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chatter. We got to get to
talk about some Tampa Bay lightning with the

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great first time guests. Right after
this, we're very pleased to welcome today

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a lady who's going to tell us
about the Tampa Bay lightning. Deandralu of

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the Hockey News, SI dot com
and NHL dot com. Deandrew, how

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you doing today? Hey guys,
I'm good. How are you? I'm

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great, I'm great, We're great. Ready to talk a little bit of

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Tampa Bay lightning. Quite a team
for you to be following. How many

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years have you been reporting on Tampa
just out of curiosity since twenty eighteen?

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Pretty good time, pretty good time
to do it. Yeah, no,

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I've seen them be to hear that. Everyone keeps talking about that. I

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don't think we'll ever let that year
go when I got swept by the Columbus

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Blue Jackets. So that was my
first year covering the team. And it's

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been a really fun road and I've
seen a lot of ups and downs and

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just the definition of resilience with these
guys. The core has somewhat remained the

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same through all of it. When
we look at guys like Sam Coos and

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Headman, all of them like they've
been there this whole time, and the

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rotating pieces have changed, but for
the most part it stayed the same and

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it's been a really fun ride.
Yeah, it's arguably it's been about ten

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years of peak lightning Headmund stand Coast
Kilorin kucherov. John Cooper all being there

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for this whole ten years. The
teams won two Cups, lost two finals,

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and made it to two more conference
finals. And this year was a

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first round out, which is unusual
except, like you say at the Columbus

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year, an excellent Toronto team though
is not a not an unfair way to

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go out. They were a very
good team, and they lost all their

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three games at home and overtime.
That probably was not a lot of fun

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to report on. Tampa had a
top three most efficient power play, which

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was conveniently paired with the most average
opponent pims per game this year at twelve

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point three. Of course, they
also took the third most penalties per game,

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which meant it wasn't always a power
play at that they were getting.

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The Bolts have had to churn their
support players a lot, and they've gone

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on to other teams. Some of
them really thrived, but it seems to

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be working. Is the Tampa Bay
Lightning still a Cup contender in this coming

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year? Gandra Oh. I think
they're absolutely a Cup contender, and I've

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seen some of my colleagues around the
league put them down there is they're not

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going to make it to the playoffs
this year. This is the year it's

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the downfall of the Lightning or I've
seen it all over and for the guys,

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I know they see that, but
they don't really pay too much attention

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to that. But for us,
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them out this year especially would be
the biggest mistake the year that just I

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hate to go back to the Columbus
year. But the year that they lost,

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they got swept, and they came
back right after that and won two

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Cups back to back. Like the
revenge tour continues. I think the biggest

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difference with this team this year is
they've had a full off season and as

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much as they did not want to
lose to Toronto, as somebody who was

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in the locker room and I was
covering the team and I was around them,

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I could see the fatigue as the
season went on. And I think

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it's just and they've said it too, but it was a blessing and disguise

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to have a full off season,
meet with their trainers, take some time

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to just relax and be with family. Especially during that COVID year it went,

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they really didn't have an off season
and they haven't in a while.

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So a well rested Lightning team going
into this season. I wouldn't underestimate them

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at all. And when you look
at the core and yeah, you look

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at the Stanley Cup and the team
that was there, and how many guys

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have left, I think there's and
I'm just throwing this number out, but

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I think it's nine guys are gone
now. From that team, but they

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just they're retooling and they keep plugging
away and getting great players. And when

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you win the Cup and you have
a really competitive team, when you have

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a cap situation like what Julian brees
Ball had to deal with this offseason,

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players still want to come play for
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to do that, and so that
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the cap increases. That's something that
they've had to rely on the area that

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they play in, their winning culture
and just a really good relationship with the

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coaches and Julian Braceball and the players
and all of that. It's appealing to

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a lot of players. So I
think the season's gonna be good for them.

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Yeah, hard to imagine it's going
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going to start talking about the forwards
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start with Nikiya Kutrov. What a
stud he is. We thought he'd be

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somewhere around the six or seventh past
forward. He was actually number twelve,

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but still really good and we expect
that the future. He played eighty two

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games for the third time in his
career. Gone are those concerns from twenty

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twenty twenty one, where he missed
the whole season, he had thirty goals

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eighty two assists for one hundred and
twelve points. That was the closest he's

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come to his MVP twenty eighteen nineteen
season, when we had one hundred twenty

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eight points. The shots are great. He actually gets a pretty decent number

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of hits and blocks as well for
a forward, and the forty nine power

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play points is just absurdly good.
He's got four years left at nine and

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a half million for those of us
in cap leagues, still pretty decent value

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for what he's doing. Defensively,
he's really not great, but that's not

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why he's out there. He's excellent
offensively, power play even strength. All

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of his number underlying numbers look really
good there. His shooting percentage was actually

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a bit low this season compared to
his career average, a few percentage points

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low, but his power play points
participation was a little high, so maybe

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that evens out and he ends up
doing similarly too before. So, Deandrew,

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do you think Kutrov maintains over that
one hundred and ten point pace again

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next season? Oh? Yeah?
And he's so funny because since they lost

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to Toronto. He's been skating,
like I think Julian Bresbass said, five

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to six days a week since that
loss. So he's been on the ice

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trying to get his mind right and
get his body right and get ready.

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And he's been there almost every single
day since the playoffs. So I think

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he's ready to go. And I
look at different areas for somebody like Kutrofs

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as far as the goal scoring goes
and what he had eighty three assists last

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year, eighty two assists, but
as far as scoring goals go, that's

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somewhere that he can make up this
season. When you lose players like Ross

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Colton or Alex klarn Like, you
have to make up for those goals somewhere,

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and the players know that, and
I'm sure Kutroff would be somebody that

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you can always bank on to focus
on that. He knows he needs to

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score a little bit more. But
yeah, that was his third career one

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hundred point season. I would expect
it to just go up from there,

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and especially knowing having a full off
season and knowing that they have to make

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up I don't want to say for
the slack, but obviously they took some

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significant losses here due to the cap, so he knows he's got to step

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up as far as that goes.
And Kutrof is he's his own breed of

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person. He's just incredible. He's
amazing to watch and I'm excited to see

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what he does this season. Radon
point ninety five points last year. It

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was a new career high for the
guy. Fifty one of those points were

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goals. That was fifth in the
NHL and ten more than his prior personal

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best. Now twenty one point seven
percent shooting ran a little bit hot for

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him, but his career rate is
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He played with Kucharov for years and
when both are healthy, both are amazing.

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We'll get to Brandon An in a
few minutes, but that threesome played

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the third most minutes together at even
strength of any line in the NHL.

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There is a heat map that I
can get off the hockeyz website where Red

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courses much better offense. Blew is
much worse offense. When point is on

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the ice, the middle of the
ice looks like somebody stepped on a bunch

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of ketchup packets. Basically, it's
just redder than red and that just represents

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the fact that when he's not on
the ice, tampus five on five offenses

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seven percent below league average, and
when he's on the ice, it's thirty

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six percent above league average, especially
in the middle when he gets himself three

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shots per game. He had exactly
two penalties this year, one slashing penalty

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and a fight with Mikey Esimont for
some reason. That was all of his

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pims last year, so he is
not a highly penalized player. He's still

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twenty seven seven more big year contracts
ahead. I don't know what there is

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to ask about this guy except over
under ninety points next year. Yeah no,

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And I love that his fight,
his one fight was Mikey A Simon

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because now McKay smont plays for the
Lightning and their teammates, so that was

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great. That was a lot of
fun to talk about as he scored his

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fiftieth goal and only one of those
the fifty one was the empty night or

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the rest. The rest are all
legit. So I think the thing with

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Brandom point and you can actually say
this with most of the players on the

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Lightning, it is they don't get
a lot of limelight they don't get a

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lot of hype. They just put
their head down, go to work and

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do what they're supposed to do.
So Brandon Point had the quietest fifty goal

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season I think of any player that
was on there, any such a great

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leader, and I've watched him take
more of a leadership role on the team.

