1 00:00:10,359 --> 00:00:15,640 Every one of their own right gator from a morn right test Operations restrict area 2 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:19,960 two fives are away a thirty one roger. The traffick is white, moment 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,719 at cented to gibbing some novelistic module of them Roger areas thirty one continue to 4 00:00:23,719 --> 00:00:27,199 sign a to your dis question of them. Okay, the trafficks approaching head 5 00:00:27,239 --> 00:00:32,479 on older right and really movie right right now. There are a thousand UFO 6 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,759 sightings reported around the world every month. Ninety percent of these sightings can be 7 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,439 explained, but ten percent cannot. Officially and unofficially, the US military has 8 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:47,240 been investigating UFOs since nineteen forty seven. Their top secret goal is to find 9 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:53,840 out what's behind these unexplained sightings. The Pentagon classifies them as unusual airborne anomalies, 10 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:58,640 but a better term is X files. Join us now as Mac one 11 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:03,760 one and Commander co explore these unsolved cases UFO incidents that daffle even the US 12 00:01:03,879 --> 00:01:11,359 military. This is Mac Maloney's Military X files and now here's Mac mloney. 13 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,519 Well, good evening here one, and welcome to Macmlony's milit Tracks now show 14 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:17,680 here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is Mac maloney want his show 15 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,280 we have for you tonight. Before us, let me introduce the members of 16 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,439 the Posse girls. Getting ready, sit your cells down, start standing yourself, 17 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,159 get your big box of clinics, big box of wife squeegee, Andy 18 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:30,799 Lou, because the very famous one one is here. Hello girls, Hello 19 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,560 ladies, Welcome to the show. Matt, good to see you, Glad 20 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:38,079 to be here as always. How are you doing? Okay? What's going 21 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,359 on across the bottle? Well, across the pond? Here we had the 22 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:51,000 Women's World Cup soccer girls and unfortunately they lost to Spain one. No, 23 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:56,920 this is the the English team. The English women are called the Lionesses and 24 00:01:56,959 --> 00:02:00,719 they were awesome making it to the World Cop. It's like the World Series 25 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,680 of soccer for any any sex, male or female, and they made it 26 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,199 all the way. It was a tough loss, and there was a a 27 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:16,280 women's soccer player. Should call it football because that's what they call it. 28 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:23,479 The Spanish team and her last name was Paradiso. There's a there's a guy 29 00:02:23,479 --> 00:02:25,680 who plays for the Pittsburg Pirates. His name is Paradis. That's right. 30 00:02:25,759 --> 00:02:30,319 Yeah, anyway, women's soccer, even the crickets went to sleep on that 31 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:38,159 one. So what was it? Was it really exciting played the ship of 32 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,159 any sporting event. Yeah, that's crazy, man, it was crazy up 33 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:46,639 sport, it really is. It didn't some woman get kissed by him by 34 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:52,319 the big big shot of the league when they won the mouth of the mouth? 35 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:58,719 Yeah, ball federation side and we think any one side plays this big 36 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,120 liplock on this on this poor player who wasn't expecting it. He apologized, 37 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:07,800 but nobody accepted the apology. There's going to be an investigation. There's a 38 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,159 little fuffle on it said, wow, the pictures weren't viral. On that 39 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,879 is this? I get interest the rest of the game. But let me 40 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:20,879 just say this. Someonee said, soccer will never go be popular in America 41 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,719 because you can't handle the ball with your hands. That's you know what I 42 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:28,240 mean. You can't touch the ball with your hands, and so it's it's 43 00:03:28,439 --> 00:03:32,759 it's I think it's a pretty boring spot. I'm sorry. It is no 44 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,599 Coco tonight. I'll saving the world from soccer. Possibly, Oh, I'll 45 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:40,639 possibly trying and training Chinese pilots. That room was still floating around up there, 46 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:46,919 but on National correspondent switch Place, Steve wat is here, switchy and 47 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,439 it is great to be here tonight. I asked him, well, how 48 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,639 how are you doing? I am beyond wonderful, I asked him when he 49 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,520 came on video if he had got a hircut. Don't think we're a little 50 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,000 swaved and I little more suave than usual. You know the secret? Ice 51 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:10,680 tell us switching which secret? Took a shower? Took a shower. That's 52 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,879 all it takes. Also with us up there in our favorite good witch, 53 00:04:15,959 --> 00:04:20,040 raven is with those raven I, my friends, thank you so much for 54 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,560 having me. We're all commenting. We're all looking at your head. Tho. 55 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,639 It's a week to week thing, seeing how it's progressing. Are you 56 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:36,199 liking it better than you did a month ago? No? No, another 57 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,120 week, another week okay, yep, check back next week. Okay. 58 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:45,000 So anyway, so it's a very sensitive thing, you know it must be. 59 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:46,800 Yeah, but to my wife too, very sensive. It's like having 60 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,000 a big zip in your cheek. You know, you don't get used to 61 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,279 it. I wouldn't put it quite like that. But it's getting better, 62 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,399 and I'm sorry for this like it so I for this gazinta. But also 63 00:04:58,439 --> 00:05:00,600 with us in the studio, there is you have oma alan al though, 64 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:08,319 oh mack, hello everyone, it's a joke. What's happening with Yeah, 65 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,120 alright, No, nothing's happened. How are the bees? Bees are looking 66 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,000 really busy. There a lot of activity. I see a lot of pollen 67 00:05:17,079 --> 00:05:25,439 coming in. I haven't really smelled the like they haven't gone after the golden 68 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:29,480 rod yet because as soon as they go after golden rod, the hive stinks. 69 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,439 Oh really yeah, and uh, I haven't really caught huntry. You 70 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:35,319 walked by the hive. Sometimes the breeze is just right and you can smell 71 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,279 the sweet. Ye. No, that's why I swear to god bears. 72 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,439 You know they say they have no an incredible sense of smell. So you 73 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:45,040 know, you're a couple hundred feet away from the hive and if a very 74 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,160 light breeze comes your away, well you get the whiff of real sweet, 75 00:05:48,399 --> 00:05:51,800 like a big and smell stuff like so no one in the home right in 76 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:55,360 on it. But if they've gotten in a golden rod, it smells like 77 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,759 dirty socks. So it's not really it's not a good smell. It's really 78 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:02,600 nasty. And most people wouldn't put that unable of your honey. Most people 79 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:08,480 that like start beekeeping. They don't realize this. So if their bees get 80 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,519 into golden rod, they'll walk by the hive one day and go, oh 81 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:12,800 my god, it smells disgusting. There's got to be something wrong in there. 82 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,800 There's you know, foul brood, or there's just some kind of you 83 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,120 know, sickness or illness in the hive. But once they cure it, 84 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,839 and once they do everything with it, you'd never know. It's it's tasting, 85 00:06:21,879 --> 00:06:27,160 smells fine, but while it's processing, it really does not smell good. 86 00:06:27,879 --> 00:06:30,879 It is amazing what they do. It is you're listening to men, 87 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:35,920 it would bees on TVs. So anyway, I think we should just go 88 00:06:35,959 --> 00:06:42,519 ahead and make this a beekeeping. You know, it's a big deal here 89 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,120 in the UK because of the focus on pollinators, whether they be bees or 90 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,360 butterflies. Butterflies also it begins. If it begins with a bee, we're 91 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:59,000 all for it. HEAs and butterflies. But well, the other day and 92 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:01,079 well it was I shake some a weeks ago because I hear it on the 93 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,040 last show. I said, we had a big bee problem over there, 94 00:07:04,399 --> 00:07:08,879 big one big, big weeks ago. He sends me a video and he's 95 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,160 standing there and he's what was that one of the cells on the in the 96 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,959 well. One of the hive swarms, so you could you couldn't see him 97 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:17,079 for all the bees, and they're like in a twin end. It was 98 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,639 really And then they all landed on a big juniper and I went over. 99 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:25,800 I sued it up and went over and I just chopped the branch off and 100 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:30,720 carried it over to an empty hive and just dumped him all very unceremoniously dumped 101 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:32,399 him into the hive and covered it up and said, well, if the 102 00:07:32,439 --> 00:07:35,319 queen's in there, they're going to stay. So then like a week later 103 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:39,759 they did it again, right, yeah, another and this one they didn't 104 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,199 go. They didn't do with the favor of doing it on a branch. 105 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:45,519 They went on my post and rail fence. So they were they were like 106 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,199 twenty thousand bees drooping off the rail and I'm like, okay, I can't 107 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,519 just bang that and shake him off into the hive. So I went in 108 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,759 and Sue had a bushel basket that she uses in her gardening, so I 109 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:00,879 grabbed his bushel basket. I sued up, I walk over and I put 110 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:07,240 it on the bottom rail and I just started scooping them into the basket. 111 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:09,879 Did you let me ask this? Did you see a UFO? I thought 112 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,160 I saw God for a minute, because they were they were, but I'm 113 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:16,759 walking away with an entire bushel basket full of bees and the renters in the 114 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:20,920 houses nearby and they're looking and it all went back in the house because they're 115 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:22,360 like, we want no part of this. At the beginning of a horror 116 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:26,000 where are we living? Yeah? What's with this guy? Was crazy? 117 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,800 But yeah, I walked up the driveway with a bushel basket with about four 118 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,840 or five pounds of bees in it. It was It was very interesting picture 119 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,480 any different of me walking down your driveway with an eight foot Christmas tree if 120 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:43,200 you know what I mean? And you say any I mean, don't drag 121 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,480 it, don't I got that one. Yeah, just another day on. 122 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,039 So anyway, So coming up later on, I was a good friend Matt 123 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,559 Mallie is gonna be driving us rock staff retired rock staff from the Counting Crows, 124 00:08:56,879 --> 00:09:01,279 but very much into UFOs and the parents, normal and stuff. I 125 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,240 was good trying to talk to him and Switch has a report coming up, 126 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:11,679 And what I was gonna say is that we mcmlomey's Military ex Style show. 127 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,720 I'm going to be appearing at the Exeter, New Hampshire UFO Festival this Laby 128 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:20,080 Day weekend, so it was probably right around the time you hear the show. 129 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,639 Great, it's a great take. If you're in the area, just 130 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:26,720 get out and see what's going on in Exeter on this weekend. Evin was 131 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:28,960 like in the UFOs and there's a lot of there are people like people walk 132 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,799 around like men in black and stuff, and all the restaurants have UFO burgers 133 00:09:33,799 --> 00:09:37,120 and stuff. The time really gets into it. It's a nice little place 134 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:41,919 and we're gonna be wrapping up. Yeah yeah, everything. The whole town 135 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,600 really goes all out. Yeah yeah. It's funny and very well supported. 136 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:52,080 We're going to close the show close. We'll be on Sunday from three to 137 00:09:52,159 --> 00:09:58,759 five and we're going to be joined by jan One and hopefully Raven on Zoom 138 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,840 right guys, Hopefully that'll be fun. And what I was thinking on the 139 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,799 way up here, and it's probably too late to think it now, but 140 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:09,799 if we had had a little more time, it would have been funny to 141 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:13,559 just do the show, you know what I mean, Just do the show 142 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:20,320 because our friend Brian Eno. Not Brianino is going to He's not He's always 143 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:22,399 up there, he always does his show, you know, and they're not 144 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,480 there this year. So it would have been funny to do the show, 145 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:28,399 but I don't think we have enough time to to work that out. But 146 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:35,840 anyway, we're gonna be presenting. Our presentation is Aliens, Asteroids and AI 147 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,799 three things that will end the world. Okay, so we're going to end 148 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:43,759 the show on a high note. I'm telling you know one of these three 149 00:10:43,799 --> 00:10:48,039 things and things are gonna end life under Earth. Okay. So that's the 150 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Exeter UFO Festival. You get your tickets. I think you can pay it 151 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,320 to do. It's always a big crowd, always a very enthusiastic, attentive 152 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,519 crowd, so we're looking forward to it. It'll be food out there, 153 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:03,639 and there's always food, Yeah, there's always. There's always lots of stuff 154 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,559 going on. There's even a trolley you can sign up for. It will 155 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:13,159 take you to where the famed incident, Exeter accident. And I can imagine 156 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,919 the people who owned the house, you know, every Labor day, weekend 157 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:18,559 they got to sit there and watch these tour busters come every half hour or 158 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:24,279 so and people pointed their backyard and say that's where the spacecraft landed, and 159 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:30,559 that's that's probably getting a big you know, you know anyway, but talking 160 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:31,799 about the pot of the world. First of all, let me go to 161 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:37,159 switch. Okay, he looks like he had a healthy breakfast this morning. 162 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:41,200 Switch once again, shout out to your special effects there, which is moth 163 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:43,720 me. I'm looking over your shoulder. Looks we had every week we see 164 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:46,600 it. Yeah, his name is Norbert. Yeah, just hired him, 165 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:54,960 Norbert Norbert. Yeah, here's someone that shakes the blanket and back here the 166 00:11:54,039 --> 00:12:00,279 second time tonight. So it would be the cats back there, chicken, 167 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,679 What you don't put those cats over? I was I was doing a podcast 168 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,559 one time, Yes, and they were climbing up the Really, that's creepy. 169 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,559 So we can claim anything. Cats can climb anything. Yeah, right, 170 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,679 it's getting back down that sometimes a problem. Switchy, What did you 171 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:22,159 have for breakfast today? I went to Tutor's Biscuit World this morning. Yes, 172 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:26,879 I had the Big Tater Dictator is a bunch of diced potatoes smeared with 173 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:33,679 gravy, scrambled eggs and bacon and hot black office and a biscuit on the 174 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,480 side. Yes, that place is amazing. Every time we talk about it, 175 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,720 I just started drooling them when I gotta find this place tips Right, 176 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:41,600 if I was in the US, i'd be doing a road trip out there. 177 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:43,840 You no, no, they don't know. No tip cups, no, 178 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,159 no provisions. They give the ladies a little extra for their service. 179 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:54,200 Wow. Wow, maybe they take it the currency you know. We don't 180 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,919 know. I don't know. Occur I thought I had the big tater ones, 181 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,679 but it turned out it wasn't too much. It could have been a 182 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:09,840 little. It was a fossilm Okay. Well, now that we're talking about 183 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:16,840 this part of the country, Massachusetts is a very We're in Massachusetts actually in 184 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:20,120 New Hampshire right now. We're right over the line and exited in Hampshire. 185 00:13:20,159 --> 00:13:22,720 But I mean, you could drive for about two minutes and you'll be in 186 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:26,440 Massachusetts and run the nos shore of Massachusetts. But mass Use is a state 187 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,639 that is it's old, you know what I mean, It's older than you 188 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,480 know most days because it's one of the original thirteen colonies, a set, 189 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:35,600 et cetera. There's a lot of old buildings, a lot of old stretches, 190 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:39,279 a lot of like kind of haunt the house this year, and somehow 191 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,759 we came upon a list, Raven, is that right, the most haunted 192 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:46,799 twenty most haunted places in Massachusetts. Yeah. I found this cool little list 193 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:50,840 as I was going through some other research, and so I thought it would 194 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,519 just be fun to just kind of go down and just read them. Spoiler 195 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,360 A lot of these are in Salem. Oh of course, yeah, Salem. 196 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,519 Of top ten, we have a top twenty. Okay, so the 197 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,720 number twenty is Gallows Hill that is in Salem. It's it's known as the 198 00:14:09,879 --> 00:14:16,039 area that was chosen to hang the convicted, which is but I don't believe 199 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:22,159 it's ever actually been confirmed because, as I've mentioned numerous times on this show, 200 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:26,200 record keeping back then was very very bad. But it is said to 201 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,279 be haunted, so that's pretty cool. We have number nineteen haunted Derby District 202 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,279 that's also in Salem. It's a really cute little downtown area and there's tons 203 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,639 of shops and beautiful houses there, and there's great brunch spots and it's also 204 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:46,440 haunted. But I never had any issues there. I feel very comfortable there. 