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Mmm, Hello, it is Tuesday, January at twenty twenty fifteen. It's

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a momentous day. One twenty bro, it's a momentous day in the history

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one twenty Yeah, spark up an
episode of the Giant Bomb cast. Right,

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and there we are if three time
zones away. You know what I'm

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saying, month time, month zones, three month zones from here. It's

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it's a little hazy weather one month. I got a weather warning. What

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if metric? Yeah, exactly like
swatch month time is very cool. Carry

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your umbrella. It's gonna get yep. It's a you know, like a

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turned up Oh okay, before turned
up? Was turned up? Is it

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come from like hype? Yeah?
You could get HIPI Okay, it's time

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to get Hiphi. Also you could
get cans of Hi Fi. They made

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an energy drink called HIPI. You
made that. I don't know that anyone,

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no one. I don't know if
anyone in the notes. No body

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takes responsibility. Yeah, a robot
generated Hypie energy drink. It appeared.

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Yeah, market research. The grape
one was all right, actually, like

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the main flavor was grape apple.
The name of the drink, the grape

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one, the grape one. No, it should be Prince made that.

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Instead it was Alexander the grape and
then they got sued. Prince should have

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made an energy drink. Is Little
John's drink still available? Crunk juice?

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Yeah? No, no, I
don't well, I don't. I shouldn't

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say for sure, but I don't
think it is. I think I kicked

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on microphone corps. Yeah, we're
in the studio. Yeah, like we're

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in the studio. Studio. Yeah, so we might sound different. Huddle

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around this little table, hiny little
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four people, that's right, little
big enough to accommodate Drew scandal and stand

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here standing everything at the end of
the tables. Its great with I'm just

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gonna take a picture right now.
This is live photography happening. Wow,

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as we speak. You can just
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old days, is it. You
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snap these shots? Do I want
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Wait nine months for it to develop. Whatever the hell happened with old

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timey photos. There's a picture that
might go on the internet. Take a

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picture of the two of us standing
in front of the clock towers. It's

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being christened and then there you go, I'm guilty of it. Now,

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Happy New Year, and it's in
twenty one. Congratulations. Like you know,

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now, I have talked about Back
to the Future in the year of

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Back to the Future, just like
every other assure though fair enough, okay,

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yeah, I'm ahead of the curves
behind like you would. You would

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be super trendy to like Back to
the Future three, the one that people

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don't like. It was okay,
whatever, but ter fine, like you

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know, but of the three top
spun their guitars and they were in old

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timy times. True, there's nothing
wrong with Back to the Future three with

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some people hate too. Some people
see it as like the Temple of Doom

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of that, and I don't agree
at it all. Two's a little all

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over the place. I like to
see the future, so I like the

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future, Biff. Yeah, it's
a great character of future. Maybe all

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run like it's they're they're all the
on the same level, like one movie

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to me, because like I as
a kid, I just saw them all

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at the same time. Oh wow, you know as a kid, you

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don't you can't tell things are good
bad. See For me, it was

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like I remember there being a significant
well I mean compared to two and three,

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like you know, the distance,
like when one was over, you

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weren't necessarily sure that they were actually
going to make another one. Yeah,

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it's not like they wrote well,
I mean maybe they hope for a sequel,

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but it's not like they wrote one
assuming there would be a sequel.

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No, that's why that was just
a standbond kind of cool. They we've

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really well and that was the thing
as a kid looking back, like you

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know, you didn't know what about
any of the like, oh, they

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shot two and three at the same
time, and I actually very much new.

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So it's like you were old enough
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like a matrix sequels thing. Yeah, we didn't didn't tune three come out

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very close together. Yeah, that
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like three, like nineteen ninety ish, I don't know, is that right.

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There's early nineties. Oh yeah,
spaghetti westerns for sure, like Clintstwood

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stuff. Yeah, yeah, it
could bend the seen a lot of this.

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They're good. Yeah, yeah,
yeah for a few dollars more is

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I actually like more than good?
He goes fistful of dollars, a few

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dollars more good Bed and the Ugly
Yep, that's the Man with No Name

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trilogy I've got always Are those all
like that? Is that a chronology?

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Are those the same characters? I
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It's basically supposed to kind of be
the same guy. There's no overt

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connection. You just kind of like
it's like the Zelda series. There's nothing.

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There's nothing that that's the explicitly shows
that they aren't the same guy,

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right, except of the one where
there was young Clint Eastwood and then at

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adult Clint Eastwood. An adult Clint
Eastwood could push the blocks and then young

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what could write? Of course?
Of course you know they've got the mirror

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shield. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had those those metal boots on.

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Yep, it made it really hard
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Levan Cleeve might play different characters,
and a couple of them, so,

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I mean, they don't feel a
sequels. You can watch me in

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whatever order you want. They all
make sense. Okay, it's much cool

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guys shooting each other. I had
never seen a Tombstone. That's finally watched

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it a few months ago. It's
pretty good. Thinks a little over hyped.

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It's good. It's it's pretty good. Kurt Russell in it. I

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mean, it's great. Have you
seen Unforgiven? I don't think I've seen

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Young Guns? How about Young Guns
too? Unforgiven is serious? Can I

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spoil I'm Forgiven? No, you
cannot. That movie is I mean,

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the plot of that movie can be
explained in like two sentences. And it's

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the best. Just let him watch
it. Oh, it's so good.

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That is an Academy Award nominated in
film. I kept seeing The Untouchables thinking

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it was Unforgiven. Those are totally
different, I know, Yeah, but

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there are both you words about the
same length yep from the same time.

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Confused. Isn't Gene Hackman in that? And Unforgiven? Yeah? Don't.

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Yeah, he's something. He has
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gold painted. What I don't remember
that? I don't know. That's the

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only Gene Hackman stuff I know.
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cast. I watched a couple of
bad movies against Yeah, I did too,

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Yeah, what do you watch?
I watched Air Force one on you

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said bad movies. The only thing
bad about that is the CG plane crashing

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at the end. Which one is
air Force one? Harrison Ford is the

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president Okay, yeah, the old
man is the bad guy. Yeah,

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Kurt Russell in executive decision. Okay, that great, get off his plane.

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Yes, I very much enjoy Air
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Congo is BA, which is a
bad move. Congo is a bad

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movie. Great book. It was
a good Taco Bell tie in the volcano

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menu? What was the volcano burrito? What spicier food? Okay, I

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can see where that would I don't
know if that was actually tied in with

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Congo or not. I think it
was. But is there even a volcano

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in Congo? Oh? Yes,
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of the movie. Well, great, good to know Amy and whatnot?

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Hello, Hi fucking Congo? Yep, God damn Bruce Campbell in that Yep?

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Okay, but what doesn't Bruce Cambell
Campbell is great? Do you guys

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do you guys have like that that
weird love? Like do you guys like

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really like Bruce Campbell? Like man, Bruce Campbell, He's the best.

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I mean, like I don't want
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feel like real. Well, he's
like a certain like type of person that

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is just like this, like undying
Bruce Campbell fan. I never understood it.

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movies in the heat of the moment, so coming to him later and I

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was like, okay, yeah,
I understand. Like I didn't. I

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didn't even know what Evil Dead was, and I just went to see Army

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of Darkness in the theater because I
looked dumb, right, and it was

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fucking amazing. Yeah, and then
I went back and watched Evil Dead too,

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and yeah, you know, easy
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and that's how you're introduced to that. So he choose some good scenes

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in burn Notice. Yeah, No, I think he's great and burn Notice,

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Yeah, I wish that I watched
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because he's so self aware, like
he knows exactly who and what he is.

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But I think the people like movies. We got him out. We've

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got to go see Bubba Hotel because
man, BC is in it, you

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know, like, Nope, the
movies kind of whatever. That movie tried

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way too hard. That was the
moment with the JFK thing, right,

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it's been there fighting. Yeah,
I didn't like that one. What bad

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movies did you watch? Dan?
I watched Grown Ups too. Oh God,

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let's show what are you starting a
podcast? We were talking about expanding

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our podcast line up. This is
not the way I give me your thirty

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second summary. We're not getting into
the business of competing podcasts here. Okay.

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The first thing that happens is Adam
Sandler and Samahayak wake up in bed

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and a deer is in their bedroom
and it peas all over them. It

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gets scared and goes up on hind
legs and just peas all over both of

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them. And then the deer runs
in the bathroom and Adam Sandler's sun is

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showering and the deer peas all over
him. Other guns like promising start,

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other gags involved hot young, hot
young comic Colin Quinn. Now, can

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we replace the deer with Already?
Would that make it a better movie?

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Yeah? Probably? Okay, that's
dirty works. Yeah basically, which is

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a great movie, which, yeah, no problem. Can we get Already

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laying in this movie before he dies
tragically? Probably? Not? Also,

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the only movie I've seen that stars
both Steve Bashimi and Stone Cold Steve Boston.

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So there's that, Well then you
haven't seen. Yeah, it's a

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terrible movie. Ben Hanson my friend
from Gameingformers in town, and so we

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just got a little drunk and watched
that whole movie and we listened to some

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of that podcast afterwards. I think
it was you, Brad that told me

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about it the worst idea of all
time podcasts. And yeah, I don't

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know how they do it. They're
on episode like forty six or something.

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Now I think they're gonna end it
at fifty two. It was like it's

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a one year challenge. Yeah,
it is a miserable movie. There's not

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a single funny thing that happens in
it, and it made two hundred and

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forty seven million dollars. Talk to
Matt Rory about the fun Growing Ups franchise

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sometime. Oh really he will.
He'll have some things to say, Okay

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to you, it's about grown ups. There's a scene where Colin quinns working

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at an ice cream store and he's
trying to fix the machine, but the

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chocolate keeps coming out, and so
it looks like it's poop coming out of

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his butt and everyone standing at the
end line is laughing at Colin Quinn.

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Some good stuff, right for Colin. The only time anyone will ever laugh

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at col Quinn. I like Tough
Crowd, Remote Control was good. Yeah.

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I saw some stand up specially he
did recently and it was just store.

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I always have a tough spot for
Colin Quinn because anyone that followed Norm

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McDonald's on Weekend Update after he got
fired, I was destined to hate anyone

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that followed Norm and it was Colin
Quinn and he was one of the worst,

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is he. I haven't seen that
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Update, approached the desk with this
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giving a fuck. I actually liked
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just going through the jokes like he
you know, the jokes were so brain

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days. This happened to this happened. Yes there's a joke, all right,

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here's the next joke. Here go
next joke. I think the only

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things that ever made me laugh about
his time on the Weekend up Date was

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when Will Ferrell would do the Harry
Carey thing and accidentally will not accidentally call

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him Norm and get an actual lap
out of Collin Quinn. That always cracked

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me up. That's pretty good.
Yeah, that's pretty good. But no

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one can fall the north indeed.
Yeah, all right, Nola the best

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Weekend Up Date anchor for sure ever. Charles Rockett, he slid his throat

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in a field. What that he's
dead? What? He was also the

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rich asshole in Dumb and Dummer.
I actually don't know who you're talking about.

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He said fuck on the air.
Charles Rockett was like he was.

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Probably it was like early eighties,
like the Wow the Arrow when like people

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started first running their Saturday Night Dead
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it was like around the Eddie Murphy
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Charles Rockets when if Eddie wasn't on
the cast, that show would have died.

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He was the one thing keeping he
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man, I I I go.
I think uh. I think Tina

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Fey is the best. She's incredible, she's a great ill Like Norm McDonald

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just did what Norm McDonald always does, which is the best. Actually ring

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he actually didn't actually like, I
don't know, Norm McDonald is fine,

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but the top tier is Norm Tina
Seth Meyers is vastly underrated. He is

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great, totally. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't have his own show now.

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Yeah, feel like Norm McDonald's whole
thing brushes a little too into like

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Adam corolla territory for former taste at
times. He doesn't get all preachy and

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he doesn't get weird, like it
brushes up against Corolla's thing occasionally in a

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way where I'm just like I thought
Norm McDonald had turned in the kind of

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a wing nut in recent years.
Yeah, he's he's a thinking Rob Schneider,

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who is He's like a weird anti
vaccer and all that stuff. But

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but now Norm's just a very odd, odd guy, Like he stopped drinking.

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He hasn't. I think he's been
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I've seen him live several times and
it's just this weird meandering like halfway through

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the head he'll be like, ah, what do you guys want to talk

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about? Like he seems like he
could have, like he could have done

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this Letterman thing, like he could
have actually like been that type of talk

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show host and taking it in like
a Letterman direction of kind of not giving

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a fuck, Like I think that
that would have like it worked or still

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could. It does work if you
go to Norm McDonald live on YouTube.

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It is a fascinating show. It
is what you describe. It's him hosting

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like you know, a Letterman type
thing but not giving a fuck at all

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and just bringing on all of his
friends. Yeah, but is he's doing

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it out of his house like it's
it's something like shitty studio or whatever with

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like I think is like a a
sponsor or something just on YouTube. Yeah,

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and it's hilarious. He gets good. Guess the one with the Larry

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King is great. One with Billy
Bob Thornton's really good. Okay, super

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Dave Osborne, that's a great one. I think that whole like you know,

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online talk show done by people that
you are slightly too big to be

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doing an online talk show space is
sometimes really interesting. Like I watched a

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lot of that Tom Green show.
Tom Green was doing stuff out of his

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house and and just doing like a
straight up late night talk show, like

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you know, it's not the Tom
Green that's just like fucking rubbing his ass

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on ship and whatever. Like you
know, there's there's something to Tom Green.

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Man. Tom Green, he could
actually do a good interview and he's

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a credible rapper there. I said, really, check the No Wave hats

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that he put on an album with
like one of the Dust brothers producing it,

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and like it was actually like it's
not bad, it's not bad.

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Wow, But yes, checked,
there's nothing wrong with check the r What

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was the name of the groups organized
Rhyme? That's that's what. Yeah.

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Yeah that's a good name. Yeah, that's a good name for a rapper.

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It's good. It's a good name
for Tom Green's rapper. Yeah.

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Yeah, that's a great name for
a Canadian rapper. Yeah. Sure,

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he pulls out a good running man
in the video. Sure, why not?

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When I woke up this morning,
the people that I expected to reminisce

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about did not include Tom Green.
Yeah today? Who is he married to?

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Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I
like Freddy gott Fingered. I remember

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all. I remember of it a
lot. All I remember that about that

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is a deer? Right? Is
there a deer deer that urinates the first

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scene of the movie Tom Green?
And then deer starts peeing and then it's

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just a scream from there on out, just NonStop comedy. I remember.

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Is the sausages on the piano thing
that daddy, would you like? Tom

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Green is not is not that that
great in it? It's God, I'm

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blank on the guy's name. The
guy plays his father called character actor like

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super like I feel like a fucking
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Oh, character actors are there for
you to forget their names. Fair

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enough, fair enough, but like
he's incredible. Like the interplay between the

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two of them and the way it
escalates. I think it is actually pretty

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well done. And there's just a
scene in that movie where Tom Wreens goes,

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I got these jewels for you.
It just like gives this girl like

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there's at least fucking bag of jewelry, like just stones, not rings,

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just like here it's a bag of
Like it's just fucking stupid. That's a

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dumb fucking movie. Man. You
want to talk about the trials and tribulations

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of the podcast host. Here,
I am thinking, I'm just going to

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put Colin Quinn in the thumbnail for
this thing. And now I have a

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decision to make Colin Quinn. Do
I go Google Colin Quinn SNL we can

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update? Or sure, do I
google time? I mean sausages piano.

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It's your front runner right now.
I think let's get Colin Quinn is due.

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Yeah, I don't know, stay
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time you hear this, you will
have seen the image already. But comics

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love him. Comics like worship comic
Quinn. I'll change it after the fact.

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Really, that's it's because probably the
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he's so dark and self deprecating,
and but that can be good if done

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well. I think comics like him
that that Tough Crowd show, and that

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was on Comedy Central for a while. It was all just like bringing on

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kind of unknown comics or you know, under the radar comics and pretty cool

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thing back then. I mean all
all comedy comes from that place of oh

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yeah sure, And that's why I
think comics like him. Yeah. He

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just lets it out. Yeah,
he verbalizes the things that everybody else wants

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to say. Yeah, comics are
just largely very depressed people. Oh totally.

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Yeah, It's like that's the coping
mechanism, right boy, what are

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the light and cheery start we are
off too on this podcast? Yeah,

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comedy and video games it's the the
two halves of the Hey, but everybody

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that's your favorite comedy video game podcast. We're here to yuck it up by

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the latest happenings in the world of
video games. Let's get crazy. Now

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here's the bozo himself, Brad Shoemaker. Go. They're concerningly good at that.

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It's really depressing. I was thinking
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the sort of Greek theatrical dramatic tradition. Okay, yeah, you got

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your comedy mask and you got your
video video game mass Yeah no, I

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have the laugh now Cry later tattoo
on my forearm, just like everyone else.

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Would be the majora's mask, wouldn't
it right, Yes, of course

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that stupid thing. Jeff say that, well done. That'd be the frowny

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one. That'd be the video game
one mass fun, video game one.

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Let's talk about video games, Jeff, all right please. And the other

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one is the crash bandicube mask.
Yeah, yeah, I know that.

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That guy looks part of the UGA. Let's look at the guy's got his

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name just Ka Booga. He does
have it, he does. What about

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the the Ka Booga the shaman guy
from Battle Tests also wearing a mask?

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What about everyone in Viva Pinata?
Those aren't masks? We all humans are

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wearing masks, right, what about
what do they hide from? Bancho KAZOOI

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yeah, that guys are right.
The Cox of party Wow, Rare knows

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their masks yep. Jeff, Hello
video games? What about him? Did

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you play something? Oh? Sure, yeah, I mean let's let's talk

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about it. Okay, Yeah,
let's see geez. Uh yeah, I

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don't know. I'm gonna fiddling around
with a little bit of this, a

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little bit of that. Uh yeah, you know. It's but we've kind

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of, you know, there hasn't
been There wasn't a whole lot out over

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the last week, so I've kind
of just been messed around with stuff like

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I'm kind of reaching the end of
my time with uh stuff like far Cry,

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which I kind of stuck with and
finished again and and now I think

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I'm finally wrapped up with that for
for keeps. He's It's funny because they

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released that new DLC, which I
played once and went like, whatever I

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heard, it was not great.
It depends on what you want to do,

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you know. It's it's like a
it starts like there's a lot of

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custom vo, like there's new Pagan
men vo like to kind of setting up

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the thing. But it's like it's
a half hour like perma death mode,

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where like you kind of you know, if you get out there and do

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side stuff and take over take over
outposts and stuff, you get more time.

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But it's like it's basically you getting
from point A to point B,

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but if you don't do a much
stuff on the way there, when you

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get to point B, they might
blow up the helicopter that you're trying to

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use to escape, and so you
can take over outposts as you're trying to

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escape the prison. Yeah, so
no, it's not the prison. It's

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just a it is a it's an
island section. It is not it's not

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a reskin of the the story mode
Escape from that prison. Uh, it's

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it's nothing like that. So the
same map, it is not the same

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map as that prison. It as
you wake up at the top of a

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tower, run down the tower,
and try to get to where you're going.

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You start unarmed. You start with
a pistol, you start with a

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flare gun. Actually, but when
I did it, like you you walk

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down the flight of stairs, there's
a dead body with a pistol on it

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right there, So okay, you
kind of go from there, and then

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I died and tried it a couple
more times, got a little further,

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and I was just like, you
know what, this isn't like speed Far

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Cry is not at all interesting to
me. So your time, Yeah,

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set up cool multi kills. Yeah, so, I mean it's very different

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from the main game. Like I'll
give them that. I just don't think

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it's much fun. So so that
maybe is accelerating me being done with with

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Far Cry form. If you guys
get the Shredder in that game, no

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know what I'm talking about. Yes, that Weapony, isn't it. That's

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it's a submachine gun. There's there's
one called like the buzz or something to

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one of those. I don't know
why I would ever buy another gun after

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the Shredder though, Like, holy
shit, that's like it's three hundred is

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really expensive. But like the description
basically says like, yeah, here's the

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best gun in the game. It's
like it's it's super accurate, it's super

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powerful, and it's silenced. Oh
wow, Like what else do you need?

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That's great? Yeah, that sounds
good. Like every guy goes down

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in one burst from it. It's
super easily is like a three round burst

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thing. I think it might actually
shoot full atto. Okay, biggest thing

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is there's not as much smg ammo
lying around from what I can tell,

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so I've been running out of amo
for it some but I just probably need

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to craft the ammo bag finally.
Yeah, that would work. There's also

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one of the signature weapons in that
game is a is an assault rifle that's

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I think fullatto unsilenced, but that
you have to get to like fucking rank

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ten in the arena. Which who's
gonna get do that? Yeah? Yeah,

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this just opens up as part of
the story. Yeah, yeah,

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it seems stupid powerful. Did anyone
ever finish the Shangar live stuff? I

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put him together? Need to do
that? I just want to. I

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want to see how it plays out. But I got like three or four

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of those done out of the five, but I really don't like those sections.

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Yeah, it occurred to me that
I don't know about you, but

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I have been playing that game off
and on for two months. Yeah,

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how is it even possible? Yeah? Yeah, I mean that's yeah,

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yeah, oh yeah, sure it
is. But like when you talk about,

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like, oh, the November games
have kind of like I don't want

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to say they've worn out their welcome, but they've kind of run their course.

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We're not playing Mordor no, you
know, no, yeah, and

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I might. I had a Destiny
epiphany. Yes, I don't want to

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play that game ever again. Ever. Yeah, but I bought that season

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past though. Yeah, I don't
care. We're entitled to more content.

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I don't actually care because I made
this realize. I had this realization that

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maybe actually applies to every video game
that is treated as a service gone.

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None of it fucking matters. Nothing
in that game matters at all. Like

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there are people out there going like, well, I've got to get the

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Icebreaker this weekend because it's the best
gun in the game. And I just

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realized that. You know, by
the time I give a shit about Destiny

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again, they will have trivialized so
much of the past content that it will

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be an easier ramp. So why
fucking bash my head against trying to find

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shards, because by the time I
get around to playing it again, all

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that gear will be obsolete. Anyway, who fucking cares, They'll find a

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way to reset it all so you
can level it up third time. Yeah,

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So, so it would be a
waste of time for me to even

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upgrade this armor, they'd be a
waste of talk for me to ever do

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anything ever, because they're always just
gonna replace it with more ship. We're

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getting go the root of some very
deep philosophical issues here. Yeah, with

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the video games, embrace nothingness.
They added they said, like, hey,

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guys, we added new stuff to
the end of the hard mode raid.

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Yes, well that's that's where all
the primary weapons are. So nobody's

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gotten any of these, right,
Okay, so sure, I guess that's

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a little different that. But they're
gonna roll out next stuff. They'll raise

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the level cap and as part of
that it'll probably be it's like, oh,

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it's just thirteen coins to get the
startering piece for the second expansions gear.

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Like, okay, fine, when
I get back into Destiny, it's

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not gonna like penalize me for not
having played Destiny. Yeah you can.

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None of that shit fucking matters,
you know. I would I would say

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that doing the raid once would be
worthwhile for you, But beyond that,

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I would like to see it.
Yeah That's what I'm saying. But yeah,

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I would be interested in seeing that
content. The end of the value

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for you is seeing the raid but
not playing it again. But it's not

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so interested in it that I feel
like because right now, being whatever level

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twenty nine, like having to go
like, okay, well I have to

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go grind out some reputation so that
I can get another chest, and then

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I need to level up this chest
like not worth it, not fucking worth

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her. So yeah, I found
myself playing Diablo three. I see on

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the PC. I see, And
then that didn't really work out for me

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either, Yeah, because I actually
leveled past my PC character on the PS

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four it turns out I forgot.
But yeah, I was just like I

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was looking at my PC, going, what the fuck do I even have

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installed on this thing anymore? And
then realized that, like, oh yeah,

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the Battleneck client is here. It's
like, okay, well it's uninstalled

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Hartstone because fuck that. And then
realized Diablo three was there. It's like,

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oh, let's run that a little
bit, and yeah, all right,

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that's the dilemma of the lute driven
game. It's true where more content

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is introduced. I understand this this. Okay, So this happened over the

406
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:06.160
last week. I believe it is
over the last seven days. I now

407
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:10.400
understand how the Sphere Grid, and
finally Fantasy ten. Whoa wow, okay,

408
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.079
that is what do you think of
it? I think it's fucking terrible.

409
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:19.680
Man, it's wrong with you.
That's a great play. If you

410
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.640
want to tell me. When that
game came out, there were a lot

411
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.599
of games that had a lot of
bad fucking skill trees. So here's another

412
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:27.720
one. I don't think it will
give it to you. Games didn't even

413
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:32.400
really have like so I RPGs didn't
even Yes, I would give it so

414
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:34.039
yeah as something that like, you
know, okay, in Japan, they

415
00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:37.319
didn't necessarily play a lot of games
with skill trees and that sort of stuff.

416
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.400
So here's their their spin on it. I will grant you that.

417
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.599
But if you're gonna sit here and
tell me in twenty fifteen that the Sphere

418
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.240
Grid was anything more than total fucking
bullshit, it's like a you are fucking

419
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.039
crazy. It's like a skill tree
and you get to play a board game

420
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:53.200
at the same time. It is
the worst board game in the world.

421
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.079
Come on. Last time I played
it was in like two thousand and three,

422
00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.359
but I remember thinking, like,
this is a cool smart system.

423
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.480
Was neat Yeah exactly. I enjoyed
you want you want to see bullshit?

424
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:07.279
Go crack open Final Fantasy thirteen.
No, look at what they did to

425
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.759
the sphere grid in that game.
They made it three D. I'll fuck

426
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.519
that, Like remember, like you
know three D Chess from Star Trek.

427
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.000
Yeah, it's like that. No, it's like they took they took the

428
00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.440
sphere grid and added layers to it. It was terrible. It took me

429
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:22.480
hours of fucking with it and going
like I don't even I'm not even sure,

430
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.079
Like why can't I spends points here? What can't you spend points here?

431
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.680
Wow? What governs how I move? I don't remember a lot of

432
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:32.559
the specifics. I just I remember
thinking it was kind of cool. It's

433
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:36.440
not it's fine. It's makes you, makes you, forces you to make

434
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:37.559
some hard choices about how you want
to build your cares. Not really though,

435
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:40.960
I mean, like any any any
skill tree does that, Like that

436
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.039
information could be presented any more concise
and direct manner. Is what I want?

437
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:48.000
Is what I am telling. That
may be true, it's been a

438
00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:52.480
long time, like that thing is
a cockamami fucking roundabout passive garbage again,

439
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.559
though, you got you gotta think
of the context of the JRPG genre at

440
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:56.559
the time. Oh yeah, they're
always I mean, yes, the whole

441
00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.400
genres garbage, so why not put
the system into them? Like fine,

442
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:04.880
totally, yes, I thought it
was all right, but holy shit.

443
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:10.920
So that that is the part as
as my as my girlfriend plays through Final

444
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.799
Fantasy ten, I am in charge
of the sphere grid, like you make

445
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:18.680
the choices. We have agreed upon
the directions we're heading, okay to build,

446
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:22.759
So I'm only playing the sphere grid. Okay, so you just like

447
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.240
you do you just get the controller
as soon as it comes up. Yeah,

448
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:27.079
yeah, like I'm doing something else. And then she's like, you

449
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.720
need to sphere grade me. It's
like all right, fine, and I'm

450
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.519
going through and spending all the points
like okay, well okay, this guy's

451
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.160
got two hundred more hit points and
now okay, yeah we were not we're

452
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:40.359
not too thunder Raga yet, but
we're getting there. Should get there.

453
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:44.039
It's yeah, it's a good place
to be. How are you building Teitos.

454
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.759
We're heading in the direction of Hastaga
right now. Well, Lulu,

455
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.720
I seem to remember that being pretty
good. Lulu has her second set of

456
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:53.359
spells and we're heading towards the three. Are you guys going for any of

457
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.559
the Ultimate weapons or are you deep
in enough for that? Yeah? No,

458
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.559
I don't think so. It's were
at the second Seymore fight, I

459
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:03.200
guess more. Okay, that's I
think it's pretty far in right. I

460
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.559
have no fucking ideas is that when
you kill him for real? Uh no,

461
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.400
you find him four times over the
course four times? I think you

462
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.359
think so. I don't know.
I haven't seen the last part of that

463
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:12.640
game, but I when I looked
it up and when I said like,

464
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.319
oh, let's look up this fight
is like it was not clear which version

465
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.440
of c Moore was. I only
played that game once. It's been a

466
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:22.319
while. The voice acting, there's
a I mean, yeah, it's like

467
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.359
and playing it now, I mean
I never held that game in high regard

468
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:27.960
and also did not play it when
originally came out, But coming to it

469
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:32.079
now like it is clunky ash Yeah
yeah, I know, sure, But

470
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:33.319
you know at the time, like
the voice acting and all that stuff,

471
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.279
you just look at it like there
are some things about it. I'm playing

472
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:37.880
the playing on the PS three and
it's like, okay, well, actually,

473
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.880
you know, there's some aspects of
the production and presentation aspect of this.

474
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.279
This is actually somewhat impressive, but
like whoever created these like Cloister of

475
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:49.519
Trials sections and all this shit like
just bogging down this game with even more

476
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:53.319
fucking garbage, or like at some
point you really see the this notion of

477
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.680
like, well it needs to be
a forty hour, right, I mean

478
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.599
it's coming out of the genre where
like like dozens of hours is somehow like

479
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.759
like a dozens of hours to complete
these games is like a batch of honor

480
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.720
for some reason, we're used to
be We need to get the destructions fares.

481
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.240
I put this one in the wall
and it just vaporized. What's your

482
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.680
guys understanding of why Titus's dad in
that game turns into like a demon whale

483
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.640
when it turns into sin yeah,
white, what happens there? I just

484
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.519
remember fighting a whale and it said
it was my dad, and then I

485
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:27.119
was a ghost or something. It's
not your dad, it's your old man.

486
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.880
Oh okay, my old man was
a real dick. I'm gonna tell

487
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.279
you again in first person. I've
got my old man. I'm gonna tell

488
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.160
you a story and then you're gonna
hear me as a kid as if my

489
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.599
fucking adult voiceover couldn't be annoying enough. You'll hear kid me being a real

490
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.640
piece of shit. Oh my god, this fucking game. I don't know.

491
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.759
At the time, it wasn't you
know, how good is the voice

492
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.160
acting? It was holy crap,
Final Fantasy he has that that was a

493
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:53.440
big deal. I mean, yeah, I don't want to take anything away

494
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:59.160
from the achievements of when it was
originally released, Like games weren't doing that

495
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:03.880
stuff, they they because that was
like one years the PS two. It

496
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.279
would have been the second holiday season
of the Pills two. That was the

497
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:07.880
same as like GTA three and Middle
Gear two. Like that was a fucking

498
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.480
holiday season and that was Halo.
Yeah, okay, yeah, two thousand

499
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.279
and one. Yeah that was huge. Yeah that was a big year.

500
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:15.720
Yeah, totally. Like I yeah, I don't want to take away from

501
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.799
what it achieved in its era,
but I'm saying someone someone coming to it

502
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:23.519
now. Aroon is the only interesting
character. It's because his arm is a

503
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.079
sling, just like Fresh Kid Ice
from two Last Cruise. Arm is in

504
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.599
a sling and he carries around a
juggle liquor all the time. Yeah,

505
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.559
yeah, it's pretty cool. His
arm must hurt, and the giant sword

506
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:34.559
because you never know when you're gonna
need one. It's cool fucking glasses or

507
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.759
the other. That dude seems all
right, yeah he's cool everybody else,

508
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.279
fuck everyone, But yeah, I
tried to play that that remake last year,

509
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:42.200
and yeah, like three hours into
it and I was like, this

510
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.079
does not hold up. I can't, I don't. I would rather not

511
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.640
sully my memory of this. I'm
just gonna stop. How did the cut

512
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.480
scenes hold up? Because I remember
being blown away by that first one where

513
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:53.319
sins coming up, it comes out
of the blitz ball thing is still decent.

514
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.759
I remember stuffed to look at it, like it looks pretty good,

515
00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.960
but I think a lot of the
faces look really fucking bad. Yeah.

516
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:02.240
Uh. And that's the sort of
stuff that like, you know, obviously

517
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:03.440
that technology is progressed, but you
look at it now and it's like,

518
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:11.160
specially you have like cg tightest face
and and well is it tical? It

519
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.160
sounds stupid, but that's that's what
it is. It's dumb fucking water soccer.

520
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.680
Yeah, dumb motherfucker all right?
Uh yeah, yeah, So you

521
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:25.160
end up in cases where like I
think that cgi fucking pre rendered Tedis face

522
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.839
looks terrible. It looks like a
chipmunk or something, okay, and then

523
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:32.440
in game Titos face is like,
okay, well that's recognizable as a video

524
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:34.400
game protagonist. That works out.
But a lot of the faces and in

525
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.400
the in the cut scenes, I
think, look, uh, kind of

526
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.000
bad. I was gonna say something
about that game, and I've forgotten what

527
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.200
it was. Is it are que
to move on? Yeah? Probably don't

528
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:49.160
fancy all the overdrive element reels and
Waka's a real piece of shit. Did

529
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.359
you play ten too? Because I
made it like thirty minutes into the game.

