thought, hey, you know,

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I'm close to Chicago here in Detroit
and school there. Boy, there's

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a must could be a treasure trove
of information about Raiki. And so I

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wrote them a letter and talked about
macauas Sue, and they were quite interested

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in what I was saying. And
they said that they took some time and

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went through all of their archives and
records, and they assured me that they

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have a record of every single person
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university, and so they're quite certain
about their records. And they said they

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had there's no one by that name
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hour. And I thought own because
I thought I was about to, you

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know, uncover all this information about
him. But they said he never went

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to the University Chicago. So then
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was supposed to have been the president
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university in Japan. So I thought, ah, but at least he was

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president of Dooshesia University. So then
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thing. They said that they did
respect my request, and they very carefully

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looked through all of their records and
they said there had never been anyone by

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that name that was president. And
then I got a list of all the

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presidents and the dates that they were
president, and there are no gaps and

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there's no one by that name that
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go what happened? And I thought, maybe to kind of made stuff up,

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and maybe it's maybe I should stop
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you know, the energy works,
and so that's valid. And so

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what I'm going to do is keep
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and just see what I find.
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an accurate history. Talk a little
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found, because you know, it's
funny that you're talking about this now.

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A few years ago, I think
your institution began promoting this new book that

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you can get on it's your workbook. I think you can get on Amazon

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that might have this new research on
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this important man, because you know, I remember the story of him discovering

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raiki, but it also talks about
an understanding that there's kind of an energy

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healing that had been known for two
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know if that's valid or not.
So why don't you give us the story

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of this man. Yeah, McCalla
Suey is far from my research is.

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up, I think he probably for
it was from not a really wealthy family,

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but they were fairly life would say, i'd call it upper middle class

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maybe something like that. So he
had extra funds and so he was very

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curious about life, and he traveled
around Japan. Also they say he went

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to China, and also they say
he went to Europe and he had lots

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of different jobs, and he learned
how many different trades, and with every

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trade he noticed that there was a
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wondering, well, what about life? Does life have a purpose? And

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he started asking around. He was
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you learn the purpose of life.
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a Buddhist school of zen meditation,
and he meditated faithfully for three years

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and nothing happened. He didn't learn
the purpose of life. And what he

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was looking for is something called Ansen
ditsume Hansen didsume, and so Hansen ditsume

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is enlightenment in which you become enlightened, but also you discover you're shown your

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life purpose and furthermore, you're empowered
to achieve it. So it's not like

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you have this difficult thing to do. It's like suddenly you have the confidence,

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the energy and the pathway to follow
to achieve it. So that's what

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he was looking for, and so
he didn't get it doing his eyes and

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meditation, at least not with the
monastery. And so he asked his teacher,

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well, is there more that I
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anything from this, and the team
said, yes, you can meditate on

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a sacred mountain. So it was
Mount Karama. So he went there and

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he went up to the near the
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there's some fresh water, but there
was no food. So he fasted and

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meditated for twenty two days, and
he had set out these stones in front

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of him, and at the end
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away to keep back at a time, and he kept going and gradually,

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though without eating, he got weaker
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he tossed the last on the way
he stood up, and to that point

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nothing happened. But suddenly when he
stood up, this light came down through

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the top of his head, filled
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he was so weak though he passed
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In the morning, then he woke
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now he was much different. Now
he was filled with a tremendous energy and

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power. And he said to himself, the universes in me, and I

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am in the universe. And so
like he knew something very profound. It

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happened, and he wanted to tell
his teacher. So he goes running down

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the mountain, and on Mount Karama
there are a lot of exposed roots that

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just the water flowing down and exposed
these roots. So he stumbles on this

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route and now at this point he's
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and of course it's it's painful,
so he goes, Oh, he

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puts his hand over the toe,
just like anyone would do, and suddenly

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this energy starts flowing down his arms
into the toe and it spontaneously heals the

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toe nail, and he gets the
knowledge that this is his purpose to be

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a healer. Yeah. Yeah,
So then he walks down more slowly.

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He goes all the way back to
Tokyo, and then he begins working with

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poor people and people who are sick
and injured and so forth, healing them.

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And at first he didn't have a
formal method of he didn't have an

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attunement. So he had his powerful
experience on the mountain where he received this

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special healing energy. And then he
went to Tokyo and he was healing people

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and he did start to train them, but he didn't have the attunement.

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So what he would do is he
would have the students take your hands and

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pull them like this. Then he
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their hands and give their hands reeking. Interesting, Yeah, that was this

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early, that's what you're saying.
This not wasn't actually an attunment at that

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point, but it was an attempt
to train his students. Now this has

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come from Deis Sense Hiroshi. Deis
sense is a Japanese Ricky master, and

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I had a good fortune of meeting
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several times and then he opened up
and I translated his book into English,

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and so he was very grateful for
that, and so he would answer any

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question I would have. Now he's
being Japanese, of course he has an

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advantage to us, you know,
English speaking people. And so also he

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was asked to be a member of
the issue Reiki Ryoho dot COI. Now

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that's the organization that is who he
had started, and they're still around even

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now. He became a member and
he had access to their artimes and also

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access to the older teachers and members, and he could ask them lots of

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questions and so his knowledge of raki
expanded. And then he was doing his

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own research as well. And you
found the notes that one of the Suey's

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students had taken and then that added
to his knowledge, and in those notes

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had said something very interesting. It
said that the most Suey said in his

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training, the most important thing for
a riki practitioner to do is to continually

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seek to develop the quality and quantity
of raki energy they're able to channel.

