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Need to get your football fix on
all things Army, Navy, and Air

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Force. This is Yards and Stripes
Service Academy Football. Now here are your

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hosts, Price Atkinson, Steve Carney
and Mike love All. Welcome into Yards

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and Stripes, your home for service
Academy Football. I am Price Atkinson,

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he is Steve Carney, and we
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home for service Academy Football. As
we are part of the College Gridiron Coast

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to Coast podcast network, coming to
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season with a brand new episode.
And Army, Navy, and Air Force.

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That is what we do right here
at Yards and Stripes and Stephen,

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you had games to talk about,
we got even more games this weekend to

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talk about. We got a potential
conference change or conference addition, if you

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will, should I say for Army
possibly leaving its independence status behind mentioned Army

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and Air Force. They hit the
field for the first time the season.

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We've got our Travis Manion Foundation on
a roll segment. We got game balls

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to give out, we got picks
to make. Man, we got a

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lot to do. Brother, how
are you down in the Sunshine State.

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Well, now that you've left Florida. And for those that are just listening,

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here we are a couple of days
later than we normally will drop.

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We normally drop on Tuesday Wednesday time
frame. Here we are, we're taping

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this Thursday afternoon. Price found himself
in Florida over the last weekend. Was

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last last weekend before the kids go
back to school? Or you having a

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good old time down in central Florida
enjoying yourself. But you left and the

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rain showed up. That was the
that's the one thing. Price Price came

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to town and the whole state dried
up, and it was and there was

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no rain. To speak, he
had a great time. We talked on

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the phone a couple of days ago. He was telling how much he enjoyed

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himself and the fact that he didn't
rain. He leaves, the rain came

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back, and here we are.
It is pouring here in Tampa Bay.

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And so hopefully uh this, uh
this keeps the heat down because we've got

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a pretty big college football game coming
up here in about a week and a

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half, which should be fun.
My alma mater, the University of South

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Florida and Alabama going at things.
Uh here a week from Saturday. But

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We've got great games coming up this
week. For the first time here in

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twenty twenty three, all three service
academies are going to play, and we'll

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get to those here in just a
moment. I want to start, though,

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price by talking about just dropping dropping
a little bit about what happened on

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Saturday with Army go to Monroe and
dropping a seventeen thirteen decision. Because this

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is a game that Army had well
in hand until the final six minutes of

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the game. I mean, you
think about it. For fifty four minutes,

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Army had had a two score lead, and with six minutes to go,

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the Warrocks go down and score two
quick touchdowns. They get a sixty

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two yard touchdown run from Hunter Smith, their backup quarterback Hunter Herring throws a

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nine yard touchdown pass to Tyrone Howell
on a corner route with about four minutes

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to play to take the lead.
But for me, the big issue with

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Army is fundamentals, and Jeff Monkin
said this after the game I listened to

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his postgame press conference, said the
team needs to get back to working on

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those fundamentals. My problem is is
that the Black Nights should have been working

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on fundamentals since spring ball, and
they didn't look like they had a good

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grasp after having to work on fundamentals. And you and I know this rule

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number one in college football. You
have to keep the ball in your hands

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and off the ground, which is
something that Army did not do. You

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look at it. They had four
fumbles, they lost three of them.

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They threw two interceptions as well.
They were they were five turnovers. They

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were minus three in the ratio.
That is unacceptable for a Service Academy team

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to be that far behind in the
turnover ratio, especially when you're gonna be

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the smaller team against just about anybody
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Yeah, five turnovers, you know, two of you know, four

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red zone possessions. You get the
ball down inside what five yard line at

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least twice, you get nothing.
Two field goals on four red zone possessions

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is not going to win you a
football game. Then you throw in,

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you know, five turnovers to capitalize
it, including you know, uh,

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you know what one fumble by Bryson
Daily, the new signal caller and quarterback.

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And you got to expect a few
growing pains. You know that,

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you knew that there would be some
growing pains for Army in that first,

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you know, that very first game
with the new offense. You know,

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you can simulate it in practice scrimmages
all you want, but when the lights

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come on, it's just a little
bit different, especially on the road against

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an opponent that's you know, that's
capable, you know. But in addition

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to that, you know, obviously, you know, not scoring an offensive

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touchdown. It was the first time. It's twenty twenty breaking thirty four consecutive

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games that Army has failed to score
an offensive touchdown. But you know,

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you mentioned they still had the lead
midway through the third quarter. The defense

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was trying to win the football game, almost did win the football game all

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by themselves. I think if you're
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in that because your defense one side
of the football. With everything that went

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wrong offensively, the defense still almost
won the game for you. But you

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come up short seventeen to thirteen.
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to me with the new offense,
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it was all about the offense,
right, it was the mistakes, the

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miscues and not taking advantage of field
position, you know. But Jacoby Buchanan,

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Tyson Riley probably the two in terms
of ball carriers, easily the two

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most experienced, maybe the most dangerous
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from injury, but they carried the
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And then Isaiah Alston, I mean
he was targeted on seven of Army's

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twelve pass attempts. He had three
catches in a drop for forty seven yards,

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but one of the ones that was
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other one just flat out didn't get
to him. The ball was not put

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in the hands of a lot of
the playmakers to help take some of the

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pressure of bryceon Daily in his first
game. Yeah, and you look at

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it. Their final four possessions of
the game, when they're up thirteen three,

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what happens they go three and out, they have they have an interception,

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I'm sorry, three and out fumble, interception, fumble. Those are

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their final four possessions of the game, two of which they had the lead.