530
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:59.680
I feel like I watched it thirty
it seemed pretty terrible. I it's

531
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:00.920
fancy service. I mean, you
know, it's like all of a sudden,

532
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:02.799
like what the is going on?
Stuff was all right, It's just

533
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.680
it clashed so much with the tone
of ten that makes me. I mean,

534
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:09.839
like, this is the thought of
ten two having like this sort of

535
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:13.559
like fuck it fan service thing to
it. I think puts a lot of

536
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.839
Final Fantasy ten, the developers intentions
and a lot of stuff into stark relief

537
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:20.319
where you're just like, oh,
they don't really give a shit, Like

538
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.039
it's just like, oh, they're
just like whatever. They just want to

539
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:23.319
tell into the story without his characters, so they just gend up like whatever,

540
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:27.920
fine, you know. I mean
it was one thing that the tone

541
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.599
was very distinctive in or kind of
incongruous, But the bigger problem was that

542
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:35.720
they they basically undid everything with emotional
impact that they did at the end of

543
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.960
ten. You know, it probably
seems like that game shouldn't have been called

544
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.720
ten two if it had just been
like, you know, here's our dumb

545
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.640
pop star fan service Final Fantasy tens. You know, like they're bringing back

546
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.279
character, bringing characters back to life
whose deaths were supposed to be emotionally resonant

547
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.559
in ten you know, who cares
and they're just like they're they're life.

548
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.119
Whatever. Yeah, it's dumb.
You want to play this game? We

549
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.359
wanted to make it. I don't
know, right, the assets were done,

550
00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.799
we did, you know, the
assets and the engine were costly.

551
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:01.680
Let's just another game out of it. Yeah, I don't know. Uh,

552
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.400
yeah, I didn't. I didn't
put it in news, but there

553
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:06.920
was a new guy running uh or
I mean, it wasn't really a new

554
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.880
story. I just saw some stuff
about it. It's like it just happened,

555
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.759
but there's a there's a new guy
officially running Final Fantasy. Now,

556
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.240
yeah, I thought of that because
Cliff Plazinski. Yep, it's just about

557
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.519
to make that Joke's weird, that's
the exact name. I'm just about to

558
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.119
say, weird being maze tell often
that starts happening. Uh yeah, Like

559
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:29.799
I feel like ten was. Somebody
will probably angrily correct me on this,

560
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:31.799
but like ten was sort of the
last big outing of kind of the old

561
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.400
Final Fantasy guard if that makes sense, right, yeah, yeah, But

562
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.759
like eleven was an MMO, so
that was made by different people, right,

563
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:42.240
Twelve was made by Matsnou who was
the Tactics guy and was set in

564
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.640
the Tactics universe, and then thirteen
was this weird mishmash like whatever. But

565
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:51.480
I feel like ten was like the
culmination of that whole like PlayStation era of

566
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:53.319
of Final Fantasy games. Oh sure, and they kind of never got past

567
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:55.799
it, you know. Yeah,
like they've tried to recreate it in some

568
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:59.920
ways. They never got past seven. If you if you really want,

569
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:01.720
you know, like like that's it's
still the game people want, like for

570
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:05.839
as much as people enjoy ten and
have their favorites, like a lot of

571
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:07.519
people like eight, a lot of
people like nine. Whatever. It is

572
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.360
like they have been completely unable to
get past seven. And it's I think

573
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.920
that a lot of people have been
able to unable to past seven. I

574
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.840
don't think, yeah, that's not
but yeah, sure, yeah, but

575
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.440
it's just the people whose first RPG
was Final Fantasy seven. Sure, totally

576
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:28.480
yeah for that game. Yeah uh, And they should probably just actually do

577
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.880
the real remake of that game,
Like when you think about it, like

578
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.320
you think about the reasons they don't
do it, being that they would have

579
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:38.079
to start from scratch and produce all
new high res models for these characters,

580
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.480
redo all the cg Like, you
know, the expense that they would put

581
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.239
into that game would be on par
with developing an all new Final Fantasy Games.

582
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:51.719
Yeah, I think. But don't
you think a proper remake of Final

583
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.920
Fantasy seven would sell at least as
well, if not better than another numbered

584
00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:00.440
Final Fantasy sequel? Maybe, Like
that's that seems like the you know,

585
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:05.320
like for a company that has been
on the brink of disaster and seems to

586
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.960
occasionally do things that are pretty financially
motivated, whatever, their company, every

587
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:12.960
company, but you know you can't. You can't bet the farm if you're

588
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.199
in that risky position. You know, I feel I can't make this.

589
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.320
They still need the capital up front
to fund this shirt, they still need

590
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:22.960
to bake the investment. But the
lowest risk investment they could make is,

591
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:27.360
hey, we remade Final Fantasy seven? Is it? You saw the fucking

592
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.559
people at that thing in Vegas flip
out as soon as that PC version made

593
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:31.639
it the screen, before they realize
they were being duped. I guess,

594
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:35.320
But how many of those people actually
are there? I mean, how many

595
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.519
of those? But but like,
how many people? How many people care

596
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:42.159
about an all new Final Fantas?
How many? Well, not many?

597
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.480
Like thirteen three years, whereas like
how many people would you drag back in

598
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.840
that don't care about model current Final
Fantasy? Maybe by saying you're making seven,

599
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.599
play I play a new seven just
to see what's up. It's like,

600
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:54.920
hey, we made the snowboarding better. I would be curious to see

601
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:58.719
it. I guess I have no
interest in like the thirteen stuff they're doing

602
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.320
now, but I would plays done. That's done. They put a lid

603
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:06.840
on that. Yeah, Like I
just I'm surprised that that that that that

604
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.400
company hasn't actually revisited that stuff in
the right and in the way that people

605
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.760
seem to want them to. The
ship may have sailed at this point,

606
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.719
is the Yeah, probably, Like, but every generation of consoles, it

607
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.440
gets more and more expensive to make
games because the level of fidelity and stuff

608
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.519
is going up. But at the
same time, like then you're saying the

609
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.360
ship is sailed on a big numbered
Final Fantasy game as well, because like,

610
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.800
you know, it's the same money. Well yeah, but well you

611
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.840
know who knows what they're doing with
fifteen to minimize costs or make it more

612
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:36.440
efficient for this type of playing a
web browser. Yeah, part of it,

613
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:38.400
the snowboarding part runs in unity.
The rest is that's fair. Just

614
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:43.599
flash that demo is coming out in
a couple of months so we can find

615
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.719
out or heard something about that game
being like a road movie. Yeah,

616
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.800
I feel like that immediately makes me
like, if that's what the fact game

617
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.239
is, that immediately makes me want
to not that gonna be humorous in the

618
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:58.559
same way. Sure, even the
idea of a road trip, I mean,

619
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:00.039
if you think about it being at
the core or the Final Fantasy game,

620
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.000
But like At the same time,
isn't every single Final Fantasy game like

621
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:07.079
sort of a road drill? Like
more explicitly, I think more explicitly,

622
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.840
the characters are in a car driving
on highways. I don't know the car.

623
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:14.599
Can the car get a flying upgrade? When some mechanic names SID comes

624
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.280
by. They come by and go
like, I put wings out of your

625
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.559
car, and then they install a
drill on the front of the car and

626
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:23.079
then you can go into the earth. Yeah, I mean sounds exciting.

627
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:28.199
Yeah, so you'll see Final Fantasy
tens to its conclusion. I don't I

628
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:32.199
don't know. Somebody in your house
will maybe, oh does that not even

629
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:36.360
as sured at some point she might
actually just go like that, which has

630
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:40.079
almost happened a couple of Wow,
has she played it before? Well,

631
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.239
I guess said, you know that's
that's that was my response about three hours

632
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.679
in. So yeah, who knows? Is that it? Yeah? I

633
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:52.360
think I think it might actually,
but they slow month be it? Not

634
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.480
a lot going on? Yeah?
Well, so, well we played sports

635
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:59.559
ball around here, yes, which
is out in the w U E Shop.

636
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:02.679
Yes. Uh, that's like like
joust to put some sports stuff.

637
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.159
I'm not a huge fan of it. It's got a really good song.

638
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:08.960
Yeah, yeah, that songs good. I also bought Meme Run, which

639
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.599
we've been meming to do a quick
look though. Pretty soon here, pretty

640
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:21.760
good. That game is a real
shit factory I had when I was watching

641
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:25.079
you play it, I had to
admire their gusto though. Yeah, they

642
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:29.880
make that thing as rotten with memes
as they possibly can. I guess.

643
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:31.360
I mean, it's like it's not
even yeah, at some point, it's

644
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.039
just like it's the montage style,
right, It's like the presence of the

645
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.960
memes themselves. It's not funny,
it's that they went so far with it.

646
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:42.360
It's like a Bobo's Big Adventure,
but for Reddit memes, I guess,

647
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:45.440
you know, it's just like here's
you know, Illuminati signs and big

648
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:49.920
you know, Rainbow Dancing frogs and
then you know Hit Marker, you know

649
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.440
Call of Duty Gun Hit Marker stuff, And I want to know what a

650
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.320
Bobo's Big Adventure. That's a flash
Oh my god, you should play it.

651
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:59.239
It's like just the biggest love letter
to the nes. So you play

652
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:02.320
as a Bobo and yeah it's free
flash game and you play through just like

653
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.840
every like all the sprites and stuff
from every ans game you could ever imagine,

654
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:08.599
like a punch out fight. I
think it's the last boss. Like

655
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:13.000
it's it's really really good. I've
waited so long to play as a bobo.

656
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.960
Yeah, we'll find whatever any s
Double Dragon mode b man. Really

657
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:20.960
Yeah, it was a shitty fighting
game. Wow. And you could play

658
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.559
as weird anys a Bobo, which
is just a fucking scary prospect anyway you

659
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:29.280
look at it. Speaking of a
Bobo. Double Dragon Trilogy is out on

660
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:32.000
Steam. Oh yeah, I took
a look at that. Uh dot mu

661
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:38.400
uh dot emu. It's a developer
that's done some some emulation style ports and

662
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.960
stuff like that to iOS in the
past. This just appears to be something

663
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.000
that they probably did for iOS and
Android uh dumped out on the PC for

664
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:51.480
four bucks. What versions are they? Arcade? So it's a weird So

665
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:57.360
it's arcade art, but it'll run
it any resolution and like it's it's they're

666
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.760
doing weird stuff to it where it's
not it's you know, the music cues

667
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:07.000
don't line up, like they're not
emulating the games in a purely faithfully fashion.

668
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.599
They've made parted it and made changes
or see it that's kind of what

669
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:13.280
it seems like. I don't know
what's going on under the hood with it,

670
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:16.159
but you know, you're not coining
up, you know. And then

671
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:20.239
they have like an arcade and story
mode option in there, which I have

672
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.760
no idea what the difference between those
two things that even would be. But

673
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.119
I mean the arcade version, I
had all the story anybody could handle exactly,

674
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:30.800
let's be honest. Totally. Yeah, So they're weird, they control

675
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.480
a little funky, and but it
was a good reminder that Double Dragon three

676
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:38.960
is that we're talking about that on
this show. Really now you said that

677
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:42.079
all the needs to be said to
make me want to talk about Double Dragon

678
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:45.719
three, So please commence. Boy, what a terrible fucking game is it?

679
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:47.840
Yeah? Isn't the one that had
different characters you could pick from you

680
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:51.760
didn't pick from them? Well,
it probably depending on which version you played.

681
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:53.760
I'm talking about the arcade version,
which had a store where you could

682
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:59.199
literally drop in an extra quarter to
buy power ups and stuff like that.

683
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.960
Holy shit, that's where it came
up in a quick look. Yeah,

684
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.199
we were talking about Double Dragon three. Did it come out on the Yeah,

685
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:08.039
that was totally different game that was
the game that it says Bimmy and

686
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:13.519
Jimmy Lee in it, and it's
a fucking weird but yeah, the Arcade

687
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.760
game was not like one and two. It didn't have the elbow, so

688
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:21.039
fuck that game. It had like
you could run. It had like crazy

689
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.159
weird animation that was trying to be
a little more realistic, like it looked

690
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:27.280
like Trade West made it if I
guess it just has that look. Or

691
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.280
there are other Playboo characters besides the
Lea's, yeah, two others. So

692
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:32.559
how it would work is you would
go in the shop and you would buy

693
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:37.519
what it's called extra guys. You
would put in a quarter and and buy

694
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.719
extra guys, and then when your
Lee brother died, you would get a

695
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.639
Kickboxer or some of these other you
know, those ambulther characters that were in

696
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:51.079
it, and it was ridiculous.
You'd also buy nunchucks, which didn't have

697
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.199
range on them in this because they
used them like they were real nunchucks.

698
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:57.800
They're just whipping around. This is
silly. This is not why I bought

699
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.760
these. Great it's a four dollars. Yeah, it's on sale right now.

700
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:05.239
I think it's somewhere around four.
But whole trilogy. Yeah, I

701
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.360
still I don't. I don't like
what they did to those games. I

702
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:13.119
probably wouldn't recommend picking it up.
If you're looking for faithful Double Dragon,

703
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.880
it doesn't seem like that. This
is what it's come to, Dark Days

704
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:20.440
of January. If you want faithful
Double Dragon. Talking about ports of Double

705
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.000
Dragons, you need to play Station
four. Oh yeah, because its version.

706
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.239
Yes, Hampster has emulated the arcade
version of Double Dragon, just the

707
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.320
first one though. Yes, And
if you have eight dollars in a Japanese

708
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:36.039
account eight hundred and twenty yen,
don't don't. Actually that's too much money

709
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.559
to pay for an emulation. And
like a Double Dragon emulator, what if

710
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:44.199
it came out of here, it
would still be like that, but then

711
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:45.280
you wouldn't have to fiddle with the
Japanese account. Yeah, I mean,

712
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.800
maybe's a little bit easier. Maybe
it's worth it. That seems like that

713
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.480
seems like one that should have come
out here. What was the other one?

714
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:53.679
Maybe the only one that's come out
in the US. Double Dragon probably

715
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:57.800
plays in the US better than anything
else they make. Yeah, yeah,

716
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:00.639
yeah, I would not be shocked
to see that come over. Gradius is

717
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.039
supposedly coming to Peace four pretty soon
here too. So that's an okay version

718
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.639
of that. I don't think I've
ever seen that. Yeah, it's it's

719
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:10.719
the okade version. Let's just still
got the MOI heads, m yep,

720
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:17.239
Easter Islands and space weird game.
Yeah, okay, Dan, Yes got

721
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:22.360
out of hill? Yes, you
got out of hill? Presumably I did.

722
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:24.840
I escaped. Let's talk about it. It's a new Saints Row product,

723
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:29.199
it is. It's a standalone thing. It comes with the re elected

724
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.920
edition of Saints Row four on the
new consoles, or you can just download

725
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.519
it by itself on you know whatever
console. What is it twenty Yeah,

726
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:38.480
I don't know. The game stop
had a listing for five Yeah. I

727
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:40.880
think that. I don't know if
that was a mistake. I got corrected

728
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.559
pretty quickly, but I think some
people did manage to order it for five

729
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:49.360
bucks, which it seems more appropriate. Maybe it's more appropriate than what I've

730
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.679
seen. It's you know, it's
not bad. You know, I gave

731
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.559
it three stars in the review.
Uh, it's it's more Saints. I

732
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.039
just kind of felt that with the
Shift to Hell, you know, this

733
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.159
whole new setting and everything they could
have done a lot more to it,

734
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:05.079
and it really just kind of feels
like more of the same like powers and

735
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.880
ship from four, Like it's almost
identically the same powers. Like you can

736
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.559
just straight up fly, right,
that's you can fly and you get these

737
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.239
you can upgrade how many flaps you
get which speed you up and get up

738
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:16.199
to five. So it's nice to
soar around and like, you know,

739
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:19.440
I'm kind of a completionist with stuff, so I had a lot of fun

740
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.199
just flying around getting orb clusters and
stuff like that. You know, wound

741
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.480
up spending seven hours with it,
got close to one hundred percent and kind

742
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:30.920
of mainline the story and maybe two
hours, maybe closer to three. But

743
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:34.239
yeah, it's like all the diversions
and stuff are just little tiny tweaks on

744
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.159
stuff that we've already seen for years, like which I mean, that's the

745
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.920
stuff that four did by taking it
into like computer land or whatever. You

746
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:43.239
know. The whole thing was like, oh, we're amping up and making

747
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.760
the things from three weird, and
to do that again seems crazy. Yeah,

748
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:52.079
and it's it's not particularly funny or
that fun or different to play.

749
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:53.800
Like, you know, insurance fraud
is now torment fraud, so you're playing

750
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:58.639
is these you know, souls in
hell and trying to get years shaved off

751
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.079
your sentence or whatever. But it
plays the exact same as insurance fraud.

752
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:05.400
So yeah, there's not a whole
lot of new stuff outside. Like the

753
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.000
flying stuff is pretty cool, but
but I don't like not being able to

754
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.480
customize my character at all. So
I mainly played as Kncy. You can

755
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:14.840
play as Kenzi or Gat, but
how do you switch. You just go

756
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:16.440
to the old Tour Corporations tower and
you can just hit wire or whatever and

757
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.679
it switches between him. But that's
one of my favorite things about Saints It

758
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.119
is like I remember playing all of
Saints Row the third co op, and

759
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.159
we were the nark guys, like
we were able to buy like the motorcycle

760
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:29.079
helmets and stuff, and I was
a red guy, he was blue guy.

761
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:30.679
And I just love, you know, being able to customize. People

762
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.239
get way into that stuff, and
it's like one of the selling points of

763
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:36.760
Saints Row to me at this point. For me, the selling point is

764
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.320
is the characters and the kind of
the quality of the writing and stuff around

765
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:43.480
it. So it's you know,
like I didn't get too into customizing.

766
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.559
Like when I think about my version
of the Boss. He's got you know,

767
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:51.280
triple H facial hair, like you
know, motorhead shops and dreads and

768
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:54.000
he's a fucking weird though. But
you know, like whatever teaches own.

769
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:59.360
So I'm not that didn't necessarily like
put me off of this like that you

770
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.079
were playing his fixed characters. For
me, it was specifically that I think

771
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:06.079
Johnny Gatt is lame. He is, Yeah, and it's no different here.

772
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:07.519
That's why I played as Kenzie most
of the times. I like her.

773
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.800
Yeah, is actually kind of like
my favorite character from yeah, from

774
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:14.559
those games. So yeah, but
yeah, but even like clothing stuff,

775
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:15.800
you can't can't alter any of that
stuff. But you know, a lot

776
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:21.440
of the bigger mechanics and like progression
stuff is there, Like you're upgrading all

777
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:22.719
your weapons and stuff, and there
there's a lot of new like hell weapons

778
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.559
and things. You're upgrading your character, you're collecting the soul clusters and upgrading

779
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.159
your powers and stuff like that.
Stuff is still fun to do, but

780
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.920
it's it's just stuff that you've done
several times before. You know. There's

781
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:37.480
no radio stations, no customization,
they you know, some little things I

782
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:39.679
had to do considering the scope of
the game. No radio stations, what

783
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:44.000
you get in a car. Well, first of all, you don't ever

784
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.320
need yeah why would you? But
yeah, you know, outside of the

785
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:51.960
kind of scenes where it turns into
a damn musical, I don't remember hearing

786
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.679
any I don't think there's no music
in it. I like standards claimer.

787
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:58.400
I only played the very beginning of
it before it came in, like the

788
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:02.559
first thirty forty five minutes or something. But like it feels incredibly flat and

789
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:06.079
lifeless for a Saints ro game.
Yeah, that's the impression I got,

790
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:07.079
you know, we did that quick
look, and I've been kind of watching

791
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:12.400
you play it here and there.
Yeah, it just seems like the world,

792
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:16.199
Yeah, the world in particular feels
super it's lifeless because everybody's dead,

793
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.280
but like it just seems like the
most like bone stock to take on.

794
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.760
Hell's like there's lava, like yeah, all right, but like just nothing

795
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.880
going on, you know, like
there's nothing to look at in the city.

796
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:29.320
Like it doesn't feel lively. It's
not an entertaining place to be the

797
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.920
way that like Steelport was and that
kind of thing. All the pedestrians are

798
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.199
like the same, just kind of
lifeless, hust right now, right,

799
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:37.840
Yeah, there's there's not not not
much personality in that world at all.

800
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:42.239
Yeah, which is like it's like
maybe the most damning thing you could say

801
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.079
about a Saints Row game is there's
not that much personality. Yeah, you

802
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.840
know it. Meat Loaf is not
in it though. No, no's that's

803
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.159
that's unfortunate. It's just like it
again, I haven't seen the whole thing,

804
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:58.920
but the first impression is that it
feels kind of low rent in a

805
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.400
way. Does that makes sense,
Yeah, Like it feels like through it,

806
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.559
it seems like that. Yeah.
There's lots of little technical issues and

807
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.960
stuff, like we saw plenty of
flick frame rate drops. There's frame rate

808
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:12.159
stuff. There's like all kinds of
weird little bugs and like transitional issues that

809
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:14.960
happen. Yeah, like if you
end a diversion while you're flying, it'll

810
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:16.440
just like really quickly just put you
on the ground and like cut to a

811
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:22.079
quick like one screen, or like
if you fallow yeah yeah, yeah,

812
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:23.280
and stuff like that, like like
if you fall in lava, it's not

813
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:27.440
actually lava that you fall into,
it's just like your character just lands on

814
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.519
it like it's ground and then the
screen fades to black. Like, well,

815
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:32.079
it's just ground with a lava texture
on it, and then it cuts

816
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.360
you do upgrade like things so you
can run run lava. Yeah right,

817
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.880
but but still like it just the
fit and finish like those games have always

818
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:44.079
you know, open world Jank or
whatever aside, those always felt like pretty

819
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:47.159
slick productions to me. The first
couple had a lot Okay, well technically,

820
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:52.519
let's let's say the three and four
define like the modern era a lot

821
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.400
better. Yeah, like starting at
three, like, those games have felt

822
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:59.679
very slick to me, And to
see this one, it's more Jay than

823
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:01.639
three. Like it's just kind of
like the seams are showing all over it

824
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:04.360
from what I could see. Yeah, and I guess, like you know,

825
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.280
on some level, I was I
was hoping for better performance on these

826
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:12.559
console vers over you're playing on Xbox
One, and yeah, just didn't seem

827
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.280
to run that great. Yeah,
I mean it didn't look any better than

828
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.239
in the last jan or anything.
So yeah, that's a shame. Like,

829
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.440
if anything, it almost makes me
wonder if the ambition of this thing

830
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:27.679
outstripped the budget they had for it, because like to build a whole,

831
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.639
a whole new open world that hasn't
been seen before on in a game that's

832
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:35.519
only going to retail for at most
twenty dollars or free with another package.

833
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.000
It seems insane, Like they didn't
even do that for four, which ended

834
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.719
up being a full price release.
You know, Yeah, this isn't just

835
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:44.920
steel Port but Lava, Like it's
a new city, new assets, new

836
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.960
stuff. But to try to do
that on this like shoestring budget or whatever

837
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.239
that they probably had to get this
thing done, I don't know. It

838
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.000
seems like it just feels stretched really
thin from what I've seen of it,

839
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:58.840
and there's not really like real story
missions, Like there's a couple, but

840
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.159
mostly it's like, hey, do
all these diversions for different people in Hell

841
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.800
until you unlock a cut scene and
then move on from the next set of

842
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.760
diversions. Yeah. Like I did
the black Beard one before I turned it

843
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.239
off, and I was like,
really, that's it. Yeah. I

844
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:14.719
know, there's like a loyalty mission
for each historical figure that unlocks after you

845
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:16.360
do it, but like, based
on what I got from doing the initial

846
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.679
black Beard mission, I was like, I don't really want to follow up

847
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:23.559
with him, Like there's just nothing
there. Yep. It's a weird way

848
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:28.360
to extend the you know, like
you've got this pretty hot property on your

849
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.239
hands, Like it's kind of a
weird thing to do with that. Yeah,

850
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.480
yeah, Saintsburg was such a fucking
weird thing, you know, like,

851
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.800
yeah, it is a hot property. But it's hard sometimes it's hard

852
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:39.079
to think of it as such.
You know, it's it's it's really you

853
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:40.760
know, I mean, they've had
their four games, Like I you know,

854
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:45.400
I think one and two are such
distant memories that I just don't think

855
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:47.840
that they matter in the conversation anymore. But I think three was outstanding,

856
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.960
especially as a pivot from what two
was. It was fucking mind blowing.

857
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:57.480
But then you know, four was
was good, but kind of felt like

858
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.719
it was coasting a little bit,
you know, same city, just everything

859
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:04.840
blue, and then this, you
know, like I don't know, it

860
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.639
seemed like they were out there talking
about wanting to take a break from Saints

861
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.039
and now they're owned by Deep Silver
and who just bought the IP and the

862
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:14.239
developer, and maybe they're hot to
get some of that Saints Row money.

863
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:16.760
Let's start to wonder like are they
gonna just keep pumping out Saints Row or

864
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:21.880
are they gonna really take a break
because the ending of Saints Row four leaves

865
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:23.280
things in a place where they could
do everything or nothing, right, you

866
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:28.199
know, this follows directly from that. Yeah, this isn't even seems more

867
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.039
like everything. This this seems more
like, well, you know, because

868
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.960
of the open ended nature of the
end of Saints Row four, we can

869
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:37.119
tell any story we want with these
characters in any time, in a place

870
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.159
and anything. But they actually are
establishing this as like there is a chronology

871
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:44.639
after four here because Jane Austen is
on the ship with you. Yeah.

872
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:45.760
Yeah, so like they're like,
hey, this happened after four, you

873
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:49.360
know, like right if anything after
four? You just kind of wanted,

874
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.119
like I has tate to use the
word reboot, but like kind of just

875
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:55.119
I still think that it's weird because
I still think that that's probably the only

876
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:58.599
thing they can do totally. You
know, you talked about it a bit

877
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:00.800
in the review, this idea of
just like how much more can you keep

878
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:05.639
pumping up the crazy incense row and
have it still worth They are now a

879
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.239
band of space faring adventurers, and
also there's no more Earth or human race,

880
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.360
so like, I don't know where
else you go, Well, what

881
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:13.440
were they hinting at at the end
of four with like I don't know who

882
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:15.559
Jane Austin is, but she was
dressing like old timey clothes the famous author.

883
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:19.119
So they but from like the eighteen
hundreds or something. If you've heard

884
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:22.320
of sense and sensibility, I've heard
these basics. It's the Air Force gator,

885
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:23.880
if it's if it's era, really
if that helps? Oh okay,

886
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.519
okay, she's well Respectedly, she's
well respected, is what I'm saying.

887
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:29.559
Okay, but like eighteen hundreds,
right, yes, yeah, so they

888
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:31.239
were they were hinting at some kind
of time travel stuff there, see that

889
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:36.199
would be more forget how that came
into How did that even enter the story?

890
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:37.400
Well, it's like by the time
you when you finish four, the

891
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:40.039
narrator, Yeah, like she hadn't
turned out to be the narrator the whole

892
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.840
time. But I don't remember what
how time travel even came into it.

893
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:45.000
They pull out in such a way
that like, you know, you kind

894
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.480
of breaking out of the cyber simulation
or whatever, like you're able, Like

895
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.840
you by beating those aliens, you're
able. I think you uncover sometimes just

896
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:57.039
time or whatever. Okay, and
you're able to kind of do your thing.

897
00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:58.800
That was the kind of the thought
coming out of that one was like,

898
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:00.079
well, if they continue, the
story will have to be some kind

899
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.800
of like Saints through the Ages type
thing, right, So yeah, you

900
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:05.599
end up in that situation where it
was like, okay, well, each

901
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:07.519
game, you know, they could
do a series of one offs, like

902
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:10.679
Get Out of Hell, where it's
like, you know, here's this ragtag

903
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:14.960
group of misfits, you know,
trapsing their way through time and space and

904
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.559
they end up in these different situations. So here's our Hell one, here's

905
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.559
our Mafia one. You know,
like they could have gone down that road.

906
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:23.239
Maybe they still will, which was
funny. In three, the third

907
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:25.079
one, they did the thing where
like all of a sudden you're back in

908
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:30.079
like a fifty sitcom basically, and
that walk animation like that stuff. That

909
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:31.679
was well done. Yeah, sure
it was well done, But that's well

910
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.320
done is like a you know,
it's a one off thing. You couldn't

911
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.400
make a whole fifty sitcom game.
Yeah, and also you could actually but

912
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.559
not you know, was that three
or four? That was four? Yeah,

913
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.599
that's right. Was at the beginning
of that. You get knocked out

914
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:45.840
when you're the President. That's right. But at a certain point, even

915
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.559
if you're doing like sort of historical
settings, it kind of turns into a

916
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.639
parody of Assassin's Creed at a certain
point, which sounds they could do some

917
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:54.239
stuff with that. Yeah, I
guess there's there's Yeah, there's definitely something

918
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:58.079
to be wrung out of that,
for sure. God, I don't know,

919
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.000
it's tough. That actually would be
pretty good, yeah, but but

920
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:04.039
not necessary, you know. And
it's one of the things where it's like,

921
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:06.320
yeah, when when they get back
to kind of mainline, make make

922
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:09.320
a big core game, it probably
needs to be more than something like that.

923
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:14.440
It would need to encompass multiple times, or it would need to yeah,

924
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:15.760
reboot it. Like I I just
don't think I don't think they can

925
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:20.559
get away with like this continuing storyline
going. You know, just like we

926
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.440
turned up the juice on the crazy
meter and now it's really well even even

927
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:27.400
like just mechanically, just in terms
of what you're doing from minute to minute.

928
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:30.639
I kind of miss like having a
reason to go jack cars and stuff,

929
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:32.440
like I'm missing driving. That's one
of the things that was so cool.

930
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:35.559
And the third was, you know, having the phone. The guys

931
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:39.159
are just delivering ilock this weird like
tron tank, right, and you're driving

932
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.519
that around like free? You ever
do that in four? Or get out

933
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:44.920
of help? Three was a great, great happy medium of like, well,

934
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:46.519
you still need to drive, and
you still need to go steal cars

935
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:49.840
from time to time, but also
we're just gonna make it so you can

936
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.679
have all your favorite cars at all. Yeah, I mean three was well.

937
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:54.000
I mean, if you break it
down, three was just better at

938
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:59.519
making you think you weren't totally invincible, even though you pretty much are sure

939
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.079
games are not difficult, you know. And then four is like you're literally

940
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.320
jumping over buildings at total points,
yeah, you know three to get like

941
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.480
a hoverbike or whatever, and that
seemed more fun than just the inventibility stuff,

942
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:12.480
I guess. So yeah, I
don't know, Like, but at

943
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:14.679
the same time, I think like
going back and just like, well we

944
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:16.519
took you know, the continuing the
next chapter in this story is we re

945
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:21.480
rooted these characters back in reality.
Like that doesn't work. I just I

946
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:23.239
don't think it does. That's that's
why I almost feel like you have to

947
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:27.599
start something new. Yeah, like
you almost you have to have to kind

948
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.519
of toss it out and hope for
the best, and maybe you kind of

949
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.880
have a wink and nod like,
oh, they decided to reset all of

950
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:37.719
reality, So you know, if
they actually just went back and retold the

951
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:44.119
story of Saints Row one, but
with their kind of newfound story chops and

952
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.119
you know, some of the gameplay
sensibilities they applied to the later games,

953
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:51.039
Like, I actually think that could
work in a weird way, as if

954
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:54.400
anyone cares about the storyline or characters
of Saints Row one or two, uh,

955
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:58.840
you know, not, none of
that shit really matters. So but

956
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:00.360
I think that there's probably something they
could get out of that. I just

957
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:04.079
don't know if they need to.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know where

958
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:06.599
they go from here. That's that's
a that's that to me seems like a

959
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:13.199
difficult road for for that developer.
And I'm sure that there's probably someone there

960
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.199
that is thought much longer about this
than I have and has come to some

961
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:20.199
kind of conclusion about it one way
or the other. Hopefully they have a

962
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:22.280
good idea for it. Hopefully they
have time to execute on it right probably,

963
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:27.480
Yes, you know, it seems
like between Saints Row and Dead Island,

964
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:30.639
like Deep Silver's just kind of been
cranked stuff out. Yeah, in

965
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.440
these popular franchise some of that,
some of that Dead Island stuff has been

966
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.760
pretty rough. Yeah. Well,
like I said, this does not This

967
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:39.880
does not make a great first impression
either. Yeah. Yeah, even four

968
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:43.840
would have been better if, like
the original plan was that Entered the Dominatrix

969
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:46.039
DLC. Well, it sounds like
it sounds like what Ford ended up becoming

970
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:50.280
was much bigger in scope than what
that thing was. Yeah. I remember

971
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:52.239
Rubin saying that, like he saw
what they were doing with Enter the Dominatrix

972
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:54.000
and he said, like, oh, this needs to be a full game.

973
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.320
But honestly, I would have liked
it more as I can get out

974
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.760
of help. But I saw the
balance sheet and said, no, I

975
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:02.440
really like four. Yes, I
really like four. Well, like,

976
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:06.920
what's the standard line now they out
Crackdown? Crackdown. It was a fun

977
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:10.639
superhero game. I don't enough there
was enough good material in it. Yeah,

978
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:15.199
I thought it was just the romance
options and the way they handle that

979
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:20.079
stuff is hilarious. The places they
go with their cameos and stuff works really

980
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:22.280
well. Like, you know,
they get a lot out of the writing,

981
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:24.920
They get a lot out of the
guests and the stuff that is kind

982
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:29.599
of on the periphery of you know, most other video games. Like they're

983
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:32.000
they're really good at making that stuff
core and meaningful. It's a real shame

984
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:36.000
that this new thing doesn't have any
of that. Yeah, Like there's not

985
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.039
a lot to it mechanically or like
the you know, they're not really bringing

986
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:42.639
their chops. Yeah, they're not
bringing what's unique to Saints Row to it.

