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Good afternoon, everybody, welcome to Eye

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on the Ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's

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Jagan Zaliz. We got our guy
Kevin in this day, Monday, and

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it seems to me that the sun
is unshining, although you can't see it

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because the basketball team is fine,
both men's and the women. It's a

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little cloudy out there. But yes, the sun did come up again for

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Arizona. You have a big win
on Saturday, well even more so,

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and then Asu lost. I loved
somebody somebody on Twitter put out but it

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just said Washington State's time in first
place in the Pac twelve and it was

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a video of Aaron Rodgers running out
with the flag in the game where he

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got injured like two plays into the
game. Incredible. There's always a tweet

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like that. Somebody always comes up
with something clever, right, that's pretty

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funny. Well, well thank you, I wrote that right away once it

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happened, and the big fans didn't
want to thank his shoe. I'll never

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think his shoe fans is that,
but hey, you take what you can

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get. Yeah, you know,
it's it's funny because I look, I

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never cheer for Arizona State. I
just don't. But there are Okay,

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did you watch the game? Yeah? R okay. I sat there and

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I watched that game like I was
watching an Arizona game. Did you cheer

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them? I did? Okay,
Wow, I did. I cussed him

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because you know they were they got
a big lead and then they led him

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back in it. And I mean, I watched that game like I'm watch

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an Arizona game because you know it
was it was that big. And I

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said, here's the funny thing,
and I'm gonna I gotta give these guys

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a little props. Both, you
know, on either side of me at

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uh you at the at the table
on Saturday. You know, my son

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Adam is on one said, actually
he was a little further down with another

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duty, but he came and sat
next to me after the game. And

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my brother Jean on the other side. Both of those guys said, as

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you will lose. I mean that
issue would be Washington that. Yeah,

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it wasn't a major shock because of
you know, you've been covering. We

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talk about this all the time,
and everyone says, well, how does

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this happen? Happens all the time, the get up game and and and

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that's when Arizona remember when Arizona and
Issue were good together. It happens very

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rarely, but when it happens,
it's a one two, not a juggernaut,

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but it's a one two bunch.
It was hard, yeah, because

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you have to survive both of them, not just one of them. I

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mean in Washington State looked nothing like
the team they were not Thursday night.

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It wasn't even I mean, well
it's like you know, Isaac Jones,

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and and and and and and uh
and Rice and the guy the number zero

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you who made all those three pointers. Well, none of those guys look

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like they looked on Well you saw
here, here's the case. And I

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truly believe in this stuff. Uh. The coach what's his name, the

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Smith Smith did some great celebrating in
the post game blocker room. Yep,

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forty eight hours. He couldn't do
that. They were already celebrating that that

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victory and maybe the weekend, like
they thought like they had won the league

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because they thought they had happens all
the time. Well, that that whole

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you know, the way the pack
puff schedule is configured where you've got you

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know, Thursday Saturday or Thursday Sunday
game. That second game is always a

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hard game, and it always it's
always affected by what happens on Thursday night,

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no question, it's like next week, next week when they go to

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l A. They play u c
l A Thursday, right, and then

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US see the next Saturday, I
think it's Saturday. No, No,

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it's u c l A Thursday Saturday. So even if you flip flopped them

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because bigger game, blah blah blah, because you got to get it from

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now, you've got to get it
for both games. I would like to

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think that in Arizona's case, playing
u c l A first is better?

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Is better? Yeah, they go
play LA. If you beat them,

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you know US is bad. Except
they weren't bad well Saturday because they got

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up for the game, right and
they're healthier now. Right. But you

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know, I think you say,
Arizona would have a better shot of beating

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u c U S coming off of
a UCLA win. Then you know,

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they go in and have a nice
win against USC. Now they got to

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play UCLA. It's the second game
of the weekend. It's a little harder.

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So we'll get to that point next
week when we get there. But

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they did recover. I didn't think
they recovered as well as they should have

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because they were kicking the crab by
and it's again once again. Oh wow,

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these guys are playing really well and
then what happened. It just kind

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of went flat in the second half
a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

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and that happens too. But still, this team, this team, and

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I know we don't have access to
Tommy, I would ask him. I

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would ask him, does this team
frustrate you as much as it frustrates people,

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because it's come on, in one
half they look fantastic, the other

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half they look so So guess what
happens next month. You can't do it

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right, you can't play so so
yeah, there's no wiggle room. Yeah,

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you know you're hundre percent correct,
and you know that's gonna be interesting

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to see. But it seems like
you like to you like to say that

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one because of what happened in Princeton
last year, right, that everybody is

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going to have their full attention.
Is that what you just never know is

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that your teaching moment that everyone talks
about, Well, you're learning more like

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to think it is. But you
know the look, Caleb Love wasn't on

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that team. Uh Tishad Johnson wasn't
on that team. But on the other

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hand, those two guys have seen
the promise, so you would think that

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the two of them would like,
dudes, we cannot be you know,

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taking taking off a half or even
you know, a segment from one TV

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time. They've been doing this all
their lives, all their lives. Yeah,

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you think they nobody now, right, all their lives. They just

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can't. And I remember last year
when they played Princeton. The one thing

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that Kyra did justin Kya did when
the introduction line, what did he fail

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to do? Shake the other dude's
hands? And they said felt disrespectful.