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I think he's going to be incredible. And last year was big because

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he was coming off an injury in
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who knows, honestly, what would
have happened if he was on the ice,

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especially when you were rereading those stats
of what it's like when he's up

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there, and you think the Stanley
Cup. Finally got injured. So I

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remember talking to him last summer and
he was working really hard to rehab and

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get back out there, and he
had a great season. I look at

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Brandon Point and Kutroff and Hagel and
those are the guys that when anyone doubts

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the lightning, I just think about
who's going to be up top, and

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you're they're incredible. They're elite skaters. So same thing with Coach and Brandon

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Point. They're gonna have great seasons, and not only them. That's not

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even getting around to Stephen Standcost yet
on this team, and he's been around

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so long he had a peek before
the ten year run that I'm talking about.

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He's just an annual point per game
plus guy. Last year it was

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thirty four goals fifty assists for eighty
four points in eighty one games. Also

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three shots also hit every game,
as well as Avershamani's of nineteen o one,

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his most since twoy fifteen sixteen.
Stephen stamp Coost turns thirty four this

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season is in the final year of
a contract on a team that has been

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having to do cap gymnastics for a
couple of years now to hold it all

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together. So that's always a little
bit scary. But Stampkos is seventy fifth

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all time and scoring in the NHL, and another eighty point season should land

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him to exactly sixtieth in the all
time scoring ranks. Absolute surefire Hall of

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Famer. What explains this mid thirties
longevity out of stamp Coost and should we

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expect yet another patented Steven stamp Coost
season next year? Yeah? I could

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say a lot of great things about
stamp KOs as he's such a great leader

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on this team. But I know
that he works really hard to stay healthy

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and I was actually he was just
saying a couple of months in the off

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season that his goal is to play
for five more years. If he can

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stay healthy and do that. You
know what to expect with Stamkost. He's

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always consistent. He's also just he
is. In my opinion, he's the

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best captain in the league. I
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and I think he's so much of
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but he's so much of the reason
why the players can stay level headed and

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get to where they're at and why
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is because of guys like Steven Stamkost, because he'll pull them up get I

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don't know. He's resilient. He's
a resilient player, and I'm not worried

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about his contract. I know that's
in the works and he's very he wants

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to stay in Tampa. That's what
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that will be coming soon. We
knew the Hegel extension. I knew it

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would be the Hegel extension and then
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soon. But yeah, everyone's been
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he's always going to be right there. And I'm excited to see how he

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interacts with some of the new guys
that are coming into this dynamic, because

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when you win the Cup and you
go through these experiences together, these players

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are really bonded. They have really
great relationship, and Stammer's that guy that

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brings everybody in the loop. They
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each other, and I think that's
how he stays consistent every year. You

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mentioned Brandon Hegel. It is Brandon
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this, and I think he deserves
two pieces of cake considering the accomplishments he's

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had in his past year. Thirty
goals, thirty four assists for sixty four

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points in eighty one games, with
his first full year with the Lightning manages

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just over two shots of game something
under a hit in three quarters of a

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block. Nice peripheral stats. Honestly, I didn't know what to make of

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it. In twenty twenty one,
twenty two when Tampa traded Taylor Radish Boris

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kachukin two first rounders for Hegel and
two fourth rounders. He was coming off

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like a partial season where he scored
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shooting playing with Patrick Kane, and
it was kind of like, is he

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really all that or is this a
hot half season? But boy, they

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put Hagel mostly with Point and Kucheroff
and it wasn't exactly a depth role.

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He was six on the team in
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like you said, the contract is
done, they've doubled down. He's got

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a max eight year, six point
five million dollar year, a maximum eight

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year the most years he can get
six point five million dollars per starting after

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this coming season. An amazing commitment
for a team that otherwise is really trying

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to economize. Like we say,
what are the Bolts see here? And

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are they right? Would you guess
another sixty five ish point season from Brandon

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Hegel? Oh yeah, I think
it's only up for Hagel. It's only

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up from here. But also when
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and Nikita Kucheroff, it did take
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But when you're playing on a line
with those guys like you're pretty much set

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up for success and you play at
their level. And that's what happened with

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him. And it's so funny because
I watched him when he came on the

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team and new in the locker room
and he's just a little bit uncomfortable trying

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to find his way. Now I
watch him through this season and he's just

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He's done an incredible job and they
love him. He just meshed right in.

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Culture is really big with the Lightning. He meshed right in right away.

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And I think again, like the
environment that these guys are playing in

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really sets them up for success mentally
and physically. But one thing about the

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Lightning that I will say is they
take these guys and everyone's what I don't

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get it, but doesn't make sense
to a lot of people, is are

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they going to be good? Nobody
knows. They really rely on the development

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of their players, and Hagel Is
he's one of those guys. He stepped

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up, did what he could,
and he actually went above and beyond to

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fit in with this team. It
paid off and he wants to stay here.

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And I loved hearing what he said
about why he wanted to stay with

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the Lightning and he wants to win
the Cup, so he didn't get to

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do that with these guys. And
it's easy to forget because he's such a

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big part of this team now that
he wasn't there when they won the Stanley

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Cup. So he wants it,
and I think, especially with this contract,

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obviously that's going to motivate him to
have a really big season. So

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look out for him too. Yeah, definitely. And after those main guys,

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there's a bit of a drop off
fantasy wise. The Lightning are have

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some great top of the lineup fantasy
players and then there's a bit of a

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middle here that isn't maybe not exciting. So I'm going to pose these guys

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as a pickum. So I have
Anthony Sarelli, Connor Sherry, and Nick

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Paul. Obviously we have Sherry come
in is a little bit new. Sarelli

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has been roughly a forty point guy
for years now, so I'm not really

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sure if that's going to change much. Nick Paul has been more of like

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a thirty point guy, so a
little bit lower, but he has had

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some top of the lineup relevance here
and there. And obviously we don't know

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what's going on necessarily with Sherry because
he's new. But in Washington he had

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some decent role here and there.
He had a fifty point pace a couple

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of seasons ago, and then he's
been more like in the thirties. So

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hard to say between those two.
But between these three, who are you

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taking in terms of a point pace
and can any of them get over forty

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five. I think this upcoming season
is a big one for Nick Paul because

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when you look at goals scored for
him, he did when he came in

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at the trade deadline and they played
Toronto and Colorado and he did awesome.

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But this past year he did some
great things, but he just struggled with

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scoring goals, and so he knows
that's something that he has to work on.

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I would definitely expect him, especially
losing Klauren and Ross Colton, like,

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he knows that he has to figure
that out. He's got to score,

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he's got to shoot the puck.
He's going to be shooting the puck

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a lot more because he can't.
We can't have another season where that's not

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happening. I would expect Nick Paul
honestly to have a pretty good season as

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far as that goes, because there
was a lot of pressure on him there

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at the end to score and he
did score against Toronto. As far as

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Connor Sheery goes, again, like
you said, it is up in the

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air, I will say like he
played on the same line as Ovechkin,

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which is pretty huge, and I
know that's what the Lightning really liked about

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him. He's going to be up
there next to stamp Kost. I think

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he's going to have a good year, but it'll take an adjustment period.

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Right Like any player that comes into
a new environment, it takes them a

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bit to get adjusted. So I
don't know if right off the bat,

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if that's really going to be if
we're going to see that success from Connor

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Sherry. As far as Sarelli goes, he's consistent. We know what to

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expect, was Sarelli. I think
if you're going to go with a player,

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I would say Nick Paul would be
the one because it's crunched time on

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him. He's got that long term
contract. He didn't really score any goals

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there last year, and so he's
going to be shooting the puck more and

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the more you shoot the puck,
the more it goes in. So let's

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go with the Nick Paul is the
guy that I think out of those three,

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I like it. It's nice to
get that opinion. Of course,

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Sherry is the bigger unknown, So
if you want to take a big wild

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swing, I think Sarelli, as
you pointed out, is the one we

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know the most about and it is
probably the least likely to pop off.

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Freley's a great player, but as
far as is goals and shooting, Nick

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poulis who I would go with.
Connor Sherry. I hope that he has

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a really good season. We just
don't know he's again, it's just an

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unknown as far as that goes,
and it's going to take him a little

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bit to get adjusted. Yeah for
sure. All right, Yeah, let's

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talk about the defense now, Michael
Sergachev. It seems like we are witnessing

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a bit of a change of the
guard here at the top d in Tampa.