205 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:50,559 I think that's where the little Lighthouse is too. Us just a great 206 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:56,440 area. But it looks like they're talking about one specific building, which is 207 00:14:56,799 --> 00:15:01,240 the Derby District. If a place is fine, that doesn't necessarily mean it's 208 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:03,000 haunted in an evil way, does it. Oh No, not at all. 209 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:07,559 Now it can be haunted with you know, good spirits or bad spirits, 210 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:11,159 or mixture of both. We should just jump hands on what you got 211 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,120 going on. We should just jump in here and say that Salem, mass 212 00:15:13,399 --> 00:15:18,000 is where the Salem witch trials were held. Okay, back when was it 213 00:15:18,039 --> 00:15:24,559 sixteen hundreds, I'm gonna say sixteen was it sixteen sixty two? Okay, 214 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:30,120 do something like that. But downtown Salem around Halloween, Salem, Massachusetts is 215 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,960 unbelievable. It's it's it's the party that never ends, you know. And 216 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,039 in a lot of places where these people were executed, and I know one 217 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,799 of the at least two of them, instead of hanging them, they they 218 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,360 made them laid down. They put huge boulders on them until they crush them. 219 00:15:46,039 --> 00:15:50,120 You know, it's really very very you know, horrible ways to go, 220 00:15:50,879 --> 00:15:54,279 especially in the name of religion, which made it even worse. But 221 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,879 but but everything seems to gravitate to the the city of Salem, Massachusetts, 222 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,039 and they've embraced it. I'm looking at it like Roswell embraced it, you 223 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,720 know what I mean. You get down there and there's just so many places 224 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,360 that kind of ire into this, and some really like we had churches and 225 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:14,000 stuff, I mean, the real deal. It's on the witches and stuff 226 00:16:14,159 --> 00:16:17,639 really you know, into it. But anyway, Richards that still apply their 227 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,080 trade in Salem, right oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a 228 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,600 little bit. All right. Now I'm at number eighteen and I whoever laughs 229 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:33,879 first, is responsible for let's see, what do I need? It's responsible 230 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,559 for sending me snacks. Let's just say that number eighteen is Unhole Liquors. 231 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:48,600 Laugh. I didn't know that this was a hanted location. Apparently it used 232 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:52,399 to be a funeral home. This is also in Salem. This is Wow 233 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,200 down by like the Derby Street district area, and it's just a little corner 234 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:03,000 store, like a little what are those calls in the city they have them? 235 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:08,200 I can't think of it. Yeah, it's called bung Hole Liquors. 236 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:18,880 Yeah. Uh. Number seventeen we have Cinema Salem. Then that's just you 237 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:25,079 know, kind of speaks for itself. But apparently that is something where when 238 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,400 things were being filmed, they were they were seeing things and I've had psychics 239 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:33,599 look into it. Pretty cool. Uh. Number sixteen, we're still in 240 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,559 Salem, guys. We have in a pig's eye. This is a restaurant. 241 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,920 And I guess basically, after the Wood trials ended, people that were 242 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,000 living there tried to just like wipe their hands clean of everything and just like 243 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,119 overnight, forget it. So they started to open up like restaurants and pubs, 244 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:57,480 and this was this was something that had opened up at some point after 245 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,640 after the trial ended, and you know, they killed the people that they 246 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,240 did, and so this kind of holds an energy, I guess you could 247 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,400 say. But that's what it's called. It's in a pig's eye. I'm 248 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,759 not sure where that is. I haven't heard of it, so I guess 249 00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:15,920 it's in a spot where I haven't been. So it's the place. It's 250 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,640 still open. Yeah, from what I can see, it looks like it's 251 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,160 still open. So how many witches were killed of that Faithful Night was something 252 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,920 like seventeen, I think some crazy number sixteen or seventeen and all. Yeah, 253 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:32,240 it's something like that. Yeah, outrageous, but you know it's just 254 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,119 stupid. I mean, it was just their ways of you know, someone's 255 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,440 house got hit by lightning, you're automatically a witch, you know, and 256 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,319 they're gonna they're gonna kill you. You know, there's puritanical people, but 257 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,119 go ahead. Unbelievable. Okay. Number fifteen, we have Proctor's Ledge. 258 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:51,279 This is also in Salem, and this is another spot that was suspected to 259 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:57,400 be where some executions took place. But again it's really not confirmed either way. 260 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,839 I mean, it could be it could be you know, neither of 261 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,640 the places that I've already mentioned. It could be somewhere else completely. But 262 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,319 it does hold you know, that lower and it is a very eerie spot 263 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,960 to visit. It's very pretty, though I will say it sounds like it's 264 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,599 come It came out because of the Salem mass Chamber Commerce wrote this maybe because 265 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,400 I want to go now, well, we are finally moving out of sale 266 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:30,359 off. So we're at the Hoosac Tunnel. This is in western Massachusetts and 267 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:37,880 this, I guess it there was a horrible crash that happened there. So, 268 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,039 you know, for their little, for their little you know, probably 269 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:48,640 the first train ride ever since this was built in eighteen fifty one, and 270 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:55,480 it ended up having a very poor outcome. And so the tunnel and tunnels 271 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:59,480 in general are are pretty eerie. I mean you walk in and you're immediately 272 00:19:59,559 --> 00:20:03,640 like com shrouded in darkness. So the train crash in the tunnel, that 273 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:11,920 is how I am reading this. People killed. Yeah, two twenty people 274 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,960 died. Oh sounds like a bad day. Hang on. Yeah, well, 275 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:18,680 okay, not good. And even some miners had died in there too 276 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:25,640 because they tried to restore it and there was an explosion. So maybe let's 277 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,640 stay right out of Whosac Tunnel. Take the Boston, Massachusetts next place. 278 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:37,319 Now we're at Fort Warren. We're at number thirteen, Fort Warren. Yeah. 279 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,720 So this is this was back in eighteen sixty two, and there's a 280 00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:48,119 traveler that was coming from South Carolina. She was going to save her husband. 281 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,880 I know this story. I've heard of it. And she was going 282 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,359 to save her her husband, but because he was a Confederate soldier, they 283 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:02,839 locked him up. So she tride to be sneaky about it and get him 284 00:21:02,839 --> 00:21:07,799 out of the prison, and she got busted and let a bunch of prisoners 285 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:15,000 free in the process. The people it's kind of what William william on the 286 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:21,200 State of Massachusetts tack in the day. Wow, we're in a fun state. 287 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:25,359 This is top twenty places in Massachusetts. I hope the Beach Columners and 288 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:30,079 one of them would be funny. Okay, So number twelve, we're back 289 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:36,680 in Salem, guys U Salem's first church. This is now a restaurant. 290 00:21:36,759 --> 00:21:44,000 This is now the Rockefeller Rockefeller Rockefeller's restaurant, and it was it was the 291 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,119 original home to to Salem's first church. And it's built over ancient tunnels that 292 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,799 were often used back in back in those days where you know, people did 293 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,079 uh things that were very illegal and would probably still be illegal today, like 294 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:04,160 murder still and I would hope that those tunnels aren't there anymore. Smuggling was 295 00:22:04,319 --> 00:22:07,200 probably going on. Smuggling. Oh yeah, for sure. The town I 296 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:12,480 live in here in the UK is noted for the smuggling operation. Anything else 297 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,960 good? Yeah, gotta get on the map somehow, right, big time 298 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,400 smug question next place. If anybody's watched Pole Dark series Polled doc, there's 299 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:29,400 a number of episodes that talk about that operation. The Cornwall another drunk next 300 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:33,920 please right? Alright, Number eleven, we're at the I'm not sure how 301 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,640 you say this. Maybe you can help me. The LSU Lyceum Halle see 302 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:44,839 him, Okay, and this is it's now a seafood restaurant, but it's 303 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,759 where Alexander Graham Bell made the world's first long distance phone call. Wow, 304 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,480 no, just kidding, Well, I mean yeah, I think that's where 305 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,839 he started the phone, right, and Salem is somewhere down in that area 306 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,279 that I don't know. My history does not my history lessons don't really know 307 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,039 things that actually matter, so I'm not sure. But yeah, that's where 308 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,319 the first long distance phone call was made. That's pretty cool. Maybe reverse 309 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,319 the charges call it home. I call home, but they had no phone. 310 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,799 This is a lyceum, that's hard to say. That was built in 311 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:27,160 eighteen thirty and it was used for you know, lectures and seminars. But 312 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:36,920 sorry. So many people believe that Bridget Bishop haunts the grounds there. She 313 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,279 was one of the executed persons from the Salem which trials. Apparently her soul 314 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:48,799 hopped down over there and just kind of hangs out. Yeah. Number ten 315 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:55,039 Murphy's restaurant in Pubs. I've been there. What's the name of Murphy's Murphy's 316 00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:59,599 Restaurants. You're never gonna guess where this is, uh tell us it's in 317 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:07,759 sale And this is this is actually right by where the the cemetery is, 318 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,200 which is called the Old Burrying Point Cemetery. You know, I would say 319 00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:17,359 that maybe this isn't haunted, and maybe the maybe the spirit's just fancy a 320 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,920 pipe every once in a while. So I'm gonna say that this this doesn't 321 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,359 deserve to be on this list. Okay, nine because you're on the other 322 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:29,039 side doesn't mean a good time haunted places go ahead, all right, now 323 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,759 this one we all know. We have the Bridgewater Triangle at number nine, 324 00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:36,960 and for for Verry, I feel obvious reasons. We have the Hakkamock Swamp. 325 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,279 I think Lizzie Borden's house falls in here close to it. I'm pretty 326 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:44,640 sure Fall River it's very close. We have the pep Ludgies. There have 327 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,440 been UFO sightings, and it's just supposed to be I would say, like 328 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,720 kind of similar to like the pine barrens, but instead of a like a 329 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:56,519 dry forest, it's a swamp version where it's just an overall unsettling place. 330 00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:00,920 See the creepiest story about that place. And man, when was this. 331 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:04,759 This is going back twenty years anyway, where people who live in living on 332 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,640 kind of the edge of it would see a young girl on the just on 333 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,720 the wood line, just on the tree line, like waving to them and 334 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,200 come and help me and stuff like that, and then they go into the 335 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,960 woods and there's no one there. Very creepy stuff goes on there. I 336 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:26,359 listened to a podcast where the hosts are in like they live in the Bridgewater 337 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,119 Triangle and one of the girls said she was driving to work though one day 338 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,440 and saw that and it it was like she saw it because she was in 339 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:37,759 traffic, because multiple people saw it. It stopped to try to like run 340 00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:41,920 after this child and like and that was it. There was no other information, 341 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,359 like like people had reported it and then like nobody followed up on it 342 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,319 because it's such a common thing that people are just like it. Ye, 343 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,559 creepy, there's another way could do creepy. Next, very creepy. Then 344 00:25:52,720 --> 00:26:00,960 number eight, we have the Holton Mansion Holton, Okay, don't know if 345 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:07,000 I'm saying that right, I apologize. And so the Houton Mansion. This 346 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:14,920 is home to North Adams and Mayor and the Houghton Mansion was home to a 347 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:21,960 twelve mile per hour car accident. Oh, I can hurt, obviously, 348 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,359 since somebody waited to dine it. But it was built in nineteen eighty and 349 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,319 that was by North Adams's former mayor. His name was Albert Houghton. He 350 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:36,240 lived there for many years before he died in a twelve mile per hour car 351 00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:40,640 accident. I'd be pissed too. I would walk a place and twelve How 352 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,279 do he do? We know how he died going so slow? It says. 353 00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:51,200 In nineteen fourteen, Albert invested in the family's first car, first aero 354 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:55,359 touring car. I don't know what that is. This, Oh listen, 355 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,279 this luxurious car didn't last long. On the first day of August. Uh, 356 00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:03,960 let's see, Albert, his daughter Mary, and the family chauffeur took 357 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:11,519 a drive to test its metal. Okay, miles an hour, the car 358 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,000 tipped over in tumbledown an adbankment. Oh my god, I've been last. 359 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:25,039 Thanks please. We have the Hawthorne Hotel. This is in Salem, and 360 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,519 this is like the place to stay. This is the type of thing where 361 00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:30,920 I have tried to book a room here multiple times because I want to know, 362 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,200 you know what's going on, and you have to book like several years 363 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,519 in advance. It looks beautiful, it's super bougie, and the cast of 364 00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:48,599 the Witch actually stayed The Witch actually stayed there while filming. That pretty expensive. 365 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,079 But like I said, if you know, if you book it enough 366 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,400 in advance and you know you have the means, you don't go for it. 367 00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,799 But maybe one day I'll make it out there. And the never sexually 368 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:04,519 Acamox Swamp that's in the Bridgewater Triangle, so you know, let's cross this 369 00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:07,200 one off. Two it doesn't really need to be in here because you know, 370 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,480 we all know, but it's a nickname. Just in case anyone didn't 371 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,119 know. Is the Devil Swamp, which is super metal. I like that. 372 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,119 Number Five. We have King's Chapel burial ground. Are we still in 373 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Salem here? I'm kindly of Salem. Was going to send them a bill, 374 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,480 the Salem Chamber of Commerce Chamber. This is oh where in Boston. 375 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:34,519 It looks like just founded in sixteen thirty and this is one of the yeah, 376 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:38,839 one of the oldest burial sites in all of Boston. And it's so 377 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:47,079 ancient that some of Boston's earliest residents are laid to rest here really number four, 378 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,839 we have Joshua the Joshua Wardhouse, and we're back in Salem, guys. 379 00:28:53,599 --> 00:29:02,160 So uh Salem witch hunter Sheriff George Corwins this house. It's a very 380 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,039 creepy house. It's super you know, super old obviously because it you know, 381 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,559 was was there when the Wood Trials we were going on. And this 382 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:12,920 dick, you know, Sheriff Corwin that hunted actual human beings for being, 383 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,640 which is said to to haunt it. Hopefully it's dilapidated. Next, we 384 00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:23,000 have Lizzie Borden's house, which I figured would be on here. That's number 385 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:27,000 three. That's down in fall River. If anyone doesn't know the story, 386 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,200 she uh is well, she wasn't accused, she was acquitted, but she 387 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,640 was, well, she was accused of murdering her parents, well, her 388 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,920 dad and her stepmother. Yes, the rhyme is incorrect, so I'm not 389 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,799 gonna say it. Everyone knows what it is. But but she was she 390 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:52,160 was acquitted, really, she was acquitted, not guilty. Well who did 391 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,680 it? Who chopped her parents? Technically? Huh? I see, I 392 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,240 always thought she got you know, convicted in the chapter episode. Well, 393 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,039 Elizabeth mcgomery played her, and we talked about Elizabeth Blackhamery. She's also in 394 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:10,039 you know, Bewitch, but she played Lizzie Boyden. And only because my 395 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,640 mind remembers these things, is the first time someone was fully nude on TV, 396 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:21,279 on broadcast TV. So gonna washpan and pouring the water over to get 397 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:22,519 the blood. But it's all shadows. It's all I mean, the way 398 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:26,880 they do it and everything. But you know, yeah, I remember crowded 399 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,400 around the TV with all my little buddies bunching. Well, if it were 400 00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:36,039 like an actual, you know segment on you know, the Lizzie Bardenhouse and 401 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:40,039 that whole story, because there's a lot of information that really gets kind of 402 00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:42,920 like ignored, and it will kind of make you question at the end, 403 00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:45,799 like I don't know, did she do this or not? But but that's 404 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:51,160 just it's just for a second jacket. Go ahead, he'll come on. 405 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:57,559 Diane Baker and famous actress Mommy dearist Joan Crawford. Ahead. That was another 406 00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:02,200 act wielding thing where you see you see the head big lopto off of kind 407 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,279 of in the shadow. But but I'm sure it was based on Lizzie Borden 408 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,359 but why would why would you think why Raven? Because I just always thought 409 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,920 she just mirrid him because they were a very puritanic holin. So there are 410 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:21,880 actually other suspects that when they I only remember like so much of it just 411 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,279 because it's been a while since I've read about the case. But one of 412 00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:29,359 them I want to say was her uncle, which would have been her her 413 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,839 father's brother. He was a suspect because the whole family was sick, and 414 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:40,000 there was something about him dropping off medicine because everyone in the family was sick, 415 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,240 okay, and they were wondering if he had poisoned them. And then 416 00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:49,240 there was also was there a brother then they chopped up that would have been 417 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:53,720 that was the husband's brother, the father's brother, so Lizzie Borden's father's brother, 418 00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:57,119 so her uncle. And then I want to say her stepmother had a 419 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,920 sister that was also a respect. I could be wrong, because, like 420 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,480 I said, I'm not super fresh on it. But when when you know, 421 00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:08,519 I'll gladly do a deep dive on this because it's super fascinating and it 422 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:13,200 will kind of have you questioning, like, okay, was she actually falsely 423 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,200 accused? Because it's it's really hard to tell, and especially you know, 424 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,079 they get locked down a crime scene back then like they do now, so 425 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,319 a lot of evidence got lost, so a lot of it was circumstanced. 