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Now, this was a new idea
because basically raki was taught and I learned

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too that well, you got level
one, that's what you got. You

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can't make it any stronger. But
if you want to do that, you'd

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take level too. Then it does
get stronger, but you can't make level

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to any stronger. And the same
with master. But what the notes said

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from someone that sell you with the
Suey was that no, you're supposed to

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try and make it stronger and improve
the energy. And so you know,

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that was a turning point. So
Doyce since a uncovered disinformation and he you

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know, he's written a book and
he now has another book and we're working

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to see if we can translate that
to English. Also, I didn't know

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this, so William, I'm gonna
have to find Let's go to your website

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and buy these books. Talk a
little bit about what a sue he called

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the universal life force energy. That's
how he named this. How does he

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explain the human vehicle becoming a channel
for the energy. Well, first of

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all, that's missus Dakata's interpretation universal
life force energy. But what we know

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about reiki is reiki is what you
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guided by a higher power. As
an example, in shamanism, the healing

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method pretty much all over the planet
is to build up your own life energy

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through breathing and meditation, and then
you guide it and give it to the

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person you want to heal, and
so you use your own energy to help

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them, and then you guide it
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beauty of reiki is you're not using
your own energy, you're channeling a new

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energy. It's a higher frequency than
normal life energy that people have. It

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comes from a universal supply, so
your energy is never depleted, and it's

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also guided, has its own wisdom
and knows what's going on with the person.

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It kind of like reads the person's
aura and knows about their path and

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knows exactly what they need and formulates
the right frequencies of healing that they're just

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right for that individual. So the
reeki energy has its own wisdom and knowledge,

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guides itself, and comes from a
universal supply. So those are two

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things that are not usually part of
the shamanic type of healing which I've studied.

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Also, so when I heard about
it, I thought, if that's

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true, then it's got to be
something really special. So then I went

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ahead and took the training and learned
because I wondered, is it really true?

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And so I always like to experience
things to know, you know,

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see that they actually are real.
And so when I received my training from

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Bethel Fay that was a nineteen eighteen
eighty one, then I thought, yeah,

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which she says, it's true.
This is powerful, and I had

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some amazing experiences during the attenment.
And also it validated, you know,

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when they did the healing that it
was actually stronger than the energy you learned

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from the Rosa Crucians and also from
the kahuna that I worked with. It

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was more powerful than that, and
also it guided itself so much higher frequency.

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So let me let me just stopped
you for a minute in your research

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on Sue's clinic I'm going to call
it in Japan and his students and this

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one student who wrote a book on
his work. There's Sue or anyone in

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his clinic, trace this energetic healing
to bet to a civilization, to a

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people who are using this energy,
because it seems like it is a possible

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technique that's been known about. Oh. Absolutely, healing has been around,

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I would say since the beginning of
time or something else. It's ancient,

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ancient, ecient. And you know, people naturally have, like children,

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understand healing. It's just part of
their nature. And so native peoples all

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over the world have a knowledge of
that as well because they pay attention to

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their feelings, the energies and so
forth. So it's been around for a

415
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long time now. In Japan,
there already was a practice called riki riojo

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prior to a Sue developing his style. So a Sui didn't invent or come

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up with this idea of reiki.
It was already in use in Japan.

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And so there was a man in
Modiji Kawakami, and he developed a style

419
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in nineteen thirteen and he called it
reiki riyoho and it was a hands on

420
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healing. But he didn't have an
attunement, and so to get the energy

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you would have to meditate like this. You take your hands and put them

422
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on top of your hands like this, and sit there and meditate on your

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hands and receive an energy from above. But for hours and hours and hours

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you'd have to sit there, and
at first you get a little bit of

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energy, but over time, gradually
it would get stronger. So this already

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was being practiced in Japan prior to
a Sui developing his style, and in

427
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:58.519
fact, a Sui called his style
a sui reiki riojo. Right, So

428
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it's we don't know for certain,
but it sounds to me like maybe he

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knew about reiki bojo and he said, well, this is my style,

430
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sue riki rio That makes sense.
It's kind of like a dojo's different schools

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of healing. So talk real quickly, and then I want to get into

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the actual process of the reiki treatment. I want to also talk about Takata

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and in her legacy. But when
someone is attuned, if Suey had this

434
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knowledge and it was enlightened and given
this energy and he's passing it on,

435
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:38.800
what do we know about the attunement
itself so that others can begin using it.

436
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.920
Well, what happened was he first
he got the energy, and that

437
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was his first spiritual experience on the
mountain, So probably in March April nineteen

438
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:52.480
twenty two, that's when that happened. And then he was practicing like as

439
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.440
I was saying, he had this
method of just giving reiki to the person's

440
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hands, but it was very slow. Right then, in nineteen twenty three,

441
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:02.920
there was what's called the Great Kanto
earthquake and tsunami, and many people

442
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died, many people's homes collapsed,
they were injured and sick and so forth.

443
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:13.840
So Sue he needed to he needed
a lot more healing. So that's

444
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:17.000
when he meditated, and now he
was enlightened. He had what's called ansendsime.

445
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.280
So when an enlightened person meditates,
you know something happened. So he

446
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:25.920
asked for a method of quickening the
training process, and that's when he was

447
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:31.559
given a new energy where he could
just pass this energy on directly to his

448
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:37.320
students, and so the energy of
a tunement or what's called laidu in Japanese.

449
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And so he would do it at
first by touching the shoulders and suddenly

450
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:45.440
the student just has the new energy
or the hands or even the hips,

451
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and it was just a touch but
then it came time for him to train

452
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:54.159
other teachers, and that's when you
develop the ritual method of doing the attunement

453
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:59.280
where you stand behind and say some
prayers and touch the shoulders and around the

454
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.039
front hand end and tapping the hands
and breathing and all that. Then he

455
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:07.840
developed that ritual so that it was
easier for his students to um to teach,

456
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:17.440
and the ritual real quickly. The
ritual opens the person's oric field or

457
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:23.280
what did you suspect happens the person? Because you're basically saying something that I

458
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:30.719
hadn't thought about before. Sue became
someone of an avatar if if not you

459
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:37.840
know, a holy man, and
was able to transmit the opening channel that

460
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allowed the energy to be used by
his students. So what would you say?

461
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:51.199
So the technique he used is something
that he thought about, I guess,

462
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:58.079
or maybe was provided in some kind
of into intuitive notion on how to

463
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.960
transmit the energy so that it wasn't
just used once. The person who received

464
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this became a practitioner, yes,
and teacher. From my understanding, when

465
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A Sue developed this, he developed
it in such a way that his students

466
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received everything that A Sioue had,
so he duplicated himself in his students.

