WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:07.559 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jakin Zalis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:14.279 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services. Make sure your most prized possessions katz 3 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:19.519 R two SID and i Heeart Radio Station. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome 4 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:22.320 to I on the Ball here on Fox Spots fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. 5 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:26.800 He's Jakensos. Got our guy Jason in with us today. Welcome to 6 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.239 Wednesday, Windy Wednesday. Jason is going to be spending the summer with us. 7 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:33.960 YEP, it's lucky you, Jason. We're going to tune you into 8 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:39.200 an old dude soon. If you didn't already know that. Yeah, Jay, 9 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:43.439 appreciate you. Appreciate you. Yea, all that insight. He needs 10 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:47.000 other people to tell what they're doing brow what. I got no NBA knowledge 11 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:52.439 whatsoever. So I mean, I know I know some names, but you 12 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:55.679 know what you need to watch the game, and I got yeah. And 13 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:57.920 I'm home alone tonight. You know, my wife's still out of town on 14 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:00.119 a business pip. I have nobody to talk to other than the dog, 15 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.560 and he doesn't like you very much. So you'll be talking to the TV. 16 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:06.159 I'll be talking to the TV. I'll be yelling, I'll be tweeting, 17 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:08.480 texting you guys, tell you what crap it is that my guys aren't 18 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:11.519 doing what they're supposed to be doing. Expect you here from me to give 19 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:14.400 it. I didn't even tell you what I did, so I'm not gonna 20 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:19.719 tell you because because because because you know that's it. Just did you find 21 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:23.280 out who? Who want? Who's? Have you heard anything from the people 22 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:27.040 you forgetting to reach out to those guys? Let me tell you something I 23 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:30.480 was gone for. I was gone for a few days, obviously with my 24 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.599 uncle who's older than my mom, who was older, and it was like 25 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:38.760 being in cocoon. Who was being in cocoon? And I realized sometimes with 26 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:42.920 you, it's beating man. I'm sorry. I cha said yesterday. So 27 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:44.920 I asked you yesterday, are you coming in? You said yeah? I 28 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:52.599 said, Chase coming in today? You asked Jason, Yeah, Steve, 29 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.560 I don't know what you say. You know, I forget too, but 30 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:57.920 you like doing a lot, which is I'm just teasing you. Of course, 31 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:02.519 No, I know who I am. Okay, I know exactly who 32 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:07.359 I am. Do your kid? What are your kids think? Just exactly 33 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:09.360 where you would think they think, right, I think, you know, 34 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:15.639 they just wonder it just like that. We had that conversation, like right, 35 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:17.479 right, right, right, it's funny. It's funny. I hope 36 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:21.479 I don't get to that, please, please, Well, let's talk about 37 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:23.159 somebodys. Let's talk about sports. A lot of things going on. You 38 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.639 have a lot of breaking news, right, Jake Cool A lot of things 39 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:30.199 involved in Arizona, or a few things involved in Arizona. Huggins has made 40 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:32.599 it. There's a decision on Huggins because Kay and all that stuff. So 41 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:37.199 okay, okay, we have a pretty We put together a show today that 42 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.800 it's going to be interesting, very interesting. Yeah. So there's a boxing 43 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:43.639 match here. I covered boxing was a long time Jay. You know that 44 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.960 you covered a long time ago. Uh. The Doll Soul has a great 45 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:51.000 boxing for situation all of a theater, but they don't do any promotions. 46 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.599 They don't do it. You wouldn't know that this is happening. I was 47 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.159 there a couple weeks ago, saw the billboard and then someone said yesterday you're 48 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:00.159 going and says, oh, I forgot, But we wouldn't know. So 49 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:04.680 we trucked down the promoter or the president of the group that's bringing him in. 50 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:07.879 So he's gonna talk about the card this weekend, talking about Tussam in 51 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:08.800 a fight town. You know it and I know it. We'll talk to 52 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:12.759 him about that. So that should be fun for the first hour and the 53 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:15.400 second hour. We really probably have a lot of fun. We've been wanting 54 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:16.919 to get this guy for a while, but I just wanted things to settle 55 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.879 as much as they possibly could. They're not gonna settle. They're not gonna 56 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:27.520 settle. But it's a Brian Howell who covers the Colorado football for the Boulder 57 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.919 Daily Camera and he's been with us a few times right over you know, 58 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:32.479 anytime here was gonna plays Colorado. He's a writer that we contact to give 59 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:36.120 us a preview. One not good. So he's had what a couple of 60 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:39.800 months now with a few months with coach Prime or whatever they call him. 61 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:44.280 And that's a question. That's one of the questions because he talked about that 62 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:46.520 before he got there, that he knew that he'd be up against something, 63 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.840 but he didn't know what. Right. So here we are. So that 64 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:52.919 should be a lot of fun and what he's going through. Um in the 65 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.360 second hour, So no I'm looking looking forward to seeing how things have been 66 00:03:55.400 --> 00:04:00.840 going over there. Look, I know I'm a hundred percent certain I would 67 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:04.159 not want to be covering no Colorado. No, No, I don't know 68 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:06.960 that for a fact. I was gonna I'll say this for I'll say this 69 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:11.439 for breaking news, because a guy who sends me odds all the time for 70 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:15.000 whatever they did the projections for conferences to win the PAC twelve back, you 71 00:04:15.040 --> 00:04:18.959 know, sec blah blah blah. So I'll ask you who you think Carozona 72 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:23.439 is gonna whatever's gonna be, what Colorado's gonna be. Uh, it might 73 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:28.959 surprise you, um, but I you know I absolutely would not want to 74 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.879 be covering that. No, No, of course. I mean it's hard 75 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:35.160 enough to cover a sport, you know, working it every day, um, 76 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:38.800 doing all the things you got to do, getting access and all those 77 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:43.279 things, without all the hoopla that's surrounding. Uh Uh. Let me take 78 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.199 even even here at Arizona. It's not the same team. It's not our 79 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.279 grandfather's team. Right, we covered it. We had access. If something 80 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:54.720 happened, we would get information or ask and they would give it to us. 81 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.279 Maybe not prompt, but many times prompt. Now it's like we have 82 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.079 to go through hoops to get to them just to some basic info. Correct. 