987
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.000
Really. I mean, when it
comes down to it, Roddy Roddy

988
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.800
Piper is more interesting than Johnny Gatt. Yes, you know, yeah,

989
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:52.679
and I'll agree to that. Like
if if they you know, you can

990
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:57.840
almost there you go, there's your
reboot plan. Yeah, he's the star

991
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.280
of the game, okay, as
himself. They live the game? Sure,

992
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:05.039
why not? He's wearing the kilt, yeah, whole game. Yeah,

993
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:07.719
if they did, they live the
game, that would be the best

994
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:10.000
excuse to have like a Batman vision
mode, just put the glasses on.

995
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:14.159
Yep, it'd be awesome. Oh
man, that would really want that game?

996
00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:15.880
Yeah, man, Open World,
I think I think, yeah,

997
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:19.840
I think you could take you know, you could take the they live concepts

998
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.960
and apply it in a way that
we're like Okay, we've made the sequel

999
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.039
that they Live Too and guess what, it's a video game and actually make

1000
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:30.400
that not shitty. Yeah, it
almost seems like parodying or satirizing popular stuff

1001
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.320
like that might be the best way
for them to go. I'm not sure.

1002
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:36.920
I feel like that's what that when
they're firing on all cylinders with that

1003
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:38.800
stuff, that's when they're at their
best, you know, like the parodies

1004
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:43.119
of of things like dragging in you
know, Keith David. Like the stuff

1005
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:46.000
they did there I think was all
bur Reynolds was all pretty amazing. Yeah,

1006
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:52.039
And so not having any of that
to to kind of help drive the

1007
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:53.639
story forward probably doesn't help. But
you know, I mean, the core

1008
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:55.679
of those games are fun too,
so you know, they kind of need

1009
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:59.159
to do something there to freshen that
end of it up as well. I

1010
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.000
think if they just said, here's
insurance fraud again, but guess what,

1011
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:05.480
Polly Shore is going to talk to
you the whole time like that's not gonna

1012
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.679
work. Yeah, that's that's why
reason. Colin Quinn, Okay, there,

1013
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:12.679
I mean, that's that's why I
agree. And I still didn't played

1014
00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.079
that much of it, but why
I found what I've played at this thing

1015
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:19.000
to be so disappointing. Is that
like even if they didn't bring it on

1016
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:21.599
the story and the writing front,
you know, Like like you said,

1017
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:24.199
I think some people are gonna like
that musical stuff more than Dan. I've

1018
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:27.960
only seen a little better, to
be fair, what I have seen of

1019
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:30.480
the like storybook, like Paige churning
stuff seemed pretty good. I don't know

1020
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:32.599
if that. I don't know where
that stuff goes. I haven't seen any

1021
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:36.079
musical numbers like that. Sounds like
that could be pretty funny actually, But

1022
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:38.039
but the thing I was gonna say
was like, even if that stuff isn't

1023
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:43.480
as an effect as it usually is, like normally running around in the Saints

1024
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.480
row game, is still a lot
of fun, right, I just haven't

1025
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:49.360
found that to be satisfying in this
case. Yeah. I felt like kind

1026
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.280
of towards the end of four,
uh like it was it was where that's

1027
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:55.280
someone who got everything in four,
Like there's like at some point I was

1028
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:59.000
like why am I doing this?
Yeah? I mean and this is the

1029
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:01.360
exact same thing, you know,
except that like the cops that show up

1030
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:07.639
are demons instead of cyber yep cyber
coop type guys do like that the demon

1031
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:10.599
show up and like flame belching,
spiked whale monster. Trust that some of

1032
01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:14.639
that stuff is interesting, but again
it's like the monster truck shows up and

1033
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:16.280
you're like, oh, that's cool, but everything around it, like everything

1034
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:20.280
about the backdrop of the city is
just super boring. Yea, from what

1035
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.199
I've seen, it just looks like
something they didn't have a lot of budget

1036
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:27.840
for. You needed to put something
out. So yeah, yes, utilized.

1037
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:30.320
But that's a good name. It
is good. Yeah, Yes,

1038
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:32.039
the name is good. Yeah.
Sure, and I you know, still

1039
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:36.360
totally tells you the whole story of
the game. Yeah, I guess.

1040
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:38.880
So it goes into Hell. Yeah, but then but then he has to

1041
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.320
get out. You got to get
out of I love the set up for

1042
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.079
him going to Hell is nothing more
than Johnny Gatt wants to go to Hell

1043
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:46.320
and do something. I gotta say
the boss so he got I know.

1044
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:50.800
But I'm saying like he didn't get
sucked into Hell. He didn't look mixed

1045
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:52.480
up in any occult stuff. He's
just like I'm going to Hell and getting

1046
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:55.079
this guy back. I do like
that he shot a wage board. Yes,

1047
01:00:55.199 --> 01:01:00.320
that part that made me all right? Part was the intro is actually

1048
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:05.360
pretty good for that game. You're
right, still still plenty of excited to

1049
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:07.199
see more Saints real stuff. Just
think this thing it feels kind of like

1050
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:12.400
a misstep. Yep. Yeah.
I mean I haven't really cared much about

1051
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:15.239
any of the DLC they've done for
three or four because some of that stuff

1052
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.320
was pretty questionable. This kind of
feels like it maybe falls into that camp.

1053
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.199
Yea. So hopefully when they get
back around to making a full game,

1054
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:27.079
you know they'll do it. Yeah, Dan, yes, play anything

1055
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.719
else? I bet you did.
Poo poo Tetris. Yeah, I guess

1056
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.440
we did play more. That's a
damn video game. The Fish is still

1057
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:37.320
undefeated here. I don't remember that
being the case. Oh, the Fish

1058
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:40.159
is undefeated. We have plenty of
videos. I'm seeing a crying fish.

1059
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:45.000
Oh no, I'm sorry that was
Rory when Rory also picked the fish and

1060
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.519
lost. But on top of that, which is awesome, I've been doing

1061
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:52.079
the adventure mode, which I don't
understand at all. Uh, Doctor Dog

1062
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.840
was mad on my spaceship at one
point because I think poo poos were getting

1063
01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:59.800
on it. Hey when that happens, Yeah, I don't know. Japanese

1064
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:01.880
at, So I just hit a
a bunch. But outside of that,

1065
01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:06.920
I talked last week about the Dolphins
stuff. Yes, got that working,

1066
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:10.079
and it's a billion times better than
I would have expected. Just cranked everything

1067
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:13.760
up on Galaxy. I almost think
it looks better than three D World.

1068
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:15.519
I would have to put him,
you know, side by side, but

1069
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:17.559
as I mean, it looks gorgeous. You can. I spent hours making

1070
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:22.519
sure everything was right, like tinkering
around with graphics options and getting a towerque

1071
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:24.679
on the Xbox one controller because that
was the one thing I couldn't get working

1072
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:28.880
is the we moat emulation. I
couldn't sink it to my computer. It's

1073
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:30.599
a weird Windows eight thing where if
you go into Bluetooth settings, it says

1074
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:32.840
like, hey, enter the password
for this Bluetooth device, But hey,

1075
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:36.920
I can't do that with the we
moat. So some people found little hacks

1076
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:38.000
to do that, but I learned
that I could just do it with an

1077
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:42.960
Xbox one controller. So right stick
for the I R stuff. Yeah,

1078
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:45.079
that was the one thing I never
like. I always thought about, Yeah,

1079
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:49.159
you could map those controls to a
controller, except anything that involved pointing.

1080
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:52.719
Just right stick and you're just moving
you're just literally moving the moat cursor

1081
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.679
around the screen with the right stick. That's so weird, like a controller

1082
01:02:55.760 --> 01:03:00.559
light gun game. Yeah yeah,
and it works fine, like not super

1083
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:02.840
slow, like it seems like it's
like shooting enemies with it would be maybe

1084
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:06.679
a little bit less. You don't
have to do that that much in Galaxy.

1085
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:08.920
The one thing I'm worried about is
like kind of like the Manta ray

1086
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:14.000
surfing things. So I put like
the tilt controls onto why and be on

1087
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:15.519
the face button. So I haven't
gotten to one of those yets. We'll

1088
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:20.599
see how that works. But Galaxy
isn't bad about motion stuff. So I've

1089
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:22.800
been able to play you know,
like nine or ten Shines in and you

1090
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:24.480
know, like the shake thing that
you have to do all the time.

1091
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:30.119
I'm sorry, napped to nine or
ten what shint stars stars? Thank you?

1092
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:31.719
Nine or ten stars? Yes,
I'm sorry, I was thinking of

1093
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:37.039
that other great marogame. But I've
got the shake thing is just X,

1094
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:42.280
so to extend my jumps, I
just have to hit X instead of shake

1095
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:45.119
a dumb things. Uh yeah,
Like all those all those waggle inputs were

1096
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:49.360
just a single like effectively a single
input anyway, right, yeah, yeah,

1097
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:51.599
as well put them on a button. And it's so weird because like,

1098
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:52.840
I haven't played any you know,
I used to do a lot of

1099
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:55.559
emulation stuff with like an S and
Super Nintendo, but I never went beyond

1100
01:03:55.760 --> 01:04:00.119
the sixteen bit era with that.
So having like saved states and stuff for

1101
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:03.000
a you know, three D relatively
recent Mario game is is new to me.

1102
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:05.480
I'm trying not to use it at
all. Does it work? Like

1103
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:09.719
does everything is? Everything? Like
this is probably ancient history. But the

1104
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:13.000
last time I looked at Dolphin,
they were like there were these weird little

1105
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.760
caveats like, oh, Mario doesn't
have any pupils in the cut scenes or

1106
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:16.480
something like that. You know,
there used to be stuff like that,

1107
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:19.559
and like I guess Galaxy for a
long time, the music would cut out,

1108
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.440
but they've since fixed that, and
it is just it's basically all the

1109
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:28.599
term. The only thing that happens
is sometimes when the star bits come down,

1110
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:30.119
like the asteroids and they shatter and
a bunch of star bits come out,

1111
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:32.840
there's a little bit of slow down
just until the star bits settled down.

1112
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:36.159
But outside of that, man,
it just looks so fucking good.

1113
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:40.000
It's one of those things like you
know, like it's all finding good for

1114
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:42.440
like playing games and whatever, but
like if we look at kind of the

1115
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:46.440
emulation and what its real role is
is like, this is how we're going

1116
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:50.599
to preserve games well beyond their shelf
life. This is this is how these

1117
01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:55.960
digital only games that are hard to
and it's it's unfortunate because it's part of

1118
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.239
it. And you know, is
what we look at now it's piracy we

1119
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:00.280
will later look on is like,
well that's the only way to see this

1120
01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:06.679
really super obscure thing and preserve this
this super obscure thing. And it's it's

1121
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:13.960
awesome that so many different people are
like basically volunteering their time to like develop

1122
01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:16.000
emulators and and get this stuff along. And you know, I was like

1123
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:19.679
playing the newer stuff on it.
I think it's always like a it's it's

1124
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:26.920
always such a gray area, and
playing this stuff seems even extra gray because

1125
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:30.360
it is still so recent. Yeah, as he was talking about this stuff,

1126
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:33.239
like I bought I bought Rio Mario
Galaxy two on the WEIU because they

1127
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:35.840
have it on sale, right,
And then I was sitting here like,

1128
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:41.239
oh and technically bought it. There
is that title me to a license to

1129
01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:45.000
play it on other things like probably
not, no, no, I mean

1130
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:46.239
legally, probably not. But like
you know, when I've got the actual

1131
01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:51.920
disc of Mario Galaxy sitting and I
don't feel bad about Yeah, it's yeah,

1132
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:55.719
everyone has to draw their own lines. I mean, I'm not here

1133
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:58.880
to say like, let's be the
cops, but you know that stuff is

1134
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:02.679
always so cool, uh and and
fascinating. Actually, over the weekend,

1135
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:08.719
play a game called mud Pies,
which was on the Atari st What what

1136
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:13.320
is Mudpies? Uh? So it's
a game in which you are a guy

1137
01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:16.440
and there are a bunch of evil
clowns attempting to get you and you have

1138
01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:21.199
to fling pies at them. Sounds
familiar, Yeah, it's it's kind of

1139
01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:27.800
a clone of food Fight, which
was a class arcade game. And yeah,

1140
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.039
I don't know, I wanted to
see some Mudpies because some people in

1141
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:32.119
the comments of some videos you're putting, we're talking about mud Pies. I'm

1142
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:34.360
like, watch, you'd probably see
what this Mudpies game it's all about,

1143
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:39.159
because this is not something that i'd
heard of before. And yeah, sure

1144
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:42.840
enough, that's that's a pretty decent
food Fight clone. But you know,

1145
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.320
It's like stuff like that would be
totally lost to time. Yeahs, who

1146
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:49.079
the fuck cares about Mudpies. That's
not coming out on like XBLA. Yeah,

1147
01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:56.159
the gretty dark reboot Mudpies HD is
coming any day now. These fucking

1148
01:06:56.199 --> 01:07:01.039
clowns are they have it out for
you the You gotta watch out these fuckers.

1149
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:04.719
Yeah. So just like, you
know, being able to just kind

1150
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:09.800
of revisit all this different stuff and
and do it with relative ease is nice

1151
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:13.960
as well. But you know,
just being able to preserve uh, you

1152
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:16.920
know, all these rotting fucking e
proms and it's like different rom chips and

1153
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:19.840
stuff that are just you know,
all these CPS two boards that capcom put

1154
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:26.559
out that all have batteries on them
that eventually die and destroy the board unless

1155
01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:29.440
you very specifically know how to.
You know, if they didn't decrypt,

1156
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:32.800
they didn't brute force fucking decrypt CPS
two years ago so that they could fucking

1157
01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:36.079
put it in emulators and stuff like
that ship would be kind of be gone

1158
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:40.360
or or would be dwindling in a
way. So it's it's it's great that

1159
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:43.880
that stuff gets preserved, it's just
it does put us in this weird spot

1160
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:46.920
where like it's getting preserved, but
it's preserving pretty quickly. Yeah, you

1161
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.119
know, I don't know not not
to make this conversational high fullutin, but

1162
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:53.440
if you look at like the early
days of film, like a ton of

1163
01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:56.400
that stuff disappeared, you know,
like there are tons of pieces of film

1164
01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:59.280
that are just lost of time now, right, And I feel like,

1165
01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:02.760
you know, like the the number
of games we lose to time. If

1166
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:05.599
you look at what's available now and
being emulated now and stuff like that,

1167
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:11.119
like it's a it's a relatively small
percentage of the overall whole, and it's

1168
01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:13.360
a lot of stuff that's like where
you know, it's if it's going to

1169
01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:16.199
be an online only game that requires
someone to be running a service, you

1170
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:21.159
know, that gets difficult but not
impossible. You have cases where you have

1171
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:27.840
like the BS stuff, the satellite
stuff in Japan, the stell you the

1172
01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:31.119
subtel view stuff where like it was
SYNCD up with like certain times of the

1173
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:36.359
day to broadcas they were broadcasting the
program. So you'd be playing the legend

1174
01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:41.039
of Zelda and the music would be
coming in off the satellite and there would

1175
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:43.680
be audio coming in off there that
tied into the story of the game,

1176
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:47.159
and now they're people out there trying
to reconstruct that as best they can in

1177
01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:51.439
some different ways, which sounds gargantuan
but amazing. Like it'd be great to

1178
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:54.920
be able to see that stuff.
I remember, you know, like you

1179
01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:58.000
see all those magazines back then and
you look at like, you know,

1180
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:00.680
when they were talking about like,
oh, this sness is a satellite system,

1181
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:01.479
maybe it'll come to the US,
you know, like they got their

1182
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:03.479
own Legends of Zelda game. What
the fuck is that about? Like I

1183
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:08.039
wanted to see that shit, So
it'd be nice to be able to see

1184
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:10.319
that ship. Do you ever actually
played that thing? I've done that the

1185
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:12.840
bs Zelda y? Yeah, I
played. Is it based on the link

1186
01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.079
to the past? Is it the
same? I think it was more like

1187
01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:18.439
the original one, like the original
game, but with updated sprites. I

1188
01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:20.840
think that the visuals are like linked
to the past. But I think it's

1189
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:24.479
more like the original game. It's
been like ten years since I played it,

1190
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:26.680
but yeah, yeah, and and
even then, like what you were

1191
01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:30.159
able to play ten years ago was
just a fraction of it because like that

1192
01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:31.359
game, like like I said,
it had the time of the day,

1193
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:35.399
you know, stuff kind of with
the satellite broadcast all those other sync up

1194
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:39.920
stuff, So like what they hacked
together to let people play it on some

1195
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:44.199
emulator or something is not the same
way it's supposed to be. So as

1196
01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:45.760
they get closer, like I should
check in on that and see if there

1197
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.399
are people still making progress on that, because I haven't looked in a while.

1198
01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:53.600
But uh, yeah, that that
stuff's always really impressive to me,

1199
01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:58.039
just to be able to have access
to to some of that stuff years and

1200
01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:00.960
years and years after the fact.
Yeah, I just I just became aware

1201
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.800
of MESS over the last week,
which people don't know is basically a console

1202
01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:08.000
equivalent of MAME, right, basically, Like it's basically just like an attempt

1203
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:12.439
to collect emulation cores for like every
console you can think of into one thing.

1204
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:15.840
Yeah, consoles and computers and stuff
like that. Yeah, And it's

1205
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.039
like it's crazy to think if you
I mean, obviously you're getting into shady

1206
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:23.199
territory, but if you're to if
you're to go out and collect ROM sets,

1207
01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:26.560
like full ROM sets of every one
of the consoles represented in that thing,

1208
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.000
like you've basically got a an entire
like museum to the history of video

1209
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:31.920
games. Like just sitting right there. Yeah, I mean, well,

1210
01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:34.119
you know, and they've got the
Apple too, you know that. I

1211
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:39.159
mean, some of these these computers
are are better emulated elsewhere outside of MESS,

1212
01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:42.319
Like Mess is not perfect. I
don't know that MESS actually emulates the

1213
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:45.479
RST at all, right now,
there are separate emulators that do. But

1214
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:49.520
you know, uh yeah, there's
a ton of stuff you can see that

1215
01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:53.720
way. You know, the X
sixty eight thousand being able to like look

1216
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:57.359
at like or you know, just
like even just be able to see you

1217
01:10:57.439 --> 01:11:00.720
know, MSX metal gear, which
I guess they did eventually sell. And

1218
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:02.119
that's that's the kind of the other
catch with this stuff is a lot of

1219
01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:05.760
times companies raid their own back catalog
and resell that stuff, and then it

1220
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:10.399
makes the emulation aspect of it feel
even a little more gray a little at

1221
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:13.560
that point, it's not even gray, you know, like there's nothing about

1222
01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:17.680
it that that's gray there. But
it's great to know that this stuff is

1223
01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:21.000
getting preserved. I think that's the
thing. When you know, people talk

1224
01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:26.199
about, oh, aren't you worried
about modern digital games and all this stuff

1225
01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:29.520
getting you know, going away,
It's like I'm kind of confident that people

1226
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:32.239
will figure it out someday and at
a certain point, just like with you

1227
01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:35.000
know, like long lost film being
uncovered, Like at a certain point,

1228
01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:40.479
people care less about the ownership rights
and that aspect of it. Yeah,

1229
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.640
as time sure, and more than
just the fact that it exists still,

1230
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:45.399
you know, like they're just happy
that somebody managed to preserve it, right.

1231
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:47.560
Yeah, when we get to a
point where there are no Xbox three

1232
01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:50.319
sixties left, someone will have figured
that ship out, right, right,

1233
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:57.960
even though like the original Xbox has
not been emulated well at this point.

1234
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:01.359
And I guess someone recently got a
PS game running super slow, but it's

1235
01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:05.319
like kind of first first results that
are not just a homebrew app or something

1236
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:10.279
like that. So like that stuff. Yeah, it's always crazy how aggressive

1237
01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:13.039
they are with that stuff. It's
like, oh, it's only one generation

1238
01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:15.399
removed from the current one, soil, let's get going on. Well,

1239
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:17.479
you know, different teams have different
levels of restraint, like Mayme used to

1240
01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:19.239
have. I mean, you know, keep mind, the main project's been

1241
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:21.840
around for a long time, Like
they were still Arcade games coming out,

1242
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:26.640
and there were still Mame, so
you would have a situation where like King

1243
01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:31.119
of Fighters two thousand was coming out
and the Neo Geo was incredibly well emulated.

1244
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:34.239
So yeah, the situation where like
you know it like you could,

1245
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:38.640
since mame is open source, people
would go out there and compile their own

1246
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:42.600
versions that enabled these drivers for these
recent games. So the main team would

1247
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:44.399
have to say, like, Okay, in the build that we distribute,

1248
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:46.880
we are not going to include any
game that is less than a year old,

1249
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.520
which is you know, everyone has
draw their ownline, you know,

1250
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:54.079
and that was the one that they
drew, but you would always you know.

1251
01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:58.039
It was actually probably like from the
outside looking in, like the most

1252
01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:02.520
tumultuous time for mayme because there was
so much interest surrounding it purely from people

1253
01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:06.079
that wanted to play new arcade games. And by and large, it seemed

1254
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:09.439
like the people that we're working on
main were like, fuck you, I'm

1255
01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:12.359
trying to get RoadBlasters to run,
right, I don't give a shit about

1256
01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:15.239
your fucking pirate bullshit. Stop fucking
using our thing. Go to the arcade.

1257
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:18.600
Yeah, basically, and and there
was a lot of stuff like that

1258
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:21.479
around CPS two games when that was
you know, like the fighting games and

1259
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:29.520
stuff like that definitely attracted a very
different audience. Pokemon also, you know,

1260
01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:31.359
there's there's a lot of you can
get a lot of viruses by type

1261
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:36.039
and free Pokemon PC or whatever into
a search engine these days. I'm sure

1262
01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:39.399
I don't know where that Pokemon has
been. No, you do not.

1263
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:45.199
It is too shiny. Yeah,
I don't know, but that that stuff's

1264
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:48.840
super interesting to me, like the
all the Dolphin stuff, Like like I

1265
01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:54.560
personally don't really care enough to run
that sort of stuff. It's too it's

1266
01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:57.199
two reason, like it's just I'm
not sure, you know, making me

1267
01:13:57.319 --> 01:13:59.479
want to see it though, it
makes me want to do a Yeah,

1268
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:01.359
you see it, you see it
in motion, like you see the art

1269
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:04.119
and stuff like it was it was
seeing that before the EU was out.

1270
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:08.600
I think it was the first thing
of just like fuck man, if Nintendo

1271
01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:11.920
had a console that would spit out
this high resolution that would be amazing.

1272
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:15.439
So like you know, there was
like a precursor to seeing like three D

1273
01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:17.600
world and stuff like that. And
I'm like, yep, sure enough.

1274
01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:20.520
This art style works really well when
it's really sharp. Oh yeah, like

1275
01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:24.600
the Mario Kart eight replays and stuff. Yeah, those characters, the worlds

1276
01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:27.520
are awesome. Yeah, did you
try any other games on there besides Mario

1277
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:30.319
Galaxy. No, I'm just working
on that. After that, I'll probably

1278
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:33.079
maybe try Twilight Princess. I've always
wanted to do the GameCube version, and

1279
01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:36.000
then that would be way easier to
map to an Xbox controller obviously. Yeah,

1280
01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:39.279
although, like I said, you
don't get the native wide screen.

1281
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:41.920
Yeah there, Yeah, you know, I'm fine with that as long as

1282
01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:45.039
it's just super high res or whatever. That's weird to me though, because

1283
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:47.600
like wind Waker, you could hold
in Bee. I don't know. I

1284
01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:49.880
don't know if it was one of
those things where it's like that'll be one

1285
01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:54.039
more thing that only the WE version
has, yeah, I guess, or

1286
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:57.560
if they I think they only shipped, like they ship a pretty small number.

1287
01:14:57.640 --> 01:14:59.920
It was it was a limited number, right, Yeah, they sell

1288
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:01.319
for a lot still, remember,
Yeah, I want to say they only

1289
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:04.560
shifted a few thousand copies of that
because it was also you know, it

1290
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:08.239
was also the launch game for the
Wei. I guess that's a gray area

1291
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:10.640
too, because like I own it
on WE, but I want to play

1292
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:13.359
the game game. But I mean, what is there in that game that

1293
01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:16.239
needs the WE remote and the sword? Right? But that's just a button,

1294
01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:20.479
Like just like you're doing with Mario, But like, is there anything

1295
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:28.039
that's like the heavier the whole world
is flipped one because they made him left

1296
01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:30.239
handed right or you know, he's
right handed in the WE version, but

1297
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:33.199
he's traditionally left handed right. That's
what it is. Yeah, it's one

1298
01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:36.640
of those things that's huge Zelda fans
like it's real serious to them, and

1299
01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:42.079
it's like it's always yeah, I
just I don't give a shit what hand

1300
01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:45.680
link holds the sword and play the
game same. But yeah, I want

1301
01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:47.239
to say that you could like aim
the bow and hook shot and things like

1302
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:49.399
that with the I R. You
should look into it. It might still

1303
01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:54.000
be possible on a regular controller,
Okay, Yeah, I mean if it's

1304
01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:59.760
sixteen by nine that would obviously be
preferable. Interesting can of worms you've opened.

1305
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:02.880
Yeah, but man, it looks
tweeted. That's the thing because I've

1306
01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:06.000
played very little Galaxy and No Galaxy
too, so it's like, if I

1307
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:09.439
were going to play them, I
might as well play them in the ideal

1308
01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:15.119
format, right, and it's real
good m m. Yeah, Drew h

1309
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:18.680
Hello, Hi, standing stoically at
the end of the table. Yes,

1310
01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:26.399
stone face, it's been going on, uh in life? Well, last

1311
01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:32.640
week we finally released some of that
b role. Yeah, we do.

1312
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:36.600
We had it and we gave it
two premium members. Yeah, all the

1313
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:40.960
stuff that didn't make it into the
final cuts of our Games of the Years.

1314
01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:44.880
Yeah, what is there? There's
uh, there's extended wrestling tryouts.

1315
01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:49.600
There's extended Troy Baker. Yeah,
so extended Jeff. I basically took everything

1316
01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:58.159
that the projects that had leftover footage, like for example, mine does not.

1317
01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:02.800
Yeah, Jason's like everything pretty much
that you see there. Those are

1318
01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:05.840
tight shoots. Yeah, same with
Brads. There's there's some guinea pig by

1319
01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:10.439
roll, but that would just be
I mean, hey, some people might

1320
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:15.319
not argue, yeah, extended guinea
pig footage. Yeah, but yeah,

1321
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:23.880
Jeff's had I mean Jeff's is basically
I kept the camera rolling on Jeff for

1322
01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:27.479
like twenty minutes and that was the
shoot. So I just kept that in

1323
01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:33.039
there. But Dan's was a little
more complex to cut. But yeah,

1324
01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:36.239
those are up now. See me
take a lot of bumps. Yep,

1325
01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:42.760
see Dan take a lot of hits. And our our extended version of our

1326
01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:45.319
Troy Baker segment. It's a talented
guy. Is that all the footage?

1327
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:48.039
Is that everything he recorded. Yes, it's all out there now. Yeah,

1328
01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:50.680
that's exciting to me. Yeah,
I wanted to see all of that.

1329
01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:53.880
That was so easy. We just
went in, we sat down,

1330
01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:57.000
no script or anything, and then
just like what three minutes of footage or

1331
01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.119
whatever. We probably didn't have to
cut anything, you know, with all

1332
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:01.000
of the stuff that you put in
with b roll. Oh it's interesting.

1333
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:05.479
Actually, the part that made it
into our Game of the Year video was

1334
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:13.079
actually the end of your guys's riff
session. But it's the only part I

1335
01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:17.720
could find that like was really nicely
encapsulated in like a nice couple of minutes.

1336
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:21.199
It's just like we shot like it's
like seven or eight all of you

1337
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:24.520
guys, yeah, sitting there,
and we didn't want to put all of

1338
01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:27.920
it in there because we wanted to
keep everything all the seconds about the same

1339
01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:30.479
length. So we just put in
a couple of minutes of Troy Bakers saying

1340
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:33.800
lick my asshole, asshole over and
over again, which I'm glad, but

1341
01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:38.239
I kept your intro. So actually
when it's it starts on you in the

1342
01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:44.079
beginning, and then I cut in
the middle of a pan to the later

1343
01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:48.600
half of that riff session. So
tricky cut. Good work, thank you

1344
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:54.760
the magic, and then with mine
like the you we recorded the fake phone

1345
01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:58.520
calls to like Kessler, those didn't
make the final cut, right. Yeah.

1346
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:01.960
Still sad that Kessler in a suit
didn't happen for this thing. Yeah.

1347
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:04.359
Yeah, that was one of the
early ideas, and I was like,

1348
01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:10.159
let's not rely on too many external
people and external schedules. We don't

1349
01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:14.359
have a lot of time to get
this stuff done. Yeah. I liked

1350
01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:18.119
that we got to include all of
your thoughts about each game, so that

1351
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:23.640
if people really wanted to flesh out
Bike two. Yeah. I mean,

1352
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.840
in terms out the playable version of
Bike two that's out there is missing extreme

1353
01:19:26.960 --> 01:19:30.119
nuances about the game Bike two.
Yeah. I saw the guy going,

1354
01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:32.079
wait a minute, you're supposed to
be able to climb ladders. I gotta

1355
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:35.079
go back and go this I don't
think gets updated. Yeah, yeah,

1356
01:19:35.319 --> 01:19:40.399
and I look forward to Bike two
point two. Yeah. But Vinnie's got

1357
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:45.119
some more coming. I don't know
which segments exactly he has a footage from

1358
01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:51.560
because his went up his his what
the stuff from Vinnie's shoot went up?

1359
01:19:51.640 --> 01:19:55.760
Oh really yeah that's on the side
right now. Yeah, that went up

1360
01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:58.920
this morning. That's all his wilderness
stuff. Okay, great, I have

1361
01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:02.239
not checked the website. Yeah,
evidently, but yeah, what else,

1362
01:20:02.479 --> 01:20:09.880
Jeff, you and I played some
Elite Dangerous we did. Yeah, it's

1363
01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:13.359
funny doing that quick look. I
could not tell how long it was gone

1364
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:16.479
because I was just talking about everything. I couldst think yeah, yeah,

1365
01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:21.319
and then it was like an hour
went by. But I think that game

1366
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:25.960
is cool. It looks really great. I thought about buying it. Then

1367
01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:29.560
it's sixty bucks and then they're selling
like colors for ships if you want to

1368
01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:35.039
pay another seventeen or something like,
Yeah, that's crazy. But I just

1369
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:39.720
I'm I don't know. I wish
I knew how well it controld with like

1370
01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:44.520
a regular like an Xbox controller.
I've not tried to keyboard and seen some

1371
01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:48.000
people say the mouse and keyboards fine
and and all that, but I just

1372
01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:51.760
don't know. If I want to
get two into it, and I'm not

1373
01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:56.640
going to buy flightstick, I'm not
crazy. Come on, Nope, No,

1374
01:20:56.800 --> 01:21:01.840
that's that's come on, do not
nope, OTAs, Nope, OTAs.

1375
01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:08.159
There's some decent sticks out there.
Basically, I think if you want

1376
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:11.439
to get a stick, you definitely
want to look for one with a throttle

1377
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:15.119
that like you can you can get
a stick that doesn't necessarily have it doesn't

1378
01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:17.880
have to be like an external throttle, like a separate thing. There are

1379
01:21:18.039 --> 01:21:20.920
sticks with just on the base of
it, you'll see like a t bar

1380
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:25.039
or something. What are you looking
at if you want to get in at

1381
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:29.039
the base level of like flight sticks
set up? Like what do you think

1382
01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:31.720
is the budget for the like the
minimum level of equipment that'll kind of let

1383
01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:36.680
you enjoy the feel of like actually
flying the ship. Let's see, there

1384
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:40.359
are a couple out there that are
like under hunter Bucks. I think there's

1385
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:46.479
a Madcats one called like the Fly
five, which is like fifty bucks,

1386
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:53.399
and then there's I think a Logitech
one called the Extreme three D like thirty

1387
01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:57.079
bucks, and both of those have
throttles. I might write like a tumbler

1388
01:21:57.119 --> 01:22:02.960
post or something about joysticks and stuff, but I think though before I would

1389
01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:08.039
get a joystick, I think I
would get track. I R yeah,

1390
01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:15.199
because I just I find moving like
having the having your head move independently from

1391
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:18.960
a control device like freeze up one
like a bunch of buttons, and two

1392
01:22:19.119 --> 01:22:23.720
like you don't have to be controlling
that right right, Like if you know,

1393
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:26.359
if you're playing a flight sim or
something and like a guy zips by

1394
01:22:26.399 --> 01:22:28.760
you, you don't want to have
to take your thumb off the stick to

1395
01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:33.880
like look look, yeah interesting.
So I yeah, well maybe with that,

1396
01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:41.800
just I'll just wait until Yeah comes
along for reels, and then maybe

1397
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:44.800
by that time they'll have put a
lot more into Elite because it's still it

1398
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:48.000
also did seem kind of thin.
Yeah, it almost feels like we're reaching

1399
01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:53.399
or approaching some kind of like inflection
point where like all these space sims are

1400
01:22:53.439 --> 01:22:57.439
happening and coming together, yeah,
and getting better, and all the VR

1401
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:00.279
headsets are are coming to fruition.
You know. It's like, yeah,

1402
01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:03.720
like we're approaching this glorious new future
of space simulation, right or something.

1403
01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:10.399
Yes, just twenty thousand dollars.
Yes, the elephant in the room that

1404
01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:14.159
I wasn't going to bring up,
but yes, that also exists. Look

1405
01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:16.279
back into that thing. I hope. So yeah, I think we've had

1406
01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:18.720
this conversation before, but I certainly
hope. So, Hey, if you

1407
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:23.079
want to play a game right now, Really Dangerous is out? Okay?