467
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Interesting and that also another very fascinating
thing is that when a sue had his

468
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experience on the mountain, he became
enlightened. And then when he trained his

469
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other students, and when he trained
what's called shimpy Din, which his master,

470
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they also became enlightened. So his
students became enlightened. Then when those

471
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:49.719
students trained their students and they trained
teachers, their students became enlightened. But

472
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then when a soue died, that
feature disappeared, and so it was dependent

473
00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:00.199
upon a sue being physically alive and
present on the planet for that to happen,

474
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and so then the enlightenment part went
away, and then they just just

475
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:12.679
had the healing. And so although
I would say people get it some a

476
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.079
little bit of enlightenment anyway with the
attunants, but that disappeared, and so

477
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:20.920
then they continued to teach like that, and the shimpy Din, or master

478
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:27.639
level for the Gaki in Japan became
honorary and there was no additional energy that

479
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.679
was transmitted in the master level,
but it was the people who were like

480
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worthy and loyal to Raiki and so
forth and they were conferred and known as

481
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:42.199
shimpy Din but there was no new
energy. So when a SUEI was around,

482
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this amazing enlightenment happened, and then
after he passed it went away.

483
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:52.360
So that was quite interesting when I
found that out. Also, now,

484
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:59.559
of course I'm saying I got this
from Deis sense and he's extraordinary. He's

485
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:05.639
still allowed even um just some a
few weeks ago in Japan, and um

486
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:09.400
there was a conference there. But
um, yeah, that's basically some some

487
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:15.960
interesting facts about the history of Ricky. So let's give a real basic overview

488
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:23.280
of the of the actual technique.
So a sue must have been indoctrinated somewhere

489
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on how to apply the technique to
somebody who's laying on the table, on

490
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:37.920
a bed or whatever, and then
so talk about that. So this is

491
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not holding your hands away from the
body. It's touching the body with the

492
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with the hands. So give us
an idea what a Ricky treatment is.

493
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:52.719
Well, the full triable is actually
developed by Takata, so um she had

494
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:58.119
um she developed what she called the
standard treatment. But what she did,

495
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:01.960
though her her standard tree was just
hand placements around the abdomen and around the

496
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:07.239
head. That was it, and
so but what she was, what she

497
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:13.760
learned would be called bios and scanning, and so that's where you actually use

498
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.719
the sensitivity in your hand to determine
where the person needs reiki and then you

499
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:23.000
treat those spots. But in addition, she developed the standard treatment the abdomen

500
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in the head. Now since that
time, though, people have developed have

501
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:32.880
expanded on those hand placements to do
more like a complete like using the knees

502
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:37.159
and also the feet as well,
So around the head the abdomen and then

503
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.519
the knees and feet. So now
it was expanded just by adding those additional

504
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.719
hand placements. So riggy is done
by the way a Suey did a light

505
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:51.880
touch and there's no pressure, there's
no manipulation of tissue at all, and

506
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:55.440
it's purely just an energy that comes
from the hands and goes into the person.

507
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.360
It will treat where the hands are
placed, but sometimes it will actually

508
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:06.719
travel through the body's energy system so
that it treats other areas as well.

509
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:12.079
So it's kind of a smart energy
that directs itself, so the practitioner does

510
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.039
not direct it with their mind.
Yeah, the energy directs itself. So

511
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:20.599
the practitioner stays out and let's the
energy just flow and do its own thing.

512
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:24.000
And then the energy also guides the
practitioner and where the best places are

513
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:29.679
to place the hands as well.
So do you and your technique, do

514
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:37.360
you provide a fundamental placement? And
when you teach somebody like like Takata's the

515
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:42.760
gut area. And then I learned
when we did the clinic with Beth Grays

516
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:45.519
that we turn people over and make
sure that we did it the adrenals because

517
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:51.440
those are always stressed out on people
above the kidneys. Yeah, we have

518
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.920
our workbook and their hand positions that
we show how to do starting in the

519
00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:00.199
head and then down and around the
heart and the abdomen and the hips and

520
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:04.519
the knees and the feet, and
then there are back positions as well.

521
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We're gonna take a short commercial break
to allow our sponsors to identify themselves and

522
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:53.079
then we'll be right back with William
Rand discussing the raiky technique. I guess

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today is William Ran. He is
the president of the International Center for Reiki

524
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:05.840
Training, and we're talking about the
history, the application and uses for reiki.

525
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:14.639
So a suwe trained a group of
masters in Urio Hayashi was one of

526
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them, and he developed a clinic. He was an MD, which was

527
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:24.519
interesting, well not we found he
wasn't quite an MD. Okay in the

528
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:30.760
military. Uh, he had some
medical training, but not all the way

529
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to MD. So oh, that's
interesting refinement on hennology. Yeah. So

530
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:37.840
but he did have clinic, a
clinic, right, Yeah, he had

531
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:43.559
a clinic yea. And so he
uh, healed and work with a lot.

532
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.239
I shouldn't use the term. Hell, we don't use that term.

533
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:53.360
Uh. He assisted people with various
health issues and I what would you say,

534
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:58.320
talk a little bit about his work. Yeah, he had a clinic.

535
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:00.639
Now he did have like a meal
background, not an MD, but

536
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:07.159
he did have a systematic way of
practicing healing or you know, self improvement,

537
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.920
whatever you want go on. And
so then he applied that to develop

538
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.960
his own style, and he kept
accurate records of every single person that came

539
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:19.320
to the clinic and the hand positions
that worked for the different illnesses and conditions

540
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.800
that they worked with. And so
out of that they developed what he called

541
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:29.400
the standard you know, the hand
placements. But they were first very specific

542
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:34.880
conditions and there were a lot of
them. So then when Takata learned it,

543
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.280
I think that what she was thinking
was, you know, teach all

544
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:43.440
of these hand positions. It was
complicated. So she created the standard treatment,

545
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.440
which was around the head and the
abdomen to make it very simple when

546
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:52.239
she was teaching. Okay, So
we're gonna get to Takata in a minute.

