WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.480 Welcome to it Broncos Country tonight, but with Albright, Nick Ferguson, Grant 2 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:06.400 Smith five six six nine. Here, you guys want to get involved in 3 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:09.839 the conversation. You're gonna have Brandick Crystal live from the owner's meetings down there 4 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:12.640 in Orlando. Here just a little bit, Cody, Warrick and join us 5 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:16.839 in the next hour. Nick, how you doing. I'm doing well, 6 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:19.440 man. How about yourself? I'm doing pretty good. I was just for 7 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:23.280 everybody who can't tell Nick is at the remote studio, he's Uh, he's 8 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:25.960 in the Ferguson Dome for those who didn't know the Ferguson Cave. Maybe I 9 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:29.399 don't know is it? Is it a cave? Is a dome? Uh? 10 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:33.280 It would be more of a cave than a dome, because a dome 11 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:38.280 would mean as though there is some kind of oval shape overhead, and I 12 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:41.439 don't think that's the case. Mister Albright. Oh spake shu. I don't 13 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:45.320 know what kind of fancy layer you have over there at super supervillain headquarters or 14 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:49.679 superhero headquarters, whatever it may be. So wait, you're supposed to be 15 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:53.799 the super villain. I tried to slide that by you real quick too. 16 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:58.000 I just you know, super super whatever. It's fun. We had had 17 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:00.079 an interesting weekend thus far in the in the world of sports, you know, 18 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:04.439 tany presser today. Obviously we had Sean Payton's comments this morning, which 19 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:07.480 kind of have people a bit into tizzy. We want to get through, 20 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:11.159 uh through some of that stuff as well. We've had some rule changes in 21 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:15.000 the NFL. It definitely want to get your thoughts on the hip drop tackle 22 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:19.159 stuff. See you buff men's fall to Marquette despite putting up a fight in 23 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:23.040 the second half there, but the women advanced weet sixteen for the see you 24 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.319 lady buffs. Uh, that's gonna be uh, gonna be a lot of 25 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.000 fun there. And obviously we'll have the I think are we having the game 26 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:32.599 on? Can't we? Great? I'm not sure, it'll depend on what 27 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:34.640 when it lines up with the Rocky schedule. Okay, all right, well 28 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.920 check back. We'll get you in day for them on Thursday. Right. 29 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:40.439 So that's what I was gonna say. I didn't know. I know we 30 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.400 had the opening day stuff, but I didn't know if it was early enough. 31 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:44.040 I didn't know the schedule in that. So we're going to chance to 32 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.680 get to all that. But let's uh, you know, let's start from 33 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:51.519 from the top, the the oldest meetings down there. We get we get 34 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:55.439 some rule changes coming in the the challenge now you don't have to get two 35 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:57.840 correct, you just have to get one challenge correct, and then you get 36 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.719 the bonus third challenge. And I think that's a good I think that's a 37 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.560 good addition. I don't think that's one that I'm too concerned about. But 38 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.879 the hip drop tackle thing is the one that's got social media pretty wound up, 39 00:02:07.919 --> 00:02:13.759 as the NFL votes unanimously the band hip drop tackle the swivel hip drop 40 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:16.719 tackle. But Rich McKay came out and kind of clarified a little bit later 41 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.240 that they don't want this to be as much of an in game thing as 42 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:24.599 much as it is something that they are going to find players for during the 43 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:27.680 week. Basically, go back and look at the tape and find players. 44 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:30.039 I know how you feel about that, Nick, but why don't I get 45 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:32.439 your thoughts on this rule change first of all, and then we can kind 46 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:37.360 of get into some of the minutia. Well. I don't like the room 47 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:42.080 chain, to be frankly honest, because in my time, we never had 48 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:45.599 the hip drop tackle. We've never really had that. And Roy Willmas used 49 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:51.319 to play safety for the Dallas Cowboys infamous lead gave us the horse collar tackle 50 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:53.840 because the majority of the time he was in trail position and he had the 51 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.039 pool guys down from the back. And for me, for years, I've 52 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:05.319 always felt this when I retired, that tackling was something that most teams didn't 53 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:07.840 spend a lot of time on. And then my time as a coach, 54 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:13.520 that was one of my emphasis with San Francisco, trying to teach guys like 55 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.639 Dj Reed, who now plays corner for the New York Jets, the proper 56 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:21.680 techniques and was required as far as tackling. And I don't know how do 57 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:27.599 you play defense in this league anymore when it just seems as though the rules 58 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:31.159 keep changing. And we've seen the competition Committee get together every single year and 59 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:36.479 there was always a rule that's being changed to benefit some of the offense. 60 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.680 And I know this last season and over the past couple of seasons we've watched 61 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:46.400 Ben the number of scoring opportunities actually dwindle. So for me, this is 62 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:51.280 a way for the league to increase that and get back get those numbers backed 63 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.840 up to what they were years ago when Jared Golf was playing for the Rams 64 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:58.560 and he's playing against Patrick Mahomes on Monday Night Football and they put up a 65 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.400 seat note as far as points is are concerned, but I really don't like 66 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:05.800 this. I don't like it at all. Why don't you like it specifically? 