Mmm, Hello, it is Tuesday, January at twenty twenty fifteen. It's
a momentous day. One twenty bro, it's a momentous day in the history
one twenty Yeah, spark up an episode of the Giant Bomb cast. Right,
and there we are if three time zones away. You know what I'm
saying, month time, month zones, three month zones from here. It's
it's a little hazy weather one month. I got a weather warning. What
if metric? Yeah, exactly like swatch month time is very cool. Carry
your umbrella. It's gonna get yep. It's a you know, like a
turned up Oh okay, before turned up? Was turned up? Is it
come from like hype? Yeah? You could get HIPI Okay, it's time
to get Hiphi. Also you could get cans of Hi Fi. They made
an energy drink called HIPI. You made that. I don't know that anyone,
no one. I don't know if anyone in the notes. No body
takes responsibility. Yeah, a robot generated Hypie energy drink. It appeared.
Yeah, market research. The grape one was all right, actually, like
the main flavor was grape apple. The name of the drink, the grape
one, the grape one. No, it should be Prince made that.
Instead it was Alexander the grape and then they got sued. Prince should have
made an energy drink. Is Little John's drink still available? Crunk juice?
Yeah? No, no, I don't well, I don't. I shouldn't
say for sure, but I don't think it is. I think I kicked
on microphone corps. Yeah, we're in the studio. Yeah, like we're
in the studio. Studio. Yeah, so we might sound different. Huddle
around this little table, hiny little table here, still big enough to accommodate
four people, that's right, little big enough to accommodate Drew scandal and stand
here standing everything at the end of the tables. Its great with I'm just
gonna take a picture right now. This is live photography happening. Wow,
as we speak. You can just take a picture. It ain't like the
old days, is it. You gotta get your flash powder out, yep,
snap these shots? Do I want to hdr it? I don't know.
Wait nine months for it to develop. Whatever the hell happened with old
timey photos. There's a picture that might go on the internet. Take a
picture of the two of us standing in front of the clock towers. It's
being christened and then there you go, I'm guilty of it. Now,
Happy New Year, and it's in twenty one. Congratulations. Like you know,
now, I have talked about Back to the Future in the year of
Back to the Future, just like every other assure though fair enough, okay,
yeah, I'm ahead of the curves behind like you would. You would
be super trendy to like Back to the Future three, the one that people
don't like. It was okay, whatever, but ter fine, like you
know, but of the three top spun their guitars and they were in old
timy times. True, there's nothing wrong with Back to the Future three with
some people hate too. Some people see it as like the Temple of Doom
of that, and I don't agree at it all. Two's a little all
over the place. I like to see the future, so I like the
future, Biff. Yeah, it's a great character of future. Maybe all
run like it's they're they're all the on the same level, like one movie
to me, because like I as a kid, I just saw them all
at the same time. Oh wow, you know as a kid, you
don't you can't tell things are good bad. See For me, it was
like I remember there being a significant well I mean compared to two and three,
like you know, the distance, like when one was over, you
weren't necessarily sure that they were actually going to make another one. Yeah,
it's not like they wrote well, I mean maybe they hope for a sequel,
but it's not like they wrote one assuming there would be a sequel.
No, that's why that was just a standbond kind of cool. They we've
really well and that was the thing as a kid looking back, like you
know, you didn't know what about any of the like, oh, they
shot two and three at the same time, and I actually very much new.
So it's like you were old enough to know that a year apart was
like a matrix sequels thing. Yeah, we didn't didn't tune three come out
very close together. Yeah, that was the idea. Yeah, I didn't
like three, like nineteen ninety ish, I don't know, is that right.
There's early nineties. Oh yeah, spaghetti westerns for sure, like Clintstwood
stuff. Yeah, yeah, it could bend the seen a lot of this.
They're good. Yeah, yeah, yeah for a few dollars more is
I actually like more than good? He goes fistful of dollars, a few
dollars more good Bed and the Ugly Yep, that's the Man with No Name
trilogy I've got always Are those all like that? Is that a chronology?
Are those the same characters? I mean, it's the Man with No Name.
It's basically supposed to kind of be the same guy. There's no overt
connection. You just kind of like it's like the Zelda series. There's nothing.
There's nothing that that's the explicitly shows that they aren't the same guy,
right, except of the one where there was young Clint Eastwood and then at
adult Clint Eastwood. An adult Clint Eastwood could push the blocks and then young
what could write? Of course? Of course you know they've got the mirror
shield. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had those those metal boots on.
Yep, it made it really hard to walk. I want to say,
Levan Cleeve might play different characters, and a couple of them, so,
I mean, they don't feel a sequels. You can watch me in
whatever order you want. They all make sense. Okay, it's much cool
guys shooting each other. I had never seen a Tombstone. That's finally watched
it a few months ago. It's pretty good. Thinks a little over hyped.
It's good. It's it's pretty good. Kurt Russell in it. I
mean, it's great. Have you seen Unforgiven? I don't think I've seen
Young Guns? How about Young Guns too? Unforgiven is serious? Can I
spoil I'm Forgiven? No, you cannot. That movie is I mean,
the plot of that movie can be explained in like two sentences. And it's
the best. Just let him watch it. Oh, it's so good.
That is an Academy Award nominated in film. I kept seeing The Untouchables thinking
it was Unforgiven. Those are totally different, I know, Yeah, but
there are both you words about the same length yep from the same time.
Confused. Isn't Gene Hackman in that? And Unforgiven? Yeah? Don't.
Yeah, he's something. He has a total The rails of the boat were
gold painted. What I don't remember that? I don't know. That's the
only Gene Hackman stuff I know. All right, Welcome to the giant cinema
cast. I watched a couple of bad movies against Yeah, I did too,
Yeah, what do you watch? I watched Air Force one on you
said bad movies. The only thing bad about that is the CG plane crashing
at the end. Which one is air Force one? Harrison Ford is the
president Okay, yeah, the old man is the bad guy. Yeah,
Kurt Russell in executive decision. Okay, that great, get off his plane.
Yes, I very much enjoy Air Force One. We then watched Congo.
Congo is BA, which is a bad move. Congo is a bad
movie. Great book. It was a good Taco Bell tie in the volcano
menu? What was the volcano burrito? What spicier food? Okay, I
can see where that would I don't know if that was actually tied in with
Congo or not. I think it was. But is there even a volcano
in Congo? Oh? Yes, it ties in very significantly to the end
of the movie. Well, great, good to know Amy and whatnot?
Hello, Hi fucking Congo? Yep, God damn Bruce Campbell in that Yep?
Okay, but what doesn't Bruce Cambell Campbell is great? Do you guys
do you guys have like that that weird love? Like do you guys like
really like Bruce Campbell? Like man, Bruce Campbell, He's the best.
I mean, like I don't want to see him in everything ever. He
feel like real. Well, he's like a certain like type of person that
is just like this, like undying Bruce Campbell fan. I never understood it.
Yeah, I mean he was pretty great back in the nineties. Great,
Yes, he was the right guy. Didn't say I didn't see those
movies in the heat of the moment, so coming to him later and I
was like, okay, yeah, I understand. Like I didn't. I
didn't even know what Evil Dead was, and I just went to see Army
of Darkness in the theater because I looked dumb, right, and it was
fucking amazing. Yeah, and then I went back and watched Evil Dead too,
and yeah, you know, easy to develop an affinity for the guys,
and that's how you're introduced to that. So he choose some good scenes
in burn Notice. Yeah, No, I think he's great and burn Notice,
Yeah, I wish that I watched more burn Notice. Like he's great
because he's so self aware, like he knows exactly who and what he is.
But I think the people like movies. We got him out. We've
got to go see Bubba Hotel because man, BC is in it, you
know, like, Nope, the movies kind of whatever. That movie tried
way too hard. That was the moment with the JFK thing, right,
it's been there fighting. Yeah, I didn't like that one. What bad
movies did you watch? Dan? I watched Grown Ups too. Oh God,
let's show what are you starting a podcast? We were talking about expanding
our podcast line up. This is not the way I give me your thirty
second summary. We're not getting into the business of competing podcasts here. Okay.
The first thing that happens is Adam Sandler and Samahayak wake up in bed
and a deer is in their bedroom and it peas all over them. It
gets scared and goes up on hind legs and just peas all over both of
them. And then the deer runs in the bathroom and Adam Sandler's sun is
showering and the deer peas all over him. Other guns like promising start,
other gags involved hot young, hot young comic Colin Quinn. Now, can
we replace the deer with Already? Would that make it a better movie?
Yeah? Probably? Okay, that's dirty works. Yeah basically, which is
a great movie, which, yeah, no problem. Can we get Already
laying in this movie before he dies tragically? Probably? Not? Also,
the only movie I've seen that stars both Steve Bashimi and Stone Cold Steve Boston.
So there's that, Well then you haven't seen. Yeah, it's a
terrible movie. Ben Hanson my friend from Gameingformers in town, and so we
just got a little drunk and watched that whole movie and we listened to some
of that podcast afterwards. I think it was you, Brad that told me
about it the worst idea of all time podcasts. And yeah, I don't
know how they do it. They're on episode like forty six or something.
Now I think they're gonna end it at fifty two. It was like it's
a one year challenge. Yeah, it is a miserable movie. There's not
a single funny thing that happens in it, and it made two hundred and
forty seven million dollars. Talk to Matt Rory about the fun Growing Ups franchise
sometime. Oh really he will. He'll have some things to say, Okay
to you, it's about grown ups. There's a scene where Colin quinns working
at an ice cream store and he's trying to fix the machine, but the
chocolate keeps coming out, and so it looks like it's poop coming out of
his butt and everyone standing at the end line is laughing at Colin Quinn.
Some good stuff, right for Colin. The only time anyone will ever laugh
at col Quinn. I like Tough Crowd, Remote Control was good. Yeah.
I saw some stand up specially he did recently and it was just store.
I always have a tough spot for Colin Quinn because anyone that followed Norm
McDonald's on Weekend Update after he got fired, I was destined to hate anyone
that followed Norm and it was Colin Quinn and he was one of the worst,
is he. I haven't seen that thing. Colin Quinn approached the Weekend
Update, approached the desk with this like this like really appropriate level of not
giving a fuck. I actually liked ye, Like he was just like fucking
just going through the jokes like he you know, the jokes were so brain
days. This happened to this happened. Yes there's a joke, all right,
here's the next joke. Here go next joke. I think the only
things that ever made me laugh about his time on the Weekend up Date was
when Will Ferrell would do the Harry Carey thing and accidentally will not accidentally call
him Norm and get an actual lap out of Collin Quinn. That always cracked
me up. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. But no
one can fall the north indeed. Yeah, all right, Nola the best
Weekend Up Date anchor for sure ever. Charles Rockett, he slid his throat
in a field. What that he's dead? What? He was also the
rich asshole in Dumb and Dummer. I actually don't know who you're talking about.
He said fuck on the air. Charles Rockett was like he was.
Probably it was like early eighties, like the Wow the Arrow when like people
started first running their Saturday Night Dead well, yeah that time when, but
it was like around the Eddie Murphy era. I think probably was around the
Charles Rockets when if Eddie wasn't on the cast, that show would have died.
He was the one thing keeping he was going. But I don't know,
man, I I I go. I think uh. I think Tina
Fey is the best. She's incredible, she's a great ill Like Norm McDonald
just did what Norm McDonald always does, which is the best. Actually ring
he actually didn't actually like, I don't know, Norm McDonald is fine,
but the top tier is Norm Tina Seth Meyers is vastly underrated. He is
great, totally. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't have his own show now.
Yeah, feel like Norm McDonald's whole thing brushes a little too into like
Adam corolla territory for former taste at times. He doesn't get all preachy and
he doesn't get weird, like it brushes up against Corolla's thing occasionally in a
way where I'm just like I thought Norm McDonald had turned in the kind of
a wing nut in recent years. Yeah, he's he's a thinking Rob Schneider,
who is He's like a weird anti vaccer and all that stuff. But
but now Norm's just a very odd, odd guy, Like he stopped drinking.
He hasn't. I think he's been sober for a long time. But
I've seen him live several times and it's just this weird meandering like halfway through
the head he'll be like, ah, what do you guys want to talk
about? Like he seems like he could have, like he could have done
this Letterman thing, like he could have actually like been that type of talk
show host and taking it in like a Letterman direction of kind of not giving
a fuck, Like I think that that would have like it worked or still
could. It does work if you go to Norm McDonald live on YouTube.
It is a fascinating show. It is what you describe. It's him hosting
like you know, a Letterman type thing but not giving a fuck at all
and just bringing on all of his friends. Yeah, but is he's doing
it out of his house like it's it's something like shitty studio or whatever with
like I think is like a a sponsor or something just on YouTube. Yeah,
and it's hilarious. He gets good. Guess the one with the Larry
King is great. One with Billy Bob Thornton's really good. Okay, super
Dave Osborne, that's a great one. I think that whole like you know,
online talk show done by people that you are slightly too big to be
doing an online talk show space is sometimes really interesting. Like I watched a
lot of that Tom Green show. Tom Green was doing stuff out of his
house and and just doing like a straight up late night talk show, like
you know, it's not the Tom Green that's just like fucking rubbing his ass
on ship and whatever. Like you know, there's there's something to Tom Green.
Man. Tom Green, he could actually do a good interview and he's
a credible rapper there. I said, really, check the No Wave hats
that he put on an album with like one of the Dust brothers producing it,
and like it was actually like it's not bad, it's not bad.
Wow, But yes, checked, there's nothing wrong with check the r What
was the name of the groups organized Rhyme? That's that's what. Yeah.
Yeah that's a good name. Yeah, that's a good name for a rapper.
It's good. It's a good name for Tom Green's rapper. Yeah.
Yeah, that's a great name for a Canadian rapper. Yeah. Sure,
he pulls out a good running man in the video. Sure, why not?
When I woke up this morning, the people that I expected to reminisce
about did not include Tom Green. Yeah today? Who is he married to?
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I like Freddy gott Fingered. I remember
all. I remember of it a lot. All I remember that about that
is a deer? Right? Is there a deer deer that urinates the first
scene of the movie Tom Green? And then deer starts peeing and then it's
just a scream from there on out, just NonStop comedy. I remember.
Is the sausages on the piano thing that daddy, would you like? Tom
Green is not is not that that great in it? It's God, I'm
blank on the guy's name. The guy plays his father called character actor like
super like I feel like a fucking idiot for not remembering his name right now,
Oh, character actors are there for you to forget their names. Fair
enough, fair enough, but like he's incredible. Like the interplay between the
two of them and the way it escalates. I think it is actually pretty
well done. And there's just a scene in that movie where Tom Wreens goes,
I got these jewels for you. It just like gives this girl like
there's at least fucking bag of jewelry, like just stones, not rings,
just like here it's a bag of Like it's just fucking stupid. That's a
dumb fucking movie. Man. You want to talk about the trials and tribulations
of the podcast host. Here, I am thinking, I'm just going to
put Colin Quinn in the thumbnail for this thing. And now I have a
decision to make Colin Quinn. Do I go Google Colin Quinn SNL we can
update? Or sure, do I google time? I mean sausages piano.
It's your front runner right now. I think let's get Colin Quinn is due.
Yeah, I don't know, stay tuned. I mean, by the
time you hear this, you will have seen the image already. But comics
love him. Comics like worship comic Quinn. I'll change it after the fact.
Really, that's it's because probably the reason I don't like him is just
he's so dark and self deprecating, and but that can be good if done
well. I think comics like him that that Tough Crowd show, and that
was on Comedy Central for a while. It was all just like bringing on
kind of unknown comics or you know, under the radar comics and pretty cool
thing back then. I mean all all comedy comes from that place of oh
yeah sure, And that's why I think comics like him. Yeah. He
just lets it out. Yeah, he verbalizes the things that everybody else wants
to say. Yeah, comics are just largely very depressed people. Oh totally.
Yeah, It's like that's the coping mechanism, right boy, what are
the light and cheery start we are off too on this podcast? Yeah,
comedy and video games it's the the two halves of the Hey, but everybody
that's your favorite comedy video game podcast. We're here to yuck it up by
the latest happenings in the world of video games. Let's get crazy. Now
here's the bozo himself, Brad Shoemaker. Go. They're concerningly good at that.
It's really depressing. I was thinking about the two halves of you know,
the sort of Greek theatrical dramatic tradition. Okay, yeah, you got
your comedy mask and you got your video video game mass Yeah no, I
have the laugh now Cry later tattoo on my forearm, just like everyone else.
Would be the majora's mask, wouldn't it right, Yes, of course
that stupid thing. Jeff say that, well done. That'd be the frowny
one. That'd be the video game one mass fun, video game one.
Let's talk about video games, Jeff, all right please. And the other
one is the crash bandicube mask. Yeah, yeah, I know that.
That guy looks part of the UGA. Let's look at the guy's got his
name just Ka Booga. He does have it, he does. What about
the the Ka Booga the shaman guy from Battle Tests also wearing a mask?
What about everyone in Viva Pinata? Those aren't masks? We all humans are
wearing masks, right, what about what do they hide from? Bancho KAZOOI
yeah, that guys are right. The Cox of party Wow, Rare knows
their masks yep. Jeff, Hello video games? What about him? Did
you play something? Oh? Sure, yeah, I mean let's let's talk
about it. Okay, Yeah, let's see geez. Uh yeah, I
don't know. I'm gonna fiddling around with a little bit of this, a
little bit of that. Uh yeah, you know. It's but we've kind
of, you know, there hasn't been There wasn't a whole lot out over
the last week, so I've kind of just been messed around with stuff like
I'm kind of reaching the end of my time with uh stuff like far Cry,
which I kind of stuck with and finished again and and now I think
I'm finally wrapped up with that for for keeps. He's It's funny because they
released that new DLC, which I played once and went like, whatever I
heard, it was not great. It depends on what you want to do,
you know. It's it's like a it starts like there's a lot of
custom vo, like there's new Pagan men vo like to kind of setting up
the thing. But it's like it's a half hour like perma death mode,
where like you kind of you know, if you get out there and do
side stuff and take over take over outposts and stuff, you get more time.
But it's like it's basically you getting from point A to point B,
but if you don't do a much stuff on the way there, when you
get to point B, they might blow up the helicopter that you're trying to
use to escape, and so you can take over outposts as you're trying to
escape the prison. Yeah, so no, it's not the prison. It's
just a it is a it's an island section. It is not it's not
a reskin of the the story mode Escape from that prison. Uh, it's
it's nothing like that. So the same map, it is not the same
map as that prison. It as you wake up at the top of a
tower, run down the tower, and try to get to where you're going.
You start unarmed. You start with a pistol, you start with a
flare gun. Actually, but when I did it, like you you walk
down the flight of stairs, there's a dead body with a pistol on it
right there, So okay, you kind of go from there, and then
I died and tried it a couple more times, got a little further,
and I was just like, you know what, this isn't like speed Far
Cry is not at all interesting to me. So your time, Yeah,
set up cool multi kills. Yeah, so, I mean it's very different
from the main game. Like I'll give them that. I just don't think
it's much fun. So so that maybe is accelerating me being done with with
Far Cry form. If you guys get the Shredder in that game, no
know what I'm talking about. Yes, that Weapony, isn't it. That's
it's a submachine gun. There's there's one called like the buzz or something to
one of those. I don't know why I would ever buy another gun after
the Shredder though, Like, holy shit, that's like it's three hundred is
really expensive. But like the description basically says like, yeah, here's the
best gun in the game. It's like it's it's super accurate, it's super
powerful, and it's silenced. Oh wow, Like what else do you need?
That's great? Yeah, that sounds good. Like every guy goes down
in one burst from it. It's super easily is like a three round burst
thing. I think it might actually shoot full atto. Okay, biggest thing
is there's not as much smg ammo lying around from what I can tell,
so I've been running out of amo for it some but I just probably need
to craft the ammo bag finally. Yeah, that would work. There's also
one of the signature weapons in that game is a is an assault rifle that's
I think fullatto unsilenced, but that you have to get to like fucking rank
ten in the arena. Which who's gonna get do that? Yeah? Yeah,
this just opens up as part of the story. Yeah, yeah,
it seems stupid powerful. Did anyone ever finish the Shangar live stuff? I
put him together? Need to do that? I just want to. I
want to see how it plays out. But I got like three or four
of those done out of the five, but I really don't like those sections.
Yeah, it occurred to me that I don't know about you, but
I have been playing that game off and on for two months. Yeah,
how is it even possible? Yeah? Yeah, I mean that's yeah,
yeah, oh yeah, sure it is. But like when you talk about,
like, oh, the November games have kind of like I don't want
to say they've worn out their welcome, but they've kind of run their course.
We're not playing Mordor no, you know, no, yeah, and
I might. I had a Destiny epiphany. Yes, I don't want to
play that game ever again. Ever. Yeah, but I bought that season
past though. Yeah, I don't care. We're entitled to more content.
I don't actually care because I made this realize. I had this realization that
maybe actually applies to every video game that is treated as a service gone.