547
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:59.079
But Hayashi primarily was in Japan.
He didn't train outside of Japan,

548
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.039
did he not? That I know? No? Okay, Now, the

549
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:08.039
one thing I want you to talk
a little bit about is the diagnostic abilities

550
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of reiki. And I'm curious if
this is something that came out of Hayashi's

551
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:22.559
clinic and if he wrote about how
to you know, tell everybody, and

552
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.480
this is something we should talk a
little bit about. When you have a

553
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:30.360
reiki in a tunement to receive the
energy and begin working with it, some

554
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.639
people feel heat in their hand when
they apply it on the body. Some

555
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:42.880
people feel tingling, some people may
feel something unusual. But this sensation,

556
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:49.199
well, when you're putting your hands
on some on someone, an animal or

557
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:57.760
a human, will increase and then
decrease depending on the absorption of the energy

558
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.639
in the organ or in the body. Talk a little bit about what you

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00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:10.719
discovered in the diagnostic abilities of reiki. Yeah, it's quite interesting because I,

560
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.159
like I say, I learned healing
from the Kahuna and he did do

561
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:20.719
a diagnostic sort of with the hands, and so I actually borrowed that and

562
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.599
he added it to reiki. Prior
to learning that there was a formal method.

563
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:28.880
Now, a man named our Java
heater I was married to a woman

564
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named Chetni Kobayashi who was new Japanese
national citizen and spoke fluent Japanese and knew

565
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:39.920
a lot of the original people in
the Ghakai, which was the organization that

566
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:45.000
he had started, and so she
introduced our Java to them, and then

567
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:51.519
from that he learned about healing.
And so he uncovered a lot of interesting

568
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:58.000
techniques that Takada me have alluded to
but didn't formally teach. And so one

569
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:06.639
of them was called josin scan and
the bosen bio means places where the person

570
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:10.320
needs raiky there's something not quite right
there, and send his place so place

571
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.840
that needs raiky And so then he
learned how to do this, and then

572
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:21.719
so he I learned from him this
formal method called biosin scanning, where you

573
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stop start the head above the crown, and you put all of your awareness

574
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.840
in the palm and I'm doing it
on myself, but you would do it

575
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:31.840
on another person. And then you
slowly come down the front and anywhere you

576
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:37.400
feel a change in the surface of
your palm, that's where the person needs

577
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:40.480
raiki, and so then you stop. Then you find the right distance above

578
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:45.280
them and you place your hands there, both hands over the person, and

579
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:50.079
then you will treat that that area
and then you rescan it to see how

580
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:53.519
you're doing. And what usually happens
is the hand gets closer and closer to

581
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:58.760
the body until finally it's touching,
and then there's a feeling like that's complete,

582
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.079
and then you go down and find
an other spot. So that's called

583
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:06.159
bison scanning. And you can do
a whole treatment with just biosen and treat

584
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.559
all the places where you're guided to
get reiki. Yeah, that's great,

585
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:14.119
Thank you for that. UM.
I want to talk briefly about the various

586
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:20.800
conditions. Now. Because of the
FDA and various rules in the in America

587
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.519
and probably in other parts of the
world, you're not allowed to say it

588
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:30.239
heals anything as a practitioner. Uh, we just say we can. You

589
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:38.000
know, we assist various health conditions. But when I was working in uh

590
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:44.440
in Woodside, California with doctor Reverend
Beth Gray, she had a clinic and

591
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:49.079
we worked with people with cancer.
At that time's AIDS was was a big

592
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:53.960
deal. We had people come in
with AIDS and various degenerative diseases and even

593
00:52:54.360 --> 00:53:01.880
you know flu and so talk a
little bit about its ability to promote wellness.

594
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:08.039
Well, we know that the body
already has an immune system that keeps

595
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:14.559
the body healthy, and I believe
one of the ways we could understand RAKI

596
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:20.199
is to see that the immune system
is enhanced by the ranky energy and then

597
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:25.519
it expands its ability to heal the
body and gives it a higher level of

598
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:30.880
awareness and so forth. And that's
one of the ways we can explain how

599
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:37.679
RAKI works. That the person's own
immune system and healing processes are like supercharged,

600
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.199
you know, they can do a
much higher level and then they go

601
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:44.760
ahead and do the healing. So
that's one of the ways that I think

602
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:51.039
Rayki has explained. Another way is
to say that there is a higher there

603
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:57.599
are higher dimensions of consciousness, and
some feel that the material world is being

604
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:02.800
manifested from these higher dimensions, and
that reiki works on these higher dimensions where

605
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:07.320
which is more of the origin of
any sort of illness or a problem,

606
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:12.480
and then heals them. And then
the result is then that the physical body

607
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:17.920
is healed. So there is the
concept of reiki energy. And you mentioned

608
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:23.639
the word entry energy before, and
it's like reiki energy that. Of course,

609
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:28.639
it hasn't been detected as far as
I know in my research, there's

610
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:31.159
no instrument that actually can detect reiki. Yeah. I was going to ask

611
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:36.559
you if they have done some scans
on somebody before or after a reiki treatment

612
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.320
and they were able to see that
the energies were you know, I mean,

613
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:43.239
I don't think we have a technology
that can measure that right now,

614
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.519
That's what we were looking for.
So we went to the Script's Institute in

615
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:52.920
Lahoyo, California. They have what's
called a superconducting quantum interference device, which

616
00:54:53.000 --> 00:55:02.519
is it's actually a super cooled electromagnet
that can det really really weak electromagnetic fields.

617
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:07.280
And we thought, ah, reiki
might be electromagnetism, and so we

618
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:10.119
went there. We did a lot
of work, but we couldn't we weren't

619
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:14.920
able to They weren't able to use
their instrument to discover reky. You know,

620
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.079
like when we turned our reky on, they couldn't sense it, that

621
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:22.280
nothing happened with their instruments. So
we had to let go of that idea

622
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:28.320
that it's electromagnetic and it's some other
type of energy apparently. So um,

623
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:34.559
yeah, it's it's very mysterious.
One of my theories or ideas is that

624
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:39.599
it is actually a different new energy
that science has not yet discovered, and

625
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:46.679
that someday they will and so that's
a little controversial, but that's what I

626
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:52.079
feel. But don't you think that, William, don't you think that this

627
00:55:52.199 --> 00:56:00.000
is a technique that earlier people may
have discovered in using called it a different

628
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:10.320
name, because it seems to me
that it is innate in our as a

629
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:15.880
as a human physical being, that
this is one of the gifts that were

630
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:22.719
given to be human and it must
have been around by other names earlier.