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Headman still getting a smidge more power
play time on ice, but Sergachev

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has fifteen more points in just three
more games than Headman. Coming into this

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season, Jesse and I thought he'd
be on the twenty four to twenty eight

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best defenseman range, and he was
actually the eleventh best, so really took

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the reins there. Ten goals,
fifty four assists for sixty four points in

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seventy two games, which is a
sixty six point pace, twenty seven power

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play points, tons of hits,
blocks and shots. Really good for those

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bash metrics twenty first at his position, seven years, eight eight and a

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half millions, it's looking like a
pretty good value already. He's definitely providing

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a ton of offense. His defensive
impacts are neutral, so that's fine.

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He really does better in the offensive
areas anyways, So what do we think

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about these two? I know,
and Fantasy it's been tough because usually you

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want the top power play defenseman,
and he and Hedman have alternated a bit,

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and sire Chef looked like he took
it and the headman took it back

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at times. What do you think
we should expect here for Sergacheff in particular

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right now in the power play?
Yeah? No, I think Sergacheff again,

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he's the thing with the lightning too. That especially when you're looking at

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something like for Fantasy, the lightning
of eight players right now under contract through

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twenty twenty six seasons, and they're
all young players. So, like you

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said, I don't want to say
changing of the guard too much, but

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you're seeing some of those younger guys
that are locked in. They got those

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big contracts and there's a lot of
pressure on them to step up as far

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as leadership goes. Sergey is one
of those guys. I think Hedman,

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especially like last year towards the end, he got pretty banged up, which

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didn't help. But Serge's really been
stepping up, taking on more of a

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leadership role, and I do think
that it's just going to go up.

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I saw him getting into his rhythm
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He was really determined and I can
only imagine what he's going to be

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like this year. They lost some
leadership on that team. He's going to

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be one of those guys that steps
up and fills in that hole. So

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as far as like what you're saying, powerplay, that's going to be on

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him. And they got a couple
of new guys on defense, so Sergi's

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going to be taking the reins there
along with Hedman, and those guys play

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off each other. So well,
let's talk more about Hedman because we need

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to take a moment to appreciate this
guy and an eighty two game pace.

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He was the fourth best defenseman in
fantasy hockey last year, and he's been

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one of the top defenseman in the
NHL for a very long time. I

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ran the numbers from Evolving Hockey over
the last ten years. Collectively, only

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Romanosi and Eric Carlson have more points
than Hedman among defensemen, and he ties

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with Carlson for the most primary assists
out of that group. On the power

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play, Headman is alone in scoring
for that ten year period in terms of

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power play points two hundred and twelve. As referenced in the Circa chev Talk.

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He wasn't alone at the top this
year. For the first time since

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twenty fourteen. Fifteen, Headman was
not the top defenseman score for the Lightning.

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Bonus points to any listeners who can
name the top score that year,

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because it blew my mind. But
of course it wasn't exactly a disaster for

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Headman. Nine goals, forty assists
for forty nine points and seventy six games

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is still amazing. Twenty second in
the NHL, and defenseman scoring over two

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shots, two blocks and a hit
mark a nice peripheral floor, but like

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you said, banged up and that
six year run of all Star teams and

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top three Norris finishes ended last year? Was it a blip for the soon

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to be thirty three year old.
Where is the mileage of fourteen years?

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And that doesn't even count all the
long playoff runs that add all kinds of

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mileage to the guy? Has that
all taken a toll? And maybe Headman's

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a been on the decline? I
think last season was again like one of

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those I feel like I've heard this
so many times as Headman on the decline?

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Is Stemco's almost done? Or the
lightning? Was this their downfall?

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And really last year was really tough
because they were coming off those back to

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back runs and then the Eastern Conference
Final and then the Stanley Cup Final,

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and it's just they were so run
down and it's natural as we age,

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we get a little more tired than
the younger guys. I think it's a

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mix of everything. Yeah, Headman
is getting a little older obviously, but

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I think part of that was just
wear and terror exhaustion and three Cup runs

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in a row. It's just really
hard to gauge that. I think this

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season. He's gonna be coming back
with the vengeance. And it's also Sergacheff

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is he's younger, he has a
lot of energy, he has a big

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contract, like he's in his peak
right now and he's going to get better.

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And Headman's just in a different phase
of his career. But I don't

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think he's on the decline. I
think he's gonna have a great season,

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and I'm sure he's been hearing what
everyone's been saying about him, so that's

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not gonna resonate well with him.
Yeah, he's great. He's an all

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around great defenseman. I will say
too. When mcdonnah left the Lightning,

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when they had to trade him,
it changed the dynamic of their defense.

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And I think ever since mcdonnah left, that's something that they've been trying to

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find their groove there on defense.
So that is another reason why Sergey really

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had to step up there. And
I'm interested to see how the defense gaels

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now. It's last season with them
putting things together and figuring out what works.

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That's where Headman steps in and he's
the leader on the defense, no

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doubt, no question. I wouldn't
say he's on the decline, But one

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day he will get there, but
we're not there yet. Yeah, those

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are definitely the top two defenseman.
Frankly some of the top defenseman in the

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NHL, but certainly the top two
on this team. Let's just throw out

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a couple again, players arbitrurely.
Put them up against one another and see

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who you like the best for the
depth defenseman. Nick Purbicks, Eric Turnak,

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Felipe A. Myers, three different
guys who've had smaller worlds. Turnachfors

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really popped up a couple of years
ago. But which one of these guys

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do you like best? From at
least a fantasy scoring perspective or anything else

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you have to say about these guys. You saw what it looks like when

405
00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:22,759
Turnak wasn't in the lineup in the
playoffs. He saw what it was like

406
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,519
when Hedman wasn't in the lineup in
the playoffs against Toronto this year as well,

407
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:30,960
because they were both banged up.
Turnach obviously was we had a head

408
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,039
injury, so he was out the
whole time. But you could see what

409
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,839
happens on defense when those guys aren't
playing. I think, as far as

410
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,680
like from a fantasy standpoint, I
think Nick Perbicks is really interesting because again

411
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:48,319
he's young, and he's gritty,
and he's fast, and he's kind of

412
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,599
on the up here for the Lightning. He watched him last year find his

413
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,359
way and it's funny when you watch
he and Radish play together. Those guys,

414
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,279
they're the young UN's fence, Darren
Radish and Nick Perbick. I would

415
00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:06,839
be interested to see what Nick Purbicks
does. Churno is taken some brutal hits

416
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,480
and had some injuries, and I'm
sure he'll have a great season, but

417
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:12,559
I would keep an eye on Nick
Purbicks. He's on the up for sure.

418
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:21,000
He's really young too, so Raddish
definitely someone to look for in cap

419
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:23,519
leagues, I would say, because
he yea not making a lot and he's

420
00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:26,720
going to be playing, so we'd
like to see that. But I'm not

421
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,799
sure that he's not going to score
a lot, but the volume per dollar

422
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,279
might be there. Yeah. We
saw at the end and the playoffs against

423
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:37,319
Toronto like he really started to find
his own there. It's a late bloomer

424
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,279
and I know that they really liked
what they saw from him and just signed

425
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:45,200
him for two more years. So
he's definitely somebody watched. But yeah,

426
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:49,720
Nick Purbicks is I think he'll just
continue to get better as well. Yeah,

427
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:55,079
definitely, And he is Taylor's older
brother if I remember quickly connection there.