None of it fucking matters. Nothing in that game matters at all. Like
there are people out there going like, well, I've got to get the
Icebreaker this weekend because it's the best gun in the game. And I just
realized that. You know, by the time I give a shit about Destiny
again, they will have trivialized so much of the past content that it will
be an easier ramp. So why fucking bash my head against trying to find
shards, because by the time I get around to playing it again, all
that gear will be obsolete. Anyway, who fucking cares, They'll find a
way to reset it all so you can level it up third time. Yeah,
So, so it would be a waste of time for me to even
upgrade this armor, they'd be a waste of talk for me to ever do
anything ever, because they're always just gonna replace it with more ship. We're
getting go the root of some very deep philosophical issues here. Yeah, with
the video games, embrace nothingness. They added they said, like, hey,
guys, we added new stuff to the end of the hard mode raid.
Yes, well that's that's where all the primary weapons are. So nobody's
gotten any of these, right, Okay, so sure, I guess that's
a little different that. But they're gonna roll out next stuff. They'll raise
the level cap and as part of that it'll probably be it's like, oh,
it's just thirteen coins to get the startering piece for the second expansions gear.
Like, okay, fine, when I get back into Destiny, it's
not gonna like penalize me for not having played Destiny. Yeah you can.
None of that shit fucking matters, you know. I would I would say
that doing the raid once would be worthwhile for you, But beyond that,
I would like to see it. Yeah That's what I'm saying. But yeah,
I would be interested in seeing that content. The end of the value
for you is seeing the raid but not playing it again. But it's not
so interested in it that I feel like because right now, being whatever level
twenty nine, like having to go like, okay, well I have to
go grind out some reputation so that I can get another chest, and then
I need to level up this chest like not worth it, not fucking worth
her. So yeah, I found myself playing Diablo three. I see on
the PC. I see, And then that didn't really work out for me
either, Yeah, because I actually leveled past my PC character on the PS
four it turns out I forgot. But yeah, I was just like I
was looking at my PC, going, what the fuck do I even have
installed on this thing anymore? And then realized that, like, oh yeah,
the Battleneck client is here. It's like, okay, well it's uninstalled
Hartstone because fuck that. And then realized Diablo three was there. It's like,
oh, let's run that a little bit, and yeah, all right,
that's the dilemma of the lute driven game. It's true where more content
is introduced. I understand this this. Okay, So this happened over the
last week. I believe it is over the last seven days. I now
understand how the Sphere Grid, and finally Fantasy ten. Whoa wow, okay,
that is what do you think of it? I think it's fucking terrible.
Man, it's wrong with you. That's a great play. If you
want to tell me. When that game came out, there were a lot
of games that had a lot of bad fucking skill trees. So here's another
one. I don't think it will give it to you. Games didn't even
really have like so I RPGs didn't even Yes, I would give it so
yeah as something that like, you know, okay, in Japan, they
didn't necessarily play a lot of games with skill trees and that sort of stuff.
So here's their their spin on it. I will grant you that.
But if you're gonna sit here and tell me in twenty fifteen that the Sphere
Grid was anything more than total fucking bullshit, it's like a you are fucking
crazy. It's like a skill tree and you get to play a board game
at the same time. It is the worst board game in the world.
Come on. Last time I played it was in like two thousand and three,
but I remember thinking, like, this is a cool smart system.
Was neat Yeah exactly. I enjoyed you want you want to see bullshit?
Go crack open Final Fantasy thirteen. No, look at what they did to
the sphere grid in that game. They made it three D. I'll fuck
that, Like remember, like you know three D Chess from Star Trek.
Yeah, it's like that. No, it's like they took they took the
sphere grid and added layers to it. It was terrible. It took me
hours of fucking with it and going like I don't even I'm not even sure,
Like why can't I spends points here? What can't you spend points here?
Wow? What governs how I move? I don't remember a lot of
the specifics. I just I remember thinking it was kind of cool. It's
not it's fine. It's makes you, makes you, forces you to make
some hard choices about how you want to build your cares. Not really though,
I mean, like any any any skill tree does that, Like that
information could be presented any more concise and direct manner. Is what I want?
Is what I am telling. That may be true, it's been a
long time, like that thing is a cockamami fucking roundabout passive garbage again,
though, you got you gotta think of the context of the JRPG genre at
the time. Oh yeah, they're always I mean, yes, the whole
genres garbage, so why not put the system into them? Like fine,
totally, yes, I thought it was all right, but holy shit.
So that that is the part as as my as my girlfriend plays through Final
Fantasy ten, I am in charge of the sphere grid, like you make
the choices. We have agreed upon the directions we're heading, okay to build,
So I'm only playing the sphere grid. Okay, so you just like
you do you just get the controller as soon as it comes up. Yeah,
yeah, like I'm doing something else. And then she's like, you
need to sphere grade me. It's like all right, fine, and I'm
going through and spending all the points like okay, well okay, this guy's
got two hundred more hit points and now okay, yeah we were not we're
not too thunder Raga yet, but we're getting there. Should get there.
It's yeah, it's a good place to be. How are you building Teitos.
We're heading in the direction of Hastaga right now. Well, Lulu,
I seem to remember that being pretty good. Lulu has her second set of
spells and we're heading towards the three. Are you guys going for any of
the Ultimate weapons or are you deep in enough for that? Yeah? No,
I don't think so. It's were at the second Seymore fight, I
guess more. Okay, that's I think it's pretty far in right. I
have no fucking ideas is that when you kill him for real? Uh no,
you find him four times over the course four times? I think you
think so. I don't know. I haven't seen the last part of that
game, but I when I looked it up and when I said like,
oh, let's look up this fight is like it was not clear which version
of c Moore was. I only played that game once. It's been a
while. The voice acting, there's a I mean, yeah, it's like
and playing it now, I mean I never held that game in high regard
and also did not play it when originally came out, But coming to it
now like it is clunky ash Yeah yeah, I know, sure, But
you know at the time, like the voice acting and all that stuff,
you just look at it like there are some things about it. I'm playing
the playing on the PS three and it's like, okay, well, actually,
you know, there's some aspects of the production and presentation aspect of this.
This is actually somewhat impressive, but like whoever created these like Cloister of
Trials sections and all this shit like just bogging down this game with even more
fucking garbage, or like at some point you really see the this notion of
like, well it needs to be a forty hour, right, I mean
it's coming out of the genre where like like dozens of hours is somehow like
like a dozens of hours to complete these games is like a batch of honor
for some reason, we're used to be We need to get the destructions fares.
I put this one in the wall and it just vaporized. What's your
guys understanding of why Titus's dad in that game turns into like a demon whale
when it turns into sin yeah, white, what happens there? I just
remember fighting a whale and it said it was my dad, and then I
was a ghost or something. It's not your dad, it's your old man.
Oh okay, my old man was a real dick. I'm gonna tell
you again in first person. I've got my old man. I'm gonna tell
you a story and then you're gonna hear me as a kid as if my
fucking adult voiceover couldn't be annoying enough. You'll hear kid me being a real
piece of shit. Oh my god, this fucking game. I don't know.
At the time, it wasn't you know, how good is the voice
acting? It was holy crap, Final Fantasy he has that that was a
big deal. I mean, yeah, I don't want to take anything away
from the achievements of when it was originally released, Like games weren't doing that
stuff, they they because that was like one years the PS two. It
would have been the second holiday season of the Pills two. That was the
same as like GTA three and Middle Gear two. Like that was a fucking
holiday season and that was Halo. Yeah, okay, yeah, two thousand
and one. Yeah that was huge. Yeah that was a big year.
Yeah, totally. Like I yeah, I don't want to take away from
what it achieved in its era, but I'm saying someone someone coming to it
now. Aroon is the only interesting character. It's because his arm is a
sling, just like Fresh Kid Ice from two Last Cruise. Arm is in
a sling and he carries around a juggle liquor all the time. Yeah,
yeah, it's pretty cool. His arm must hurt, and the giant sword
because you never know when you're gonna need one. It's cool fucking glasses or
the other. That dude seems all right, yeah he's cool everybody else,
fuck everyone, But yeah, I tried to play that that remake last year,
and yeah, like three hours into it and I was like, this
does not hold up. I can't, I don't. I would rather not
sully my memory of this. I'm just gonna stop. How did the cut
scenes hold up? Because I remember being blown away by that first one where
sins coming up, it comes out of the blitz ball thing is still decent.
I remember stuffed to look at it, like it looks pretty good,
but I think a lot of the faces look really fucking bad. Yeah.
Uh. And that's the sort of stuff that like, you know, obviously
that technology is progressed, but you look at it now and it's like,
specially you have like cg tightest face and and well is it tical? It
sounds stupid, but that's that's what it is. It's dumb fucking water soccer.
Yeah, dumb motherfucker all right? Uh yeah, yeah, So you
end up in cases where like I think that cgi fucking pre rendered Tedis face
looks terrible. It looks like a chipmunk or something, okay, and then
in game Titos face is like, okay, well that's recognizable as a video
game protagonist. That works out. But a lot of the faces and in
the in the cut scenes, I think, look, uh, kind of
bad. I was gonna say something about that game, and I've forgotten what
it was. Is it are que to move on? Yeah? Probably don't
fancy all the overdrive element reels and Waka's a real piece of shit. Did
you play ten too? Because I made it like thirty minutes into the game.
I feel like I watched it thirty it seemed pretty terrible. I it's
fancy service. I mean, you know, it's like all of a sudden,
like what the is going on? Stuff was all right, It's just
it clashed so much with the tone of ten that makes me. I mean,
like, this is the thought of ten two having like this sort of
like fuck it fan service thing to it. I think puts a lot of
Final Fantasy ten, the developers intentions and a lot of stuff into stark relief
where you're just like, oh, they don't really give a shit, Like
it's just like, oh, they're just like whatever. They just want to
tell into the story without his characters, so they just gend up like whatever,
fine, you know. I mean it was one thing that the tone
was very distinctive in or kind of incongruous, But the bigger problem was that
they they basically undid everything with emotional impact that they did at the end of
ten. You know, it probably seems like that game shouldn't have been called
ten two if it had just been like, you know, here's our dumb
pop star fan service Final Fantasy tens. You know, like they're bringing back
character, bringing characters back to life whose deaths were supposed to be emotionally resonant
in ten you know, who cares and they're just like they're they're life.
Whatever. Yeah, it's dumb. You want to play this game? We
wanted to make it. I don't know, right, the assets were done,
we did, you know, the assets and the engine were costly.
Let's just another game out of it. Yeah, I don't know. Uh,
yeah, I didn't. I didn't put it in news, but there
was a new guy running uh or I mean, it wasn't really a new
story. I just saw some stuff about it. It's like it just happened,
but there's a there's a new guy officially running Final Fantasy. Now,
yeah, I thought of that because Cliff Plazinski. Yep, it's just about
to make that Joke's weird, that's the exact name. I'm just about to
say, weird being maze tell often that starts happening. Uh yeah, Like
I feel like ten was. Somebody will probably angrily correct me on this,
but like ten was sort of the last big outing of kind of the old
Final Fantasy guard if that makes sense, right, yeah, yeah, But
like eleven was an MMO, so that was made by different people, right,
Twelve was made by Matsnou who was the Tactics guy and was set in
the Tactics universe, and then thirteen was this weird mishmash like whatever. But
I feel like ten was like the culmination of that whole like PlayStation era of
of Final Fantasy games. Oh sure, and they kind of never got past
it, you know. Yeah, like they've tried to recreate it in some
ways. They never got past seven. If you if you really want,
you know, like like that's it's still the game people want, like for
as much as people enjoy ten and have their favorites, like a lot of
people like eight, a lot of people like nine. Whatever. It is
like they have been completely unable to get past seven. And it's I think
that a lot of people have been able to unable to past seven. I
don't think, yeah, that's not but yeah, sure, yeah, but
it's just the people whose first RPG was Final Fantasy seven. Sure, totally
yeah for that game. Yeah uh, And they should probably just actually do
the real remake of that game, Like when you think about it, like
you think about the reasons they don't do it, being that they would have
to start from scratch and produce all new high res models for these characters,
redo all the cg Like, you know, the expense that they would put
into that game would be on par with developing an all new Final Fantasy Games.
Yeah, I think. But don't you think a proper remake of Final
Fantasy seven would sell at least as well, if not better than another numbered
Final Fantasy sequel? Maybe, Like that's that seems like the you know,
like for a company that has been on the brink of disaster and seems to
occasionally do things that are pretty financially motivated, whatever, their company, every
company, but you know you can't. You can't bet the farm if you're
in that risky position. You know, I feel I can't make this.
They still need the capital up front to fund this shirt, they still need
to bake the investment. But the lowest risk investment they could make is,
hey, we remade Final Fantasy seven? Is it? You saw the fucking
people at that thing in Vegas flip out as soon as that PC version made
it the screen, before they realize they were being duped. I guess,
But how many of those people actually are there? I mean, how many
of those? But but like, how many people? How many people care
about an all new Final Fantas? How many? Well, not many?
Like thirteen three years, whereas like how many people would you drag back in
that don't care about model current Final Fantasy? Maybe by saying you're making seven,
play I play a new seven just to see what's up. It's like,
hey, we made the snowboarding better. I would be curious to see
it. I guess I have no interest in like the thirteen stuff they're doing
now, but I would plays done. That's done. They put a lid
on that. Yeah, Like I just I'm surprised that that that that that
company hasn't actually revisited that stuff in the right and in the way that people
seem to want them to. The ship may have sailed at this point,
is the Yeah, probably, Like, but every generation of consoles, it
gets more and more expensive to make games because the level of fidelity and stuff
is going up. But at the same time, like then you're saying the
ship is sailed on a big numbered Final Fantasy game as well, because like,
you know, it's the same money. Well yeah, but well you
know who knows what they're doing with fifteen to minimize costs or make it more
efficient for this type of playing a web browser. Yeah, part of it,
the snowboarding part runs in unity. The rest is that's fair. Just
flash that demo is coming out in a couple of months so we can find
out or heard something about that game being like a road movie. Yeah,
I feel like that immediately makes me like, if that's what the fact game
is, that immediately makes me want to not that gonna be humorous in the
same way. Sure, even the idea of a road trip, I mean,
if you think about it being at the core or the Final Fantasy game,
But like At the same time, isn't every single Final Fantasy game like
sort of a road drill? Like more explicitly, I think more explicitly,
the characters are in a car driving on highways. I don't know the car.
Can the car get a flying upgrade? When some mechanic names SID comes
by. They come by and go like, I put wings out of your
car, and then they install a drill on the front of the car and
then you can go into the earth. Yeah, I mean sounds exciting.
Yeah, so you'll see Final Fantasy tens to its conclusion. I don't I
don't know. Somebody in your house will maybe, oh does that not even
as sured at some point she might actually just go like that, which has
almost happened a couple of Wow, has she played it before? Well,
I guess said, you know that's that's that was my response about three hours
in. So yeah, who knows? Is that it? Yeah? I
think I think it might actually, but they slow month be it? Not
a lot going on? Yeah? Well, so, well we played sports
ball around here, yes, which is out in the w U E Shop.
Yes. Uh, that's like like joust to put some sports stuff.
I'm not a huge fan of it. It's got a really good song.
Yeah, yeah, that songs good. I also bought Meme Run, which
we've been meming to do a quick look though. Pretty soon here, pretty
good. That game is a real shit factory I had when I was watching
you play it, I had to admire their gusto though. Yeah, they
make that thing as rotten with memes as they possibly can. I guess.
I mean, it's like it's not even yeah, at some point, it's
just like it's the montage style, right, It's like the presence of the
memes themselves. It's not funny, it's that they went so far with it.
It's like a Bobo's Big Adventure, but for Reddit memes, I guess,
you know, it's just like here's you know, Illuminati signs and big
you know, Rainbow Dancing frogs and then you know Hit Marker, you know
Call of Duty Gun Hit Marker stuff, And I want to know what a
Bobo's Big Adventure. That's a flash Oh my god, you should play it.
It's like just the biggest love letter to the nes. So you play
as a Bobo and yeah it's free flash game and you play through just like
every like all the sprites and stuff from every ans game you could ever imagine,
like a punch out fight. I think it's the last boss. Like
it's it's really really good. I've waited so long to play as a bobo.
Yeah, we'll find whatever any s Double Dragon mode b man. Really
Yeah, it was a shitty fighting game. Wow. And you could play
as weird anys a Bobo, which is just a fucking scary prospect anyway you
look at it. Speaking of a Bobo. Double Dragon Trilogy is out on
Steam. Oh yeah, I took a look at that. Uh dot mu
uh dot emu. It's a developer that's done some some emulation style ports and
stuff like that to iOS in the past. This just appears to be something
that they probably did for iOS and Android uh dumped out on the PC for
four bucks. What versions are they? Arcade? So it's a weird So
it's arcade art, but it'll run it any resolution and like it's it's they're
doing weird stuff to it where it's not it's you know, the music cues
don't line up, like they're not emulating the games in a purely faithfully fashion.
They've made parted it and made changes or see it that's kind of what
it seems like. I don't know what's going on under the hood with it,
but you know, you're not coining up, you know. And then
they have like an arcade and story mode option in there, which I have
no idea what the difference between those two things that even would be. But
I mean the arcade version, I had all the story anybody could handle exactly,
let's be honest. Totally. Yeah, So they're weird, they control
a little funky, and but it was a good reminder that Double Dragon three
is that we're talking about that on this show. Really now you said that
all the needs to be said to make me want to talk about Double Dragon
three, So please commence. Boy, what a terrible fucking game is it?
Yeah? Isn't the one that had different characters you could pick from you
didn't pick from them? Well, it probably depending on which version you played.
I'm talking about the arcade version, which had a store where you could
literally drop in an extra quarter to buy power ups and stuff like that.
Holy shit, that's where it came up in a quick look. Yeah,
we were talking about Double Dragon three. Did it come out on the Yeah,
that was totally different game that was the game that it says Bimmy and
Jimmy Lee in it, and it's a fucking weird but yeah, the Arcade
game was not like one and two. It didn't have the elbow, so
fuck that game. It had like you could run. It had like crazy
weird animation that was trying to be a little more realistic, like it looked
like Trade West made it if I guess it just has that look. Or
there are other Playboo characters besides the Lea's, yeah, two others. So
how it would work is you would go in the shop and you would buy
what it's called extra guys. You would put in a quarter and and buy
extra guys, and then when your Lee brother died, you would get a
Kickboxer or some of these other you know, those ambulther characters that were in
it, and it was ridiculous. You'd also buy nunchucks, which didn't have
range on them in this because they used them like they were real nunchucks.
They're just whipping around. This is silly. This is not why I bought
these. Great it's a four dollars. Yeah, it's on sale right now.
I think it's somewhere around four. But whole trilogy. Yeah, I
still I don't. I don't like what they did to those games. I
probably wouldn't recommend picking it up. If you're looking for faithful Double Dragon,
it doesn't seem like that. This is what it's come to, Dark Days
of January. If you want faithful Double Dragon. Talking about ports of Double
Dragons, you need to play Station four. Oh yeah, because its version.
Yes, Hampster has emulated the arcade version of Double Dragon, just the
first one though. Yes, And if you have eight dollars in a Japanese
account eight hundred and twenty yen, don't don't. Actually that's too much money
to pay for an emulation. And like a Double Dragon emulator, what if
it came out of here, it would still be like that, but then
you wouldn't have to fiddle with the Japanese account. Yeah, I mean,
maybe's a little bit easier. Maybe it's worth it. That seems like that
seems like one that should have come out here. What was the other one?
Maybe the only one that's come out in the US. Double Dragon probably
plays in the US better than anything else they make. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I would not be shocked to see that come over. Gradius is
supposedly coming to Peace four pretty soon here too. So that's an okay version
of that. I don't think I've ever seen that. Yeah, it's it's
the okade version. Let's just still got the MOI heads, m yep,
Easter Islands and space weird game. Yeah, okay, Dan, Yes got
out of hill? Yes, you got out of hill? Presumably I did.
I escaped. Let's talk about it. It's a new Saints Row product,
it is. It's a standalone thing. It comes with the re elected
edition of Saints Row four on the new consoles, or you can just download
it by itself on you know whatever console. What is it twenty Yeah,
I don't know. The game stop had a listing for five Yeah. I
think that. I don't know if that was a mistake. I got corrected
pretty quickly, but I think some people did manage to order it for five
bucks, which it seems more appropriate. Maybe it's more appropriate than what I've
seen. It's you know, it's not bad. You know, I gave
it three stars in the review. Uh, it's it's more Saints. I
just kind of felt that with the Shift to Hell, you know, this
whole new setting and everything they could have done a lot more to it,
and it really just kind of feels like more of the same like powers and
ship from four, Like it's almost identically the same powers. Like you can
just straight up fly, right, that's you can fly and you get these
you can upgrade how many flaps you get which speed you up and get up
to five. So it's nice to soar around and like, you know,
I'm kind of a completionist with stuff, so I had a lot of fun
just flying around getting orb clusters and stuff like that. You know, wound
up spending seven hours with it, got close to one hundred percent and kind
of mainline the story and maybe two hours, maybe closer to three. But
yeah, it's like all the diversions and stuff are just little tiny tweaks on
stuff that we've already seen for years, like which I mean, that's the
stuff that four did by taking it into like computer land or whatever. You
know. The whole thing was like, oh, we're amping up and making
the things from three weird, and to do that again seems crazy. Yeah,
and it's it's not particularly funny or that fun or different to play.