426 00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:31,720 Who still doing inherit? Yeah? Who could women inherit at that point? 427 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,519 Or did it go to the brother, you know, the uncle and maybe 428 00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,200 he inherited. He's always money, there's always your follow the money, you 429 00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:43,559 know that. I don't remember. I only remember that after everything was said 430 00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:46,960 undone like years later, she ended up buying like this super super fancy house 431 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,480 that was up on a hill. And that was like one of the reasons 432 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:54,279 why they had accused her was because she was basically saying that her father was 433 00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:59,640 like cheap and she wouldn't like buy them like this fancy house because they wanted 434 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,079 him to buy them a new house. But it was like at the time, 435 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,000 Lizzie Borden and her sister were both considered like old maids because I think 436 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,200 they were in their late twenties and they were still living at home, not 437 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:13,880 married. You lived at home until you were married. So it was a 438 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,759 very strange situation all around. But I'll do a deep dive on that and 439 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:20,519 we'll talk about that Yeah, that's an interesting and then and then you guys 440 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,359 can form your own opinions on it. How about that right? Okay, 441 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:28,640 But anyways, the Lizzie Bordenhouse is also a bed and breakfast. This is 442 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,559 another one like the Hawfard Hotel, where this is like a years and advanced 443 00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:37,039 type of thing, super expensive. Many people do say that they hear stuff 444 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:43,039 you can literally stay in, like the room where everything went down. Yeah, 445 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,519 that's the most famous. That's the room everybody wants to leave me the 446 00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:50,319 book play on that place. Be in the other room, going three rooms 447 00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:57,759 that you cannot wow. These are the top twenty und places in Massachusetts. 448 00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:00,720 Where were we done? Number two? We got two more. I don't 449 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:07,719 know what this is sk Pierce Mansion sk Pierce Mansion in Gardner, Massachusetts. 450 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,440 Apparently this is one of the state's most notably haunted houses. This is not 451 00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:19,559 a house. This is a straight up mansion. It's beautiful, so much 452 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:23,320 so that it's oftentimes up for sale and realistians have a hard time closing. 453 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,239 And apparently they say that Masonic rituals took place within the quote unquote home. 454 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:37,760 Masonic or demonic says Masonic, like I would think like freemasons. He's a 455 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:45,920 freemasion really yeah yeah wow huh. So number one please stop it down Ropes 456 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,599 Mansion. And this is another like crazy, this is this is a straight 457 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:55,920 up mansion. And this is iconic. This is in uh Salem. Also 458 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,679 they say that it is possibly the most haunted place in Salem. Let's just 459 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:08,360 have a great past. In early days of Salem, tuberculosis was ripping through 460 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:16,639 the town and one such family was hit really hard was the Ropes family and 461 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,880 the parents, parents of Abigail and Elizabeth. They both died, so they 462 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,840 left them orphans and they just kind of had to like take care of themselves. 463 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,480 Abigail would go on to Mary and Elizabeth did not, So here we 464 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:35,719 got old old maid. She was probably like fifteen and wasn't married. And 465 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,440 then poor Elizabeth unmarried, you know this old maid. At probably fifteen, 466 00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:44,679 she got tuberculosis two. So Abigail was the only person left that had to 467 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,760 take care of her. And not long after Elizabeth would die and this really 468 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:57,800 crushed Abigail and she was driven insane by this. So she would actually spend 469 00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:01,920 the rest of her life just as essentially as a hermit, locked away in 470 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:09,880 in the mansion. Yeah, not good because one night she was doing hermit 471 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,079 things, you know, as you do, and she went to tend to 472 00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:20,320 the fireplace and her clothes caught on fire, so that happened. Not great, 473 00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:24,960 really pretty house. Check it out. That is said to be the 474 00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:31,760 most haunt most Yeah, most haunted location. Could you repeat that location again? 475 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,559 Yeah, that's the Ropes Mansion. Trying to see if it had the 476 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,760 street name here, but I can't find it. Sometimes it hasn't and sometimes 477 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,639 it doesn't. Now if you type it in you'll be able to find. 478 00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:50,119 It's really really pretty. Yea classic colonial style. It almost looks like the 479 00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:57,199 house from pocus Pocus that the girlfriend lived in. Oh wow. You know 480 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:05,039 they filmed the Witches of Eastwick right the next town over from yam Ipswich at 481 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,519 Crane's Beach, which is really kind of a cool place, you know, 482 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:16,559 real quick take. Thank you Raven's Most Haunted Informative. Let's do New Hampshire 483 00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:21,400 next time. We'll probe the aumlesto. Yeah. Well, Bob just came 484 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,639 in and opened the door. Did he really? Did it open on itself? 485 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,639 Yeah? I closed the door. It's open right now. I was 486 00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:30,239 trying to wave him down with us. Well, when you started talking about 487 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,159 haunted places open, you know, when we first came on for the segment, 488 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,239 I closed the door because there were people in the hallway, and I 489 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,280 think they've since left, so I'm sitting down here, and when you started 490 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,480 doing this segment on the most Haunted places in Massachusetts, the door open, 491 00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:51,760 It's fully opened behind us, and I'm waving to Mac pointing to the door, 492 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,920 going there's something not coolly the first time ever. I'm glad I'm in 493 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,840 New Hampshire. But the doors open, the door is open, is open? 494 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,920 The closes on that song he's not taking on. Well, if it 495 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:09,000 closes, then where we're we're gonna have musical hits to uh for the rest 496 00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:12,199 of the show. Wow, that's interesting, you know, just real quick 497 00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:15,639 before we take it preak. I'm just talking about strictly like unsolved murders. 498 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,960 And I watched Dateline every once in a while and I really have to kind 499 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,679 of stop watching it. They always have these very very odd cases, but 500 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,760 they're all there. They're molded fla TV, so you don't know the punch 501 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,920 line until the very end. But on one of those type shows you were 502 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:36,039 talking about, John ban at Ramsey, John ban at Ramsey, she'd be 503 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,960 thirty yeah, yeah, like she'd be thirty two now or something or even 504 00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:43,280 older and knowing. And if you read, i mean every once in a 505 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,920 while, you know, just see something on really yeah really it was ninety 506 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,960 six, right, it wasn't. Yeah, I'm probably right around there when 507 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000 she was killed. Yeah, but if you read, if you read what 508 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,559 went on, you know, if you read everything, it's like the unsolvable 509 00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:01,840 mystery because if you say, but this happened, this happened, but they 510 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,519 say no, but you know, we figured that out because these people have 511 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,960 an aw by this didn't happen. Well it's this and this, and it's 512 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000 like, I don't know, it's very strange. I mean there's there's like, 513 00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:15,800 no, they've they've absolutely clear everybody right in the house. Yeah, 514 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,199 it's the coldest case. Yeah, everyone in the house, even though they're 515 00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:21,880 all kind of creepy people. I mean, I'm sorry, but they were. 516 00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:24,599 They were all guilt. Everybody would think they were all guilty. Yeah. 517 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,719 Yeah, and no, just the fact that they dressed her up like 518 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,400 that to perform, Yeah, that's whole they were. But I mean that 519 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,880 would attract weirdos who saw her performed too. Well, that's what I thought 520 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,280 someone someone broke in maybe, but there's literally no sign of a break in, 521 00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,960 and the cops were there and didn't find her, so they came back 522 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,480 the second time and all that kind of stuff. But even though sorry, 523 00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:51,639 but even the strangest pot is so now the Ramsey is the husband and the 524 00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:53,000 wife, okay, and and they were both kind of accused, and they 525 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,039 were both under the cloud for a long time, both exonerated. Her mother 526 00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:02,920 died and then her father married the mother of that girl who was went missing 527 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:10,119 in a Ruba Holloway Holloway yea Natalie Yeah, yeah, Natalie Holloway's father mother 528 00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:15,440 and father divorced and Natalie Holloway's mother married John Benett's father. Wow, that's 529 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:22,519 the weirdest grave And I get that right, right, Yes, they wouldn't 530 00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:29,519 believe. I will say about that case, I've I've read some books about 531 00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:30,760 it, I've listened to like a lot of podcasts and watch a lot of 532 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,440 documentaries about it. And I went in with like an opinion of, oh, 533 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:38,880 the parents did it. And the more you get into it, the 534 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,000 more it's it was a really badly botched investigation from the start. A lot 535 00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:51,960 of evidence was lost again and especially when they get into the details about what 536 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:59,039 was done to her. Absolutely no way that the parents or the brother had 537 00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:02,440 anything to do with that in my opinion. Yeah, and it sucks because 538 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,960 it'll probably never ever be solved because there's there's so much evidence that's gone, 539 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:15,480 right, but it's it's there's so many different rabbit holes to go down, 540 00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:20,239 right, Yes, it feels like it had to be like multiple players involved. 541 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,079 I just don't think it was the family, right, But this is 542 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,519 the way thing is that they've they've you know, from from what I've read, 543 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,239 is that even though, like I said, they're kind of creepy people, 544 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,960 they exonerate these people. They went to great lanes, lots of cops, 545 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:37,320 private detectives, and so they just cannot don't have they're convinced that the 546 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,199 no one and the family did it, so that means someone outside had to 547 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,920 do it. But there's no evidence of any break in, so someone had 548 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,480 access to the house somehow. Yeah, but this is while they're home and 549 00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,199 everything, and they just got home from a restaurant and stuff. It's they 550 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,440 might have had keys, you know, somebody was working on the house and 551 00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:57,519 a contractor previous owner of the house. Yeah, but how do you do? 552 00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:00,559 I mean, but they're sneaking while asleep. But I think the thing 553 00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:05,519 with that is that the house was so massive, because I believe the parents 554 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,239 their room was like up on the third floor, and then the kid's room 555 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,599 was on the second floor, and they was in like opposite ends of the 556 00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:16,480 house or something. Okay, So I guess they said that they wouldn't even 557 00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:21,559 hear anything up there where they were, which is also wild in my opinion. 558 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,760 Yes, I don't have kids, but I feel like if I did, 559 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,440 I would want to hear them. You know, put a monitor in 560 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,199 the room. You're sure you can hear what's going on. It's it's so 561 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:37,320 I don't know, there's there's just like you could literally go into a downward 562 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,719 spiral looking into that. It's just like it's so weird, never get an 563 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:45,639 answer. It's just like no obvious, all the obvious suspects, all the 564 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,440 obvious scenarios just don't work. Do they have DNA? I think they do 565 00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:53,599 have DNA, and they couldn't never hit a hit I'm that's if I'm not 566 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:59,360 mistake, And didn't they recently get DNA off of another piece of evidence, 567 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,760 then maybe that up with another case. Yeah, well, I think that 568 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,360 might be what I saw TV. If they have any chance with the DNA, 569 00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:09,960 someone want to end up happening is somebody who has no clue about anything 570 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:14,960 is going to submit their DNA to some database looking to find out their family 571 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,519 genealogy, and it's going to come back and hit against this and say there's 572 00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:24,920 a ninety percent chance you're related to who did this. And then they're gonna 573 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,480 come and say, okay, who, let's talk to your family and they're 574 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,880 going to find somebody who lived in Colorado Springs. That's how they do it 575 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,639 now, right, Yeah, And they find they got the Golden State killer 576 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,840 was somebody DNA and they were able to find the angel. Yeah yeah, 577 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,119 yep, that's so related to him, and said you're a close match, 578 00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:44,239 but you're not it. But we need to left in your family. You 579 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,800 have a cousin who lives in the right and boom, you know. So 580 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,320 that's that's where that whole DNA thing. You got to be really careful an 581 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,760 the reason why not that still working on the case, right. I think 582 00:43:53,800 --> 00:44:00,719 I don't think that there's always probably writers and private investigators working would love to 583 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,599 solve it, because then you've made your own bones, you know. But 584 00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,199 it is really a very strange, strange case because it just looks like no 585 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,480 one did it. It's really odd. But anyway, speaking of no one 586 00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:13,679 did, why don't we take a commercial breaknow and Robbie right back. You're 587 00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:15,920 listening to mcmoney's Militraction on show here on the Distant thund their radio network. 588 00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:22,639 Please stay tune. UFOs are found in Renaissance art, on ancient coins, 589 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:28,519 and etched on cave walls. They're even reported in the Bible. But more 590 00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:34,840 surprising is when UFOs have seen the most in times of war. Through centuries, 591 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,119 thousands of UFO sightings have been made by high ranking officials, military pilots, 592 00:44:38,159 --> 00:44:43,639 and ordinary soldiers. Often, these fantastic appearances occur at the height of 593 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,320 great battles, from World War One to D Day to Korea, Vietnam and 594 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,960 beyond. 