428
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,519
Ye. Let's move on to the
goalies, and the Lightning gave up

429
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:03,400
the sevente ranked goals expected goals per
sixty according to Evolving Hockey two point sevent

430
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,799
two, but conceded the thirteenth actual
goals two point eight five according to NHL

431
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:14,319
dot Com. And a big reason
obviously is Andre Bossileski. What a stud

432
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:18,279
he is. He's basically been an
anchor back there for many years. And

433
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,559
yeah, he has got the big
contract, but it has been well worth

434
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:26,160
it. He's a workhorse, he
plays a lot of games, he wins

435
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,079
most of them, and in terms
of a fantasy asset, there's for a

436
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,799
long time there wasn't a question who
was better, although at this point we're

437
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,119
starting to entertain ideas about it's just
Jerkin and Sirokin, But just in terms

438
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,319
of what we're talking about here,
he was incredible. Seventeen goals save above

439
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:47,799
expected point eight six delta. Fenwick
just really strong number thirty three wins,

440
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,440
nine fifteen say percentage outperforming all of
his expected numbers. I can't imagine too

441
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,240
much changes with Fasileski. I think
there's a little bit question about the backup

442
00:29:56,279 --> 00:30:00,839
he hasn't It's been a while since
he had a really rely viable, good

443
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:04,039
backup that could play a lot of
games, which is why he's played over

444
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:07,480
sixty of the last two years.
I would imagine, do you see anything

445
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,799
changes there? Same old great stuff
from Vassilevski, volume starter, lots of

446
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:17,079
wins, good numbers, anything changing
there. I think that last year was

447
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:19,200
and he said it like it was
a really difficult season. It was hard

448
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,640
for him to push through his mind
and his body weren't connected. He was

449
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,039
just exhausted on both sides. And
he came out at the end of the

450
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:30,000
season and said, this wasn't my
normal season, like I can be so

451
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:33,160
much better, and they were just
he was exhausted, right, not an

452
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,640
excuse for them, but that's what
he said. So I think that his

453
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,440
season, he'll actually have a better
season this year. There's a lot of

454
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,400
questions as far as like the backup
goalie situation goes in Tampa, and I

455
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,079
know Coop is adamant that a goalie
should be able to play sixty games no

456
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:55,720
problem. So I know it was
interesting when Vassilevski was talking about how exhausted

457
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:57,400
he was, and I think he
said like game thirty five is when he

458
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:02,759
started to wear down meant and physically. So I am interested to see what

459
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:07,400
happens with the backup goalie situation.
I haven't heard a ton and Johansen.

460
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,319
He hasn't played a lot, He
doesn't have a lot of experience. We

461
00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:11,119
don't really have much to go on
as far as that ghost. But he's

462
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,720
young and I know that's what they
were looking for. I think Vassie's gonna

463
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,880
have a much better season this year. He's rested up. He just had

464
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:21,160
and he was banged up. He
said last year too, a lot of

465
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,079
little I don't know if injuries would
be the word, but he's just he

466
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,200
was just banged up. So I
would expect him that actually actually have a

467
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,920
better season this year. A well
rested big cat should be fun to watch.

468
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,759
Oh boy, arrested, healed,
motivated, Vassilevski is a scary thing.

469
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,720
For that is. I did want
to touch a little bit more on

470
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:47,720
the backup situation because yeah, Jonah
Johansson has not too many NHL games thirty

471
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,920
five in his career, and frankly, most of them have not been very

472
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,559
good. I definitely believe though,
that behind a much better team than he

473
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:59,039
has had in some of his stints, then maybe he can do okay.

474
00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:02,440
But he played for Colorado who was
a really good team obviously and struggled,

475
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,079
and I'm wondering how much or the
least they give him because they have Hugo

476
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:12,440
Alafeld, who has been who is
I think one of the best prospect goalies

477
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,200
around, and he previously had struggled
a little bit in the HL, and

478
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,319
so I understand why he didn't get
too many looks previously. But he was

479
00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:22,200
really good last year, seems to
be pretty close to nhlready, and I

480
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,559
almost wonder if they don't give him
ten to fifteen starts and maybe Johnson a

481
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,279
couple here and there, because all
felt almost seems like he might already be

482
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,480
similar better than Johnson. What do
you think about that option? Yeah,

483
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:38,559
I think, like I said,
there's still a lot of question and of

484
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:43,279
what's going to happen there. But
I could see that being the competition situation

485
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:45,039
between the two of them as far
as who's going to get the backup spot.

486
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,559
And yeah, like you said,
I agree with you one hundred percent.

487
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,440
The thing with the Lightning is they
they're not going to really tell us.

488
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,079
We're going to find out when we
find out. But I could definitely

489
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:59,079
see it being a situation, especially
Johannsson. They don't have a lot to

490
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:01,519
go on with and he doesn't have
a lot of NHL experience. I think

491
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:05,680
it's going to be one of those
who's going to compete for the backup and

492
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,440
who's going to get out there and
we'll see. I think they'll book get

493
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,279
a fair shot to show what they
have and we'll see who gets it.

494
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:15,759
But yeah, as long as Vassi
gets some time off to rest his body,

495
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,559
especially if they're going to make another
run, which I know that that's

496
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,799
their plan, it's going to be
whoever can step up. And you don't

497
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,759
know, because we've seen players like
what we were talking about with Hagel,

498
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:29,400
you just don't know until they get
in there, especially with the Lightning,

499
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,599
because these players get in there and
they thrive in that environment and it could

500
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:38,000
be the same for Johansson. We'll
see what happens. Premendous. Thank you

501
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:43,240
DeAndre, you brought us a lot
of information on these Tampa Bay Lightnings.

502
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:46,359
How should people out there follow your
work? Yeah, so I am covering

503
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:52,000
the Lightning for the Hockey News as
the season training camp happens in the next

504
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,240
few weeks, I'll have a lot
going on with that. But yeah,

505
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:58,960
you can follow me on my Twitter
too, which we can post when we

506
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,680
send this episode out. But the
Hockey News, I'm doing a Lightning show

507
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,480
with the Belief Network, so we'll
have a Bolts like a breakdown, a

508
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:12,119
weekly breakdown show all throughout the season. And I do a serious x NHL

509
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,320
Network radio so do a lot of
Bolts breakdowns there too, and some league

510
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,719
stuff. But kind of it's gonna
be a busy season and we're getting close.

511
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,320
I'm excited. Absolutely everybody should definitely
follow your work. And thank you

512
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,360
so much for being on the show
today. Yeah, thank you so much.

513
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:40,400
Guys Wilson, Well, that's good
fired pass goodness, got quick grab

514
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,880
Now it's your weekly goalie talk with
Kats Silverman Cats Instincts. Time for another

515
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:55,920
edition of Cat's Instincts with Cat Silverman
of Ingold mag Tampa Bay Lightning edition.

516
00:34:57,159 --> 00:35:00,480
And you might be saying, why
do we even need to talk about prospect

517
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,760
goalies because they have one of the
best in the world, but you never

518
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,960
know. These guys could get traded. Heaven forbid, Vassi gets hurt,

519
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,800
but it's always interesting to know what's
in the pipeline either way. And we're

520
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,840
going to start with Hugo alma Felt, one of my favorite guys, although

521
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,199
he's been blocked in this system.
As we said, but twenty nineteen third

522
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,360
round pick by Tampa sixty three,
twenty pound now twenty two, just finished

523
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,559
his second full season the HL and
it went much better than the first.

524
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:30,639
I think his transition when he came
over was rough. And I'm frankly very

525
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:37,320
larry of Vasileski's backup, Jonas Johansson, who has played several handfuls of NHL

526
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,679
games and most of them have gone
pretty terribly. And I think we can

527
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:45,239
all remember Calado's playoff run that came
to an end because they were forced to

528
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,760
play him, and anyways, I'm
not sure that he's long for that backup

529
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,679
role. And Hugo alna Felt has
been good, his goal save above expected

530
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:58,159
and the HL was one of the
tops in the league this year, so

531
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,480
maybe there's some potential there. Hockey
prospecting has him in the kind of thirty

532
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:07,239
to forty percent range. He looks
a little bit like Alex alda average starter,

533
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,639
but maybe there's more upside than that. Kat, what do your instincts

534
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:15,360
tell us about Hugo Alnifelt. My
instinct tells me that we're going to see

535
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:22,400
him in the NHL this year.
I Jonas Johansen, that's a choice for

536
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,880
Tampa Bay. Oh boy didn't work
in Buffalo, so we'll try it in

537
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:32,159
Tampa. Yeah. I think Hugo
Alfeldt's they He's officially at the point where

538
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:35,920
I feel like he has to play
in the NHL now. I think he's

539
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:40,079
given us enough of a sample size
that we're almost reaching like the Connor Ingram

540
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:44,559
point where if he doesn't get called
up, we may start to see a

541
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:50,440
little bit of a backslide in his
game because he's ready. He looks good

542
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,960
in the NHL, and it's not
like he'd I think the only reason they

543
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,000
wouldn't call him up is because they
like to play Vasilovski for seventy to seventy

544
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,519
five games this season. I think
at some point they have to stop doing

545
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:05,960
that, though, and it would
be really fun to see Allena Felt come

546
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:12,400
up and essentially tandem there. I
think he's It's interesting because he plays the

547
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,719
type of game that Tampa Bay likes, which is very skating heavy. It

548
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,079
really likes to say fluid. When
he's playing, he doesn't really get himself

549
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:23,599
set and then just hold himself there. But he's a lot of fun too

550
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:30,519
personality wise. If anyone is bored
and likes to like citroll YouTube, there's

551
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:35,280
a very good development camp clip where
they used to make up Connor Ingram.