631
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:29.559
Oh certainly. Yeah, I think
that what happened is in ancient times it

632
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:35.480
was noted that some individuals had a
natural ability as healers, and then they

633
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:39.440
could do this kind of work.
And in fact, there is research that

634
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:46.039
shows. In China, they developed
they had different tribes that would some of

635
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:49.639
them were friendly, but a lot
of them had warfare with each other,

636
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:54.880
and they developed that developed into the
martial arts, and that martial arts they

637
00:56:54.880 --> 00:57:00.239
developed the idea of key and then
they developed ways of enhancing it and they

638
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:07.079
also as a side benefit, they
could do healing with it and so um,

639
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:12.760
that's one school sets that healing.
This type of healing energy, the

640
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:16.159
awareness of it came through martial arts, and then there were some schools that

641
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:23.000
focus more on just the healing.
And in Chinese, the kanji for reiki

642
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:30.760
is pronounced as ling chi and so
um, and that goes back to at

643
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:36.760
least sixteen hundred BC. The use
of that term leaking fascinating. Yeah,

644
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:42.639
yeah, as the same as the
kanji for reiki so um. So yeah,

645
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:46.880
there's an interesting history around that,
and then it went from China.

646
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:52.480
The use of that kanji went was
in China first, and then in around

647
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:55.800
four hundred BC it got to Korea
and four hundred and eighty it got to

648
00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:00.480
Japan. So in Japan that's when
they first started using the kanji for reiki

649
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:07.519
around four so it kind of had
a path of migration. I guess you'd

650
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:16.480
say, okay, So Hayashi has
his clinic in Walks an unwell woman one

651
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:23.440
of his patients, and that her
name was Kwaio Takata, who I believe

652
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:28.159
you tell the story of her.
What was her condition when she came in

653
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:35.000
well, she had gone prior to
that to a regular medical clinic, and

654
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:39.559
she had asthma, she had a
pendicitis and she had an ulcer, and

655
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:44.599
so they were going to operate and
imagine maybe on the pendicitis, and a

656
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:49.159
voice spoke to her and said,
you do not need this operation. But

657
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.960
she wasn't psychic, and so this
was so strange, which about the room

658
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.039
and then yeah, she didn't know
what it was. And it spoke again

659
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.840
very clearly, and she asked,
the doctor, is a way I got?

660
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:00.599
The way I can be healed without
an operation? He says, oh,

661
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:04.960
yes, he knew. Doctor Hayashi
said you can go to doctor Hayashi's

662
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.320
clinic. He can heal you without
an operation. So she went there,

663
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:10.480
not knowing that it was a spiritual
healing, think it was going to be

664
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:15.199
a regular operation. She was on
a table, there were two practitioners.

665
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:17.760
They had their hands on her she
could feel heat and vibration, and she

666
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:22.519
just thought there must be some equipment
involved with this or something because it was

667
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:27.920
so strong. And then she noticed
there wasn't any equipment anywhere, and then

668
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.239
she starts she had the kimodo sleeves. The practitioners, ah, there must

669
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.840
be batteries, so she starts grabbing
the sleeves. Where is the equipment?

670
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:37.360
Where is it? And then Hyashi
walks in, kind of laughing and explains

671
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.519
to her this is a spiritual healing. There's no equipment, and she just

672
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:45.599
that's fascinating to her, but it
was working, so she continued and then

673
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:52.000
she was completely healed of her conditions. Do you know how many visits to

674
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:57.119
the clinic she had to take to
be completely free of her problems? Well,

675
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.960
I don't know the number, but
it was four months. Oh so

676
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.760
she had a pretty chronic problem.
Yeah, it took four months of continuous

677
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:10.760
treatments and she was healed. And
then also I'm not sure when she began

678
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:15.039
her training, but she did learn
what's called shojin, which is level one

679
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:22.079
and ohuden level two, and she
learned part of the shimpijin and so in

680
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:30.440
Japan, fascinating okay So. Takada
is unique for Americans because she was a

681
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:37.119
Hawaiian Japanese woman born on Hawaii.
Once she was trained as one of the

682
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:45.320
masters by Hayashi, she came to
the United States and began teaching and ultimately

683
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:52.159
trained twenty two. She initiated twenty
two people. What do we know about

684
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:59.519
about Takada? Why was she unique? Yeah, well, what happened was

685
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:05.280
she uh, I actually didn't get
her full mastership until she went to Hawaii

686
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:08.920
and then coerced or got got how
I actually to come to Hawaii and then

687
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:12.639
give, you know, go around
teaching. Then she got her full mastership

688
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:16.119
after that. But what was fortunate
or unfortunate, I don't know. You

689
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:21.119
look at it different ways, but
she did this before World War two broke

690
01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:25.800
out, and then after that then
what happened is of course Japanese, the

691
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:30.639
Japanese loss, the US took over
and they declared that anything that had to

692
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:36.079
do with healing had to have a
license. And so then the Gaki which

693
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.840
was the organization is who he started, decided they didn't want to have anything

694
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:45.000
to do with licensing, so they
became a secret organization and Raki disappeared from

695
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:50.400
Japan. This is after the war, after World War two. Yeah,

696
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:55.360
they forty six, nineteen forty six, Yeah, like that time. But

697
01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:00.920
Takada had already learned it and got
out of Japan before that, So then

698
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:09.280
she became the only openly practicing teacher
and practitioner in the world, and so

699
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:13.840
she got it out. Now,
if that had not happened, most likely

700
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:17.480
it never would have gotten out.
It would have probably remained secret the whole

701
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.280
time. But because Sakai was practicing
like that, then she made a few

702
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:28.880
visits back to Japan and it became
known about Raiki and so forth, but

703
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:34.039
the Ghakai remained secret for some time. Yeah. I think we should also

704
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:42.320
mention that Yashi was so upset about
the war that he committed suicide because he

705
01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:45.719
didn't want to be drafted. Well, yeah, something like that. What

706
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:52.960
happened was that he did have some
military training and he went to Hawaii and

707
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:57.840
was you know, we're here with
Takada and training, doing classes. So

708
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:02.320
it came back to Japan and then
the Japanese are planning to attack Pearl Harbor

709
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:07.639
and they're saying, oh, Hayashi, tell us where are the good targets,

710
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:09.320
Where are the warehouses. Where can
we kill them? Oh my god,

711
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:15.440
Yeah, Yashi says, I'm sorry, but I cannot tell you because

712
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:19.079
I was just in Hawaii. I
healed, I was healing these people.