Like, you know, insurance fraud is now torment fraud, so you're playing
is these you know, souls in hell and trying to get years shaved off
your sentence or whatever. But it plays the exact same as insurance fraud.
So yeah, there's not a whole lot of new stuff outside. Like the
flying stuff is pretty cool, but but I don't like not being able to
customize my character at all. So I mainly played as Kncy. You can
play as Kenzi or Gat, but how do you switch. You just go
to the old Tour Corporations tower and you can just hit wire or whatever and
it switches between him. But that's one of my favorite things about Saints It
is like I remember playing all of Saints Row the third co op, and
we were the nark guys, like we were able to buy like the motorcycle
helmets and stuff, and I was a red guy, he was blue guy.
And I just love, you know, being able to customize. People
get way into that stuff, and it's like one of the selling points of
Saints Row to me at this point. For me, the selling point is
is the characters and the kind of the quality of the writing and stuff around
it. So it's you know, like I didn't get too into customizing.
Like when I think about my version of the Boss. He's got you know,
triple H facial hair, like you know, motorhead shops and dreads and
he's a fucking weird though. But you know, like whatever teaches own.
So I'm not that didn't necessarily like put me off of this like that you
were playing his fixed characters. For me, it was specifically that I think
Johnny Gatt is lame. He is, Yeah, and it's no different here.
That's why I played as Kenzie most of the times. I like her.
Yeah, is actually kind of like my favorite character from yeah, from
those games. So yeah, but yeah, but even like clothing stuff,
you can't can't alter any of that stuff. But you know, a lot
of the bigger mechanics and like progression stuff is there, Like you're upgrading all
your weapons and stuff, and there there's a lot of new like hell weapons
and things. You're upgrading your character, you're collecting the soul clusters and upgrading
your powers and stuff like that. Stuff is still fun to do, but
it's it's just stuff that you've done several times before. You know. There's
no radio stations, no customization, they you know, some little things I
had to do considering the scope of the game. No radio stations, what
you get in a car. Well, first of all, you don't ever
need yeah why would you? But yeah, you know, outside of the
kind of scenes where it turns into a damn musical, I don't remember hearing
any I don't think there's no music in it. I like standards claimer.
I only played the very beginning of it before it came in, like the
first thirty forty five minutes or something. But like it feels incredibly flat and
lifeless for a Saints ro game. Yeah, that's the impression I got,
you know, we did that quick look, and I've been kind of watching
you play it here and there. Yeah, it just seems like the world,
Yeah, the world in particular feels super it's lifeless because everybody's dead,
but like it just seems like the most like bone stock to take on.
Hell's like there's lava, like yeah, all right, but like just nothing
going on, you know, like there's nothing to look at in the city.
Like it doesn't feel lively. It's not an entertaining place to be the
way that like Steelport was and that kind of thing. All the pedestrians are
like the same, just kind of lifeless, hust right now, right,
Yeah, there's there's not not not much personality in that world at all.
Yeah, which is like it's like maybe the most damning thing you could say
about a Saints Row game is there's not that much personality. Yeah, you
know it. Meat Loaf is not in it though. No, no's that's
that's unfortunate. It's just like it again, I haven't seen the whole thing,
but the first impression is that it feels kind of low rent in a
way. Does that makes sense, Yeah, Like it feels like through it,
it seems like that. Yeah. There's lots of little technical issues and
stuff, like we saw plenty of flick frame rate drops. There's frame rate
stuff. There's like all kinds of weird little bugs and like transitional issues that
happen. Yeah, like if you end a diversion while you're flying, it'll
just like really quickly just put you on the ground and like cut to a
quick like one screen, or like if you fallow yeah yeah, yeah,
and stuff like that, like like if you fall in lava, it's not
actually lava that you fall into, it's just like your character just lands on
it like it's ground and then the screen fades to black. Like, well,
it's just ground with a lava texture on it, and then it cuts
you do upgrade like things so you can run run lava. Yeah right,
but but still like it just the fit and finish like those games have always
you know, open world Jank or whatever aside, those always felt like pretty
slick productions to me. The first couple had a lot Okay, well technically,
let's let's say the three and four define like the modern era a lot
better. Yeah, like starting at three, like, those games have felt
very slick to me, And to see this one, it's more Jay than
three. Like it's just kind of like the seams are showing all over it
from what I could see. Yeah, and I guess, like you know,
on some level, I was I was hoping for better performance on these
console vers over you're playing on Xbox One, and yeah, just didn't seem
to run that great. Yeah, I mean it didn't look any better than
in the last jan or anything. So yeah, that's a shame. Like,
if anything, it almost makes me wonder if the ambition of this thing
outstripped the budget they had for it, because like to build a whole,
a whole new open world that hasn't been seen before on in a game that's
only going to retail for at most twenty dollars or free with another package.
It seems insane, Like they didn't even do that for four, which ended
up being a full price release. You know, Yeah, this isn't just
steel Port but Lava, Like it's a new city, new assets, new
stuff. But to try to do that on this like shoestring budget or whatever
that they probably had to get this thing done, I don't know. It
seems like it just feels stretched really thin from what I've seen of it,
and there's not really like real story missions, Like there's a couple, but
mostly it's like, hey, do all these diversions for different people in Hell
until you unlock a cut scene and then move on from the next set of
diversions. Yeah. Like I did the black Beard one before I turned it
off, and I was like, really, that's it. Yeah. I
know, there's like a loyalty mission for each historical figure that unlocks after you
do it, but like, based on what I got from doing the initial
black Beard mission, I was like, I don't really want to follow up
with him, Like there's just nothing there. Yep. It's a weird way
to extend the you know, like you've got this pretty hot property on your
hands, Like it's kind of a weird thing to do with that. Yeah,
yeah, Saintsburg was such a fucking weird thing, you know, like,
yeah, it is a hot property. But it's hard sometimes it's hard
to think of it as such. You know, it's it's it's really you
know, I mean, they've had their four games, Like I you know,
I think one and two are such distant memories that I just don't think
that they matter in the conversation anymore. But I think three was outstanding,
especially as a pivot from what two was. It was fucking mind blowing.
But then you know, four was was good, but kind of felt like
it was coasting a little bit, you know, same city, just everything
blue, and then this, you know, like I don't know, it
seemed like they were out there talking about wanting to take a break from Saints
and now they're owned by Deep Silver and who just bought the IP and the
developer, and maybe they're hot to get some of that Saints Row money.
Let's start to wonder like are they gonna just keep pumping out Saints Row or
are they gonna really take a break because the ending of Saints Row four leaves
things in a place where they could do everything or nothing, right, you
know, this follows directly from that. Yeah, this isn't even seems more
like everything. This this seems more like, well, you know, because
of the open ended nature of the end of Saints Row four, we can
tell any story we want with these characters in any time, in a place
and anything. But they actually are establishing this as like there is a chronology
after four here because Jane Austen is on the ship with you. Yeah.
Yeah, so like they're like, hey, this happened after four, you
know, like right if anything after four? You just kind of wanted,
like I has tate to use the word reboot, but like kind of just
I still think that it's weird because I still think that that's probably the only
thing they can do totally. You know, you talked about it a bit
in the review, this idea of just like how much more can you keep
pumping up the crazy incense row and have it still worth They are now a
band of space faring adventurers, and also there's no more Earth or human race,
so like, I don't know where else you go, Well, what
were they hinting at at the end of four with like I don't know who
Jane Austin is, but she was dressing like old timey clothes the famous author.
So they but from like the eighteen hundreds or something. If you've heard
of sense and sensibility, I've heard these basics. It's the Air Force gator,
if it's if it's era, really if that helps? Oh okay,
okay, she's well Respectedly, she's well respected, is what I'm saying.
Okay, but like eighteen hundreds, right, yes, yeah, so they
were they were hinting at some kind of time travel stuff there, see that
would be more forget how that came into How did that even enter the story?
Well, it's like by the time you when you finish four, the
narrator, Yeah, like she hadn't turned out to be the narrator the whole
time. But I don't remember what how time travel even came into it.
They pull out in such a way that like, you know, you kind
of breaking out of the cyber simulation or whatever, like you're able, Like
you by beating those aliens, you're able. I think you uncover sometimes just
time or whatever. Okay, and you're able to kind of do your thing.
That was the kind of the thought coming out of that one was like,
well, if they continue, the story will have to be some kind
of like Saints through the Ages type thing, right, So yeah, you
end up in that situation where it was like, okay, well, each
game, you know, they could do a series of one offs, like
Get Out of Hell, where it's like, you know, here's this ragtag
group of misfits, you know, trapsing their way through time and space and
they end up in these different situations. So here's our Hell one, here's
our Mafia one. You know, like they could have gone down that road.
Maybe they still will, which was funny. In three, the third
one, they did the thing where like all of a sudden you're back in
like a fifty sitcom basically, and that walk animation like that stuff. That
was well done. Yeah, sure it was well done, But that's well
done is like a you know, it's a one off thing. You couldn't
make a whole fifty sitcom game. Yeah, and also you could actually but
not you know, was that three or four? That was four? Yeah,
that's right. Was at the beginning of that. You get knocked out
when you're the President. That's right. But at a certain point, even
if you're doing like sort of historical settings, it kind of turns into a
parody of Assassin's Creed at a certain point, which sounds they could do some
stuff with that. Yeah, I guess there's there's Yeah, there's definitely something
to be wrung out of that, for sure. God, I don't know,
it's tough. That actually would be pretty good, yeah, but but
not necessary, you know. And it's one of the things where it's like,
yeah, when when they get back to kind of mainline, make make
a big core game, it probably needs to be more than something like that.
It would need to encompass multiple times, or it would need to yeah,
reboot it. Like I I just don't think I don't think they can
get away with like this continuing storyline going. You know, just like we
turned up the juice on the crazy meter and now it's really well even even
like just mechanically, just in terms of what you're doing from minute to minute.
I kind of miss like having a reason to go jack cars and stuff,
like I'm missing driving. That's one of the things that was so cool.
And the third was, you know, having the phone. The guys
are just delivering ilock this weird like tron tank, right, and you're driving
that around like free? You ever do that in four? Or get out
of help? Three was a great, great happy medium of like, well,
you still need to drive, and you still need to go steal cars
from time to time, but also we're just gonna make it so you can
have all your favorite cars at all. Yeah, I mean three was well.
I mean, if you break it down, three was just better at
making you think you weren't totally invincible, even though you pretty much are sure
games are not difficult, you know. And then four is like you're literally
jumping over buildings at total points, yeah, you know three to get like
a hoverbike or whatever, and that seemed more fun than just the inventibility stuff,
I guess. So yeah, I don't know, Like, but at
the same time, I think like going back and just like, well we
took you know, the continuing the next chapter in this story is we re
rooted these characters back in reality. Like that doesn't work. I just I
don't think it does. That's that's why I almost feel like you have to
start something new. Yeah, like you almost you have to have to kind
of toss it out and hope for the best, and maybe you kind of
have a wink and nod like, oh, they decided to reset all of
reality, So you know, if they actually just went back and retold the
story of Saints Row one, but with their kind of newfound story chops and
you know, some of the gameplay sensibilities they applied to the later games,
Like, I actually think that could work in a weird way, as if
anyone cares about the storyline or characters of Saints Row one or two, uh,
you know, not, none of that shit really matters. So but
I think that there's probably something they could get out of that. I just
don't know if they need to. Yeah, yeah, I don't know where
they go from here. That's that's a that's that to me seems like a
difficult road for for that developer. And I'm sure that there's probably someone there
that is thought much longer about this than I have and has come to some
kind of conclusion about it one way or the other. Hopefully they have a
good idea for it. Hopefully they have time to execute on it right probably,
Yes, you know, it seems like between Saints Row and Dead Island,
like Deep Silver's just kind of been cranked stuff out. Yeah, in
these popular franchise some of that, some of that Dead Island stuff has been
pretty rough. Yeah. Well, like I said, this does not This
does not make a great first impression either. Yeah. Yeah, even four
would have been better if, like the original plan was that Entered the Dominatrix
DLC. Well, it sounds like it sounds like what Ford ended up becoming
was much bigger in scope than what that thing was. Yeah. I remember
Rubin saying that, like he saw what they were doing with Enter the Dominatrix
and he said, like, oh, this needs to be a full game.
But honestly, I would have liked it more as I can get out
of help. But I saw the balance sheet and said, no, I
really like four. Yes, I really like four. Well, like,
what's the standard line now they out Crackdown? Crackdown. It was a fun
superhero game. I don't enough there was enough good material in it. Yeah,
I thought it was just the romance options and the way they handle that
stuff is hilarious. The places they go with their cameos and stuff works really
well. Like, you know, they get a lot out of the writing,
They get a lot out of the guests and the stuff that is kind
of on the periphery of you know, most other video games. Like they're
they're really good at making that stuff core and meaningful. It's a real shame
that this new thing doesn't have any of that. Yeah, Like there's not
a lot to it mechanically or like the you know, they're not really bringing
their chops. Yeah, they're not bringing what's unique to Saints Row to it.
Really. I mean, when it comes down to it, Roddy Roddy
Piper is more interesting than Johnny Gatt. Yes, you know, yeah,
and I'll agree to that. Like if if they you know, you can
almost there you go, there's your reboot plan. Yeah, he's the star
of the game, okay, as himself. They live the game? Sure,
why not? He's wearing the kilt, yeah, whole game. Yeah,
if they did, they live the game, that would be the best
excuse to have like a Batman vision mode, just put the glasses on.
Yep, it'd be awesome. Oh man, that would really want that game?
Yeah, man, Open World, I think I think, yeah,
I think you could take you know, you could take the they live concepts
and apply it in a way that we're like Okay, we've made the sequel
that they Live Too and guess what, it's a video game and actually make
that not shitty. Yeah, it almost seems like parodying or satirizing popular stuff
like that might be the best way for them to go. I'm not sure.
I feel like that's what that when they're firing on all cylinders with that
stuff, that's when they're at their best, you know, like the parodies
of of things like dragging in you know, Keith David. Like the stuff
they did there I think was all bur Reynolds was all pretty amazing. Yeah,
And so not having any of that to to kind of help drive the
story forward probably doesn't help. But you know, I mean, the core
of those games are fun too, so you know, they kind of need
to do something there to freshen that end of it up as well. I
think if they just said, here's insurance fraud again, but guess what,
Polly Shore is going to talk to you the whole time like that's not gonna
work. Yeah, that's that's why reason. Colin Quinn, Okay, there,
I mean, that's that's why I agree. And I still didn't played
that much of it, but why I found what I've played at this thing
to be so disappointing. Is that like even if they didn't bring it on
the story and the writing front, you know, Like like you said,
I think some people are gonna like that musical stuff more than Dan. I've
only seen a little better, to be fair, what I have seen of
the like storybook, like Paige churning stuff seemed pretty good. I don't know
if that. I don't know where that stuff goes. I haven't seen any
musical numbers like that. Sounds like that could be pretty funny actually, But
but the thing I was gonna say was like, even if that stuff isn't
as an effect as it usually is, like normally running around in the Saints
row game, is still a lot of fun, right, I just haven't
found that to be satisfying in this case. Yeah. I felt like kind
of towards the end of four, uh like it was it was where that's
someone who got everything in four, Like there's like at some point I was
like why am I doing this? Yeah? I mean and this is the
exact same thing, you know, except that like the cops that show up
are demons instead of cyber yep cyber coop type guys do like that the demon
show up and like flame belching, spiked whale monster. Trust that some of
that stuff is interesting, but again it's like the monster truck shows up and
you're like, oh, that's cool, but everything around it, like everything
about the backdrop of the city is just super boring. Yea, from what
I've seen, it just looks like something they didn't have a lot of budget
for. You needed to put something out. So yeah, yes, utilized.
But that's a good name. It is good. Yeah, Yes,
the name is good. Yeah. Sure, and I you know, still
totally tells you the whole story of the game. Yeah, I guess.
So it goes into Hell. Yeah, but then but then he has to
get out. You got to get out of I love the set up for
him going to Hell is nothing more than Johnny Gatt wants to go to Hell
and do something. I gotta say the boss so he got I know.
But I'm saying like he didn't get sucked into Hell. He didn't look mixed
up in any occult stuff. He's just like I'm going to Hell and getting
this guy back. I do like that he shot a wage board. Yes,
that part that made me all right? Part was the intro is actually
pretty good for that game. You're right, still still plenty of excited to
see more Saints real stuff. Just think this thing it feels kind of like
a misstep. Yep. Yeah. I mean I haven't really cared much about
any of the DLC they've done for three or four because some of that stuff
was pretty questionable. This kind of feels like it maybe falls into that camp.
Yea. So hopefully when they get back around to making a full game,
you know they'll do it. Yeah, Dan, yes, play anything
else? I bet you did. Poo poo Tetris. Yeah, I guess
we did play more. That's a damn video game. The Fish is still
undefeated here. I don't remember that being the case. Oh, the Fish
is undefeated. We have plenty of videos. I'm seeing a crying fish.
Oh no, I'm sorry that was Rory when Rory also picked the fish and
lost. But on top of that, which is awesome, I've been doing
the adventure mode, which I don't understand at all. Uh, Doctor Dog
was mad on my spaceship at one point because I think poo poos were getting
on it. Hey when that happens, Yeah, I don't know. Japanese
at, So I just hit a a bunch. But outside of that,
I talked last week about the Dolphins stuff. Yes, got that working,
and it's a billion times better than I would have expected. Just cranked everything
up on Galaxy. I almost think it looks better than three D World.
I would have to put him, you know, side by side, but
as I mean, it looks gorgeous. You can. I spent hours making
sure everything was right, like tinkering around with graphics options and getting a towerque
on the Xbox one controller because that was the one thing I couldn't get working
is the we moat emulation. I couldn't sink it to my computer. It's
a weird Windows eight thing where if you go into Bluetooth settings, it says
like, hey, enter the password for this Bluetooth device, But hey,
I can't do that with the we moat. So some people found little hacks
to do that, but I learned that I could just do it with an
Xbox one controller. So right stick for the I R stuff. Yeah,
that was the one thing I never like. I always thought about, Yeah,
you could map those controls to a controller, except anything that involved pointing.
Just right stick and you're just moving you're just literally moving the moat cursor
around the screen with the right stick. That's so weird, like a controller
light gun game. Yeah yeah, and it works fine, like not super
slow, like it seems like it's like shooting enemies with it would be maybe
a little bit less. You don't have to do that that much in Galaxy.
The one thing I'm worried about is like kind of like the Manta ray
surfing things. So I put like the tilt controls onto why and be on
the face button. So I haven't gotten to one of those yets. We'll
see how that works. But Galaxy isn't bad about motion stuff. So I've
been able to play you know, like nine or ten Shines in and you
know, like the shake thing that you have to do all the time.
I'm sorry, napped to nine or ten what shint stars stars? Thank you?
Nine or ten stars? Yes, I'm sorry, I was thinking of
that other great marogame. But I've got the shake thing is just X,
so to extend my jumps, I just have to hit X instead of shake
a dumb things. Uh yeah, Like all those all those waggle inputs were
just a single like effectively a single input anyway, right, yeah, yeah,
as well put them on a button. And it's so weird because like,
I haven't played any you know, I used to do a lot of
emulation stuff with like an S and Super Nintendo, but I never went beyond
the sixteen bit era with that. So having like saved states and stuff for
a you know, three D relatively recent Mario game is is new to me.
I'm trying not to use it at all. Does it work? Like
does everything is? Everything? Like this is probably ancient history. But the
last time I looked at Dolphin, they were like there were these weird little
caveats like, oh, Mario doesn't have any pupils in the cut scenes or
something like that. You know, there used to be stuff like that,
and like I guess Galaxy for a long time, the music would cut out,
but they've since fixed that, and it is just it's basically all the
term. The only thing that happens is sometimes when the star bits come down,
like the asteroids and they shatter and a bunch of star bits come out,
there's a little bit of slow down just until the star bits settled down.
But outside of that, man, it just looks so fucking good.
It's one of those things like you know, like it's all finding good for
like playing games and whatever, but like if we look at kind of the
emulation and what its real role is is like, this is how we're going
to preserve games well beyond their shelf life. This is this is how these
digital only games that are hard to and it's it's unfortunate because it's part of
it. And you know, is what we look at now it's piracy we
will later look on is like, well that's the only way to see this
really super obscure thing and preserve this this super obscure thing. And it's it's
awesome that so many different people are like basically volunteering their time to like develop
emulators and and get this stuff along. And you know, I was like
playing the newer stuff on it. I think it's always like a it's it's
always such a gray area, and playing this stuff seems even extra gray because
it is still so recent. Yeah, as he was talking about this stuff,
like I bought I bought Rio Mario Galaxy two on the WEIU because they
have it on sale, right, And then I was sitting here like,
oh and technically bought it. There is that title me to a license to
play it on other things like probably not, no, no, I mean
legally, probably not. But like you know, when I've got the actual
disc of Mario Galaxy sitting and I don't feel bad about Yeah, it's yeah,
everyone has to draw their own lines. I mean, I'm not here
to say like, let's be the cops, but you know that stuff is
always so cool, uh and and fascinating. Actually, over the weekend,
play a game called mud Pies, which was on the Atari st What what
is Mudpies? Uh? So it's a game in which you are a guy
and there are a bunch of evil clowns attempting to get you and you have
to fling pies at them. Sounds familiar, Yeah, it's it's kind of
a clone of food Fight, which was a class arcade game. And yeah,
I don't know, I wanted to see some Mudpies because some people in
the comments of some videos you're putting, we're talking about mud Pies. I'm
like, watch, you'd probably see what this Mudpies game it's all about,
because this is not something that i'd heard of before. And yeah, sure
enough, that's that's a pretty decent food Fight clone. But you know,
It's like stuff like that would be totally lost to time. Yeahs, who
the fuck cares about Mudpies. That's not coming out on like XBLA. Yeah,
the gretty dark reboot Mudpies HD is coming any day now. These fucking
clowns are they have it out for you the You gotta watch out these fuckers.