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That's UFOs and wartime What they didn't want you to know by 603 00:45:32,360 --> 00:46:09,880 macmaloney, On sale at your local bookstore or on Amazon dot com. Welcome 604 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,440 back and went to macloney's midle Tracks of our show here on the Distance fund 605 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,559 of Radio Network. This is Mac maloney. Well, the show we have 606 00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:21,480 for you tonight, interesting show, Interesting gang is with us. You girls. 607 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,559 Hopefully you're already ready because you see a very famous one one O. 608 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:30,000 The girls tell everybody, I'm sure they're ready. Mah okay, all right, 609 00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:36,840 they're drenched with sweat for grant. Okay, thank you, thank you, 610 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,440 saying sweat. Frankly, no Coco tonight, I'll save you the planet. 611 00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:45,719 But switch Blade Steve Water is here switchy, and he's glad to be 612 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,679 here. Okay. And you had the big Tata today, right, and 613 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,599 we're talking about what you have toga at at Tutor's Biscuit World. You don't 614 00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:58,679 put ketchup on any of that ketchip is meant for other things. He's a 615 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,719 gast like yeah, hamburgers. Oh no, I would have I drowned that 616 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,719 baby in casut. Sorry, it's in my DNA with gravy on it. 617 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:09,039 I'd make it on one side and the other. Don't worry, and then 618 00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:12,519 at some point they will meet. It will be like ecstasy below me. 619 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,920 Oh, I don't know, Matt, I don't know speak about ecstasy. 620 00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:21,280 I think he has some in his wallet. Uphom kick over and Aldo is 621 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,880 yet wow, Wow, I haven't looked at my wallet for a while, 622 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,320 but there might be something interesting in there. Okay, everything good with you 623 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,360 will? Yeah, you know, Okay, no complaint. The weather's the 624 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,840 weather's terrible. The summer has been terrible. It's been a beautiful summer. 625 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,760 Frankly, it's been raining. Okay, everything's moldy. Maybe if I went 626 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:45,360 out once in a while, I would notice exactly. Although AOL also with 627 00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:47,840 us as a favorite good witch up there and so I was young Raven, 628 00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:52,360 Raven, how are you? Oh my gosh, hello, thank you so 629 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,159 much for having me. I'm so glad that we finally had the discussion to 630 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,320 turn this into a cat podcast. Cat podcast looking for to that cats. 631 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:07,800 Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know some people 632 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:14,320 that just I know cat people and some people not cat people. You hit 633 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,880 call like Macelonia's cats me out there, you go, I think I think 634 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,840 you're You're definitely outnumbered here. Max. It would actually kind of funny in 635 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,400 a way because all you cat people would gang up on me because there's a 636 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,559 lot more of us than there are. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I've 637 00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:30,440 got four cats in this room. Here in this room, we got like 638 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,079 a tan cats anyway. But but here's the thing. I don't like book 639 00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:37,840 cats. And it's not that they don't like them, is I don't like 640 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,800 the tude, you know, I mean every one of them has the same 641 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:45,840 exactly like, you're here to feed me, you're here to to provide me 642 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,519 wamp and comfort and everything, and and you know my attitude to you is 643 00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:53,199 going to be half the time half the other time, right, I mean 644 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,039 basically, no, not at all. I'm serious. They recurring, They 645 00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:00,400 recurring the effect. Raven is shaking, Rave even is nodding. She agrees 646 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:07,639 with I have four Norwegian forest cats. They are known for. We can't 647 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:10,480 talk about cats the personality. I'm not gonna yes, but they they are 648 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:16,559 the disposition cats you could ever like the brothers. Can I afforded our siblings? 649 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,639 Okay, same litter. These guys never argue, never given a hard 650 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,159 time, they never fight. They are the sweetest cat. That's why, 651 00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:28,239 That's why I drove seven hours to go get This is a big edit. 652 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,679 This is a big edit. You're dedicated cat. Okay, everyone loves cats, 653 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:38,280 but not everyone's dude. Any of this is this is all going on. 654 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:45,239 This is already, this is already on the floor anyway, And this 655 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,199 is a lot of cat pet stores in sale in Massachusetts. Maybe we can. 656 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,079 You don't work out a special show up, will not. They're familiars 657 00:49:52,079 --> 00:50:01,760 anyway, Switchy, it's time to put in your bump of right here and 658 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:07,800 now it's time for another story from the Lost Animals of the Paranormal. It's 659 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:15,519 time for Steve Ward's report from the Fringe. Right switch come in, please 660 00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:21,039 switchy. That source for this one. This fringe report comes from a paperback 661 00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:25,119 that was published in nineteen seventy four called UFO's Past, Present and Future by 662 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,199 Robert Emmanaker. And this was kind of it was just right on the coattails 663 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,760 of Pascagoula, the coin helicopter case. There was a lot going on at 664 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:42,000 this time, and he there was a one particular report in here that caught 665 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:46,440 my eye. And it actually took place in nineteen fifty nine in Maine, 666 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:52,679 or at least that's where it started. But it centers on several people involved 667 00:50:52,719 --> 00:51:00,800 in intelligence, the Office of Naval Intelligence and the CIA. Lieutenant Colonel Robert 668 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:06,119 Friend, he was US Air Force retired. He was a former head of 669 00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:09,719 Project Blue Book when he was interviewed for this in nineteen seventy nineteen seventy three 670 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:15,960 for the book, and he, like I said, he was for a 671 00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:20,360 period of time. He was of course after Ruppelt, but he was in 672 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,679 charge of Bluebook for a while. New doctor Heineck, he was retired at 673 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:30,639 the time. At this time, End was on the staff of Celestco Company 674 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:37,000 Management. They built and launched missiles for self defense purposes. Now, Friend 675 00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:39,480 was highly regarded by the other officers. Heineck had nothing but good things to 676 00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:44,320 say about him, and Heineck said he had an open mind to the approach 677 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,960 on UFOs, the UFO mystery. So at first, friend, for years 678 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,400 he wouldn't talk about this, this bizarre incident. But about fifteen years went 679 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,440 by and Robert Emmeneger was able to get an interview with him and find out 680 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:05,199 about this really string in occurrence. Friend also said that there was well, 681 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,559 he said that there's this one particular investigation that involved a series of incidents that 682 00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:13,840 stood out because of its weirdness. It starts with an unnamed rear admiral. 683 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,440 He had information about a woman in northern Maine, missus Sean, who claimed 684 00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:22,840 to be in contact with ETS. And again this is nineteen fifty nine. 685 00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:28,800 He sent two naval intelligence officers there to investigate. Now were our government had 686 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:35,440 information that the Canadian government had already done some extensive investigations into this woman and 687 00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:40,599 her claims. Now we don't don't have the specific questions, but the for 688 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:46,840 starters. These officers asked the lady all kinds of scientific and technical questions that 689 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,960 she answered with ease. I mean, she just did not have the education 690 00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:53,960 level to know this, and she claimed that this was she was getting the 691 00:52:54,039 --> 00:53:00,199 information from with the aid, the telepathic aid of the space brothers. So 692 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,519 they there, I guess there was extensive questioning at which we had some of 693 00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:09,280 them, but we don't. She said there was an organization of these beings 694 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:16,840 called OEEV, which meant Universal Association of Planets, and they had a certain 695 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:22,519 project which focused on the Earth, but there were no details forthcoming, but 696 00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:30,599 apparently very interested in us. The woman said that she got this message whether 697 00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:36,480 they're questioning or that one of the officers that they could speak through him if 698 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,519 they wanted, and he could come back with them and they would still be 699 00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:45,719 getting the information from this intelligence or whatever it was. So again, nineteen 700 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,960 fifty nine, Friend attended a meeting in the security portion of a Washington government 701 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,000 building, a billion unnamed. They were surrounded by CIA and military personnel, 702 00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:00,599 and they had this one officer there that got the nod to be the channeler 703 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:07,960 for these beings. So they had a several prepare questions, and he went 704 00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:14,519 into a trance and they asked questions like, of the aliens through him or 705 00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:17,519 whatever they are, do you favor any government group or race answer no, 706 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,719 will there be a third World War? No? That he even asked, 707 00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:27,039 are Catholics the chosen people? Well, this dude, whoever he was, 708 00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:30,199 said no, So that not not my not my message. I'm not trying 709 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,280 to you know, I've set any Catholics, but you know, and the 710 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,840 and the individual that they were speaking through was Afa a f f A from 711 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,480 Uranus. Okay, insert your joke here, I just did. Now. 712 00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:54,800 They also asked can we see a spaceship? And the subject, still in 713 00:54:54,920 --> 00:55:00,039 a trance, said go to the window and they would have proof. So 714 00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:05,400 they went to the window and supposedly saw a classic UFO fourteen hundred July sixth, 715 00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:09,159 nineteen fifty nine. They saw what looked like a classic metallic flying saucer 716 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:15,159 through the window. And then friend he asked a series of his own questions 717 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,760 while the man was in a deep trance. He was answering by automatic writing. 718 00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:24,320 He was putting the answers in large letters, and was clearly in some 719 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:30,039 kind of trance and was moving around very rapidly and jerkily. These movements and 720 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,159 more of these names came through these. Well, there was the Alfa, 721 00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:42,840 there was Alamar Krill, cril L and The thing is, these names had 722 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,360 come through before and after George van Tassel, who used to channel the Space 723 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,440 Brothers under Giant Rock, Many of these names would come through some time later, 724 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,920 George Hunt Williamson, supposedly to the radio Telegraphy, had a series of 725 00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,719 contacts. Many of these same names would come through different channelers different parts of 726 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:07,960 the world in different time periods. Several years later, Carla Rookhart, who 727 00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:12,960 was the one that channeled the raw material the Law of One, also was 728 00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:17,079 getting some of these same names. So it's just very interesting that whatever the 729 00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:22,719 source of this is, the collective unconscious, really some kind of space brother 730 00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:28,039 alien intelligence, I don't know, but the same names keep reoccurring. There 731 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:31,239 were seven top men and intelligence that were at present at this security meeting, 732 00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:38,239 all all had clearances, all you loyal military employees. None of their names 733 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:44,360 were released, but as the questioning went on you find out more. There 734 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:49,599 was this Clonar from Mercury and car from Centurists. Again, the same names 735 00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:58,159 coming through over and over, and the report that friends report reiterated that there 736 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,880 was just no way that this woman could come with these answers to some of 737 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:06,599 these highly technical questions. But then some kind of gibberish came through the population 738 00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:13,119 of Jupiter was seven hundred and eighty seven thousand or no million day. It 739 00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:16,920 took Jupiter seven days to revolve for one day, and I think it's more 740 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:23,559 like nine hours. And uh, just just some some weird, uh you 741 00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:30,360 know, alleged facts about the solar system that sounded very bogus. So so 742 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,920 then, uh, for Andrews asked in this interview, so what was what 743 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,360 happened? What's the upshot? And he said, well, the uh, 744 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:43,519 the general is you know, told him to drop it, to forget it, 745 00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:46,559 because there was another government agency already involved. And he said, when 746 00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:50,320 you're a colonel and a general tells you to drop it, you drop it. 747 00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:55,199 He did say that he checked later on and everybody that was involved in 748 00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:00,800 this got moved elsewhere to another base, a very different job or whatever. 749 00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:07,400 So they kind of put the stamp of a cover up. Really they do 750 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,920 really want to deal with this kind of embarrassing anyway. But here's here's the 751 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,280 upshot. Here's the conclusion that we've heard so much before, so many times 752 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:21,199 before. You get these messages whatever the source actually is, that the channeling 753 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,880 message and some of the information is dead on accurate. Sometimes the predictions are 754 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:31,880 dead on accurate, and other other information is total nonsense, absolute, total 755 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:37,599 nonsense. The University of Michigan professor, he was involved with Uri Geller and 756 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:42,599 some other people when they were they really were getting some kind of contact from 757 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,559 from the Space Brothers or whatever. They got predictions that were dead on, 758 00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:51,280 and he's buying the whole thing. And then guess what the world is going 759 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,199 to end on such and such a date, Call everybody to the mountain top. 760 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:58,199 Space Brothers will come down and scoop you up. And they didn't show 761 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,679 up. And I'm going to ask you this, which you though when you 762 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,639 say that, when you said that, you know, the information that people 763 00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:08,760 got, some of it was dead on and some of it was just bologney, 764 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,639 right, You know that reminds me of them. And it's only because 765 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:19,239 last week we did a spy trivia show that sounds like spycraft, because what 766 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,400 they used to do is they would like in World War Two. Is well 767 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,960 known that British intelligence. Every German agent that was sent over the spy in 768 00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:34,719 England during World War Two was captured and turned by British intelligence, which then 769 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,760 had them radio back bogus information to Nazis, and the Nazis the thopes they 770 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:44,480 are never figured this out. Okay, So for the whole time they were 771 00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:50,519 feeding the Nazis information, but and and a lot of the bogus. But 772 00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:53,760 what they had to do is you had to throw in something that was going 773 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:58,480 to happen to give these fake spies credibility, you know what I mean. 774 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,239 So they had they had they give them something and and you know, so 775 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,599 I'm going to say maybe and something that they could just there's a lot of 776 01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:08,960 ways of doing it, you know. But uh, it just sounds like 777 01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:12,760 the same thing. It sounds like the same thing. You know, it's 778 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,519 going to have to report. There's a book called Hungry Ghosts. I can't 779 01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:19,760 remember the guy's name right now, okay, but he did a long investigation 780 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,199 over several years where he was working with mediums and he would contact people that 781 01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:29,159 supposedly were in the war. He got in contact with a woman supposedly he 782 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,840 was connected with that lived in ancient Greece and the information would come through and 783 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,280 so much of it was good. And then he would he even went over 784 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,360 to England and in Europe to try and verify some of the stuff, and 785 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,159 he would find some of it he could verify, but then all of a 786 01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:46,719 sudden there were huge gaps where it was just nonsense. And he would come 787 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:52,440 back and confront the whatever, the spirit or whatever through the medium and try 788 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,679 and get an explanation, and they would be kind of tap dance around it. 789 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,840 You know, it was just so again, he got so much of 790 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,119 it, and he was buying into this book line and sinker, and he 791 01:01:02,239 --> 01:01:07,559 became so disillusioned. I mean, he really thought that he was connected to 792 01:01:07,639 --> 01:01:13,400 this woman from you know, centuries ago, and it was all crap. 793 01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:19,000 But you know, that book is really valuable to It's kind of a warning. 