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David Ya. Hello, and welcome to the show. I'm David Young.
Now this past weekend we've had the Mini Awakening conference in Bolton, and the
guest on this show is the MC from that conference or convention, whatever you
want to call it. And her name is Hollywood. Now stick with me
here because I'm going to actually ask Colley how she came to have that name.
Now I'm going to waste no more time because I'm eager to talk to
Holly. I'd like to welcome Hollywood to the show. Hello, Holly,
Welcome to the show. Thank you. So much for having me. I'm
so glad that I could be here. No, I'll very please to have
you all. I'll tell you what this this clear one little thing up before
we start. Your name, what's coming? Is it? This? Your
name's Hollywood? Is that your real name? That is my real name?
I've probably been asked it three times really today. I know it's just the
fact that we've got people listed out there and they'll be thinking, is that
a real name? Really? So obviously this is going out quite a wide
audience. So there you go. It is your real name. But I
think you've got a middle name, Holly Ann Wood. Is that right,
Hally Elmwood. Yeah. So my parents intentionally did it. They denied all
knowledge till I was in my late thirties and I actually found some evidence.
So unfortunately my mom passed and as I was dealing with heigh affairs, I
found a small book that had a boy's name on jack. There's no Jackson
our family. So I read the book because I'm very nosy, and it
was a journal she wrote to her bump, which was me. They thought
it was going to be a boy, but I'm like several pages in,
she writes, if you were a girl. Imagine we called you Holly Hollywood
half, so I knew there was an intention there. But yes, it's
my real name. And I throw Anne in there because sometimes the questions never
start. So, yes, Hollywood is my real name. I think it's
great. I thank you associationally. Does the name become the person you should
have gone off to Hollywood and said, look, more, name's Hollywood.
You've got to give me a job as a film star. You know that
the ten to fifteen years I spent in drama school was just to get me
under that Hollywood sign. But hopefully this year I will be out in La
so with love it. So you're going to hang out at Paramount Studios or
you or something. I'm just going to hang out underneath the Hollywood. So
I just put the opportunity. I think it would I think it would be
fabulous to have me the same. Facts are Paramount Studios. I don't know
if it's still going, is it anyway? Too? A few of them
went, didn't they? But anyway, some other exciting news and something we've
got to put straight. Also, now this show is going out on the
nineteenth, but you're MCing on the seventeenth the Awakening, So unfortunately we can't
we can't talk about the pasting because it hasn't happened yet. But what we
can talk about what you're expecting to happen. And then on the on the
Monday, when the show goes out, we'll see if it all came out
through, so it would be fabulous. It was a great show. It
went so well. Yeah, so I am the official MC for the show
at the conference which went out on Saturday, which is on Saturday, but
it's actually because we were recording this now today which I don't know what day
is, but it's actually a couple of weeks a wife, yeah, next
weekend. Yeah, so yes, it's a show by the team, the
Awakening team Steve Mehrah, great guy, lovely person. He very kindly asked
me to host their event, which when people are listening to this, it
would have happened. It will have happened. It's the Dark Side of Uphology
with a phenomenal lineup of speakers, Mark Ollie, Steve Mehra himself, by
Fitzgerald, they can seller twins and from the States, Nathaniel Gillis so and
of course how could I forget my friend and absolute wonder Paul Sinclair. I
adore, I adore, great man, great family, wonderful, wonderful guy.
So we're again the show. We're great. It's going to be great,
and I'm so lucky and great grateful that as a female as well and
if male dominated world, that I get to delve into the dark side of
your apology with an incredible lineup of speakers. It's happening at the Albert Hall
in Bolton and then you may have actually not been to before, so yeah,
it's yeah, you've got there's some great names there. I mean to
be as we know it's gonna I know it's going to be a great show.
Call it a show, I mean a great event, as shall we
say, because I know all the people that are going all personal friends of
my own. Actually apart from Nathaniel Geese, I don't actually know him,
but all the others I do and they're all friends. So and I know,
I know it's really a great event. But yeah, I'll have to
try. I'm hoping it I'll get Unfortunately I haven't been. I can't go
on to the events. So on the Monday that what you're listening to this
I haven't been to it, right, I'm sorry. I've been to it
and it was great, and already know. I already know it's going to
be great. But has been on the show. Pall's been on the show
a couple of times. Model he has been on the show a few times,
and also the Conservatories have been on several times, so I already know
what's in store for the audience there. And obviously they have already They've already
seen it by now anyway, so I know they won't be disappointed. But
anyway, I suppose we going to be a good show. Well it's a
kind of a skip over it now. And you have a podcast of your
own and it's called Into the Weird. Yeah, yeah, So I do
various things. I do have have a show Into the Weird, But predominantly
my sort of media, so to speak, is I host a lot of
live conversations on x formerly Twitter. That that's probably where my focus mostly is
as opposed to doing podcasts at the moment. And I've been so blessed and
lucky that I get to interview, well in converse with some of the greatest
minds in the phenomena. Last week only I had a conversation with Peter Lavender,
the Marco Visconti. I've been so blessed, Ross Coulthart, Cheryl Costa,
Steve Marra, Paul Sinclair. You know I've been, and you're so
lucky. Now you're coming on definitely, Well what I love you to do?
Now you're coming on what I love to do is and you'll know this
as well. The Americans tend to have a bigger voice in this environment.
And as a Northern girl, if you can't tell my accent as a Northern
girl in a very proud brit I like to bring some of the British voices
into those environments. So Paul, you know, was one of my first
victims, and I hold X spaces. I try to do them as often
as I can. I try to bring all different types of people from across
the phenomena because it's not just about UAP or UFOs, you know, it's
about the paranormal, it's about the supernatural, it's about the consciousness elements.