67 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:11.039 Well, the reason I don't like it is because when you look at 68 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:15.439 the emphasis, the emphasis is on tackle and are tackling and it is basically 69 00:04:15.480 --> 00:04:21.040 shaped around the idea and the concept of player safety and where's the player's safety 70 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:26.560 when it pertains to this, Because we've seen running backs and tight ends and 71 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:30.120 receivers getting bigger, stronger, faster, So what are defenders are supposed to 72 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.600 do? There's no way to defend themselves. It's almost like you want to 73 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:39.519 create this this hashtag that I tossed out there, like defenseless defender and we've 74 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:45.199 never heard that before, because how are you wanting guys to tackle guys from 75 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.519 an angle? Guys who are one or two yards in front of him? 76 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.639 And once again, Ben, are we going to break this down to the 77 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:56.439 realm of saying what's the runner gets outside the pocket and he gets down the 78 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:59.560 field, the rules are going to be judge or the players are going to 79 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:03.279 be judged differently tackling guys out in space and out in the field opposed to 80 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:06.959 behind the line of scremers. Because you've seen so many games just like I've 81 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:12.600 seen where you have Aaron Donald, who's an excellent running chase guy, pulled 82 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:17.560 offensive players down from behind. So how is it as official you're going to 83 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:21.079 police this? Are you going to stop the game every single play? And 84 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:26.519 or or I think you mentioned that Richard McKay said they're going to do this 85 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:31.560 after the fact. And as a player that's been fined in this league five 86 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:38.920 thousand dollars twice for socks for me, how how are guys in the PA 87 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.519 gonna deal with this? Knowing as though guys are getting FedEx packages in the 88 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.720 mail, where guys are being deducted large sums of money. I mean, 89 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.480 I don't like it. Well, and the idea, I mean, physics 90 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:53.959 is going to cause some of these types of tackles, right, Like, 91 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:57.680 I understand if you're deliberately grabbing somebody from behind and chopping at the knees, 92 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.160 I get that. But if you're if you're trying to make a legitimate tackle 93 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:04.160 and your body gets rolled because the physics of the situation swings your momentum that 94 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:08.120 way, and they're really going to find you for that. I mean, 95 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:12.279 it just feels like this is another excuse to find players. It doesn't feel 96 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:15.560 like that this solves anything. I understand what they're trying to get at with 97 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:17.399 the injury portion of it. I get the intent, but this doesn't feel 98 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.160 like it's in it. And it feels like in a game that is already 99 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:25.879 probably over officiated, we're adding something else for the officials to watch rather than 100 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:30.720 the things they need to be looking for. Absolutely, because when we look 101 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:36.800 at fines for more players, and that number is going to continue to escalate, 102 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.240 and now you have to try to go get your money back from the 103 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.360 league. And as a guy that been in that situation, nine times out 104 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.120 of ten, they don't give it back. Then they give you a portion 105 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:48.399 of it back, but not a lot. Think about what we watched last 106 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:55.279 year last year in Denver, watching Kareem Jackson play and he was fined time 107 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:58.480 after time after time till it got to a point where he was out on 108 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:00.519 the field and he was like ten almost like he wasn't even out there he 109 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:04.480 couldn't even be the physical presence that he once was. But I'll tell you 110 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:09.000 this, Ben, there is a solution to this problem that the league did 111 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:13.480 not or has not explored. And what that is is that you have the 112 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:16.079 technology. Like like you the six million dollar man, We have the technology. 113 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:23.040 And what that comes down to is using instant replay right, allowing coaches 114 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:28.399 more time out so if they need to challenge or challenge opportunities to challenge these 115 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:30.519 players to say, well, was that a bona fide penalty or not? 116 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:35.079 Because the players are didn't defined after the fact. But we're talking about advancing 117 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:41.639 the ball for the offense. And we watched last year certain quarterbacks I shall 118 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:47.240 not call their name that that had that Academy Award winning acting as far as 119 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:50.600 the drama of saying that, oh look what happened to me? And we're 120 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:54.920 going to see more guys do that, and it's going to turn into what 121 00:07:54.959 --> 00:08:00.560 we're seeing in soccer and what we're seeing with in the NBA as far as 122 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:03.519 flopping is concerned, and to me, that's going to hurt the game. 123 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.560 Yeah, I'm this was one thing that I'm like, Okay, I understand 124 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:09.560 the intent, but this has got to be better thought out, and it 125 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:11.720 just doesn't appear to be well thought out to me. Like I said, 126 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:15.920 it appears to be something that's a cash grab from players, and at the 127 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.759 end of the day, is something that is going to cause officiating crews that 128 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:24.800 are already over officiating to inject themselves more subjectively into games where we want less 129 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.120 of that, Especially if you're like me and you'd like to put a wager 130 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:31.879 on it. The last thing you want is some gonna flag tackle that is 131 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:37.200 a subjective judgment cole at the end deciding an outcome exactly. And once again, 132 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.360 the league is all about protecting the integrity of the shield. That's why 133 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.559 we've seen them clamp down oh Kevin Ridley and other guys for gambling outside of 134 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.360 the league rules. So if you say that you want to protect the integrity 135 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.279 of the game, once again, how do you police this right? How 136 