794 01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:24,119 Really again, what's the title, Hungry Ghosts. Can't remember the guy's 795 01:01:24,199 --> 01:01:28,880 name. I'm almost done with it. It was recommended by I was reading 796 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,119 another book by Colin Wilson, and he gave this book high praise because this 797 01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:37,039 guy really dug into it uncovered. You know, so many people are out 798 01:01:37,079 --> 01:01:44,559 there contacting their guides and whatever, and some of it may be legitimate from 799 01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:46,840 the other side, I don't know, but some of it it's a path. 800 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,599 And he talks about some people that were on the verge of suicide. 801 01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:55,719 They were so screwed up with the and it's almost like these entities or whatever 802 01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,239 they were, were messing with them purposely to screw them cases. Okay, 803 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:07,199 so here's the question. I just just flip this for a second to take 804 01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:12,480 this idea of that somehow or other, you know, there were some people 805 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,119 on this earth who seem to get messages from elsewhere. Let's say, okay, 806 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,440 let's see whether it whether it happens or not. It happens a lot. 807 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,599 It happens so much it seems like not everyone could be faking number one 808 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:29,280 number two. In a lot of these cases that we just said, there's 809 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,880 stuff spot on and then there's stuff that makes no sense. Once again, 810 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:36,320 in spycraft, you do that to screw up your enemy. So why would 811 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,719 some let's say, extraterrestrial force want to us to see what I mean, 812 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,679 you know, if they're if they'd hate to say, if they're England and 813 01:02:44,719 --> 01:02:49,880 we had Germany? What why are they what are they trying to How are 814 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,639 they trying to misdirect us with stuff that we know is nonsense? What's the 815 01:02:53,719 --> 01:02:57,679 agenda? Exactly? Thank you all? You know? I mean, what 816 01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:00,519 would it be to just keep us. Maybe now I'm only so I'm like 817 01:03:00,599 --> 01:03:02,039 one of these conspiracy people, but it is it really to kind of keep 818 01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:06,800 us complacent a little bit that it's always going to be in the realm of 819 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,199 the fringe, that you know, people are getting these messages, but it 820 01:03:08,239 --> 01:03:12,960 happens. So Carl Jung were here, maybe he could tell us, because 821 01:03:13,199 --> 01:03:15,199 it's like the Trickster. By the way, it's Joe Fisher is the author 822 01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:22,840 of Hungry Goat. The research John Heel found this all through the Mothman episode. 823 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,400 The people that believe they were in contact with the Space Brothers and they 824 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,719 were beginning all this information. And again I know I've mentioned this before, 825 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:37,880 but the granddaddy was when all these many of these silent contact ease that he 826 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,239 was in contact with, started talking about an em effect that was going to 827 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:45,440 occur on December fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven, the moment President Johnson lit the 828 01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:47,840 Christmas tree, They're going to be three days of darkness or whatever. And 829 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,559 so by this time, he said, was a raving paranoiac. I was 830 01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:54,199 just bought at hook Line and Sinker. He's in his New York apartment. 831 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,360 He's got jugs of water there, He's ready for some really bad time. 832 01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:02,199 Johnson likes the Christmas tree. Nothing happened. Happens a few moments later, 833 01:04:02,639 --> 01:04:06,840 the bridge between Point Pleasant, West Virginia and Ohio collapse. Is that right? 834 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,960 Right? And you know em effect? What did that mean that Kiel 835 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,280 thought a factory might be blowing up or something, but there was no if 836 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:20,519 there really was some intelligence to there was an intentional misdirection, Yeah, yeah, 837 01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:24,920 yeah, I mean there's you can you can there are dotted lines to 838 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,880 that. There are a dotted lines to a lot of things. But the 839 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,760 thing is this is that it no matter what, at least in our kind 840 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,440 of civilization, it's always going to be on the fringe. It's always gonna 841 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,920 be on the fringe until somebody, somebody writes a John Kiel book. But 842 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:44,000 he's he's he's David Attenborrow or something, you know what I mean, someone 843 01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:48,559 who has a lot of cliche and not cliche. Mccache has a lot of 844 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:55,519 you know power, a lot of readers is considered authoritative on you know, 845 01:04:55,559 --> 01:04:57,840 on this subject. And that's what it's going to take. And it's going 846 01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,320 to have to have some kind of scientific back. Believe me, this is 847 01:05:01,679 --> 01:05:05,679 fifteen now, about fifteen years ago, eleven years ago. So well, 848 01:05:05,719 --> 01:05:12,119 my book UFOs and What Time on Sale Everywhere came out the same week a 849 01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:15,559 woman who was a one noted writer than mcmaloney wrote a book on werewolves. 850 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,639 And it's this very kind of research. She's some Columbia and that kind of 851 01:05:19,679 --> 01:05:23,280 stuff, you know what I mean, And she just took all these stories, 852 01:05:23,719 --> 01:05:26,119 especially a lot of them in New Jersey as it turns out, and 853 01:05:26,159 --> 01:05:30,199 the pine barrens and other places where they were just these stories of werewolves, 854 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,320 people who talked to them, people who knew them, people who saw them 855 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:38,920 over the years, and it was this very very compelling case that werewolves exist 856 01:05:39,079 --> 01:05:43,960 only because you couldn't make up all these stories, you know. And I 857 01:05:44,039 --> 01:05:46,880 think in that kind of you know, paragon, if I can say paradigm, 858 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,840 is that it's the same for all paranormal stuff. We hear it happening 859 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,679 all the time, we read about it all the time, but it's always 860 01:05:54,679 --> 01:05:58,599 that fringe. But if you actually looked at it from a statistical point of 861 01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:00,159 view, as I think Joe on Kiel said, you know, within ten 862 01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:03,199 miles you're gonna find someone who start a ghosts within twenty miles, You're gonna 863 01:06:03,199 --> 01:06:06,440 find someone who had a UFO experience, you know, on and on. 864 01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:12,239 It's it's common, but it's not accepted yet. That's the strange thing about 865 01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:16,280 it. He also quotes Charles Fort at the end of the mock Band Prophecies 866 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:24,159 and says, if there's a universal mind, must it be sane? We're 867 01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:30,079 assuming yes. Listen, before we take a break, I have to throw 868 01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:39,920 this to one one. How old is uh Mick Jaggon. Isn't he approaching 869 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:44,000 eighty? Okay? Isn't he eighty? I think he might even be. 870 01:06:44,159 --> 01:06:46,480 Yeah, just had his birthday a few weeks. Okay. So here's here's 871 01:06:46,519 --> 01:06:50,880 the mystery. This is almost paranormal. So I'm watching on CNN today and 872 01:06:51,719 --> 01:06:56,599 I think it's CNN on YouTube, and it says Keith it must been YouTube 873 01:06:56,639 --> 01:07:03,480 because the little blurb was Keith Richards surprises Mick Jago with birthday greetings on stage 874 01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:06,679 at some place, some concert. Okay, so this had to be within 875 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,360 the next two, you know, the next couple in the past couple of 876 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,239 weeks. So he comes out and it's all ha ha, you know how 877 01:07:13,239 --> 01:07:16,360 they are hanging on each other and stuff, Happy birthday haha in the back, 878 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,920 Happy birthday, Tell me what it's like. Yeah, right, yes, 879 01:07:19,079 --> 01:07:23,320 tell me what it's like. In the background. I swear it's not 880 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,800 Steve Jordan on the drums. It looks like it's Charlie Watts on the drums. 881 01:07:27,519 --> 01:07:29,480 Do you know what I mean? Have you seen the clip? Do 882 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,599 you know the clip? I mean I know I heard it. I didn't 883 01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:33,880 see the clip. It's on YouTube. Oh wait, no, yes I 884 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,880 did. I saw the clip. It was on the Keith Richard's instagram. 885 01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:43,719 Okay, is Steve what's his name still their drum? Yeah? Really? 886 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,480 Okay, look at that clip and tell me you don't see Charlie Watson there. 887 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,039 It's like one of those ghostly photographs. Okay, I'll look at I'll 888 01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:51,800 look at it. Okay, Yeah, he definitely did. Say yeah, 889 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,360 tell me, tell me what it's like. Yeah, you're a happy birthday. 890 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,639 Tell me what it's like. Eight years old, because Keith is going 891 01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:01,719 to be eighty yeah eighteen? Oh is that right? Yeah? The only 892 01:08:02,159 --> 01:08:06,519 six months old of him, the eighty brothers and Mick Jaga. I mean, 893 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,079 just click on some day. You know this guy's life and lifestyle, 894 01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:13,119 and you know they can click on these things, how much he's worth and 895 01:08:13,159 --> 01:08:15,840 stuff. Yeah, he has how many drank? How many kids does he 896 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:21,439 have? Like seventy four kids or something. He's got great grandkids and everything. 897 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:26,760 He has great he I think his entire brood equals seventy four at this 898 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,399 point. That number sticks in my mind because he has so many kids by 899 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,960 so many women, over so many years since the sixties. Man, he's 900 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:39,800 he's like he's creating his own race or something. Right, He's eighty years 901 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,760 old and he's still running around. He's eighty years old and he's still running 902 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,800 around. And so this kid, his last kid, he was in his 903 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:50,479 mid seventies, was right, and she was twenty two. Okay, financially 904 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:56,000 stable. Financially stable is right. It's also when people say all those rock 905 01:08:56,039 --> 01:08:59,239 stars, you know, financially stable and sexually able. There you go, 906 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,880 Lonnie, write that down this copy right now, I'll speak ahead. He 907 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:09,239 can spread his DNA around all day long. Right, it's going to be 908 01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:15,279 good research to see how that carries down the line. Right, But I'll 909 01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:16,720 tell you know what their lives. You would think that, but I'll take 910 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:23,960 a new name. More than a handful, not even handful of you know, 911 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,880 a son who was successful when his father was, you know, a 912 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,920 superstar. Okay, like none of the Beatle kids ever really made it. 913 01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:33,680 Bob Dylan's son had a couple of hits. Uh, none of the you 914 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,800 know what I mean, there is no one, no one really prominent. 915 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,199 It's it's like that generation. Maybe because how they were brought up, maybe 916 01:09:41,239 --> 01:09:43,439 they get to hate it or you know who knows, you know. But 917 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,880 I will argue Bob Dylan's son, whose name I can't remember, Jacob. 918 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:57,199 Yes, oh really, Bob Dylan can come and fight me. We put 919 01:09:57,279 --> 01:10:00,800 that on HBI. But his son is Yeah, why because he's like gog. 920 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:08,319 Look he sounds good looking, he's got a similar voice. Yeah, 921 01:10:08,359 --> 01:10:10,840 of course, of course, why wouldn't he him. Here's the thing about 922 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:15,520 Bob Dylan, Okay, I did not want to listen a pit bull was 923 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,800 more a lootic than Bob. But I didn't like him for a long time. 924 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,800 I didn't because I didn't get it. I didn't understand, all right. 925 01:10:24,039 --> 01:10:29,560 And then you know someone well we know it has has Lois was a 926 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,880 big Elvis Constello fan, right, and you know Elvis Costell and I'd never 927 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:39,640 listened to him either, and you know he came in concert, We saw 928 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:44,680 him live attractions. Yeah, never got it, never got it, but 929 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,479 I understood I'm in a room, I'm in a concert hall at the Old 930 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:53,159 Orpheum, and everyone else but me got it. So I thought, well, 931 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,319 there must be something to be got here. And that's when I looked 932 01:10:56,359 --> 01:11:00,079 at Dylan sand like, I don't have the best voice, obviously, and 933 01:11:00,199 --> 01:11:03,720 it's always a little kind of bumpy, and his earlier work is better than 934 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:08,319 his you know, but he's just a He's just a guy who back in 935 01:11:08,399 --> 01:11:11,720 the you know, poets used to be the rock stars, you know, 936 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,000 yeah, and and now, and he's a rock star poet, that is 937 01:11:15,079 --> 01:11:17,880 it. Okay, if he was, you know, we quitting someone else's 938 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,000 songs, he wouldn't get from here to there, you know what I mean? 939 01:11:21,119 --> 01:11:26,000 Because of that voice. I saw them, saw him a few times 940 01:11:26,079 --> 01:11:29,239 at Harvard Squared, yeah, man, at the Old Bone in the wind 941 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:35,880 Era and uh, you know when he really took off with Highway sixty when 942 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:40,319 we visited in the mister Tambourine man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, when 943 01:11:40,359 --> 01:11:45,920 it hit, that's when everybody and their brother was covering and making a living 944 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:50,960 off of it. Yeah, for quite a few years. Yeah, it 945 01:11:51,079 --> 01:11:55,479 was interesting. I didn't share the Birds. Oh yeah, that that whole, 946 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,159 that whole you don't kind of I don't know what it is in a 947 01:11:58,199 --> 01:12:00,960 Western rock. I don't know what it is, hell I know. But 948 01:12:01,279 --> 01:12:05,319 it's funny that that it survived because this really turned into a music show. 949 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:10,520 Is that there was like a big folk movement in New yok and in the 950 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,560 country before the Beatles hit, right, I mean, in fact, it 951 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,439 was morphing into hoot Nanny. And I always think to myself, the Beatles 952 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,279 saved us from hoot Nanny because hoot Nanny was going to be the next big 953 01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:23,880 thing. Thank god, the Beatles, you know, hit and that was 954 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,119 a reason that that whole folk scene could have gone away, you know what 955 01:12:27,159 --> 01:12:29,760 I mean, just you know, another way of music. But but it 956 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,399 survived, and I think a lot of it had to do because Dylan, 957 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,159 you know, became electrified, you know what I mean. I'm not giving 958 01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:36,520 what we tread in the world, but it did, you know. And 959 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:41,359 that's country rock or however you want to call it. The Birds and Stuffs, 960 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,439 Krosby Stills in nash and you know those kind of bands, you know, 961 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,840 their whole careers is based based on covering his songs on his Soam. 962 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:58,560 Yet you had artists like Judy Collins and Jody Mitchell had had and still have 963 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:03,439 good careers. I'm being folkasy, but being melodic folkasy with some orchestrations, 964 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:09,319 and even Judy Collins. It did like one of the one of the best 965 01:13:09,359 --> 01:13:14,079 Beetle covers I thought of in my life. I thought was a great I 966 01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:15,760 thought she did of anybody? Why don't we do it in the road? 967 01:13:16,039 --> 01:13:19,520 Hey, Raven, do you know who? Do you know who Joni Mitchell 968 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:26,199 is? I do? I just want to piggyback on that real quick. 969 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:34,920 He sucks so that what are you talking about? Well? I saw him. 970 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:43,560 I saw him with the songas Arena twice, his crooning era, that 971 01:13:44,039 --> 01:13:48,600 Wow songs Another night with Bob Dylan. Yeah, and I dug it. 972 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,520 I kind of dug You have to. You have to, you have to 973 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,319 be a you have to kind of get it. And like I said, 974 01:13:55,359 --> 01:14:00,720 not every person gets every honest you know, but and he's hard to get 975 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,399 you know. It's like, yeah, where we all talk the way Bob 976 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:12,520 Dylan sings really show great idea and real quickly because it's so annoying every time 977 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,720 you have him you say, blow you in those that dude, will you 978 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:19,920 please? And didn't start again, but I switched to you can you do? 979 01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:27,439 Dylan? Come on, let's hear it, let's see uh oh boy, 980 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:34,439 and very liney kind of I ain't gone to work on Maggie's farm no 981 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:40,199 more. Al do you want to jump in with you? No? No? 982 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,560 I is Bobb the ghost here? Maybe so one one. The song 983 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:53,119 is center, you know, the low rejuvenation of Low mass uh, politicians 984 01:14:53,199 --> 01:15:00,600 songs, everything gets named after him. He was somehow related through marriage or 985 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,680 something else to Jack Carouac. Oh really yeah? Yeah, yes, because 986 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:09,800 stable individual, because Sue worked with a woman. Well that's where it was 987 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,720 from. That's what was from Low Tide, right, So Shue worked with 988 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:20,199 a woman at DSS that was somehow related to Carouac or maybe a cousin or 989 01:15:20,279 --> 01:15:24,960 something like that. Okay, And in the day it was wow that Yeah, 990 01:15:25,119 --> 01:15:28,520 it was interesting. First hipster. The first of it was it was 991 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,079 his book on the Road, on the Road, on the Road. Yeah, 992 01:15:31,079 --> 01:15:32,960 I never read in that stuff. When I was in college, man, 993 01:15:33,079 --> 01:15:35,800 everyone was reading that stuff, and I said, you know, I 994 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,640 was carrying that book around and when I was going to North used Yeah I 995 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,439 know. You told me you used to take the tea acid. Yeah yeah, 996 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,520 yeah on the road to pick up chicks, right when you carry it 997 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,800 on the on the train. So we could see the title the Tropic of 998 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:58,000 Cancer. This is and this is one I never read it, but vinyl 999 01:15:58,079 --> 01:16:02,039 albums that they got at the Harvard Cooper. This is all projects I've been 1000 01:16:02,079 --> 01:16:06,119 writing, reading mc maloney kind of books. Don't don't stop. You're almost 1001 01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:10,640 done, you know, we almost got throats. Those books are written by 1002 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,159 hipsters. But you were a hipster if you were reading those books, right, 1003 01:16:14,319 --> 01:16:16,600 But you're you're trying, you're trying. In many cases, you were 1004 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:21,119 trying too hard to be a hipster, you know what I mean, like 1005 01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:26,279 the whole point of the hipster, like you're you're just trying way too hard 1006 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,359 in general in general. Yes, you must be why I never made it 1007 01:16:30,399 --> 01:16:34,000 in that scene down, I didn't even tried that hard for anything. It's 1008 01:16:34,039 --> 01:16:36,520 what you did. No, No, there was a there was a modus 1009 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,079 upper RANDI about. Here's what you did. Those books. You had those 1010 01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:44,520 records and you carther on under your arm, you know, between classes, 1011 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,319 or you're hopped on the on the train. You're going back to Harvard Square 1012 01:16:46,319 --> 01:16:50,159 to hang out, maybe listen to some music instead of doing your ahead. 