83 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:03.160 So it's not fun covering, you know. And I'll tell you what 84 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.879 it's gonna be. It's gonna be interesting to see how how during the football 85 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:12.600 season or when camp starts, how the Jayden Delores situation with all questions is 86 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.959 you know, is he gonna come to you as many press conferences as as 87 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:18.079 he would if this hadn't happened. How often are we going to see him? 88 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.879 Uh? You know, what are the parameters when you're talking to him? 89 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:25.839 Uh? You know, all kinds of how much is Jed gonna say 90 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:29.519 about it? All that? But you know, being in the PR business 91 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:31.279 for a long time and me being the reporter having to ask you through the 92 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:35.319 business, you do it one time, get all the questions out done, 93 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:39.319 Boom, it's over that. That was always my advice. I would say, 94 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.360 let's okay, let's address it. Let's get it done, and say 95 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.120 we're gonna address it now. Ask all the questions you want to ask, 96 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:48.680 and then we're moving on. We're moving on and get it and just yeah, 97 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:50.959 that's what you said, That's what I would suggest. I would too. 98 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:56.240 We would you know, I had opportunities to suggest that both in UH 99 00:05:56.240 --> 00:06:00.199 working at as the pr goat Tisson Electric and the city at Tisson. Yeah, 100 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:04.000 we got a call hesitate this call. Hi, You're on the air 101 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:08.959 and I on the ball. How are you guys? This is a Gabriel 102 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:14.800 calling from California. Say can we talk more about Jaden de Laura? What 103 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.439 do you what do you have on your mind? Gabriel? Um, So 104 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:24.399 I've been thinking about it more. And then the last night I listened to 105 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:31.120 Justin Spears and Michael lab on the Wildcast on the Wildcast Plus broadcast, and 106 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:40.800 Arizona is in a lose lose scenario because either they knew about it or even 107 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:46.519 they don't or either they didn't know about it. And also Jetfish and Jaden 108 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:53.120 de Laura need to have a press farm and have the media in Tucson ask 109 00:06:53.199 --> 00:07:00.279 them what what do you know? And just and they need to they needs 110 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:04.720 to have a French conference press conference. And if they don't have a press 111 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:11.759 conference, the same situation is going to happen when jet Fish goes to the 112 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:18.199 Pastoral Median Media Day in Las Vegas and or Novada or or in La and 113 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:25.480 and listen Jason Delore, in my opinion, is on thin right. What 114 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:30.480 he did or what he allegedly did, it is absolutely a horrn and and 115 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:38.120 I will still support Arizona football as a whole as a whole and jet Fish, 116 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:45.600 but its rooting for Jason Delora is kind of difficult in my opinion. 117 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:53.000 Gabriel, I think you're you're on the right rights whatever. You are no 118 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:56.439 different than a lot of fans because they have a higher time figuring out what 119 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:58.839 they're gonna do and who to cheer for. So you're, you know, 120 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:01.079 don't you you're If that's your opinion, that's a good one. If not, 121 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:05.240 that's not. It's not a bad one because I'm hearing the same thing 122 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:11.480 right And can I see another scene? And I'm kind of on pin pins 123 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:20.480 and needles in case something else comes out from from from Hawaii, and I 124 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:28.199 just I really want Arizona just to be proactive. We don't we don't want 125 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:35.519 this to happen at at Arizona. So and I'm pretty sure that all right, 126 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:43.279 our rivals as creating the stummies are making fun of us, But I 127 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:48.000 really don't care what they what they said, they're probably gonna gaslight us anyhow, 128 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:54.399 but Arizona needs to be proactive and and sure people are probably gonna forget 129 00:08:54.440 --> 00:09:01.559 it when when the seasons start, but right now it's the elephant in the 130 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:09.480 room. And just if I can't really piss off about this. Yeah, 131 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.600 no, I hear you, We all both will, we both hear you. 132 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:15.399 Um, it's a tough situation that we have. We haven't talked much 133 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.000 about it. We talked about it initially, right Jay, because it's it's 134 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:22.120 it's we don't really know what to say, because we have a lot of 135 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:24.519 questions. We have a lot of questions. Right. I don't think Jay 136 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:28.759 and Gabe that they're gonna have or Gabriel that they're gonna have anything until the 137 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.559 fall, right, Nothing will be said or done until the fall with them 138 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.000 too. But I agree with you, there needs to be some type of 139 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.879 thing with Jed and and even Dave hekey, uh, those three on the 140 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.559 podium asking or being asked questions. Let's just let the questions come and as 141 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:46.200 as we said, get it all out, get it over with and move 142 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:48.639 on. Then that's it, right, Because you're right here, you're making 143 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:52.039 a good point. If this is still hanging out there and packed twelve media 144 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:56.919 day. Um, it's gonna get it's gonna get asked and one one one 145 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:03.480 scene. Um, I know people will forget it, but um, this 146 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:11.159 is Jaden Delor needs to needs to be smart and not at not as dumb. 147 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:18.679 I was gonna say, no, yeah, smart, yea be smart, 148 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.159 right. I think that he will have to. He has no choice 149 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:26.440 to Gabriel, thank you for calling Gabe. And can I say anoicing, 150 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.039 Um, do you think this will affect recruiting? I don't think no, 151 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.919 no, no, no, not at all. I do. Okay, 152 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.919 thank you you guys, Sure, thank you, Gabriel. Among those lines 153 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.879 are we we are okay with time? So so we loved Justin because you 154 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.759 were. He talked about Justin Justin and he posted his story she had to 155 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.360 write last week or something like that, and he says, this is not 156 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.480 what I this is not what I signed up for. Hey, we you 157 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:56.120 didn't. We've gone through shootings back in the day, we uh alleged rapes 158 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:01.200 with with players, things that happened. And you're thinking, I went to 159 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.200 school to cover games. This used to be the toy department. I you 160 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.080 know, he covers the sugar sculls. So I ran into him at the 161 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.360 Sugar Sculls game on Saturday, and he was very unhappy. Yeah, because 162 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.759 it's you know, I'm kind of in a joking way, in a laughing 163 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:16.480 way, saying exactly that I don't this isn't what I wanted to be doing. 