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.720 do you police this somewhat in games, but more importantly as coaches? How 137 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:03.759 do you coach through this part of the game. Because we know at some 138 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.519 point a guy is gonna break away from me, how do you track him 139 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.720 down from behind and make a secure tackle? And I know the whole idea 140 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.399 in the league is low man wins. So for me, if I'm a 141 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:18.240 player in this league and I'm thinking low man wins, and they're telling me 142 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.200 what I can't do, restricting me from making tackles and doing my job, 143 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.559 now, guess what I got to hit you in your knee. And I 144 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:31.639 can tell you right now there's not a single skilled player that would tell you, 145 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.039 hey, this go ahead and just kind of ruin my career and take 146 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.960 my knee out. They would tell you, hey, look, hit me 147 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:41.399 up upper body, even if that means in my head, but please do 148 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.240 not hit me below my knees. But if I am playing and I'm coaching, 149 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.159 where's the strike zone? You tell me, Ben, where's the strike 150 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:54.759 zone? Yeah? I again, anything that adds subjectivity to sports, that 151 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:01.600 adds to officiating and subjectivity, something I'm going to be opposed to, something 152 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.360 I'm going to be against. I want. You know, we're still sitting 153 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:07.879 out here wondering what to catch it is. You know it does catch it, 154 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.960 dude. You know it's still one of those things where I'm like, 155 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:16.039 man, like you know, anything that we're adding that it causes anything to 156 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:20.519 be subjective. I'm inherently going to be against and this. I'm all for 157 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.039 player safety, but this doesn't feel like it necessarily made anything any safer. 158 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.799 It just means that, oh, they're either going to flag this during the 159 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.720 games and or find people during the week, and I mean, that's nobody's 160 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:35.080 gonna want that. Well, here's what the league has decided to give the 161 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.639 public. Right you're saying that people are still crying about the fact that the 162 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:43.639 game is still physical. This is where they're changing the kickoff rules and we're 163 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:50.480 seeing rules after rules change in lou or in the de vein of player safety. 164 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:52.919 If you want to do that, if you really want to do that, 165 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.840 there are multiple ways. Because we already know that this is a physical 166 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:00.759 game and you can get bumps and bruises. What you can do is actually 167 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:07.240 make sure players have better healthcare after they finished retiring. That that's one way 168 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:11.120 to make sure that you handled the situation. But the other way that you 169 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:13.960 can make sure that you are protecting the players. Why we're trying to increase 170 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.759 games. Why are we're trying to increase regular season games. You can't increase 171 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.480 the regular season game and tell me that you're trying to protect players. And 172 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.320 then once again, you're protecting the offensive players. What about what about us 173 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:30.840 on the defensive side? Then what about us? Well, you know, 174 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.360 on the defensive side. The loan concession, I guess, is that they 175 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.759 did not change the fumble through the end zone for a touchback rule, which 176 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.720 again I maybe I'm the loan supporter of, but I still think that's a 177 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:43.320 good rule. The end zone has special rules, and if you fumble it 178 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.639 through the end zone, you shouldn't be rewarded for fumbling it through the end 179 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:52.279 zone. So I guess that's that. You guys, get what, But 180 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:54.879 that's not that's not helping me and protecting me as far as you know, 181 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.080 health and well business is concerned. No, it's not. Well, think 182 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:03.039 about this, Benjamin al Bright. You're playing corner and the team that you're 183 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.919 playing against in the Baltimore Ravens, here comes Derrick Henry and guess oh, 184 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:09.879 by the way, they just pulled the guard too. Now you got those 185 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.600 two behemoth that that you're trying to slow down and stop. Tell me how 186 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:18.960 you do that? Yeah, I don't. I don't have an answer for 187 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.840 that. And that's that's part of the thing. I think there are I 188 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:24.080 think there are holes in the way that we officiate the game. I do 189 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.919 understand, and I hate the way that the Competition Committee phrased it a while 190 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.279 back when they talked about, well, we'd like to see scoring at a 191 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.559 certain point. Well, no, that should not be your That should not 192 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:37.399 be your Your goal shouldn't be to see a certain amount of points per game. 193 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.519 That should not be your goal. Your goal should be to make the 194 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:46.000 game as good as it can be. And the idea that relegating or changing 195 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:50.879 things to tilt the game and artificially inflate scoring is not a positive. I 196 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.679 don't agree with you know, I don't agree with that. I you know, 197 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.799 if if defenses have come up with ways to prevent scoring, it's incumbent 198 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.480 on the the offense to adjust that, not the league rules committee to give 199 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.919 him a free pass. Once again, I know this league, this league 200 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:11.080 is always about being reactive, not proactive. And I know they want more 201 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:15.799 butts in the seats and you can't. You can only get that by scoring 202 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.039 in bunches. And I totally understand. No one wants to see a nine 203 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.279 to three game other than Nick Ferguson, right, I'm the only person that 204 