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And you can't you can't do that
and expect to win ups. Yeah,

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I still I still thought Army was
gonna come back and win. They

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were still in control even though they
gave up that touchdown. You know they

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on a third and ten, you
know, Bryce daily completion that that moved

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the change, got them the first
downs, and then Marshall, you know,

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fumbles the ball trying to you know, get some extra yardage and you

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know you're always trying to get you
know, yak yards, but you can't

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put the ball on the ground.
And you did it. Marshall did it

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twice. Yep, he did it
twice. And you know you just we

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all on this podcast, but it
just bears repeating. When you are usually

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out talented, outsized, out everything
is service academies most of the time,

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always are. You cannot neutralize things
even more by putting the ball on the

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ground and making the mistakes that Army
did, you just can't do. It

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doesn't matter if it's at home,
doesn't matter if it's on the road,

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it doesn't matter when it is.
But you still got to be better.

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Only rushing for one hundred and seventy
two yards only three and a half yards

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per rush. You just got to
be better. And I think this Saturday

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they will be better. The question, though, Stephen, do you think

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this is going to be a long
term problem for Army this season. Are

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they going to be looking for another
guy at quarterback at Bryson Daly, has

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you know, another Game War two
like he did this weekend this past weekend.

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Or is this just a blip on
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Getting that new offense installed with truth
Thatcher coming in and then daily obviously

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taking those snaps. Now, Yeah, I think that's gonna be the big

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question that's gonna have to be answered
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when you're going up against one FCS
team like they are, and we'll get

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to that matchup here in a few
moments, but I think that this is

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going to be the biggest question for
the at least the first half of Army

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season is what sort of changes are
they going to have to make? How

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much tweaking are they going to have
to do to this offense in order to

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make it fit their personnel, because
obviously you're not going to go into the

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transfer portal and get guys to come
to Army. That doesn't happen. You

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have to win with what brought you
to the dance, and you have to

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make the scheme fit the personnel and
not the other way around. Every other

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team outside of the service academies can
make the personnel fit the scheme. Army,

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Navy, and Air Force are not
able to do that, So you

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have to make the scheme fifth the
personnel. How much flexibility Wilm Army have

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in making the scheme fit the personnel, we will find out. I don't

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think we're gonna have a lot more
questions answered as they're they're going to welcome

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Dell State, a Delaware State to
the Hornets to Mikey Stadium on Saturday at

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twelve nude. We'll get into that
game. We'll give you our picks here

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in a little bit, Stephen,
Let's turn the page and talk about the

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Falcons, because they hit the field
for the first time get a forty two

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to seven dominant win over Robert Morris, the sixteenth straight opening win, third

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longest streak in the country. Now
for the Falcons behind Alabama in Ohio State.

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They led it. They led twenty
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went as expected. This game went
a lot like I think Saturday will go

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for Army against Dell State. Nonetheless, you've got to go out there and

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play it. Air Force did and
they played it to the tune of a

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dominant win where basically anybody in uniform
played and contributed in the win, with

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thirteen guys carrying the football, led
by Zach Larrier, who getting his first

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start under center. Much like Bryson
Daily for Army, Zach Larrier the starting

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quarterback. He leads the way for
the the Falcons two or three passing eighty

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four yards team highs fourteen carries ninety
nine yards in two touchdown how to how

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to Eric pitch? You know,
credited with a fumble on that pitch,

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but still pretty much did anything and
everything you asked him to do in his

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first start. Steve, Yeah,
and this was the game. As we

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mentioned, they got everybody in on
offense. We'll we'll talk about that here

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because I'm sure that that's going to
be a point that one of us is

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going to bring up when it comes
to delivering our game balls for the week.

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But I look at you mentioned twenty
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forty two nothing early in the fourth
order, and you could see Troy Calhoun

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and company going, all right,
I think I think we're gonna be good

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at this point, and I think
a six touchdown lead, they're not going

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to come back. With the with
twelve minutes to go and score six and

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score six touchdowns. I think we
can kind of back the dogs off a

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little bit, and they certainly I
think they did that at that point,

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and Robert Morris was able to get
the final score of the game with ten

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minutes to go, and then it
became a game of which teams punter could

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could get could get going. Uh, you know, back the guys back

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up further. I really think that
for Air Force this was a wonderful demonstration

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of what their offense is going to
look like this year when it is running

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on all cylinders. When you get
to the Mountain West Conference schedule, you're

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not going to have everything running on
fulls on every cylinder. So it's nice

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for the Falcons fans and for the
Air Force faithful to be able to see

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this and go, that's the sort
of game that we know that the Falcons

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can put up and and that gives
them a point to shoot for in every

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game going forward. How did we
look anything like we did against Robert Morris?

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And if they came close, especially
against better quality opponents, they can

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say, Okay, we're staying in
the right direction. We've got momentum still

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going on our side, and if
they can go all right, that didn't

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work, that didn't work, that
didn't look like it did against Robert Morris.

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Those are the things that they know, the coaching staff and the players

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will know that they need to get
fixed during the next week of practice.

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Yeah, no doubt about it.
But you know it's the right way you

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want to get going. You start
with that big win, you're gonna have

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to get better and you're gonna have
to be a lot better. I think,

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Steve, we're gonna talk about a
little bit later because there they Air

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Force Falcons are going to be traveling
down to Texas yet again, and this

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time they're going to be facing the
team in their first, well first season

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playing FBS football, but their second
game as an FBS member of Conference USA,

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and that's sam Houston State, and
that is going to be no pushover

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of an opponent. A technically what
will be I guess a neutral sight game.