552
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,159
He was like a miked up darling. They decided to do it with Hugo

553
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:44,119
Alna Felt and he basically chased Magnus
Krona around the ice, calling him Magnus

554
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:47,760
with the Humagnus five hole. So
he's a delight. He's a gym.

555
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,400
He lets things roll off his back
pretty easily. He's got good tracking instincts.

556
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:58,920
He recovers quickly. There's I don't
think he's Vasilevski, but I don't

557
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,559
think anyone in their system could be. I think that would be a disservice

558
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:07,000
to Tampa Bay to have two guys
like that fighting over the starting role.

559
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,639
Yeah, I'm curious to see if
they do bring him up to the NHL

560
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,440
this year though, because I do
think that he's at the point where they

561
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:21,239
have to do it this year,
or essentially they run the risk of potentially

562
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,920
seeing him want to leave because he's
at the point where he's put in the

563
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,639
work at the HL level. He's
shown that he, like you said,

564
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,280
is one of the best in the
AHL, and they have to reward him

565
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,480
somehow for that. That may be
why they signed someone that intentionally needs to

566
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:43,599
go to the HL instead. With
no disrespect to Jonas Johansson. So he's

567
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,239
a nice guy, but I don't
have any faith in that in him will

568
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,760
annown that role. Let's move to
the next guy I'm super high on now

569
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,800
in the field two. I would
try to get him wherever I could,

570
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,199
and in Dynasty this year because I
do think he'll play some games. The

571
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,280
next guy a mere Mythtica and he
is a twenty twenty six round pick currently

572
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,800
unsigned, six foot one hundred and
sixty five pounds now twenty three years old,

573
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,239
plays in the same system as Arter
Aktiyamav of Toronto and he's been there

574
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,719
KHL goalie and that's part of the
reason I think why aktiamoff hasn't had as

575
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:22,599
much opportunity there because he's been basically
he's split some time previously, but played

576
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:28,119
thirty four KHL games this year.
Was really good for them, and he

577
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,000
looking at his hockey prospecting, his
equivalency is super high. He's basically in

578
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:37,280
the fifties, which is really high
for a goalie. He's got equivalencis guys

579
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:43,440
like kippersof Vocoon cam Ward. I
think he looks a fair amount like Vocoon,

580
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:46,000
and he was a star starter,
and they had some other guys in

581
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:51,360
this range that are pretty good.
Alan Felt's good. Miftakoff seems like he

582
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,199
also could be a potential future starter
for the Lightning, but he did.

583
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:58,920
I think the one concerning thing is
he came to North America, played in

584
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,480
the HL last season, and then
left went back to Russia. So I

585
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:04,159
don't know if that's a concern for
you or for anyone. And the fact

586
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:07,000
that he's unsigned, they still have
his rights. But what your instincts tell

587
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:16,079
us about Amir Miftokoff, Yeah,
when he got drafted, I had been

588
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:21,440
nervous that he wasn't going to get
drafted as well because the ukbars Kazan system

589
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,679
really loves them. An undersized goalie, he actually is undersized. He's six

590
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:30,679
feet I think one sixty five.
He's so fast. He's one of the

591
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:36,239
goaltenders that when watching him skate,
I was like, Oh, this kid's

592
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:40,960
that once again just fits with that
Tampa system. That's one of the things

593
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,599
that Vasilevsky does sneaky well is just
skates so quickly. He doesn't play an

594
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,440
uncontrolled game, but he does utilize
his speed to make sure that he doesn't

595
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,239
leave pulls open, which is something
that some of the other undersized goalies that

596
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,800
we've looked at over the years really
can miss out on the either panic and

597
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,320
do too much, or they really
don't have the speed to recover if someone

598
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,599
tries to exploit one of the holes
that they inevitably leave open. The thing

599
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:13,440
that makes me a little nervous is
he loves to come out and challenge shots,

600
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:19,320
which I think in North America can
be something that you have to control

601
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,719
and rain in your game because the
game does move so quickly, essentially right

602
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,440
in and around the blue paint,
so you can't come out too far unless

603
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,880
you're Mike Smith, in which case
you like to do it anyway. But

604
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:37,800
I think his decision making looked good
when I was watching him in Russia,

605
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,519
looked like when he was playing in
North America. He did fine, but

606
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:49,199
didn't look as comfortable. It may
just be that they figured he wasn't quite

607
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,320
ready to make the jump, so
we went back to play more games in

608
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,199
the KHL. That may also mean
that he doesn't want to play in North

609
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,199
America, which is always that little
bit of a risk. But I think

610
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,920
he's a low risk hip reward player
to have in their system just because he

611
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,559
does play a good game. Best
case he comes over, plays for them,

612
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,320
could have starter potential. Worst case
if you go on a felt in

613
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,480
their system, So they're fine.
He's not their their make or break,

614
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:22,239
do or die guy. Yeah,
definitely. It definitely seems like a nice

615
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,199
extra piece to have in the in
the system. And another guy who you

616
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:31,400
might qualify as that is Nick Malik
and he was drafted by the Lightning in

617
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,199
twenty twenty two in the fifth round
as a double overager. He's six two

618
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,920
hundred and seventy nine pounds. He
is a son of defenseman Merrick Milik,

619
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,840
who scored an epic between the Lake
shootout goals. First of It's kind that

620
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,719
I remember seeing and it was awesome, especially because he had literally never scored

621
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,639
or hadn't scored that season and then
it's like round fourteen of the shootout and

622
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:57,440
anyways, very cool. So the
name is familiar and Nick has was playing

623
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,360
in Chechia during his true draft season
and Deep one and then moved to Finland

624
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:07,800
after that and his D plus two
season, finally got drafted playing for Kuku

625
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:12,599
or I guess it's Coco ko Ko. I believe it was pronounced coco and

626
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:15,880
in the league anyways, he was
really good that season. This past season

627
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,920
he progressed a little bit playing for
the same team, and his equivalence he

628
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,840
has trended down. It was much
better when he was in the Zech leagues.

629
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:28,039
Now he's inn eighteen percent range.
He actually looks somewhat like Brian Boucher,

630
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:31,880
who had that shoutout streak. Was
more of a replacement level goalie when

631
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,719
all was said and done. But
Cat, what are your instincts tell us

632
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:42,239
about Nick Malik? I liked his
game during his first draft eligible year.

633
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,000
I was surprised that he didn't get
more looks. I do know that when

634
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:50,760
he during the twenty nineteen twenty twenty
season, he came over and played with

635
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:59,199
the Sue Greyhounds in the OHL,
and he struggled with adapting his game because,

636
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,440
like I've mentioned before, the check
leagues can get a little uncontrolled,

637
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:07,159
and so those the guys that grow
up developing in the check system can really

638
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:14,119
sometimes struggle with needing to rain in
their game over a long stretch of time,

639
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,360
especially when you're playing on a smaller
ice surface where really the game moves

640
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,239
so much faster in front of you
and you can't be doing too much.

641
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:30,039
And so it looked like he really
needed more development in his overall just like

642
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:35,000
technical structure of his game. So
it's nice seeing that he left the check

643
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:39,800
leagues and is playing in Finland where
he's getting a little bit more structure to

644
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,840
his game, and where honestly,
a lot of teams have scouts and have

645
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:51,199
coaches that are hanging out. Finland's
become like a sneaky place for teams to

646
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,800
put their European prospects before they come
over to North America. We see a

647
00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,480
lot of Russian guys go there,
We see some we obviously see the Finnished

648
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:04,679
kids. We see the check kids
coming over, and so they play in

649
00:45:04,679 --> 00:45:07,400
Finland and then they come over to
North America. So it's nice seeing that

650
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,480
he's getting that transitional league. I'm
curious to see how he does this year.