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:26.320 wants to see that type of game. But this is their way of dealing 205 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:33.919 with that particular situation and trying to enhance and expand the brand itself based on 206 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.679 the number of points that are scored. And then also think about this from 207 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:41.679 from this standpoint too. I know you kind of make your your daily wages, 208 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.000 but that is something that they factored in as well, because when we 209 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:50.240 look at fantasy sports, right, your guy kissed some cousins, we know 210 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.840 he can. He can wreck up the stats on the stats sheet except for 211 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.200 the except for those in a way column. But that is going to increase 212 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:01.240 the revenue that's coming in from fantasy and that's what they want. Well, 213 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:03.360 right, absolutely, And you know what we need to do as a poll, 214 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.480 which one is the bigger fantasy scammer, Kirk Cousins or Justin Fields. 215 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:09.120 Neither one of them get wins, all of them wrapping up fantasy points. 216 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.120 So if you want to sure, maybe maybe if we'll let the five six, 217 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:13.960 six, nine zero, we'll let the text line answer that we was 218 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.480 speaking of. The text line seven to two Oho says he got JJ McCarthy 219 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.799 going second overall at plus seventy five hundred. Last month, the same sports 220 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.799 book had at plus five fifty today. Now, I have not heard that 221 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.960 the Commanders were now JJ McCarthy, but that was a popular topic this morning, 222 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.840 as Tom Pelisaro said that he'd heard that a little bit around the owner's 223 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.279 meetings when talking about the Insiders show with Ian Rappaport and Mike Garifolo, I 224 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:37.879 believe Weisch was on it. Well, when they're talking about that point, 225 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.360 that's not the person I've heard associated with the commanders. But if they do, 226 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.679 if they did pivot to that, they do pull the trigger on that. 227 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.600 First of all, you'd have yourself a great bet there, one hundred 228 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:50.720 dollars winning you seventy five hundred dollars. Second of all, how do we 229 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.000 feel about that? JJ McCarthy was a guy talked about back in January as 230 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:56.600 the league being a lot higher on than fans were. I go laughed at 231 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.480 at the time. Now the guy's a top four lock. Well, things 232 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:03.879 have changed over the past couple of weeks, and they will change leading up 233 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.559 to the first round on April twenty fifth, because we're going to have some 234 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:11.360 guys fall, some guys are going to rise because of that, and it's 235 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:16.519 all doing part to the level of narratives that are being pushed out there. 236 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:20.360 This coach, coach Harbaugh. I mean, he speaks candidly and highly of 237 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:24.840 JJ McCarthy, as he should as a guy that helped him win a Natty. 238 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:28.240 But when we really look at JJ McCarthy, we have to say, 239 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.919 okay, well when we look when we look at Washington, does he really 240 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.720 fit there? What kind of quarterback is he? Now? I'm not high 241 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.720 on McCarthy and I'm not low on him. He's one of those guys that 242 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:41.720 are right there in between because you don't know what he's going to be. 243 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:46.000 But that's based on what you put around him. And when we can say 244 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.960 that about any particular quarterback, but this is the time of the year, 245 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.080 especially being at those owners meetings, where a lot of conversations start to come 246 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:58.919 up. But I'm not believing that because if you're high on the guy, 247 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.279 think about it, man, if you wanted to select a particular guy, 248 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:06.279 are you gonna tell someone else who wants that same guy? No, you're 249 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.159 not gonna do it. Just like dating. I'm not gonna tell Vinjamin R. 250 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.960 Bright. I'm taking out Peggy Sewer over there in the corner. I'm 251 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:18.440 gonna go talk to Peggy Sue myself. Yeah, I mean it's in their 252 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:22.200 best interests to drum that up, especially if they know somebody might be trading 253 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:25.600 up for that. As a matter of fact, speaking of your report, 254 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:29.200 he asked Sean Payton about trading up whether that was feasable and J. J. 255 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:32.960 McCarthy the assumption from honest it was that quarterbacks don't want two three in 256 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:36.399 the travel. You guys would have a long way to go potentially if you 257 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:40.600 wanted to come up. How realistic is you guys being a trade up team 258 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:45.480 and how strong? I think that's realistic. I think it's realistic. I 259 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.919 know your reports suggested otherwise, but it's realistic. No, it did. 260 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:56.080 I would. I think it's realistic. What's what's hard to predict, though, 261 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:02.759 is like what's on the receiving end. You know, I think it's 262 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:11.400 good to be Monty today at Arizona, right, So it's hard to it's 263 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:18.599 hard to predict what that cost is. And yet I certainly wouldn't say it's 264 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:26.920 unrealistic in we'll pay close attention to it. Yeah, I mean, Sean 265 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:32.039 didn't need to be rude to Ian Rappaport, which she kind of was there. 