So I like to cover the whole spectrum and it goes really well. We
have thousands of people listen and replays and I just I get to speak to
people who I admire. How cool is that. This is the great thing
about it, the amount of people because you had to have a show like
this something I've found it myself. Often you can go to people say,
look, I've got the radio show. What was you a lot to come
on a su uess And it's great. You know, you do get the
chance to actually approach these people when other times you wouldn't be able to do
that, would you. So as the reason I do this show, I
mean, I'm learning as much as say anything. This is why I do
it. I'm learning myself really And also you're probably seeing, much like I
do, there's a lot of connections between all these supernatural events or apparent all
the events, not UFO's ups interdimensional stuff. A few years ago, I
couldn't see those connections, but beginning to see as time goes on, there's
really everything's connected, you know, one hundred percent. And that's how I
came into this community. Actually I was, you know, I was.
I'm an experience, had experiences when I was a child, and always had
a bit of a fascination for UFOs and but I've also got a great love
for consciousness and the expansion of our brains. And our consciousness and how that
works and big meditation person and I kind of stumbled into doctor Stephen Greers C
five and I was able to sandwich the consciousness element and you know, the
UFO stuff, and I was able to sandwich them together. And that was
how I turned up in this community a couple of years ago as someone who
I still don't quite know how, as someone who started to lead C five
or heigh Heights. I refer to more, which is human initiated contact experiences,
so I facilitate those type of expeditions here in the UK as well.
I think quite often these things are actually manipulated so they happen, you know,
so you actually get manipulated into the position where you are I'm pretty sure
up in and manipulated that we were on what I'm doing now. It's funny
you say that, because I was talking to someone earlier about this. Two
and a half years ago. I met Steve Barra. He doesn't know this,
by the way, and I went, doesn't meet you? Well,
I think he does now. And I turned up at his event and I
looked because I put events on and I have it on globally, and I
kind of got chatted to him, and he's so great, and he was
so miniable. He was just chip chating the way he does that. I
think I said, one day I'll be up on that stage just you want
any sort of you know, as Steve does. And look, two and
a half half years later, here I am. I'm seeing at one of
his events. And you know, I'm not extraordinary, there's nothing overly special
about me. But somehow, somewhere, somehow that it aligned. And I
do believe it all happens for some bod design and I am convinced now the
synchronicities. And I say this on my shows. Once you start interacting with
the phenomena, it interacts back, it does, and I think it's all
part and parcel of why I'm here. This is why I'm talking to you.
Yeah, no, definitely, will mean we've better at the last of
weakening. Really, I mean, obviously we've both been floating around the subject
for a while and eventually your pauls have got me, you know, And
I think it's kind of the way things happen, you know, I mean
with friends death, which is great. Well, I don't know too much
about your past, so I mean, you want to tell us, you
said, some you've had your experiences of your own. Yeah, for sure.
So I grew up in a very different type household. So I come
from Irish family, Irish Catholics, but my mum was not. I was
Catholic. She was a witch, She was into the occult, she was
into some interesting stuff. So I was brought up around weirdness. And when
I was about eight or nine, my mum was doing some ritual magic work
in Wiltshire on the Chalk Horse on the hills there, and me and three
other children were just kind of sat there with a kind of pop eat some
crisps, you know, as you do, you know, early nineties,
and we were sat in the eye of the horse and a small golden orange
orb just happened to be there. Now that didn't startle me because weird stuff
happened all the time around my mom because she was magical, So it wasn't
that weird for me. And these little orange sons as I called them,
appeared throughout my childhood and I didn't really think that much of it. You
know, we believed in fairies. My mum conversed with the dead. It
was all just part and parcel. It was only when I got to about
thirteen fourteen, my mum, we were like the first in our road to
have the Internet on a dial up collection, yeah, very well, And
we had this PC that was like huge, installed in a cupboard under the
stairs. And I think the first thing I did was stumble onto something about
Roswell and I was like, oh, and then you know, as the
Internet it does it is. Of course, it wasn't an awful lot around
in those times. It wasn't that much. And I remember stumbling either into
a chat room or something in which all was mentioned and I was like,
ooh, oh, oh, okay, well I've been seeing them, oh
my, oh, my goodness. So I started to put one and one
together. And those orbs have been a recurring theme throughout my life. So,
you know, throughout my teenage years, I was vastly into beseech and
anything I could get my hands on about the phenomena about UFOs, what is
it? You know, I was obsessed with Area fifty one, you know,
I was just in it. And that's kind of what led me to
see five and human initiated contact because again there was talk of orbs, so
I knew these orbs they were familiar to me, so I got into I
think it was the summer of Lockdown. I think I'd been watching some of
Grea's films and I thought, oh, I wonder if there's anyone else like
into it near me. And he has the app. So I went onto
the app and it had a section to find other people local and there wasn't
anybody. So as determined as I am, I thought, well, I'll
just check Facebook see five UK. The whole community popped up in again serendipitously
or by design. The guy gentleman called James Rose, who looks after C
five UK, said well, no one's looking after the north west region,
would you like to me as bold as ever? All right? Cool?
And then that's kind of where probably started to become known in the community,
because I would lead see five events. Out in the field, we would
see orbs, so we would have contact experiences that sort of grew. And
then I am the Daily Mail. I'm a former publicist. I've worked in
the media form a radio presenter. I'm known to the media. A journalist
reached out to me at the Daily Mail and said, you know, we
want to cover the females in ufology in the UK, and would you be
interested. I was like, absolutely, but I'm not going to have a
hit piece. But you're not going to stigmatize me. Yeah, exactly.
And you know, I've got a career. I'm a mom, you know.