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But we'll talk about Air Force in
sam Houston State here in a little

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bit, Steve, let's give out
some game balls because we got some more

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games to preview. We got a
Travisman and Foundation on a roll segment we

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got to talk about possible conference realignment
coming to the service cavities. But before

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we do that, which way do
you want to go with your game ball?

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Lets you fire first this week?
Well, for me, my game

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ball is definitely going to go to
the Big Uglies. For the Falcons,

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the offensive line was absolutely fantastic for
air Force. I'm gonna give you the

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first three, four, five,
six, seven, eight of their nine

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of their nine series that went when
they went down, touchdown, touchdown.

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Okay, they turned the ball over
on downs on a fourth down play,

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touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, and then the end of

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the game. So they were fantastic
in making sure that the ball kept going

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in the correct direction on the field. And so I'm going to give a

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game ball to the entire offensive line
at air Force. Yeah, I'm gonna

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keep it in that same vein Stephen, because I'm gonna go with the running

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back corps led by Zach larry Or
making his first career start, but he

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was one of thirteen players, including
four quarterbacks, in the game for Air

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Force to carry the football. Thirteen
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was capable of taking a handoff or
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game behind that offensive line. But
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he led the way of those running
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carries again ninety nine yards in two
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they will now get ready to take
on Sam Houston State the Bearcats down in

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Stripes continues here once again our price. Steve and Mike. All right,

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we got three games this weekend.
We're gonna tell you about all three here

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in just a second. Is we
are Yards and Stripes. You're home for

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Service Academy Football, Army, Navy, and Air Force. That's what we

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do. I'm Bryce Atkinson, he
is Stephen Clarney, and all three teams

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are going to be in action this
weekend. They are going to be in

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action all on the CBS Sports Network, a triple header of Service Academy football.

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And ironically, all three teams that
the Academies are playing are going to

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be first time opponents. And we
will start at Mikey Stadium where Army will

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have their home opener at twelve noon
on the CBS Sports Network against oh and

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one Delaware State again the home opener
for the Black Nights, the first ever

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meeting between Army and Dell State as
the Hornets. They lost their opener last

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week, and Steve, I think
this one could get way out of hand

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way quickly. But the Hornets losing
to D two Bowie State last weekend twenty

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two to twelve. Last year,
they weren't that bad. They went five

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and six in the MEAC. Not
a horrible conference to play your college football

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in, and to get five wins, you know it's solid. But when

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you lose the D two Bowie State
out of the gate, something cannot be

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right. I know they have a
first year coach, Lee Hull, who

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I think played at holy Cross,
but nonetheless, the Hornets will be coming

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into Mikey and visiting the Hudson for
the very first time twelve noon. I

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have not seen a line in this
game. I don't think we will,

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Steve, because it being a FCS
opponent. Yep, you're absolutely right,

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no line in this game for being
FBS versus FCS, And you're right about

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Lee Hall went to holy Cross very
nice was a wide receiver in the Canadian

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Football League for three seasons. So
you know, he is all about throwing

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the football down the field, and
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do that. They lost, uh, not only two Division two Bowie State

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last week, but they lost at
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first game in the in the Lee
Hull regime. But uh, this one,

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this one is going to be very
interesting. This is their bowl game.

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You know, Delaware State is not
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of top, top quality. Uh. I think they have one other FBS

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game this year, and that's against
Richmond. I think Richmond is a is

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an FBS team. Now they may
they may still be an FCS team,

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but those are basically their two biggest
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three. So this is basically their
bowl game. You know, hey,

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you're gonna get an opportunity to go
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You're gonna get a chance to go
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most beautiful venues in all of college
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play a team that is known for
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and a smart offense. And I
really do think that this is going

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to be eye opening for the Hornets
players, and I think that's a good

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thing for them. It's gonna give
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And I'm not calling, uh,
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to Alabama or to Clemson, or
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But this is an FBS team that
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up against and and try and compare
themselves and see where the bar is at

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top echelon college football. It'll be
it'll be a fun it'll be a fun

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experience for everybody involved. I think, yeah, it definitely will. And

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I think, you know, certainly
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you've got to be concerned about your
opponent, and I know Jeff Monkin

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said, you know, we just
don't have a lot to go on although

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they played you know, Bowie State, you know, we don't have any

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kind of common opponents or anything.
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so you don't know one hundred percent
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think the onus for Monken, like
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is going to be more about us, you know, cleaning up the

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mistakes, playing turnover free football,
you know, doing the little things that

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you have to do it in an
academy. And I think still ironing out

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this new offense that drew Thatcher is
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shotgun while it is you know,
still heavy on the run and the option.

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You know, you've just got to
iron things out, and I think

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this is a perfect opponent to do
it. But you want to keep those

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mistakes at an absolute minimum to get
some momentum, you know, going into

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your next game. You want to
get the taste of victory. That's first

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and foremost, but you want to
play mistake free football. And I think

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that's what it's going to come down
to for Army on Saturday, is these

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two oh and one teams again meeting
up at Mikey Stadium on CBS Sports Network,

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twelve noon kickoff Eastern Standard on Saturday, all right, second game of

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the tripleheader on the CBS Sports Network, Steve the Naval Academy. They had

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the week off, certainly after traveling
to Dublin. They kind of licked the

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wounds a little bit, but they
get on the back on the practice field

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and they get to iron some things
out as they're going to be welcoming Wagner.

