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What is krack alac and fellow thermonuclear
afs, I am Dana Valley coming at

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you with my certified fantabulous thermonuclear af
co host, mister Grant Hughes. We're

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here to rap off, wrap up. I still can't talk our playoff predictions

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with the final two series, one
in the East, one in the one

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in the West. Excuse me.
And before we get to that, though,

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we will also maybe at the end
be talking some undone Golden State Warriors.

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I don't know, some stuff happened
with them earlier this week. They

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missed the playoffs. That's what happens. We're gonna talk about their future a

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little bit. But first and foremost, before we get to our first series,

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Grant, how the heck are you
doing? I'm doing very well.

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I am ready to wrap off and
rap on and well that would have worked.

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Let's wrap on these these playoff series. We got some one versus eights

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to talk about. Let's go to
the Western Conference one versus eight. We

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have the Oklahoma City Thunder versus the
play in surviving New Orleans Pelicans, who

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you know are gonna be short.
A certain player names Zion Williamson that really

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might oppose some problems for a thin, not super physical inside Oklahoma City Thunder

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team. So I think we maybe
start there with the fact that the guy

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that maybe could have been not just
because he's New Orleans best player, but

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the downhill attacks, the physicality,
the force. You could really talk yourself

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into Zion having been like a like
dominating some stretches of this series right like

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that that I think was on the
table. But with the hamstring, he's

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probably going to be out for most
as we're recording this. He hasn't been

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ruled out as far as we know, but it'll be limited. Yeah,

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the hamstring is like a pretty and
just the look on his face after we

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talked about this on the previous pod
when like he felt it against the Lakers,

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just it makes you incredibly uneasy,
fully healthy Zion, fully healthy.

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I mean obviously that changes who were
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it changes like the duration of the
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pause? We'll get into the more
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thinking, like, I don't know, New Orleans is looking kind of frisk,

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like they could, I would say, just because of their ability if

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they wanted to hit the offensive Glass
with size and physicality and make that kind

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of a Jonnis Malla Tchuna series.
I don't know if they could necessarily do

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that on the defensive end the way
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banking on brandon Ingram getting back to
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the way Zion was defending, coupled
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Murphy, it would have just been
interesting to see them go up against Oklahoma

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City because this is another team that's
gonna get provided on going downhill. They

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don't space the floor nearly as well
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Oklahoma City the offense is efficient enough
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set. But like the Pelicans,
if they're gonna be able to board,

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okay, so he's misses like they're
gonna be able to get out and run

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again. This is all with Zion
on the court, and it's just there's

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no solution to Zion, but a
team that is like, like, who

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is the best option to defend Zion
Williamson on the thunder? It's probably j

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dubb and not him? Is it
like big j will It's one of them

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it's go. I think you start
with he's just like but Dord is just

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so small relative to Zion. He's
still built like a mack truck. But

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yeah, I think and by the
way, just to so, Zion's gonna

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be reevaluated in two weeks, which
is always like, well, okay,

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so that's like the absolute soonest,
we could say he's still a week away

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or something like that. That's May
first, that's game five, give or

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take. So like we're definitely not
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thing dramatic changes, and like the
series may not go much longer than that.

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I think, Like let's talk about
a couple other things that struck me

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here, Like I do you mentioned
it? I do like the pelican's length

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on the perimeter. You got her, you put her about there, you

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could put Dyson, Daniels, Murphy, Ingram, varying levels of quality.

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That's the solution without Zion, right, is we need a bunch of those

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minutes with those three wings together,
kind of the offensive creation aspect to be

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damned. Yeah, I think that's
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have to play McCollum just you know, he's gonna have to play a Ton

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just for the offensive creation, but
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Thunder there, you know, between
Williams and between Sga, like you got

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to have multiple rangey, switchable wing
defenders out there just to kind of hang

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tight. And like you know,
Valentunas banging around against Chet in the paint.