I was should I do this? But I did? And then I
just my name just started becoming quite known, certainly on UFO Twitter, and
I then started organizing UFO Twitter weeks and my x spaces. And then someone
suggested, you do like the sound of your own voice, Holly, why
don't you start a podcast? So Into the Weird kind of formed there and
here I am on your show. Yeah, and there you are. And
we must pointed out that you spelt weird as w woy or the ya,
so w I d e is the old English spelling of weird, and I
just put the e on for aesthetics. But I I enjoy history. I
enjoy the magical and mysticism and the ancientness. I don't think that's a word,
but it makes sense of the English language, and in England, you
know, the United Kingdom is such a mythical place, so it just felt
an ode to the past. So into the weird, and you know,
the weird covers all aspects of the phenomena, which is important to me that
it's not just about craft. I'm not a nuts and bolts gal. I'm
not your girl for anything nuts and bolts. But the weird that's where I
can talk forever. Well, I thought, I point it in case someone
scramming for a pin to write it down. Y want to get to the
end of the show. We'll go through all that and make sure we've got
all the things everyone of those what were suppined you and all sorts of stuff
like that. So really, I mean, have you ever seen you of
your own? Also many times, yeah, yes, it's interesting because it's
one of the first questions I'm asked and oh no again, sorry, it's
all right. Let you And last summer we were contacted by a farmer up
near Blackpool and he was having real weird stuff happen on his land. Delivery
drivers refused to drive onto his land because they were reporting orbs and energy swarming
the vehicles. I was like, wow, this is interesting. So I
gathered a team of people from the highest community CE five community, and we
went up there and I took a group of people and I took a skeptic
with me and lo and behold as we entered into this private land. What's
that all right, Holly ha, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we
got out of the vehicle and we're seen a very real pewter gray shaped craft
that had like iridescent fields around it, and that the skeptic I was with
it shattered their worldview and I was like, see, there's something going on.
So I've seen craft like that. I've seen a lot of orbs.
We've seen a lot of sort of flashbulb type orbs and a vehicle it had
very personal experiences with with with beings, if we want to call it that.
Well you u about that, of course, of course, so as
I said earlier, when you it's my belief when you start interacting with the
phenomena, it interacts back. I'd been doing a lot of high C five
and adjacent I was really getting further into consciousness. I'd spent a little bit
of time at the Monroe Institute. I was really you know, into that
side of things. And I took myself into a deep meditation one evening and
the most startling thing happened. It's a little bit hard to talk about.
Actually I'm missing time, which is always an indication of something's off. I'm
missing a couple of hours. I have stark, very stark memories of being
completely paralyzed in my bed. I could hear the dog growling. I knew
I wasn't asleep, but I wasn't fully awake, and there were beings of
sort around me. And I wasn't scared. I was more like WHOA what?
I was startled? And I was. It felt like time just changed.
And it's really hard to describe, but I was aware that there was
others around me, and I sort of came out of it. It is
the only way I can explain. It was dark, It was light when
I started meditating. The dog was cowering. Time had gone and I was
left with some interesting words in my head. They weren't English words, they
were more like sounds and tones. And it was at that time I decided
to kind of chill out on the old C five or heiss stuff until I
really understood what are we summoning? What are we making contact with? And
I firmly do believe that whatever happened to me that afternoon and evening is what
has spared me on to do the work that I do now. With experiences.
I'm also heavily involved with an organization called Unhidden Org, which is a
sort of foundation organization that's in the processor of coming together at the moment that
enables positive conversation around NHI and experiences and mental health and well being. Because
it was after my experience that I was I was compelled to help experiences a
little more. So. Yeah, it was a it was an odd experience,
but one that has certainly set me on a trajectory now to work more
with experiences on a global basis. So did you actually get a sight of
aliance or that you can remember? H It was more like blue light things.
I know that sounds absolutely ridiculous, but I wasn't aware of full body
shapes that had fall. But there was several present, different presences of things.
There were not a form, but they were not not a form,
and it was they were very blue, just like a It's really hard to
describe, and I don't have the vocabulary yet to describe it, but I
was aware of individual presence, a presence of individual beings, but it was
more around light. But the light had substance. It wasn't just light that
you see through the light had substance, and that was the mind bend for
me that how did they get here? What do they want with me?
Is there a reason they're interacting with me? Now? I believe there's.
The answer is, yes, there is a reason. I don't know what
that reason is yet. I'm sure it would become apparent one day. But
there was definite energy that had a substance but not physical form, if that
makes any sense well to me. To me, it makes it sounds like
to me, it's just an idea that it sounds like they may have been
interdimensional bes talking to you through another dimension, and they've got a way of
doing it, you know. And this is why I was saying to you
earlier about the connections with everything that's paranormal. But I think there's a lot
of connections between what we see as ghosts. I do believe there are ghosts
as well, but it's all linked into linked because these these bees can become
ghosts themselves sort of thing. So and this is where where we're all linked,
you know. I don't fundamentally agree. Lots of high strangeness happens around
me. I technology hates me. It's just technology goes wrong around me.
I've never been able to wear a watch. The watch is just stop or
break. Technology just goes pop. That's why when I came on the call,
I was like, can you hear me? Because I have gone through
that many microphones, unreal and a lot of high strangeness because I know it
has actually happened before. There'sh with certain peoples we've had. I did a
show last year and it was live, and my listeners were saying, can
you hear that? Can you hear that? And I couldn't hear it until
I playback, and there was other voices, There was other voices. It
was like someone had a television on in the background and it was coming in
and out, but there was there's nothing else on. And these things have
happened throughout my life. That phenomenon, phenomena of stuff just happens around me
all the time. Well, that's crazy. I wish I'll live near or
be around more often to see what's going on. Do you love a good
ghost hunting? I'm not scared by by stuff like that. You know,
I enjoy the pursuit of investigating the unknown, and because you know it is
all connected, and you know, I stand on business on that one.
It really is all connected. We perhaps don't fully understand how, but how
strangeness happens, and then I have an interaction with the others. So what's
going on there? Right? We mentioned inter dimensional people, but I do
actually believe we're being visited for intepecary people as well low extraterrestrials. Do you
believe that as well? Well? I'm back and forth on this one.