1408
01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:25.359
People seem to really like it.
Yeah, is there a bunch of new

1409
01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:28.119
stuff coming to it because I was
really surprised to hear you can't like get

1410
01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:30.920
out of your ship on a planet. You cannot, But that is the

1411
01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:36.720
kind of thing that they say is
coming. I think first is like I

1412
01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:41.359
don't know about first, but like
high on the priority list is being able

1413
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:45.479
to get out of your ship in
the station and like walk around. There

1414
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:48.439
have been some games that have done
that. I think Evcron Mercenary did that

1415
01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:54.960
do that. I can't remember,
or maybe the X series. Yeah,

1416
01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:57.880
people people still kind of hold a
X three is kind of like where it's

1417
01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:00.239
at right now. Yeah, those
games, but yeah, oh they're so

1418
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:05.039
complicated. Elite is at least you
get able, You're able to like just

1419
01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:11.600
jump in and play. But yeah, I think I like, I totally

1420
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.199
understand the criticism of oh, it's
one of those games you have to make

1421
01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:21.439
your own fun, but I would
phrase it like you are in a system,

1422
01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:28.800
a game system that you set your
own goals in. Uh, in

1423
01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:31.119
the system itself, I think it
is fun. Yeah. So like here's

1424
01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:33.359
the world, there's a bunch of
systems running at their own pace. Do

1425
01:24:33.479 --> 01:24:36.159
what you want, yeah, find
a way to fit in. Yeah,

1426
01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:40.279
yeah, I mean that's kind of
what I'm excited expecting out of a Man

1427
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:44.359
Sky at this point, which seems
like it's off putting to a lot of

1428
01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:46.079
people, but like that's kind of
what those types of games are, right

1429
01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:48.840
right, Like that game looks like
it's gonna make it simpler to move around

1430
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:53.600
in the world and probably like uprade
your ship and pilot it and stuff like

1431
01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:57.600
that. But I would imagine that
the open endedness is still. Yeah,

1432
01:24:57.680 --> 01:24:59.720
it's like I want to build a
house, right, chop down all these

1433
01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:01.479
tree where I want to dig to
the center of the or dig to lava

1434
01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:04.079
or whatever, or like why are
you doing it? It's like nobody told

1435
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:06.199
you to do it. It's just
like I just felt like it, right,

1436
01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:10.439
Yeah, it's like that I was
presented with this scene in front of

1437
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.039
me, and that's what That's what
occurred to me. Ye, dig down.

1438
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:17.279
But over the weekend, I was
just up in Tahoe where there's no

1439
01:25:17.399 --> 01:25:23.640
snow mm hmm, So no skiing
happened. But I did play some trivial

1440
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:28.479
pursuit from like nineteen seventy nine sounds
fun where every answer is Robert Frost,

1441
01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:34.520
WC. Fields or credit Garbo m
and a lot of the answers are vaguely

1442
01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:39.119
racist. So great, that's fun. Sounds about right. I have a

1443
01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:44.720
really old copy of the Young Players
edition of Trivial Suit that I bet would

1444
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:51.520
be completely impenetrable by the people under
a certain age. Yeah, that's cool.

1445
01:25:53.479 --> 01:25:58.159
Put some disc golf as well.
When there's no snow, you gotta

1446
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:00.520
make it. You gotta make it
happen. I guess I got. You

1447
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:02.880
gotta make your own rules this golf. You know, there's no objectives there,

1448
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:09.000
there's no mission design, just holes
that are actually weird chain length fence

1449
01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:13.720
pieces thrown together in some kind of
basket. So it's a it's a goal.

1450
01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:16.319
It's a bowl on a pole in
a hole, and that's a goal.

1451
01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:21.159
WHOA damn, that's heavy moving on. Holy crap, it's like fancy

1452
01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:27.479
horseshoes. Also that way more walking
drinking. I didn't really play a lot

1453
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:30.319
of new games that haven't already been
discussed here. Uh, but I did

1454
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:33.359
watch a documentary called sound City that
you should watch, Dan, What is

1455
01:26:33.479 --> 01:26:38.479
Yesterday? It's about sound City,
the famous recording studio in Los Angeles,

1456
01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:43.279
OH, where like hundreds of classic
albums were cut over the years. Rock

1457
01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:47.760
from the seventies up through like a
few years ago when they like everything you

1458
01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:50.840
can think of. Well, I
mean, maybe not them, but yeah,

1459
01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:58.960
but Dylan Bad Company, Imagine is
pretty good. Imagine Triumph record,

1460
01:26:59.039 --> 01:27:01.800
that well known rock band from the
seventies through like the turn of the century.

1461
01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:05.880
Their footage seems like, yes,
yeah, it seems like chances are

1462
01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:11.199
good. That is this the studio
where like Dave Groll got the big board

1463
01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:15.159
from Sound City Big Girl directed this
documentary and also got the got the mixing

1464
01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:17.800
board. Is it tight end of
that Sonic Highways thing he's doing. Maybe

1465
01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:21.840
Sonic Highways is I'm just going to
like famous recording things across the country and

1466
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:26.600
just talking about their history. And
then I bet, I bet that you

1467
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:29.520
go out of this. Yeah,
okay, that makes sense. But yeah,

1468
01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:32.880
he there's like time lapse footage of
them stripping that board down and moving

1469
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:39.199
it out of there. It hadn't
moved in forty years. Hu Apparently the

1470
01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:41.960
board costs twice as much as an
average house when they bought it in the

1471
01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:45.199
seventies. Yeah, I bet it's
crazy shit, Yes, it's good.

1472
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:46.880
You would enjoy it. He seems
like a good guy to talk about music

1473
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:49.800
with, Like I'm not a food
fighters guy, but that dude seems to

1474
01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:53.840
really like his class. Get it
gets a little deep into the like Nirvana

1475
01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:59.640
mythologizing part, like for part of
this uh, although apparently Kurt was on

1476
01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:01.199
it was just like it was nothing
like, nothing like that at all.

1477
01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:03.439
It's more just like, oh this
is I wouldn't be here if it weren't

1478
01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:08.760
for this board, which I guess
is sort of true. They record never

1479
01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:11.079
mind there. Yeah, it's a
dumb that I considered Nirvana like one of

1480
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:14.079
the modern bands I'm into, Like, that's one of them. That's about

1481
01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:15.840
as far forward in rock history as
I'll go. It's got bad news for

1482
01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:19.800
you. I don't think the kid
think there's new more Nirvana material coming anytime

1483
01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:24.680
soon. The other democracy, the
other, the other bad fairness, all

1484
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:28.199
right, yeah, you never know, I guess boy. The other bad

1485
01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:32.039
news for you is that Nirvana now
occupies the space that classic rock like Zeppelin

1486
01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:35.119
did when we were in high school. But in terms of the gulf of

1487
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:39.039
time since it came out, they're
still like, you know, high school

1488
01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:42.359
kids that listen to Zepplin like they
you know, aged well, sure,

1489
01:28:42.520 --> 01:28:45.039
but but that's not so old,
I know. So we're weak when they

1490
01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:51.079
made good music. It's time for
the news, okay, yeah, yeah,

1491
01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:55.439
stoked to hear some headlines? Sure, some things that happened in the

1492
01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:59.079
world whenever, whenever they're introducing the
news, that's are you stoked to hear?

1493
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:03.199
Some headlines were with the news.
Ye, Scott Williams, Scott Pelley

1494
01:29:03.239 --> 01:29:10.720
every night on the news. Motherfucker's
Uh. Nintendo had one of their famous

1495
01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:15.039
directs, yes since this time last
week. Uh, And it was all

1496
01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:18.560
three DS oriented for the most part, except for a couple of things.

1497
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:23.520
New three DS. I should say, Oh man, the new three DS.

1498
01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:28.319
It's coming out. Yes it is, Yes in the North America on

1499
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:32.800
February thirteenth. Yes, large size
only XL or get the fuck out.

1500
01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:36.159
That's exactly what they said. That's
what you wanta said, those exact words.

1501
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:42.199
Yeah, both middle fingers up might
as well be what the message was.

1502
01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.720
Two hundreds, here's one hundred dollars. Boom middle finger. Here's two

1503
01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:48.760
hundred dollars boom double middle Yeah.
Like some some ads leaked out the day

1504
01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:53.359
before, and some people start speculating
when there was no no sign of the

1505
01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:57.199
smaller version on the ads that it
wasn't coming out here and then sure enough,

1506
01:29:58.279 --> 01:30:00.560
Yeah, you go big or go
home on this one. That's right.

1507
01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:04.119
I imagine that that is probably driven
by sales figures, and it must

1508
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:10.920
be the Xcel. Well out,
Jeff, we like it big over here

1509
01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:15.199
is in America, that's right.
Give me my I don't know if you've

1510
01:30:15.199 --> 01:30:17.520
ever tried to order an L size
drink in Tokyo, but let me tell

1511
01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:21.439
you it's not large. Brad,
I think you're one of the only people

1512
01:30:21.520 --> 01:30:24.880
that does not prefer the Xcel that
I've talked to. I mean, give

1513
01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:27.640
me my hunger Man three DS.
Yeah, I want a three DS that

1514
01:30:27.720 --> 01:30:31.479
eats like a meal. Fucking fork
up in this three DS. Yes,

1515
01:30:31.640 --> 01:30:34.439
I was. I am one of
the many people who were disappointed by this

1516
01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:39.279
news. The only person that I
know of that's crazy. Actually, that's

1517
01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:42.319
not true. There are at least
one to two other people in this office

1518
01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:46.239
that were similarly our whack job.
Well I've gotten since this announcement, I've

1519
01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:49.079
had the chance to handle both versions
of the new three DS. Yes,

1520
01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:53.640
and I stand by my preference,
okay, because you know, the screen

1521
01:30:53.720 --> 01:30:57.239
did get bigger on that smaller model
Proportional to the unit. It's like half

1522
01:30:57.319 --> 01:31:01.119
bigger half again bigger I think something
like fifty percent bigger than the screen on

1523
01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:03.680
the regular three DS you imported or
is it regional? No, that's the

1524
01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:06.840
problem. That's why everybody's so mad. You can't uh because and the other

1525
01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:12.000
thing is that the smaller version is
coming out in every other territory a Europe.

1526
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:15.039
It already came out in Australia,
New Zealand obviously came out in Japan.

1527
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:17.560
Every other territory is getting both versions, just not North America. And

1528
01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:21.520
you can't import it because the region. Luck, so I can understand the

1529
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:26.479
uh. Yeah, they might just
you know, put their foot forward here

1530
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:29.479
and then have a limited right.
It's very it is very possible that their

1531
01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:32.199
supply constrained and make enough for blah
blah blah. It might come out in

1532
01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:35.159
six months or a year. But
then again, how far are we from

1533
01:31:35.279 --> 01:31:39.560
a new Nitzino handheld proper? I
don't know. I don't want to.

1534
01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:41.479
I just I don't want to do
the math on any of this stuff.

1535
01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:45.439
It's been it's been four years since
three D s even came out in America,

1536
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:47.680
right, and obviously came out in
Japan first, or did it?

1537
01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:51.239
Or was that the was that the
weird case where it actually launched here first?

1538
01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:54.600
I think that might have been here
first. Okay, so four years

1539
01:31:54.640 --> 01:32:00.159
period then was what we're at on
this thing. And traditionally, like I

1540
01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:02.439
think the three D or the regular
DS went like seven which was crazy.

1541
01:32:02.600 --> 01:32:06.239
But yeah, it still feels like
we're sort of getting there, I guess.

1542
01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:09.960
So I don't know. So we
have a new three DS here in

1543
01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:15.239
hand. I've performed system transfers of
putting micro SD cards in them and all

1544
01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:17.199
the other ship mine took eight hours. Yeah, I might talk about four

1545
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:21.119
What are you guys doing transferring over
the Wi Fi if we guess? I

1546
01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:24.520
tried to do the SD thing.
I didn't realize you had to like to

1547
01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:28.560
go into the system transfer thing and
then select transfer via SD card or whatever.

1548
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:31.319
Yeah, you have to do the
transfer before you can copy the files.

1549
01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:34.079
Well, see, I copied the
folder to my desktop just fine,

1550
01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:38.279
and then when I dragged it onto
the new three DS, it didn't work

1551
01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:42.359
at all. So it was after
the transfer. This is how I tried

1552
01:32:42.399 --> 01:32:44.680
to do that. So I saw, I did the transfer and whatever,

1553
01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:48.159
like it took way longer than it
should considering it was just wirelessly transmitting you

1554
01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:51.159
know, four gigs of data.
However much it was six, I don't

1555
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:54.479
know, well under four because it
fits on the four gig card that came

1556
01:32:54.520 --> 01:33:00.159
with the new three DS, and
that took way too long. And then

1557
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:02.279
I bought a thirty two gig mic
rest, which is I guess the maximum

1558
01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:06.880
that will allow without doing some other
weird shit, and then was able to

1559
01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:12.720
just drag the contents of the old
card onto the new card on my Mac.

1560
01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:16.159
Actually, even and and through that
engines was just fun. And then

1561
01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:20.079
I had to go redownload the stuff
I to delete in order to patch Smash

1562
01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:28.520
Brothers, and I don't know whatever
I go on. I mean some amount

1563
01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:32.000
of disbelief that the right stick on
that thing is as shitty as it is.

1564
01:33:32.279 --> 01:33:36.880
Really that it is just like check
it out, you know those yeah,

1565
01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:40.880
those it is. It is absolutely
a think pad nub Ye're right about.

1566
01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:43.720
And the best thing about the think
pad nub is that it will save

1567
01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:45.359
you when you're in a tough spot
and you're like, fuck, I don't

1568
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.479
have a real mouse here. I
just need to do something quick on this

1569
01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:53.000
machine. I can do mouse things
because it's just this built in little nib.

1570
01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:59.119
But it is like it is the
bare minimum when it comes to a

1571
01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:01.520
mouse on these sorts of machines,
Like the first thing you do is go,

1572
01:34:01.520 --> 01:34:05.079
why I need a fucking mouse?
Fuck this? And so for that

1573
01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:10.319
to be like the right stick equivalent
on this thing, like what the fuck?

1574
01:34:10.399 --> 01:34:14.479
So we played a game called Irona
Yes, that is a Gears of

1575
01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:19.079
War style third person cover shooter,
Yes, and using that nub to look

1576
01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:24.159
around. I found to be uncomfortable, not a viable in that game,

1577
01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:26.960
in particular because because you are aiming
a gun with that thing, yeah,

1578
01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:29.800
and shooting. I had to turn
the sensitivity on the seat. It's called

1579
01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:31.359
the sea stick, right, yeah, it is. In that particular game

1580
01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:33.880
I had to turn that we played
at their event last week. I had

1581
01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:39.760
to turn the sensitivity almost all the
way down to be able to comfortably aim

1582
01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:43.840
and shoot at things because it's it's
super sensitive, just like those Yeah,

1583
01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:45.199
I think bad nubs, you know, like you barely put any pressure on

1584
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:48.920
it, and it's taking input.
So if you treat it like a proper

1585
01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:53.439
analog stick and jam it all the
way in the direction you want to go,

1586
01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:57.520
like, they're just gonna stilty,
and I necessarily have trouble aiming with

1587
01:34:57.600 --> 01:35:00.760
it. I just find it completely
uncomfortable to use. I don't know,

1588
01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:04.199
for like, when I played MAJORA
and Zeno Blade there uh for something to

1589
01:35:04.279 --> 01:35:06.960
like just camera control, it seemed
a lot more useful. And that's gonna

1590
01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:10.319
be ninety percent of the steth This
is the three DS. It's not you

1591
01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:13.119
know, well, I mean Call
of Duty even mind there's gonna be twelve

1592
01:35:13.159 --> 01:35:15.920
games that support any of this ship
anyway. Yeah, yeah, you know,

1593
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:17.479
like when by the time they're done, you're gonna be like, oh

1594
01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:21.840
right, I forgot, Like the
only I guess there actually have been where

1595
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:25.560
I was going to say the only
time they've successfully iterated was the Game Boy

1596
01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:30.039
Color. But well, how many
DSi exclusives were there, like accounts,

1597
01:35:30.199 --> 01:35:34.560
account like the store aspect of the
DSIE Like, I think there are already

1598
01:35:34.640 --> 01:35:40.600
more new three DS only games announced
than there ever were DSi only games period.

1599
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:44.439
No, because there's one DSi or
one new three DS game announced,

1600
01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:47.479
it's only z Yeah, there are
ones that will utilize the stick and everything

1601
01:35:47.720 --> 01:35:51.840
like you can play everything else is
the codenames team is not only on three

1602
01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:57.920
D. It's even Ironfall was is
will use the touch screen for aiming.

1603
01:35:58.279 --> 01:36:01.039
Okay, that's a fallback. So
that's the thing is, like, you

1604
01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:03.640
know, how many games are gonna, you know, a take advantage of

1605
01:36:03.720 --> 01:36:08.439
any aspect of the new three DS, and how many games will then require

1606
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:11.399
the new three DS? Like I
feel like we're looking at a supremely low

1607
01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:15.199
number, right, I'm loving it
as I played through MAJORA, Like,

1608
01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:17.960
just having that level of camera control
is awesome, especially considering it's nice to

1609
01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:21.079
have almost necessary. Yeah, you
know, Jeffy not like it because of

1610
01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:25.039
the placement or just using that thing. I think the placement's a little weird.

1611
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:26.760
I think, you know, with
the options they had, it's fine,

1612
01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:28.600
but I just I just don't like
to feel that nub. I just

1613
01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:31.680
I think it's a it's a bad
it's a bad control thing. It's hard

1614
01:36:31.720 --> 01:36:34.279
to imagine what else they could have
crammed into the form factor of that thing,

1615
01:36:34.359 --> 01:36:38.920
though, because it's already so small. What if you bolted on an

1616
01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:43.279
external shell that had a little stick
on the right or something like that.

1617
01:36:43.399 --> 01:36:45.720
It could be full size at that
point. We could put us some extra

1618
01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:46.880
buttons up top. I don't know, whatever you want to do, that's

1619
01:36:46.920 --> 01:36:51.319
smart thinking what color are the face
buttons. They are normal, they preserve.

1620
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:57.680
So it's all the same as Japan
in that the XCEL has the flat

1621
01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:00.319
colored buttons, but with the colored
like text on them. The names of

1622
01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:03.840
the buttons are colored. It was
the smaller three DS that had the actual

1623
01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:08.399
Famcom colored buttons, and since that's
not coming out of your period, who

1624
01:37:08.439 --> 01:37:12.359
could say what color it would have
been. Also, it does not come

1625
01:37:12.439 --> 01:37:18.119
with a power A. Yeah,
you know. My instinct when people started

1626
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:20.159
writing articles about that was like,
Bad's not a big deal. Whatever.

1627
01:37:20.159 --> 01:37:23.319
You ca get them for seven or
eight dollars on Amazon, which I did

1628
01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:27.239
buy one on Amazon. But I
changed my tune when I was doing this

1629
01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:30.640
system transfer because I started at like
twelve thirty or one at night, just

1630
01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:32.039
thinking like, okay, I'll just
start this and have a go overnight,

1631
01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:35.439
and then I realized that it was
taking forever, like you know, I

1632
01:37:35.520 --> 01:37:39.399
waited like an hour and it wasn't
anywhere near like you know, ten or

1633
01:37:39.399 --> 01:37:42.039
fifteen percent, and I was like, oh shit, I need to go

1634
01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:44.920
to bed at some point. But
I can only have one plugged in at

1635
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:46.960
one time, so I had to
set my alarm every hour and a half

1636
01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:50.359
throughout the night, wake up I
had them both sitting on my bed unplugged,

1637
01:37:50.399 --> 01:37:54.479
one plugging the other like a nightmare. It kind of sucked. I

1638
01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:58.039
ended up doing something similar. It
sucks. This is why you don't do

1639
01:37:58.279 --> 01:38:01.560
the wireless transfer. Yeah. Yeah, for all, I was going from

1640
01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:04.479
full size SD to microst Like,
you know, what are you supposed to

1641
01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:08.039
do? I mean you moved your
PC. Yeah, you copy the contents

1642
01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:10.439
through the PC. Is that's something
that's still you have to go. But

1643
01:38:10.720 --> 01:38:13.600
you still have to initiate the system
transfer. You have to do that.

1644
01:38:13.720 --> 01:38:15.439
But then that's when it asked you. I feel like the writing on the

1645
01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:21.039
prompt for that terrible. Also,
you have to use a screwdriver to get

1646
01:38:21.119 --> 01:38:26.840
the microst D out and that was
not an option at that time. You're

1647
01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:30.079
a shame because so I did a
three DS transfer like pretty early in the

1648
01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:32.640
lifespan of the system. Yeah,
and it was very straightforward, and like

1649
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:36.720
I was like, wow, this
is very Unintendo, Like, well,

1650
01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:41.239
it's easy to do and it works. But at some point they started having

1651
01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:44.359
your Nintendo I D and you know, like the amount of data they're storing

1652
01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:48.039
on on the system itself, the
system transfer process has got gotten way more

1653
01:38:48.079 --> 01:38:50.720
confusing. I was like say,
no, if you're using mic res D,

1654
01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:53.000
And I'm like, well, I
am, but I don't know,

1655
01:38:53.199 --> 01:38:55.680
but not in the way that they're
saying I am. They don't. They're

1656
01:38:55.720 --> 01:38:58.159
living like the prompts of the system
transfer process. We're not. Obviously.

1657
01:38:58.199 --> 01:39:00.560
They don't even use natural language to
refer to a lot of things in those

1658
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:04.000
things, like they you know,
they call there's the target system the SD

1659
01:39:04.199 --> 01:39:06.600
card, Like yeah, when it
says the SD card, you know,

1660
01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:10.079
they were talking about the big one, not the micro like it's it's all.

1661
01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:13.359
It's all very kind of of twos. Did you have any trouble with

1662
01:39:13.439 --> 01:39:15.359
actually like unscrewing, Like I was
able to find just like some eyeglasses screw

1663
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:19.239
drivers and take the screws out and
then I was forcing it. Yeah,

1664
01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:21.319
no, I mean you have the
screws, don't come all the way out.

1665
01:39:21.359 --> 01:39:25.479
You just you were loosening the screws
and then prying the back cover off.

1666
01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:27.479
It has handles on the sides for
you to do that. It's not

1667
01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:30.000
which and in the manual it says
that you're supposed to use the end of

1668
01:39:30.159 --> 01:39:33.159
the stylist to kind of like prop
it open. But I was trying with

1669
01:39:33.279 --> 01:39:36.359
my fingers and with the prop way
they told me, and it felt wrong,

1670
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:41.119
like I was about to break the
back. It has like like slots

1671
01:39:41.159 --> 01:39:43.239
on either side of it that are
clearly there for you to just grab it

1672
01:39:43.279 --> 01:39:45.239
and rip it the fuck off.
So so I did that. It was

1673
01:39:45.319 --> 01:39:50.600
fine too well. Yeah, but
yeah, so, and I had recently

1674
01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:56.479
purchased a tiny screwdriver set because I
needed like a security screw to open up

1675
01:39:56.520 --> 01:40:00.359
a CPS two board that I had
that had exploded. I already have range

1676
01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:03.520
of screw driver sizes because I like
to do things. I have things often

1677
01:40:03.640 --> 01:40:06.960
require screw drivers. Have a dire
mess of tools, like I've got three

1678
01:40:06.960 --> 01:40:11.039
different toolboxes, but it's just like
tools that have collected and you know,

1679
01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:15.640
half socket sets because some roommates stole
half of them out. Just like it's

1680
01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:17.479
just a fucking wreck a lot of
tools, but I don't know where anything

1681
01:40:17.520 --> 01:40:19.760
really is. Yeah, but they
still come in handy. Yeah. So

1682
01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:23.479
I ended up having to buy another
Allen wrench set over the weekend because I

1683
01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:27.520
was building this old TV stand and
like, realize, I have no idea

1684
01:40:27.560 --> 01:40:30.760
where mine are. So yeah,
that's how tools are around my place.

1685
01:40:31.880 --> 01:40:34.000
Yeah, I don't, I don't
know what to drove these decisions, you

1686
01:40:34.039 --> 01:40:38.800
know, to go to Mike Rust
to incorporate screws into the process. It's

1687
01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:41.800
safe space, you know, and
you know and Mike Rust like you're you

1688
01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:44.439
know, you're probably never going to
access it during place. You don't necessarily

1689
01:40:44.479 --> 01:40:47.079
need to have it super user accessible, right. I do like that it

1690
01:40:47.159 --> 01:40:50.680
loads a lot faster, like Smash
Brothers that they load up and do it

1691
01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:54.319
side by side, like it is
way fastern. Well that would a lot

1692
01:40:54.319 --> 01:40:56.880
of that would also depend on how
fast your SD card is and that kind

1693
01:40:56.880 --> 01:41:00.279
of thing. Yeah, yeah,
but which if someone is going to buy

1694
01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:02.920
one, get it on Amazon.
I went to Radio Shock because I wanted

1695
01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:04.680
it, like the day I got
the system. Yeah, it's like they

1696
01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:08.760
were way more expensive. Sure,
yes, and also, you know SD

1697
01:41:08.840 --> 01:41:11.079
cards is so cheap, you might
as well get the Class ten or whatever

1698
01:41:11.159 --> 01:41:15.079
the fast US I went with.
But again, like with some of these

1699
01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:17.520
some of these, uh, some
of these design quirks that people were somewhat

1700
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:21.920
upset about, like just like the
absence of the smaller three ds. At

1701
01:41:21.960 --> 01:41:26.720
a certain point, I'm left asking, like, you know, how long

1702
01:41:26.760 --> 01:41:30.399
it's the stop gap even gonna matter
before the next real handheld comes out,

1703
01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:31.600
you know, yeah, like,
are you gonna buy this thing? Do

1704
01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:34.079
the transfer, play MAJORA, and
then put it back in the drawer.

1705
01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:38.399
I feel like they've done an incredibly
like even coming out of the event and

1706
01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:42.479
playing games that you know, like
take advantage of the right stick in some

1707
01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:45.520
cases, I feel like they still
have done an incredibly poor job of making

1708
01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:48.720
the case for the new three D
s and why you would actually really want

1709
01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:51.119
one, which is just like just
like what happened with the DSi, where

1710
01:41:51.159 --> 01:41:54.720
it was like, well, all
these things together, these new features make

1711
01:41:54.800 --> 01:41:57.920
this thing sound pretty cool. Yeah, and then do they do absolutely nothing

1712
01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:00.399
with them? Right, and then
a year and a half later, a

1713
01:42:00.760 --> 01:42:03.560
new hand it becomes telling at that
point that it doesn't have a an adapter

1714
01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:06.760
boxed in with it, because they
are clearly selling these people that already have

1715
01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:10.239
one. Right. I might be
alone on this one, but I really

1716
01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:13.640
do think the head tracking three D
thing makes a pretty big improved I've liked

1717
01:42:13.680 --> 01:42:15.920
what I've seen. It hasn't worked
for ship or when it. When it

1718
01:42:15.960 --> 01:42:18.399
works, it's fine, but it
has been incredibly spotty. See I went

1719
01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:21.880
with the last one. I always
had three D off on every game really

1720
01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:24.960
no exceptions like each one. You
know, I'd play like a race and

1721
01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:26.520
Mario Kart with three D and be
like, all right, well that's the

1722
01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:30.720
last time I'll do that with this. I well, okay, why why

1723
01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:32.439
why would you turn it off?
Like what was wrong with it? Because

1724
01:42:32.479 --> 01:42:35.760
of the kind of sweet spot thing
where it's like if you even a little

1725
01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:39.479
bit didn't like having to look at
it dead on all the time. Yeah,

1726
01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:42.199
Like I like the idea of three
D if it worked and it wasn't

1727
01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:45.319
so finicky like it was before.
And now you know, I'm playing through

1728
01:42:45.359 --> 01:42:47.560
MAJORA and I've had it turned up
the entire time, and I think it

1729
01:42:47.640 --> 01:42:50.880
looks really good. And I mean, if you're not making these big weird

1730
01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:54.880
movements with your head, which why
would you be when you're playing games,

1731
01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:58.920
it's pretty good. It will occasionally
freak out, like if you look away,

1732
01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:00.479
like I sneeze or some thing that
I look back, it takes a

1733
01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:02.319
second to just be like, oh
wait, where do your eyes go?

1734
01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:04.439
Okay? There, okay, here's
the three D Like the three D flips

1735
01:43:04.439 --> 01:43:08.479
out while it is looking for your
eyes. Yeah, but that's rare enough

1736
01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:12.239
to where I think it's fine playing
with the three D. Maybe I'm looking

1737
01:43:12.319 --> 01:43:15.199
way more frequently, but I feel
like that thing is constantly losing track of

1738
01:43:15.279 --> 01:43:17.520
my eyes and just wigging out even
when I'm looking at it directly. And

1739
01:43:17.640 --> 01:43:19.800
maybe it's the lighting in the room. Like it seems like they're just a

1740
01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:24.079
number of different factors that they call
it super smart three D is that what

1741
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:26.960
they call it? Something like that
or super stable three D whatever. They

1742
01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:30.279
have a term for it that you
can then go in and disable, and

1743
01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:32.279
I'm pretty close to just disabling it
because I didn't have any problem with the

1744
01:43:32.399 --> 01:43:35.279
three D as it existed on the
regular three D ash Wow, Like it's

1745
01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:38.880
yeah, I mean it's it's a
narrow field of view, but like it's

1746
01:43:38.960 --> 01:43:42.000
fine. It's how it's You're looking
at it straight on like you would look

1747
01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:45.800
at it while you were playing it
anyway, and so having that wide range

1748
01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:49.000
of motion like is somewhat convenient,
but not it's not some big game changer.

1749
01:43:49.039 --> 01:43:51.760
I don't I don't know what do
you think the odds are that their

1750
01:43:51.800 --> 01:43:57.520
next handheld will even have three D
existing? It'll be four K Like it's

1751
01:43:58.159 --> 01:44:00.920
sure, you look curved. It's
weird though, It's like the three S

1752
01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:05.119
is such an obvious reminder of consoles
as like artifacts of the times in which

1753
01:44:05.159 --> 01:44:08.760
they were designed. Yeah, because
you know, three D s came out

1754
01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:13.439
right around the time that like Avatar
became the highest grossing movie of all time,

1755
01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:16.199
and like the TV industry was going
ape shit over three dright, like

1756
01:44:16.279 --> 01:44:20.159
it just seemed like the thing you
needed. And now yeah, like right

1757
01:44:20.319 --> 01:44:24.199
exactly, like who wants three D
anything at this point? Right? Yeah,

1758
01:44:24.199 --> 01:44:27.119
I am surprised that you've had so
much trouble with the head tracking thing,

1759
01:44:27.119 --> 01:44:30.840
because like most of my play has
been on the train and so like

1760
01:44:30.920 --> 01:44:32.920
sometimes it's out in the sun,
sometimes it's underground and I'm kind of moving

1761
01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:36.079
around a little bit, and yeah, lighting situations and movement and everything,

1762
01:44:36.199 --> 01:44:40.159
and it has not been bad for
me at all. If you should probably

1763
01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:44.760
try to play without your snake eyes
sunglasses. Okay, that's that's that might

1764
01:44:45.159 --> 01:44:46.439
maybe that is the problem not helping
I like to be cool while to play

1765
01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:51.039
video games and stuff, So that's
a no go. Yeah. And then

1766
01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:54.800
also, like it started, it
defaults to automatic brightness. Yes, that

1767
01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:57.600
was we both had. I think
Brad and I both had cases where it

1768
01:44:57.760 --> 01:45:00.560
was just it was just cycling up
and back down out. It is something

1769
01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:04.079
very wrong with the system. I
have never liked that feature in any electronic

1770
01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:06.359
ever. Yeah, phones, anything, Yeah, I hate that. So

1771
01:45:06.439 --> 01:45:09.479
I turned that off and pumped it
all the way up and said, burn

1772
01:45:09.520 --> 01:45:11.800
out, my fucking redness, let's
go. Yep. I guess you know,

1773
01:45:11.880 --> 01:45:14.439
I guess it's a time will tell
sort of thing with the new three

1774
01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:16.920
DS, based on what kind of
support it gets, right sure, Yeah,

1775
01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:19.520
Like I saw I saw Zeno Blade
at that event, and like it

1776
01:45:19.560 --> 01:45:23.880
looked nice, you know, it
didn't yeah, and maybe didn't quite look

1777
01:45:24.319 --> 01:45:26.880
up to what I remember the WE
version, but it was close. Yeah.

1778
01:45:27.720 --> 01:45:29.439
So you know, if there's more
stuff like that, I guess it

1779
01:45:29.520 --> 01:45:32.000
justifies its existence. But yeah,
well yeah, but also you know,

1780
01:45:32.079 --> 01:45:34.800
it's one of those things where if
people don't own a three DS and they're

1781
01:45:34.840 --> 01:45:38.279
looking to get in as the library
has become bigger, like you know,

1782
01:45:38.399 --> 01:45:42.800
it's it's a decent price for us. What's been a solid system. Yeah,

1783
01:45:42.840 --> 01:45:45.159
you know, the quality is nice. Like the games that that do

1784
01:45:45.319 --> 01:45:49.159
take advantage of the extra buttons and
features like take nice advantage of them,

1785
01:45:49.239 --> 01:45:53.720
Like any kind of game that has
camera controls are aiming or something like that.