651
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:15,519
I don't know what I'd liked his
game at one point, I didn't

652
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:21,400
know how well it would translate to
North America. Obviously, teams agreed because

653
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,960
they didn't draft him with their first
opportunity to do so we'll see. I

654
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,280
don't think he's I would say the
order that we have talked about each of

655
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,159
the Tampa Bay goalies is about where
I would say they fall in the ranking

656
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:42,159
for my likelihood that they would become
a pivotal piece for Tampa Bay. Awesome,

657
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:45,559
thank you so much. Okay,
forgive me us your instincts on the

658
00:45:45,599 --> 00:46:05,559
Tampa goalies. We'll be back right
after this the China fe did, Victor

659
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,519
Uco and myself back here to talk
a little bit of Tampa Bay Lightning prospects.

660
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,679
Tampa Bay has been very good for
a very long time, and even

661
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:20,239
though they always seem to get prospects
to perform above their draft slot. Nonetheless,

662
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:23,039
they are only ranked twenty six in
the NHL according to Victor's current rankings,

663
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:29,159
which take into account depth, and
yet there are some really high level

664
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:30,840
prospects here and it starts with your
no brainer. Who is it, Victor?

665
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,360
Yeah, our no brainer is Isaac
Howard, twenty twenty two first round

666
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,840
pick, thirty first overall, five
to eleven hundred, ninety pound left wing.

667
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,199
Had a bit of a rough transition
from the USNTDP, where he had

668
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,639
eighty two points and sixty games to
the NC Double A. His D zero

669
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,840
was at the University of Minnesota Duluth, and he had just seventeen points in

670
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,960
thirty five games. Primarily a goalscorer, and he only had six goals,

671
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,519
so that was tough. Next season, he's gonna make the shift. He's

672
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:02,280
gonna move over to the Michigan State, so it'll be interesting to see with

673
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:07,280
more opportunity what he can do with
that. He's still unsigned. Sophomore year

674
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:14,039
coming up, thirteen shots and sixty
sorry, thirteen shots per sixty is what

675
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,920
I saw his underlying metrics as,
but only one expected goals per sixty isn't

676
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,840
good enough, So he's going to
have to increase those underlying metrics with his

677
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:28,599
move to Michigan State to keep his
chances of being an NHL are alive and

678
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:31,440
irrelevant fantasy score. But to learn
a little bit more about him, we

679
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:39,800
have our FHL scout Jesse. That's
right, Today's today's scouting reports are provided

680
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:45,320
all by FHL scout Jacob. Great
job, Jacob doing a lot of Tampa

681
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,239
Bay Lightning scouting for us. And
here's what Jacob has to say about Isaac

682
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,079
Howard. The skating is great skater, quick strides, strong cuts, high

683
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:58,599
motor. He can zip around the
ice with ease. Puck handling great win

684
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,519
on his game. Howard and makes
some dazzling plays with the puck that can

685
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:05,960
bring fans out of their seats.
However, he has the tendency to try

686
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,039
to do too much with the puck
and that led to a lot of turnovers

687
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:14,880
last season. The creativity is there
though. The shot great again, quick

688
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,840
wrist shot good, one timer can
be a dangerous shooter from anywhere on the

689
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,679
ice. The IQ medium. Howard
is an offensive first player, so he

690
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,119
isn't afraid to find open space and
try to create chances. When it works,

691
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:30,639
it's fantastic. When it doesn't work, he tends to throw the puck

692
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:34,920
away or just gets out worked by
his opponents. Defense just average. When

693
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,679
he isn't the best defensive player,
he puts in the effort will pressure his

694
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:44,159
opponents with his stick, summing that
up. The biggest asset is the shot.

695
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:47,519
The biggest concern is the IQ.
That is, the skills can make

696
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:52,000
him an offensive player who's dangerous,
but it's going to come down to the

697
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:58,639
execution. Top outcome potential for mister
mister Howard is going to be a top

698
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:00,880
line winger. If he's able to
translate his game, he could very much

699
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:07,000
play a complimentary role to star players
like Point or Kuchara, most likely outcome

700
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,639
top six winger. If he isn't
able to translate, he could still be

701
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:15,679
a top six, solid, top
six winger with powerplay time. The stylistic

702
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,800
comparable that we're going to give here, Jacob says Nikolai Eelers and in summary,

703
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,239
an offensive winger, excellent skill,
powerful shot. Rough freshman season at

704
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:30,119
Minnesota Duluke but hopefully transferred to Michigan
State will lead to our resurgence. The

705
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:37,119
NHL rank King Mason Black has given
us a verdict on how mister Howard does

706
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,159
according to the p NHL E model. He is declined at this point,

707
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,719
but he is top comparable is Tyler
Sagan, and then Keeper Bellows and then

708
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:54,039
Nathan Horton. That's his third highest
comparable there, So that's interesting. Tyler

709
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:59,079
Sagan is the number one, and
yet somehow he's dipped below second line potential

710
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:04,239
in this the third year of the
score that we have Isaac Howard. Then

711
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,280
again, he was drafted last year, number thirty one. In terms of

712
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:13,239
a comparison, Charlie Strammell from the
University of Wisconsin, who was drafted by

713
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,079
the Minnesota Wild will be his comp
for the competition. The vote that goes

714
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:21,800
out there on Twitter and which one
of these two would you rather have in

715
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,440
your team? Isaac Howard in a
landslide sixty eight to thirty two, basically

716
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:30,000
over Charlie Strammell. Is that how
you see this one going? Victor?

717
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:34,920
Yeah, I guess. So it's
funny because I know Mason is really high

718
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:40,800
on Strammell, so this poll probably
made him sad. But he Howard had

719
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,679
a really rough year, and I
think it's quite possible that he bounces up

720
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,639
quite a bit with his move to
Michigan State, but it still remains to

721
00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:52,960
be seen. So if I think
he still has that first line potential.

722
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,039
It was just an off year.
He needs to figure some things out with

723
00:50:55,119 --> 00:51:00,199
his game and how he plays.
I think he can do it. Raym

724
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,320
We've talked a lot about on the
draft shows, and he's someone who coming

725
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,000
into the year was ranked really highly, had a good d minus one year

726
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,360
and just really didn't have a good
draft season at the University of Wisconsin,

727
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:17,599
and Wisconsin should be better next season
and should have more organization, more more

728
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,880
organized systems and play, so that'll
probably help Strayml. He's someone who can

729
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:27,559
probably turn it around. So I
guess whether you want someone who's a little

730
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:30,039
farther away and hasn't quite proved it
or someone who kind of tip dipped down.

731
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:35,440
Either way, these guys both have
question marks as prospects. I think

732
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,519
based on Howard's game being more of
a score, if he can figure that

733
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:43,000
out, he's someone I'm more interested
in, so I would take him here.

734
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:46,599
I do think there's some interest for
Straymal, but personally I am definitely

735
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:52,719
more interested in Howard overall. I
do like that the Wild took stray Mole.

736
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,559
Maybe they see something in him that
other people haven't, and they tend

737
00:51:55,559 --> 00:52:00,000
to draft really well, so that
always makes me reconsidered it a little bit.

738
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,199
But I'm taking Howard. If you
look at their hockey prospecting, Howard

739
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,440
started at forty percent chance of being
a star and went all the way down

740
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,800
to just twelve percent this year.
That could very easily pop back up with

741
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,400
a strong ncuba A season. Next
season, Stream will came in a just

742
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,920
nine percent chance of being a star
due to his poor draft season, so

743
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,039
we'll have to see where that goes. Looking at Howard, some of his

744
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:25,599
other comps, guys like Ben Meyers
who's a tweter NHL R, Carl Soderberg

745
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:30,000
one guy I think he looks.
He looked a fair amount like is Logan

746
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:37,280
cature and the Calture trended down in
his star potential, and currently Howard is

747
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,360
a little bit lower than that.
But if you correct for some of the

748
00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:44,920
poor nc double A season, it's
possible that he could be in that range.

749
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,480
So that's where I would lean like
he could be that sixty to seventy

750
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:51,840
point guy if he figures it out, which is where I think Calture lands

751
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,400
most of the time. In the
top down hockey model. As a Coward

752
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,760
seven percent chance of being a star
just nine percent chance of being in full

753
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,599
and HLA, which is pretty disappointing, especially all of this being said about

754
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:10,960
your no brainer prospect, Jessie,
Yeah, that'd a real great sign.