I think the more I get into the community, and the more exposure I
have to eminent academics, you know, thirty forty fifty year long resetchers,
journalists, you know, authors, what have you, my views are starting
to morph. I'm of the opinion now that and again subject to change that
they whoever they may be. I think there's different types, But I think
the others have been here the whole time. They're just beyond what we can
see and interact with all the time. I think the dimensional side of things
is more where I lean to. But again, we just don't know.
We could only just keep investigating and hopefully the phenomena reveals itself to us when
we're good and ready. They're definitely here, they're definitely watching and waiting what
they're waiting for I don't know, but I believe that they've been here.
You know. It's quite interesting. My son, he's you know, preteen,
and he's in a Catholic school and very you know, we don't talk
about this weird stuff. He stood up in class, could have died and
said, my mom said the star of Bethleingham was a UFO. Oh God.
So I think they've been here since before us, And all right,
it sounds very reasonable to me, you know, but I'm not so sure
about the visits from all the star systems. But the universe is so vast,
I just don't know. Well, I mean, to me, it
makes sense because there's probably civilizations that maybe millions of years more advanced than we
are. So to me, it says the reason they could be traveled all
over the place in ways that we have even thought of, you know,
And that's it. It's you know, our understandings of quantum, of the
quantum physics, and you know how all that works. We're just on the
sort of tipping point of starting to understand a little bit of some of that
quantum stuff. And you know, what an exciting time to be alive,
right, and scary in some ways. But so that yeah, that's another
subject. But I mean it stands to reasons when when we hear that people
say that we're the only ones that could be alloyed within the university. Just
it just doesn't make sense at all. Is I would say, there's thousands
of millions of civilizations out there, you know, some less than us and
some a lot more involves than us. And when I say less, I
mean the lower advance time as well. I think our human perception of what
time is isn't actually what time is. And you know, as Tom Delonger
said on interviews before, the universe is teeming with life and who are we,
how how egotistical of humanity to believe where it we're the only ones.
Yeah, it's absolutely true. I mean it's that time. I mean,
I don't know if there could be such a thing as time travel. I
guess it's a it's a possibility. Like you say, no such thing as
time. Really, it's only our perception of time what we we we use
as a measurement. And I was actually speaking to a medium about this,
Rob Thompson, he seems to believe also, I don't you know, he's
on the Ghost Finders he seems to have the same opinion of me, that
everything is on the same sort of timeline more or less, and you can
go into a different timelines will if if you've got the if you've got the
means to do it type of thing, you know. And I think that's
how a lot of mediums work. Actually, they can sort of go to
go to a it's like having a record and find that a groove and you
can I'll go into that groove, you know, or that or that groove
becomes more apparent to them. My mum was, you know, a celebrated
mystic medium, cleverant, whatever, and we call it. We called it
in our family knowing, you know. And I have a little bit of
knowing, and my kid kid does a little bit as well, which is
interesting. My mum would often have knowing about future events and it would come
to fruition. But she could also meet somebody who she'd never met and was
able to pinpoint something that had happened in their families past with no current knowledge.
She was able to get there and get that information and then bring it
out. And watching her ability to do that really did alter my view of
what is time. If we can slip in and out of it through you
know, trance or connection in our brains to the cosmic intelligence. Time is
not what we thinks about. I certainly agree with you on that one.
Well, it's not worth you obviously, it's that other people's not walk clever
than eight. But certainly, I mean, do you actually believe to put
it? Really? I mean, do you believe you real incarnation, because
that's kind of connected with all of that, so that when you when you
die, you're going to another realm, if you like, and it's sort
of like another dimension. Yeah, it resonates with me certainly. I think
there's some very you know, famous cases. I recall years ago watching that
young Scottish boy that remember no he wasn't Scottish, but he remembered being an
older gentleman in the highlands in Scotland and he knew his home and his job
and his family took him there and the six year old knew everything and it's
amazing chills to this day. And I think that the soul, the human
soul, well not even the human sole. I think the soul is part
of this is where I start getting very womb now. I think the soul
transcends the human experience, and I think the soul is what is connected to
the cosmic intelligence. We're not going in a religious direction here, I mean
really you can. You can kind of take things, you know, if
you want to talk it, take it in a religious way, or you
can take it in a yeah, a lot of nature and natural way really
is the way I look at it. Everything's natural, And you know,
I don't think you've got to bring religious in any of that at all,
but I know some people would like to. But yeah, it's a funny
one, isn't it when you get into the religious Yeah, yeah, I
mean to me, I mean that that's caused most of the problems in the
world really when you start looking at the religious well as Jacques Vallet talks about
control systems, you know. Yeah, and you know some of the work
that Diana Paulskat was getting a second name wrong. You know, she's a
some of you know, American Cosmic is a phenomenal book. And yeah,
she's been on my show and listen about year or so think you was doing.
She's just great and I really enjoy seeing a female I've got her book
on my shelf here somewhere yeah, and you know, the work that she
does I think is very inspirational and it gives people the opportunity to view the
religious aspect within this phenomena too. And I think all parts of the conversation
of Alaed, as long as we're treating each other with respect, I'm holding
it up. I can't see it holding the world. It's more, it's
more background. But so, yeah, American cosmic doctor. Well I think
she was doctor professor. She loved you, so yeah, yeah, there
was a great show. I actually remember that. She's a nice person.
Yeah, she's very nice. Yeah. You do you consider yourself clear word
or psychoso if you've got any of those sort of powers, if you like
to call them that. But here's an interesting one for you. And I
know some of the work that you know, Dr Nolan has done over in
Stamford. I have a dah day. I have something called synicsia. Sorry
I've said it wrong, Listeners, Every sound has a color in my brain.