266 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:33.079 He was also rude to be ka by the way, I'll join us 267 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.160 just on the other side here in a minute. But you know, I 268 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:42.039 realistic is carrying a lot of water here, because I'm not sure how realistic 269 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:45.519 it is to get up to four. If he's saying it's possible, okay, 270 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:48.640 I mean, if you want to play some ANIX games, is it 271 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:52.240 possible, Yes, it is possible for the Denver Broncos to trade to four. 272 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.880 Is it probable? Not really? And I think if you are the 273 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:00.640 Broncos and you want them to trade up there, you're only Sinnara is hoping 274 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.519 that Minnesota trades to three with New England, so there's no competition for that 275 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.480 fourth quarterback. Well, for me, it seems as though coach was talking 276 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.200 out both sides of his neck, because you said he booked in his statement 277 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:15.079 saying that it's realistic. But in between that, there's something that I paid 278 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.680 close attention to. He said, it's hard to predict what's on the receiving 279 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.680 end and what's going to cost. Right. Look, we all want to 280 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:26.400 do a lot of things, but sometimes it's not realistic. You know what, 281 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:30.119 I want to fly to the moon, but guess what I don't have 282 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.279 a rocket ship, right, So we look at the Broncos. They want 283 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:37.480 to take a rocket ship and Pops possibly move up and get JJ McCarthy or 284 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:41.359 whomever Sean Payton is identifying. But the truth is that you can't really get 285 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:45.799 up there. And then what you're what are you sacrificing to get up there? 286 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:49.720 Because it's not about what Sean Payton wants, what Broncos Country wants the 287 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:52.680 team to do. It's like, can you get up there? Because when 288 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:57.400 you look at Arizona and all those teams who're sitting between one and six, 289 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:02.960 it's whatever they what, whatever they asked for. You have to be willing 290 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:04.720 to deliver to them. If you cannot, then you have to stay at 291 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:07.880 pat where you are, which you and I talked about so many times on 292 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:11.599 the show. Just say, man, Bumpet, move back, get some 293 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:15.160 picks and try to be competitive this year. Yeah, I think I'm with 294 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.720 you. And they will have plenty more time to discuss that and kind of 295 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:21.960 break it down and what else Sean Payton said down there at the owner's meetings 296 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:25.160 when Bredick Cristal joins us. Next is the Broncos Country and I here on 297 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:30.079 KOA. It's eight fifty am to ninety four ONEFM News Talk Sports. Welcome 298 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.079 back to it, Broncos Country Tonight. Benjamin ol Brighten, Nick Ferguson, 299 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:36.279 Grant Smith here with you. We're gonna go out to the Kwait Cummspil Hotline 300 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:40.599 to bring on Breddick Cristal live from down there. At the owners meetings, 301 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:44.720 BKA got a chance to talk to Sean Payton this morning's interesting stuff. Out 302 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:45.880 of that, I felt like Sean Payton might have been a little of a 303 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:49.160 little bit of a grouchy mood with some of his responses. What say you 304 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:53.720 b kay? Yeah? And I think it's just because Sean unless he's on 305 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:57.480 the Competition Committee, which he was for a number of years and helped trying 306 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:04.640 to get the rules change regarding pass interference that certainly affected the outcome of his 307 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:08.480 team's game in the NFC Title Game a few years back, obviously, unless 308 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:11.039 he's in that role, it doesn't seem like I think last year he was 309 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:14.720 okay being here because he had a year off, but I don't think he 310 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.319 wants to be here. In fact, George Payton even mentioned that because Sean 311 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:22.319 said yeah, George and I'll talk about players today. And then George told 312 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.279 us that Sean and he'll sit in the back of the well, sit in 313 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:29.920 the room while they're in these coach GM meetings together, and the owners are 314 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:33.079 in another set of meetings, and they'll be looking at players. So then 315 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:34.680 I asked George like I followed up with him, and I said, how 316 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:38.759 do you execute that without making sure your thirty one counterparts aren't just wandering by 317 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:41.000 to see what's up on your screen? And he said, we sit in 318 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:45.839 the back of the room. So that's how they're trying to maximize their time 319 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:48.880 because they'd rather be at pro day's. And I imagine that we'll see George 320 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.319 at Drake May's pro day at Carolina, we'll see him at Jade Daniels pro 321 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:56.480 day. And just like Sean told us today that they put JJ McCarthy through 322 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.720 the paces on a private workout the day after his prod and gave them a 323 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:04.319 bunch of stuff the night before at five o'clock that it was too much info 324 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:10.839 to to truly memorize and digest completely. They do that on purpose, and 325 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:12.279 so you got to think they'll do that for May and Daniels too. If 326 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:17.079 given the opportunity, but that that's what they want to be doing right now 327 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:19.599 is getting ready for the draft. They've got their big draft meeting Tuesday, 328 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:23.640 when I think they're gonna set their board, and so being here in a 329 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:27.000 year with kind of a nine owners meetings right Other than the hip drop tackle 330 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:30.359 thing and the kickoff, there's not really much more. There's I guess cal 331 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:34.440 McNair getting full control of the team that his family already owns and getting all 332 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:41.759 the shares. But beyond that, it's it's pretty quiet because it's quite interesting 333 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:45.759 question because the annual photo that they take with all the coaches. I saw 334 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:48.799 that photo and there were certain things that I I that stood out to me. 335 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:52.920 First and foremost, there were a number of coaches that come from the 336 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.839 Mike Shanahan tree. But there was something else that someone pointed out to me 337 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:00.880 that that really stuck out was in that ooto there was no Sean Payton. 338 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:06.839 Have you heard as to why that Sean Payton wasn't in that annual photo. 