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Oh I remember that, and he
says, what what did you just do

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to me? You guys so you
got to respect opponents? Uh, let

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me ask you something, each of
you. What did you what was your

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takeaway from third from satur from Saturday's
game your biggest thing? And I have

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my own That's why I asked nothing
really really, I mean, they won

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the game that they were supposed to
win, the game they were never they

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were never really threatened. Just that, you know, they did what they

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needed to do. That's okay.
Honestly, I kind of feel the same

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way. I didn't really walk out
of the arena and feel any one specific

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thing that stuck out to me the
most. I think there was a little

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bit of I almost expected them to
win a little bit more decisively, yea,

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but it wasn't like it was ever
in question like Jayson. It was

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decisive though they won by sixteen.
Okay, so let me maybe you'll chan

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change your minds with this uh shot. Uh Tommy getting on bosswell, and

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I made the point of asking him
about that because yelled at him and got

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on him and and and put him
to the bench and then brought him back

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and he played better, much better. And Tommy, I says, you

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know, everyone saw it, we
all saw it. Your your thoughts on

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getting on him, and and how
were you pleased to what happened? And

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he said, yeah, I hate
to do stuff like that. And it's

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funny a coach hating to do stuff
like that, you know, Alost apologizing.

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No, So I thought that was
needed and essential to to Boswell because

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he looked disinterested. He looked like
you saw the tapes. I'm sure,

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like you know, don't talk to
me like that. And he and he

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that came on a play where he
played horrible. It was horrible and he

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lost the ball and he lost the
remember just previous to that, they stole

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the ball from him at half court. Ye, So I think I don't

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know if that's going to get him
right, but he used to got his

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attention. Yeah, and and that
that, yeah, I mean that again,

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that's been the big the big thing
that people are scratching their heads about

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what's up the season is what's up
with Colin Boswell? You know, I

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mean to the point where you think
you have some sort of a personal issue

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going on that his mind is not
on on his games been so good.

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There's a lot of internet speculations on
campus to talking. I won't go there

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because it's too personal and I don't
really care about that. So we don't

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know anything right right, right,
We're not that group. You know.

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It does make you wonder, but
no, I remember seeing that we all,

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you know, we all at the
table like whoa, whoa, whoa

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whoa. Yeah, you know,
yeah, so I think that's a good

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that was a good thing. Obviously
he wasn't at me, so it was

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it was as well, So lose
baby steps because guess time is running out,

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man. Yeah, well again,
you know, but but you know,

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I mean, the thing that we
hear is that no matter how far

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into the season you are, you
have to keep getting better. Right right

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now is not the time to say, Okay, this is as good as

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we're going to get. And so
there's still things that they need to do,

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whether you call him, that they
need to fix or progress that they

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need to make, and and so
you know, there's it's always trying to

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advance and be better than they were
the game before. And that's you know

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that that's an effort towards that.
So yeah, I completely I completely forgot

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about that. Again, you don't
you forget about stuff like that. When

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they win the game, you think, okay, everything was fine. They

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won the game, They were never
threatened. They took a big lead early.

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I know, they led by a
bunch, but you know, and

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it got down to you know,
single digits in the second half, but

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there was never a point you thought
they're gonna lose this game. Now,

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if you had the fourteen and a
half on Friday that could have gotten on

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Friday night versus the sixteen and a
half that you got on Saturday, you're

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not very happy if you had sixteen
and a half, right, And it

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was just little things, just you
know, turnovers and poor shots, and

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it is what it is. They
won by sixteen, so that's a good

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thing. And then the women,
the women pulled off a dumb my god,

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pull off a double that was unexpected. Well well, I mean we

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talked about it on briefly. Briefly
No, no Friday. No, that's

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right, it's Friday night. So
we did. I mean, we just

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talked about the game being okay.
We just got confirmation a Dea Barnes gonna

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be on the show tomorrow, Fantastice. We're gonna talk about it. So

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I don't know if she's listening or
if somebody over there is listening, and

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if you are, don't tell her. But I'm gonna say, I'm gonna

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admit that I didn't even watch a
game on Friday night. Why am I

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gonna sit down and watch Arizona get
blown out at Stanford had other things to

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do, and as I didn't really
have other things, I was watching a

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movie. I don't even remember what
I was watching. I didn't watch a

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game. All of a sudden,
my daughter comes out of the out of

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the room and says, Arizona be
Stanford. I'm like in basketball, and

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she goes, yeah, I like
in women's basketball. She goes yeah,

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come on, and you know.
And then I immediately shot over to Twitter

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to see what's going and saw highlights
and it's late as I think three minutes

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left in the game, they were
still down eight or nine, Yeah,

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and came back and one because they
outscored in like thirty one sixteen. Well,

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and the game was sixty one all
and Arizona outscored scored the last seven

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points for the game. But the
game, so to use the point of

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Arizona beating Stanford, guess what it
happens. Conversely, didn't you see the

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you follow me on Twitter? I'm
like me, per No, you don't,

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but I do. I tweeted,
what the hell? I know what

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He's right, This is exactly what
I to I was gonna put it out

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on a as a as A did
I put it out on my Twitter account,

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and I said, for those of
you still grieving Arizona's loss to WAZU

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on Thursday night, this stuff happened. Does happen exactly? Answers a great

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tweet, right and and and and
it was and it was a retweet of

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of the Arizona BA women's basketball Twitter
account that said this just happened. And

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I said, this happened, It
does it does happen. You could be

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on both sides of it at any
time, at any time. The game

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we talked about, you know,
before we went on the air, Oha

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State had lost seventeen straight road games. They go to Michigan State, They're

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getting their asses kicked the whole game, and they went on a buzzer beater

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in overtime to beat Michigan State,
Michigan State a game that could cost Michigan

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State even getting into the tournament.
You know, those things just happen to

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do. And you could go through
any sport, any team. It happens

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all the time, especially to the
to the degree of big good teams.