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Also a first time opponent out of
the Northeast Conference. Wagner oh and

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one of course Navy oh and one
as well, this one kicking off at

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three thirty at Navy Marine Corps Memorial
Stadium, the home opener for the Mids,

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who are giving thirteen and a half
points in this game over under I

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believe at thirty seven for this game
Saturday, Navy looking to win its first

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home opener Steve for the first time. So it's two thou nineteen when they

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defeated holy Cross. They've lost since
twenty nineteen. They have lost their last

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three home openers. Get this by
a combined score of one hundred eighteen to

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seventeen. So you're looking to get
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the opponent to do it. Yeah. If there's a team that Brian Newberry

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needs to bounce back against, it's
certainly Wagner. Now, this isn't Robert

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Wagner, this isn't Jack Wagner,
this isn't Honness Wagner. It's the Wagner

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Seahawks, and they are the Robert
Morris of Navy's schedule, and you look

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at them. They were one in
ten last year in FCS and lost last

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week by thirty points to Fordham in
New York, just outside of New York

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City. And of course Fordham is
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players. I looked it up.
Do you know how many players right now

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are in the NFL from from Fordham
University. I'll give you, I'll give

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you a gues I'll give you a
guess. It's less than five. It's

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actually three. And the only three
NFL players that have come out of Fordham

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since nineteen fifty five. John Skelton
the quarterback, uh it went to Fordham.

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Chase Edmonds, the running back,
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the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So that's
how I know. Uh, Chase Edmonds

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went to went to Fordham, and
they have a tackle, uh that is

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in the NFL. But those are
the only three Fordham Rams that are in

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the NFL since nineteen fifty five.
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Uh. But uh, this team, this team is really really in

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a bad in a bad way,
and I think this is perfect for Brian

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Newberry and to get everything fixed and
kind of like how Air Force did with

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Robert Morris. You use this Wagner
game to go we should have We should

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be running on all cylinders here against
this team. We should be they should

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be sending them back back home,
licking their wounds and going what we just

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run into. Yeah, yeah,
no doubt about it. You want to

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go out there and take care of
business on Saturday, and do it in

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a big way again, you know, playing mistake free football, but getting

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out there and getting the win to
give your team confidence against a team that

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you should theoretically just you really should
take control from the very first snap.

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Whether you're on defense or offense,
it really doesn't matter. You need to

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seize control from the very beginning.
A note from Navy Sports information Director Scott

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strassmayern this week's game notes. Wagner's
Special teams coordinator or linebackers coach Jim Munson

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very familiar with the Naval Academy program
because his son James, was a two

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thousand graduate of the academy and played
football for three years at Navy under former

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head coach Kidney Amountalolo before serving as
a student coach his final season and he

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is now serving in the United States
Marine Corps. So one of the coaching

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staff, certainly you know there at
Wagner knows a little thing or two about

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Service Academy football, having a child
that played there in the program and the

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very you know, you know recently. So it'll be interesting to see,

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you know, how Navy comes out, especially what maybe new wrinkles. We

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might see what they worked on.
I think it'll be pretty apparent Steve pretty

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early on what Navy worked on when
we see them take the field of having

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that extra week off on Saturday.
Yeah, I don't I don't want to

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see any wrinkles. I want to
see things ironed out here. Yeah,

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there should be no wrinkles. It's
like it's like their uniforms, no wrinkles

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in the uniforms. Everything's going to
be ironed out. Creases have to be

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sharp. This has to be a
sharp, creased offense here against Wagner,

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and if it's not, I think
that Midshipment fans need to be disappointed in

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them. Again. Theyvey hosting Wagner
three thirty on Saturday the CBS Sports Network

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three thirty kickoff there at Navy Marine
Corps Memorial State all right, final game

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of the weekend, air Force hitting
the road. They are heading to sam

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Houston State air Force one. And
oh, of course Sam Houston State lost

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their opener last weekend fourteen nothing to
BYU in their first game as an FBS

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opponent. This game is going to
kick off at eight pm Eastern Standard Time

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on Saturday night in NRG Stadium in
Houston on the CBS Sports Network. That's

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about eighty miles from the sam Houston
State campus. But what, Steve,

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what do you see last air Force
giving thirteen and a half over under thirty

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seven for this game? I believe, Yeah, it's it's just under two

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touchdowns for the Falcons and a thirty
seven over under. And here's here's how

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big this game is for Sam Houston. I went online and looked, and

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they're running bus service from Huntsville,
which you mentioned is about an hour and

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a half away down to NRG Stadium
for thirty bucks apiece. So they they

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certainly want all of their they want
all of the students down in Houston for

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this game. And obviously you're playing
it at the home of the Houston Texans,

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so I would expect this crowd to
be quite boisterous. I would expect

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it to be quite an interesting,
uh dynamic there because you're playing you know,

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Bowers Stadium, which is where sam
Houston State plays. You know,

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they they only fit. It's one
of the it's a tiny stadium, like

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I want to say, it's like
fourteen thousand people. It's basically it's it's

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a glorified high school type stadium.
Bleachers on two sides. You're going and

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you're playing it in NFL stadium for
this game. Uh, this is this

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is another one that's gonna be eye
opening for their players because congratulations, you're

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you're in the FBS. You're in
Conference USA. Now Bearcats Bearcats with the

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K by the way, which I
can't like, but uh, you know,

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congrat ulations, you're in the FBS. You still haven't scored a point

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as an FBS team though, so
getting shut out by BYU, I think

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I think that there's a there's a
very good chance that Air Force also shuts

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them out, and so they may
be going into week three of their of

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their season still looking for point number
one as a top tier college football program.