755
00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:16,800
But let's try again. Who's the
need to know prospect? So this guy

756
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:22,000
definitely a little less known. Hopefully
it'll be helpful for people. Jason Shuga

757
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,719
Bay is a twenty twenty three fourth
round pick by the Lightning. He's a

758
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,599
five ft nine hundred and sixty eight
pounds center. He's an April birthday,

759
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,159
so there might be some room to
grow physically here. He played both Minnesota

760
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,559
High school circuit and for the Green
Bay Gamblers of the USHL. Thirty three

761
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:44,679
goals sixty three assists in thirty one
games for the Minnesota high school that he

762
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,519
went to, and that's good for
almost three points per game. It was

763
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,159
Wirad High School. I guess probably
saying that wrong, But then in the

764
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:58,719
USHL had three goals thirteen assists in
twenty seven games. Really not bad USHL

765
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,599
production for such a young guy,
especially being a bit smaller in that league.

766
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:07,119
He will be at Minnesota Duluth for
his freshman season of the NC Double

767
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:13,119
A and he was Minnesota Mister Hockey
this past year, which is the interesting

768
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:16,199
award that they give to the top
Minnesota hockey player, usually a high school

769
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:22,400
player. Some interesting previous winners Jack
Pert who's a defenseman, Blake Beyondi.

770
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,920
Both these guys are wild prospects.
In fact, a lot of these guys

771
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:30,920
spend time in the Minnesota organization.
Other interesting guys Casey Middlestad, Nick Buke's

772
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:36,920
dad, Nick Letty, Ryan McDonough
so some varied interest of fantasy names there,

773
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:40,679
most of them not terribly interesting except
mcdonna and Letty definitely had their time.

774
00:54:42,519 --> 00:54:46,000
Anyways, back to Hugo Bay.
His Mitch Brown tracking data based on

775
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:52,079
seven USHL games not great. Actually, his overall is just at fifty three.

776
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:57,199
Defensively, it's pretty bad. He's
in the twenty seventh percentile, so

777
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,920
really not good there, especially with
his retrievals and defensive play. A lot

778
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,679
of his transition numbers are actually poor
too. It's really an interesting mixed bag

779
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,119
there. Some things are really good, like controlled entries and entries per sixty,

780
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,039
but then some of his things like
cross lane plays and transition success controlled

781
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:19,480
exits are really poor. So defensively
in transition or sorry transition wise a mixed

782
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,000
bag offensively, though, his expected
goals and expected primary assists are both pretty

783
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:29,079
good, about half a standard deviation
above the means, so just barely in

784
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:32,480
that top half. Not terribly exciting, but we need to hear a little

785
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,000
bit more about our need to know
from our FHL scout Jesse, Yes,

786
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:43,679
Sir, back to Jacob to talk
about sugar Bay. The skating average decent

787
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,440
skater with good strides moving up the
ice, but very average piece of play.

788
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:52,920
Puck handling, great flashy puck skills
that draw attention to himself allow him

789
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,599
to create open passing lanes for his
linemates. He's not afraid to dig his

790
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,880
way around defenders. The shot good. While he doesn't always shoot the puck.

791
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:04,559
He has a quick wrist shot and
a solid one timer. Tends to

792
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:08,800
get pucks off quickly to surprise goaltenders. The IQ not so good. Low.

793
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:13,639
He loves to drive plays so he
doesn't necessarily panic one under pressure,

794
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:17,119
but sometimes gets outworked due to his
smaller size. Other than that, excellent

795
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:22,119
sense for the game, knows exactly
what plays to make. Defense below average.

796
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:25,719
He is simply an offensive player and
doesn't display any high end defense.

797
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,639
He'll use a stick to try to
take away shooting lanes, but typically waits

798
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:35,000
for the puck to come to him, so the best asset here puck skills.

799
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:38,000
The biggest concern defensive games. The
offensive skill set to make him a

800
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:43,440
dangerous playmaker, he needs to work
on his acceleration speed win in transition,

801
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:46,800
plus he needs to put in the
work defensively. The top tier potential here

802
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,360
he could still be at top six
forward according to Jacob. Best case scenario

803
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,320
if all of his all around game
translates, he improves the skating to become

804
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,719
an excellent playmaker on the top six
with top line power play. The most

805
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,280
likely outcome middle sixth forward. Worst
case scenario, he becomes a middle sixth

806
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,679
forward with some power playtime. The
stylistic comparable we're going with Johnny Goodreaux here

807
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:14,719
from Jacob and in summary, an
excellent playmaker is Shuga Bay with fantastic puck

808
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,920
skills and a high hockey sense.
Likes to drive plays to draw attention to

809
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,800
himself, which opens up the ice
for scoring chances for his linemates. The

810
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:28,920
NHL rank King Mason Black is coming
in and we don't have a whole lot

811
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,960
of data for Jason Shugo Bay,
but we're going to say that Brad Malone,

812
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:37,440
Trent Frederick, and Andrew Kopp are
relatively high comparisons for him, but

813
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:40,760
it's really very early to try to
tell anything. And Suga Bay we're going

814
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:46,360
to compare in the poll to Jimmy
Clark, who has drafted four rounds later

815
00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:52,079
than Miss Sugar Bay in this year's
draft by the Minnesota Wild And in the

816
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:57,880
poll it comes out very decisively in
favor of Shugo Bay over Jimmy Clark,

817
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,400
sixty eight point six percent to thirty
one point four victor. Is that vote

818
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:07,519
correct on the assessment of these two
players relative to one another. I don't

819
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:10,119
know if it's correct, but that's
what I would agree with. I think

820
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:15,840
that Chuckle Bay. I mean,
they're both interesting and that they are.

821
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:22,920
They're both yeah Minnesota players, and
they both had a low ISSH equivalency.

822
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:29,280
They're both later round picks, although
Clark much lower the PNHL. Yeah,

823
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,280
it's similar for the two, but
in terms of the hockey prospecting, Shugo

824
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,079
Bay is much much higher. So
I think based on that, I think

825
00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:40,440
it's pretty clear I would take him, although Jimmy Clark not a small guy,

826
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:44,880
so you have the small guy thing
working against for Jason Shuga Bay.

827
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,239
But I definitely would take him because
if he can figure it out in the

828
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:52,199
offense pops in college then and if
it translates and he can be a much

829
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:57,360
more interesting prospect than Clark, which
I'm not sure based on his production.

830
00:58:58,199 --> 00:59:01,119
Seems like he's more a depth piece, so we'll have to wait and see

831
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:06,679
about that. It's interesting I pulled
up this comp for Shruggle Bay. He

832
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:10,800
has one of the comps that's probably
most accurate or most apt is Tyler Johnson,

833
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,119
who's also really small. He's actually
an inch smaller than Shuckle Bay is

834
00:59:15,159 --> 00:59:19,599
five eight, and we all know
that tay Joe had really was able to

835
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:23,719
translate his game to the professional ranks
pretty well. Shuga Bay has twenty eight

836
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,719
percent chance of being a star.
Tyler Johnson started out at eighteen. Of

837
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,760
course, he started in the A
I believe that's a JHL, and then

838
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:36,599
he went to the WHL and his
kind of equivalence. He went trended down

839
00:59:36,639 --> 00:59:38,480
from there, but he ended up
obviously doing pretty well with that. So

840
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:43,400
that's basically where shruggle bay is,
so I would definitely take him. I

841
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,880
think that he has more upside and
if he fails to translate into college,

842
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,480
then you know, you can just
drop him. You don't need to hang

843
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:53,039
on to him. Very good victor. One more who's to keep your eye

844
00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:59,800
on, prospect keep your eye on
for the Tampa Bay Lightning is Ethan Gautier

845
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:05,719
and he is the twenty twenty three
second round pick by Tampa thirty seventh overall,

846
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,880
six foot, one hundred and eighty
three pounds was in the qm JHL.