Thursday's green, Wednesdays different. I'm a or a diverse person. I
don't sleep very much, but my intuition game is really, really, really
strong, and you know, I find it very interesting that my high level
intuition often gives me a sense of knowing, and I find it even more
interesting that a significant amount of people within the community or those of us exploring
the phenomena investigating your known are noor a diverse. A significant amount of experiences
are or a diverse, And you know, research and stuff that DTR Nolan's
talked about is in our basal ganglia. I'm no Laura's surgeon, so I'm
getting it wrong. Forgive me, but well, you know more about it
than I do. So well, I sound like I do. But a
couple people in you like know I'm joking, but you know, those on
the spectrum tend to have enlarged somethink in that part of the brain which is
responsible for intuition. Intuition is kind of for me, a stone's throw away
from telepathy. We're using our brains to pick up other signals. So in
answer your question, do I have a sense of knowing? Yes? Do
I use that knowing in my day to day life? Absolutely do. Sometimes
I wish I could turn it off, yeah, because I've become quite overloaded.
If there's a lot of high emotions in the room, it's too much
for me and I was quite, you know, upset to have a label.
She's got ADHD. But now I kind of see that goes part and
parcel with my knowing and my strong intuition, and it now guides me.
I use it as my inner guidance now as opposed to there's just something wrong
with me. I think there's something really right with me, And it's that
sense of knowing an intuition that allows me to do the work that I do
it in this community for sure? Or did you feel that when you were
a child. Do you have something I'm not wrong with you, but something
different about you? And I knew I was different. I always knew I
was different. I had a lot of imaginary friends or were they well,
you know who knows. I was obsessed with the stars. I was obsessed
with constellations. I always felt like I didn't belong. I've always felt homesick.
It's the only way I can describe it. I am a different character.
Most people will attest to that. And as a child, I was
very lonely, very very lonely. I never felt like a fit in.
And I hear that a lot with experiences. We feel different and we know
we're different. And I think that's why experiences when we find each other,
we tend to congregate together because we see that in each other, We see
that sense of something more believed. There's more. There's got to be more,
Like I don't just get up to drive in a car, to go
to a job, to pay bills, Like there has to be more to
this existence. And yeah, now I know when you were talking earlier with
the first thing you mentioned about Orange Abs, I found that very interesting because
you do hear that Carl Orange coming up a lot, and you probably hear
a lot on your shows too. It's a weird one for me because they've
been part of my life, my sort of most recent experience with literally them
being close to me. I had a terrible accident July not last year,
the year before I broke my leg in I remember, I've seen the photos
with the pen and all that year. Yeah, and I was having a
terrible time. My mental health was in the bin. I was an hour
and a half away in a special high dependent unit. They didn't know if
i'd walk again, and one particular night I was not. I didn't want
to be here. I was like I'm done, Like this is too much.
It sounds dramatic, but that's where it was mentally. And I asked
one of the healthcare assistants if I could just look at the stars. And
the hospital was fairly rural, whilst rural as hospitals can be, and we
turned the lights off shape and the blind she went off and ping. You
know, it literally gives me chills. Now, those are in jobs were
there, and it felt like they were there with purpose, like, come
on, girl, we're bigger than this, we're braver than this, we're
bold in this, and it felt like there was an intelligent connection. And
from that moment, and that's when I decided, I'm not going to be
defined by this. I'm going to get through it. I'm not dying.
But it was the interaction that it brought a sense of ease and calm,
and I knew from that moment it was going to be okay. So isn't
that interesting that they decided to show themselves to me? Well, you must
have been given a message to actually want to look at the stalls too,
you know, to get that feeling. Would they tell you things and you
get that idea and you hid you know why? I see it? Anyway,
that's great and it was a turning point for me. It was a
turning point that I knew I was meant to do something in this community.
I knew that I could use my skills in this community. And if I
hadn't have broken my leg, I would have never had the time to do
the research. I would never have the time to engage with the community.
I would have never When in your life do you just you know, before
you're tired, you get a chunk of time. I was on full pay,
so you know, I didn't have any money worries as such, and
I had like six months to totally emerge myself in the phenomena. So isn't
that interesting that I wouldn't be sat here talking to you when I saw that
you look really painful. Well, I don't know, how did you?
Well? What did you do? How did you? Are you ready?
I broke my leg in numerous places and my uncle by falling off a flip
flop. Oh, no, big little shoe, there was flip flop.
I thought you was sort about fair ground, a normal flip flop, a
slider. So I was at our family equestrian farm in Wales. I took
the children out at half seven in the morning. I'd gone to feed some
of the animals. I was walking into the stables. One of our working
dogs went running past. I stepped back some something. It was a freak
accident. As I stepped back, I sort of twisted and the twist spiral
fractured my fibular and tipular and Uncle, well, I could see you were
in a lot of calls here. It was horrible. We won't thinking about
that now. I'm dancing already, and again I'm really pleased to hear it.
Thank you. I'm pleased see that again. That may well have been
a thing that was meant to happen to drive into into this place, now,
you know, like you said, as nasty as it was at the
time, it was probably something to wake you up of some sort, although
you were probably having these experiences without realizing it anyway, And that time I
had, you know, on the backside, just sat reading and researching enabled
me to make connections I wouldn't have ordinarily made. And through having that time,
the Daily Mail article happened. Through the Daily Mail article, I then
formed a company called Investigate the Unknown. We're now about to launch a global
app that enables people to investigate the phenomena. So none of that would have
happened without the leg break. So I'm grateful for it. In a way,
is it because we are more than just meet and bones, As Bob
Monroe says, we are more than our physical bodies. And I'm testament to
that. I was able to take my mind. It was in a lot
of pain. I was on a lot of crazy drugs, but I was
able to take my mind out of my sick body and take my mind into
new places and spaces and learn. And as I said, I formed a
company. We're about to launch an app. All of these things wouldn't have
happened without that. So, in a weird way, ungrateful for the leg
break. You heard it here first, it's fantastic. Oh sure you've seen
it before. You mentioned about ghost hunts before. Do you go on?