Yeah. So just like, you know, being able to just kind
of revisit all this different stuff and and do it with relative ease is nice
as well. But you know, just being able to preserve uh, you
know, all these rotting fucking e proms and it's like different rom chips and
stuff that are just you know, all these CPS two boards that capcom put
out that all have batteries on them that eventually die and destroy the board unless
you very specifically know how to. You know, if they didn't decrypt,
they didn't brute force fucking decrypt CPS two years ago so that they could fucking
put it in emulators and stuff like that ship would be kind of be gone
or or would be dwindling in a way. So it's it's it's great that
that stuff gets preserved, it's just it does put us in this weird spot
where like it's getting preserved, but it's preserving pretty quickly. Yeah, you
know, I don't know not not to make this conversational high fullutin, but
if you look at like the early days of film, like a ton of
that stuff disappeared, you know, like there are tons of pieces of film
that are just lost of time now, right, And I feel like,
you know, like the the number of games we lose to time. If
you look at what's available now and being emulated now and stuff like that,
like it's a it's a relatively small percentage of the overall whole, and it's
a lot of stuff that's like where you know, it's if it's going to
be an online only game that requires someone to be running a service, you
know, that gets difficult but not impossible. You have cases where you have
like the BS stuff, the satellite stuff in Japan, the stell you the
subtel view stuff where like it was SYNCD up with like certain times of the
day to broadcas they were broadcasting the program. So you'd be playing the legend
of Zelda and the music would be coming in off the satellite and there would
be audio coming in off there that tied into the story of the game,
and now they're people out there trying to reconstruct that as best they can in
some different ways, which sounds gargantuan but amazing. Like it'd be great to
be able to see that stuff. I remember, you know, like you
see all those magazines back then and you look at like, you know,
when they were talking about like, oh, this sness is a satellite system,
maybe it'll come to the US, you know, like they got their
own Legends of Zelda game. What the fuck is that about? Like I
wanted to see that shit, So it'd be nice to be able to see
that ship. Do you ever actually played that thing? I've done that the
bs Zelda y? Yeah, I played. Is it based on the link
to the past? Is it the same? I think it was more like
the original one, like the original game, but with updated sprites. I
think that the visuals are like linked to the past. But I think it's
more like the original game. It's been like ten years since I played it,
but yeah, yeah, and and even then, like what you were
able to play ten years ago was just a fraction of it because like that
game, like like I said, it had the time of the day,
you know, stuff kind of with the satellite broadcast all those other sync up
stuff, So like what they hacked together to let people play it on some
emulator or something is not the same way it's supposed to be. So as
they get closer, like I should check in on that and see if there
are people still making progress on that, because I haven't looked in a while.
But uh, yeah, that that stuff's always really impressive to me,
just to be able to have access to to some of that stuff years and
years and years after the fact. Yeah, I just I just became aware
of MESS over the last week, which people don't know is basically a console
equivalent of MAME, right, basically, Like it's basically just like an attempt
to collect emulation cores for like every console you can think of into one thing.
Yeah, consoles and computers and stuff like that. Yeah, And it's
like it's crazy to think if you I mean, obviously you're getting into shady
territory, but if you're to if you're to go out and collect ROM sets,
like full ROM sets of every one of the consoles represented in that thing,
like you've basically got a an entire like museum to the history of video
games. Like just sitting right there. Yeah, I mean, well,
you know, and they've got the Apple too, you know that. I
mean, some of these these computers are are better emulated elsewhere outside of MESS,
Like Mess is not perfect. I don't know that MESS actually emulates the
RST at all, right now, there are separate emulators that do. But
you know, uh yeah, there's a ton of stuff you can see that
way. You know, the X sixty eight thousand being able to like look
at like or you know, just like even just be able to see you
know, MSX metal gear, which I guess they did eventually sell. And
that's that's the kind of the other catch with this stuff is a lot of
times companies raid their own back catalog and resell that stuff, and then it
makes the emulation aspect of it feel even a little more gray a little at
that point, it's not even gray, you know, like there's nothing about
it that that's gray there. But it's great to know that this stuff is
getting preserved. I think that's the thing. When you know, people talk
about, oh, aren't you worried about modern digital games and all this stuff
getting you know, going away, It's like I'm kind of confident that people
will figure it out someday and at a certain point, just like with you
know, like long lost film being uncovered, Like at a certain point,
people care less about the ownership rights and that aspect of it. Yeah,
as time sure, and more than just the fact that it exists still,
you know, like they're just happy that somebody managed to preserve it, right.
Yeah, when we get to a point where there are no Xbox three
sixties left, someone will have figured that ship out, right, right,
even though like the original Xbox has not been emulated well at this point.
And I guess someone recently got a PS game running super slow, but it's
like kind of first first results that are not just a homebrew app or something
like that. So like that stuff. Yeah, it's always crazy how aggressive
they are with that stuff. It's like, oh, it's only one generation
removed from the current one, soil, let's get going on. Well,
you know, different teams have different levels of restraint, like Mayme used to
have. I mean, you know, keep mind, the main project's been
around for a long time, Like they were still Arcade games coming out,
and there were still Mame, so you would have a situation where like King
of Fighters two thousand was coming out and the Neo Geo was incredibly well emulated.
So yeah, the situation where like you know it like you could,
since mame is open source, people would go out there and compile their own
versions that enabled these drivers for these recent games. So the main team would
have to say, like, Okay, in the build that we distribute,
we are not going to include any game that is less than a year old,
which is you know, everyone has draw their ownline, you know,
and that was the one that they drew, but you would always you know.
It was actually probably like from the outside looking in, like the most
tumultuous time for mayme because there was so much interest surrounding it purely from people
that wanted to play new arcade games. And by and large, it seemed
like the people that we're working on main were like, fuck you, I'm
trying to get RoadBlasters to run, right, I don't give a shit about
your fucking pirate bullshit. Stop fucking using our thing. Go to the arcade.
Yeah, basically, and and there was a lot of stuff like that
around CPS two games when that was you know, like the fighting games and
stuff like that definitely attracted a very different audience. Pokemon also, you know,
there's there's a lot of you can get a lot of viruses by type
and free Pokemon PC or whatever into a search engine these days. I'm sure
I don't know where that Pokemon has been. No, you do not.
It is too shiny. Yeah, I don't know, but that that stuff's
super interesting to me, like the all the Dolphin stuff, Like like I
personally don't really care enough to run that sort of stuff. It's too it's
two reason, like it's just I'm not sure, you know, making me
want to see it though, it makes me want to do a Yeah,
you see it, you see it in motion, like you see the art
and stuff like it was it was seeing that before the EU was out.
I think it was the first thing of just like fuck man, if Nintendo
had a console that would spit out this high resolution that would be amazing.
So like you know, there was like a precursor to seeing like three D
world and stuff like that. And I'm like, yep, sure enough.
This art style works really well when it's really sharp. Oh yeah, like
the Mario Kart eight replays and stuff. Yeah, those characters, the worlds
are awesome. Yeah, did you try any other games on there besides Mario
Galaxy. No, I'm just working on that. After that, I'll probably
maybe try Twilight Princess. I've always wanted to do the GameCube version, and
then that would be way easier to map to an Xbox controller obviously. Yeah,
although, like I said, you don't get the native wide screen.
Yeah there, Yeah, you know, I'm fine with that as long as
it's just super high res or whatever. That's weird to me though, because
like wind Waker, you could hold in Bee. I don't know. I
don't know if it was one of those things where it's like that'll be one
more thing that only the WE version has, yeah, I guess, or
if they I think they only shipped, like they ship a pretty small number.
It was it was a limited number, right, Yeah, they sell
for a lot still, remember, Yeah, I want to say they only
shifted a few thousand copies of that because it was also you know, it
was also the launch game for the Wei. I guess that's a gray area
too, because like I own it on WE, but I want to play
the game game. But I mean, what is there in that game that
needs the WE remote and the sword? Right? But that's just a button,
Like just like you're doing with Mario, But like, is there anything
that's like the heavier the whole world is flipped one because they made him left
handed right or you know, he's right handed in the WE version, but
he's traditionally left handed right. That's what it is. Yeah, it's one
of those things that's huge Zelda fans like it's real serious to them, and
it's like it's always yeah, I just I don't give a shit what hand
link holds the sword and play the game same. But yeah, I want
to say that you could like aim the bow and hook shot and things like
that with the I R. You should look into it. It might still
be possible on a regular controller, Okay, Yeah, I mean if it's
sixteen by nine that would obviously be preferable. Interesting can of worms you've opened.
Yeah, but man, it looks tweeted. That's the thing because I've
played very little Galaxy and No Galaxy too, so it's like, if I
were going to play them, I might as well play them in the ideal
format, right, and it's real good m m. Yeah, Drew h
Hello, Hi, standing stoically at the end of the table. Yes,
stone face, it's been going on, uh in life? Well, last
week we finally released some of that b role. Yeah, we do.
We had it and we gave it two premium members. Yeah, all the
stuff that didn't make it into the final cuts of our Games of the Years.
Yeah, what is there? There's uh, there's extended wrestling tryouts.
There's extended Troy Baker. Yeah, so extended Jeff. I basically took everything
that the projects that had leftover footage, like for example, mine does not.
Yeah, Jason's like everything pretty much that you see there. Those are
tight shoots. Yeah, same with Brads. There's there's some guinea pig by
roll, but that would just be I mean, hey, some people might
not argue, yeah, extended guinea pig footage. Yeah, but yeah,
Jeff's had I mean Jeff's is basically I kept the camera rolling on Jeff for
like twenty minutes and that was the shoot. So I just kept that in
there. But Dan's was a little more complex to cut. But yeah,
those are up now. See me take a lot of bumps. Yep,
see Dan take a lot of hits. And our our extended version of our
Troy Baker segment. It's a talented guy. Is that all the footage?
Is that everything he recorded. Yes, it's all out there now. Yeah,
that's exciting to me. Yeah, I wanted to see all of that.
That was so easy. We just went in, we sat down,
no script or anything, and then just like what three minutes of footage or
whatever. We probably didn't have to cut anything, you know, with all
of the stuff that you put in with b roll. Oh it's interesting.
Actually, the part that made it into our Game of the Year video was
actually the end of your guys's riff session. But it's the only part I
could find that like was really nicely encapsulated in like a nice couple of minutes.
It's just like we shot like it's like seven or eight all of you
guys, yeah, sitting there, and we didn't want to put all of
it in there because we wanted to keep everything all the seconds about the same
length. So we just put in a couple of minutes of Troy Bakers saying
lick my asshole, asshole over and over again, which I'm glad, but
I kept your intro. So actually when it's it starts on you in the
beginning, and then I cut in the middle of a pan to the later
half of that riff session. So tricky cut. Good work, thank you
the magic, and then with mine like the you we recorded the fake phone
calls to like Kessler, those didn't make the final cut, right. Yeah.
Still sad that Kessler in a suit didn't happen for this thing. Yeah.
Yeah, that was one of the early ideas, and I was like,
let's not rely on too many external people and external schedules. We don't
have a lot of time to get this stuff done. Yeah. I liked
that we got to include all of your thoughts about each game, so that
if people really wanted to flesh out Bike two. Yeah. I mean,
in terms out the playable version of Bike two that's out there is missing extreme
nuances about the game Bike two. Yeah. I saw the guy going,
wait a minute, you're supposed to be able to climb ladders. I gotta
go back and go this I don't think gets updated. Yeah, yeah,
and I look forward to Bike two point two. Yeah. But Vinnie's got
some more coming. I don't know which segments exactly he has a footage from
because his went up his his what the stuff from Vinnie's shoot went up?
Oh really yeah that's on the side right now. Yeah, that went up
this morning. That's all his wilderness stuff. Okay, great, I have
not checked the website. Yeah, evidently, but yeah, what else,
Jeff, you and I played some Elite Dangerous we did. Yeah, it's
funny doing that quick look. I could not tell how long it was gone
because I was just talking about everything. I couldst think yeah, yeah,
and then it was like an hour went by. But I think that game
is cool. It looks really great. I thought about buying it. Then
it's sixty bucks and then they're selling like colors for ships if you want to
pay another seventeen or something like, Yeah, that's crazy. But I just
I'm I don't know. I wish I knew how well it controld with like
a regular like an Xbox controller. I've not tried to keyboard and seen some
people say the mouse and keyboards fine and and all that, but I just
don't know. If I want to get two into it, and I'm not
going to buy flightstick, I'm not crazy. Come on, Nope, No,
that's that's come on, do not nope, OTAs, Nope, OTAs.
There's some decent sticks out there. Basically, I think if you want
to get a stick, you definitely want to look for one with a throttle
that like you can you can get a stick that doesn't necessarily have it doesn't
have to be like an external throttle, like a separate thing. There are
sticks with just on the base of it, you'll see like a t bar
or something. What are you looking at if you want to get in at
the base level of like flight sticks set up? Like what do you think
is the budget for the like the minimum level of equipment that'll kind of let
you enjoy the feel of like actually flying the ship. Let's see, there
are a couple out there that are like under hunter Bucks. I think there's
a Madcats one called like the Fly five, which is like fifty bucks,
and then there's I think a Logitech one called the Extreme three D like thirty
bucks, and both of those have throttles. I might write like a tumbler
post or something about joysticks and stuff, but I think though before I would
get a joystick, I think I would get track. I R yeah,
because I just I find moving like having the having your head move independently from
a control device like freeze up one like a bunch of buttons, and two
like you don't have to be controlling that right right, Like if you know,
if you're playing a flight sim or something and like a guy zips by
you, you don't want to have to take your thumb off the stick to
like look look, yeah interesting. So I yeah, well maybe with that,
just I'll just wait until Yeah comes along for reels, and then maybe
by that time they'll have put a lot more into Elite because it's still it
also did seem kind of thin. Yeah, it almost feels like we're reaching
or approaching some kind of like inflection point where like all these space sims are
happening and coming together, yeah, and getting better, and all the VR
headsets are are coming to fruition. You know. It's like, yeah,
like we're approaching this glorious new future of space simulation, right or something.
Yes, just twenty thousand dollars. Yes, the elephant in the room that
I wasn't going to bring up, but yes, that also exists. Look
back into that thing. I hope. So yeah, I think we've had
this conversation before, but I certainly hope. So, Hey, if you
want to play a game right now, Really Dangerous is out? Okay?
People seem to really like it. Yeah, is there a bunch of new
stuff coming to it because I was really surprised to hear you can't like get
out of your ship on a planet. You cannot, But that is the
kind of thing that they say is coming. I think first is like I
don't know about first, but like high on the priority list is being able
to get out of your ship in the station and like walk around. There
have been some games that have done that. I think Evcron Mercenary did that
do that. I can't remember, or maybe the X series. Yeah,
people people still kind of hold a X three is kind of like where it's
at right now. Yeah, those games, but yeah, oh they're so
complicated. Elite is at least you get able, You're able to like just
jump in and play. But yeah, I think I like, I totally
understand the criticism of oh, it's one of those games you have to make
your own fun, but I would phrase it like you are in a system,
a game system that you set your own goals in. Uh, in
the system itself, I think it is fun. Yeah. So like here's
the world, there's a bunch of systems running at their own pace. Do
what you want, yeah, find a way to fit in. Yeah,
yeah, I mean that's kind of what I'm excited expecting out of a Man
Sky at this point, which seems like it's off putting to a lot of
people, but like that's kind of what those types of games are, right
right, Like that game looks like it's gonna make it simpler to move around
in the world and probably like uprade your ship and pilot it and stuff like
that. But I would imagine that the open endedness is still. Yeah,
it's like I want to build a house, right, chop down all these
tree where I want to dig to the center of the or dig to lava
or whatever, or like why are you doing it? It's like nobody told
you to do it. It's just like I just felt like it, right,
Yeah, it's like that I was presented with this scene in front of
me, and that's what That's what occurred to me. Ye, dig down.
But over the weekend, I was just up in Tahoe where there's no
snow mm hmm, So no skiing happened. But I did play some trivial
pursuit from like nineteen seventy nine sounds fun where every answer is Robert Frost,
WC. Fields or credit Garbo m and a lot of the answers are vaguely
racist. So great, that's fun. Sounds about right. I have a
really old copy of the Young Players edition of Trivial Suit that I bet would
be completely impenetrable by the people under a certain age. Yeah, that's cool.
Put some disc golf as well. When there's no snow, you gotta
make it. You gotta make it happen. I guess I got. You
gotta make your own rules this golf. You know, there's no objectives there,
there's no mission design, just holes that are actually weird chain length fence
pieces thrown together in some kind of basket. So it's a it's a goal.
It's a bowl on a pole in a hole, and that's a goal.
WHOA damn, that's heavy moving on. Holy crap, it's like fancy
horseshoes. Also that way more walking drinking. I didn't really play a lot
of new games that haven't already been discussed here. Uh, but I did
watch a documentary called sound City that you should watch, Dan, What is
Yesterday? It's about sound City, the famous recording studio in Los Angeles,
OH, where like hundreds of classic albums were cut over the years. Rock
from the seventies up through like a few years ago when they like everything you
can think of. Well, I mean, maybe not them, but yeah,
but Dylan Bad Company, Imagine is pretty good. Imagine Triumph record,
that well known rock band from the seventies through like the turn of the century.
Their footage seems like, yes, yeah, it seems like chances are
good. That is this the studio where like Dave Groll got the big board
from Sound City Big Girl directed this documentary and also got the got the mixing
board. Is it tight end of that Sonic Highways thing he's doing. Maybe
Sonic Highways is I'm just going to like famous recording things across the country and
just talking about their history. And then I bet, I bet that you
go out of this. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. But yeah,
he there's like time lapse footage of them stripping that board down and moving
it out of there. It hadn't moved in forty years. Hu Apparently the
board costs twice as much as an average house when they bought it in the
seventies. Yeah, I bet it's crazy shit, Yes, it's good.
You would enjoy it. He seems like a good guy to talk about music
with, Like I'm not a food fighters guy, but that dude seems to
really like his class. Get it gets a little deep into the like Nirvana
mythologizing part, like for part of this uh, although apparently Kurt was on
it was just like it was nothing like, nothing like that at all.
It's more just like, oh this is I wouldn't be here if it weren't
for this board, which I guess is sort of true. They record never
mind there. Yeah, it's a dumb that I considered Nirvana like one of
the modern bands I'm into, Like, that's one of them. That's about
as far forward in rock history as I'll go. It's got bad news for
you. I don't think the kid think there's new more Nirvana material coming anytime
soon. The other democracy, the other, the other bad fairness, all
right, yeah, you never know, I guess boy. The other bad
news for you is that Nirvana now occupies the space that classic rock like Zeppelin
did when we were in high school. But in terms of the gulf of
time since it came out, they're still like, you know, high school
kids that listen to Zepplin like they you know, aged well, sure,
but but that's not so old, I know. So we're weak when they
made good music. It's time for the news, okay, yeah, yeah,
stoked to hear some headlines? Sure, some things that happened in the
world whenever, whenever they're introducing the news, that's are you stoked to hear?
Some headlines were with the news. Ye, Scott Williams, Scott Pelley
every night on the news. Motherfucker's Uh. Nintendo had one of their famous
directs, yes since this time last week. Uh, And it was all
three DS oriented for the most part, except for a couple of things.
New three DS. I should say, Oh man, the new three DS.
It's coming out. Yes it is, Yes in the North America on
February thirteenth. Yes, large size only XL or get the fuck out.
That's exactly what they said. That's what you wanta said, those exact words.
Yeah, both middle fingers up might as well be what the message was.
Two hundreds, here's one hundred dollars. Boom middle finger. Here's two
hundred dollars boom double middle Yeah. Like some some ads leaked out the day
before, and some people start speculating when there was no no sign of the
smaller version on the ads that it wasn't coming out here and then sure enough,
Yeah, you go big or go home on this one. That's right.
I imagine that that is probably driven by sales figures, and it must
be the Xcel. Well out, Jeff, we like it big over here
is in America, that's right. Give me my I don't know if you've
ever tried to order an L size drink in Tokyo, but let me tell
you it's not large. Brad, I think you're one of the only people
that does not prefer the Xcel that I've talked to. I mean, give
me my hunger Man three DS. Yeah, I want a three DS that
eats like a meal. Fucking fork up in this three DS. Yes,
I was. I am one of the many people who were disappointed by this
news. The only person that I know of that's crazy. Actually, that's
not true. There are at least one to two other people in this office
that were similarly our whack job. Well I've gotten since this announcement, I've
had the chance to handle both versions of the new three DS. Yes,
and I stand by my preference, okay, because you know, the screen
did get bigger on that smaller model Proportional to the unit. It's like half
bigger half again bigger I think something like fifty percent bigger than the screen on
the regular three DS you imported or is it regional? No, that's the
problem. That's why everybody's so mad. You can't uh because and the other
thing is that the smaller version is coming out in every other territory a Europe.