164 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.080 I want, you know, I want to cover games. But we 165 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:20.200 all feel that we should feel that way. Nobody wants to happen, and 166 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.639 we've all been there to deal with deal with that stuff, and we always 167 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.399 you know, you just sometimes you have to um. You know. I 168 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.799 fortunately had the benefit of being a cop reporter for a once, so the 169 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.440 police blodder stuff, you know, it was easy for me. But I 170 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.399 doesn't mean I liked it. You know. I didn't like, you know, 171 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.720 having to go to the go to city court when Melvin Smith had fired 172 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:46.559 his gun at some people at skate Country seven eighty or eighty eighty nine, 173 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:50.440 you know, having to do stuff like that. I you know, you 174 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:52.879 don't like having to do that. That's why some it was great to having 175 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:56.399 you were in the cop side. If you're covering the team, that's one 176 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:58.519 thing because now you're kind of with the team having to deal with the day 177 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.279 to day. But you were on the new side, and you didn't have 178 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:03.159 to deal with it on the day of the day to day stuff. So 179 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:07.240 no, nobody wants to have to do that. But I, you know, 180 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.879 you may you bring up a good suggestion, Steve, is that? 181 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.759 Um? And and again, I you know, I had been in the 182 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.519 business house and I had the opportunity to advise people like that, say guys, 183 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:18.840 let's let's just answer to it and then we let's get it the hell 184 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:20.879 out of the way, sooner the better. Yeah, it seemed to the 185 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.240 better. But I also agree with you too. I don't think they can 186 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.279 do or say anything until maybe they do something right before camp starts or something 187 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.679 like that, or before Pack twelve me today or whatever. Um. I 188 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:35.159 can't I can't see them out of the blue saying all right, let's hold 189 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.519 a press conference to talk about it. I didn't see that they're going to 190 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.679 do that. Yeah. No, uh, okay, watch time? How 191 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.200 much time we have? About two minutes? Well yeah, about three two 192 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.600 and a half minutes? Okay, okay, So looking forward to all that. 193 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.679 Uh, in terms of our guests today, big boxing match this weekend 194 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.720 and then uh and then um with the Colorado right, yeah, yeah, 195 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:56.720 I mean you know, uh again, you know Brian House. You know 196 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.759 we've had talked to him a bunch of times, you know, seeing him 197 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.279 at the aactwelve stuff. I think I have too, but I just find 198 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:09.000 up Bryan, how's it going you sleep here? You're having fun? Yeah, 199 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:13.080 it's funny. And I'll ask him this because you watch you watch Facebook 200 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.759 and Twitter, right, he has all the Colorado has been tweeting out these 201 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.039 these speeches that he does in front of his players. Yetta yet and I'm 202 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.960 thinking I wonder as a player now, when he was a player, did 203 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.720 he abide by what the stuff he was saying? Does that make sense? 204 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.200 The question where he's asking these players is he doing did he do as a 205 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.360 player what he's asking? Exactly? Yeah, we'll ask all of it that's 206 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.240 been asked because he's asking a lot. And I'm sure if you're it's like 207 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.759 a new boss that you get. We've talked about this and you don't like 208 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:43.559 the Boston, Boston don't like you, but you need your job. What 209 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.000 do you do? You shake your head and say, whatever you need me 210 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:50.360 to do, work the until you get tired of it or you find a 211 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.200 new job. Exactly. Not exactly. I mean, that's and that's all 212 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.399 you can do because you just you know, you're either with the program or 213 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.080 you're not. You're not running clearly. You know. He's gonna endo with 214 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.759 an idea that most everybody here is not with the program. So I'm getting 215 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.559 rid of as many, rid of as many people as I possibly can, 216 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:11.080 and that that's what he's done. He's obviously got the backing of his athleg 217 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.320 director, who was you know, who was quoted as saying, other teams 218 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.320 have done this. You know, there's nothing wrong with what we're doing, 219 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:18.679 so, you know, and and it didn't need a house clean. They 220 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.320 were won in eleven, they were they were terrible this year, you know, 221 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.320 and Jed Fish turned his roster over as well. It just wasn't as 222 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:28.360 high profile because Jed Fish is not Deon Sanders, right right, Okay, 223 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.519 let's go and take our break. We'll come back and we'll have h we'll 224 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:39.120 have Matt McGovern, who's the president of World World Fighting Chant World Fighting Championships, 225 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:43.080 who's uh promoting the boxing card at Casino Del Soul this weekend. So 226 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:46.879 we'll talk a little boxing when we get back. 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Brought to you by the Southern Arizona Business Coalition Steve 279 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:57.359 Ravera Jaden Solids. They have their eye on the board on two suns of 280 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:04.279 sports station Fox Sports fourteen fifty. They welcome back to wing the ball here 281 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:10.079 on Fox Sports fourteen fifty everything catch us up with us two and a half 282 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.880 man here. Yeah, yeah, Well, I don't know what to say. 283 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:18.000 I'm busy reading up on the on the Bob Huggins thing. Uh reading 284 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.400 pad forties column about and we can talk about this in a in a second, 285 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.319 but uh, you know, we just uh, I guess right now 286 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:30.880 we should ahead and let people know. UM a little programming note for the 287 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:33.920 next couple of days. Uh, we're are We're not gonna have a show 288 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:37.359 tomorrow or Friday. Both Steve and I have some business we've got to tend 289 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:41.519 to. Um, so we're gonna we have to take the rest of the 290 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.279 week off. We'll be back on Monday and uh, you know, kick 291 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:48.240 the summer off and get one. So here it is, hello, mister 292 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:51.839 mcgovernors. This shoe, Yes, sir, how are you good to talk 293 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:53.440 to you? Well, this is Steve. We've got Jay here and you 294 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:56.839 are on the air. Yeah, you are on here. Just to be 295 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.839 sure. Hey, well, when you get into Tucson, still decide a 296 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:04.519 scheduled coming in Friday, but I might coming a little bit earlier. So 297 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:07.000 let me ask you. You probably are well aware of the two sons of 298 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:11.240 fight Town. It have been known for that the fights are few and far 299 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:14.880 between. Who found whom? Did the casino find you? Or you found 300 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:18.039 the casino to bring some boxing here? You know, we do fights all 301 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.160 over the country. Based in Las Vegas. We have a good reputation in 302 