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Well, this is going to be
the Air Force Academy's third straight trip

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to Texas in the last three seasons, and Air Force head coach Troy Calhoun.

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This will be his first time back
in Energy Stadium since serving as offensive

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coordinator for the Houston Texans in two
thousand and six. But Mitchen, this

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is the first ever meeting between the
two schools, and you know, Sam

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Houston State they have been one of
the they you know, prior to coming

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over and making the move to the
FBS and in Conference USA, they were

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one of the elite teams you know, in the FCS prior to this transition,

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winning the FCS National chant. I
think they were the only team not

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named North Dakota State to win an
FCS national championship in like the last eight

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years or something like that. But
Casey Keeler, you know, it's got

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a team built on you know,
transfers and strategic redshirts for this first FBS

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season, including a couple of you
know, quarterbacks that played at the at

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the higher level. Grant Gunnal from
North Texas after starting his career at Arizona

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and then Xavier Ward who makes the
move over to sam Houston State from Washington

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State. But it wasn't either one
of those guys under center last weekend.

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It was Keegan Shoemaker who went eighteen
to thirty three with three interceptions against BYU.

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We will see what they can do, but Steve is we'll make our

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picks here in a little bit.
This is the first of a home and

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home series because sam Houston State will
make the return trip in twenty twenty five

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to air Force. This is going
to be a game that could very well

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be dominated by defense and low scoring. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if

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you see another fourteen nothing game.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna make that

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prediction, but I think you're absolutely
right. This is a This is gonna

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be a defensive heavy game. This
is going to be It's gonna be very

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important for the Air Force defensive backfield
to come through because obviously sam Houston State

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loves to throw the football down the
field, as evidence by three interceptions thrown

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by Keegan Shoemaker last week against BYU. They're going They're not that's not gonna

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deter the Bearcats from throwing the football
down the field. They're gonna continue to

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do that. They're gonna continue to
apply pressure, especially against a team like

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Air Force that the defensive backs that
for the most part, they're a little

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smaller than you would normally see in
an FBS team, and so you're gonna

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you're gonna say, Okay, I'm
gonna pick on them, even though I

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think that the defensive backs are going
to be up to the challenge. You're

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not gonna stop doing what you believe
you do best just because you're going up

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against a team with a really good
defense. Yeah. Once again, eight

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pm Eastern Standard time, kickoff between
Air Force and SAM Houston State. They're

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in Houston at NRG Stadium, first
ever meeting between these two teams on the

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CBS Sports Network. All Right,
we got more to do here. We

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got the Travis Manion Foundation Honorable Segment
coming up. We've got some picks to

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make and could Army be on the
move? Maybe? Might they be joining

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a conference for the first time since
two thousand and four. We'll talk about

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coming up here on this episode of
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Academy Football when we continue. In
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Travis Mannion was killed in Iraq after
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we're going to remember Army Sergeant Kenneth
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seventh, two thousand nines, from
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his unit in Afghanistan using small arms
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two thousand nine. Kenneth Westbrook was
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August the thirteenth, to his parents, Ruth and Sergeant first Class Marshal Westbrook.

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the delayed entry program in August in
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nineteen eighty seventy, officially became a
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anti armor weapons infantryman. On November
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Day, Kenneth deployed to Afghanistan with
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to the Military Transition Team from Port
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played a critical role by acting as
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ANDA, the Afghian National Army.
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to mentor the A and A soldiers
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who was a Vietnam veteran and served
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He wanted to make his dad proud
and prove to the world that he was

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going to make something of himself.
Quote. He once asked me and confided,

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if I should not come home,
don't forget about me. I made

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a promise to never forget him.
Quote that was from his wife, Charlene

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Westbrook. Kenneth service and sacrifice were
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expedition to Gallop, New Mexico.
He's survived by his wife Charlene, his

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parents, Marshall and Ruth. And
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sacrifice of those like Kenneth Westbrook and
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many others who have given that ultimate
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and remembering communities across the country.
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like Kenneth Westbrook than nine to eleven
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involved with the Travis Mannion Foundation online
at Travismanion dot org. As I continue

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here with Stephen Carney, I'm Pryce
Atkinson. We got some picks to make

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Steve, but before we do that
for our three games ahead this weekend report

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what I think it was over the
weekend, but Pete Famle from ESPN dot

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com was the first to break the
news that I saw. But Army could

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they be on the move. Reportedly
the Army Black Nights are the top choice

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to replace SMU in the American Athletic
Conference. Now, Army has been independent

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in football since it left Conference USA
and after seven seasons there, that last

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season coming in two thousand and four. But the report that Army could be

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the very next team in that fourteenth
team to replace SMU as a football only

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playing member in the AAC Appalachian States
another team that's being talked about. But

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I think an interesting caveat really quickly
as you say, well, boy,

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Navy and Army would be you know, that would work wonders because they'd be

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in the same conference as conference opponents. Well, reportedly, Army and Navy

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would not play the annual Army Navy
game as conference opponents. They would still

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play it as the very last regular
season game of the college football season before

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bowl games start, but they would
it would not be a conference game.

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So what would that mean, Well, that would mean that Army and Navy

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could technically play in the conference championship
game of the American Athletic Conference and then

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the next week they could play a
non conference game, the Army Navy Game,

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which would be crazy. It would
be interesting. Will it happen?

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Who knows? Will Army even join
the American Athletic We will see, but

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momentum is being reported that the Army. There's mutual interests. Let's just say

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on both sides of Army becoming the
next addition to the American Athletic Conference.