1013 01:16:50,279 --> 01:16:54,760 Yes, you put your books and stuff on the table so people can see 1014 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,560 them. Right ordering a coffee, you're ordering your ship like this guy, 1015 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,159 he's a hipster and that's your calling card. Yes, right right, I 1016 01:17:01,239 --> 01:17:04,039 can see that, and I can see I mean, it wasn't a goofy 1017 01:17:04,079 --> 01:17:06,800 teach. No, No, that's what we talk about. Is it in 1018 01:17:08,079 --> 01:17:14,159 a romantic way? Yep? That was actually a good looks you could it 1019 01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:15,920 could get you some attention at a certain point in time, you know, 1020 01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:20,199 and then it got there's ravens and cliche, and then it was trying to 1021 01:17:20,319 --> 01:17:24,439 hide and then all of a sudden, Hovid Square it's like you know, 1022 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:29,079 department stores and you know, very very expensive, you know, places they 1023 01:17:29,159 --> 01:17:31,800 go and eat. Hoard Square continued to be hipped for a long time, 1024 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,600 and then you had some competition in Boston. Yeah, in the Coop. 1025 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:41,680 The Hobd Coop, which was this nice little funky bookstore is now looks like 1026 01:17:42,079 --> 01:17:44,880 you know, Jordan Mosh or something. I don't even recognize it. Yeah, 1027 01:17:45,039 --> 01:17:48,039 So you know, the second floor was the record department. Yeah, 1028 01:17:48,119 --> 01:17:50,880 yeah, that was that was there a lot browsing. I got a lot 1029 01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:54,840 of my college use textbooks there too. It's well, yeah, I just 1030 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,600 swept the textbooks. Yeah, use textbooks. And that little alley, that 1031 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:05,960 alley there which yeah the h yeah that there is that famous coffee shop. 1032 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:11,079 Whow. We're really going down the road now, and then a crushroom is 1033 01:18:11,319 --> 01:18:14,479 is with boarders is now, which is a really good restaurant. But down 1034 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,840 at the end of that alley towards the other towards the river. Let's say 1035 01:18:17,199 --> 01:18:20,399 we walked in there, Lows and I it was a bakery, right, 1036 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,800 and and they were like, I don't want to say going may but it 1037 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,880 was, you know, excuse me type of a place. And we quinn 1038 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,560 and we get six mini this is about ten years ago, too, uh 1039 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:40,319 many cupcakes, okay, eighteen dollars. Eighteen dollars and you know, I 1040 01:18:40,399 --> 01:18:45,000 mean eighteen dollars and this is before the pandemic before That's what I said. 1041 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,840 I got. These things got to be the best freaking cupcakes I've evitationed. 1042 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,720 And they weren't. They were they weren't even that good. Let's see, 1043 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,399 that's what took over in Harvard Square, like in Habit Square in the early 1044 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,920 days, you'd see like places that was giving away free food to people, 1045 01:18:57,039 --> 01:18:59,600 and you know, and there's all this really kind of touchy, Philly hippie 1046 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,159 stiff. When Sue was going for a master's like education, I don't or 1047 01:19:02,199 --> 01:19:08,399 whatever you heard, are hanging out with some of her college friends and they'd 1048 01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,520 come up to me and go, oh, so, what's your major. 1049 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,159 You know, I'd look at it when I'd go, my major is in 1050 01:19:14,279 --> 01:19:17,560 real life, like working for a living. Wow. I was really not 1051 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,399 the most pleasant at that point. And I was the only one who had 1052 01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:23,800 any money because I worked for a living. And they were all, you 1053 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,760 know, poor college students. Well, and Sue would be like, just 1054 01:19:27,159 --> 01:19:29,600 shut up and let it go. And you took her advice. No, 1055 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,359 no, I kept right. I've said this yet before. Someone should write 1056 01:19:31,359 --> 01:19:34,680 a book about you. I think it'd be your best sell. Why do 1057 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:39,520 we do this? Why don't we take a bag now, and Rico and 1058 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,800 we'll be right back. Y'all listening to Macloney's Militar Access show here in the 1059 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,800 Distant thunder Radio and that way, please stay too. Hawk Hunter the wing 1060 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,920 Man has finally ridded the world. If it's worst difference, super villain Victor 1061 01:19:49,039 --> 01:19:54,000 robototh but Ian mac maloney's let his book War of Dragons, we learned the 1062 01:19:54,039 --> 01:19:59,439 maniacal terrorist ghost Steve hans Our battered devastated planet in War of Dragons book twenty 1063 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,000 two. In it's best selling Wingman series, Hawk and his United American allies 1064 01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:10,960 uncover Victor's bizarre plot from beyond the Grave. The super terrorists hit six nuclear 1065 01:20:11,039 --> 01:20:15,079 bombs around the Mediterranean before he died, knowing their dead nation will empty out 1066 01:20:15,119 --> 01:20:18,479 the Great Sea and cause a worldwide catastrophe. Gutting these weapons of mass destruction, 1067 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:23,840 He's left behind a family of ferocious air dragons eternal aerial sentinels that will 1068 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:30,960 stop at nothing to protect their late master's unthinkable secrets. Sailing aboard their gigantic 1069 01:20:31,039 --> 01:20:35,560 aircraft carrier, the us USA, Hawk and the United Americans must battle their 1070 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:40,840 way across the Mediterranean, slaying these dragons in hopes of beating Victor's allies to 1071 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:45,039 the nuke's secret locations before time runs up. If not, then the world 1072 01:20:45,079 --> 01:20:53,279 will face a very nasty, very watery armagedley. It's Game of Thrones meets 1073 01:20:53,359 --> 01:20:58,880 top gun in Wingman twenty two War of Dragons by mcmaloney, on sale now 1074 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:29,960 on Amazon. Welcome, make everyone's Macimoni's mille tracks and I'll show here on 1075 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,239 the Distant Thunder Video and Network. This is macim Rooney. Wow, what 1076 01:21:31,319 --> 01:21:33,279 a show we have you tonight. I mean, really, what a show 1077 01:21:33,359 --> 01:21:36,399 we've had for you tonight. It's just gonna keep getting better and better. 1078 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:41,479 Girls, he's here, very famous one one. Hello Macallo. Girls say 1079 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:46,399 good. A crazy show across the bottom of a pot pourri. That's content. 1080 01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:51,039 Now you speaking French to us? No Coco tonight speaking about French out 1081 01:21:51,079 --> 01:21:55,800 save in the world. But Switchblade Steve Water is here, Switchy, great 1082 01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:00,720 to be here tonight. One Big Tator into the day, right, Big 1083 01:22:00,119 --> 01:22:05,600 Big Tator also with us is a favorite good Witch, Raven. How are 1084 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,239 you doing, Raven up there in statways new Yk. Oh my god, 1085 01:22:09,279 --> 01:22:12,800 I'm doing great. Thanks for having me, uh your Paul mechanic al right 1086 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,760 now though in the studio, Hey, mac one one, I wanted to 1087 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:21,640 ask you that I saw an article today online about the police in London are 1088 01:22:23,399 --> 01:22:29,600 getting upset because people are violating a couple of the cemeteries. They're having sex 1089 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,359 on top of the uh the flat. You know, I think they're very 1090 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,399 and they're trying. They're gonna put fences around these things. Having sex on 1091 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,000 the grave. Yeah, look it up. You are sorry online today. 1092 01:22:39,079 --> 01:22:41,279 Wow, So you know it's got to be true, right, it has 1093 01:22:41,319 --> 01:22:45,760 to be it. Listen, No connection at all to the resource that is 1094 01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,600 my favorite. That's a BBC dot CEO. Check it out. I looked 1095 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,319 it up and it's it's a thing. Listen. No connection at all with 1096 01:22:51,399 --> 01:22:57,039 having sex on gravestones. He's stepping on nothing. He's stepping on your intra. 1097 01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,079 Having no connection at all with having sex and race nons is a good 1098 01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:05,359 friend. Matt Malley from Counting Froze. Let's clap him in. He's used 1099 01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:13,399 to be a pluged Matt. How you doing, Matt? He's got the 1100 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,920 Michael McDonald looked down. Okay, but the beard is getting a little yeah 1101 01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,319 yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah, you definitely have that. So 1102 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:27,640 you're you're out in in a thousand oaks, right California? Yeah yeah, 1103 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,800 and you're telling the safia that it's been kind of interesting weatherwise and climate wise 1104 01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:38,960 last week. He quake, wow, hurricane and I and all on the 1105 01:23:39,079 --> 01:23:42,880 same day in southern California. That is like, that's kind of nutted on 1106 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,880 you think, Yeah, I love it. I don't know if I'm just 1107 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,520 bitter with humanity, but when something like that happens, I think, good, 1108 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,600 finally something important. Is this happened? Really? Okay? Well yeah, 1109 01:23:53,079 --> 01:23:57,079 okay, you're not on the local TV saying that, are you not 1110 01:23:57,239 --> 01:24:00,600 get to get killed? Yeah? That's what I was gonna say. But 1111 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,479 wow, So so anyway, so you know, just at the thumbnail is 1112 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,800 that you're in Count and Crows for fourteen years? Was it? Yeah? 1113 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,720 Fourteen years? Okay? All right, towards the world several times? Right, 1114 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,239 yeah, yeah, I'm proud of that band. I'm proud of the 1115 01:24:14,319 --> 01:24:17,680 music they made and I got to do that, you know, And it's 1116 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,439 not what everyone thinks. It's not this glamorous thing. I mean, you 1117 01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,000 look at bands like The Stones and stuff, and they're out there doing it 1118 01:24:24,079 --> 01:24:28,079 the real legendary way with their private jets and all that. But otherwise you're 1119 01:24:28,119 --> 01:24:30,159 just living in hotels and you're looking for where the catering is and then you've 1120 01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:32,760 got to go on stage for two hours. It's it's not what not what 1121 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,800 I thought it was right, all right, glad I got to do it. 1122 01:24:35,079 --> 01:24:39,000 But but did it did it turn into not what you thought it was? 1123 01:24:39,119 --> 01:24:43,920 Did it kind of mute? Well, just the redundancy of it. 1124 01:24:44,199 --> 01:24:45,319 For the first couple of years, it was great, you know, and 1125 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,840 when we made the first record and it was a big hit record and it 1126 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:55,159 was like magical, and then it just turns into a monotonous job after that. 1127 01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,319 Yeah, yeah, you give in a bitter mood today, But I 1128 01:24:59,399 --> 01:25:00,920 thought you were in a good move because of the earthquake and the hurricane. 1129 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,880 There's people have to kill to being kind of see a lot of people. 1130 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,319 Yeah, right right, yeah, for sure. You know, Matt missed 1131 01:25:08,399 --> 01:25:12,640 earlier that we were doing uh Jay Jane and I were doing Bob Dylan covers. 1132 01:25:14,199 --> 01:25:16,079 Now, Matt, you're probably a Bob Dylan fan, right, Well, 1133 01:25:16,119 --> 01:25:18,960 I'm a fan of his words. I think he's a brilliant lyricist, 1134 01:25:19,319 --> 01:25:23,479 and but you know, I'm not. I didn't. I wasn't more of 1135 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,720 a prague rocker. I didn't gravitate to the whole Civil War era side with 1136 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,119 a guitar thing myself, you know, but stuff. Yeah, yeah, 1137 01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:32,680 that thing. Yeah, I like the English version of it. I like 1138 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:36,199 the English folk revivalism, right right, Yeah, we started about them before. 1139 01:25:36,399 --> 01:25:40,960 But you know when Robbie Robinson died from the band okay, which you 1140 01:25:41,039 --> 01:25:44,000 know, I mean the band was just to me one of you know twenty 1141 01:25:44,119 --> 01:25:46,680 thirty groups like say back then. I mean I never really paid attention to 1142 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,720 him. You heard them on the radio very you know, very often. 1143 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:56,079 Really they had a bunch of hits. But when you hear about the you 1144 01:25:56,159 --> 01:25:59,560 know, the history of the band, how based had this kind of Americana 1145 01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,800 rock okay, and these English guys fell in love with it just like you 1146 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:08,439 know what I mean, just like they came up like Eric Clapton, Judge 1147 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,000 Harrison, all these people came to the band as if they were the best 1148 01:26:12,039 --> 01:26:14,479 b endeavor. You know, they just loved that kind of music where I 1149 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:15,960 just thought, okay, like you say, it's civil low stuff, you 1150 01:26:16,039 --> 01:26:20,399 know. Yeah, but you're right, the UK when crazy. I mean 1151 01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:26,079 the first Fair Poor Convention record has some like a Joni Mitchell cover and they 1152 01:26:26,119 --> 01:26:30,199 were kind of mimicking the American Americano folk rock until they discovered their own exotic 1153 01:26:30,319 --> 01:26:33,479 music of the UK and then they really took off after that. Yeah, 1154 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,199 yeah, right, can you explain Joni Mitchell to us? You have been 1155 01:26:36,319 --> 01:26:41,159 Joni Mitchell fan. I love Joony and I'm not I'm not an expert on 1156 01:26:41,239 --> 01:26:45,000 her, but I know that again, she's another lyricist that's mind boggling her 1157 01:26:45,079 --> 01:26:49,079 words. If you just google any song of hers from the seventies, Uh, 1158 01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,920 any song, it's really good poetry, you know, and what a 1159 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:59,960 voice. But she had this uh enrapturing effect on a lot of different guys, 1160 01:27:00,199 --> 01:27:01,399 a lot of different rock stars. You know. They talked about Pattie 1161 01:27:01,399 --> 01:27:06,439 Boyd having songement about it. Lots of people, Johnny Mitchell and you know, 1162 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,159 I read Graham Nash's autobiography, which is a great book. I forgot 1163 01:27:12,199 --> 01:27:14,560 what it's called, but he talks about falling in love with Johnny and they 1164 01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,840 were an item for a while and he really loved her. Yeah, a 1165 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:18,840 lot of the people, you know, a lot of those guys fell in 1166 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,560 love with her and just then there she was like the love lost if you 1167 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:26,119 want to believe it, you know. But well, huh so, but 1168 01:27:26,279 --> 01:27:30,319 so then you were after you left the Crows, you were on earth for 1169 01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:32,520 a while, but then you went back touring again, right, Yeah, 1170 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,640 I had eighteen years to raise three boys with my wife, and then they 1171 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:41,039 got a little bigger. And then I met a bunch of Scottish wild men 1172 01:27:41,119 --> 01:27:44,239 that I fell in love with and went on tour for a year last year 1173 01:27:44,319 --> 01:27:47,600 and as you couple of you guys, are three of you at least see 1174 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,600 us? Fantastic? Yeah, thanks one. When they were they were, 1175 01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:57,119 the group was it's called one Gary Mullen and the Works Gary Mullen and One 1176 01:27:57,239 --> 01:28:01,000 Night of Queen. Yeah yeah, and it's just a Gary's just a dedicated 1177 01:28:01,039 --> 01:28:03,760 Freddie Mercury. Yeah. None of us had to dress up or act like 1178 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,960 any Queen members that we just had to play good and back them up. 1179 01:28:08,079 --> 01:28:12,680 Yep. It was great. He was a dedicated Freddie Mercury. Dedicated Freddie 1180 01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:17,279 Mercury is the words amazing showman and the band was great. And I said 1181 01:28:17,319 --> 01:28:19,800 this before we went to see you, Lewis and I went to see the 1182 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:24,000 will the Theater in Boston, which was a nice little kind of venue, 1183 01:28:24,079 --> 01:28:27,680 you know, nice little theater again gray seats, and it was nice. 1184 01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,039 It was nice. And then we show you at Hampton Beach about three months 1185 01:28:30,119 --> 01:28:34,079 later, and it was insane. It was crazy. It's a different crowd, 1186 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,760 different venue, but man, oh man, the place was just going 1187 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:44,199 crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that's a rock and roll place that that Hampton 1188 01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:48,279 Casino in Beach Casino. Zeppelin played there, you know, the Doors played 1189 01:28:48,279 --> 01:28:53,119 there, played there. Ye. Jethro Tell played there and they had a 1190 01:28:53,119 --> 01:28:59,800 big riot. Wow sixty six man, yeah, wow, that place was 1191 01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:04,560 the dup when the Doors were there. You've been there lately exactly. Anyway, 1192 01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:13,640 it's crazy doors. I saw the doors and I saw nineteen sixty seven, 1193 01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,800 sixty seven, just as like my five became big. They toured and 1194 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:23,640 I saw them. They were okay. But the opening act was Linda Ronstadt 1195 01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,399 and the Stone Pony with the two Eaks. I didn't know at the time, 1196 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,239 but yeah, she's she's pretty good, you know. But there's that 1197 01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:30,880 kind of folk wark, that confidy folk bark. Everyone was there, the 1198 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,800 doors and the doors. They were okay. It was you know, a 1199 01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,960 little too hippie dippy, frankly, but it was okay. It's alright. 1200 01:29:38,039 --> 01:29:40,800 No bass player, which I always bothered me. They had no bass player. 1201 01:29:41,319 --> 01:29:45,960 But even the White Stripes, you know, yeahs and he played a 1202 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:50,079 piano bass, right piano bass with his left hand. Yeah. Yeah, 1203 01:29:50,239 --> 01:29:56,359 it's kind of one. But anyway, now it was the Hollywood Vampires. 1204 01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,239 There you go. Oh Johnny Depp, right, Anny Depp and copy Yep, 1205 01:30:00,399 --> 01:30:02,399 Wow are they good? Joe Perry, Yeah they're good. Yeah, 1206 01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,760 they rocked out their solid excellent, just kick ass rock and roll. You 1207 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:11,720 know, nothing, nothing fancy, but you know, you get Alice Cooper 1208 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,720 as a front man, yeah, a couple of guys from his band, 1209 01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,119 and you got Joe Perry who was playing out of his mind. Yeah. 1210 01:30:18,079 --> 01:30:24,479 You want to see Alice Cooper in a two weeks so yeah, so excited. 1211 01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,359 And then obviously by the time this episode releases, this will already have 1212 01:30:28,359 --> 01:30:30,880 happened. But on Friday, I'm going to see the Pixies. Awesome. 1213 01:30:31,079 --> 01:30:38,760 Wow, we've never seen him live and I'm so excited. That's great. 1214 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,520 I'm sure they'll be great. You like the Texis, you two like the 1215 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,840 Pixies really? Yeah. They were a great band. They inspired Nirvana that 1216 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,239 they were they were way better than everyone thought they were. I'll have to 1217 01:30:48,279 --> 01:30:50,840 re listen, Okay, Yeah, I feel like they were really slept on. 1218 01:30:51,079 --> 01:30:55,960 Like I you know, I grew up with the Pixies and I when 1219 01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,840 I saw those tickets, I'm like that's not I'm not passing that up because 1220 01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:01,960 I don't know if I'll ever get a chance to see them. So my 1221 01:31:02,119 --> 01:31:08,039 husband and I missed a raven our wedding song that we Our first dance song 1222 01:31:08,279 --> 01:31:13,239 was the Pixies. Really yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, that's great. 