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.359 the casino business, and we've been talking for probably you know, five or 303 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.480 six years about doing the show there. I don't like going to a lot 304 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:34.559 of spots with other promotions in the place, just because the fans don't get 305 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:38.720 used to our style of fights, and you know, they're operating. I 306 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:44.440 don't think they did a fight in twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two, 307 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:48.160 but they did one in the title fight in twenty twenty one, and there's 308 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:52.319 an opportunity. We wanted to do a special event for the military and first 309 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:57.559 responders, and so we're doing a fight there in May and also again in 310 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:03.720 November. Okay, okay um. I know the publicity has been kind of 311 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:07.319 shy, but what's the way it must be Friday when you come in, 312 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.759 or if you come in, say again the way in when the wayan's happened 313 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:15.519 Thursday or Friday? The way in? So will happen the night before Friday. 314 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.759 And they're free and open to the public, and they are at five 315 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:26.440 thirty inside the casino on Friday night and very nice venue. Just just real 316 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:32.279 quick up, do you have locals on the card? Oh? Absolutely. 317 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:36.440 The whole entire fight card is locals. We're all about getting local and regional 318 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:41.160 fighters um opportunities, and you know, everybody's gotten behind this fight card and 319 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:48.559 we have every fight in every fighter that we wanted in town on the card. 320 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:51.920 Okay, super well, So, so describe how you know, how 321 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:55.440 this card came together, what you guys were shooting for. Uh, you 322 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.200 mentioned you know a lot of local guys. So just tell us how this 323 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:02.000 thing came together and what fans can expect to see when they come out. 324 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:06.839 You know, it's going to be a pro and amateur event. So we 325 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:11.440 have USA Boxing and then we have a tribal commission sanctioned the event. We 326 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:17.160 have the Ramirez brothers. They're two locals, very very popular in town. 327 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.559 They're from Tucson, Jensen and Jose Ramirez. Jose Ramirez is fighting another guy 328 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:30.839 from Tucson, Francisco and Martin Brow. He's from Scrapyard Boxing Jim. But 329 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.640 it's all locals, and I think we have locals versus locals on almost every 330 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:38.240 single fight. So it'll be Tucson versus two Sons and two Thumb versus Phoenix. 331 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:42.759 There's a lot of great Jim's Pete Cnenza's Jim from Two Sons on the 332 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:48.839 car Rovas from Florence, Arizona. But it's just a bunch of upping thumbing 333 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.680 fighters from the local area and that's that's a recipe for success for us. 334 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:56.480 We do twenty five casino shows throughout the country a year, and we're all 335 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:00.000 about helping these guys to the next level, so they don't get a lot 336 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.960 of opportunities. If you have a fight in Tucson, you might see one 337 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:07.240 or two of them on the fight card, but the rest are out of 338 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.559 town fighters. And so this time if we're giving that respect to the locals, 339 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:15.960 and you'll probably see probably twelve to fifteen local fighters on the fight card. 340 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:21.599 Okay, okay, I was going to ask you you're not just boxing, 341 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:25.839 right, you do other things ufc AM I correct. Yeah, we 342 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:30.680 do mixed martial arts and we also do kickboxing in different markets, and we've 343 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:33.799 looked at it. For Tucson, we wanted to start off with boxing because 344 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.839 it's such a big fight town and there's you know, world champions from that 345 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:40.799 area, and so that's what we wanted to start out. We might do 346 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:45.920 MMA, but yeah, our company called World Fighting Championships. This is our 347 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.160 first show in Arizona. We do fights all over the country and really love 348 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.920 it. Yeah, so I was just gonna ask you you've been here before, 349 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:56.519 but it doesn't look like you have. If this is your first card, 350 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.640 did you have to come in and look look at the venue, kind 351 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.440 of do sign some documents things like that. Now, actually we didn't come 352 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:07.799 in town. We were actually scheduled to do two shows in twenty twenty, 353 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:11.799 and you know how that was. So so that's you know, that's is 354 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:17.519 I haven't been fortunate enough to go to casino bell so yeah, you's had 355 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:19.960 to go out there for that fight. But we had a lot of established 356 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:26.480 relationships in the area and one of the ladies who's worked for us for a 357 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.119 long time, I think about ten years. She's based in Phoenix, and 358 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.000 so she has a real feel for the market and relationships with the gyms, 359 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:37.920 and so it's been helpful. So that you mentioned, you know, you 360 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.880 do casino shows. I mean that's certainly become a market for everybody, right 361 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:47.119 obviously for concerts, but specifically for boxing. What what do you guys like 362 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:52.119 about those venues? You know, they have a lot of stuff in infrastructure 363 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.119 in place, there's a lot of frequent customers to those events that we can 364 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.480 promote. They're usually in a great location in the area and they have, 365 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:04.960 you know, facilities that other people don't have from a venue statepoint, so 366 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:10.640 they have a difference that sort of revenue streams between food and beverage, hotel, 367 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:15.519 and then gaming, and so it helps offset some of the costs to 368 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:18.839 make these events possible. If we did have a casino, these events wouldn't 369 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:27.799 be profitable or possible. And if the fight community is small shrinking and shrinking, 370 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:34.559 and you know, we're our niches regional casinos and working with locals and 371 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:41.440 driving the traffic that those casinos want. And so they're all about the locals. 372 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.880 They're not pulling people from Wisconsin to the event or China or wherever. 373 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:52.480 And I'm all about getting these local fighters opportunities and getting as many kids involved 374 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:56.799 in this event because they need to get to the next level. And I 375 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:02.640 don't have, you know, aspiration to pull some former gold medalists from China 376 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:06.759 and he's gonna come in and look a local bye boys. But um, 377 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.559 you know, I want to put on good shows from the fans, and 378 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:14.920 that's what's been our set recipe for success? If you've done one hundred and 379 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:18.960 seventy s show do the last ten years and so and I have more business 380 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:25.559 than I possibly can handle. So it's good. We're in t Son this 381 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:30.400 week, We're in Cincinnati next week, and then in three weeks in Cleveland. 