Many ghost hands and things? I love them? I do too, We're
can go on. I love them. Well, I'm actually organizing something.
I can't talk about it at the moment, but it's part of my company.
Well I will definitely, it's part of my company. Investigate. You're
known with our wrapp it enables people to investigate the paranormal, the supernatural,
the UAP consciousness, spiritual cryptids, the whole whack of of the phenomenon.
We we do some work in the paranormal space, and we were I was
having a conversation before before I joined your show about some ghostly adventures. So
I love a good ghost hunt. My favorite favorite place I've ever been was
Ruthin Castle in North Wales. They're craziest how strangeness happens around me anyway,
but it was it was nuts in a really good way, and it was
so emotional and a small young child ghost being what have you came through and
I got to have this very strange interface with with an entity and I spent
you know, six hours in a cold, cold, cold castle in the
middle of the night. And I really do enjoy anything paranormal. I just
like the investigation. I'm not frightened by it because I think there's more to
be afraid of the living than is the day. Yeah. Sure, So
when you go to ghost do you go as a skeptic of yourself? You
know, because obviously you've got to look at what things can be before you
start jumping to say, oh, that's definitely a ghost or whatever. When
you hear noises and it could be drafts or squeaky doors or whatever. I'm
an Aquarius, so I do have a quite logical mind, she says,
astrology. But I do, you know, I do try to rule out,
you know, is there a wire? Is that fella knocking on the
table. But I'm just so with having a mom that conversed with you know,
those that have passed. It's always been a part of my life.
You know, I talk to my friends now weedi board. Oh my god,
Oh my god, that's scary. And I'm like, it's not scary
if you're doing it safely, like you can commune with those that have gone
to the next place. So I'm not a skeptic. I'm at all.
Like I'm fully signed up. You know, I'm in. But but I
think, you know, there's times to be sensible. You know, there's
going to be creaks, there's going to be you know, wind blowing.
It's about using discernment. But I adore it. M hmm. I mean
the thing is when you go to these places because you do know about things,
you're not actually looking for evidence and you're actually looking for something deeper.
Is that what I'm looking for? The connection I think when when my mom
passed over, she before she died, you said, well, I'll come
back and I'll haunt you. And we made an agreement that when she did
pass that she would come back and she would let me know. And she
didn't, and I was absolutely distraught. Everything that she taught me, all
of the paranormal and supernatural experiences and the magical education she gave me meant Diadley
squat because she hadn't come back or visited me from the next place to knowledge
to your knowledge, well, well, well, weeks later, my son's
father spoke to her a family friend, and said, I've been having these
really strange dreams about Holly's mom and we keep meeting at this bench. And
he described this experience to my mum's best friend and aunt of mine, so
to speak. And my aunt said, you need to tell Holly, and
you need to tell her now because this is important to us. So he
was like, okay, and he came to me and said, listen,
I've got something to tell you. I was like, right, okay.
He said, I don't want you to be upset. You know, you've
just lost your mom. But he said, I keep dreaming of your mum,
and I said at a bench and he said, well, yeah,
I said, at a bench, and there's some did it And I described
this whole scene. It gives me chills and he said, well, yeah,
well I keep having the reaccoun dream. Mom and I had agreed there
was a I was born down south. I was born in Eastbourne and there
was a bench in a park that we used to go to, and there
was a similar type setup up north, so we always used to say we'll
meet at the bench. It was just like our thing. And he'd been
having a complete skeptic he'd been having these reoccurring dreams nightly. It was persistent,
it was persistent, it kept coming to him, and I believe Mum
didn't want to startle me or freak me out. She chose him as the
vehicle to deliver me that message. And as soon as he told me the
bench, I was like, she did what she came from the other place
to let me know it was okay. Chokes me a bit, and that
that really affirmed for me, not that it wasn't you know, already signed
up, but it really affirmed to me that she chose that way to communicate
with me. And you know, there really is life after death, but
in another form, there's just somewhere else they come back. That's just as
a recognized something that you recognize. Yeah, when Hew, we do go
on, I don't know, we become just a spot maybe with those orbs
that float about. You know, we could be, we could be.
And you know, Bearrefitt to Gerald talk to me about you know, the
fairy lights in Ireland and you know we'd go trying to find them as kids,
and I always think, you know, are they are? Is that
consciousness manifesting in a way that we can understand. Is that a soul from
somewhere else that we understand light because we need l like to survive in lights
around us. Is that their way of manifesting? Is it a soul who
knows? Yeah, you do. Hear a lot about like beings and things.
So you probably know you've heard of alien Bill Rook. No doubt Bill
Rook. No, he's always having these light beings. I've seen the stories
on photos where his hands light up and everything, and a bit of a
character. But he's apparently he's got his book coming out soon. So it's
been coming out for about three years I think. But we're still waiting for
it, but apparently it's on its fine. Ye. There's a lot of
books out this year We've got Yeah, I'll tell you if you could see
my bookshelf for you, I'll get so many books I'll never get I'll never
get someone to read them book because they're coming out faster and I can read
them. But you know a book I must recommend to you. It's by
a wonderful author called Cameron Dear Love the Cosmic. I'll message you about it
something. What is it anyway, Cameron Deale love great book and he his
I read so many books, like you know, I get sent a lot
of stuff these days. But his book was totally phenomenal and it really describes
the current state of the phenomenon right now. And if anyone you know really
wants to get a snapshot through it's fictional, but great book. I'll messed
you about that one. A lot of these fictional books are supposedly fictional actually
based on true truss anyway, I think nowadays with a lot of these sorts
of books, and you know, having the opportunity to interview Peter Lavender last
week and he you know, worked with Tom DeLong and The Secret Machines books
which are fictional in quotes. You know, it's one way to get around
clearances, and it's one way to go around stuff by calling it fictional.