1786
01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:57.600
Like using the stylist to aim in
any kind of dual joysticky kind of

1787
01:45:57.600 --> 01:46:01.720
shooter just sucks. So as much
as that nub is a pain in the

1788
01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:06.600
ass, like I at least can
appreciate that it's there. Yeah, but

1789
01:46:06.720 --> 01:46:10.119
it depends on what uses it.
You know. It's like I went and

1790
01:46:10.199 --> 01:46:13.119
played Smash Brothers just to see if
it worked yet or if that was a

1791
01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:15.119
patch they had to put out because
the system's not out in this territory yet,

1792
01:46:15.840 --> 01:46:17.479
And yeah it works. I was
like, Okay, yep, I

1793
01:46:17.560 --> 01:46:21.399
can do smash tacks with that.
Never gonna do that again. And that's

1794
01:46:21.520 --> 01:46:26.760
I mean that's specific Smash Brothers,
I guess, but yeah, I don't

1795
01:46:26.760 --> 01:46:31.199
know, man, it's it's it's
feels needless. The whole thing feels needless.

1796
01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:36.079
They need more games out there that
are pushing why you would want that

1797
01:46:36.239 --> 01:46:41.920
stuff. Sure, whether it's for
the the you know, more powerful hardware

1798
01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:45.239
itself, or whether it's extra control
stuff like they just need more cases where

1799
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:49.079
they can say look at this,
you need one of these, and they

1800
01:46:49.159 --> 01:46:51.560
just haven't done that yet. Yeah, it remains to be seen if they

1801
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:58.359
will. February thirteenth, ninety nine
in North America. The other excels dropping

1802
01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:01.840
I would have, and they're just
going to discontinue them, I would think,

1803
01:47:01.960 --> 01:47:04.840
than sell out the stock and then
it'll be it. I guess.

1804
01:47:05.479 --> 01:47:10.479
Yeah, And then they've got bundled
versions for like two twenty nine or something,

1805
01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:15.520
right, Monster Hunter one that was
sold out in seconds or whatever.

1806
01:47:15.720 --> 01:47:21.359
But poor fucking bastards or is really
good on it. It's it's better going

1807
01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:25.920
back to that expected. I'm gonna
give Majora another chance. Yeah, I'm

1808
01:47:25.960 --> 01:47:29.319
my yes, Brad. But I
went to I went to the event and

1809
01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:30.800
played some of it there, and
there was at a point where I was

1810
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:33.239
like, oh, I need to
swap masks to talk to this guy.

1811
01:47:33.399 --> 01:47:35.399
I was like, oh, wait, fuck this game. Wait a minute,

1812
01:47:36.039 --> 01:47:39.199
changed my mind. Oh but you
can put it on a touch screen,

1813
01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:41.119
so you just tap it and then
you're you know, whatever I did,

1814
01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:44.880
I did it was still like that, like in making it slightly easier

1815
01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:48.640
to switch masks appreciated, but doesn't
actually solve anything. There's so much different

1816
01:47:48.680 --> 01:47:51.079
stuff you can do. Thanks then
to my to my recollection. If it

1817
01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:54.840
wasn't the day of release, it
was very close to the day of release.

1818
01:47:54.880 --> 01:47:58.199
When I bought Majora's Mask and played
it once and never touched again.

1819
01:47:58.239 --> 01:48:00.359
So, you know, I feel
like I owe it to my self to

1820
01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:01.880
give it another shot. I think
I might be the same way I played.

1821
01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:03.760
I did you do the full thing? Got the Fierce Ddy mask and

1822
01:48:03.800 --> 01:48:06.520
all that stuff? You got all
twenty four? Sorry? What oh the

1823
01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:09.960
Fierce Dity mask? No? No, he played it the day it came

1824
01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:14.680
out. I mean I literally played
it for one session. Oh to play

1825
01:48:14.720 --> 01:48:16.359
it. Oh, you need to
give it a shot. It's one of

1826
01:48:16.359 --> 01:48:19.239
the most unique games it god ever
played. Got to if I remember,

1827
01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:23.600
it's really fucking weird. Will I
will grant you that I remember correctly.

1828
01:48:23.640 --> 01:48:26.640
I got to the end of the
first dungeon and then had to like time

1829
01:48:26.760 --> 01:48:29.680
ran out and have to do the
entire thing again. Yeah, I'm not

1830
01:48:29.840 --> 01:48:31.600
going to do that, Brad,
And I put it in a box and

1831
01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:33.760
I never played it again. Brad, I wanted to keep playing this game,

1832
01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:36.199
and I want to talk about it
on future BombCast right because I'm gonna

1833
01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:40.680
be playing through it too. It
is a fantastically weird and awesome I'll see,

1834
01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:42.760
I'll see what I can do.
It was a game that was,

1835
01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:47.319
you know, an impressive technical achievement. In its day, if you were

1836
01:48:47.399 --> 01:48:51.079
reviewing games on a site that had
graphics and sound scores, you would give

1837
01:48:51.119 --> 01:48:55.760
those very high marks. How ballsy
is that game? To like? You

1838
01:48:55.880 --> 01:48:58.479
take, you know, this pride
and joy of Nintendo Zelda. You know,

1839
01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:00.920
it's just one of the most important
games here of all time, and

1840
01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:03.279
just throw a bunch of super weird
shit. And it was only the play

1841
01:49:03.479 --> 01:49:08.159
Dave works and it's good and it's
and it's bad. It's both. It's

1842
01:49:08.159 --> 01:49:11.800
one of the best, it's super
it's super interesting that they took all these

1843
01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:15.880
risks and guess what, notice that
they haven't done it since because fuck that

1844
01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:20.720
game. It's so polarizing. It's
doing something right. It's so good.

1845
01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:24.680
It's so good. I'm liking it
more now the time stuff and just how

1846
01:49:24.760 --> 01:49:28.119
weird and dark it is. It
just gets graham as you get near that

1847
01:49:28.399 --> 01:49:30.439
third day, a little subtle things
like the music. It's it's just such

1848
01:49:30.479 --> 01:49:33.359
a great game. All right,
it's so bord. I'll take your word

1849
01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:38.119
for it. I'll see what I
can do with it. Just play Dead

1850
01:49:38.199 --> 01:49:41.880
Rising one and said, okay for
your games with time constrolled, dude,

1851
01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:44.920
Oh no, that's how you do
that, it's gonna drive around underground and

1852
01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:49.520
run over zombies. Yeah, so
awesome. I had to get like seventy

1853
01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:55.640
thousand kills or something. First Dead
Rising was Oh man, it was hard.

1854
01:49:56.039 --> 01:50:00.760
It was such a weird thing.
Fifty twenty point achievements which were incredibly

1855
01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:03.159
easy, some of which were damn
near. Were all fun achievements like bowling

1856
01:50:03.239 --> 01:50:05.119
over zon. Yes, that was
that was I mean, that is That

1857
01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:08.880
is the game. That's like put
it down as the game that made achievements

1858
01:50:08.920 --> 01:50:13.720
matter. I don't remember a game
before that. I know so many people

1859
01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:15.239
that spend all that time driving around
in the parking ride or whatever. But

1860
01:50:15.359 --> 01:50:19.079
just like they just they made the
achievements all weird, weird things you needed

1861
01:50:19.079 --> 01:50:21.960
to use the game mechanics to pull
off, you know, instead of just

1862
01:50:23.119 --> 01:50:26.520
like killed eighty of these guys,
like where did this helmet? And killed

1863
01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:31.399
these things with this weapon? Uh
more. Nintendo News, let's just pound

1864
01:50:31.439 --> 01:50:34.520
through it. New amibos are coming
out great, like a lot of them.

1865
01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:39.239
There will be new marths. Oh
yeah, yeah, get your Marthon.

1866
01:50:40.600 --> 01:50:45.159
A new fire emblement is coming without
a title. What Get your Marthon

1867
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:49.399
again? Yeah it's yeah yeah.
Wait yeah, I'm sorry. I was

1868
01:50:49.479 --> 01:50:54.039
thinking I was mixing up Marth and
Schulk. Chulk is from the weird Zena

1869
01:50:54.079 --> 01:50:57.199
Blade things. Yeah, yeah,
funny how that might happen. I can

1870
01:50:57.319 --> 01:51:00.279
Marth are fire emblem. Uh,
there's the the we games coming out on

1871
01:51:00.359 --> 01:51:04.439
WEU that I mentioned. Mario Galaxy
two already came out ten bucks. Yeah,

1872
01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:08.640
they're they're twenty dollars regular, but
all all will be ten bucks for

1873
01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:11.960
the first week. It's my favorite
Nintendo candy. I have a reminder on

1874
01:51:12.119 --> 01:51:15.159
my phone set to buy punch Out
in two days when it comes out on

1875
01:51:15.239 --> 01:51:17.920
Thursday. Yep, I'm underrated because
I never played punch Out on the Wii.

1876
01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:19.600
It did a really good job,
and that seems like a good thing

1877
01:51:19.600 --> 01:51:21.720
I have. It's Yeah, it's
Mario Galaxy two, punch Out, and

1878
01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:26.680
Metroid Prime Trilogy. They're all real
good games. They're really pulling the rug

1879
01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:30.800
out from under the Metroid Prime trilogy
the whole Yeah, it's ten bucks for

1880
01:51:30.800 --> 01:51:33.359
the whole trilogy. Yeah, oh
shit. And it's the it's the WEE

1881
01:51:33.439 --> 01:51:38.680
version that does ye screen and has
the WU or though the we controller support.

1882
01:51:38.880 --> 01:51:41.439
Oh man. But yeah, they
they made very few copies of that,

1883
01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:45.039
so it was like a pretty valuable
WE game, but now you can

1884
01:51:45.079 --> 01:51:47.319
just get it. I'm sell in
the mood to play through Metrod Prime again.

1885
01:51:47.359 --> 01:51:53.359
We code name Steam is coming out
March thirteenth. That looks really cool.

1886
01:51:53.439 --> 01:51:57.039
It was cool I played that that. Nintendo e vented Abraham Lincoln leading

1887
01:51:57.079 --> 01:52:00.000
some kind of force to fight stuff. Yes, aliens perhaps, yeah,

1888
01:52:00.239 --> 01:52:02.680
some like x comp stuff, but
with more direct control. And if there

1889
01:52:02.720 --> 01:52:08.600
will be any mounted bears in the
game unknown. High Rule Warriors DLC coming

1890
01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:12.359
out in February, Puzzle and Dragons, you guys know about that. There

1891
01:52:12.359 --> 01:52:15.079
should be some sort of like if
you buy the High Rule Warriors DLC,

1892
01:52:15.159 --> 01:52:21.319
you're added to a list some kind
of Yeah, you're on the no fly

1893
01:52:21.439 --> 01:52:26.199
list because you bought High Rule A. We know you bought High Rule Warriors

1894
01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:30.319
because and then you liked it enough
to buy add on content the register as

1895
01:52:30.319 --> 01:52:32.199
an offender. If some type that
list is called Club Nintendo, Yeah,

1896
01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:35.359
discontinuing club. Yeah, I've got
bad news for you day. Go around

1897
01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:38.319
door to door. Tell your name
is, like, hey, I bought

1898
01:52:38.359 --> 01:52:41.399
the High roul Warriors DLC. I'm
sorry how many surveys I answered on Club

1899
01:52:41.479 --> 01:52:45.800
Nintendo we'll get to that. Yeah, don't let me get there. Almost

1900
01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:47.640
there, Okay, a few more
bullet points. Oh yeah, the Puzzle

1901
01:52:47.680 --> 01:52:54.680
and Dragon stuff is coming out in
May. Yes, it's like a combo

1902
01:52:54.720 --> 01:52:58.640
pack. Yeah, Puzzle Dragons Zuzz
Dragon z and also the Super Mario Brothers

1903
01:52:58.640 --> 01:53:00.960
addition, both in the same package. Yeah, that's cool. U is

1904
01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:03.119
he gonna Blade coming for three DS? And April Splatoon coming to we you

1905
01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:09.600
and may good Good here is quietly
maybe the most interesting thing, or maybe

1906
01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:13.520
that will never happen again. Uh, they're putting out a cross by game.

1907
01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:17.279
Yeah, Mario Versus Donkey Kong Tipping
Stars. If you buy it on

1908
01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:20.880
the console, you get it on
the handheld for free, or vice versa

1909
01:53:23.039 --> 01:53:26.840
March fifth, that's coming. Yeah. I don't know if And again,

1910
01:53:26.960 --> 01:53:30.600
like who knows what their next handheld
will be, if there is one,

1911
01:53:30.760 --> 01:53:32.279
or like what Nintendo's strategy is going
to be going forward, or if they're

1912
01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:36.159
finally just gonna unify the Sure you'd
like to think that the handheld and the

1913
01:53:36.199 --> 01:53:40.119
console and one product or whatever,
but like, at least they're thinking about

1914
01:53:40.119 --> 01:53:45.039
this stuff for the future. I
hope. Uh, Mario O Versus Donkey

1915
01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:47.680
Kong has been a good series.
Yeah, those games are cool. I

1916
01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:53.960
totally missed this. Pokemon Shuffle coming
for free to the shop is a Pokemon

1917
01:53:54.079 --> 01:53:59.279
themed puzzle game. And isn't Pokemon
Shuffle just puzzling dragons? Maybe there's Pokemon

1918
01:53:59.319 --> 01:54:01.399
Puzzle League on sixty four that's just
a demo for the actual P and D

1919
01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:05.279
product. Uh, Kirby and the
Rainbow because I mean it's like a clone

1920
01:54:05.319 --> 01:54:08.680
of it is like a weird so
weird. Yeah, I don't know.

1921
01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:12.439
Maybe yeah, that that new Kirby
game, Rainbow Curse, coming out February

1922
01:54:12.479 --> 01:54:19.159
twentieth. Okaye. And then I
knew Rhythm Tangoku game got announced for Japan

1923
01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:23.960
and not and not North America.
Is that the Rhythm Heaven? Serious?

1924
01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:26.800
Yeah? I guess that is Rhythm
Heaven. Those are great games for three

1925
01:54:26.880 --> 01:54:30.239
D s. You say, yeah, I believe it is three years.

1926
01:54:30.479 --> 01:54:32.479
Alex's story does not say I believe
it is it is three days? Fire

1927
01:54:32.600 --> 01:54:35.760
him all right, do it now? Okay? Uh? And then yeah,

1928
01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:40.600
some pretty sad news that actually just
came about this morning. Is it

1929
01:54:40.720 --> 01:54:45.000
sad? I don't know? Clubs
shutting down? Uh, it's it was,

1930
01:54:45.279 --> 01:54:46.640
I don't know. I never got
anything of value. It was like

1931
01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:50.079
you would get games occasionally, but
yeah, sure, like it's it's such

1932
01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:54.680
a buonter because the for years,
the stories about Club Nintendo coming out of

1933
01:54:54.760 --> 01:54:58.600
Japan were so amazing. Oh yeah, this is the Japanese prizes were higher

1934
01:54:58.680 --> 01:55:01.239
qualities, and like, wasn't there
this is some apocrypha about like Club Nintendo

1935
01:55:01.279 --> 01:55:04.760
members got to test games or some
crazy shit. I don't know no idea

1936
01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:08.560
about that, but anyway, Club
Nintendo finally end up coming here a few

1937
01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:12.000
years ago, and then it was
like get your hand towels. Yep,

1938
01:55:12.720 --> 01:55:15.880
there's a calendar. Here's a canvas
bast calendar with a mushroom monitors, three

1939
01:55:15.920 --> 01:55:19.479
small link posters. Yes, yeah, here's here's a here's a game case

1940
01:55:19.560 --> 01:55:23.520
that will hold three of your three
DS cartridges. But it's got an anmacrossing

1941
01:55:23.560 --> 01:55:26.880
dog on it. Right, Like
it was that stuff was not great,

1942
01:55:26.920 --> 01:55:30.479
so maybe it's for the best.
They did say that there is some sort

1943
01:55:30.520 --> 01:55:35.560
of replacement rewards program or loyalty program
will be forthcoming. What about the coins

1944
01:55:35.600 --> 01:55:40.319
you have, because I have like
probably over a certain you have a certain

1945
01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:43.039
amount of time to redeem them.
Yeah, check the story. INSIGHT's got

1946
01:55:43.039 --> 01:55:45.560
all the dates for like, you
can only do this until the state that

1947
01:55:45.680 --> 01:55:48.760
kind of thing. You gotta go
figure out what I want while chains,

1948
01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:54.880
that sounds way better than anything they
would actually offer already have a while chains.

1949
01:55:54.880 --> 01:55:57.159
So, yeah, did you get
it from Club Nintendo? I got

1950
01:55:57.239 --> 01:56:00.760
it from Nintendo and Redmond when I
went there. Have you been there to

1951
01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:02.439
get shot of the store or whatever? I've never been here, but yes,

1952
01:56:02.600 --> 01:56:08.159
yeah, I bought one there at
NCL anyway, Okay, sorry,

1953
01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:12.640
yeah, yeah I misheard. Yeah, I feel like I feel like Nintendo's

1954
01:56:12.720 --> 01:56:15.960
kind of they're back to. They're
back to kind of like weird, scrappy,

1955
01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:21.399
slightly desperate Nintendo. You know,
like the era of the insane runaway

1956
01:56:21.479 --> 01:56:25.399
success that is the we into a
lesser extent of DS. Yeah, like

1957
01:56:25.439 --> 01:56:28.520
the we Nintendo was an aloof Nintendo. That was just like, this thing's

1958
01:56:28.600 --> 01:56:30.359
very popular or not. We're going
not going to show so much of our

1959
01:56:30.399 --> 01:56:33.960
hand here to reveal the fact that
we are not sure why it is popular,

1960
01:56:34.199 --> 01:56:38.640
but we are just going to ride
this wave. Yeah. Uh,

1961
01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:42.560
now they're back in like I don't
want to say dire straits, but no,

1962
01:56:42.880 --> 01:56:46.199
no, certainly not. But you
know, their future seems somewhat uncertain.

1963
01:56:47.760 --> 01:56:49.960
Uh, they probably have the money. Hey, I don't know.

1964
01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:53.319
I'm gonna put go on a limb
here. I don't think Nintendo is going

1965
01:56:53.359 --> 01:56:57.319
to go say the future is uncertain. I don't mean like they're going to

1966
01:56:57.600 --> 01:57:00.840
file Chapter eleven or something. I
mean like they're gonna change their products.

1967
01:57:00.239 --> 01:57:03.199
Their next moves are not clear.
Yeah, and were slowly, you know,

1968
01:57:03.279 --> 01:57:05.960
getting its own library. That's pretty
good. Yeah. I don't know

1969
01:57:06.119 --> 01:57:10.039
that sales are so dire for that
thing though. It's like at a point

1970
01:57:10.079 --> 01:57:12.680
Bonetta and Smash kind of bump it
a little bit. Really. No,

1971
01:57:12.840 --> 01:57:15.800
no, no, I think actually
the console numbers did not move. Yes,

1972
01:57:16.520 --> 01:57:19.720
like Smash Brothers move copies. I
haven't seen I haven't seen the December

1973
01:57:19.760 --> 01:57:27.880
impds, but the November ones hardware
sales absolutely did not reflect the the the

1974
01:57:27.960 --> 01:57:30.720
impact of Smash Brothers as as a
software release. That was one of the

1975
01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:33.479
few systems I bought. And then
it was like Jesus Christ, I spent

1976
01:57:33.479 --> 01:57:36.159
three hundred and fifty dollars on this
thing, and then like there was nothing

1977
01:57:36.199 --> 01:57:41.319
I wanted to play, oh Man, Mass Effect three, God Launch Title,

1978
01:57:41.520 --> 01:57:45.279
Batman with Extra Armor. I played
Mario You and then got what was

1979
01:57:45.319 --> 01:57:46.960
Pickman three, the next big one
that came out. Well, there's you

1980
01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:50.920
know, a zombie you I got
that, and I didn't like that very

1981
01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:56.439
much. Did some interesting stuff,
charm you know, it was doing things

1982
01:57:56.560 --> 01:58:00.039
with the hardware of that it was
trying. Yeah, yeah, back when

1983
01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:04.439
there were third party games that came
out for that thing, now like what

1984
01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:09.199
I know, Yeah, what are
you gonna do? Play more Funky Barn

1985
01:58:09.840 --> 01:58:13.600
Dogs? Right? Yeah, that
came. Yeah, that eventually came out,

1986
01:58:13.640 --> 01:58:16.159
didn't it. Advanced Warfare never did
did it? Ghost did? Ghost

1987
01:58:16.199 --> 01:58:20.640
did? Yeah. I don't think
Advanced Warfare came out. There's been there's

1988
01:58:20.680 --> 01:58:25.319
been like I don't even want to
call it scuttle butt because I don't think

1989
01:58:25.359 --> 01:58:29.199
there's any factual basis for it.
I think it's more like wish fulfillment type

1990
01:58:29.199 --> 01:58:31.520
stuff and anything. But like,
I feel like there's been this whole sort

1991
01:58:31.560 --> 01:58:35.720
of buzz online about people trying to
connect the dots and prove that Nintenna was

1992
01:58:35.720 --> 01:58:39.279
going to announce a new console in
the next year or something like that,

1993
01:58:41.039 --> 01:58:44.039
like because I mean, you know, like if if if one worked to

1994
01:58:44.079 --> 01:58:45.640
be announced this year and release next
holiday, that would put it four years

1995
01:58:45.680 --> 01:58:49.199
out. From the WU, which
is not completely unheard of. You know

1996
01:58:49.239 --> 01:58:53.399
the Xbox. Yeah, first that's
cut off first XBO territory, like the

1997
01:58:53.520 --> 01:58:58.600
Xbox it was shut down after four
years. Uh, but you know it's

1998
01:58:59.039 --> 01:59:02.279
that's fine, you know, sure, like announcing new Nintendo platform. But

1999
01:59:02.479 --> 01:59:05.760
what is it? Yeah, you
know, we're not far enough out from

2000
01:59:05.800 --> 01:59:10.239
the EU for like what's the you
know, they would have had to start

2001
01:59:10.359 --> 01:59:14.600
making their pivot moves a year out, a year after the we use released

2002
01:59:14.640 --> 01:59:16.800
at the absolute latest or something like, you know, as technology advanced enough

2003
01:59:16.840 --> 01:59:19.279
are they you know, like what
what would they do that would make a

2004
01:59:19.319 --> 01:59:23.439
difference. And that's what I mean
when I say their their future is uncertain

2005
01:59:23.560 --> 01:59:26.680
because what do they put out?
I mean the hardware gap between the EU

2006
01:59:26.840 --> 01:59:32.199
and the current platforms prevents them from
getting the easy ports. But that's not

2007
01:59:32.439 --> 01:59:35.840
gonna turn their fortunes around like those
you know, they got that at the

2008
01:59:35.880 --> 01:59:40.560
beginning of the WEIU and no one
fucking cared. It's that doesn't matter,

2009
01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:44.000
you know, It's it's not about
the hardware. There's nothing wrong with the

2010
01:59:44.079 --> 01:59:46.039
WU. It's about what do they
do to get it into people's hands?

2011
01:59:46.079 --> 01:59:48.279
Like, you know, what are
what are the games that they're developing,

2012
01:59:48.359 --> 01:59:53.880
what are they doing to better the
WU And that's the sort of stuff I

2013
01:59:53.880 --> 01:59:56.520
think you look at and go like, well, they they sold. You

2014
01:59:56.600 --> 02:00:00.199
know, Like the reason the Smash
didn't necessarily move consoles is because it moved

2015
02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:03.640
consoles a year ago, because you
know, people were buying the console because

2016
02:00:03.640 --> 02:00:08.079
they knew that was going to come. Yeah. Uh, you know,

2017
02:00:08.239 --> 02:00:11.399
And that's not necessarily a bad thing. It just means that, you know,

2018
02:00:11.560 --> 02:00:15.520
that's that's about how popular or something
like Smash Brothers probably really is.

2019
02:00:15.720 --> 02:00:19.520
You think in twenty fifteen that a
new full on Zelda moves more hardware units

2020
02:00:19.560 --> 02:00:23.720
than Smash Brothers. Probably think,
yeah, my boy. I mean,

2021
02:00:24.399 --> 02:00:26.800
if you're asking me, is the
legend of Zelda bigger than Smash Brothers?

2022
02:00:26.840 --> 02:00:29.600
Absolutely right? But I mean,
like, you know, this Zelda coming

2023
02:00:29.600 --> 02:00:31.680
out this holiday, you know,
does that move more we use than Smash

2024
02:00:31.720 --> 02:00:34.720
Brothers? I was too early to
tell. I would say the audience,

2025
02:00:34.840 --> 02:00:40.520
the potential audience for aid good,
new sprawling Zelda game is definitely bigger than

2026
02:00:40.600 --> 02:00:43.920
the current WEU install days. Everything
looks great, yeah, because I think

2027
02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:46.439
there there are plenty of fans of
Nintendo's games that you know, probably haven't

2028
02:00:46.479 --> 02:00:50.479
taken the plunge yet because they feel
like there's not enough. A new Zelda

2029
02:00:50.520 --> 02:00:54.680
comes out and looks amazing, that
could tip a lot of those people if

2030
02:00:54.680 --> 02:00:56.560
it's something where it's like, well, I can't miss this, like this

2031
02:00:56.760 --> 02:01:01.239
is this is a landmark moment because
they have finally made a good departure from

2032
02:01:01.279 --> 02:01:06.840
the Zelda formula and and and that
would tip some people that would then go

2033
02:01:08.039 --> 02:01:10.680
like, well, okay, great, now I get to play Bandet too.

2034
02:01:10.880 --> 02:01:13.000
Now I get to get this version
of Smash Brothers. Now I get

2035
02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:17.079
to get this. But yeah,
I don't know. It's like the people

2036
02:01:17.079 --> 02:01:21.079
that are trying to like speculate Nintendo
into making a new a new console,

2037
02:01:23.560 --> 02:01:26.600
I just I don't see it,
and and like, yeah, that doesn't

2038
02:01:27.000 --> 02:01:30.159
like maybe it'll happen, but I
feel like I feel like whatever Nintendo's next

2039
02:01:30.239 --> 02:01:32.520
move is, it has to be
bigger than hey, we made a new

2040
02:01:32.560 --> 02:01:35.159
console. It has to be like
and you know, it's like a lot

2041
02:01:35.199 --> 02:01:39.840
of people talk about like that idea
of like unifying because they've just been fucking

2042
02:01:40.000 --> 02:01:43.199
killing it on handhelds for a good
long time, just doing really great stuff.

2043
02:01:43.680 --> 02:01:45.960
And there's a lot of great stuff
for the three DS that you know,

2044
02:01:45.079 --> 02:01:48.640
like I would much rather play on
a bigger screen, and so like

2045
02:01:49.239 --> 02:01:53.560
that concept is I find really appealing. Yeah, the idea of like,

2046
02:01:53.640 --> 02:01:56.439
well, you know, it's it's
portable system because then we can sell Pokemon

2047
02:01:56.520 --> 02:02:00.239
games to kids, Like that's our
that's our actual bread and butter, you

2048
02:02:00.319 --> 02:02:02.520
know, in a big, big
way. But we still want to appeal

2049
02:02:02.600 --> 02:02:04.760
to this wider audience. So we
want to make sure that it can do

2050
02:02:04.840 --> 02:02:09.279
this, that can do this and
still look up to a TV and spit

2051
02:02:09.359 --> 02:02:14.000
this out. And you know,
I think that's a really that's a really

2052
02:02:14.079 --> 02:02:15.319
exciting move to me. Like if
they were to do that, I would

2053
02:02:15.359 --> 02:02:20.039
be pretty psyched about it because it's
it's you know, it's Nintendo delivering what

2054
02:02:20.119 --> 02:02:25.439
they're best at to all players instead
of splitting the difference between these two platforms

2055
02:02:25.479 --> 02:02:28.760
in such a way where you're you're
just pissed. It's almost it's almost like

2056
02:02:28.840 --> 02:02:31.520
taking the groundwork that Sony has done
to an extent with the cross by and

2057
02:02:31.560 --> 02:02:34.079
cross save and that kind of thing, and like taking it to its logical

2058
02:02:34.159 --> 02:02:38.039
extreme. Right, Yeah, like
we are the best in the business at

2059
02:02:38.079 --> 02:02:41.520
this type of handheld Like we were
going to leverage that against them. And

2060
02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:44.239
even if it's a dual screen handheld
and they still have to sell a tablet

2061
02:02:44.279 --> 02:02:46.119
controller like the WU or something,
fine, total, But if it all

2062
02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:48.760
works together, right, sure,
like it could be amazing. Like if

2063
02:02:48.800 --> 02:02:51.199
I could just play three DS games
on the WU, I would use my

2064
02:02:51.239 --> 02:02:58.560
WIU a lot more sure. Yeah, yeah, uncertain times. Yeah for

2065
02:02:58.680 --> 02:03:05.199
those guys, uh, Jeff to
read this headline, sid Meyer's Starships were

2066
02:03:05.239 --> 02:03:10.520
meant to fly? Yeah, explain
that. Uh. Sid Meyer has announced

2067
02:03:10.560 --> 02:03:14.680
a new game called Starships. Got
it to spin off from Beyond Earth.

2068
02:03:15.000 --> 02:03:18.439
Okay, Uh, it is a
strategy game. It's coming. I know,

2069
02:03:18.760 --> 02:03:21.119
weird. Well actually, actually,
I just want you to explain the

2070
02:03:21.159 --> 02:03:26.359
headline. Oh no, that's what
you don't explain, you dumb. I

2071
02:03:26.399 --> 02:03:29.479
didn't know if it was a reference
to something that I'm missing. Okay,

2072
02:03:29.479 --> 02:03:30.840
I'll ask you later. Yeah I
didn't. I didn't get the reference.

2073
02:03:33.039 --> 02:03:35.039
You're an old man, Brad.
Yeah that's all I can say. All

2074
02:03:35.079 --> 02:03:38.680
right, Even I know that reference, Bratt. That's a Nicki Minash song.

2075
02:03:38.760 --> 02:03:41.399
Yes, Oh okay, yeah,
Truffle Butter. Not a lot of

2076
02:03:41.479 --> 02:03:46.439
radios around here. Yeah. So, yeah, they announced Starships this game

2077
02:03:46.439 --> 02:03:49.600
is supposed becoming a relatively quickly here, but I guess it sounds like it's

2078
02:03:49.600 --> 02:03:54.439
maybe some kind of smaller team for
Access that is working with sid Meyer of

2079
02:03:54.720 --> 02:03:59.159
the sid Meyer fame, Yes,
to have this game that is set in

2080
02:03:59.239 --> 02:04:01.640
space. It is a rategy game
just coming to Mac, PC and iPad.

2081
02:04:03.359 --> 02:04:06.720
A lot of people seemed pretty disappointed, but it's it's the interest cinematics,

2082
02:04:06.720 --> 02:04:13.319
so it's not necessarily super in depth
about it. I feel like a

2083
02:04:13.359 --> 02:04:15.159
lot of people were pretty disappointed with
Beyond Earth. Yeah, and and I'm

2084
02:04:15.279 --> 02:04:20.399
not enough of a fan of,
uh the that type of strategy work coming

2085
02:04:20.520 --> 02:04:25.880
from sid Meyer to tell you why, well, you you've assuming you were

2086
02:04:25.960 --> 02:04:30.399
being literal, you've already kind of
outlined the one thing that Beyond Earth was

2087
02:04:30.439 --> 02:04:32.359
missing, which is being set in
space. Yep. Yeah, Like if

2088
02:04:32.399 --> 02:04:35.439
this, if this follows on from
the concept of Beyond Earth and now it's

2089
02:04:35.439 --> 02:04:38.960
in space, if this actually takes
place in space, because that's what I

2090
02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:42.800
thought Beyond Earth it's gonna be there's
a fucking fat hex in space SpaceX Yes,

2091
02:04:43.159 --> 02:04:45.479
yes, all right, okay,
good like like finding out that Beyond

2092
02:04:45.560 --> 02:04:49.520
Earth was just survived but on the
planets that are not Earth as opposed to

2093
02:04:49.720 --> 02:04:55.039
like the kind of galaxy spanning.
Sure what this thing sounds like it's going

2094
02:04:55.119 --> 02:04:58.600
to be. That was the disappointment. I think, Yeah, so you

2095
02:04:58.680 --> 02:05:00.079
know this, this is that in
a way. I don't know. I

2096
02:05:00.119 --> 02:05:02.199
can't tell you one way or the
other if that's going to be appealing to

2097
02:05:02.239 --> 02:05:05.600
people. There'll be more news on
it coming out of packs South this weekend.

2098
02:05:05.680 --> 02:05:09.000
I guess I think they're doing a
panel or something. Yeah, of

2099
02:05:09.119 --> 02:05:12.840
some kind there leave someone in this
building is hosting some panel, so that

2100
02:05:13.159 --> 02:05:17.680
stands to reason. Yeah, well
that's exciting to hear. Australian people are

2101
02:05:17.760 --> 02:05:21.760
probably not super excited that hotline Miami
two has been de facto banned there.

2102
02:05:21.880 --> 02:05:26.720
Oh yeah, I thought that we
were past this. Like what the Australian

2103
02:05:26.840 --> 02:05:30.279
Ratings Board refusing to classify? I
thought, I thought that tale is all

2104
02:05:30.359 --> 02:05:33.439
the time that they had added a
new rating in order to prevent them from

2105
02:05:33.640 --> 02:05:39.000
refusing class Didn't they add al eighteen? Didn't that happen? I feel like

2106
02:05:39.039 --> 02:05:44.119
Mortal Kombats coming out there now and
they can finally enjoy getting up. Oh

2107
02:05:44.159 --> 02:05:46.800
you know what, I just I
won't read the there's a pretty lengthy and

2108
02:05:46.880 --> 02:05:51.039
explicit, uh summary of the scene
that they're objecting to. But at the

2109
02:05:51.119 --> 02:05:58.880
end of that, this depiction of
implied sexual violence exceeds I guess keyword being

2110
02:05:58.960 --> 02:06:03.960
exceeds what can be accommodated within the
R eighteen plus classification category. The plus

2111
02:06:04.079 --> 02:06:06.760
is apparently not enough. I guess
not. So you know you need an

2112
02:06:06.840 --> 02:06:13.039
R e teen plus plus. Yeah, and then you're good. Interesting.