382 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.640 So we stayed busy and we're blessed to have some may good opportunities. 383 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:38.359 So so Jay posted a photo of you on Twitter and Facebook, and then 384 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:41.640 you send me a photo just just now. You're like twelve years old. 385 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:47.119 Why didn't you start doing this? I think it's just a good picture of 386 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:52.240 me. I think the last couple of years of the five businesses who made 387 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:56.240 the Age brought twenty years. But yeah, I do. I'm fortunate to 388 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:02.160 look pretty young. I'm thirty nine years old and been blessed. But sometimes 389 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.240 they still get carded. But I can't you know, I can't believe I 390 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:10.119 sold my first casino show twelve years ago and I didn't have a fight promotion 391 00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:15.400 name, and I probably looked twelve in all reality, and they let me 392 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.640 have human fight in their billion dollars casino, so they trusted me enough for 393 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:23.799 that. And I've had a good string, you know, over the last 394 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:29.039 ten twelve years in this business, and you know, we we probably could 395 00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:33.119 do fifty shows if I wanted to, But it's a it's a definitely a 396 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.200 lot of work, and there's a lot of people involved in these shows, 397 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.279 and there's plenty of curveballs. Okay. So so it sounds like you, 398 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:44.519 if my math is correct, you started doing this when you're about twenty seven 399 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:48.319 years old. How do you get into this business? And what interested you 400 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.480 about this business? I love fights, you know, I became I was 401 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.000 a fan first. I always wanted to work in sports whenever we were a 402 00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.839 kid. And so I went to college and got experienced work in sports, 403 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:06.680 and you know, we kept building and building building, and then I worked 404 00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:11.480 in the NBA development lead some sponsorships, and I went to a fight. 405 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.599 There's just a local oriented fight just like ours on Saturday night at casino bill 406 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:22.279 Fall, and I met the promoter and asking him, you know, questions 407 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.680 about the business side of it, and he said that you think you can 408 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.559 do better? And I said yeah, He's like, all right, let's 409 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.680 talk. And that's how I got in the fight business. And so I 410 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:38.119 got a casino deal and Rono for the guy, and hey, he had 411 00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:45.000 about you'd show them that casino whole year. And you know, that's how 412 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:51.119 we got into the business. And and you know, I think it paid 413 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.599 very much to do those deals. Will I got out of the business, 414 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.400 and then I got pulled back in by Caesar's Corporation. They wanted to partner 415 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.160 with me on a fight promotion rand. And that's how I got pulled back 416 00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:03.920 in. What do you like about it? What do you like about it? 417 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:07.839 What do I like about it? I like to put together you know 418 00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:14.400 you I like the deal, right, I like to put together the deal. 419 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.200 You know, that's the best casino in Tucson. It's the most beautiful 420 00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:25.039 venue. You know. It's a these guys you're getting behind me, trusting 421 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:29.000 me that I'm going to put together a great show. And then I go 422 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.279 and make new relationships with people I have no idea, and then I put 423 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:40.480 together a whole event and they show up with three thousand new friends, and 424 00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:42.680 we do it over again and over again and over again. And so it's 425 00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:48.240 just a challenge and the accomplishment. And I've never been to Casino dol fol 426 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.119 but you know, we're gonna have a great show on Saturday night, we'll 427 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.599 probably have nine or ten fights and we have a whole bunch of good people 428 00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.839 involved in the show. When we can do it over and over and over 429 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.319 again with the work that we put in. Took a lot of work to 430 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:10.039 build all those relationships, but you know it would be you know, as 431 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.759 long as the fans come out and support these fighters and the fighters have good 432 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.599 time. Now we can do it over and over and over again to be 433 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.680 successful to doing it. But um, you know, my favorite part of 434 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:27.039 doing this is the challenge of creating the great fights for fans and sell a 435 00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:33.200 lot of tickets and proven the people right that got behind me. So to 436 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.359 answer your questions through my eyes, Jake, I think it's the storylines, 437 00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.920 because you know boxers have some of the best storylines. They start with nothing 438 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.200 and end up being very successful down the road. So do you have any 439 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:48.880 kids with great those great success stories or you know kind of maybe just starting 440 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:56.519 Oh yeah, no, you know, we have I would say probably twenty 441 00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.759 five ye old champions that stop for our organization and built himselves up. One 442 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:07.240 that's fighting. You know, he's an undisputed light weight champion of the world 443 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.319 and his name's Devin Haney, and he is fighting at MGM Grand in front 444 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.839 of a sold out crowd on May twentieth, next weekend, and he has 445 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:21.720 four belts and he makes He probably made twenty million dollars in this business. 446 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:26.640 And he followed her so three times, I think three years ago. Right, 447 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.519 So these guys aren't that far away. If he didn't have twenty twenty, 448 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.400 you know, this guy would have been you know down here. He 449 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:40.039 would have made, he would have made. He probably made ten million dollars 450 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:45.440 after he founded my last show. He fought out Alkali in ranch from Rage 451 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.160 Palm Springs area for US. He fought for US in Pittsburgh, he fought 452 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:56.680 for US in the Louisiana and now he's the top guy selling Loman Jaco and 453 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:01.559 probably making five to seven million dollars on next Saturday. Right, So let 454 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.359 me ask you. You said something earlier that I may not have paid attention 455 00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:07.880 to. But there's a question. You know, as we grow up, 456 00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.839 a baseball players are few and far between because they're not playing in inner cities, 457 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.960 the minorities are not playing as much in boxing, or is the is 458 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:20.720 the sport running out of boxers or are they still trying to do what they've 459 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.559 always done, trying to you know, make some money boxing. Does it 460 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:28.319 make sense? You know, there's a there's a good amount of boxers, 461 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:36.279 but amateur boxing is you know, they don't make it a production right As 462 