847
01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:15,039
This season for Sherbrooke. Wasn't the
best season for the q just in

848
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:19,320
general, not too many super high
end guys, but he had thirty nine

849
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,320
points in sixty five games in his
d minus one that he increased to sixty

850
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:27,519
nine points in sixty six games in
his draft season, so increased that by

851
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:30,199
quite a bit, which you always
like to see. And yeah, thirty

852
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:37,400
goals thirty nasis pretty great stuff for
Sherbrooke. And he was traded to Drummondville

853
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:40,239
this offseason, so he will be
with them next season. He's got at

854
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:45,360
least two more years in the que
Based on his birth year, so birthday

855
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:51,119
had currently unsigned still and will definitely
be curious to see how he progresses this

856
01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:54,119
next year with his time in Sherbrooke. Based on Mitch Brown's tracking data,

857
01:00:54,199 --> 01:00:58,880
overall, he came in at a
ninety three percent tile, which is really

858
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,159
good. His d defense was pretty
good, you know, off seventy fourth

859
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:07,280
percentile. His transition game also overall
really good, but his offense was the

860
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:13,960
best ninety first percentile, and his
expected goals per sixty and expected primary assists

861
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,679
both really good and that's really you
love to see that. He also had

862
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:23,519
some really nice translatable features like off
puck assist per sixty, expected primary point

863
01:01:23,559 --> 01:01:27,920
involvement, all those things look really
good. And yeah, we got a

864
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,280
shout out Jacob who stepped in and
really helped us out with some of these

865
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:36,320
reports. And I should also mention
that Jacob goes by future Bolts on Twitter,

866
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,880
so if you want to read all
about Bolt prospects, you can check

867
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:44,559
him out there. But also we
need to hear a little bit more about

868
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:50,079
Ethan Gotier right now from our Fahl
scout Jesse Yep and Jacob says this about

869
01:01:50,119 --> 01:01:54,239
Gotier, the skating a little below
average high motor that makes him relentless checker,

870
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,840
but really needs work on his strides
and top end speed. Puck handling

871
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,480
is great, excellent puck skills with
great awareness to create scoring chances for himself

872
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:07,360
in linemates. Shot is good,
has a quick release off his blade,

873
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,159
scores a lot of his goals by
going to the front of the net for

874
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:15,519
tips or rebounds. The IQ the
panic meter relatively low, very little panic

875
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:22,360
in his game, but shows excellent
patients with and without the puck. Defense,

876
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,719
excellent, high work ethic, relentless
checking, plays hard along the boards

877
01:02:25,719 --> 01:02:30,679
and wins puck battles. Loves to
pressure his opponents to force turnovers, so

878
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:35,960
the best asset for him defense and
work ethic. The biggest concern is the

879
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,719
skating. Actually, he's got the
style of game that can make him a

880
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,360
legit NHL player, but it's going
to come down to speed. He's got

881
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,119
the pace and the work ethic,
so Jacob Leese is not going to be

882
01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:51,119
too much of an issue. The
top tier outcome for mister Gautier a top

883
01:02:51,159 --> 01:02:55,039
six winger. Best case scenario figures
out the skating translates the offensive game and

884
01:02:55,159 --> 01:03:01,199
becomes incredibly reliable top six winger with
time on both special teams units most likely

885
01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:06,719
tier middle to bottom six. Worst
case scenario, he becomes a reliable middle

886
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:12,840
to bottom six winger with defensive responsibilities. The stylistic comparable. Oh boy,

887
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,119
here's Brady Kachuk. You know what
that means. We're gonna get some bash

888
01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:19,400
out of this guy. A skill
two ay forward with a high work ethic

889
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:24,159
and solid puck skills. The NHL
rank King says this about the p NHL

890
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:29,320
E and mister got is trending up. Just to bet he's a little bit

891
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,920
above second line potential in the model. Now, Brendan Gaunce, Brad Richardson,

892
01:03:34,039 --> 01:03:38,920
Brendan Leipzig are the top comparables in
terms of a statistical translation. So

893
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:44,400
we're gonna put him up against Cohen
Zimmer in terms of a matchup, and

894
01:03:44,679 --> 01:03:49,440
Zimmer, of course was drafted.
Boy was drafted much later than Gautier was

895
01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:53,280
in this year's draft, almost the
twice as late thirty seven versus pick seventy

896
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:59,360
eight, and the people out on
Twitter did side with the draft knicks who

897
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,000
took before fifty five to forty four
for Gautier over Ziemer. Is that how

898
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:09,880
you see this matching up? Pictor
That's definitely not how I had it in

899
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:15,960
my rankings, So I guess no, I guess not. I understand picking

900
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,559
based on the draft position, and
we just had the draft. Gautier going

901
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:25,079
much earlier is obviously gonna make him
look a little bit more enticing, I

902
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:29,840
would say. But I had Gautier
ranked as thirty fourth, and he went

903
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,280
right around there in the real draft
thirty seventh. But Zeemur or fantasy perspective,

904
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,360
is much higher. I had him
number eighteen. There's definitely more of

905
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:43,920
growth that needs to happen in Ziemer's
game to be an NHLer, I would

906
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,239
say, than Gotier's in terms of
the offense and what you want out of

907
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,039
fantasy. Seas said, this is
a classic philosophical question, Jesse, because

908
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:55,039
I would rather just take Zeemer and
if he ends up not progressing and the

909
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:58,920
t and the offense doesn't really translate
as he continues to develop, then you

910
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:03,440
just drop him, whereas he is
more likely to be an NHLer. But

911
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,480
if he does make it, I
think he's more likely to be a middle

912
01:05:06,639 --> 01:05:10,719
to bottom sixer. And then you're
like, Okay, is I held onto

913
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,800
him this whole time and I'm not
super excited, So I would rather just

914
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,440
be disappointed and drop someone then hold
on to the end and be disappointed.

915
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,719
It's like, when do you want
your disappointment to be? I would rather

916
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,599
be earlier so that I can get
out from under him and move on to

917
01:05:24,719 --> 01:05:27,760
something else. That's the way I
think of it right now. The hockey

918
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,400
prospecting between the two is much much
higher for Zeemer forty percent chance of being

919
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,719
a star to fifteen, and that's
based on their WHL production, which was

920
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:40,599
much higher for Zeemer, and the
nhller likelihood is actually much higher at this

921
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:45,519
point. You look at Gautier and
he's got some pretty pedestrian comps. I

922
01:05:45,519 --> 01:05:49,199
would say one of the ones that
I think looks most appropriate is Kelly jan

923
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:55,199
Kroc and Kelly jan Krok pretty average
producer, not anything too exciting, but

924
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,559
based on deployment, could be interesting. And I think that's pretty much what

925
01:05:59,639 --> 01:06:02,280
it comes down to, is with
the right deployment, he could be interesting.

926
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:08,119
But overall, Gatier probably isn't going
to be all that exciting, So

927
01:06:08,679 --> 01:06:11,760
you have to keep all that in
mind when you're, you know, considering

928
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,800
these two. But yeah, I
think it's pretty clear to me and I

929
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,760
think you have to think about how
you want your want to structure your pools.

930
01:06:20,239 --> 01:06:25,639
But in terms of the top down
hockey model, Gotier just two percent

931
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,599
chance of being a star, six
percent chance of being an NHL or so.

932
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,239
The numbers don't really back it up
too much for Gautier either. But

933
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:39,159
anyways, this system obviously is a
little bit on the downswing because their ANHL

934
01:06:39,199 --> 01:06:42,199
team is still good, but they
did get a couple of decent picks this

935
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,599
year to flesh things out a little
bit. Thanks again to Jacob. Definitely

936
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:49,280
check out his stuff on future Bolts
and Jesse. There are more guys we

937
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,960
could talk about. None of them
are terribly exciting, but they do have

938
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:55,840
other players, And if you're a
patron, you can listen to my top

939
01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:00,800
ten list recap on Patreon and if
you're interested in doing some scouting with us,

940
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,559
shoot me a dam on Twitter,
discord or email. Last be right

941
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:18,880
back to close out of the Shelf
stopy. If you've heard this before,

942
01:07:19,559 --> 01:07:24,599
Fantraks is a pretty cool place to
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943
01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:29,679
Fantraks podcast network and fantracks dot com
is a place you can play like ten

944
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,280
different fantasy sports. You can move
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945
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:38,920
can. Basically it's the place to
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946
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,519
Why not. They got the most
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947
01:07:42,639 --> 01:07:47,119
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948
01:07:47,239 --> 01:07:50,599
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949
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:56,119
access to even more crazy features that
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give it a try. It is
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where they still have a good chat
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952
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play with, so do that.
Fantrak's HQ has got a lot of fantasy

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of podcasts about baseball, including the
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961
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973
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974
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