1223 01:31:13,319 --> 01:31:17,640 I gotta go back and listen to them, because you know, to 1224 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,079 come out with an awl and some guy can be at the side and pepper, 1225 01:31:21,199 --> 01:31:24,239 which everyone kind of does, you know what I mean. But I 1226 01:31:24,359 --> 01:31:26,520 just thought it was a funny thing to compare it to them, because it 1227 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:31,720 just sounded like a lot of yellmen squeaming to me. I'm sorry, generation, 1228 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:33,520 Hey man, you don't have any cats? Do you? Do you 1229 01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:38,720 have any cats? Me? Yes, No, No cats were dog people 1230 01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:43,359 dogs. See everyone here has cats. You're in the minority. Yeah, 1231 01:31:45,119 --> 01:31:49,680 I'm both people twenty minutes about cats. Cats are beautiful. I'm not against 1232 01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:56,279 cats. Ahead, what kind of dogs? Two doodles have poodle mixes, 1233 01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,079 So they're really cute. They have long noses, money looking faces, and 1234 01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:03,920 they're very intelligent and very weird. Oh really cool. Yeah. One of 1235 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:08,720 them is a golden doodle, half Golden Retriever half to Yeah, and then 1236 01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:14,840 an Australian shepherd doodle Assy doodle, other great dogs. That's funny, yeah 1237 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:19,720 yeah, yeah, that's someone has bred a miniature German shepherd. Just seeing 1238 01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:24,800 that miniature German shepherd. It's a miniature German shepherd. Yeah. We clergy 1239 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:30,079 legs like someone stole his legs. Yeah, with like a husky. There 1240 01:32:30,079 --> 01:32:33,720 they're doing it with all the baker It's literally just a shrunken down version right 1241 01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:38,000 yeah, yeah, regular dog. Yeah. Yeah. The dog doesn't know 1242 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:42,359 yah does just can't run. Yeah, you can't run very fast, little 1243 01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:46,399 legs. It's stuck in the snow. So you you toured with the Queen 1244 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:50,119 Band for about a year, right, yeah, but you're eleven months I 1245 01:32:50,119 --> 01:32:55,159 think or ten months okay, And and that was great. You loved it, 1246 01:32:55,279 --> 01:32:58,199 You fell back in love with that type of thing. Yeah, well 1247 01:32:58,199 --> 01:33:00,720 I loved it. It was like a miniature version of the fourteen Years and 1248 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,199 counting crows to say that. I loved it for three months or four months, 1249 01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:08,479 and then I started to miss home and family and just being still in 1250 01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,680 one place with cancer, which I hears a homebody, you know, and 1251 01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,800 so on girl, water sign, Yes, I'm a water sign, are 1252 01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,640 you what what sig are you? I hear that's the most evolved one there. 1253 01:33:19,119 --> 01:33:26,279 Well, sure awful, Wow, yeah, I'm uh so. I 1254 01:33:26,359 --> 01:33:28,960 just I don't belong out there on the roadboat. Even even though it was 1255 01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,359 the perfect situation. I really loved the band, they loved me. I 1256 01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,600 loved the really good guys. They were good guys, yes, yeah, 1257 01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,920 but I just couldn't do it. I couldn't keep up the pace. Yeah, 1258 01:33:38,039 --> 01:33:42,119 right, right? Is it? This? One of the Rolling Stones 1259 01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:45,479 either wrote a book. His quote was five years working, twenty five years 1260 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:53,119 hanging around. Yeah, you know, and I was Charlie Watts, so 1261 01:33:53,319 --> 01:33:55,279 you could kind of see that in a way. I mean, you know, 1262 01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:59,600 they were like so huge, but but you are. Do you spend 1263 01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,159 a typical day just kind of hanging out and waiting for the show, waiting 1264 01:34:02,199 --> 01:34:04,479 and waiting, waiting, and then you do it and then you collapse and 1265 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:08,680 it's that's all over again. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of time 1266 01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,159 on a bus or I guess if you're in the Stones, it's a lot 1267 01:34:11,199 --> 01:34:13,800 of time in a private plane. They would set up a home base in 1268 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:17,319 Chicago and fly private to their gigs every day all around the Midwest. That's 1269 01:34:17,359 --> 01:34:26,640 the way. Yeah, why not playing back, you know in the day 1270 01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:31,640 off turks and cakes and you know it must be nice, yes, yeah, 1271 01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,079 but you know someone has to do it. And they're doing it, 1272 01:34:34,199 --> 01:34:38,479 you know what I mean, they're they're they're doing it. And you saw 1273 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,680 some of that. You guys toured with the Rolling Stones back in the Yeah, 1274 01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,720 we did a few shows the Voodoo Lounge, or we did all around 1275 01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:46,279 the middle of America actually Midwest. And that's when I learned about their Chicago 1276 01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,640 home base. Yeah, we're driving me on a nice bus, so I 1277 01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:54,199 can't complain, but we're they did they let you stay there with them? 1278 01:34:54,319 --> 01:34:55,920 Or they're like, oh no, no, you gotta go back on your 1279 01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,159 bus. Yeah, no, they didn't know that we couldn't get on They 1280 01:34:58,199 --> 01:35:00,039 wouldn't fly, Like if we played in Nashville, they would go fly a 1281 01:35:00,119 --> 01:35:03,760 private plane back to Chicago that night, so we couldn't get on the plane 1282 01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:08,359 with them. But what what a lifestyle. But it had to be Wicked 1283 01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,600 five. But they were good guys? Were they good guys? Are they 1284 01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,000 just as an outside of looking in and they had to be Wicked five? 1285 01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,000 Yes, and Mac they were all really nice people. They were really good 1286 01:35:16,079 --> 01:35:20,119 people. In fact, I had a feeling that when you're at the mountaintop, 1287 01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:25,920 it's easy to just be a be decent and be nice to people. 1288 01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,560 They're taking all their opening bands are welcome to come to their their dressing area, 1289 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,439 which isn't stadiums, so it's like a you know, size of a 1290 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:38,239 house and the backstage area, and they have a snookers table and we'd play 1291 01:35:38,359 --> 01:35:41,960 there and you know, Ron Wood would come up and help me to take 1292 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,279 a shot and show me the right way to do it and then walk away, 1293 01:35:44,279 --> 01:35:46,800 and you know, they just let us into their house, and that 1294 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,960 is very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have 1295 01:35:49,039 --> 01:35:51,880 to be a dick because you're on top of the mountain, like you say, 1296 01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:55,840 you know, you on the field er. Yeah, but some reck 1297 01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:59,680 styles are jerks, right, oh yeah. And I've come to realize in 1298 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:00,960 life. I wish I knew this younger. But if you're a jerk, 1299 01:36:01,279 --> 01:36:04,520 it means you're hiding something, that means you're hurting your limitations. You're afraid 1300 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:09,359 of showing your limitations. Yeah yeah, yeah, and it's it's cowardice is 1301 01:36:09,399 --> 01:36:15,960 what makes people interest. I mean, you know the story of not to 1302 01:36:15,039 --> 01:36:17,920 talk to anyone that that, you know, but the story of the Eagles, 1303 01:36:18,039 --> 01:36:20,680 for instance, it's turned into a music segment, The Story of the 1304 01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:28,279 Eagles written from the guy who wrote Hotel California, Don Felder basically wrote that 1305 01:36:28,359 --> 01:36:31,079 song. And there's one song. I never have to hear that again. 1306 01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:36,319 Okay, I've heard of once twice. That's enough. But that's a huge, 1307 01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:41,279 huge song, huge song. And they're a huge band and their greatest 1308 01:36:41,359 --> 01:36:44,680 hits was a huge ahead. They thought they were breaking up and all of 1309 01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:50,039 a sudden, but the two Glen Fry and the other guy who's still around, 1310 01:36:51,039 --> 01:36:56,720 Don Hamlet, just had this thing about it's gonna be us, It's 1311 01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,039 not going to be these other guys, you know, and they would they 1312 01:36:59,079 --> 01:37:03,680 would constantly bullying these guys. Don Fry was really Clint Fry was really really 1313 01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:09,560 bad to their help and their roadies and making fun of people with disabilities and 1314 01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:15,520 stuff. There wasn't really really nasty, nasty stuff because in their mind, 1315 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,399 the other guys in the band were just one second away from taking over, 1316 01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,359 you know, I mean, the other guys in the band who were the 1317 01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:25,159 musicians. Let's Fay said, from taking over. And if you listen to 1318 01:37:25,239 --> 01:37:28,279 Ton filled his book, which you know it was Watson all he said, 1319 01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:30,840 the last thing I want to do was you know, be Eagles Incorporated. 1320 01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,840 You know, we just wanted to play. And those two guys, every 1321 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,960 mind of the day, were worrying about this and that and pretty calculating. 1322 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,479 It's sad. It was a sad story because he didn't enjoy one minute of 1323 01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,119 it. Uh huh. Yeah. But there's so many types of there's so 1324 01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:47,960 many ways to be a broken person. And when you get in the band, 1325 01:37:48,359 --> 01:37:50,880 you're going to be in there with probably somebody who's in charge. It 1326 01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:55,920 might be broken in some way or another, whether they're a tyrant or a 1327 01:37:56,079 --> 01:38:00,119 narcissist or I don't know, even a manic depressive. And I mean, 1328 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,279 God bless them all for having whatever diseasi they have to work through. But 1329 01:38:03,319 --> 01:38:08,159 you have to live with them as your boss in a decade and that's not 1330 01:38:08,279 --> 01:38:12,159 easier. Yeah, and does it? Does? Does it? Yeah? 1331 01:38:12,199 --> 01:38:13,840 They say what the Beatles, You just say, you know, when we 1332 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,000 hated each other, but when we started playing, everything was okay. Does 1333 01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:21,000 playing the show even everything out of you know, forgive and forget for two 1334 01:38:21,039 --> 01:38:26,960 hours. Yeah, there's that definite energy that comes from having you know, 1335 01:38:27,119 --> 01:38:30,159 five thousand or twenty thousand people yelling at you and happy that you're there, 1336 01:38:30,319 --> 01:38:33,159 and uh, it pumps up your ego, I guess, you know. 1337 01:38:33,359 --> 01:38:38,399 So you spend every night trying to wind down on the bus and get some 1338 01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,840 sleep, and then every day trying to gear up for the night's concert again, 1339 01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,520 over and over. You know. Yeah, yeah, years and years 1340 01:38:45,159 --> 01:38:53,199 I've ever seen that with August and everything else on regular airplay with a number 1341 01:38:53,239 --> 01:38:58,359 of tracks from it. You're competing with a lot of name acts in the 1342 01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:00,920 early nineties, in the middle of the nineties, where'd you think of that 1343 01:39:01,079 --> 01:39:08,239 intensity with with the amount of rising stars that were, you know, really 1344 01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:12,800 hitting the alternative airway competition nineties? Yeah, yeah, well, the nineties 1345 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,720 were a weird time looking back at it. It was the grunge era kind 1346 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:19,720 of coming and turning into an Americana thing with Hoody and the Bluefish and Counting 1347 01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:26,960 Crews and uh and everyone had their flannels and I don't know, it's it's 1348 01:39:27,239 --> 01:39:34,640 odd. Yeah, the Smashing Pumpkins and teesche Mode that really walk in Tool 1349 01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:41,279 yeah, corn Yeah, it got more aggressive with Tool and corn yeah, 1350 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:49,199 melon mel blind melon blind melon, yeah, exactly. Yeah, but everyone 1351 01:39:49,279 --> 01:39:53,000 was getting their major label record deals in the night. It was a strange 1352 01:39:53,079 --> 01:39:57,399 time. You know. It was all about radio airplay and you know Saturday 1353 01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:01,960 Night Live and Letterman and so you did SAT you played set live, right, 1354 01:40:02,119 --> 01:40:04,880 yeah? And how long how long had you been in the band when 1355 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:10,199 that happened? By doing the band in the fall of nineteen ninety when it 1356 01:40:10,279 --> 01:40:13,520 was starting, I was one of the co founders. We did Saturday Night 1357 01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:17,000 Live I think in ninety ninety three, January of ninety three, okay, 1358 01:40:17,079 --> 01:40:20,960 so two years. Yeah, yeah, we had finished our making our record. 1359 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:26,319 We recorded our record in ninety two and it was out in the fall. 1360 01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,199 I'm sorry, it was out in the fall of ninety three, I 1361 01:40:29,319 --> 01:40:31,880 think, and it was January ninety four we played Satday Night Live. And 1362 01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:36,680 the Saturday Night Live is what really broke the band because it was the record 1363 01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:41,960 had been out for about five months and had sold a total of forty thousand 1364 01:40:42,359 --> 01:40:45,680 record We were going on CD sales back then, and everyone was thrilled, 1365 01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,359 and the label was like, this is a good start the next record, 1366 01:40:48,399 --> 01:40:53,199 We're gonna do some more. And then Saturday Night Live we played it in 1367 01:40:53,279 --> 01:40:55,920 the week later we had sold one hundred thousand records and it was like that 1368 01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:59,800 for the next seven or eight months. Man, the power of that show 1369 01:41:00,119 --> 01:41:02,359 is crazy. It's not funny, but it has showcased a lot of bands. 1370 01:41:03,039 --> 01:41:08,239 Yeah, yeah, makes or breaks, you know, And so how 1371 01:41:08,279 --> 01:41:11,199 do you find that out? Who does do they contact you? What does 1372 01:41:11,239 --> 01:41:15,000 your management? You know? I had this habit of calling the management every 1373 01:41:15,039 --> 01:41:16,680 week and saying, how many sales this week? Yeah? Yeah, you're 1374 01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,520 the guy. Okay, Yeah, I was obsessed with it. A couple 1375 01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:23,279 other guys did the two, but I was I was just curious. It's 1376 01:41:23,319 --> 01:41:26,119 a smash record, and is it still a smash this week? Yeah? 1377 01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:30,079 So it still is June March, April May, so no smash mach Still 1378 01:41:30,079 --> 01:41:32,600 it's number three. It didn't go to number one, but the second record 1379 01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:38,359 was released as a number one record. Yeah, really didn't sell as well. 1380 01:41:38,399 --> 01:41:41,880 It wasn't as classics. Still a really good record. The first album 1381 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,319 was really Yeah, the first album was really. That's a good record, 1382 01:41:44,399 --> 01:41:45,520 yeah, that first one. Yeah, and you've told me to kind of 1383 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,840 the inside stories for some reason. August and everything after I think my daughter 1384 01:41:49,279 --> 01:41:57,000 and my daughter saw you guys with me at the show in Lowell and the 1385 01:41:57,199 --> 01:42:01,439 sound The house sound guys asked my daughter if if they wanted if she wanted 1386 01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:05,079 to sit on their riser and watch the show from their vantage point, and 1387 01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:09,600 they were they had previously been working directors for The Stone. We know what 1388 01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,680 that means. I was talking to them all the time during this, during 1389 01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,560 the staging, and I told you a million times I was a union guy 1390 01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:20,319 doing that stuff. And they had a mosh pit there, and as Alison 1391 01:42:20,399 --> 01:42:25,399 decided, thanks for the invite to be on the riser watching the show, 1392 01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:31,000 but you wanted to participate in the mash pit? Do you remember the actually 1393 01:42:31,159 --> 01:42:35,439 at a show a few weeks ago, and I hadn't seen this band in 1394 01:42:36,239 --> 01:42:41,920 easily ten years, and I couldn't believe they had two separate mash pits. 1395 01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:45,880 Wasn't like I'm in his bayside, I'm actually wearing the T shirt that I 1396 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:50,680 bought there, and I'm like, I'm in my thirties. I can't do 1397 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:55,479 a mash pit anymore. Ben there done that, And I was just standing 1398 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,920 all the way in the back like watching people and I'm like, I couldn't 1399 01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,399 believe people were still shing. I didn't know it was still a thing. 1400 01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:05,560 People knew it broken hips and stuff now yeah, yeah, like if I've 1401 01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:11,479 tried to do it, I'd be bedridden for a week easily. So Matt, 1402 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,119 I saw a YouTube video view and you were playing. It had to 1403 01:43:15,159 --> 01:43:18,399 be some festival. There were like fifty five thousand people at this thing? 1404 01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:23,399 Was that glass and very something? It looked like, look British. There's 1405 01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:25,479 one called pink pop that we would do. It was really big. That 1406 01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,800 was in Belgium. Where was that? Was that in Brussels? Or okay, 1407 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,079 yeah, this was big? Does that I mean do you get I've 1408 01:43:31,079 --> 01:43:33,479 asked this before? I mean, did you get stage fright? Do you 1409 01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:39,319 are you anxious before you go on? Or because you play so many shows, 1410 01:43:39,359 --> 01:43:43,159 you do it so often that that's the way to conquer any fears. 1411 01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:45,600 It's just keep doing it over and over. And it's a lot like treading 1412 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:49,359 water. If you can play in front of, you know, three hundred 1413 01:43:49,399 --> 01:43:54,039 people in a nightclub in Washington, DC, you can open for eighty thousand. 1414 01:43:54,359 --> 01:43:56,399 It's just like if you can tread water and ten feet of water, 1415 01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:58,960 you can tread water at one hundred feet of water. Yeah yeah, wow, 1416 01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:01,960 wow play the same show, you know? Yeah? Yeah? And 1417 01:44:02,119 --> 01:44:05,279 and so and and and you would so you would play the show and then 1418 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:10,640 uh, with a group, he's involved, you can tell us. I 1419 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:15,920 was just kind to ask about Yeah, they were I somehow, I've always 1420 01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,720 been the kind of a geek, and so I didn't relate on that way. 1421 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:23,239 In fact, I was kind of a nervous Uh you could stay say 1422 01:44:23,279 --> 01:44:27,000 this rock star or whatever. Because when I would meet fans after the show, 1423 01:44:27,079 --> 01:44:30,359 they'd know my name, they'd be shaking and can I can I just 1424 01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:31,840 sign the CD? I would feel bad and give them a hug and say, 1425 01:44:32,039 --> 01:44:34,000 I'm just a you know, it's okay, I'm just a geek candle, 1426 01:44:34,319 --> 01:44:36,479 and then they'd get kind of bummed out. So I learned to try 1427 01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:41,760 to be impressive with them. I wouldn't ruin there and pray their idea of 1428 01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:49,439 what man Ally's confession confession. It's funny like the fans, like the people 1429 01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:55,000 were like bummed out because like I've got to see people and like you know, 1430 01:44:55,159 --> 01:44:58,439 sometimes they kind of mingle and you know, we'll watch the other bands 1431 01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,319 that are on and like I feel like that makes me feel better when I 1432 01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:06,680 see that, Like not this isn't like the way that like like quote unquote 1433 01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:11,119 human side, which like it sounds terrible, but like that's like the only 1434 01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:14,439 way I can like explain it, you know, like I just feel like 1435 01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:16,760 good seeing that, Like it's like a comforting thing to me. Yeah. 1436 01:45:17,159 --> 01:45:20,520 Yeah, maybe my energy was like so nervous or such so geeky that I 1437 01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:28,359 wass wow wow. But I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit. Thanks 1438 01:45:28,399 --> 01:45:31,359 so Rason. But yeah, I so on the whole group of thing. 