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I want to also talk about,
because I'm not sure we'll be talking about

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this is a national story. The
court Stoparts and Sean it was kind of

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the Sean Miller rule right here,
because who's going to courch from other schools

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except for Arizona. Right when you
showed up, it happened here a lot.

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Yeah, and you know, how
do you prevent them? You win

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the game. But now it's going
to be changed. Probably there's been a

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lot of a lot of stuff,
a lot of people throwing stuff out about

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how you can work on No,
no, no, no whatever. They

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you're not going to prevent kids.
Await sixty minutes and sixty seconds. They

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want to go. Now it's a
celebration. Now. You don't want the

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delayed gratification, of course, like
when the New Year's ball drops. You

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don't want to wait another five seconds
ago, you know, to do the

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thing right. But the funny think
about it, and not funny the ironic

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team or whatever word. It took
a guy from Duke from Duke. That's

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my change, that's my thing.
We saw kid here at who's on high,

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the kid who got hurt badly.
The guy had a life altering injury.

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I'm gonna try to truck him down
and see because but it took a

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Duke guy to change the narrative.
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want to break this down some more. You know, on the other side

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of our guests, we should say, had guess Jim Monico is coming on,

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athletic director of Pima coming on in
a few minutes. And then in

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the second half, Greg Hanson,
we invited him on to talk about the

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new athletic directory. Had a long
piece and is a Sunday column yesterday.

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But Greg is one of the few
surviving people in the community who have worked

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with all the athletic directors dating back
to said Dempsey, So we would kind

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of get hit some of his input
on that. But anyway, the point

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I was gonna make, uh was
I forgot the point I was we were

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talking about I know we're talking about
well, uh, I was I going

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to say something really important? It
was? It was. It was a

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really good, good point about this. But you might want to tweet it

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out. But yeah, but you
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you know, it took it took
somebody from from Duke. You know,

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oh, somebody said, uh,
we have to keep we have to work

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on this, or somebody is going
to get hurt. Like dudes, people

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have been getting hurt for decades in
court storm. That's that's that's what I

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was thinking, that everything's like yesterday. But now that the Duke guy got

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hurt. Oh, he's the first
guy to ever get hurt. And it's

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crazy because Kaitlyn Clark got bodied.
But that was I'm not saying it.

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I'm not saying it was you.
But it's just you know, it takes

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a special there. Yeah, there's
some things that we got And I do

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want to talk about this some more
because I tweeted so I could read it

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in a big ish I'm not you
know what, I'm not talking to you

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the rest of the day. All
right, Well, we'll be right back.

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Jim Monico, Pema College of Pemia
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I'm Steve Rivera. He's jagan Zaus.

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Now on the phone, we have
Jim Monico the Pima aztecs A d for

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the next couple of months and then
righting off into the sunset one month.

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To be clear, I don't think
you're looking forward to it, you know.

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I mean to say something. I
saw a story a while back,

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and I've kind of kind of knew
something was going on last semester, but

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you kind of just thought recently or
in the Chris it was time, right.

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Yeah, that really it kind of
solidified what I was thinking. Because

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you're you're a young man. What
are you gonna do hopefully grow older without

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stress? Do you already have I
mean, forty three years I've been working

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and not full time, you know, more than full time because you're coaching

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and whether a police officer off duty
work, you're always ninety one hundred dollars

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a week, So you just kind
of get a beaten and I guess I

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kind of I kind of burn out
a little quicker because I probably exude a

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little too much energy. So do
you already have like a long list of

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things that you're going to do in
books that you're going to read that you're

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really never going to get to because
you're going to be busier than you were

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before. Let me tell you I
was stupid enough to get that second master's

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degree and I haven't read a book
in about nine years. I'll make sure

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you read my and just make sure
so so, and we'll get to that

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in a bit. Let's kind of
go back to the final months or days

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for you. How has this year
been knowing that this is gonna happen?

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You know, I I had it
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was thinking it was just probably time. But you know, I've been trying

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to get things done at a little
quicker pace. There are a few things

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I wanted to finish up, and
I'm trying to get to them because I

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want to make sure when I go
that not only did I try to leave

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it better, but finished everything that
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you know, going to that,
I mean there's obviously some things even right

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now that you can say, Okay, I left these things. These things

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already in place, they are going
to be in place when I leave.

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These are areas that I think we've
already done a great job, that you've

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done a great job with over time. What are some of those things,

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you know? I think getting the
fields to where they were now, getting

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our study haul set up for athletes
so that they had an opportunity to you

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know, it's not like the college
doesn't help them, but because their schedules

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are so different, they need times
when they can get there. So having

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that set up for them, getting
our coaches full time that that was a

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big deal for me. I thought
they deserved it, and the college agreed.

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When I pushed it forward. You
know, a couple of things that

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I didn't get finished yet that are
in the works is redoing all the backsops

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for baseball softball because they're old.
But that's in the works and should be

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done by the end of the summer. And then we have in the work

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trying to get their scoreboards replaced.
I've raised the money to do that,

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so just there are a few things
left that I just wanted to get done

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and make sure that you know,
if they weren't done, they were at

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least in the work so the next
person can pick it up and keep moving

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forward. And I think you've been
there about five years, right, I

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can remember a lot of the candidates
were, you know, coaches there and

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you've got the job. How fun
has it been or is it still not

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so much fun? No, I'll
be dead serious with withft you. I

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love this. I mean, in
all honesty, it's really in my wheelhouse.