It already came out in Australia, New Zealand obviously came out in Japan.
Every other territory is getting both versions, just not North America. And
you can't import it because the region. Luck, so I can understand the
uh. Yeah, they might just you know, put their foot forward here
and then have a limited right. It's very it is very possible that their
supply constrained and make enough for blah blah blah. It might come out in
six months or a year. But then again, how far are we from
a new Nitzino handheld proper? I don't know. I don't want to.
I just I don't want to do the math on any of this stuff.
It's been it's been four years since three D s even came out in America,
right, and obviously came out in Japan first, or did it?
Or was that the was that the weird case where it actually launched here first?
I think that might have been here first. Okay, so four years
period then was what we're at on this thing. And traditionally, like I
think the three D or the regular DS went like seven which was crazy.
But yeah, it still feels like we're sort of getting there, I guess.
So I don't know. So we have a new three DS here in
hand. I've performed system transfers of putting micro SD cards in them and all
the other ship mine took eight hours. Yeah, I might talk about four
What are you guys doing transferring over the Wi Fi if we guess? I
tried to do the SD thing. I didn't realize you had to like to
go into the system transfer thing and then select transfer via SD card or whatever.
Yeah, you have to do the transfer before you can copy the files.
Well, see, I copied the folder to my desktop just fine,
and then when I dragged it onto the new three DS, it didn't work
at all. So it was after the transfer. This is how I tried
to do that. So I saw, I did the transfer and whatever,
like it took way longer than it should considering it was just wirelessly transmitting you
know, four gigs of data. However much it was six, I don't
know, well under four because it fits on the four gig card that came
with the new three DS, and that took way too long. And then
I bought a thirty two gig mic rest, which is I guess the maximum
that will allow without doing some other weird shit, and then was able to
just drag the contents of the old card onto the new card on my Mac.
Actually, even and and through that engines was just fun. And then
I had to go redownload the stuff I to delete in order to patch Smash
Brothers, and I don't know whatever I go on. I mean some amount
of disbelief that the right stick on that thing is as shitty as it is.
Really that it is just like check it out, you know those yeah,
those it is. It is absolutely a think pad nub Ye're right about.
And the best thing about the think pad nub is that it will save
you when you're in a tough spot and you're like, fuck, I don't
have a real mouse here. I just need to do something quick on this
machine. I can do mouse things because it's just this built in little nib.
But it is like it is the bare minimum when it comes to a
mouse on these sorts of machines, Like the first thing you do is go,
why I need a fucking mouse? Fuck this? And so for that
to be like the right stick equivalent on this thing, like what the fuck?
So we played a game called Irona Yes, that is a Gears of
War style third person cover shooter, Yes, and using that nub to look
around. I found to be uncomfortable, not a viable in that game,
in particular because because you are aiming a gun with that thing, yeah,
and shooting. I had to turn the sensitivity on the seat. It's called
the sea stick, right, yeah, it is. In that particular game
I had to turn that we played at their event last week. I had
to turn the sensitivity almost all the way down to be able to comfortably aim
and shoot at things because it's it's super sensitive, just like those Yeah,
I think bad nubs, you know, like you barely put any pressure on
it, and it's taking input. So if you treat it like a proper
analog stick and jam it all the way in the direction you want to go,
like, they're just gonna stilty, and I necessarily have trouble aiming with
it. I just find it completely uncomfortable to use. I don't know,
for like, when I played MAJORA and Zeno Blade there uh for something to
like just camera control, it seemed a lot more useful. And that's gonna
be ninety percent of the steth This is the three DS. It's not you
know, well, I mean Call of Duty even mind there's gonna be twelve
games that support any of this ship anyway. Yeah, yeah, you know,
like when by the time they're done, you're gonna be like, oh
right, I forgot, Like the only I guess there actually have been where
I was going to say the only time they've successfully iterated was the Game Boy
Color. But well, how many DSi exclusives were there, like accounts,
account like the store aspect of the DSIE Like, I think there are already
more new three DS only games announced than there ever were DSi only games period.
No, because there's one DSi or one new three DS game announced,
it's only z Yeah, there are ones that will utilize the stick and everything
like you can play everything else is the codenames team is not only on three
D. It's even Ironfall was is will use the touch screen for aiming.
Okay, that's a fallback. So that's the thing is, like, you
know, how many games are gonna, you know, a take advantage of
any aspect of the new three DS, and how many games will then require
the new three DS? Like I feel like we're looking at a supremely low
number, right, I'm loving it as I played through MAJORA, Like,
just having that level of camera control is awesome, especially considering it's nice to
have almost necessary. Yeah, you know, Jeffy not like it because of
the placement or just using that thing. I think the placement's a little weird.
I think, you know, with the options they had, it's fine,
but I just I just don't like to feel that nub. I just
I think it's a it's a bad it's a bad control thing. It's hard
to imagine what else they could have crammed into the form factor of that thing,
though, because it's already so small. What if you bolted on an
external shell that had a little stick on the right or something like that.
It could be full size at that point. We could put us some extra
buttons up top. I don't know, whatever you want to do, that's
smart thinking what color are the face buttons. They are normal, they preserve.
So it's all the same as Japan in that the XCEL has the flat
colored buttons, but with the colored like text on them. The names of
the buttons are colored. It was the smaller three DS that had the actual
Famcom colored buttons, and since that's not coming out of your period, who
could say what color it would have been. Also, it does not come
with a power A. Yeah, you know. My instinct when people started
writing articles about that was like, Bad's not a big deal. Whatever.
You ca get them for seven or eight dollars on Amazon, which I did
buy one on Amazon. But I changed my tune when I was doing this
system transfer because I started at like twelve thirty or one at night, just
thinking like, okay, I'll just start this and have a go overnight,
and then I realized that it was taking forever, like you know, I
waited like an hour and it wasn't anywhere near like you know, ten or
fifteen percent, and I was like, oh shit, I need to go
to bed at some point. But I can only have one plugged in at
one time, so I had to set my alarm every hour and a half
throughout the night, wake up I had them both sitting on my bed unplugged,
one plugging the other like a nightmare. It kind of sucked. I
ended up doing something similar. It sucks. This is why you don't do
the wireless transfer. Yeah. Yeah, for all, I was going from
full size SD to microst Like, you know, what are you supposed to
do? I mean you moved your PC. Yeah, you copy the contents
through the PC. Is that's something that's still you have to go. But
you still have to initiate the system transfer. You have to do that.
But then that's when it asked you. I feel like the writing on the
prompt for that terrible. Also, you have to use a screwdriver to get
the microst D out and that was not an option at that time. You're
a shame because so I did a three DS transfer like pretty early in the
lifespan of the system. Yeah, and it was very straightforward, and like
I was like, wow, this is very Unintendo, Like, well,
it's easy to do and it works. But at some point they started having
your Nintendo I D and you know, like the amount of data they're storing
on on the system itself, the system transfer process has got gotten way more
confusing. I was like say, no, if you're using mic res D,
And I'm like, well, I am, but I don't know,
but not in the way that they're saying I am. They don't. They're
living like the prompts of the system transfer process. We're not. Obviously.
They don't even use natural language to refer to a lot of things in those
things, like they you know, they call there's the target system the SD
card, Like yeah, when it says the SD card, you know,
they were talking about the big one, not the micro like it's it's all.
It's all very kind of of twos. Did you have any trouble with
actually like unscrewing, Like I was able to find just like some eyeglasses screw
drivers and take the screws out and then I was forcing it. Yeah,
no, I mean you have the screws, don't come all the way out.
You just you were loosening the screws and then prying the back cover off.
It has handles on the sides for you to do that. It's not
which and in the manual it says that you're supposed to use the end of
the stylist to kind of like prop it open. But I was trying with
my fingers and with the prop way they told me, and it felt wrong,
like I was about to break the back. It has like like slots
on either side of it that are clearly there for you to just grab it
and rip it the fuck off. So so I did that. It was
fine too well. Yeah, but yeah, so, and I had recently
purchased a tiny screwdriver set because I needed like a security screw to open up
a CPS two board that I had that had exploded. I already have range
of screw driver sizes because I like to do things. I have things often
require screw drivers. Have a dire mess of tools, like I've got three
different toolboxes, but it's just like tools that have collected and you know,
half socket sets because some roommates stole half of them out. Just like it's
just a fucking wreck a lot of tools, but I don't know where anything
really is. Yeah, but they still come in handy. Yeah. So
I ended up having to buy another Allen wrench set over the weekend because I
was building this old TV stand and like, realize, I have no idea
where mine are. So yeah, that's how tools are around my place.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know what to drove these decisions, you
know, to go to Mike Rust to incorporate screws into the process. It's
safe space, you know, and you know and Mike Rust like you're you
know, you're probably never going to access it during place. You don't necessarily
need to have it super user accessible, right. I do like that it
loads a lot faster, like Smash Brothers that they load up and do it
side by side, like it is way fastern. Well that would a lot
of that would also depend on how fast your SD card is and that kind
of thing. Yeah, yeah, but which if someone is going to buy
one, get it on Amazon. I went to Radio Shock because I wanted
it, like the day I got the system. Yeah, it's like they
were way more expensive. Sure, yes, and also, you know SD
cards is so cheap, you might as well get the Class ten or whatever
the fast US I went with. But again, like with some of these
some of these, uh, some of these design quirks that people were somewhat
upset about, like just like the absence of the smaller three ds. At
a certain point, I'm left asking, like, you know, how long
it's the stop gap even gonna matter before the next real handheld comes out,
you know, yeah, like, are you gonna buy this thing? Do
the transfer, play MAJORA, and then put it back in the drawer.
I feel like they've done an incredibly like even coming out of the event and
playing games that you know, like take advantage of the right stick in some
cases, I feel like they still have done an incredibly poor job of making
the case for the new three D s and why you would actually really want
one, which is just like just like what happened with the DSi, where
it was like, well, all these things together, these new features make
this thing sound pretty cool. Yeah, and then do they do absolutely nothing
with them? Right, and then a year and a half later, a
new hand it becomes telling at that point that it doesn't have a an adapter
boxed in with it, because they are clearly selling these people that already have
one. Right. I might be alone on this one, but I really
do think the head tracking three D thing makes a pretty big improved I've liked
what I've seen. It hasn't worked for ship or when it. When it
works, it's fine, but it has been incredibly spotty. See I went
with the last one. I always had three D off on every game really
no exceptions like each one. You know, I'd play like a race and
Mario Kart with three D and be like, all right, well that's the
last time I'll do that with this. I well, okay, why why
why would you turn it off? Like what was wrong with it? Because
of the kind of sweet spot thing where it's like if you even a little
bit didn't like having to look at it dead on all the time. Yeah,
Like I like the idea of three D if it worked and it wasn't
so finicky like it was before. And now you know, I'm playing through
MAJORA and I've had it turned up the entire time, and I think it
looks really good. And I mean, if you're not making these big weird
movements with your head, which why would you be when you're playing games,
it's pretty good. It will occasionally freak out, like if you look away,
like I sneeze or some thing that I look back, it takes a
second to just be like, oh wait, where do your eyes go?
Okay? There, okay, here's the three D Like the three D flips
out while it is looking for your eyes. Yeah, but that's rare enough
to where I think it's fine playing with the three D. Maybe I'm looking
way more frequently, but I feel like that thing is constantly losing track of
my eyes and just wigging out even when I'm looking at it directly. And
maybe it's the lighting in the room. Like it seems like they're just a
number of different factors that they call it super smart three D is that what
they call it? Something like that or super stable three D whatever. They
have a term for it that you can then go in and disable, and
I'm pretty close to just disabling it because I didn't have any problem with the
three D as it existed on the regular three D ash Wow, Like it's
yeah, I mean it's it's a narrow field of view, but like it's
fine. It's how it's You're looking at it straight on like you would look
at it while you were playing it anyway, and so having that wide range
of motion like is somewhat convenient, but not it's not some big game changer.
I don't I don't know what do you think the odds are that their
next handheld will even have three D existing? It'll be four K Like it's
sure, you look curved. It's weird though, It's like the three S
is such an obvious reminder of consoles as like artifacts of the times in which
they were designed. Yeah, because you know, three D s came out
right around the time that like Avatar became the highest grossing movie of all time,
and like the TV industry was going ape shit over three dright, like
it just seemed like the thing you needed. And now yeah, like right
exactly, like who wants three D anything at this point? Right? Yeah,
I am surprised that you've had so much trouble with the head tracking thing,
because like most of my play has been on the train and so like
sometimes it's out in the sun, sometimes it's underground and I'm kind of moving
around a little bit, and yeah, lighting situations and movement and everything,
and it has not been bad for me at all. If you should probably
try to play without your snake eyes sunglasses. Okay, that's that's that might
maybe that is the problem not helping I like to be cool while to play
video games and stuff, So that's a no go. Yeah. And then
also, like it started, it defaults to automatic brightness. Yes, that
was we both had. I think Brad and I both had cases where it
was just it was just cycling up and back down out. It is something
very wrong with the system. I have never liked that feature in any electronic
ever. Yeah, phones, anything, Yeah, I hate that. So
I turned that off and pumped it all the way up and said, burn
out, my fucking redness, let's go. Yep. I guess you know,
I guess it's a time will tell sort of thing with the new three
DS, based on what kind of support it gets, right sure, Yeah,
Like I saw I saw Zeno Blade at that event, and like it
looked nice, you know, it didn't yeah, and maybe didn't quite look
up to what I remember the WE version, but it was close. Yeah.
So you know, if there's more stuff like that, I guess it
justifies its existence. But yeah, well yeah, but also you know,
it's one of those things where if people don't own a three DS and they're
looking to get in as the library has become bigger, like you know,
it's it's a decent price for us. What's been a solid system. Yeah,
you know, the quality is nice. Like the games that that do
take advantage of the extra buttons and features like take nice advantage of them,
Like any kind of game that has camera controls are aiming or something like that.
Like using the stylist to aim in any kind of dual joysticky kind of
shooter just sucks. So as much as that nub is a pain in the
ass, like I at least can appreciate that it's there. Yeah, but
it depends on what uses it. You know. It's like I went and
played Smash Brothers just to see if it worked yet or if that was a
patch they had to put out because the system's not out in this territory yet,
And yeah it works. I was like, Okay, yep, I
can do smash tacks with that. Never gonna do that again. And that's
I mean that's specific Smash Brothers, I guess, but yeah, I don't
know, man, it's it's it's feels needless. The whole thing feels needless.
They need more games out there that are pushing why you would want that
stuff. Sure, whether it's for the the you know, more powerful hardware
itself, or whether it's extra control stuff like they just need more cases where
they can say look at this, you need one of these, and they
just haven't done that yet. Yeah, it remains to be seen if they
will. February thirteenth, ninety nine in North America. The other excels dropping
I would have, and they're just going to discontinue them, I would think,
than sell out the stock and then it'll be it. I guess.
Yeah, And then they've got bundled versions for like two twenty nine or something,
right, Monster Hunter one that was sold out in seconds or whatever.
But poor fucking bastards or is really good on it. It's it's better going
back to that expected. I'm gonna give Majora another chance. Yeah, I'm
my yes, Brad. But I went to I went to the event and
played some of it there, and there was at a point where I was
like, oh, I need to swap masks to talk to this guy.
I was like, oh, wait, fuck this game. Wait a minute,
changed my mind. Oh but you can put it on a touch screen,
so you just tap it and then you're you know, whatever I did,
I did it was still like that, like in making it slightly easier
to switch masks appreciated, but doesn't actually solve anything. There's so much different
stuff you can do. Thanks then to my to my recollection. If it
wasn't the day of release, it was very close to the day of release.
When I bought Majora's Mask and played it once and never touched again.
So, you know, I feel like I owe it to my self to
give it another shot. I think I might be the same way I played.
I did you do the full thing? Got the Fierce Ddy mask and
all that stuff? You got all twenty four? Sorry? What oh the
Fierce Dity mask? No? No, he played it the day it came
out. I mean I literally played it for one session. Oh to play
it. Oh, you need to give it a shot. It's one of
the most unique games it god ever played. Got to if I remember,
it's really fucking weird. Will I will grant you that I remember correctly.
I got to the end of the first dungeon and then had to like time
ran out and have to do the entire thing again. Yeah, I'm not
going to do that, Brad, And I put it in a box and
I never played it again. Brad, I wanted to keep playing this game,
and I want to talk about it on future BombCast right because I'm gonna
be playing through it too. It is a fantastically weird and awesome I'll see,
I'll see what I can do. It was a game that was,
you know, an impressive technical achievement. In its day, if you were
reviewing games on a site that had graphics and sound scores, you would give
those very high marks. How ballsy is that game? To like? You
take, you know, this pride and joy of Nintendo Zelda. You know,
it's just one of the most important games here of all time, and
just throw a bunch of super weird shit. And it was only the play
Dave works and it's good and it's and it's bad. It's both. It's
one of the best, it's super it's super interesting that they took all these
risks and guess what, notice that they haven't done it since because fuck that
game. It's so polarizing. It's doing something right. It's so good.
It's so good. I'm liking it more now the time stuff and just how
weird and dark it is. It just gets graham as you get near that
third day, a little subtle things like the music. It's it's just such
a great game. All right, it's so bord. I'll take your word
for it. I'll see what I can do with it. Just play Dead
Rising one and said, okay for your games with time constrolled, dude,
Oh no, that's how you do that, it's gonna drive around underground and
run over zombies. Yeah, so awesome. I had to get like seventy
thousand kills or something. First Dead Rising was Oh man, it was hard.
It was such a weird thing. Fifty twenty point achievements which were incredibly
easy, some of which were damn near. Were all fun achievements like bowling
over zon. Yes, that was that was I mean, that is That
is the game. That's like put it down as the game that made achievements
matter. I don't remember a game before that. I know so many people
that spend all that time driving around in the parking ride or whatever. But
just like they just they made the achievements all weird, weird things you needed
to use the game mechanics to pull off, you know, instead of just
like killed eighty of these guys, like where did this helmet? And killed
these things with this weapon? Uh more. Nintendo News, let's just pound
through it. New amibos are coming out great, like a lot of them.
There will be new marths. Oh yeah, yeah, get your Marthon.
A new fire emblement is coming without a title. What Get your Marthon
again? Yeah it's yeah yeah. Wait yeah, I'm sorry. I was
thinking I was mixing up Marth and Schulk. Chulk is from the weird Zena
Blade things. Yeah, yeah, funny how that might happen. I can
Marth are fire emblem. Uh, there's the the we games coming out on
WEU that I mentioned. Mario Galaxy two already came out ten bucks. Yeah,
they're they're twenty dollars regular, but all all will be ten bucks for
the first week. It's my favorite Nintendo candy. I have a reminder on
my phone set to buy punch Out in two days when it comes out on
Thursday. Yep, I'm underrated because I never played punch Out on the Wii.
It did a really good job, and that seems like a good thing
I have. It's Yeah, it's Mario Galaxy two, punch Out, and
Metroid Prime Trilogy. They're all real good games. They're really pulling the rug
out from under the Metroid Prime trilogy the whole Yeah, it's ten bucks for
the whole trilogy. Yeah, oh shit. And it's the it's the WEE
version that does ye screen and has the WU or though the we controller support.
Oh man. But yeah, they they made very few copies of that,
so it was like a pretty valuable WE game, but now you can
just get it. I'm sell in the mood to play through Metrod Prime again.
We code name Steam is coming out March thirteenth. That looks really cool.
It was cool I played that that. Nintendo e vented Abraham Lincoln leading
some kind of force to fight stuff. Yes, aliens perhaps, yeah,
some like x comp stuff, but with more direct control. And if there
will be any mounted bears in the game unknown. High Rule Warriors DLC coming
out in February, Puzzle and Dragons, you guys know about that. There
should be some sort of like if you buy the High Rule Warriors DLC,
you're added to a list some kind of Yeah, you're on the no fly
list because you bought High Rule A. We know you bought High Rule Warriors
because and then you liked it enough to buy add on content the register as
an offender. If some type that list is called Club Nintendo, Yeah,
discontinuing club. Yeah, I've got bad news for you day. Go around
door to door. Tell your name is, like, hey, I bought
the High roul Warriors DLC. I'm sorry how many surveys I answered on Club
Nintendo we'll get to that. Yeah, don't let me get there. Almost
there, Okay, a few more bullet points. Oh yeah, the Puzzle
and Dragon stuff is coming out in May. Yes, it's like a combo
pack. Yeah, Puzzle Dragons Zuzz Dragon z and also the Super Mario Brothers
addition, both in the same package. Yeah, that's cool. U is
he gonna Blade coming for three DS? And April Splatoon coming to we you
and may good Good here is quietly maybe the most interesting thing, or maybe
that will never happen again. Uh, they're putting out a cross by game.