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I think there's you know, there's
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If he's outside the pain, we
got real big problems. And that's why,

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well he comes back to where would
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the Giddy or the dort situation,
I guess, the missing shots. It's

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one of those where like if you're
the Thunder and you just choose not to

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play Giddy at all because you don't
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playing too well for that, right, But that's that's an option that a

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team as good as the Thunder have, Like we could, yeah, we

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don't need him, he's been great, but like we could just take this

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this option off the table that you
that the Pelicans might exploit and it's not

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going to hurt the bottom. I
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he was already what was he posts
All Star Break at about twenty five minutes

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per game, So Yankee Matt down, and it's funny that we view what

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did he shoot? Thirty six from
three post All Star break? It's like

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it was lights out, so you
hide the guy. Let's see what else

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do we have? Yeah, I
series, I wish Ion, I mean,

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duh, right, becomes so much
more interesting if he's on. I

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do think I hope Willy Green gets
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like they have size and length,
but they don't have girth. Willy Green's

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got to get like fucking kooky with
his lineup, Like I'm talking Dyson Daniels

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at the five shit, Like Dyson
Daniels, Herb Jones, Let's go Dyson

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Herb Jones, brandon Ingram, Trey
Murphy. Who's the other? We just

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throw Naji Marshall in there? Sure? I think what so valentunis we've we've

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just said is like maybe an advantage
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of but a huge disadvantage on the
other. I think you probably will see

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a ton of nance. I don't
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enough to like the Thunders driving and
kick like whirlwind thing is gonna either exploit

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valentunis as a room protector or nance
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there's just I just don't know how
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six to eight foot shots, Like
I just don't know where healthy zion maybe

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maybe right, healthy Zion maybe or
healthy Zion means that as those get scored,

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they just score on the other end
because he barrels down the lane and

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makes layups. But it's hard to
see a real clear like Okay, the

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Pelicans can go to this on one
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a solve, you know, for
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the thunder will space them out.
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Like it's just I just don't know
what the what the obvious like the

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Pelicans have this advantage is I am
willing to give a Zion the Pelicans one

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game though, just because of the
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And we've seen, you know,
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I'm not saying victim he Miyam would
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just playing three quarters of the season. Amazing chat Holmgan wasn't shooting as well

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from three. After the All Star
Break shake, Gillis Alexander went through one

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of his above the break truffs,
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down their shots in certain games when
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So I trust even without Zion,
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where if they can really force the
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I don't know if it necessarily benefits
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put enough pressure and stress on Oklahoma
City shooters. Yeah, I think that's

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fair. I got I got the
Thunder in five too. It's another one

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that feels like four is likelier than
six. You know, just the Zion

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thing, it sucks. There's so
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guys not there, and it just
completely makes any analysis beyond that fact for

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the series feel like we're just grasping
it stuff. You know. It's just

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that's just it's a shame. This
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of the the proxy for Pacers Bucks
in the East where you're missing and it's

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like the series would be completely it
just flip flop because the Pelicans never would

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have been favored even if Ion was
Hell, that's that's true. But I

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mean we would have had a much
longer conversation if Zion were healthy, I

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think, and it would have been
more favorable to New Orleans. Let's go

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to the East now here where we
have the Boston Celtics in the Miami Heat.

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Yet again we have we have an
injury. Like so several other series

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we've talked about that, I think
we have to start with Jimmy Butler's got

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a knee. Uh, it's several
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So we're talking significant too. When
it's significant MCL injury, that's always harrowing.

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Yeah, I feel like he's unlikely
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Like of all the injuries, like
we think Giannis might show up at some

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point in the series. Obviously Embiad
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is Kawhi we think is probably going
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But this one just it seems like
Zion has a better chance of making it

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into a hype of would have had
a better chance of making it into a

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hypothetical. Pelican's thunder matchup than Butler
has of getting into this matchup with the

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Celtics, which and again it's it's
a shame because like the heat yet again

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survived and here they are having emerged
from the play in, Oh, let's

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let's run it back, let's upset
another looking hilacious. Yeah, defense looking

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hilarious, Like I now trust,
I now trust everyone on the roster again.

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I trust Cayler Martin, I trust
Hayward high Smith, Nikolayovitchyeah, I

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get him out there every he've been
defending his butt off too. They did

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the think again, I believe in
everyone on that roster all of a sudden,

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and I can't believe I ever thought
gave Vincent and Max Struce mattered.

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But like, no, Jimmy is
just this offense sucks as it is and

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you can't just say, oh,
Tyler heroes back. So that sawid like

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no without Butler, a team that
really struggles to create shots, which they

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did against the Sixers, by the
way, with Butler for like a healthy

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quarter. I just I don't see
the offense that like that's that's the whole

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thing. And you know this,
we haven't even said a word about the

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Celtics yet, which like, what's
that we need to frame it this way?

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What is there even a pathway to
the Celtics realistically losing this series when

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we know that Jimmy Butler isn't going
to be in it. Because the thing

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that you harp on with Boston is
that the all offense can bog down when

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it matters most, when you're just
looking at in those crunch time situations.