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Stephen, Yeah, not only is
Army the top choice, but by many

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reports, they may be the only
choice because while Appalachian State is another team

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that is being that has been mentioned, the folks at the American Athletic Conference

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to have only had talks with one
school and that's Army. So obviously they

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want Army to join the join the
AAC. And I would love to see

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Army join the AC. I think
they would be good for the Black Knights

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to get a higher caliber of opponents
and having that conference schedule, I think

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it's going to be a big plus. Uh. Let's face it, the

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American Athletic Conference has taken a step
back because a lot of the teams that

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were the upper tier of the American
have left for greener pastures. We saw

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Houston and UCF and the likes leave
for the Big twelve. Obviously, now

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SMU leaves to go to the ACC
to join Calan Stanford as the three teams

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that are going to join that conference
coming up here starting next year and bringing

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Army in is you know, I
wish Army was able to come in with

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the full high level American Athletic Conference
because, let's face it, if you

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look at the outside of what is
now going to end up being the Power

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four, because the PAC twelve is
dead. Uh, you know, God

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bless the PAC twelve, but it
gave its life to have four power conferences.

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So outside of the Power four,
I would venture to say that the

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strongest of that next tier of college
football is probably the Sun Belt because you

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know, having Coastal Carolina and Troy
and South Alabama, those are really really

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good young programs that are on their
way up, and unfortunately for the American

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a lot of a lot of the
teams in their conference right now seem to

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be foundering. I mean, I
work for one here in Tampa that looks

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like it's going to be on the
on the right it's on the right track

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now with Alex Golesh running South Florida. But you know, getting Rice and

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unc Charlotte and FAU to replace UCF
and Houston, you know that it's it's

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not it's not a fair comparison,
and so I like, I would like

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to see Army come in and bring
the level of college football and the level

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of competition in the American UH to
get better. But I think the big

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stumbling point is what happens if the
scenario that you mentioned happens. What happens

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if Army and Navy play in the
American Athletic Conference championship game and then the

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next week they got to play each
other in Philadelphia in the Army Navy game?

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And what does that mean for conference
schedules because now you're gonna have one

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fewer conference game that Army and Navy
are gonna be able to play because it

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can't play each other in conference play. So it's it's just it's just very

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weird. It's very strange. There
are a lot of hurdles and stumbling blocks

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that I that I see going forward
that something's gonna have to be worked out

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if if Army really does want to
join the American Athletic Conference. Well,

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it's interesting that you know, talking
about joining the American because to me,

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it looks a lot like not with
the same teams, but it feels like

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what Conference USA was. You know, many years ago when they left.

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You know, some of the you
know, similar schools of the same kind

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00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,719
of ilk, you know, if
you will, so what's different? You

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know, why go back into a
league if you're you know, enjoying independent

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status and the control that comes with
that. You know, I think some

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of it, it you know,
stems from it, certainly with the changing

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landscape of college you know, conference
realignment and everything. What are bowl tie

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00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:57,000
in's gonna look you know, look
like. But you know, Army has

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always faced this, you know,
potential of being weazed out of a bowl

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game. You know when it happened
what I believe it was last year when

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you know, you finished five hundred. Uh you know, certainly winning the

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Army Navy game to get ball eligible. That doesn't help you that late in

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the game. But still you can't
find a home where you know, when

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you're an independent, you basically got
a lot of ways hope that all the

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bowlslots aren't filled and then you know, you know, a bowl can come

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calling. But you know, I
think that the squeeze out factor of what

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can happen in that situation has become
real and the kind of money that you

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miss out on because you know,
you need now in the light blood.

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Yeah, they're propped up by the
federal government, but also the kind of

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money that you need, you know, coming from you know that the conference

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can help deliver you, you know, to you know, help a recruiting

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budget and do the things that you
need to do with all your other sports

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because you know Army. I'll just
let you go to their website and go

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check out how many varsity sports they
have. There are a lot that they

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have, so I think that money
would certainly help. I think the other

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thing that helps is the fact that
they are currently independ and I think that

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reduces many complications you have right there
from being a current member of a conference

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going to another conference. So you
know, as you're sitting as an independent,

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you can make that move pretty quickly
if you want to, say for

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the twenty and twenty four you know
season to the AC. The question the

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00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:29,199
question becomes for Army do you are
you looking for the best quality conference play

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that you can get, because if
you can, you're probably looking. I

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would be looking to be joined to
join the Sunbelt if anything, just because

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I think the quality of the conference
opponents that you would get are going to

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be much better in that conference than
it is right now in the American Athletic

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Conference. Could that change? Sure? I think I think it certainly could

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00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:57,320
change. But right now, are
you willing to wait it out in what

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is probably maybe the second best uh
conference? Uh? And out of that

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00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,119
group of group of five or a
group of six? Now, yeah,

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you know, I obviously I think
it's better than what Conference USA looks like?