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.319 fans, we want to go to an entertaining event. We want to see 463 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:47.039 you know, entertaining fights, and USA Boxing isn't hasn't given promoters the opportunity 464 00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:51.599 to do that. It has to be like a nonprofit inside of a gym 465 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:58.039 and not really showcased. And so as you've seen, is boxing has declined 466 00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:04.480 and ma is take it over because the development of the sport and the openness 467 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.799 of the sport is a lot more open than it is for amateur boxing compared 468 00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:14.960 to amateur MMA. And so you'll you've seen that decline and then you know 469 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:19.920 they're they're ace in the hole for amateur boxing has always been hey, you 470 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.640 can go to the Olympics. Right Well now they're pulling the boxing from the 471 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:30.920 Olympics. And so I was just on the phone last night with the US 472 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:35.200 the president of the USA Boxing, you know, saying hey, man, 473 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.880 I really want the sport to continue. I want you know, invest Ihy 474 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:44.200 do proams, and so we give these amateurs the opportunity to fight, because 475 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.000 some of these guys have one hundred and twenty amateur bouts. Like there's two 476 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:51.119 kids on my show next week they have one hundred and twenty ounts each. 477 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.759 Right in MMA, if you have ten amateur bytes, they're like, why 478 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.960 aren't you pro? Right, So these guys have a lot of opportunities, 479 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.680 a lot of experience, but you take that golden goose, the gold medal 480 00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.679 away from them, right, the opportunity to fight for the only I think 481 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:15.000 that the sport's going to decline even further. And there's not that many shows 482 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.000 for boxing, Like I've been going through all the shows this year actually this 483 00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.280 week to see who's fought this year, so I can pull fighters that are 484 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:28.119 active to fight on my shows. And there's like, you know, two 485 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.679 or three shows a Friday Saturday. You know you're talking about six shows in 486 00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:38.400 the entire US. Well, Matt McGovern's doing it like sixteen of them. 487 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:44.440 So I probably have twenty five percent of the shows in the US for the 488 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:51.880 year, like and that's sad, right, And so that's where these guys. 489 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.519 If you if you have a local event, whether it's my event or 490 00:34:54.559 --> 00:35:00.840 somebody else's. You gotta get out there and splint these guys because they're trying 491 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:02.960 to get to the next level, and there's not a lot of big money 492 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.639 behind these guys. You know, if you have big personalities and you know, 493 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.159 the gold medalists, there's a few people that would get behind you. 494 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:14.599 But other than that, these local fighters, you know, they need your 495 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:19.320 support, and there's not a lot of events like mine where I have fifteen 496 00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:23.760 to twenty local fighters. Because that's what makes these events special. These guys 497 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:29.119 are willing to fight similar skill level guys, so the fights are better. 498 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:35.679 Their selling tickets, they're bringing their families out, and they're sacrificing so they 499 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:42.519 can show showcase themselves for you. And so that's not the you know, 500 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.400 there's a lot that goes into these events. There's one hundred and like eighty 501 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:52.599 people working this show for this weekend, and that's a lot of personalities coming 502 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.440 together to try to put on a show for hopefully three thousand fans. You 503 00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:59.840 know, Okay, Matt Government, thanks to very much. A Saturday night. 504 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.320 Gates will open at five thirty I think, and then fight start at 505 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:07.360 seven. Correct, Yeah, you need a ticket at WFC fights dot com. 506 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:14.159 There's sheet is forty dollars. Okay, super, thank you, Matt, 507 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.000 thank you. So you see you in two soa mcgover all right, 508 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.960 man again a sport that's always been you know, it's had a lot of 509 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:23.360 backing here over the years. Yeah, but we haven't like, as he 510 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.679 said that, we haven't seen enough of him through through the years. It's 511 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:30.199 been great, but then it's been raining and it comes back and then you 512 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:31.239 have flight by Night and people I didn't want to say that, you know, 513 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.760 they just come in and come out, come out. So good luck, 514 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.360 good luck home on everday night. Okay, let's take our break. 515 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:39.480 We're gonna come back. We'll take calls on pretty much anything. Five two 516 00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:43.159 zero, four, one, six, seventy four, forty um. I 517 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.760 want to talk about the Bob Huggins thing because they're West Virginia's come out with 518 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:50.440 a decision on that and let's just talk about what we think of it. 519 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.679 So we'll be right back. If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you 520 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.119 know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now, take a look back 521 00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.199 at the Ludolson era in my new book Listens from Loot. It was a 522 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:02.599 labor of love through the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches and friends 523 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.360 to give insight to the coach and the men who led them, competed against 524 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.679 them, and inspired them. 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I mean 564 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.639 I heard radio app Hey, welcome back to it about here on Fox Sports 565 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:14.920 fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jakins. Os got a guy Jason with 566 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.079 us today. You have about twelve minutes left. If you want to call 567 00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:22.159 us, please do five two four, one, six seventy four forty. 568 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:24.679 You wanted to talk about Huggins. Yeah, first, So you're still not 569 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:29.000 gonna tell me what you did on the game tonight? Oh you Jordy to 570 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:30.920 make your bet? Yeah? I did. H So you bet? I 571 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:37.679 bet um Denver yesterday and I bet the Warriors tonight. So a line or 572 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:44.159 money line for for a few dollars two team party. Uh, I'm not 573 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:46.679 gonna say it's two foot putts because I've been missing two foot puts. So 574 00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:51.400 I did Warriors to win tonight, to win obviously because the Uggs on yesterday. 575 00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:53.920 And you want to get both Nuggets and Warriors into the to the into 576 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.719 the conference final, then they guarantees you're getting the team in two finals. 577 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.639 JA right. I'm surprised Boston stunk it up. They were so bad, 578 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:06.320 both of those bad last night. But yeah, Boston was surprised. You 579 00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:08.559 were awful cool. I don't know what's going on in Boston, Like they've 580 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:14.599 been like just lacklusters luggish, like walking through games kind of like not focused. 