Yeah, Mario Versus Donkey Kong Tipping Stars. If you buy it on
the console, you get it on the handheld for free, or vice versa
March fifth, that's coming. Yeah. I don't know if And again,
like who knows what their next handheld will be, if there is one,
or like what Nintendo's strategy is going to be going forward, or if they're
finally just gonna unify the Sure you'd like to think that the handheld and the
console and one product or whatever, but like, at least they're thinking about
this stuff for the future. I hope. Uh, Mario O Versus Donkey
Kong has been a good series. Yeah, those games are cool. I
totally missed this. Pokemon Shuffle coming for free to the shop is a Pokemon
themed puzzle game. And isn't Pokemon Shuffle just puzzling dragons? Maybe there's Pokemon
Puzzle League on sixty four that's just a demo for the actual P and D
product. Uh, Kirby and the Rainbow because I mean it's like a clone
of it is like a weird so weird. Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe yeah, that that new Kirby game, Rainbow Curse, coming out February
twentieth. Okaye. And then I knew Rhythm Tangoku game got announced for Japan
and not and not North America. Is that the Rhythm Heaven? Serious?
Yeah? I guess that is Rhythm Heaven. Those are great games for three
D s. You say, yeah, I believe it is three years.
Alex's story does not say I believe it is it is three days? Fire
him all right, do it now? Okay? Uh? And then yeah,
some pretty sad news that actually just came about this morning. Is it
sad? I don't know? Clubs shutting down? Uh, it's it was,
I don't know. I never got anything of value. It was like
you would get games occasionally, but yeah, sure, like it's it's such
a buonter because the for years, the stories about Club Nintendo coming out of
Japan were so amazing. Oh yeah, this is the Japanese prizes were higher
qualities, and like, wasn't there this is some apocrypha about like Club Nintendo
members got to test games or some crazy shit. I don't know no idea
about that, but anyway, Club Nintendo finally end up coming here a few
years ago, and then it was like get your hand towels. Yep,
there's a calendar. Here's a canvas bast calendar with a mushroom monitors, three
small link posters. Yes, yeah, here's here's a here's a game case
that will hold three of your three DS cartridges. But it's got an anmacrossing
dog on it. Right, Like it was that stuff was not great,
so maybe it's for the best. They did say that there is some sort
of replacement rewards program or loyalty program will be forthcoming. What about the coins
you have, because I have like probably over a certain you have a certain
amount of time to redeem them. Yeah, check the story. INSIGHT's got
all the dates for like, you can only do this until the state that
kind of thing. You gotta go figure out what I want while chains,
that sounds way better than anything they would actually offer already have a while chains.
So, yeah, did you get it from Club Nintendo? I got
it from Nintendo and Redmond when I went there. Have you been there to
get shot of the store or whatever? I've never been here, but yes,
yeah, I bought one there at NCL anyway, Okay, sorry,
yeah, yeah I misheard. Yeah, I feel like I feel like Nintendo's
kind of they're back to. They're back to kind of like weird, scrappy,
slightly desperate Nintendo. You know, like the era of the insane runaway
success that is the we into a lesser extent of DS. Yeah, like
the we Nintendo was an aloof Nintendo. That was just like, this thing's
very popular or not. We're going not going to show so much of our
hand here to reveal the fact that we are not sure why it is popular,
but we are just going to ride this wave. Yeah. Uh,
now they're back in like I don't want to say dire straits, but no,
no, certainly not. But you know, their future seems somewhat uncertain.
Uh, they probably have the money. Hey, I don't know.
I'm gonna put go on a limb here. I don't think Nintendo is going
to go say the future is uncertain. I don't mean like they're going to
file Chapter eleven or something. I mean like they're gonna change their products.
Their next moves are not clear. Yeah, and were slowly, you know,
getting its own library. That's pretty good. Yeah. I don't know
that sales are so dire for that thing though. It's like at a point
Bonetta and Smash kind of bump it a little bit. Really. No,
no, no, I think actually the console numbers did not move. Yes,
like Smash Brothers move copies. I haven't seen I haven't seen the December
impds, but the November ones hardware sales absolutely did not reflect the the the
impact of Smash Brothers as as a software release. That was one of the
few systems I bought. And then it was like Jesus Christ, I spent
three hundred and fifty dollars on this thing, and then like there was nothing
I wanted to play, oh Man, Mass Effect three, God Launch Title,
Batman with Extra Armor. I played Mario You and then got what was
Pickman three, the next big one that came out. Well, there's you
know, a zombie you I got that, and I didn't like that very
much. Did some interesting stuff, charm you know, it was doing things
with the hardware of that it was trying. Yeah, yeah, back when
there were third party games that came out for that thing, now like what
I know, Yeah, what are you gonna do? Play more Funky Barn
Dogs? Right? Yeah, that came. Yeah, that eventually came out,
didn't it. Advanced Warfare never did did it? Ghost did? Ghost
did? Yeah. I don't think Advanced Warfare came out. There's been there's
been like I don't even want to call it scuttle butt because I don't think
there's any factual basis for it. I think it's more like wish fulfillment type
stuff and anything. But like, I feel like there's been this whole sort
of buzz online about people trying to connect the dots and prove that Nintenna was
going to announce a new console in the next year or something like that,
like because I mean, you know, like if if if one worked to
be announced this year and release next holiday, that would put it four years
out. From the WU, which is not completely unheard of. You know
the Xbox. Yeah, first that's cut off first XBO territory, like the
Xbox it was shut down after four years. Uh, but you know it's
that's fine, you know, sure, like announcing new Nintendo platform. But
what is it? Yeah, you know, we're not far enough out from
the EU for like what's the you know, they would have had to start
making their pivot moves a year out, a year after the we use released
at the absolute latest or something like, you know, as technology advanced enough
are they you know, like what what would they do that would make a
difference. And that's what I mean when I say their their future is uncertain
because what do they put out? I mean the hardware gap between the EU
and the current platforms prevents them from getting the easy ports. But that's not
gonna turn their fortunes around like those you know, they got that at the
beginning of the WEIU and no one fucking cared. It's that doesn't matter,
you know, It's it's not about the hardware. There's nothing wrong with the
WU. It's about what do they do to get it into people's hands?
Like, you know, what are what are the games that they're developing,
what are they doing to better the WU And that's the sort of stuff I
think you look at and go like, well, they they sold. You
know, Like the reason the Smash didn't necessarily move consoles is because it moved
consoles a year ago, because you know, people were buying the console because
they knew that was going to come. Yeah. Uh, you know,
And that's not necessarily a bad thing. It just means that, you know,
that's that's about how popular or something like Smash Brothers probably really is.
You think in twenty fifteen that a new full on Zelda moves more hardware units
than Smash Brothers. Probably think, yeah, my boy. I mean,
if you're asking me, is the legend of Zelda bigger than Smash Brothers?
Absolutely right? But I mean, like, you know, this Zelda coming
out this holiday, you know, does that move more we use than Smash
Brothers? I was too early to tell. I would say the audience,
the potential audience for aid good, new sprawling Zelda game is definitely bigger than
the current WEU install days. Everything looks great, yeah, because I think
there there are plenty of fans of Nintendo's games that you know, probably haven't
taken the plunge yet because they feel like there's not enough. A new Zelda
comes out and looks amazing, that could tip a lot of those people if
it's something where it's like, well, I can't miss this, like this
is this is a landmark moment because they have finally made a good departure from
the Zelda formula and and and that would tip some people that would then go
like, well, okay, great, now I get to play Bandet too.
Now I get to get this version of Smash Brothers. Now I get
to get this. But yeah, I don't know. It's like the people
that are trying to like speculate Nintendo into making a new a new console,
I just I don't see it, and and like, yeah, that doesn't
like maybe it'll happen, but I feel like I feel like whatever Nintendo's next
move is, it has to be bigger than hey, we made a new
console. It has to be like and you know, it's like a lot
of people talk about like that idea of like unifying because they've just been fucking
killing it on handhelds for a good long time, just doing really great stuff.
And there's a lot of great stuff for the three DS that you know,
like I would much rather play on a bigger screen, and so like
that concept is I find really appealing. Yeah, the idea of like,
well, you know, it's it's portable system because then we can sell Pokemon
games to kids, Like that's our that's our actual bread and butter, you
know, in a big, big way. But we still want to appeal
to this wider audience. So we want to make sure that it can do
this, that can do this and still look up to a TV and spit
this out. And you know, I think that's a really that's a really
exciting move to me. Like if they were to do that, I would
be pretty psyched about it because it's it's you know, it's Nintendo delivering what
they're best at to all players instead of splitting the difference between these two platforms
in such a way where you're you're just pissed. It's almost it's almost like
taking the groundwork that Sony has done to an extent with the cross by and
cross save and that kind of thing, and like taking it to its logical
extreme. Right, Yeah, like we are the best in the business at
this type of handheld Like we were going to leverage that against them. And
even if it's a dual screen handheld and they still have to sell a tablet
controller like the WU or something, fine, total, But if it all
works together, right, sure, like it could be amazing. Like if
I could just play three DS games on the WU, I would use my
WIU a lot more sure. Yeah, yeah, uncertain times. Yeah for
those guys, uh, Jeff to read this headline, sid Meyer's Starships were
meant to fly? Yeah, explain that. Uh. Sid Meyer has announced
a new game called Starships. Got it to spin off from Beyond Earth.
Okay, Uh, it is a strategy game. It's coming. I know,
weird. Well actually, actually, I just want you to explain the
headline. Oh no, that's what you don't explain, you dumb. I
didn't know if it was a reference to something that I'm missing. Okay,
I'll ask you later. Yeah I didn't. I didn't get the reference.
You're an old man, Brad. Yeah that's all I can say. All
right, Even I know that reference, Bratt. That's a Nicki Minash song.
Yes, Oh okay, yeah, Truffle Butter. Not a lot of
radios around here. Yeah. So, yeah, they announced Starships this game
is supposed becoming a relatively quickly here, but I guess it sounds like it's
maybe some kind of smaller team for Access that is working with sid Meyer of
the sid Meyer fame, Yes, to have this game that is set in
space. It is a rategy game just coming to Mac, PC and iPad.
A lot of people seemed pretty disappointed, but it's it's the interest cinematics,
so it's not necessarily super in depth about it. I feel like a
lot of people were pretty disappointed with Beyond Earth. Yeah, and and I'm
not enough of a fan of, uh the that type of strategy work coming
from sid Meyer to tell you why, well, you you've assuming you were
being literal, you've already kind of outlined the one thing that Beyond Earth was
missing, which is being set in space. Yep. Yeah, Like if
this, if this follows on from the concept of Beyond Earth and now it's
in space, if this actually takes place in space, because that's what I
thought Beyond Earth it's gonna be there's a fucking fat hex in space SpaceX Yes,
yes, all right, okay, good like like finding out that Beyond
Earth was just survived but on the planets that are not Earth as opposed to
like the kind of galaxy spanning. Sure what this thing sounds like it's going
to be. That was the disappointment. I think, Yeah, so you
know this, this is that in a way. I don't know. I
can't tell you one way or the other if that's going to be appealing to
people. There'll be more news on it coming out of packs South this weekend.
I guess I think they're doing a panel or something. Yeah, of
some kind there leave someone in this building is hosting some panel, so that
stands to reason. Yeah, well that's exciting to hear. Australian people are
probably not super excited that hotline Miami two has been de facto banned there.
Oh yeah, I thought that we were past this. Like what the Australian
Ratings Board refusing to classify? I thought, I thought that tale is all
the time that they had added a new rating in order to prevent them from
refusing class Didn't they add al eighteen? Didn't that happen? I feel like
Mortal Kombats coming out there now and they can finally enjoy getting up. Oh
you know what, I just I won't read the there's a pretty lengthy and
explicit, uh summary of the scene that they're objecting to. But at the
end of that, this depiction of implied sexual violence exceeds I guess keyword being
exceeds what can be accommodated within the R eighteen plus classification category. The plus
is apparently not enough. I guess not. So you know you need an
R e teen plus plus. Yeah, and then you're good. Interesting.
Yeah, so that's still happening. Uh, there's you know, a statement
out from Devolver about how they are not going to change anything and they're just
pointed and blah blah blah. But it's not like they're going to make an
edited or censored version for Australia. Yeah. Yeah, so I know,
I suspect there will be ways for Australians to play that game if they like.
Sure it is likely to happen. Yeah, but you know, games
casting a wider and wider net. Sure, I guess more and more of
the stuff is likely too. Yeah. No, I'm extremely curious to see
how that game shapes up. Yes, what's up with the cover of In
Miami two? Is Phil Fish the main character? Wasn't he always? I'm
gonna say, you're always just wearing the masks. I canna say, yes,
uh that happened. Uh the Xbox One, Okay, I've heard of
that. It's three ninety nine, and then it's three forty nine, and
then it's three ninety nine again, and how it's three forty nine again.
All right, So yeah, they had that big sale around Christmas. We
like selling these things, right, As it turns out, we liked it
when people were buying it. Yeah, it's like such a over drives two
dollars. I don't know, God, damn, it seems like such an
obvious move. Yeah, Like, so, yeah, they had this,
they had this big thing over the holidays that it was down to three forty
nine without connecting two games or with sorry, without connect with two games.
Yeah. Uh, and apparently did quite well. I mean they you know,
they went in a leading console for November. In December, they moved
them by a healthy margin I understand. But they went into that saying like,
yeah, this is a holiday sale. You know. They all but
said like, don't get too attached to the price, right, even though
a bunch of people said like they'd be crazy to bring the price back up,
And then they brought the price back up I mean, you got to
have consequences for the people that didn't act. I guess, but the price
was only how how long are you willing to go? Less than two weeks
apparently is the answer, because as of the fifteenth it was back to three
forty nine. Alex's dex says. Microsoft says this won't be a permanent drop,
but gives no time frame for when the promotion will end. Here's when
the promotion will end. When they pass Sony in the US. Okay,
got it? When when they can say we are the leading console in the
US, they will say it's three ninety nine. Yeah, and then see
how maybe that's that's my guest. Oh, I wonder how people feel who
bought Xbox ones in that less than two week long window. Oh god,
damn. Yeah. Then actually that's pretty terrible. Yeah, that really stinks.
I don't know if this current three forty nine skew still comes with the
games or not. Well, I guess they're still selling the bundles, right,
Like bundles is still out there, so I guess you could still get
it for that price. Uh yeah, cheap consoles, right, Dan,
Yes, thank you? I paid five hundred dollars for that Okay, yeah,
yeah, that's that's more than three fifty with three games. Yeah yeah,
that's yeah. I paid that with no games. Yep. So we
got connects though, Yeah, I got connects. I mean whatever. I've
got my three DS Ambassador certificate. Yeah yeah, I got that system transferred
over some of the new three DS thankfully where that badge with pride, Yeah
you were there. I was there. I remember waking up and getting that
email from Nintendo. I just been like fuck, because yeah, I was
what two hundred and fifty dollars for the three Ds at first? And then
what did they bring it down to, like was on one seventy nine?
It was like a huge drop one Yeah, and I bought it at launched
and played Street Fighter for like three times. Like I remember the I remember
the Ambassador stuff, but I had completely forgotten the reason that all happened was
because I think was yeah, yeah, it wasn't nobody was buying that thing,
but there wasn't any And then like their Ambassador make good was like here's
a bunch of like virtual console games that are missing some of the features that
proper virtual cossol games have, yes, like safe stays or other it doesn't
have that source. And then like two of the ten ended up getting updated
with those feature yeah, and then and that was so they could put them
on sale. I think they were like, you know, and also,
we have no plans to ever sell these games separately from this. It's like,
oh, well, what you just like already emulated that mapper of any
s hardware and you're just like, well, but yeah, if you have
Ustial's Island down your three D s now, I don't you have a license
that would let you have that for free if you wanted? Great, Yeah,
all exercise my rights here one of these days. I'm sure it's not
even close to through. Oh yeah, it's a top fifteen platform or ever.
Yeah, okay, yeah, sure, it's the fifteenth best platform ever
made. I'd put Bubbsy. I put Bubbsy. Wait which Bubbsy the first
three? First one? Okay? Yeah, three D yes, bubbs the
Art Museum one. All right, Well, I guess we'll keep our eye
on console prices because of what we do. Yeah, yeah, totally.
I mean three forty nine is a nice price to pick up a new console.
That's uh yeah, and you know, uh, I guess Sony has
permanently packed in the Last of US Freemastered? Is that permanent? Really?
Is it? Last of WAS Remasters? Was it just the left behind DLC?
That can't a weird standalone thing? Am I crazy? Surely that's not
the case. It has to be the full game, right, That would
be a weird standalone thing because you kind of got to know more about that
character and the main games really appreciate it. Yeah. And then plus,
it's not even it wasn't even set up to run by itself. I'm not
seeing oh here it is on Walmart dot com. Yeah, I'm It's hard
to say, but my understanding was that, yeah, that that game was
just being concluded period with PS fours now pack is Yeah, back, that's
a good pack. End. Yeah, that's that's a whole of a game
to start with. Beats the Destiny pack, end the game with that white
one. That's cool if I got that one. Yeah, it's a physical
copy of the game sitting on my shelf where it will stay for probably ever.
Yeah, don't worry. By the time you get back to it,
they will have made it way easier, gets a maximum level, so they
should I just play it in like six months and it might be fun.
Hey, your destiny is coming. That's right? Oh cool? Be ready?
Uh, last story that I've got unless anything else crazy happened that I
missed once. I mean, I don't know story, so I can't GTAPC.
You getting delayed again. Yes, it's coming out of year from now.
Oh cool, okay, enjoy Robotoke Robert Bowling Studio. Yes, Robert
Bowling, formerly of Infinity Award Fame, Yes or zero two. Yes,
one Shots Center Mass. Yes, the Internet's for zero two. Mere weeks
after his company had the show closing trailer at the Game Awards, Robotoke has
ceased operations. Yeah. They were making Human Element, which I don't think
they showed in the gameplay in that trailer at the end of that show,
but it was well something where they had recently got out there as I think
as part of that reveal and kind of said, like, it's not a
free to play game anymore, it's gonna be out in November. We're working
on this. You know. They kind of had pivoted again, right,
you know, but that game when they were first getting started, at one
point they were like, you know, like they say they were going to
make an Uya prequel to that thing, right, because they were operating when
the Uya was hot there for that week and a half and people were like,
well, I guess we'll put it out on the Uhia because they're throwing
money around. I guess are there's people significant? You know, before anyone
got their hands on one to realize it was a shit show. Well,
he was one of the top backers bowling. Yeah, his name is on
my Uya. It's like notch and then four zero two right after engraved the
top backers on the first run ridiculous. It's pretty weird. So that puts
the you know when when you go back and look at you know what they
did, like having that trailer closed the show and with the statement I guess
that the Bowling gave to JOYCETI read the quote here yea. This week,
we have ceased operations of Rubatokei and the development on Human Element is on a
hiatus. We were actively negotiating a new publishing deal for the premium version,
premium version of Human Element, you know, meaning not the Uya prequel.
I have no idea what does this even mean? But unfortunately is that game?
What is that game? You know who knows, but unfortunately I was
unable to continue to sell fund development until a deal was finalized. So yeah,
so maybe they'll find funding. It's you know, when you have no
one working on it, it's a little bit harder to get funding. But
you know that that just seems like one of those things where probably having that
trailer out there closing that show was their last ditch effort to like, we'll
get a bunch of buzz around it. Someone will surely come in right and
and give us the money we need to get going. But if that didn't
happen, at least not on the timetable they needed it too, then then
yeah, there we are here they are. But but you know, he
does refer to it as on hiatus, so right time to kickstarter see it
coming back? Oh god, yeah, I think he ran. They ran
another Kickstarter for a second game that did not make it, So I don't
think. I mean, Human Element is technically the first game announced for this
generation of consoles. It's true, and hey, dark Sactor finally Yeah,
dark Sactor finally came out, So there's you know, there's some press.
Uh yeah, so I you know, I don't know that was one of
those things where it just seemed like such a pipe dream at the start of
it, and you know, I was like, I'm you know, I
don't I don't like Robert Bowling seems like a very nice guy. Just he
just he seemed like he was kind of you know, they he was the
community guy for Call of Duty, and then like they kind of gave him
this creative strategist title and he kind of understanding he had more responsibilities than just
the community end of things, uh there towards the end, but I you
know, it's just one of those things where it's like he doesn't necessarily like
you can't necessarily directly link him to the rise of Call of Duty in a
way that gets people to get hyped about this game. So it was always
this kind of weird thing. Yeah, you can't. There's no dropping of
like from the makers of Call of Duty or a Yeah, so it was
just sort of a weird. Yeah. I don't know. I'm sure he
did quite well off of the sales of Call of Duty and stuff. I
mean, you look at how long they've been going. If he's talking about
self funding, like you know, clearly it's expensive. They had their office
that got robbed all that other stuff, you know, was rated or whatever
it was. They chased him off. Yeah, scarity footage. Yeah pretty
cool. Wow I missed that. Yeah, it was awesome. Dude's broke
in the front door and Bowling just sprinted down and chased them off and the
security he tweeted out, Yeah, put it on Instagram or something. It's
pretty rapt It was the most human the human element was. Yeah. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, it's it's it's curious, you know.