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Is it? You know? I
mean obviously they're not going to the

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00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:20,039
Mountain West geographically. Uh. But
you know, you look at some of

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00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:24,000
the some of the you know,
the the Metro or you know some of

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00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:29,360
some of those some of those smaller
conferences that you know like Miamia, Ohio

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00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,599
is in and stuff, and and
you know the MAC. You know,

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do you want to do you want
to play in the MAC? Do you

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00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,320
want maction? Uh? I think
that that's gonna be. That's gonna be

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the big question for Army is you
know, are they going to be satisfied

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with the level of conference opponent that
they're going to get in American? Yes,

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Navy is Navy is gonna be great, But you're gonna play Navy in

611
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:57,559
every year? Anyway? Yeah?
I think so much as you just don't

612
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want to get left out. You
don't want to get squeezed out, which

613
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,159
is you know you're right about that, you got you almost want to be

614
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,360
pre emptive if anything, you know, to make sure that you're not left

615
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,760
behind, because you know, I
you know, call it what you will,

616
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,159
you know, Oregon and in Washington
to the Big Ten. That was

617
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:20,039
I think more of a panic move
than anything. Especially you can say it

618
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,400
was on you know, the school's
party and the league's part. I think

619
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,679
it was a panic move. You
know that you you know, certainly you

620
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,960
don't want to get left behind if
you're those two schools and then you see

621
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,039
the Big Ten, because then your
cal then you're callin Stanford having to go

622
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:37,559
to the ACC right exactly, or
your Oregon State and Washington State that are

623
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:40,519
going to get stuck in the Mountain
West YEP. I think that would be

624
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:45,039
beneficial for Army to join the American
Athletic Conference because yes, you would you

625
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:50,000
know, seed control of your schedule, which in a lot of ways,

626
00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:53,000
that's why Army has been able to, you know, kind of rise back

627
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:57,880
up to the top of Service Academy
football at least for a while, is

628
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,320
by playing some of these opponents that
you and go in and just beat on

629
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:04,559
and then sprinkle it in with some
you know, you know, buy games

630
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:08,039
if you will tough opponents that they
you know, it's been a confidence building

631
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:12,599
process and it hasn't just been the
schedule. I think Jeff Mounkin has been

632
00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:15,000
the perfect guy to go and turn
it around. Don't get me wrong,

633
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:19,800
but I think that that could be
something that uh you can lean on and

634
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,000
make the argument why it would be
a good idea. But long term,

635
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:27,480
I think it would be beneficial to
army more to join the American than to

636
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,679
continue sitting it out, so to
speak, as an independent. Steve.

637
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:34,880
Yeah, the only question, the
only the only problem that that I see

638
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,079
is if you're if you join the
American Athletic Conference in your army, you're

639
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,840
not going to get to go to
LSU. You know, you're not getting

640
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,320
those games. And and obviously,
you know, we talk when we talked

641
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:52,159
to Jeff Mounkin last year in the
in the middle of last season about this

642
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,719
this very possibility, you know,
you and I talked with him about,

643
00:48:57,079 --> 00:49:00,119
Hey, you know, is there
thought about maybe uh, you know,

644
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:06,920
relinquishing independent status and joining a conference
to try and help with your schedule,

645
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,000
uh, you know, having a
conference schedule instead of having to try and

646
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:15,679
piece together opponents. And he said, we're going to LSU this next year

647
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,639
or which is now this year.
You know they've got they've got some really

648
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,679
big opponents that they already have on
the schedule over the next two or three

649
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:31,440
seasons that if they join a conference, that the conference is gonna have to

650
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:37,320
work around those. Yeah. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

651
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,719
But his reports are that nothing in
terms of a decision is imminent,

652
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,360
So we will see. It'll be
something, certainly, without a doubt.

653
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,800
We will be keeping our eye on
here at Yards and Stripes and will continue

654
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,360
probably talking about it as we move
forward through the season, and we will

655
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,360
certainly let you know if and when
there is news to pass along. All

656
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,880
right, Steve, let's get to
some picks before we get out the door.

657
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,239
Here are three games this weekend.
I guess let's go ahead, and

658
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,239
let's just start at the top,
triple header on the CBS Sports Network,

659
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,599
Army Navy going first and then second, and then Air Force capping off the

660
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:19,280
evening against Sam Houston State first,
Delaware State at Army What I mean forty

661
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,239
five to three. I don't know
what the score is gonna be. It's

662
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,480
gonna be a lot to a little. Yeah, you're right, it's this

663
00:50:25,679 --> 00:50:29,639
is going to be forty two seven. This is this is Air Force Robert

664
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:32,000
Morris all over again. I think
the Hornets are going to try and throw

665
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:37,199
the football. Lee Hall is known
for his coaching of wide receivers. He

666
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:43,039
was a wide receiver, was a
wide receivers coach at some pretty big programs

667
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:47,400
like Maryland and Oregon, went and
coached wide receivers in the NFL. So

668
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:53,000
obviously he knows receivers and he knows
how to throw the football down the field.

669
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,039
The problem is going to be that
Delaware State is going up against a

670
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,360
much better caliber of an opponent.
Uh then they would in the MEAK or

671
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:07,320
in some of these other teams.
Uh, you know this is this isn't

672
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,960
Bowie State who you lost to at
home. You're going on the road to

673
00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:15,119
Army. Uh yeah, I would
say this is this is forty two nothing,

674
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,320
This is forty forty two three,
forty five three. Yeah, it's

675
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:23,239
this is Army all the way,
absolutely all right. Waggner in the Naval

676
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:28,840
Academy three thirty kickoff there on the
CBS Starts Sports Network OH and one bow

677
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,079
teams looking for their first wins of
the season. I think this is going

678
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:35,840
to be a whole lot like that
first game, a lot to a little

679
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,159
in favor of the Naval Academy.
What say you, Stephen, Yeah,

680
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,760
this is this is going to be
another bludgeoning. Uh that that I that

681
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,599
I think they're gonna have to They're
gonna have to call this Bloody Saturday because

682
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:52,119
these first two games are going to
be blood baths, and I think that,

683
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:55,239
you know, the Seahawks are are
in big trouble. I think the