339 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:10.519 Sean was actually asked about that, I want to say, by our guy 340 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:12.200 Mike Cliss and said, hey, why weren't you there? And he goes, 341 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:15.640 well, have you seen our right itinerary and he's like, have you 342 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:18.480 seen it? He goes it said it was today. They decided to do 343 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.039 it yesterday, so I think there were only twenty seven coaches, which means 344 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:23.759 five were missing. I want to say maybe it was Mike Tomlin not in 345 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:26.960 it. I didn't memorize who was and wasn't in it. Sean McVay, 346 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:30.480 Kyle Shanahan, were they both? And I don't know, but I know 347 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:34.119 that I counted it twice and I counted twenty seven. Soe Sean made it 348 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.519 sound like it wasn't his fault that he wasn't in the photo, although I 349 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.079 know he was here because I saw him yesterday. I took the earliest flight 350 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:44.960 I could, trying to avoid the snow, which I did successfully. But 351 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.039 Sean was in attendance in the building. But if he didn't know that it 352 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.279 was going on, then I blame the organizers. And he also brought up 353 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:53.480 a point He's like, what do they do with these pictures anyway? Because 354 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:56.079 before social media and they've been doing it since before they would get out on 355 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:59.880 Twitter and Instagram. I mean, do they have a yearbook somewhere that we 356 00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:03.079 just don't know about so he didn't seem to mind not being there. Bill 357 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:07.000 Belichick famously was skip it all the time. Yeah, they do. They 358 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.599 put that up every year. I don't know, you know what else they 359 00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:12.160 do with it as far as that goes. But I think you said twenty 360 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:15.200 seven. I count of twenty eight. Maybe a double count of somebody, 361 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.039 you know. In terms of the things that are going on down on there. 362 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:22.599 The big news today felt like the rules changed about the hip drop tackle. 363 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:26.359 What was the skuttle butt down there about that is we heard it was 364 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:30.720 a universal or unanimous vote to get rid of it. Yeah, and that's 365 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:36.720 just because the owners understand the player's safety component. And he had another rule, 366 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:38.920 and I'm sure Nick has plenty of opinions about this, but designed to 367 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:42.279 help the offense, right, Nick, you had to deal with bigger backs 368 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.920 and big tight ends, and you want to get him down however you could. 369 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.559 You weren't really worried about tackling Jerome Bettis a certain way. You just 370 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:51.640 wanted to make sure Jerome Betts was down right, and so if that meant 371 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:53.400 having to use your body weight to roll them and get him down, you 372 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.799 did. And so you've seen plenty of just over the last you know, 373 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:03.480 week, ten days, plenty of dee, the players moaning about what this 374 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:07.599 rule change would end up looking like. And it was already supposed to be 375 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.440 a penalty, but it's hard in real time to legislate, and so it'll 376 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.480 be interesting to see what the unintended consequences are or are you gonna end up 377 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.079 kicking guys out of a games? You're gonna kick really good players out of 378 00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:18.839 games that make a big stop, or will that lead to you know, 379 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.440 a first down where it looks like a big stop is made on a fourth 380 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.279 and one in the backfield and the ref determines that that you're using a hip 381 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:32.559 drop tackle. So I understand why the owners will vote unanimously on rules changes. 382 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:37.039 And apparently they're pushing for the kickoff rule to change too, And is 383 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.160 that just spurned by the league and by Rich McKay wanting to make a modification 384 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.160 to add kickoffs back into the game, because then you also have injuries that 385 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.960 are gonna yield. You know, that's the most dangerous playing football, and 386 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:52.640 the statistics backed it up, but now you've completely taken it away. You're 387 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.000 saying, oh, well, we want some kick returns, So I'll be 388 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:56.960 interested to see if they end up voting on it and passing it tomorrow what 389 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:02.359 that ends up looking like, because no one's going to show any tricky formations 390 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:04.480 or pooch kicks in the regular I mean in the preseason, so we won't 391 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:11.000 know till the regular season starts. So the Broncos didn't make any moves and 392 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:14.480 free agency as it pertains to the most important position that we've been talking about 393 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.240 for a while, at the quarterback position. So it just seem as though 394 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:21.960 Janucci instead of all the quarterbacks currently on the roster. And we don't know 395 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:25.599 what the Broncos are going to do as far as which quarterback they're going to 396 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:30.160 select in the draft, But what did you come away with as far as 397 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:37.279 how Sean Payton an organization feels about Jared Stidham. They're certainly wanting to promote 398 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.720 the idea that he could be a starter and win games. And Sean talked 399 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.920 about that today, that those last two games weren't a fair representation of what 400 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:49.079 they think of Jared and that they value him and that's why they went out 401 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:53.440 and got him and gave him ten million dollars over two years. Despite having 402 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:59.880 minimal results in his random starts in New England and those last couple starts with 403 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:03.480 the Raiders a couple of years back. And so I don't know if that's 404 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:06.160 just preparing fans for Hey, if we don't get the quarterback we like, 405 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.240 or we don't really fall in love with one of these guys, it's gonna 406 00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:11.680 be Jared Stidham. And there's still a handful of you know, veteran names 407 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:14.720 out there, right Ryan, Tannehill, Jimmy g at the top of the 408 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:18.720 list, and it's gonna be those guys in Ben de Nucci battling it out, 409 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.640 but get ready for it and if it goes well, awesome, and 410 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.640 if it doesn't, then maybe they're in the Shadur Sanders sweepstakes. But I 411 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.519 think that they're trying to because you've seen some of the national folks right. 