581 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:16.639 You know. Yeah, Philly's not bad, but Boston's one of the 582 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:20.440 better teams. Yeah, I mean that they're one of the most talented teams 583 00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.000 lesson postseason. So for them to you know, have so many you know, 584 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:27.079 slip ups during the game, it was very odd. Yeah, it 585 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.360 was hard to watch. Yeah, you know, because I mean, I 586 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:32.719 I don't I mean, I like both teams, right, I like Joel 587 00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:37.079 embiid I you know, but I like the Celtics too, although I didn't 588 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.719 used to. Ye when when the Celtics and Lakers were going at it in 589 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.440 the you know, in the in the eighties and nineties, I was more 590 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.599 of a Lakers fan because I loved Kareema dul Jabbar. It wasn't all that 591 00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:47.880 fond of Magic Johnson, but I did like the other guy. So I 592 00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.440 was more of a Lakers fan than than a than a Celtics fan. But 593 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:57.320 you know, Celtics have like some history when I was growing up, so 594 00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.000 that's why I kind of root for them. They were just they were just 595 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:01.880 awful, and I might turned it off. I stopped watching it. I 596 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:07.199 turned on a date line because you would rather see murder than not only a 597 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.880 murder, but a murder, a murder that I've seen before. Do you 598 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:19.639 know how it ended watching Hi You're on the r and I in the ball. 599 00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:28.719 Yeah, we are not talking Huggy Bear segment. We're talking NBA Make 600 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:34.519 it Be with Steve. I called this three or four days ago when Steve 601 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:40.039 was in Las Vegas, the winner of Denver Phoenix is gonna win it all, 602 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:45.559 which obviously Denver's in the driver's seat. I'm not an idiot, Okay, 603 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:46.559 No, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that because I went 604 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.400 with Denver. Um, what do you like your chances tomorrow? I think 605 00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:53.280 they're gonna be. Okay, No, they're gonna win. And then but 606 00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.920 you, you all, you have Denver winning it all? You you, 607 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:00.119 but you, but knowing you, you bet money on day Van Warriors to 608 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.360 win no championship. No, no, actually I bet Warriors a few months 609 00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.239 ago because just that's because but about four months ago I went with Denver to 610 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:12.400 win the Western Conference had been three and a half to one or what it 611 00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:14.960 was, and then to win it all, I could say eleven to one 612 00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:21.079 whatever it was. So yeah, but your clueless sidekick is talking Eastern Conference, 613 00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:25.159 which has no prayer of winning. Wait wait, clueless sidekick. Oh 614 00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:30.920 wow, I've been no. No, because we because we know he's a 615 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:37.119 kiss of death thing. By the way, real quick, we gotta win 616 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:39.519 and we could still win it. They all here's what I wanted to talk. 617 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:45.119 It's really simple. It's fun. It's it's nicknames. Okay, go 618 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:50.599 can your younger person, because you're gonna need help. Jay won't have a 619 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.920 clue for any of them. Okay, the one I'm gonna go for a 620 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:58.559 hard one. It's a Sacramento guy, Kevin Rater. If he would have 621 00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.639 played better, they would have beat war Ears. I wanted to call it 622 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.719 Kevin know who Huter? He's got it, he's got red hair. Yeah. 623 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.880 And then Donovan Mitchell what is because we know Jay doesn't know it is 624 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.039 nick what's his nickname? Is anyone else what Donovan Mitchell's nickname is? I 625 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:21.599 He's one of the spider top five players in the league, and I've known 626 00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:28.360 his nickname for like two years name Spider Spider. Yeah, he's got it. 627 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:30.039 Yeah, the young kid got it's the Spider. Yeah. Okay, 628 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:36.760 Donovan Mitchell, excuse me, Kevin Werter's red. He was kicking the Sun's 629 00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.719 ass in the regular season. He's got the smoothest jump shot. It's red 630 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:49.920 velvet. Okay, we got to have the old Man, and we got 631 00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:53.280 to speed the game up. The Suns the old Man. And it's the 632 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:59.719 new nickname for Kevin Durant. What is his nickname? The one I just 633 00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:04.239 lo like a month and a half. That's a really scary nickname. And 634 00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.039 it's good. But he but I actually called I said he was he was, 635 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:16.400 he was finished a year ago. I'm slim Reaper. Yes, yeah, 636 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:22.079 we heard that before. So let me ask you, um about the 637 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.039 Suns. Was about the Suns? Um we like their chances? Oh do 638 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:30.840 you would you mind them trading a da or No? But no, he 639 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.480 he's playing. I actually staid it on Facebook. He plays like his little 640 00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.159 boy. Okay, okay, how are we better go? Before you say 641 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:43.239 no, I'm not gonna say he's terrible. We gotta go in away. 642 00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:47.480 We gotta go in How thank you see that? What you know? You 643 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.840 know what? That was a big one? Yeah, okay, mark mark 644 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:54.480 the time on that. I gotta I gotta get that out of the podcast. 645 00:45:55.079 --> 00:46:00.679 Oh my god, we kind of expected for me was gonna be called 646 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.159 so I know, I know he was a little story. He was a 647 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.719 little little wires. When I worked him up a little bit, I wasn't 648 00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.199 gonna say when you wait, wait wait wait, So let's go back my 649 00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:14.400 clueless side check or KOD? Which do you prefer? I prefer to be 650 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.000 the KOD. I'm clueless on a lot of stuff. I mean, I 651 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.599 did, I admit it. Look, I mean, that's part of our 652 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.760 deal here, Steve, Like, we're just a couple of guys. We're 653 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.119 not analysts. We're not you know, we're not. We're not sitting here 654 00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:29.480 pouring through staffs. That's Jason. That's what Jason is here for. That's 655 00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:30.679 what Noah is here for. That's what Devin is here for. That's what 656 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:36.199 d was here for. That's their job. Okay. You know, when 657 00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.559 when I get when when I get a guest co host, I Adam over, 658 00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:43.800 we talk NBA because he knows NBA, right, and so I'm not 659 00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:46.159 We're not those guys. I mean, and that that that's the whole deal. 660 00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.440 We when we started the show, we said we're not going to be 661 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.360 the guys who're gonna break down the Lakers. Lineup for you right, Well, 662 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.639 you marked that time because you gotta go in and do some work. 663 00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:59.280 Yeah, it was like forty eight after the hour. Let's go with the 664 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:04.440 Hugginson because my own Okay, So as as time has gone on and again 665 00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.639 I go to I go to Dan Wilkins. Take we'll try saying what Bob 666 00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.400 Huggins said in the workplace and see what happens to you. You're fired? 