So you know, I think there's something to be said for books that are
fictional but are based in some truth. Mm hmm. Well, when we
hear things about people that Bobb Blazar, I mean, have you got an
opinion about that? Or or maybe not? Maybe not an opinion? What
a football? I don't know. Well I like Bob too. I mean
I spent about twenty years believing everything he said, and then all of a
sudden things started coming out that he wasn't telling the truth and everything, and
I started to kill Maybe this guy isn't quite straight. But now I believe
that they were trying to muddy those waters to make it look like he wasn't
telling the truth. You know, I because you know story has been consistent,
he hasn't changed his story. But I think, you know, so
much was going on back in that time. You know, you look at
people like Rick Dotie, and people were paid to disinform and to create division
and to mwoody the waters. Do I think his entire claim is one hundred
percent legit. No, does he believe what he saw? Yeah? Was
he purposefully shown things that could add a bit of mud to the story.
Yeah. But you know, every now and again on Twitter, I'll throw
a post up, do we believe Barb? But it just goes crazy,
you know, hundreds of hundreds of comments because he here's a device of character
in the community. But you know, I remain I'm cool with Bob.
And you know, it's interesting with the hearing that happened this year, you
know, with Dave brush and come outs a favorite and you know, wearing
graves. You know, information's coming out which kind of you know, some
of it does support some of Bob's claims. So who knows? Man?
Who knows? Yes, that's what I mean. There's about twenty years believe
me, and all of a sudden, I started sitting on the fence.
Well I think I'm coming back off that fence again now and I'm beginning to
believe a little bit. Yeah, because he's never really been really disproved that
he's been lying, is it? You know? And I think that would
be quite easy to do now you can it's very easy for the media to
make somebody's name Mud as you know, as they've done with so many people.
And to be in the media, you've got to be of a certain
faction anyway, because so what's gained from it gained. He's not a multi
millionaire, he doesn't live in in a ridiculous mansion. He's not flying around
the world, excuse me, doing UFO conferences charging fifteen twenty grand, which
he could do. He could do, and there are people maybe not to
that monetary amount, but you know, there are people in the community that
do charge a lot of money, which is their right to do. So
if you wanted to go on the circuit, he could easily be a cell
of pots of money. Yeah, of course he would. When you'd go,
I'd go, I'll be there like a blinking That's what I mean.
I think anyone in the apology would actually go and see him, whether they
believed him or not, just to see what got to say. One hundred
and you know what, I believe Barb for the most part, and I
think we shall see. I believe what a very pivotal moment with disclosure right
now in you know, as I'm bringing my app ouse, it's really really
pivotal Times, and the timement is good. But you know, the British
government, where are they in the conversation? You know, the Americans are
leading the charge. What an interesting time we find ourselves when we talk about
the British government. I mean, there's a government behind that government anyway.
You know, these are just the people in front of the puppies, aren't
they. I think those people in front they know as much as we Basically
you'll probably not listed in some ways. Did you read the great article that
came out in Liberation Times this week by my friend Well he didn't write it,
but Chris Sharp, the editor of Liberation Times, put a story out.
It was an anonymous writer. Please, yeah, and it really you
know, I think it was titled where I'm paraphrasing, but where where?
Where's the UK government's voice in all of this. It's a very lengthy article,
but it really highlights what's going on. And you know, given the
work that I do with my company, you know, I'm aware of some
rumbles and grumbles. But yeah, interesting times. M hmmm. Because I
still like to really techn the mickey out of all these subjects whenever it goes
on the TV or whatever. They still was it's just like a queen and
a beyond the handle. Yes, that's right, you've only got to mention
flying sources and upos and aliens and the little green men. But that's that's
by purposeful design. And one of the reasons why I got involved with on
Hidden or on Hidden and n h Eyes in the middle of It Hidden it
was that you know, people will be dealing with ontological shark. There are
there are hundreds of thousands of experiences out there with no support services. There's
no services to help them through what their experiences are, and we're not having
the right come. We want to have better conversations and better services for experiences
because the you know, the government of the Free World in America have brought
legislation hearings. This is real. This is not like little green men and
sources. Ha ha ha. This is a real thing. Some of the
greatest minds are now working on this. The Soul Foundation of doctor Gary Nolan
and Pizza Skayfish. They had their event which you know, member of my
company actually attended, and you know there's institutions and bright minds and scientists have
below. This is very real. So where's the UK government's voice and in
the article Chris Sharp put out I think is really illuminating and definite must read.
I'll definitely send you the link after the show. Yeah, yeah,
definitely will be interested in. But yeah, I mean to be honest that
there's been so many serious reports that have been coming out of the last year
or so, of a couple of years, even going back five years.
All the UFO files they released, I don't think. I really still don't
believe they've released them all, but they say they have, because all of
a sudden they say, we've got some more we found. But there's a
lot of gyms within those files if you if you've got the time to sort
through them all. I've gone through for quite quite a few of my self,
and I think it's to some extent they've actually already told you that the
truth is out there. They've already told you you know so. But the
thing is he's finding it because I mean, it's only got to be one
or two little articles within those files, and the truth is there, you
know, one hundred and you know, I say this all the time.
Disclosures already happened. It's already happened. We were just part of the acclamation
process for the wider world to understand the proposition if we are not alone.
Yeah, but they will still joke about it on TV. But they will
still joke about it. I recently did a brand campaign in the States with
a company called Moonpi and they're kind of like UK like kind of a little
bit like Wagon Wheels, and they did a whole multimillion pound campaign centered around
selling their products to aliens that might walk amongst doesn't. I took a little
bit of heat from the community for doing that brand campaign in America, But
the reason I did that campaign was we have to start normalizing a conversation about
the others. And the only way we're going to create normal you know,
a sense of normality or a place to have, you know, new conversations
about it is through everyday stuff. And you know, the reaction for the
community in some ways was, oh, my god, that's great. You're
creating dialogue in new place, in new spaces, which is needed. And
I took a little bit of heat that, oh, you know, why
are you doing these things? But I just think, you know, as
a former publicist in PR person, the stigma, the giggles, the ridicule,
the nonsense. We don't. We shouldn't have to tolerate it anymore.