But yeah, at the same time, I imagine that as an investor coming
in if you're like, now you're looking to invest in a game that has
basically gone dormant and doesn't have a staff actively working on it, Like what
are you what are you investing in? You know, like the startup,
and like can you get those people back? Like who knows? That just
seems like a dicier proposition. So I you know, we'll see. Yeah,
you know, if they were targeting this November, then it has to
be pretty far along though, so sure hopefully you know, for their say,
hopefully what they've got to show is pretty complete and impelling too potential money
types. Yeah, all right, well that is all the news that is
fit to read on a podcast. Okay, all of it. It's time
turner. Attention to the emails. Excuse me, the emails emails BombCast at
giant bomb dot com. Send your emails there and I will ignore them all
right, such as this one from Gavin in NYC. Instant video Game turn
off is the title of this email. Hey guys, a big fan of
the Sight. I was having a conversation with a co worker when he mentioned
that all of the Mass Effect games were terrible, with Mass Effect being one
of my favorite series. I thought to myself, well, this person has
no idea what they're talking about and did not take anything else they said about
games seriously. I was curious if you guys also have a game that causes
a similar reaction to that mass Efect conversation out on me. Assassin's Creed sucks,
like like people that say that you don't trust them. Oh no,
I'm the guy that says that. Oh oh you're saying, okay, if
I mean you hold anything so dear that or like our or not even that.
But just like, do you are there any opinions that you find Like
if someone were too an express an opinion, they didn't like Super MARIOF little
weird. I mean, it's all, it's just opinions. That's why I've
never understood the when people get pissed off at review scores and stuff. It's
like, well, if you like it and I don't, just who gives
a shit. I'm glad you like it. Like I think when people express
like a real honest love of EDF, I am suspect if you want to
tell me that you think that those games are funny because they're kind of bad.
Sure, like we can have a conversation, but if you're a legitimate
sound like, no, these games are awesome. I know. I worked
with a guy named Joe Duba who up and down said EDF was one of
his favorite games. Weird. There are like a lot of you can say
it's your favorite, But is he saying it's good? He like there are
two different things. Okay, he can love them again, but is he
saying that like mechanically like what they made? Are they saying it looks good
plays? Well, I'm thinking back to his reviews, like the mechanics of
those games are stiff and suck ass. I want to say his reviews he
did give him kind of around like seven or eight range, but he and
ironically loves playing. This is that how the score the school or works over
there? This is like seven or eight points are based on like I don't
know the answer. Cool, and then the rest of it is like if
it shoots wet like oh man, it fit into the console and booted seven
out of ten. Let's go from there. Another matrix Yeah yeah, fuck
man edf is definitely one of them or good answer, good answer where I'm
just like, I don't know, yeah, totally. I don't think there's
a single thing that somebody could say that they loved or hated and they would
make me just like completely yeah, it's it's there's nothing that's complete. It's
definitely just like Zelda series. Maybe it's like forever no series is for everyone
totally. You know, like if you were gonna get on a soapbox and
be like, Zelda is just shitty. It's never controlled. Well, it's
just there's no creativity, I'd be like, well, you're wrong, but
whatever, it doesn't affect my enjoyment of it. I mean, I think
you're well. I mean the question is more about like what somebody could say
that would lead you to write off their opinions about other things or just you
know, it's like if you think that, you probably one of the things
where it's like, you know, I think, you know, it depends
on how he framed that. If the guy and if the guy who doesn't
like mass Effect is saying I don't like mass Effect, like that's perfectly fine.
Like I don't like dragon Age. A lot of people do. Uh,
Like some outlets gave dragon Age Inquisition their game of the year, yep,
and I just look at and go, yuys, you're fucking crazy.
Yeah, but all right, okay, sure or whatever. It's the framing
thing. Like if somebody says like, I'm not into Mario games, it's
like, okay, it's not. But if somebody says, like the platforming
sucks and Mario, I'd be like, well, that's that's a dumb thing.
This It's like that's just yeah. At that point, you're just like,
well, you don't know, we're platform yea. At some point,
I I get that way with there's a subset of people out there who not
only don't like DODA, but want to make sure you know that they think
it's the worst thing ever made. And those people invariably have never played it
or don't know jack shit about it. Right, I'm sitting right here.
At a certain point, I'm just like, who the fuck do you think
you're trying to impress? Like, yeah, like, is this is just?
Is this just the turning up your nose. That's the thing that's popular
to make yourself cool. I like, keep in mind that that's you know,
that's what largely drove you know, a lot of the people not liking
stuff like Gone Home. It's the feeling that drove me not liking MIST when
Mist was new. Is it was gaming going in this direction and you're like,
that's not It's not for me. Nope, fuck that. If games
go further in the direction of Miss, we've lost like all troll you know,
Doda because you know, I don't personally like it, But yeah,
I have not. I realized that there is a level of depth there.
Like when I say that, oh, there's no strategy, I'm not even
I'm not even talking about you so much. Yeah, there are a lot
of people out there totally. I think that there there's fun to be had
at Doda's expense. For sure, there is, because seriously, people take
it. But like I'm sure there is a serious right, Sure, I
don't doubt that at all. Roshan only spawns once every fucking forty eight seconds
or whatever. So it's it's between eight and eleven minutes. It's same thing
as of eight minutes, he can spawn. If he hasn't spawned by eleven
minutes, he will spawn at eleven. Okay, there're times the cheese mm
sure, so you know, yeah, so it's the people that will write
off mobile games because yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yes, Well I
think that that's something that like changed, you know, when when mobile games
were first coming out and people were talking them up very dramatically, a lot
of them that were very bad, and that you had that additional push of
like dudes in suits saying no, this is the future, you're a video
games are dead. It's like, well, you're fucking wrong. And I'll
tell you, for a dozen different reasons that don't show up on a fucking
spreadsheet why you're wrong. I mean to me, clearly, the important thing
to remember is that nobody's video games are dead, right, everybody's video games
are still alive and well, but yeah, and if this ship is big
enough and diverse enough, I mean, look at how many fucking visual novels
there are on Steam these days, Like like everybody's interests are being catered to.
Well, not everybody's obviously, there's room for improvement, but sure.
But like any any like any any shitty negativity that comes from a place of
they're taking my video games away is insane because like totally, and there are
more games than ever. There's like more ship for you than there ever was
before. Shut up. Yeah, And but it's it's it's one of those
things that like, you know, like it's Mist was a very dark time
for me, and I look back on it now and go like, ah,
that was pretty fucking stupid. But at the time, like you know,
it was it was one of those things where you're like, man,
well, like Doom is out also stuff that's all these great first person shooters
and stuff. And then Mist was so popular so fast, and it drew
all these people to games that had, you know, no idea what you
know, what the other games were, and they just wanted you know,
it's like your parents were playing me and there. Early in mid nineties,
the world as it pertained video games was much smaller than it is now.
Totally, it was so when most media rolled in and and tried to say
this is how it's gonna be, Like, there was that notion of just
like wait, wait wait, it's like, oh wait, every video game
is just gonna have like shitty two bit actors in it now. Yeah,
And you know, I was coming from the place of like I already saw
this come and go once with dragons Layer and a lot of other stuff,
like you know, like putting video into your game doesn't make it great.
Rebel Assault was a great selling game that also apparently went on to become one
of the most returned games of its era. Sure. I think also people
that say things like, well, that's what you get from playing and on
a PlayStation like console war people that extends to everything. If you were just
like, oh my phone crash, they're like, well, my Andrew just
running fine, right, yeah shp Console Warriors like platform snobbery, fucking PC
Master Race, frame rate snobs like, get over it. Yeah, there's
there's room for pretty much everything at this point, I guess. Yeah,
but yeah, but except for DF stamp it out. Stamp out, Yeah,
stamp out those giants. Those bugs got a good yeah, and Majora's
mask those pretty much. And when people say they really genuinely like Majora's mask,
at some point, I'm like, I don't know. You hired me
to speak my video. I don't know. It's really good game. Pack
South Street Pass. We lost one of our Major's mask apologists. Now maybe
there'll be an accident to rid us the other one. Oh, I'm not
really going to packs out them sending the end of the sun good time and
San Antonio D. You're going you just may not come back. We're doing
a video feature out in the t Oh that sounds fun. Meet us out
there. Okay, cool, We're all the clothes, bring props or anything.
I just just you'll just drive out to this location. There'll be a
car with an open trunk, just getting the trunk, close yourself in it.
Oh, I like surprises. Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be
fun. All right, all right, Rory just waved we're going to wrestling.
Oh yeah, I like wrestling. Yeah, perfect, have fun with
that book or tease runner show. I forgot to copy the email or I
forgot to copy the name on this email. Pack South three Pass, Hey
Brad, can you please remind the guys to bring their three DS? Is
with them to pack South. I want to street pass with them so hard.
I'll bring mine play some ma door on the plane. Also, why
aren't you coming down? Because three packs is a year too many packses.
We'll see how packs goes. You know, I'm happy to hang back and
let you guys run recon on. Yeah, with this being kind of the
first one, we're you know, we're sending a smaller crew and kind of
checking it out. Yeah, it seemed like tickets hadn't necessarily sold out.
I don't know if they've sold out since, but you know, that's like
I remember last time I looked last week. Sometime you can still get passes
for Friday, which is when our panel is. So if you're in San
Antonio and have not bought a ticket, you might want to look into it.
We'll be doing an hour on Friday night, uh, with me,
Drew, Dan, and Alex. Yeah, Drew'll be filming, so don't
fucking bother Drew with me, you and Alex. I wonder if wrestling is
gonna come up. Probably not. I can't imagine. See if you can
make it, see if you can make it through the panel that bringing up
wrestling camera. Yeah, Hey, let me throw this out real quick.
We're gonna be in San Antonio during the Royal Rumble and I am actively trying
to find a place to watch it, like a public venue, some some
place, a bigger place, and I'm bringing my Bengal Hopper, so I
want to do the my annual Royal Rumble raffle. I'm trying to decide what's
like sadder or more desperate this Bengo Hopper thing. Or I have a friend
who keeps a big spreadsheet of who eliminated who, and he fills it out
over the course of the Royal Rumble, and that was always kind of a
bummer. Uh, it makes it so much, It makes it so much
more fun for people that don't even follow you wrestling. So like, you
know, I've taken girlfriends and stuff to the Royal Rumble and it's like they
don't know, but like you're fucking duping them because realistically, the now,
they're the number of people because when you get your numbers, yeah, and
you see who you know who those entrants are when they run, and you'll
know immediately if you have a can have a shot, would say it's these
people you're like roping into this that are like maybe this person will win.
It's like, no, all six year points. It's random, Like I
mean, it is, it is. But it's funny too because, like
I remember, I had a girlfriend at the time and she had a number
and Hacksaw Jim Duggan was one of the like surprise entrances, and everyone in
the rooms like yeah, hack Saw and she's like, oh good, did
I get a good guy. It's like, oh god, no, no,
it's gonna be immediately eliminated. You want you want one or thirty or
twenty seven? Technically sure, okay, yeah, no, it's it's a
super fun way to watch the rumbles. Everyone tips in ten bucks or whatever,
like we usually have like ten or fifteen people and get numbers out of
the Bengal Hopper based on that. Yeah, and then uh yeah, you
let people draw their own numbers. I sit there with the Bengo Hopper.
I did last year's TI. I bought it. I went to Walmart and
I bought the Bengal Hopper for seven dollars and uh yeah, I do it.
And we have a chart and everything and who's got who? All right,
I'm in all right, Well, we're bringing this on an airplane.
I am bringing a Bingo Hopper on an airplane, which I do wonder when
it goes through the X ray, this metal thing with a bunch of like
little balls in it. I don't know. Didn't you say it was seven
dollars? Yeah? Why don't you just buy one when you get there?
I don't know. Find on Bingo hoppers store Walmart. I drove around a
shipload of stores in Minnesota to find that thing. Can't imagine finding a Walmart
and in Texas. And there in Texas is all that difficult? I bet
there's a lot of Walmarts in Texas. Yeah, but no, I got
I got one. I bought it for this reason. Yeah, So we're
going out there. We're doing one panel. I'm on two panels on Friday,
Friday afternoon, and then we're doing our panel Friday night, and then
I'm doing another panel on Sunday that is designed to be just a question and
answer session if people want to come ask me questions about whatever. That will
not be filmed. It will not be filmed. We'll see who ends up
crashing that. There's some other people in town for the show. Maybe we'll
do some stuff, but yeah, we'll see how goes. I don't know.
We're gonna get out there and have some fun, so hopefully if people
are gonna be there. Unknown if it will be live streamed either panel,
Yeah, we're the We're starting to think it won't be live streamed. We
don't have any control over that directly, but well we'll see the Shinta bomb
packs panel. You will get wet, Yes, you might get soaked.
Yes, Mike from Michigan. Dan hiding under bed calling cops. I was
recently watching the CDF Ghost Chip Unfinished with Dan and Drew or. Dan mentions
that once he called the cops and hit under a bed, but he didn't
go into details because it was quote a story for another time. It's now
another time. If the story happens to be too personal, please ignore me.
I've never shied away from personal questions. I'll give the short version of
this. It was in college. I had a friend. I think everyone's
got some of these friends that when they have a bit too much to drink,
they get kind of fighty or possibly stabby. And I had this friend
that at the time was extremely, extremely drunk and for some reason decided he
wanted to stab me. Uh so, anger or just yeah, you know
what I've talked about, you know, I would poke you like I've been
in weddings with him since this, Like we've talked about it, and like
I think he was so out of his mind to this point that he didn't
even know what the reasoning was. So I was watching Legends of the Hidden
Temple at three o'clock in the morning after the bars as you do, as
you do, because yeah, I was at the bar, I was really
drunk. We talked about old Nickelodeon shows, and then I realized I had
that Nickelodeon Gas channel Games and Sports for kids, that air's nick Arcade and
Legends of Hidden Temple and Doubledare which are all the best shows that have ever
happened. And so I was watching it at like three o'clock in the morning.
Show Finders Keepers, uh, you know what, that was too early
for Gas, but that was one of the first Nickelodeon game shows. I
really got it. I figured if they were going to have their own channel,
they would they would pull out the fucking reruns for that. You know,
I don't think they're a lot on the guts best global guts everything.
Fighters do you have it don't want the agric Craig. But anyway, I
was watching this stuff and long story shore, there's lots of details here.
He tried to saw through my door with well, first of all, he
I was sitting there and he came in the door with some beers and fell
face first, like Chris Farley style, into my table, and I was
really afraid he's gonna knock my TV off. And so I was like,
okay, let's I won't say his name, but like, hey, let's
gonna take you upstairs. He loved right above me. It's like, okay,
pass that on the couch. Here, just here, here's a puke
bucket or whatever. Just chill out. Went downstairs, locked the door because
I didn't want him to come back in, and all of a sudden I
hear him banging on the door let me fuck in, and I was like,
oh man, he's real messed up. I'm not gonna let him in.
And then I hear him going upstairs to his roommates, give me a
fucking knife, like what's going on here? And him through the ceiling or
whatever. No, he starts trying to saw through the front door. I
hear like, like, fucking shining style, I guess, and I was
like, this is weird. I guess, you know, I'll let him
try to do this because he's not gonna be able to. And then all
of a sudden, I hear him trying to get in through the window.
And that's when I realized, oh shit, this is getting serious. He's
really out of his mind. A drunk person can get through a window usually.
Yes, got a bona fide b and E on your Yeah, yeah,
your hands. So I locked myself in the bathroom and called the cops
and they came and they arrested him. And when I left the bathroom,
there were muddy footprints all around my bathroom. He was walking around like he
was right outside the door. And that was scary as shit that the cops
showed me the knife that he had and everything. And it's a large individual.
He could easily kick my ass. Okay, that's not you know,
a tall order. He could have overpowered you, is what I'm saying.
Oh, if he wanted to stab you, he could have it without a
shadow of a doubt. Okay, yes, yes, he was more of
a fighting type. And I've never been a fight in my life, and
uh so, yeah, he went to jail. They took him to jail,
and I spent the next morning upstairs talking to his roommate, which is
a good friend of mine, and just like, man, what the hell
happened him last night? That was insane. We were kind of talking about
it. Now, you know, he's struggled with valcoll and stuff. All
of a sudden, I hear banging downstairs at my apartment, just like,
gay, open the fucking door. And I was like, Oh, he's
out of jail. Okay, great, And then I hear him start to
come upstairs and I'm in his apartment talking to his roommate. I was like,
oh shit, And so I hid underneath my friend's bed and called the
cops, and they sent him back to jail. Wow on what grounds?
I don't I don't remember what I mean. There's no official child and press
charges you. We're friends now and everything, and we him my dad.
And the second time, I don't know, he was so drunk. I
think he must he was in a bad spot. And like when I walked
outside when they were taking him away the second time, his mom was there
crying because she'd picked him up in prison, Like what have you done to
my boy. Why are you sending my boy to prison? And I was
like, your son was trying to stab you for no fucking reason at all.
Uh so, yeah, but know we're good buds. Now, Okay,
Ever, did you ever get an answer? And he still drinks?
You said you you drink with him when he does. He is. He
has settled down considerably. He was. He had a tumultuous college time,
you know, with girlfriends and stuff like that, and he was always getting
into fights and things like that. But we did a straight answer out of
him as to why he wanted to stab you. No, I mean there
was never any weirdness there. We don't talk about. Yeah. Yeah,
but he's one of those guys that settled down. He found the right ladies.
He's got like nineteen kids now and you know, yeah, see he
seems happy. Successful. So named Jim Bob it is not now. He's
a good dude, all right, all right now the world knows. Uh.
Here's another email is Drew Scandlon related to the drummer from the Foo Fighters,
Taylor Hawkins. The answer is yes, signed to Charles Beers Androy Baker.
Based on the comments I've seen, he's just Sarah question he seems to
asking an answer, an answer he seems he seems assured that the answer is
yes. I suppose there are not many blonde people out there because a lot
of people who are born blonde turn into brown haired. Yeah I had.
I had blonde hair for the first two three years. Yeah, turned brown.
Now whenever anyone anyone blonde, they say, hey, you're like that
guy. Yeah, I saw people with blonde hair tend to have my skin
color palette. Sure, yeah light. I apologize to Charles for reading his
full name out, but whenever you end your email signed full name, it's
so formal, I have no choice. But most of the comparisons I do
not mind. M. Yeah, yeah, that guy's uh, you can
see that guy. I don't know what that looks like, but he looks
side. I was gonna say, he's in that Sound City documentary and he
you know, I could see the resemblance. I guess uh. I thought
he was gonna pull an obscure Scanlon into the mix. M. I don't
meet many of those. Danny even said, like, it's an Irish name,
and Danny, I don't think he even knows any personally. I can
picture Danny pronouncing the word scanlon, and I guarantee it sounds exactly. Yeah,
it checks out there, You go, all right. Mike P from
Byron, Illinois sends in an email about the highs and lows of the lobster
game. Excuse me, hello, bomb mates, listening to your podcast.
Last week, Dan mentions a lobster crane game. I wanted to write it
in and let you guys know they exist, and then I rented one for
about a month. You're going to rent them. I put it in the
sports bar I managed, and it was just meant to be funny, and
it was only a week long lease. The first day that machine made the
bar a thousand dollars. The lobster operator got forty percent of the take and
came in every morning to make sure the lobsters weren't dead and cleaned it once
a week. If a patron caught a lobster, our cook's in the back
cooked it for them. The lobster guy gave us a really quick tutorial on
how to cook them, and that was it. The first week was great,
as the owner told me, I could keep the remainder of the cut
as a bonus since it generated a lot of buzz. Unfortunately, like all
good things, that quickly escalated into something very bad. One Saturday night,
a gentleman one quote unquote a lobster and quickly dismembered it. Alive. Lobster
parts soon found their way onto table and other customers. Another patron took the
lobster dismemberment very hard and beat the lobster slayer pretty badly. The funny part
was after he had knocked him clean out and the bar cheered for his heroic
stand, the man unwrapped some butter pads and began to slather the person's hair
and face while yelling this is for the lobster. The cops came and took
both people to jail. This was on a weekday night, and no bouncers
were around to stop it. In case anyone wonders why none of this was
stopped, the lobster machine soon went from a beacon of curiosity to borderline animal
cruelty as the crowd that was rabid to play soon felt for the lobsters.
So we called the lobster man back and he came and got his machine and
moved it down the road to another bar. So yeah, so it sounds
lucrative. That's oh man, that's the lobster crane gate. I didn't know
you could rent them. I kind of wanted to put one in front of
my apartment now and just shakes the profit. There you go, it's a
big live love show. Would just have this lobster crane over there in the
corner. Bad idea. I could probably cook a lobster, take a run
at it when I've never I think it's pretty easy. It's throwing some hot
water, right. Yeah, it's also alive when you throw it in there.
Oh that seems sad. Yeah, yes it's yes, that is that
is true. Uh, emails, more emails. Let us see. You
can go catch lobsters if you have a license any really, Yeah, a
lobster and license. Yeah. Why did they put it in a live Why
don't they just do something like some humane like a little ether ragged put it
out? Yeah, put it in there? Does it taste? That's weird.
I don't think it makes any difference other than people don't care. Yeah,
it's a little bit. It's a little bit grim. It's a little
morbid. That's like that weird duck thing you were telling me about. Yeah,
FuG raw Yeah, that's fucked up. Yeah, it's fucked up.