667 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.599 Yeah, okay, um. UH West Virginia has now has decided on their 668 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.840 punishment for UH. For Bob Huggins, they're gonna take a million dollars away 669 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.679 from his salary this year. They're gonna put that into UH in LGEBTQ programs 670 00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:30.920 and all that kind of stuff. For he's got to go to sensitivity training. 671 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.760 And he's now on a year to year contract, okay, meaning that 672 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.880 if they fire him, he's done UM, which is all great. And 673 00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:42.199 then they suspended for three games which are gonna be against UM. Let me 674 00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:45.639 find it here. First games. The first three games, so their games 675 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:51.800 against UH, Missouri State, Monmouth, and Jacksonville State, which Pat Fordy 676 00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.159 who wrote a column about this, and I was reading and said, you 677 00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:59.239 know, Gordon g who's the president of West Virginia University could coach those and 678 00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.320 it wouldn't matter. So that's like no punishment whatsoever otherwids. He gets to 679 00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:07.320 take the day off. So um And and the point to the point to 680 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:14.639 pad Fordy's column was at West Virginia University decided that winning basketball games is more 681 00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:21.000 important than you know, having you know, your most prominent uh school official, 682 00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:24.199 you know, utter hate speech on publicly on the radio. Yeah, 683 00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:27.840 okay, and that's more important. Don't disagree with that. I we had 684 00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.079 a lot of that stuff today. Uh, if you're if if he was 685 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.760 a mediocre coach, he would not be gone, be gone. Let me 686 00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.360 say this because I talked to you about this when I returned, and I'll 687 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.719 say this, we got three happiness. If Jayden Delar were the third stree 688 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:45.599 quarterback, what do you think, he's probably gone. It's probably gone. 689 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:49.000 Um. So there are issues over there, those issues over here. Everybody 690 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:52.519 has issues, we all we all have issues. But but that's just the 691 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:54.079 price of winning, man, I mean it is. We've seen it. 692 00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:58.760 We've seen it everywhere. If you're good, they'll find you. Look at 693 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:00.880 the guy, the kid from George Job who got in an accident. Blah 694 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.760 blah blah. Yeah, yeah he got jot to steal in drafted in the 695 00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:08.079 first round. I R. Yeah. If you're good at what you do 696 00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:10.920 and can make millions of what to do, they'll find you a place. 697 00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.119 Unless you really screwed up, right, unless he like killed somebody, well 698 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.360 look at look at oj. He got away with it, right, that's 699 00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:21.800 a whole another thing. You know what I'm saying. I do No, 700 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.360 I don't know what you're saying. And that and that's and that's the point. 701 00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:27.440 So you know, the more as time has gone on, and now 702 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.000 that I see what West Virginia decided to do one, it was so West 703 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:34.800 Virginia. And by that, I mean, you know, the the university 704 00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:39.400 has show this particular university and Gordon g in particular have shown that, you 705 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:45.000 know, the bar is much lower for them than than than for some others. 706 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.480 I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure if Jed Fish said this on our 707 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:54.280 show, he'd lose his job. I don't know. I don't know. 708 00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:59.440 I don't know, because they're how they're handling this other thing is wow, 709 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.400 I know, I don't know. I can't assume that you can think that 710 00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:05.320 I don't know. That's why we haven't really kind, we've dentist around it 711 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.079 because we don't know what We don't know what the right punishment is if there 712 00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.719 is a punishment, and there are some people say, well, Bob Hawkins 713 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:13.119 has done enough good things, and by that, I mean, you know, 714 00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:15.400 he's put out kids who have gone on great careers, and he's coached 715 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:20.519 and he's been a you know, positive influence on so many so many athletes 716 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:24.400 and stuff like that that that should count for something. And maybe it should, 717 00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:29.639 but maybe it should count for the fact that he no longer gets to 718 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:30.840 coach at West Virginia to give him a bunch of money and he goes, 719 00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.119 well, I think that's part of it. Now, now that he took 720 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.320 away a million dollars, he's gonna be seventy next year, that his time 721 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:43.639 is gonna come anywhere exactly, and maybe that exactly and you know, um, 722 00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.400 good luck to to cur Um. You know, he's gonna be out 723 00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:51.960 there. I hope he enjoys his time there under under the coach. But 724 00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.360 stuff happens. Yeah, well, just really quick quickly read and these guys, 725 00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:59.000 you know, this is why these guys are national writers for you know, 726 00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:04.199 sports illustrating whatnot Pat Forties, the second second paragraph to his to his 727 00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.360 column says, then deciding to retain and moderately penalize it's Hall of Fame men's 728 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:13.719 basketball coach in the wake of him Crassley using an now an anti LGBTQ slur 729 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:19.480 on a Cincinnati radio station Monday, WVU made its pecking order clear. Nobody 730 00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.920 else at the university could have gotten away with that casual public spewing of hate 731 00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:27.840 speech and kept their job with relatively minor repercussions, Nor could any politician, 732 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.000 Colberton or other leader in the state. I don't think that's wrong. I 733 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:36.960 don't think that's false. No right, but they've said, okay, this 734 00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:38.199 is you know, this is the level. You know, this is where 735 00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:44.159 we put this position. So that's I don't know that. I will say 736 00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:45.760 I do have some mixed emotions about our mixed feelings about it. I do 737 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.159 think ultimately I believe he should have been fired. I don't know if there's 738 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.480 a from my end, I don't know if there's a right or wrong way 739 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.960 to handle us. They felt that this was right given a year, and 740 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.519 you're a year to year, so you can easily say you're gone at in 741 00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:05.119 the next your time, right, all right, we're top of the hour, 742 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:07.800 let's take let's take our break. Where to come back. Jason's gonna 743 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.079 break your news, right Jason, yep, all kinds of stuff. You're 744 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:14.920 probably took one for you exactly. And then Brian Hall from from the Boulder 745 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.719 Daily Camera will be here to talk about working with coach Priyank. We'll be right back