This is very rare somethink being whatever is visiting or coexisting with us. There's
people from decades talking about their experiences and where all the missing people. You
know what happens, people get abducted. You know, we now have to
start the giggles and start the science and start conversation. And I do get
right on my high horse about the stigma. And that's why you know,
I'd like to do shows like this. I'm a very normal girl. I'm
a mom. I've got a full time job, I've got a mortgage.
I go to work every day, paying the taxes. I'm an ordinary person
that gets to deal with the extra ordinary. Those of us within the community
that have a voice in a platform. We need to use that to onboard
people and maybe some of that giggle, giggle, flying sources green men,
it will start to reduce and more people will come forward. Well in natural
effects, I think we outnumber them anyway, in quite a big way.
You know, with all these all these different platforms we've got there so such
shows such as yours and this and just more of that are out there is
you know, when you see you've got a few TV shows take the peer
out of it. I think we really do it number slowly. I feel
that the tide is turning, and I came out, for want of a
better phrase, in my career, it's openly, you know. On my
LinkedIn my professional profile, I am you know, I talk about the phenomena.
I do work globally about it. You know. I've got a company
that investigates eight and I was really frightened to come forward at first in the
professional environment, but then I thought, I can't sit and tell people to
come forward and step out the shadows, and I'm not prepared to do it
myself. And it's really interesting because I thought in the right place, people
will be like, oh God, But actually people come to me and go,
we've seen this on the telly, what does that mean? And I
love those conversations because something very real is happening. Let's talk about it and
the giggling might stop. Yeah. I think it's really good with it when
people come to you like that, because, like you say, they are
looking at you seriously. You know. Anyway, Holly, I think it's
been fantastic talking to you. Well, let's get some links. So your
your podcast is called Into the Weird. Yeah, Into the Weird, w
y R D E D and have you got e more? I've got websites
and things or yeah. So my main focus at the moment, sneeze,
No, not so. My main focus at the moment is Project Nanu,
which is a new app available on both Android and Apple that will be coming
out later on this year. So that's Project Nanu. You can search us
through Google find our website, Malcolm min Date. So Project Nanu a part
of my company called Investigate Your Known, the the app Shooter Launch. We've
got a global team and we're some quite well known people from the community involved,
which is fabulous. So Project Nanny was my my current focus. Also,
I am prolific Twitter, exa whatever you call it. Most of my
live shows or anything I'm doing can be found through through my my my my
platform there which is at that you ap Girl, that's you a pea Girl.
I'm constantly having dialogue and conversations. And equally, my other work takes
me to Unhidden dot org as I've spoken about throughout this show and Hidden,
so they're they're my sort of three places. Project Nanu that you ap girl
on x formerly Twitter and on Hidden Org. Yeah, well, if you
any links that you can send me that you might not have mentioned also because
what I'll do. I've got the Parable Dimensions page on Facebook, oh fact,
and I'll put all those links on there, so distances can go check
page and find you there. But they can find you on Facebook also,
can't they. Yeah, it's lucky. I know, I'm my my friend
requests has gone been on as recently. I'm fielding all kinds. But I
do have a community on Facebook ord Into the Weird and you know we've got
a couple of thousand members now, Yeah, a lot of people sharing links
and podcasts and books and it's just a safe space for people to talk about
the phenomena. Yeah, will put a link to that as well on there
because hopefully you get you get your small members, but if you can do
with them, that is but fantastic talking to you now. As we said
before, this will be going out on the Monday, so you've already done
the event. So but I hope it all goes well for you. It
will be marvelous. I know I've done a fabulous job. I know you
have as well. I can't talk for England and I'm just so grateful for
the team awakening. And yeah to Stella, I'm sorry I couldn't come.
You know. I was offered, actually offered a ticket box, I said,
I said, I still can't come this weekend. I'm afraid it's just
just tough. Their big, big conference that August one will be the next
big one coming out for them. So I'm sure I'll catch up with you
in pass and if you can, I'm hoping I can get to that one.
Yeah, we don't even know. We don't even know who the speakers
are yet. I don't think unless you do, you might have to tell
me. I think I'm I think Steve mentioned something. Maybe something might get
announced at the conference. Okay, if you're listening to this right now,
you've already heard it. Yeah, it's all getting very confused. I'll touch
you when I know the lies. Okay, it's all getting very confusing.
I'll let you go. Thank you very much for coming on. It's been
great talking to you, and I will get to see you again. I
hope you know you are not not not too distant future, and you sent
me take care of yourself. No, thanks for coming on great pleasure.
Thanks Holly, thank you so much. Okay, cheers, thank you Holly,
excellent. I do hope to get to see you again sometime. Okay.
My next show is another extra show and that's on the twenty sixth of
February, and it's a lady named Karen Free. Now Karen is a co
owner and organizer of the Festival of the Unexplained that we have here in the
UK. You may have already heard shows that I did with Nicky and Rachel
Or. Now Karen is on the show. Now, Karen's been on the
show before. She was on a dever a year ago, so I'm pleased
to be welcome in her back onto the show. So that'd be Monday,
the twenty sixth of February. A's an extra show with Karen Frey. Of
course, as always, if you'd like to get in touch with me in
between now and then, my email address is David Young two QN at Yahoo
dot co dot UK. That's David Young two QN at your hoo dot co
dot UK. So until the next time, that's Monday February twenty six with
Karen Frey. Take care of everybody and I'll speak to you then. David
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