And they made it legal again in California. I guess, mhm, it
seems necessarily it's disgusting. I tried it. That's I was not a fan.
Sorry, I'm taking stock of the emails here. Oh no, I
forgot to put the name on this one. Also, I apologize. Copying
and pasting out of Gmail is not an exact science. Now you know,
rock band Coffee makers, says person Okay Greeting's mom crew. I work for
a company that, among other things, has done extensive research into coffee makers
and what makes a good cup of coffee. We have tested everything from European
vacuum assisted coffee bongs to three thousand dollars units that you mount inside a wall.
I want to know what a coffee bong is now I have to look
it up. It's just like all the fucking Will Smith's ship. We chemists
on cold press, like creepy, creepy coffee. I know, all right,
he says. If Brad is still looking for a new bullshit coffee maker,
I recommend the Zoji Roushi ECBD fifteen. We use it every day and
make it scientifically proven good cup of coffee. It's also well under one hundred
dollars. Japanese has an elephant for a and comes in a box with an
awesome eighties stock picture. If a turkey dinner, all right, because nothing
makes me think coffee like a turkey down, I'm sold on it. That
being said, the company I worked for also played a minor role in the
release of the original rock band Instruments. Since you were talking about a rock
band re release last week, I was wondering, do you think any changes
should be made to the plastic instruments? Would new features be seen as a
gimmick? Do you think new instruments would be included at all? Oh?
So, that's actually a pit of news that we missed is that they ran
Hormonius survey. That's right. That makes it very clear that they are investigating
making a new rock band. Yes, because it's stuff like, you know,
hey, what are the most valuable features of rock band? In order?
Was it playing online with other people? Yeah? No? Was it
weekly DLC? Yeah? Was it healthy on disc collection? Sure? You
know. It's like if it was compatible with the old instruments, would you
be psyched? How would you want to buy a rock band? It's a
digital thing. It was a full band, kid is something with one instrument
and like, you know, like that sort of like do you still have
working rock band instruments? Was one of the question. Actually, we got
a couple other emails in that vein one person asking in particular about you know,
don't you include that email? Maybe I did, maybe I did not,
asking about you know what. I'm gonna read that email right now because
here it is Josh from k C. Let's just follow on with the recent
rock band DLC and rumors of a next gen game. Would Harmonic's benefit by
going exclusive specifically Sony after the bad will that was caused with the Connect Unbundling
and Fantasia game along with a relationship with Sony and Ampletude. Would it be
possible? More so, since Sony has roots in music and movie soundtracks,
couldn't that save time and money and licensing that music that I assume was problematic
originally. One thing I'll say about like the existence of Sony Music and Sony
Pictures and blah blah blah, is that I don't get the sense that those
divisions of that corporation worked together at all. Right, Yeah, I don't
think there's there's probably not much synergy in there, like if anything, almost
sounds like there might be more headache and if some things like that happen.
I had also seen somebody some people in the press were floating the opposite idea,
which was rock band going exclusive to Xbox. I don't know what that
was with respect to like, I don't know what Microsoft can offer that Sony
can't. Well, I feel like, you know, Microsoft was definitely or
the the Xbox three sixty was certainly like the platform. It seemed like the
platform for I was gonna say, like the that's the one consideration. Yeah,
you know, it got rock band network because of the creators stuff that
they had on the three sixty. Wad PS three. Never get that no
rock band network on PS three was like some tracks would get upgraded into proper
DLC and then sold on the rail. I thought rock band net worth was
on both and then on the Wii. It was apparently just like updating the
store a week to week was a nightmare because you had to re submit the
whole thing or whatever it was, right, Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like, you know, in terms of just like in roads with
labels like they already have those relationships, you know, from making rock Band,
from making Dance Central, like the getting to the labels, getting to
the bands. They already know how to do that. They already know how
their business works, and like how much it costs them to master these songs
and and and track the chart them out and stuff. So it just becomes
a matter of, like, you know, for that amount of money,
what bands can they get? What bands can't they get? Sure, and
that sort of thing. I was gonna say, like the sales data on
which platform sold the most, LC probably would make the most sense if they
were looking at some deal like this, just in terms of roping people back
in. I mean stuff the rock band stuff sold sold incredibly well on the
Wii as well, just by virtue of it being a huge platform, a
huge, huge platform with a very casual audience like rock band was you know,
had had a wide appeal. But you know, most of those people
didn't have a we hooked up to the internet and don't even know that you
can download music, so, uh, you know that's an issue, right.
And then there's you know, there's a whole question of whether old dealc
you would even carry over. Yeah, I think that was one of the
questions on their survey was DEALC compatibility. How important is that to you?
Which it's very sure, incredibly of the utmost like I was saying, I
would say, like for people if you're launching from from starts from zero from
people, for people who spend hundreds of dollars on that ship, Yeah,
yeah, totally, yeah, for sure. So yeah, I don't know.
I think they should make another rock band. I just don't know how
the business end of any of that stuff works. Yeah, the question from
the first email or who, in my defense, asked not to have their
name included, so that's why included. But in terms of what they said,
they said, like would there even be new instruments like I mean,
if if you have to be for compatibility, well yeah, yeah, I
mean they would want to make native instruments for those platforms, but they could
probably also make it work. I mean, you know, you can use
PS three fight sticks on PS four the driver, so the P three that
you could almost definitely make it work. When the Xbox it might get sticky
because they're weird proprietary, you're the wireless instruments might make it to a little
tricky, but they could have an adapter, you know, they they've they've
done USB adapters before for instruments and stuff, so there's probably a solution there.
Uh. But yeah, I think if anything, like, you know,
making a new rock band is probably an exercise in making it as simply
as possible and making use of existing instruments where available. So like, as
much as I want to think that, like, oh, you know,
there's cool stuff they could do to all those instruments to make them different,
like put a sixth button on the guitar, Like I don't know that that
actually matters, right, No, Yeah, so you know, I bet
they won't support pro instruments in whatever they do next. That that's not because
they sold those separate upgrades for more money. You know, it's like a
weird like that stuff always just seemed like such an outlier and then and rock
Smith kind of owns that part of yes, uh, that part of this
now, if you want to, if you want to use a real guitar,
rock Smith is your game. Yeah. But yeah, I'm really fascinated
you and I really like rock band. I would love to see them make
another rock band. Do you guys think that the rock band name is more
valuable than the Guitar Hero name at this point. I bet it's not.
You don't think so. I don't know, because there's been like some suggestion
that like, oh what if Activision wanted to revive Guitar Hero and went to
the people who invented Guitar Hero created in the first place and have them do
it. Yeah, Like, I think there would be incredible value bringing and
bringing those things back together. Yeah. But for Harmonics, I mean,
they own the rock Band property, they do. Yeah, so of course
they want to make the thing that they own over in rock Band. I
like it. So what is those unholy union? Yeah, I mean,
you know that will make all of existence. I think the rock Band is
is the brand that probably speaks wider to people who are in the know about
the quality of these games. Sure, but I think the Guitar Hero probably
still to this day, has like some kind of wider mainstream recognition. That's
probably true. Yeah, it could be an interesting year with that stuff if
they start got new Tony Hawk coming. Yep, it's fucking ridiculous out there.
Can't wait to get another one of those plastic skateboards in here. Yeah,
it'd be great. Oh god, damn it. Oh yeah, all
right, consuming drugs and stupid ways. Uh this guy, this guy put
the disclaimer at the very top not to include his name, So in that
case, I can tell you he did not want his name included. All
right. I enjoyed your discussion the stupid things people have done to get high.
I too, knew some dummies who engaged in robo tripping. Here's a
story of a more notably stupid thing I witnessed. This is pretty good.
A friend of mine grew a bunch of mushrooms. Fun times were had,
and then everyone was sad that we had no more mushrooms. All we had
was the big bin of dirt in which the mushrooms grew, and a lot
of free time and the Internet. Naturally, this led to one of my
friends discovering that although the bulk of the hallucinogenic material turned into big, chewy
mushrooms, some of it was just infused into the dirt. Why don't we
just eat the dirt, asked one of my friends. For me to the
answer to that question was because I have some self respect. But that weekend,
several of my friends worked over a few hours to eat large handfuls of
theoretically hallucinogenic dirt. Some ate in small nibbles, some mixed it in with
other food. One guy covered his dirt with chocolate fudge. No matter what
method they chose, it was pretty disgusting. I would like to now say
that this was totally ineffective, and these more arms went to bed with bellies
full of dirt because that would be funnier. But actually it totally worked,
and they tripped balls. Wow. I think only one person puked. I
escaped the situation with my dignity intact. And then the next week they realized
they could get the same effect by brewing tea from the dirt, which I
totally drank. It tastes like a big glass of dirty bathwater. Growth.
Don't do drugs, Yeah, don't do that. Listen to this, Listen
to these. Yeah, drink beer comes on a bottle, you buy it
at the store, and ads to psychedelic mushrooms. They're addicted to mushrooms.
They'll do anything to get it. I'm only saying that because then someone left.
Actually, you can't really get addicted to mushrooms. I don't know if
it's totally safe. I don't think you can. I know I know,
I know, Okay, it's cool. How about a couple of video game
emails cleanse the palate? Sure make you feel a little better about being here.
I feel like it's a ropotop. I feel like you're gonna ask a
couple and then whatever's coming after that is gonna be way worse. This is
pretty okay, all right? Go on, Michael and concord California conquered,
conquered, conquered for day, Concord conquered, conquered. We're going to conquered.
Why you have been because where I'm from, there's a concord. Okay,
this is just conquered. Also, go to conquered. Also, what
don't go to conquer? Also the plane the concord doesn't that doesn't eat.
Yeah, so yeah, the concord is totally different. I project your explanation.
They retired the concord. True. I keep hearing you guys talk about
far Cry four. If I haven't played any of Far Cry three, should
I just skip straight four? Or is it worth an extended experience? Did
you get far Cry three cheaply and then play through both? I mean you
you probably get Farkry three for a decent discount and probably and have the more
I play four, or the more I feel like I had more fun with
three, really not the other way around. I mean, I love the
problems with three, which were mostly and then kind of disappointments and storytelling.
I think if you were looking for a discount version of that experience, you're
looking to wade in and kind of see if it's any good, and like
getting a cheap copy of three is totally acceptable. Yeah, I would play
three. I try to get it on PC or whatever. But if money
isn't the worry, then I think four is the superior. I don't know
what four or four is a little more refined and I guess so maybe maybe
a lot of it was just the newness of like, oh they finally yeah
farcry and married it to like that winning Open World Formula cool which Malaria several
years several years later is now super played out, But at the time I
was like, holy shit, like they took their first person shooter and made
it one of these games. That's cool. Yes, play three. I
had another email here. Okay, this is slightly retreading the Saints or discussion
from earlier, but it's got an interesting angle so I'm gonna read it.
Daniel from Ontario. Jeff was wondering where the Saints Row franchise could possibly go
next during the gat Out of Hell Quick Look. Could it be the Volition
will return to its roots and make another space combat game. Volitions Jim Boone
said on interviews that he'd love to work on another Free Space. It seems
like they deliberately set up the end of Saints or four so that if they
don't get to make free Space next, they can at least make something like
it and give it Saints Roe dressing. I personally love to see an open
world space shooter that's more character driven and filled with side activities like Saints Row.
The only recent games the future open space, such as X three and
Elite are pretty dry and lifeless. I think a Saints Row free space game
would be Yeah, I'm totally with you. That's why I wanted to put
that email out there. Uh yeah, like the Saints Row humor and like
characterizations and stuff in your dry ass like space commerce game. That sounds pretty
great, pretty funny. I don't know, like, are we're gonna get
to the point where Saint Row is more of a theme than a type of
game, right that any possible game type is eligible for the Saints Ro treatment.
Speaking of Space Homeworld is going to be the packs really really yeah?
Okay, is that not the hdification or the remaster whatever they're calling him.
All Saints Row is like the scary movie, date movie dance movie of the
video game. And this Tree Saints Row game they'll call it. Meet this
purpose Jesus Christ. All right, here we go, Marco from Brazil.
Uh, game phobias, I have yep, all right, you got it,
good job. I have a racking phobia, a deep paralyzing fear of
spiders, which makes it very difficult to play games like Skyrim or Dark Souls
or any game that features these nasty creatures. Do any of you experiencing anything
like this? I don't like bugs, Yeah, but I mean, but
it's not keep you from playing a game with bugs in them. No,
such as Earth Defence Force. Oh that's what. Those aren't even bugs,
man. Those ants freeze up and like fade through the ground. It's like
you're fighting styrofoam ants. Those ants can phasee through normal matter. They could
be anywhere. Think about it. Oh man, it's terrifying. I think
The one thing that kind of got close to that with me was I have
a real thing about any kind of tooth pain or eye pain, like,
so like whenever I had like cavities or lay sick and stuff like, it
just scared the shit out of me. So that stand in dead space too
was like fuck, like just thinking about it, it's pretty it's a pretty
unpleasant scene. Yeah, yeah, stuff like that. But outside of that,
like, you know, bees scare me, but like a be in
a game didn't scare me. I have a hard time falling from great heights
and video games really like I feel it in my stomach. I feel like
butterflies in my stomach when I jump off the top of like a giant church
and Assassin's Creed really like just like as if I were falling in real life.
Like it's just like it's this weird, like like feeling of vertigo where
I have to look away from the screen. It's not pleasant. I got
that when I was playing Half Life two with the Oculus. I've played like
five hours. Yeah I can. I can imagine that doing it with Oculus
would be like intolerable. Yeah, the part we're like the helicopters chasing the
near the beginning, and you're going around the outside of those windows like I
remember, like genuinely feeling afraid of falling. Oculu's pretty cool. So I
hear all right, Your final email comes from Ben. He calls it Dan
of the Rings. Okay, dear Dan. If Lord of the Rings is
as dumb or I'm sorry, at least sorry every if Lord of the Rings
is a dumb thing for dorks, how do you reconcile led Zeppelin having eight
billion songs about Lord of the Rings? Are you saying we play it is
a dork? Have you decided I did that you're cooler than led Zeppelin and
are now going to wear tight jeans. I am not cooler than led Zeppelin.
Did we take this email before we take I think this on the loss.
I think this is when we lost the emails. Yeah, yeah,
well maybe this this was within the last week since recent Yeah, because they
do or someone else asked. I do remember saying all right, we can
we can resurrect a little piece of that lost podcast. Then yeah, I'll
talk about bitch I'm Madonna later. Oh yeah, I'm not coolering led Zeppelin.
Very few people are the wrong stone Maybe yes, eight billion songs.
Lord of the rings Okay, you got Missy Mountain Hop, you got ramble
On Ramblone, where I hate because I love the song Ramblon so much.
But then that goes just explicitly Lord of the rings On in its like mort
Wory got on the evil One, crept up and took away with her in
the darkest depths of Mortory. Yes, uh fucking led Zeppelin. What a
bunch of door Yeah, fucking led Zeppelin. There's some kind of spacey dudes,
like like Jimmy Page is all into the occult, which we I feel
like we talk about that every What do you want out of your rock band?
Your seventies rock band? You want into rolling? Just a bunch of
dudes that listen to a lot of blues growing up and then I got drunk
and made a cool fucking band. You want your want by drunk, you
mean shot a lot of heroin? That that too? Yeah? Uh no?
Is that one? Uh yeah? You don't like whatever you like?
You know you want you want your spacey, far out types in a rock
band sometimes yeah, I don't know, Like I don't like people black Sabbath,
You know, Sabbath isn't because they're a little too like, uh,
they're the themes, you know, I like, be careful man, there's
I'm not. I'm not a big Sabbath militant Sabbath fans out there, No,
I just I just like bands that's saying about just real world normal stuff
like drinking and all of ladies and stuff. Yeah, that's that's why I
don't like Black Sabbath's all about like Satan and stuff and magic and crap.
Like, uh, you know, I like just a normal guy stuff.
I love the idea of adventure metal, but I don't actually enjoy it.
I like it when it's like Dio and you're just going fucking weird with it,
and like your videos have dumb animatronics and both ways. I like the
I like the ultra cheese factor of DO, but I also like the subtler
stuff that Zeppelin. Zeppelin doesn't go too heavy handed on it, and Zeppelin
had at the heart is just a bunch of dudes that love blues. You
know. What I like is a good guitar riff, Jimmy Page, give
me, give me, give me a good lick, and everything else follows
from there. So I'm not lys and a lot of you know, classic
rock songs because they are so mumbled and yeah, often often easy to uh
ignore. Well, there you have it. Robert Plant not a dork,
no weird spacey dude, but I mean he's he's Robbert Plant. Come on,
Robert Plant, not a dorc Bombcastle giant bomb dot com. That was
all the emails that I put in here. Uh, can you play Connect
if you are guar? I did some investigative journalism on that. If you
want to google that exact question, you will find the answer in video form.
I had guar come the game informer and when Connect first came out,
right, But I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out what would prevent you
from like all the weird ships sticking out of their uber, all the rubber
and everything. When it first came out, there's all that debate about like,
oh, you know, depending on like what is it, like the
time of day or skin color and stuff like Conneck would have trouble things.
Yeah, sitting down standing up about a group of guys with a bunch of
extra appendages sticking out. Yeah, Well, basically I just saw that they
were coming to town. I was like, I need to think of some
stupid reason they have them coming here, just want a reason to beat Guar.
Yeah, let's be honest. It was worth it. So yeah,
google that there were some cool dudes, which one is no longer with us.
Dave Brocky was odorous Rounggus. He was the main dude that came and
they were. They drank our beer game Informer, as you would expect Guar
to do. Yeah, and on top of our vending machine, they wrote
Guar for Guar was here in the dust, which is probably still there.
Great in Minneapolis. So next one, nice guys, it's good to hear.
All right. Well that is going to do it for this week's edition
of the podcast. You guys are leaving for San Antonio Thursday morning. Thursday
morning, Thursday morning, you guys are out, Yes, yes, after
that, I'll be back yeah Tuesday, okay. I will either be back
Wednesday or Tuesday. Wait what time Tuesday? I think I'll have to check.
I think I fly back Monday. Okay, so I'll be in the
office Tuesday, I think. So we have to do another podcast next week.
I'll be fine for that. Speaking of podcasts, I'd like to do
a quick plug for I mean Danny are doing this thing called you see both
of our names or Dan or Danny. Wait you lost me? Well okay,
so you know when you when you asked them in a question, you
get an answer. We're doing a podcast called Dancers d Answers. Yes,
guys like interpretive dance. No nope, not not not that lamb stuff tap
or you're learning to it's like river dance. Yeah, okay, now real
life question Michael Flatley on that's cool. Yeah. Wow. It's gonna be
two guys with vastly different life experiences and probably approaches to things different. Different
you know, body types and styles of movements. Yeah, yeah, you
know, yeah yeah, like I know, I know Danny has classical training
and you're more kind of free form. Yeah yeah, yeah, you're kind
of more of an urban yeah yeah yeah. Incorporates all these kind of like
almost like Park who asks into real I don't like to brag with it,
you know. Yeah, mixed medium, mixed medium ours. But it is
a premium podcast. We will be answering questions of really any kind. We've
kind of build it as a life advice podcast, but you can just ask
whatever fucking questions you want. Dan Danny man's the email account. He'll he'll
ask him, I'll answer him. He'll answer him too. Might my dad
call in for some dad responses? So yeah, we're gonna have some fun
with that. That'll be in the next couple of weeks. So some dad
and dad answers. We'll have to figure out something there. Do you know
what the email address is for? The email address is ask Dancers again.
It's answers with the d ask Dancers at Gmail though to answers the questions and
dancwers with Danny Danny. Yeah, oh okay, yes, when's that going
up? Yeah, at some point the next couple of weeks. Obviously the
schedule is kind of weird right now with pack stuff, so we might record
it before. But uh, yeah, we plan on doing this regularly if
people like it, so send your questions in and we will answer them.
Excellent. So yeah, packs, you guys are gone. Yep, Jason
is on vacation, Alex is coming with Alex in San Antonio with you.
That leaves Vinnie and I as the sole occupants of our respective office. Yeah,
so, uh, live streamed phone call between We're going to figure out
stuff for Thursday and Friday. It'll be fun. I think. I certainly
do not intend to come into this office by myself, so I will be
streaming a bunch of stuff from my house. I haven't talked to Vinny a
whole lot yet about what will happen, but so, yeah, there will
be no regular, regular format upf this week, obviously. Yeah, but
you're planning on doing some kind of things. We will. We will come
up with some plan. Video will be broadcast on the internet at the appointed
times, all right, and other times probably, uh, And then you
guys are back next week more or less. Yeah, once we're back.
Basically, I won't say any specifics, but we have several premium things tentatively
scheduled soon after coming back. All right. We'll stay tuned then for more
content because that's the end of this content. Yes, goodbye. I meet
my roommates. Rachel is an X ray technician by day and a volunteer at
the dog shelter by night. Nicole moved in last December. She's the quietest
because she spends her evenings retouching photos. Jeremy just got a job at the
local library, and on the weekends he likes to hang out at the jazz
Club downtown. And finally, this is Adam who grew up in Phoenix.
He works for a landscape company and specializes in pruning large trees. They're a
great group. They're a great group. My favorite cut is the bonus cut
that's only in the iTunes version