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I've been able to get some stuff
done. I've got such an amazing

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support staff as far as at the
college and in in our coaches and our

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players that just they work so hard
and it's just, uh, you know,

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if people keep saying, you know, what did you do. I

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don't know what I did. I
just came in with an attitude and an

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idea and everybody jumped on board.
And if if they didn't, I wouldn't

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have been successful. True, Yeah
yeah yeah. Uh. And and then

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you, I mean, certainly the
coaches that you put together over there,

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you know, we are none of
us know how long they'll be there after

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you're gone, but you're certainly going
to leave a coaching staff behind. It's

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uh, you know, pretty Uh, it's done pretty well for themselves,

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been amazing for themselves. They're incredible. I mean, come on, our

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athletics from top to bottom. I
mean, we're getting ready to go to

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nationals with all our qualifiers from track
and we're taking thirty eight student athletes.

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Thirty eight that's just incredible. We
have a shot to take a national championship

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there and come home with a bunch
of national champions So, I mean,

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it's just it's just from one sport
to another, there's no real drop off,

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and it's been great and the graves
have been still have been great,

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So I mean, you don't get
much better than that. So I'm not

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from here as we know, and
Jay, I don't know how much you

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paid attention. But I've always said, and I said this to you,

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Jim Pemo's kind of plaking a back
seat to Arizona for a long time.

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It's done this and you know this. I'm not telling you anything you don't

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already know. But in the recent
years, and I couldn't tell you how

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long ago, that this situation that
you're in now has kind of like the

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Glory years. I could be misspeaking. I don't know athletically, but soccer

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is nationally known, boys and girls, the basketball our scores teams like crazy,

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both men and women. It's just
so many things. Where would you

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put this glory years? Am I
overstayed in it? You know? I

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don't know. I mean, I've
been in Tucson thirty four years, so

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I've seen a lot. But you
know, you have to. It's so

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hard because I just I'm just I've
never been that kind of guy. I

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enjoy winning, and but you can't
look at yourself and go, I did

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this. You know. Maybe it's
because right now we have had coaches on

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campus full time except for tracking golf. You know that that allows them to

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make the student athlete a little more
accountable because they're there all the time and

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they can see what they're doing and
making sure they get into classes and practices

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and weight room. So I mean
as far as winning, no, I

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don't. I don't think we've ever
been a success full as we are right

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now. But that's not because of
me. I think it's because a lot

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of things that we've put in place
and and got to happen that hadn't happened

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in past years. Right, Edgar
Soto did a great job. I mean,

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Larry Tledo started athletics, so and
they were practicing and hangars down at

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the airport. So you know,
to say that I don't know, I

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know we're doing incredible and people are
very happy about it. And and it's

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just and listen, we don't and
I told you this a bunch of times.

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If it isn't for you and the
and the Moralesies and and the and

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the kvoas and everything else, we
don't, Greg Hanson, If we don't

409
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:42.480
get that pressed, people don't know. And and that's also helped us tremendously.

410
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:48.039
So Jim, just uh uh,
just tell us a little bit about

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what you where do you think junior
college athletics is headed? You know,

412
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.079
We've talked about, you know what
NIL and the transfer portal and all these

413
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.400
things are doing you know, at
the at the higher level, but obviously

414
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impacting and impacting your the junior college
level. We've talked about it with some

415
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.200
of the coaches. But you know, what is the future? What are

416
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we talking about here in terms of
the role that junior collegers are going to

417
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have in collegiate athletics going forward?
You know something that question, if you

418
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ask me truly right now, the
last and I'm not and I'm including high

419
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:25.160
school, I think the last real
amateur sports right now is JC ball because

420
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:30.200
they're in that in between high school
kids are now getting nils and it's a

421
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.960
big deal, and a kid's on
in the ninth grade and he's talking about

422
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:40.039
where he's going to high school or
where he's transferring to junior college kind of

423
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:44.079
gets left out of that, and
they're the last frontier in my opinion of

424
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:49.319
real amateur athletics. Now, where
does it hurt them because of the transfer

425
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:55.599
portals, because of people looking going
do I take a fifth year kid out

426
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:57.960
of the University of Miami or do
I go ahead and take a kid out

427
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.000
of a JC that's an All American. Well, he's already proven himself at

428
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.920
the Division one level, so you're
probably going to take that kid. So

429
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:11.759
it becomes less and less of junior
college and then high school kids getting that

430
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:18.279
opportunity because it at college athletics now
is insane when you have people like Nick

431
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.480
Saban walking out the door going I
just don't want to do this anymore.

432
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:27.920
I mean, it's going to be
difficult and for j C ball if people

433
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:33.039
don't look at it for really what
it's worth, and that's the opportunity you're

434
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:40.119
given those student athletes, male and
female in any sport, an opportunity to

435
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:45.240
not only improve their craft and maybe
get a break and go to a big

436
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:49.640
time school, but getting an education. And if people don't look at the

437
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:56.039
fact that you're keeping kids in school, JC football's in trouble. J C

438
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.880
Ball's in trouble. Period. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the answer

439
00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:03.119
that we thought you'd say, right
Jay, Because it's tough. It's tough

440
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.680
now, especially under these conditions.
Let me ask you. We got about

441
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:11.640
five minutes, so there's a lot
to talk to you about. You're sixty

442
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.039
ish sixty, What are you gonna
do? I mean, competitors compete,

443
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.559
what are you gonna do? Well, I'm gonna try to compete a little

444
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:23.799
bit better at golf. I'm probably
gonna we're gonna travel a little bit,

445
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:27.359
you know, I mean, And
that's exactly the key here, right.