713
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:22.880
I love them. I cannot share
this information and help you kill them.

714
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:30.480
So then he lost face, which
means that he became some like blackballed,

715
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.480
where no one would speak to him, and that was for him and his

716
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:39.000
whole family. And so the only
thing that would save him his honor was

717
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:44.880
ritual suicide. So there's a certain
thing in Japan at that time where if

718
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:49.719
you lost your honor, you could
die an honorable person by committing this special

719
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:53.519
type of suicide, which he did, and in the eyes of the Japanese

720
01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:57.320
that was honorable. There was nothing
wrong with it. In fact, that

721
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:01.000
was the right thing to do.
So he did the ritual suicide and died.

722
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:06.119
I was always amazed at that story. Yeah, that is unfortunate.

723
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:12.159
But then Takata went back for the
funeral that this is Hyashi, and then

724
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:17.239
they started talking about Raiki and then
organized that Takana would teach in Hawaii and

725
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:24.159
this is Hayashi would teach in Japan. So um, they you know,

726
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:30.039
that's how things got going after Hayashi
passed on, and Hyashi comes to the

727
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:41.239
United States and begins teaching and also
training masters. Those masters were spreading out

728
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:45.320
through the rest of the world,
and that's pretty much. Well, Hyashi

729
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:54.000
is responsible for training a few people, but mainly it was Takata that trained

730
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.039
the master. I meant to say, Takata excuse me, Yeah, that

731
01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:01.599
Takata's came to the United States and
yeah, and so that's how it spread,

732
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:05.559
right, that's right. So she
learned around. She went to Japan

733
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:12.000
thirty six, became a master in
thirty eight, and then she began teaching

734
01:05:12.239 --> 01:05:19.440
and practicing, but she only taught
up to level two until nineteen seventy.

735
01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:26.000
Yeah, and then in between nineteen
seventy and nineteen eighty she taught the twenty

736
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:32.280
two masters. And very interestingly,
a man named Robert Houston was a member

737
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:39.760
of the the raiky Alliance and he
interviewed all the masters that were still living

738
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:44.800
at Takata Train. What he found
was, up until the middle of seventy

739
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:48.000
five, none of them had the
master's symbol, and after the middle of

740
01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:54.719
seventy five, all of them had
a master symbol. So from that we

741
01:05:54.880 --> 01:06:00.079
know also that Assui and Hayashi didn't
have use a master symbol. They only

742
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:04.159
had three symbols, which were the
level two symbols, and then the master

743
01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:09.400
symbol appeared around the middle of seventy
five. So although there's no record and

744
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:13.159
kind of didn't mention anything, we
know from the wreck, you know the

745
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:17.639
looking at doctor, you know the
time period that she added the master symbol

746
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:20.920
around the middle of seventy five.
Okay, now I want to bring that

747
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:27.719
up now. So Ricky isn't really
it's three parts. There's level one,

748
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:31.880
level two, and then there's the
master level. We talked about Level one,

749
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:39.000
which is simply being attuned and you
can you can treat yourself, you

750
01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:45.159
can treat somebody else, and that
also includes animals. Um Level two is

751
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:50.679
unique because this is where we're getting
into distant healing and you're using a proxy

752
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:58.199
in your in your your healing with
the symbology. And talk a little bit

753
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:04.880
about this. And by the way, way, William does a sue present

754
01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:11.599
his students with these symbols in the
very beginning or do they come later?

755
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.440
Well, yeah, that's a good
question because I just went to a Ricky

756
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:19.400
conference in Japan and got to meet
some of the you know, very serious

757
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:26.000
researchers, many of them you know, fluent in Japanese. And what they

758
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:35.880
are saying is that a sue only
had the distant symbol. That's all distant

759
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:43.239
symbol. And then it was afterwards
the gaki, the organizations he started where

760
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:46.719
the two um the choko rean sayy
were added by them. That's what they're

761
01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:51.760
saying. And one of them,
Justin Stein, is coming out with a

762
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:58.280
book in September where he's going to
explain the origin of this information. And

763
01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:04.760
he did some very intense research around
the practice of reiki. And so that's

764
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:09.039
something that was new to me that
I didn't understand. I didn't know about

765
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:13.440
it. It's so amazing that this
is coming up. So what happens in

766
01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:15.920
level two is you don't have to
have somebody in front of you. You

767
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:23.880
can take a you have a photograph
of them, and you close your eyes,

768
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:29.840
and this is part level two.
You imagine them, you bring them

769
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:34.800
in to a to your presence.
We were not going to get into the

770
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:42.079
details about that. And then you
use this amazing symbology. And I want

771
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:45.039
you to talk a little bit about
what the symbology does to my thinking William.

772
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:51.079
It brings in the energy of the
person, their essence and then allows

773
01:08:51.119 --> 01:09:03.119
you to work reiki treatment in your
presence. Yeah, so the distance symbol

774
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:08.520
is what allows that, and it's
like forms of bridge between you and the

775
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:12.520
person. So it transcends time and
space, right, So it allows you

776
01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:16.079
to send raky to a person anywhere
on the planet in theory, they could

777
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:19.279
be an orbit or on another planet
or another part of the universe in theory,

778
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:24.680
so you could send you know,
if you think there's aliens somewhere out

779
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:29.119
there, you could send the raki. But I don't know if anyone really

780
01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:32.640
does that. But so yeah,
the distance symbol transcends time and space,

781
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:39.319
so you can go actually anyone anywhere
in the world. Or you can also

782
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.840
go into the future and set up
a treatment for some event that you know

783
01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:45.880
is going to take place in the
future, and you go into the past

784
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:50.159
to something that happened in accident or
someone unfortunate event in the past and send

785
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:55.000
it to the past as well.
So the distance symbol can do that.