412 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.759 Ian mentioned it the other day, and we've seen other you know, I 413 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.640 talk to people of the combine. Jeremy Fowler was talking about Stidham and Diana 414 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:40.519 Rossini. You know you were standing right there, Ben when I asked her 415 00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.119 how do you fix quarterback situations? She's like, Jared stilldam is better than 416 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:47.200 people think. And so I understand that they're helping push that narrative out there. 417 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:49.440 It'd be great if it's true. It just feels to me to this 418 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:55.000 point until proven otherwise, Jared Stidham is the next Chase Daniel and if he 419 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:56.240 can be better than that, if he ends up being the guy, even 420 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.680 for a year, great, If not, then can you get shor whoever 421 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.440 the top QB prospect is next year. Well, one thing that I've said, 422 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.119 and I've been critical of Sean Payton, and I think to the point 423 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:08.680 where people think I'm a hater, and I don't hate him, I'm just 424 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.640 you know, being critical. I think this. I think that if Sean 425 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:17.799 Payton were to turn Jared still a mentally of viable starting quarterback, and by 426 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:22.240 viable I mean able to bring an offense that is playoff contention worthy, that 427 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.079 would be the point in his legacy where all of a sudden it would volt 428 00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:26.640 him to the Hall of Fame because you did it. You know, you 429 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:30.039 were there with Drew Brees, but everybody feels that you got carried by breeze. 430 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:32.400 If you do it with Jared Stidham, that's that's a whole different world 431 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:34.720 versus you know, people who say that there's not going to be any optimism 432 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.319 for this football team if they don't go get the rookie quarterback. Am I 433 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.400 am? I just out to lunch here? Or well, no, I 434 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.799 think that. And I was having this conversation with some folks related to the 435 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.960 Broncos about the draft, and if they can't get that quarterback and they're sitting 436 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:52.200 there at twelve, then Joe Alt's available, or what's the kid's name, 437 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.680 Yeah, Joel, Right, he's John's kid. Joe Allt's available, Brock 438 00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.839 Powers is available. A guy that's going to help you for a bunch of 439 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.079 years as a perennial Pro Bowl type. And so I fired back with old 440 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.039 Joe Thomas was awesome for ten years? How many Super Bowls did he get 441 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.559 to? Or or JJ Watt three Defensive Players of the Year, how close 442 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.200 did he get to a Super bol or Khalil Mack and and so it's not 443 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.400 that awesome. Players aren't awesome, right, even Aaron Donald all those years 444 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.119 before Matt Stafford got there. I said he'd get to a Super Bowl with 445 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.799 Jared Goff. But I guess the other side of it because he said, 446 00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:23.759 oh, look how the Niners are built, right, and look how close 447 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:29.279 they've gotten with Jimmy g with Rock Purty now, And maybe that's what we 448 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.279 have to ask yourself. If Sean Payton's going to play callers, Kyle Shanahan 449 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:33.839 is and Brooks, plenty of people that think he's right in that in that 450 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:38.039 same category, so some might have him higher. Can you turn Jared Stead 451 00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:41.160 him into Brock Purty if you've got enough pieces around him? And look, 452 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.799 they don't have Christian McCaffrey on this roster or Adebo Samuel. For as much 453 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.240 as you like Marvin Mims and they wear the same number, they're not the 454 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.559 same player. And even Brandon Ayuk, you know, are he and Courtland 455 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.640 something the same? They're obviously similar in size, but you know, not 456 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:57.240 the same player. So the point being, so if you had a Rock 457 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:03.000 Bowers that mix and you whatever, can Jared steadm be be Rock Party? 458 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.799 That'd be awesome? Right? That means that they're winning ten, eleven, 459 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.039 twelve games. But it's one of those I'm gonna I'll believe it when I 460 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:11.400 see it. You know, I went to Kansas, not Missouri, but 461 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.079 you're gonna have to show me that. But I do think, yes, 462 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.680 it would be a feather in his cap if you can get to the playoffs, 463 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.000 sad and even say Stidham, is you know a pro bowler this year? 464 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:22.400 Right? Like his numbers are good enough, even if they're about what 465 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.039 Russes were last year. If Sidnam puts up the same numbers as russ last 466 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:27.680 year, he'll likely have a shot at being a pro bowler next year, 467 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:32.000 right he can. We appreciate the time. Keep it eye in the ground 468 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.440 out there for us in Orlando and we'll check it with you later in the 469 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.079 week. All right, sounds great, Thanks guy persolutely Fredick Cristal live from 470 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.039 the owner's meetings down there in Orlando's jump out to the KAA common spirit traffic 471 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:45.759 center checking with David Bryant. Can you turn Jared steadhim into rock party? 