446
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:32.640
I'm gonna be sixty three years old
in July, and uh, thank god

447
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:36.279
I made it through this this illness
this winter, which is just insane,

448
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:41.680
and you know, I'm just gonna
do Honestly, I don't want to punch

449
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.720
a clock. I'm just gonna sit
back and if I want to do something,

450
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.319
I'll go clean golf carts or paint
my house and play some golf and

451
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:52.839
get them traveling in and then who
knows. You know, I've been asked

452
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.680
by several people to coach football,
and I'm like, I need a year

453
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.880
off and then we'll just we'll see
where we're at. But you know that,

454
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.160
you say, what are you gonna
do after the day after you retire?

455
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.680
So I'm gonna stay in bed.
I don't even care if I'm not

456
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:14.680
sleeping because I wake up at five
o'clock anyway, don't do that, go

457
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.839
clean the yard or so one day. I don't know what that feel like,

458
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:19.480
you do it, do it,
you'll enjoy it, Thedn't you do

459
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.599
it again the next day. It
can become a bad habit right away.

460
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.400
Right, you might gain some weight
though, you know, just beat a

461
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.680
slug. Maybe start a radio show
or something, right, go do a

462
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.480
radio show with these with two old
guys. Yeah, the three old guys,

463
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.519
three year old guys. Exactly right. My knees are about eighty five,

464
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.759
so we can call it that.
So, so let's talk a little

465
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.200
bit about you know, things going
on this season. You know, just

466
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.880
how things are going basketball, both
basketball teams nationally rank. You got baseball

467
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.720
you know Underway and and softball and
those just U I don't know where you

468
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.799
at, man, how you feeling
about things? Oh amazing? We uh

469
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.359
we We just had our golf team. We just finished second up in our

470
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:05.359
first tournament. So that went really
well. Track, like I said,

471
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.759
is just blew it out of the
water. They're just we've got I want

472
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:15.519
I might be missed speaking, but
I think we have six number ones right

473
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.799
now in the nation. Wow.
So yeah, And actually we in a

474
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.599
couple of areas and I think one
of them is high jump. We're actually

475
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:28.279
one and two in the country.
So tracks doing amazing and they head out

476
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.680
to Florida on Wednesday for nationals,
for indoor nationals even though it's outdoors.

477
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:36.960
Baseball just ran off twelve in a
row, had a rough weekend, but

478
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.759
they just tore it up. Softball
went up to Phoenix and beat them to

479
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.559
took a double header from them this
weekend, which is huge because they're number

480
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.519
three in the nation, you know, and basketball women just went up to

481
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.920
number eleven. I want to say
men are thirteen, but I didn't get

482
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.519
a look at that. So I
feel great. I mean, we're in

483
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:59.480
a great position. Yeah, no
question. With about a couple of weeks

484
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:05.240
left, right before the tournament starts. Yeah, so basketball has uh we

485
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.200
we're gonna end up hosting first games, so with March seven and nine,

486
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:14.279
and then the at large bids go
out if you don't win the tournament on

487
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.160
the tenth, and then they'll take
off the next week and they'll be gone

488
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:21.359
for nine days. Track will come
back the end of the week, and

489
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.440
uh they start their outdoor season right
away at Willie Williams. And then like

490
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:29.559
I said, baseball and softball are
going full full more, and so's golf

491
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.079
and and they'll be getting ready for
nationals and and playoffs. We have about

492
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.240
a minute left, ninety seconds.
Jim. Let me ask you this might

493
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.079
be a weird question. I think
you were you were a police officer before

494
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:46.079
all this. How did that set
you up to become this or to handle

495
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:52.279
you know, I've always h coached. So my dad, you know,

496
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.440
he was a barber at first and
didn't make a lot of money in the

497
00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.319
sixties, and and became extodian in
high school. And my mom worked in

498
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.920
the office, and you know that
he was always a big guy. He

499
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.359
did it. Wasn't a sports guy
at all. Didn't didn't like him.

500
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.360
But he always wanted me to be
a teacher. So when I had to

501
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:15.079
retire, my legs finally let go. I always coached as part of being

502
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.880
a police officer, So it was
just natural fit for me to go back

503
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.800
to school and and get my degrees
in that and uh and and and going

504
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:28.920
that route. And I've been blessed
to have two amazing careers in my life

505
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.119
already, and not to mention a
husband, dad, and grandfather. So

506
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.760
I'm a pretty lucky dude. I
think I know somebody who knows you.

507
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.719
Uh, my brother Jean, I
believe was your your sergeant at some point.

508
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.320
He sure was. Yeah, okay, I don't know if that's a

509
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:46.639
good thing for you or a bad
thing, you know, to get that

510
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.000
out there. Great guy, he
was a great guy. He was a

511
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.719
great sergeant. I wanted to give
a shout. He's texting me, goes,

512
00:34:52.880 --> 00:35:00.199
Jimmy worked free. Yeah he listen. You know, Jean has has

513
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:04.119
always been on my side, and
even when I had to retire, and

514
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.239
and of course he was coaching softball
eema. He's uh, he's always been

515
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.119
uh, he's always been on my
side. So I owe him a lot.