786
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:59.600
And then we've got the other symbol
choke array that increases the strength of the

787
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:03.680
rake and then to say haiki,
which is we're used for emotional healing.

788
01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:10.039
So um, so again, he
may have already explained this to me.

789
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:16.920
Did was this transmuted or transmission to
a sue on the hill on the mountain

790
01:10:17.720 --> 01:10:24.000
or was this a transmission to him
as he began to receive more of this

791
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:30.600
energy? And obviously, and this
is what's so amazing about raiki is this

792
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:39.039
distant healing is brilliant and it seems
ancient to me. And to use this

793
01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:45.159
symbol is fascinating because who cares about
a symbol? But no, there's something

794
01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:53.439
about our reality that takes the energy
of that symbol and it activates energetic energetics.

795
01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:56.720
Right, yeah, talk about talk
about what you could feel on that

796
01:10:56.720 --> 01:11:01.399
one. Yeah. Well, actually, in shamanism, after years of training,

797
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:08.640
a healer does gain the ability to
send reiki well healing at a distance,

798
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:12.800
but they have to meditate in a
more or less rise up and consciousness

799
01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:15.760
to a much higher level and then
they can do that, but it takes

800
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:19.920
years of training. But with reiki, you get level two, you're given

801
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:24.680
the symbol, you can do it
immediately right in class you can start doing

802
01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:29.680
it. So I think that's the
beauty of reiki is that it's like an

803
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:35.920
instant initiation and you actually receive or
are your energy field is enhanced to be

804
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:40.119
able to do reiki first of all, and then to send it at a

805
01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:45.319
distance or to increase the strength or
to treat the emotional issues. So the

806
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:53.199
symbols there bless you with this ability
without having to take years of training to

807
01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:56.800
acquire the ability. Yeah, so
it's a it's a yeah. It cut

808
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:00.640
to the chase on us to speak
talk world quickly as our time is getting

809
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:05.840
or short in our time. About
self healing by giving a treatment, I've

810
01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:13.920
always been told that you receive the
energy as well as transit transmitting it to

811
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:19.000
the recipient. Yeah, there is
some healing that takes place for the practitioners.

812
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:24.000
So while you're giving a treatment,
you yourself also feel better. So

813
01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:28.119
it's quite an incentive that you know, to give it. Someone wants riki

814
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:31.359
go sure, because you yourself feel
better when you're actually giving reiki, So

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instead of you using your own energy
and feeling weaker, actually you feel better

816
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:42.000
when you give reiki. So that's
it shows that it's operating at a much

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higher level. Do you think this
is one of these gifts to humanity that

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is recovered by a sui and that
there are some new levels that are yet

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to be found. What do you
say? I think so that the some

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of the research I've done is that
he did go to China prior to discovering

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reiki, and that in China they
did have what I was saying was lying

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chi, which is a type of
reiki, and they also had tibet we're

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called empowerments, which are like attunements. And so this is a hypothesis that

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we don't know for sure, but
he may have encountered some of this in

825
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:29.840
his travels and that may have given
the idea of using that for reiki,

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because he introduced this in September of
nineteen twenty three. That's when he introduced

827
01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:42.000
the symbols and the attunement, and
so prior to that he didn't have that.

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So there was progressive. He had
one experience on the mountain and he

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got the energy, and then there
was what's called the Great count earthquake and

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tsunami, and there was a lot
of need for healing, much greater needs.

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So he said a prayer asking for
help in training. So he got

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01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:03.880
the symbols, he got the ability
to do attunements. At that time,

833
01:14:04.359 --> 01:14:11.000
so he had two experiences and of
this enlightening energy coming in to give him

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these abilities. Fantastic, William,
It's been a real pleasure of speaking with

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you. This has been fun.
How can people learn about reiki? Give

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01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:27.920
him? Give us your website and
anything you want to present on training.

837
01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:31.880
Sure. Yeah. The website is
a very simple reiki dot org. So

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01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:38.399
r ei ki dot org. Let's
our website. Go there. We've got

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a thousand web pages and we show
all about reiki and the history and everything.

840
01:14:43.159 --> 01:14:45.760
And to learn it, it requires
you to take a class. Can

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01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:50.640
now it's being taught online or in
person, and so it'd be like a

842
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:56.680
two day class for the basic beginning
class and a three day class to become

843
01:14:56.680 --> 01:15:01.359
a teacher. We require people to
practice for six months or more before they

844
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:06.039
go to the teacher level. That
we also have manuals workbooks that come with

845
01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:12.399
the class and the training, a
separate workprop preached level, and you're allowed

846
01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:19.239
to take notes, and you know, we have support groups and things like

847
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:23.680
that to help people and we encourage. We really want people to do well,

848
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:30.000
so we supply them with whatever we
can to help them become practitioners or

849
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:33.079
teachers. So I'm curious, you
know, I was going to ask you

850
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:38.439
when we before we started, what
were you doing during the pandemic when people

851
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:44.119
couldn't meet? Can you actually train
somebody via Zoom like we're doing talking right

852
01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:47.079
now. Yeah, that's a good
thing. Yeah, what happened is that

853
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:53.199
now. See, one of the
things that I do is I was working

854
01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:59.640
with the Cahuna and he was giving
me inspiration and different healings and things and

855
01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:01.840
these had. What you need to
do if you want to do well is

856
01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:06.520
always have a clairvoyant healer that you
work with that you've meditated asked to be,

857
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:11.079
you know, fine, that will
help you with your own healing.

858
01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:15.560
So I was working with someone that
happened to be a Ricky Master also,

859
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:20.520
and during the pandemic we kind of
meditated together and work with our guides,

860
01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:27.640
and they said that they foresaw the
pandemic coming and they were making changes in

861
01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:32.159
our uric field so we'd be able
to teach online. And they further refined

862
01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:35.840
that and understanding he said, well, there are guides that develop the Zoom

863
01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:43.279
technology, and the Riky Guides and
the guides for the Zoom technology got together

864
01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:47.399
and formulated the special energy that could
be you know, projected through the Zoom

865
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:55.800
technology. So I love those stories. Yeah, and so high that guy.