2113
02:06:13.399 --> 02:06:17.960
Yeah, so that's still happening.
Uh, there's you know, a statement

2114
02:06:18.000 --> 02:06:23.279
out from Devolver about how they are
not going to change anything and they're just

2115
02:06:23.439 --> 02:06:25.920
pointed and blah blah blah. But
it's not like they're going to make an

2116
02:06:26.039 --> 02:06:30.840
edited or censored version for Australia.
Yeah. Yeah, so I know,

2117
02:06:31.600 --> 02:06:34.479
I suspect there will be ways for
Australians to play that game if they like.

2118
02:06:34.800 --> 02:06:40.359
Sure it is likely to happen.
Yeah, but you know, games

2119
02:06:40.439 --> 02:06:44.479
casting a wider and wider net.
Sure, I guess more and more of

2120
02:06:44.520 --> 02:06:48.439
the stuff is likely too. Yeah. No, I'm extremely curious to see

2121
02:06:48.960 --> 02:06:53.640
how that game shapes up. Yes, what's up with the cover of In

2122
02:06:53.720 --> 02:06:58.199
Miami two? Is Phil Fish the
main character? Wasn't he always? I'm

2123
02:06:58.199 --> 02:07:00.560
gonna say, you're always just wearing
the masks. I canna say, yes,

2124
02:07:01.079 --> 02:07:06.840
uh that happened. Uh the Xbox
One, Okay, I've heard of

2125
02:07:06.880 --> 02:07:11.239
that. It's three ninety nine,
and then it's three forty nine, and

2126
02:07:11.359 --> 02:07:14.520
then it's three ninety nine again,
and how it's three forty nine again.

2127
02:07:15.079 --> 02:07:17.159
All right, So yeah, they
had that big sale around Christmas. We

2128
02:07:17.279 --> 02:07:20.439
like selling these things, right,
As it turns out, we liked it

2129
02:07:20.479 --> 02:07:24.560
when people were buying it. Yeah, it's like such a over drives two

2130
02:07:24.600 --> 02:07:29.000
dollars. I don't know, God, damn, it seems like such an

2131
02:07:29.039 --> 02:07:30.840
obvious move. Yeah, Like,
so, yeah, they had this,

2132
02:07:30.920 --> 02:07:32.560
they had this big thing over the
holidays that it was down to three forty

2133
02:07:32.640 --> 02:07:36.600
nine without connecting two games or with
sorry, without connect with two games.

2134
02:07:36.760 --> 02:07:41.279
Yeah. Uh, and apparently did
quite well. I mean they you know,

2135
02:07:41.319 --> 02:07:45.079
they went in a leading console for
November. In December, they moved

2136
02:07:45.159 --> 02:07:48.520
them by a healthy margin I understand. But they went into that saying like,

2137
02:07:48.640 --> 02:07:51.960
yeah, this is a holiday sale. You know. They all but

2138
02:07:53.079 --> 02:07:55.640
said like, don't get too attached
to the price, right, even though

2139
02:07:55.640 --> 02:07:58.279
a bunch of people said like they'd
be crazy to bring the price back up,

2140
02:07:58.640 --> 02:08:00.680
And then they brought the price back
up I mean, you got to

2141
02:08:00.720 --> 02:08:03.399
have consequences for the people that didn't
act. I guess, but the price

2142
02:08:03.520 --> 02:08:07.319
was only how how long are you
willing to go? Less than two weeks

2143
02:08:07.399 --> 02:08:11.079
apparently is the answer, because as
of the fifteenth it was back to three

2144
02:08:11.199 --> 02:08:16.119
forty nine. Alex's dex says.
Microsoft says this won't be a permanent drop,

2145
02:08:16.159 --> 02:08:20.119
but gives no time frame for when
the promotion will end. Here's when

2146
02:08:20.119 --> 02:08:24.920
the promotion will end. When they
pass Sony in the US. Okay,

2147
02:08:24.199 --> 02:08:28.000
got it? When when they can
say we are the leading console in the

2148
02:08:28.119 --> 02:08:31.039
US, they will say it's three
ninety nine. Yeah, and then see

2149
02:08:31.079 --> 02:08:33.199
how maybe that's that's my guest.
Oh, I wonder how people feel who

2150
02:08:33.199 --> 02:08:37.439
bought Xbox ones in that less than
two week long window. Oh god,

2151
02:08:37.520 --> 02:08:41.560
damn. Yeah. Then actually that's
pretty terrible. Yeah, that really stinks.

2152
02:08:41.119 --> 02:08:43.560
I don't know if this current three
forty nine skew still comes with the

2153
02:08:43.600 --> 02:08:46.880
games or not. Well, I
guess they're still selling the bundles, right,

2154
02:08:46.920 --> 02:08:50.479
Like bundles is still out there,
so I guess you could still get

2155
02:08:50.520 --> 02:08:56.039
it for that price. Uh yeah, cheap consoles, right, Dan,

2156
02:08:56.520 --> 02:09:01.600
Yes, thank you? I paid
five hundred dollars for that Okay, yeah,

2157
02:09:03.359 --> 02:09:05.239
yeah, that's that's more than three
fifty with three games. Yeah yeah,

2158
02:09:05.319 --> 02:09:09.199
that's yeah. I paid that with
no games. Yep. So we

2159
02:09:09.279 --> 02:09:13.439
got connects though, Yeah, I
got connects. I mean whatever. I've

2160
02:09:13.479 --> 02:09:16.479
got my three DS Ambassador certificate.
Yeah yeah, I got that system transferred

2161
02:09:16.520 --> 02:09:20.840
over some of the new three DS
thankfully where that badge with pride, Yeah

2162
02:09:20.960 --> 02:09:24.359
you were there. I was there. I remember waking up and getting that

2163
02:09:24.439 --> 02:09:26.560
email from Nintendo. I just been
like fuck, because yeah, I was

2164
02:09:26.600 --> 02:09:30.479
what two hundred and fifty dollars for
the three Ds at first? And then

2165
02:09:30.479 --> 02:09:31.680
what did they bring it down to, like was on one seventy nine?

2166
02:09:31.720 --> 02:09:35.640
It was like a huge drop one
Yeah, and I bought it at launched

2167
02:09:35.640 --> 02:09:39.119
and played Street Fighter for like three
times. Like I remember the I remember

2168
02:09:39.159 --> 02:09:41.840
the Ambassador stuff, but I had
completely forgotten the reason that all happened was

2169
02:09:41.840 --> 02:09:45.600
because I think was yeah, yeah, it wasn't nobody was buying that thing,

2170
02:09:45.960 --> 02:09:50.079
but there wasn't any And then like
their Ambassador make good was like here's

2171
02:09:50.079 --> 02:09:52.520
a bunch of like virtual console games
that are missing some of the features that

2172
02:09:52.600 --> 02:09:56.920
proper virtual cossol games have, yes, like safe stays or other it doesn't

2173
02:09:56.920 --> 02:09:58.359
have that source. And then like
two of the ten ended up getting updated

2174
02:09:58.399 --> 02:10:01.920
with those feature yeah, and then
and that was so they could put them

2175
02:10:01.920 --> 02:10:03.560
on sale. I think they were
like, you know, and also,

2176
02:10:03.680 --> 02:10:07.359
we have no plans to ever sell
these games separately from this. It's like,

2177
02:10:07.439 --> 02:10:11.399
oh, well, what you just
like already emulated that mapper of any

2178
02:10:11.520 --> 02:10:13.439
s hardware and you're just like,
well, but yeah, if you have

2179
02:10:13.560 --> 02:10:18.880
Ustial's Island down your three D s
now, I don't you have a license

2180
02:10:18.960 --> 02:10:22.039
that would let you have that for
free if you wanted? Great, Yeah,

2181
02:10:22.159 --> 02:10:28.319
all exercise my rights here one of
these days. I'm sure it's not

2182
02:10:28.439 --> 02:10:31.840
even close to through. Oh yeah, it's a top fifteen platform or ever.

2183
02:10:31.600 --> 02:10:35.000
Yeah, okay, yeah, sure, it's the fifteenth best platform ever

2184
02:10:35.079 --> 02:10:39.000
made. I'd put Bubbsy. I
put Bubbsy. Wait which Bubbsy the first

2185
02:10:39.039 --> 02:10:41.399
three? First one? Okay?
Yeah, three D yes, bubbs the

2186
02:10:41.479 --> 02:10:46.199
Art Museum one. All right,
Well, I guess we'll keep our eye

2187
02:10:46.239 --> 02:10:50.720
on console prices because of what we
do. Yeah, yeah, totally.

2188
02:10:50.720 --> 02:10:52.600
I mean three forty nine is a
nice price to pick up a new console.

2189
02:10:52.680 --> 02:10:56.840
That's uh yeah, and you know, uh, I guess Sony has

2190
02:10:56.920 --> 02:11:01.439
permanently packed in the Last of US
Freemastered? Is that permanent? Really?

2191
02:11:01.560 --> 02:11:05.399
Is it? Last of WAS Remasters? Was it just the left behind DLC?

2192
02:11:05.760 --> 02:11:07.920
That can't a weird standalone thing?
Am I crazy? Surely that's not

2193
02:11:09.000 --> 02:11:11.880
the case. It has to be
the full game, right, That would

2194
02:11:11.880 --> 02:11:13.359
be a weird standalone thing because you
kind of got to know more about that

2195
02:11:13.479 --> 02:11:16.039
character and the main games really appreciate
it. Yeah. And then plus,

2196
02:11:16.079 --> 02:11:20.960
it's not even it wasn't even set
up to run by itself. I'm not

2197
02:11:22.079 --> 02:11:26.520
seeing oh here it is on Walmart
dot com. Yeah, I'm It's hard

2198
02:11:26.560 --> 02:11:28.359
to say, but my understanding was
that, yeah, that that game was

2199
02:11:28.439 --> 02:11:35.680
just being concluded period with PS fours
now pack is Yeah, back, that's

2200
02:11:35.680 --> 02:11:37.880
a good pack. End. Yeah, that's that's a whole of a game

2201
02:11:37.960 --> 02:11:39.239
to start with. Beats the Destiny
pack, end the game with that white

2202
02:11:39.279 --> 02:11:43.760
one. That's cool if I got
that one. Yeah, it's a physical

2203
02:11:43.840 --> 02:11:46.840
copy of the game sitting on my
shelf where it will stay for probably ever.

2204
02:11:48.399 --> 02:11:50.199
Yeah, don't worry. By the
time you get back to it,

2205
02:11:50.319 --> 02:11:52.720
they will have made it way easier, gets a maximum level, so they

2206
02:11:52.720 --> 02:11:54.760
should I just play it in like
six months and it might be fun.

2207
02:11:56.319 --> 02:11:58.319
Hey, your destiny is coming.
That's right? Oh cool? Be ready?

2208
02:12:01.000 --> 02:12:03.840
Uh, last story that I've got
unless anything else crazy happened that I

2209
02:12:03.920 --> 02:12:11.159
missed once. I mean, I
don't know story, so I can't GTAPC.

2210
02:12:11.239 --> 02:12:13.560
You getting delayed again. Yes,
it's coming out of year from now.

2211
02:12:13.680 --> 02:12:20.520
Oh cool, okay, enjoy Robotoke
Robert Bowling Studio. Yes, Robert

2212
02:12:20.560 --> 02:12:26.079
Bowling, formerly of Infinity Award Fame, Yes or zero two. Yes,

2213
02:12:26.159 --> 02:12:31.319
one Shots Center Mass. Yes,
the Internet's for zero two. Mere weeks

2214
02:12:31.439 --> 02:12:37.520
after his company had the show closing
trailer at the Game Awards, Robotoke has

2215
02:12:37.560 --> 02:12:43.600
ceased operations. Yeah. They were
making Human Element, which I don't think

2216
02:12:43.640 --> 02:12:45.720
they showed in the gameplay in that
trailer at the end of that show,

2217
02:12:45.800 --> 02:12:48.560
but it was well something where they
had recently got out there as I think

2218
02:12:48.600 --> 02:12:50.520
as part of that reveal and kind
of said, like, it's not a

2219
02:12:50.560 --> 02:12:54.039
free to play game anymore, it's
gonna be out in November. We're working

2220
02:12:54.079 --> 02:12:56.800
on this. You know. They
kind of had pivoted again, right,

2221
02:12:56.439 --> 02:12:58.680
you know, but that game when
they were first getting started, at one

2222
02:12:58.720 --> 02:13:01.359
point they were like, you know, like they say they were going to

2223
02:13:01.399 --> 02:13:05.199
make an Uya prequel to that thing, right, because they were operating when

2224
02:13:05.279 --> 02:13:09.880
the Uya was hot there for that
week and a half and people were like,

2225
02:13:09.960 --> 02:13:11.880
well, I guess we'll put it
out on the Uhia because they're throwing

2226
02:13:11.880 --> 02:13:13.920
money around. I guess are there's
people significant? You know, before anyone

2227
02:13:13.960 --> 02:13:16.840
got their hands on one to realize
it was a shit show. Well,

2228
02:13:16.920 --> 02:13:18.960
he was one of the top backers
bowling. Yeah, his name is on

2229
02:13:20.159 --> 02:13:24.640
my Uya. It's like notch and
then four zero two right after engraved the

2230
02:13:24.720 --> 02:13:28.920
top backers on the first run ridiculous. It's pretty weird. So that puts

2231
02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:31.359
the you know when when you go
back and look at you know what they

2232
02:13:31.439 --> 02:13:35.119
did, like having that trailer closed
the show and with the statement I guess

2233
02:13:35.199 --> 02:13:39.039
that the Bowling gave to JOYCETI read
the quote here yea. This week,

2234
02:13:39.079 --> 02:13:43.840
we have ceased operations of Rubatokei and
the development on Human Element is on a

2235
02:13:43.920 --> 02:13:48.720
hiatus. We were actively negotiating a
new publishing deal for the premium version,

2236
02:13:48.000 --> 02:13:52.720
premium version of Human Element, you
know, meaning not the Uya prequel.

2237
02:13:52.760 --> 02:13:54.760
I have no idea what does this
even mean? But unfortunately is that game?

2238
02:13:54.800 --> 02:13:58.399
What is that game? You know
who knows, but unfortunately I was

2239
02:13:58.520 --> 02:14:03.119
unable to continue to sell fund development
until a deal was finalized. So yeah,

2240
02:14:03.199 --> 02:14:05.439
so maybe they'll find funding. It's
you know, when you have no

2241
02:14:05.560 --> 02:14:07.760
one working on it, it's a
little bit harder to get funding. But

2242
02:14:07.880 --> 02:14:09.600
you know that that just seems like
one of those things where probably having that

2243
02:14:09.640 --> 02:14:13.800
trailer out there closing that show was
their last ditch effort to like, we'll

2244
02:14:13.840 --> 02:14:16.640
get a bunch of buzz around it. Someone will surely come in right and

2245
02:14:16.800 --> 02:14:20.960
and give us the money we need
to get going. But if that didn't

2246
02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:22.520
happen, at least not on the
timetable they needed it too, then then

2247
02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:24.640
yeah, there we are here they
are. But but you know, he

2248
02:14:24.720 --> 02:14:28.319
does refer to it as on hiatus, so right time to kickstarter see it

2249
02:14:28.439 --> 02:14:31.319
coming back? Oh god, yeah, I think he ran. They ran

2250
02:14:31.399 --> 02:14:37.159
another Kickstarter for a second game that
did not make it, So I don't

2251
02:14:37.439 --> 02:14:39.640
think. I mean, Human Element
is technically the first game announced for this

2252
02:14:39.760 --> 02:14:43.640
generation of consoles. It's true,
and hey, dark Sactor finally Yeah,

2253
02:14:43.680 --> 02:14:46.880
dark Sactor finally came out, So
there's you know, there's some press.

2254
02:14:48.279 --> 02:14:52.960
Uh yeah, so I you know, I don't know that was one of

2255
02:14:52.960 --> 02:14:56.199
those things where it just seemed like
such a pipe dream at the start of

2256
02:14:56.239 --> 02:15:00.279
it, and you know, I
was like, I'm you know, I

2257
02:15:00.319 --> 02:15:03.399
don't I don't like Robert Bowling seems
like a very nice guy. Just he

2258
02:15:03.479 --> 02:15:05.439
just he seemed like he was kind
of you know, they he was the

2259
02:15:05.439 --> 02:15:09.760
community guy for Call of Duty,
and then like they kind of gave him

2260
02:15:09.760 --> 02:15:13.279
this creative strategist title and he kind
of understanding he had more responsibilities than just

2261
02:15:13.479 --> 02:15:16.920
the community end of things, uh
there towards the end, but I you

2262
02:15:18.000 --> 02:15:20.760
know, it's just one of those
things where it's like he doesn't necessarily like

2263
02:15:20.800 --> 02:15:24.520
you can't necessarily directly link him to
the rise of Call of Duty in a

2264
02:15:24.600 --> 02:15:28.520
way that gets people to get hyped
about this game. So it was always

2265
02:15:28.560 --> 02:15:31.439
this kind of weird thing. Yeah, you can't. There's no dropping of

2266
02:15:31.640 --> 02:15:35.600
like from the makers of Call of
Duty or a Yeah, so it was

2267
02:15:35.640 --> 02:15:37.680
just sort of a weird. Yeah. I don't know. I'm sure he

2268
02:15:37.760 --> 02:15:39.720
did quite well off of the sales
of Call of Duty and stuff. I

2269
02:15:39.760 --> 02:15:43.600
mean, you look at how long
they've been going. If he's talking about

2270
02:15:43.600 --> 02:15:48.439
self funding, like you know,
clearly it's expensive. They had their office

2271
02:15:48.520 --> 02:15:52.039
that got robbed all that other stuff, you know, was rated or whatever

2272
02:15:52.039 --> 02:15:54.119
it was. They chased him off. Yeah, scarity footage. Yeah pretty

2273
02:15:54.159 --> 02:15:58.159
cool. Wow I missed that.
Yeah, it was awesome. Dude's broke

2274
02:15:58.199 --> 02:16:00.800
in the front door and Bowling just
sprinted down and chased them off and the

2275
02:16:00.840 --> 02:16:03.720
security he tweeted out, Yeah,
put it on Instagram or something. It's

2276
02:16:03.720 --> 02:16:11.000
pretty rapt It was the most human
the human element was. Yeah. Yeah,

2277
02:16:11.079 --> 02:16:13.439
I don't know. Yeah, it's
it's it's curious, you know.

2278
02:16:15.760 --> 02:16:18.279
But yeah, at the same time, I imagine that as an investor coming

2279
02:16:18.319 --> 02:16:22.439
in if you're like, now you're
looking to invest in a game that has

2280
02:16:22.560 --> 02:16:26.079
basically gone dormant and doesn't have a
staff actively working on it, Like what

2281
02:16:26.199 --> 02:16:28.239
are you what are you investing in? You know, like the startup,

2282
02:16:28.279 --> 02:16:31.600
and like can you get those people
back? Like who knows? That just

2283
02:16:31.639 --> 02:16:35.719
seems like a dicier proposition. So
I you know, we'll see. Yeah,

2284
02:16:37.239 --> 02:16:39.239
you know, if they were targeting
this November, then it has to

2285
02:16:39.280 --> 02:16:43.520
be pretty far along though, so
sure hopefully you know, for their say,

2286
02:16:43.559 --> 02:16:48.280
hopefully what they've got to show is
pretty complete and impelling too potential money

2287
02:16:48.360 --> 02:16:52.280
types. Yeah, all right,
well that is all the news that is

2288
02:16:52.319 --> 02:16:56.000
fit to read on a podcast.
Okay, all of it. It's time

2289
02:16:56.079 --> 02:17:03.639
turner. Attention to the emails.
Excuse me, the emails emails BombCast at

2290
02:17:03.840 --> 02:17:07.719
giant bomb dot com. Send your
emails there and I will ignore them all

2291
02:17:07.799 --> 02:17:15.079
right, such as this one from
Gavin in NYC. Instant video Game turn

2292
02:17:15.159 --> 02:17:18.479
off is the title of this email. Hey guys, a big fan of

2293
02:17:18.520 --> 02:17:20.360
the Sight. I was having a
conversation with a co worker when he mentioned

2294
02:17:20.440 --> 02:17:24.159
that all of the Mass Effect games
were terrible, with Mass Effect being one

2295
02:17:24.159 --> 02:17:26.799
of my favorite series. I thought
to myself, well, this person has

2296
02:17:26.879 --> 02:17:31.200
no idea what they're talking about and
did not take anything else they said about

2297
02:17:31.239 --> 02:17:35.760
games seriously. I was curious if
you guys also have a game that causes

2298
02:17:35.799 --> 02:17:41.879
a similar reaction to that mass Efect
conversation out on me. Assassin's Creed sucks,

2299
02:17:41.440 --> 02:17:45.760
like like people that say that you
don't trust them. Oh no,

2300
02:17:45.879 --> 02:17:48.520
I'm the guy that says that.
Oh oh you're saying, okay, if

2301
02:17:48.719 --> 02:17:52.799
I mean you hold anything so dear
that or like our or not even that.

2302
02:17:52.920 --> 02:17:54.079
But just like, do you are
there any opinions that you find Like

2303
02:17:54.639 --> 02:18:00.280
if someone were too an express an
opinion, they didn't like Super MARIOF little

2304
02:18:00.280 --> 02:18:03.079
weird. I mean, it's all, it's just opinions. That's why I've

2305
02:18:03.079 --> 02:18:05.159
never understood the when people get pissed
off at review scores and stuff. It's

2306
02:18:05.159 --> 02:18:07.799
like, well, if you like
it and I don't, just who gives

2307
02:18:07.799 --> 02:18:09.680
a shit. I'm glad you like
it. Like I think when people express

2308
02:18:09.799 --> 02:18:16.879
like a real honest love of EDF, I am suspect if you want to

2309
02:18:16.920 --> 02:18:20.239
tell me that you think that those
games are funny because they're kind of bad.

2310
02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:24.000
Sure, like we can have a
conversation, but if you're a legitimate

2311
02:18:24.079 --> 02:18:26.040
sound like, no, these games
are awesome. I know. I worked

2312
02:18:26.040 --> 02:18:30.120
with a guy named Joe Duba who
up and down said EDF was one of

2313
02:18:30.159 --> 02:18:33.200
his favorite games. Weird. There
are like a lot of you can say

2314
02:18:33.239 --> 02:18:37.680
it's your favorite, But is he
saying it's good? He like there are

2315
02:18:37.760 --> 02:18:41.079
two different things. Okay, he
can love them again, but is he

2316
02:18:41.239 --> 02:18:43.920
saying that like mechanically like what they
made? Are they saying it looks good

2317
02:18:45.079 --> 02:18:48.239
plays? Well, I'm thinking back
to his reviews, like the mechanics of

2318
02:18:48.319 --> 02:18:52.239
those games are stiff and suck ass. I want to say his reviews he

2319
02:18:52.319 --> 02:18:56.559
did give him kind of around like
seven or eight range, but he and

2320
02:18:56.719 --> 02:19:00.600
ironically loves playing. This is that
how the score the school or works over

2321
02:19:00.680 --> 02:19:03.319
there? This is like seven or
eight points are based on like I don't

2322
02:19:03.319 --> 02:19:05.760
know the answer. Cool, and
then the rest of it is like if

2323
02:19:05.799 --> 02:19:11.000
it shoots wet like oh man,
it fit into the console and booted seven

2324
02:19:11.040 --> 02:19:16.559
out of ten. Let's go from
there. Another matrix Yeah yeah, fuck

2325
02:19:16.639 --> 02:19:20.719
man edf is definitely one of them
or good answer, good answer where I'm

2326
02:19:20.719 --> 02:19:22.479
just like, I don't know,
yeah, totally. I don't think there's

2327
02:19:22.520 --> 02:19:26.120
a single thing that somebody could say
that they loved or hated and they would

2328
02:19:26.120 --> 02:19:30.639
make me just like completely yeah,
it's it's there's nothing that's complete. It's

2329
02:19:30.639 --> 02:19:35.200
definitely just like Zelda series. Maybe
it's like forever no series is for everyone

2330
02:19:35.280 --> 02:19:39.159
totally. You know, like if
you were gonna get on a soapbox and

2331
02:19:39.200 --> 02:19:41.799
be like, Zelda is just shitty. It's never controlled. Well, it's

2332
02:19:41.840 --> 02:19:43.920
just there's no creativity, I'd be
like, well, you're wrong, but

2333
02:19:45.000 --> 02:19:46.399
whatever, it doesn't affect my enjoyment
of it. I mean, I think

2334
02:19:46.440 --> 02:19:50.120
you're well. I mean the question
is more about like what somebody could say

2335
02:19:50.159 --> 02:19:54.600
that would lead you to write off
their opinions about other things or just you

2336
02:19:54.719 --> 02:19:58.000
know, it's like if you think
that, you probably one of the things

2337
02:19:58.000 --> 02:19:58.920
where it's like, you know,
I think, you know, it depends

2338
02:20:00.079 --> 02:20:03.000
on how he framed that. If
the guy and if the guy who doesn't

2339
02:20:03.040 --> 02:20:07.000
like mass Effect is saying I don't
like mass Effect, like that's perfectly fine.

2340
02:20:07.200 --> 02:20:09.680
Like I don't like dragon Age.
A lot of people do. Uh,

2341
02:20:09.200 --> 02:20:13.399
Like some outlets gave dragon Age Inquisition
their game of the year, yep,

2342
02:20:13.520 --> 02:20:15.360
and I just look at and go, yuys, you're fucking crazy.

2343
02:20:15.520 --> 02:20:18.600
Yeah, but all right, okay, sure or whatever. It's the framing

2344
02:20:18.680 --> 02:20:22.360
thing. Like if somebody says like, I'm not into Mario games, it's

2345
02:20:22.360 --> 02:20:24.520
like, okay, it's not.
But if somebody says, like the platforming

2346
02:20:24.600 --> 02:20:26.680
sucks and Mario, I'd be like, well, that's that's a dumb thing.

2347
02:20:26.719 --> 02:20:28.639
This It's like that's just yeah.
At that point, you're just like,

2348
02:20:28.719 --> 02:20:31.920
well, you don't know, we're
platform yea. At some point,

2349
02:20:33.079 --> 02:20:37.680
I I get that way with there's
a subset of people out there who not

2350
02:20:37.799 --> 02:20:39.719
only don't like DODA, but want
to make sure you know that they think

2351
02:20:39.719 --> 02:20:43.200
it's the worst thing ever made.
And those people invariably have never played it

2352
02:20:43.319 --> 02:20:46.040
or don't know jack shit about it. Right, I'm sitting right here.

2353
02:20:46.120 --> 02:20:48.959
At a certain point, I'm just
like, who the fuck do you think

2354
02:20:48.959 --> 02:20:52.520
you're trying to impress? Like,
yeah, like, is this is just?

2355
02:20:52.760 --> 02:20:54.920
Is this just the turning up your
nose. That's the thing that's popular

2356
02:20:54.079 --> 02:20:56.760
to make yourself cool. I like, keep in mind that that's you know,

2357
02:20:56.879 --> 02:21:01.120
that's what largely drove you know,
a lot of the people not liking

2358
02:21:01.159 --> 02:21:03.920
stuff like Gone Home. It's the
feeling that drove me not liking MIST when

2359
02:21:03.959 --> 02:21:07.559
Mist was new. Is it was
gaming going in this direction and you're like,

2360
02:21:07.639 --> 02:21:11.719
that's not It's not for me.
Nope, fuck that. If games

2361
02:21:11.760 --> 02:21:15.719
go further in the direction of Miss, we've lost like all troll you know,

2362
02:21:15.959 --> 02:21:18.120
Doda because you know, I don't
personally like it, But yeah,

2363
02:21:18.120 --> 02:21:20.479
I have not. I realized that
there is a level of depth there.

2364
02:21:20.520 --> 02:21:22.280
Like when I say that, oh, there's no strategy, I'm not even

2365
02:21:22.319 --> 02:21:24.360
I'm not even talking about you so
much. Yeah, there are a lot

2366
02:21:24.399 --> 02:21:26.879
of people out there totally. I
think that there there's fun to be had

2367
02:21:26.920 --> 02:21:30.280
at Doda's expense. For sure,
there is, because seriously, people take

2368
02:21:30.280 --> 02:21:33.040
it. But like I'm sure there
is a serious right, Sure, I

2369
02:21:33.239 --> 02:21:37.399
don't doubt that at all. Roshan
only spawns once every fucking forty eight seconds

2370
02:21:37.479 --> 02:21:41.399
or whatever. So it's it's between
eight and eleven minutes. It's same thing

2371
02:21:41.559 --> 02:21:45.200
as of eight minutes, he can
spawn. If he hasn't spawned by eleven

2372
02:21:45.239 --> 02:21:48.719
minutes, he will spawn at eleven. Okay, there're times the cheese mm

2373
02:21:48.120 --> 02:21:50.799
sure, so you know, yeah, so it's the people that will write

2374
02:21:50.799 --> 02:21:54.719
off mobile games because yeah, that's
yeah, yeah, yes, Well I

2375
02:21:54.799 --> 02:21:58.879
think that that's something that like changed, you know, when when mobile games

2376
02:21:58.920 --> 02:22:01.559
were first coming out and people were
talking them up very dramatically, a lot

2377
02:22:01.600 --> 02:22:05.799
of them that were very bad,
and that you had that additional push of

2378
02:22:05.040 --> 02:22:09.200
like dudes in suits saying no,
this is the future, you're a video

2379
02:22:09.239 --> 02:22:11.479
games are dead. It's like,
well, you're fucking wrong. And I'll

2380
02:22:11.520 --> 02:22:15.680
tell you, for a dozen different
reasons that don't show up on a fucking

2381
02:22:15.760 --> 02:22:18.200
spreadsheet why you're wrong. I mean
to me, clearly, the important thing

2382
02:22:18.200 --> 02:22:22.200
to remember is that nobody's video games
are dead, right, everybody's video games

2383
02:22:22.239 --> 02:22:26.159
are still alive and well, but
yeah, and if this ship is big

2384
02:22:26.319 --> 02:22:28.239
enough and diverse enough, I mean, look at how many fucking visual novels

2385
02:22:28.319 --> 02:22:31.879
there are on Steam these days,
Like like everybody's interests are being catered to.

2386
02:22:33.520 --> 02:22:35.319
Well, not everybody's obviously, there's
room for improvement, but sure.

2387
02:22:35.559 --> 02:22:41.399
But like any any like any any
shitty negativity that comes from a place of

2388
02:22:41.520 --> 02:22:45.680
they're taking my video games away is
insane because like totally, and there are

2389
02:22:45.760 --> 02:22:48.360
more games than ever. There's like
more ship for you than there ever was

2390
02:22:48.440 --> 02:22:50.719
before. Shut up. Yeah,
And but it's it's it's one of those

2391
02:22:50.719 --> 02:22:54.479
things that like, you know,
like it's Mist was a very dark time

2392
02:22:54.600 --> 02:22:56.840
for me, and I look back
on it now and go like, ah,

2393
02:22:56.879 --> 02:22:58.239
that was pretty fucking stupid. But
at the time, like you know,

2394
02:22:58.319 --> 02:23:00.920
it was it was one of those
things where you're like, man,

2395
02:23:01.799 --> 02:23:03.520
well, like Doom is out also
stuff that's all these great first person shooters

2396
02:23:03.559 --> 02:23:07.319
and stuff. And then Mist was
so popular so fast, and it drew

2397
02:23:07.360 --> 02:23:09.120
all these people to games that had, you know, no idea what you

2398
02:23:09.200 --> 02:23:11.079
know, what the other games were, and they just wanted you know,

2399
02:23:11.120 --> 02:23:15.760
it's like your parents were playing me
and there. Early in mid nineties,

2400
02:23:15.840 --> 02:23:18.639
the world as it pertained video games
was much smaller than it is now.

2401
02:23:18.760 --> 02:23:22.520
Totally, it was so when most
media rolled in and and tried to say

2402
02:23:22.559 --> 02:23:24.159
this is how it's gonna be,
Like, there was that notion of just

2403
02:23:24.280 --> 02:23:26.719
like wait, wait wait, it's
like, oh wait, every video game

2404
02:23:26.799 --> 02:23:30.760
is just gonna have like shitty two
bit actors in it now. Yeah,

2405
02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:33.239
And you know, I was coming
from the place of like I already saw

2406
02:23:33.280 --> 02:23:35.920
this come and go once with dragons
Layer and a lot of other stuff,

2407
02:23:35.959 --> 02:23:37.440
like you know, like putting video
into your game doesn't make it great.