516
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:13.320
He's a great guy. I love
him. Well, Jim, We're

517
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:15.199
always on your side. Thanks for
joining us. We'll have you back before

518
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:19.679
it's all over. Yeah. Oh
I appreciate you guys so much. Thank

519
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.960
you always be will Thanks much.
Thanks so so. What I realized from

520
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:29.079
all that is these you know,
Kevin Bacon has six degrees of separation,

521
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:34.440
Jay's got about sixties and Tucson.
I'm like, okay, you know,

522
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:38.000
hey, that my my my my
kids hate that. Yeah, they hate

523
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.880
that. Everywhere. I always find
that fascinating, isn't it? Everywhere we

524
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.199
go? Man, it doesn't matter
everywhere we go. Okay, funny story.

525
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:45.960
We got to go now though,
all right, we do have to

526
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.039
get out of here. We're gonna
come back. We'll take your cause.

527
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.599
I want to talk court storming again. Uh you know, I've had a

528
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:54.079
lot of thoughts over that over the
weekend. So let's let's do that,

529
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:58.039
and then we're gonna have breaking news
at the top of the hour and Greg

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Good weekend. Uh, Mosday's a
big game. Yeah, uh, Saturday's

570
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another big game. The rest are
all big games, raw big game.

571
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.679
Well, you know, as you
know again with Quhingon States in ACU,

572
00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:00.880
that put that put the you know, pacwech championship in Arizona's hands. But

573
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:04.360
it's a tough roads on the road. I've said this a number of times.

574
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:06.599
I don't know how many how many, but I'm gonna ask you guys,

575
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.880
now, do you think the and
it's helped them all your the Duke

576
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:15.599
win all the wins, But do
you think the Duke win the first game

577
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:22.280
kind of threw things out of whack
for Arizona? No, because because I

578
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.760
mean right, but I think what
you're implying is that the Duke win told

579
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.639
us that Arizona is better than they
are. And I don't think it necessarily

580
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.440
did that, partly because Duke has
not turned not to be all that great,

581
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.719
right, Okay, realistic people would
understand that. But and that's kind

582
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:42.000
of where I was maybe for some
fans, Yeah, but where you know,

583
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.360
we beat Duke. We were able
to win the national title from day

584
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:50.159
one, which is unrealistic. It's
unrealistic to think that you can win the

585
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.480
national title. Even if they didn't
beat them, they would think that.

586
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.760
But I'm just saying that no one
thought they'd be Duke that first game.

587
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:04.119
No, But but what I'm saying
is that regardless that Arizona, you can

588
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.039
sit there and think that there Arizona
might win the national title. So whether

589
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.800
or not they beat Duke is but
but they did, and that's what gave

590
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:15.840
them more loftier expectations by the fans, which are are real unrealist or realistic

591
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.719
or not realistic. Actually, I
think it had had more to do with

592
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:23.119
the other games that came along,
you know, uh beating Alabama, beating

593
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:29.239
Michigan State, beating uh uh.
But we've seen that those teams are again

594
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:34.079
but as but as Arizona's going through
that November December schedule, they were winning

595
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.000
all these games, you know,
That's what it was. I think it

596
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.760
was the whole body of all the
games of course that had that had fans

597
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:45.360
believing this team is really good.
But the key is, Steve, it

598
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.559
is really good. They can win
the national championship. I think you're I

599
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:52.280
don't know, maybe I'm putting words
into your mouth but I feel like you're

600
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:57.920
saying they beat Duke and they gave
them an unrealistic expectation they could win the

601
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.320
national champship when I think they the
National championship is a realistic who's the day?

602
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:05.639
Who's the day? Though? That's
fans. Are you talking about fans?

603
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:07.440
So that's what I'm talking about that, yes, they can. I

604
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:12.079
think it is a realistic expectation,
and every year they think that. But

605
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.840
I thought that, I'm thinking that
you didn't think they were ranked twelfth in

606
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.119
the country. But going to Duke. They beat Duke on the road and

607
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.559
oh god, let's get the reservations. Now, well, there was some

608
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:24.840
of that. Uh, there was
a lot of a lot of that.

609
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:29.760
And then again like to your point, the Alabama win, the Michigan State

610
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.800
win, the Wisconsin which I think
it was a very good win, has

611
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:36.960
kind of kind of kept it up. But then they hit the Pac twelve.

612
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:38.840
Yeah, and they said, oh
no, yeah, yea, let's

613
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:40.960
take this call. Hi, you're
on the Aaron Eye on the ball,

614
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.679
Hey Jay, Hey Steve, this
is done, don how are you?

615
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:54.159
I'm all right? The win over
Duke Art and I want to talk about

616
00:41:54.239 --> 00:42:02.079
the court storming stuff too, but
the win over due. It did set

617
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:08.320
some expectations. But the college basketball
season on the whole is such a it's

618
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:15.119
like March madness the whole way through. I mean, who who's really health

619
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:21.480
served? As far as the top
teams like Houston and Purdue. Well,

620
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.760
the last week Creighton goes to Yukon
or beats Yukon and then loses the next

621
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:30.119
game. It happens all the time. People just see it here. It

622
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:35.360
happens all the time. Yeah,
that's it's just crazy. It's a roller

623
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:40.320
coaster. Yes, And to try
and to try to hang national championship hopes

624
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:45.639
on on every single game in a
thirty game schedule, that's that's just exhausting.

625
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.559
Has been. That is a really
good point. All right, what

626
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.679
do you What do you think on
the court storming issue? You know what,

627
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.199
I have mixed feelings on it because
I've been on the court a time

628
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:05.920
or two, like back from high
school days and stuff like that. Of

629
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.480
course, at Arizona we don't storm
the court because if we win, we're

630
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:15.320
supposed to. So that's that's another
thing. But you got to think back

631
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:22.519
to it's sometime between like two thousand
and six and two thousand eight or something.