1439 01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,600 I kind of sideline that whole thing. I didn't I wasn't part of it. 1440 01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:39,680 I don't know what the guys did, uh, I mean they remember, 1441 01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:43,479 they would like I'm kind of the spiritual type because I go to India, 1442 01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,279 I'm looking I'm trying to kick start some machine in my life, and 1443 01:45:46,399 --> 01:45:50,800 so my attention isn't on how beautiful the bartender was in Sweden last night, 1444 01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:55,600 and they about that, and I too, kind of like an outsider sometimes, 1445 01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:59,640 you know, in the band, making sure you packed your burk and 1446 01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:03,359 stuff. Yes, yes, exactly. I don't say that that was a 1447 01:46:03,399 --> 01:46:10,560 fan something from Guns and Roses, just you know a bevy of groupies and 1448 01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:13,960 I saw some of them. Everyone would be twenty feet near them. They 1449 01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:25,399 were looking delete Delete, Wow, I saw it happen. Wow. I 1450 01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,760 Guns and Roses, they they played Fenway Park, I think last night. 1451 01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:35,520 Yeah, I can't believe. I don't know who's in it for sure, 1452 01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:41,279 but really, yeah, they were a little overrated, don't you think, 1453 01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:46,920 Hello a little bit slash slash. Yes, I'm so glad this turned into 1454 01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:53,720 like an unexpected music I enjoyed Guns and Roses definitely. I saw them when 1455 01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:58,239 they came out with two CDs in a row that era yea. The title 1456 01:46:58,239 --> 01:47:01,600 of that was that was the first president I ever bought Lois believe it or 1457 01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:06,439 not. But yeah, I know that's all insight into into the brain of 1458 01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:14,119 Mac maloney, the brain of Lois. But Guns and Poses, come on, 1459 01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:18,000 I mean, they couldn't watch that their video, you know, and 1460 01:47:18,279 --> 01:47:24,399 and they like see, I don't think the Stones ever like did anything outrageous 1461 01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:27,079 just to do something outrageous. I think they just did it, you know, 1462 01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,319 the same with Keith Moon, It wasn't he was just a nut. 1463 01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:32,600 It was just a nut who happened to be Rocks great player. They seemed 1464 01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:36,239 to me, they seemed like there it was very kind of calculated cookiness, 1465 01:47:36,319 --> 01:47:43,479 you know. Yeah, the Stones were life altering to see lives? Has 1466 01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:45,520 everyone's seen this? We went one one and I went a four years ago. 1467 01:47:46,239 --> 01:47:48,960 There's no way I could afford those tickets. Yeah, yeah, it 1468 01:47:49,079 --> 01:47:54,359 was expensive. That was great? Was it? No filter? No filter 1469 01:47:54,439 --> 01:48:01,039 to each other? Nineteen j He just came back. He had postponed stuff 1470 01:48:01,039 --> 01:48:04,079 for about a month and then he came back for his hot thing. And 1471 01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:09,039 they were great. They were I went on, I want to talking me 1472 01:48:09,079 --> 01:48:12,359 into it, and I remember thinking, well, I meant someone said, 1473 01:48:12,359 --> 01:48:15,359 you've probably said if you don't do it now, when you're gonna see them, 1474 01:48:15,399 --> 01:48:16,800 you know, And and I thought, well, this would be the 1475 01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:20,039 closest to see in the Beatles because the the Beatles. So we went was 1476 01:48:20,079 --> 01:48:24,199 in Gillette Stadium. We're up close. It was the great seats. In 1477 01:48:24,319 --> 01:48:27,520 twenty seconds, I turned them and said, they're great. They're just yeah, 1478 01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,720 they're great. And they were great. I think you're gonna like the 1479 01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,119 show. They tend not to mail it in. They do not mail it 1480 01:48:33,199 --> 01:48:35,199 in. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Yeah. Yeah, 1481 01:48:35,199 --> 01:48:39,159 they were. They're an education on how rock and roll should go. 1482 01:48:39,399 --> 01:48:42,920 Yeah, yes, and the song writing, like they go into tumbling dies 1483 01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:47,199 and then you know, like the brass and the backup seat. Yeah, 1484 01:48:47,279 --> 01:48:50,960 yeah, that's cool. And then the application is so sloppy and beautiful. 1485 01:48:51,039 --> 01:48:54,680 Yeah it's it's a real. Yeah, it's a real I want to say, 1486 01:48:55,119 --> 01:49:00,319 shows not like a formula formulaic. Yeah, you know, like it's 1487 01:49:00,359 --> 01:49:02,039 going to sound like the record. No, no, no, no record. 1488 01:49:02,119 --> 01:49:05,359 That sounds better. I was going to sound right, Yeah, sounds 1489 01:49:05,399 --> 01:49:09,159 different on every show. Well they show up and they play, yes, 1490 01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:12,800 the show. I mean you should be worried if it sounds exactly like the 1491 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,960 record because that's suspicious. Yeah. Yeah, that's like my thoughts. Like 1492 01:49:16,199 --> 01:49:18,520 when I go to see shows, I expect it to be different, and 1493 01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:21,880 I like that it's different. You know, like I feel like what they 1494 01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:27,159 just had that video of a Cardi B whipping her microphone at somebody. She 1495 01:49:27,319 --> 01:49:29,479 had every right to do it. They threw a freaking drink at her, 1496 01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:34,600 but the track kept playing. That sucks, But I'm like, wow, 1497 01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:38,000 that's what's going on a lot of that, Like, you know, I 1498 01:49:38,119 --> 01:49:40,439 understand like, yeah, she got a drink thrown at her, but they 1499 01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:45,479 paid money to see her and she's not really performing. Yeah that's what is 1500 01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,199 she kind of harmonizing with herself, like the backing track is like a different 1501 01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:55,520 it's just like a layered sounding nerve there, Okay, Taylor Swift. She 1502 01:49:56,079 --> 01:50:00,279 but I saw the video and it was like it was like that, actually, 1503 01:50:00,319 --> 01:50:04,560 Simpson, and that was talking about ending the starting career is an ending 1504 01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:11,880 career? Is when she I heard that she had asked people, like a 1505 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,680 couple of minutes earlier to throw water on her because she was hot up on 1506 01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,279 stage. And then she moved to a different part of the stage and this 1507 01:50:16,399 --> 01:50:21,520 person threw a drink at her. So she had been but she had been 1508 01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:26,319 asking people to throw water on her supposedly, I don't know what you wanted. 1509 01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,479 And then when this person did it, they did it. Their timing 1510 01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,199 wasn't great, and they threw it at her when she moved about ten feet 1511 01:50:32,239 --> 01:50:35,000 down the stage, and then she got pissed off and through the mic adam, 1512 01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:38,920 which people are going, well, you know those people over there did 1513 01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:40,920 it, and you asked him to do it. Now we were just continuing 1514 01:50:41,039 --> 01:50:44,319 her. So I don't know, sing, sing, sing, And what 1515 01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:49,479 about Taylor Swift's piano playing a Gillette by herself? I mean it was pouring 1516 01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:51,880 rain, I mean, and you know I got to give the girl credit. 1517 01:50:53,279 --> 01:50:57,199 She stood out there in the rain and it was raining buckets. It 1518 01:50:57,359 --> 01:51:00,079 wasn't just like a light rain. And she stood there for two hours and 1519 01:51:01,039 --> 01:51:04,880 did show. And then the next night, same place. You know, 1520 01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:10,119 her piano started playing itself. Okay, matt, let me just ask forgot 1521 01:51:10,159 --> 01:51:12,640 about five minutes, Leven, Let me ask you just this question. Wouldn't 1522 01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:16,560 it be hot At one of the Gillette shows he talked about the other day 1523 01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:20,000 at w what happened was what the coach of the Patriots. Oh he was 1524 01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:24,560 been Bill Peli and c Taylor Swift. He should be in studying the book 1525 01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:29,119 with the rest of the team. So she was tough. She was calm 1526 01:51:29,239 --> 01:51:32,079 down, listen, Matt, let me just ask you real quick, okay, 1527 01:51:32,079 --> 01:51:36,039 because we're running out of time. Wouldn't it be hotter? Wouldn't it 1528 01:51:36,119 --> 01:51:40,920 be easier just to get a band that could play the song instead of having 1529 01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:44,760 to sync up? I can see a lot of moving pots when you're when 1530 01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:49,560 you're you know you, when you're lip syncing playing music. It playing music 1531 01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:53,680 is bliss for a musician. And it's a shame that the bands will go 1532 01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,760 up there and lip sync and just pretend maybe they're tired or they're just tired 1533 01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,359 of touring and they kind of give up and just don't want to put in 1534 01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:03,000 an effort. But to be in the Rolling Stones would be bliss because, 1535 01:52:03,159 --> 01:52:06,399 like one one said, you don't play anything the same twice. You just 1536 01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:10,640 you just play. What if you feel out the stadium and you feel out 1537 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:14,800 your baits and yourself and you play what you want and everyone trusts that you're 1538 01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,479 not going to suck. And you know, the nineties was a bad time 1539 01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:21,840 for bands because in counting Crows is responsible for this too, is that we 1540 01:52:23,159 --> 01:52:27,159 we'd practice and then go play what we practiced, you know, because if 1541 01:52:27,199 --> 01:52:30,159 anyone started to do something different, there would be this distrust. Well, 1542 01:52:30,199 --> 01:52:33,199 you can't just explore informans, you know, we have to you have to 1543 01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:36,560 play what you practice. And everyone was doing that. Yeah, there's there's 1544 01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:41,159 a level of bands that always will be doing that. And the Stones have 1545 01:52:41,319 --> 01:52:44,479 just blasted out of that box since the sixties. So as opposed to just 1546 01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:46,119 coming in, coming in and playing what you want to play and playing what 1547 01:52:46,279 --> 01:52:51,800 you feel, you're instead you're practicing stuff practice. Yes, yeah, it 1548 01:52:53,039 --> 01:52:55,239 involves a couple of things. You have to not suck. You have to 1549 01:52:55,279 --> 01:52:59,079 be able to explore and do things that don't suck, and your mates have 1550 01:52:59,199 --> 01:53:01,000 to trust you you're not gonna suck. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1551 01:53:01,079 --> 01:53:04,479 I've done recording sessions with musicians like that. There's a guy named Richard Thompson 1552 01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:13,199 Peru. I did a recording session with a songwriter who died named Emmett Rhodes 1553 01:53:13,279 --> 01:53:15,760 in La and Richard came and these they were hard songs, that they were 1554 01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,520 like beatle chords and that they they you don't you don't expect that chord. 1555 01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:24,760 And Richard was gonna solo over this, and I showed him the chord chart, 1556 01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:27,119 which a musician is like a it's like a map for a musician, 1557 01:53:27,239 --> 01:53:29,359 okay, and he didn't want to see it. He just went by ear. 1558 01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,800 So it was like recording with like John Coltrane or something, because it 1559 01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:36,119 hit me the level of this guy's on yeah yeah, normal, yeah yeah. 1560 01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:40,479 You turned on the mics and they go yeah yeah, and you go 1561 01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:43,640 and and and everything you played was great, no bad notes. He took 1562 01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:47,000 like five takes so we could edit them later, and it just hit me 1563 01:53:47,079 --> 01:53:50,600 that that's the level that all musicians should strive for. Nothing less. Yeah 1564 01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:55,399 yeah, yeah, yeah wow. And so another reason to like the sto 1565 01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:59,680 on the stage and like feeling that energy that you're staring at. That's like 1566 01:54:00,079 --> 01:54:02,760 I've never experienced that. That has to be like huge, like that has 1567 01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:06,720 to impact you in some way, you know. Yeah. Yeah. We 1568 01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:11,479 opened for the Stones once in Vienna. This was after the Boodle Lounge two. 1569 01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,560 This was an O three because my dad had just died a month before 1570 01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,239 and we happened to be in Vienna with them and they had us open a 1571 01:54:16,279 --> 01:54:23,399 show and the back is everything okay though, yeah, okay, yeah, 1572 01:54:23,399 --> 01:54:27,560 thanks Ramuh. We opened a show in Vienna for them, and I remember 1573 01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:30,279 the weather was like there were like eighty thousand, ninety thousand people and the 1574 01:54:30,359 --> 01:54:34,399 weather like thunderstorm came and then it cleared up as the moon came out and 1575 01:54:34,479 --> 01:54:38,279 the Stones came. So it's like you're doing a gig with God, is 1576 01:54:38,319 --> 01:54:43,159 what it felt like. You know, It's such a vast arena and the 1577 01:54:43,279 --> 01:54:47,720 weather behaves for you. It was just amazing. I can't imagine that it 1578 01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:49,720 was in Vienna. I don't know the name of it, but it was 1579 01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:55,079 an O three. Probably dad died in April, so it was June or 1580 01:54:55,199 --> 01:54:59,079 July of oh three, The Stones were a tour. They played in Vienna. 1581 01:54:59,359 --> 01:55:02,319 At one of those there was a band. Who's the band who did 1582 01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:10,159 photograph Defth Weapon? Maybe the forty Licks tour because they played, Yeah, 1583 01:55:10,239 --> 01:55:15,000 they once again. They toured for a couple of years in a row, 1584 01:55:15,039 --> 01:55:17,239 which they you know, they don't do that much anymore. But they ended 1585 01:55:17,279 --> 01:55:20,840 up at Fenway part two during that era in two thousand and five, they're 1586 01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:26,439 in Fenway Park. The the guy in Defth Weapon when you know his his 1587 01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,000 the drummer had lost his arm in a car accident, Okay, and so 1588 01:55:30,119 --> 01:55:34,319 then he right and it took them about two years to come back, and 1589 01:55:34,359 --> 01:55:38,199 they basically said to him, you know, we want you to stay. 1590 01:55:38,199 --> 01:55:40,279 If you can figure out a way to stay, we want you to stay. 1591 01:55:40,279 --> 01:55:43,039 And he did. He is you know, a lot of leftos involved 1592 01:55:43,039 --> 01:55:45,159 in his drumming. So when he came back, they were starting a tour 1593 01:55:45,279 --> 01:55:48,640 and they decided they weren't going to make a big deal out of it. 1594 01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:53,039 They were just going to introduce him, you know, as part of the 1595 01:55:53,119 --> 01:55:56,000 band halfway through the show whenever they would do it, you know, But 1596 01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:59,880 when they walked out on stage, everyone saw this guy, and the guy 1597 01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:02,840 I think is leading. His name is Joe Elliott. He says it was 1598 01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:08,600 like fifty thousand people turned on their hair driers and I just got hit. 1599 01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:13,319 We just got hit with this, you know, people screaming for this guy, 1600 01:56:13,439 --> 01:56:15,920 you know. And I thought that was an interesting way of fifty thousand 1601 01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:19,359 hand driers. Yeah, that like that like electricity almost like just kind of 1602 01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:24,760 force it. Yeah. Yeah, And he didn't know. They didn't know, 1603 01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:28,039 and probably the drummer himself didn't know that. You know, people felt 1604 01:56:28,079 --> 01:56:30,680 this way, you know what I mean that they felt this way. They 1605 01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:32,720 thought they were they were going to lowball it, you know. But yeah, 1606 01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:38,880 that's where I also saw that it's a young man's game, because I 1607 01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:41,720 don't know if I'm developing a nice anxiety disorder as I get older. But 1608 01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:45,399 there was one show with the Queen Band I did last year in Chicago and 1609 01:56:45,479 --> 01:56:47,399 a little abrena that holds about forty five hundred people, and they sold it 1610 01:56:47,439 --> 01:56:50,960 out, so forty five hundred people came. And when I was backstage getting 1611 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:56,000 a little nervous because me and the keyboards were talking and realizing it's like we're 1612 01:56:56,039 --> 01:57:00,279 throwing a party. And there's only five of us, and hundred people have 1613 01:57:00,399 --> 01:57:02,079 come to our party. Yeah, look at us. So what if my 1614 01:57:02,199 --> 01:57:06,560 pants fall down? You know, like I guess she gots kind of scared. 1615 01:57:08,079 --> 01:57:09,880 I was younger. I didn't think of any of that. You know. 1616 01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,520 It wasn't a huge show, but it was sold out and they were 1617 01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:16,159 really excited, and it's just final us. Yeah, I mean, doesn't 1618 01:57:16,199 --> 01:57:20,239 seem isn't I mean, isn't it funny? Like just about my own experience 1619 01:57:20,239 --> 01:57:24,760 would get like two minutes? It's funny for me to think someone buying one 1620 01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:27,600 of my books, you know what I mean. I can't. I can't 1621 01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:31,119 close my eyes and imagine someone you know buying it and U huh, you 1622 01:57:31,199 --> 01:57:34,199 know, and and and I'm wondering if it's it's almost like the same things. 1623 01:57:34,239 --> 01:57:38,359 It wasn't Todd in the beginning to think, Wow, someone is buying 1624 01:57:38,399 --> 01:57:42,960 tickets to come and see us. Yeah, yeah, and records good money 1625 01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,640 for it too. And also last year with the Queen Band, I learned 1626 01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:47,239 that I'm just not suited to live on the road. I don't want to 1627 01:57:47,239 --> 01:57:50,119 live on the road. Yeah, how about if you had a private jet? 1628 01:57:50,279 --> 01:57:55,720 Yeah? Maybe I think about it. Okay, which makes the monkey 1629 01:57:55,800 --> 01:58:00,600 dance. That's a good tattoo. Thank you Matt to join me us. 1630 01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:04,079 We really appreciate it. We're going to clap you off and make it sound 1631 01:58:04,119 --> 01:58:08,039 like fifty thousand people. Thank you, Matt. We really appreciate it. 1632 01:58:08,359 --> 01:58:11,680 And we're gonna wrap up the show. So thank you Switchy. Thank you 1633 01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:15,199 for Switchy for joining us. He has the train wreck baure and out, 1634 01:58:15,239 --> 01:58:19,199 don't get away driving. Thank you glad to be here one one. We'll 1635 01:58:19,239 --> 01:58:23,079 talk to soon. All right, thanks, thank you. Every report from 1636 01:58:23,119 --> 01:58:27,359 the coma pleasure was all mine. He being on the tonight se Alanta doing 1637 01:58:27,399 --> 01:58:30,159 Matt Mai. He's gonna be our Raven, thank you for joining us. 1638 01:58:30,239 --> 01:58:34,680 Raven. You made our night's delights all as usual and we're loving the here. 1639 01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:39,239 And we took a vote behind your back. We love to hear yes. 1640 01:58:40,119 --> 01:58:42,600 Six week in a row. It's all right. We're perfect. So 1641 01:58:43,199 --> 01:58:46,600 thank you, Raven. We'll talk to some and very quickly. Homestrut Troops 1642 01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:49,239 somes the Troops is an organization. They raised his money for our veterans who 1643 01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:54,640 came home from the Iraqi Afghan Wall missing a limb or whatever. They build 1644 01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:58,520 them houses especially adapted to their knees. That means low conno space, low 1645 01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:01,039 tables, very sustaous of that nature. And then they build them the house. 1646 01:59:01,119 --> 01:59:03,199 And once it's built, they rip up the mortgage. They give them 1647 01:59:03,199 --> 01:59:06,479 the keys. It's their house forever and they can go out and rejoin society 1648 01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:12,039 and not have to worry about having a mortgage payment over their heads every month. 1649 01:59:12,239 --> 01:59:15,880 Holmstro Our Troops ninety per cent, ninety well ninety cents of your dollar, 1650 01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:18,000 ghosts our veterans, So please google them, see what they're about. 1651 01:59:18,199 --> 01:59:21,039 Holmstro Our Troops. And I think that's it. Gang. So this is 1652 01:59:21,039 --> 01:59:26,399 mac mmoney for the entire gang saying, tell you here is next time, 1653 01:59:26,479 --> 01:59:29,600 Be safe, be happy, and bye bye