684
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:02,559
Midshipman get the first win for Brian
Newberry and the entire core of midshipman that

685
00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:07,840
are going to be there supporting this
supporting that team at Navy Marine Corps Memorial

686
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,360
Stadium. It's gonna be loud,
it's gonna be raucous, and they're gonna

687
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:15,280
love life at the end of that
game. All right, let's get to

688
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:20,719
the most interesting game of the weekend. That's Air Force one to oh traveling

689
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,079
to Texas. They're going to be
taken on Sam Houston State OH and One

690
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,159
at NRG Stadium, home of the
Houston Texans about an hour and a half

691
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,719
from the Sam Houston State Campus CBS
Store Sports Network, kicking off at eight

692
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:37,960
pm. Air Force going for the
seventh straight win dating back to last year,

693
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:40,320
and this is going to be their
first road I guess technically road game,

694
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,119
neutral site game for sure of twenty
twenty three in their first ever meeting

695
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:51,000
as these two are going to match
up. You know, Sam Houston State

696
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:57,199
fourteen zero loser last week against BYU
and their first ever FBS game. You

697
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,239
know, the defense held the Cougars
only two touchdowns and two hundred fifty seven

698
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,159
toty yards, But their offense is
gonna have to get going after they just

699
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,840
werelling able to muster up one eighty
five. Certainly they did not find themselves,

700
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,639
say a way onto the scoreboard.
I think this one's gonna be a

701
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,320
really low scoring Steve. You know, air Force is favored by just under

702
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,159
two touchdowns. I'm thinking this one's
gonna be somewhere in the neighborhood of like

703
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,599
a twenty to thirteen, maybe a
twenty four sixteen, something kind of like

704
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:30,159
that. In favor of the Falots. I agree with you completely. I

705
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,400
think this is going to be a
defensive slug fat This is gonna be a

706
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:42,239
slog to put it, you know, as bluntly as I can. There's

707
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,679
gonna be a lot of folks coming
down from Huntsville, Texas to Houston.

708
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,960
There's gonna be a lot of Air
Force faithful that are definitely in that area

709
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:52,679
that are gonna want to go to
NRG Stadium to watch this game. Sam

710
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:58,719
Houston, I thought equated themselves well
against by U. I mean that game

711
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,639
was in provo, so it's not
like it's not like they were at home

712
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:07,519
to start this. They went to
BYU and held the Cougars to just two

713
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:10,760
touchdowns. It's too bad they couldn't
get a score on the board and kind

714
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,239
of make things a little more tense, uh for BYU. But I think

715
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,159
this that you're absolutely right, this
is going to be twenty to six,

716
00:54:21,679 --> 00:54:25,000
twenty to ten, twenty three to
ten. I I really do think that

717
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:30,440
if if I'm going to do anything
with this game, and the line that

718
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:36,880
under thirty seven certainly looks pretty tempting
to me, I could certainly see this

719
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,360
one going like I said, twenty
to three, uh and or twenty to

720
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,960
six and and go that route and
maybe they maybe Sam Houston State gets a

721
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:51,320
couple of field goals, but I
think Air Force does enough to make sure

722
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:52,760
that they're two and oh. I
don't know if they cover for sure,

723
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:58,159
but that I think that under thirty
seven is pretty safe. Yeah, I

724
00:54:58,199 --> 00:55:00,440
think the defense is going to be
the store and that being the Air Force

725
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,440
defense. I think it's going to
be too much. Bow teams certainly going

726
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,119
to try and run the football,
but I think it's going to be Air

727
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:09,239
Force. It's going to be able
to do it better, especially with the

728
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,480
defense being stronger. So we will
see on Saturday as all three Service Academy

729
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:17,320
teams in action, we are certainly
picking. As you just heard, we

730
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,639
are going with a sweep, a
clean sweep, Stephen and going with Army,

731
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,239
Navy, and Air Force all to
win on Saturday. But we will

732
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,719
do it again next week. Here
on Yards and Stripes, your home for

733
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,000
Service Academy football, as we are
part of the College Gridiron Coast to Coast

734
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:38,119
podcast Network, an array of different
podcasts you can listen to all season long.

735
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:40,960
In addition to us at Yards and
Stripes, we got Florida Football,

736
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:47,960
we got many different theme college football
podcasts to keep you business. Absolutely let

737
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:51,840
me, let me, let me
give a let me give a plug.

738
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,119
We got a brand new podcast that's
going to start this week that's going to

739
00:55:57,159 --> 00:56:00,280
feature Notre Dame called The Eyes on
the Irish that gets started this week.

740
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:06,039
Our Big twelve Breakdown podcast is going
again. We'll have Get Off My Pylon

741
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:12,719
here coming up, I believe before
the weekend as well. So there's plenty

742
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,320
of college football going on right now. And of course ourselves, Florida Football

743
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:22,559
Insiders and Big Ten Paradigm should be
getting started here here in the next day

744
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:25,199
or two as well. So plenty
of college football. If you're a college

745
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,039
football fan, you want to keep
it to the college gridiron Coast to Coast

746
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:32,079
podcast network, no doubt, Stephen, no doubt, well said my man.

747
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:37,079
All right, folks, until next
week, enjoy the games. We

748
00:56:37,199 --> 00:56:40,119
will see you early next week to
talk about what transpires over this coming weekend

749
00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:43,800
and gets you ready for another big
weekend. But until then, enjoy the

750
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,039
games. We will see you next
week. Join us again next time for

751
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:52,719
Yards and Stripes Service Academy Football.
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752
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:58,519
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753
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