632
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.400
They had a court storming at Tucson
High in. One of the players

633
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:32.639
we talked about that mister K Joe
K I think was his name. Yeah,

634
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:38.159
And you know, almost all of
those kids that are running onto the

635
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:42.280
court, you know, they just
want to be there with their friends and

636
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.960
you know, and celebrate this good
time. But with so many people in

637
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:52.599
those small places, I mean,
it's like you can't even be a Dodger

638
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:57.840
fan and go to the game in
San Francisco and wear your stuff, you

639
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:01.360
know, you with the crowds and
everything, there's something could happen at any

640
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:07.800
time, right Well, yeah,
so I got mixed feelings about it because

641
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.039
I know it's a fun time,
you know, to run out the football

642
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:19.639
field after a big game or whatever. But it's you know, it's it's

643
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:24.320
like time in place. I don't
know, I don't know. It's well,

644
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.119
they're going to try to figure out
what to do, but it's going

645
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.079
to be almost important. Don't know
what. I don't know what you do

646
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.079
Joe K. Two thousand and four, two thousand and four, two thousand

647
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.280
and four. You know, maybe
maybe the players just find their way to

648
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.400
the sideline and to a nusher and
and wait it out. No, come

649
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:44.480
on, or you hit the lottery, you hit the lottery. Let me

650
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.719
see, I'm gonna wait a while
to jump up and down because no,

651
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:50.159
no, no, no, no, I'm talking about the players that are

652
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.360
on the floor because we're talking about
player safety, not not the not the

653
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:58.360
students have to protect the car rushers. Yeah, so what are you sharing

654
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.800
about them? What are you saying
they should do. I'm just saying,

655
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:05.440
go find a nusher, Go find
a security person, hang out with them,

656
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.480
because anybody that's rushing the court is
going to try to stay away from

657
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:12.199
security, right, get off the
floors. What you got to do.

658
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:16.440
And that's exactly all right. Don
Hey, thanks about playing surface as fast

659
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.280
as you can. And then if
you're on the wrong side to the locker

660
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:23.159
room, just make your way around
the outside. Dog tomorrow calls about world

661
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:30.960
peace, we'll save that one too. You know, it's I think it's

662
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.079
a fun thing for all the students. I think it's a fun thing to

663
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.800
do. You make you you,
you upset somebody. But on the other

664
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:42.320
hand, there's players safety, there's
a safety of the referees and all that

665
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:47.320
stuff. A lot of stuff to
worry about you understand with that thought,

666
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:52.079
and so we'll see you walk.
It takes a boutch Don appreciate it.

667
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:57.760
Take care. I think it's a
tough situation. It's a very tough situation.

668
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.280
You don't, Okay, he's sounds
like I think he's thirty nine.

669
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:07.519
Now I'm looking at an ESPN story
that ran in twenty thirteen. But you

670
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.800
know, the story on him was
he you know, he got knocked down,

671
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:14.840
He got pulled down in a in
a court storming at Tucson. I

672
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:19.800
saw a high school court's from when
he got tackled, suffered a torn carrot

673
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.679
and artery, and I think he
ultimately had a stroke. And you know,

674
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:28.360
he was headed to Stanford to play
basketball. But nonetheless, and in

675
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.239
that case, it wasn't I've you
know, if you've seen the video of

676
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.719
that, there wasn't anything he could
do. Somebody just came up right behind

677
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.559
him and tackled it. So those
instances are gonna happen if something that doesn't

678
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:44.360
happen. But you know, I
watched Philip Hoski's Philip Hoski's situation. He

679
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:46.239
did not try to get off the
court. He saw it coming. What

680
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.920
was what point was he on them
in the court at the very end or

681
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:52.159
was that the very end? How
could he prevent You know what I'm saying,

682
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.599
as soon as he saw the court
storm happening, he needed to be

683
00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:00.360
on his guard, and he was
walking off like nonchalant. Well, he's

684
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.480
been accused of not being on his
guard or being on his guarden, and

685
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:07.639
some people accused him of pushing the
student and tripping the student. Have you

686
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.280
seen that? Yeah? But what
I'm saying is what he should have done

687
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:14.480
is run the hell off the court
because he saw it coming. I don't

688
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.639
I don't know if that was preventive. And you see you've seem you know,

689
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:21.400
you know players, and you know
you do that and you figure out

690
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.679
there's just different ways, sure,
you know. And again I'm not putting

691
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:27.880
it all on him because you know
this thing and I don't know what they're

692
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.719
gonna do. There's been so many
different things that have been But you know

693
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.159
what we know doesn't work is finding
the schools because the kids don't give one

694
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.159
call. Yeah, yeah, because
they're not paying stuff. You know,

695
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:43.519
the SEC Institute of those fines for
football field storms, and that doesn't even

696
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.840
someone just suffered one hundred thousand dollars
fine last week, I think the previous

697
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:51.440
week, uh one of the sec
schools, and so that that doesn't matter.

698
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:59.639
What I thought was funny guy that
uh Jay Bellist, Do you see

699
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.400
what he said? He said,
you're not going to stop the court storm,

700
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:08.119
but the next one, get enough
security that you keep everybody on the

701
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:14.079
court at the end of the courtroom
and everybody gets a ticket or gets arrested,

702
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:16.199
and that'll stop it. And that
was kind of interesting. I don't

703
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.400
know how you do that. You'd
have to have, you know, one

704
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.840
hundred cops there to do that.
Do not let anybody off the court.