866
01:16:55.920 --> 01:17:00.439
Yeah, that's so they kind of
put that all together. So I

867
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:02.600
didn't even miss a beat. It
was my next class. I was able

868
01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:06.720
to do it online, and I
was amazed that it actually worked. And

869
01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:13.399
the students were all Raky masters,
so they were already familiar with the energy

870
01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:15.319
and they said, oh, yeah, this is working. We can confirm

871
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:18.199
that this works. Since well,
that was my question to you. Have

872
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:24.359
you met anybody that you trained on
the Zoom to see how their hands feel,

873
01:17:27.159 --> 01:17:30.079
you mean like afterwards, yeah,
I mean after their training, and

874
01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:32.600
you're like, well, I've been
told this is gonna work. Fine,

875
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:36.479
we're gonna have a Zoom act specialists
come through and blah blah blah. But

876
01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:43.560
obviously, if if you're you know, you're testing somebody to see how how

877
01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:49.359
much what they feel. Well,
to some extent myself, but more so

878
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:55.560
the students already soon they were Raky
practitioners and masters, and they took the

879
01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:59.479
Zoom training and they confirmed that,
yeah, we are very happy with this

880
01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:01.800
cloud. We're happy we took it. Confidently, it took place. It's

881
01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:06.119
happening. So Um, I'm always
going for the imperial you know, like,

882
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:11.039
um, evidence, how are you
evidence about? It does work?

883
01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:15.680
So we confirmed that through you know, working with people and asking them what

884
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:19.600
their experience was, and they all
were very happy and UM is happening.

885
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:25.199
Yeah, I love it, William, thank you very much. Really enjoyed

886
01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:32.079
the presentation in your knowledge um and
and I uh, I hope those are

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01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:36.199
the of you that are listening.
Consider this technique. I have used it

888
01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:44.399
on my loved ones, on my
animals, and on myself for years and

889
01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:47.359
it's a wonderful technique and I can't
I just can't get enough of it.

890
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:53.319
If you were to speculate, William, what the future holds for Ricky,

891
01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:56.680
what would you say? Would you
say the energy is going to be amplified.

892
01:18:56.840 --> 01:18:59.079
You think there's going to be a
new ability that's going to happen.

893
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:01.720
What are you into it? Well, our experiences that it has been getting

894
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:06.159
stronger, and I'm certain it just
feels like it's just going to keep going

895
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:13.119
and that technically there's no limit to
what can be done. So we're very

896
01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:15.399
curious about as time goes by,
what people would be able to do,

897
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:20.079
and it's just limited to by the
individual and the type of healing it takes

898
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:24.600
place for them in terms of what
they're able to channel, and that there

899
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:29.680
are ever higher frequencies that are possible. Fantastic, Hey, thank you.

900
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:33.159
I really appreciate it and I'm definitely
gonna check out your website. Thanks,

901
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:42.560
clif Yeah, very good. That
was fun talking to William about raiki.

902
01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:48.920
You know, I haven't talked to
anybody about raiki in honestly, probably ten

903
01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:56.520
years, simply because it's very private
and there aren't you know. I mean,

904
01:19:56.640 --> 01:20:00.359
there's probably a meetup group here in
the Bay areas, Cisco Bay area,

905
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:06.640
and I remember years ago going to
one that I discovered, but I

906
01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:11.079
don't know. I just for some
reason, I haven't talked about it very

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01:20:11.119 --> 01:20:14.720
often. So it's good to talk. It's good to talk to him.

908
01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:20.000
It's good to get clarity on certain
things. And his website at the International

909
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:25.319
Center for Ricky Training, they have
a lot of books that I'm curious about,

910
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:29.960
especially the translation of writing of a
Suey students. That sounds fascinating to

911
01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:32.439
get to know that material. So
so I'll be buying a few books,

912
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:39.600
Yes, I will looking forward to
that. Hey, I want to remind

913
01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:44.319
you We have a tour coming up
in the fall. It is our regular

914
01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:50.239
Mexico tour. It's the ancient Maya
of Tabasco and Chopists. It's November tenth

915
01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:56.039
through the seventeenth of this year.
We all meet at Verahrmosa, which is

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01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:03.239
in Mexico, and really it's a
short tour. We usually do two weeks.

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01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:09.960
This is only seven days and it's
the first day we are checking out

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01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:14.319
Levente, which is one of the
oldest Olmec cities in the world. It

919
01:21:14.439 --> 01:21:19.319
also includes a visit to the Leventa
Open Air Olmec Museum, which I've been

920
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:25.239
wanting to go to for years because
they have all these outdoor sculptures which are

921
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:29.239
really critical, really fun to check
out. Then we visit the city of

922
01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:35.279
Leventa. The next day we get
on the bus are heading to Polank and

923
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:39.279
I haven't been have never been to
Polank. I'm looking forward to that.

924
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:43.439
That's one of the great cities of
the Maya. And our host for this

925
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:49.760
entire tour is doctor Edwin Barnhard.
He is a mayanist and archaeologist and just

926
01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:54.279
having him along it is gonna be
fun. For more information on this tour,

927
01:21:54.760 --> 01:22:00.319
go to Earth Ancients dot Com Forward
slash Tours and check out the ry

928
01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:04.439
we give the entire program. Get
your deposited. We're about halfway full.

929
01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:09.159
Check out a tour with us.
You'll have a blast. We really do

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01:22:09.600 --> 01:22:15.439
have fun and they're very light and
informative. They're just a blast. For

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01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:24.520
more information or the Ancients dot com
Forward slash Tours. All right, that's

932
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:29.039
it for this program. I want
to thank my guest today, William Rand,

933
01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:33.880
President of the Ricky Association. As
always, the team of Ruth Thomas,

934
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:39.560
Mark Foster and everyone who makes this
thing happen. Thank you, my

935
01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:43.760
friends. All right, take care
of you, will and we will see

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01:22:43.800 --> 01:22:44.560
you next time.