2408
02:23:37.479 --> 02:23:43.040
Rebel Assault was a great selling game
that also apparently went on to become one

2409
02:23:43.079 --> 02:23:48.040
of the most returned games of its
era. Sure. I think also people

2410
02:23:48.079 --> 02:23:50.920
that say things like, well,
that's what you get from playing and on

2411
02:23:52.079 --> 02:23:56.799
a PlayStation like console war people that
extends to everything. If you were just

2412
02:23:56.879 --> 02:24:00.159
like, oh my phone crash,
they're like, well, my Andrew just

2413
02:24:00.239 --> 02:24:09.399
running fine, right, yeah shp
Console Warriors like platform snobbery, fucking PC

2414
02:24:09.520 --> 02:24:13.719
Master Race, frame rate snobs like, get over it. Yeah, there's

2415
02:24:13.879 --> 02:24:18.040
there's room for pretty much everything at
this point, I guess. Yeah,

2416
02:24:18.600 --> 02:24:22.479
but yeah, but except for DF
stamp it out. Stamp out, Yeah,

2417
02:24:22.920 --> 02:24:26.000
stamp out those giants. Those bugs
got a good yeah, and Majora's

2418
02:24:26.040 --> 02:24:30.440
mask those pretty much. And when
people say they really genuinely like Majora's mask,

2419
02:24:30.479 --> 02:24:31.559
at some point, I'm like,
I don't know. You hired me

2420
02:24:31.639 --> 02:24:39.399
to speak my video. I don't
know. It's really good game. Pack

2421
02:24:39.520 --> 02:24:43.079
South Street Pass. We lost one
of our Major's mask apologists. Now maybe

2422
02:24:43.120 --> 02:24:50.440
there'll be an accident to rid us
the other one. Oh, I'm not

2423
02:24:50.479 --> 02:24:54.280
really going to packs out them sending
the end of the sun good time and

2424
02:24:54.559 --> 02:24:58.840
San Antonio D. You're going you
just may not come back. We're doing

2425
02:24:58.879 --> 02:25:01.639
a video feature out in the t
Oh that sounds fun. Meet us out

2426
02:25:01.680 --> 02:25:05.120
there. Okay, cool, We're
all the clothes, bring props or anything.

2427
02:25:05.440 --> 02:25:07.360
I just just you'll just drive out
to this location. There'll be a

2428
02:25:07.399 --> 02:25:09.719
car with an open trunk, just
getting the trunk, close yourself in it.

2429
02:25:09.799 --> 02:25:11.479
Oh, I like surprises. Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be

2430
02:25:11.559 --> 02:25:16.479
fun. All right, all right, Rory just waved we're going to wrestling.

2431
02:25:16.920 --> 02:25:20.639
Oh yeah, I like wrestling.
Yeah, perfect, have fun with

2432
02:25:20.719 --> 02:25:24.079
that book or tease runner show.
I forgot to copy the email or I

2433
02:25:24.159 --> 02:25:26.920
forgot to copy the name on this
email. Pack South three Pass, Hey

2434
02:25:28.000 --> 02:25:30.440
Brad, can you please remind the
guys to bring their three DS? Is

2435
02:25:30.440 --> 02:25:33.680
with them to pack South. I
want to street pass with them so hard.

2436
02:25:33.079 --> 02:25:35.959
I'll bring mine play some ma door
on the plane. Also, why

2437
02:25:37.000 --> 02:25:41.479
aren't you coming down? Because three
packs is a year too many packses.

2438
02:25:41.879 --> 02:25:45.440
We'll see how packs goes. You
know, I'm happy to hang back and

2439
02:25:45.600 --> 02:25:46.600
let you guys run recon on.
Yeah, with this being kind of the

2440
02:25:46.639 --> 02:25:50.440
first one, we're you know,
we're sending a smaller crew and kind of

2441
02:25:50.479 --> 02:25:54.639
checking it out. Yeah, it
seemed like tickets hadn't necessarily sold out.

2442
02:25:54.840 --> 02:25:56.079
I don't know if they've sold out
since, but you know, that's like

2443
02:25:56.280 --> 02:26:00.639
I remember last time I looked last
week. Sometime you can still get passes

2444
02:26:00.719 --> 02:26:01.920
for Friday, which is when our
panel is. So if you're in San

2445
02:26:01.920 --> 02:26:05.159
Antonio and have not bought a ticket, you might want to look into it.

2446
02:26:05.799 --> 02:26:09.280
We'll be doing an hour on Friday
night, uh, with me,

2447
02:26:09.479 --> 02:26:13.239
Drew, Dan, and Alex.
Yeah, Drew'll be filming, so don't

2448
02:26:13.559 --> 02:26:16.120
fucking bother Drew with me, you
and Alex. I wonder if wrestling is

2449
02:26:16.120 --> 02:26:20.360
gonna come up. Probably not.
I can't imagine. See if you can

2450
02:26:20.479 --> 02:26:22.559
make it, see if you can
make it through the panel that bringing up

2451
02:26:22.559 --> 02:26:26.520
wrestling camera. Yeah, Hey,
let me throw this out real quick.

2452
02:26:26.559 --> 02:26:31.200
We're gonna be in San Antonio during
the Royal Rumble and I am actively trying

2453
02:26:31.239 --> 02:26:35.680
to find a place to watch it, like a public venue, some some

2454
02:26:35.719 --> 02:26:37.200
place, a bigger place, and
I'm bringing my Bengal Hopper, so I

2455
02:26:37.280 --> 02:26:41.559
want to do the my annual Royal
Rumble raffle. I'm trying to decide what's

2456
02:26:41.639 --> 02:26:46.280
like sadder or more desperate this Bengo
Hopper thing. Or I have a friend

2457
02:26:46.319 --> 02:26:48.879
who keeps a big spreadsheet of who
eliminated who, and he fills it out

2458
02:26:48.959 --> 02:26:52.479
over the course of the Royal Rumble, and that was always kind of a

2459
02:26:52.520 --> 02:26:56.559
bummer. Uh, it makes it
so much, It makes it so much

2460
02:26:56.600 --> 02:26:58.799
more fun for people that don't even
follow you wrestling. So like, you

2461
02:26:58.879 --> 02:27:01.520
know, I've taken girlfriends and stuff
to the Royal Rumble and it's like they

2462
02:27:01.520 --> 02:27:05.920
don't know, but like you're fucking
duping them because realistically, the now,

2463
02:27:05.120 --> 02:27:09.280
they're the number of people because when
you get your numbers, yeah, and

2464
02:27:09.440 --> 02:27:13.040
you see who you know who those
entrants are when they run, and you'll

2465
02:27:13.079 --> 02:27:16.799
know immediately if you have a can
have a shot, would say it's these

2466
02:27:16.879 --> 02:27:20.559
people you're like roping into this that
are like maybe this person will win.

2467
02:27:20.719 --> 02:27:22.799
It's like, no, all six
year points. It's random, Like I

2468
02:27:22.840 --> 02:27:26.680
mean, it is, it is. But it's funny too because, like

2469
02:27:26.719 --> 02:27:28.479
I remember, I had a girlfriend
at the time and she had a number

2470
02:27:28.760 --> 02:27:31.840
and Hacksaw Jim Duggan was one of
the like surprise entrances, and everyone in

2471
02:27:31.840 --> 02:27:35.079
the rooms like yeah, hack Saw
and she's like, oh good, did

2472
02:27:35.079 --> 02:27:35.680
I get a good guy. It's
like, oh god, no, no,

2473
02:27:35.879 --> 02:27:41.600
it's gonna be immediately eliminated. You
want you want one or thirty or

2474
02:27:41.680 --> 02:27:43.360
twenty seven? Technically sure, okay, yeah, no, it's it's a

2475
02:27:43.399 --> 02:27:46.040
super fun way to watch the rumbles. Everyone tips in ten bucks or whatever,

2476
02:27:46.200 --> 02:27:50.040
like we usually have like ten or
fifteen people and get numbers out of

2477
02:27:50.040 --> 02:27:52.840
the Bengal Hopper based on that.
Yeah, and then uh yeah, you

2478
02:27:52.959 --> 02:27:56.200
let people draw their own numbers.
I sit there with the Bengo Hopper.

2479
02:27:56.239 --> 02:27:58.120
I did last year's TI. I
bought it. I went to Walmart and

2480
02:27:58.159 --> 02:28:01.079
I bought the Bengal Hopper for seven
dollars and uh yeah, I do it.

2481
02:28:01.120 --> 02:28:03.280
And we have a chart and everything
and who's got who? All right,

2482
02:28:03.319 --> 02:28:05.799
I'm in all right, Well,
we're bringing this on an airplane.

2483
02:28:07.680 --> 02:28:09.239
I am bringing a Bingo Hopper on
an airplane, which I do wonder when

2484
02:28:09.239 --> 02:28:11.959
it goes through the X ray,
this metal thing with a bunch of like

2485
02:28:13.319 --> 02:28:15.600
little balls in it. I don't
know. Didn't you say it was seven

2486
02:28:15.680 --> 02:28:18.120
dollars? Yeah? Why don't you
just buy one when you get there?

2487
02:28:18.840 --> 02:28:22.440
I don't know. Find on Bingo
hoppers store Walmart. I drove around a

2488
02:28:22.479 --> 02:28:26.959
shipload of stores in Minnesota to find
that thing. Can't imagine finding a Walmart

2489
02:28:26.040 --> 02:28:28.799
and in Texas. And there in
Texas is all that difficult? I bet

2490
02:28:28.840 --> 02:28:31.799
there's a lot of Walmarts in Texas. Yeah, but no, I got

2491
02:28:31.879 --> 02:28:33.840
I got one. I bought it
for this reason. Yeah, So we're

2492
02:28:33.879 --> 02:28:37.000
going out there. We're doing one
panel. I'm on two panels on Friday,

2493
02:28:37.520 --> 02:28:41.440
Friday afternoon, and then we're doing
our panel Friday night, and then

2494
02:28:41.719 --> 02:28:46.600
I'm doing another panel on Sunday that
is designed to be just a question and

2495
02:28:46.600 --> 02:28:50.559
answer session if people want to come
ask me questions about whatever. That will

2496
02:28:50.600 --> 02:28:54.200
not be filmed. It will not
be filmed. We'll see who ends up

2497
02:28:54.319 --> 02:28:58.760
crashing that. There's some other people
in town for the show. Maybe we'll

2498
02:28:58.799 --> 02:29:01.000
do some stuff, but yeah,
we'll see how goes. I don't know.

2499
02:29:01.000 --> 02:29:03.200
We're gonna get out there and have
some fun, so hopefully if people

2500
02:29:03.200 --> 02:29:05.680
are gonna be there. Unknown if
it will be live streamed either panel,

2501
02:29:05.719 --> 02:29:09.879
Yeah, we're the We're starting to
think it won't be live streamed. We

2502
02:29:09.920 --> 02:29:13.399
don't have any control over that directly, but well we'll see the Shinta bomb

2503
02:29:13.440 --> 02:29:16.319
packs panel. You will get wet, Yes, you might get soaked.

2504
02:29:16.440 --> 02:29:24.159
Yes, Mike from Michigan. Dan
hiding under bed calling cops. I was

2505
02:29:24.239 --> 02:29:26.959
recently watching the CDF Ghost Chip Unfinished
with Dan and Drew or. Dan mentions

2506
02:29:28.040 --> 02:29:31.639
that once he called the cops and
hit under a bed, but he didn't

2507
02:29:31.639 --> 02:29:35.319
go into details because it was quote
a story for another time. It's now

2508
02:29:35.399 --> 02:29:39.479
another time. If the story happens
to be too personal, please ignore me.

2509
02:29:39.959 --> 02:29:43.879
I've never shied away from personal questions. I'll give the short version of

2510
02:29:43.959 --> 02:29:48.639
this. It was in college.
I had a friend. I think everyone's

2511
02:29:48.639 --> 02:29:50.040
got some of these friends that when
they have a bit too much to drink,

2512
02:29:50.120 --> 02:29:56.239
they get kind of fighty or possibly
stabby. And I had this friend

2513
02:29:56.319 --> 02:30:01.000
that at the time was extremely,
extremely drunk and for some reason decided he

2514
02:30:01.079 --> 02:30:05.280
wanted to stab me. Uh so, anger or just yeah, you know

2515
02:30:05.399 --> 02:30:09.200
what I've talked about, you know, I would poke you like I've been

2516
02:30:09.239 --> 02:30:11.920
in weddings with him since this,
Like we've talked about it, and like

2517
02:30:11.280 --> 02:30:13.280
I think he was so out of
his mind to this point that he didn't

2518
02:30:13.280 --> 02:30:16.479
even know what the reasoning was.
So I was watching Legends of the Hidden

2519
02:30:16.520 --> 02:30:20.000
Temple at three o'clock in the morning
after the bars as you do, as

2520
02:30:20.040 --> 02:30:22.680
you do, because yeah, I
was at the bar, I was really

2521
02:30:22.719 --> 02:30:24.200
drunk. We talked about old Nickelodeon
shows, and then I realized I had

2522
02:30:24.239 --> 02:30:28.879
that Nickelodeon Gas channel Games and Sports
for kids, that air's nick Arcade and

2523
02:30:30.319 --> 02:30:33.040
Legends of Hidden Temple and Doubledare which
are all the best shows that have ever

2524
02:30:33.120 --> 02:30:35.040
happened. And so I was watching
it at like three o'clock in the morning.

2525
02:30:35.120 --> 02:30:39.000
Show Finders Keepers, uh, you
know what, that was too early

2526
02:30:39.120 --> 02:30:41.399
for Gas, but that was one
of the first Nickelodeon game shows. I

2527
02:30:41.440 --> 02:30:43.479
really got it. I figured if
they were going to have their own channel,

2528
02:30:43.479 --> 02:30:46.440
they would they would pull out the
fucking reruns for that. You know,

2529
02:30:46.479 --> 02:30:50.479
I don't think they're a lot on
the guts best global guts everything.

2530
02:30:50.760 --> 02:30:54.680
Fighters do you have it don't want
the agric Craig. But anyway, I

2531
02:30:54.760 --> 02:30:58.200
was watching this stuff and long story
shore, there's lots of details here.

2532
02:30:58.840 --> 02:31:03.559
He tried to saw through my door
with well, first of all, he

2533
02:31:03.879 --> 02:31:07.520
I was sitting there and he came
in the door with some beers and fell

2534
02:31:07.719 --> 02:31:11.239
face first, like Chris Farley style, into my table, and I was

2535
02:31:11.239 --> 02:31:13.840
really afraid he's gonna knock my TV
off. And so I was like,

2536
02:31:13.959 --> 02:31:15.959
okay, let's I won't say his
name, but like, hey, let's

2537
02:31:16.040 --> 02:31:18.239
gonna take you upstairs. He loved
right above me. It's like, okay,

2538
02:31:18.280 --> 02:31:20.040
pass that on the couch. Here, just here, here's a puke

2539
02:31:20.120 --> 02:31:22.079
bucket or whatever. Just chill out. Went downstairs, locked the door because

2540
02:31:22.079 --> 02:31:24.920
I didn't want him to come back
in, and all of a sudden I

2541
02:31:24.920 --> 02:31:28.559
hear him banging on the door let
me fuck in, and I was like,

2542
02:31:28.639 --> 02:31:30.639
oh man, he's real messed up. I'm not gonna let him in.

2543
02:31:31.120 --> 02:31:33.079
And then I hear him going upstairs
to his roommates, give me a

2544
02:31:33.159 --> 02:31:39.440
fucking knife, like what's going on
here? And him through the ceiling or

2545
02:31:39.600 --> 02:31:41.639
whatever. No, he starts trying
to saw through the front door. I

2546
02:31:41.719 --> 02:31:46.559
hear like, like, fucking shining
style, I guess, and I was

2547
02:31:46.600 --> 02:31:48.479
like, this is weird. I
guess, you know, I'll let him

2548
02:31:48.520 --> 02:31:52.040
try to do this because he's not
gonna be able to. And then all

2549
02:31:52.040 --> 02:31:52.920
of a sudden, I hear him
trying to get in through the window.

2550
02:31:54.239 --> 02:31:58.440
And that's when I realized, oh
shit, this is getting serious. He's

2551
02:31:58.479 --> 02:32:01.120
really out of his mind. A
drunk person can get through a window usually.

2552
02:32:01.239 --> 02:32:03.360
Yes, got a bona fide b
and E on your Yeah, yeah,

2553
02:32:03.520 --> 02:32:07.399
your hands. So I locked myself
in the bathroom and called the cops

2554
02:32:07.600 --> 02:32:11.680
and they came and they arrested him. And when I left the bathroom,

2555
02:32:11.680 --> 02:32:15.719
there were muddy footprints all around my
bathroom. He was walking around like he

2556
02:32:15.879 --> 02:32:18.799
was right outside the door. And
that was scary as shit that the cops

2557
02:32:18.799 --> 02:32:22.159
showed me the knife that he had
and everything. And it's a large individual.

2558
02:32:22.840 --> 02:32:26.879
He could easily kick my ass.
Okay, that's not you know,

2559
02:32:26.959 --> 02:32:30.600
a tall order. He could have
overpowered you, is what I'm saying.

2560
02:32:30.719 --> 02:32:33.319
Oh, if he wanted to stab
you, he could have it without a

2561
02:32:33.360 --> 02:32:35.239
shadow of a doubt. Okay,
yes, yes, he was more of

2562
02:32:35.440 --> 02:32:37.280
a fighting type. And I've never
been a fight in my life, and

2563
02:32:37.680 --> 02:32:39.920
uh so, yeah, he went
to jail. They took him to jail,

2564
02:32:39.959 --> 02:32:43.159
and I spent the next morning upstairs
talking to his roommate, which is

2565
02:32:43.200 --> 02:32:46.360
a good friend of mine, and
just like, man, what the hell

2566
02:32:46.399 --> 02:32:48.719
happened him last night? That was
insane. We were kind of talking about

2567
02:32:48.719 --> 02:32:50.680
it. Now, you know,
he's struggled with valcoll and stuff. All

2568
02:32:50.719 --> 02:32:54.159
of a sudden, I hear banging
downstairs at my apartment, just like,

2569
02:32:54.280 --> 02:32:56.600
gay, open the fucking door.
And I was like, Oh, he's

2570
02:32:56.639 --> 02:33:01.280
out of jail. Okay, great, And then I hear him start to

2571
02:33:01.319 --> 02:33:03.440
come upstairs and I'm in his apartment
talking to his roommate. I was like,

2572
02:33:03.639 --> 02:33:07.719
oh shit, And so I hid
underneath my friend's bed and called the

2573
02:33:07.799 --> 02:33:13.079
cops, and they sent him back
to jail. Wow on what grounds?

2574
02:33:15.280 --> 02:33:16.840
I don't I don't remember what I
mean. There's no official child and press

2575
02:33:16.920 --> 02:33:20.760
charges you. We're friends now and
everything, and we him my dad.

2576
02:33:20.840 --> 02:33:24.360
And the second time, I don't
know, he was so drunk. I

2577
02:33:24.440 --> 02:33:26.079
think he must he was in a
bad spot. And like when I walked

2578
02:33:26.120 --> 02:33:30.680
outside when they were taking him away
the second time, his mom was there

2579
02:33:30.799 --> 02:33:33.159
crying because she'd picked him up in
prison, Like what have you done to

2580
02:33:33.280 --> 02:33:35.239
my boy. Why are you sending
my boy to prison? And I was

2581
02:33:35.319 --> 02:33:39.200
like, your son was trying to
stab you for no fucking reason at all.

2582
02:33:39.959 --> 02:33:41.879
Uh so, yeah, but know
we're good buds. Now, Okay,

2583
02:33:43.680 --> 02:33:46.600
Ever, did you ever get an
answer? And he still drinks?

2584
02:33:46.680 --> 02:33:48.719
You said you you drink with him
when he does. He is. He

2585
02:33:48.799 --> 02:33:52.200
has settled down considerably. He was. He had a tumultuous college time,

2586
02:33:52.319 --> 02:33:54.479
you know, with girlfriends and stuff
like that, and he was always getting

2587
02:33:54.479 --> 02:33:58.120
into fights and things like that.
But we did a straight answer out of

2588
02:33:58.200 --> 02:34:01.559
him as to why he wanted to
stab you. No, I mean there

2589
02:34:01.760 --> 02:34:05.520
was never any weirdness there. We
don't talk about. Yeah. Yeah,

2590
02:34:05.600 --> 02:34:07.760
but he's one of those guys that
settled down. He found the right ladies.

2591
02:34:07.840 --> 02:34:11.079
He's got like nineteen kids now and
you know, yeah, see he

2592
02:34:11.079 --> 02:34:16.000
seems happy. Successful. So named
Jim Bob it is not now. He's

2593
02:34:16.000 --> 02:34:22.239
a good dude, all right,
all right now the world knows. Uh.

2594
02:34:22.399 --> 02:34:26.000
Here's another email is Drew Scandlon related
to the drummer from the Foo Fighters,

2595
02:34:26.040 --> 02:34:31.920
Taylor Hawkins. The answer is yes, signed to Charles Beers Androy Baker.

2596
02:34:31.959 --> 02:34:37.360
Based on the comments I've seen,
he's just Sarah question he seems to

2597
02:34:37.479 --> 02:34:41.600
asking an answer, an answer he
seems he seems assured that the answer is

2598
02:34:41.680 --> 02:34:46.319
yes. I suppose there are not
many blonde people out there because a lot

2599
02:34:46.360 --> 02:34:50.879
of people who are born blonde turn
into brown haired. Yeah I had.

2600
02:34:52.000 --> 02:34:54.719
I had blonde hair for the first
two three years. Yeah, turned brown.

2601
02:34:54.920 --> 02:34:58.520
Now whenever anyone anyone blonde, they
say, hey, you're like that

2602
02:34:58.639 --> 02:35:03.920
guy. Yeah, I saw people
with blonde hair tend to have my skin

2603
02:35:03.159 --> 02:35:09.159
color palette. Sure, yeah light. I apologize to Charles for reading his

2604
02:35:09.200 --> 02:35:13.440
full name out, but whenever you
end your email signed full name, it's

2605
02:35:13.520 --> 02:35:18.719
so formal, I have no choice. But most of the comparisons I do

2606
02:35:18.840 --> 02:35:20.879
not mind. M. Yeah,
yeah, that guy's uh, you can

2607
02:35:20.920 --> 02:35:24.319
see that guy. I don't know
what that looks like, but he looks

2608
02:35:24.360 --> 02:35:28.239
side. I was gonna say,
he's in that Sound City documentary and he

2609
02:35:28.479 --> 02:35:31.959
you know, I could see the
resemblance. I guess uh. I thought

2610
02:35:33.000 --> 02:35:37.120
he was gonna pull an obscure Scanlon
into the mix. M. I don't

2611
02:35:37.200 --> 02:35:39.639
meet many of those. Danny even
said, like, it's an Irish name,

2612
02:35:39.680 --> 02:35:43.559
and Danny, I don't think he
even knows any personally. I can

2613
02:35:43.639 --> 02:35:50.360
picture Danny pronouncing the word scanlon,
and I guarantee it sounds exactly. Yeah,

2614
02:35:50.360 --> 02:35:52.120
it checks out there, You go, all right. Mike P from

2615
02:35:52.159 --> 02:35:58.719
Byron, Illinois sends in an email
about the highs and lows of the lobster

2616
02:36:00.319 --> 02:36:07.399
game. Excuse me, hello,
bomb mates, listening to your podcast.

2617
02:36:07.479 --> 02:36:09.559
Last week, Dan mentions a lobster
crane game. I wanted to write it

2618
02:36:09.559 --> 02:36:11.959
in and let you guys know they
exist, and then I rented one for

2619
02:36:13.000 --> 02:36:16.239
about a month. You're going to
rent them. I put it in the

2620
02:36:16.280 --> 02:36:18.200
sports bar I managed, and it
was just meant to be funny, and

2621
02:36:18.239 --> 02:36:22.319
it was only a week long lease. The first day that machine made the

2622
02:36:22.360 --> 02:36:26.360
bar a thousand dollars. The lobster
operator got forty percent of the take and

2623
02:36:26.479 --> 02:36:30.680
came in every morning to make sure
the lobsters weren't dead and cleaned it once

2624
02:36:30.719 --> 02:36:33.239
a week. If a patron caught
a lobster, our cook's in the back

2625
02:36:33.319 --> 02:36:37.719
cooked it for them. The lobster
guy gave us a really quick tutorial on

2626
02:36:37.799 --> 02:36:41.959
how to cook them, and that
was it. The first week was great,

2627
02:36:41.079 --> 02:36:43.440
as the owner told me, I
could keep the remainder of the cut

2628
02:36:43.520 --> 02:36:48.840
as a bonus since it generated a
lot of buzz. Unfortunately, like all

2629
02:36:48.920 --> 02:36:52.680
good things, that quickly escalated into
something very bad. One Saturday night,

2630
02:36:52.760 --> 02:36:58.120
a gentleman one quote unquote a lobster
and quickly dismembered it. Alive. Lobster

2631
02:36:58.200 --> 02:37:01.479
parts soon found their way onto table
and other customers. Another patron took the

2632
02:37:01.520 --> 02:37:07.079
lobster dismemberment very hard and beat the
lobster slayer pretty badly. The funny part

2633
02:37:07.159 --> 02:37:11.920
was after he had knocked him clean
out and the bar cheered for his heroic

2634
02:37:11.000 --> 02:37:16.440
stand, the man unwrapped some butter
pads and began to slather the person's hair

2635
02:37:16.479 --> 02:37:22.520
and face while yelling this is for
the lobster. The cops came and took

2636
02:37:22.600 --> 02:37:26.120
both people to jail. This was
on a weekday night, and no bouncers

2637
02:37:26.159 --> 02:37:28.760
were around to stop it. In
case anyone wonders why none of this was

2638
02:37:28.799 --> 02:37:33.600
stopped, the lobster machine soon went
from a beacon of curiosity to borderline animal

2639
02:37:33.639 --> 02:37:37.399
cruelty as the crowd that was rabid
to play soon felt for the lobsters.

2640
02:37:37.799 --> 02:37:41.680
So we called the lobster man back
and he came and got his machine and

2641
02:37:41.799 --> 02:37:46.239
moved it down the road to another
bar. So yeah, so it sounds

2642
02:37:46.360 --> 02:37:50.000
lucrative. That's oh man, that's
the lobster crane gate. I didn't know

2643
02:37:50.040 --> 02:37:52.799
you could rent them. I kind
of wanted to put one in front of

2644
02:37:52.799 --> 02:37:54.159
my apartment now and just shakes the
profit. There you go, it's a

2645
02:37:54.200 --> 02:37:58.239
big live love show. Would just
have this lobster crane over there in the

2646
02:37:58.280 --> 02:38:01.079
corner. Bad idea. I could
probably cook a lobster, take a run

2647
02:38:01.159 --> 02:38:05.920
at it when I've never I think
it's pretty easy. It's throwing some hot

2648
02:38:05.959 --> 02:38:07.559
water, right. Yeah, it's
also alive when you throw it in there.

2649
02:38:07.680 --> 02:38:13.000
Oh that seems sad. Yeah,
yes it's yes, that is that

2650
02:38:13.159 --> 02:38:20.079
is true. Uh, emails,
more emails. Let us see. You

2651
02:38:20.159 --> 02:38:22.559
can go catch lobsters if you have
a license any really, Yeah, a

2652
02:38:22.600 --> 02:38:26.120
lobster and license. Yeah. Why
did they put it in a live Why

2653
02:38:26.120 --> 02:38:30.719
don't they just do something like some
humane like a little ether ragged put it

2654
02:38:30.799 --> 02:38:33.319
out? Yeah, put it in
there? Does it taste? That's weird.

2655
02:38:33.319 --> 02:38:37.040
I don't think it makes any difference
other than people don't care. Yeah,

2656
02:38:37.520 --> 02:38:41.440
it's a little bit. It's a
little bit grim. It's a little

2657
02:38:41.479 --> 02:38:45.120
morbid. That's like that weird duck
thing you were telling me about. Yeah,

2658
02:38:45.200 --> 02:38:46.840
FuG raw Yeah, that's fucked up. Yeah, it's fucked up.

2659
02:38:48.000 --> 02:38:52.200
And they made it legal again in
California. I guess, mhm, it

2660
02:38:52.280 --> 02:38:56.079
seems necessarily it's disgusting. I tried
it. That's I was not a fan.

2661
02:38:58.600 --> 02:39:01.040
Sorry, I'm taking stock of the
emails here. Oh no, I

2662
02:39:01.120 --> 02:39:07.559
forgot to put the name on this
one. Also, I apologize. Copying

2663
02:39:07.639 --> 02:39:11.479
and pasting out of Gmail is not
an exact science. Now you know,

2664
02:39:11.440 --> 02:39:18.920
rock band Coffee makers, says person
Okay Greeting's mom crew. I work for

2665
02:39:18.959 --> 02:39:22.280
a company that, among other things, has done extensive research into coffee makers

2666
02:39:22.319 --> 02:39:24.319
and what makes a good cup of
coffee. We have tested everything from European

2667
02:39:24.440 --> 02:39:30.000
vacuum assisted coffee bongs to three thousand
dollars units that you mount inside a wall.

2668
02:39:30.479 --> 02:39:33.239
I want to know what a coffee
bong is now I have to look

2669
02:39:33.280 --> 02:39:37.399
it up. It's just like all
the fucking Will Smith's ship. We chemists

2670
02:39:37.879 --> 02:39:43.559
on cold press, like creepy,
creepy coffee. I know, all right,

2671
02:39:46.200 --> 02:39:48.959
he says. If Brad is still
looking for a new bullshit coffee maker,

2672
02:39:48.000 --> 02:39:52.280
I recommend the Zoji Roushi ECBD fifteen. We use it every day and

2673
02:39:52.399 --> 02:39:56.920
make it scientifically proven good cup of
coffee. It's also well under one hundred

2674
02:39:56.920 --> 02:40:01.639
dollars. Japanese has an elephant for
a and comes in a box with an

2675
02:40:01.680 --> 02:40:05.639
awesome eighties stock picture. If a
turkey dinner, all right, because nothing

2676
02:40:05.680 --> 02:40:07.280
makes me think coffee like a turkey
down, I'm sold on it. That

2677
02:40:07.440 --> 02:40:11.399
being said, the company I worked
for also played a minor role in the

2678
02:40:11.440 --> 02:40:16.200
release of the original rock band Instruments. Since you were talking about a rock

2679
02:40:16.239 --> 02:40:18.120
band re release last week, I
was wondering, do you think any changes

2680
02:40:18.159 --> 02:40:22.639
should be made to the plastic instruments? Would new features be seen as a

2681
02:40:22.680 --> 02:40:26.239
gimmick? Do you think new instruments
would be included at all? Oh?

2682
02:40:26.319 --> 02:40:28.120
So, that's actually a pit of
news that we missed is that they ran

2683
02:40:28.559 --> 02:40:33.920
Hormonius survey. That's right. That
makes it very clear that they are investigating

2684
02:40:33.000 --> 02:40:37.000
making a new rock band. Yes, because it's stuff like, you know,

2685
02:40:37.079 --> 02:40:39.360
hey, what are the most valuable
features of rock band? In order?

2686
02:40:39.680 --> 02:40:43.319
Was it playing online with other people? Yeah? No? Was it

2687
02:40:43.440 --> 02:40:48.000
weekly DLC? Yeah? Was it
healthy on disc collection? Sure? You

2688
02:40:48.040 --> 02:40:50.360
know. It's like if it was
compatible with the old instruments, would you

2689
02:40:50.360 --> 02:40:52.159
be psyched? How would you want
to buy a rock band? It's a

2690
02:40:52.200 --> 02:40:56.079
digital thing. It was a full
band, kid is something with one instrument

2691
02:40:56.120 --> 02:40:58.000
and like, you know, like
that sort of like do you still have

2692
02:40:58.159 --> 02:41:00.920
working rock band instruments? Was one
of the question. Actually, we got

2693
02:41:00.920 --> 02:41:05.559
a couple other emails in that vein
one person asking in particular about you know,

2694
02:41:05.600 --> 02:41:11.200
don't you include that email? Maybe
I did, maybe I did not,

2695
02:41:11.920 --> 02:41:15.440
asking about you know what. I'm
gonna read that email right now because

2696
02:41:15.479 --> 02:41:20.360
here it is Josh from k C. Let's just follow on with the recent

2697
02:41:20.440 --> 02:41:22.719
rock band DLC and rumors of a
next gen game. Would Harmonic's benefit by

2698
02:41:22.760 --> 02:41:28.159
going exclusive specifically Sony after the bad
will that was caused with the Connect Unbundling

2699
02:41:28.200 --> 02:41:33.079
and Fantasia game along with a relationship
with Sony and Ampletude. Would it be

2700
02:41:33.120 --> 02:41:37.280
possible? More so, since Sony
has roots in music and movie soundtracks,

2701
02:41:37.319 --> 02:41:41.239
couldn't that save time and money and
licensing that music that I assume was problematic

2702
02:41:41.319 --> 02:41:50.280
originally. One thing I'll say about
like the existence of Sony Music and Sony

2703
02:41:50.319 --> 02:41:52.799
Pictures and blah blah blah, is
that I don't get the sense that those

2704
02:41:52.840 --> 02:41:56.159
divisions of that corporation worked together at
all. Right, Yeah, I don't

2705
02:41:56.200 --> 02:42:00.959
think there's there's probably not much synergy
in there, like if anything, almost

2706
02:42:01.000 --> 02:42:03.760
sounds like there might be more headache
and if some things like that happen.

2707
02:42:05.280 --> 02:42:09.879
I had also seen somebody some people
in the press were floating the opposite idea,

2708
02:42:09.959 --> 02:42:13.920
which was rock band going exclusive to
Xbox. I don't know what that

2709
02:42:13.120 --> 02:42:18.200
was with respect to like, I
don't know what Microsoft can offer that Sony

2710
02:42:18.280 --> 02:42:22.639
can't. Well, I feel like, you know, Microsoft was definitely or

2711
02:42:22.719 --> 02:42:26.799
the the Xbox three sixty was certainly
like the platform. It seemed like the

2712
02:42:26.920 --> 02:42:30.479
platform for I was gonna say,
like the that's the one consideration. Yeah,

2713
02:42:30.559 --> 02:42:33.239
you know, it got rock band
network because of the creators stuff that

2714
02:42:33.319 --> 02:42:37.959
they had on the three sixty.
Wad PS three. Never get that no

2715
02:42:37.959 --> 02:42:41.840
rock band network on PS three was
like some tracks would get upgraded into proper

2716
02:42:41.920 --> 02:42:46.959
DLC and then sold on the rail. I thought rock band net worth was

2717
02:42:48.000 --> 02:42:50.920
on both and then on the Wii. It was apparently just like updating the

2718
02:42:50.959 --> 02:42:52.920
store a week to week was a
nightmare because you had to re submit the

2719
02:42:52.959 --> 02:42:58.479
whole thing or whatever it was,
right, Yeah, I don't know.