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And they wound up finishing the year. And so let's go really high stakes

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here. They have the lead or
it's a tie game, it's a one

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possession game in the final three minutes. Would you care to guess where they

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finished in offensive efficiency points score per
possession in I'll stay seventeenth. They were

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twenty first, So that's not great. And like if Miami busts out zone

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against them, which here's an interesting
question that I feel like I'm maybe not

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smart enough to answer, does zone
become more or less important without Jimmy Butler?

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Oh, that's interesting, Well,
it definitely becomes less effective because like

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he doesn't he could just fly into
blind spots and force turnovers. What do

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you have like five steals or something
before he got hurt wasn't at twelve.

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Yeah, it was just like every
time someone turned their back to him,

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he was just picking the pocket and
going the other way. I think,

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I guess I would. I would
say like it matters, I don't know,

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matter more, just because you need
every possible like edge you can get

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and if that happens to work,
Like, look, if you if you

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stop the Celtics from getting Porzingis switched
on to a smaller guy and posting up

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and being the best post up guy
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Like maybe you know, maybe you
just take that out, you know,

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take that card out of the Celtics
hands. They still have, you know,

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there's have plenty of options, but
like that's one thing. And maybe

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by playing zone you force a lot
more of the stagnant like kicking it around

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the perimeter waiting for a Celtic guy
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this season just feels like a jail
And Brown or Jason Tatum or Derek White

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will just bust through it. Yeah, I mean, like it's just realistically

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even. And look, even if
the zone really does flummix the Celtics and

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they have just some ugly quarters or
whatever, they just the even the heat

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well and the Heat are gonna have
some quarters where they score like seventeen points

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because they just you know seven,
and I was gonna be so I was

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trying to I was as I was
like getting that sentence, I was like,

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what's a number that's like bad?
But you know, I just I

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don't know where the offense comes from
other than like Tyler Herro running running hot

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or if Bam out of bio just
I don't know Hero's year could be seen

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him put up. So yeah,
you know what's fun about this series not

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to say that there's a silver lining
to know Jimmy Butler just because they're in

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it isn't excuse me, but you
know that you're just gonna have like the

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Hayward high Smith twenty five point game
or something. That guy hit a floater

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against the Sixers in that first playing
game that I was just like, I

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forget the exact circumstances, but it
was like it was insane that he took

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it and he and he made it, and it was like, that's that

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seems right. The heat just like
everybody that suits up for the heat is

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like so empowered to just take the
difficult like a high stick shot and everybody's

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like, yeah, I'm good with
that because you know we're ready. It

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will it will be interesting if like
whether it's Bam Zone Committee, I'm a

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Hawk, is Caleb Martin? If
just Jason Tatum has a bad game,

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Yeah, what kind of trickle down
effect does that have on Boston? But

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I just I mean, like the
talent is just I don't know, it's

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tough. If Boston drops, like
just comes out, lays an egg,

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all that rest and drops game one, Like the discourse is gonna be so

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inflammatory. They'll probably have earned it
because this is I'm sorry, this is

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a series that they should win either
in four or like all four of their

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victory should probably be handed. It's
a five game gentleman sweep. But like

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none of the victories they had wherever
really close. I think it has to

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be a sweep because like you're the
number one seed, you had the you

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know, you sewed up the conference
in like early March. You're just far

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and away better than everyone. You're
playing the eighth seed that doesn't have its

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best player, Like, what are
we doing if we're not sweeping this series?

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Like that's you know, I would
say, like it won't matter long.

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They're gonna Boston's gonna win it.
But like it'll almost I guess there's

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maybe too much, not enough respect
for the Heat or whatever, but like

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you have to sweep the series if
you're Boston, you have to just like

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leave no doubt whatsoever. This playoff
bracket broke right for them, not that

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they needed it, but I think
going up against Cleveland or Orlando after this

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kind of beats like a Philly within
bead or having to go up against New

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York type or Milwaukee with Yiannis.
Yeah, and it'll be nice. We're

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already looking ahead, but we should, like you'll then you'll get as the

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Celtics, you'll get a test like
defensively because you're getting Cleveland or Orlando and

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so like you're gonna you know,
this is your warm up series against the

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undermanned Heat team that just wasn't as
good during the year as either of those

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teams. And now like if you
get Orlando, for example, which I

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we both in Cleveland's coming out of
that series, but like then you'll really

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kind of get like that's that's your
like intense warm up. Like now you're

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really ramping up for like the heavy
Lift coming up. Yeah, if you

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