705
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.119
You tell them if you go on
the court, you're going to get arrested.

706
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:30.480
And then if the court storm happens, everybody who runs on the court

707
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.960
has to pay one hundred dollars or
two hundred dollars fine or whatever it is.

708
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:40.280
Right, I thought that was that
seems viable. Sounds good. However,

709
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:45.000
having worked for an organization that has
to pay the cops, the extra

710
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:52.360
cops I know is not cheap.
So one hundred cops, right, It's

711
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.239
the only thing I've heard though that
seems viable, right, because you're not

712
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:59.440
going to be able to have enough
cops there sure to keep it from happening.

713
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:01.840
And that was Jay Billis's point.
You're not gonna stop it from happening

714
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.639
no matter how many cops you have
there. I mean, we've seen videos

715
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.280
of the security people get on the
field at a storm and they just let

716
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:14.840
the cops on the side. And
the problem is the people getting hurt are

717
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:16.280
the old people trying to jump the
fence. Right, the whole idea of

718
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:21.000
okay, everybody wait and then you
can storm the court. That doesn't work,

719
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:22.840
right, And then it didn't work
on Saturday. So I think you

720
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:28.840
find a way to punish the ones
that actually storm the court. I don't

721
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:30.880
know how viable it is, but
that's the only thing that even came close

722
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:35.199
to seeing. Hm. Maybe that
might work. Yeah, good luck with

723
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:36.800
it. But you know, I
don't know. I mean, Steve,

724
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:42.280
you know, we've been here how
many years and there was one remember forget,

725
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.360
but that scared the crap out of
me. People were jumping over the

726
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.239
stepping on the table where I was
sitting me and the next guy jumping over

727
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.599
the top. And those are so
called I wanted to get to another statement

728
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.360
here. Those are the old people, so called old people, like who

729
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.920
are sitting Yeah, who are sitting
behind? I wanted to go there because

730
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.119
I'm gonna ask. We have doctor
Robbins POSSI me. On Friday, they

731
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:05.920
got into a Facebook debate about the
kids being on the sides, right,

732
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.840
that they should move them on the
sides. We've talked about this not ever

733
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:14.280
possible. No, the kids don't
pay the bills. The lums who have

734
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:16.800
those seats are not going to change
their ways to move that seat. And

735
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:21.760
I'm thinking, why doesn't anybody understand
this? There's too much money involved,

736
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.400
especially now, and it's never gonna
happen. Also, we're talking about behavior

737
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:28.440
here, right, so like if
you've moved, I mean, we aren't

738
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:30.559
even talking about earlier. Just this
season we've talked about and last seasons two

739
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:35.440
with the UCLA incident. Yeah,
we're talking about students getting too riley,

740
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.320
too unruly. You want to move
them closer to the benches. Yeah.

741
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:42.760
I have a vivid memory of a
court storm that I was in on and

742
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:46.440
that was when the students were sitting
in bleachers on three sides of the court

743
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:51.920
those seventy eight The seventy eight game
against ucl was seventy eight, seventy nine.

744
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.000
Yeah, it was against UCLA U
S. I was number four,

745
00:50:55.360 --> 00:51:01.159
beat them and the bleachers around on
those recites emptied faster than you can even

746
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:06.760
imagine. And I was one of
them, right, and and uh that,

747
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.599
No, you're not gonna be able
to do that, for sure,

748
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.079
I don't. But you can't give
those seats to them anyway. You can't,

749
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:16.519
just can't. I don't understand mean
people Terry Francona sitting in the front

750
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:21.920
row in the floor seats. Yeah, you know you can't have students behind

751
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.840
those guys. No, it's it's
so much. I got into it with

752
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:28.239
one of our guys team Unions,
and he has all the solutions to solve

753
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.599
the world, and I think they're
not gonna do it. And one of

754
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.280
the people responded to me is,
well, why don't the people who buy

755
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.159
those tickets give them to the kids. You're gonna tell me you're gonna spend

756
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.039
five thousand dollars for a ticket and
give those tickets away? Who in the

757
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:43.960
right mind? And then they responded, I talked to a couple of people

758
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:46.039
that they said they would do that. Who stop it? That's like the

759
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:50.679
person that went on and tweeted,
Arizona's got hiring for you? Why are

760
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:54.639
they hiring a football coach? That
is so I don't get it, Jay,

761
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:59.199
to the point. To the point
is I read this for our discussions

762
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:00.840
and stuff. If I read it
just for whatever reason, I'm thinking,

763
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.920
why in that world am I reading
this craft? I don't look at me.

764
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:09.000
I don't know what it's like on
Facebook, your Twitter, and you're

765
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:14.719
thinking, does it anybody doesn't make
any sense? Read it? And I

766
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.519
continue to read it, and I'm
thinking, what the hell that's your ticket?

767
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.320
I mean, first of all,
how do you find someone to pick

768
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:21.920
you? Like? Walking around campus? Like, all right, who's the

769
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:24.800
who was my front row seeds?
Who's sober? Who does not drink?

770
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:29.039
Who's not gonna yell? What are
the people who have those seats? Are

771
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:30.559
you kidding me? You mean to
me, I'm gonna pay and give them

772
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:37.119
away? Doesn't make any sense to
me. Zero, We'll talk and we're

773
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.440
gonna see if we have doctor,
doctor Robinson and Friday. What's the possibility

774
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:45.119
of what you possibly do? All
right, we're at the top of the

775
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:51.840
hour and take our break. We're
losing our mind. Kevin's back with breaking

776
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:53.599
News and then Greg Hanson at about
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