2720
02:42:58.760 --> 02:43:01.000
I feel like, you know,
in terms of just like in roads with

2721
02:43:01.120 --> 02:43:05.120
labels like they already have those relationships, you know, from making rock Band,

2722
02:43:05.159 --> 02:43:07.399
from making Dance Central, like the
getting to the labels, getting to

2723
02:43:07.440 --> 02:43:09.559
the bands. They already know how
to do that. They already know how

2724
02:43:09.600 --> 02:43:15.479
their business works, and like how
much it costs them to master these songs

2725
02:43:15.559 --> 02:43:18.879
and and and track the chart them
out and stuff. So it just becomes

2726
02:43:18.920 --> 02:43:20.639
a matter of, like, you
know, for that amount of money,

2727
02:43:22.040 --> 02:43:24.440
what bands can they get? What
bands can't they get? Sure, and

2728
02:43:24.559 --> 02:43:28.319
that sort of thing. I was
gonna say, like the sales data on

2729
02:43:28.399 --> 02:43:33.319
which platform sold the most, LC
probably would make the most sense if they

2730
02:43:33.360 --> 02:43:35.280
were looking at some deal like this, just in terms of roping people back

2731
02:43:35.319 --> 02:43:39.520
in. I mean stuff the rock
band stuff sold sold incredibly well on the

2732
02:43:39.520 --> 02:43:43.920
Wii as well, just by virtue
of it being a huge platform, a

2733
02:43:43.040 --> 02:43:46.319
huge, huge platform with a very
casual audience like rock band was you know,

2734
02:43:46.440 --> 02:43:50.440
had had a wide appeal. But
you know, most of those people

2735
02:43:50.440 --> 02:43:52.840
didn't have a we hooked up to
the internet and don't even know that you

2736
02:43:52.959 --> 02:43:56.200
can download music, so, uh, you know that's an issue, right.

2737
02:43:56.879 --> 02:44:00.520
And then there's you know, there's
a whole question of whether old dealc

2738
02:44:00.559 --> 02:44:03.280
you would even carry over. Yeah, I think that was one of the

2739
02:44:03.360 --> 02:44:07.600
questions on their survey was DEALC compatibility. How important is that to you?

2740
02:44:07.239 --> 02:44:15.079
Which it's very sure, incredibly of
the utmost like I was saying, I

2741
02:44:15.079 --> 02:44:18.440
would say, like for people if
you're launching from from starts from zero from

2742
02:44:18.440 --> 02:44:22.040
people, for people who spend hundreds
of dollars on that ship, Yeah,

2743
02:44:22.200 --> 02:44:24.799
yeah, totally, yeah, for
sure. So yeah, I don't know.

2744
02:44:24.840 --> 02:44:28.200
I think they should make another rock
band. I just don't know how

2745
02:44:28.280 --> 02:44:31.120
the business end of any of that
stuff works. Yeah, the question from

2746
02:44:31.159 --> 02:44:35.200
the first email or who, in
my defense, asked not to have their

2747
02:44:35.280 --> 02:44:39.920
name included, so that's why included. But in terms of what they said,

2748
02:44:39.959 --> 02:44:43.639
they said, like would there even
be new instruments like I mean,

2749
02:44:43.719 --> 02:44:46.760
if if you have to be for
compatibility, well yeah, yeah, I

2750
02:44:46.760 --> 02:44:48.799
mean they would want to make native
instruments for those platforms, but they could

2751
02:44:48.799 --> 02:44:50.479
probably also make it work. I
mean, you know, you can use

2752
02:44:50.920 --> 02:44:54.120
PS three fight sticks on PS four
the driver, so the P three that

2753
02:44:54.280 --> 02:44:58.319
you could almost definitely make it work. When the Xbox it might get sticky

2754
02:44:58.319 --> 02:45:01.280
because they're weird proprietary, you're the
wireless instruments might make it to a little

2755
02:45:01.319 --> 02:45:05.280
tricky, but they could have an
adapter, you know, they they've they've

2756
02:45:05.319 --> 02:45:11.559
done USB adapters before for instruments and
stuff, so there's probably a solution there.

2757
02:45:11.000 --> 02:45:16.959
Uh. But yeah, I think
if anything, like, you know,

2758
02:45:18.079 --> 02:45:20.280
making a new rock band is probably
an exercise in making it as simply

2759
02:45:20.360 --> 02:45:26.959
as possible and making use of existing
instruments where available. So like, as

2760
02:45:26.000 --> 02:45:28.200
much as I want to think that, like, oh, you know,

2761
02:45:28.239 --> 02:45:31.680
there's cool stuff they could do to
all those instruments to make them different,

2762
02:45:31.680 --> 02:45:33.159
like put a sixth button on the
guitar, Like I don't know that that

2763
02:45:33.239 --> 02:45:39.559
actually matters, right, No,
Yeah, so you know, I bet

2764
02:45:39.639 --> 02:45:46.079
they won't support pro instruments in whatever
they do next. That that's not because

2765
02:45:46.079 --> 02:45:48.479
they sold those separate upgrades for more
money. You know, it's like a

2766
02:45:48.520 --> 02:45:52.239
weird like that stuff always just seemed
like such an outlier and then and rock

2767
02:45:52.319 --> 02:45:56.799
Smith kind of owns that part of
yes, uh, that part of this

2768
02:45:56.920 --> 02:45:58.719
now, if you want to,
if you want to use a real guitar,

2769
02:45:58.879 --> 02:46:05.000
rock Smith is your game. Yeah. But yeah, I'm really fascinated

2770
02:46:05.200 --> 02:46:09.360
you and I really like rock band. I would love to see them make

2771
02:46:09.399 --> 02:46:11.120
another rock band. Do you guys
think that the rock band name is more

2772
02:46:11.200 --> 02:46:13.879
valuable than the Guitar Hero name at
this point. I bet it's not.

2773
02:46:15.159 --> 02:46:18.280
You don't think so. I don't
know, because there's been like some suggestion

2774
02:46:18.360 --> 02:46:20.840
that like, oh what if Activision
wanted to revive Guitar Hero and went to

2775
02:46:20.879 --> 02:46:26.120
the people who invented Guitar Hero created
in the first place and have them do

2776
02:46:26.239 --> 02:46:30.040
it. Yeah, Like, I
think there would be incredible value bringing and

2777
02:46:30.159 --> 02:46:33.479
bringing those things back together. Yeah. But for Harmonics, I mean,

2778
02:46:33.520 --> 02:46:35.360
they own the rock Band property,
they do. Yeah, so of course

2779
02:46:35.440 --> 02:46:39.639
they want to make the thing that
they own over in rock Band. I

2780
02:46:39.760 --> 02:46:43.120
like it. So what is those
unholy union? Yeah, I mean,

2781
02:46:43.360 --> 02:46:48.399
you know that will make all of
existence. I think the rock Band is

2782
02:46:48.920 --> 02:46:54.360
is the brand that probably speaks wider
to people who are in the know about

2783
02:46:54.399 --> 02:46:58.159
the quality of these games. Sure, but I think the Guitar Hero probably

2784
02:46:58.319 --> 02:47:01.799
still to this day, has like
some kind of wider mainstream recognition. That's

2785
02:47:01.799 --> 02:47:07.200
probably true. Yeah, it could
be an interesting year with that stuff if

2786
02:47:07.239 --> 02:47:11.680
they start got new Tony Hawk coming. Yep, it's fucking ridiculous out there.

2787
02:47:11.760 --> 02:47:15.440
Can't wait to get another one of
those plastic skateboards in here. Yeah,

2788
02:47:15.719 --> 02:47:22.000
it'd be great. Oh god,
damn it. Oh yeah, all

2789
02:47:22.079 --> 02:47:28.319
right, consuming drugs and stupid ways. Uh this guy, this guy put

2790
02:47:28.360 --> 02:47:31.000
the disclaimer at the very top not
to include his name, So in that

2791
02:47:31.120 --> 02:47:33.680
case, I can tell you he
did not want his name included. All

2792
02:47:33.760 --> 02:47:39.120
right. I enjoyed your discussion the
stupid things people have done to get high.

2793
02:47:39.520 --> 02:47:43.000
I too, knew some dummies who
engaged in robo tripping. Here's a

2794
02:47:43.079 --> 02:47:48.159
story of a more notably stupid thing
I witnessed. This is pretty good.

2795
02:47:48.920 --> 02:47:52.040
A friend of mine grew a bunch
of mushrooms. Fun times were had,

2796
02:47:52.520 --> 02:47:56.959
and then everyone was sad that we
had no more mushrooms. All we had

2797
02:47:56.120 --> 02:48:00.280
was the big bin of dirt in
which the mushrooms grew, and a lot

2798
02:48:00.319 --> 02:48:05.200
of free time and the Internet.
Naturally, this led to one of my

2799
02:48:05.239 --> 02:48:09.239
friends discovering that although the bulk of
the hallucinogenic material turned into big, chewy

2800
02:48:09.319 --> 02:48:13.760
mushrooms, some of it was just
infused into the dirt. Why don't we

2801
02:48:13.840 --> 02:48:16.200
just eat the dirt, asked one
of my friends. For me to the

2802
02:48:16.280 --> 02:48:20.399
answer to that question was because I
have some self respect. But that weekend,

2803
02:48:20.559 --> 02:48:24.399
several of my friends worked over a
few hours to eat large handfuls of

2804
02:48:24.440 --> 02:48:30.799
theoretically hallucinogenic dirt. Some ate in
small nibbles, some mixed it in with

2805
02:48:30.959 --> 02:48:35.639
other food. One guy covered his
dirt with chocolate fudge. No matter what

2806
02:48:35.799 --> 02:48:41.079
method they chose, it was pretty
disgusting. I would like to now say

2807
02:48:41.159 --> 02:48:43.760
that this was totally ineffective, and
these more arms went to bed with bellies

2808
02:48:43.799 --> 02:48:48.399
full of dirt because that would be
funnier. But actually it totally worked,

2809
02:48:48.440 --> 02:48:52.239
and they tripped balls. Wow.
I think only one person puked. I

2810
02:48:52.399 --> 02:48:56.159
escaped the situation with my dignity intact. And then the next week they realized

2811
02:48:56.159 --> 02:49:00.200
they could get the same effect by
brewing tea from the dirt, which I

2812
02:49:00.200 --> 02:49:03.959
totally drank. It tastes like a
big glass of dirty bathwater. Growth.

2813
02:49:05.040 --> 02:49:09.280
Don't do drugs, Yeah, don't
do that. Listen to this, Listen

2814
02:49:09.319 --> 02:49:13.159
to these. Yeah, drink beer
comes on a bottle, you buy it

2815
02:49:13.200 --> 02:49:16.799
at the store, and ads to
psychedelic mushrooms. They're addicted to mushrooms.

2816
02:49:18.280 --> 02:49:22.120
They'll do anything to get it.
I'm only saying that because then someone left.

2817
02:49:22.399 --> 02:49:26.680
Actually, you can't really get addicted
to mushrooms. I don't know if

2818
02:49:26.719 --> 02:49:30.319
it's totally safe. I don't think
you can. I know I know,

2819
02:49:30.840 --> 02:49:33.920
I know, Okay, it's cool. How about a couple of video game

2820
02:49:33.959 --> 02:49:37.120
emails cleanse the palate? Sure make
you feel a little better about being here.

2821
02:49:37.159 --> 02:49:39.120
I feel like it's a ropotop.
I feel like you're gonna ask a

2822
02:49:39.200 --> 02:49:43.079
couple and then whatever's coming after that
is gonna be way worse. This is

2823
02:49:43.159 --> 02:49:48.799
pretty okay, all right? Go
on, Michael and concord California conquered,

2824
02:49:48.920 --> 02:49:56.200
conquered, conquered for day, Concord
conquered, conquered. We're going to conquered.

2825
02:49:56.559 --> 02:50:00.239
Why you have been because where I'm
from, there's a concord. Okay,

2826
02:50:00.280 --> 02:50:01.360
this is just conquered. Also,
go to conquered. Also, what

2827
02:50:01.399 --> 02:50:07.600
don't go to conquer? Also the
plane the concord doesn't that doesn't eat.

2828
02:50:07.680 --> 02:50:09.680
Yeah, so yeah, the concord
is totally different. I project your explanation.

2829
02:50:09.760 --> 02:50:15.000
They retired the concord. True.
I keep hearing you guys talk about

2830
02:50:15.040 --> 02:50:16.920
far Cry four. If I haven't
played any of Far Cry three, should

2831
02:50:16.920 --> 02:50:20.680
I just skip straight four? Or
is it worth an extended experience? Did

2832
02:50:20.719 --> 02:50:24.200
you get far Cry three cheaply and
then play through both? I mean you

2833
02:50:24.440 --> 02:50:28.840
you probably get Farkry three for a
decent discount and probably and have the more

2834
02:50:28.920 --> 02:50:31.680
I play four, or the more
I feel like I had more fun with

2835
02:50:31.879 --> 02:50:35.719
three, really not the other way
around. I mean, I love the

2836
02:50:35.799 --> 02:50:39.520
problems with three, which were mostly
and then kind of disappointments and storytelling.

2837
02:50:39.600 --> 02:50:41.360
I think if you were looking for
a discount version of that experience, you're

2838
02:50:41.360 --> 02:50:43.440
looking to wade in and kind of
see if it's any good, and like

2839
02:50:43.680 --> 02:50:46.879
getting a cheap copy of three is
totally acceptable. Yeah, I would play

2840
02:50:46.959 --> 02:50:50.440
three. I try to get it
on PC or whatever. But if money

2841
02:50:50.479 --> 02:50:54.120
isn't the worry, then I think
four is the superior. I don't know

2842
02:50:54.159 --> 02:50:56.879
what four or four is a little
more refined and I guess so maybe maybe

2843
02:50:56.879 --> 02:50:58.760
a lot of it was just the
newness of like, oh they finally yeah

2844
02:51:00.200 --> 02:51:03.600
farcry and married it to like that
winning Open World Formula cool which Malaria several

2845
02:51:03.680 --> 02:51:07.479
years several years later is now super
played out, But at the time I

2846
02:51:07.559 --> 02:51:11.120
was like, holy shit, like
they took their first person shooter and made

2847
02:51:11.120 --> 02:51:16.760
it one of these games. That's
cool. Yes, play three. I

2848
02:51:16.840 --> 02:51:22.200
had another email here. Okay,
this is slightly retreading the Saints or discussion

2849
02:51:22.239 --> 02:51:26.000
from earlier, but it's got an
interesting angle so I'm gonna read it.

2850
02:51:26.360 --> 02:51:31.040
Daniel from Ontario. Jeff was wondering
where the Saints Row franchise could possibly go

2851
02:51:31.200 --> 02:51:33.040
next during the gat Out of Hell
Quick Look. Could it be the Volition

2852
02:51:33.120 --> 02:51:37.559
will return to its roots and make
another space combat game. Volitions Jim Boone

2853
02:51:37.639 --> 02:51:41.399
said on interviews that he'd love to
work on another Free Space. It seems

2854
02:51:41.440 --> 02:51:45.520
like they deliberately set up the end
of Saints or four so that if they

2855
02:51:45.879 --> 02:51:48.719
don't get to make free Space next, they can at least make something like

2856
02:51:48.840 --> 02:51:52.520
it and give it Saints Roe dressing. I personally love to see an open

2857
02:51:52.559 --> 02:51:56.920
world space shooter that's more character driven
and filled with side activities like Saints Row.

2858
02:51:56.719 --> 02:52:00.879
The only recent games the future open
space, such as X three and

2859
02:52:00.959 --> 02:52:05.360
Elite are pretty dry and lifeless.
I think a Saints Row free space game

2860
02:52:05.360 --> 02:52:09.680
would be Yeah, I'm totally with
you. That's why I wanted to put

2861
02:52:09.760 --> 02:52:13.399
that email out there. Uh yeah, like the Saints Row humor and like

2862
02:52:13.639 --> 02:52:20.479
characterizations and stuff in your dry ass
like space commerce game. That sounds pretty

2863
02:52:20.520 --> 02:52:26.360
great, pretty funny. I don't
know, like, are we're gonna get

2864
02:52:26.360 --> 02:52:28.639
to the point where Saint Row is
more of a theme than a type of

2865
02:52:28.719 --> 02:52:33.280
game, right that any possible game
type is eligible for the Saints Ro treatment.

2866
02:52:33.520 --> 02:52:37.120
Speaking of Space Homeworld is going to
be the packs really really yeah?

2867
02:52:37.239 --> 02:52:41.479
Okay, is that not the hdification
or the remaster whatever they're calling him.

2868
02:52:41.639 --> 02:52:46.000
All Saints Row is like the scary
movie, date movie dance movie of the

2869
02:52:46.079 --> 02:52:52.159
video game. And this Tree Saints
Row game they'll call it. Meet this

2870
02:52:52.319 --> 02:52:58.920
purpose Jesus Christ. All right,
here we go, Marco from Brazil.

2871
02:53:01.559 --> 02:53:05.319
Uh, game phobias, I have
yep, all right, you got it,

2872
02:53:05.840 --> 02:53:09.600
good job. I have a racking
phobia, a deep paralyzing fear of

2873
02:53:09.639 --> 02:53:13.000
spiders, which makes it very difficult
to play games like Skyrim or Dark Souls

2874
02:53:13.079 --> 02:53:16.639
or any game that features these nasty
creatures. Do any of you experiencing anything

2875
02:53:16.799 --> 02:53:20.440
like this? I don't like bugs, Yeah, but I mean, but

2876
02:53:20.559 --> 02:53:24.040
it's not keep you from playing a
game with bugs in them. No,

2877
02:53:24.360 --> 02:53:28.479
such as Earth Defence Force. Oh
that's what. Those aren't even bugs,

2878
02:53:28.559 --> 02:53:33.079
man. Those ants freeze up and
like fade through the ground. It's like

2879
02:53:33.120 --> 02:53:37.760
you're fighting styrofoam ants. Those ants
can phasee through normal matter. They could

2880
02:53:37.799 --> 02:53:41.280
be anywhere. Think about it.
Oh man, it's terrifying. I think

2881
02:53:41.319 --> 02:53:45.159
The one thing that kind of got
close to that with me was I have

2882
02:53:45.239 --> 02:53:48.280
a real thing about any kind of
tooth pain or eye pain, like,

2883
02:53:48.559 --> 02:53:50.639
so like whenever I had like cavities
or lay sick and stuff like, it

2884
02:53:50.719 --> 02:53:54.280
just scared the shit out of me. So that stand in dead space too

2885
02:53:54.879 --> 02:53:58.479
was like fuck, like just thinking
about it, it's pretty it's a pretty

2886
02:53:58.520 --> 02:54:01.799
unpleasant scene. Yeah, yeah,
stuff like that. But outside of that,

2887
02:54:01.879 --> 02:54:03.319
like, you know, bees scare
me, but like a be in

2888
02:54:03.360 --> 02:54:05.840
a game didn't scare me. I
have a hard time falling from great heights

2889
02:54:05.879 --> 02:54:09.840
and video games really like I feel
it in my stomach. I feel like

2890
02:54:09.959 --> 02:54:13.159
butterflies in my stomach when I jump
off the top of like a giant church

2891
02:54:13.239 --> 02:54:16.680
and Assassin's Creed really like just like
as if I were falling in real life.

2892
02:54:16.760 --> 02:54:20.719
Like it's just like it's this weird, like like feeling of vertigo where

2893
02:54:20.719 --> 02:54:22.959
I have to look away from the
screen. It's not pleasant. I got

2894
02:54:22.000 --> 02:54:24.520
that when I was playing Half Life
two with the Oculus. I've played like

2895
02:54:24.639 --> 02:54:28.200
five hours. Yeah I can.
I can imagine that doing it with Oculus

2896
02:54:28.239 --> 02:54:31.120
would be like intolerable. Yeah,
the part we're like the helicopters chasing the

2897
02:54:31.120 --> 02:54:33.399
near the beginning, and you're going
around the outside of those windows like I

2898
02:54:33.440 --> 02:54:39.920
remember, like genuinely feeling afraid of
falling. Oculu's pretty cool. So I

2899
02:54:39.079 --> 02:54:45.319
hear all right, Your final email
comes from Ben. He calls it Dan

2900
02:54:45.440 --> 02:54:48.559
of the Rings. Okay, dear
Dan. If Lord of the Rings is

2901
02:54:48.600 --> 02:54:50.959
as dumb or I'm sorry, at
least sorry every if Lord of the Rings

2902
02:54:52.040 --> 02:54:54.319
is a dumb thing for dorks,
how do you reconcile led Zeppelin having eight

2903
02:54:54.399 --> 02:54:58.680
billion songs about Lord of the Rings? Are you saying we play it is

2904
02:54:58.719 --> 02:55:01.639
a dork? Have you decided I
did that you're cooler than led Zeppelin and

2905
02:55:01.680 --> 02:55:05.239
are now going to wear tight jeans. I am not cooler than led Zeppelin.

2906
02:55:05.280 --> 02:55:07.719
Did we take this email before we
take I think this on the loss.

2907
02:55:09.079 --> 02:55:11.239
I think this is when we lost
the emails. Yeah, yeah,

2908
02:55:11.280 --> 02:55:16.719
well maybe this this was within the
last week since recent Yeah, because they

2909
02:55:16.719 --> 02:55:20.559
do or someone else asked. I
do remember saying all right, we can

2910
02:55:20.639 --> 02:55:24.120
we can resurrect a little piece of
that lost podcast. Then yeah, I'll

2911
02:55:24.159 --> 02:55:28.600
talk about bitch I'm Madonna later.
Oh yeah, I'm not coolering led Zeppelin.

2912
02:55:28.840 --> 02:55:33.239
Very few people are the wrong stone
Maybe yes, eight billion songs.

2913
02:55:33.440 --> 02:55:37.799
Lord of the rings Okay, you
got Missy Mountain Hop, you got ramble

2914
02:55:37.879 --> 02:55:41.360
On Ramblone, where I hate because
I love the song Ramblon so much.

2915
02:55:41.520 --> 02:55:45.000
But then that goes just explicitly Lord
of the rings On in its like mort

2916
02:55:45.040 --> 02:55:46.319
Wory got on the evil One,
crept up and took away with her in

2917
02:55:46.319 --> 02:55:50.159
the darkest depths of Mortory. Yes, uh fucking led Zeppelin. What a

2918
02:55:50.200 --> 02:55:54.639
bunch of door Yeah, fucking led
Zeppelin. There's some kind of spacey dudes,

2919
02:55:54.760 --> 02:55:58.079
like like Jimmy Page is all into
the occult, which we I feel

2920
02:55:58.079 --> 02:56:01.360
like we talk about that every What
do you want out of your rock band?

2921
02:56:01.440 --> 02:56:03.920
Your seventies rock band? You want
into rolling? Just a bunch of

2922
02:56:05.000 --> 02:56:07.319
dudes that listen to a lot of
blues growing up and then I got drunk

2923
02:56:07.360 --> 02:56:09.399
and made a cool fucking band.
You want your want by drunk, you

2924
02:56:09.440 --> 02:56:13.440
mean shot a lot of heroin?
That that too? Yeah? Uh no?

2925
02:56:13.639 --> 02:56:16.120
Is that one? Uh yeah?
You don't like whatever you like?

2926
02:56:16.280 --> 02:56:18.239
You know you want you want your
spacey, far out types in a rock

2927
02:56:18.280 --> 02:56:22.719
band sometimes yeah, I don't know, Like I don't like people black Sabbath,

2928
02:56:22.040 --> 02:56:26.479
You know, Sabbath isn't because they're
a little too like, uh,

2929
02:56:26.920 --> 02:56:28.760
they're the themes, you know,
I like, be careful man, there's

2930
02:56:30.159 --> 02:56:33.360
I'm not. I'm not a big
Sabbath militant Sabbath fans out there, No,

2931
02:56:33.479 --> 02:56:35.639
I just I just like bands that's
saying about just real world normal stuff

2932
02:56:35.680 --> 02:56:39.799
like drinking and all of ladies and
stuff. Yeah, that's that's why I

2933
02:56:39.840 --> 02:56:43.200
don't like Black Sabbath's all about like
Satan and stuff and magic and crap.

2934
02:56:43.399 --> 02:56:46.760
Like, uh, you know,
I like just a normal guy stuff.

2935
02:56:46.799 --> 02:56:50.000
I love the idea of adventure metal, but I don't actually enjoy it.

2936
02:56:50.040 --> 02:56:52.920
I like it when it's like Dio
and you're just going fucking weird with it,

2937
02:56:54.000 --> 02:56:58.239
and like your videos have dumb animatronics
and both ways. I like the

2938
02:56:58.639 --> 02:57:01.840
I like the ultra cheese factor of
DO, but I also like the subtler

2939
02:57:01.239 --> 02:57:05.120
stuff that Zeppelin. Zeppelin doesn't go
too heavy handed on it, and Zeppelin

2940
02:57:05.200 --> 02:57:09.079
had at the heart is just a
bunch of dudes that love blues. You

2941
02:57:09.159 --> 02:57:11.280
know. What I like is a
good guitar riff, Jimmy Page, give

2942
02:57:11.319 --> 02:57:13.920
me, give me, give me
a good lick, and everything else follows

2943
02:57:15.000 --> 02:57:18.680
from there. So I'm not lys
and a lot of you know, classic

2944
02:57:18.760 --> 02:57:24.520
rock songs because they are so mumbled
and yeah, often often easy to uh

2945
02:57:24.479 --> 02:57:28.239
ignore. Well, there you have
it. Robert Plant not a dork,

2946
02:57:28.840 --> 02:57:33.239
no weird spacey dude, but I
mean he's he's Robbert Plant. Come on,

2947
02:57:33.840 --> 02:57:37.520
Robert Plant, not a dorc Bombcastle
giant bomb dot com. That was

2948
02:57:37.559 --> 02:57:41.440
all the emails that I put in
here. Uh, can you play Connect

2949
02:57:41.639 --> 02:57:46.079
if you are guar? I did
some investigative journalism on that. If you

2950
02:57:46.120 --> 02:57:50.479
want to google that exact question,
you will find the answer in video form.

2951
02:57:50.159 --> 02:57:54.159
I had guar come the game informer
and when Connect first came out,

2952
02:57:54.239 --> 02:57:56.280
right, But I'm trying to I'm
trying to figure out what would prevent you

2953
02:57:56.440 --> 02:57:58.319
from like all the weird ships sticking
out of their uber, all the rubber

2954
02:57:58.360 --> 02:58:01.840
and everything. When it first came
out, there's all that debate about like,

2955
02:58:01.200 --> 02:58:03.360
oh, you know, depending on
like what is it, like the

2956
02:58:03.440 --> 02:58:07.799
time of day or skin color and
stuff like Conneck would have trouble things.

2957
02:58:07.239 --> 02:58:11.000
Yeah, sitting down standing up about
a group of guys with a bunch of

2958
02:58:11.079 --> 02:58:13.280
extra appendages sticking out. Yeah,
Well, basically I just saw that they

2959
02:58:13.319 --> 02:58:15.920
were coming to town. I was
like, I need to think of some

2960
02:58:16.040 --> 02:58:18.479
stupid reason they have them coming here, just want a reason to beat Guar.

2961
02:58:18.799 --> 02:58:20.280
Yeah, let's be honest. It
was worth it. So yeah,

2962
02:58:20.319 --> 02:58:24.440
google that there were some cool dudes, which one is no longer with us.

2963
02:58:24.639 --> 02:58:28.760
Dave Brocky was odorous Rounggus. He
was the main dude that came and

2964
02:58:28.799 --> 02:58:31.159
they were. They drank our beer
game Informer, as you would expect Guar

2965
02:58:31.319 --> 02:58:33.840
to do. Yeah, and on
top of our vending machine, they wrote

2966
02:58:35.239 --> 02:58:37.399
Guar for Guar was here in the
dust, which is probably still there.

2967
02:58:37.479 --> 02:58:41.959
Great in Minneapolis. So next one, nice guys, it's good to hear.

2968
02:58:41.479 --> 02:58:45.559
All right. Well that is going
to do it for this week's edition

2969
02:58:45.799 --> 02:58:50.520
of the podcast. You guys are
leaving for San Antonio Thursday morning. Thursday

2970
02:58:50.600 --> 02:58:54.040
morning, Thursday morning, you guys
are out, Yes, yes, after

2971
02:58:54.120 --> 02:58:58.559
that, I'll be back yeah Tuesday, okay. I will either be back

2972
02:58:58.600 --> 02:59:03.680
Wednesday or Tuesday. Wait what time
Tuesday? I think I'll have to check.

2973
02:59:03.680 --> 02:59:07.120
I think I fly back Monday.
Okay, so I'll be in the

2974
02:59:07.200 --> 02:59:09.120
office Tuesday, I think. So
we have to do another podcast next week.

2975
02:59:09.120 --> 02:59:11.280
I'll be fine for that. Speaking
of podcasts, I'd like to do

2976
02:59:11.319 --> 02:59:16.799
a quick plug for I mean Danny
are doing this thing called you see both

2977
02:59:16.840 --> 02:59:20.600
of our names or Dan or Danny. Wait you lost me? Well okay,

2978
02:59:20.639 --> 02:59:22.319
so you know when you when you
asked them in a question, you

2979
02:59:22.399 --> 02:59:26.559
get an answer. We're doing a
podcast called Dancers d Answers. Yes,

2980
02:59:28.399 --> 02:59:33.000
guys like interpretive dance. No nope, not not not that lamb stuff tap

2981
02:59:33.079 --> 02:59:35.520
or you're learning to it's like river
dance. Yeah, okay, now real

2982
02:59:35.600 --> 02:59:39.840
life question Michael Flatley on that's cool. Yeah. Wow. It's gonna be

2983
02:59:39.920 --> 02:59:45.200
two guys with vastly different life experiences
and probably approaches to things different. Different

2984
02:59:45.319 --> 02:59:48.000
you know, body types and styles
of movements. Yeah, yeah, you

2985
02:59:48.040 --> 02:59:50.600
know, yeah yeah, like I
know, I know Danny has classical training

2986
02:59:50.639 --> 02:59:54.280
and you're more kind of free form. Yeah yeah, yeah, you're kind

2987
02:59:54.280 --> 02:59:58.239
of more of an urban yeah yeah
yeah. Incorporates all these kind of like

2988
02:59:58.239 --> 03:00:03.239
almost like Park who asks into real
I don't like to brag with it,

2989
03:00:03.319 --> 03:00:09.079
you know. Yeah, mixed medium, mixed medium ours. But it is

2990
03:00:09.079 --> 03:00:13.959
a premium podcast. We will be
answering questions of really any kind. We've

2991
03:00:13.040 --> 03:00:16.719
kind of build it as a life
advice podcast, but you can just ask

2992
03:00:16.760 --> 03:00:20.680
whatever fucking questions you want. Dan
Danny man's the email account. He'll he'll

2993
03:00:20.719 --> 03:00:24.680
ask him, I'll answer him.
He'll answer him too. Might my dad

2994
03:00:24.799 --> 03:00:28.559
call in for some dad responses?
So yeah, we're gonna have some fun

2995
03:00:28.559 --> 03:00:30.959
with that. That'll be in the
next couple of weeks. So some dad

2996
03:00:31.120 --> 03:00:35.319
and dad answers. We'll have to
figure out something there. Do you know

2997
03:00:35.399 --> 03:00:39.600
what the email address is for?
The email address is ask Dancers again.

2998
03:00:39.680 --> 03:00:45.159
It's answers with the d ask Dancers
at Gmail though to answers the questions and

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dancwers with Danny Danny. Yeah,
oh okay, yes, when's that going

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up? Yeah, at some point
the next couple of weeks. Obviously the

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schedule is kind of weird right now
with pack stuff, so we might record

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it before. But uh, yeah, we plan on doing this regularly if

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people like it, so send your
questions in and we will answer them.

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Excellent. So yeah, packs,
you guys are gone. Yep, Jason

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is on vacation, Alex is coming
with Alex in San Antonio with you.

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That leaves Vinnie and I as the
sole occupants of our respective office. Yeah,

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so, uh, live streamed phone
call between We're going to figure out

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stuff for Thursday and Friday. It'll
be fun. I think. I certainly

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do not intend to come into this
office by myself, so I will be

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streaming a bunch of stuff from my
house. I haven't talked to Vinny a

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whole lot yet about what will happen, but so, yeah, there will

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be no regular, regular format upf
this week, obviously. Yeah, but

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you're planning on doing some kind of
things. We will. We will come

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up with some plan. Video will
be broadcast on the internet at the appointed

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times, all right, and other
times probably, uh, And then you

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guys are back next week more or
less. Yeah, once we're back.

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Basically, I won't say any specifics, but we have several premium things tentatively

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scheduled soon after coming back. All
right. We'll stay tuned then for more

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content because that's the end of this
content. Yes, goodbye. I meet

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my roommates. Rachel is an X
ray technician by day and a volunteer at

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the dog shelter by night. Nicole
moved in last December. She's the quietest

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because she spends her evenings retouching photos. Jeremy just got a job at the

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local library, and on the weekends
he likes to hang out at the jazz

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Club downtown. And finally, this
is Adam who grew up in Phoenix.

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He works for a landscape company and
specializes in pruning large trees. They're a

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great group. They're a great group. My favorite cut is the bonus cut

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that's only in the iTunes version