472 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:52.880 Relative to his vision, it's kind of exactly where we saw it a year 473 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.440 ago. We felt like this is a player who can compete. We felt 474 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:02.119 like he's got upside, a young player that's really played a limited amount of 475 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:06.200 snaps relative to the years he's been in the league. Did anything change in 476 00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:11.680 those last two games leading to this season? I can't say, in fairness 477 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:17.200 to him or the process definitively that anything did other than we still feel real 478 00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:23.319 positive about this player and we're ices to see him when he's getting a lot 479 00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:27.759 more snaps and work with the ones. Welcome back to it, Broncos Country 480 00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.960 Tonight, Benjamin Albrighten, Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here with you. That 481 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:37.079 was Sean Payton answering the questions I guess on Jared Stidham as far as that 482 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.000 goes. You know, BKA had some comments in the last segment about is 483 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:48.039 Sean Payton and Jared Nick? Did you did you agree with that or no? 484 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.799 I did not agree with those comments because they said that that was in 485 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.200 the details, and I know that when you look at Jared Stidham, is 486 00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:02.359 he a finished product? No, and ideas as though he should be close 487 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.680 to it because he's been in the league for a significant amount of time. 488 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:10.880 He spent the entire season behind Russell Wilson on his team and then coach Payden. 489 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.079 You know, look, he made him a priority signing for a particular 490 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:18.119 reason. There's certain things that he sees in Jared Stidham as being that particular 491 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:23.400 guy. Me, just like BK, I grew up in Miami, but 492 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:29.279 I have that show me Missouri type of mentality. So I got to see 493 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.519 it from Jared Stidham for me to somewhat buy into it. Well, yeah, 494 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.519 and I'm not sure that we saw that last year. The two starts 495 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:38.640 that we saw. I mean, I saw a guy who looks like he's 496 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:44.720 a capable spots starter and maybe maybe with more reps he's a starter. But 497 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:48.599 I didn't see it. Wasn't like when we were watching last game of the 498 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.240 season where Kansas City rolled out of homes for the first time. You watch 499 00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:52.839 it game, You're like, Yeah, this kid's got it. You know, 500 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:53.720 you know it. You could see it right then and there, right 501 00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.000 this This wasn't like that. I didn't really kind of see that with Dim. 502 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.240 I saw a player two where I liked his escapability at times. You 503 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:06.880 know, he's a better foot athlete, I think than than given credit for. 504 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.640 But I certainly didn't see wow throws. I saw wow play by little 505 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:14.519 Jordan Humphrey, but I don't remember seeing any wow throws off the top of 506 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:20.480 my head. And the idea, and this is me paraphrasing, I can't 507 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:25.799 say this in fairness to him and the process. Anything did other than what 508 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.240 we still believe he is as a player. And that's Sean Payton me paraphrasing 509 00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:37.799 Sean Payton's words about Jared Stidham. Look this whole thing about fairness. Look, 510 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:40.880 Jeff Stidham got a chance, as though he has in the past for 511 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.880 two other franchises, to start the last two games. So he received a 512 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.759 significant amount of reps during practice during the week. Did he receive all the 513 00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.759 starting reps when Russ was the guy? No, But you're around guys. 514 00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:59.640 You developed chemistry with a lot of those guys who ended up playing in the 515 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:04.200 game in those last two games with Stidham, can stead of developed develop into 516 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.519 a guy Ben? Possibly that that is the hope of everyone here in Broco's 517 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:13.119 country, and that is my hope as well. But also looking at what 518 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.279 Kyle was able to do with brock perty and saying, well, maybe Stidham 519 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:20.720 can be brock Purty. See here, here's where the lines, uh, 520 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.680 don't, don't don't mention you if you if you know Ghostbusters, you can't 521 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.960 cross the streams. Ben, you can't cross the streams and you can't do 522 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.599 that yere and saying okay, well, trying to say that Sean Peyton and 523 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:37.720 Kyle Shanahan are on the same wavelength. No, because I've worked and I've 524 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.359 been around Kyle. I've been around Mike McDaniel and that and that crew, 525 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.240 and I watched them work. Kyle Man, he's a mad scientist when it 526 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:51.319 comes to putting players in positions, scheming players open. That's what the game 527 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:55.079 is right now, because this is why the league wants to change how players 528 00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:00.839 that play defense tackles, because the scoring has been down and you have to 529 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.720 come up with creative ways to get guys in bah Barak. I always go 530 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.799 back to this. I look at what Sean McVay was able to do with 531 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.559 pooking the court, Like, how does pook in the court get those stats? 532 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.480 Ben? Yes, was he a decent wide receiver, Absolutely, But 533 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.800 Sean McVay, just like Cooper cut before him, moved him around. So 534 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.320 this whole idea of saying that they're equal, I don't know. Maybe in 535 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:27.679 certain circles, maybe with certain things, but once again, I need to 536 00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.519 see it. Broncos Country needs to see it in order for this fan base 537 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.480 to truly believe it. All right, I'm with you on that. Seeing 538 00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.039 his believing in this particular case, I see that we got to hit a 539 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:38.639 commercial break, but when we come back we'll get a chance to dive into 540 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:42.159 this a little bit further. You listen to Broncos Country to Night, Can't Wait